veteran-class

[plain osprey]

Instructions unclear. Started playing ogryn instead

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[gilded wraith]

Is bleed considered melee or ranged since we're on the topic?

[turbid ibex]

neither

[gilded wraith]

...

[turbid ibex]

burn isnt considered ranged either

its just that the talent isnt actually ranged damage

[gilded wraith]

Ahh

[turbid ibex]

its just only active when you have your ranged weapon out

[gilded wraith]

That's why we need generic damage buffs for DoTs?

[turbid ibex]

yes

[boreal zenith]

hello veterans

is the revolver hte best gun?

its my favorite

[silver patrol]

no

[boreal zenith]

whats better?

[silver patrol]

Helbore, plasma, maybe vigilant autoguns

[quiet lark]

revolver is certainly not the best gun but also if you like it there's no reason not to use it

you should have fun playing the game 🙂‍↕️

[solar valve]

revolver was much better before havoc came out

[hollow ibex]

revolver's great outside of havoc

[tame lodge]

It's like

[solar valve]

it stops hitting breakpoints in higher havoc

[tame lodge]

Top 1 Auric wise

[solar valve]

which is why its very good in aurics

but not havoc

[boreal zenith]

even with the skill?

[boreal zenith]

whats good in havoc

[distant plaza]

how much do you want to sweat?

[solar valve]

Breakpoints arent skill dependent

Bolt pistol/rifle are good

Helbore las is good

Some of the vigilant autoguns can do alright

[boreal zenith]

i meant executioners stance. im asking if revolver headshots still dont hit the breakpoint with exec stance on

[solar valve]

Combat shotty is good

I mean for specials sure

Its not good for reapers and gunners

[boreal zenith]

i thought revolver does more damage than bolt pistol, and also has more armor pen

[solar valve]

Bistol has good stagger

[sonic kayak]

It's more ammo than anything

You get less pickups and less ammo per pickup in Havoc

[boreal zenith]

oh ok

what do you recommend?

[sonic kayak]

Well if you're not doing Havoc, stick with the revolver

Nothing wrong with it

[boreal zenith]

well id like to do havoc

its my first day however so not atm

[sonic kayak]

Oh well you'll have a ways to go

[dry cloak]

you still have much to learn

for now

play teh game until you character is lvl 30

[sonic kayak]

You're using a weapon that you enjoy and it's doing what you want it to do, no need to rush it

[dry cloak]

you have time to try and test all weapons

and dont let meta chasers pull you down

have open mind

and open mids of heretics

with your guns

good luck and have fun young one

[sonic kayak]

May the Force be with you

[boreal zenith]

id rather if someone just tells me whats meta

besides plasma, thats lame

[dry cloak]

playing meta at your point will only teach you bad habits

trust me

meta in this game is a noob trap

at least in my opinion

[distant plaza]

don't be a meta slave
be free
but not heavy sword free

[tame lodge]

In no order
Plasma, Helbore, Recons, infantry autogun, boltergun, bolt Pistol (grenadier)

Melee wise it's just power sword 24/7

With the second option being Rashad Combat Axe

[boreal zenith]

the horizontal power sword?

or the diagonal

[hollow ibex]

mk6

[boreal zenith]

can you tell me what makes bolt pistol viable but not revolver? from what ive seen revolver does more damage

it pens carapace better and has more weak point multiplier

[quiet lark]

blessing increases explosion size, in hard content thats the main reason u take it along with shredder frags

[boreal zenith]

so single target isnt really viable at that difficult i take it?

[quiet lark]

i wouldn't rlly say so

[hollow ibex]

it is if you invest fully in it lol

whether that's worth it? prob not

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1437197478964367480/78E2901.MP4?ex=69bfbb34&is=69be69b4&hm=4cc08a4f3b7a696b8789de1692c4641d1c069c463c16cd38c5527c002da0f4ac&

mostly just funny

[quiet lark]

honestly tho i think u should just use whatever for now, experiment with new weapons given ure brand new to the game

[hollow pier]

Bolt pistol is better for swarms and it stuns real good. It doesn't do the most damage but it does as much as it needs to

[boreal zenith]

when you say swarms

on havoc are those swarms of specials?

[hollow ibex]

hes talking about explodey bistol for horde clear

which is a valid strat on hive scum

but not really on vet

[boreal zenith]

horde clear = nonspecials right?

[hollow ibex]

yeah it's basically bruisers

and below

so not elites, specials or monsters

or captains

[boreal zenith]

i see

[tame lodge]

While bolt Pistol is one of the worst breakpoints weapon in the game
A single blessing makes it relevant for grenadier build

[boreal zenith]

ok so bistol is for grenades not for shooting

[tame lodge]

It's just that in High havocs Zarona revolver loses breakpoints and the ammo is overall reduced

So going from 1 shot to 2 shots with a 60 ammo pool is pretty bad

[boreal zenith]

ok thanks for the inf

[tall torrent]

it doesn't

it has the best breakpoints of any gun basically

[hybrid plover]

It used to be like that

[tall torrent]

and unlike helbore IV it doesn't take time to charge

[hybrid plover]

Rework sauced it enough to hit breakpoints again

Ammo still kinda sucks though

But its workable

[tall torrent]

if u play infil u can afford the extra ammo

but ya

it's just ammo constraint

[tame lodge]

Imagine being ammo constrained

statement sponsored by Helbore

[hollow ibex]

why infil specifically?

[tall torrent]

needs 0 subnodes

unlike stance/VoC

[hollow ibex]

oh i like the toughness subnode 🙁

[tame lodge]

Bweheh no subnodes for ya

[brave acorn]

I think he’s talking about the ability modifiers

[tall torrent]

it's ok but not needed

[boreal zenith]

yea i hate the helbore

charging = ew

[tame lodge]

Understandable

It is an acquired taste after all

[restive mountain]

Word is this where you hang out

[young nacelle]

Revolver is clutch

It pulls out quick

U can combo with melee and then swap to revolver and unload, swap back

Prob one of the strongest combos

Takes some getting used to

[sick anvil]

It is very good if you have more than one heavy gun person(like arbit/ogryn/vet/vet or smth), generally the faster firing one does more damage ngl.

Also with the new changes I haven't been having issues with amo,,, but haven't run a havoc 30 yet sooo

[quiet lark]

they didn't change ammo with the helbore no? only the inf

[twin sapphire]

i hate the ironsight on it

[tall torrent]

maybe

[boreal zenith]

so just to be clear

if i find a level 350 sword in the shop, with the correct maximum distribution that i want, 80/60 etc

and i level it to 500

those stats will be filled out fully?

[sonic kayak]

Correct

[boreal zenith]

even if the mobility stat is 26/60 at level 350?

it will get to 60/60?

[sonic kayak]

Yes

[boreal zenith]

ok thanks

[sonic kayak]

Although the PSword's dump stat would be Cleave Targets

Mobility is fine too

[boreal zenith]

o rly

[sonic kayak]

Why Cleave Targets? Because the difference between 60 and 80 does nothing for the weapon, literally

Doesn't change the amount of enemies you can cleave

[boreal zenith]

ah ok

[quiet lark]

pinned guide has tons of weapon and build info, very helpful

including ideal stat distributions, perks, blessings, etc

[boreal zenith]

does the pin say the revolver is the best

[void dragon]

for zealot is there a favourite to use between the autoguns and the lasguns that are not revolver and laspistol?

[sonic kayak]

The only thing that can tell you what is best..

Is your heart.

[quiet lark]

u could probably use the inf las

[boreal zenith]

i love how pve game players always hide the meta stuff with this kind of talk, its very endearing

[sonic kayak]

Did you not ask earlier about this and Higui responded to you with the top picks for Vet weapons like immediately?

[quiet lark]

i dont think it's really hiding the meta, it's like u can really use anything, especially if ure good enough and have a team that enable u

[tame lodge]

I also said that

Auric wise

[boreal zenith]

yes 1 response out of like 5 people

[tame lodge]

Zarona revolver is top 1

[boreal zenith]

furthermore there was some contradiction with the responses

[quiet lark]

i find the meta options on vet and psyker rlly boring so i don't use them at all, even in havoc

[boreal zenith]

ok good, finally someone speaking fax

[tame lodge]

I already said that though

Which is why I'm confused

[quiet lark]

i also immediately said if u like the revolver u should use it 😭

[sonic kayak]

Hell I'm even gonna say most of the frequent visitors here who have thousands of hours don't even use the meta at this point

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/off-the-air-for-some-time-now-that's-why-i'm-confused-ed-edd-n-eddy-gif-14530463061911690734

[sonic kayak]

let alone on Vet

It's just boring

[boreal zenith]

i just picked vet cuz im pretty good at fps games

[sonic kayak]

Nothing wrong with that

[tidal fox]

the skills are minimally transferable, aiming isn't that difficult

[quiet lark]

i mean skills aside i think it makes sense cos it is the class that probably plays closest to ur avg fps game

so comfort if nothing else

[boreal zenith]

now im sad

[tame lodge]

💀

[tidal fox]

what is aiming difficult in a pve game bro

why am I getting a skull

[sonic kayak]

You're bad to the bone

[tidal fox]

??

[void dragon]

was looking for a good gun to use in expeditions, since a lot of long distance skirmished happen i wanted something more reliable to shoot the tox bombers no one else shoot

[quiet lark]

i would personally take the laspistol, + u can run around quickly with it

[rustic kite]

The only mob I seriously have trouble with is Crushers but that's because sometimes I dont bring kraks

[hollow ibex]

you bring a well-rounded loadout capable of dealing with any threat

right?

[slow sky]

It's because the meta stuff in this game is boring snoozefest

Stinky, even

[boreal zenith]

what do u use to keeep it exciting

[pseudo fiber]

Cole uses fatmangus

[slow sky]

Healthtank stealth zealot (fatmangus)
Shovel db vet, exe stance dclaw helbore/inf lasgun vet
Brain burst scriers psyker with shredder autopistol and dclaw
Last couple builds ive run in havoc 40, but fatmangus is my goat

[boreal zenith]

stealth is exciting? thats lame

[atomic void]

stealth makes for funny boss 1 shots

[slow sky]

When youre using it relic blade with the sprint stab tech it is

[atomic void]

so its fun

[hybrid plover]

Captain skip funny

[slow sky]

Plus the build involves every possible hp damage resist, which stealth is the only ability that has that

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1484989324490571806/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2026-03-19_8-48-15_PM.mp4?ex=69c03b94&is=69beea14&hm=6d76869076950d3e99c8822e8cac3494b166731fe0148cc2e96ba75f0a209f76&

[pseudo fiber]

scuse me

[tall torrent]

did ur eyes recover btw

[slow sky]

Yes

[tall torrent]

nice

[narrow frost]

btw

you cant parry with bolt pistol

[tall torrent]

what parry

[narrow frost]

exactly

I fat fingered my ranged weapon

and tried to parry mauler with bolt pistol

Dclaw H40 solo is rough

but its funny

Purge BoN from the game

I cant parry it

[pseudo fiber]

fs please buff bp parry

[narrow frost]

that mustive been like 2 frames

that I pulled it oput

[quiet lark]

could u share the psyker build? sounds fun :0

[slow sky]

https://youtu.be/sLxdW-DJjEA

[quiet lark]

ooo another a.a build

thanks!

[tame lodge]

Bloodborne

Kek

[slow sky]

I have a recorded run using it so you know im not just shilling a build without trying it myself

https://youtu.be/QcljYqL-kSE

[quiet lark]

wouldn't think u were but i'll def give it a watch o7

[slow sky]

I need to give the ogryn shovel one a shot but that means id have to play ogryn and I haven't worked up the self hatred to do that yet

[quiet lark]

also mobility or collat dump for shredder?

[tame lodge]

Build enough to run kickback/rumbler bash only

[slow sky]

Mobility

[slow sky]

I was molesting some h40s earlier this week with gunlugger

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1484417211815825559/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2026-03-19_11-54-56_PM.mp4?ex=69c02102&is=69becf82&hm=9a4036710f3059ec9b5cfb7163da25dea24ff960fb1c6fe8d0e19a21d8e7aeb7&

[limpid hatch]

What are the best weapons to use for vet?

[tame lodge]

So I assume you are aware that Pierce blessing also has the cleave through carapace+ reduced mass trait

[slow sky]

Yea

[tame lodge]

Yup

Bash only

Go for it

[slow sky]

Nuh

[tame lodge]

Plasma Helbore Recons Infantry Autogun Shotgun BigBolter

Vigilants

Zarona revolver

Agripina revolver (boss hunting build)

Bolt Pistol (grenadier build)

[slow sky]

Duelling sword power sword heavy sword tac axe combat axe sapper shovel combat blade

You have plenty of options

Even the ones we've not mentioned are pretty good

[tame lodge]

Yeah like Shock Maul

Just bring something for monstrosities

[narrow frost]

depends on what you are going for, there are alot of variables you have to consider, skill level/difficulty/enenmy type/playstyle

[atomic void]

u must play birmingham shanker

be a MAN

[slow sky]

Which is why there are so many things we listed

[limpid hatch]

If ima be honest
Something that doesn’t give me carpal tunnel

[slow sky]

No

[narrow frost]

try out the flip shovels

or the power sword

they are hard hitting slower weapons

[limpid hatch]

I mean ranged weapons

[narrow frost]

bolter

[slow sky]

So any fast semi auto gun is off the table

[narrow frost]

helbor

vigilent auto guns

[hybrid plover]

Idk, the amount of push attacks you do with power sword

[tame lodge]

Recon

[hybrid plover]

Can get a little grating on the wrist

[tame lodge]

Infantry Autogun

[limpid hatch]

Recon seems pretty cool

Ima give that a try

[atomic void]

human classes child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. human clases cartoon world with rainbow unlike ogryn with dark corridorr and big gun.. humans like playhouse. human playor run from ogryn fear of dark world and realism...

[slow sky]

You do more with tac axe and people say that working pas into the combos removes the carpet tunnel issue they find with it

[somber axle]

Helbore, Recon, Infantry Autogun are all solid weapons that don't require you to click a ton

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/simple-shrimple-shrimple-gif-its-really-that-shrimple-not-so-shrimple-now-gif-26259869

[hybrid plover]

The one thing I'll say is that laspistol is probably out of the question lol

[atomic void]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-fanta-orange-orange-venom-marvel-rivals-gif-14254808145322227813

[turbid ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-gif-7099278856497118059

[hybrid plover]

Probably because you hold for the heavy so it's not as much clicking as it seems to be completely honest

Cuz I do notice that

But constantly needing to push light light light with power sword for single target

Surprisingly gets to me

[atomic void]

i love the og coypasta so much

[turbid ibex]

what copypasta

[atomic void]

valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism

[somber axle]

What's the fastest shooting weapon for the most clicks

Is it Laspistol or Infantry Lasgun Mk IIb

[hybrid plover]

I think they're pretty even honestly

[turbid ibex]

i think lasgun is 5 rps

iirc

idk about laspistol tho

[vale sparrow]

ideal magnacore stat spread?

[hollow ibex]

@tired egret

[turbid ibex]

69% thermal 71% charge

[somber axle]

Is someone going to ping the guy with the name for the Plasma stats

There they are LMFAO

[turbid ibex]

fuck i forgot the "Optml Plasma" before the stat number

[vale sparrow]

lmao

[limpid hatch]

Oh wait I just realized

[tame lodge]

The realizer

[limpid hatch]

I could just use a macro

That way no more carpal tunnel

[ionic trail]

anyone here know how effective Withering Fire is on the Zarona Combat Shotgun if you're a weapon spec vet using Man-Stopper for horde cleaving?

still trying to find info on this via the search function, not finding enough info yet to make a judgement

[vale sparrow]

are they exact breakpoints or would 71 therm 69 charge work

[tame lodge]

70.something charge
68.something thermal

[vale sparrow]

word

my top contenders after dropping a mil are 74 charge 78 stop 68 therm, 69 charge 71 ammo, and 69 charge 71 therm

rolling that specific is expensive lmao

thoughts?

[tame lodge]

Could try the ammo one for now

[hollow ibex]

it'll give you 1.5 x infinite cleave cleave

will let you judge how useful that is

[tame lodge]

Waste

[vale sparrow]

is it still rising heat/get hot?

[tame lodge]

Yup

[vale sparrow]

substats?

uny/flak?

[ionic trail]

i see the problem

[tame lodge]

Unarmored Flak iirc

[somber axle]

There's also the guide in pins if you want to double check anything on your Plasma later

[tame lodge]

Unarmored is usually for the bomber bullshit

[gilded pike]

how's infantry lasgun these day

[slow sky]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-and-josh-green-epic-door-funny-gif-12204655

[tame lodge]

Could be better
Slightly better than before though

[slow sky]

The accuracy, stamina, and unyielding buff honestly did a lot for it

An exe mmf vet can get some pretty good value outta it

I love 2 shotting bulwarks

[somber axle]

It's very fun in Expeditions where the reverse damage falloff doesn't come into play nearly as often as regular maps

[slow sky]

Exactly

[tall torrent]

I think it still needs more

[somber axle]

The IX with a little rending feels good

The IIb getting the recoil buff also made it feel so much better for spamming

[tall torrent]

vet bottom left, inf las flak ADM
both need help still

[slow sky]

I think its damage is fine, handling tho is another thing entirely, Its better than before but thats where its still the most wonky

[tall torrent]

I think inf las flak ADM can use a small bump from 48.96~60.12% to 60.12~72.77%

and vet bottom left needs 1~2 talent points freed up

[boreal zenith]

whats the best 60% for combat blade?

[tame lodge]

Mobility

[tall torrent]

mobility

[tame lodge]

But here's a secret

And if someone asks you didn't hear it from me

And don't tell anyone

If you run Uncanny Strike blessing, you can have penetration at 60%

Oh but you don't want that

No no no no no no no

[boreal zenith]

interesting. i thought people only picked that weapon because of the mobility

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/never-here-gif-24406585

[tame lodge]

• top tier single target damage

Just hit heads

• uncanny Strike

Also charging heavies give you 30% extra speed

Or was it 20%

[boreal zenith]

do u know of a good video that teaches the move tech? i think i saw someone doing heavy sprint slide spamming or something

[tall torrent]

0.8 vs 0.89 sprint bonus

it's not that big of a difference

[tame lodge]

Sorry don't know

I don't watch DT videos

[boreal zenith]

so its like fps, but with a dagger

i could get down with that

[hollow ibex]

sprint, slide, and heavy attack as you're rising

[gilded wraith]

Anyone have a good expedition build using taxe and plasma?

[slow spade]

average randoms

can't even handle poxwalkers

[void dragon]

how difficult for people is slide near pox burster, push twice, dodge slide backwards can be?

[slow spade]

na they died to normal poxwalkers

they left before the first poxburster

[quiet lark]

dont u love randoms

[elfin barn]

which keystone do i go for using the charge lasgun?

[hollow ibex]

mmf or ft

[elfin barn]

ty

[deep bone]

I’m enjoying Veteran stealth ability after the rework

Pretty good

[empty lily]

born leader is a really good node

[void dragon]

im kinda surprised that 5 less seconds and more duration on the damage has made the skill quite accepted among the folks

doesnt strike me as THAT crazy but a good buff

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-avengers-finally-someone-who-speaks-english-captain-america-tony-stark-gif-17147260

[somber axle]

It's a good buff to the ability uptime

Plus the damage buff has a duration long enough for you to make meaningful plays with it now

[tall torrent]

it's only worth for not caring about subnodes

which is basically its only upside

[void dragon]

the subnodes do feel quite Effy, but stealth for Vet is a odd thing to give perks for an engaging build

[somber axle]

It helps that Expeditions are basically all objectives and Infiltrate is the free objective ability

[modern abyss]

I just want my damn hellgun

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/youll-get-your-rent-when-you-fix-this-damn-door-rent-fix-tobey-maguire-gif-15185504

[modern abyss]

I'll fix the Girthy Carcharadons doors if it means I can get some 30mg nicotine pouches, and a hellgun

[final abyss]

hello im quite new to darktide

i rlly like using the bolt pistol can you guys give tips on what good primary to partner with it ?

im using the grenadier build

[toxic reef]

is it looking something like this?

[unreal nova]

Lethal prox and puncture?

[final abyss]

yes

[final abyss]

yes

for now im using the p sword

[toxic reef]

I personally run power sword, you can run knife or something with uncanny strike to make your bleed stacks hit harder

[final abyss]

oooh okay

ill stick with the sword

[toxic reef]

yeah it works perfectly well

[unreal nova]

Then usually a good ST weapon would just be fine. Rest is just working on your own skill.

[calm skiff]

is anyone running only in death now its been buffed?

[unreal nova]

I saw someone using it to lazy pick up bots.

[calm skiff]

considering dropping either MF 15 stacks or a nade buff node

[unreal nova]

MF 15 probs, depends on what 'nade.

[calm skiff]

krak

[unreal nova]

Then tinkerer is optional unless havoc.

Twinned as well technically.

You can drop either or both. Twinned first, then tinkerer.

[calm skiff]

ty

[distant mural]

Does the spearhead benefit from ranged finesse from mmf?

[boreal zenith]

what 60 do i want on a bolter? mobility?

[distant mural]

Yes

[steep flower]

Reverse girl; first tinkerer then twinned

Cause you always drop 2 shredders in a horde situation to clear it

Abd you have 4

[unreal nova]

Doesn't it not one shot with kraks?

Guy has kraks.

Not frags.

[steep flower]

Oh we talk about kraks; for kraks yes

[unreal nova]

Kraks need tinkerer to one shot in higher havocs.

Why I mentioned the caveat.

But on lower diffs, can drop both and still work.

You always want 'nade regen anyway.

[turbid ibex]

Or collateral

[unreal nova]

Basically a, do you plan on using pinning fire or no.

[boreal zenith]

do you enjoy havoc 40?

[pseudo fiber]

Moshi mosh

[distant mural]

No

Sry not really anymore

It can be a bit restrictive build wise if you are not an absolute god at the game

[boreal zenith]

i see i see

[distant mural]

For example with pox hardened skin bolter will really fall off in havoc

[upper geode]

Is dueling sword parry skill OP?

Only thing I can't parry is crasher. But bosses and even 20 armored ragers at ones? easy

[distant mural]

I think you can also parry crushers

Atleast with dclaw u can

[somber axle]

what do they mean we get power swords and helbores

I had to look it up but like shovels, power falchions, power swords, plasma and helbores are all Veteran specific weapons

[formal ice]

I think this guy got the basic complains about veteran half right

Though he didn't noticed the amount of uniques veteran have

[pseudo fiber]

They then complained about power cycler being nerfed

Which was... 3... years ago

[unreal nova]

You can, but it has to be a perfect parry from memory.

Because it's the only thing that will explain not going down from a boss overhead since I panic parry due to running out of dodges.

[somber axle]

decided to go counting unique weapons for all the classes

Vet has 5 (Shovel, Helbore, Plasma, Falchion, Power Sword)
Zealot has 4 (Flamer, Thammer, Relic Blade, Heavy Evis)
Psyker has 6 (Blaze Force Sword/Greatsword, 4 Staves - Inferno, Electro, Voidstrike, Voidblast)
Arbites has 4 (ASM, SM+Sh, Shistol, Exe Shotgun)
Scum has 6 (Stub Pistols, Autopistols, Needle Pistol, Crowbar, Shivs, Bone Saw)
Ogryn has 12 weapons that are all unique but they're way behind total weapons
As an example Zealot has only 4 uniques but another 22 weapons they share with other classes so like

tbh Zealot and Ogryn could stand to get new toys most I think but I still agree on wanting a hellgun for Vet

[distant mural]

Dont u slander my boi

Ogryn is peak

[somber axle]

I agree and I think they deserve more

Give them the power fist

just a car battery rigged to some big brass knuckles

[formal ice]

I vote for ogryn to get all the weapons next update

[distant mural]

Imagine

Fatfish would never

[somber axle]

Kinda hoping next time they go with new class weapons they toss both Ogryn and Zealot a bone alongside whatever new class they try to sell

[distant mural]

They could give him a piece of rebar and i would be happy

[somber axle]

let him steal the piece of rebar from the Crusher

the Crusher won't need it after the Ogryn is done with him anyway

[distant mural]

Fr

[somber axle]

on the bright side at least the new Ogryn store cosmetic is amazing

[distant mural]

This an two handet chainaxe from mauler for zealot

[somber axle]

beat people to death with a giant Inquisition letter i

LOL

[distant mural]

Ngl i got that IMMEDIATLY

[somber axle]

are ogryns allowed to use power weapons

Ogryn power axe?

[distant mural]

No clue

I guess if they are smart enough

[formal ice]

I wouldn't see why ogryns can't use Space Marine equipment suited for them

[distant mural]

And the dt ogryns are REALLY smart

For ogryns

[formal ice]

Ogryns are basically Space Marines but sightly nerfed

[unreal nova]

Generally no, they'll just break relics.

Maybe if made specifically for them.

[distant mural]

An ogryn would beat a space marine every time without armor

[somber axle]

awww

[distant mural]

And weapons

[formal ice]

But what about one with a chip on his brain to make him smarter

That's a thing

[somber axle]

maybe Zealot can get the power axe

they also need some weapon love to catch up

[unreal nova]

That's like going from kindergartener to primary schooler.

[formal ice]

Still

The ogryn would understand how to not break their guns

[distant mural]

Even with the chip

Like dt ogryns are way too smart tbh

[formal ice]

Exactly

[unreal nova]

They will smack enemies with their guns like clubs.

That can damage relics.

[formal ice]

Theres one who got their chip fried but is still somewhat smart

[distant mural]

No

[somber axle]

I thought a lot of the ogryn guns were designed with the idea that ogryns were going to use them to beat things to death so you needed something sturdy and durable because instead of reloading they're probably just going to wield it like a club a lot of the time

they will eventually reload

they're still going to hit things with whatever you hand them

[unreal nova]

So maybe if it was made for them, but general power weapons, no.

[pseudo fiber]

They also have built in limiters to prevent them from shooting all their ammo

[somber axle]

that's extra funny LOL

[distant mural]

Normally ogryns can just follow very badic orders

[somber axle]

I didn't know about that part

[unreal nova]

Unless you want a galaxy s7 situation of battery go BOOM.

[distant mural]

They barely understand whats going on around them

[somber axle]

I know the sad lore that a lot of the time "traitor" Ogryns don't actually know they're traitors. They follow their officers and when an officer defects to chaos they just follow along thinking that they're still serving the Emperor because they don't know any better

[distant mural]

Ye

[somber axle]

poor dude

[distant mural]

Good soldiers follow orders sah

[formal ice]

Just found this badass ogryn

Also yeah they can use power weapons

[somber axle]

OGRYN HALBERDS??

[pseudo fiber]

moonda

[somber axle]

give them the halberds

[formal ice]

They also have a roped hook on his right hand

[somber axle]

I'm curious how ogryns would use a hook weapon

but it'd be funny to imagine them having a weapon that could yank enemies over

[formal ice]

Just use it like a whip

The special is just them pulling the enemy

[somber axle]

throw a hook across the map and yoink a sniper from behind cover to beat him to death without having to run over

[upper geode]

like special pickaxe attack?

[somber axle]

yeah but longer

[formal ice]

It could pull multiple enemies

[upper geode]

hook from Dota 2

[turbid ibex]

hook from dead by daylight

[midnight totem]

Ogryn with a hook on a chain, wrapped around his fists

[turbid ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-7938150689684025197

[upper geode]

I belive it can actually work for ogryn with hook and cleaver like it works for Pudge from Dota 2

[somber axle]

that'd be pretty fun

I kinda wonder what the ogryn players want though

it's still fun to speculate but like I'm a Vet so even if ogryns get power fist I'm still going to sit with my helbore

[pseudo fiber]

you shouldn't ask for that they always go for disabler immunity

[turbid ibex]

big hammer

[somber axle]

didn't they get something that lets them have a get out of jail free card against dogs

[turbid ibex]

no lol

[somber axle]

I know scum got something like that in their talent tree too

[turbid ibex]

that was scum

[pseudo fiber]

yeah they do it's fnp

[turbid ibex]

ogryn doesnt get shit

[pseudo fiber]

the fnp fart

[turbid ibex]

there are people who use it

damn

[sly orchid]

more a billhook

[turbid ibex]

still what i want for ogryn is another tree rework and more weapons

big hammer 🤤

[somber axle]

that's still a really cool weapon

[dry cloak]

tree rework? what for

theres literally no need for that

[turbid ibex]

more horizontal lines connecting nodes

[dry cloak]

those can be just added

[turbid ibex]

instead of purely diagonal

[boreal zenith]

what about stability on the bolter

is 80 stability important for damage

[worn sapphire]

You should try to dumping collateral of mobility on bolters

[unreal nova]

The kick will be worse if you dump that.

Meaning trying to hipfire will be alot harder to control.

[barren current]

hi

[hollow ibex]

got the darktide soundtrack

why is the uncompressed version in wav format

bruh

[tough nova]

Lossless or miss me

[hollow ibex]

i guess wav is lossless, i just thought they'd be using flac like everybody else in the world...

[orchid hemlock]

Hello

[barren current]

hi

[tough nova]

Is it really? I thought it was only FLAC

[hollow ibex]

yeah just a quick search online tho

not sure what differences there are

[tough nova]

You can stream it in lossless on spotify

[hollow ibex]

i prefer... ownership

[distant mural]

Yeah i wouldnt dump stability depending on the mark you could dump colatteral instead

Even with exec stance on the bolter kicks very much

[dry cloak]

agrip iag with exe stence is nice

[distant mural]

Btw i asked earlyer does the bolter benefit from mmf?

Or only foccus target

[dry cloak]

it does

benefit

[turbid ibex]

It does benefit

But not enough to be worth the pathing

[distant mural]

Hm

Ok

If i have focus target i allways forget to use it anyway

[dry cloak]

i just take bolter on my vigi build and it works very well

focus target is better on the account of being flat buff

[distant mural]

I do take a lot of left side so it wouldnt hinder my build too much

I allways want the 2 reload buffs on bolter wich is kinda taxing

1 just never feels enough

Anyway thx for info

Also field improv fckn goated on expeditions

Ill kiss ur feet if u have it

[hollow ibex]

i was taking it but now i'm going to drop it

[distant mural]

Fr tho nade costs 50 and with field improv everyone gets nades ontop of the ammo that only costs 10.

[barren current]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-gif-17556910517109081583

[distant mural]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[hollow ibex]

you'll need to talk a bit more to get embed privs

[mystic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-gif-17556910517109081583

@barren currentposted for ya

[willow prairie]

@hollow ibex why no respite over fullbore on your mmf shotgun build

[hollow ibex]

don't really need no respite if you're already 2-3 shotting the heaviest enemies (crushers) it can proc on anyway imo

[barren current]

thanks

[gilded wraith]

I hope that stays as a feature for having a vet on the team. Wonder if lethal proximity would buff it?

[barren current]

https://tenor.com/view/mustafa-necohaus-kitty-cat-warhammer-40k-gif-11500918880958315641

[distant mural]

I hope so too cause theres only ammo crate if you buy it

And i honestly wouldnt run it just for that because my grenades regen anyway

[turbid ibex]

i kinda wish field improv was a built in passive instead of a talent

[dry cloak]

Then it would need to be coded to for veteran alone

Now

As long as veteran is alive

Any and all placed medkits and ammo crates benefit from field improv

Be it placed by zealot ogryn or hive scum

[willow prairie]

I think that too much

imo

but yeah field improv should be base

[turbid ibex]

no?

just make it work exactly as is rn

but you dont have to spend a talent to get it

plus the other players dont have to wonder whether or not the vet has the talent

[sharp epoch]

mfw they make it an aura

[shut olive]

pals which shovel and how to use for h40

[limpid hatch]

What stat should I dump on recon lasgun?

Cause I found one that dumps mobility

[hybrid plover]

Mk1

[turbid ibex]

collat

[limpid hatch]

Oh dang

[limpid hatch]

Also are these stats rng based or do I have a way to choose

[turbid ibex]

complete rng

[olive halo]

YOOO ANOTHER TINY DALLAS

[limpid hatch]

YOOOOOOOO

[sudden glen]

I remember someone once described the Infantry Lasgun as a piece of shit you learned to love, and yeah, after the recent buffs you can pry this thing from my cold dead hands. I’d liked it before, but it’s my baby now.

I love how weird and kinda poorly-made it sounds—the shot isn’t a satisfying crack! or zap!, it’s more like a weird chownsh!, and the reload sounds dull and plasticky—and I love that the sights are slightly off.

Shooting people in the hair instead of the face is nuts.

[proud bluff]

Vet doesn’t really need a buff like that

A way to better notify you have it would be nice

But i think talents like that existing in the skill tree is a good thing

[hollow ibex]

i just want vet to have a slightly shorter skill tree

[round wasp]

best power falchion?

[narrow frost]

I saw a las gun once

[tall torrent]

neither is particularly good

[round wasp]

yeah just saw the heavy animation and realised its bad...

[hollow ibex]

mk1

[round wasp]

thanks for a real answer

[hollow ibex]

because you don't need heavies at all

path's right that neither is particularly good tho

[golden bluff]

is catachan sword still certified dooky?

[hollow ibex]

it can be ok

very build-dependant

better on hive scum

[void dragon]

build dependant is on any crit focused build, right? but does it has another needs asides from that?

[quiet lark]

hi all! what kind of build do you run with agri revolver? mmf?

[hollow ibex]

could try something super memey like voc + ws + dclaw with hammerblow/skullcrusher

might actually work ok

though unfortunate that voc cd has been nerfed quite a bit

[tame lodge]

Yes it is

Parryslop

They killed dclaw for this btw

Hmmm no this imply dclaw was even alive to begin with

[shrewd crystal]

dropping this here in case it wasnt known: the "modified grenade" from the expeditions mode u can buy at sanctuaries counts as a frag/shredeer nade for penances

it detonates on impact

make sure it hits an enemy directly in a group instead of geometry, there u go, penance for long shot without bounce is done

[shell leaf]

for the veteran's special ability, is there a way to reload the secondary weapon when casting the skill?

[slow spade]

nope

sadly that's a very old feature it used to have

[shell leaf]

gotcha thank u! i do remember it when i first played.. i just got the game again and was looking around for it

[slow spade]

indeed it was removed around 2? or so years ago when exec stance was giga-nerfed for like no reason

[gilded wraith]

Something similar was added to Arbites if you're not set on Veteran.

[shell leaf]

ohh gotcha i need to check for that.. the reload thingy 2 years ago was so good for the Plasma Rifle build i had

[river inlet]

wahts the best perks and blessings for power sword?

[slow spade]

Power Cycler then Brutal Momentum or Sunder

Perks are bit more specific to each player but you can't go wrong with Carapace + Maniac

fuck crushers

[void dragon]

do people dont do that penance by making a long toss of a frag so it explodes in the enemy face? is that actually hard?!

[slow spade]

it's more that it's easy to forget to do it

"oh right I need to do that lmao"

[shrewd crystal]

can be annoying, also yeah easy to forget its even a thing

i got it by accident with the expeditions nade

[turbid ibex]

or carapace and unyielding

better counter against all ogryn types+bosses

[tall torrent]

unyielding/flak
carapace
power cycler
brutal momentum/sunder

check pinned guide

[void dragon]

@tall torrent wanted to ask if the perks blessings you suggested me for the Oggy heavy stubbers apply for the krourk stubber or it has a specific set for it (if you have look into that specific mk)

[tall torrent]

I wouldn't bother with that variant tbh

just too inaccurate

[turbid ibex]

I just use GG for sidearm on ogryn

The heavy stubbers just dont feel good to use

[void dragon]

the hip fire is quite unstable, it feels only good braced to shoot but i want me riflegryn

[void dragon]

feel only the achlys is kinda-ish, which is annyonig because all used to be quite nice

[tall torrent]

I honestly don't think heavy stubbers (including achlys) are even at the level of the buffed inf las

and the buffed inf las are at B tier at best lol

[void dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/pissbreakfast-gif-3484611286363473525

[tall torrent]

I do hav a build for inf las now

but

it doesn't feel good to build around

vet bottom left still is abysmal dogshit

and inf las flak ADM needs help

[turbid ibex]

What is the build

[void dragon]

i still use my mk5 helbore instead, feels more effective

[tall torrent]

infantry lasgun VII (maniac, flak, headhunter, ghost)
tactical axe VII (unarmoured, carapace, brutal momentum, headtaker)

[turbid ibex]

I see

[tall torrent]

with +25% rending it actually does non-dogshit flak dmg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396860171541807105/1232138126441582642/mfw_deadass.gif

[void dragon]

it brings me depression but thanks for the answer mate

[tall torrent]

gorgonum and achlys are ok

but they just don't feel that good

best feeling one is gorgonum

because it actually has a semblance of accuracy in continuous fire

[tame lodge]

Either ammo or damage
Pick your poison

[tall torrent]

but ur basically doing inf las VII tier dmg, but with way less ammo, slower draw, slower reload

and worse accuracy

[void dragon]

that just sounds like Ogryn life

how is it build? unarmored-maniac/flak; surgilcal/salvo?

[tall torrent]

and worse spread (inf las VII has none)

[tall torrent]

opening salvo is bait on pretty much every gun

because most guns with that blessing have horrible salvo reset time

and opening salvo doesn't come back till salvo resets

[void dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

[tall torrent]

idk who came up with the idea of opening salvo on achlys heavy stubber but he needs to be studied

[void dragon]

dissected

[tall torrent]

u can put it on ur gun rn and see how long it takes to reset

[boreal zenith]

for the plasma gun do i want 60% charge rate?

or thermal?

[narrow frost]

71% charge 69% thermal

[boreal zenith]

nice

[limpid hatch]

Can someone help me with completing the make every shot count penance

[tall torrent]

use a double barrel shotgun and hit ur shots

[limpid hatch]

Every time I get into a match someone keeps using specialist

And it’s getting annoying

With my ammo constantly being refiled

[tall torrent]

if u use all ur ammo and don't swap to gun again, it's fine

[limpid hatch]

Well ok

[limpid hatch]

What are some good missions for this btw

[tall torrent]

short ones, prob

[limpid hatch]

Which ones are short 🤣

[slow spade]

Rolling Steel is the shortest

you quite literally cannot take more than 11 minutes on that one

[limpid hatch]

Ok thanks

[boreal zenith]

how do i into the firing range

[tall torrent]

Go to psykhanium

Select meat grinder

[boreal zenith]

ok thanks

[tall torrent]

Start grinding ur meat

[tame lodge]

Talk to Seffy

[tall torrent]

(Optional)

[tame lodge]

[pale spear]

I remember marksman focus having a restriction where it wouldnt work if you move. is this not the case anymore? i dont see it in the discription

[tall torrent]

Yes been changed

Vet bottom left still sucks tho unfortunately

[pale spear]

oh thats cool

gives me stuff to experiment with

[limpid hatch]

Okay im starting to hate doing the accuracy penance

[heavy rover]

Marksman focus works well with helbore though

[tall torrent]

point cost (and opportunity cost) still is pretty ass

[bleak tendon]

This cleave talent is so peak 💔

[pseudo fiber]

Let me give this a try buddy

but also I'm gonna use pf

[tall torrent]

I tried
doesn't feel good without atk speed

also this rending setup actually matters for tac axe a bit for carapace

since it has low base ADM vs carapace

whereas falchion when activated has ok (not great) carapace ADM

[pseudo fiber]

fair

I've not asked this in a while
what's the current curio meta

[boreal zenith]

anyone else crashing when picking up ammo? i know its a mod i just cant tell which one

[tall torrent]

I run a rly wack curio setup

[tall torrent]

numeric UI?

do u use that

could be

[boreal zenith]

ill test it

[quiet lark]

if ure using an old version of ration pack i know it was causing a crash too

[boreal zenith]

im using the one called 'stable modlist'

apparently not so stable

[pseudo fiber]

has true level been fixed yet

or do I still get to guess my salvage

[tall torrent]

just don't use it

true lvl means nothing anyway

[pseudo fiber]

number go up path

[pseudo fiber]

yeah it;s good lol

[tall torrent]

nice

[pseudo fiber]

I was using IX lasgun though

1 hit gunners and 2 hit reapers in exe

p nice

[tall torrent]

IX also ok

[pseudo fiber]

I got kappa node so I can slow burn the hell outta that tech remnants thingy

I want my ocsmetics

but I ain't playing malice

[gentle lake]

is there a way to disable the zoom in on exec stance

[pseudo fiber]

No

I'm not sure if there's even a mod that does it

But by god has path been asking

[void dragon]

it takes 3 stacks of surgical to trigger on gorgo, around 5 on Achlys and near instant on Krourk

I kinda feel scammed that the same blessing work different on each one

still would want to know your opinion on what is the best way to make those mks

[tall torrent]

~0.6s reset for gorgonum and ~1s reset for achlys then

which means to get good value out of opening salvo on achlys u need to shoot at ~60rpm (in another fps game this would be like bolt action rifle firerate)

a significant dps drop

[void dragon]

It is supposed to be a one-hit beast for the ogryn, but for all the flairs and issues it has (like taking an entire perk to swap it as fast as a Helbore) it should be stronger in its impact

[boreal zenith]

whats the best thing to do with trash weapons?

[hollow ibex]

sell or upgrade to green and trade for mastery if you haven't mastered the weapon

[boreal zenith]

how do u sell

also for infantry lasgun are we using mk7 or 9

[somber axle]

All three are fine and it's mostly preference

between those two I prefer the 9

[tall torrent]

both are mid, use what u prefer

[spare cedar]

is onslaught a good talent for the tac axe?

[latent star]

Nah, especially not compared to what else is available that far down the tree

[spare cedar]

i had agile engagement initially but i swapped it for rending strikes

[latent star]

rending is pretty weapon specific and I don't think its generally strong on tac axe

[toxic reef]

agile is better

[spare cedar]

ok

[steep flower]

I would take agile & replace toughness node for it if you use shredders/weapons that benefit from rending; vet gets alot of toughness overall & 1 25 node is enough

[final abyss]

which bolt pistol mk do u guys use for lethal prox build?

[steep flower]

You can use both; don’t matter for the blessings

[final abyss]

oooh okay

is the shredder better or flak?

[steep flower]

Shredder obv

[final abyss]

alrightie

[pale spear]

I wish shock trooper worked on non las weapons

[turbid ibex]

God no

[clever hedge]

Hive scum would have no role if it did

[turbid ibex]

I wouldnt go that far

Scum would still be much better at magdumping with full auto weapons and melee scum exists

[grand perch]

Vigi autoguns with surgical go brrrrrt

[turbid ibex]

Revolver with weapon specialist

[devout plank]

I agree they should rework that talent

[pseudo fiber]

We don't bring attention to shock trooper

What we do is ask for a hotshot lasgun

With clavicade

[native ocean]

One day we will surely get backpack mounted weapons for vet

Surely...

[frigid rover]

maybe in the next warbond

[orchid hemlock]

One day we will get mounts

[half glade]

Just add an extra condition of "headshots with any weapon not spend ammo" to it, it will thematically match the whole down-left part of tree

or at least "weakspot kills with any weapon"

[full compass]

does anyone get the little red text when signing in that the game servers may be slow check your connection? Ive reset my internet and called so many times and im not sure if its me

[turbid ibex]

We really dont need another infinite ammo class

[tame lodge]

We need 1 more and it should be Ogryn

[half glade]

I seriously doubt that significant percentage of DT players will be able to exploit the second option (not spend ammo on weakspot kill) into infinite ammo in speedy, spasmatically twitchy hoard shooter with piss shit visibility

[turbid ibex]

Yeah a significant percentage of players is dogshit at the game

Doesnt mean we should give infinite ammo to anyone that actually has good aim

[half glade]

I would say we should, if it makes a class's playstile more viable to an average player too? Good players taking builds to extreme is the least concern to me. Every potato on arbitrator destroying balance by rolling their face on keyboard, on the other hand..

[turbid ibex]

Vet's playstyle leans a lot more into hybrid than just shooting

[pseudo fiber]

We did that and hive scum happened

[turbid ibex]

Hive scum gave infinite ammo to anyone lol

Didnt even require aim for the most part

But yeah infinite ammo is not something we need more of

[tough nova]

Unrestrained dakka plz

[turbid ibex]

Besides you already have survivalist giving you free ammo

[pseudo fiber]

I think they should turn everyone's guns off as punishment for an update

Everyone go use melee

[sick sluice]

playing vet after a loong while, running plasma gun, someone give me a melee wep to use

anything but power sword

[pseudo fiber]

Tac axe

[sick sluice]

ive been using that a lot on arby, which is what i was playing before vet switch, so ill gladly take it

thanks, i just didnt want to decide myself :>

[pseudo fiber]

That's fair

Tacaxe is really good

[sick sluice]

ive only just learnt to love it

ive missed out

[tame lodge]

Power Sword

[sick sluice]

when i played vet it was all i used, or duelling sword orz

im on a quest to use every weapon now that im quite decent at the game

power falchion tho,, havent tried that

[pseudo fiber]

I mean you could

Hahah

Its uhh certainly one of the weapons

[sick sluice]

im sticking to taxe since you said it, but i gotta give that a fair go too

yeah so i heard

[turbid ibex]

Rashad combat axe

[sick sluice]

havent tried comb axe but i have a good roll so ill try it after a few vet taxe runs

since i know taxe already

cheers

[south spindle]

Don't listen to these heretics, TacAxe is the best weapon and I will die on this hill

Probably whilst surrounded by Crushers

[sick sluice]

im too young into the taxe cycle to declare such things

but its the best melee weapon ive been using by far, besides scum shivs

on a "personal useage/vibe" level mind you

[south spindle]

Smh, become a true follower of the cult of TacAxe and run it on Scum too

[sick sluice]

same with combat shotgun tbh, its actually so good..

ill do it, but first i wanna try dclaw on scum tbh

[south spindle]

Also very fun tbf, can't fault it

Its not as good, but if you're gonna run it on anyone, Scum is the best pick

[sick sluice]

o7

i was saying to someone earlier. im a big "one weapon only" kinda person, i want to learn them all and choose my fave based on vibe, rather than builds

unfortunately im a follower of builds, not a builder of my own

i lose so much of the game only doing 1 wep zzz

[south spindle]

Read Kuli's guides honestly, then you have less need to follow builds and will make ones that suit how you play for yourself

[tough nova]

Other than the highest difficulties you can make a lot of stuff work. Find what's fun.

[boreal zenith]

if i only care about clearing hordes, would mk3 sword be better than mk6?

[turbid ibex]

power sword?

if so then no

mk6 is pretty much a direct upgrade

[boreal zenith]

oh ok

[hollow ibex]

Mk3 is just objectively worse in every regard

Peak game design

[turbid ibex]

You can use the special while sprinting tho

[slow spade]

the MK6 even has a better moveset lmao

mk3's hordeclear is on heavy while mk6 is on lights

[orchid hemlock]

That extra mobility BABYYY

[hollow ibex]

Technically mk6 has better mobility

[tough nova]

6 is better 3 is more stylish

[boreal zenith]

if im using a bolter should i even try to headshot or just spray the body?

[hollow ibex]

You usually want aimed shots against the head

Spraying is only for emergencies

[void dragon]

It would always be good to aim for headshots (the gun can put big holes even on bosses when weak spot are hit), but with how hard the bolters can hit it isn't that tragic to hit body, the true tragedy is spraying at a wall, that gun is very hungry

[prisma vessel]

Finally reinstalled my name-it mod

[jovial yarrow]

Out for Blood's main perk seems to be in allowing bleed and explosions to regen toughness. Sense Confirmed Kill and Exhilarating Take Down enable ranged attacks to regen toughness with better values.
If I am not taking shredders, Serrated Blade, or have a bleed blessing, is the point better spent elsewhere?

[tame lodge]

Also adds another 5% to your melee kill toughness replenish
Making it 10% per melee kill

But yeah

Spend somewhere else

[jovial yarrow]

Yeah I didn’t think doubling melee toughness regen would be enough, despite it on paper sounding good enough.

[charred halo]

is knife good for anything other than speedrunning

[turbid ibex]

Single target damage and uncanny stacking

[charred halo]

so do i pair it with a braced auto or smth for hordes

[turbid ibex]

Double barrel

Brautos suck

[south spindle]

Your DB has the same name as mine

[prisma vessel]

I reckon its a popular reference 😄

[south spindle]

Aye, for the old heads anyway

[prisma vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-stick-army-of-darkness-bruce-campbell-gun-this-gif-17346017

[faint beacon]

Idgaf how old or young someone is it’s a mandatory watch

[charred halo]

didnt even know that existed, i will have a lot of fun with this

[boreal zenith]

how do i get a red weapon?

[narrow frost]

You don't

It's a visual mod

[boreal zenith]

ah ok

i remember red weapons from vermintide

[hollow ibex]

Download the mod

I think it’s called red weapons at home

[night ledge]

are the guides for builds on gameslantern good or is there any other resource?

[toxic reef]

pinned messages in the class chats

[turbid ibex]

a lot of builds on gameslantern can be complete dogshit and people still upvote them

[night ledge]

ah alright thanks guys

veteran build slayer for power falchion?

[toxic reef]

yeah you can prob run some WS build in pinned

not that it's that good of a weapon

[turbid ibex]

falchion is pretty mid

[night ledge]

damn i thought it was pretty good, im only doing auric so far though

whats the best weps for havoc?

[woven oak]

Power Sword

It does bonkers damage

[night ledge]

yea that seems to ohk everything with the special lol

[turbid ibex]

Power cycler blessing is mandatory for it to function

But with power cycler its one of the best melee weapons in the game

[night ledge]

yee I got that, not really liking that specific powerup tho power falchion is more like the relic blade

with the powersword u get a couple good swings in then u gotta activate it again

[turbid ibex]

You can block cancel the animation with the mk6

[hollow ibex]

It takes more effort to use but it’s prob around 2x stronger than falch tbh

[willow prairie]

its also a lot safer despite activation slow you down a tons because it actually have stagger

[visual dove]

downloaded 200 mods

[tame lodge]

I'm so sorry for you

https://tenor.com/view/crine-im-crine-son-im-crine-anthony-mackie-tiktok-gif-10273212848663596705

[visual dove]

[willow prairie]

me when im in (bloated modlist with 2 trillion shitty mod) and my competition is mez mod pack

[heavy rover]

I found myself enjoying power sword more with Trench Fighter Drill

[slow spade]

classic noob mistake using a melee weapon

you're suppose to be shooting 100% of the time UwU

[sonic kayak]

It's good without, and absolutely fucks with

[lavish lotus]

For the infantry lasgun, what are its best blessings?

[orchid hemlock]

I go ghost and headhunter

Idk if they changed since the buff but I doubt it

[lavish lotus]

Is infernus weak or not helpful?

[tall torrent]

doesn't scale well besides recon and maybe laspistol

[lavish lotus]

Ah

[turbid ibex]

headhunter and either ghost or deadly accurate

[hollow ibex]

Efficiency

[tall torrent]

I wish it was good but it's meh

[hollow ibex]

Sounds like the Ilas problem in general

[jovial yarrow]

Even on the slower firing marks?

[hollow ibex]

Yeah

The problem is even more obvious on the slower marks. Helbore is right there

[heavy rover]

plus with Sunder and Serrated Edge, the amount of bleed stacks I can put on a horde is insane

[orchid hemlock]

Too slow to stack

[sonic kayak]

It's what I use

[slow spade]

bleed on the sword that kills in 1-2 hits?

[tall torrent]

on sunder it has value for mixed horde

because ur not actually killing 5 maulers in 1~2 hits

ur prob taking 7~8

[devout quest]

Hi guys, is there any recommended build for the new game mode?

[willow rain]

A good one

[void dragon]

i had success using a modified version of the slayer build (in the guide, you can found in the pins) that trades the always prepared for more ammo using a helbore mk5 and a chain axe mk 12 running smoke nades

the idea is that long range is important but you still need to kill some enemies in melee, so keeping exe stance for tracking bombers and toughness battery in melee is very good, add the smokes to nulify other gunner swarms and you can set your team (and sometimes solo an objetive) with quite good ease

[devout quest]

slayer build and use smoke grenades

[void dragon]

wait a sec

[devout quest]

?

[void dragon]

this is what i use, its tweaked for my liking so you might want to slot some thing in and out

optimally speaking taxe is very good for mobility and combat,but i just like the chain axe

[devout quest]

chain axe are funny

[void dragon]

indeed

and i feel its a solid weapon

[devout quest]

cadia mk iv or mk xiiig?

[void dragon]

the chaxe? im using the mk12