1's better at everything
#veteran-class
hollow ibex
and the beauty of 1 is
it's braindead
see a crusher? light spam
see a horde? light spam
see a boss? you get the idea...
hybrid pulsar
Is s2 moveset that bad?
quasi rover
What's the best dump stat for a power sword? Mobility or cleave?
hollow ibex
yes because it relies on heavies
hollow ibex
What's the best dump stat for a power sword? Mobility or cleave?
cleave target
and heavies on falch
are totally dogshit
quasi rover
not the falchion, just power sword
hollow ibex
because fatshart doesn't know how to balance the game for shit
hollow ibex
not the falchion, just power sword
yeah i was talking about PS
hollow ibex
oh that part's about falch
but actually it's pretty much the case for PS too
so that works 
quasi rover
lmao works for me
do yall prefer the dueling sword or power sword? im just trying out random stuff while i learn vet
errant bear
do yall prefer the dueling sword or power sword? im just trying out random stuff...
Duelling
tidal fox
powersword has great cleave when dealing with a lot of carapace
duelling is more of a single target thing with bad cleave
quasi rover
dueling stab heavy feels pretty strong yeah
tidal fox
especially with weapon specialist
but generally powersword is very strong
it's just slow
and higher skill floor than all melee weapons for vet I would say?
hybrid pulsar
oh that part's about falch
Wait wait
So your telling me
The mark that’s with more heavy damage
Is better for light spam
And the mark with more light damage is better for heavy spam?
tall torrent
just check pinned guide
hollow ibex
And the mark with more light damage is better for heavy spam?
well it's not heavy spam
hybrid pulsar
I’m just trying to see the pros and differences between each
hollow ibex
it's a normal moveset which incorporates lights and heavies
which naturallly makes it worse
because that means the moveset is contaminated by the very slow heavies that falch gets
which decreases your damage output overall
this is on the old crusher hp but with mk1 your ability to chain light / push attacks so rapidly
completely offsets the damage bonus from heavies
tame lodge
do yall prefer the dueling sword or power sword? im just trying out random stuff...
I like my generalists
So I like power sword more
tall torrent
I’m just trying to see the pros and differences between each
mk1 is easier to use
but neither is that good
frank basin
lucid crest
has anyone else just lost all motivation to play darktide
tall torrent
no update & bad event
desert viper
has anyone else just lost all motivation to play darktide
hi Madeline
lucid crest
no update & bad event
nah its not the lack of updates or shit events
im just sick of playing a game owned by such a comically greedy company
toxic reef
idk, idt my gameplay is affected by the mtx store
because I wouldn't call the two DLC classes greedy really
but then again this game stopped me playing warframe after playing that for 12 years, so I've lost all motivation to play one game at least
toxic reef
core gameplay just stopped being satisfying there, where I always feel satisfied queuing up any auric game here
tall torrent
im just sick of playing a game owned by such a comically greedy company
what happened now
lucid crest
what happened now
killed the best helmet in the game and turned it into a paid cosmetic
toxic reef
I thought they'd own it like they did with the cross-class head cosmetics for arbites
but it was prob too similar to the paid
lucid crest
it was pretty obvious that it was a bug from the very start
even if its a bug its scummy and underhanded as fuck to immediately turn it into a paid cosmetic
especially when it looks the exact same
i doubt a single person ever complained about the free helmet looking too cool lmao
unreal nova
even if its a bug its scummy and underhanded as fuck to immediately turn it into...
Thing is, that could have been already made and someone just messed up and added the lens to the free thing due to spaghetti code and likely incode naming.
lucid crest
yeah whatev
tall torrent
even if its a bug its scummy and underhanded as fuck to immediately turn it into...
the cosmetic being made was scheduled before the bug occured, it's a bad situation but it is what it is
tropic halo
Why is this a surprise to some people when this has a theme since game release
Including the shop treatment
desert viper
Why is this a surprise to some people when this has a theme since game release <...
newer players get baffled
I mean
Anyone who isn't desensitized to it should be baffled
it's not a nice strategy for the consumer
unreal nova
Why is this a surprise to some people when this has a theme since game release <...
Maybe a sense on entitlement?
torpid sundial
I tried ilas
why does it suck so bad compared to other guns
or maybe im the problem
laspistol feels like a superior ilasgun 🤔
unreal nova
laspistol feels like a superior ilasgun 🤔
Because it is.
Literally what everyone suggest if someone says they like the Inf Las is for them to try the fast mark of the laspistol.
tame lodge
laspistol feels like a superior ilasgun 🤔
Because it is
Except for like
Maniacs or something
void dragon
Except for like
Maniacs or something
Even masochists must surrender to the truth: the most iconic weapons of the setting are quite meh in the best cases
Honestly, the inf Lasgun needs an entire new special to be relevant against it's Lasgun peers, it just doesn't fill a niche the others don't do already
thorn lark
Passive charge mod is a game changer for the helbore
void dragon
Passive charge mod is a game changer for the helbore
True, being able to go back to clicking heads with the sniper gun is so good (idk why the concept of releasing to shoot was used to begin with).
woven harness
We should get a new class thats just like one of the catlyon abb humans
tame lodge
Cats from Cats
woven harness
Not new class
Like background
For vet
Tuff
I just wanna have an excuse to yell NYA at the top of my lungs mid match 😭 😭 😭
tame lodge
Just do it
Professional canonically barks
Cutthroat canonically growls
Loose Cannon
dusk osprey
@unreal nova sorry for the ping i totally knew i had the clip. i fucked up bad not seeing it;
it wasn't pinged at any point and audio-wise i could mostly only hear the burgle at the time iirc. i only realized visually with the frozen effect on the camera
but im not actually sure how i killed it here tbh lmao. it just kinda gave up
when it stood up i literally yelled 😭
"GYAAAAA shit 😭"
sly orchid
<@229302123391614976> sorry for the ping i totally knew i had the clip. i fucke...
You staggered the host into a chasm
So its instakilled
dusk osprey
You staggered the host into a chasm
lmao get hole'd idiot
analog mural
Floating demon dies to fall damage
void dragon
Floating demon dies to fall damage <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Nothing, not even the warp demons, can match the power of the greatest evil that is gravity
thorn lark
True, being able to go back to clicking heads with the sniper gun is so good (id...
releasing to shoot goes against 26 years of fps experience in my case
void dragon
true evil
Unchallenged, undefeated, undeniable
Even Fromsoftware bosses crumble beneath him
dark lava
By the Emperor, I'm a miserable Veteran. I can barely survive Hersey. Y'all are just built different or something.
turbid ibex
By the Emperor, I'm a miserable Veteran. I can barely survive Hersey. Y'all are ...
yes
void dragon
thorn lark
amber vortex
atomic onyx
Why are power swords used, but falchions are not? They seem similar enough
turbid ibex
power sword is legit top 3 melee weapons in the whole game
atomic onyx
Yeah, I can definitely see that, but im wondering about the falchion
tall torrent
Why are power swords used, but falchions are not? They seem similar enough
Falchion is <half of power sword’s dps
void dragon
Less than the rashad while needing to manage the heat minigame
thorn lark
Falchion is <half of power sword’s dps
trail ore
Why are power swords used, but falchions are not? They seem similar enough
I mean, on base they're about the same, but the blessings are what sets them apart (power sword blessings are fucked up).
void dragon
Is crazy how power cycler makes the Psword so busted beyond understanding
Without it it would be so inconsequential
trail ore
shit basically causes space and time collapse in on itself with sheer dps
turbid ibex
i mean power cycler is the thing that makes it not trash
void dragon
Well...maybe not, but not as bad
trail ore
i mean power cycler is the thing that makes it not trash
trve, without power cycler it would be dreadful.
serene bough
Its more amazing to me that they designed the powersword to be best in class for 1 swing and utterly laughable and bad when uncharged
turbid ibex
Its more amazing to me that they designed the powersword to be best in class for...
originally it had more than 1 powered swing at base right?
turbid ibex
now its more like they tried to balance it by making it require power cycler
tame lodge
originally it had more than 1 powered swing at base right?
Yeah
turbid ibex
which didnt work lmao
serene bough
I wish it took the SM2 approach where activating changes moveset
Or at the very least the weapon was serviceable without charging and the charge mechanic had a cooldown but hit even harder than it does now
void dragon
now its more like they tried to balance it by making it require power cycler
It was supposed to be like the heretic captains, one swing supercharged, but the issue is that the base damage is depression inducing
atomic void
I wish it took the SM2 approach where activating changes moveset
sm2's approach is flawed cause the changing moveset dont matter 
u just spam power rakes and power waves
but yes good concept
plain escarp
Are you kidding me
turbid ibex
lol
toxic reef
waiter, I require 1 mil more credits, please
plain escarp
It's literally unusable
heavy rover
Literally unplayable smh
warm torrent
Are you kidding me
I haven’t used plasma guns yet. What’s the issue with the stats?
plain escarp
I haven’t used plasma guns yet. What’s the issue with the stats?
It is 1% away from being a 10/10. Charge rate should be 69% and not 70%. Thermal should be 71% as it is
warm torrent
I see. And then have stopping power at 80?
plain escarp
yes
tall torrent
sm2's approach is flawed cause the changing moveset dont matter <:Haha:107993322...
I like how sm2 has all those moveset chains just for all the melee weapons to exclusively spam 2 attacks all the time
tame lodge
I haven’t used plasma guns yet. What’s the issue with the stats?
@tired egret
atomic void
I like how sm2 has all those moveset chains just for all the melee weapons to ex...
me when my light attacks do 1 dmg
heroic pfist is like the only weapon where u can light spam
tall torrent
me when my light attacks do 1 dmg
power axe has like
3 attacks
and it's the most varied one of them all
atomic void
its unironically the chainsword
the punch is nice stagger
the should bash is goated
the double stomp is fun asf
the funny kick after first light is decent for stunlocking
tall torrent
its unironically the chainsword
dt chainsword left such a bad impression for me that I just don't bother with it in sm2
atomic void
u technically only need anim cancel and shoulder bash but all of the attacks have their use
atomic void
dt chainsword left such a bad impression for me that I just don't bother with it...
well here's the thing all the good attacks on sm2's chainsword arent with the chainsword xdddd
its still one of the most fun weapons cause the moveset involves your marine using his big ass frame
tall torrent
yea that's the only way to make chainsword good
"not use the chainsword"
I was actually gonna put "swap to ranged" as single target recommended combo for chainsword in my guide
atomic void
well sm2 doesnt have the stupid sticky shit, it has bad lights
tall torrent
considering getting BT champ in sm2
atomic void
fun fact there's 1 move where u charge it and u sew someone and its only used for animation cancel 
tall torrent
fun fact there's 1 move where u charge it and u sew someone and its only used fo...
yea ik
atomic void
considering getting BT champ in sm2
my beloved
tall torrent
my beloved
it's the only szn pass 2 item I actually like
dry cloak
When playing sm2 i didnt bother with anination cancels or what not
No one will stop me light spamming chainsword or fast stance powersword
tall torrent
fast stance power sword is nice
tall torrent
I'd like to get used to balanced but block just better
dry cloak
I just have problem with how thunder hammer was handled in sm2
atomic void
block is still the best but ive been enjoying balanced xenophase
actual nuke of a weapon
atomic void
I just have problem with how thunder hammer was handled in sm2
nah its good
once u get used to it
its a nuke
atomic void
fun fact balance hammer rn has the highest raw dmg outside of 2 charge blocks
so it can be used a lot more offensively since u dont need to get 2 charges
dry cloak
fun fact balance hammer rn has the highest raw dmg outside of 2 charge blocks
It certainly doesnt feel like it
atomic void
well idk when u played
dry cloak
At least in my experience
atomic void
but balance weapons got patched this and last 2 patches
dry cloak
well idk when u played
December
atomic void
yeah u didnt get the buffs
atomic void
u can do the exact same shit
atomic void
whatever floats yo boat 
tall torrent
but balance weapons got patched this and last 2 patches
doesn't balance just have more dmg than block outside of block 2 charge rn?
atomic void
that's what im saying yeah
atomic void
yes
but its especially important on hammer cause it makes u do less attacks to kill things on a slow weapon
tall torrent
but its especially important on hammer cause it makes u do less attacks to kill ...
but xenophase ps does less dmg than relic balanced ps
shame
atomic void
doesnt matter caue the attacks that matter do 20% more
frigid swallow
is the helmet for the Trooper Gerrent Juker skin considered the karsrkin helmet or is there a difference?
burnt oxide
What’s the havoc “meta” for vet
pastel knoll
plasma gun to beam elites from distance and power sword everything else 🙂
tall torrent
is the helmet for the Trooper Gerrent Juker skin considered the karsrkin helmet ...
it is the kasrkin omnishield helmet
bugged & clips into itself tho
nova carbon
hey , a newbie just starting vet - is building for nades a viable strat?
silver patrol
yes
nova carbon
i heard plasma gun is good and i wanna get that but the other thing i can't decide on is the melee
silver patrol
i think basically every vet build takes some nades talents in any case
silver patrol
i heard plasma gun is good and i wanna get that but the other thing i can't deci...
try the shovel
probably the best weapon for new players
nova carbon
try the shovel
using it rn.
silver patrol
decent at everything
nova carbon
the spike one
turbid ibex
mk1 is the one that doesnt fold
silver patrol
yeah that's the one
nova carbon
Ive also seen that vet has some power weapons , they any good?
silver patrol
The powersword is the best melee in the game, maybe
nova carbon
the sword and the other sword i cannot pronounce the name of
turbid ibex
power sword is top 3 melees in the game
silver patrol
the falchion exists, supposedly
turbid ibex
falchion is ok
silver patrol
the falchion exists, supposedly
but we aren't sure about this
nova carbon
god i hope fatshark adds a semi auto to auto toggle
carpal tunnel on vet has been my biggest hurdle
nova carbon
get the autofire mod
i know i gotta get it
serene bough
sm2's approach is flawed cause the changing moveset dont matter <:Haha:107993322...
I havent played SM2 beyond the campaign
silver patrol
seems to me like the big draw of SM2 is more the mp than the singleplayer
the opposite of SM1
nova carbon
i know i gotta get it
doesn't mean it shouldn't be made in the game itself
silver patrol
i'm just saying that fatshark can't be relied on to add the most basic functions
nova carbon
ever since warframe added a toggle like that i feel like it should be in every game
serene bough
seems to me like the big draw of SM2 is more the mp than the singleplayer
Yeah but
nova carbon
i'm just saying that fatshark can't be relied on to add the most basic functions
idk , im pretty new compared to yall
serene bough
Darktide blows SM2 out of the water in gameplay so I never bothered
nova carbon
i have 50 h and most on oggy so idk
serene bough
idk , im pretty new compared to yall
Fatshark more or less makes good updates, its just that youll have to wait several months
Roughly 1 update per quarter
silver patrol
several years
nova carbon
Fatshark more or less makes good updates, its just that youll have to wait sever...
oh then im used to that
serene bough
And updates will sometimes hit but other times feel lackluster
serene bough
Ive been mostly in favor of the updates coming out
nova carbon
damn i thought it was worse based on how ppl talk abt it
serene bough
Then again I havent played darktide in a few weeks so im somewhat in break
serene bough
damn i thought it was worse based on how ppl talk abt it
Disliking FS is trendy, but its also trendy for good reason
nova carbon
damn i thought it was worse based on how ppl talk abt it
but this feels just like warframe to me but with like 4 less smaller updates
nova carbon
Disliking FS is trendy, but its also trendy for good reason
the cosmetic shop
i heard
silver patrol
among others
nova carbon
and i do not like that but ya gotta make money somehow
wish they made it in a better way but i understand
silver patrol
yeah but i thought the cosmetic shop's reason to exist was to make free updates
not also sell dlcs anyway
serene bough
the cosmetic shop
One of many reasons yeah
Im not bothered too much by these things personally
somber axle
I quit for a year and came back to 2 new classes, new missions, new weapons, etc. and didn't even feel like I missed out on any good cosmetics tbh
Except maybe Vostroyan for the Helbore
Game is still fun
I was kinda disappointed in the Arbites because it plays fantastic but I kinda thought it would have some effect on the story and the only change was removing the funny inquisition moments of Morrow saying "ya gotta prove yerself" and then Rannick shooting someone
Like you get one intro cutscene and then they sorta cease to exist in the story in any meaningful way
I'm surprised others are upset with the current event because I've been having a lot of fun with it but if you've been waiting ages for new content and haven't taken a break it probably isn't too interesting
silver patrol
it's a rather big step down from the ration event
and the one before this was also trash
somber axle
What was the ration event?
silver patrol
ok so
well, it had a lot of it, but basically the community was split between recovering rations (a pickup in the map) or destroying them
if at the start of the day, pick up rations side was winning, all the stimms were buffed to give you permanent bonuses for the map
if the destroy side was winning, all guns had double the ammo and infinite cleave
also most trash enemies were replaced with moebians
somber axle
That's really funny but also how was destroying food making guns shoot infinitely
amber vortex
What was the one with the radio operator? That was fun
silver patrol
it's justified by the fact that destroying food means tertium rebelled for lack of food
so i dunno, you gunned down some people
somber axle
Wouldn't you have less workers and less labor for the manufactorums so less ammo crafted so less to go around
If they're rebelling they're not working
silver patrol
no idea lol, it was a bit nonsense, but still
tame lodge
What was the one with the radio operator? That was fun
Tainted Airwaves or something
somber axle
Funny event moment of shhh don't think about it is fine
silver patrol
i mean, if you picked up the food (it's tainted)
somber axle
The thousands of ogryns and hundreds of poxbursters don't make sense either but it's still fun
amber vortex
Tainted Airwaves or something
I remember liking it
somber axle
Were the moebians spiking their rations with combat stims or something
I can see a desperate Wolfer or a cult of admonition play doing that to try to get the average groaner/shooter to be more of a threat and then it backfiring hard
silver patrol
oh also
if the pick up ration side was winning, there were increased monstrosities spawns
frigid kite
The thousands of ogryns and hundreds of poxbursters don't make sense either but ...
fun?! funnn?! how DARE we.
silver patrol
if the destroy side was winning, you had mutant wawes
i think
good times, it was genuinely a fun event
somber axle
The last event I played before I took a year long break was something about the Moebian 21st becoming infected and having a lot more flak/cleave values so it messed with people and basic hordes killed a lot of players in quickplay
silver patrol
that sounds just like the moebian mutator
somber axle
fun?! funnn?! how DARE we.
I'm very down for dumb fun I'm just always curious if there's a fun story reason to make it more fun LOL
silver patrol
where the random trash is replaced by moebians and yeah, they alone are a pain
somber axle
I enjoyed Pacific Rim and like Godzilla movies
I'm ok just turning off my brain to have fun
That Moebian 21st event was so funny because no groaners no poxwalkers just infected Moebian 21st dudes and I could swear it gave the average quickplay group more trouble than the Ogryns and Poxburster trains I've seen this event
Look away for 2 seconds and the Psyker is down again
silver patrol
yeah you can't just keep swining against the trash like usual, your can't kill them fast enough, and weapons like the knife or the duelling sword just eat even more shit against those hordes
the ration event gave you double ammo and infinite cleave on guns tho you mowed them down still
somber axle
It was so funny watching people try to Dueling Sword their way through 21st hordes and get bullied
The new Dueling Sword parry is neat
Why'd they remove the quick jab stagger
silver patrol
because it was pretty ass
it doesn't make sense, it's just kinda ugly and a bit silly
somber axle
That's fair I'm just surprised because Devil's Claw is already the funny parry sword
silver patrol
a strange slash from the top?
somber axle
I want to love chainsword and I know it was changed too but when I need to clean up Carapace or Flak it just falls apart
It's still fun sometimes but wow it's not a good weapon for this event
Also yeah the Dueling Sword counterattack being a slash is odd
Probably just because it looks like they reused the animation for the devil's claw parry
And going from that weird lifted and angled hold to a thrust is just silly
Maybe if they gave the parry animation something unique that set it up for a thrust it would work better
somber axle
I remember messing around with blessings, perks and talents to try to get a rev one shot on Crushers with it and it was doable but that was before Crusher HP got buffed
Idk if that's even possible anymore
quasi rover
i assumed it wouldnt be good since it's so short but the combat knife feels pretty good so far
somber axle
2 revs to kill a Crusher even when you build around it and sacrifice horde clear is still so agonizingly slow
quasi rover
is combat knife ACTUALLY good at higher diff?
hearty panther
yes
hybrid pulsar
is combat knife ACTUALLY good at higher diff?
uncanny strike is on it soo
basically most weapons with that are good
silver patrol
Combat knife is just good
somber axle
It has weaker horde clear vs other weapons like Power Sword, TacAxe, Rashad Axe, etc. but it's a strong mobility tool and a good can opener. It's fine but you will sweat more fighting a mixed horde than using other weapons
hybrid pulsar
It has weaker horde clear vs other weapons like Power Sword, TacAxe, Rashad Axe,...
hate it
having no clear when enemies are swarming is not for me lmao
silver patrol
it's not like it has no clear
amber vortex
I like chainsword just because feels
somber axle
I like knife sometimes but you definitely feel it when you are slowly grinding away at a mixed horde
silver patrol
but it's certainly a much, much better melee than chainsword
then again, most melee are prob
somber axle
I think shovel is my personal fav, not because it is one of the best (it's not) but because I love the WHUMP sound when it hits things
silver patrol
is that a zealot node
somber axle
I like the 2H Chainsword on Zealot more than the 1H Chainsword
hybrid pulsar
its purgation flamer
hybrid pulsar
you'd have no way to handle crushers
isnt that what kracks and chainsword is used for?
imo the chain weapons just need a buff overall
somber axle
Infantry Lasguns and Chainswords need love yeah
silver patrol
oh i thought you were asking for zealot
Chainsword need to be less about that garbo latch on special
hybrid pulsar
Infantry Lasguns and Chainswords need love yeah
i have not seen an infantry lassgun since the start
somber axle
I wouldn't rely too heavily on Kraks because you have to prepare for when you don't have a Krak grenade
silver patrol
all chains weapons, really
hybrid pulsar
like i see autoguns more than them
even the revolver
like infantry lasguns , what are their good use outside of flashlight ?
somber axle
I saw some iLas users with the Cadian cosmetics going SM2 NPC mode
But yeah it's just such a low tier Vet weapon and it doesn't help than the Laspistol does the exact same job better
quasi rover
having no clear when enemies are swarming is not for me lmao
im using the recon las to do some clearing and its working fine so far, not sure if im trolling or not
hybrid pulsar
But yeah it's just such a low tier Vet weapon and it doesn't help than the Laspi...
better job , more mobility
somber axle
The iLas needs more to set it apart from the Laspistol imo
hybrid pulsar
im using the recon las to do some clearing and its working fine so far, not sure...
do you have the node that makes critical shots dont cost ammo?
for laser weapons
quasi rover
yeah
hybrid pulsar
then should be fine
somber axle
It doesn't have a unique identity other than weaker Laspistol with funny sights
hybrid pulsar
i barely use that gun tbh
silver patrol
the ias needs more to set it apart from the helbore if anything
literally outclassed by every las weapon
amber vortex
Ewe, helbore
hybrid pulsar
the ias needs more to set it apart from the helbore if anything
its a worse hellbore yeah
somber axle
It really is
hybrid pulsar
the sights are ok ish on i las
silver patrol
bro it has recoil
somber axle
That's just because goofy playtesters said the Lasguns felt bad so Fatshark added recoil
hybrid pulsar
bro it has recoil
i las yeah, weird how the high power charge rifle doesnt
silver patrol
or the pistol
hybrid pulsar
but the infantry mas produced wet tissue paper model has
silver patrol
or the recon
hybrid pulsar
guess thats why the guard dies so much lmao
hybrid pulsar
or the recon
yeah idk why the devs added it
when i was leveling up my vet
i can remember dropping it instanly for any other gun
no damage , no mobility , recoil.
only good thing is that its ammo is good
which is the same for most laz weapons lmao
silver patrol
Eh
Helbore and ias are several cut above the laspistol and the recon in ammo efficiency
so ammo efficient it's basically a waste, can't even fire all of that
hybrid pulsar
so ammo efficient it's basically a waste, can't even fire all of that
been using the helborn and laspistol and i swear iv never actually gone into the red lmao
silver patrol
i've never gone below 600 ammo with the helbore
hybrid pulsar
headshot for days lmao
maybe they buff it?
honestly maybe that have stats and see how little its being used
hybrid pulsar
this has been the case for like years
rly?
i stared when the hivescum came out
its been like this for years??
silver patrol
yeah
hybrid pulsar
this bad
silver patrol
i don't think it has been touched since release
it was meta back then
the game changed but the weapon didn't
hybrid pulsar
it was meta back then
now its lore accurate useless
quasi rover
ive gotthe same with a gas mask. i love how the armor looks
amber vortex
Better drip than the krieg
amber vortex
I don't really hate the krieg, honest, but they're my least favorite regiment
mighty python
Their fans can be annoying sometimes
quasi rover
thtas kinda why i like the Cadians. other than saying "Cadia Stands" every 5 min they don't have a "thing" that gets pushed like crazy. just badasses with purple eyes
mighty python
I think its kinda funny how, at least in my experience, the fans of the regiment known for being arrogant and prideful are some of the chillest people I've interacted with in the hobby, as opposed to krieg fans for instance
amber vortex
Honestly, think the krieg would be cooler if they dropped ww1 and went full religious zealot
Like, death masks and stuff
quasi rover
I just never liked the Krieg lore "Oh, your elites rebelled against the Emperor and the military sacrificed everything to take the world back? You've gotta sacrifice your young people forever."
amber vortex
You mean their clone test tub babies? Thanks Lyons, thanks for getting rid of the best part of the guard
Heard the new krieg book was good, probably because Lyons wasn't writing it. Gonna have to pick it up when I have ready cash
warm torrent
What are the ideal stats for the infantry lasgun?
amber vortex
Take laspistol instead
warm torrent
Guessing lasgun doesn’t perform very well atm?
amber vortex
Infi lasgun is just bad
tall torrent
What are the ideal stats for the infantry lasgun?
mob dump
turbid ibex
or collateral
tall torrent
it depends
turbid ibex
collateral usually a better dump stat than mobility
warm torrent
I don’t have an inf las atm. Going around leveling the gear I don’t use. My las pistol is just whatever I’ve got bc it needs to be levelled
frigid kite
I enjoyed Pacific Rim and like Godzilla movies
first Pacific Rim was epic. The theme was fantastic
amber vortex
Las pistol is legitimately just better than infi las
Best thing about infi las is legit sights
quasi rover
yall prefer mark III or mark VI combat knife?
tall torrent
vi
amber vortex
Vi
tall torrent
it's just much better across the board
amber vortex
Depending on play style
quasi rover
id call my general playstyle "bad"
amber vortex
Are you focusing hoards or single targets?
tall torrent
vi is better at both horde and single target
warm torrent
Single targets with the mark perk for extra damage
amber vortex
vi is better at both horde and single target
Agree to disagree
tall torrent
Agree to disagree
it straight up just is lol
amber vortex
I've just had a better time with hoards with III
BUT WE ALL KNOW THE REAL WINNER IS THE CHAINSWORD
CHAIN GANG 4 LIFE
tall torrent
one day they'll make chainsword good in this game
fair shale
It was good in sm1 tbh
tall torrent
maybe even this year
amber vortex
I like chainsword in sm² 🙁
fair shale
You either used chainsword with life steal or thammer with one shot as assault in sm1 horde mode
tall torrent
yea that's like the only good iteration of chainsword so far
and the best part is, the 2 attacks that are good on it aren't using the chainsword
shoulder bash & stomp
warm torrent
I like chainsword in sm² 🙁
Chain sword is the way
somber axle
first Pacific Rim was epic. The theme was fantastic
I didn't know they made more and it's probably for a good reason so I'll just enjoy the first one LOL
Also yeah the theme was amazing
I really liked how the jaegars moved like they had such weight and momentum to them
frigid kite
2nd one feels like Transformers movie
somber axle
Guessing lasgun doesn’t perform very well atm?
The higher in difficulty you go the more you will struggle to make it succeed vs other weapons. I've seen someone here claim they take it into Havoc 40 and I'm sure they make it work but sweat hard to do it
fair shale
It's a real shame they never made a sequel to Pacific rim
somber axle
Other weapons are just a lot stronger right now and if you like Lasguns go Laspistol, Helbore or Recon
If you really want to use Infantry Lasgun you can do it but good luck
It seems like an uphill battle on ice skates
narrow frost
It does pay off though
Inf las is havoc has been fun for dreg seeds for the rager and gunner 1 taps
warm torrent
Other weapons are just a lot stronger right now and if you like Lasguns go Laspi...
Recon is what I normally use
thorn lark
It's a real shame they never made a sequel to Pacific rim
There's Pacific Rim 2, no?
somber axle
Recon is solid. I'd also recommend trying the Helbores. They're very clumsy weapons for the swap speed and reload speed but you can shoot Crushers with it. I've been doing an Executioner's Stance/Marksman's Focus Helbore build for the current event and it consistently 2 taps Crushers, 1 taps Reapers and Bulwarks on crit headshots
tame lodge
They collectively decided to ignore it
somber axle
If you can get past the annoying learning curve of Helbores they're pretty satisfying imo
somber axle
Is it good? I might go watch it
I just sorta assume that if something quietly dies and no one talks about it ever it probably bombed
Like Game of Thrones being such a weird cultural icon and then vanishing without a whimper after the fans hated the last season
tall torrent
The higher in difficulty you go the more you will struggle to make it succeed vs...
helbore backline is actually much more chill compared to hybrid vet in h40
hybrid has to do EVERYTHING
somber axle
I came back to Darktide because a few friends talked me into it
tame lodge
Is it good? I might go watch it
Yes if you're not a hardcore pacific rim fan
And end up pointing where it messes up with the lore and shit
somber axle
helbore backline is actually much more chill compared to hybrid vet in h40
Yeah and I can only imagine how much someone sweats bringing the Infantry Lasgun there instead
somber axle
Yes if you're not a hardcore pacific rim fan
People can be hard-core about a single movie?
Idc about the lore it's basically just Godzilla but giant robots for me. Like all the story is fluff and the main event is the big monster battle
If the battles are fun I can enjoy it
How do you rate the battles in the sequel vs the original movie
tall torrent
Yeah and I can only imagine how much someone sweats bringing the Infantry Lasgun...
infantry lasgun is same playstyle, just can't shoot as many things
somber axle
That sounds kinda awkward as a backline support with your targets more niche
narrow frost
Yeah and I can only imagine how much someone sweats bringing the Infantry Lasgun...
It's also about feel
I can't stand helbore but inf las reminds me of my fps days and rewards my good aim way more then helbore does
somber axle
That's fair. Helbore is so much a love or hate weapon for how clunky it is
Feels like more than any other weapon you want a good cosmetic skin to make it feel less painful to shoot for how bad the default sights are
dusk osprey
kinda want to play darktide but am sick in bed and my xbox account doesn't have the same builds as i have on steam 
dusk osprey
Don't let Nurgle win irl too
nurgle kicking my butt today 😭😭
narrow frost
Double the darktide gamer then I am, only have darktide on 1 device
dusk osprey
Double the darktide gamer then I am, only have darktide on 1 device
i actually started/tried the game on xbox first bc im on old gen so it was through cloud play and i didnt have to install it lmao
after i liked it i got it on steam bc im just overall better on mnk but i like my xbox for certain games like rdr2 and gta
tall torrent
That sounds kinda awkward as a backline support with your targets more niche
yea which is why it's not as good
narrow frost
I just can't work with controllers with some games
I tried awhile ago and it's rough
Props to those who do play with them
fair shale
Idk how anyone uses a controller in any first person game tbh
Or any game with heavy shooting
dusk osprey
I just can't work with controllers with some games
darktide is especially hard on the game-given controls. like you need to claw in order to dodge backwards and pull your grenade out at the same time
or switch weapons
dusk osprey
<:fatshark:1016285431194718278>
more like
narrow frost
It's also bad because of jump/dodge being same keybind
hearty panther
get fucked controller users
tall torrent
I can't play controller on any game lol
hearty panther
you're second class citizens
dusk osprey
idk any game that has custom controller mapping tbch
hearty panther
accept it
somber axle
I tried Darktide on a PS4 controller and even though the controller was more comfy irl it felt painful trying to flick shots in game
fair shale
I can't play controller on any game lol
Dark Souls and racing games tbh
somber axle
I can't escape mouse and keyboard ever
narrow frost
<:Xbox:1153206606545293403> more like
I guess my experience is pretty narrow, didn't think that it was an Xbox problem
dusk osprey
Dark Souls and racing games tbh
yeah basically 3rd person games and driving games
i'm sick sorry
fair shale
Even stuff like Resi, Silent Hill, and Dead Space I prefer KB/M
You're fine ik what you meant
somber axle
I play controller for Monster Hunter World and Monster Hunter Wilds because the person who designed the controls for console users was being silly
But for shooters I need my mouse and keyboard
hearty panther
i am on the hunt for a controller actually, as much as i hate to admit it
cause ninja gaiden on a keyboard just does not work lmao
wild vortex
Imagine if they gave controllers custom keybinds
you can set it up if you're not using like a default PS/xbox controller
I have set up some customization on my 8bitdo
arctic rampart
best melee w/ helbore? ps6? (non-havok prolly, I don't play this game much anymore)
wild vortex
best melee w/ helbore? ps6? (non-havok prolly, I don't play this game much anym...
taxe7 or mk1 shovel in my experience
mystic pilot
Taxe is fun
amber vortex
Not as fun as......
mystic pilot
amber vortex
CHAINSWORD
amber vortex
Ew
mystic pilot
It is simple
It is sturdy
And it will hack without motor or power
And best of all it is quiet until you get to swing it
mystic pilot
It revs and it rips and it tears. This i know
unreal nova
i am on the hunt for a controller actually, as much as i hate to admit it
May I interest you in the latest Gamesir g7 pro 8k? Or if you can wait, the Cyclone 3? (Do note, I don't get paid for this or anything. I just rarely see a controller 'survive' 5 years of abooze gaming. And I kill OG Xbox ones in 1 week to 3 months.)
slow sky
best melee w/ helbore? ps6? (non-havok prolly, I don't play this game much anym...
devils claw is overlooked as a good safety option for this cuz of the parry and is good enough at hordes and nukes ragers which is p much all youll need it for on a helbore build
tropic halo
I legit forgot how good fun hellbore is
agile yew
I legit forgot how good fun hellbore is
Do you have to hold down the button for those shots? If yes, then thats a deal breaker for me
tropic halo
Do you have to hold down the button for those shots? If yes, then thats a deal b...
its hellbore
you not gonna tap fire with it
agile yew
🫃
Pretty quick shooting still, i just hate the hold down button to charge firing mechanism in all games
Like id rather take 0.2s slower reload and just tap it when ready
Than having to press it down to charge
rocky vine
Give vet a melta gun and give ogryn a heavy melta. Make blessing that the melta ignore armor.
Also a blessing that crits at or within half distance cuz Melta X tabletop keyword
mild hill
devils claw is overlooked as a good safety option for this cuz of the parry and ...
wrong don’t you know dclaw sucks and dualing sword is right there !!!
slow sky
wrong don’t you know dclaw sucks and dualing sword is right there !!!
i am going to PEE your FUCKING PANTS
dclaw has the post parry block frames and ds doesnt
mild hill
i am going to PEE your FUCKING PANTS
starting to sound like kez
also how many frames ?
slow sky
also how many frames ?
like .2ms
thats quite generous when considering how fast you can parry back to back
its what makes it so extremely safe against a blob of ragers, as long as you have the stamina to support it
smoky pivot
Hello veterinarians
stable socket
Do you have to hold down the button for those shots? If yes, then thats a deal b...
If you are on PC, there's a mod for it: https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/496?tab=description
agile yew
Okay, that actually might make me wanna try it out finally
Never ever fired any of em yet
My vet has sadly ever only used Vraks IAG and Plasma
toxic reef
I didn't start using helbore until the class rework and ye that mod helps a lot
stable socket
helbore 5 with the 50% swap speed node is about as responsive as it gets, iirc it also has the highest DPS thanks to good fire rate but worst breakpoints
agile yew
New weapon could be something to get me into playing vet more, since ive returned ive played like maybe 5 games on it (thats total for past 2 years)
stable socket
so i would start with that to see how you like the helbore life. if you think "i really like this but i want to hit better breakpoints, even if it means my gun is clunkier and charges slower" then you can try the other marks
agile yew
Problem is i have like 300k, constantly starved on those to level new weapons to 20 and then crafting em
stable socket
it be like that sometimes
agile yew
So the more niche ones get ignored for now
thorn lark
devils claw is overlooked as a good safety option for this cuz of the parry and ...
yes but there is taxe
thorn lark
helbore 5 with the 50% swap speed node is about as responsive as it gets, iirc i...
Honestly you can do without the swap speed note
harsh crest
So I've been trying to get better with the Helbore
Reading back up this channel i see i should really be charging it most of the time?
I typically just use the IIIa (i think, the faster tap-fire one) a lot since i found the heavier charge damage ones to not make much of a difference
Might be due to my weapons being pretty low level
harsh crest
Alright, I'll get used to the slower Mark then
toxic reef
weight of fire blessing also decreases charge time on chained shots
severe hedge
yeah i overlooked weight of fire repeatedly because i was like 'ehhh but i could get something else a bit more exciting' and then i actually used it and nothing is more exciting than being able to actually shoot things at an appreciable rate LOL
harsh crest
That was one of the first things i went for, chaining charges quicker seemed pretty good
icy moat
I legit forgot how good fun hellbore is
If you jump you can see over bulwark shields and head shot them
torpid sundial
Honestly I feel that for a melee build falchion dps is about equal to the pow sword
*when it is powered
thorn lark
i feel =! facts
tame lodge
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news dawg
I should definitely stop raining on people's parade
That being said
I won't
thorn lark
do you use the pa + l on the mk6?
torpid sundial
yes
thorn lark
because it's a two shot
torpid sundial
pa + l l l
thorn lark
how can you be as fast with a falchion?
torpid sundial
its only a two shot if you crit those attacks
tame lodge
Animation cancel
torpid sundial
same talents
idk man
also falchion's range is noticeably further than pow sword's pa
so I prefer that
tame lodge
That's not mk6
serene bough
Mk6 power sword is the one people use
tame lodge
Yes mk3 and mk6 have different push attacks
serene bough
I completely forgot the mk3 power sword existed
serene bough
I do want to try the mk2 falchion now though
torpid sundial
lemme try mk3 later in a match rn
but regardless the falchion's kill times are pretty respectable
not a h40 build anyways
torpid sundial
ok yeah the damage is insane though getting locked out of the power swings everytime you get hit by anything is plain annoying
hollow ibex
falchs fun until you lose power
toxic reef
ok that was fast
serene bough
Hope it survives the upgrade process
silver patrol
ok that was fast
would be a shame if it was nerfed in the next update
toxic reef
I realized I didn't have one on this vet, I had on my other that I had to delete for my scum
but that took a few mil at least
but it served me well for the H40 I did right after
had been ages since I did vet havoc, it was fun
midnight wyvern
vet havoc with bolter is good fun
mystic pilot
oh boy that pack master
“He is very fast for an Ogryn. Very fast and very heavy, and he will keep up with you!”
and he has a shocking prod. Oh boy I can't wait to be staggered by the hit
😛
mystic pilot
amoured pox hounds
hollow ibex
carapace pox hounds
mystic pilot
well not nerf as in the Pack Master can see your presence with his hounds
serene bough
Is it a monstrosity or an elite enemy
wary sigil
NO FUCKING WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
gritty fable
Is it a monstrosity or an elite enemy
roaming monstrosity
serene bough
Oh its roaming
toxic reef
consider it a daemonhost that you're supposed to fight
serene bough
Thats cool
unique orchid
I like it
I think the only other thing i can think to really want rn is a shielded scab or dreg, just with like a plank board on their arm or something - summin which tanks a couple melee hits
warm gulch
holy shit havoc with DB and tac axe
Db?
wary sigil
double barrel shottie
mighty python
```“He is very fast for an Ogryn. Very fast and very heavy, and he will keep up ...
Meanwhile four krak grenades in my pocket: 
pastel knoll
krak grenades my beloved
mystic pilot
And it looks like he can smack my cyber mastiff around😬
yeaaah they teased the pack master would have something up its sleeves if you were to sic your cybermastiff on it
pastel knoll
I understand sometimes running smoke nades but why would you ever use shredders
mighty python
They're good for DOT
tame lodge
I understand sometimes running smoke nades but why would you ever use shredders
It's like
12 meters of bleeding
Add 2 Shredders and Uncanny Strike into the mix
And everything dies
And the usual bomber build is 15 meters iirc
That's almost ogryn nuke (16 meters)
pastel knoll
oh sheesh
so I guess if youre running some weapons that are shit with horde clear you can just pick up shredders and be ok
tame lodge
Yeah
paper grotto
hey guys sorry for the noob question but i'm really scratching my head.. i followed two builds for veteran which i recently started playing :
- krieg hellbore guide (https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e08cee7-3443-4279-a634-e3450b786a57/the-krieg-storm-trooper)
- "squad leader" plasma gun guide (https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/veteran-squad-leader), without "focus target" cause i hate working :x
The thing is, I realized in the current event that the "meme" krieg build is actually a lot stronger than the plasma... I can One Shot reapers and bulwarks in the head with a charged shot, and just keep on hitting... whereas plasma is muc hharder to use, i get one shots too, but not always on crushers... Am I missing something ? Misusing the plasma gun ? I get that its more powerful when the charge is high but still its hard to maintain ?
Second question : i see veterans doing lots of kills with one krak, when I usually kill only one. What am i doing wrong ?
thank yoouuu
paper grotto
yes i have this one 🙂
mighty python
hey guys sorry for the noob question but i'm really scratching my head.. i follo...
For the the second one, might be the grenadier talent that gives one extra grenade and a 20% chance to throw two at once while only spending one
dry cloak
Plasma is not made for killing crushers
it should be if we go by lore
paper grotto
Plasma is not made for killing crushers
oh ok damn, can it be used to be strong ? What should I learn ?
mighty python
Or just the general aoe of the krak
dry cloak
oh ok damn, can it be used to be strong ? What should I learn ?
plasma is a bit of relic of the past imo
tame lodge
oh ok damn, can it be used to be strong ? What should I learn ?
Currently the best way of using plasma is spamming m1
dry cloak
healthpools got bigger and it lost its killing power
paper grotto
m1 / m2 ?
tame lodge
There's this slot manipulation system
Where you get the crushers to move
In a way they get too close to each other
serene bough
are you runnin krak with grenade tinkerer?
For havoc tinkerer with krak is necessary
tame lodge
So the Krak kills them
serene bough
You can forego tinkerer if youre running aurics
paper grotto
ok so spam uncharged shots, then vent a bit to keep some heat and the blessings working (rising heat / gets hot)
in the meantime my krieg guy is gonna continue to helbore those monstrosities ^^'
serene bough
ok so spam uncharged shots, then vent a bit to keep some heat and the blessings ...
If you just spam fire the gun will auto vent for2 more shots
So usually its best to just spam M1 and vent when there's downtime
thorn lark
hey guys sorry for the noob question but i'm really scratching my head.. i follo...
I don't think rending is doing a lot for your helbore. I'd put that point elsewhere like more dmg to ogryns and bosses. And grenade tinkerer on kraks is for h40 crushers bp with bring it down...
pastel knoll
playin lasgun vet for the first time and its so fun
what mark do people usually use?
thorn lark
Illas no? But people are enjoying the laspistol more
tame lodge
what mark do people usually use?
2b or 4
serene bough
I use IIb for ilas but i wouldn't bring into havoc
serene bough
I am weak
I am not capable enough to survive H40 in the current meta with an ilas
Back when havoc launched i beat h40 with the IIb because of ghost, that was nice
serene bough
I havent played darktide in a month
Im hoping this update comes out soon
I would like to play again
quasi rover
helbore dumps stability right?
pastel knoll
yurp
quasi rover
yiss...got a 60 stability from just running stuff
tame lodge
noob question but uhh, waht does this mean
It's their marks
Also sorry
7
Not 4
4 is the old name
hollow ibex
calm prairie
idk just cuz
silver patrol
to keep you on your toes
tame lodge
One of the theories say that it was to unify the models and shit
But then you have some dog ass changes so the theory loses force
Like eviscerator 2 got renamed to
Eviscerator 3
toxic reef
mk numbers is nothing compared to what the psykers had to endure
agile yew
Since they made Trauma into Voidblast, should have just kept with it and made em all Voids, like Voidzap and Voidflame or Voidpuff or whatever
distant plaza
void-puff-puff-no-pass-puff
toxic reef
void is so ass as naming tho
toxic reef
especially when using premium skins and you don't tell them apart from a glance
whole solstice
void is so ass as naming tho
shoulda called it warpblast
toxic reef
trauma was fine tho
whole solstice
realspace is a void, the immaterium is quite the opposite
toxic reef
surge is a bit eh, but surge surge is peak
whole solstice
trauma was fine tho
it was, I don't care for the weird renaming
toxic reef
new name can be shortened to EK tho which is nice
I mean a lot of ppl still call them by the old names so
mystic pilot
hey guys sorry for the noob question but i'm really scratching my head.. i follo...
its as other said. FatShark didn't give plasma a high armor piercing stat on purpose even thought it was that on tabletop/lore
tall torrent
its as other said. FatShark didn't give plasma a high armor piercing stat on pur...
(it's actually pretty high)
silver patrol
It is
It just has shit finesse
Finesse is really what makes helbore kill crushers
somber axle
It's also ammo economy. Shock Trooper with Surgical makes Helbore free to fire but Plasma will run itself dry if you're trying to shoot Crushers with it on this event
mystic pilot
yeah if I can't get close to a monstrosity, I try to aim for its head or a weak spot like the pustule on back of chaos spawn. With the plasma
pastel knoll
the sights on the MK IV helbore is so ass
is there a skin in game or mod that changes it
distant plaza
is there a skin in game or mod that changes it
iirc, the vraks skin is better than default sights
hollow ibex
is there a skin in game or mod that changes it
this helps
but using mods on irons is kinda a pain
alternatively, you can buy one of the p2w skins
like vostroyan
sick anvil
Looking for 3 zealots.
pastel knoll
zealot one channel down :]
pastel knoll
guh
pastel knoll
hot lonely zealots in your area
tame lodge
This zealot will make you pray in 30 seconds
spare cedar
is fullbore or manstopper better for the db shotgun?
tame lodge
Manstopper>>>>
spare cedar
is that just because of the bonus cleave?
tame lodge
It's infinite cleave
So yeah
hollow ibex
manstopper specifically gives infinite cleave
DB on vet is always flechette manstopper
no reason to run anything else
and flakiac
tall torrent
@hybrid plover is game netcode fked rn
I just rubberbanded 4 minutes straight in mourningstar with my friend
either both our internet providers fked up or FS servers are on crack rn
hybrid plover
<@109528432425062400> is game netcode fked rn
Had a "crash" last night during havoc but it was two of us that crashed at the same time
Not an error code
Full on game crash
And this happened to me with @sonic kayak too a while back
Also. Tried to slide towards a fodder gun last night and went down to 19 health cuz they hit me in my frames
It's not happening all the time but there's definitely an inconsistency
This game is struggling rn
languid crypt
This game is struggling rn
Ditto
tall torrent
Is the power falcon good?
no
pastel knoll
bord
fast shale
Im starting to enjoy shovel + bolt pistol and weapon spec wayyy more than Shovel + Bolter and middle keystone
tall torrent
But if I want to go bolter I HAVE to use middle keystone no?
no
but it is the best scaling keystone for boltgun
MF is too much opportunity cost
WS doesn't blend well given boltgun's slow draw
fast shale
Oh so at the end of the day, it is the best option for bolter
tall torrent
FT is also just, very good in general
frank basin
Mf no changes at all
tall torrent
FT + RF is quite a bit more dmg for ur entire team vs enemies u want dead fast
fast shale
Whats RF
fast shale
Ohhh that one node, yeah that one is neat
agile mango
what nodes are worth it with focus target?
hollow ibex
left and right nodes
agile mango
left and right nodes
do you have any advice on how I could improve my build? mostly play havoc 30+
hollow ibex
do you have any advice on how I could improve my build? mostly play havoc 30+
run weapon spec
you could drop grenadier
but overall build looks good
agile mango
~~run weapon spec~~
wait, why did you suggest weapon spec? also, without grenadier aren't you stuck with like 3 kraks?
hollow ibex
3 kraks should be adequate tbh, but taking grenadier is also fine
i was memeing but WS kinda is stronger generally
really depends on weapons tho
agile mango
i was memeing but WS kinda is stronger generally
I run mercy killer knife and plasma; is it better than focus target?
like is this the play?
hollow ibex
oh yeah def run WS with that combo
also FT knife > MK knife
MK knife isn't that good on vet
you also don't need to take any subnodes for WS on that setup, unless you want to
so the last point there is really a flex point
agile mango
also FT knife > MK knife
what do you mean FT knife or MK knife?
agile mango
so the last point there is really a flex point
what do you think i should put it in?
hollow ibex
what do you mean FT knife or MK knife?
flesh tearer > mercy killer
hollow ibex
what do you think i should put it in?
pretty subjective
really up to your playstyle
grenadier, more toughness restore, plasma reload (eh)
fast shale
Thoughts on invigorated node?
tame lodge
Don't remember it
Oh wait
Weapon Specialist node?
It's aight
Often not affordable though
fast shale
I kinda want to sacrifice something to get it more often
It feels like infinite stamina,
Can fight the horde without thinking too much about it
Hmmmm maybe sacrifice the 15% elite dmg to get it? what u think?
tame lodge
Yeah superiority complex is droppable nowadays
tall torrent
Hmmmm maybe sacrifice the 15% elite dmg to get it? what u think?
Could but wouldn’t
fickle narwhal
what laser recon do you recomend for scream vet¿ since i have a bleesing that give bonuses for head damage i was wondering if maybe the one that has tons of bullet don't have much accuracy, but maybe with the other one i will suffer on hordes
pick your poison i guess?
tall torrent
what laser recon do you recomend for scream vet¿ since i have a bleesing that gi...
vet's ability choice is not rly weapon dependent
fickle narwhal
vet's ability choice is not rly weapon dependent
i was thinking about the headhunter bleesing, would be more effective to play it with a more accuracy recon model?
tall torrent
all recon lasguns have the same finesse modifier (not that high)
I hav them listed in the pinned guide
dreamy spade
bleak adder
hope falch gets buffed this update
agile mango
pretty subjective
thx!
agile mango
what perks/blessings should I have on my knife if i use flesh tearer?
toxic reef
uncanny
tough nova
Its the extra ammo mandatory nowadays?
Weapon specific. I skip on things like DBS.
But i also am addicted to the stam regen delay so 
fast shale
But i also am addicted to the stam regen delay so <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
That one feels niceee too
I thought it was a silly extra node but its fairly noticeable
tough nova
Especially on weapons that use push attacks a lot like the knife. I can't play knife without it. Luxury node!
tall torrent
Its the extra ammo mandatory nowadays?
It’s almost always a tax node
There’re like 2 guns that actually would consider taking it by itself despite not going down further
spice osprey
what are some cool portrait frames that fit veteran
other than the ugly militarum-styled green boxy ones from hestia
amber vortex
I like that one
gilded wraith
Is DB viable with taxe? Not sure how crucial uncanny is.
void dragon
There’re like 2 guns that actually would consider taking it by itself despite no...
i assume one is the bolters, but what's the other one?