#veteran-class

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hollow ibex
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yeah tho it's always nice if your melee can deal with ragers

unreal nova
hollow ibex
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rashad and PS can stagger ragers very easily

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taxe as well

unreal nova
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So you can hit them before they can even hit you.

formal ice
unreal nova
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A melee that works with only the faster aspd on stam and hypercrit.

wild vortex
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attempting my first ever solo of any kind, wish me luck

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(and that my son doesn't wake up)

gentle dew
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havoc?

wild vortex
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and of course he wakes up the instant I hit start

wild vortex
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not near that good

gentle dew
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😄

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wishing you best of luck

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if you still get the chance

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using infiltrate build?

past plover
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quick question, which hellbore mk do i use for a DMR build?
lookign at the dmg and stuff i would pick MK IV but all guides say MKIIIa despite it having less dmg, why?

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i do asume surgical and armorbane are the pics for it

wild vortex
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ok, got 1 power cell solo at leat

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though I had bots

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progress

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it would probably be easier with Infiltrate but I wouldn't learn as much

tame lodge
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Helbore Adms are too good so armorbane is pretty much useless

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And if you just 1 shot everything, like Helbore is able to, you get no value from Armourbane

heavy rover
past plover
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what do i use instead?

tame lodge
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Surgical Weight of Fire

past plover
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i see

heavy rover
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Personally I do like running armourbane on it so I can support my team during boss fights. Brittleness and the damage bonus from marksman focus goes crazy

tame lodge
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Mk4 is the hardest hitting ranged weapon in the game

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But it's a bit slow at charging shots

past plover
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now i understand why, thanks people :3

heavy rover
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Yeah, also be aware that weight of fire is a bit anti synergy with surgical since it speeds up your rate of fire

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Which is again why I personally prefer armourbane. I find the base fire rate more than enough, plus it gives more chance for the crit to stack

past plover
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makes sense

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i will test both versions and see what i vibe best with :3

heavy rover
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Imo the second blessing is down to preference

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Yeah, go with what feels best. As long as you have surgical you're good to go

silver patrol
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to be fair

heavy rover
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True, but it's more that I don't have to fight the ammo loot goblins KEKW_ogryn

silver patrol
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no, it's literally almost impossible to go below 600 ammo in any case

heavy rover
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I've had it happen a few times

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Mostly on crazy havoc games

faint beacon
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Helbore just nukes things

tame lodge
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Yeah that's the problem with Armourbane

heavy rover
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That's me, I always pick the team support option when given the choice

tame lodge
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It's on a weapon that is too good at 1 shots

heavy rover
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gestures name

faint beacon
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Honestly I can see the argument with it on MKV

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The others? Not really no

heavy rover
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Mk V feels a lot like what a regular infantry las should feel like

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Also weight of fire on mk V is hilarious, give it a try if you haven't yet KEKW_ogryn

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It's not optimal but dear lordy does it get absurd

wild vortex
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Mk V with fully stacked Weight of Fire is basically infantry las rof

tame lodge
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Measuring weapons in iLas

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"yeah that's 10 iLas"

distant plaza
oblique totem
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What's up, rejects?

fickle narwhal
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what's the best melee weapon for hordes to use while ure using executioner with laser recon?

distant plaza
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inb4 power sword 6

fickle narwhal
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thanks!

frozen crown
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Do smokes mess with all enemies or are there some that can still track you through it?

narrow frost
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Ranged and some specials

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Check Kuli's guide on smokes

frozen crown
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👍

narrow frost
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Smoke cloud effect: 5.5m radius, lasts for 15s; disables HUD nameplates of allies; players inside smoke are considered 'concealed' which alters the line of sight distance requirement of enemies during target selection; if a player holds aggro of an enemy who is in melee combat, the smoke has no effect on enemy perception; if a player holds aggro of an enemy who is in ranged combat, then the smoke makes the ranged enemy stop firing and change positions (this includes Sniper; Reaper is less likely to reposition); Gunners and Reaper when they are inside the smoke cloud's area of effect themselves keep firing at a player's last known position; Pox Hounds cannot lock on a player who is inside smoke cloud's area of effect and will keep circling the cloud; Trapper and Flamers need to be closer to players in order to start their shooting action; no effect on Bombers, Mutants, Poxburster

last marten
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impact smoke when

turbid ibex
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impoke

tidal fox
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smoke should be a secondary grenade that vets have tbh

narrow widget
tidal fox
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Make it a little worse tho

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Or you know they can just give the improved grenades perk for free

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To vet

hybrid plover
narrow widget
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I think vet is in a fine spot rn tho ngl ngl
maybe tune up/down some weapons (esp ps6) and he's good to go

tidal fox
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Who genuinely takes smoke

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Ive never seen anyone take smoke

narrow widget
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havoc players

tidal fox
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🪳

hybrid plover
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I take smoke when I wanna be lazy and use plasma

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Exe stance go brrrr

slow sky
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I watched someone be insulted for running smokes instead of kraks last night

hybrid plover
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Was it that streamer

slow sky
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Armor, forever the issue

hybrid plover
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Just hit the armor

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It's not that hard

hollow ibex
slow sky
sly orchid
hybrid plover
wild vortex
orchid hemlock
merry idol
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hey. Im fresh off the training lines of Kreig, looking for some more corpsmen to join, in a veteran class squad in a mission or two if anyone's down?

amber vortex
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.....did you just say Krieg?

steep flower
distant plaza
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how about clubbing crushers to death with a profane heavy sword?

gilded raft
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I just kite them in circles on my zealot and yell "for the emperor" and related preachings a lot until they die of nuisance

drowsy perch
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ykno i had to make a shotgun specific class but with agrinappa or whatever its pretty damn good

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got the biggest mag i could so 17 shots that can do like 1.2k-4k

quasi rover
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whats the meta these days? i havent played in forever and just stole the squad leader off of darktide.gameslantern.

austere mica
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Guide in pins has recommendations

crimson mica
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what ranged goes good with weapon specialist?

austere mica
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A lot of them

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The ones that shine brightest are Double Barrel, Revolver, and Bolt Pistol

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But any single shot breakpoint or low mag weapon does well

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I run agri combat shotgun with weapon spec and it does great

crimson mica
quasi rover
pastel knoll
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could anyone share a giga havoc 40 vet build please?

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also, is there any really good builds using any shotguns or are people mostly using plasma gun

hollow ibex
hollow ibex
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you just need a WS build, like in the pins

pastel knoll
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ty ty

orchid hemlock
drowsy perch
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what cosmetic set is just power armor

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this is a pack for one anyways

strong jacinth
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anyone got a helbore lasgun build i can steal?

turbid ibex
strong jacinth
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?

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oh nvm found it

tame lodge
strong jacinth
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does it not matter which hellbore
mrk i use?

tame lodge
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Not really

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V is highest dps

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IV is the hardest hitting ranged weapon in the game

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III is pretty solid middleman

drowsy perch
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also diff special action (which is melee)

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the strongest one is more of a delayed swing while the other 2 are stabby stabs

strong jacinth
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IIIa feels nnice tbh, IV is too slow and V is just a little under for damage I want

drowsy perch
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you can get pretty fast if you build the blessings

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er

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pick the blesssings

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theres one that lowers charge time on chained charge shots

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if u dont wanna run that tho yea

desert viper
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surgical chain of fire my beloved

strong jacinth
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testin right now and man

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if i was better

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aiming for heads feels so weird

slender elm
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Recommend las pistol build for practice lel

drowsy perch
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its shape/sight is just very weird

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like i can chain headshots like a madman with revolver

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but helbore? shits hard to aim

slender elm
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The sights are crap, mod it

wild vortex
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Weapon Customization mod is probably the single buggiest mod to ever be uploaded to Nexusmods

hollow ibex
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🙂‍↕️

drowsy perch
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hmm

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should i crit build with agrinapa shotgun?

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it does crit weakspot really well but

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im running it as an allrounder build which seems pretty damn good

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suppose crit is only really good against like bosses

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it can handle everything else without much issue

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even then its pretty good boss daamge

hollow ibex
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if you're using it primarily as a sideram, prob not worth it

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but if you're using it as your main gun, then yeah it's worth

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crit's very important on agri

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because most of agri's damage comes from finesse

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and crit allows manstopper to do silly thinsg

severe hedge
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ya i'm not super experienced at this game yet but my experience in vt2 was that crit was quite good on anything with a high attack speed

hollow ibex
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zarona but you can do the same thing with agri

dry cloak
drowsy perch
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was just trying to see what worked

hollow ibex
hollow ibex
drowsy perch
# hollow ibex

also why does like every build on gmeslantern have the +stamina curios

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i feel like theyre doodoo

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compared to getting a good bit more toughness/hp

formal ice
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Stamina is used

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When running

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Getting away from stuff

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And blocking

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Being though isn't enough, you also need to run away or catch up with your teammates

unreal nova
pseudo fiber
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Alert good power sword skin is in the shop

formal ice
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I am totally not buying it but it's cool that they have put this special armor on sale again

trail ore
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actual ork weapon

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just 3 RPG-7s taped together

slender elm
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you know what i prefer as an ork weapon

fickle narwhal
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Is there any good build for havoc with the typical laser infantry laser( the tipical one of the astra militarum miniatures)

slender elm
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Recommend laser pistol instead

plain osprey
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Anyone have a good vigilant autogun build for vet?

steep flower
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When you know how 2 micromanage it

bleak kettle
plain osprey
bleak kettle
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as for melee pick something to deal with armor/carapace enemies

plain osprey
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Tac or Dsword probably

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Hmmm

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No field impov

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I usually dont play without it

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To support my nade ogryns

bleak kettle
plain osprey
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#feedyourlocalgrenadeoggy loregryn

plain osprey
bleak kettle
plain osprey
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Hmm. I usually run it as courtesy to the random zealot/ogryn/hiver on my team that cant regen their nades. Since i usually only play auric/mael.

bleak kettle
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dueling sword unyielding/carapace with uncanny/riposte

plain osprey
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Also good shredder nade synergy

bleak kettle
stiff glacier
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so new event dropped out of the blue

plain osprey
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T'day?

stiff glacier
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and its more ogryns

plain osprey
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I havent played anything today yet

bleak kettle
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nvm found it

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plain osprey
stiff glacier
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its gonna be plasma week huh

bleak kettle
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i've been playing the invis bomber veteran its fun

stiff glacier
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this was that hidden 6 gb patch

bleak kettle
stiff glacier
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pox burster congatrains and crushers and bulwarks blocking the line

somber axle
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it's really really fun LMFAO

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endless crushers, bulwarks and reapers who also drop grenades and explode when you kill them

plain osprey
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BEWARE OF LEDGES

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Clandestium will probably be hilarious

tame lodge
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Just like last time

somber axle
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I've been running an Exe Stance/Marksman's Focus tree using Helbore Mk IV and having a blast

plain osprey
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Imma try the vigilant autogun exe stance build someone shot me above later

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I hope the carapace pen is ok

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PLINK (blue indicator) KEKW_ogryn

agile yew
# plain osprey No field impov

At this point i feel like they should make it node you cant go around as always feels "selfish" if its not there as impact is huge.

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Atleast in havocs, curing that chaos and huge force multiplier for all the classes with good nades

slender elm
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fucking hell

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ran into a game and im getting damaged by teammate kraks

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high intensity too

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so there was a gazillion bulwarks

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and i have 0 toughness because kraks somehow hit me

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???

tame lodge
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Most likely event grenades dropped by the Ogryns

somber axle
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no no you can't be hurt by team mate grenades

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all the Ogryns have a chance to drop grenades on death

slender elm
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event grenades?

tame lodge
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Yes there's an event going on

somber axle
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it's the fun new event yeah

slender elm
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fuck

tame lodge
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It's brutes (Ogryn spam) + explosives

slender elm
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how did i miss the notification

tame lodge
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That's because

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There's none

slender elm
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actually there's none

tame lodge
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💀

slender elm
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fucking fatshark does it again

tame lodge
slender elm
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that's actually disgusting

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how many classes can deal with nothing but bulwarks...

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i only have 1 that can

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and 3 if i bring crusher i guess

somber axle
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I've had Psykers and Ogryns deal with it fine in my matches

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also Hive Scum spamming rocket launchers to wipe packs

stiff glacier
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hivescums seem good dealing with them

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indeed

slender elm
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yeah im playing vet so fuck me i guess

somber axle
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I just use lots of Krak and Helbore Mk IV

slender elm
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also it was high intensity so fuck my entire squad in general

tame lodge
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Dude you're playing vet

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Bulwarks shouldn't be a problem

slender elm
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genuinely not enough grenades

tame lodge
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That being said

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I have yet to play the event

desert viper
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THERE AR SO

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MANY

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BULWARKS EVERYWHERE

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OH M YGOD

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😭

slender elm
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oh hey, a fellow traumatized player

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and then i get a player like this

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also the ogryn player is spamming lights? on not branx

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hmm

tame lodge
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Which ogryn says toady

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Heavy?

slender elm
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heavy yeah

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as in heavy cockney accent lel

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sigh

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maybe i need to stop playing like a brain damaged idiot

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but im a tired salaryman

desert viper
slender elm
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well... this is on damnation

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i expect it to get much worse on auric

plain osprey
slender elm
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ah well

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this mode is unfun

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have to deal with bulwark phalanxes and conga line of bursters at the same time

agile yew
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Whats the rewards?

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Amazing they manage to sneak in events without zero notification of it

hearty snow
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are they just spamming EVERY KIND OF OGRYN

slender elm
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that it is

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ogryns that drop grenades on death because lol?

sudden cedar
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The Event is amazing, thank you very much.

slender elm
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No it isnt

icy moat
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Do you get nades back on elite kill?

slender elm
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Yes

icy moat
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Insane

slender elm
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There isn't enough nades

icy moat
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I expect to see a limitless barrage of ogryn nukes and hivescum rockets

slender elm
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Wait I thought you were talking about the talent

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It didn't say that you get grenades back in the event

icy moat
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Oh yeah, the event I mean

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If you do that seems kinda easy to do, no?

slender elm
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I might have been blind

icy moat
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You throw a krak into a group of crushers and get one back guaranteed

slender elm
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But im always running the talent so I didn't notice

icy moat
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Oooh i see

slender elm
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If it is what you say, then its a good time for me to do ogryn frag bomb penance

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But otherwise, fuck this event

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Grenade spam is meh

icy moat
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You get an almost unlimited supply of nukes as long as you manage to kill an elite

fickle narwhal
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can someone suggest me a melee weapon for laser recon executioner stance build

distant plaza
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how about the humble shovel or tacaxe?

hollow ibex
past plover
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i am to dumb for helbore ...

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i can't seem to hit shit with it

atomic onyx
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Can someone more experienced tell me why aren't chainweapons more popular? I see many melee weapons in rotation on vet, knives, shovels, obviously power swords, but barely any chain swords/axes

hollow ibex
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mostly because latching mechanics are really annoying

atomic onyx
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The activated ability thingy?

turbid ibex
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Plus chainsword is turbo dogshit vs carapace so that doesnt gelp it

serene bough
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Anybody have theories on when we'll see the next update

turbid ibex
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Tomorrow

tame lodge
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When the event ends

turbid ibex
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What even is the event

tame lodge
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More ogryns

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Ogryn goes kaboom on death

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You get grenade on elite kill

turbid ibex
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Does it also count for grenade kills

tame lodge
tall torrent
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I updated some weapons sections’ format drastically

turbid ibex
hollow ibex
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new event

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i sleep

tall torrent
hollow ibex
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lol yeah i saw

tame lodge
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I'm so sorry for you

hollow ibex
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not as sorry as the SM2 bolters

gilded wraith
tame lodge
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It will btw

arctic bison
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can anyone tell me why i have 4 dodges with a relic blade on zealot?

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is there a talent that gives you an extra didge?

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dodge*

tall torrent
arctic bison
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its not on the blade itself its on my nnUMERIC ui COUNTER

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but i get 4 full size dodges before my guy starts to slow down

tall torrent
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Oh that counter has not been updated

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Relic blade has 3 dodges

arctic bison
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so why am i getting 4 full size sprint dodges with it then??

tall torrent
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The mod counter displays +1 for some weapons

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Afaik the new value shown by the game is the accurate one (despite them not changing the number of effective dodges)

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It’s weird

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I asked about it when they released the in game dodge bar function

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wild vortex
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man how does Vet always get the best drip

tame lodge
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It comes with the cost of clipping

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So it's a fair trade

gentle dew
hollow junco
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Whats the secret behind power sword?

tall torrent
hollow junco
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I kinda struggle with it when trying to use its special

tall torrent
heavy rover
sudden glen
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Hey, how should I be using Infiltrate?

So far it seems like a “Pick Up Captured Teammates” ability or an opportunity to run past the horde and stab someone troublesome in the back—but I find that often leaves me too far out ahead or vulnerable when I come out of stealth.

Is it more meant to reposition? But then what good is that, if the horde’ll just swarm you in your new spot once you come out again?

bleak kettle
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you can use it to do objectives revive or pick up dead teammates with bomber build makes your nades much better

sudden glen
hollow axle
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How to play correctly with plasma gun ?

bleak kettle
tame lodge
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Press M1 at head level

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Preferably against human sized elites and specialist

tidal fox
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is there some kind of shout bug

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where u gotta press it twice to work

lean rune
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is the plasma gun that good?

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im aware its the current meta or something

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but my current choice is the vigilant autogun (maybe i would switch to a bolt pistol or whatever its called in future), since it can quickly fire on targets and one/twoshots most of the ranged,flamers, grenadiers

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i find it annoying that i cant quickly eliminate a flamer or something if its at a medium distance

hollow ibex
mystic pilot
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oh boy boy! IMPERIAL NAVY COSTUMES!

fathom edge
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what level can you get the plasma gun?

tame lodge
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16

fathom edge
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ty

bleak kettle
warm gulch
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:()

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Double dareel

hybrid pulsar
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What do you guys think of the double barrel shotgun?

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Good bad or meh?

hollow ibex
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And also very strong overall

hybrid pulsar
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Why doesn’t my double barrel do that?

tame lodge
hybrid pulsar
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When I use it . Shit can’t hit anything further than 3 metres

tame lodge
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Verily so

hollow ibex
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Weapon specialist

hybrid pulsar
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Yeah I know

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Even with

hollow ibex
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Manstopper and Flechette

hybrid pulsar
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Iv tried it and it feels like I can’t kill stuff from range

hollow ibex
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And then you store WS stacks for far away specialists

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It takes a single pellet for a crit DB shot to kill a sniper from any range

hybrid pulsar
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Damn

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Alr

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I mostly used them close by to get rid of the bulwarks or gunnerns

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I mostly used smoke grenade to deal with snipers

hollow ibex
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WS DB should be constantly firing

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Use it for horde clear, specialists, soften up elites

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3 melee kills > fire gun > 3 melee kills

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It’s super powerful

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And very simple loop

eternal venture
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I wonder how many vets only play Dueling Sword and think the horde clear in this game is ass

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Because man DS hordeclear feels like ass after coming from other vet melees

hollow ibex
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Mr E told me that DS is vets strongest melee!

eternal venture
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Every time I use DS, I play it for like one game and then go back to DC4

eternal venture
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🤢

hollow ibex
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DS is dumb tbf but it’s not particularly strong on vet

eternal venture
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It's just a safe and easy option

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Wait until these kids learn about PS...

hollow ibex
eternal venture
bleak kettle
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i don't like how PS feels still better than shock maul worst melee i tried on vet by far

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i like PF tactical axe shovel DS

hybrid plover
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Is this like

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A vibe thing?

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Cuz I can definitely see someone not liking it for that reason

bleak kettle
hybrid plover
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The way that sentence is worded is throwing me off a lil

calm prairie
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abandonment of punctuation in texting and its consequences

orchid hemlock
calm prairie
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chills

orchid hemlock
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I'm a Hegelian

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I'm the master of runoff sentences

distant plaza
orchid hemlock
distant plaza
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zizek is more tolerable

orchid hemlock
gilded wraith
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Thoughts on Recon 6c with Infernus in a WS build? Does it get enough RoF to be viable?

slender elm
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WS with recon definitely kinda meh

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Take FT and hose targets instead

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Brittle also boosts burn damage vs tough targets

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and you get less weird stares when you shoot a crusher with your lightshow flashlight

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Oh nvm I was wrong, ft doesn't give brittle its a damage boost

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my previous points still apply

fickle narwhal
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what's the most op build for vet on havoc?

tame lodge
fickle narwhal
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lol what the hell is even that

errant bear
slender elm
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sigh

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at least im getting notches on my frag bomb penance

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i definitely hate how vague the event description is

agile mortar
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what's Tactical Axe actually good at?

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serious question I wanna know how to use it right

slender elm
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It fast and kills everything decently well

agile mortar
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so just general purpose? Nice
any good guns to go with it?

slender elm
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Whatever gun you feel like really

agile mortar
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combat shotty?

slender elm
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Yes

tame lodge
agile mortar
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BTW, what combat shotty mark is best? Oh also what's the difference between the 3 axe variants

slender elm
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look at pinned guide

tough nova
brave acorn
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He’s talking about tac axe

thorn lark
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Antax trades finesse for cleave

tough nova
brave acorn
toxic reef
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shredders went p hard, despite the armor spam

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good ogryns too spamming booms

plush current
toxic reef
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whole squad of krakers, still mogged by shredders

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languid crypt
tall torrent
toxic reef
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more with bistol and lethal proximity

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it spreads through a whole pack

tall torrent
tame lodge
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Krak is fuck that guy

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Frag is fuck everyone in 10 meters

toxic reef
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yeah but there is a lot of armor

tame lodge
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Good

toxic reef
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I did a later with a kraker and they outdamaged me

tame lodge
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More targets

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You can also like

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Uncanny Strike

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Totally fair and balanced interaction

toxic reef
#

ye I used to run knife on this

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but power sword just helps with more

tall torrent
toxic reef
#

it was also archivum so stuff grouped up harder

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but this one it was all me doing the grenade spam

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tall torrent
#

I think frag is still usually better if u can afford 1 flex point into grenade

toxic reef
#

yeah prob, this is just my fuck it shredder build

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infiltrator underhanded throws for the dmg boost is nice as well

tall torrent
#

Tinkerer is only for crusher 1 tap in h40

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And a bit better boss damage

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But usually u want to save it for ogryn groups

toxic reef
#

ye im aware

tall torrent
#

Frag with grenadier is more flexible

toxic reef
#

I have other krak builds

tall torrent
#

U can throw it to break gunner formations and blast mauler/rager mixed horde

toxic reef
#

like db shovel one

tall torrent
#

And still for stagger ogryn

tranquil quartz
#

Is 79% shredder 61% mobility good enough for the chainsword ?

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I'm gonna go insane if I have to gamble more money at Brunt's

tall torrent
gentle dew
#

/s of course 😛

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not worth spending more of your hard earned coins

gentle dew
#

the power falchion sucks they said

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tall torrent
gentle dew
#

xd

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probably yes

tame lodge
#

Only 800k

thorn lark
narrow frost
gentle dew
#

Power falchion is the meta i understand the first stage is denial

tame lodge
#

Dude

gentle dew
#

🤡

tame lodge
#

No dawg you can't be saying that

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It's okay to like Falchion

gentle dew
#

im not allowed to? on whose authority

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i mean i wasnt serious ofc about meta it was more a joke

tame lodge
#

You just can't say it's meta

gentle dew
#

definitely isnt 'meta' no 😛

#

but not USELESS

hybrid plover
#

Falchion is

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Okay ™

gentle dew
#

Okay+™

hybrid plover
#

One day it will actually be able to reliably stagger a rager

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One day...

gentle dew
#

🙏

tall torrent
hybrid plover
#

High key. That alone would make it so much better.

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Let alone it being complete ass while unpowered 😔

tame lodge
#

(I got none)

gentle dew
#

yet i feel i must comply

slow sky
#

The correct delusion is shovel is meta

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Because its true

thorn lark
#

Did you send my picture to Khan @slow sky?

slow sky
thorn lark
#

Cool cool cool

pseudo fiber
tame lodge
#

Nah that's weak delusion

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Chainaxe Mk4 being meta is the real one

tall torrent
tame lodge
#

I still don't believe you
(I say with no testing done about the buffed mk12 lights on my part)

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I also made that meme on my phone

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I fucking hate the font ngl

tall torrent
tame lodge
#

I still don't believe you chadgryn

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Maybe later
I still have to play this event

tall torrent
tame lodge
#

Not possible
Because I'm never wrong

tall torrent
tame lodge
#

Fym far too often

tall torrent
#

literal

tame lodge
#

Nuh uh

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I don't believe you

tall torrent
tall torrent
tame lodge
#

💀

tame lodge
tall torrent
#

I'm trying to figure out why the wireless connect mode on my mouse sometimes has weird lag

tame lodge
#

You should buy mewgenics

#

I say as I haven't bought yet

tall torrent
tame lodge
#

Thought you liked cats

tall torrent
thorn lark
tame lodge
#

I really thought they were going to discuss pbb

#

It's just that

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Gunlugger is kinda eh

#

#buffGunlugger

tall torrent
#

I might be genuinely dumb
I never realized that my wireless mouse came with an adapter that could plug into the wired connection (charging) cable

#

no wonder the wireless connection felt wonky with stutters

tame lodge
#

Eh it happens

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I recently cleaned my PC

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Didn't connect the Ethernet cable well

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And played on wifi only for like 5 days

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Before realizing

fickle narwhal
#

Anyone using this build can tell me where to put that last skill point

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Or suggest me please

tall torrent
flint iris
#

you know what

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Infantary lasgun you're alright

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i dont hate you

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maybe its just the way the wind is blowing or the lack of fulfilling updates

orchid hemlock
orchid hemlock
fickle narwhal
#

Sitgryn but can’t play it propertly on havoc

orchid hemlock
#

laceratew

orchid hemlock
lean rune
#

how are people killing with the double barrel shotgun at range? i have seen some clips where people kill like one gorillion things at once and its at a decent range too

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i tried in the meat grinder and i cant really get it to kill a rager if i dont put the barrel in its mouth

tame lodge
#

Manstopper Flechette

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Also cutthroat still funny guy

thorn lark
fickle narwhal
hollow ibex
#

you melee hordes

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esp on a recon build

tall torrent
thorn lark
#

Hmm the only problem I have with mine is when I put it on the back. On the front it works flawlessly without any cable.

orchid hemlock
wild vortex
hollow ibex
#

vet players thinking they're hive scum 😮‍💨

wild vortex
mental barn
#

If there was any class that should be able to just shoot everything provided it invested the points, it should be exe strance vet.

hollow ibex
#

well no

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because vet isn't a DLC class

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🙂‍↕️

mental barn
#

DLC ammo perk for vet when

hollow ibex
#

and tbf

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you kinda can shoot everything with vet already

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but it requires using helbore

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or running really inefficient meme recon las builds

mental barn
#

I tried Hellbore and I am not that convinced about its horde killing ability

#

but maybe I am just bad

tall torrent
tall torrent
mental barn
#

well yes, so it cannot be used as a shoot only gun

tall torrent
#

vet hasn't been the ranged class for over 2 years now

#

the actual ranged class is psyker

mental barn
#

shoot only is not shoot only if it cannot deal with horde...

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i guess maybe if the rest of the party is there to babysit it and deal with horde instead of it

hollow ibex
#

but you could literally shoot all game

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so long as you stay out of reach of hordes

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and the team can handle

#

it's doable sometimes even with pubbies

tame lodge
#

Yeah

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I usually run iLas

#

And I get to shoot a lot

wild vortex
tall torrent
hollow ibex
#

oddly enough

#

the class closest to psyker

#

is also very strong

keen ruin
#

Psyker BB is the ultimate ranged weapon

lunar maple
#

This just in

#

Using grenades is good

#

Stay strong soldiers

orchid hemlock
mental barn
#

🙁

orchid hemlock
#

Vet ironically has better melee stats with the talents than Zealot 💀

wary sigil
#

Power sword fucking melts holy shit

#

I used to unironically hate it because it was "meta" but holy shit I was missing out

#

3 shots crushers on havoc 40 with my build

hollow ibex
orchid hemlock
#

Why don't Zealot's get PS

#

Do they think they are too stupid to use it?

serene bough
#

They are

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🙂

orchid hemlock
tame lodge
tidal fox
#

all my homies hate PS

hollow ibex
#

your loss tbh

slow spade
#

Yeah PS is bad and they should buff it 😎

distant plaza
#

PS mobility is godsfucking awful and the whole weapon should be deleted KEKW_ogryn

hollow ibex
#

noobs often crutch too hard on high mobility weapons

#

STARES AT DUELING SWORD

slow spade
#

the funny moment when PS is a high skill ceiling weapon apparently

#

"just block and push occasionally"

hollow ibex
#

it unironically is

slow spade
#

that's the trick

hollow ibex
#

people hate it because it requires work

#

and knowledge of melee basics

distant plaza
slow spade
#

in comparison to the other Darktide weapons, it is indeed a high skill ceiling weapon lol

#

fucking shivs

hollow ibex
slow spade
distant plaza
slow spade
#

meanwhile fucking Hive Scum gets built-in 0.5 stam delay and something stupid like 500 stam regen

#

I want a rocket launcher vet

blazing jetty
distant plaza
wild vortex
tidal fox
hollow ibex
tidal fox
#

the humble dueling sword:

#

sabre

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or sword

#

what is it

#

whatever

hollow ibex
#

lower if playing in pubs

tidal fox
#

if it can take down carapace easy and give me mobility I'm aight

#

ps feels like a stick up my ass

hollow ibex
#

just gotta git gud at it

#

it's the strongest melee weapon in the game

tidal fox
#

although if there was a mod to like

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make it active the special so I dont have to constantly keep track

hollow ibex
#

but unlike the DS you need to actually put in effort

tidal fox
#

would be bearable

hollow ibex
#

can you count to 3?

tidal fox
#

sometimes it's hard to tell if the swing actually hit something and counted towards the powercycler

hollow ibex
#

you know because it fucking died

tidal fox
#

what?

hollow ibex
#

and if it's not powered on, you don't do shit

tidal fox
#

if I can hear the audio cue of it slashing shit

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hard to tell

#

having to constantly track that makes it so tedious just pass me the uncanny strike bro

hollow ibex
#

it's very fucking obvious

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i've been on this discord for years

#

and you're the first person i've heard complain they can't tell if the PS is activated lol

#

if you can't tell from the cues

tidal fox
#

I can tell it's activated

hollow ibex
#

the fact that everything in front of you is dead should be a pretty obvious sign

#

that it's working

tidal fox
#

just not when all 3 swings are going through so I can cycle the special efficiently

#

although this doesnt happen commonly tho so it's not that big of a deal

#

being slow in pubs is just a death sentence

hollow ibex
#

practice in the psyk with creature spawner if you're on PC

wild vortex
#

do weapons have varying push profiles (outside of shield-bearing weapons)?

hollow ibex
#

i don't think it has a special push

#

should just be a normal push

wild vortex
#

hmm

silver patrol
#

seems like a normal push to me

hollow ibex
#

Power sword would be op if it got better pushes

#

Oh wait is already op KEKW_ogryn

tall torrent
dry cloak
agile mortar
tepid otter
fringe junco
#

Hi Question: I would like to do havoc 40 eventually (im level 3 lol) I want to use revolver for sure, but what is the best melee to acompany it for all the hardest content in the game? so i know what to start leveling, thank you!

tall torrent
toxic reef
#

revolver doesn't really scale well to havoc

fringe junco
tall torrent
#

It’s actually insane breakpoints

toxic reef
#

well it isn't popular at least

tall torrent
#

The avg havoc player when asked to use anything other than duelling sword

toxic reef
#

and it's an invite metagame

bronze sedge
#

Is the plasma gun not great atm or am I just bad at it from taking a hiatus?

tall torrent
bronze sedge
toxic reef
#

dont charge

#

ever

bronze sedge
#

ah

tall torrent
bronze sedge
#

I feel like the bolter is better in most ways though, other than maybe ammo use.

tall torrent
#

It’s just a reference

bronze sedge
#

Like a bolter can take down a large enemy like an ogryn way quicker, and deal with hordes way better.

tall torrent
bronze sedge
#

I always find it struggles with accuracy against specialists though

tall torrent
#

It has no accuracy problems

#

Plasma is pinpoint accurate

toxic reef
#

ye it's the closest to a beam sniper we have

bronze sedge
#

really?

toxic reef
#

we just don't have scopes so

#

bolters are usually more popular on something like zealot or arby

#

for mag dumping or occasional sniping

dry cloak
#

bolter is a good sniper

#

mk2b

toxic reef
#

WS plasma is also a p good way to hardly have to reload during a game

bronze sedge
#

yeah I use WS with plasma, mostly for the melee benefits with it

toxic reef
#

I haven't done vet havoc since before the class reworks tho

bronze sedge
#

I see

toxic reef
#

not that I would change much bar using kraks

bronze sedge
#

idk i'm testing the plasma gun in the psycarium atm and even for dealing with ogryns, which i feel the plasma is most suited for, the bolter just generally feels much better

#

higher RoF, high DPS, and the reloading isn't an issue compared to the plasmagun when you have to wait for the plasmagun to cool down

toxic reef
#

you know you can manually cool down plasma by using special right?

#

doesn't need reloading

bronze sedge
#

yes but that also takes a while

tall torrent
bronze sedge
tall torrent
toxic reef
#

I also don't really magdump with plasma a lot

bronze sedge
tall torrent
tall torrent
toxic reef
#

especially on vet with krak

bronze sedge
tall torrent
bronze sedge
#

from 100% it takes about 3 seconds to reach 0%. Bolter takes 2 seconds to reload

toxic reef
#

mag dumping is more of a zealot thing imo

tall torrent
toxic reef
#

why would you go down to 0

#

you want to stay at high heat if possible

tall torrent
toxic reef
#

that's all the best blessings at

dry cloak
#

helbore can in general afford to shoot crushers with reasonable dps across all marks

bronze sedge
#

but I missed that the plasma gun does more damage at higher heat

dry cloak
#

assuming you are using shocktrooper with it

toxic reef
#

yeah on my full marksman builds I shoot everything with helbore

#

I even dump ammo

tall torrent
toxic reef
#

heat maxxing is like peril maxxing on psyker

#

it's why warp ghost is so good

tall torrent
#

It’s a weapon you’re supposed to not shoot as much (and melee more) with

bronze sedge
toxic reef
#

power sword

tall torrent
toxic reef
#

they're a v good WS pair

silver patrol
#

Bolter has just a slow draw speed and worse ammo economy

bronze sedge
bronze sedge
silver patrol
#

slowest drawing speed is really what kills it imo

bronze sedge
#

wish the bolt pistol had less of an issue with draw speed

silver patrol
#

it doesn't

slow spade
#

Na it does have a problem and they should make it even faster also randomly buff its damage like 20% thumbsup_ogryn

silver patrol
#

and maybe fix that recoil

#

i really can't believe they don't know how to fix the recoil of a weapon?

slow spade
#

Been using a mod that helps fix the recoil "snap" on the boltguns

#

Makes them feel a lot more natural

toxic reef
#

zealot stays winning with throwing knife synergy

molten igloo
#

finally 500

image.png
#

i'm now ready for Uprising

twilit torrent
#

I know Vet is printing nades for himself, but is there any talent that broadens this to the team? I am playint the current event on HS and keep getting a single nade added to my inventory every now and then (which feels like it only happens whenever I have a Vet in my team)

silver patrol
#

no

#

except the talent that enhances the ammo kit

#

you are playing the new event which does that

twilit torrent
#

I was wondering if you had a modifier there that does this

#

Is this listed anywhere or am I blind?

silver patrol
#

it's not listed anywhere except maybe hinted at in the event's announcement

toxic reef
#

that's FS events in a nutshell

#

does things without telling you

#

tho I think there's an icon in the buff bar about grenades

twilit torrent
#

Thanks fam, in this case I will keep going and kill 8 Crusher/min with boom bringer

hollow junco
#

Whats the good melee to pair with plasma pistol?

amber vortex
#

Whatever melee you find fun and enjoy using

#

Alternatively, I dunno, dueling sword

#

Knife

#

That's the meta, right?

tall torrent
#

there's also no plasma pistol in the game so ig ur talking abt plasma gun

somber axle
fickle narwhal
#

i want to play some default laser gun and not sure what build choose to play havoc

silver patrol
#

not sure anybody would recommend the infantry lasgun for havoc

fickle narwhal
#

Sitgryn ouch

#

i've seen people playing that laser bayonette on havoc and seems like way worse gun for me, so maybe there is someone who is actually playing havoc with this infantry laser

silver patrol
#

it's literally better than the infantry las gun in basically every way

#

except draw speed

fickle narwhal
#

yeah that draw speed it's really bad, considering how fast weapon swap should be

tall torrent
fickle narwhal
steel veldt
#

Why do you want to use it?

fickle narwhal
#

I really like how it looks plus i like the laser guns but probably recon lassgun is much better

calm shard
wary sigil
#

i've beaten h40 with lasgun

#

you just have to play in a specific way

#

it fucks so harrrrdd

calm shard
#

it's

#

a laspistol with directly worse stats

#

there is nothing it does that laspistol does not do better

#

it's not an unusable weapon by any stretch of the imagination it just is literally directly outclassed

hearty panther
#

Maniac damage

somber axle
#

Isn't laspistol less ammo per clip, less reserve ammo and less damage per shot vs the ilas or am I missing something

silver patrol
#

the laspistol has better finesse

#

so it does actually do more damage

#

also much higher firerate

#

you basically end up taking the no ammo cost on crit anyway so the ammo doesn't really matter

somber axle
#

I think iLas has reverse damage falloff and pistol has normal damage falloff for damage close vs far right

silver patrol
#

yeah, that's another reason why the laspistol is better

#

oh it also has less recoil

#

but then, every las weapon has less recoil

somber axle
#

Was staring at the damage values/ammo counts on the pinned guide for the Mk II pistol vs Mk IIa iLas and felt that pistols performed better in my matches but the numbers were looking weird

#

I only really like using the IIa for iLas for the instant sprint to fire and fast fire rate

#

It sorta plays like a laspistol anyway

#

Mk II pistol finesse value is 2.075 vs Mk IIa iLas finesse at 2 but it's the reverse damage falloff that makes the iLas feel worse when you need it to perform

#

Plus blessing of iLas Headhunter helping feed it crits vs the guide recommending dum dum + ghost or infernus for pistol but pistol has +15% crit chance vs iLas at +5% so

serene bough
#

Id prefer they make the ilas IIb a burst fire to make it more functionally distinct

faint beacon
tropic halo
void dragon
#

did they messed up some of the audio ques for fodder enemies attacking you from behind? im getting those hitting me when i get 0 warning

umbral scaffold
#

Has been like that for a while, from what I noticed

thorn lark
#

@tall torrent there's a bp with longshot on plasma?

tall torrent
charred halo
#

what guns are fun with exe stance

#

recon las getting a lil boring

silver patrol
#

no gun in particular

#

any gun that isn't a pain to use because it has a small magazine

#

or painful reload times

charred halo
silver patrol
#

basically

#

it's just a time limited power multiplier for any gun

gentle lake
#

Is

#

Exec stance heavy las pis a good idea

silver patrol
#

i don't see why not

tall torrent
toxic reef
#

"time limited"

silver patrol
#

time sensitive

toxic reef
#

I more so meant that you can extend it a lot with the right gun

silver patrol
#

yeah and i meant that for that reason, you kinda want to avoid guns which can go offline for extended period of time

toxic reef
#

to the point of having the whole ability come off cooldown

hybrid plover
fair shale
#

Plasma can be funny for wall bangs

narrow frost
#

infantry las is fun with stance

#

gets some decent 1 taps in H40

fluid tulip
hollow ibex
#

ES shistol would go so hard

silver patrol
#

shitstol

fluid tulip
#

that shit is trash

#

unless you playing damnation

hollow ibex
fluid tulip
# hollow ibex build issue

you/someone being able to use it well is different from the gun statistically being shit in more cases then not

hollow ibex
fluid tulip
#

but you right i’m not making no build on that carry class

silver patrol
#

i mean it's not that bad

hollow ibex
#

but it's quite obviously not trash

#

it's the only ranged weapon that can let you block sniper shots

fluid tulip
#

🤦🏾

#

do you slide

hollow ibex
#

no

#

never

#

because i'm not a pussy

silver patrol
#

can't always slide tho

#

or dodge sometimes

hollow ibex
#

yeah shield's just very good utility

#

and the firepower isn't half bad

fluid tulip
#

it blocks one sniper shot god forbid it breaks the block

#

why not use shield maul

hollow ibex
#

the #1 mistake that people make when building shistol

#

is building it as a revolver

silver patrol
#

i don't think it does

#

break the block i mean

hollow ibex
#

it doesn't yeah

silver patrol
#

it's like what

#

25% of your stamina?

hollow ibex
#

shistol with manstopper + scattershot goes fucking hard

#

and anyone who claims shistol is trash

#

hasn't built their shistol correctly

fluid tulip
#

it doesn’t break it if your don’t have full stamina?

hollow ibex
#

or plays heresy and below where manstopper is bad

fluid tulip
#

that shit gotta be new because i’ve been facefucked by a sniper using that thing

#

many times

#

aiming

hollow ibex
#

sounds like a you problem tbh

silver patrol
#

i don't think sniper shots really drain that much of your stamina

hollow ibex
#

shield works just fine for me

fluid tulip
#

i’m saying in the heat of moment you get hit by it there’s a good chance it could cost you because oh idk, not everyone is a shot pistol god and knows how to micro manage