veteran-class

[hollow ibex]

purely as a buff stick

not as an actual gun

[neon karma]

Sad times

[south spindle]

Can confirm, one shot basically everything short of Crusher

[neon karma]

how hard is it to get stacks with it?

[hollow ibex]

very easy now

the main issue with MMF bolter is the pathing

but the keystone itself is good

[charred finch]

idk it's just about as ass as any other build on vet

[warm gulch]

I need some slight build advice when it comes to curios

[formal hamlet]

Last teammate went down to a dog, I was about to type GG when a burster came and killed the dog that was on him.

[warm gulch]

[formal hamlet]

That zealot was carrying.

I would have folded under half the pressure this guy was under.

[warm gulch]

Common zealot W

[void dragon]

most balanced class in the game btw

still amazing

[wild vortex]

reddit is such a meme bro: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1r0mg98/going_from_vet_to_zealot_feels_like_being_a_poor/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[lunar maple]

Zealot mains are some down bad freaks

[wild vortex]

zealot chat is freak chat, yes

but that redditor is just a tool

I think even zealot chat wouldn't want to associate with him

[formal hamlet]

When some posts something dumb here, it gets buried under other posts immediately. When someone posts something dumb on Reddit, it's like posting an ad for how dumb you are, gets a lot more visibility.

Should I be setting up all my curios like this guy says? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilpz6CViiog

[tall torrent]

no.

actually start by not watching him lol

[verbal token]

People on this server are much, much more trustworthy and reliable.

[calm shard]

the CEO of misinformation

[turbid ibex]

Not like thats a high bar to clear

[verbal token]

Fair enough, that is true lmao.

[wild vortex]

nah, COO

we all know who the CEO is

[livid hill]

how does one have situational awareness and also be snipers

[past peak]

Sound cues mostly

There's a slight woosh sound when someones about to punch you in the back

Or side

And also trust in your team a little bit

Many times have I been popping gunner heads while I had faith I would be safe to engage in this firefight

And its not optimal but you can rapidly switch between a really quick cheeky headshot and going back to pressing in sometimes

[livid hill]

:>

[warm gulch]

I knew it!

[livid hill]

lowkey hated his video on vet reworking and im glad im not just cwazy

[narrow frost]

most darktide youtubers that post stuff like tierlist just post stuff for views, not actual accurate information

[tall torrent]

I could make a tier list and make people real mad

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396860171541807105/1232138126441582642/mfw_deadass.gif

[neon karma]

what are actual, factual, unheretical sources for builds then?

[tall torrent]

check pinned guide

[fair shale]

Asking in chat here most of the time

[hybrid plover]

Me

[tall torrent]

am coping insanely hard rn over chain weapons

FS code legit insane

[wild vortex]

pinned guide here, Ogrynomicon, Psyker guide, Cole / Ainz / Path / other experienced players' builds

[tall torrent]

why does an attack that has 0.001 cleave have 4 different cleave distribution targets

[neon karma]

[tall torrent]

why are chain weapons' sawing attacks so ridiculously complex

[fair shale]

If you remove one of them the game stops working and they can't figure out which ones

[livid hill]

why is competetive urge bad

it seems okay but everyone hates it

[hybrid plover]

It's not bad. It's just not good either.

[fair shale]

Imo it's lackluster cause of proc conditions/chances

[hybrid plover]

That and

It's one of the very few talents in this game that can be rendered completely useless.

[tall torrent]

proc condition bad => uptime bad

[hybrid plover]

By simply being the last person alive.

[tall torrent]

only gets ~20% of an entire mission's length as uptime

[hybrid plover]

Which is, really bad actually.

[tall torrent]

and that's assuming ur teammates are getting a lot of kills

[tall torrent]

no it actually just is pointless

a lot of lines in the code are actually just pointless

it's making it rly hard to me to write guide abt them

because it's so much unnecessary garbage that it's making me push the 8k character limit per section

[calm shard]

hell yeah do it

[narrow frost]

vet moment

[formal hamlet]

4AM auric quick plays, team can't finish missions.

[tall torrent]

game's audio so bad

[formal hamlet]

Don't worry it's not like audio is important at all in a game like this, low priority to fix.

[livid hill]

ok

[livid hill]

i have an opinion thatll make people mad

[tall torrent]

u def do

[livid hill]

they should replace the heretics in darktide with sharks and ccall it sharktide

wait tf do you mean by that

[tall torrent]

https://klipy.com/gifs/devious-evil-cat

[faint beacon]

Epitome of all or nothing in havoc bro I swear

fucking get breathed on by a sniper or burster and just explode

[hybrid plover]

sound so chalked i can't even hear backstab cues in havoc sometimes now

[narrow frost]

found a new fav vet build though

[faint beacon]

What is it

[narrow frost]

dclaw revolver

krak stanse

stance

[hybrid plover]

i really do hope they try to reverse course at least a little with buffing player power so much that this is happening so often now cuz of all the density spam

[faint beacon]

Thats def a build

[narrow frost]

revolver can reach ranged 1 taps in pus

[hybrid plover]

so that's what you were using...

[narrow frost]

for some reason I thought the nancy was a stimpack

and I wouldnt take damage from the rodin mines

https://tenor.com/view/brain-damage-cat-hammer-bonk-kitten-gif-17025947340241767034

[potent talon]

I may be blind but I don't see a good h 40 build in pins does anyone have a recomendation for a build?

[livid hill]

cowboy w deadeye

[potent talon]

Thanks 👍

[torpid grotto]

bowling alley screen when u get a strike:

[formal hamlet]

So are these situations normal for this build or am I just not using it correctly? I feel like the DB should just be one shotting these guys, and I thought it could cleave through enemies too for mixed hordes so I was expecting it to kill both trappers up close in one blast. Am I just not triggering a certain passive that's meant to nuke everything?

[faint beacon]

Surgical Handcannon I assume

[narrow frost]

run and gun/point blank

[faint beacon]

Point blank is pretty fucking good on Revolver ngl

I dont know many other weapons that benefit from it

but I can say Revolver is like a big one that genuinely likes it

Dookieshart can you add a Single Stub Pistol that has that on its blessing pool please and thanks

[narrow frost]

1st clip: DB has hard time killing dogs, most pellets dont hit

2nd: it seems liked you only hit the 2nd trappers legs

aimed too low

3rd is common

[wild vortex]

in the trapper clip, you only had 1 stack of WS so you probably didn't crit and cleave through the first one. The lone shotgunner, you crit him and the bleed killed him off. I have no idea how the dog didn't die.

[narrow frost]

some pellets hit but Dot killed

[formal hamlet]

I think I need 3 stacks minimum to guarantee crit from WS, right?

[narrow frost]

yes 3

[hybrid plover]

That trapper in the back wasn't bleeding

Didn't crit.

[formal hamlet]

Okay gotta count my melee kills and if it's less than 3 I need to fire twice just to be sure.

[hybrid plover]

If you feel the need to, it doesn't hurt to double shot since you're running a very sustainable build.

Double barrel vet with survivalist is really ammo efficient.

[formal hamlet]

Yeah I practically never need ammo on this build tbh.

[latent star]

If you have maxed crit from Reciprocity two stacks is enough but that's not super easy to track at an instant glance.

10% + 25% + 66% from WS.

[wild vortex]

demogryn on my team

surely I won't hate my life during this match

[mental barn]

I noticed that I seem to be doing a lot less damage to the same target in mission compared to meatgrinder, even if i set meatgrinder to the same difficulty. Am I imagining things or is fatshark trolling me?

[tall torrent]

wdym a lot less dmg to the same target

[mental barn]

in meatgrinder i delete armored rager in less than a second

in actual game i seems to take longer than that

of course it could be that I am missing some shots or something

i am using the recon lasgun so high rate of fire but less breakpointy

[tall torrent]

missed shots, hitting different body parts, etc

[mental barn]

I am just wondering whether there is some known issue where the HP is not actually the same between mission and meatgrinder

or if it is just missing shots

or maybe the adrenaline makes me experience time differently

[tall torrent]

shouldn't be the case

[mental barn]

alright

[livid hill]

Dont shotguns work wierd in this gamey game

[latent star]

They are super weird in this game.

[lunar maple]

Weird as fuck

[tame granite]

minimum pellet count is the only weird part right?

or do they have other shenanigans at play

[lunar maple]

Combat shotgun has model that’s alternate fire is a slug shot

Tbh I only ever used combat, I know there’s also the double barrel, the arbites shotgun

[tall torrent]

yes

[dry cloak]

warden @willow rain

[willow rain]

Police!

[dry cloak]

yamato

[willow rain]

Ayo

She so long

Why she got a 9 head

[dry cloak]

celeste

[willow rain]

Who stretched the robot

[willow rain]

Smash

[dry cloak]

yamato is a alien

[willow rain]

Yamato looks like an alien

[dry cloak]

still due for a new model

heres venator

[wild vortex]

why has general invaded vet chat

[dry cloak]

well i need to send pictures somewhere

[normal sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/deadlock-warden-alchemical-flask-gif-10946661139367895349

[dry cloak]

i like his ultimate

hes stupid fun when you get to know him

[normal sparrow]

Not a fan but funni shonen protag act with calling out his moves

[normal sparrow]

Iirc old model when the game was called neon prime
Her lore was 'alien weeb' iirc?

[dry cloak]

alien very fascinated with feudal japan

[drowsy perch]

i forgot how insanely good revolver crit build is

one shot ragers without even headshotting on auric

one shot everything else too

[dry tundra]

Is there a matching head piece for the Veteran's Sentry set?

[drowsy perch]

no(?) but some shop items fit

or just nothing/random gear

like the headset

[dry tundra]

True

I'm using this helmet here but the colors are slightly different that it's bugging me

Like it's a slightly different green

I guess I'll just use the vox set when I get it from hestia's blessing then

[agile yew]

Army gear often has slightly different shades as differently aged and others gone through more washing machine runs

And different runs of the same camo can have also slightly different color shades

[dry tundra]

I'll headcanon it as that then, alright

[drowsy perch]

stop giving me the same thing wtf

[dry cloak]

if stats are good keep them and swap mark

[midnight galleon]

no joke but I wonder canonically what would be the most advanced/powerful marks in warhammer

of like, armor and weapons

Cuz Lasguns have like 1000 and 1 different variants

[agile yew]

They should give more lore accurate special missions where you play veteran with only basic grunt cosmetics and only las guns and limited amount of talent points, and that trench mission

Maybe 1 guy could have shout and fancier clothes and chainsword + bolterpistol

[dry tundra]

what are some good vet builds anyway? I'm doing the power sword/dueling sword and plasma gun build rn

[midnight galleon]

Can't go wrong with Vraks Infantry Autogun

Im told the Recon Lasrifle is actually top tier too.

[agile yew]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3367063781

The boring answer is that the pinned guide has you covered

[dry tundra]

aww

[agile yew]

Has some build templates there too

[dry tundra]

I just want some fun builds that are still viable for auric

[south river]

I just wish it was more like the Ogrynomicon

with some clearly explained H40 builds tht are proven/explained by users

[tall torrent]

is this modded

[dry tundra]

Nope

[tall torrent]

there's no graia helmet with that visor

[dry tundra]

oh I took it from the internet

it's that helmet specifically

from the comissiary

[tall torrent]

yea the commissary one isn't called that or looks like that

[dry tundra]

It does look like that though

[south river]

the commissary one has a red visor that clips through helmet

[south river]

@woeful ibex wasn't that one of the new datamined Graia mk helmets?

[tall torrent]

the show cosmetic mod doesn't have it

[dry tundra]

oh it is kinda different

[south river]

This one is the Commissary one

you can see the clipping

[dry tundra]

Is this not the same helmet

dude

[tall torrent]

this is the paid one unreleased and it's cadian green helmet

[dry tundra]

i just realized that the visor IS clipped

[tall torrent]

no, red visor and clips through

[dry tundra]

what the fuck fatshark

[south river]

You posted both

[tall torrent]

idk where ur orange visor graia mark is from

[south river]

The zoom out pick is the clipped one

the zoomed in pic is the unreleased one

[dry tundra]

yeah

[dry tundra]

it found it online

[tall torrent]

prob made up

[midnight galleon]

luul

[dry tundra]

Ok i need this though

It fits the color scheme better

on the veteran's sentry uniform

[tall torrent]

oh this is made up

but, the orange visor cadian one I posted above is real

[south river]

Indonesian google results with French reddit post 👀

Globaltide

[dry tundra]

how can you see all the helmets btw? or is that a screenshot?

[tall torrent]

mod

shows all cosmetics

[midnight galleon]

when your zealot hits the poxburster and you gotta hit 'em with the Cadian Stare

[dry tundra]

I see

I need that helmet in rotation so i can buy it

[midnight galleon]

You could always remove the object from your knee

Become Outdoknesian

[south river]

Hopium abusers believe the Cadian cosmetics will launch this week

as premium sets

[tall torrent]

Don’t we all

[tall torrent]

I doubt it

[dry tundra]

I just want a cadian fit maaan

[tall torrent]

But if they actually hotfix the game and release it this Thursday you’ll hear no complaints from me about DT for at least a week

[south river]

Who are we to get in the way of Hopium?

[dry tundra]

Also yeah I just realized that this helmet's visor is clipped because dude, what

[tall torrent]

There was a time when vet kept getting coat/jacket loop

And if they don’t hotfix, this Thursday will most likely be a rerun

No new weapon cosmetics to add

[south river]

I hope they punish hopium addicts by giving us Vostroyans again

https://tenor.com/view/thierry-henry-thierry-henry-arsenal-roam-gif-21292008

[tall torrent]

Vostroyan stuff actually ok

[midnight galleon]

I would like storm trooper fit

[south river]

Yes, it's ok but people will be furious to have it 3 times in 5 months

[midnight galleon]

gimme dat hot-shot lasgun and Hell Pistol.

[pseudo fiber]

Zealot doesn't have a cadian recolour so as path says it won't be this week unless theres a hotfix today

Also isn't the inquisitorial agents set up for a rerun before vostroyans

We got those like last September

Agents was in June

[tall torrent]

They only added Cadian helmet to vet and psyker, and changed vet’s relic of Cadian armor to have a yellow ish clothing instead of the old green

Nothing added to zealot or ogryn yet

[south river]

that wouldn't be punishment for the Cadian hopium

[tall torrent]

And no Cadian psyker fit

So I doubt it’s Cadian this Thursday

[midnight galleon]

canadian Imperial Troopers

lets go

[south river]

there's already a fit similar to this that they could relabel though

[woeful ibex]

who tag

[pseudo fiber]

I believe that's already there

[south river]

I think they'll save Cadians for a bigger event like Skulls or some anniversary thing

[tall torrent]

Possible

[pseudo fiber]

Cadians releasing December this year

[tall torrent]

I’m guessing some boring rerun this Thursday

[pseudo fiber]

Probably

[tall torrent]

If no hotfix within next 3 days

Which I doubt

With that said

[pseudo fiber]

I'm gonna guess the Chinese New year sets

[tall torrent]

I have perhaps cooked up smth for falchion

[pseudo fiber]

Remember those haha

[tall torrent]

Overload is actually not a bad choice for falchion

[woeful ibex]

It was part of the hotfix pal

its gonna be the same situation for the Enforcers

[south river]

but Guide and BJH are saying that da Cadians don't have Zealot or Psyker skins

[woeful ibex]

imagine we wait for like another 2 weeks

[woeful ibex]

ah my bad

[tall torrent]

Yea, they hotfixed some stuff in, but not all the stuff needed to make a rotation

[south river]

I want a drumfed bolt pistol cosmetic

or Mk

[tall torrent]

I need them to buff falchion to be good

[south river]

Cursed Monkey Paw: they nerf power sword so falchion seems better

[tall torrent]

Falchion actually kinda wack

I did the numbers and it actually benefits a lot from overload

[pseudo fiber]

Excited for this

[tall torrent]

Excited for wot

[pseudo fiber]

Overload value

[tall torrent]

Basically

Because of the way cooling rate modifiers work (they change based on how much heat u have)

Overload taking away 25% heat immediately, allows u to skip almost the entire first 2 heat phases which makes the overall cooling duration ~33% shorter (including the 1s cooling delay)

(Overload is also just a direct upgrade to Heatsink in 95%+ situations lol)

And, with overload, cooling from 100% to 0% is actually ~8.71s (including delay) which is a bit faster than relic blade

[fluid rune]

is it though? Relic blade has overload as well

[pseudo fiber]

That is actually interesting

Does this move power falchion up a tier

[tall torrent]

Relic blade can get faster by taking overload but u usually wouldn’t

[tall torrent]

No

[pseudo fiber]

Damn

[tall torrent]

But it makes it a bit more usable

[fluid rune]

unfortunately its a meta blessing for relic blade too

[tall torrent]

Is it?

[fluid rune]

yea for the same reasons y ou would take it on falchion. more power up uptime.

relic blade has amazing light attacks and charge attack. almost never use the heavies

[tall torrent]

It’s not that big of a difference for relic blade iirc

A little under 3s difference

And u usually don’t want to overheat relic blade

Since it has better cooling rate modifier curve

[fluid rune]

even more reason to take it imo. it means you always have the power up.
especially when a wall of armour comes. Nothing feel worse than using the heavies unpowered to compensate.
Also yeah why does the falchion have terrible cooling

give the falchions uncanny 🙂

[tall torrent]

If u turn if off before it overheats (which relic blade usually wants, to take advantage of its better cooling curve), overload does nothing

[fluid rune]

right. however, the damage perks dont give it more breakpoints. unless you play book
with a horde as dense as H40 overload keeps you alive at least.

you know. based on the functionality of the Falchion handguard. It should be able to parry

[dapper coyote]

Chat, is shredder autopistols havoc viable?

I haven't seen anybody used them in havoc

[fluid rune]

not for high havoc

[dapper coyote]

I see

[fluid rune]

not enough ammo for it. mayb on scum but why

[woeful ibex]

On higher levels for Havoc Nope
Lower Levels (Maybe 1-15) are okish. I saw some players use it to supress scabs

[tall torrent]

It’s ok as a stagger/suppression tool but that’s a pretty niche application

@pseudo fiber @woeful ibex so uh

Hotfix just dropped

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396860171541807105/1232138126441582642/mfw_deadass.gif

[pseudo fiber]

:p

What a wonderful day

Whip the dataminers

[tall torrent]

Hive scum melee buffed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396860171541807105/1232138126441582642/mfw_deadass.gif

Removed rampage exhaustion

[pseudo fiber]

We're never getting collectively nerfed are we

[tall torrent]

Tbh a lot of good changes for melee hvs

I don’t think it makes the ceiling much higher for melee hvs?

[pseudo fiber]

The toughness regen change on stim lab is nice

[tall torrent]

But it makes the floor way higher

[pseudo fiber]

But also like... they don't seem to address the core problem

Which is toughness regen is shit

[tall torrent]

They changed it to replenishment tho?

[pseudo fiber]

I phrased that poorly

It's good that they changed it to replenishment

But the overall problem is still toughness regen is bad

But they're just kinda scooting around it

[tall torrent]

Yea it is what it is

[woeful ibex]

Damn after i atee dinner

goddamnit I am eating pizza

[tall torrent]

I’m not at my pc rn

[woeful ibex]

[tall torrent]

Anyone check the skins

[pseudo fiber]

I'll keep an eye in driptide

650mb there are skins

[tall torrent]

Cool

[pseudo fiber]

Red visor is gone lol

[tall torrent]

Damn

Unfortunate

[pseudo fiber]

Well actually

"Fixed the red visor"

[tall torrent]

Fix could mean no more red visor, or fixed visor clipping

Guessing they removed the visor

[woeful ibex]

Cosmetic Fixes
Pyre Blade: fixed an issue where the VFX was not spanning the full length of the blade.

Antax Mk III Conclave-issue Tactical Helm: fixed the red visor.

Commando Beret with Augmetic Implant (Green): fixed some visual issues.

Pugilist Armour (XXXXL) (Tread Lightlies): fixed some clipping and physics issues

[tall torrent]

Are there?

[pseudo fiber]

Idk they took the visor

Because of woke

[tall torrent]

Are there new skins I mean

If not then prob rerun

[gentle lake]

Woah woah what?

What?

??

Why the fuck did they do that

[woeful ibex]

Visor is gone

yeah someone got it right though

Fatshark accidentally gave it to a freeskin

[gentle lake]

Why rhe actual fuck would they remove exhaustion that actually gave it balance and a small sense of realism

Like

Huh???????

[pseudo fiber]

If you complain hard enough about things it becomes true you know

[gentle lake]

Scum already has insane toughness regen and you're doing this?

Sorry

Stamina

Stamina regen

[pseudo fiber]

Don't worry they also give them toughness replenishment stims too

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/494967984678241600

Full notes

[gentle lake]

All you need to do is wait a few seconds for it to fully restore to its full speed

[gentle lake]

Yea i saw but like

Whst are they doing

[tall torrent]

Small but questionable buff to ranged hvs
Mostly reasonable buffs to melee hvs

[gentle lake]

Its just crazy that they removed the most major problem with my crack head dyke build

Now no more exhaustion

Raw speed

[fair shale]

I'm happy with no exhaustion tbh

Didn't deserve it imo

[lyric path]

nice an update

[pseudo fiber]

"We have added exhaustion to infiltrate I guess idk"

[fair shale]

Lowkey a vet buff

[lyric path]

thats not in the patch notes chuckle nuts nice try

[thorn lark]

The killed the rampage all or nothing synergy

fuck dem

[slender elm]

Bastard afk calls me a karen for wanting to kick him

[dense rapids]

I sure love fatshark stealing the visor away because it was hard mogging any premium helmet they crapped

[pseudo fiber]

Especially with all the clipping and visable eyebrows

[slender elm]

https://tenor.com/view/commissar-warhammer40k-imperium-of-man-imperial-guard-40k-gif-15890262

Not the scum channel

[agile yew]

Again, already deleted previous message sent here

[slender elm]

I'm joking tbh

But definitely annoyed at the very unsatisfying patch notes

[lyric path]

is it just me or does the dodge feel allot worse?

[slender elm]

Nerfed significantly vs melee

[lyric path]

what the devs nerf dodging?

[slender elm]

For scum

[pseudo fiber]

Like 2-3 weeks ago but that was fixing a bug

Where you were immune to ranged

During the linger

[slender elm]

Wait this is old patch?

Lul

No it aint

[dry tundra]

wtf

why remove the visor

welp

[lyric path]

oh nevermind its the fucking fat shark servers being shit

[dry tundra]

guess i'm not using any helmet i ugess

[slender elm]

Yeah I'm just using the vox headset

[dry tundra]

wait did they patch it today?

or later

[pseudo fiber]

Today

Like 2 hours ago

[dry tundra]

huh

ok

[slender elm]

Welp, scum dodge got gutted

[silver patrol]

Not really

[slender elm]

It reads like that but I have no idea how scum works

So I'll take your word for it

[silver patrol]

It's a buff if anything

Well the entire class only got buffs from this patch

I suppose the chemnade was nerfed

[slender elm]

Unwarranted but fartshart gonna fartshart

[pseudo fiber]

Unwarranted???

[slender elm]

the buffs i mean

[pseudo fiber]

Oh I was gonna say chem nade should be nerfed

[tame lodge]

5 seconds nerf is alright considering it went from 20 to 15

[slender elm]

where the fuck are my ilas buffs and ogryn buffs

[stiff glacier]

i just want that chem nade doesnt send my fps into mariana trench

[dire wyvern]

Patch released as we were playing

[slender elm]

not had that issue, what's causing it?

[stiff glacier]

i dont know i suppose its just all the explosions from the chem nade

but it really kills fps

[vestal badger]

There's probably mods out there that change the screen effects for it, idk if that would help

Disable Screen Effects has a lot of options, not sure if it has one for chem nade

[ancient lynx]

Oh I hope they are fucking happy

The money they will get for removing red visor from basically free skin.

Man fatshark just keep fucking it up.

For those who don't know what I'm yapping about. Here's an image

The ember color visor on second pic (Correct me if im wrong, im not great with colors) One on the right is an cosmetic that you need to pay them a real money. And one on first was what it was before which was basically free.

And they removed it

I hope this is a "bug"

Cause that's fucking low even for fatshark

[pseudo fiber]

The red visor being added to the left one was a bug yes.

[ancient lynx]

Oh

Bruh

[pseudo fiber]

Hence the clipping and the visible eyebrows

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153279327513886770/1470770903754473533/image.png?ex=698c81a5&is=698b3025&hm=5136c2deddff29467734a3c54cc100ce3d39e679dcb64e7e178afdde4b05b850&

[ancient lynx]

Okay.. well

[pseudo fiber]

I believe it was this ones texture

However do voice your complaints

[ancient lynx]

I should've known..

Fatshat making actually good cosmetic for free?

Lol I trusted them

[pseudo fiber]

They the moebian stuff is free

[ancient lynx]

I trusted the wrong fucking assholes

[ancient lynx]

You mean this one the one that you must do lots of penance to complete to get

[pseudo fiber]

Ye

[ancient lynx]

Which drains your soul for completing some dumb shit over and over again.

Welp

Looks cool but that thing gotta wait...

Gonna take a while to get that far

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/pfft-trying-not-to-laugh-laughing-holding-laugh-covering-laugh-gif-10899551814881068905

[ancient lynx]

Stop laughing

I know i was fucking dumb now

Fatshark giving us something that looks nice for free..? Yeah.. I should've known

The fucking weapon cosmetics we get for free is a God damn Red vs Blue but more shittier.

[midnight galleon]

you'll get there. veteran is the easiest tbh

of all the classes to penance...except maybe hive scum and arbites

[ancient lynx]

Yeah I'm not touching hive scum

It ain't my type

[midnight galleon]

im actually literally one/two mission away from finishing Veteran penances lol

depending on how many kills I can get for marksman

[ancient lynx]

Well for me I can't really do the accuracy with no ammo left and take no melee damage at all.

Other than those two I can do other stuff easy

[unreal nova]

You mean, assist in 50 havoc wins.

[ancient lynx]

Oh right

My bad

Yeah I can do 50 assist havoc win

[unreal nova]

That's for it. 50 played, hosted or assist for chest, h25 win for pants.

[ancient lynx]

That I can do

[midnight galleon]

Its done!

All vet penances 😄

[dry tundra]

is it just me or is a krieg voice personality would be cool

[turbid ibex]

meh

[dry tundra]

now that i think about it

they'll probably be depressed

so yeah nvm

[tame lodge]

Zealot but veteran

[mystic pilot]

There's like two

From krieg veteran cosmetic costumes

[dry tundra]

Wait there's unique voice lines?

[south river]

Wrong visor on the wrong skin

[dry tundra]

how long does it take to finish those penances btw?

like all 3

[silver patrol]

A lot

[dry tundra]

Oh wait

havoc assignments are weekly?

[midnight galleon]

seems like it

[dry tundra]

50 weeks is insane

that's like 2-3 months nonstop

just to get the chest piece

[hollow axle]

What is the best Helbore mark ?

[pseudo fiber]

Assignments are but these are just from finishing missions

You could do these in a week

Hell some people did.

[mystic pilot]

Look at the pinned guide

Each mark has their differences

IIIa is middle ground
IV is hardest hitting but slowest firing
V is fastest firing

Sniper build in pinned guide is built around helbore or any weapon comparable

Finesse stat is what you want to look at if you like the sniper build and want to use other weapons beside helbore lasgun

[hollow axle]

Thanks !

[gaunt helm]

I got the no ammo left penance done by using the double barrel shotgun since as long as 1 pellet hits, it's not a miss

So when i was at the end of the mission, I just stood near the extract and just dumped the rest of the ammo at the spawning crowd

The no hit one only counts damage to health so you do get some grace with it. I think it counts Malice difficulty to just run that with shout and constantly stay topped off with toughness

[midnight galleon]

whats the no ammo left penance I can't recall...?

[turbid ibex]

90% accuracy and completely out of ammo by the end of a mission

[past peak]

Used to be 100%, back in my day

I'm Unc

You could cheese it by alt-f4 and then reconnect at the end

Kept ammo counter but accuracy was reset

[fervent quest]

Mk IV or MkVIII tac axe for veteran, which one is better? MkVIII is the heavy one, MkIV is the blue/light one

is there a noticeable difference between their specials?

[midnight galleon]

oh, if I recall I just used the revolver and shot everything as carefully as possible and just never refilled ammo for that lol

[tame lodge]

Just go with 7

[woven oak]

@tall torrent Presented without comment.

https://old.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1r0mg98/going_from_vet_to_zealot_feels_like_being_a_poor/

[fervent quest]

I saw that earlier, either he has no idea how to play vet or is baiting

[silver patrol]

zealot of all classes too

[orchid hemlock]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/fnaaq53AHC

[hollow ibex]

Vet suffers. Give scriers gaze to vet!

[woven oak]

Easier to stay alive on Vet than Psyker. You heard it here first.

[woven oak]

Scriecutioner's Glance. Just all the buffs from SG and ES put together.

[silver patrol]

easier to stay alive on hivescum actually

now that nimble got buffed, it might be even more true than usual

[hollow ibex]

The buff that SG needs!

[tame lodge]

Tooltip hides 75% of the Scriers buff
Tooltip gets bigger every patch

[ancient lynx]

can vets just get something like a talent that gets toughness everytime you do crit.

that would make vet better

[wild vortex]

That'd make WS Vet straight up immortal

[pearl oasis]

WS?

[void dragon]

Weapon Specialist

[pearl oasis]

ahh right

[void dragon]

right most keystone

[pearl oasis]

I mostly sit on left side keystone

also recon lasgun would be kinda busted with toughness on crit just because you can shoot so many lasers

[shrewd matrix]

Did this change break Longshot maximum damage bonus range?

Probably not, I think it gets the range values separately

but doesn't seem like an intentional change regardless

actually maybe it did break, could someone test it

[bitter ice]

Made me very sad I joined the discord bc of that just bought that helmet

[primal zealot]

replace point blank fartage with this

[long cedar]

this broke a couple things, it's been reported

[hollow ibex]

Wait long shot is broken now?

Bruh LOL

[shrewd matrix]

well you probably get the max bonus at 12.5m now

[narrow frost]

Lmao

[ancient lynx]

WOW A 12 METER AND A HALF??

THAT'S HUGE

[tame lodge]

Holy shit

Longshot is actually good now

[ancient lynx]

at that range i can get fucked by things like plague ogryn, beast of nurgle and many many more!

boy i can't wait to get my existence turn to red paste.

[narrow frost]

Whuh

https://tenor.com/view/horangipower-cat-sleeping-sleeping-cat-talking-to-cat-ranting-gif-4642523517141133295

[tame lodge]

Double Barrel buff

Also

[narrow frost]

Need to test

[tame lodge]

What's with DT devs and fucking up core mechanics

[narrow frost]

So it's giving max buffs at 12.5 or is it all ranges?

[tame lodge]

If it's max value at all ranges

And it's broken with all buffs like that

Gun zealot just got a huge buff

[dry tundra]

is this a typo

why does it say Mk IX but also MG XII

[tame lodge]

It was called 12 in the past

Fatshark probably forgot to change the description to match the new name

[silver patrol]

that's so fatshark of them

[tall torrent]

U don’t need to ping me for this lol

[frank basin]

Six ping

[drowsy perch]

they took our cool red visor helmet

why cant 1 cosmetic just have variants

[woven oak]

I thought it would be funny.

[tall torrent]

if I wanted to amuse myself I'd just open DT source code

[mystic pilot]

insert "One Ping only" Red October gif. Because Discord's tenor library is no more.

[woven oak]

DT source code makes me confused and sad more than amused

[sweet coyote]

I can't play darktide pugs at this hour

everyone is terrible

>>_>

[latent star]

I'm terrible at all hours. You're welcome.

[scenic lance]

whats a good plasma gun setup for the weapon

[latent star]

Talents or perks / blessings?

[scenic lance]

Perks/blessings and dumpstat

[dreamy spade]

Uhhhh

[tall torrent]

Check pinned guide

[latent star]

Plasma has dumb stat points, iirc you want exactly 72 thermal resist. Anything with 80s in damage is probably "fine"

[tall torrent]

No, number is wrong

Just check pinned guide

[dreamy spade]

Just saw Mr Es video on melee ranked

[latent star]

If we just checked the pinned guide we wouldn't have anything to mention in Discord!

You cannot condemn the Vet channel to only subsist on Ogryn memes.

[dreamy spade]

Bro put powersword on C tier

[serene bough]

Ive never seen mr e

[hybrid plover]

Huh

[dreamy spade]

https://youtu.be/3eLwZK1pih0

Paul above powersword

[serene bough]

1h video

Not gonna watch that lol

If im reading this right psword mk3 is put above mk6

[tame lodge]

Good

[hybrid plover]

...the better mk is lower

I swear to God this man just knows he makes awful takes and indulges in it for engagement

[latent star]

Dumb opinions are a good way to go viral in YouTube.

[hybrid plover]

There is absolutely no flippin way.

And of course

The dueling sword

At the tip top

[latent star]

What if: using bad weapons forces you to learn better positioning. Checkmate proper mark users!

[hybrid plover]

Dueling sword is so overrated, good lord

[latent star]

We just want it to get nerfed. It's a community project by now.

[hybrid plover]

Also

Bonesaw

In "best in class"

[tame lodge]

"An IQ Too High"

[hybrid plover]

It's at its very most competitive by that metric lmao

And not even that much so.

[distant plaza]

i'm surprised he didn't put all three dclaws in the top 3 ranks

[scenic lance]

mfers do not know how strong the crusher is for arbites

Legit booty clapper

[dreamy spade]

It's overused yeah, but I still think it's S tier for anyone who knows how to use parry properly

[scenic lance]

i miss old dueling sword

[tame lodge]

Bell curve graph but all 3 philosophies are just saying how good the DS is

[dreamy spade]

The rework was good because it nerfed easy damage but gave the opportunity for better defence

On psyker you can 1 shot crushers from parrying an overhead

[tall torrent]

ragebait

[turbid ibex]

Hey path

What build would you recommend for bolter vet

[tall torrent]

either FT or MF (tho I lean FT)

just standard vet build template with FT

I rly like +25% mag size for boltgun but pathing cost is ridiculous

[slow sky]

Shock mauls in competitive and mk1 shovel in ehh

This is ragebait

At least taxe is finally being recognized as not the worst weapon in the game but one of the best

[tame lodge]

[sly orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-reaction-reactions-meme-gif-8141100727479891642

[latent star]

MF on bolt gun is great damage but pathing to node is iffy and maintaining the buff can be a gigantic nuisance.

I do think Deadshot kinda claps on bolter though.

[mystic pilot]

isn't it only good at single target?

[hollow ibex]

Yes

[turbid ibex]

And mobility

[hybrid plover]

It's all single target and no horde clear/control. Which IMHO matters more than ever with the density spam this game is steering towards

[turbid ibex]

But its horde clear sucks balls

Which is specially bad on vet

[dreamy spade]

If you have an alternative for horde clear like flamer then it's not a problem

[hybrid plover]

I can't justifiably call that best in game.

Hell knife is even better to me than dueling sword because that can actually horde clear while still having great single target.

[turbid ibex]

Yeah thats why it used to be psyker exclusive

Both assail and staves did the horde clear for dueling sword

And at least zealot has flamer

Meanwhile vet really cant afford to have a melee with horde clear as dogshit as dueling sword

[unreal nova]

Unless you run a shit frags everywhere build.

[latent star]

Knife on vet is really good with guaranteed bleed on hit.

[unreal nova]

And win that 5% lotto.

[silent nebula]

Right one will be sold in Commodores and I bet they won't even be bothered to fill in the chip above the visor

[livid hill]

Paulersword

[unreal nova]

I mean, they did charge $5 for the Arby's raised visor.

[silent nebula]

The Inquisition took my vet's visor away and told me I had to pay for a new one, can't have shit on the mourningstar 😭

[unreal nova]

"It was an 'accident', the intern just forgot to ensure the visor is only on the paid one."

[latent star]

When you're wearing a red visor, all the red flags just look like [free cosmetics that I want to equip].

[scenic lance]

ok so what do yo urun on plasma gun

would prefer like

an answer instead of

clicking one of the dead links in pinned

[tame lodge]

Anyways

Rising Heat

Gets Hot

Flak

Unarmored

[scenic lance]

whats the stat line

[tame lodge]

71 Charge Rate
69 Thermal

[unreal nova]

68 thermal /72 charge rate works as well, but is gambly. You can test if you get one with that.

[tall torrent]

it's literally the first link

[celest delta]

"dead links"
looks inside
"updated for most recent major update"

[hollow ibex]

"oh first link" scrolls down to the pins from 2022

[narrow frost]

Could probably clean up the pins for vet chat

[hollow ibex]

yeah there's some really dated / wrong shit in there lol

[fervent quest]

okay tac-axe might be my favorite way to run vet. weaker than power sword but less obnoxious to use

[mystic pilot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BadAxeThrowing-axe-throwing-throw-spin-H3YHqxuVIA4cqEn7Gq

it is FUUUUUN

[quick shell]

That guy looks like asmongold with a hairline

[devout mist]

i love the tac-axe! 😄 very fun

good to hear someone else loves it too

[tidal fox]

the lack of horde clear is the only big ick I got

but I'd rather speed over cleave

[narrow frost]

lack of horde clear on taxe?

it has one of the best horde clears

[tidal fox]

might be using a bad version i think

idk I'll check later

[narrow frost]

mk7 headtaker, brutual momentum. Push attack heavy

[calm shard]

and here I am with decimator/shred on Mk 4 xd

[molten igloo]

that one Lincoln movie

[wild vortex]

why do people try to speedrun this game even when they don't have the skill for it

[formal ice]

They see thoses 120 fov havoc 40 solo videos where the guy just rushes ahead

Very inspiring

[slow spade]

to be fair, the spawns are infinite so I think they're going "enemies don't stop so I can't"

[narrow frost]

spawns are only infinite in some objectives

[slow spade]

yeah but most players lose to poxwalkers

so a poxwalker walking out of a door might as well be a chaos spawn to them

[wild vortex]

damn, psyker wall is goated

first time I used it

insanely useful for keeping crazy suicidal folks alive

[slow spade]

I personally like the dome more because fuck trappers

[wild vortex]

the dome is good, but the wall is good

it's a giant fuck you to muties and burster waves

I was using it with purg staff instead of shriek, because I wanted a bit more utility

wasn't expecting it to be as crazy as it turned out to b

[tall torrent]

wanna play event

[wild vortex]

Uh sure 1 game before bed

Let me restart client

Because leaktide

[wild vortex]

can I bring Scum?

free lunchbox for everyone

[tall torrent]

sure? whatever u want

[wild vortex]

I am testing different blessings on boxcutters alongside Riposte, next want to see what Executor is like

[tall torrent]

lol those 2

[wild vortex]

I mean this event really sucks

[tall torrent]

it's not that bad

[wild vortex]

although that Zealot was something else

[tall torrent]

no burster audio at the end

[wild vortex]

not that I'm stellar or anything but still

[tall torrent]

and I didn't snipe the flamer

[wild vortex]

I think three times the guy downed within 10s of being revived

[tall torrent]

if I kill that flamer I'd prob clutch

[tall torrent]

that other hive scum needed help yea

wanna go again

[wild vortex]

ok that wasn't terrible at least

[tall torrent]

that went so much better

[wild vortex]

nah I have to go to bed now but ty for the game

humbling experience

[tall torrent]

ggs

[wild vortex]

only need to get the heavy attacks penance now

changes to the toughness stimm tree made the toughness penance so much easier

[tall torrent]

that one ez just run heavy sword

[wild vortex]

Yeah doing that

I just find its single target very clunky

Special into h1

Because you need to wait for that silly flourish animation

Hmm seems like Cole just heavy-lights into everything

[tall torrent]

shame we lost this one

[wild vortex]

Mans purposefully opens the clip with me getting owned

[tall torrent]

I thought I killed that sniper

[wild vortex]

And I thought I dodged it

Sniper laughing at us both

[dry cloak]

If it works why change

[drowsy perch]

i really do wish vet had an actual sniper rifle

like with a scope

maybe have it be like a heatscope or something so you can pair it with smoke

technically

ES

so nvm

[dry cloak]

Scoped rifles dont really work for darktide

Because of how the game is in the current state

[latent star]

I wish the helbore had some nice reflex sights, a scope wouldn't work for how fast the game is.

Also give helbore like x10 their current cleave please its a charged laser.

[tall torrent]

Hotshot blessing addresses this mostly

[latent star]

Nah dawg I don't want cleave going from 3 to 6, I want cleave going from 3 to 20!

I want to shoot five guys.

[tall torrent]

Nah that’d be ridiculous

No ranged weapon should have that much cleave

[thorn lark]

yeah, no weapon should have 100 cleave /s

[latent star]

Imagine if grenades, blitzes, and weapons had so much cleave they made horde clear irrelevant. That would be wild :p

[normal sparrow]

Plasma joins the chat

[tall torrent]

Yea, plasma shouldn’t have that much cleave

Can use like a 90% nerf on its cleave

[lucid crest]

Fucking excuse me what

What does THAT mean

Dont tell me they killed the coolest looking free helmet in the entire game

If i log back onto vet and find out its just a clear visor i'm just gonna delete my vet and never use a firearm ever again

[calm shard]

https://tenor.com/view/rumpelstiltskin-shrek-slide-in-slide-gif-2431866412318140482

[lucid crest]

it might be worth it

i say might be very very sparingly

[scenic lance]

sticky nades hitting targets but not exploding

ping button not working for 80% of the level

peak

the classic getting stunlocked so hard you can't even swap to melee

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-six-snow-gif-12061509

[south spindle]

Rampage was already absurd without this change

There was no "might" to begin with, its been one of the strongest ults since Scum was put in the game

[pseudo fiber]

Ah but you see redditors complained

Speaking of

[tough nova]

Purg?

[south spindle]

Lmfao

Jesus christ, asking for Psyker to be buffed (yet again) is certainly one of the takes of all time

[pseudo fiber]

It'd a mad house in there

[lyric path]

Yeah does catch a breath benefit from toughness regeneration speed?

[south spindle]

Im still baffled that developers listen to redditors given they tend to sit well below the average for players you're likely to encounter

[south spindle]

It specifies a value per/second so I don't think so nah

[pseudo fiber]

Usually toughness regen speed only applies to coherency toughness

[south spindle]

It will benifit from the all toughness gained node tho, of which the name escapes me currently

Nope never mind, I was thinking of Out for Blood, but thats just kills, ignore my last

[lyric path]

But catch a breathe replenishes 5% toughness per second so maybe it might benefit from it?

Or might not

[south spindle]

Nah, BJH is right, toughness regen speed is only coherency

[celest delta]

yes, buff us again. what could POSSIBLY go wrong

[south spindle]

CaB gives you what it says; 5% per second, it'll be uneffected by regen speed perk

[tame lodge]

I think he's right and Fatshark should make psyker toughness 400 by default

[scenic lance]

Autoguns would feel nice if the fucker you were shooting didn't immediately drop to his knees and beg for nurgle

[south spindle]

Toughness regen as a perk has basically only ever been relevant in early Darktide when everyone was notably worse and the stat was functioning in a broken manner, and when Zealot had Loner, but aside from that, its kinda always been bad

[scenic lance]

and before you could reroll perks

[elfin orchid]

autoguns would feel nice if you could see anything while firing

[pseudo fiber]

I know jokes aside instantly starting with "Coherency is important for toughness regen'

BROTHER

[south spindle]

Well, I still wouldnt have called it good then, but it was "this will do" territory

[scenic lance]

Seeing isn't the problem the problem is your target jittering around too much for 99% of players to accurate beam their head

They either instantly duck into cover or cower

And then the entire design of salvo perks is dogshit

bc they don't want to reward the first shot for some reason

[left garden]

So, Imma be honest i mostly play psyker not veteran. But i tried making a comfy if not somewhat casual vet build and since I know barely anything i wanted to ask... How badly did i fuck it up? And what did i fuck up?

note it'll be paired with a reconlas and a power sword

[formal ice]

No 10% attack speed

Bad build seriously

[left garden]

Woaw hey hey, no need to get that fucker in here I've not been to cyberstan yet! Anyway which node would that be?

[pseudo fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/blunder-princess-bride-you-fool-gullible-gotcha-gif-14120688

You took onslaught

[formal ice]

The node with the sword icon in the top middle right

Also below is bleed on melee

Just a heads up if you want to deal with hordes better

[left garden]

Onslaught that bad?

[left garden]

And what would i best swap it out with then? Since I'm kinda strapped for points it feels

[livid hill]

Onslaught on fast gun iz goods

[formal ice]

The middle of the middle nodes

[livid hill]

Bad on slow firing or like, semi auto weapons, good for like vraks autogun or reconlas

[pseudo fiber]

It's okay but it'd you're taking psword what will onslaught do

[livid hill]

Wdym theyre also taking reconlas

Why would it need to do anything for psword

[lyric path]

I’m honestly very confused

[livid hill]

I am too i thought onslaught was considered good for high rof

[lyric path]

So toughness regeneration speed doesn’t effect catch a breath that’s correct right?

[livid hill]

The brittleness stacks actually let you stand (somewhat) of a chance against carapace soam without dying

[tame lodge]

Because if you have a Psword you don't need Onslaught

[lyric path]

But yet that skill regens toughness

[livid hill]

By that logic you dont need a second weapon

[tame lodge]

Ye actually

You can 100% melee this game

[left garden]

So swap iron will for the melee attack speed then?

[livid hill]

Not pinging u bc idk but Afaik doesnt it effect all toughness gains?

[tame lodge]

Very easily as well

[formal ice]

Perhaps, I somewhat forgot the names of nodes

[livid hill]

Yeah but like, as a vet feels like youre nerfing urself

[livid hill]

NO

[lyric path]

So why wouldn’t toughness regeneration speed effect catch a breath but instead toughness regeneration speed only takes effect when in coherency

[tame lodge]

Unlikely
Because power sword

[lyric path]

Wait wouldn’t arbi be able to take advantage of that perk

[livid hill]

Silence

[lyric path]

With their dog counting towards coherency

[livid hill]

Its all abt what ur building for. Do u want a good balance, do u want mostly melee, do u want mostly dakka

This efgects things

[livid hill]

No cause its inly for the vet afaik

[lyric path]

[livid hill]

Dont listen to this one use shovel instead /lh

[livid hill]

What good teamwork these two have

[tame lodge]

My kin on the imperium

https://tenor.com/view/pfft-trying-not-to-laugh-laughing-holding-laugh-covering-laugh-gif-10899551814881068905

I refuse to believe you're saying that

[livid hill]

No its NOT meta but that is what makes it superior

[tame lodge]

I agree
Delusions make everything superior

[livid hill]

You have no honor

[tame lodge]

I have for honor

Anyways what was the main discussion again
Oh yeah Onslaught bad

[left garden]

Ok, originally I wanted a heavy dakka build. However the more I'm using vet the more i notice i am very balanced in my use of melee and gun.

I said before, I'm using a reconlas and a power sword. Along with krak nades.

I use my kraks for heavy armored targets (crusher go explode hehe)

I use my powersword for hoardes that get too close or to cut a path.

I use my reconlas if I'm father away or for dangerous ranged enemies like snipers and gunners.

That enough info or is there still specifics that I'm missing?

[livid hill]

Jokes aside but Onslaught unironically bad if you dont want to do a melee build because no melee weapon can swing fast enough to proc it afaik

[left garden]

I will say. Maybe at some point I'll use an autogun instead of a reconlas. But for now that beautiful laser-hose is glued to my loadouts

[scenic lance]

whats onslaught again

[lyric path]

Onslaught bad? I use onslaught with the MK VIc recon lasgun

[livid hill]

I think you could drop onslaught then? Maybe? It gives ur lasgun significant dps buff but like idk it sounds like you'd get along fine without it

I give you permission to kill me if it doesnt work out tho

[tame lodge]

Bottom right talent
Stacks Brittleness

[scenic lance]

oh yeah

Think the only reason it stacks 16 times is because all brittle stacks that high

[livid hill]

I hate that they used brittleness to describe armor penetration in this game bc it just makes me think of peanut brittle

[scenic lance]

I mean, rending is armor pen too though

[left garden]

I see. Well i still wanna get to the keystone though so now I wonder if it's a good idea to swap it compared to the other option then, exploit weakness

[livid hill]

Yes because youre using melee a lot so

[livid hill]

We should not support the carapace

[left garden]

I see. And you were very quick to say no to swapping iron will for trench fighter. Can i ask why, and what you would swap instead?

[livid hill]

Bc its vewy vewy good for survivability especially with your ult

[livid hill]

I would swap one of those little dot nodes that are just a flat stat buff

You have one next to onslaught u dont need

[lyric path]

why does the MK XIV recon lasgun use 2 bullets instead of 1

[livid hill]

Bc """""balance""""

[left garden]

Oh the toughness one?

[livid hill]

In practice it just makes it outright inferior

[tame lodge]

Ask that about a good amount of Lasgun

[livid hill]

Because it also shoots so slow

[tame lodge]

[livid hill]

Yes

[left garden]

Fair enough

[south spindle]

Shh, you'll summon yet another SG buff

[livid hill]

Sg buff?

[left garden]

So now it'll look something like this then?

[livid hill]

Sword gun buff

[livid hill]

Looks right to me

[left garden]

Fair enough. I've just gotta get my final points this afternoon and I'll be set then (for how much i can be)

I'll say i don't know why but i expected vet to be tankier then he is (not counting VoC)

[livid hill]

Get the bag son

[south spindle]

Scrier's Gaze

[elfin orchid]

god help us if they buff scriers again

[livid hill]

Try playing exec stance vet and youll see how fragile she is fr

[lyric path]

Would the VIc recon las be able to get away with using onslaught?

[calm shard]

no

[livid hill]

More like Scriers gays 🤤

[left garden]

Please no I've still got flashbacks from my low level psyker before all the toughness talents

[lyric path]

Ok what about if you were to combine it with weapon specialist?

[livid hill]

:3

[south spindle]

I would prefer Scrier's lesbian, but we don't live in a just world

[livid hill]

Lesbians are gay

[left garden]

[lyric path]

I mean factually that’s true

[south spindle]

Can't have fun with words these days ¬.¬

[livid hill]

You live in the imperium son

What did you expect

Fun is heresy

[south spindle]

My corpse starch to be delivered on time along with my scheduled pre-servitor medical check. I'm just gonna go join a Slaneshi cult and be done with this shit

[lyric path]

Combining VIc recon las with onslaught and weapon specialist would you be able to get away with that?

[livid hill]

Yeah but then that'll be TOO MUCH fun

[livid hill]

Gonna go against the grain here and say a damage buff to your ranged weapon is good if you i tend to use that ranged weapon a lot

It doesnt just effect carapace its everything anyways

[lyric path]

stim-shady go back to the arbi chat also good to know

[south spindle]

Death by overdose, death by becoming a twisted art peice or sacrificed to summon a daemonette are all more preferable than being servitorized

[south spindle]

Go back to repeatedly asking if toughness regen perk is worth taking

[lyric path]

i would but i already found my answer

and i only asked about it twice

[livid hill]

"Death"

You clearly are not familiar with slaanesh

[lyric path]

personally i'd prefer death by bullet

[livid hill]

Then the imperial guard is right for you

[south spindle]

Idk, there is plenty of murder involved, usually after extensive amounts of misery and pleasure, but theres certainly death invovled.. ...eventually

Still better than 200 years as a servitor

[livid hill]

You say that now i dont know if you will in 3000 years when slaanesh still wont let your soul dissipate into the warp

[south spindle]

I feel like I've already endured 3,000 years, whats another 3,000 😄

[formal hamlet]

Jesus, going from scum taxe to vet taxe, I feel so much slower in attack speed and everything lol.

[midnight galleon]

Reminder Dark Eldar are the worst ofall the factions lol

[empty heart]

am leveling up veteran
any insanely fast leveling build