as you can see towards the end
#veteran-class
slim pagoda
whys it feel so bad firing plasma gun at rotten armor on h40 like nothing really happens lol
hollow ibex
plasma being bad against armor 
tall torrent
and plasma doesnt have good carapace adms
it does but it doesn't do high enough dmg to kill them fast enough to be worth the ammo
calm shard
and the heat xd
slim pagoda
yea its just bad go psyker or idk what else do u run
narrow frost
hit them in the head with melee
calm shard
or use the actually good carapace guns the bolter and the helbore
and be the exe+MMF veteran you were born to be
turbid ibex
hit them with the command grab
steep pier
well on havoc 40
crushers have 9600 health dont they
so with that damage reduction of course plasma guns not gonna feel good
tall torrent
crushers have 9600 health dont they
9750
steep pier
i was close thank you
slow sky
cosmic dagger
so does no one find the enemies being able to use stimms interesting
It makes sense. Almost every enemy is somewhat conscious.
tall torrent
so does no one find the enemies being able to use stimms interesting
it's alrdy a havoc mutator before this
lyric path
it's alrdy a havoc mutator before this
What enemies being able to inject stimms?
Surely you jest
cosmic dagger
Corrupted Stims modifier.
tall torrent
What enemies being able to inject stimms?
all elites & specialists
all non-chaos horde units
captains & twins
lyric path
great there goes my excitement now
tall torrent
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376> great there goes my excitement now
it's not that bad
sonic kayak
Invincible blue bulwarks 
frigid rover
truly veteran has the strongest spells in the game
an acolyte of that red witchy woman from the show with the explosive personality i suspect
tall torrent
Invincible blue bulwarks <:pray:878604870012264478>
that one got nerfed
sonic kayak
that one got nerfed
I know, my comment was replying to yours about how it's not that bad, and you're right, it was way worse 
mystic pilot
and plasma doesnt have good carapace adms
Wait until we get the melta weapon and watch bloatfish nerf its armor piercing capability into ground
hybrid plover
I'm wondering if they're doing this event to work more on making contaminated stimms less jank tbh
Could be hopium though.
tall torrent
I'm wondering if they're doing this event to work more on making contaminated st...
Currently if u get a good team enemies die during their stim animation more often than not
hybrid plover
I figured. Still would like for staggering to actually matter. And I don't even mean the red stimm causing stagger immunity
It's just really jarring staggering something only for it to completely ignore it for the stimm animation
earnest nova
Does anyone know how to transfer character data from Xbox to Steam?
tall torrent
Does anyone know how to transfer character data from Xbox to Steam?
ask on FS forums, maybe they got a way
quasi jasper
You'll first need to configure a qubit in an XOR configuration using your standard Hadamard operator. Then you'll need to communicate the entanglement via Bluetooth. Afterwards you'll decode the qubit onto your computer using your own operators, after which you'll need to attach the necessary Steam class files
slender elm
Mfw bulwarks walk into melee then inject stimms
umbral scaffold
You wanna know something that saddens me? The blue shock maul's left overhead heavy + light combo has this little flourish the character does where they swing the maul around, because the light comes from below and naturally you'd flip the weapon to do an overhead
And the sad part is that light attack from below does not have head priority
So it's cool, but not really good
south river
TY
agile mortar
guys here's an idea
Felinid character creation options DLC for Veteran
south river
Which is the best combat shotgun for vet/which blessings ?
calm shard
Which is the best combat shotgun for vet/which blessings ?
Agripinaa and Full Bore+Manstopper
south river
Agripinaa and Full Bore+Manstopper
Do you know if that works well with the Slayer build, or is it better to stick to the Double Barrel Shotgun
calm shard
I mean yeah it should slot in almost exactly the same if that's the build I'm thinking of
the WS melee one
less horde clear but hey agri slug going through an entire line of maulers
paper moon
guys here's an idea
Felinid character creation options DLC for Veteran
Only if we get Meltagun first
south river
Any good heavy plasma pistol builds?
slender elm
what
dry cloak
Theres no plasma pistol in dt
dry cloak
Any good heavy plasma pistol builds?
You meant plasmagun?
south river
Oh ffs, sorry Heavy Las Pistol
slender elm
oh lul
not sure if las pistol is good on vet, the class heavily relies on the firearm to deal with specials
unreal nova
not sure if las pistol is good on vet, the class heavily relies on the firearm t...
If you can aim, build for crits and love RSI/Carpal, great gun.
unreal nova
snipers will be pain
Just counter snipe.
slender elm
with what
unreal nova
The las pistol, the fast mark at least, can totally be used to shred things afar.
Never used the heavy mark so don't ask me.
It's a better inflas.
slender elm
i think i only used heavy mark, on psyker
unreal nova
i think i only used heavy mark, on psyker
Even psykers use the fast mark.
The heavy mark is niche.
distant mural
I like heavy mark to pop heads.
slender elm
thonk
not sure which mark im actually using
but i run it on DD psyker for easy stacks
unreal nova
not sure which mark im actually using
Fast mark has less damage and no recoil.
unreal nova
no fucking clue if worth
If you like inflas but hate how trash it is, absolutely go for it.
Cos at least for auric and below, it's great allrounder with decent magdump into boss face damage.
Actually, more than decent.
Is good.
slender elm
I just run ilas and pop heads lel
calm shard
no fucking clue if worth
yeah if you like the regular infantry las and just want to click things on the head above the shoulders
unreal nova
I just run ilas and pop heads lel
The pistol on the fast mark still better imo.
calm shard
it is effectively just a direct upgrade to the infantry lasgun
slender elm
But damage falloff...
calm shard
crits don't care and you shouldn't either
slender elm
Do I have enough crit here... im mmf...
unreal nova
The gun loves finesse as well btw.
Just need to be good at aiming, like I said earlier.
slender elm
I don't think my aim is good either
unreal nova
I don't think my aim is good either
You know the inflas also relies on headshots, right? Except it's worse than the laspistol in basically every way?
unreal nova
I'm just saying, you are basically punished more on the inflas compared to the laspistol.
slender elm
Ok
unreal nova
Plus, mobility.
That thing lets you move like having a slightly slower than knife/ds out.
slender elm
Guess I'll try it
unreal nova
Dump stablility for fast mark, mobility for heavy. Personally just dump mobility if you cba to get 2.
It's more than fast enough unless you just played zealot/ganger.
On inf blu stimms and 100% tox resist buff.
slender elm
What blessings tho, dumdum and crits?
unreal nova
Ghost lets you play budget psyker. XD
slender elm
I already have that on psyker running desperado lul
unreal nova
I already have that on psyker running desperado lul
You mean, EE.
unreal nova
Yeah, but ghost is weakspot hits.
slender elm
Welp, I generally don't need ghost on psyker especially when im clearing a room of gunners
unreal nova
Welp, I generally don't need ghost on psyker especially when im clearing a room ...
Is why they just run dumdum+infernus.
unreal nova
I'm not too impressed with infernus tho
Is more boss damage.
slender elm
On fgs psyker it seems redundant
unreal nova
Still doesn't hurt to set it on fire before bonking. Things dying faster is always good.
slender elm
Perhaps, but more crits when im shooting sounds better
calm shard
Perhaps, but more crits when im shooting sounds better
laspistol actually has higher base crit chance than other guns
I think it's +10%?
unreal nova
Perhaps, but more crits when im shooting sounds better
If you are on psyker, you already have like 50% crits free lul.
Especially meleeker or gunker with gaze.
slender elm
yeah its fgs meleeker with gaze dd
i only pull out the gun when i need to get a lot of dd quickly or i am unable to approach for melee
which doesnt happen in most cases
unreal nova
It is a good sidearm that doesn't need to greed ammo after all.
unreal nova
should i ws or mmf actually
Up to you. MMF makes it hit like a truck, WS just is silly way to get other forms of damage.
You know the pathing has all the free damage nodes.
unreal nova
Specifically skirmisher.
Cos is laspistol, you can absolutely run around to reposition and pewpew.
slender elm
eh, can you dodge slide backwards?
unreal nova
eh, can you dodge slide backwards?
Yes?
It's literally like all the fast mobility guns.
Also, you can get 1 point in MMF and still path to Skirmisher.
Assuming you also want to grab the oggy+monstrosity damage.
You have more free points if you drop the clip size or shocktrooper.
slender elm
so i can neutral dodge and still slide, interesting
unreal nova
so i can neutral dodge and still slide, interesting
You can do that with any gun, I think.
unreal nova
well i always forget to upkeep skirmisher when im swinging
Oh. Is just something to get used to or dodge sliding.
Feels crappy to path mid and not take the oggy/monstrosity damage though.
Which melee though?
slender elm
currently fucking around with taxe
unreal nova
currently fucking around with taxe
Ah, was curious to know since if possible to take the serrated point for something else.
unreal nova
i would rather skip shock trooper if i had the choice
Clip size is whatever as well, lul.
trim badger
I wish the guy was still here, literally just recorded this right after saying that
I don't understand people who say desperado is not better vet when range related stuff O_o
unreal nova
I don't understand people who say desperado is not better vet when range related...
Coping.
trim badger
Like You can see the stats at the end of the video
unreal nova
We still waiting for autoreload to return on exestance.
trim badger
More than double the one in 2nd place
Top special
Top elite
Top monstrosity
Both dmg and kills
Practically the entire scoreboard is highlighting me this is so... Desperado
unreal nova
I get it. Ppl just don't want to. Class is pay2win, but actually needs skills to a degree instead of Arby.
trim badger
I get it. Ppl just don't want to. Class is pay2win, but actually needs skills to...
Worst part is people saying it's on the weaker side like
????
unreal nova
Worst part is people saying it's on the weaker side like
It never was, that's the joke.
trim badger
Well I know that
unreal nova
Is why the rocket buff is wat?
trim badger
The moment I saw pickpocket and that it worked with needle
I knew this class was gonna be mega silly
unreal nova
And I guess no real DR, but you have god dodges and immunity.
trim badger
if desperado run vulture's Dodge and now you're immune to almost everything
unreal nova
> if desperado run vulture's Dodge and now you're immune to almost everything
Just don't dodge into an overhead.
Lul.
agile yew
Doesnt have answer to crushers in that video with DAPs and chemnades
So gotta rely team handling em
steep flower
Worst part is people saying it's on the weaker side like
Pepegas can’t even micromanage ammo & you expect them to perform with a build that relies on fundamentals?
trim badger
Pepegas can’t even micromanage ammo & you expect them to perform with a build th...
Scum doesn't even rely on fundamentals nowadays tho xddd
steep flower
Doesnt have answer to crushers in that video with DAPs and chemnades
Thats why you don’t take chem nades with despy
Rockets only (even blinders are not enough)
trim badger
The closest thing to fundamentals for scum is Rampage
steep flower
Scum doesn't even rely on fundamentals nowadays tho xddd
Dodges i meant
steep flower
Making dodges braindead
Psyker has more insane ones tbh
agile yew
Thats why you don’t take chem nades with despy
Rockets only (even blinders are n...
Yeah i always have zooka with desperado
trim badger
Psyker has more insane ones tbh
Maybe but melee gaze takes more effort than rampage scum
steep flower
Cause anticipation is balanced & ppl still don’t take it like bruh
trim badger
That's for sure
trim badger
We still waiting for autoreload to return on exestance.
"but but people would double mag dump bolter" yes that's the point 8)
unreal nova
Pepegas can’t even micromanage ammo & you expect them to perform with a build th...
Is ganger. Micromanage ammo what? I pull out ammo from prison pockets with desperado.
unreal nova
"but but people would double mag dump bolter" yes that's the point 8)
That's why vraks funny ganger thing. Just dump, desperado dump, stim fast reload dump.
trim badger
I think people are sad on vet because they can't waste ammo on horde
Unlike scum
And the saddest part?
unreal nova
Unlike scum
I know. I get the feel. Just push 1 button and free ammo.
trim badger
People new at the Game are not gonna realize this about scum and not buy the dlc
It's easy to see from the steam page something like Arbites
And you get that it's a guy with a dog
And a shield
It screams "I'm tanky"
umbral scaffold
is this one of them twitch drops? ain't never seen these cosmetics before
trim badger
But they see scum and they're like "WTF is this supposed to do"
unreal nova
But they see scum and they're like "WTF is this supposed to do"
Glass CANNON, with massive emphasis on CANNON.
calm shard
Glass CANNON, with massive emphasis on CANNON.
If they were actually glass and didn't have vulture's dodge+desperado ranged immunity they wouldn't be as big of an issue
slender elm
welp, that was 2 runs with las pistol
im not noticing any significant changes in me gameplay
lel
except less ADS i suppose
unreal nova
im not noticing any significant changes in me gameplay
It's inflas but better.
slender elm
still feel like my aim is dogshit
unreal nova
If they were actually glass and didn't have vulture's dodge+desperado ranged imm...
Isn't it why the ranged end is busted?
calm shard
yeah it is
people harp on about the infinite ammo but they sure as shit wouldn't be able to unga bunga half as hard if they could die while shooting things
unreal nova
people harp on about the infinite ammo but they sure as shit wouldn't be able to...
Honestly, the vulture's dodge bit needs the change. At least with desperado, is on a cd and a mistake could lead to a backstab.
tame lodge
is this one of them twitch drops? ain't never seen these cosmetics before
Not a twitch drop because no purple+blue blocks
That's a steel legion cap iirc
And I hope I'm right
Otherwise the steel legion fans are going to kill me
tropic halo
That frame looks like is from WH+
trim badger
If they were actually glass and didn't have vulture's dodge+desperado ranged imm...
Tbf I don't think desperado is badly designed
You do need to be immune or at the very least have big DR against ranged
For you to push in
calm shard
is this one of them twitch drops? ain't never seen these cosmetics before
hat is a ballcap recolor that was released ages ago, chest and pants are penance cosmetics, frame is for pre-ordering
trim badger
Now vulture's Dodge, that is indeed braindead easy
And OP xddd
But yeah I think Rampage and Desperado themselves are pretty alright
But vulture's Dodge and Pickpocket needs nerfs O_o
calm shard
desperado is in no way fine on its own
empathic evasion is not fine on its own and that's conditional ranged immunity
trim badger
desperado is in no way fine on its own
How
It is tied to a cooldown
If anything it's chem dependency that boosts this into oblivion
Not desperado itself
trim badger
empathic evasion is not fine on its own and that's *conditional* ranged immunity
By just... Dodging
Sorry
By critting
And Psyker can deal crits very often with weapons like recon or flame staff
orchid hemlock
Holy shit, a normal looking vet build 😭
Has the day finally come???
Did we do it chat?
unreal nova
Holy shit, a normal looking vet build 😭
WDYM, my builds are not normal?
bleak kettle
i got that build from hamdolsun been having a lot of fun with it
heavy rover
But vulture's Dodge and Pickpocket needs nerfs O_o
Shhh let me dakka dakka dakka in peace
mystic glade
best veteran build i've used so far Kraks if Rotten Armor
ayo thats my build
bleak kettle
ayo thats my build
well built than
bleak kettle
infinite cleave other than carapace 100% Crit chance shotgun
mystic glade
yeah db is goated
bleak kettle
yeah db is goated
i got it from hamdolsun he uses out for blood instead of toughness boost
mystic glade
you dont need any of those
orchid hemlock
WDYM, my builds are not normal?
Idk gotta have higher upvotes on gameslantern
unreal nova
Idk gotta have higher upvotes on gameslantern
I don't even public them lul.
tame lodge
It's all about the numbers babeeee
The numbers must go up
The numbers must go up
Number up brain happy
bleak kettle
must get green circle's
turbid ibex
Number go down unfortunately
unreal nova
Number up brain happy
This is why I suffer h40 every week. Mat numbers go up big big.
agile mortar
can you unlock the colors of prison robe your character didn't get from starting by starting another character with the same class and a different crime? Will the clothes transfer over?
blazing jetty
The prison outfit is tied to each individual character
calm shard
can you unlock the colors of prison robe your character didn't get from starting...
personality scourge does p sure
blazing jetty
You can change it using personality scourge
agile mortar
wait so if I use the Scourge, do I lose the old color?
blazing jetty
Yeah, but you can change it back any time
agile mortar
still interesting that it is completely impossible to have more than one color
in a way I feel like that makes them all pretty rare
probably not but like, yknow it feels like it
trim badger
Shhh let me dakka dakka dakka in peace
I know what you mean but this was the easiest thing I've ever done and it should not be this good xddd
atomic void
why ur game orange
trim badger
why ur game orange
Volumetric fog off + Global illumination off on outside maps makes this happen
atomic void
darktide mexico or something
trim badger
It's good fps what can I say
Smooth af
Even during very cancer situations like 5000 Orange + rotten enemies
tall torrent
Volumetric fog off + Global illumination off on outside maps makes this happen
It’s not those 2
It’s smth to do with light shadow atlas
tall torrent
Unless ur insanely GPU bottlenecked it doesn’t make a big difference usually
dense belfry
Perk and blessing suggestions for this?
agile mortar
Unless ur insanely GPU bottlenecked it doesn’t make a big difference usually
wait a sec
insanely GPU bottlenecked?
would not even having a GPU in your PC count as it being bottlenecked?
turbid ibex
Perk and blessing suggestions for this?
just get another one
those stats are not good
you want stability at 60%
dense belfry
Was told that charge rate was dump stat. At the time.
Even now. It charges quite fast.
dense belfry
just get another one
Either way, i'm broke and have to make do with what I have. Even if the stats aren't good enough for havoc (i don't even play that anyway, lol)
tall torrent
wait a sec
insanely GPU bottlenecked?
would not even having a GPU in your PC cou...
Are you using iGPU
hexed arch
what's the best build for a helbore?
dry cloak
but are you a profesional?
hexed arch
is executioner the only viable option for helbore? i never see a helbore build with voc or infil
also i'm already familiar with the guide
sly orchid
Exe is more favourable for the damage buffs
Voc and infiltrate are better for melee builds
hexed arch
doesn't infil also have 30% damage though?
tall torrent
Voc and infiltrate are better for melee builds
Not necessarily
tall torrent
Stun immune + giga toughness/s makes a huge difference
sly orchid
Ill try an exe melee build
tall torrent
doesn't infil also have 30% damage though?
Yea short uptime and ability CD is long
Infil is the weakest of the 3
Stance and VoC are roughly equal
hexed arch
i like voc not because it takes no skill to use but because it gives veteran a support role
trim badger
Unless ur insanely GPU bottlenecked it doesn’t make a big difference usually
I know volumetric fog does
But what would you suggest to change
tall torrent
I know volumetric fog does
But what would you suggest to change
I’ve tried -1 texture setting and setting every light/shadow related thing to lowest/off, it actually just didn’t make a big difference for me
dense belfry
https://youtu.be/Mv9aRrDIlfw?si=92sN7h1u11CqcZvv
How dated is this build?
tall torrent
I’m on 4070ti Super and i7-14700f
sly orchid
How dated is this build?
2 weeks
tall torrent
And I’m cpu bottlenecked in horde
trim badger
is executioner the only viable option for helbore? i never see a helbore build w...
You can just, swap the left keystone for the middle one
Swap exec stance with VoC
And that's it
trim badger
I’ve tried -1 texture setting and setting every light/shadow related thing to lo...
Not exactly answering my question here
What would you suggest to dial back
Like textures I do already have it high except for environment (I kinda like the smooth terrain)
tall torrent
Not exactly answering my question here
I’m telling u to experiment and find out if you’re cpu or gpu bottleneck in the first place and tune from there
wispy sorrel
I mean, I know they're all essentially Rambo, but my headcannon has all Catachan gurd sounding Australian, because everything on their planet is trying to kill them, most of it is poisonous, and they really couldn't care less.
trim badger
I’m telling u to experiment and find out if you’re cpu or gpu bottleneck in the ...
Kay
wispy sorrel
😄
tall torrent
Because what u could have rn is just
wispy sorrel
That just says Australian to me
tall torrent
40% GPU utilization
And still being cpu bottlenecked
So it’s losing all that graphical fidelity and visuals for not much gains
tall torrent
What’s ur GPU
tall torrent
Buddy
trim badger
I STILL DIDN'T CHANGE MUCH GRAPHICS WRAAA
tall torrent
Make a copy of ur current user_settings.config
And delete the file in that original location
Redo ur graphical settings
trim badger
I wanna make sure to hit above 144 on Havoc 40 all the time as well
tall torrent
I wanna make sure to hit above 144 on Havoc 40 all the time as well
If u use FG (even just 2x) it’s not hard
U have super powerful hardware alrdy it should not be a challenge
Unless ur on 4k resolution lol
1440p is definitely doable
dense belfry
https://youtu.be/Mv9aRrDIlfw?si=92sN7h1u11CqcZvv
Would it be a good idea to run the DC sword?
agile mortar
is mobility a good dump stat on revolver?
sly orchid
Preferable on all weapons
tall torrent
is mobility a good dump stat on revolver?
Reload speed
dense belfry
is mobility a good dump stat on revolver?
Are the ultramarines Gary Stu's?
(The answer to both is yes)
unreal nova
And I’m cpu bottlenecked in horde
I managed to get stable 60 after installing the latest Visual C++. I wonder if the one shipped with the game and such are just... heh.
tall torrent
I managed to get stable 60 after installing the latest Visual C++. I wonder if t...
I’ll check it out
What version is it called
unreal nova
And with settings above below low.
unreal nova
What version is it called
Dunno. I just got the latest ones for x64.
tall torrent
14.0.14212.0?
unreal nova
Think is that.
Haven't tested H40, but even in damns with chem 'nades, at 60.
So not really complaining.
dense belfry
They changed marksman focus so you don't have to stand still?
hollow ibex
yup
dense belfry
That's a good change.
dense belfry
Bad pathing?
tall torrent
Bad pathing?
The talents leading up to it are pretty meh
And it’s significantly less damage than going hybrid
hollow ibex
And it’s significantly less damage than going hybrid
give me all the ammo on the map and i'll do more damage 
dense belfry
Shock trooper's pretty good for Holbore.
dense belfry
Worth getting?
fair shale
No
fair shale
You want to dump defenses
dense belfry
Ah, well.
sweet coyote
Recon lasgun builds and perks/blessings on recon lasgun, any protips?
prime wyvern
Recon lasgun builds and perks/blessings on recon lasgun, any protips?
pew pew
tame lodge
Recon lasgun builds and perks/blessings on recon lasgun, any protips?
Aim for the head
Dumdum Infernus
Don't shoot everything
lunar arrow
hollow ibex
carpace/flak?
flak/unyielding/manic + crit chance
recon carapace damage is sad either way
no point building for it
it's not what recon is intended for
agile yew
I know volumetric fog does
But what would you suggest to change
Maybe i should try turning that off, because im 99% GPU and 25% CPU loaded or so usually
hollow ibex
never was because dumdum exists
agile yew
2017 GPU and 2022 CPU is quite generational gap between em
trim badger
Maybe i should try turning that off, because im 99% GPU and 25% CPU loaded or so...
Volumetric fog off gives a lot of fps
agile yew
Gonna test it, if it looks too dog, i might have to still keep it
sweet coyote
Beyond survalist/shock trooper/onslaught, any other nodes a must have?
hollow ibex
onslaught is bad
it's only somewhat useful against crushers
but to begin with, you should be meleeing crushers anyway
shooting them is incredibly inefficient
as for builds, see HOTE guide in the pins
agile yew
Volumetric fog Medium -> Low and FPS went from 65-70 to 67-75 or so? Maybe few higher on average
Cant turn it OFF, no such options
tall torrent
Cant turn it OFF, no such options
It’s possible in user_settings.config
agile yew
Yeah was wondering if such is available, not sure though i wanna go full LEGO mode on graphics
Atmospherics part of the appeal of the game, dont like how some more seasoned players play it so barebones that it looks unappealing
mystic pilot
Volumetric fog Medium -> Low and FPS went from 65-70 to 67-75 or so? Maybe few h...
thanks, I need to remember that
agile yew
Set most things on low and FPS limit on 90, psykhanium is now fine and not hitting 99% on GPU constantly, looks still ok
It must have been Ambient Occlusion Quality on OFF that made it look rough
tall torrent
Set most things on low and FPS limit on 90, psykhanium is now fine and not hitti...
Meat grinder runs significantly better than live matches
tall torrent
In games with high spawn intensity your meat grinder fps could be cut by ~40%
livid hill
Headhunter not a thing on it anymore?
If u can consistently hit headshots and you have infernus and shock trooper its good but perhaps not worth over dumdum
I like headhunter bc more ammos is good
narrow widget
Beyond survalist/shock trooper/onslaught, any other nodes a must have?
onslaught 
trim badger
Cant turn it OFF, no such options
Mods or config
primal zealot
onslaught is bad
onslaught is BASED
hollow ibex
onslaught is BASED
Ogryn main moment
west dirge
This game is hilarious. I played bolt pistol and knoife for 2 days straight, enjoyed it a lot and its actually really good, and then i went back to plasma/ds and was like ah well yeah thats why this is the meta
hollow ibex
I like headhunter bc more ammos is good
Melee more
livid hill
Melee more
See here's the thing, I do melee. I often melee, but when I need gunner or reaper or sniper or trapper dead I really dont like having to reload in the middle of that
patent moth
what should i put on the laz bayonet
tall torrent
what should i put on the laz bayonet
Check pinned guide
primal zealot
what should i put on the laz bayonet
a heretics insidey parts
patent moth
a heretics insidey parts
correct
patent moth
Check pinned guide
i would 🥺 🥺 🥺 rather die😔
primal zealot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396860171541807105/1232138126441582642/mf...
bro do u even know anything about vet ?
tall torrent
bro do u even know anything about vet ?
tall torrent
its coming...
Yea it’s prob gonna take a while lol
livid hill
Do the call out codes mean anything? Ik they designate enemies but like, do they have a system that determines the names or is it just random cool sounding words
tall torrent
Do the call out codes mean anything? Ik they designate enemies but like, do they...
Yes
Check the pinned guide I actually have them listed
grim karma
idk bro this is the first time its shown as "Obtained from commodores vestures" alongside the helmet now has the cadian visor
livid hill
Do the call out codes mean anything? Ik they designate enemies but like, do they...
I do know "minoris" just means minor in high gothic space latin
livid hill
Check the pinned guide I actually have them listed
Really? Yoooo thats sick
grim karma
methinks some1 at fartshart is a cadia enjoyer
livid hill
Love details like that
vagrant dagger
what does traxis mean then
grim karma
could be traitor idk
tall torrent
Traitor? Maybe
patent moth
[Redacted]
yummers
grim karma
u can just google it the ai literally says all of the codes
tall torrent
U should check the helmet lol
patent moth
methinks some1 at fartshart is a cadia enjoyer
its a cool place, that and krieg
tame lodge
Daemonhost being Majoris
tall torrent
methinks some1 at fartshart is a cadia enjoyer
prob full set to be released later
hollow ibex
See here's the thing, I do melee. I often melee, but when I need gunner or reape...
recon las has a big mag capacity, no point taking a dead blessing for something like that
livid hill
Check the pinned guide I actually have them listed
Oh wait the hammer of the emperor? Thats not what I meant sorry, I meant like do they have an etymology. Like is there any significance to snipers being "traxis 1"
tall torrent
Oh wait the hammer of the emperor? Thats not what I meant sorry, I meant like do...
oh idk that
I just have what they mean in game listed
vagrant dagger
in the grimdark future they have hollow point lasers
tall torrent
livid hill
recon las has a big mag capacity, no point taking a dead blessing for something ...
When your aim is as poor as I, it matters
hollow ibex
in the grimdark future they have hollow point lasers
in the grimdark future the IRS has guns
livid hill
in the grimdark future they have hollow point lasers
What
vagrant dagger
isn't dumdum an early version of hollow point bullets
and you can put it on a recon lasgun
tall torrent
Correction
Extremis
DH are called either omega-minoris or malefic extremis
professional says omega minoris
livid hill
When your aim is as poor as I, it matters
Yes ik headhunter isnt good for those with poor aim but I think its funny
tall torrent
cutthroat says malefic extremis
livid hill
Maybe cadia has different codes
vagrant dagger
it's a miracle all the rejects even understand each other really
tall torrent
Maybe cadia has different codes
CT reads some codes differently from professional
livid hill
isn't dumdum an early version of hollow point bullets
Oh idk guns very well, maybe?
On a lasgun maybe it just means it causes a bigger explosion on the target? Cause isnt that how lasguns work? They cause a tiny explosion when they hit something?
tame lodge
Like Arby's use Majoris for BoN which is understandable
Then he calls everything else minoris, which is understandable
livid hill
it's a miracle all the rejects even understand each other really
Its so funny to me that loose cannon doesnt know like 90% of the codes but still tries to use them
I wish smokes had more utility because I love hearing loosie say "THINGY, THINGY- SMOKE"
hollow ibex
isn't dumdum an early version of hollow point bullets
huh i didn't know that
interesting
livid hill
Maybe traxis means like, a regular infantry soldier? It seems to mostly designate enemies you see fairly regularly
tall torrent
Maybe traxis means like, a regular infantry soldier? It seems to mostly designat...
Scab captain is also traxis
It prob means traitor
livid hill
Scab captain is also traxis
Well but he's apart of the, like, hierarchy no?
tall torrent
A guy with power sword/maul and void shield is not mere foot soldier
livid hill
Well he's a commander I meant
livid hill
It prob means traitor
Ur probably right....... but the more obvious conclusion is they just wanted them to sound cool and as if they had a nomenclature when they really didnt
turbid ibex
Iirc the enemies that have "traxis" in their callout code are all either scabs or the dreg shotgunners/gunners
livid hill
Iirc the enemies that have "traxis" in their callout code are all either scabs o...
Oh true
tame lodge
Scab Flamer is Traxis
Dreg Flamer is Deltacron
turbid ibex
And dreg gunners 100% share all their callouts with the other "gunner" type elites
Dreg shotgunners have a few unique callouts i think tho
livid hill
So it could just mean like, specifically a guardsman who defected
turbid ibex
But prob quite a few shared with scab shotgunners
livid hill
Idk abt dregs though
Arbites nomenclature is more obvious because everything is sextus-(something)
Sextus might mean like enemy or smthn
patent moth
yummy flames
primal zealot
livid hill
Im stupid and not an actual game balancer but wouldnt many of the problems be fixed by just having fire weapons interact with the cleave system but also just letting them have high cleave
It doesnt make sense that fire can just go through someone like it has mass anyways
hollow ibex
Im stupid and not an actual game balancer but wouldnt many of the problems be fi...
prob
rn weapons and abilities bypassing game systems is really strong
tall torrent
Im stupid and not an actual game balancer but wouldnt many of the problems be fi...
A cleave budget for AOE atks would be a bit jarring
Because unlike ur melee/ranged attacks which have specific direction and hit one thing after another
AOE hits everything at the same time
How do u determine what gets hit first to consume the budget
livid hill
A cleave budget for AOE atks would be a bit jarring
No i mean just flame staff and flamethrower
Ppl complain abt them being op and it makes sense to me now that they literally just ignore something other weapons always have to contend with
tall torrent
No i mean just flame staff and flamethrower
Yea, how do u determine what gets hit first to consume the budget
Let’s say u set 15 cleave budget for flame stream
What happens after it hits 2 maulers
The flame VFX effect still plays but nothing gets hit?
livid hill
What happens after it hits 2 maulers
I mean again i dont know but maybe they could have a horizontal (relative to the player and the stream) zone where cleave is the exact same
Idk how does cleave work for shotguns? Would that be applicable?
tall torrent
Idk how does cleave work for shotguns? Would that be applicable?
Exact same way it does like any other ranged attack
livid hill
Exact same way it does like any other ranged attack
No i mean like, a shotgun can also hit more than one enemy at once. Does it just fundamentally work differently?
hollow ibex
i mean i think it'd work fine
tall torrent
No i mean like, a shotgun can also hit more than one enemy at once. Does it just...
U shoot a raycast that hits enemies then damage apply, after cleave budget is fully expended it won’t hit anything behind
tall torrent
But shotgun is not a continuous VFX like flame
hollow ibex
the only difference is that flamer is continuous
but that shouldn't matter for cleave at all
it's totally irrelevant
just make the fire sputter out
and how it plays is far more important than how it looks
sand carbon
oof havent played my vet in a year, all my old presets have been reset D:
is there anything like the ogrynomicon for vets?
livid hill
But shotgun is not a continuous VFX like flame
How does the weapon work in terms of like, actual damage. Like if you got rid of the fancy effects would it just be a really really fast and wide but otherwise regular gun or would it be something else
tall torrent
How does the weapon work in terms of like, actual damage. Like if you got rid of...
Idk the code there is weird
I personally think flame weapons can be nerfed more easily by reducing the rate at which they apply DOT stacks
hollow ibex
i guess that's fine too
livid hill
just make the fire sputter out
If the issue is vfx yeah you could just figure it out
livid hill
I personally think flame weapons can be nerfed more easily by reducing the rate ...
Lowkey feel like the flame staff should deal significantly less damage than the flamer bc it has infinite ammo
hollow ibex
but then psyker will suffer 😭
livid hill
Easy solution: less carapace
Or make carapace enemies have some sort of weakness you can exploit with a low rending weapon
I once read someone suggesting that carapace armor should be able to be "shot off" of crushers without enough fire that rn would just deflect off of them and I like that a lot bc it lets ppl with high rending weappns like volvo have their fun while also making it physically possible for a low rending weapon to pierce them
Maybe underneath the carapace is like unarmored or something so its like extra easy to hurt
Idk again I'm no game designer but I feel like crushers are a poorly designed enemy........
calm shard
Or make carapace enemies have some sort of weakness you can exploit with a low r...
what like how in vermintide heavy attacks universally went through superheavy armor, and all superheavy armor enemies had a squishier head?
livid hill
Also do people still think exec stance is underpowered? Bc i disagree but i think it'd be cool if you could ping enemies you can see with exec stance thru walls
livid hill
what like how in vermintide heavy attacks universally went through superheavy ar...
Yeah! Like that
calm shard
Also do people still think exec stance is underpowered? Bc i disagree but i thin...
no exe stance is considered on par with VoC right now
livid hill
no exe stance is considered on par with VoC right now
Okay good that other ppl agree
I love exec stance i wont lie
hollow ibex
based
livid hill
what like how in vermintide heavy attacks universally went through superheavy ar...
Crushers feel like they literally only exist to limit your build options :(
calm shard
They can "limit" this dick as I throw a krak grenade at them
livid hill
They can "limit" this dick as I throw a krak grenade at them
Lmao true but I mean what if u dont wanna take kraks all the time? And what if youre a psyker :(
I love psyker
calm shard
oh then I just shoot them with my helbore
or beat them to death with a shovel
or axe them to death with a tactical axe
dry cloak
i think brain rupture should do more damage and bypass armor
calm shard
on psyker I stab them twice with force sword and they disappear
nobody knows what happens to them
livid hill
oh then I just shoot them with my helbore
All I'm saying is that they shouldnt just make certain weapons mostly irrelevant or objectively worse
dry cloak
on psyker I stab them twice with force sword and they *disappear*
gone reduced to atoms
calm shard
if some weapons aren't objectively worse into carapace then what would be the point of running the ones that aren't good into crowds
I don't mind the weapon sandbox too much as is now for melee weapons
The "low tier" melees do still fulfill niches just not the commonly expected ones
livid hill
Also what purpose do crushies serve that isnt already fulfilled by maulers and bulwarks/gen
dry cloak
The "low tier" melees do still fulfill niches just not the *commonly expected* o...
those would be?
remind me
livid hill
if some weapons aren't objectively worse into carapace then what would be the po...
Oh I was more thinking things like braced autogun or shredder autopistol
calm shard
dclaw, chainsword, heavy sword, etc. are all actually pretty good as sidearms for ranged builds
because they have crazy good horde clear, and if you're already using your gun/blitz/whatever to kill armor
you kinda don't feel their bad armor damage
and also pretty good primaries on zealot because fury of the faithful doesn't give a shit what armor the enemy has
and pretty good primaries on hive scum too because they have so much damage it just doesn't matter
livid hill
and also pretty good primaries on zealot because fury of the faithful doesn't gi...
Zealot is lovelt snd also gay for psyker
dry cloak
so many people dismiss those because ,,bad into carapace = bad,,
dry cloak
and also pretty good primaries on zealot because fury of the faithful doesn't gi...
me with dc7 on melee vet with laspitol and shredders
silver patrol
that's because most guns can't deal with carapace
dry cloak
true
calm shard
Dclaw 7 can actually kind of kill carapace
silver patrol
or can at a great ammo cost
calm shard
That parry strikedown combo does far more damage than a weapon with such shit ADMs has any right to be doing
livid hill
so many people dismiss those because ,,bad into carapace = bad,,
I mean the thing is that sometimes on high levels the director throws an absurd amount of crushers specifically at you, so perhaps the solution is just to force it to spawn fewer of them
dry cloak
I mean the thing is that sometimes on high levels the director throws an absurd ...
i lost a bit of my skill. auric became to much if i dont play ogryn
on damnation crusher clown cars dont exist basically
livid hill
And crushers obv block your shots and are a huge target that sorta shields other enemies from your fire (sorta like bulwarks tmu?)
dry cloak
unless its a histg
dry cloak
dclaw, chainsword, heavy sword, etc. are all actually pretty good as ***sidearms...
my friend that play vet religiously, took heavy sword expected it to be decent. started using it as a sidearm and was enamored because in his words ,,why the fuck people hate this weapon the hordeclear is filthy on it,,
livid hill
Like im thinking crushers should also knock other enemies over or kill them when they attack?
And Maybe they should spawn alone*
narrow frost
They do knock over allies
livid hill
my friend that play vet religiously, took heavy sword expected it to be decent. ...
Maybe is becsuse heavy sword is literally just a sword
Not hating, just like
Its not that "coolio"
livid hill
They do knock over allies
Oh okay nvm
narrow frost
They often open bulwarks for me
livid hill
They often open bulwarks for me
That's nice of them :)
dry cloak
Maybe is becsuse heavy sword is literally just a sword
It was a zealot exclusive once upon a time
livid hill
It was a zealot exclusive once upon a time
Oh rlly? Huh
Weird weapon to be exclusive ngl
dry cloak
Oh rlly? Huh
So was dueling sword
But to psyker
Unlocked and loaded brought a lot of changes
hollow ibex
"got it, buffing dclaw parry" - fatshart
gentle lake
turbid ibex
Only 2 more levels and ill have my vet at level 30
faint beacon
Personally I think they should tone down the Flak damage on Devils Claw
its a bit too much
turbid ibex
I think they should tone down your damage vs flak
hexed arch
which helbore mark should i take
dry cloak
which helbore mark should i take
The one that feels best to use for you
Because its a simple trade off between power and speed
mystic pilot
which helbore mark should i take
check the pinned guide because it describe each mark
V is the fastest firing (but lower damage per shot)
IIIa is middle ground
IV is the slowest but most damage per shot
V may be the fastest firing but it only beat out IIIa by 12 shots per minutes on the fire rate
hollow ibex
ok but mk5 can do this
outside of havoc, idk if there's much of a point to using mk3
void dragon
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1395862442566877266...
Reasons why i feel Helbore is a better inf Lasgun:
fair shale
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1395862442566877266...
Is that the weapon skin that makes the irons decent?
fair shale
Thanks
mystic pilot
Is that the weapon skin that makes the irons decent?
no. The legacy of vraks give the helbore a hooded front sight
fair shale
I don't like DTs hooded sight
mystic pilot
at least there are mods that can give you sights and scopes you want on your guns
I kinda want american springfield m1903 rifle iron sights on it just so something american is included in the Krieg aesthetic 😛
primal zealot
i like to think the mechanicum has a handful of 20th century or earlier weapons hidden deep in some vault that they worship as archaeotech
mystic pilot
the whole aethestic of the Death Krops of Krieg is WW1
they have elements from German, British, and French gear/outfit
primal zealot
yea but its all relatively new gear. im talking about truly ancient relics
brave acorn
Impressive
umbral scaffold
I thought I was just bad for not chaining headshots with those guns, but I guess it just really is a bit of a gun thing
Do you like the sights on it?
brave acorn
I thought I was just bad for not chaining headshots with those guns, but I guess...
Helbore needs to chain hits for weight of fire but I didn’t think that applied to inf las
umbral scaffold
I don't think it has the blessing
brave acorn
Were you just talking about making quick follow up shots then?
umbral scaffold
Yeah
brave acorn
Well we know how bad lasgun is with recoil. Exe stance is really working for him there
tall torrent
Well we know how bad lasgun is with recoil. Exe stance is really working for him...
it's quite low recoil
they just made inf las have high visual recoil
but it's just that, visual
it does not translate into actual recoil
brave acorn
they just made inf las have high visual recoil
So the follow up shots are more on target than the movement would suggest?
tall torrent
So the follow up shots are more on target than the movement would suggest?
yea u can shoot at a wall and see this for urself
the only variant with actually noticeable recoil is mk2b and it's still very controllable
hollow ibex
the visual recoil feels really bad tho
turbid ibex
the visual recoil feels really bad tho
with the way it moves you'd think youre firing a 50 cal or something
not a fucking laser gun
specially with how the other lasguns stand almost completely still while firing
https://youtu.be/OfTKZFKuwZ4?t=9 like seriously look at that hipfire recoil
wheat stratus
do you have to take the bolt pistol out for Lethal Proximity to increase nade radius?
inland trout
i cannot for the life of me figure out how to make shotguns feel...effective
hollow ibex
combat shotguns can be built to work with your typical weapon specialist build
they're finesse weapons except the accatran
which is just a shit weapon
you can build combat shotguns for single target damage or multi target damage
inland trout
you're telling me shotguns are more of a WEAKSPOT weapons???
inland trout
so thats why they feel like shit
inland trout
i'm guessing infiltrator is not a optimal choice for shotguns
umbral scaffold
Infiltrator is more for the utility than the damage bonus, I'd say
Thoughness refill, drops aggro, movement speed, suppression when reappearing, makes revives easier
slender elm
Damage boost on grenade
inland trout
well, what blessings are recommended for combat shotguns on a executioners stance build
hollow ibex
depends
do you want to focus on multi target damage or single target?
single target it's full bore no respite
multi target it's manstopper + fullbore/deathspitter prob
inland trout
Multi, sweep the room of ranged infantry
slender elm
Is ws better in this case
slender elm
I mean he's relying on manstopper here
mystic pilot
yea u can shoot at a wall and see this for urself
Its really noticeable on recon lasgun. Visual is more wilder than actual recoil
hollow ibex
I mean he's relying on manstopper here
i run both deadshot and WS on some builds yeah
more crit is obviously helpful
midnight totem
having a hard time deciding between the agrippina autogun or the braced agrippina for my melee stealth vet
Been experimenting with a buncha weapons in mid havoc and auric, mostly for the purpose of killing walls of gunners and specials
hollow ibex
braced auto is terrible on infil
actually it's terrible in general
but a bit less terrible with exec stance
umbral scaffold
I can't speak for the others, but the braced one felt awful to hit anything with, and bracing had this awkward delay where I couldn't fire
Meanwhile, the infantry one can ADS and the hipfire is still pretty decent, at the downside of being a finesse weapon
Though I didn't like the braced's body damage anyway, so I guess both are mean to click heads
hollow ibex
braced is meant for body shots really
it has like no finesse
and horrible accuracy
orchid hemlock
having a hard time deciding between the agrippina autogun or the braced agrippin...
Brother just put on the DB
midnight totem
I like the double barrel, but I need to kill snipers
Eh, was testing out the graia autogun
Not enough body penetration, and agrippina has a bit too much horizontal kick
Guess its back to the revolver for me
steep pier
On zealot when I run db i always run chaxe
steep pier
With stealth bolt gun is decent
narrow frost
you can kill them from any range, in auric dont even need a crit, havoc you do
midnight totem
narrow frost
min pellet count moment
midnight totem
Haha, nice
Nah, double barrel isn't this vet's style. I only run it on my other vet
void dragon
Genuinely i feel my brain is eroding, i ask people to slow down so someone can give me cover fire to advance and they are like "you are the only one who is behind". YES IM BEHIND BECAUSE THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF SPECIALS NO ONE WANTS TO LOOK BEHIND YOU JERKS! worse is that they aready died in the process of rushing but we managed to stabilize but the moment i die they die from all the specials i was killing WHAT A SURPRISE!!
"stop making excuses" they say, i feel so done...
primal zealot
my whole philosophy of combat essentially boils down to leading the charge. very ogrynbrained i know but ideally i dont see much of the rest of the team
cant get farted on by those special spawns behind if ur all the way in front
also like there is the possibility that ur causing more to spawn by hanging too far back
but i know that feel bro
void dragon
im quite the opposite, i have the urge to look behind and make sure everyone is moving forward without a jerk trapper behind them
its quite hard to advance when 3 muties are charging you and you have to dodge them while shooting a sniper line
primal zealot
theres only like 3 weapons that get turned on
well i guess theres the folding shovels
tall torrent
theres only like 3 weapons that get turned on
no I mean
actually detailed numbers
dmg & stagger values across cleave distribution
and finesse curve
and attack ADMs
tall torrent
it would take very substantial time & effort to make this in the first place
and it'd be a nightmare to maintain
even tho I think this is actually all useful detail
no
still dove
thx
hollow ibex
even tho I think this is actually all useful detail
yeah
but i wonder if at a certain point
it's easier to just make an app that parses the source code lmfao
tall torrent
it's easier to just make an app that parses the source code lmfao
I mean I could feed it to AI and have it compile for me
the calculations are not complicated
it's figuring stuff out and verifying them to be right that takes a lot of time
hearty snow
hoow to make laspistol not suck ass?
tall torrent
hoow to make laspistol not suck ass?
don't take gunfights past 25m, hipfire, click heads, be lucky with crit
and use mk2 (better variant)
check pinned guide for more info
hollow ibex
it's either the server being a cunt, or teammates being cunts
void dragon
what's the best keystone for the Spear bolter? MMF or Focus target?
hollow ibex
this game really is just fucking shit
dry cloak
what's the best keystone for the Spear bolter? MMF or Focus target?
realistically depends if you use it as a sniper or magdump machine
void dragon
it's either the server being a cunt, or teammates being cunts
the first skip was justified due sniper, but the second felt personal
dry cloak
i use it with mmf
hollow ibex
the first skip was justified due sniper, but the second felt personal
yeah there was no reason really
besides the arbi player being a cunt
void dragon
imo the biggest cunts are those that blame you for doing your job with 0 protection as the main anti disabler
tall torrent
what's the best keystone for the Spear bolter? MMF or Focus target?
FT imo
atomic void
it's either the server being a cunt, or teammates being cunts
💀
report him for griefing cause wtf
hollow ibex
it's fine, i gave him shit
i don't report for griefing unless it's really bad
like a pair of guys teabagging me for no reason
instead of rezzing me
narrow frost
depending on context if someone spam tags their down/netted body I ignore them
hollow ibex
i only spam when the team is blind and deaf
or in this case, purposely being a cunt
i'm good about picking trapped people up quickly if i'm around them
and i understand pubbies are pubbies
but willfully ignoring me? fuck you
tidal fox
honestly most public game teammates won't go out of their way to save you if you arent within 10m of them
dunno why
it just be like that
hollow ibex
yeah i get that
tidal fox
sometimes da team do be blind and deaf
hollow ibex
and that's why i chain ping too
because i know half the time pubbies just aren't paying attention lol
tidal fox
yell into the mic
primal zealot
id get banned before the end of the mission if i left my mic on
willow rain
it's either the server being a cunt, or teammates being cunts
You are a better person than I, my ass woulda left staying in a trap that long
agile mortar
what does Fully Loaded actually do?
it's a little vague
willow rain
What's it say
agile mortar
ye
opal hazel
yell into the mic
This works for me, specially I'm in apac, screaming in English then someone says, no English! Epic... 🤣
charred halo
what blessings on heavy laspistol
tall torrent
what blessings on heavy laspistol
Check pinned guide
molten igloo
it's what's in the grimoires
willow rain
it's what's in the grimoires
The lusty terminid maid vol 3
molten igloo
unreal nova
This works for me, specially I'm in apac, screaming in English then someone says...
Just classic APAC things, people play worse than the bots at times.
opal hazel
Yep and it feels more rewarding if you get to finish a run with those team mates 🤣
unreal nova
Yep and it feels more rewarding if you get to finish a run with those team mates...
At times, after picking them up so many times. Like, even when they fight to double dip your medicae.
slender elm
i keep getting fucking idiots trying to save the guy who woke a daemonhost or is miles away getting eaten
slender elm
again
fucking ogryn taking a stroll through the torrent and the other players keep running back
slim pagoda
sop whats the go to h40 build nowadays
cause it sure as hell aint plasma gun can tell u that much
unreal nova
its plasma
Or Hellbore.
slim pagoda
if thats the case vet is the weakest class now
slender elm
more or less
slim pagoda
its a waste of amo shooting plasma at rotten armor
slender elm
no shit lmao
slim pagoda
like what were they thinking
silver patrol
that's just rotten armor tho
slim pagoda
80% of matches
tame lodge
if thats the case vet is the weakest class now
Top2 class
Just go bomber build against rotten
tame granite
yeah why shoot when infinity kraks
slender elm
SHREDDER
kindred shore
https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-meme-robert-pattinson-suit-meme-my-hon...
my reaction as zealot when i get overheaded by 10 crushers to 1 hp
slim pagoda
yeah i get the feeling shredder is the only option
tame lodge
The only downside is that you need to use one of those shit ass uncanny Strike weapons
Instead of the almighty power sword
tame lodge
The only downside is that you need to use one of those shit ass uncanny Strike w...
And also Bistol
slim pagoda
ive never used DS in my life never will
unreal nova
SHREDDER AND FRAGS ARE THE SAME THING.
dry cloak
SHREDDER AND FRAGS ARE THE SAME THING.
nope
slim pagoda
SHREDDER
dry cloak
shredders are upgraded frags
unreal nova
shredders are upgraded frags
They refer to the same thing.
dry cloak
sorry needed to spite you
unreal nova
Nobody talks about default blitzes.
dry cloak
i know
unreal nova
Unless is like, which class has the worst starters.
dry cloak
ogryn
tame lodge
SHREDDER AND FRAGS ARE THE SAME THING.
Me changing the context from shredder grenades to Shredder Auto Pistol because I'm bored
unreal nova
Me changing the context from shredder grenades to Shredder Auto Pistol because I...
You are asking for a shiv to the face.
slender elm
and a rock
still dove
thoughts on devils claw sword?
unreal nova
thoughts on devils claw sword?
Needs better adm/ap.
still dove
Thank you
agile yew
Nobody talks about default blitzes.
If only they were unique and youd have connection to bypass 3 choices for different ones, so basicly all classes would then get 4 unique blitz
Now the starting blitzes are just like... play 1h when you start class and never again
still dove
i like the power falcon
still dove
i can't really tell, i just started using it last night
but i'll just say it pairs well with a WS shotgun build
hearty panther
considering it was intended to be something of a sidegrade to the power sword its uhhhhhh definitely not that
but the psword has been busted strong for fucking ever so idk
still dove
yea that sword is cracked lmao
i would use it on my combat shotgun build but i want to switch things up
marsh condor
Haymaker on Combat Knife feels underrated to me, for some reason.
hollow ibex
It’s a meme
tough nova
Meme is the accurate rating
marsh condor
What, the Haymaker thing?
tough nova
Yah
marsh condor
Ok.
I basically bought a trinket specifically for this knife with the RNG insta-kill.
tough nova
It has no effect on some of the most dangerous enemies
marsh condor
Even if said insta-kill's restricted to human-sized enemies, which I am aware of.
That's why I'm using this knife on a build that's otherwise largely built for killing Ogryns and bosses.
void dragon
question: what value is going for flak on the bolter over caparace or unyeling? what breakpoint is reached with it?
tall torrent
question: what value is going for flak on the bolter over caparace or unyeling? ...
gunner, scab rager
carapace doesn't change it that much (4 headshots to kill crusher in auric) and u usually don't want to spend ammo on crushers with it
unyielding is monster dps (can't actually reach reaper 1 taps reliably)
dark bloom
ello m8s
my vet never shout THERE IS ONLY WAR
why? is there some condition in person then create?
tidal fox
yes the personality
the personality you choose changes your interactions
the one youre thinking off needs to have Cadia as his birthplace
turbid ibex
ello m8s
my vet never shout THERE IS ONLY WAR
why? is there some condition in pe...
which personality did you pick for your vet?
umbral scaffold
Zarona gains 2 extra pellets when shooting unyielding targets with ADS.
Do we just materialize pellets against one enemy type specifically while aiming?
umbral scaffold
Horde magdump confirmed, all the ammo tins are now mine
faint beacon
Acca just being proved it’s dogshit via spread sheet 🥀
hollow ibex
well fatshart prob balanced around spreadsheet stats
on the assumption that people have a 0% weakspot rate
because if you view it that way
the balance kinda makes sense
amber mortar
what are good guns on vet now ? i heard that auto guns are poop now
faint beacon
Vigilants are incredible