veteran-class

[vestal widget]

i'm like 65% sure it still affects zealot knives right

bcuz they are thrown as an offhand rather than a swap weapon?

[silver patrol]

it affects all grenades as long as you switched from your melee i think

[unreal nova]

I guess it was still affects DoTs only.

[silver patrol]

not sure

[vestal widget]

ah yeah it still works with throwing knives

[unreal nova]

I wonder how it's coded then.

[vestal widget]

i thiiink a lot of / some weps changed to reading buffs from moment when projectile is fired

[unreal nova]

Are throwing knives just ranged and melee blitz then?

[vestal widget]

and blessings may depend on if weapons are equipped, but honestly i don't code dive so my grasp on mechanics is shaky and intuitive

[unreal nova]

I would just say, fatshark things.

[vestal widget]

but i know they removed "throw assail -> swap to revolver/uncanny melee -> chunk crusher for massive dmg" bcuz it used to be the gunker thing

and that was their solution to the problem

so my intuition is something like

projectiles checked buffs when fired instead of when hit
and dots don't

and throwing knives thrown while you had melee out inherited melee wep buffs (uncanny knives)
and while ranged inherited ranged wep buffs (railgun shotgun knives)

[unreal nova]

Grenades seems to be the same. Kills done count towards the weapon type you have for WS.

[vestal widget]

that's different to whether they get buffs from the weapon blesses tho

actually reading kuli's guide since i'm curious and it looks like frags and kraks don't inherit weapon buffs (make sense since you have to switch weps to use them), but frag bleed reads your current weapon buffs since it's a dot

[unreal nova]

As in, damage kill type.

[unreal nova]

Also, I find it funny blinders act like throwing knoifes.

[lyric path]

wtf

[serene pawn]

I do not know if to reinstal or not darktide

[silver patrol]

we don't know either

[tall torrent]

huh

[tall torrent]

no

havoc is meant to be VT2 modded

auric is meant to be VT2 cataclysm

[lyric path]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-nani-gif-25387499

[tall torrent]

yea

havoc is designed to be the VT2 modded difficulty equivalent

[lyric path]

Power falchion is mid but fuck I can’t put the blasted thing down when she works she works

[tall torrent]

yea for 20s

[lyric path]

Yep hence the love hate relationship

Gonna be real tempted to take the overload blessing

[agile mortar]

what trinkets should I be taking on Vet

[tall torrent]

check pinned guide’s example builds for veteran

[scarlet pebble]

what are the best blessings for the infantry autogun

[orchid hemlock]

What's your favorite curios now?

[orchid hemlock]

Dumdum/deathspitter

[mystic pilot]

pinned guide explain all

Dum Dum best, then for second blessing deathspitter or sustained fire

or speedload instead

[scarlet pebble]

dum dum just helps melee stuff right

[tall torrent]

toughness + stamina + health
3x toughness
2x gunner
2x health
2x revive/docket

I wish they made block cost curio perk better (from 12% to 20%)

[mystic pilot]

like I said

pinned guide explain all

[orchid hemlock]

Dumdum just increases your damage every time you hit something with the weapon

[orchid hemlock]

Why does everyone think revive is the new best perk?

[orchid hemlock]

Back in my day 👵🏻

Everyone took stamina Regen

[mystic pilot]

Not just melee, new player

[tall torrent]

I run docket for auric

stam regen also good

I rly wish they made block cost better tho, it would change curio meta a lot

[orchid hemlock]

Yes I know you are loot goblin
But why does everyone take revive now?

Not just vet but every class

[mystic pilot]

I guess they dont want to waste time on reviving because everything is happening fast and a landed hit interrupt reviving

at least that might be their reasoning

[orchid hemlock]

I'm assuming that it's because in havoc, that extra second could be the difference of a wipe or clutch

But it's just that I never really noticed it for soo long in Aurics Maels

[mystic pilot]

Hey Path, what build does the las pistol goes well with?

[orchid hemlock]

Health I have also noticed is spiking in priority due to health scaling better in havoc than toughness

[tall torrent]

it's not an extra second

[tall torrent]

basically everything

[orchid hemlock]

I was exaggerating

I don't know the exact time

[orchid hemlock]

Idk what melee weapon you are using

But I assume something is like this should be on

[tall torrent]

2 saves ~0.58s off a revive
3 saves ~0.8s off a revive

as for net the difference is like at best 0.2s

man I wish block cost curio perk was good

[scarlet pebble]

Does the deathspitter blessing on the infantry autogun only help with melee damage? (its a strength boost)

[tall torrent]

wdym only help with melee damage

[scarlet pebble]

what does strength do

i just assumed its increased meleed damage

[tall torrent]

look at the pinned guide

[mystic pilot]

you could just use one of the builds' name in the pinned guide

[mystic pilot]

we have been telling you

pinned guides in "Pin" at top of this channel, explain it all

I didn't pull those screen caps out of my bum

😛

[scarlet pebble]

ok i get it

[mystic pilot]

its also featured on the launcher

[calm shard]

hopefully this will result in the most played class being less BAD

[void dragon]

Has someone run Shroudfield with Blazing Piety? Would want to know what weapons work best for such combination, feel that stuff like knife prefer Inexorable Judgement because knife already crit ok and the added damage helps to land 100-0 crusher backstabs

[dry cloak]

those dont really combo well

shroudfield really like IJ

both fotf and book can run any keystone

[scarlet pebble]

what blessing besides brutal momentum should i run on the combat axe?

[dry cloak]

head taker

[hybrid plover]

Ye. Blazing Piety is not really a good complement for Shroudfield

You're better off with Martyr or IJ as said before.

[clever crest]

felinid class when....

[foggy linden]

melee only veteran is the way

never let em know your next move

[void dragon]

I tried to will it in the form of the Hscum, so it's probably the closest we will get until ObeseFish decides to give us a cat ears cosmetic

[clever crest]

brass knuckles on veteran?

just wrestle the cultists

[void dragon]

Power fist for your Helboy cosplay

[clever crest]

fuckin piledriver the ragers

[clever crest]

cat tail fit when

[void dragon]

When ObeseFish decides to make easy money with some pants cosmetics

[clever crest]

not even unique ones, just the same old pants cosmetics with a tail slapped on

same price

[void dragon]

Indeed, they even can claim deniability by putting it like it's a belt and naming it something like "abhuman fatigues"

[foggy linden]

BASH the heretics into submission

[void dragon]

Ogryn: Oi, krumping them is me job

[foggy linden]

not if I dont krump them first

[void dragon]

Wha-no! Me want to pull em legs first! *Charge ahead to krump good

[narrow frost]

@mellow folio

[hearty snow]

are there any other horde clearing weapons as good as the power sword

[narrow frost]

no

nothing can compare to Psword

[void dragon]

Because is BUSTED

[narrow frost]

some things that can do horde clear is combat axe, tactial axe, heavy sword, double barrel

[void dragon]

It's not an issue that is slow if it can cut down and stagger anything in its path

Taxe push attack heavy is a good tool for self defense and horde clear with low investments

Heavy sword swarm cutting is quite good even if it doesn't deal with caparace that well

[hearty snow]

aaauuuggggghhhhhhhhh

but i already fucking perfected the power sword

whats the second bestthen

[void dragon]

Taxe, Rashad combat axe and knife are all quite solid melee options

[clever crest]

I reeaaaally enjoy the power falcion

It's pretty powerful

[hearty snow]

actually tbh is it even that important to give a fuck about whats good or not (at least when considering the broad strokes for build making)

[void dragon]

But oddly it's weaker than Rashad, where you would expect it to perform better while active

[hearty snow]

i've always wanted to use the chainsword for weaponspec build

[clever crest]

no idea what rashad is

[hollow ibex]

caxe

[clever crest]

i normally HATE the axes, they're so slow

[void dragon]

Chsword is good to clear swarms to support a gun that is strong against elites, since it can cut down swarms effectively

[hollow ibex]

caxes are quite slow yeah

but rashad hits like a truck

[void dragon]

Rashad makes you feel like you are playing fair Psword, it has quite solid power for each slow hit, but needs an specific setup on blessings and perks

[serene pawn]

What do you guys think is your veteran favorit food

I like to belive that my guy like soseges caz he is a deth korps of krieg

[void dragon]

For my veteran If it was stolen it is automatically as tasty as noble food, even if it's a roasted rat

[calm shard]

sausages aren't french?

[serene pawn]

Man how to know that

Is just food

Food is not own by a contry

Food is food

Respect food eat food

Be happy

Be you

[serene pawn]

💪

[serene pawn]

Btw cool profile pic

[void dragon]

"The best stuff are those that you stole yourself, like this commissar hat and coat I own since that karker got 'marthyred' in the frontline"

[serene pawn]

Stolen>buying

[tame lodge]

Pickaxe

(even then it is still inferior)

[silver patrol]

desperado boltpistol

oh wait wrong chat

heavy sword maybe

[hearty snow]

ogryn accidentally walked in the vet break room (they're correct of course)

[unreal nova]

The stuff she shares around. Imperfect near perfect fruits. Totally legitimately sourced.

[lyric path]

i am truly hurting for diamant

[turbid ibex]

No you fucking arent

[lyric path]

you new to darktide?

[turbid ibex]

no

i just fucking suffer

[brave acorn]

Blew all mine leveling an arbitrator and zealot from zero

[scarlet pebble]

is the vrak infantry autogun and mk 3 combat axe a good combo 🤔

[hollow ibex]

both are strong meta options so yeah

[unreal nova]

Funny thing is, I run that combo on ganger.

[hollow ibex]

i guess that combo works in every class actually

except ogryn

for obvious reasons

[unreal nova]

And Arby, think they don't get sharp weapons.

[hollow ibex]

arbi gets rashad

and IAG

they don't get blades

axes ok

[unreal nova]

Oh right, they have tacaxe.

[unreal nova]

Still funny though.

[scarlet pebble]

whats the point of the axe special hit uppercut thing

[orchid hemlock]

Yes

[frigid kite]

Duelling Sword or Power Falchion?

[silver patrol]

Duelling sword

[frigid kite]

ty

[full kayak]

man, it is wild that the heaviest version of the lasgun is worse than the lightest version of the laspistol

genuinely feels like it might be the worst weapon in the game

[narrow widget]

helbore?

helbore is good

[full kayak]

nah, talking about the kantrael

hellbore is probably my favourite weapon

the hotshot lasgun has been among us this entire time

and it is called the hellbore

I forget that it's technically also just a lasgun

[turbid ibex]

Isnt hotshot like an lmg

[tepid otter]

theres some variants to it afaik, the one the scab gunners use definitely act like one imo

[orchid hemlock]

Neither

[full kayak]

lots of shared words for a lot of fairly different weapons

[frigid kite]

which?

[turbid ibex]

Power sword

[drowsy perch]

yea i wish we could like convert plasteel into other materials cause i got way too much plasteel

[valid dove]

how do yall get on ovwerwatch this thing is harder than I feel likeit should be

[calm shard]

oh well I got it back in the day by just playing veteran normally on damnation until I got it

[valid dove]

why damnation?

i'd figure easier on lower difficulties

[spark helm]

More opportunities to get excuses for targets from density. A lot of the higher difficulties can be very easy for getting penances done timesink wise.

[tame lodge]

Dodge

[valid dove]

wdym excuses?

[spark helm]

Excuses to shoot things.

[valid dove]

the penance is take no melee damage

[tame lodge]

Health damage

Specifically

[valid dove]

see I do that, and do really well but I fuck up like last moment

random hound I didnt see, sudden server lag, or mistime a dodge

like

I KNOW

its a skill issue

but

surely there are strategies to make a more optomized run and stuff

like build and map

[spark helm]

Oh you're talking about the one where you don't want to get touched. That one is honestly just playing strong defense. The skill issue thing is whatever. Playing with latency issues, frame rate inconsistencies, etc can make it harder.

Best bet is to be confident and competent with your overall defense, maybe going with a voc build to finesse taking no hp dmg by just giving yourself the overshield that is golden health. I can't remember the names of every map, but I'd consider the one where you have a roaming event in the um...fuck idr the mission.

[ancient nacelle]

finally got this penace aeeeeughh

[valid dove]

i've been running hab dreyko over and over; open and investigate so can go faster, and I do really well up until the phage tree dies and we gotta wait for it to die before we can move

[ancient nacelle]

[spark helm]

It's the one where eventually you gotta pull levers to open doors that lead to the other service tunnels.

[valid dove]

I do play defense but I seem to always end up with my back to a all, out of dodges, and needing to reload

I use the shout thing for knockdown adn overshield

[tame lodge]

Go grenadier build with out for blood then Perma sit at 100% toughness

[spark helm]

I forgot when, where and how I got it but it was just a really really good game for me and I happened to get it there.

Probably years ago atp. Pretty sure I got it around the time I deleted all my characters for funsies

Can't remember what I was running but I do know it was one of my melee-focused voc builds.

[ancient nacelle]

been running with chainsword and bolt pistol

sergeant larp

shits epic

just cutting thru armored enemies with revved up chainsword is so satisfying

[swift river]

Is the Falchion worth it?

[distant plaza]

worth what?

[tame lodge]

It's worth something

Don't expect that something to be worth millions though

[swift river]

Just wondering if I should bother leveling it up, or just stick to my usual melee weapons

[tribal dawn]

You can always sacrifice other weapons to hadron to level up a weapon you don't like

[swift river]

True!

I wanted to make a Cadian Captain build. But since we lack a power fist in this game, I was gonna go the Falchion to try and match the look, but I know it's not the best weapon right now...

Or Castellan, I should say

[hollow ibex]

i like it as a ranged build sidearm

if you want something that's not taxe

and has higher dps

[snow sonnet]

any good shroudfield builds? Some ive tried already feel weak

[hollow ibex]

pinned HOTE guide has one

i don't like shrouldfield tho

[snow sonnet]

idk it just feels really limited and the only pro is boss dmg sometimes

which in that case just use boltgun

[hollow ibex]

it's good for deleting elites too

i just think it's a lot of work

when you could just be using fury

[snow sonnet]

a lot of work and not that often

i get to kill like 1 ogryn every however seconds?

also wrong channel

[void dragon]

is there ANY reason you would pick Dclaw over Taxe? the weapon feel SOOO much better and can deal with caparace on top

[turbid ibex]

funny parry

thats about it

[hollow ibex]

cool moveset ig

for mk7

[void dragon]

the crits of the weapon at least should enable you to fight caparace, at least!

[tame lodge]

There's no reason to pick both

[steel veldt]

I willl... TRY Dclaw

[steel veldt]

Half toughness restoration

And invisibllity

Can Dclaw parry overheads?

[austere mica]

Yes

You need perfect block or it'll probably break your stamina or get eaten by a poxwalker

[blazing iron]

I like the dclaw on Psyker

Since this is the vet channel, struggle to like the power sword but I heard recently it's all in the push attach?

[austere mica]

Its related

But what do you run on it

[blazing iron]

I dunno it's just considered Meta but I struggle with itm

[void dragon]

Bolony, the Taxe with crits deletes caparace and everything in between, the Dclaw has nothing on that caparcity of similar crit chance

[tame lodge]

Yeah
No reason to pick both

[manic bramble]

do we know yet what the next shop rotation is? I cant remember where I used to see those spoilers but I think it was here?

[void dragon]

Making immense use of me brain i realize the truth of your words: there is no reason for picking both because both are no Ogryn weapons, Ermo they are inferior in every way

that's logic

[tame lodge]

• No we don't know what comes next
• You'll probably find spoilers in #darktide-driptide

[manic bramble]

Oh, thank you maybe it was that channel
I am old and my memory is bad

[steep pier]

why is make every shot count so much easier then marked for death

the no ammo 90% accuracy i did one try and im having trouble with marked for death

its just landing for shots with volley fire with alternate fire active on something but its annoying

[fervent quest]

recon lasgun xii or vraks iag

shoot at boss head

[steep pier]

the thing is you cant miss 1 shot

it has to be consectuvie

[fervent quest]

then don't miss lmao

[steep pier]

well thats easier said then done with how fast people kill stuff

[fervent quest]

I aced veteran and didn't think about this one twice. try mortis? idk

[steep pier]

thats the only issue is actually having stuff alive to do it

ive been lazy about vet

i have ogryn arb scum done

like 3 left on spyker 4 on zealot

and once i complete this penance i will have 2 on vet

[fervent quest]

what other ones on vet?

[steep pier]

let me take a look really quick

killshot ready

adept assassin

[agile yew]

Was gonna ask some returning veteran questions but then figured i could check pinned first and it answered my questions 10 times over indepth 🤷‍♂️

[steep pier]

im a few off on the focus ready ive been doing that one each time i build test

to update my helbore builds

[fervent quest]

just do plasma/weapon specialist

[fervent quest]

literally just run a focus build in mortis

[steep pier]

my focus is already over 250

i just do that to test stuff in heresy or damnation for new ideas for ym main 2 helbore builds

focus is good for deadshot helbore

but that eats stam for high dmg

adept assassin is at 126

zealot only needs unseen assassin havent touched shorud field shockin stuff and the behind enemy lines slodge

completing those 3 triggers the rest of the emp stuff then the last quest and boom maxed zelly

[agile yew]

Is there reason why pinned guide build templates skip this?

[narrow frost]

Ask path

I'd guess his reason is that confirmed kill is just stronger and vet is already strained on points too afford another toughness regen talent

[agile yew]

Yeah, so learning vet training wheel talent then i guess?

[narrow frost]

If you want

[agile yew]

Its true though that vet really lacks talents compared to how many good ones there are to pick... Always Prepared was something you want also as Plasma Gun user i recall?

[agile yew]

Early 2024 i left the game after trying to farm the necessary blessing to make that work (Power Cycler IV i think) for many months

(switched MK after that to finish it)

[serene pawn]

All my gund are red

[tepid otter]

red weapons arent real

[serene pawn]

Yes if you paint them

[tepid otter]

shih, u right

[hexed arch]

ever since i started using the bolt pistol i can't stop

[serene pawn]

Ok ok bolt pistol but boltgun

[hexed arch]

they're both great

but idk i'm more of a pistol guy, plus the animations are godly

i can tell fatshark devs had a lot of fun making some of these weapon animations

[calm shard]

bolt pistol but you could instead use the vigilants that actually kill what they shoot on the first trigger pull more than half the time

[silver patrol]

it's true

more like booo pistol

[hexed arch]

for auric it's fantastic havoc maybe i'd switch to something else

well i mean 99% of veterans use plasma in havoc

[agile yew]

Any generic tips on using Power Sword?

Makes it seem its important to know your combos to get most out of those energised hits without having to constantly energise it

[silver patrol]

no not really

it's not like it has really any combos anyway

you just swing it

[agile yew]

Sounds like just the right amount of combo complexity for my skill level on using combos

Energised lights and heavies for which targets?

[tame lodge]

Never heavy

[agile yew]

Ok, that simplifies it even more then

[blazing jetty]

Assuming you're using the Achlys mark with Power Cycler, the third swing of every second activation is an overhead

[stable socket]

if you still need the penance, the big yellow blob on the back of beast of nurgle is a weakspot. just pop exec stance and magdump it and you will 100% get the penance, i got mine my first match on bolter without realizing it was a thing

[blazing jetty]

Use a heavy attack to avoid that

[agile yew]

Ok so there is actually some complexity for optimal combos

Push Attacks used on power sword?

[stable socket]

yeah the push attack on the mk6 (the stab) is the strongest single target move psword has

[blazing jetty]

Push attack is a stab, and the first light attack after that is an overhead swing

Useful for taking out crushers

[stable socket]

push attack -> light -> light is the standard single target combo

[agile yew]

So for crushers and bosses energised push attack?

[stable socket]

light light light is what you use for everything else if you don't wanna count hits

and yeah psword should only ever be used energized

one caveat to that is maybe if you know you're gonna land a push stab on dog head

i think un-energized will still kill

[agile yew]

Thanks for advise, no wonder i found Power Sword weak when i tried it 2024 as i had only Power Cycler 3 (only 1 energised hit) and tried using heavies

[agile mortar]

what is each mark of shovel good at?

[stable socket]

if you have trouble with horde clear, dodge and activate at the same time cuz when you're swinging at head height, psword should stagger all horde and be relatively safe

[blazing jetty]

You can use heavies if you have enough breathing room

[stable socket]

the folding shovels are good at getting you killed when they stick into armor

[agile mortar]

got it use mark 1

[blazing jetty]

Mark 7 shovel is decent against crowds

[unreal nova]

This is why mk3.

[stable socket]

i don't like heavies on mk6 power sword because the diagonal feels kinda bad, i'd rather just eat the one quicker light overhead and get back to horizontal lights. but if there's no danger then you can do whatever

[unreal nova]

Mk7 will get you killed because the delay is LONG.

[stable socket]

fair enough

for all the song and dance you do on the folding shovels (prolly need to run thrust as well), the armor damage is not as good as power sword

so it just feels kinda rough

[unreal nova]

It is, is why half the weapons still need more buffs.

None even come within 1 tier of the powersword.

[stable socket]

plus sunder means that not only does psword have the best single target, it also has the best horde clear cuz it can cleave carapace unlike every other weapon in vet arsenal

[unreal nova]

Except in mobility.

[stable socket]

there is that

[unreal nova]

Powersword what mobility.

[stable socket]

for roughly a year i thought power sword was good but not great, that's cuz i was using mk3 due to the slight ergonomic benefits over mk6

but the mk6 is a completely different beast

[unreal nova]

And FS wonders why only some weapons are used lul.

[stable socket]

on auric and below i still like rashad+revolver because it's so simple to use

but breakpoint-heavy weapons lose a lot of effectiveness once they can no longer hit breakpoints

[agile yew]

I picked brutal momentum over sunder, should i switch it around?

[stable socket]

both are good

it's personal preference, bromentum is more single target damage when hitting heads but slightly less safety into extremely dense mixed hordes with crushers/maulers in the mix, so you play slightly differently based on which one you have

[unreal nova]

Bromentum is more for below havocs. You want sunder for havocs.

[agile yew]

Ok, Sunder it is then

[unreal nova]

Or scabs mostly melee.

[agile yew]

Because i thought id return to vet once i have farmed 50 havoc wins for black armor

But figured it will feel more of an accomplishment rocking the ugly blues for a while and trying veteran there too to earn its black kit

[unreal nova]

Uhh...

The 50 wins is shared.

I did it on literally 90% zealot.

Got it for all 4 base classes.

[agile yew]

Yeah i know, but would feel cheating just grinding the black cosmetics on hivescum/arbites and then classes who i never did havoc with would get em

So ill enter with blue newbie gear and leave with black set afterwards on vet, more reward system neurons firing

Finished or carapace to flak still?

Guide gave 2 options for the 2nd perk

[unreal nova]

Which means, pick which you are struggling more with.

[agile yew]

Ok ill keep that in mind, i dont know what im struggling with as i have only ever used powersword few times like 2 years ago

But crushers are always worth investing into their removal

[unreal nova]

True. You could play and see. Swapping isn't that oppressively expensive.

[agile yew]

Does that make Power Sword energising faster too?

[unreal nova]

Is just swings faster.

[agile yew]

Ok, trying if i can live without it in favour of more ammo and automatic reload for plasma

[unreal nova]

Basically, just take it and swing it to see if good or not. Personally is nice on slower weapons.

[surreal sentinel]

Works good with Heavy Eviscerator.

[unreal nova]

Still very much a taste thing when you are going hybird and can't afford points.

[surreal sentinel]

Fair enough. What are you running?

[agile yew]

Yeah ill see about it when i get to play later tonight. With kid until goes to sleep so by day i can only theorycraft so ill have build ready to go when its time to play

[hexed arch]

power sword is great but what about the power falchion

[agile yew]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0eb9a87-a475-4a44-bc46-ff1854f9b329/babbys-first-havoc-build

[surreal sentinel]

I don't care for it myself, honestly.

[calm prairie]

falchion has less damage but more quality of life

[agile yew]

Will be trying out this first with ranged focus

[hexed arch]

define quality of life

[calm prairie]

doesn't turn off mid combo if you get hit, better mobility

[unreal nova]

For me, knoife+bistol+frags.

I play melee 'nadier... as a Commissar.

It's funny.

If DC ever gets buffed, would run it.

Fits lore wise with my gal.

[unreal nova]

Yeah, can't hurt to mess around and find what clicks for you.

[calm prairie]

power sword mk6 better overall though, dps is crazy

[unreal nova]

Dueling sword could also work and looks better on the whole Commissar thing.

But knoife goober.

[lyric path]

hey about the power falchion does it require rending strikes or not?

[calm shard]

it does yeah

[hexed arch]

i've been using the shovel exclusively for... well since darktide came out, i'm looking to switch things up but the power sword isn't very appealing to me

[unreal nova]

Too slow and clunky?

[hexed arch]

yep, i wanna focus more on clearing hordes hence the shovel, also because i love krieg

[lyric path]

dont forget it also completely kills your speed with that stupid animation

[hexed arch]

that too

i want something fast and furious

like the movie

[unreal nova]

It's why the one thing it loses on is mobility.

[lyric path]

combat axe maybe?

[lyric path]

at least the power falchion doesn't lose speed hence why i prefer to use it

mid those it might be

[hexed arch]

i was thinking about the knife but it's not really good for anything except running fast

[unreal nova]

It's just mid so, okay in lower diffs.

[unreal nova]

Can crack cara the same as anything with uncanny.

[lyric path]

i play on auric as you know karien as i've said in the past OCE cant find a single blasted havoc match

[blazing iron]

Power Falchion and shovel go hard

[unreal nova]

Is why you join the SEA discord.

There's a bunch of Ocenia players there.

[hexed arch]

once i get a nice roll for the falchion i think i'll start using it

[unreal nova]

Or Big Dom's, I guess... Ask someone else about it.

Though I barely check in the SEA thing. Feels ignored anyway.

[blazing iron]

I like the Falchion with all energy blessings

Go brr

[unreal nova]

At least the EU groups I roll with cares enough.

[lyric path]

im a solo player lol

[unreal nova]

You can party find other servers if you just want to pug.

[blazing iron]

If I had mods I would test builds like that.

[unreal nova]

I think by solo, he meant lone wulf playstyle with pubs.

[blazing iron]

Pubs?

*pubes

Play style with pubes ok I'll stop

[hexed arch]

how is survivalist good when it barely gives any ammo, if i'm in a team full of psykers it's also useless to them, why not take the 7.5 damage bonus

[blazing iron]

I'm thinking that on Hive Scum too

[hexed arch]

hive scum has survivalist?

[blazing iron]

An aura for ammo pickups, everyone gets some in coherence

Is that the vet aura?

[hexed arch]

for veteran it's 1% ammo for every elite or specialist kill every 5 seconds

[blazing iron]

I play everything

Oh yeah screw that

[hexed arch]

so basically you get like a single bullet for killing a big guy

[blazing iron]

The laser one and the aura is better

[hexed arch]

even though i use a weapon with a tiny reserve i still think survivalist is kinda bad

[blazing iron]

Shock trooper and something on the left side aura

What gun ?

[hexed arch]

bolt pistol

base reserve is 80 and a mag is 8

[blazing iron]

Hmm better off with ammo pouch ya got that one?

[hexed arch]

i can't i went with weapon specialist

which is great btw

[blazing iron]

It is indeed

Is that the surgical one?

[unreal nova]

Survivalist is a must in havoc.

[blazing iron]

I'll bring up the skill tree

[unreal nova]

Your ammo pickups barely give anymore.

[lyric path]

here my skill tree some of y'all might think its weird but eh

[unreal nova]

And if you don't literally roll 3 staffkers, you'll run out unless you play only hellbore.

[hexed arch]

weapon specialist for the win

[blazing iron]

Sorry I see now yeah Survivalist is the good aura

[hexed arch]

it's only good for havoc

[blazing iron]

It was the ammo thing so it's good all round

[lyric path]

survivilist use to be stronger

[blazing iron]

Ahh k

Only been playing since around the Arbetis update

[lyric path]

take away that stupid 5 second thing and it will be back to the way she was

[unreal nova]

I feel like it could be lowered to like 3 secs.

With how stupid pickpocket is.

[lyric path]

personally i just want that blasted timer removed

[hexed arch]

i'm wondering if skirmisher is worth it

[unreal nova]

Then it's too OP.

Was the original reason for the CD.

[lyric path]

karien were you here when it had no timer?

[unreal nova]

No, but you would know why it got nerfed.

[lyric path]

yes i do know

[hexed arch]

if you use a lasgun with shock trooper survivalist is pretty bad even in havoc

[lyric path]

every eilte or special kill

[unreal nova]

Basically inf ammo to all.

[lyric path]

1% as we all know it gave back now throw in a fucking shotgunner pack

[unreal nova]

Unless you play on sedation where literally no elites or specials.

[lyric path]

thats basically a free small ammo pack

for the entire team

[unreal nova]

I mean, hellbore doesn't need either. But recon WILL run out.

[lyric path]

fuck i still remember when leave no one behind talent was above infiltrate

and pathed to it

[unreal nova]

It evens out over time if everyone is sticking in coherency.

Or just free if the psyker kills.

[hexed arch]

i love using voc and supporting my team

such an easy talent

[lyric path]

voc is a massive crutch my man

was when they first introduced it still is till this day

[hexed arch]

crutch as in holding you back?

wdym crutch

[lyric path]

lowers the skill ceiling lets just say

[hexed arch]

yeah obviously

that's the point, you only press a button

[agile yew]

Pickpocket makes it kinda obsolete by being so strong

[lyric path]

i mean shout is great and all but i mean lower skill players rely on that shit

[blazing iron]

That's why when I see Hive Scum, Vet's and Psykers I'm thinking "why did I bring an ammo aura along?".

[hexed arch]

true, yet think how useful voc can be when the player is actually good at the game

[unreal nova]

Still nice in an ammo hungry team though.

[hexed arch]

voc can save your entire team

[agile yew]

Yeah its not bad, and the other choices arent that amazing either

[unreal nova]

Why is a nice pick for havoc where any gun users are starved.

There's only enough ammo for 1 person in late havocs.

[agile yew]

Me lastnight when i was running Vraks IAG and they wanted stimm supply to deal with corruption

Without Desperado i ran out like 4-5 times during the mission

Had to zooka into pack of crushers to get ammo back

[unreal nova]

Is havoc basically. I still find it funny with desperado, you pull ammo out of your butt since 0/0.

[agile yew]

Only today realised even Vet has really nice corruption removal, shouldnt be just my duty as hivescum

And zealots too

[unreal nova]

Don't ask me. I always have Field Improv, but requires a med crate.

Zealot is only in havoc. Rather run zealous outside.

[stiff glacier]

Field improv for letting hivescum lug extra bazookas

[agile yew]

Having returned to game recently, i have been mostly just leveling and playing Arbites and Hivescum, so im out of loop with talent changes of new classes and also Havocs are new to me and corruption management

So i didnt even remember Field Improv being a thing and so good for havocs

[stiff glacier]

Ive pretty much just ran vet or psyker in havocs

[unreal nova]

The only time I use the crate is if I'm clutching or we are leaving and everyone is full.

[stiff glacier]

Havent havoc proofed my zealot or arby there yet

[hexed arch]

is field improv absolutely necessary for havoc? after all medpacks are so uncommon

and the grenade part is pretty useless to me

[stiff glacier]

Grenade part can be clutch

[agile yew]

Well only 1 talent and you become massively good support for team in havocs

[hexed arch]

oh it only works if you deploy it?

[agile yew]

Works for whole team

[stiff glacier]

We had run havoc 29 with rotten armour and managed to survive thanks to scum getting bazookas from box i deployed

[unreal nova]

It is. You never know when faster healing or corruption removal can save a run. Also many 'nades.

Even your own if needed.

[stiff glacier]

So far ive run just bolter and chainsword in havoc

[unreal nova]

Rather a vet burn the crate to save a run than not.

[stiff glacier]

And couple times helbore

[hexed arch]

now that i see the actual stats yeah it seems pretty great

[unreal nova]

You just need to be on map. So even in rescue, it counts.

Just not when you got a timer next to your name.

[hexed arch]

i need to get rid of a perk for extra 25 toughness

[agile yew]

https://tenor.com/view/dive-into-money-money-bin-ducktales-scrooge-mcduck-gif-1520915004553762854

Guide by

[unreal nova]

Revive speed is for havocs, lul.

Taking too long to pick up or rescue can be death.

[agile yew]

Im switching my vet to 2x tough 1x hp according to that guide too now, atm 3x tough

[hexed arch]

i need the 4% ability cooldown on all my curios

[unreal nova]

Cos hp minimum. You will insta die to a burster if you lack the hp.

Cos havoc basically lowers hp by like 35%.

[agile yew]

Good i checked my curios

Got better ones here, pre-crafting change

[unreal nova]

And you need at least 51 hp per wound in havoc.

If I remembered right.

Or was it like 81.

Whatever burster damage is.

+1.

More so with how janky bursters are atm.

[agile yew]

New curio setup

[unreal nova]

You don't need havoc to see how buggy they are.

[hexed arch]

there should be a new olympic sport for shoving bursters

also very nice setup

[agile yew]

There was that one video of someone pushing burster for like 3min just to make it kill some friendly psyker spamming inferno

[hexed arch]

probably a veteran

[unreal nova]

People are just arse for clicks, you know that.

[agile yew]

Yeah i dont think its good mentality to have, but either way it was amusing

[hexed arch]

if you want to fuck with other people play a pvp game

btw what's the public opinion on skirmisher

[lyric path]

highly recommended

its free fucking damage

[normal sparrow]

100 damage with 50:50 or 65:35 split depending on distance

Hp damage : corruption

[unreal nova]

Is one thing to leave them to die out of annoyance, is another to purposely kill them.

[agile yew]

Kinda want that as extra safety net, another +25

[unreal nova]

Ah. Why more hp to not accidentally...

[normal sparrow]

Closer distance = more corruption

[unreal nova]

Must have if pathing right. If you aren't sliding, you karked up.

[normal sparrow]

And corruption damage goes first
So if you have <100 max hp you just dies

[unreal nova]

Corruption resist might help with it.

But then you have corruption resist.

[agile yew]

What if....? Id use 2x HP curios and pick another +25 toughness node, max out survivability

[normal sparrow]

Corruption res? In this economy?

[unreal nova]

It's funny on zealot though.

Watch me eat an overhead with until death on cd and only go down.

[agile yew]

Id have 2nd

[normal sparrow]

Or just dont get one in the first place taps head

[unreal nova]

Hey, it happens to ppl on low ping as well. I'm just gambling.

[agile yew]

202To 182Hp -> 218To 213Hp

By going 2x hp 1x toughness and picking extra +25 toughness node

[silver patrol]

is that really maxing survivability tho

[agile yew]

Well yeah, -10% melee speed is the cost

So clearing might be more dangerous as slower

I mean, about to step into Havoc for first time ever with veteran, rather few talents into extra safety than dmg and trying to get better scoreboard numbers

But ill see how it goes and adjust accordingly

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0eb9a87-a475-4a44-bc46-ff1854f9b329/carebear-safety-havoc-build

Gameslantern builds quality in nutshell, veteran who has played 0 havocs, making build for that mode

[stiff glacier]

Man and my build right now has 100 toughness on havoc 30

[agile yew]

Thats psykhanium numbers

[stiff glacier]

Yeah

I really wish psykhanium had settings for havoc ratings

[agile yew]

Yeah would make sense

[stiff glacier]

So icould be sure how much toughness and hp id actually have

[agile yew]

Since there are so important hp/toughness breakpoints apparently higher up

Also, youd wanna see if your Rashad still oneshots that bruiser at H40

Anyways, time to go snow sledding

🛷 ⛄ ❄️

Maybe that Carebear build would need curse resistances too to maximize it?

[unreal nova]

Just -45 toughness from base.

[stiff glacier]

Hp was precentage based right

[unreal nova]

-35% after factoring stuff from memory.

It takes my 314 hp zealot to 245 hp.

[slender elm]

weekend veterans and psykers are such sandbags aaaaa

[unreal nova]

I mean, they are ppl who play like 2-3 hours a week... not lul.

[slender elm]

sigh, whole team falling down and had to be rescued twice, before the fucking servitor tower

i give up on carrying really, too tiresome

[unreal nova]

Is normal. On weekends, including friday, I expect to solo whatever ping I'm on.

[sterile garnet]

@sonic beacon

when you aggro the daemonhost and leave, it swaps aggro to other teamates

die first, then ragequit

so your teamates dont get punished by you

[slender elm]

so if i ragequit while still alive it will fuck up a teammate

good to know

[sterile garnet]

yes

even if you are downed

wait till you are dead

[slender elm]

that's perfect, im going to sicc this shit on bastards like smykers

[sterile garnet]

based

[flint iris]

people say weight of fire is really good on hellbore what do I take with it? Cause Surgical does work against it but

Im so used to taking surgical hot shot or something

people say hellbore dont need crits so

[silver patrol]

surgical

[quick shell]

LOL

“C’mere fucko”

[agile yew]

Imagine if someone had same experience, then switched to psyker to smite the bad teams to victory, and then they get Bleppers who DH disconnects on em

[rough stream]

had a havoc match where someone intentionally dc when they get netted so they‘ll reconnect free

[silver patrol]

that's kinda pathetic but it helps the team at least

[rough stream]

yeah, you could say it was a net-positive

[spark helm]

Meh. Gamer diaper tantrums always disappoint. 100% success rate

Rather someone pull a proactive finesse like that than some lame barrel shit

At least the former is actually trying to succeed.

[hollow ibex]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1qmf5m4/i_swear_i_can_count_on_one_hand_the_amount_of/

fuck tox bombers

all my homies hate tox bombers

[unreal nova]

My EO/stance and sometimes desperado tells tells me they cheat throw from unreachable by player shot locations.

You could try counter lobbing a grenade, but that's about it.

[hollow ibex]

and pox gas blocking outlines because ??

sometimes you have to wait for them to throw and move up

[unreal nova]

They need a nerf, not a buff.

And with borked spawn rates, I saw up to 3 of them at the same time on a normal malice run.

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-just-so-bad-it's-so-bad-ew-panda-it's-just-so-bad-gif-12756154516164019614

[faint beacon]

Utterly justified to waste frags on Tox Bombers

Total Tox Bomber Death

[serene pawn]

Why all the good looking cosmetics are so expensiv

[gilded pike]

greed

[dry cloak]

where do you live

that may influence the price somewhat

[serene pawn]

Glories contry of România

5 euros are 25 lei for me

[hollow ibex]

prob no regional pricing?

[dry cloak]

i have regional pricing in poland

but its fucking stuck on 5to1 ratio

[serene pawn]

This word all about mony want free stuf that I need to work for it

[dry cloak]

some developers lowered prices after a outcry

[serene pawn]

Why is war hammer so expensiv

[dry cloak]

idk

it always was

[serene pawn]

damm to continiu the wars is so expensiv

[hexed arch]

this is the ideal roll for a shovel

and this is the closest i got to it

[hollow ibex]

literally unusable

[hexed arch]

now i have to find another one

thanks fatshark

[serene pawn]

This is my only frend in the game the shovel

The most ameizing thing

[hexed arch]

[tidal fox]

is this class the worst class in the game

[narrow frost]

no

there is no worst

[tidal fox]

what

[narrow frost]

every class has different tools and scenarios that they can do best

pros and cons for each class

[tidal fox]

this one gotta have the most cons tho

[narrow frost]

actually

has some of the most pros

[tidal fox]

outrageous

blasphemy even

[agile yew]

Veteran has been always solid all-arounder

[tidal fox]

i played and maxed out other classes and veteran feels so squishy idk

[narrow frost]

yes vet is squishy

[agile yew]

Shout emperors name harder

[narrow frost]

doesnt mean its bad

[tidal fox]

unless theres an intentional skill floor

thats really high

[narrow frost]

thats true for tide games, the skill floor is pretty high

and some classes (mainly arby) lower this alot with their braindead power

[tidal fox]

no the rest of the classes were easy veteran just feels harder to carry on

probably cause I come from other tide games

[agile yew]

Meanwhile my vet

[narrow frost]

vet is still the squishest even though they can get the highest toughness

its about effective hp

[agile yew]

Noone running that on top of Iron Will?

[narrow frost]

often not worth point investment and its not active when you need it

[tidal fox]

I do have it but I have revolver or boltgun usually cause of precision so it doesn't get value when i actually need it

[narrow frost]

but it does help in long drawn out ranged fights

[agile yew]

Anyways, time to go play my veteran comeback game after almost 2 years

[tidal fox]

for cadia

[agile yew]

Error code 2014 again, some mod?

[agile yew]

When plasma gun heats up, the warm air effect gets pixelated and looks like 90s VGA

[tall torrent]

top 2~3 class

[tidal fox]

according to who

majority?

[serene pawn]

I hate so much nurgel

He stinks

😠

[tame lodge]

Yeah

Graphics card

[tall torrent]

vet has 2nd~3rd highest dmg and kills everything fast, and u can tank a pretty hilarious amount of ranged cuz vet is the highest toughness replenishing class as well

[fair shale]

And vet has PS

Which just removes whatever enemy you'd ask it to in melee

[calm shard]

and vet has helbore

which just removes whatever enemy you'd ask it to in ranged

[hybrid plover]

Or temu purge staff (double barrel)

Which just deletes anything that isn't carapace

[calm shard]

it's more like Ikea purge staff (some assembly required)

[hybrid plover]

Trve

[mortal horizon]

if im NOT running lethal proximaty for grenade aoe, what are the best blessings on boltgun to make it shine best (weapon specialist or maybe focus target build, shout)

deadly accurate + surgical?

or is puncture a bis?

[hollow ibex]

yeah

if you want to really invest in bistl

it's MMF and DA/surgical

bit of a meme tho

[mortal horizon]

MMF?

[hollow ibex]

left keystone

[mortal horizon]

oh marksmans focus

well ya, im not going that hard

im just not playing rotten armor, so i dont think i need lethal proximaty. i susually run lethal prox + puncture

so i want to just make the bistol do more dmg

so i guess surgical / da

[hollow ibex]

it's all or nothing with bistol tbh

you either don't invest in it, or you go all out

[mortal horizon]

is puncture not worth tho?

like da/puncture and just get the da procs off Weapon spec crits

sometimes i feel like puncture gives really nice breakpoints

[tall torrent]

Skip boltpistol and just go revolver

[mortal horizon]

true

guess it just hits harder?

[tall torrent]

Very significantly harder

[mortal horizon]

handcannon surgical?

used to use revolver ton on zealot but havent in a while

is there any room for like, trickshooter, or anything is good to dump bosses?

[agile yew]

Was hoping 15-25 havoc team, instead i got havoc rank 1 team, now going 2 😄

Oh well, comfy to get used to vet again

[mortal horizon]

does the agripinna hip fire revolver model work pretty well for vet? can it shine well as weapon specialist or does it need exe stance/mmf?

[mortal horizon]

tried an exestance build earlier with revolver and just immediately ran out of ammo lol

[silver patrol]

turns out the revolver has ammo issues

it's really something you bring out to kill the special/elite and then go back to melee

[narrow frost]

visual clarity moment

its so bright

[blazing jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/case-oh-caseoh-flash-bang-gif-14288249271888208717

[tall torrent]

No need for hand cannon

[neon current]

GIEF OG REVOLVER SPEEDLOADER

the animation is done already

just use that if you empty all chambers

[turbid ibex]

why not?

[void dragon]

HOLLY MOLLY why is your brightness so HIGH!!!!!! *gets vaporized like a vampire sunbathing

[narrow frost]

its default brightness

[tall torrent]

Doesn’t change the core 1 taps it gets

It’s only relevant for crushers

[turbid ibex]

not even plasma gunners and maulers?

[tall torrent]

U can shoot body

And for veteran the ideal perks are flak + unyielding now

[turbid ibex]

what about zealot

[tall torrent]

U have throwing knife to do everything revolver does

And zealot doesn’t have enough global damage to push revolver breakpoint

So u have to spend a point on anoint in blood

[slender elm]

I take knife when my firearm takes 10 years to draw and 20 years to reload

[serene pawn]

When is this game is going to add frendly space marine

I want to just look at 1

[silver patrol]

i hope they add a space marine you can find in a map

[serene pawn]

See him as a big green armor frendly dud

[silver patrol]

as a corpse

[serene pawn]

🙁

No my baby green armor gaient

[austere mica]

Never

FS has said no marines

[serene pawn]

Ok 🙁

[calm shard]

like the statues?

[scenic lance]

which recon lasgun and which blessings

[silver patrol]

No, just a static corpse on the ground

[calm shard]

T posing got it

[frail bolt]

for bolt pistol, why is reload speed the dump stat?

[calm shard]

it isn't

that thing takes 9 million years to reload

why would you willingly make it slower

[frail bolt]

im lookin at darktide builds and many make the reload speed the dump stat for some reason

[calm shard]

is it games lantern

[frail bolt]

yeah

[calm shard]

because you need to keep in mind anybody can make and post a build there

[orchid hemlock]

No

[calm shard]

regardless of how little they know about the game

[frail bolt]

so what are good blessing for the bolt pistol?

[serene pawn]

Why do you kill babu seals

[calm shard]

well you either barely use the thing and just use it as a stat stick to makes your grenades bigger

in which case lethal proximity+puncture

[orchid hemlock]

Because we must feed

[serene pawn]

You can eat fish

Stop eating babys

Eat adults

[calm shard]

or you're clinically insane and want to actually use the thing in which case deadly accurate+puncture, alongside exe stance+MMF (left keystone)

[orchid hemlock]

Are you saying that fish have less moral value than a seal?

[hexed arch]

finally got itttt

[orchid hemlock]

[calm shard]

also bistol dump stat is collateral

[serene pawn]

Yah

[orchid hemlock]

Blocked

[serene pawn]

What fish

Are we tacking about

[orchid hemlock]

Cod

[serene pawn]

Caz if is justa a fish that stays in a grop is not that hie moral value

[serene pawn]

They look fat

[orchid hemlock]

So are seals

[serene pawn]

You know you can eat what you want I do not why I juje orkas

[orchid hemlock]

I prefer salmon myself

[serene pawn]

Cool cool

My favorit fish is the mahi mahi

Haze beautiful colors

I neever see 1

But I day maby I will

[calm shard]

the humble blue bastard

[serene pawn]

The fish with lips

?

[calm shard]

yeah

[serene pawn]

Yah he look cute

I like his eye

He side eye us

[full kayak]

makes sense if you're using weapon specialist with the reload talent

[frail bolt]

thx

[fair shale]

Tbf it has some of the coolest animations in game, I get wanting to use it

[mellow folio]

how do I change the perks on my gun?

[fair shale]

Go to Hadron, the techpriest

Change perks and change blessings

[mellow folio]

can i don that infinitely on a single gun?>

[fair shale]

Yes

[mellow folio]

yay

so all i need to grind for are the best 60%

right?

[turbid ibex]

yeah

stat distribution is the only part that actually matters

[mellow folio]

is it more efficient to check in with the armory guy every hour or to run some sort of mission to get drops (idk how to farm guns)

[tepid otter]

If theres something you want its better getting it from the armory

they'd be lower quality but youre just gambling for ones that have better stats

[mellow folio]

if i am focusing like the helbore lasgun

i should just be harassing the armory???

that kind of sucks...

[tepid otter]

should be cheap-ish to an extent, but yeah

need some dockets

[mellow folio]

is it possible to find items just by doing some mission?

and how common/uncommon is finding the right 60%?

[tepid otter]

Uhh, its just down to luck so I can't say

and I dont think you can rely on weapons being given every after missions

i didnt have to spend much getting dumpstats on mine tho

[mellow folio]

nice

[tepid otter]

welcome to the grind

[warped drift]

Check shop every hour too

[mystic pilot]

the only handgun that's got reload for dumpstat is quickdraw stub revolver

[frail bolt]

is it cuz the reload is fast?

[mystic pilot]

no, you're using it for one shot hits

with a specific build

you use it on special/elites. It doesn't have enough ammo for anything weaker

[buoyant tulip]

howdy

[tepid otter]

hola

[buoyant tulip]

i came cause i wanted to see peoples voidman armor

i have been scavaging

is not hard to find

[tepid otter]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01JTA6SWH4MA14NYBB72DYJQHZ/2x.webp

[mellow folio]

is it a good idea to spam the "brunts armory" to get the right 60% stat for a gun?

[hollow ibex]

if you have the money

yes

you don't need perfect rolls tho

[mellow folio]

😱

not minmaxing everything???

how could you suggest such heresy

[hollow ibex]

let me see you keep that attitude when rolling for plasma

[mystic pilot]

There's like 2-3 out of the entire arsenal the veteran have that I don't have perfect stats for and i didnt have to roll nearly all of them. They showed up in store or as mission rewards

[tall torrent]

I think I'll add a mod list in guide maybe

[hearty snow]

tbh minmaxxing isn't that bad in this game

[fair shale]

The only class with insane minmax is psyker ime.

[hearty snow]

the only things i see that are annoying to work for are curios (which aren't that heavily to be at 430 apparently)

[fair shale]

Vet has like, a gun that wants particular stats(plasma)

[hearty snow]

weapons can be bought at 360-380 at the armory and easily built up to 500 from there

or just bought outright at melkor

[hollow ibex]

those power scores don't matter really

it's just the weapon max stats that matter

[fair shale]

Assuming milk will even sell you a good gun

[hearty snow]

everythings at 500 when you're at 30

atp you just need to find the weapon you're looking for

[slate karma]

Is an all 80% weapon even possible i wonder

[narrow frost]

no

380 stat total is max

[cunning sandal]

Drip or dry?

[tall torrent]

the clipping ruins an otherwise good fit

I wish they gave this torso cosmetic gloves on both hands

[agile mortar]

wait a sec there's robo legs?

[tropic halo]

yes

there few cosmetics with prothetic legs

no arms though sad

[woven oak]

Is there any downside to using the plasma gun special to lower heat?

Doesn't seem like it, but I don't play enough vet to know

[distant mural]

I think u loose some tghnss

[woven oak]

It's like 10 toughness or summat

Pretty minimal

[distant mural]

Yeah thats about it.

[woven oak]

Rad.

[distant mural]

I just cant get around the plasma gun.

[woven oak]

I'm trying to like it

[distant mural]

Same its just so weird.

[woven oak]

But I can't aim well enough to make it work for me in H40

And when I feel like it's aimed properly, I end up missing

[distant mural]

Like i know its powerfull but somehow it doesnt feel like it

[woven oak]

Yeah, I feel the same

I watch a really good vet and I'm like, "I wanna do that!"

Then I try it myself

[distant mural]

Yeah same.

[tropic halo]

chip toughness damage

[woven oak]

So pretty minimal. I just need to stop defaulting to pressing R to lower heat. Psyker brain.

[distant mural]

It might be because plasma also needs very specific dump stats that i didnt get yet.

[woven oak]

eh, I have the proper stats. Is just a skill issue for me

I'm bad at aiming and bad at recognizing specials in a crowd

[distant mural]

Not sure how much difference it makes tbh

[woven oak]

I think one extra shot before needing to cool

9 instead of 8

[distant mural]

Ah thats not that much

I might try it again later

Havent touched vet in a while

[woven oak]

and the cycle continues

posted again for emphasis

[distant mural]

Eventually the milk will turn to butter.

[woven oak]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/253

Debating getting this to give plasma a better crosshair

[cunning sandal]

You just lose a bit of Toughness; shouldn't matter much if you have Confirmed Kill

[woven oak]

The real downside is that it encourages me to shoot too much and run out of ammo.

[cunning sandal]

Yeah, the fact that half of Plasma’s ammo is in its magazine and the other half in reserve really does hurt the ammo pick up, but that’s fine considering how strong it is.

I’d use Plasma Gun more if Bolter didn’t just feel better to me.

[woven oak]

I'm debating whether or not I want to keep trying to make plasma work for me. I'm leaning toward no.

I know it's very strong, but I struggle with it

[tropic halo]

I see it is a quick pull out for a specialist shot

never liked spamming shots with plasma

[junior grail]

Plasma, Revolver, Double Barrel

These weapons turn my Vet playstyle into a hybrid melee Vet

[tall torrent]

Plasma ideally is smth like 7:3 split between melee/ranged

[narrow frost]

What's the highest ranged to melee ratio weapon

Helbore and vigilant?

[tall torrent]

Not on vet

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

[narrow frost]

Fair

Lmao

Scum and psyker exists

Okay, context of vet then

[tall torrent]

Recon prob

[woven oak]

But I am bad.

[tall torrent]

no ur not

[woven oak]

:(