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Tomorrow? Ain't it every thursday?
Knoife works as well, you know.
I was told its the 17th
Not spending?
Was told biweekly
So like every other Thursday?
Yes but at least mk4 tactical axe is truly the weapon you lets you turn off your brain
Because your tactic vs any kind of enemy is light spam
I genuinely don't understand how tac axe isn't more popular
Its good damage and mobility and it isn't very hard to utilize
You can do that with knoife as well. 
It also isnt as ugly as optimal knife play(push attack spam)
I don't even pushatk lul.
You don't have to but iirc it is the single most optimal way to use the thing
I only turn brain on if I need to clutch.
I feel like brain on is an overstatement for what that is
Cos everyone else flew off the map or so.
Do they not know left stick+b means haha immune?
Depending on what difficulty they're in I'd be amazed if their randoms knew how to move
Especially with FS hotfix lul.
Auric
Immune indeed.
I just saw a 2 extra wound psyker in auric tbh
The one time I hopped on stealth vet
Only 2?
Extra wounds don't help me ever
Having any at all is a horrific sign ime
Even as scum
I know.
the other day I forgot what setup I was using on my zealot and ran marty curios on a judgement build
Erm aktschuallly
Zealot
Zealot likes them on martyrdom builds
1 in heresy, sure if learning to play...
dont u have 3 wounds in heresy
Be a shame if I was talking about psyker, huh?
Nope
Nah, first diff with 2
fair enough then
Yeah real shame
But only time I imagine psyker with multiple wounds is like
But if you are in damn and up... just...
That one meme build about blowing yourself up
Going for suicide penance
When they have multiple head wounds
Maybe
That too
Naw, funni suisyker build.
Psyker having a "just kill yourself" penance is wildly funny
Regularly it is, yes. Every 2 weeks, thursday. Though i don't know about this week...
You build to just blowup in hordes of shotgunners and crystalline will your way out.
Its probably Thursday tbh
Waiting for that commissar fit to cosplay Dragor
Inquisitor one is better imo.
Actually nvm commissar fit doesn't really fit the loose cannon vet I got
INQUISITOR FIT HOWEVER
You're gonna need professional for a kriegsman. Cutthroat is an obvious CADIAN and the loose cannon is the furthest he could be from a kriegsman
It fits, goober XXX a fleeing Inquisitor and traded anonymity for her drip.
God does the savlar coat go HARD
I wish they did krieg coats just a little more proper
I got Vostroyan, Savlar and the Valhallan fits for the veteran
Honestly they all fit with loose cannon
Those yeah
I meant krieg commissar
Which i pray
Is up next
We do need a 4th vet character though
Would be awesome to have a grim commando- type
Bounty Hunter lmfao
Next rotation includes mordian groin gougers I mean iron guard
Gotta look into those personalities
Too damn clueless on HS
Scum Bounty Hunter is exactly that
I just know their biltz is now op
Bounty hunter is the only person in the entire darktide crew that audibly says how to counter pox bursters
Is this a joke that I'm too Warrior Priest to understand
They even supposedly write down every kill just to show the list to the inquisition when receiving cash
Yes, BH saltzpyre
BLESS THIS SHOT
*KILLS KERILLIAN
He's very legends Boba in the best way possible
No disintegrations
The elf is horizontal 
Bro got receipts lol
The more I listen to outlaw the more I question why they joined the cartels and not the guard
They evidently don't wanna be here
Anarchist is just having fun there is no punchline
Because maybe failed it or just wrong place or wrong time.
Cos I personally can see the loose cannon being a ganger as well.
What if they didn't make the guard and is just a ragtag making ends meet by looting and scavenging.
LC was defo a conscript, it wouldn't be unfeasible for them to be a former hiver
Thus, could just be wrong place or wrong time.
Also enough snark to fit a ganger, heh.
LC feels the most like Outlaw imo
I would say, Accatran lasgun very good for WS penance
I do like.. 55 for 1 mission
Not the recon. You are likely getting it from melee kills.
Nah, I exactly shoot only specs
I know. Personally why I feel they are interchangable in a way. Also I play fem LC and fem Outlaw so... herp.
M LC, M BH
Granted I only really like LC as a voice for vet
Prof is fine, it just isn't for me
Fr, loose cannon supremacy 💪
Prof is boring in book way. Cutthroat is just Cadia, Cadia, Cadia.
RUBBIN ONE OFF FOR CADIA ‼️
I didn't have many strong feelings on cadia or cadians to begin with but cutthroat makes me think Abaddon was right.
I really like the one scums response when cadian starts whining again
professional bangs
Zarona (blue) do more dmg than Accatran (tan) because of fire rate
Also special ammo on Zarona turns into a Pseudo Double Barrel (which is really fucking nice)
yeah idk im trying it out and i feel like i prefer the acctran primary fire
accatran is the slug no?
The flame one
Agripina is the slug
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0877a75-51ac-41f6-88cc-709af424c274/vet-build-10
how is this? i know people like ps more but i hate charging the attack constantly
Out for blood over confirmed kill is crazy work
Imo at least
Especially when you have ds with its limited horde clear
Also no need for trench fighter with ds
so change to confirmed kill and move trench to where? always prepared? just starting to play my vet more
Always prepared is good but not mandatory for plasma, if you want more toughness regen then on your toes is a very good keystone modifier
Or if you want more durability with the +25 toughness between agile engagement and skirmisher
Also vet usually will want 1 hp curio to get over 200 hp
guess will play around with them and see what feels good. thanks
dose Accatran Mk XIV recon las work with a crit infernus build ?
my current recon las
yes but you'd prob want to run deadshot
oh i already run that lol
This is my current talent setup. Couldn’t fit everything in on pic XD
i'd drop tinkerer to take confirmed kill
confirmed kill is really good on vet
you have skirmisher which will give you the krak crusher one-shot in aurics
this would be a good build for IAG / vigilants
but since you're running recon las, the only keystone i can recommend is focus target
MMF does like nothing for recon las
The node on the right for MMF gives stamina back on headshots. I can probably drop the middle one to adjust.
I find it easy to keep high stacks cuz I can just shoot into hordes or mixed hordes.
There's a FT node that does Stam regen as well but the point is you're spending three talents on a keystone that does very little for recon
we hate deadshot in this household
One time, I get stacked scab-shots like 7 and one shot them with sword
From 33 get to 179
So stupid grind
I see. I’ll toy around with em next time I play
Thank you for your insight! 
What weapons pair well with power falchion or recon lasgun for endgame/havocs?
And advice on the curio builds welcome
Hey it can be very funny
For havocs there’s essentially 3 really good melee focused weapons: power sword, combat axe, and tac axe, as well as knife and ds for mobility with single target damage
Power falchion usually wants rending strikes so vigilant autogun mk3 or mk9 would pair well
what was the blessing/perk combbo for power sword
Power Cycler+Sunder/Brutal Momentum
Carapace unyielding I think
So it would be deeply unwise to run power falchion with recon if I don't want to annoy my havoc/auric teammates?
What would be smartest suboptions for knife/duelding sword and is it enough to handle ogryns?
Weak Aura
Strong Aura run whatever you like

Tactical Axe
Chain Axe
Are able to handle big targets no problem
definitely not deeply unwise
why is the power falchion mid? just meh stats?
And poor blessings
(i am still gonna use it over the power sword)
I fall asleep at the wheel with the p-sword
You can run whatever you want when hosting your own runs
power falchion also has awkward swing pattern doesn't it?
People get picky when you are applying to their runs
or am I wrong
It's fine. Just that heavies are very slow so they suck ass
It’s not deeply unwise it’ll just be suboptimal, but who cares! It’ll save you a talent point too because, just like tac axe, you don’t really need trench fighter
is combat knife better at killing elites?
Just take the standard talent tree with knife and dueling sword, except with ds skip trench fighter
is there a builder for the standard talent tree on the website?
Courtesy of path.exe
I like how talents got reworked and now Vet just has a "the build" we throw at people
Either exe stance or voice of command work, infiltrate struggles a bit. If you’re running knife with mercy killer (which is prob where it’s most powerful) you want trench fighter and serrated instead of field improv
Also for havoc you need grenade tinkerer on kraks
Or take both and stil be fine. XD
i kinda feel like vet just has a few nodes that are really good and you always want
and everything just fits in around that mold
Compared to what?
Falchion? Yeah
Just spam push attack at head level
I would agree, yeah.
ty
Is Krak better than Frag now?
shredder add bleed effects, Krak add 75% more damage
I think Im finding Krak more....lethal
Krak is more just a "Kill this carapace unit immediately"
sometimes you find yourself lacking in needing room cause of cara spam
Obviously you can't put smokes near them cause both Kill vs Utility
Its genuinely just dependent on what you see yourself lacking the most in your build
it kinda sucks that it feels like even the most optimal vet build has a good few tax nodes
I did not play for a very long time and I think of putting a Combat Blade a mobility stick. On my first try I got an 60% first target roll, should I roll more? I am a bit broke atm
I agree with this too lol
Tree is still too tall
Dont like the middle section
Dont love the top either
If you want an 80 mobility
Then you get one with 60% penetration and use Uncanny Strikes
A 60% first target is just shit
how useful are smokes? I dont use em myself
But is it passable?
I'm a kraks all day except for a few builds kinda guy
Gunner seeds are when they're insane
or Havoc
high havocs
Not really
First Target is the single most important stat on any weapon with it
Its basically Psyker bubble accept you're not getting toughness in it
oh fair
I personally just gold toughness shout for ranged seeds but I can see how that's useful
another thing is it also forces Ranged units to immediately try to get out of the smoke
save yourself the ability usage
Well I got a 64% finesse roll now
Basically they move out of the smoke to reposition
keep rollin rollin rolling
But I want to give it stats too
smokes need a little something something
Like empower and consecrate eomething
idk what
And I'm broke
Just some sort of buff when inside of it outside of ranged units dropping agro
I know Path suggested giving a Stamina Buff in it
do smokes work well if you throw em at your feet to reposition
stamina and a speed buff could be fun
makes them incredibly safe repositioning tools
to they stagger at all when they explode?
Put precognition blessing on it and play until you can get a 60% penetration
Light stagger on light units iirc
but like crushers and such are immune?
I need to check
I know it applies a light stagger
I think just a little stamina + speed buff would make them pretty solid
I forget about this
usually because Reapers and Gunners side straffe and quickly exit the smoke
and then lock back onto you
rarely they stand still in which you actually get value from it
maybe fix that somehow too
smokes should apply heavy stagger to unmasked enemies I think
it makes sense to me, having them unable to do much because they're too busy trying to wave the smoke off
I mean they are all nurgled up
and then light stagger for ogryns
but also HS can out chemical weapon them so idk
so I'm not too sure about how nurgle infested biology works but considering that chem tox can stagger them, I think it's pretty fair to guess smokes could do smth similar
seems like a pretty shit blitz ngl
thinking if Mk14 recon inferno better against hordes and mixed hordes than 12
On Vet, should I be using Chainsword, Power Sword, or Falchion?
PS is way above those two
Falchion is so meh
Chsword is good against hordes, but that's it
be based and bring the shovel
its not at all lmao
Havoc makes you realize sometimes its good carrying pocket utility for scenarios that snowball incredibly quickly
everything is viable
it's worth mentioning that psword is extremely involved though
like "activate special every 3 attacks" involved
dueling sword is better in havoc in general too
You press one different button every three buttons
Idk if I'd call that extremely involved
dsword is very "pick up and fuck shit up" yeah but it's also boring and is only really excelling at single target so you'll want a gun that's proficient in horde clear
Don’t worry, I plan to use a shovel, hellbore las, and full Krieg outfit for my first run of the new trenches map.
i mean compared to a lot of other weapons
that's really involved
Ig compared to DS and CAxe
it'll prob get looked at in 2026
puts on tinfoil hat
they're working on replacing it with the outcast engineer's ability so people who want a helgun or heavy stubber are satisfied.
how do lasguns handle carapace targets? Do they just swap to melee weapons or are there any builds that are able to clear hordes and carapace?
Mostly asking for recon lasgun, but id be interested to know about options with the other lasgun/pistols too
any gun that big would surely go to ogryn not vet
how do lasguns handle carapace targets?
they don't
well, helbore can I guess
Kraks or a melee like Psword that can tear through cara
... would actually be neat
Hellbore can clear carapace, Recon lasgun technically can if you take Onslaught but it’s a bit slow and ammo intensive in comparison to the standard options
laspistol can do like 2k dps to carapace
kk, so mostly just grenades/melee then. Or let teammates handle them
What's the setup for this?
just normal laspistol build
so deadshot, marksman
maaay be + rending
But generally melee better
most likely not happening
Is mostly to brittle burn them to death.
the reason its good is because havoc you can rely on your team to hordeclear cause they do it better than you can with even psword, while ds just gives you so much survivabillity while still being able to deal with bosses/armor
don't forget having to factor in movement, situational awareness, spacing, all that jazz. every activation, you are effectively a sitting duck until your next 3 attacks. it's not like you pick it up and lightspam or h1 l1 cut through every horde like, I don’t know, 85% of Veteran's melees
that's why I say it's quite involved
yes, it's powerful, and yes, it effortlessly cuts through many things while charged, but it takes involvement to activate and swing in a smart way, deeper than just the aforementioned lightspam or h1 l1
is it just me or does the double barrel, as a gun, itself, kinda suck
Helbore is great at carapace if you give it the help it needs
otherwise it's kinda zilch
I'm playing quickswap with a db and it's really fun and very effective
but the weapon outside of that feels so ass
Recon has a (relatively) long TTK even if you're brittleness stacking
I mean it's not bad tho
like a 4-5 second TTK for a crusher with recon isn't bad it's just fine
I personally feel like this double barrel is better than how most FPS games treat it but I get what you mean
i mean two shots will kill a sniper even at very long ranges
but ive had a lot of cases where I shoot a gunner or something at pretty short (but not point-point blank) ranges, and they survive
often not by much
but like
it's enough to mean I need another shot y'know
ye
if ur crit stacking, the super shotgun is great at what it can do
specially with manstopper flechette
Oh. I have scattershot on mine. Why the fuck do I have scattershot
I personally can play with the double barrel on other classes because of literally one crucial trait, and it's that you reload both shells at once
This is a chad only text channel
Only chad veteran mains are allowed here am i right or am i right?
for some God forsaken reason, most FPS games reload one by one for each barrel
which annoys me because why wouldn't you reload two at once
I like the weapon, but it doesn't feel 'much' better than the combat shotguns
and they can kill two things without then needing to reload
they fill different niches
sure, I don't disagree
I love the combat shotguns. It's my go to ranged weapon on zealot
combat shotgun is an all-rounder, double barrel is "I want this fucker turned into mist"
flakiac?
Yup
For my primary i use a comvbat knife i rely on bleed stacks and backstabs
yes
u cant say chad then say u play combat knife. they don't go together
I'm a vile and hateful little beast and I remember dealing with knife zealots back in 2023
that's what's wrong with combat knife
what's the crit rate with double barrel then
does it roll crit seperately for each pellet or for all of them at once per shot?
all at once iirc
The weapon customization mod was finally updated. I can finally change the sight of my infantry lasgun again.
seems like a fairly low crit rate to then take a crit blessing no?
weapon specialist has a garenteed crit + vet can jack crit higher then 10% that's just the base
oh yeah I just stopped to read WS
3 melee kills will guarantee a crit
just, with no other external effects
nvm ignore me
without WS you need scattershot for it to work well like that
which helbores the best one to use?
Whichever you like. All of them are good
Most random Zealots I get run off solo, instantly die, and than ragequit
ala knife zealot moment
Still preferable than having a Psyker on your team
Pyskers are too strong and I dislike playing with them
I have self respect
Barrel all psykers 🙂↕️
Oh good you swapped it out
yeah no I didn't mean to
Yeah flechette helps big time
Would be using brauto be a bad idea on veteran
No. Vet is good with most weapons.
Brauto is decent if you build for it. Though definitely not meta.
Thanks
It just feels like 14 loadouts on my vet isn't enough
Hiya popping back in, the previous build was helpful but just checking- does copying this look auric/havoc optimal? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0947177-204b-47bb-b0f4-620dc6274208/krak-veteran
What go to melee weapon? atrox or dueling sword? runnning shoutie
not really havoc
recon lasgun atp is just worse hivescum
How do I change shotgun ammo
...Hm. So what should I take into havoc...
special actiom key typically a side mouse button
DB and Plasma and Bolter/bolt pistol are typically whats taken
any chance of a link to idiotproof build for that esp bolt pistol? ^^
I could orobably just make it cause the vet meta build is all pretty similar
IIIa is the middle ground on ammo usage, charging time and damage
bit unsure about the perks etc and the last 6 points
Something like this would be fine, I prefer a more melee centric build because vets ranged is limited by ammo unless you go a recon build thats just worse hive scum
hmm, and stats for dueling adn bp?
@tulip shoal
Mk IIIa = faster, less base damage and ammo consumption, slightly worse armor penetration
Mk V = fastest, lowest charged damage but highest uncharged damage
There are differences in their special attacks (bayonnet) and their sights but you can't change them or add a scope, by default.
You can with mods though. Legacy of Vrak skin add a hooded front sight.
cleave dmg dump for duelling sword, collateral dump for boltpistol
what is this from
but neither is that great for vet tbh
boltpistol is not good at 1 taps (never been)
wait so is vet basically just plasma or boltgun then lol
and DS is disastrously bad at mixed horde clear
this is wrong btw
ah its from a 2024 guide. What changed?
they have the same cleave
...wait so what works well for melee? I'm comfy with recon lasgun so if it can be run in havocs I'd be interested in a workable build for it
it's just a matter of highest damage and slowest vs. fastest but lowest damage really
power sword is strongest vet melee
and the bayone on IV sucking ass
by pretty significant margin
DS is better dodge & movement but u have basically no mixed horde clear and can only poke at carapace/boss well
? yeah? bayonets has been nerfed on the Helbore and IV has the worst one. Is there any thing about the guide that's out of date?
Which guide?
this
It's just wrong in some parts like I said
what parts
it never said bayonets were good on helbore, only that there's difference with them between the marks
penetration, whatever that means, is not different between the marks.
ammo consumption should be the same
ammo consumption is not the same
yeah
ok nvm then
it's just the penetration
and the guide in general being poorly-worded and vague
ADMs are also nearly identical between them
IV has a bit higher carapace ADM I think?
how is it different?
didn't realize the faster ones had less ammo used on charged shots
I have grinded out
all intro sections (with updated videos for illustration)
all vet talent sections (updated to new format)
all vet melee weapons (updated to new format)
all vet ranged weapons (updated to new format)
all curios (updated to new format)
in the past week
does deal slightly less damage depending

that part's right, the penetration part is very wrong though
what the game being shit does to a mfer's productivity 
can you link me to the guide you got the screen cap from?@tall torrent
it's not published yet
soon tm
but I can send u stuff u need
it's only missing
vet builds (prob just 3)
other human classes' talents
other human classes' weapons
you're covering that much from other classes?
yea since nobody else doing all dat in same place
so yeah V shoot faster, low ammo consume, but can deal less damage in charged shot
nice
IIIa feel good to me so far. I guess if I tried IV i would find it a bit slow firing and consume ammo too much for my own liking
everything that's not WIP here is done
haven't added hvs' weapons yet
whew, I salute your efforts man
it's alr
Could you use recon lasgun for horde clear and pair it with dueling sword?
if you want to use a gun for horde clear, HIV is right there
don't play vet for that
I'll make my own version, supposed to be a quick summary on Helbore lasgun. Then let them look up more detail like bath's soon to be published (TM) guide
not rly worth it esp for havoc's horde density
do all three marks have same battery capacity or it does differ?
I'll just send u the 2 helbore sections
thanks
...okay I'm a bit befuddled, what's your advice for a copypaste havoc build that isn't stepping into a minefield
I feel a bit like I should just follow the leader on this 😂
vet shines as a hybrid class
so going weapon specialist with big investment on bottom right
is the metaslave approach
and run powersword + double barrel/plasma
and VOC ofc
vet hasn't been a ranged class in years
...ah
though yes you can run mostly ranged setups, but it's not the focus of vet anymore
That's kind of insane 😂
if you want to run all ranged in havoc
you can do stuff like boltpistol/laspistol and PowerSword/Chainsword or such (Commissar/Officer/Sergeant way)
helbore is prob the best option
yeeesh
But yeah in that case, uh, is there a website build you'd recommend for a Havoc Vet
I guess for plasma/power sword as the one that keeps some flavor...
Roger ty
generic build with 2 points for VOC or ES
👀
is havoc 40 broken? There is no hitsound cue(the sound before u about to get hit) sometimes
The audio engine is
You notice it more the higher diff you go into and the more enemies it has to process
game's broken in general 
and they off for the holidays 
This isn't like, new tbh
fucking europeans actually getting holidays reeeee
they're not off yet I think
Does Enhanced Targetting Priority also extend whenever you kill an elite in Exe stance?
es?
Executioner's Stance
ah
Left side ability
bit unsure where the "ideal" place to put those last 2 points is, assuming voice of command
Remind me where on your toes is rq
I don't use that, personally
I find vet has enough toughness gain to not need it, especially with Exe
I don't use longshot either tho normally fwiw
roger, ty
Yo, you guys have any idea if the left node for exe stance also extends its duration for team mates?
Afaik it stays up for them as long as you have it up
But I'm a greedy bastard who does not share ES
Ah alright. Well its good to know just in case
Cuz I feel like it would be helpful in havocs
I wonder 1 thing
Why in Immortal Imperium, and all tracks with choir from it, women choir sings "Fabious Bail" but in russian/serbian/polish

mk3 or mk6 powersword
6 is objectively better
which weapon do we like paired with plasma
mk6 power sword lol
u do need to learn the difference between push and push atk for power sword
ds?
the preferred weapon of shitters, duelling sword
Imagine Space Marines using Duelling Swords to destroy the enemies of the Imperium
Even the Emperor wouldn't have gotten wounded and killed Horus asap if only he used a DS
Is shock maul + combat shotgun (slugs) viable for havoc? Or is DS + Plasma what I should take? If I take the DS I would want mobility as the dump stat ya?
Club + shotty is my favorite loadout but I don’t want to troll runs either.
Might be more difficult to pull off in higher havoc difficulties but it should be viable provided you have the skill
DS dump stat would be cleave, as the difference between min and max is negligible
Ahh ok good to know, I assumed mobility bc I believe you get max dodges at 60%
80% mobility will give you .89 sprint speed and +8% dodge distance
Compared to 60% which gives .80 spring speed and +6% dodge distance
Fair enough, appreciate it!
Np!
Why is the duelling sword good?
i'd say it's pretty overrated
yes, it's got good mobility, it's easy to use, and has good single target capabilities
but power sword is strictly stronger
power sword and dsword on the opposite ends of the horde clear spectrum
psword = god tier horde clear
dsword = no
Insane single target damage
Insane mobility
Insane defense
It has better block efficiency than some 2 handed weapons

Yknow the weapons that are supposedly supposed to be good at that getting outclassed by a toothpick
i don't think two handed weapons are supposed to be good at blocking
true, but have you considered the duelling sword has a mighty handguard
Notice how it's called handguard and not handsguard
i think blocking would still be easier with a duelling sword than with a two handed weapon tho
theyre both 1 handed
Dont forget that the light attack can stagger anything
it staggers like nothing important
Handguard's job is to protect your fingers and knuckles from getting cut whilst blocking, this makes it safer to block but it does not make the weapon better at blocking. The leverage you have with two hands is of course considerably better, this is also what good longsword designs have large guards for
Though there are few games that ever take this into account
Much less something in the design direction of darktide
it was a joke
Joke? In a 40k environment?
shud I publish guide now
What's the best blessing for power sword
Power Cycler + Sunder/Brutal Momentum
What's the best current Vet weapon specialist build?
I do like moving fast with DS tho
Gonna tell my kids this was me during Covid
Ah yes
swapping between cosmetics
wot's the dump stat for Lucius Lasgun?
same for the shovel
Shovel is Defence or mobility.
and Lasgun?
I don't use any but recon. If you mean hellbore... Likely Stability or ammo.
Better wait for someone else on it.
yeah Helbore
is the plasma bug fixed
Stability, it's pretty much pointless, ammo as well since you won't likely run out of ammo if you use that no ammo consumption on crit talent
Still would go with stability tho
Need to make another DC build. Especially since my skill trees got reset. I guess I could try the skirmisher build again with dbl/dc/smokes or shredders
How’s everyone
Wots dc
Devils claw prob
Devil Claw, yeah.
Personal favorite melee weapon
Mk4 DC, have a build on every class that can run it
Always stability dump on lasguns because lol what recoil?
Did the braced autoguns get a change to number of dodges?
So other lasguns need stability?
I thought I read about one, but gameslantern is still showing 2.
they were not touched
ilas: absolutely
recon: you could dump stab, but collat does literally nothing for recon so might as well dump that instead
Thanks!
most NA probably at work
or getting ready for winter vacation
J*bs
I love darktides playerbase I love that they all leave when they get downed
youre all so impotant! your time is sooo important :DDDD
Differences between MKIII and MKVII shovels? Please don't just say "Attack Patterns", I wanna know what each is actually good for. Especially because I currently have an MKIII shovel and if I change it to MKVII I won't be able to change it back
actually, simpler question
which mark is best for crowds
I have a Lucius for single targets
Mk1
You can freely change between marks as long as you have the mark unlocked btw
7's a middle child between 1 and 3
3 is light spam for horde clear, and heavy folded attacks for carapace
and single target
and 1 is full horde?
both 7 and 3 are folding shovels, but 3 is much more focused on using folded attacks
its latches are very fast
7 has a delay after latching
but has closer to 1's moveset with L H horde clear, and arguably better horde clear than 3
it's better than 3 and 7 at horde clear, but the ST isn't bad either
it's just different
relies on push attack and lights
for single target
not as good as 3 and 7 against crushers, but prob fairly close on smaller elites
interesting the bayonet cleave stat on Mk IV Helbore is 6.5 while the other 2 marks are 3
(IV's bayonet still sucks ass
)
yeah its stagger chances are lower than IIIa and V vs three target types. the worst loss is against Maniac. Only 5 vs 8.8 on other marks. The other two types very minimal reduce by 0.3/1
Just played my first Duelling Sword Vet game (was around back when it was psyker only before) and while its nice to onepokehit to death various elites and specials, its dogwater when it comes to dealing with basic hordes
1½ year ago i was mostly using Rashad axe instead, hit one trash mob in head, its buddies instadie too
DS really is best as a psyker weapon
Did they nerf Columnus MK V or something? That used to be meta pick for many classes
No what they did was change names
dump stat on Falchion?
It's called Vraks now
Mobility
The old Columnus is now Vraks5
yeah instead of CAG it's now called VAG
why does everyone just hate mobility
cuz it doesn't affect your damage
Hate is a strong word
counterpoint
I wanna fast
Anyone know if there are any interesting modifiers which affect the Bayonet? Does attackspeed affect bayonet?
It's more that 53% mobility gets you all your available dodges
And anything past that doesn't add much
So is Vraks5 still good and commonly used?
Yeah
yes and no
just keep it high on da shovel
go fastah and clobber everyone
combat shotty dump?
you'll never guess...
goddammit
Cause the difference between 60 and 80 mobi is normally nonexistent
Especially compared to other stats
on Plasma, isn't the optimal stat like
thermal resist 66% and charge 74?
so dump mobility and get all other stats to 80
I went 80% mobi on DS and 60% cleave
Normally, yes.
This is correct iirc
Cause that thing doesn't really cleave
What gun is this
Yeah, 60 mobi
^
@tired egret
lol he set his nickname to that?
got it
Yeah we couldn't set a bot so this was the closest thing we had
just name some dude that
that is some dude named that

dedicating his account to community service
Damn positive it’s an alt lmao
But that’s still fucking hilarious
Now we just need Optml Ripper 66Ammo for Ogryns
Real?
Yes 1 shell = 1 BA stack
Neat
So the actual continuous fire blessings immediately proc instead of 2 shells each
What do you set to 74?
@tall torrent you at all recall?
collat or stability, doesn't matter
also are u gonna do the penance sections in guide
cuz I'm going through last round checks
before publishing
@faint beacon
Thank you
joy! I am planning on a quick and dirty Guide as a Kriegsman.
I’ll try to get to it tonight but I’m currently doing a closing shift so you can if you really want too but it’s no big deal
I might just cut it for now if u can't do it
I did update legit everything in a week lol
The veteran mains demand new information
The ungodly amount of information lmao
oh hell yeah, can't wait until it's published
how many hours did you spend on this
Guide created on Nov 16, 2024
We here????? 
currently fixing intros
kuli told me TGH is bad abbreviation of toughness
so gonna change all TGH in guide to toughness
Tbh I think you should be as direct with as few abbreviations as possible
Or you open up the guide with
A key of sorts
TGH=Toughness
Hmm how come?
Seems pretty obvious
I did remove almost all abbreviations
now it's just
global damage
melee damage
ranged damage
near damage
far damage
etc etc etc
instead of
Tdmg, Mdmg, Rdmg, Ndmg, etc
Prob better for readability
I've been running Infantry Lasgun build the past few days (Mostly Auric Event + Occasional Maelstrom) and it's been such a fun time honestly I've been sleeping on this thing so much.
its so fun
it even holds up in havoc
still has its 1 taps on gunners and specials
hello, new hero and to game ,where me find meta builds ?
someone send "The Build"
It's my first time using the buffed Marksman Focus really
I could imagine if you can really hit those back to back headshots yeah it must be fun in Havoc
because after the first swing that hits enemies, it starts checking for combo chain time
if u don't atk within the combo chain time, when the combo expires or is reset, it's also lost
can u record
yea pls do
curious to how that works
Be me
Beta player with 1k hrs
Hear about this cool new havoc mode, want to try it out
Get told I have to do an auric maelstrom
Okay, I've done plenty of those before
Get it done
Get told I have to wait 15 hrs to play havoc mode
Okay, it's late anyway. I'll come back tomorrow
Fatshark releases hot"fix"
Get told I have to do ANOTHER auric mael
Get told I have to wait ANOTHER 15 hrs
The Darktide experience in a nutshell
don't worry, you're not missing out by not playing the meme game mode that is havoc
is this with power cycler III or IV?
then u need to do low level havoc missions which are just like fucking heresy tier missions
and THEN maybe u can do real shit
maybe smth wrong with auto swing mod
if u can fuck with party finder
no, the tier of power cycler blessing equipped
ur using auto swing mod?
try without
prob the mod's problem
another skitarius W 🙂↕️
mods = cheats
its because your canceling your combo
same reason block and getting hit make you lose charge
theres probably a longer delay between light 2 and light 3
What is considered the best gear for veteran?
depend on what you want to do
I’m just lasgun and chainsword and really like these weapons but I feel like FatShark makes alot of weapons objectively better than others
chainsword doesnt do well when up against enemies that has armor. So either changing up the melee or better yet choosing the right ranged option. Like Helbore Lasgun
and getting Krak grenade in talent tree
the dueling sword is the meta, but it gets boring to use a lot of times
man, EU players sure love their kraks xD, no issue with that, it's just that in Hong Kong, you mostly see smokes
NA being shredder spam
Dueling sword is for spineless cowards
I mean it's objective good, but subjectively boring to me lol
there's a DKoK cavalry sword skin for DS
😛
Most boring melee ever to exist in DT
trying to figure out my build, and ive landed on recon lasgun
which pairs better with it, power sword or combat blade
I will never switch off of my beloved Shovel and Helbore, don’t need anything but that fr fr
Power sword, Rashad, tac axe, Knife, Shovel (on select builds)
Plasma, Bolter, Helbore, Inf auto, Revolver, Laspistol, combat shotgun, double barrel, recon lasgun, vigilant auto
I’ll let that 1 sneak pass
Take that as a yes
I guess 2 then
Finally tried melee exe and this is what I ended up with
I finally understand combat shotgun
Hehehehe lasgun go PSSH
Krieg combat engineers use shotguns 🤪
Combat engineer?
You mean nerd?
Trying to decide if I want extra ammo or OFB
If repeatedly hitting machinery doesn’t fix it, then it’s not worth fixing
Thats not what a combat engineer ism...
Krieg memers when I how them their modern box
They break shit so the soldiers can get in
(none of their shitposts are in it)
Counter argument: strap me in a bomb vest, I’ll get us a hole in whatever wall you need
I need that excerpt of some krieg formation on vraks getting absolutely destroyed, fragging their commisars, then running
Cowardice, betrayal of our duty, dereliction of any and all mercy
As it turns out its kinda hard to get people to charge artillery
Sounds like a lack of faith to me
Oh shit I do have it
Hmmm
I should be granted one Exterminatus declaration for whatever planet those Krieg posers reside on
I don’t actually, I’m relatively fresh to Warhammer tbh
I can tell
all these skins, none of them portray the hellbore IV
why dont they want us to have long gun
um what? you say IV has no skins in game?
I do like the look of the Vostoyan skin, I hope it'll be back in rotation soon.
I want my bayonet the LOOOOONG way
it just left
so it'll be months at least
In fact just attach a Zweihander to the underbarrel
im waiting for the legacy of vrak
the helbore skin from that give it a hooded front sight
and the cool seals
Just use weapon customization
😐
What
Its an availible solution for PC players who want better sights and/or free skins
well where are the mods?
Ok
Its mods
Its always at your own risk
Risk in this case meaning half hour troubleshooting sessions every major update
okay so lemme see weapon customization
Go look it up on nexus
any mods i should look at that add to the atmosphere of the setting?
no idea, I just use utility stuff like numeric UI
oh any particular bugs I should look out for?
most mods are just QoL
u might be looking for reshade mods?
correct, unless there are more skins than I have
but im pretty sure i have all of em
for hellbore atleast
no I mean, make it feel more like the setting of 40k
not "improve lightning there and shades there"
How would a mod do that
what is that exactly
with ps what range weapon you all enjoy the most? torn between plasma, bolter, bistol
does anyone have a good recon lasgun build
I wanna make a Vigil build, got any suggestions? Thank you!
thanks
do you guys prefer shredder grenades or kraks on a helbore build
Shredder, helbore can deal with tougher enemies
thank you
does anyone know what skin for helbore has the best sights?
The Krieg one, it's a premium
Yea I forgor the name
This is the skin
damn i don’t think i can get it rn but thanks, i don’t see it anywhere
Is there a list of all the stuff in the slop shop somewhere
Maybe, maybe not it'll be there
thank you
Vostroyan
Crosshair remap best skin 
Oh? What does it looks like?
Man the combat shotgun sucks
True
I've never seen such an atrocity
Like it feels weak and is also actually weak
Can't even kill anything in one shot at point blank range
front post is where the crosshair is at
Hipfire is for splash. Aim down is more lethal against single target
Hmm i still like the hooded front sight on legacy of vraks though
i prefer open sights personally
i don't like the square hood on vraks
if it was like kar98's hood then i'd be more interested
How can you even say something like that?
why is damnation so abysmally hard since the last i've played
i'm never reaching auric atp
#youfelloff
i did fall off its crazy 😭
alot of new players
and damnation is the place where people not comfortable with auric go to
new heresy 
Damnation is right around the time where hard simple basics start to matter a bit more. Take your time with things and just brush up on your defense and target priorities you've been building up this entire time. Drop pings more often if you don't already, maybe even use comms if you're comfortable enough.
Maybe adjust some of your view around other people's blindspot so you can squeeze in kills, reposition in ways to give yourself more of a view of where everything else might be and eventually damnation especially is a breeze.
Auric is where the simple checks can be more heavily enforced so you'll learn the gaps in your own play sooner from any failure.
Combat axe with brutal momentum or Power sword make Damnation+ feel super smooth as long as I dodge correctly
As long as you can handle a horde without taking chip health damage you should be chillin' most of the time ime
Also if a special appears, kill it instantly with your gun
Your team yearns for you to kill disablers/gunner at range as soon as they're within line of sight
Quick question, I'm having a hard time trying to find a good melee weapon that's essentially just a generalist in all aspects and idk where to start
Combat Axe
shovel
Shovel is good
Shovel also goes crazy
its the most generalist
Duelling Sword
I love how everyone here knows that DS is what he's asking for but no one said it because its OP af 
Just so crushingly overtuned
Its a horrible generalist tbh
I wish it was worse
Tbf I don't even know what I want anyways
Patricians taste generalist is tac axe ime
Hell I've been using a hellbore my whole time playing bc bayonet goes stabby stabby
Thought it got nerfed?
Yeah
I said power sword like six minutes ago aiyah
Nerfed from S tier to S tier
So it doesn't matter
nah it cant solo h40
Shovel solos
Do you want prioritize damage and cleave with the power sword and leave the swing speed up to talent perks?
Knife is fun but you gotta prepare for some carpal tunnel
Cleave is the dumpstat for PS
Cleave is dumpstat
You have Sunder with its casual 400% cleave buff and armor slide or bromentum which just ignores cleave
Bromentum is the main breadwinner for my family
Power sword's cleave is already godly so dumping that makes practically no difference
Idk why I didn't just ask here in the first place for advice. I've been looking at stuff blindly for the past hour trying to figure out my build and what weapons I want to use
Yeah
If you want something that is OP then play the Duelling Sword
Power sword
