#veteran-class

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winter grove
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Personally I did it with revolver and tactical axe

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Taxes crit A LOT

azure narwhal
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Tomorrow? Ain't it every thursday?

unreal nova
fair shale
azure narwhal
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Well

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Here's hoping

fair shale
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It makes effectively no difference to me

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so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

unreal nova
fair shale
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Isn't Krieg rotating in?

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If so, no. It depends heavily on what/if Scum gets.

unreal nova
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Check featured page 2.

fair shale
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Yeah I think the next stuff rotating in is also krieg

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Its on the launcher page, no?

mystic pilot
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So like every other Thursday?

winter grove
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Because your tactic vs any kind of enemy is light spam

fair shale
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I genuinely don't understand how tac axe isn't more popular

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Its good damage and mobility and it isn't very hard to utilize

unreal nova
fair shale
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It also isnt as ugly as optimal knife play(push attack spam)

unreal nova
fair shale
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You don't have to but iirc it is the single most optimal way to use the thing

unreal nova
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I only turn brain on if I need to clutch.

fair shale
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I feel like brain on is an overstatement for what that is

unreal nova
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Cos everyone else flew off the map or so.

winter grove
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Time to clutch because all the scum got shot with lasguns

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Yayyyyy

unreal nova
fair shale
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Depending on what difficulty they're in I'd be amazed if their randoms knew how to move

unreal nova
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Especially with FS hotfix lul.

unreal nova
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Immune indeed.

fair shale
winter grove
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The one time I hopped on stealth vet

unreal nova
winter grove
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Extra wounds don't help me ever

fair shale
winter grove
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Even as scum

unreal nova
quick shell
winter grove
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Zealot

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Zealot likes them on martyrdom builds

unreal nova
quick shell
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dont u have 3 wounds in heresy

fair shale
winter grove
unreal nova
fair shale
quick shell
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fair enough then

winter grove
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But only time I imagine psyker with multiple wounds is like

unreal nova
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But if you are in damn and up... just...

winter grove
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That one meme build about blowing yourself up

fair shale
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Going for suicide penance

quick shell
fair shale
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Maybe

winter grove
unreal nova
fair shale
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Psyker having a "just kill yourself" penance is wildly funny

azure narwhal
unreal nova
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You build to just blowup in hordes of shotgunners and crystalline will your way out.

winter grove
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Waiting for that commissar fit to cosplay Dragor

azure narwhal
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Dude

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Commissar krieg

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Gonna go so fucking hard

unreal nova
winter grove
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Actually nvm commissar fit doesn't really fit the loose cannon vet I got

winter grove
azure narwhal
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You're gonna need professional for a kriegsman. Cutthroat is an obvious CADIAN and the loose cannon is the furthest he could be from a kriegsman

unreal nova
winter grove
azure narwhal
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I wish they did krieg coats just a little more proper

winter grove
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Honestly they all fit with loose cannon

azure narwhal
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Those yeah

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I meant krieg commissar

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Which i pray

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Is up next

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We do need a 4th vet character though

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Would be awesome to have a grim commando- type

fair shale
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Bounty Hunter lmfao

winter grove
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Next rotation includes mordian groin gougers I mean iron guard

azure narwhal
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Too damn clueless on HS

winter grove
azure narwhal
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I just know their biltz is now op

fair shale
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I like all of them for different reasons

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Personalities and blitz

winter grove
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Bounty hunter is the only person in the entire darktide crew that audibly says how to counter pox bursters

fair shale
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I was shocked when I heard that

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Bounty Hunter seems really competent

azure narwhal
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I too enjoy saltzpyre

tame lodge
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Is this a joke that I'm too Warrior Priest to understand

winter grove
fair shale
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I believe that

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Dude wants his money

azure narwhal
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BLESS THIS SHOT

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*KILLS KERILLIAN

fair shale
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He's very legends Boba in the best way possible

winter grove
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No disintegrations

stuck gorge
tame lodge
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Bro got receipts lol

winter grove
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The more I listen to outlaw the more I question why they joined the cartels and not the guard

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They evidently don't wanna be here

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Anarchist is just having fun there is no punchline

unreal nova
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Cos I personally can see the loose cannon being a ganger as well.

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What if they didn't make the guard and is just a ragtag making ends meet by looting and scavenging.

fair shale
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LC was defo a conscript, it wouldn't be unfeasible for them to be a former hiver

unreal nova
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Thus, could just be wrong place or wrong time.

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Also enough snark to fit a ganger, heh.

fair shale
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LC feels the most like Outlaw imo

maiden vector
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I do like.. 55 for 1 mission

unreal nova
maiden vector
unreal nova
fair shale
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M LC, M BH

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Granted I only really like LC as a voice for vet

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Prof is fine, it just isn't for me

strange crow
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Fr, loose cannon supremacy 💪

unreal nova
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Prof is boring in book way. Cutthroat is just Cadia, Cadia, Cadia.

strange crow
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RUBBIN ONE OFF FOR CADIA ‼️

fair shale
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I didn't have many strong feelings on cadia or cadians to begin with but cutthroat makes me think Abaddon was right.

strange crow
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That seems to be a common experience

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One that I had as well

fair shale
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I really like the one scums response when cadian starts whining again

quick shell
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professional bangs

fair shale
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"Grrrrr. Thats what you sound like. Grrrrrr."

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Profs VA seems like a cool dude

quick shell
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wait

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how does the zarona shotgun do more damage than the kantrael?

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err, actran

dapper coyote
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Also special ammo on Zarona turns into a Pseudo Double Barrel (which is really fucking nice)

quick shell
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yeah idk im trying it out and i feel like i prefer the acctran primary fire

silver patrol
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accatran is the slug no?

quick shell
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fire

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i should clarify

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im using it on zealot i suppose

dapper coyote
tame lodge
dreamy saffron
strange crow
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Out for blood over confirmed kill is crazy work

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Imo at least

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Especially when you have ds with its limited horde clear

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Also no need for trench fighter with ds

dreamy saffron
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so change to confirmed kill and move trench to where? always prepared? just starting to play my vet more

strange crow
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Or if you want more durability with the +25 toughness between agile engagement and skirmisher

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Also vet usually will want 1 hp curio to get over 200 hp

dreamy saffron
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guess will play around with them and see what feels good. thanks

strange crow
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Ofc ofc

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Also fully loaded is an option

ivory aurora
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dose Accatran Mk XIV recon las work with a crit infernus build ?

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my current recon las

hollow ibex
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yes but you'd prob want to run deadshot

ivory aurora
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oh i already run that lol

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This is my current talent setup. Couldn’t fit everything in on pic XD

hollow ibex
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i'd drop tinkerer to take confirmed kill

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confirmed kill is really good on vet

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you have skirmisher which will give you the krak crusher one-shot in aurics

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this would be a good build for IAG / vigilants

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but since you're running recon las, the only keystone i can recommend is focus target

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MMF does like nothing for recon las

ivory aurora
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The node on the right for MMF gives stamina back on headshots. I can probably drop the middle one to adjust.
I find it easy to keep high stacks cuz I can just shoot into hordes or mixed hordes.

hollow ibex
silver patrol
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we hate deadshot in this household

maiden vector
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From 33 get to 179

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So stupid grind

ivory aurora
gilded pike
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What weapons pair well with power falchion or recon lasgun for endgame/havocs?

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And advice on the curio builds welcome

hollow ibex
strange crow
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Power falchion usually wants rending strikes so vigilant autogun mk3 or mk9 would pair well

grave hawk
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what was the blessing/perk combbo for power sword

tame lodge
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Power Cycler+Sunder/Brutal Momentum

grave hawk
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carapace maniac?

strange crow
gilded pike
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What would be smartest suboptions for knife/duelding sword and is it enough to handle ogryns?

tame lodge
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Weak Aura

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Strong Aura run whatever you like

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Tactical Axe
Chain Axe
Are able to handle big targets no problem

true jackal
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why is the power falchion mid? just meh stats?

tame lodge
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And poor blessings

true jackal
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(i am still gonna use it over the power sword)

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I fall asleep at the wheel with the p-sword

wraith locust
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You can run whatever you want when hosting your own runs

quick shell
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power falchion also has awkward swing pattern doesn't it?

wraith locust
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People get picky when you are applying to their runs

quick shell
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or am I wrong

hollow ibex
strange crow
gilded pike
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is combat knife better at killing elites?

strange crow
gilded pike
strange crow
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Courtesy of path.exe

fair shale
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I like how talents got reworked and now Vet just has a "the build" we throw at people

strange crow
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Either exe stance or voice of command work, infiltrate struggles a bit. If you’re running knife with mercy killer (which is prob where it’s most powerful) you want trench fighter and serrated instead of field improv

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Also for havoc you need grenade tinkerer on kraks

unreal nova
quick shell
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and everything just fits in around that mold

tame lodge
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Just spam push attack at head level

gilded pike
red laurel
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Is Krak better than Frag now?

narrow frost
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there is no better

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its whatever helps you more

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they do different things

mystic pilot
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shredder add bleed effects, Krak add 75% more damage

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I think Im finding Krak more....lethal

faint beacon
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Krak is more just a "Kill this carapace unit immediately"

narrow frost
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lethal for armored single target yes

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but frags are more lethal for hordes

faint beacon
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sometimes you find yourself lacking in needing room cause of cara spam

narrow frost
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you cant compare them

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they do opposite things

faint beacon
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Obviously you can't put smokes near them cause both Kill vs Utility

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Its genuinely just dependent on what you see yourself lacking the most in your build

robust herald
red laurel
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I did not play for a very long time and I think of putting a Combat Blade a mobility stick. On my first try I got an 60% first target roll, should I roll more? I am a bit broke atm

fair shale
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Tree is still too tall

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Dont like the middle section

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Dont love the top either

tame lodge
robust herald
red laurel
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But is it passable?

robust herald
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I'm a kraks all day except for a few builds kinda guy

faint beacon
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or Havoc

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high havocs

tame lodge
faint beacon
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Its basically Psyker bubble accept you're not getting toughness in it

robust herald
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oh fair

faint beacon
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just turns off ranged units when in it

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so you only engage in melee in smoke

robust herald
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I personally just gold toughness shout for ranged seeds but I can see how that's useful

faint beacon
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another thing is it also forces Ranged units to immediately try to get out of the smoke

robust herald
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save yourself the ability usage

red laurel
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Well I got a 64% finesse roll now

faint beacon
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Basically they move out of the smoke to reposition

robust herald
faint beacon
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admittedly this is less useful

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but it has occasional uses

red laurel
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But I want to give it stats too

true jackal
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smokes need a little something something

red laurel
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Like empower and consecrate eomething

true jackal
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idk what

red laurel
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And I'm broke

faint beacon
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Just some sort of buff when inside of it outside of ranged units dropping agro

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I know Path suggested giving a Stamina Buff in it

robust herald
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do smokes work well if you throw em at your feet to reposition

true jackal
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stamina and a speed buff could be fun

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makes them incredibly safe repositioning tools

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to they stagger at all when they explode?

tame lodge
faint beacon
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but like crushers and such are immune?

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I need to check

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I know it applies a light stagger

true jackal
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I think just a little stamina + speed buff would make them pretty solid

faint beacon
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I forget about this

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usually because Reapers and Gunners side straffe and quickly exit the smoke

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and then lock back onto you

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rarely they stand still in which you actually get value from it

true jackal
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maybe fix that somehow too

robust herald
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smokes should apply heavy stagger to unmasked enemies I think

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it makes sense to me, having them unable to do much because they're too busy trying to wave the smoke off

true jackal
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I mean they are all nurgled up

robust herald
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and then light stagger for ogryns

true jackal
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but also HS can out chemical weapon them so idk

robust herald
quick shell
ocean idol
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thinking if Mk14 recon inferno better against hordes and mixed hordes than 12

teal lance
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On Vet, should I be using Chainsword, Power Sword, or Falchion?

ocean idol
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Falchion is so meh

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Chsword is good against hordes, but that's it

robust herald
faint beacon
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Havoc makes you realize sometimes its good carrying pocket utility for scenarios that snowball incredibly quickly

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everything is viable

robust herald
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like "activate special every 3 attacks" involved

sharp epoch
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dueling sword is better in havoc in general too

tall torrent
# faint beacon

did u see all the tweaks I made to dis guide over past week

fair shale
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Idk if I'd call that extremely involved

robust herald
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dsword is very "pick up and fuck shit up" yeah but it's also boring and is only really excelling at single target so you'll want a gun that's proficient in horde clear

teal lance
quick shell
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that's really involved

fair shale
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Ig compared to DS and CAxe

ocean idol
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why they are not buffing infiltrate

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it REALLY needs love

tall torrent
topaz lance
stark holly
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how do lasguns handle carapace targets? Do they just swap to melee weapons or are there any builds that are able to clear hordes and carapace?
Mostly asking for recon lasgun, but id be interested to know about options with the other lasgun/pistols too

quick shell
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how do lasguns handle carapace targets?
they don't

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well, helbore can I guess

quick shell
narrow torrent
ocean idol
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laspistol can do like 2k dps to carapace

stark holly
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kk, so mostly just grenades/melee then. Or let teammates handle them

topaz lance
ocean idol
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so deadshot, marksman

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maaay be + rending

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But generally melee better

unreal nova
sharp epoch
robust herald
# fair shale Idk if I'd call that extremely involved

don't forget having to factor in movement, situational awareness, spacing, all that jazz. every activation, you are effectively a sitting duck until your next 3 attacks. it's not like you pick it up and lightspam or h1 l1 cut through every horde like, I don’t know, 85% of Veteran's melees

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that's why I say it's quite involved

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yes, it's powerful, and yes, it effortlessly cuts through many things while charged, but it takes involvement to activate and swing in a smart way, deeper than just the aforementioned lightspam or h1 l1

quick shell
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is it just me or does the double barrel, as a gun, itself, kinda suck

robust herald
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otherwise it's kinda zilch

quick shell
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I'm playing quickswap with a db and it's really fun and very effective

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but the weapon outside of that feels so ass

robust herald
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Recon has a (relatively) long TTK even if you're brittleness stacking

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I mean it's not bad tho

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like a 4-5 second TTK for a crusher with recon isn't bad it's just fine

robust herald
quick shell
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i mean two shots will kill a sniper even at very long ranges

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but ive had a lot of cases where I shoot a gunner or something at pretty short (but not point-point blank) ranges, and they survive

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often not by much

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but like

quick shell
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it's enough to mean I need another shot y'know

hollow ibex
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More like two snipers one shot

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Just gotta crit thumbsup_ogryn

robust herald
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ye

quick shell
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ur using

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errr, manstopper flechette?

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I think that's the one

robust herald
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if ur crit stacking, the super shotgun is great at what it can do

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specially with manstopper flechette

quick shell
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Oh. I have scattershot on mine. Why the fuck do I have scattershot

robust herald
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I personally can play with the double barrel on other classes because of literally one crucial trait, and it's that you reload both shells at once

uneven wigeon
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This is a chad only text channel
Only chad veteran mains are allowed here am i right or am i right?

robust herald
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for some God forsaken reason, most FPS games reload one by one for each barrel

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which annoys me because why wouldn't you reload two at once

quick shell
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I like the weapon, but it doesn't feel 'much' better than the combat shotguns

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and they can kill two things without then needing to reload

robust herald
quick shell
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sure, I don't disagree

uneven wigeon
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I use combat shotgun and i love it

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Very good crowd control !

quick shell
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I love the combat shotguns. It's my go to ranged weapon on zealot

robust herald
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combat shotgun is an all-rounder, double barrel is "I want this fucker turned into mist"

hollow ibex
uneven wigeon
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For my primary i use a comvbat knife i rely on bleed stacks and backstabs

quick shell
uneven wigeon
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Whats wrong with combat knife?

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I just zoom through enemies and kill in style

quick shell
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I'm a vile and hateful little beast and I remember dealing with knife zealots back in 2023

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that's what's wrong with combat knife

uneven wigeon
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Zealots are just rlly strong in general

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But they are chads too

quick shell
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what's the crit rate with double barrel then

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does it roll crit seperately for each pellet or for all of them at once per shot?

tribal dawn
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The weapon customization mod was finally updated. I can finally change the sight of my infantry lasgun again.

true jackal
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it's crit rate is the defualt iirc as well

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so 10% for veteran

quick shell
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seems like a fairly low crit rate to then take a crit blessing no?

true jackal
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weapon specialist has a garenteed crit + vet can jack crit higher then 10% that's just the base

quick shell
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oh yeah I just stopped to read WS

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3 melee kills will guarantee a crit

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just, with no other external effects

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nvm ignore me

true jackal
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without WS you need scattershot for it to work well like that

tulip shoal
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which helbores the best one to use?

quick shell
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holy shit

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i fixed my blessings

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this is so goated

hollow ibex
hasty grove
quick shell
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ala knife zealot moment

pine plume
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Tbh I haven't had a nice knife zealot moment in a while

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I miss them

hasty grove
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Still preferable than having a Psyker on your team

pine plume
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Idk what you're talking about, psyker is goated

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Except when it isn't, but still

hasty grove
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Pyskers are too strong and I dislike playing with them

pine plume
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Then there's only one thing for it

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Become the psyker

hasty grove
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I have self respect

hollow ibex
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Barrel all psykers 🙂‍↕️

quick shell
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ok

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I realised I had

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uuuh

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scattershot

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not flechette

quick shell
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and the db fucks infinitely harder with flechette

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Idk how i made that mistake

hollow ibex
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Oh good you swapped it out

quick shell
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yeah no I didn't mean to

hollow ibex
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Yeah flechette helps big time

quick shell
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it feels so good now

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no more surviving on a sliver

winter grove
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Would be using brauto be a bad idea on veteran

torn moat
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No. Vet is good with most weapons.

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Brauto is decent if you build for it. Though definitely not meta.

winter grove
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It just feels like 14 loadouts on my vet isn't enough

gilded pike
candid lantern
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What go to melee weapon? atrox or dueling sword? runnning shoutie

sharp epoch
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recon lasgun atp is just worse hivescum

pliant surge
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How do I change shotgun ammo

gilded pike
sharp epoch
sharp epoch
gilded pike
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any chance of a link to idiotproof build for that esp bolt pistol? ^^

sharp epoch
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I could orobably just make it cause the vet meta build is all pretty similar

mystic pilot
gilded pike
sharp epoch
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Something like this would be fine, I prefer a more melee centric build because vets ranged is limited by ammo unless you go a recon build thats just worse hive scum

gilded pike
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hmm, and stats for dueling adn bp?

mystic pilot
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@tulip shoal

Mk IIIa = faster, less base damage and ammo consumption, slightly worse armor penetration
Mk V = fastest, lowest charged damage but highest uncharged damage

There are differences in their special attacks (bayonnet) and their sights but you can't change them or add a scope, by default.
You can with mods though. Legacy of Vrak skin add a hooded front sight.
tall torrent
hollow ibex
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what is this from

tall torrent
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but neither is that great for vet tbh

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boltpistol is not good at 1 taps (never been)

gilded pike
tall torrent
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and DS is disastrously bad at mixed horde clear

mystic pilot
hollow ibex
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they have the same cleave

gilded pike
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...wait so what works well for melee? I'm comfy with recon lasgun so if it can be run in havocs I'd be interested in a workable build for it

hollow ibex
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it's just a matter of highest damage and slowest vs. fastest but lowest damage really

tall torrent
hollow ibex
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and the bayone on IV sucking ass

tall torrent
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by pretty significant margin

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DS is better dodge & movement but u have basically no mixed horde clear and can only poke at carapace/boss well

mystic pilot
hollow ibex
mystic pilot
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what parts

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it never said bayonets were good on helbore, only that there's difference with them between the marks

hollow ibex
tall torrent
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ammo consumption is not the same

mystic pilot
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yeah

hollow ibex
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ok nvm then

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it's just the penetration

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and the guide in general being poorly-worded and vague

tall torrent
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ADMs are also nearly identical between them

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IV has a bit higher carapace ADM I think?

hollow ibex
tall torrent
hollow ibex
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didn't realize the faster ones had less ammo used on charged shots

tall torrent
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I have grinded out
all intro sections (with updated videos for illustration)
all vet talent sections (updated to new format)
all vet melee weapons (updated to new format)
all vet ranged weapons (updated to new format)
all curios (updated to new format)
in the past week

mystic pilot
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does deal slightly less damage depending

tall torrent
hollow ibex
hollow ibex
mystic pilot
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can you link me to the guide you got the screen cap from?@tall torrent

mystic pilot
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oh

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my bad

hollow ibex
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soon tm

tall torrent
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but I can send u stuff u need

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it's only missing
vet builds (prob just 3)
other human classes' talents
other human classes' weapons

hollow ibex
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you're covering that much from other classes?

tall torrent
mystic pilot
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so yeah V shoot faster, low ammo consume, but can deal less damage in charged shot

hollow ibex
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nice

mystic pilot
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IIIa feel good to me so far. I guess if I tried IV i would find it a bit slow firing and consume ammo too much for my own liking

tall torrent
mystic pilot
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whew, I salute your efforts man

hollow ibex
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please explain in excruciating detail how shit crowbar is

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thank you

gilded pike
hollow ibex
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if you want to use a gun for horde clear, HIV is right there

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don't play vet for that

mystic pilot
tall torrent
mystic pilot
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do all three marks have same battery capacity or it does differ?

tall torrent
mystic pilot
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thanks

gilded pike
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I feel a bit like I should just follow the leader on this 😂

hollow ibex
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vet shines as a hybrid class

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so going weapon specialist with big investment on bottom right

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is the metaslave approach

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and run powersword + double barrel/plasma

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and VOC ofc

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vet hasn't been a ranged class in years

gilded pike
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...ah

hollow ibex
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though yes you can run mostly ranged setups, but it's not the focus of vet anymore

gilded pike
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That's kind of insane 😂

hollow ibex
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if you want to run all ranged in havoc

mystic pilot
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you can do stuff like boltpistol/laspistol and PowerSword/Chainsword or such (Commissar/Officer/Sergeant way)

hollow ibex
#

helbore is prob the best option

gilded pike
#

yeeesh

#

But yeah in that case, uh, is there a website build you'd recommend for a Havoc Vet

#

I guess for plasma/power sword as the one that keeps some flavor...

hollow ibex
gilded pike
#

Roger ty

hollow ibex
#

generic build with 2 points for VOC or ES

tall torrent
mystic pilot
#

👀

lapis osprey
#

is havoc 40 broken? There is no hitsound cue(the sound before u about to get hit) sometimes

fair shale
#

The audio engine is

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You notice it more the higher diff you go into and the more enemies it has to process

lapis osprey
#

and they off for the holidays whatthefuck_heresy

fair shale
#

This isn't like, new tbh

hollow ibex
#

fucking europeans actually getting holidays reeeee

tall torrent
livid sphinx
#

Does Enhanced Targetting Priority also extend whenever you kill an elite in Exe stance?

gilded pike
fair shale
#

Executioner's Stance

gilded pike
#

ah

fair shale
#

Left side ability

gilded pike
#

bit unsure where the "ideal" place to put those last 2 points is, assuming voice of command

fair shale
#

VoC is easier to use

#

Exe Stance is normally better if you can use it ime

gilded pike
#

Is "On Your Toes" worth it or are other options better

#

eg: Longshot

fair shale
#

Remind me where on your toes is rq

gilded pike
fair shale
#

I don't use that, personally

#

I find vet has enough toughness gain to not need it, especially with Exe

#

I don't use longshot either tho normally fwiw

gilded pike
#

roger, ty

livid sphinx
#

Yo, you guys have any idea if the left node for exe stance also extends its duration for team mates?

fair shale
#

Afaik it stays up for them as long as you have it up

#

But I'm a greedy bastard who does not share ES

livid sphinx
#

Ah alright. Well its good to know just in case

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Cuz I feel like it would be helpful in havocs

maiden vector
#

I wonder 1 thing

#

Why in Immortal Imperium, and all tracks with choir from it, women choir sings "Fabious Bail" but in russian/serbian/polish

grave hawk
#

mk3 or mk6 powersword

hollow ibex
#

6 is objectively better

grave hawk
#

which weapon do we like paired with plasma

tall torrent
grave hawk
#

i feel like i dont have enough dodges

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or is it more a push weapon

tall torrent
livid sphinx
#

DS brother

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mk iv

grave hawk
hollow ibex
#

the preferred weapon of shitters, duelling sword

livid sphinx
#

Imagine Space Marines using Duelling Swords to destroy the enemies of the Imperium

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Even the Emperor wouldn't have gotten wounded and killed Horus asap if only he used a DS

fringe shard
#

Is shock maul + combat shotgun (slugs) viable for havoc? Or is DS + Plasma what I should take? If I take the DS I would want mobility as the dump stat ya?

Club + shotty is my favorite loadout but I don’t want to troll runs either.

junior badge
#

Might be more difficult to pull off in higher havoc difficulties but it should be viable provided you have the skill

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DS dump stat would be cleave, as the difference between min and max is negligible

fringe shard
#

Ahh ok good to know, I assumed mobility bc I believe you get max dodges at 60%

junior badge
#

80% mobility will give you .89 sprint speed and +8% dodge distance

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Compared to 60% which gives .80 spring speed and +6% dodge distance

fringe shard
#

Fair enough, appreciate it!

junior badge
#

Np!

verbal osprey
#

Why is the duelling sword good?

hollow ibex
#

i'd say it's pretty overrated

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yes, it's got good mobility, it's easy to use, and has good single target capabilities

#

but power sword is strictly stronger

#

power sword and dsword on the opposite ends of the horde clear spectrum

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psword = god tier horde clear

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dsword = no

tame lodge
#

It has better block efficiency than some 2 handed weapons

faint beacon
#

Yknow the weapons that are supposedly supposed to be good at that getting outclassed by a toothpick

silver patrol
#

i don't think two handed weapons are supposed to be good at blocking

tame lodge
#

You have 2 hands on it

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You have better strength behind it

silver patrol
#

true, but have you considered the duelling sword has a mighty handguard

tame lodge
#

Notice how it's called handguard and not handsguard

silver patrol
#

i think blocking would still be easier with a duelling sword than with a two handed weapon tho

livid sphinx
tall torrent
azure narwhal
#

Though there are few games that ever take this into account

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Much less something in the design direction of darktide

silver patrol
#

it was a joke

azure narwhal
#

Joke? In a 40k environment?

tall torrent
#

shud I publish guide now

primal zealot
pine plume
vale nova
#

What's the best blessing for power sword

tame lodge
#

Power Cycler + Sunder/Brutal Momentum

south river
#

What's the best current Vet weapon specialist build?

trim badger
mystic lodge
mystic lodge
#

Gonna tell my kids this was me during Covid

agile mortar
#

Ah yes
swapping between cosmetics

#

wot's the dump stat for Lucius Lasgun?

#

same for the shovel

unreal nova
agile mortar
#

and Lasgun?

unreal nova
#

Better wait for someone else on it.

agile mortar
#

yeah Helbore

covert shell
#

is the plasma bug fixed

buoyant aurora
# agile mortar yeah Helbore

Stability, it's pretty much pointless, ammo as well since you won't likely run out of ammo if you use that no ammo consumption on crit talent

#

Still would go with stability tho

mortal zinc
#

Need to make another DC build. Especially since my skill trees got reset. I guess I could try the skirmisher build again with dbl/dc/smokes or shredders

rancid dragon
#

How’s everyone

agile mortar
#

Wots dc

hollow ibex
#

Devils claw prob

mortal zinc
#

Devil Claw, yeah.

#

Personal favorite melee weapon

#

Mk4 DC, have a build on every class that can run it

mystic pilot
hollow ibex
#

That's only true for helbore

#

And laspis

gilded wraith
#

Did the braced autoguns get a change to number of dodges?

mystic pilot
#

So other lasguns need stability?

gilded wraith
#

I thought I read about one, but gameslantern is still showing 2.

hollow ibex
hollow ibex
gilded wraith
rancid dragon
#

How’s everyone

#

Where is everyone?

true jackal
#

most NA probably at work

mystic pilot
#

or getting ready for winter vacation

modest stag
#

J*bs

crimson wyvern
#

I love darktides playerbase I love that they all leave when they get downed

#

youre all so impotant! your time is sooo important :DDDD

agile mortar
#

Differences between MKIII and MKVII shovels? Please don't just say "Attack Patterns", I wanna know what each is actually good for. Especially because I currently have an MKIII shovel and if I change it to MKVII I won't be able to change it back
actually, simpler question
which mark is best for crowds
I have a Lucius for single targets

hollow ibex
#

You can freely change between marks as long as you have the mark unlocked btw

agile mortar
#

yeah
I don't have MK3 unlocked yet

#

what are 7 and 3 good at?

hollow ibex
#

3 is light spam for horde clear, and heavy folded attacks for carapace

#

and single target

agile mortar
#

and 1 is full horde?

hollow ibex
#

both 7 and 3 are folding shovels, but 3 is much more focused on using folded attacks

#

its latches are very fast

#

7 has a delay after latching

#

but has closer to 1's moveset with L H horde clear, and arguably better horde clear than 3

hollow ibex
#

it's just different

#

relies on push attack and lights

#

for single target

#

not as good as 3 and 7 against crushers, but prob fairly close on smaller elites

mystic pilot
#

interesting the bayonet cleave stat on Mk IV Helbore is 6.5 while the other 2 marks are 3

hollow ibex
#

(IV's bayonet still sucks ass KEKW_ogryn )

mystic pilot
#

yeah its stagger chances are lower than IIIa and V vs three target types. the worst loss is against Maniac. Only 5 vs 8.8 on other marks. The other two types very minimal reduce by 0.3/1

agile yew
#

Just played my first Duelling Sword Vet game (was around back when it was psyker only before) and while its nice to onepokehit to death various elites and specials, its dogwater when it comes to dealing with basic hordes

#

1½ year ago i was mostly using Rashad axe instead, hit one trash mob in head, its buddies instadie too

hollow ibex
#

DS really is best as a psyker weapon

agile yew
#

Did they nerf Columnus MK V or something? That used to be meta pick for many classes

tame lodge
#

No what they did was change names

agile mortar
#

dump stat on Falchion?

hollow ibex
tame lodge
#

The old Columnus is now Vraks5

hollow ibex
#

yeah instead of CAG it's now called VAG

agile mortar
#

why does everyone just hate mobility

hollow ibex
#

cuz it doesn't affect your damage

tame lodge
#

Hate is a strong word

agile mortar
#

counterpoint
I wanna fast

spare geyser
#

Anyone know if there are any interesting modifiers which affect the Bayonet? Does attackspeed affect bayonet?

tame lodge
#

It's more that 53% mobility gets you all your available dodges

#

And anything past that doesn't add much

agile yew
#

So is Vraks5 still good and commonly used?

tame lodge
#

Yeah

primal zealot
#

yes and no

mystic pilot
#

go fastah and clobber everyone

agile mortar
#

combat shotty dump?

hollow ibex
#

you'll never guess...

agile mortar
#

goddammit

fair shale
agile mortar
#

fair

#

also question

fair shale
#

Especially compared to other stats

agile mortar
#

on Plasma, isn't the optimal stat like
thermal resist 66% and charge 74?

mystic pilot
#

so dump mobility and get all other stats to 80

agile yew
#

I went 80% mobi on DS and 60% cleave

fair shale
fair shale
#

Cause that thing doesn't really cleave

mystic pilot
#

living up to its name "Dueling" Sword

#

"I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL, GOOD SIR!"

#

😛

fair shale
mystic pilot
fair shale
#

Yeah, 60 mobi

mystic pilot
#

thats just from the builder

#

and yes the context was shotgun 😛

#

mobility at 60

mystic pilot
#

at 80

#

yeah very small boost

mystic pilot
#

lol he set his nickname to that?

agile mortar
#

got it

tame lodge
#

Yeah we couldn't set a bot so this was the closest thing we had

agile mortar
#

just name some dude that

inland orchid
#

that is some dude named that

inland orchid
hollow ibex
#

dedicating his account to community service

faint beacon
#

Damn positive it’s an alt lmao

#

But that’s still fucking hilarious

#

Now we just need Optml Ripper 66Ammo for Ogryns

fair shale
#

Real?

faint beacon
#

Yes 1 shell = 1 BA stack

fair shale
#

Neat

faint beacon
#

So the actual continuous fire blessings immediately proc instead of 2 shells each

fair shale
#

What do you set to 74?

faint beacon
#

That was the one I didn’t recall

#

I know I have a god roll ripper just I’m not home

faint beacon
tall torrent
#

also are u gonna do the penance sections in guide

#

cuz I'm going through last round checks

#

before publishing

#

@faint beacon

fair shale
#

Thank you

mystic pilot
faint beacon
tall torrent
faint beacon
#

Honestly go for it

#

Seeing we’re what

#

Fuck a year behind?

tall torrent
#

I did update legit everything in a week lol

faint beacon
#

The veteran mains demand new information

faint beacon
#

The ungodly amount of information lmao

tame lodge
#

That's a whole ass domain expansion

distant plaza
sly orchid
tall torrent
orchid hemlock
tall torrent
#

kuli told me TGH is bad abbreviation of toughness

#

so gonna change all TGH in guide to toughness

fair shale
#

Tbh I think you should be as direct with as few abbreviations as possible

#

Or you open up the guide with

#

A key of sorts

#

TGH=Toughness

hollow ibex
#

Seems pretty obvious

tall torrent
#

now it's just
global damage
melee damage
ranged damage
near damage
far damage
etc etc etc

#

instead of
Tdmg, Mdmg, Rdmg, Ndmg, etc

fair shale
#

Imo very good

#

The best guide can be understood with no prior knowledge ime

clear palm
#

I've been running Infantry Lasgun build the past few days (Mostly Auric Event + Occasional Maelstrom) and it's been such a fun time honestly I've been sleeping on this thing so much.

narrow frost
#

its so fun

#

it even holds up in havoc

#

still has its 1 taps on gunners and specials

proven silo
#

hello, new hero and to game ,where me find meta builds ?

quick shell
#

someone send "The Build"

clear palm
#

I could imagine if you can really hit those back to back headshots yeah it must be fun in Havoc

tall torrent
#

because after the first swing that hits enemies, it starts checking for combo chain time

#

if u don't atk within the combo chain time, when the combo expires or is reset, it's also lost

#

can u record

#

yea pls do

#

curious to how that works

stable orbit
#

Be me
Beta player with 1k hrs
Hear about this cool new havoc mode, want to try it out
Get told I have to do an auric maelstrom
Okay, I've done plenty of those before
Get it done
Get told I have to wait 15 hrs to play havoc mode
Okay, it's late anyway. I'll come back tomorrow
Fatshark releases hot"fix"
Get told I have to do ANOTHER auric mael
Get told I have to wait ANOTHER 15 hrs

The Darktide experience in a nutshell

hollow ibex
#

don't worry, you're not missing out by not playing the meme game mode that is havoc

tall torrent
#

is this with power cycler III or IV?

quick shell
#

and THEN maybe u can do real shit

tall torrent
#

maybe smth wrong with auto swing mod

quick shell
#

if u can fuck with party finder

tall torrent
#

no, the tier of power cycler blessing equipped

#

ur using auto swing mod?

#

try without

#

prob the mod's problem

hollow ibex
#

another skitarius W 🙂‍↕️

sharp epoch
#

mods = cheats

#

its because your canceling your combo

#

same reason block and getting hit make you lose charge

#

theres probably a longer delay between light 2 and light 3

hasty grove
#

What is considered the best gear for veteran?

mystic pilot
#

depend on what you want to do

hasty grove
#

I’m just lasgun and chainsword and really like these weapons but I feel like FatShark makes alot of weapons objectively better than others

mystic pilot
#

chainsword doesnt do well when up against enemies that has armor. So either changing up the melee or better yet choosing the right ranged option. Like Helbore Lasgun

#

and getting Krak grenade in talent tree

sleek snow
bold sierra
#

man, EU players sure love their kraks xD, no issue with that, it's just that in Hong Kong, you mostly see smokes

faint beacon
#

NA being shredder spam

hasty grove
sleek snow
mystic pilot
#

😛

primal zealot
#

yeaj

#

best skin

prime wyvern
#

trying to figure out my build, and ive landed on recon lasgun

#

which pairs better with it, power sword or combat blade

umbral scaffold
#

I will never switch off of my beloved Shovel and Helbore, don’t need anything but that fr fr

austere mica
tall torrent
#

I’ll let that 1 sneak pass

austere mica
#

Which

#

Shovel

austere mica
#

Take that as a yes

tall torrent
#

I guess 2 then

austere mica
#

Finally tried melee exe and this is what I ended up with

#

I finally understand combat shotgun

umbral scaffold
#

Hehehehe lasgun go PSSH

mystic pilot
#

Krieg combat engineers use shotguns 🤪

umbral scaffold
#

Combat engineer?
You mean nerd?

austere mica
#

Trying to decide if I want extra ammo or OFB

umbral scaffold
#

If repeatedly hitting machinery doesn’t fix it, then it’s not worth fixing

mystic pilot
#

Thats not what a combat engineer ism...

austere mica
#

Krieg memers when I how them their modern box

mystic pilot
#

They break shit so the soldiers can get in

austere mica
#

(none of their shitposts are in it)

umbral scaffold
austere mica
#

I need that excerpt of some krieg formation on vraks getting absolutely destroyed, fragging their commisars, then running

umbral scaffold
#

Cowardice, betrayal of our duty, dereliction of any and all mercy

austere mica
#

As it turns out its kinda hard to get people to charge artillery

umbral scaffold
#

Sounds like a lack of faith to me

austere mica
#

Oh shit I do have it

umbral scaffold
#

Hmmm

I should be granted one Exterminatus declaration for whatever planet those Krieg posers reside on

austere mica
#

Vraks

#

You know

#

Their home world

umbral scaffold
#

I don’t actually, I’m relatively fresh to Warhammer tbh

austere mica
#

I can tell

crimson wyvern
#

all these skins, none of them portray the hellbore IV

#

why dont they want us to have long gun

mystic pilot
#

um what? you say IV has no skins in game?

topaz lance
umbral scaffold
#

I want my bayonet the LOOOOONG way

gilded pike
#

so it'll be months at least

umbral scaffold
#

In fact just attach a Zweihander to the underbarrel

mystic pilot
#

im waiting for the legacy of vrak

#

the helbore skin from that give it a hooded front sight

#

and the cool seals

austere mica
#

Just use weapon customization

mystic pilot
austere mica
#

What

#

Its an availible solution for PC players who want better sights and/or free skins

mystic pilot
#

well where are the mods?

austere mica
mystic pilot
#

"at own risk"

austere mica
#

Ok

#

Its mods

#

Its always at your own risk

#

Risk in this case meaning half hour troubleshooting sessions every major update

mystic pilot
#

okay so lemme see weapon customization

austere mica
#

Go look it up on nexus

mystic pilot
#

any mods i should look at that add to the atmosphere of the setting?

sleek snow
austere mica
#

Yeah mine is 90% ui and 10% client bug fixing

#

or is it the other way around

mystic pilot
#

oh any particular bugs I should look out for?

tall torrent
#

u might be looking for reshade mods?

crimson wyvern
#

but im pretty sure i have all of em

#

for hellbore atleast

mystic pilot
#

not "improve lightning there and shades there"

austere mica
#

How would a mod do that

tall torrent
dreamy saffron
#

with ps what range weapon you all enjoy the most? torn between plasma, bolter, bistol

austere mica
#

Ps is lame

#

But agri combat shotgun is cool

#

Juice it up with vet and its scary

still dove
#

does anyone have a good recon lasgun build

hollow ibex
junior grail
#

I wanna make a Vigil build, got any suggestions? Thank you!

still dove
#

do you guys prefer shredder grenades or kraks on a helbore build

junior grail
hollow ibex
#

yeah kraks cover the same niche as helbore

#

so it's redundant to take both

still dove
#

thank you

still dove
#

does anyone know what skin for helbore has the best sights?

junior grail
mystic pilot
#

Legacy of Vraks

#

It has a hooded front sight

junior grail
#

Yea I forgor the name

still dove
mystic pilot
#

Cosmetic items in shop are on rotations

#

@still dove a new rotation arrive tomorrow

fair shale
#

Is there a list of all the stuff in the slop shop somewhere

mystic pilot
#

Maybe, maybe not it'll be there

still dove
#

thank you

hollow ibex
#

Crosshair remap best skin thumbsup_ogryn

mystic pilot
livid sphinx
#

Man the combat shotgun sucks

narrow frost
#

True

livid sphinx
#

I've never seen such an atrocity

#

Like it feels weak and is also actually weak

#

Can't even kill anything in one shot at point blank range

hollow ibex
mystic pilot
mystic pilot
hollow ibex
#

i prefer open sights personally

#

i don't like the square hood on vraks

#

if it was like kar98's hood then i'd be more interested

hybrid plover
#

How can you even say something like that?

spice osprey
#

why is damnation so abysmally hard since the last i've played

#

i'm never reaching auric atp

tame lodge
#

#youfelloff

spice osprey
#

i did fall off its crazy 😭

narrow frost
#

alot of new players

#

and damnation is the place where people not comfortable with auric go to

hollow ibex
#

new heresy KEKW_ogryn

spark helm
# spice osprey why is damnation so abysmally hard since the last i've played

Damnation is right around the time where hard simple basics start to matter a bit more. Take your time with things and just brush up on your defense and target priorities you've been building up this entire time. Drop pings more often if you don't already, maybe even use comms if you're comfortable enough.

Maybe adjust some of your view around other people's blindspot so you can squeeze in kills, reposition in ways to give yourself more of a view of where everything else might be and eventually damnation especially is a breeze.

Auric is where the simple checks can be more heavily enforced so you'll learn the gaps in your own play sooner from any failure.

deft cosmos
#

Combat axe with brutal momentum or Power sword make Damnation+ feel super smooth as long as I dodge correctly

#

As long as you can handle a horde without taking chip health damage you should be chillin' most of the time ime

#

Also if a special appears, kill it instantly with your gun

#

Your team yearns for you to kill disablers/gunner at range as soon as they're within line of sight

light crypt
#

Quick question, I'm having a hard time trying to find a good melee weapon that's essentially just a generalist in all aspects and idk where to start

deft cosmos
#

Combat Axe

primal zealot
#

shovel

blazing jetty
#

Shovel is good

deft cosmos
#

Shovel also goes crazy

primal zealot
#

its the most generalist

livid sphinx
#

I love how everyone here knows that DS is what he's asking for but no one said it because its OP af KEKW_ogryn

deft cosmos
#

Just so crushingly overtuned

fair shale
#

Its a horrible generalist tbh

deft cosmos
#

I wish it was worse

light crypt
fair shale
#

Patricians taste generalist is tac axe ime

austere mica
#

Power sword

#

Why are we forgetting power sword

#

It is the best weapon in the game

light crypt
#

Hell I've been using a hellbore my whole time playing bc bayonet goes stabby stabby

light crypt
austere mica
#

Yeah

deft cosmos
#

I said power sword like six minutes ago aiyah

austere mica
#

And its still the best

#

That nerf was before time though

deft cosmos
#

Nerfed from S tier to S tier

austere mica
#

So it doesn't matter

sharp epoch
deft cosmos
#

Shovel solos

light crypt
livid sphinx
#

Knife is fun but you gotta prepare for some carpal tunnel

austere mica
#

You have Sunder with its casual 400% cleave buff and armor slide or bromentum which just ignores cleave

deft cosmos
#

Bromentum is the main breadwinner for my family

blazing jetty
#

Power sword's cleave is already godly so dumping that makes practically no difference

light crypt
#

Idk why I didn't just ask here in the first place for advice. I've been looking at stuff blindly for the past hour trying to figure out my build and what weapons I want to use

deft cosmos
#

No you were right

#

Whatever weapon makes your brain tingle is the one

austere mica
#

Yeah

livid sphinx
#

If you want something that is OP then play the Duelling Sword

austere mica
#

Power sword