I don't like it though so you need to ask someone else on it.
#veteran-class
unreal nova
maiden vector
With what I got, I can 3 tap crusher in head
unreal nova
With what I got, I can 3 tap crusher in head
Auric?
maiden vector
Auric?
Yes
Vet have ping button damage buff
If you manage to have 6 buffs + ping crusher with 6 debuffs at the same time, bolt pistol 3 taps it
Considering that not only you would damage it, you can easily just 1 tap it
unreal nova
If you manage to have 6 buffs + ping crusher with 6 debuffs at the same time, bo...
Yes, but how would you deal with 10 of them?
maiden vector
Yes, but how would you deal with 10 of them?
Well.. grenade
unreal nova
Well.. *grenade*
But really, the Bistol is more a specialist hunter gun. But it's not havoc so whatever is fine for you.
red portal
maiden vector
But really, the Bistol is more a specialist hunter gun. But it's not havoc so wh...
I mean, yes, but I can do more damage to crushers with that thing and other stuff is already die from 1-2 shots
tall torrent
cleave targets
maiden vector
Isn't cleave useful?
maiden vector
Dayum
tall torrent
You only use it activated which has infinite cleave
it doesn't have infinite cleave
tall torrent
Isn't cleave useful?
10.9 vs 11.7, difference is negligible
maiden vector
I just got 60% mobility sword
kind spruce
Activated cleave is still mega high
tall torrent
wouldn't call either 10.9 or 11.7 mega high either
lime rampart
Did they fix the plasma stutter yet?
silver patrol
you better hope they make a patch this week or you won't be able to play with plasma for a month
cyan verge
maiden vector
How nowdays ppl farm plasteel?
silver patrol
ation
maiden vector
undone jungle
hello vets
broken reef
tame lodge
stuck geyser
did the patch fix plasma gun?
stuck geyser
dang
true jackal
did the patch fix plasma gun?
should have yes
they forgor to add it to patch notes but have updated them now
dapper coyote
psykers just do the meme:
Blows up mind with pancake,
Muh fucking pancake.
- Psykers mind goes pop instead lmao
proud jolt
How nowdays ppl farm plasteel?
I like to do mortis trails for my farm
dapper coyote
How nowdays ppl farm plasteel?
Usually i play havoc atleast one match regardless of the level, low or not then aurics
trim badger
did the patch fix plasma gun?
I left a commnt and they added that
So yes it's fixed now
molten cedar
I really wish you could prestige classes
trim badger
I really wish you could prestige classes
Just get true level mod
molten cedar
Xbox player
trim badger
Rip
stuck geyser
I left a commnt and they added that
niiice
like the most important fix of them all lol
trim badger
Vet players when they can't use Plasma Gun for 1 week:
hybrid flame
Didn't see a fix for plasma tanking frames
unreal nova
Didn't see a fix for plasma tanking frames
Pretty sure hotfix isn't out yet? Didn't get it on Steam.
hybrid flame
I just read the notes
unreal nova
There is a fix, at least the forum thread.
lyric bramble
Vet players when they can't use Plasma Gun for 1 week:
I purposely overheat it to bomb heretics. 😎
trim badger
Didn't see a fix for plasma tanking frames
It does show now
Fixed performance issues related to the overheat/peril gain/loss in certain weapons.
hybrid flame
Aah, it was just vague
verbal osprey
Has anyone else encountered a problem with guns still firing even if the trigger was released or automatically firing when exiting ADS?
vale nova
Is Recon Lasgun - Accatran Mk XIV good for horde clearing?
trim badger
I don't think any ranged weapon is worth to shoot at hordes on vet
unreal nova
I don't think any ranged weapon is worth to shoot at hordes on vet
Plasma, to get to the trapper.
Or ranged elites.
trim badger
Plasma, to get to the trapper.
That's shooting through the horde, not at a horde!!!
dry cloak
Is Recon Lasgun - Accatran Mk XIV good for horde clearing?
You should not shoot hordes in general
dry cloak
I don't think any ranged weapon is worth to shoot at hordes on vet
Shotguns
unreal nova
That's shooting __through__ the horde, not __at__ a horde!!!
Technicalities. Just make sure you kill an elite with it. XD
true jackal
I mean in general it depends on what kinda horde we talking about
dry cloak
I mean sometimes free crit from zarona hipfire is nice for quick softening if you are alone for whatever reason
dry cloak
I mean in general it depends on what kinda horde we talking about
Horde enenies as in pox wslkers and infected people
Because basic melee units are ,,bruisers,,
Or usually refered to as such
true jackal
shooting just base poxies? manstopper db yeah
manstopper zarona as well if you are running tat
mystic pilot
Shotguns
Sooo fun
Hipfire splash target and aiming down good for single targets
I should consider doing combat shotgun + axe as my second loadout
upper dock
Fixed performance issues related to the overheat/peril gain/loss in certain weap...
was this not just about the staves not causing peril explosions?
mystic pilot
My main loadout is hellbore lasgun + shovel with shredder
true jackal
ngl, the combat shotguns have pretty damn good boss damage
mystic pilot
So second is combat shotgun + axe with krak?
true jackal
can run any grenade in that set up, if you are comfortable at dealing with carapce with an axe
vale nova
Okay is Recon Lasgun Accatran Mk XIV a good gun in general?
trim badger
was this not just about the staves not causing peril explosions?
There's 2 lines now in the post
Fixed majority of weapon and ability overheat/peril explosion not working.
Fixed performance issues related to the overheat/peril gain/loss in certain weapons
trim badger
Okay is Recon Lasgun Accatran Mk XIV a good gun in general?
Is that the fast firing one?
vale nova
Is that the fast firing one?
Yup
trim badger
ngl, the combat shotguns have pretty damn good boss damage
I do use Combat Shotgun in H40
Love shooting behind burgles
trim badger
I'd assume you wouldn't want to use any combat shotgun other than agri xddd
dry cloak
So second is combat shotgun + axe with krak?
When it comes to combat shotties. You want either agrippina or zarona. Accatran is for mad men
true jackal
zarona's a bit less is still very good
dry cloak
I'd assume you wouldn't want to use any combat shotgun other than agri xddd
On h40 sure. On damnation i can use everything
My skill has fallen
trim badger
On h40 sure. On damnation i can use everything
On damnation you can do grenade only run xddd
dry cloak
Simpky because i dont have that much time to play than before
dry cloak
On damnation you can do grenade only run xddd
I value fun higher than in game resources
mystic pilot
When it comes to combat shotties. You want either agrippina or zarona. Accatran ...
I think my shotgun is agrippina
true jackal
rip the fire wall hack shotgun
trim badger
I think my shotgun is agrippina
Does it load a slug shot upon using special?
vale nova
Can you guys suggest a melee weapon to compliment the Recon Lasgun
mystic pilot
Does it load a slug shot upon using special?
I dont know. At least i think when i used special it didnt spit fire or explode shell
I have done only one run with it
true jackal
Can you guys suggest a melee weapon to compliment the Recon Lasgun
power sword is the boring answer
dry cloak
Can you guys suggest a melee weapon to compliment the Recon Lasgun
Combat axe
mystic pilot
I mean at least i want to do thematic without gimping myself too much. Hence the kriegsman hellbore + shovel
And now Krieg combat engineer shotgun + axe
vale nova
Combat axe
Any specific variant ?
true jackal
rashad for combat axe
vale nova
Which weapon combo is the best for veteran?
mystic pilot
Depend on your playstyle
vale nova
something + power sword really
Is power sword that good?
mystic pilot
"brokey" meaning its OP
true jackal
with the sunder blessing while active thing has like 40 cleave (that's about 40 pox walkers) and will kill most of them in that one swing
and can kill crushers very quickly
the only thing it somewhat sacrifices is mobility (and fun becuase you have to spam the activate)
vale nova
with the sunder blessing while active thing has like 40 cleave (that's about 40 ...
So I can use that with recon lasgun aswell right
true jackal
can use it with anything, I don't, as I don't find it a fun weapon to us at all
activate heavy heavy
activate heavy heavy
over and over
dry cloak
And now Krieg combat engineer shotgun + axe
Thematic buulds are fine and dandy but after some time you will play with every weapon available
mystic pilot
Dont worry it'll be a good bit before i run out of loadout ideas Kreigsmen can have. Especially with the codex giving them a good list of wargear.
Eventually ill do chainsword and power sword but i would like it if there was an officer costume to go with them 🤪
dry cloak
My vet is based on Polands best soldiers parody
dry cloak
Chainsword is often used by people as a tool iirc
true jackal
it is a chainsaw
undone jungle
its a very very reliable chainsaw that can cut thru metal
mystic pilot
The only thing that isnt in game for veteran are flamer and meltagun right?
true jackal
missing hellguns (or w/e the automatic heavy lasgun that normal troppers use is), heavy stubbers, and those
and a bunch of melee weapons
mystic pilot
Yeah in codex Death Korps get just about what the veteran have access to
mystic pilot
missing hellguns (or w/e the automatic heavy lasgun that normal troppers use is)...
What about "long-las"? Which is well a sniper version
true jackal
oh yeah that too
mystic pilot
Cant wait to get my hand on a boltgun
Oh grenade launcher too but you know thats taking away from Ogryn
trim badger
Can anyone tell me rashad combos?
distant plaza
tacit sonnet
light for horde
heavy for not horde
mystic pilot
"Death Korps Watchmaster may replace their laspistol and chainsword with 1 boltgun and 1 close combat weapon"
Hell yeah, NCOs and they dress same as their squad mates
true jackal
So it's braindead I see
incredibly
hybrid flame
Shovel gud
strange crow
How do combat knives perform in combat?
Crazy single-target damage by spamming push attack but not the best horde clear
It's still better than DS horde clear lol
mystic pilot
DS?
mystic pilot
Ah which the Krieg cavalry sword is a skin for
Good to know. Lol you would think the dueling sword would be better at hitting several targets than the combat knife just because of its reach
robust herald
if you want both good single target and horde clear, taxe isn't a bad choice
azure narwhal
Good to know. Lol you would think the dueling sword would be better at hitting s...
You can "fix" it with talents even though this won't ever really matter that much, but just for info, weapon specialist + serrated blade pretty much fills in that gap
The bleed paired with the att speed does the job for you
robust herald
never crit damage
crit damage gives you a laughably minimal amount of damage. it's an additive 10% so it ends up really being less than like 3% more damage
go with carapace unyielding for psword, or carapace maniac
mystic pilot
Additive ooof
robust herald
yeahhh the crit damage perk is buttcheeks
only time I ever take crit dmg is on a blessing, the bolt pistol
hollow ibex
Crit damage and flak/carapace?
carayielding
mystic pilot
What's the most up to date talent builder online?
hollow ibex
What's the most up to date talent builder online?
hollow ibex
Well, I make this
what are these translations 😭
and take sunder or brutal momentum
as the second blessing after pc
true jackal
5 rubles
maiden vector
and take sunder or brutal momentum
Why?
hollow ibex
they're both stronger
sunder lets you wreck mixed hordes by vastly increasing your cleave
mystic pilot
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
Thank you
hollow ibex
brumentum lets you kill more per swing on normal hordes
hollow ibex
Bm looks like work with L and H attack, while sunder only on H
Sunders cleave effect is what matters
maiden vector
Anyway, what stat to suffer on Kantrael? Also, what about tunes and skills?
real loom
Anyway, what stat to suffer on Kantrael? Also, what about tunes and skills?
Mobility
dry cloak
Anyway, what stat to suffer on Kantrael? Also, what about tunes and skills?
Why do you want to hurt yourself
maiden vector
Why do you want to hurt yourself
I played up to Orthus update with it and feel fine
Only now I use bolt pistol bc it nice
dry cloak
Orthus update was ages ago
Ilas now if a weapon on madmen and the clueless
Ifnyou want similiar experience go with graia vigi
Seriosly
brave turtle
not on lughts out
true jackal
I like not having carpal tunnel
the convenient and accessible full auto mod
brave turtle
😄
dry cloak
Being flashlight enthusiast is hard
If you want to use las weapons helbore andnrecon lasgun are rihht there
dry cloak
the convenient and accessible full auto mod
If someone wants to mod. Sure
true jackal
real talk, that should be an accessiblity setting not a mod that you have to download
maiden vector
Ehem...
dry cloak
Agreed
maiden vector
Anyway back to gun
maiden vector
Anyway, what stat to suffer on Kantrael? Also, what about tunes and skills?
What to use on tunes and skills?
I have flak + carapace
But I think better would be unyielding or maniac instead of carapace
robust herald
carapace unyielding
maiden vector
Yeah
robust herald
oh then yea flak unyielding
burnt pelican
did they patch the plasma bug?
robust herald
naw
real loom
Flak/unyielding flak/unarmored flak/maniac
true jackal
did they patch the plasma bug?
should be
burnt pelican
sadge 😭
robust herald
why would you do 25% unarmored
mystic pilot
did they patch the plasma bug?
Yes they updated their patch notes to say so
real loom
Idk it used to help with 1 shotting dreg gunnes
hollow ibex
dreg gunner breakpoint prob
robust herald
oh makes sense
burnt pelican
Yes they updated their patch notes to say so
aight ill read them then
real loom
And dreg shooter body shots too
robust herald
I just do flak unyielding for like 90% of my guns besides a select few
maiden vector
And what skills? I have Headhunter + Deadly Accurate, this was top on it long ago
robust herald
like carayielding is nice on helbore
burnt pelican
Yes they updated their patch notes to say so
yeah that feels like a maybe knowing its them we are talking about but ill give it a shot to make sure
maiden vector
Yeeeeeeeee, look at this man, peak fr
robust herald
I really want the commissar hat in rotation
because I wanna do a chainsword bolt pistol build
quick shell
yeah that feels like a maybe knowing its them we are talking about but ill give ...
Report back
dry cloak
because I wanna do a chainsword bolt pistol build
You can do that without premium clothes
robust herald
You can do that without premium clothes
yeah but it's not the same
if I'm gonna 40k nerd out as an imperial guard commissar I wanna 40k nerd out as an imperial guard commissar
tame lodge
Bm looks like work with L and H attack, while sunder only on H
Sunder extra cleave works on all energized attacks
Sunder extra heavy damage only works on heavy attacks
Currently you have no reason to use heavies on Psword 6
maiden vector
Sunder extra cleave works on all energized attacks
Sunder extra heavy damage on...
Well, I tested it and find cool
But man.. I want my flashlight being not meme
dry cloak
if I'm gonna 40k nerd out as an imperial guard commissar I wanna 40k nerd out as...
Not to discourage you but any commisar cosplayer was insufferable jerk that though he could order rest of the team around
mystic pilot
if I'm gonna 40k nerd out as an imperial guard commissar I wanna 40k nerd out as...
At least i can nerd out as a Kreig. Kreig Watchmaster (NCO) use chainsword and pistol as base wargear.
robust herald
Not to discourage you but any commisar cosplayer was insufferable jerk that thou...
eh krieg cosplayers are insufferable too but I take krieg to a bunch of my missions anyway
robust herald
At least i can nerd out as a Kreig. Kreig Watchmaster (NCO) use chainsword and p...
is watchmaster a part of the sets?
mystic pilot
They dress same as the rank and file grunt
mystic pilot
Rule of being a "leader" for combat unit; dont stand out from your subordinates
Of course kreig officers and commisars get to stand out a bit
(probably because they survived too long that they were hoping to die gloriously in battle quickly for The Emperor)
strange crow
Rule of being a "leader" for combat unit; dont stand out from your subordinates
Unless you're Mordian 😎
strange crow
Of maxxing lasgun
Which one?
fair shale
Lowest common denominator faction
spark helm
Of maxxing lasgun
Generally, if your aim is good ilas isn't as bad of a time as ppl need it to be.
strange crow
krieg larpers tend to be dead all the time
Too busy making shovel memes to learn the game
primal zealot
i figure its cus the shovel n helbore require more from the player than most weapons
strange crow
That too
spark helm
I suppose. Shovel is easy enough to understand. Helbore takes a sec to adjust to but it's not a straight ballbust
primal zealot
srsly tho i groan very loudly every time i get a rando krieg larper cus 9/10 times im gonna be scraping them off the floor repeatedly
fair shale
Its a lowest common denominator faction, a lot of people like them.
The more people that are in a sorta filter the more bad ones you'll experience
primal zealot
yea that too
maiden vector
Which one?
Kantrael Mod IX
I'm old man
Damn.. I need to make 2 other lasguns god rolls too..
💀
real loom
Cant you just switch the marks 😗
modest stag
^
maiden vector
Cant you just switch the marks 😗
No, I mean Helbore and Accatran
real loom
No, I mean Helbore and Accatran
Ohh
maiden vector
Helbore not even 10lvl
real loom
If your rich it can be forced max lvl
maiden vector
Only my Kantrael 18 bc I played a lot with it before update
maiden vector
I think I can use it nowdays too
strange crow
Damn.. I need to make 2 other lasguns god rolls too..
Luckily helbore is cracked and recon is pretty good (also easy to pick up)
maiden vector
Even tho I understand Bolt Pistol or Luk is better
strange crow
I think I can use it nowdays too
I mean yeah it's still def usable, but it used to be one of vet's best ranged back in the day
maiden vector
Luckily helbore is cracked and recon is pretty good (also easy to pick up)
I never understood Accatran lasgun
strange crow
Wym?
maiden vector
Like, ammo efficiency is ass
You spray and pray
Maybe I'm stupid or use bad skills
real loom
Have to build crit and use talent that saves ammo on crit
lilac eagle
Maybe I'm stupid or use bad skills
I'm not entirely sure why you'd go the recon over the infantry las tbh
lilac eagle
If recon did the same damage per shot as infantry, it'd be pretty spooky lmao
spark helm
Kantrael can still put in work. The issue is often the pilot, narrow mark choices and the inevitability of havoc outpacing ilas. Before that? Totally fine.
The lies need to stop and people need to dig back in and land their headshots.
strange crow
You spray and pray
That's pretty much it lowk
lilac eagle
Kantrael can still put in work. The issue is often the pilot, narrow mark choice...
Yeh we're, or at least I'm, saying the kantrael is better than the recon las
spark helm
You spray and pray
You can spray and pray, but being deliberate > indiscriminate. Most just exhaust its ammo by going full auto so frequently that they're not managing that situation at all. What is there to manage when someone is magdumping every other chance they get yk?
true jackal
I mean if you are shooting at hordes sure
you ads and thing is laser accurate, aim at heads
spark helm
Yeh we're, or at least I'm, saying the kantrael is better than the recon las
I almost never care for better or worse and just stick to what the weapon is directly capable of. If I had to entertain it, recon goes much further as a weapon by comparison in my experience. Eventually things get to a point where the recon lasgun ends up doing more for less effort, even with more ads play happening in the moment. It can light up monstrocities, it can burn pockets into hordes where needed, it can shred most specials and some elites in a passable amount of time, etc.
true jackal
kills groups of shooters way faster then the infantry
lilac eagle
Do all lasguns pierce horde enemies or just the infantry?
mystic pilot
man its too bad this shotgun pattern
hollow ibex
Do all lasguns pierce horde enemies or just the infantry?
only mk xiv recon las has any meaningful cleave
spark helm
Do all lasguns pierce horde enemies or just the infantry?
Good question idr.
mystic pilot
the Lucius Mark 22c can't be a mere skin for combat shotgun
lilac eagle
I was testing builds in the arena and noticed the slow firing kantrael was piercing like, 3ish of the poxwalkers
Iunno, I've rocked the kantrael since launch and the only thing I have issue with is carapace ogyrns
hollow ibex
I was testing builds in the arena and noticed the slow firing kantrael was pierc...
they only have 1.5 cleave
so maybe one groaner
strange crow
Yeh we're, or at least I'm, saying the kantrael is better than the recon las
If we're including havoc though, this is def not the case
hollow ibex
ilas is just kinda ass in general
maiden vector
I'm not entirely sure why you'd go the recon over the infantry las tbh
I'm not, I use Kantrael
lilac eagle
Yknow what would be fun? Lasguns in lore can kinda 'bore' through stuff if you keep shooting the same spot, imagine a machanic on recons where if you hit the same spot a couple times in a row it does a bit of burst damage
Make them decent vs carapace if you can aim
hollow ibex
i guess that's what brittleness is supposed to represent through something like onslaught for example
otherwise prob too complex of a mechanic for the game atm
real loom
Ppl would hate lasguns being strong
mystic pilot
Yknow what would be fun? Lasguns in lore can kinda 'bore' through stuff if you k...
that's kinda what the hot shot lasgun is; more power to keep the "shot" on hit impact longer
primal zealot
otherwise prob too complex of a mechanic for the game atm
not rly. it would just be like relentless strikes
hollow ibex
not rly. it would just be like relentless strikes
i mean he's asking for the game to keep track of damage to specific parts of armor, which is definitely not something the engine supports rn
relentless strikes is like onslaught
an abstraction
lilac eagle
i mean he's asking for the game to keep track of damage to specific parts of arm...
I mean they track where bullets hit currently
Its how they do the damage model
strange crow
No, bc stub guns already ass
Uhh revolver is the best vet ranged outside of havoc and vigilant autogun is one of the best for havoc
maiden vector
i mean he's asking for the game to keep track of damage to specific parts of arm...
Why? If you shoot you expose flesh or bones and they not get protected by armour
hollow ibex
Why? If you shoot you expose flesh or bones and they not get protected by armour
that's completely visual
means nothing
maiden vector
that's completely visual
I remember that mauler not get armour bonus after I exposed one of his part
maiden vector
Uhh revolver is the best vet ranged outside of havoc and vigilant autogun is one...
Bolt pistol and Bolter literally exists
Also Plasma
dry cloak
Still revolver is up there
With plasma loosing some ground because of heslth buffs
And helbores getting biggest buff in theyre life. Proper ironsights
maiden vector
Reloading without speed reloader is ass
lilac eagle
Simply dont miss and kill everything first, then you've got loads of time to reload
dry cloak
Thats where weapon specialist comes in
maiden vector
And helbores getting biggest buff in theyre life. Proper ironsights
I would do Helbore
But need to end Kantrael first
maiden vector
Simply dont miss and kill everything first, then you've got loads of time to rel...
Bolt Pistol can do same and reload whole mag
strange crow
Bolt pistol and Bolter literally exists
Bolt pistol is generally considered a worse revolver, and boltgun has much more niche application
dry cloak
Bolt pistol is generally considered a worse revolver, and boltgun has much more ...
Sidegrade not worse
lilac eagle
Iunno, boltgun has always seemed kinda goated to me
Horde disruption, anti-armour, long range
maiden vector
for headshots
But on auric it still pretty much 1 tap everything in a head, and if it's not, you have ping button for damage buff
dry cloak
But on auric it still pretty much 1 tap everything in a head, and if it's not, y...
If you you focus target that is
Not everyone is using that
maiden vector
Well, there's keystone and executioner stance
dry cloak
And lasguns get better results from marksmans focus
strange crow
Horde disruption, anti-armour, long range
The first is not something you generally rely on vet ranged for and the other two are done better by revolver. Boltgun in havoc is also only is good at anti-armor if you dump an absurd amount of talent points for it
maiden vector
Indeed, I use bolt pistol and bolter with commander voice
dry cloak
The first is not something you generally rely on vet ranged for and the other tw...
I wouldnt say better. I get much better result from bolter if im going shooty vet.
dry cloak
Indeed, I use bolt pistol and bolter with commander voice
Bolter is really good with exestance
maiden vector
Bolter is really good with exestance
Well, almsot anything better with it, bc all guns begin to 1 shot in head almost anything
dry cloak
Well, almsot anything better with it, bc all guns begin to 1 shot in head almost...
Not all and some guns get zero benefit from exe stance
maiden vector
Not all and some guns get zero benefit from exe stance
Well, I use only Lasguns and Bolters, so for me, it's anything
dry cloak
Anything implies whole of arsenal vet has acces to
strange crow
I wouldnt say better. I get much better result from bolter if im going shooty ve...
Well yeah another benefit of revolver is you can run hybrid builds with it because it's much more potent for less investment. Boltgun on the other hand requires heavier ranged spec and has worse ammo sustain
dry cloak
Well yeah another benefit of revolver is you can run hybrid builds with it becau...
Eh depends. Because i have more.trouble stsying topped up on revolver than boltgun.
And as expected revolver is gonna be much better sidearm than bolter
strange crow
Eh depends. Because i have more.trouble stsying topped up on revolver than boltg...
Always prepared solves that quite easily
And fits hybrid builds obv
dry cloak
Always prepared solves that quite easily
I mean total ammo. Not in mag
lilac eagle
The first is not something you generally rely on vet ranged for and the other tw...
I kinda go the same build every time, which is mostly crit + weakspot damage + toughness regen on ranged kill. I always go exe stance. When I go boltgun with it, it mostly just means everything not wearing carapace dies in 1 headshot or 2 body shots, and anything with carapace dies in less than a clip
Bosses I just mag dump and it normally works out fine
frigid rover
im told weakspot damage is worse than it looks on paper due to how its damage calculation is handled
dry cloak
That would be correct
lilac eagle
Well I've already got all the other crit damage and ranged damage talents/blessings
So outside of melee talents, which I don't really use for anything besides poxwalkers that get close to me, I don't see what else I'd pick
strange crow
I kinda go the same build every time, which is mostly crit + weakspot damage + t...
Thing is revolver can generally do the same for less spec
lilac eagle
With dual wielding being a thing I'd like it if they went back and changed how all the pistols worked
Like if I could use a melee and ranged weapon at the same time 'cuse its a tiny revolver, I'd use that thing a lot more
strange crow
Like if I could use a melee and ranged weapon at the same time 'cuse its a tiny ...
You pretty much can, just run one motion
dry cloak
With dual wielding being a thing I'd like it if they went back and changed how a...
HAHAHA get those thoughs down and to the trash it aint happening
lilac eagle
It was a thing in Vermintide right?
true jackal
the very very fast swap speed is ment to some what represent it
lilac eagle
Eh, I don't like swapping. Plus, dual wielding melee and ranged is such a big thing in 40k, even for guardsman
I don't see a problem with it
strange crow
Isn't it like 1 button press to swap your weapon?
dry cloak
The proble. Is game engine and second how tide game work
We here want many different things but those are very limites
Soni remember ,,Hope is the first on the road to dissapointment,,
tall torrent
Specific to one weapon and it was a quick stun on a cooldown
It cud work like that in this game too tbh
Wouldn’t mind it
mystic pilot
how is the boltgun used?
mystic pilot
so melee for the normal horde units?
dry cloak
how is the boltgun used?
Snipe elites
strange crow
so melee for the normal horde units?
Unless you're ranged hivescum or running a flamer/inferno staff you don't wanna waste ammo on hordes
strange crow
Snipe elites
Lowk gets mogged by other weapons in that regard though
dry cloak
More if you have the perk
lilac eagle
Its only 4 extra shots
dry cloak
I used it as a sniper and worked better than other weapons
quick shell
In the time it takes u to get the bolter out other weapons have already killed an elite
true jackal
it's worse at quick snipping them
dry cloak
Need to check vigis again after buffs that were givd in bound by duty
true jackal
good at taking them out
quick shell
Yeah
strange crow
Exe stance helps other weapons just as much though
Helbore generally is the best special sniper vet has rn
strange crow
And vigilant autogun has much better ammo sustain
dry cloak
You dont have to tell me things i knoe
tall torrent
Helbore generally is the best special sniper vet has rn
I think it’s vig auto 3 tbh, if u discount stuff like revolver/plasma
strange crow
I think it’s vig auto 3 tbh, if u discount stuff like revolver/plasma
Fair enough lol, but I think we can agree both are better than boltgun
tall torrent
Boltgun is diff playstyle
strange crow
That's what I'm saying
tall torrent
It’s not bad at sniping
strange crow
Yeah but that's not its focus
tall torrent
It kinda is?
strange crow
Wym?
tall torrent
Ur obviously gonna go for 1 taps on gunners and specials in the first place with it
It just happens to be a gun that also can do mixed horde
strange crow
Ur obviously gonna go for 1 taps on gunners and specials in the first place with...
Well yeah obv but doesn't that require more talent point spec than the other ones mentioned?
strange crow
Fair enough
fading yarrow
Time to spend every night trying to get H35 and a downless run before it gets fixed
sharp epoch
hive scum only dodge run
mystic pilot
as the tooltip said its great at crowd control
you can hit several people, light attack is fast
and you can push them back in defense
beside the cosplay aspect, I really enjoy swinging that shovel in light attack constantly
tame lodge
why do people use the shovel
Blessing stick
And the bonk SFX gaslight them into thinking it's good
Pavlov's Shovel
mystic pilot
hey I really like it. Are there any better melee at early levels for crowd control? 😛
tame lodge
Yeah
Chainsword
Combat Axe
Heavy Sword
Chainsword poxxers performance is pretty good
Combat Axe and Heavy Sword will just kill 4-5 of them in a single hit
But remember
It is ok to like mid things
tame lodge
Even Krieg
There was this one veteran with Krieg cosmetics
That I kid you not
He'd just press W
He wasn't bad when it comes to melee and shit
But he'd just press w towards gunners
We had to revive him like 15 thousand times
narrow torrent
He was living the Krieg rp
mystic pilot
He was living the Krieg rp
the Meme Krieg rp
sonic kayak
the *Meme* Krieg rp
Real Krieg RP? Map would be dead as soon as he looked at the heretics 
mystic pilot
"Suffer No Traitor, Heretic, and Cultist to live!"
mystic pilot
quick question. when do veterns unlock assault chainswords?
hollow ibex
you can check in the armory
leaden condor
enjoy it but make sure you take kraks or something that can kill carapace
I feel like krak grenades are the default pick for most vet builds
gentle lake
Mhm
mystic pilot
well that's an easy switch on my talent build
hollow ibex
I feel like krak grenades are the default pick for most vet builds
i'm 50/50 between the two blitzes prob
leaden condor
I don't like the frags
Every time I try frags their performance seems rather weak for chaff
hollow ibex
Every time I try frags their performance seems rather weak for chaff
1 frag = stagger
2 frag = kill hordes/mixed hordes
frags can be very powerful
and you get a lot of them
leaden condor
That's kinda annoying though
You gotta toss one and then switch back and throw another just for some chaff mobs
leaden condor
you can throw two consecutively
I have my blitz set to switch back to my last weapon after a throw
Bro you can see in that clip that you had to immediately switch back to the blitz lmao
leaden condor
I'm not downloading a mod just for frags lol
hollow ibex
ok your call
the point is that it's a powerful, regenerating blitz
turns out AOE DOTs are really good
who would've thunk
leaden condor
That you need two of to do anything lmao
real loom
In high havoc isnt 2 frags not kill horde
mystic pilot
so its all good, no issue?
hollow ibex
That you need two of to do anything lmao
which you can get back in short order. what's the problem?
crazy how times change
everyone used to know that frags were amazing
now i have to explain to people why frags are good
jfc
leaden condor
which you can get back in short order. what's the problem?
I'd rather just have a krak
leaden condor
I don't really need them too
I need it to blow up the gang of crushers that spawn in
Usually just using a melee like the shovel to keep swarm enemies off me is enough and someone else on my team will clean them up
hollow ibex
kraks and frags are good at two different things
just take whatever's best for your build
both are great
leaden condor
I would assume each bleed stack does a set amount of damage
scarlet prism
So it caps at a certain point?
Is bleed chip damage any good for dealing with armor
hollow ibex
bleed is good against anything other than carapace
unless you have a lot of rending
there are caps on all DOTs
still dove
what is the best vet build currently?
real loom
what is the best vet build currently?
Plasma gun power sword with shout or executioner stance
still dove
ty
still dove
Plasma gun power sword with shout or executioner stance
what’s the dump for plasma?
real loom
Its different then other but they said perfect is 69 thermal, 71 charge rate
I think 68 thermal, 72 charge rate works too
stark holly
Does bleed damage increase exponentially or linearly
The overall damage will be quadratic since the damage per tick goes up (approximately) linearly, but the number of ticks of damage also goes up.
This is mostly on relevant if you apply a bunch of stacks and run away though. If you are constantly fighting the enemy, you will probably be applying fresh stacks constantly
modest stag
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/80
ty this helps
strange crow
so its all good, no issue?
I mean if you wanted to be meta then you'd take reciprocity, desperado, skirmisher, and exploit weakness (bottom right of the tree, below infiltrate ability)
Those will boost your damage a ton
To do that you'd drop the keystone modifier, rending strikes, opening salvo, longshot, and out for blood
Also for helbore you def want shock trooper over kill zone
Shock trooper gives you crazy ammo sustain if you take surgical blessing on helbore
quick shell
hmm
I really like db vet
very fun playstyle
feels very smooth (when ur inputs actually work)
i might try a recon lasgun ranged heavy setup
that sounds fun
strange crow
DB is fun, and as boring as other ppl say it is I find recon pretty satisfying
fair shale
that sounds fun
I don't like it cause it has no feeling, personally
quick shell
I mean I'm gonna get a recon for variety
fair shale
You do get effectively infinite ammo tho
quick shell
yeah that's why im going for it
plus ive got a bunch of autoguns on my zealot already
strange crow
You do get effectively infinite ammo tho
"We have hivescum at home" ahh
quick shell
i assume recon just dumps mobi?
strange crow
Collateral
fair shale
Yeah, iirc the good variant doesn't pen anyway
quick shell
dump ammo because u have infinite anyway 
DB playstyle is super fun, but it's also pretty involved
i need a brain off keyboard dribbler setup for when i cant be bothered
mystic pilot
recon las? is stability still a good choice for dump stat as well?
still dove
cleave damage a good dump?
narrow frost
cleave damage a good dump?
no, Cleave Targets is prefered
still dove
thx
scarlet prism
I’ve had a lot more fun with the power falchion compared to power sword
What’s the dump stat for falchion
strange crow
Why'd you drop iron will? Also note that demo team is gonna do a lot more for you and the team than leave no one behind
Gonna give you significantly more kraks that can help prevent teammates from going down in the first place
mystic pilot
duty of honor for Iron Will
hollow ibex
what weps?
strange crow
what weps?
He said helbore and shovel earlier
mystic pilot
shovel or any other melee
strange crow
duty of honor for Iron Will
Iron will is pretty much non-negotiable if you want an optimized build, def take it over the 5 extra stacks of marksman focus
hollow ibex
yeah prob drop the 15 stacks to take iron will
stuck gorge
One in 20 kills on average over like 2k kills a game is quite a lot
strange crow
Plus as you get to higher and higher difficulties it will do more for you
mystic pilot
One in 20 kills on average over like 2k kills a game is quite a lot
but only off elite/specialist targets
stuck gorge
There’s still quite a lot of elite / specials in that number
calm prairie
you will easily throw 60 or 70 nades with that talent if you're throwing them off cooldown
stuck gorge
Also if you’re using kraks to kill armored targets
That’s gonna refund it self a quite few times
calm prairie
if you want res speed you can put it on your curios
stuck gorge
Res speed chart for vet
mystic pilot
well LNOB has other benefits beside revive speed
strange crow
Which only proc when your teammates are downed
Banking on your teammates going down is not as optimal as preventing them from going down in the first place by blasting crushers
stark holly
I thought the dumpstat for las weapons is pretty much always stability since there is minimal recoil. Why do almost all of the guides on gameslantern say to dump mobility for infantry lasgun
narrow frost
Because Gameslantern is not a reliable source
narrow frost
the stat that should be 60%
topaz scarab
ah
topaz scarab
should plasma charge rate be dump stat or
topaz scarab
heh, 69
tall torrent
One in 20 kills on average over like 2k kills a game is quite a lot
20 elite/special kills
U don’t get 1 every 20 kills
tall torrent
There’s still quite a lot of elite / specials in that number
Not getting avg of 2k per game that’s for sure
topaz scarab
is this consider good
tall torrent
Not rly
Again, get a thermal dump one if ur broke
Charge rate makes ur shots be fired faster
mystic pilot
and its fucking gone
?
soft solstice
I want to run infiltrate more but I just find way more trouble finding a use case for it over shroud on zealot
all those innate backstab bonuses do more than anything in the entire vet tree I feel to make it feel useful
topaz scarab
i think every class out do veteran
you want wave clearing, zeolet or syker
you want high damge, those two too
veteran just seem
usless
hollow ibex
I want to run infiltrate more but I just find way more trouble finding a use cas...
Because it sucks
And got cucked
topaz scarab
when you carry both krak grenade and plasma gun to kill those armored enemy, only for the zeolet to bonk them with his hammer
topaz scarab
then i just ask my self, why even obther
soft solstice
veteran has the best direct team support stuff, their ranged specialization is still goodeven with pickpocket and dseperado on hive scum, they get good stuff but they're more an all rounder with room to sepcialize alot in guns or a bit into melee
tall torrent
you want wave clearing, zeolet or syker
yea psyker giga op
but vet is basically 2nd best class
topaz scarab
just wish they could become a deamon host if they use too much of their ability
soft solstice
zealot get better feel stuff I feel that benefits from the positioning stuff of stealth that would want to run stealth over the dash or shout, while in vet I'd rather just be running shout unless i'm running a specific gun build
tall torrent
vet is quite a bit higher dmg than zealot
narrow frost
lol
soft solstice
thunder hammer is alot of fun but its hard to compete with big ranged
tall torrent
thunder hammer does 1 thing well and sucks horribly in everything else
soft solstice
the anti sapper shovel
soft solstice
shovel is a ton of fun and excels in everything but raw damage
tall torrent
duelling sword pretty op yea
frigid shuttle
thunder hammer is legit ass
compared to sm2 thunder hammer, yes
fading yarrow
I don't think my ass is ready to speedrun Havoc 35
This was just an Auric H-I STG and I got doodled like a French girl and canoodled like one, too; died twice
frigid shuttle
also bonking stuff in one hit is great, except there's other weapons that can 2 hit and also do decently vs multiple targets 
tall torrent
TH's 1 taps are not actually good
soft solstice
shovel has good stamina, good sprinting and dodge (rip being able to get that extra point of dodge), strong blessings, good stagger with hte special being able to poke mutants out of their charge which is alot of fun, should be nice cleave, and is very easy to use, it just has low damage
tall torrent
if it was good at 1 taps I wouldn't be calling it ass
but it's not even good at 1 taps
fair shale
Too much of a gimmick weapon ime
frigid shuttle
I just wish every class got executioner sword as a universal.
Is that too much to ask?
livid hill
i just dont understand why stealth and smoke nades cant just work like how they do with bardin in vermie
frigid shuttle
livid hill
smokes are okay but infiltrate is literally useless
make the third grenade a remote detonate melta bomb like in sm2 maybe, idk.
very high damage very small radius ig
yes that's kind of kraks but kraks are specifically anti armor and home in on everything idk
idk i just dont get why the third ult for vet needs to be so bad and why havent they changed it
rustic hemlock
is there a veteran build where you can stay on plasma most of the time like how recon lasgun shocktrooper is, or is plasma just relegated to killing range elite/special then back to melee?
hollow ibex
smokes are okay but infiltrate is literally useless
stealth bomber is funny but yeah stealth doesn't really have synergies otherwise
hollow ibex
is there a veteran build where you can stay on plasma most of the time like how ...
nope plasma ammo econ is not great
livid hill
stealth bomber is funny but yeah stealth doesn't really have synergies otherwise
its also functionally identical to zealot's stealth, the only difference is random stats
hollow ibex
its also functionally identical to zealot's stealth, the only difference is rand...
zealot stealth plays very differently
livid hill
not ime
hollow ibex
and actually has a meaningful playstyle
rustic hemlock
nope plasma ammo econ is not great
big sadge
hollow ibex
not ime
it comes off cd way faster
is way shorter
doesn't give anywhere near as much toughness regen
and zealot actually has backstab synergies
two very different implementations of stealth
verbal osprey
Is covert operative worth it?
hollow ibex
it's trash
verbal osprey
it's trash
Thanks, the +30% damage seemed tempting but would probably only work if allies drew aggro right
verbal osprey
Is lock and load worth it for bolter?
verbal osprey
Is weapon specialist better for bolter and plasma builds?
Since both have low uptime, gonna be using melee a lot
verbal osprey
bolter doesn't work well with WS due to very bad draw time
Ok, yeah that tracks.
verbal osprey
bolter doesn't work well with WS due to very bad draw time
So focus target instead for bolter?
hollow ibex
or mmf yeah
verbal osprey
Why is mmf good on bolter?
hollow ibex
bolter already has good finesse and MMF buffs finesse
finesse is crit/weakspot damage
FT is good too because it's just damage
verbal osprey
bolter already has good finesse and MMF buffs finesse
Yeah but it feels like it wants me to be less mobile, and then I can’t keep up with the team
Not sure how to make it work
hollow ibex
run with a high mobility melee like tactical axe
and swap between them as needed
usually i snipe with the bolter for a while and when the team moves up, i move up with them
verbal osprey
Yeah I’d continue running FT, seems more versatile
Thanks for the tips
austere mica
You can also keep exe up in melee
maiden vector
How do you do this picks
livid hill
or mmf yeah
mmmf~ yeah~
tall torrent
How do you do this picks
gameslantern website
maiden vector
gameslantern website
dapper coyote
Do Onslaught proc with melee weapons?
austere mica
1 stack brittle per melee is basically useless
unreal nova
1 stack brittle per melee is basically useless
Only works on light spam knoife.
dapper coyote
1 stack brittle per melee is basically useless
So it can be proc then?
Just curious
unreal nova
So... lul.
austere mica
Yes
austere mica
Just not enough to be useful in any capacity
austere mica
Only works on light spam knoife.
I cannot begin to list the problems with this statement
unreal nova
I cannot begin to list the problems with this statement
Uncanny, I know.
Is just, that's one of the fastest aspd melee vet has to apply it.
And if you managed to be unlucky enough that you did 0 crits.
austere mica
Is just, that's one of the fastest aspd melee vet has to apply it.
In melee
unreal nova
There is no reason to need onslaught on a melee
I know, but this is a, what if thing.
olive mica
Is the assault chainsword considered good? I feel like I’m struggling with it
olive mica
That’s a shame, it’s cool
hollow ibex
Is the assault chainsword considered good? I feel like I’m struggling with it
pretty good against hordes, bad against cara still
unreal nova
Basically meh when the meta is 500 armoured in your face.
olive mica
I put the +25% damage against flak and carapace on and bloodletter but it still doesn’t do much
olive mica
So what is a good weapon for heresy and above then?
unreal nova
Anything, but you must have a gun that can delete armoured if your melee can't.
Or kraks.
Anything goes below Havoc 25 tbh.
unreal nova
Then spec it to shatter armoured when out of kraks.
Because chainsword really sucks on armoured.
charred kraken
What melee weapon do you guys think the guards on the Morningstar use
olive mica
Then spec it to shatter armoured when out of kraks.
Is that the brittleness one?
unreal nova
Is that the brittleness one?
Do not onslaught.
Shattering pinning might work.
I don't remember since I dislike the pull out time on it.
But you need the maxed blessings first.
charred kraken
Look at my veteran take on one of the guards on the Morningstar
maiden vector
Look at my veteran take on one of the guards on the Morningstar
Fellow lasgun enthusiast
charred kraken
I wanted to try it
dry cloak
Prepare to be dissapointed
maiden vector
Don't listen to him
dry cloak
Correct
charred kraken
What
maiden vector
He just "non-beliver"
dry cloak
I believe in ogryn supremacy
maiden vector
Flashlights are bestlights
maiden vector
What skills are needed on Accatran lasgun?
dry cloak
I dont use recon lasgun?
dapper coyote
What skills are needed on Accatran lasgun?
Reccy or what?
maiden vector
Reccy or what?
Recon lasgun
charred kraken
I believe in ogryn supremacy
I know ogryn is strongest but sometimes its about strategy
dry cloak
The strategy is i keep them from you
charred kraken
And i take them at range
Im a ogryn player but sometimes I like to yell at people with my veteran ability
Is funny
charred kraken
Is it blu, green or brown?
Oh you mean the color of the gun
I thought you meant the color of the Lazer
unreal nova
Blu is funni boss delete but ammo inefficient and wait for things to burn to death. Green is tryhard, most ammo efficient of the three, can kill without waiting to burnout yet still shoots fast enough to shred bosses, also doesn't suffer the downsides of slow reload and slow pullout of the blu. Brown is more damage, but at 1.5x damage for 2 bullets per shot with minor cleave. You want to go in on damage for this but is really only for non-havocs.
dry cloak
Mark 6c
maiden vector
I have rn skills of +50% dps in weakspot and +5% crit chance on weak spot stack to 5
livid hill
Look at my veteran take on one of the guards on the Morningstar
chillin
unreal nova
Weakspot damage sucks. It double sucks on recon cos recon has bad weakspot damage.
maiden vector
So what I use?
maiden vector
I talk about blessings
maiden vector
I have rn skills of +50% dps in weakspot and +5% crit chance on weak spot stack ...
.
unreal nova
That's perks.
maiden vector
No, that's blessings
unreal nova
Use flak/unyielding and crit chance.
Perks.
Blessings is dumdum and infernus for blu/green.
I'm going by the actual English ver of the game. IDK how they translated it
maiden vector
Blessings is dumdum and infernus for blu/green.
This two exactly the same
unreal nova
Yes.
unreal nova
Don't bother.
maiden vector
K
unreal nova
Thing is, recon lacks the finesse of the other lasguns. It's crits is also meh and only there to support the ammo efficiency.
unreal nova
Oh you mean the color of the gun
Yeah, cos all three has same mark name but diff numbers. Is usually easier to ask for colour unless colourblind to another level. Brown might be red, but to me, is brown.
maiden vector
Well, I think it would be good for that stupid 2,500 enemy penance
unreal nova
Well, I think it would be good for that stupid 2,500 enemy penance
It is, just not for the WS one.
grave hawk
what vet build we like
grave hawk
whats the weapons for this
hollow ibex
nothing specific, you can run whatever
but meta options are psword and rashad
with revolver/plasma/double barrel
maiden vector
Yes
unreal nova
Don't use it with recon basically. Recon is keystoneless or the other two.
charred kraken
How do you take a picture of the whole skill tree anyway
maiden vector
Yep, the removal of auto generating stacks made it more painful.
I have easiest and most tedious penances left
750 suppressed enemies (631 done), 7,500 shield regen (6,336 done), 2,500 bullshit, 500 grenade kills, smoke grenade and WS (31/250)
cunning maple
which power sword mark is better?
unreal nova
I have easiest and most tedious penances left
Shout just happens over time. Spam it. Invis suppression just spam in melee as long they aren't infected poxxers.
unreal nova
Krak kills is much better now. It was PAINFUL before krak buff.
azure narwhal
Yeah
It's almost like everyone was waiting on kraks to be viable lol
I barely see frags
Even less so smokes even though smokes are also good
unreal nova
I barely see frags
I know, ppl question my frags.
I trust them still 0 damage taken 300 ping damnation clutch go.
unreal nova
Pick to complement your weapons.
azure narwhal
Pick to complement your weapons.
Yep
Situation too
Smart smoke vet is great to have in havoc
topaz lance
unreal nova
Smart smoke vet is great to have in havoc
Also nice if you roll bad this event.
maiden vector
Yep, the removal of auto generating stacks made it more painful.
This is pain
Also, what stat to dump on Accatran lasgun?
Collat?
unreal nova
Collat?
Yeah.
All marks.
There is only one niche for mobility dump, and that's stagger tox bombers if you start shooting the moment they start the pull out to throw animation.
But it's too unlikely so...
nova surge
gotta say i did not expect the dclaw to feel so solid on this class
maiden vector
Just buy and fav.
I know..
maiden vector
Btw, Accatran is very fun
Like
You are crackhead
Just press lmb and never release
vale nova
Can anyone suggest a good Infiltrate build for Veteran
unreal nova
Btw, Accatran is very fun
I know it is. I have a nonsensical build just to spray pew pews at everything.
unreal nova
Can anyone suggest a good Infiltrate build for Veteran
Anything to go fast since you are carrying batteries and such.
If no oggy or not safe for oggy.
regal smelt
Can anyone suggest a good Infiltrate build for Veteran
I take both the regen nade talents with shredder nades+uncannystike knife if I'm doing infiltrate. knife goes fast, rending helps the bleed from your nades kill everything fast
still gives tons of room for whichever keystone and ranged weapon you're comfy with, but I still take the talents near Weapon specialist even though its my least favorite keystone
unreal nova
I have no idea what this means
Stealth means you are planning to do objectives.
So carrying batteries safely and such.
vale nova
Okay
regal smelt
best used for pressing E on something or someone, but still nice for general use. the damage alone is not worth running it
vale nova
Tbh I was going for the armour, says I need to suppress 750 enemies using Infiltrate
fair shale
@vale nova sirosky likes this, I don't use it so I cannot speak to the effectiveness
unreal nova
Then run a melee build, just jumpscare things and stabstab.
regal smelt
that penance completes itself in like 2 missions as long as you're using your ability
unreal nova
Anything that doesn't have tentacles or aren't rotten will be suppressed.
Even if they don't show it.
Don't ask me how FS codes it.
By rotten, I mean the pox zombies.
regal smelt
if you're doing the penance for the krak nade make sure you're throwing your kraks into crowds of smaller flak enemies. anything with flak counts as armored for the krak grenade penance, and it takes a long time if you're only throwing it at elites.
vale nova
that penance completes itself in like 2 missions as long as you're using your ab...
Nice
vale nova
By rotten, I mean the pox zombies.
Got it
vale nova
<@335488059225145354> sirosky likes this, I don't use it so I cannot speak to th...
Thx bro
fair shale
No problem
winter grove
Any cool new vet cosmetics from aquila shop yet?
winter grove
Pretty sure rotation is tomorrow
Right right
maiden vector
Anything that doesn't have tentacles or aren't rotten will be suppressed.
With what better to do WS penance? Bolt Pistol?
Or just bolter
unreal nova
With what better to do WS penance? Bolt Pistol?
Bistol or Revolver.
Revolver if you play higher diffs cos you need the 1 shot crit weakspot beeakpoint.
maiden vector
Revolver if you play higher diffs cos you need the 1 shot crit weakspot beeakpoi...
I would do that on heresy, I'm not madman
Bc this is just tedious thing
unreal nova
You can test in psykhanium anyway.
Get 3 melee kills, swap and shoot something.
You want to try to get as many 1 shots in head before going for it.
rich aurora
Shiet you don't even need 3 kills cause the base crit chance on revolver is already so high
unreal nova
Shiet you don't even need 3 kills cause the base crit chance on revolver is alre...
Revolver needs 1 if built for it.
rich aurora
Ya just the 1 tho