#veteran-class

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tame lodge
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Yea

narrow frost
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I agree

tame lodge
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Shut yo mouth

narrow frost
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others are just more broken

tame lodge
prisma vessel
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S Tier weapons?

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Rumbler KEKW_ogryn

narrow frost
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tier 0 melee, game breaking I assume

tame lodge
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My goat Evis15 is right there (biased)

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Ur goat is washed

prisma vessel
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@narrow frost this reminds me to try that taxe on Rampage crit-max Hive Scummer

narrow frost
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its dumb

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1 taps in H40

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cleave through a horde with 3 swipes

prisma vessel
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Delicious.

narrow frost
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was a 2 tap a mauler

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idk what buffs I had

tall torrent
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Tac axe and combat axe both op on hvs melee spec

prisma vessel
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Rashad on Meleescum is pretty disgusting.

sly orchid
hollow ibex
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The only things u lose are mauler crit 1 taps from full hp

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And like, light atk rager 1 taps

prisma vessel
hollow ibex
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MkIV or MK VII?

tall torrent
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VII is best tac axe overall

prisma vessel
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7 here.

narrow frost
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I think it was something like this

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when I was playing

hollow ibex
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But cleave cap no?

narrow frost
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idk, I was trolling in a solo

tall torrent
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But less light atk damage

hollow ibex
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Wait IV still has cap on the lights?

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Bruuuuh

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U have 3 cleave

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Ur not hitting much to begin with

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And heavy atks have 3 CDDC

prisma vessel
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oh shit

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new episode of Fionna and Cake dropped

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YUSS

hollow ibex
hollow ibex
narrow frost
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lights

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its rashad

hollow ibex
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Oh this is Rashad

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Thought it was the taxe build

tall torrent
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Rashad and tac axe kinda interchangeable in builds for hvs

narrow frost
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yeah

prisma vessel
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Rashad mah ballz

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😏

narrow frost
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any testing on removing Bm from Caxe if you take all the cleave increases?

prisma vessel
narrow frost
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Deci/Ht

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I want to try it but havent yet

quick shell
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Rashad (everyone)

tall torrent
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But on hvs it’s t0

quick shell
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zealot

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Zealot doesn’t get as much damage

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Zealot only barely gets into crusher 4 tap with Rashad on martyr (no ult use)

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Hvs with rampage hits crusher 3 tap

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And human elite 1 taps

prisma vessel
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but

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Scum is Glass Cannon without the Cannon!

tall torrent
fair shale
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HyperV does a lot, huh?

prisma vessel
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considering HVS Rampage alone makes prett much any weapon cracked. I took a Chainsword with Rampage and it murderized everything with ease

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Even if hyperV didn’t exist
Hvs melee still mogs zealot by miles

upper dock
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So what's the go-to ranged weapon for Veteran now that Plasma Gun is nerfed. I am always out of ammo with the recon

tall torrent
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Also no plasma nerf in recent times

narrow frost
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probably means the frames drops

tall torrent
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Only 1 bug with plasma but I think graphics driver update fixes it

fair shale
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I don't think I've ever run out of ammo for recon in my life

upper dock
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Plasma gun casts lag when fired

narrow frost
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update drivers

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Srsly tho they shud make it so psyker gets massive fps drop whenever they use any warp atk

narrow frost
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lmao

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that would be so funny

tall torrent
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To accurately depict the dangers of reaching into the warp

fair shale
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Is it just me or is communal psyker hate at an all time high?

narrow frost
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imagine if peril affected framerate

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Be lore accurate and all that

narrow frost
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higher you are the less frames

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fair shale
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Oh I agree

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It just feels really common now

tall torrent
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It’s morally correct to not like psyker

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It’s 40k after all

hollow ibex
tall torrent
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Would be so peak

narrow frost
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that'd be amazing

tall torrent
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Lasts until mission end

robust herald
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Psyker??? Hah, never heard of her!

sly orchid
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i would get 1 frame per 4 minutes

tall torrent
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Accurate depiction of warp communication

fair shale
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After generating 200% peril you’d already have reduced ur framerate by 100% down to 0fps

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Just crash to desktop

fair shale
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Sounds like the psykers problem

tall torrent
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Well it pretty much always is

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2 of the 3 biggest fuckups in 40k universe are from smth psykers did

true jackal
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whats the one that isn;t?

fair shale
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2 of the 3?

true jackal
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haw in heaven (old ones are psykers) great rift opening (eldar highly psyhicially active) and the horus heresy (the emperor is a psyker)

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how tf did I write haw

tall torrent
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fair shale
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What do you consider them fucking up

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Forfeiting their flesh & soul

fair shale
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I agree

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They do too, iirc, for the most part

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So yea 2 of the 3 biggest fuckups in 40k universe are from psykers doing smth bad

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Eldar fucked up and created slaanesh

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Magnus fucked up and basically doomed humanity

fair shale
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Ig that depends on perspective but

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Big E was dooming em anyway and he's also a psyker

tall torrent
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Yes but Magnus was more direct

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In any case humanity’s fuck up has psyker involved

low shale
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So what is a good Blessing for the Power Sword?

fair shale
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Power Cycler, Sunderer

tall torrent
low shale
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Not a big deal u can just roll another

fresh spire
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is stacking thrust worth on bosses

tall torrent
fresh spire
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hmm so the best havoc setup for DS4 would be like precog/uncanny + carapace/crit or unyielding?

tame lodge
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It's morally correct to hate psyker

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Fatshark knows it

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So they keep buffing psyker

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What are you going to do? Hate Psyker? That's already what you should be doing anyways

fresh spire
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columnus or vraks

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IAG

tame lodge
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Vraks5

strange crow
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Isn't it more like a 9.4% to 11.2% total damage increase depending on the armor type?

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Or were you basing it off the mk14 or sm?

strange crow
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Fair enough

hollow ibex
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Based on 30 percent finesse

fresh spire
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is there any benefit to going over 100 health on vet/psyker for havoc

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like will it prevent me from dying to shit

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beccause you just need a single curio sub to reach it

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narrow frost
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psyker gets health DR so its not needed

maiden wharf
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Trying to do On Overwatch penance

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Can someone help me pls

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Do I need to start at the start or can I join midgame and still do it

topaz scarab
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which is the better way of acquiring and upgrading a weapon

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buying from brunt armoury and upgrade it from there

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or getting one from requisition weapons and upgrading it

maiden wharf
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I say requisition if you found your favorite weapon as it usually gets really up there

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If not then brunt armoury

topaz scarab
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as you see

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the chainsaw i found

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its ethe

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80% damge

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or 80% penetration

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like

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why cant i have a chainsaw that have all the stat at 80%

maiden wharf
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I guess you just cant get what you want

topaz scarab
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its ether 80% penetration but 60% damge or the other way around

maiden wharf
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I just grabbed whatever, upgraded it to the max, and its my go to weapon (Dueling Sword Plasma Gun main)

topaz scarab
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ok yea many weapon are also like this

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bruh

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so for chainsword

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is it better to have better damge

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or better pen

tall torrent
topaz scarab
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also

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whats the diffrent betwen the chainsword

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and chainaxe

verbal token
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The movesets.

tame lodge
verbal token
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It is also important to note that one chain axe mark is better for single target damage while the other has more sweeping attacks.

topaz scarab
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ah

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huh, so thats why it chew through shield soo good

verbal token
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Also, no weapon can have 80 in all stats. That’s how it is.

mellow halo
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do I want to power up my psword as much as I can?

verbal token
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For optimal damage yes, but it is not exactly mandatory. It still works without being powered up, but it could be better.

mellow halo
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I feel like it just doesn't do enough damage without charging it

verbal token
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Well yes, it is a bit of a wet noodle when unpowered.

mellow halo
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true

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do I just spam the power button then

tame lodge
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Every 3 swings with power Cycler

mellow halo
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yeah I have power cycler 3 now

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yes? no?

lyric path
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You can always trust a veteran to have your back

rustic hemlock
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why does the spearhead boltgun take forever to be able to fire after swapping? how do i skip the animation?

tame lodge
mellow halo
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should I just not light attack with psword?

tame lodge
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You only light attack with Psword 6

mellow halo
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is mk6 or 3 better?

tall torrent
scenic sigil
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Anyone else use the Shock Maul? I can't tell if it's a heavy tank killing weapon or a crowd-control one (and what to build around/with it)

tall torrent
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it's supposed to be a stagger-oriented weapon but it's not actually good at stagger

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lol

scenic sigil
tall torrent
scenic sigil
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Yeah, I noticed since it can't seem to get through carapace armour. It does have the versatile trait though

tame lodge
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lmao

obtuse turtle
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What weapons are good for veteran right now? I've never used veteran before

dry cloak
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Everything is good imo

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Viable i should say

native hamlet
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so like if you have a combat blade, boltgun, and krak grenades, you're really good at mobility and single target damage, but you would spend a long while fighting to clear a horde.
keep teammate's build in mind too, esp if it's someone you know and is competent. if they have a lot of horde clear stuff, you could run this and be oki doki too

native hamlet
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one you could take one motion talent that's at the top of the tree. it's pretty nice

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or alternatively, if you have less than 15 bullets and more than 0 (so like if you fired a single shot/the clip isn't full) you can draw to the boltgun and immediately reload, and right as you're about to take the mag out, you sprint to cancel it

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think it's slightly faster than one motion. clunky at first, but i assume will get more comfortable the more you do it. like plasma reload canceling

proud jolt
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btw loving new bolt pistol mark

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the explosive raduis is crazy

strange crow
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If you’re just doing auric though you’ve got more top options for ranged like revolver (actually cracked) and infantry autogun

proud jolt
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yea the hellbore smacks like a cannon

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love this thing

stark holly
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I just hit lv 30. It seems like it might be a good idea to buy and hold "perfect" stat distribution weapons when they show up in the armoury exchange so that I can upgrade them in the future if I want.

I understand that different weapons have different stat options, so there is no universal rule, but would it be accurate to say that the 60 stat for most ranged weapons should be mobility whenever possible and maybe stability for some of the slower firing weapons?
And for melee weapons, I can dump cleave damage if its a single target focused weapon, but I am not sure what to do for AOE focused weapons

fair shale
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You can buy them from the tab under the shop

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A bit of gambling as a treat

proud jolt
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yea buy the shit grey

fair shale
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As a general rule of thumb you normally dump mobility or defenses for all weapons

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Power sword specifically dumps cleave targets

proud jolt
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you can get good stats, and then upgrade

fair shale
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Yeah

proud jolt
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I use to buy the grey weapons and make them all green, then sacrifice them, for fast level up, but I think they nerf the system

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too much STONKS

strange crow
proud jolt
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I mainly go for ammo/dmg

stark holly
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But i think for something like the helbore lasgun where thats not an option, it seems like ammo or stability would be good options

strange crow
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Yeah stability for helbore

proud jolt
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having precise aim with that is important

stark holly
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sometimes the guns will have it as the lowest stat, which I always destroy those weapons

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I know some people really like having max stamina, but I dont really care for it

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But then again, I dont do massive optimization builds

strange crow
proud jolt
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I build for fun

strange crow
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And obv damage is what you dump for flamer and inferno staff

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I personally just run 60 mobility knife though

proud jolt
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the knife is crazy, I feel like I need to inject fent to fully have the rat experience

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my first 500 mastery weapon

lyric path
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its funny this beautiful beast really packs a punch

strange crow
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Mutants quaking in their boots rn

proud jolt
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My top tier melee weapons are,

  • RELIC BLADE
  • KNIFE
  • EVISERATOR
  • ARBITES MAUL
  • CRUSHER
  • HAMMER
  • POWER SABER
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Range weapons

  • LAS PISTOL
  • LAS RIFLE
  • HELBORE
  • BOLT PISTOL
  • REVOLVER
shadow dagger
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surely this isnt normal

lyric path
proud jolt
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I Do enjoy running some quality of life mods

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like this one which tells me whats needed for penaces

shadow dagger
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oh i just forgot to track it michael

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you love to see it ig

stark holly
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I have been mostly playing on Heresy and I have not really had any ammo problems at all. But I also tend to prefer melee gameplay whenever possible.
If I run a powersword + plasma gun combo, do I really need 80/80 Ammo or will I run into trouble if I try to run a 60-70 ammo plasma gun, especially when I start to move on to harder difficulties?

tall torrent
stark holly
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yea, makes sense

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I saw a few reddit posts about this

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I dont currently have a 69 + 71 plasma gun, so ill just use the 60 thermal resist gun I have for now and then upgrade later on

hollow ibex
stark holly
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thanks

lyric path
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did the devs really buff the shredder auto pistol?

hollow ibex
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a while back yeah

tepid otter
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What else did they buff

hollow ibex
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idk depends on how long you were gone

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helbore chaxe taxe

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chord

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combat shotguns

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i'm definitely missing a lot

dry cloak
hollow ibex
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yeah though usually not the ones that newbies get introduced to lol

dry cloak
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Yeah

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Thats the thing

tepid otter
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Prolly like 3 weeks now KEKW_ogryn

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I also havent tried the new no mans land yet

sharp epoch
dry cloak
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And prepare for a pounding

tall torrent
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no man's land is fun

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but that crater section's terrain collision is crazy

burnt pelican
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is any scoreboard mod functioning rn btw

burnt pelican
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in vm2 online builds are not that bad they are alright in darktide they are HORRIBLE

red portal
silver patrol
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yeah obviously he is the only one I know enough to vouch for him

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there are others idk about qlang ive only spoken to him once he seemed to know whats up

red portal
burnt pelican
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qlang plays a certain way thats different to mine, if u play his way his builds are great

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if you know him you ppbl know what I mean

red portal
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I haven't even touched darktide in over a month cause I'm burnt out

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Vt2 is the goat

burnt pelican
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vt2 is great for when u wanna play the game and not have it memory leak every 2 games and experience minimal bugs

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prove me wrong

red portal
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Or have unplayable servers cause na servers are on fire

burnt pelican
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oh yeah true that

red portal
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No idea what they did to us east

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But I am not playing with my American freinds anymore.

burnt pelican
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let them come to you xD

limber bane
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plasma gun still bugged?

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ever since the hotfix I've had to play other primaries (revolver, helbore) and it just made me realize how disgusting plasma gun is

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with both guns you need to be precise to tap heads

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and unlike plasma it doesn't have fucking infinite punchthrough

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so in a lot of instances chaff that run up ahead of specialists would just block the shots

tall torrent
limber bane
stable socket
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is there a picture of smoke grenade radius? to this day i still have no idea how big it actually is, it feels kinda big but idk

leaden condor
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I don't think I've ever seen a smoke grenade user out in the wild

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Everyone runs krak grenades

stable socket
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smoke's really good for turning off ranged in havoc (which can be really dangerous especially on more open areas)

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not having krak means your team needs to have other good ways to handle armor/monstrosities though

trail steeple
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Im running revolver with combat knife, and infiltrate and smoke grenades. Just for fun really / isnt my main.

But I can't decide which combat knife to use? I kinda prefer the mk iii as its like, the melee version of my revolver. So it all gels

But Im guessing mk vi is better as it has more sweeps for horde clear? But I keep fumbling it when I need to single target (push stab? Punch to heavy?)

Or should I always be revolvering in their face in those scenarios

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Also... Im trying it with Always Prepared as people seem to reccomend it with Revolver. I dont know if I'm playing it wrong, but it doesn't seem very good vs Tactical Reload...

I have to leave my gun close to empty, kill some stuff in melee, then swap to it and I get 1 to 2 bullets back in the chamber?

Vs just reloading faster and having it ready to blast?

final charm
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So being able to teleport bullets into your gun by just swapping your melee weapon which you already do a lot or have to pull out your gun and manually reload each bullet, I think teleporting bullets is fun.

dapper coyote
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Man i would REALLY want to have a slug DB

dapper coyote
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You can always reload mid combat or avoiding a panic moment when a specialists suddenly show up and you don't have the means to deal with it pretty quickly

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It might look shit but its fucking based

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Also Always Prepared is way better with DB

strange crow
dapper coyote
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Allowing you to basically have Sv_infinite_ammo 1 as long as you have someone to die with melee and there's always that someone

mortal aspen
trail steeple
strange crow
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Oh yeah usually people use the mk2 revolver for it

trail steeple
strange crow
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The one that doesn't fan

trail steeple
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Ahhh

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Now theres a big difference

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Silly me, Ill give the other a go

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Cheers all

slender jay
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i ask this question here because i recently playing back veteran after finishing 100 game as hive scum and when i started using back the plasma gun i realize that my frame drop and make me lag a lot it happen mostly when i charge the weapon and shot it

tame lodge
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It's bugged

slender jay
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is that normal ?

tame lodge
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Shooting plasma drops frames

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It's bugged

slender jay
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when that started to happen ?

tame lodge
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Dec 2

slender jay
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if that so i gonna then replace it with a boltergun in meantime it can be fix

proud jolt
barren nexus
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guys i just came back to the game and i left before the talents rework

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can anybody tell me wtf is going on

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wth is the mastery system

final charm
topaz scarab
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or if you hae alot of money

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just buy a bunch of the same type of weapon and sacrafice them

gray meadow
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Yeah when I came back I thought the mastery system just have extra bonuses. I like the new system my vet was lost in an update long ago it made replacing his gear a lot easier

barren nexus
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thats what i did back in the day so now i have these bad boys

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dunno if theyre still viable or not tho

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or the perks are shit now

tame lodge
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Shovel with poor First Target stat

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That one is chalked

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Throw it in the trash

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Or maybe you don't have the resources for a new one yet

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So keep it until you can go for a better one

barren nexus
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i have a shit ton of shovels of the lowest rarity

gray meadow
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Question is building weapon mastery in missions based on actual weapon use or just having it equipped?

barren nexus
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i bought them in bulk from the mecahnicus

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imma head back here and ask more questions later as my friends are holding me at gun point to play league with them

narrow relic
gray meadow
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Ok ty

barren nexus
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guys i need some help on the talent tree

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it is confusing af

dapper coyote
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Vet keystones can be summed as

Headshot maxxing - marksman focus

Tag for extra dmg - focus target

Melee + Gun wombo combo - Weapon Specialist (WS)

barren nexus
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im running shovel and boltgun for now

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ill be going for WS

dapper coyote
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Vet abilities are

Wallhack lmao - Exec stance

Fuck off for a few mins - Voice of command (VOC)

Bye bye / a res with no one disturbing you - Infiltration

dapper coyote
hollow ibex
dapper coyote
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Yea, that's why im not sure about with the big bolter lmao

barren nexus
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i just threw together a make shift build together cus i just wanna play a few runs bfr i go to sleep

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imma ask yall for opinions to fine tweak tmrw

crimson mica
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Does the plasma gun lag for anyone else?

trim badger
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Alongside lagging when reaching high peril

crimson mica
tall torrent
tribal tinsel
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Good power sword build, blessings/perks?

hollow ibex
true fern
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what should i be running on power falchion?

tribal tinsel
hot dragon
hollow ibex
balmy flume
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Fellow Vets
Am I a Heretic for saying I still prefer the original Power Sword over the Power Falchion?

hollow ibex
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no, falch's mid as fuck

fair shale
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That's a default opinion tbh

narrow torrent
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Guys, I have a hot take. I think Darktide is fun KEKW_ogryn

rustic hemlock
civic vessel
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I did a Spearhead Bolt Gun + Combat Knife bleed build but i think it's leaning far to much into bleed meme. Just doing Heresy stuff but also trying to figure if I should swap Puncture out from the Bolt Gun

hollow ibex
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puncture's good on bolter

civic vessel
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Hmm guess so. I should pop this on Lantern for proper advice asking

distant plaza
civic vessel
strange crow
civic vessel
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maybe swap out Serrated Blade for Agile Engagement?

strange crow
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But if you run the meta knife build def keep serrated

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You don't need field improv if you take serrated

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And don't bother with onslaught for anything except recon mk12

civic vessel
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Thanks, so just to recap Lacerate+Uncanny for CB blessings? And I can swap Field Improv out for Agile Engagement?

strange crow
buoyant aurora
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Does the brittleness talent work on monsters? Didnt really see the difference with max stacks

strange crow
civic vessel
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Copy that, any recommendations? Always Prepared I guess? I feel like I autopilot into Field Imrpov so much

strange crow
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Idk how much you gain from weapon specialist

civic vessel
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I suppose if they die from bleed it doesn't count towards activation of Agile Engagement?

buoyant aurora
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Does it work on twins well at least?

strange crow
buoyant aurora
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Yeah Im actually using that xD

strange crow
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Oh yeah my b

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Then yeah it would have utility but its main value would be against carapace

buoyant aurora
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Mmmm, okay I see...
Then its not really THAT useful as I thought it would be

hollow ibex
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onslaught is shit on all builds tbh

civic vessel
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Thanks, I'll give this a toss with Weapon Specialist side first and then Focus Fire after

buoyant aurora
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I guess pure 20% dmg is better then

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or was it 15%, i dont remember now

strange crow
strange crow
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mystic lodge
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Glass cannon Vet is the most fun Ive had in Darktide so far.
Sometimes you fill the entire killfeed with your name
Other times you get neg-diffed by poxbursters and flamers, even poxwalkers

tame lodge
mystic lodge
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#makerendingmatter

tame lodge
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Rending already matters
Brittle is overrated

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🗣️

hollow ibex
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true tbh

buoyant aurora
tame lodge
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Maybe you can convince people to run devil's claw

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Since devil's claw sucks against flak armor

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You'd get value out of brittleness against the twins

true jackal
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parry rinda

tame lodge
buoyant aurora
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I mean understandable, people wanna win

civic vessel
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Minor bias that I have is being in Asia region where everyone goes off on their own and tries to speedrun

mystic lodge
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I use krak against crushers and IAG against gunners/specialists. Devils claw can take care of everything else, especially hordes of groanders sneaking up on my ass

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its not a fast killer but its a safe backup weapon for a ranged-focus vet

faint beacon
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my friend did 100k over me with it when I was running Taxe Vet and we did 2.5x the total of our team

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DC Scum is crazy dont sleep on it

steel sapphire
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Is this still obtainable? Or is it gone for good?

tall torrent
fair shale
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Shop defo rotates on the 17th?

steel sapphire
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Oh really? Sweet we’ll see ig haha

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I was about to ask

tall torrent
civic vessel
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oh yeah what are some good mods for this game?

#

I only checked nexus to see if there was anyway to stop the game from abducting my mouse whenever i alt-tab

true jackal
#

the auto fire and auto melee mods are recommended

#

healthbars is nice, scoreboard is fun to gauage your stats (the nexus download is broken for that rn though)

civic vessel
#

scoreboard = combat stats mod?

#

oh no it's a diff one entirely huh

true jackal
#

if you want that one rn you gotta go to the modding discord

#

crashes the game unfortunately

hollow ibex
#

this is what im using

civic vessel
#

thanks will give it a scan

uneven acorn
#

do y'all use deadshot on your lasgun builds?

tame lodge
#

Nuh uh

uneven acorn
#

📝 thank

civic vessel
#

Dum2 Infernus for me all day

#

o the Talent, naw too much brain, Guardssman no need for thoughts

crimson wyvern
#

is this new?

#

dont remember two inspection animations

fair shale
#

Its been in game for as long as i remember

#

Knife has a unique anim for inspections too

#

Balances on the tip of your finger

civic vessel
#

What's the reasoning behind Bolt Pistol having Collat as the dump stat?

strange crow
#

Only instance where 80 collat helps is boltgun on vet since it lets you open up bulwarks in 2 shots

true jackal
civic vessel
#

interesting

true jackal
#

so the performance literally doesn't change between 60-80, same amount of shots to stagger either way

civic vessel
#

guess i wasted resources on a few guns huh

#

well everything is still usable

true jackal
#

the difference between 60-80% of like mobility isn't often very much either

civic vessel
#

I must farm more Diamantine

pulsar gorge
#

hey I havent checked zealot talents tree since the update and I noticed the game deleted my saved talents for the one shot boss hammer build, did they changed something in the talent tree that could have changed this build?

strange crow
#

Pathing and everything

pulsar gorge
#

I was using Mr. Unc Zealot build from 2 months ago Im assuming it doesnt work anymore?

calm shard
fair shale
#

Whats the other?

calm shard
#

balancing it on your palm xd

fair shale
#

Oh fuck yeah I think I've seen that once

#

Biggest selling point of knife use is the cool inspection animations

#

This game just like CS frfr

strange crow
#

My b I misread your original message

pulsar gorge
#

I just copied the one I saw in his video lol

#

I don't know if that one is up to date

tough vine
#

Soon please

topaz scarab
#

which is better to run

#

executioner stance

#

or voice of command

tall torrent
#

they're roughly equal

topaz scarab
#

after running executioner stance, i do miss having a oh shit bail out of jail card

tall torrent
#

depends on what u prefer

#

not the same purpose

topaz scarab
#

yea, one for taking on target, the other is more team work

#

though

tall torrent
#

one turns veteran into veteran pro max plus

topaz scarab
#

i do find my self in more oh shit i need to run moment when running executioner

tall torrent
#

the other resets melee fights and helps ur team more

topaz scarab
#

like, i miss being able to just press f and then run

tall torrent
topaz scarab
#

diff?

calm shard
tall torrent
#

difficulty

topaz scarab
#

usually herecy

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i asume its this game aqruivilant to hard mode

#

also the amount of time the game just throw crusher at me make me realy wanna reconsider krak grenade

tall torrent
#

hard would be havoc 31+

#

standard would be auric

topaz scarab
#

so you telling me i been getting my shit kick in on baybe mode

tall torrent
#

wouldn't call it baby mode

#

just, practice mode (hard)

fair shale
#

Heresy is the first real difficulty ime

#

It's where more real hordes start showing up and enemy health tweaks are more apparent

#

Good place to learn things

topaz scarab
#

and also am missing one wound

fair shale
#

You'll get used to it, promise

tall torrent
#

not the other way around

lyric path
#

question how rare are we stealth vets?

topaz scarab
#

prob more executioner and voice then stealth

#

but then again

pulsar gorge
topaz scarab
#

they prob in stealth so i never seen em

#

oh god

#

am running out of scroll

#

why so many fucking veteran accessories have this shit on

hollow ibex
bleak jackal
#

thougts on the falchion?

lyric path
hollow ibex
stark holly
#

when using the plasma gun, sometimes the shot just cancels. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? I cant tell if my mouse is dying or something

hollow ibex
#

used to be a stealth main

bleak jackal
#

dumpstat plasma gun?

distant plaza
#

69 thermal, 71 charge rate ish

bleak jackal
#

nice thanks

stuck gorge
#

ranged weapon primer doc is in the owners trash lol

hollow ibex
#

from 2023 tbf

stuck gorge
#

oh well, we'll get to see it unpinned someday soon

#

🫡

tall torrent
small mason
#

Does anyone else lag when using the plasma gun? I use mods if that helps.

tall torrent
topaz scarab
#

this is alot of bullshit

#

an entire firing line just standing there

tall torrent
near knot
tall torrent
near knot
#

recently installed

tall torrent
#

ok then idk

topaz scarab
#

then get new graphics card

tall torrent
#

newest for Nvidia is on Dec04

near knot
#

its a game issue

topaz scarab
#

i havent updated my driver alot

#

it still work decent

near knot
#

i have a 5070 ti bro

topaz scarab
#

oh 5070

near knot
#

i dont need a new gpu

#

lol

topaz scarab
#

glad i got my 5080 when it was

#

uh

#

pre ai clusteruck

#

try this

near knot
#

i dont have performance issues, its just the bug with plasma gun thats it

topaz scarab
#

oh the plasma gun

#

yea alot of people been having that

#

same for me

#

but then again

#

i dont use it

#

i use bolter and auto gun

near knot
#

me neither, not anymore

#

i use bolt pistol and tbh its better for me

topaz scarab
#

plasma just dont have the respond i need

#

i dont fancy using melee half my game and wait 3 second to shoot

#

my auto gun can shred monster and armored just fine

#

seriously, auto gun is soo good

#

i can see why most people dont use las gun

#

litearlly flash light

#

anyone know how to make good drip out of the poisoner stuff

#

like, is this even consider good

#

or do i just look like a zealot

fair shale
#

Do you like it?

topaz scarab
#

its eh

#

but not like i have a choice

#

free ware do be kinda shit

fair shale
#

Then its eh

#

Cosmetics don't mean anything unless you like or dislike em

grave geyser
#

on paper it looks like the bolt pistol mk iv is better than the mk vi in every way; what the hell? what am i missing here?

uncut ore
#

This penance gonna drive me mad

"just run shout + plasma gun you literally can't loose"

I CAN

#

Scoreboard mod says i'm doing just as good as the rest of my team, or better, but like I can't not die at least 1/10 times while running public games

hollow ibex
#

vi gets an explosion on impact

#

which generates light stagger and damage

#

but isn't worth it on vet

topaz lance
#

Been playing exe boltor a bit and was wondering if someone has a build I could compare what I'm doing against.

uncut ore
pine plume
#

Take out a loan

#

For 2000% interest

topaz lance
dreamy spade
#

What's the blessings for power sword on havoc? I see power cycler + sunder/bromentum

How much does sunder even increase cleave by? Surely wrath does more?

Also, is mobility dump stat if you're not taking bromentum?

true jackal
#

sunder increases the cleave to like 40

#

which is more then you will ever need

pine plume
#

And that +20% damage on heavies is juicy

dreamy spade
#

Slaughter does more?

pine plume
#

But you only have 2 blessings slots, and power cycler is a given

dreamy spade
#

Yeah so power cycler + slaughterer?

true jackal
#

slaught gives significantly less cleave then sunder

#

and the power sword doesn't particularly need damage

mystic lodge
true jackal
#

again 40 cleave is 40 hit mass of cleave

#

that's 40 poxwalkers (give or take)

dreamy spade
#

Jesus

pine plume
#

Also sunder is instant

pine plume
#

Which is nice when you're mobbed by 10 rangers

pine plume
tall torrent
pine plume
#

You can dump cleave because you get cleave from sunder

tall torrent
#

even if u don't run sunder, cleave targets is still the dump stat

#

10.9 (60% cleave targets) vs 11.7 (80% cleave targets)

#

u don't cleave any more of things that actually matter

dreamy spade
#

Got it, thank you

#

What about single target attacks, most of them are horizontal?

tall torrent
#

sunder makes power sword the strongest mixed horde melee in the game

tall torrent
pine plume
#

Isn't it different for the 2 marks?

tall torrent
#

But the actual inputs are the same

#

They just use diff atks

dreamy spade
# tall torrent

Yeah I wanna run it with weapon specialist to compensate for lack of mobility but the crit modifier for power sword isn't that good

pine plume
#

I'm pretty sure for one of them it's lights and for the other it's heavies into hordes

pine plume
#

Don't remember which is which

tall torrent
#

Crit chance or crit total damage

dreamy spade
#

Crit damage

tall torrent
#

No?

#

U hit for >5000 damage in 1 atk with all relevant buffs on carapace

dreamy spade
#

Ah yeah, the carapace crit damage is like x5

#

Everything else is less than double

tall torrent
tall torrent
dreamy spade
#

I was just looking at body to crit

tall torrent
dreamy spade
#

I thought they just increase strength, they increase finesse too?

tall torrent
#

Diff atk profiles

dreamy spade
#

Didn't it use to cleave through carapace?

tame lodge
#

By default carapace stops all cleave with a few exceptions

#

If it USED to

#

Then damn

#

What was Fatshark cooking

tall torrent
#

but carapace by default ends all cleave on contact

tepid otter
unreal nova
#

I saw someone did that, lvl 3, shovel only.

crimson wyvern
#

So happy to see executioner stance make a comeback

#

So proud of this chat

azure narwhal
#

Melee has never been easier

#

And with confirmed kill it's pretty much full resistance to chip

#

You just outgen everything

dreamy spade
#

I'm wondering what competitive urge uptime is like in havoc, it calculates to around 40 enemies killed to proc

tall torrent
#

could try tho

#

if u smth like power sword + plasma u have ~1 flex point for havoc

#

it usually comes down between grenadier or right side's +25 TGH

tepid panther
#

Anyone got a bolter build?

dreamy spade
tall torrent
#

born leader not rly worth if u don't play exe stance

dreamy spade
hollow ibex
#

30% is ok

#

it's the weakspot damage perk you typically want to avoid

tall torrent
sharp epoch
tepid panther
#

For the boltgun is mobility and collateral interchangeable as dump stats?

tall torrent
#

For z/arb, dump collateral

tepid panther
#

Gotcha.

#

Are the weapon combos in hammer of the emperor doc still viable?

#

Because the tact axe one seems odd.

hollow ibex
tepid panther
#

Mk 7

hollow ibex
#

there's a few ways to go about that one, but those are the combos i use

topaz scarab
#

wheres lmg for veteran fat shark

#

am tired of these magazine size weapons

stuck gorge
#

LMG that doesn’t require reload so I can waste my entire ammo supply before first exe stance use runs out

languid stump
#

Would other weapons like the melta gun and the grenade launcher be a good addition to the game or not

stuck gorge
#

we already got the rumbler, don’t see why we can’t get one for vet at this point

near knot
#

What is y'all's fav voice for veteran

#

For me it's cutthroat even though he can be insufferable about cadia but his ability voice lines go hard

hollow ibex
#

cutthroat

#

hes a bitch and im all for it

topaz scarab
#

which one should i sacrifice

#

like

#

i gotta keep one to use

tame lodge
#

Always reliable everyman

topaz scarab
#

yea

#

the cutthroat is abit too

#

well

#

a cunt

#

and the the uh

#

thats the other one again

tame lodge
#

Loose Cannon

topaz scarab
#

yea

#

hes abit

#

he doesnt really sound like a guard

near knot
#

Loose Cannon is goofy

jaunty tinsel
#

Professional is the one i run

topaz scarab
#

i think a lossed cannon fit sedition best

#

not sure i see why profestional would end up in jail

#

and uh

#

cut throat

#

i doubt they would fucking jail a cadian

strange crow
topaz scarab
#

whats the best mark for the infantry auto gun

#

seem like the varks is the best to me

strange crow
#

Agri has high damage per bullet but low fire rate and lots of recoil

#

So usually worse than the other 2

near knot
#

But he still kinda goofy

strange crow
#

Yeah that’s part of the charm though!

#

Talks like a true hiver imo lol

near knot
#

Yeah he is the funniest of them

near knot
#

Clear opposite of cutthroat imo

tall torrent
near knot
#

Cutthroat is everything but chill

dapper coyote
#

Thank you Magis Oblivious

My fav line from loose cannon

near knot
#

THERE IS ONLY WAR

strange crow
dapper coyote
strange crow
#

Master manipulator

#

They’re lowk bros though

#

It’s heartwarming lol

dapper coyote
#

Male Loose Cannon is somewhat trustworthy and having coping issues

Meanwhile female Loose Cannon is just unhinged

strange crow
#

Oh yeah lmao I use male

jaunty tinsel
#

insubordination can easily boil down to "the officer doesn't like you"

near knot
#

My fav thing about loose Cannon is he doesn't know any codenames of enemy specialists and just gives up

strange crow
#

The Imperium is supposed to be comically inefficient and nonsensical at times

jaunty tinsel
#

i like to believe my professional was ordered into a suicide assault by a vengeful officer so he broke orders to get it done

near knot
#

Traxis something something... Kill the bomber!

tall torrent
jaunty tinsel
#

also sedition is as miniscule as saying "gee maybe the abbott shouldn't be having 5-course gourmet with waste while the people are starving"

#

like right between the lines it gives that very example

#

you gotta take this in the context of a North Korea style dictatorship where it comes down entirely down to politics and the personal opinion of your prosecutor; if he/she doesn't like you and you have no political protections, then literally any human error can be used to screw you over

#

likewise if your prosecutor likes you or you have powerful friends, you can be as Un-Imperial as you like until an Inquisitor shows up

#

and even then

#

i see the Professional as basically a Morrow Jr, and Morrow was lucky enough to run into the Inquisition right after fragging a Commissar, the Professional wasn't so lucky

#

well, technically he was, but you know what i mean

dapper coyote
#

Im playing vet as a zealot at this point lmao

#

Melee first and maybe use the gun

topaz scarab
#

you wont have enough ammo to purge all heretics

dapper coyote
#

Im having laughs whenever i sniped a sniper using fucking DBs

topaz scarab
#

what ever the shotgun 40k have, these are def not 12 gage

dapper coyote
topaz scarab
#

hehe, nice

near knot
hollow ibex
#

eh not really

topaz scarab
#

is the only way to empower stuff is to reach mastery level 20?

dry cloak
#

to 500 yes

hollow ibex
#

i think you can empower up to a certain level early on

#

but then to 500

#

you need to get to 19

topaz scarab
#

well that fucking sucks

hollow ibex
#

yeah it's a grind for sure

dry cloak
#

its better than old system

dapper coyote
#

Mom can we have Relic Blade?

We have Relic Blade at home.

Relic Blade at home:

near knot
floral creek
#

Do I need the extra grenade talent when running kraks?

near knot
dapper coyote
#

Because corrupted by Khorne

jaunty tinsel
#

the commissar deserved it, he was possessed by khorne yeah

dapper coyote
#

But he didn't know he was corrupted

jaunty tinsel
#

but that's irrelevant to Imperial law

floral creek
#

Yea the commissar was falling into the angry sickness

jaunty tinsel
dapper coyote
#

True, but Morrow is the guy you can trust

floral creek
dapper coyote
#

He pulled a UNO reverse card

jaunty tinsel
#

my point is just that morrow is essentially the professional

#

if things had gone slightly differently

hollow ibex
dapper coyote
#

I wished Vet gets more zealots melee weapon lmao

#

Hey everyone gets Hsword, now pls gib one from Zealots armory

tall torrent
#

nah

#

evis, relic and TH shud stay zealot exclusive

dapper coyote
#

Crushers?

tall torrent
#

they wouldn't even scale well for other classes

#

crusher is not zealot exclusive anymore

#

arb gets it too

dapper coyote
#

The big ol mace thingy?

#

Gib to everyone pls

tall torrent
#

nah

#

big 2-handed mace isn't rly an imperial guard thing

dapper coyote
#

Fuck

#

You're right

tall torrent
#

also I finally finished all vet melee weapons in steam guide

#

falchion so mid

#

making these 2 was absolutely abysmal

#

relic blades (TBA later) will prob have to be 2 images for each variant

topaz scarab
#

god why did they make the plasma rifle lag your game bruh

#

this is soo ass

tall torrent
topaz scarab
#

why

rustic hemlock
#

plasma still cooked?

woven mirage
#

does updating drivers fix plasma gun bug?

topaz scarab
#

the heck does the game do to require a new driver

rustic hemlock
#

lmfao

topaz scarab
#

making an effect requiring a new driver is stupid

#

like

#

the game is several years old

tall torrent
topaz scarab
#

am not playing battlefied 6 here

topaz scarab
#

since theres the axe

#

or enegy sword

dapper coyote
#

-# literally cope blade lmao

tame lodge
primal zealot
#

and what public might that be ?

rustic hemlock
#

ok so as dumb as it sounds

#

updating nvidia actually fixed plasma

#

lmfao

stark holly
#

I have the plasma issue but I’m on the latest drivers on my amd gpu

spiral temple
#

Apparently I've got 19 special missions done by my veteran but it won't tell me which one is missing... I love this game but come on!

hollow coral
dapper coyote
#

It tells you've done it or not if you can review the end cutscene

mellow halo
#

am I just dumb I'm getting dumpstered with the power sword

#

gr...

waxen glen
#

Does plasma gun still want the 71/69 split?

uneven acorn
mellow halo
uneven acorn
#

are y'all waiting in between shots for your lasgun spread to reset or just blasting at max speed

mellow halo
#

I might just be dogshit at the game

uneven acorn
#

it doesn't do good damage without powering it up but it can kill dregs and stuff

true fern
#

i`m once again asking chat what am i supposed to use on power falchion

tepid otter
true fern
azure narwhal
#

Make sure to have at least carapace on your perks

sharp epoch
barren nexus
#

Guys ik this might sound dumb

#

But I see stats such as mobility has 20/60

#

Do i improve them by upgrading their mastery?

#

Does the mastery act like a soft lock on the stats

tall torrent
#

Mastery is basically an unlock track of getting higher tier perks, blessings and allowing u to empower weapon to higher rating

barren nexus
#

Ah so it does act like a softlock but I'd still have to empower them myself to get the rating on the right

dreamy spade
#

I take weapon specialist for it

spiral temple
dreamy spade
barren nexus
#

guys is this viable

tepid otter
final charm
remote sonnet
final charm
#

is a 5% difference in penetration noticeable

remote sonnet
#

Yes, because your crit and everything scale with it, too.

barren nexus
#

might as well keep rolling

dreamy spade
#

Is power sword horde attack just L1 L2 L3

spare cobalt
#

does the curio's stamina reduction perk effect deadshot?

dreamy spade
spare cobalt
#

got it, thx

mystic lodge
#

What the fuck is with these silent poxbursters

tepid otter
#

sneaky beaky like

stuck geyser
#

plasma gun still destroys fps?

vale nova
#

What's the best weapon for veteran?

floral creek
#

Exclusive?

#

Plasma gun

#

Power sword

#

But that's subjective

proud jolt
#

Gotta say, I'm not a fan of the plasma gun, well that and the meta, I enjoy using the las pistol way more, hits hard and has a million more shots

floral creek
#

The lasguns are always good

#

Very reliable

proud jolt
#

I did a run with 78k boss dmg with it

#

Then you have the recon lasgun with 1000 rounds

#

You just melt everything in sight

#

I like running the new power sword for vet

#

I don't like having to constantly activate my weapon every swing so I enjoy the new one more

floral creek
#

Totally understandable

proud jolt
floral creek
proud jolt
#

This from my last run

#

The 74k is boss and the 744 is reg enemies

#

A fun gun is the revolver, you can make that hit hard

weary knot
#

There is a mod on nexus to fix the plasma problem, anyone tried it ?

heavy rover
remote sonnet
#

What's plasma problem?

agile mortar
#

Sapper shovel dump stat?

#

I assume it's mobility

weary knot
remote sonnet
#

Oh, I never notice it.

crude widget
#

Alright fellas, I’m finally level 30, what should I do now?

topaz lance
#

Ugh, I take kraks not because I like them but because with the recent patches masses of Crushers/Maulers are one of the most annoying threats in the game. I really hope they do something about the spawn rates/balancing. On top of that, the hivescum tube makes kraks look like firecrakers. Just make frags viable again Fatshark, I'm begging you.

dense belfry
wraith locust
#

With rotten out of rotation kraks don’t feel as necessary

topaz lance
# wraith locust Frags are good

They are! But I've been overwhelmed by a pack of carapace one time too many.
I also play auric mostly. I cannot into high havoc

wraith locust
#

That’s reasonable

proud jolt
#

I like using the shredder grenades

prime wyvern
#

whats a versatile starter melee for vet

pine plume
full salmon
#

I wonder what gun do people even use that can deal 1K+ damages on boss in less than a second dude

#

Those lv30+ players clear the boss so quick I didn't even get chances to join the force 😭

full salmon
pine plume
full salmon
#

Mk5 ?? are those from other classes?

pine plume
#

No

#

It's a mark

full salmon
azure narwhal
#

Well it's the best vet weapon in general but

#

You get the point

full salmon
#

The stats of those weapon tell me heavy attack of Duelling sword dealing more damage than either powerswordd or axe but someone they manage to outdamage duelling sword

#

I just find it confusing as hell

azure narwhal
#

There is a lot of modifiers to read into you, you'd have to take your time learning how damage is calculated

wraith locust
azure narwhal
#

So in conclusion

#

Just test stuff yourself

wraith locust
#

Or Rashad

prime wyvern