veteran-class

[obsidian shoal]

i aint high enough level for them to show up i think, im not sure at what level they start showing up.

[dapper coyote]

Just check the other menu

Or mastery

[obsidian shoal]

melk i have 0 coins ;D

[fresh thistle]

give me an opinion on this victory pose with my current drip

[dapper coyote]

Nice

[obsidian shoal]

ah power falchion is lvl 23

and plasma 16, i see thanks

[fresh thistle]

power falchion isnt worth using bud

[obsidian shoal]

then whats a good melee weap?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/veteran-squad-leader this is what im looking at

[fresh thistle]

@hollow ibex this one all you buddy

[dapper coyote]

Psword

For cheese

[obsidian shoal]

im using a chainsword rn, its fun ;D

just chainsaw them to the ground lul

[fresh thistle]

this is what i'm using for my chainsword

[dapper coyote]

If im beyond fucking lazy, i just use Chaxe

Just press M1 and maybe rev + heavy for crushers

If im trying harding im using Psword

The other alternatives are Saul or knoif

[obsidian shoal]

is there a uh

revolver guide?

[dapper coyote]

Maxxing reload + WS build for me

[obsidian shoal]

WS?

[dapper coyote]

Weapon specialist

[obsidian shoal]

ah

[dapper coyote]

One of the best nodes

[obsidian shoal]

im not that far in the game ;D

[dapper coyote]

Just play until you hit lvl 30 first

[obsidian shoal]

and then worry about builds and such?

[dapper coyote]

Then comeback to decide on what builds you want or what builds available for fun/auric/havoc stuff

[obsidian shoal]

kk got it thanks

[thin stone]

How's the chainsword in havoc 30-40?

anyone?

[manic bramble]

I'm not into havoc but last I heard it has become more viable relative to in the past

[tame lodge]

First you'd have to find someone willing to suffer
Secondly you'd have better results on the other classes, they have better cleave talents

[thin stone]

Oof

[tame lodge]

Yeah the thick hordes are thick

[limber bane]

for h40 do you guys use focus target or specialist

[heavy rover]

Focus target so I can give toughness to the team

That or marksman focus

[heavy rover]

I'm curious, which mark and blessings/perks do you run on that?

[dapper coyote]

Headtaker for strength stacks
Thunderous for ignore armor
MkXII

Is it meta? Idfk, it works

Chaffs, armored, maulers, just spam m1 and they probably will die in time, maybe shove if im overwhelmed

Captains shields or crushers, rev and heavy

[neon pecan]

ayo, I was able to make this "illegal" tree? Is this normal?

[dapper coyote]

Hmmmmmmmmm

Isn't there a rework on how the trees functioned now?

I believe it was ganger update

[livid hill]

FUCKING BOSS

pair that with the commissar hat

[neon pecan]

weird thing is I can't build up, only down, but I was able to remove the Takedown node without removing Volley. I can't select the Volley node from Close Order

so I don't believe this is intentionally part of the update

[thin stone]

@tame lodge How is bolt pistol on the veteran in havoc 40?

and can it be paired with the power falchion?

And is the lasgun any better now

Anyone?

[tame lodge]

Mostly for buffing frag grenades

[thin stone]

Oof

Why do people prefer shovel over power falchion

Power falchion seems to be better

[neon pecan]

More armored enemies in higher difficulties, and it has Skullcrusher, which is probably in the S++ tier of blessings in the game if that's still the META

TBH just run what you like though, I like PF more so I build around it

[azure narwhal]

That's not bad btw, lethal prox kraks trivialize carapace

But there are better options if you care more about the actual gun

Bistol is just that, a sidearm

[thin stone]

I also like the power falchion over power sword. Can you give your h40 build

[neon pecan]

Lethal Prox builds on Vet are some of the most fun builds in the game. BPistol is good at removing flaked ranged targets, letting Krak bonuses from Prox ramp up

[azure narwhal]

Falchion for h40 is not the best idea

Psword is the king of vet

[thin stone]

Oof

[neon pecan]

I will send my build for falchion

[thin stone]

Is ILas viable in H40

[azure narwhal]

You can certainly play with anything, but that goes without saying. Rankings exist for a reason

[thin stone]

With Power sword ofc

[neon pecan]

ILas unfortunately has a lot of issues, more than P falchion in higher diffs imo

[azure narwhal]

Ehhhh not really you'd have to commit to make ILas work via exec stance + MMF

[thin stone]

What about autoguns

[azure narwhal]

If you say helbore or recon, that's better

[thin stone]

Those viable?

[neon pecan]

Recon Las is amazing

[azure narwhal]

Infantry is pretty solid

[thin stone]

Infantry or Braced pls

[thin stone]

Even in H40?

[azure narwhal]

You certainly could. Plenty of more stuff now is viable for high havoc

Double barrel + shovel

Cole's build

Pretty fun too

[thin stone]

Can you give infantry autogun + psword build

Also what button do I map PS6 charging to?

[azure narwhal]

Exec stance + mmf is a solid option for infantry autoguns

[azure narwhal]

Side mouse button, my suggestion

[thin stone]

Ok

[azure narwhal]

This is my favourite infantry autogun setup btw, but use what you like

[thin stone]

Cool

[stuck geyser]

why is the meta to use power sword over for example duelling sword?

[heavy rover]

With Ghost, yeah I'd say so

[heavy rover]

Once you get into the rhythm with the charge up you can handle a lot of mixed hordes. Especially with Sunder + Power cycler combo. Add trench fighter drills and serrated edge talents, you can do crazy damage

[tame lodge]

Power Sword (when powered) deals with hordes and single targets without a problem
Dueling Sword is only single target

So generalist> specialized

[gleaming patrol]

Any tips on how to use the power sword? I'm so used to dueling lol

[tame lodge]

Power Cycler
Always power up
You can animation cancel the power up animation with a block or push
Use mk6

[gleaming patrol]

Okay thanks, so I should mainly do heavy attacks?

[tame lodge]

That's the funny thing

You don't

It's all lights

Or

Push Attack light light for single target

[gleaming patrol]

But is power cycler not only for heavy?

An nevermind read it wrong'

[tame lodge]

You're probably reading Sunder
But Sunder is for all powered attacks

Only the extra damage is heavy exclusive

[gleaming patrol]

Right is there not better cleave stuff then?

But ye I tried using it now like that and I can see why it's better then dueling

[tame lodge]

No because Fatshark doesn't tell you this but
Sunder is essentially +400% and can cleave through carapace

The alternative to sunder would be Brutal Momentum

On weakspot kill it'll transfer the single target damage to another 3 targets

So you can kill 4 targets with a powerful swing

It doesn't work on Ogryn sized enemies though

Well power Cycler is mandatory
So no Sunder + BM

[gleaming patrol]

Ah okay

thanks for the help

I think the dueling sword is more fun but the power sword does feel much more OP lol

[tame lodge]

Yeah which is crazy because Dueling Sword is also OP

We spent like 2 years asking it to be nerfed just for it to be "nerfed"

💀

They reduced some damage here and there but the classes have gotten stronger

So nothing ever happens

🗣️

[little path]

wait so is krak the meta nade now?

what changed?

is it because all the grenade talents are right next to eachother making it super easy to spam kraks into a boss with enhanced damage?

[neon pecan]

they changed high havocs to be more Rot Armor and Crushers than shooters, bleed nades r still v good, you see people swap kraks for bleed when rots out of rotation mor

[tame lodge]

Probably because you can bulwark prejudice max without the long fuse

[little path]

oh, it's just shooter spam isn't in high havoc anymore?

that's good

or

less

[neon pecan]

shooter spam is lessened yeah, bubble psykers are less now 2 so smokes have a bit more of a place

[little path]

I imagine it ain't used with bolter builds though

bolter builds are still frags?

[neon pecan]

explosive prox on bolt pistol can buff frags

[little path]

sorry I meant spearhead

[spark mauve]

Anyonye gonna be on today

[calm shard]

crusher double health, krak half fuse and 1 extra base

even the absolute best carapace damage melees struggle to kill havoc crushers in a reasonable timeframe

kraks you chuck one and he's dead

possibly more depending on density

[neon pecan]

I have 1 point left over in this build, Krak focused using explosive prox and shovel with Uncanny + Skullcrusher, where should I put it?

[molten cedar]

Newish player to DT. How come the Veteran's ability kinda feels useless?

[little path]

they kinda are?

exec stance is a very very powerful damage boost

but works best with specific guns

VOC isn't very flashy

and doesn't inherently give any damage boosts

[neon pecan]

VOC with yellow toughness is the strongest ability in the game

[little path]

but in terms of what they actually do

they're insanely powerful

vet's abilities overall are very uuuuh

standard

[molten cedar]

Well whatever the move that you use RB to activate

[little path]

I would not recommend using controller

[calm shard]

no lol

[molten cedar]

Xbox player here

[calm shard]

it's like

not even top 5 imo

it's good don't get me wrong

but best in the game is def overrating it pretty heavily

[molten cedar]

No idea what VOC even stands for

[calm shard]

Voice of Command

[little path]

oof

[neon pecan]

this is the order I would have done

[little path]

I would reocmmend dropping the middle sub-node of the keystone

it's not that good

[neon pecan]

gain an extra 10% dmg for +3 seconds of waiting isn't too bad imo

[little path]

or take one of the orange nodes and get more when you just use your VOC

[neon pecan]

left tree oranage node is okay, right tree is kind of a trap node imo, close range is like 6m and VOC will push people outside of that range

[molten cedar]

Ohhhhh there's a point limit? I've just been putting all my points into everything lol

[little path]

usually focus target only really helps against bosses

[neon pecan]

lvl 30 cap for all classes, you gain +1 point to spend per lvl

[molten cedar]

I'll have to remember that, I assume I can reset my tree whenever I want?

[little path]

ye

[analog mural]

As a bonus it will also reset when you don't want

[neon pecan]

ye, and unless you're running a TH Zealot you can usually get 3 seconds of time for the extra 10% dmg

Bosses are a joke tho on Vet, Powersword with the right stuff can melt a boss by itself in 7 seconds, so you aren't wrong

[molten cedar]

Oh goodie....

[little path]

I mean focus target is a joke

[calm shard]

15 in havocs, about 10 in auric

seconds

and obv that's if nothing else is going on and you're just 1v1ing a plague ogryn

[little path]

but the build is specifically trying to use it

[calm shard]

power sword mobility is going to fuck you out of that timeframe if anything else is happening around you

[little path]

might as well just drop the middle subnode and take more damage for using your VOC

that way you get better performance overall instead of the extra 10% on pretty much just bosses

[neon pecan]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxn7QjQC0eBQUWXOn5kPwONbf59MpWN6Zd?si=sfZe20oRX15vo9b5

[little path]

is that tanner or linderberg?

wait that's the same guy

yeah anyway, that build sucks

it's literally a build that just shows off how fast you can kill a plogryn

[calm shard]

oh sorry I was talking about like

normal builds

not "see how fast I can kill a plague ogryn :)" builds

[little path]

that's standing still and you're taking all the talents specifically for DPSing one enemy

[calm shard]

in which case I could show you exe stance vet killing one in 3 seconds

which is also a practical build for exe

instead of going all in on the fucking powersword

[neon pecan]

I mean tbf it's really not that hard to ramp that far on PS

[little path]

you know what is hard?

[neon pecan]

considering you have 3 teammates buffing you as well

[calm shard]

exe builds do this faster, and without having to take weird talent choices

[neon pecan]

I agree

this is in a bubble in psyk by yourself

[little path]

melee vet

relies on voc for safety

[neon pecan]

I'm saying with 3 people also providing buffs its easy to do this ttk without having to hard spec like that

[little path]

and powersword isn't very mobile

[little path]

it's also easy to do without speccing like thateven slightly

[neon pecan]

I mean you guys are saying he's only getting that TTK by speccing that way, now you're saying you can do it without speccing that way in a bubble without teamates? Where's the logical throughline here

[little path]

here's the skinny

focus target sucks

you're using 1-2 points to give you a damage boost on 1 target

just take those poitns and put them into other stuff

you could spec fully into boss damage

[neon pecan]

This guy is telling me to go right orange node instead of bottom middle keystone

insane

[little path]

but realistically this causes your build to struggle against anything else in the game

[neon pecan]

a node that directly conflicts with VOC

[little path]

if you can't walk back into an enemy after you pop voc

there's something going wrong

[neon pecan]

Bottom middle keystone is speccing for boss dmg

free 30% to all sources includes your Kraks my guy

[little path]

alright fine, if you want to build that way, go for it

[azure narwhal]

FT simply needs an investment (2 subnodes) just like MMF so you can't take "the build" that WS would allow, but that's not the only viable/good thing

[latent ridge]

guys what blessings would you do in falchion for general purposes? i use the Mk IIb coz i like the angle combo for clearing: heavy+light+light and for elite killing light+heavy+heavy, so i need some good damage to penetrate armor and improve the good use of it

[neon pecan]

It includes DOT values as well

I'm not saying it's the literal best thing, but to say its bad is wrong

[little path]

everything in this game can be used in auric

nothing is technically bad

[calm shard]

it's def outclassed by vet's other 2 keystones that's for sure

[azure narwhal]

Cranial + wrath; flak + carapace

[little path]

but if we're trying to make the distinction of what is better

[neon pecan]

far left node is the weakest imo

[little path]

just saying that FT is bad is easier

[neon pecan]

except for a few weapons that use it

[calm shard]

yeah and you only take it on those weapons

[azure narwhal]

This

[latent ridge]

thanks a lot

[little path]

just like how saying stealth on vet is bad is easier than saying that it's good but outclassed by the other two

[calm shard]

FT is the "I am using weapons that do not benefit from the better keystones" keystone

[azure narwhal]

Its spefcific but good

[azure narwhal]

Welcome

[azure narwhal]

Yeah, was about to say. What would you do for full auto bolter then? WS and MMF would just not work

These build skeletons help people as much as they cause confusion lol

[calm shard]

don't full auto your bolter???

aim?

[azure narwhal]

There's 2 ways to build it though

[calm shard]

yeah and full auto build is the wrong way

[azure narwhal]

No

[candid lantern]

Veteran chads whats the go to now for a strong dam-hersey carry build? i miss using my beta tester gear

[azure narwhal]

Papa willy's build is a good example

He did h40 not so long ago

[little path]

dam-heresy carry

[azure narwhal]

With exactly focus target + fauto bolter

[little path]

literally whatever you feel like

[narrow widget]

yeah but it's the fun way

[molten cedar]

True, tho it eats thru ammo like nobody's business

[narrow widget]

like ok ur telling me u have in ur hands a whole ass bolter

and ur not gonna mag dump into some unsuspecting crusher?

[molten cedar]

EXACTLY

What's the general consensus on best and worst weapon for Vet?

Ranged

[little path]

best are plasma, bolter, lucius

[molten cedar]

How about worst?

[little path]

are you trying to use the worst specifically?

[molten cedar]

I like the bolter but it eats ammo, and takes up too much screen real estate

[molten cedar]

I use the infantry autogun and I love that thing, I was just wondering if people disliked it

[serene bough]

Debatable but ilas is probably the weakest ranged pick

[little path]

I mean yeah the IAG is kinda rough depending on the mk

but I would say the worst ones are like

[serene bough]

Vraks 5 autogun is good

[little path]

Infantry las, revolver (it's good, jsut a weird pick for vet), shredder, vigiliant autos

[molten cedar]

I just started using the double barrel, that thing kicks ass

[little path]

braced autos

[primal zealot]

iag is awesome you just lack recoil control

[little path]

like really none of them are even bad

[serene bough]

Oh, vigilant autoguns are ok but nowhere near effective as other vet options

[little path]

just kinda weird

main thing is vet doesn't feel like much of a marksman

[serene bough]

Helbore is a good marksman rifle

[little path]

especially when you're trying to shoot like 40 dudes in a timely manner

helbore is fantastic

[serene bough]

But when you have a plasma gun w/ 100 cleave and a hitbox the size of a tree log

[little path]

the game makes it hard to be a marksman

[molten cedar]

Yeah I wish the gun didn't kick up so much when ADS

[little path]

your teammates also contributes to it being tough to be a marksman

[serene bough]

Yeah in h40 it's usually not as great of a playstyle

Definitely doable but still

[little path]

the i-las are such a pain to use

the fact that it's semi-auto is uuuh

painful

[molten cedar]

The new hive scum class sucks because they look so much like the cultists

And I end up mag dumping half my mag into a teammate

[narrow widget]

I'd argue brautos are bad at what vet wants to do (unless you're taking like exe stance but even then there are so much better options)

[heavy rover]

Your teammates need better drip lol

[narrow widget]

like ok ilas is bad but at least you can aim somewhat

[little path]

exec wants you to be accurate

brautos are all about spray and pray

[narrow widget]

yea exactly

[little path]

and unlike scum the vet's ammo regen isn't as infinite

can't just kill 1 elite or special to regen 20% ammo

[narrow widget]

that's what I'm sayin

brautos bad on vet

[narrow widget]

and wtf do u mean revolver is a weird pick for vet it's literally synergistic with ws
kill 3 melee and pop a specialist head with guaranteed crit

peak gameplay

[little path]

works great for WS, but 6 rounds, single bullet reload

could just take plasma

[narrow widget]

yea and? it hits all the breakpoints u want it to

[little path]

also the very unfortunate downside of revolver not scaling into havoc as well

[narrow widget]

obv not great into havoc bc ammo limitations but it's still v usable

[little path]

yeah, same as pretty much all the guns

usable but there's some clear better choices

[narrow widget]

like I don't see why ur downplaying revolver it's like
fine
great in everything that isn't havoc
so great for whatever most people are going to be playing anyway

[little path]

kinda like how no one uses the vigilant autoguns because if you want a precision headshot weapon

just shoot em with the big iron

[fair shale]

Bath likes Revo for Havoc iirc

Bath is pretty good, I trust that guy normally

[little path]

Revolver is good

[narrow widget]

yea but path is cracked as fuck probably like does aim training 24/7

[little path]

just a weirder pick for vet when your options have msotly direct upgrades

[fair shale]

Tbf that doesn't make it a bad weapon

[little path]

revolver on zealot etc. Amazing

[narrow widget]

I just don't see ur point
revolver is a good weapon

[little path]

yeah

[narrow widget]

like why are we downplaying it

[little path]

because it's a weird pick on vet

[narrow widget]

ITS NOT

[little path]

kinda of like uuuh

[narrow widget]

THATS THE THING

ITS NOT A WEIRD PICK

[little path]

you would use brautos on hivescum desperado

but not on vet

[narrow widget]

because brautos don't do what vet wants to do

[fair shale]

Brauto has almost never been good on vet outside a meta like 3 years ago

[narrow widget]

revolvers do what vet wants to do

[fair shale]

Revo is actually good on vet and you don't even have to reload the thing

Cause of WS subnodes

[narrow widget]

get in there and pop a specialist head every now and then

[burnt flame]

Just came here to say that vet is the worst class and ogryn is the best.

[narrow widget]

psyker is the best class and it's not even close

[burnt flame]

Psyker is barely a class

its more of a concept

[narrow widget]

it's hilariously op tho

[burnt flame]

its ok i guess

other classes can perform just as well if not better. Psykers are best relegated to being supports

[narrow widget]

are we fr

[burnt flame]

we fr

[hollow ibex]

must be new here

[narrow widget]

lmao

[burnt flame]

not at all. been playing since the beta

i still firmly believe psykers are most useful to the team as a support due to their kits

[narrow widget]

bro flame staff psyker literally deletes the game

[burnt flame]

far to many get to big for their britches and get one shot

[flint lake]

That sheild and shock

[narrow widget]

like shit bro I didn't even want to play the game anyway sorry for existing

[flint lake]

Crazy controll

[burnt flame]

its ok, i forgive you.

[hollow ibex]

ok then you gotta get on with the times, old man

[burnt flame]

i refuse. You youngins and your new fangled doodads are cause a whole hootenany of issues

[serene bough]

Get this grampa out of here

[burnt flame]

Zealot gang

[serene bough]

(Idk the context of this conversation i just wanted to say this)

[burnt flame]

there is no context. I am purely here to be a menace

be a menace and rage bait

[narrow widget]

grand unc needs to zyn up 💔 🥀

[serene bough]

This is expected from zealot chat

Has been since the creation of this server

[burnt flame]

o7

[heavy rover]

Classic zealot

[burnt flame]

Dont worry, i may rage bait and taunt James Jonah Jameson, but ill always bring me mallet and shout real good for my team

[serene bough]

Does zealot chat still frogpost

90% of my time here im in vet chat 5% in ogryn 5% in gen chat

[burnt flame]

no clue im never in there

[serene bough]

I guess we'll never know then

[molten cedar]

Tried the recon lasgun and I kinda hated it, I have the same complaints with it as the infantry lasgun does: multiple rounds used per shot

[fair shale]

Every las does that

[narrow widget]

every las does that

[hollow ibex]

and then there's shocktrooper surgical helbore 🙂‍↕️

0 ammo per shot

[burnt flame]

helbore definitely does that

[orchid hemlock]

Don't shit on my recon 😈

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c9abbca-ad8e-424c-8780-11409eba0097/funny-laser-pointer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[real nest]

Your class low-key just sucks
-signed a zealot main

[fair shale]

Idk if zealot has ground to stand on for that one rn

[faint beacon]

Not really no lmao

[civic knot]

In the latest veteran talent tree update, was one of these nodes removed and made inherent to veteran's base stats instead of part of the talent tree?

[faint beacon]

Yeah a lot of tax operative modifiers became base

Veterans passive is also now old Determined

[civic knot]

remind me what did old determined do

[faint beacon]

Aka we’re completely immune to being suppressed

Everyone else can be minus us

[civic knot]

thats kinda huge

[faint beacon]

Makes aiming easier in firefights

[civic knot]

but tell me, is one of those stam regen boosts really built into base Vet stats now?

[hollow ibex]

Tfw the melee class has less melee damage output than the hybrid class

[hollow ibex]

Stam regen delay?

Yeah

It's.75 base now

Used to be 1

[civic knot]

👌

[robust herald]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

is that so...

[tame lodge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/FiqiMV2u7Qo?si=UYvzSIrlDv9TmeSd

[fair shale]

Tbh I think aim training means fuck all if you don't know how to transfer the skillset/cant use it when you're getting shot at

[tame lodge]

I fucking love this aim trainer memes

Where they condition their hands into this weird pattern instead of eye to hand coordination

[hollow ibex]

Yeah no ammo used for a crit shot

[inner iris]

only the brown mark for the recon does that

the others only use 1

although i dont get what the gripe here is

[molten cedar]

Saying my gun has 80 ammo yet only being able to fire 40 shots bothers me

[inner iris]

as opossed to what else though

lasguns still have the best ammo regardless even without shock trooper

[molten cedar]

Saying I have 40 shots

[inner iris]

anyways if you want ammo maxing just use the other marks

they have like 100+ mags and use only 1 ammo per shot

speaking of ammo maxing

I've lately become obsessed with builds that let me only use guns that the whole game

I'm starting to think laspistol is better than recon las now because of this

[hollow ibex]

Tbh both recon las and laspis are basically infinite ammo if you build for it

Same with helbore

Vigils and Agri CS can also extremely ammo efficient

[azure narwhal]

As long as you aren't going the braindead shoot everything because im veteran route then pretty much mearly everything will never be that bad

[azure narwhal]

"My name, is Gabriel Angelos."

[inner iris]

but what if i want to be braindead and shoot everyone because im veteran

what if i want to use the same gun to kill everything from poxwalkers to crushers and only use that gun

laspistol can actually do that

[azure narwhal]

Then i am legally allowed to blow up barrels near you, push poxbursters into you and use hate speech

I will take you back to the good old black ops 2 days

[real loom]

Play hive scum

[inner iris]

does hive scum have infinite ammo though

i wouldnt know becuase i dont play em (poor)

[fair shale]

In effect yes

Desperado is infinite ammo

Pickpocket is effectively infinite ammo

[real loom]

20% max ammo every elite/special kill is like infinite ammo

With full rending and revolvers maybe able to kill crushers

[fair shale]

You can mag dump them with macs ime as long as you're in desp, it's still probably better to melee them tho

[hollow ibex]

TTK against crushers on macs is awful lol

[fair shale]

Its bad but you can do it

[hollow ibex]

And that extra rending during desperado isn't enough to make it worthwhile

[real loom]

If im desperado build the melee I use for crushers is shiv, crowbar, or cleaver?

[fair shale]

I use Shivs

They require the least input for the most effect imo

Crowbar and Cleaver both kinda want to be built around ime

[real loom]

Ok ty

[fair shale]

Preemptively

The second mark of shivs is better

The spirals

[real loom]

I didnt know there was different marks

I need to check which one im using rn

Do u know what the better one is named?

[fair shale]

Mk1 I think?

I just closed the game to cook or I'd have screenshot them

Yeah, Mk1s

[inner iris]

shocking

[hollow ibex]

I prefer MkX with deadshot

Much more practical

Also why invis? 🤔

[inner iris]

MkX doesnt horde clear well
I like invis because i get to run fast with the las pistol

less useful for team but i think better for your own survival

[hollow ibex]

Why are you horde clearing with laspis

[inner iris]

also like running around because im doing a ranged build

[hollow ibex]

Use recon XIV then

It actually has cleave

[tall torrent]

that's first mark (mk1)

[fair shale]

First mark is Mkiii for me

Like if I go to swap marks its Mkiii then Mk I

[inner iris]

dont think it kills armoured targets as good

i have frags for better horde clear tho

[hollow ibex]

Well it'll struggle against crushers but you could take kraks or melee for that

It'll be way better than laspis at horde

[inner iris]

dont like kraks because you need extra damage node to 1 shot crushers at high diff

[hollow ibex]

You just need skirmisher or bring it down for aurics crusher

And I assume you're taking one of those already

[inner iris]

idk but i dont think its enough for havoc

plus if you can kill crushers with your weapons well already i do think frags are more useful

[hollow ibex]

Why are you trying to horde clear with a gun in havoc as a vet

[inner iris]

because i dont wanna touch the green goo that explodes from all the poxwalkers

yeah ik you can still melee them and not touch it

[strange crow]

Dawg when do u even plan to use melee if you want your gun/blitz to clear hordes and carapace

[inner iris]

ideally never

thats the whole point of the build

i do have a chainsword for horde clearing for when i get surrounded tho and am out of frags

[hollow ibex]

Yeah go play psyker at this point lol

If you want a purely ranged class and forget that your melee exists

Vet isn't the class for you

Well I guess there's HIV too but not efficient against carapace

[inner iris]

you see, it all started when i decided to want to roleplay as a guardsman all the time, so i tried to play with just inf lasgun and shovel but it just wasnt good enough so i tried to find the next best gun that could was good at everything but also fit the guardsman roleplay and then found out inf lasgun was cracked

tldr its the best build i found that doesnt use dueling/power sword and plasma/recon because i dont like those weapons because they are boring

[strange crow]

You might be playing the wrong game then

[narrow widget]

ok like
what difficulty are you trying to play at

[hollow ibex]

He's trying to do havoc

[narrow widget]

cuz you're lowk throwing if you don't pull out your melee at all in like havoc and your team will suffer for it

[narrow frost]

at the end of the day its a video game, if he enjoys that playstyle go for it. If people take offense they can leave/not invite him

[narrow widget]

true that

[narrow frost]

I play havoc and dont pull out my melee bar rare specials like mutants

[inner iris]

ok never pulling out my melee is a bit of an exaggeration

what i mean is i like to be primarily ranged and only pull out of melee if something comes to me because i didnt shoot it before it got to me

which is usually only poxwalkers

or huge crushers waves

in which case i pop infiltrate and run away to get distance to shoot them more

i solo carried already a couple times already with this playstyle so im not really concerned with being perceived as a thrower in havoc pubs

[hollow ibex]

Recon las or helbore

[inner iris]

recon las runs through deadshot staminia too fast

and helbore too slow

[hollow ibex]

XIV

[hollow ibex]

You don't need full charges in Mk IV and WOF is a thing

[tall torrent]

dual_shivs_p1_m1 is mk1 so

[fair shale]

Aight

[molten cedar]

Do Zealot and Psyker have the same weapons that Veteran has or are they different?

[fair shale]

Most classes share a few common weapons and have their own uniques

Psyker have Staves and a few force melees, zealot has flamer, eviscerator, thunderhammer, relic blade and I might be blanking on one

Vet uniques are power sword, shovel, falchion and plasma

In short, different weapons

[molten cedar]

How about ranged?

[fair shale]

Flamer

Idk the psyker staff names by their new names tbh

[tame lodge]

Flamer is zealots exclusive
Staves are Psyker's
Plasma and Helbore are vet's

They share everything else

[fair shale]

Forgot HB was vetsclusive tbh

Ive used it exactly once

[tame lodge]

With the amount of Kriegers running around you'd think they'd have more helbys around

[fair shale]

Imma be real with you man

The krieg larpers are not normally doing much with that thing

Its always the people just passively using it without the cosmetics

[hasty grove]

I need Cadians

To join me in the trenches

[near shore]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/lFsdYsStPT6Cgze8p?invite=cr-MSxZb0EsNDY1MzcwOTI2&v=24 thoughts?

prob bring chain axe with it

[fresh thistle]

what other class has the helbore

[molten cedar]

My cousin really enjoys Krieg stuff but he still decided to play Psyker so hopefully a Krieg Psyker is a possibility

[tame lodge]

I need Canadians 🗣️

[fresh thistle]

Because “was” implies that it’s past tense therefore some other class has the helbore as well

[fair shale]

None, I just forgot it was vet exclusive

[fresh thistle]

It Is*

[fair shale]

They have i think 3 seperate krieg outfits for all classes cept arb and scum

[fair shale]

Wah wah wah

I like to be technically correct on the internet

[silver patrol]

was is also right

it is, and also was

[tall torrent]

vig7's issue is that it needs really dedicated ranged dps spec to hit 1 taps

vig3 is the best one because it needs the least

[fair shale]

probably will be too

[tall torrent]

it's in the shop rn

[silver patrol]

it will be added to the hivescum actually

[fair shale]

lmfao

[near shore]

was i not hitting the crisp 1 taps? u may be right, but i prefer single shot over burst

[fair shale]

rampage helbore melee only

[tall torrent]

yea u had stance + MF for it

[molten cedar]

He just started, and he caved and bought it lol

[near shore]

bet, watch this

[fair shale]

It rotates around exceptionally rarely so

[tall torrent]

vig7's issue is not having enough dmg on its own to do it without as much spec

[fair shale]

Probably good if he really likes it

[tall torrent]

and this exacerbates into havoc

[fresh thistle]

What I’m in one of those correcting moods

[near shore]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/lFsw37e2fPuTGBhrL?invite=cr-MSxjNVksNDY1MzcwOTI2&v=22

if this still isnt good, i 100 remove MF

[tall torrent]

I think a more proper test is just having stance

MF's issue is opportunity cost

[near shore]

maybe, but ignorning nodes to raise ur postion osnt really valid

oppurtunity exist alot in auric and above

[tall torrent]

it's not ignoring nodes when MF is 4 points extra from vet's core talent spec

[near shore]

and?

[tall torrent]

it's a lot?

[near shore]

were not .1% of players

it shouldnt matter that much

if u only play to min/max all points must be 100 optimal

well,,,thats boring

i on the other hand, happilt take mid tier items and do well

[tall torrent]

ok nvm I just checked

u can hit flamer/gunner 1 taps with vig7 with just stance on auric

[narrow widget]

u need to have some control for other variables in testing to get the most accurate numbers tho

[fresh thistle]

This is my personal opinion but I reckon veteran needs to be able to tinker with his guns using like a workbench or something

[narrow widget]

unless that isnt what ur talking about

[tall torrent]

u don't actually need MF for this gun's auric 1 taps lol

[fresh thistle]

Ya know how the hive scum has the stimm lab

Well I reckon veteran needs like a work bench of sorts

[narrow widget]

weapon customization mod

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[near shore]

here, lemme post this

[fresh thistle]

No no no not that I mean like being able to change internal parts

[near shore]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/lFsFAFh9M-iXHjhzN?invite=cr-MSxrVncsNDY1MzcwOTI2&v=29

no MF

no stance

1 taps

[fresh thistle]

Like increasing the ROF for something like the las gun

[near shore]

scrap rounds? maybe messing with lazgun batterys and ammo types?

[fresh thistle]

Yes exactly

[tall torrent]

whats ur full tree

I don't get why killzone

[near shore]

brother....does the weapon need to be at minus damage??

its not the plasma lmao

ive gotten rid of everything u saif

[tall torrent]

I think ur misunderstanding smth

I originally said this gun's issue is not being good at 1 taps without additional spec

then I went and checked it again and found that it could hit auric 1 taps just fine with just stance

[fresh thistle]

I mean think about it technically veteran is no longer part of the guard so there might be allot of leeway for internal gun modifications

Or switching out the ammo or something

[tall torrent]

so it doesn't actually need as much spec as I thought for auric

as for why ur showing me a clip with killzone I kinda don't get it

[near shore]

because

free dmg?

just like longshot

do u just want to invest absoutely nothing for ur wepaon or dmg?

[tall torrent]

what does ur full tree look like I'm curious

[near shore]

want it current that appeases ur demands, or what id actually run?

ill show u current

[tall torrent]

no I just wanted to see it

[near shore]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/lFsNBYv5d6iyVAfco?invite=cr-MSw5cUQsNDY1MzcwOTI2&v=9

[narrow widget]

does that not just validate his argument that vig 7 needs extra point investment to be good?

[tall torrent]

um

[near shore]

not really....u can see it one tapping

[tall torrent]

ur tree kinda doesn't fit what ur saying

[near shore]

u cant expect to not take weakspot dmg

how about i just clear

who needs skills anyway

if a weapon cant do everything all the time by itself its just bad

[tall torrent]

no srsly ur tree is missing like 70% free dmg

[near shore]

no fucking shit

like u asked

[tall torrent]

are u like purposefully trying to misinterpret what I'm saying lol

[near shore]

i kept dropping the dmg lower n lower

[tall torrent]

I originally said this gun's issue is not being good at 1 taps without additional spec
then I went and checked it again and found that it could hit auric 1 taps just fine with just stance
so it doesn't actually need as much spec as I thought for auric

what actually are u mad abt rn I'm confused lol

[near shore]

who said anything about being mad

[hybrid plover]

It needs it for Havoc though.

Different breakpoints and all

[near shore]

depends, am i allowed to have dmg nodes?

[hybrid plover]

But that's not saying much rlly

[near shore]

i refuse to plasma afterall

[tall torrent]

yea u shud but ur tree is missing a lot of it

[near shore]

i. fucking. know

[hybrid plover]

I mean, admittedly the tree could do with some touching up

[near shore]

which is why i asked which tree u wanted to see

i know

i know

its not my actual bulid ffs

its getting rid of points to show bath earlier that i can one tap

they asked for no MF and other things to check

what u see, is that bulid and show

let me re make it, and ill show my actual bulid

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/lFsUZxSIhcsYZckbM?invite=cr-MSxMZTUsNDY1MzcwOTI2&v=22

[tall torrent]

um

u kinda still are missing a lot of dmg with this tho

[near shore]

itll be ok

i know it goes iver peoples heads

but damage isnt everything

i could not give a fuck if a boss dies 5 secinds faster

or slower

my job, is anti-special. im to drop it before it can attack or get close

this, is gonna 1 tap them for anywhere

my hive scum bulid would probably have most of you fucking foaming from confusion

[tall torrent]

yea prob

[near shore]

it does something, and let me know if the word scares you....team suppourt

gasp

shock

[tall torrent]

it's alr

[near shore]

omg whats that?! i know, it isnt dps so its prob the worse thing ever

[tall torrent]

I wish the chemist branch wasn't rushed to be dysfunctional

[near shore]

thats fair

i take advantage in a weird way

people "huh?? noooo tox can only be dps!!"

u see...the crowbar doesnt oneshot...i take advantage of that

[compact wing]

what the fuck am I reading

[tame lodge]

Idk

[hollow ibex]

🤷‍♂️

[tame lodge]

Tox Adms are really fuckin high so they are dps

[near shore]

hey look, ur the person above i was quotating

oh no

it can onlyyyyyyy be dps

lets ignore those bonuses....cough

[tame lodge]

Yeah

It all adds to dps

[near shore]

u wouldnt understand

so

no point

[tame lodge]

So yeah

Dps

[near shore]

its not dps, so its prob wrong in ur eyes

simple minded

[tame lodge]

Uh no
In my eyes it's dps
So I'm right

Which means

There's no point in arguing with me

Save your time

[near shore]

ok

well remain in ur safe and easy to understand box

[tame lodge]

I'm outside of it

[near shore]

lieing is bad yk

[tame lodge]

Why is rogue trader so slow to load

Are my mods outdated

[near shore]

one day

ill find someone who isnt brain numbing

i have faith

[tame lodge]

Why's Nexus mods all filled with dogshit ai portraits

[near shore]

idk, i dont mod darktidwe

people using spidey mod are pussies

[tame lodge]

Oh this isn't darktide

Smh

[near shore]

oh

rogue trader

ya idk

not my style of game, im too adhd for it

[tame lodge]

A playthrough is roughly 80 hours
You'll be fine

[near shore]

ive looked into it

for sure, looks like a great game

i just dont think id enjoy the turn based slower combat i saw

[tame lodge]

Oh it loaded now

So it was my outdated mod

[near shore]

neat

[patent prairie]

Running a Helbore marksmen but I’m tired of relying on headshots 24/7
anyone know a build that can one shot basic things in the body and such? Like Gunners and such

I average Hersy game mode

And should I switch from no aim assist to light?

[blazing horizon]

Guys is there any diff between all of those other than the stats ? like sheathed bullet is it any diff from scrap of scripture other than the stats ?

another question does the gear power of those items matter ?

[hollow ibex]

The gear power only matters for stamina curios

A +3 Stam curio that is 400 power is fake

You need 410 or higher

Otherwise you can just look at the blessing

[blazing horizon]

fake ? don't get it

[hollow ibex]

It only gives two stamina

Instead of three

[blazing horizon]

so 410 will give me stamina ?

[topaz lance]

what the fuck

[hollow ibex]

3 stamina

If that's what it says

[blazing horizon]

Those for the dodge not the one for the sprint right ?

[hollow ibex]

Stamina is used for sprinting blocking pushing etc

Dodge does not use stamina but will delay regen

[blazing horizon]

Okay so doesn't matter the name of those items at all just the gear power and stats ?

[hollow ibex]

Yeah name doesn't matter

[blazing horizon]

Perfect thank you
I was confused tbh how all that

[blazing horizon]

I think I will look for toughness + dmg resist against gunners + more toughness + corruption resist what do you think about that ? for the vet ofc

[hollow ibex]

Yeah that's generally good though corrupt resist isn't amazimg

I usually do gunner toughness Stam regen and cooldown

[blazing horizon]

hmmm good choices guess I might do the cooldown one

[hollow ibex]

Wouldn't say it's a must have

Its just ok

If you play exec stance a lot for example, it's nearly useless there

[blazing horizon]

I will do some test here and there and find what fits more for my vet

oh and btw

what's the best way to get those items with gear power 410 ? all I find is 390 at that guy "Sire melk"

or just get lucky from missions ?

[uncut ore]

guh?!?!

[hollow ibex]

From shop or melks yeah

[fading yarrow]

Absolute shenanigans afoot tonight

I keep needing to double tap VoC to make it work

I also got 100-0ed by a single shot after my Toughness was broken by ranged fire

Also funny thing about the No Man's Land penance description:

"Complete the following 'The Road to No Man's Land' campaign missions on Auric Threat or higher."

What's higher than Auric??

[surreal rune]

auric maelstrom

havocs

[fresh thistle]

Hey what’s with all the hate for the falchion

I kinda like it

[surreal rune]

its hated for feeling mediocre by many

its just fine imo but its an all rounder which feels underperforming in aspects

[fresh thistle]

🤨 that’s what an all rounder is jack of all trades master of none

[surreal rune]

when you compare it to outliers in power

such as the normal power sword and dueling sword

it can seem underperforming

actually, the power sword is really powerful to offset how clunky it is

[tame lodge]

Except the actual all arounder is Rashad Axe

And Midchion doesn't even hold a light to it

[fresh thistle]

Requires combos no?

[surreal rune]

no

rashad is light spam for hordes and light elite

heavy spam for crushers and maulers

[tame lodge]

Hahahahah

Light attack for everything that isn't carapace or unyielding

Then the every now and then push attack that can stagger 3 Ragers out of their combos

While also having the same dodge profile as falchion

[surreal rune]

in its reception, many thought it would simply be the power sword but have the relic blade's power mechanic

[fresh thistle]

But is the Rashad tac axe meta?

[surreal rune]

but it feels like a relic blade on vet but weaker

[fresh thistle]

If it’s meta that’s what will kill it for me the Rashad tac axe

[surreal rune]

oh

the rashad is a combat axe

[fresh thistle]

My bad

All the axes seem the same to me

[surreal rune]

i like the rashad on weapon specialist but it could go any way

the extra attack speed helps it a lot

[tame lodge]

Yes the Rashad is meta

Top 2 veteran melee

It's just that good

So the Midchion

Has overall mid stats

Really bad blessings pool

Dogshit unpowered

High cool down if you overheat

(Relic Blade cool down is 9 seconds, Midchion is 13)

Needs Rending Strikes 💀

[surreal rune]

rashad is in the top 5

ig the top 5 consists of

[fresh thistle]

And that’s what kills it for me if the Rashad wasn’t meta I’d happily use it

[surreal rune]

power sword
rashad
knife
dueling sword
tac axe

[fresh thistle]

No chainsword?

[surreal rune]

its unfortunately not so good imo

certainly decent

[surreal rune]

maybe you would like the tac axe?

[fresh thistle]

I do have decent blessings for my chainsword I like to think at least I do

Not at home rn so this is the best I can do

I’m also very proud of this chainsword because I got this before the rework to the blessing system

[stable socket]

I think a lot of people feeling the same way is why the rashad is meta

[sharp epoch]

idk why people limit themselves like that theres only a couple weapons that actually are viable and can deal with armor

[narrow widget]

like half of vets weapons are meta bro do you keep yourself from using helbore and bolter???

it's just a label saying that the weapon is good

who gives a shit

[fresh thistle]

Helbore yes but bolter oh boy if it goes boom I’m happy

[surreal rune]

ah i run my chainsword similarly with wrath, shred + flak, unyielding

[fading yarrow]

Dopamine

[candid lantern]

what veteran build would supply a hivescum type rounds per minute approach to horde clear? (i have hivescum i just prefer the veteran cosmetics so much more)

[ancient path]

when poxbursters are acting weird as fuck but i cant prove it

https://tenor.com/view/cantproveit-dexter-suspect-doakes-gif-16758707416248838252

[sharp epoch]

theyre perfectly normal 😤

[sullen scarab]

Vraks IAG doesn't need Rending Strikes, right?

[ancient path]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[short agate]

Vet gets the poxburster issue well youre there trying to shoot something and then boom 8 meatsplosions

[ancient path]

hivescum chat is a mess rn so ill just say this in here

but rampage heavysword got me like

[tepid otter]

Eyooo?

[ancient path]

finally someone to use heavy sword on

[tepid otter]

Lets not be hasty

[ancient path]

idk man it feels fuckin awesome to me

i dont play havoc so its probably worse there

[faint beacon]

Tbf Zealot and HS are like

the only two that make it feel good

Vet can, just-

you're forced into very specific ranged options

[ancient path]

i do love how steam recording just doesnt work

[leaden condor]

Smoke nades any good?

[tepid otter]

Goated in Havocs iirc

Its like a pseudo bubble if you dont have a psyker that has the dome

[leaden condor]

Water dont flow like that

[leaden condor]

I'm trying to make a build that uses the right side of the tree but idk what's good for it

[tepid otter]

For smoke nade?

[leaden condor]

For the right side of the skill tree

[tepid otter]

I use this as a basis, someone shared it here i think about a week ago

Shows some go to perks you'll want as a Vet

You can change your nades to whatever and the rest can be up to you

[leaden condor]

Sir this is the middle of the tree

[tepid otter]

It doesn't use all 30 points, you can fiddle with it all you want

[candid lantern]

how is recon laser now a days?

[leaden condor]

Mysteriously absent from the scum's repertoire

[hollow ibex]

Ok

Low skill floor

Low skill ceiling

[candid lantern]

oof okay. what weapon setup would yall reccomend to contribute well in auric and above

[hasty grove]

@lunar maple and I need two more children of Cadia to join us

[candid lantern]

i do not enjoy the plasma gun rn

[hasty grove]

I forget the plasma gun isn’t just a supercharged lasgun… and than I explode

[robust herald]

when is it not? that chat's kind of a cesspool LMAO

[ancient path]

i have no clue. i go in there to look at what ppl are doing with hivescum

and somehow [redacted] has returned

https://tenor.com/view/somehow-palpatine-returned-template-blank-no-text-star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-gif-381304416067850242

[robust herald]

I've been avoiding it since I got a full build made and I'm kinda tired of people trying to make me feel invalidated because I use that weapon instead of this one or this blessing instead of that one

it's uh

tiring

[ancient path]

just like #arbites-class

[robust herald]

and that's being nice

[ancient path]

yeah no i get it.

these kinds of games does breed a certain type of elitism

[robust herald]

which is weird

yk. the co-op game

elitism

it doesn't stack as easily as you think it would

[ancient path]

its the issue with everyone playing this game to carry and stare at scoreboard numbers lol

[lunar maple]

Where my cadians at?

[ancient path]

for cadia

[lunar maple]

Need 2 more Cadians for Cadian squad later

[ancient path]

oh no i play f!loose cannon

because i love gaelic accents

[robust herald]

I like how he says KARKIN'

[ancient path]

PUT THE KARKIN BOOT IN

[lunar maple]

lol

[fresh thistle]

funny enough the falchion is actually pretty decent

[leaden condor]

Who's redacted

[lunar maple]

Hey what’s good blessings and mods for braced autogun?

[ancient path]

oh thats [redacted]

[sonic kayak]

GET IN THERE, MAKE EM SCREAM

[hollow ibex]

Deathspitter fire fenzy

Prob flakiac though you can swap one for unyielding

[lunar maple]

Thanks homie

[fresh thistle]

what sort of screaming painful screams or the screams of pleassure

[sonic kayak]

Scream in pleasure from their screams of pain

[leaden condor]

Karker this, karker that

[robust herald]

vet leveling is

kinda cancerous

I can't lie

[mystic lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[twilit lotus]

How is Combat Shotgun in Auric? Is it still good?

Making the jump from Damnation soon

[tame lodge]

Combat Shotgun good

Except Accatran

But you know

Play what you want

🫡

[twilit lotus]

Ofc boss

Just wanna make sure my beloved is still up to standard at auric

[robust herald]

agripinaa combat shotgun

is my personal favorite

but yeah it's great

hipfire spam up close slugs from afar

[twilit lotus]

Been using this with full bore and no respite

It cooks

[teal canyon]

CS's are good at close-mid ranges and ok at far ranges since snipers still die from stray shots. Reload kinda slow though

[fair shale]

Slug is however one of the best sniping tools in the game ime if you're using Agri

[teal canyon]

Slug thrower is good. Can kill armor, can headshot good. Best one imo

[fair shale]

Agreed

[fresh thistle]

ok whats the blessings needed for the combat axe rashad

decided to give it a go much to my hatred of meta

[livid sphinx]

God damn it. I'm trying to farm auric storm survivor but every game I join is already going on

[fair shale]

Brutal Momentum, Headtaker

Rashad

Just keep swinging

[fresh thistle]

could do with abit more cleave it could

[livid sphinx]

I just played with Voice + DS + Plasma again just to get auric storm survivor and I have to say... it was such a snoozefest

[fair shale]

Yeah, those pair real nice on it. Then you just m1 through crowds like a lawnmower.

[hollow ibex]

Make sure you got the scab bruiser one shot light breakpoint

[tribal tinsel]

good setup 4 chainsword?

[hollow ibex]

You'll need unarmored as a perk

[hollow ibex]

Prob krak and weapon specialist

With trench fighter and serrated blade

[fresh thistle]

remind me which cock sucker is that

[proud jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-silverhand-darktide-warhammer-palm-gif-11353758965827155043

[hollow ibex]

Uh dude with a club

No head armor

Dreg bruisers have the bucket helm

[tame lodge]

Billy Bulky and Bucket Head

[fresh thistle]

they all look the same after a while

[median stream]

Is there a nice build with spearhead bolt gun ?

[narrow widget]

like all of them

bolter is good with most things

run exe stance if you want to blow up bosses
shout for general utility

[tame lodge]

Scab Bruiser (Billy Bulky)

Dreg Bruiser (Bucket Head)

[mystic lodge]

Drab Bruiser: Flak Armor from head to toe

Sceg Bruiser: No armor at all. Just a dude

[livid sphinx]

Okay fr how do you get auric storm survivor with vet

[mystic lodge]

The same as with any other class

[burnt pelican]

Get a duo

[slender elm]

Is chain axe a more boss focused chainsword

[burnt pelican]

If u wanna cheese it get a smite psyker

Trivialises most maelstroms

Otherwise mine arbi and taunt ogryn are good

[tame lodge]

Actually Flak and Carapace focused Chainsword

[slender elm]

Uh huh

[tame lodge]

"It's the thunder hammer of flak and carapace"

[slender elm]

Is sword bad vs armor

[mystic lodge]

Not DS

[tame lodge]

What sword 😭

[livid sphinx]

Man I actually thought they would never nerf the shout so I didnt do auric storm survivor asap

Big regrets

[livid sphinx]

Too bad i'm in asia so no bueno. Language barrier is really bad here

[hollow ibex]

Just do it now. It'll take them months before there's another major patch

[livid sphinx]

Yeah maybe i'll just grind that instead of havoc

[burnt pelican]

U mean the 15 to 10 sec nerf?

[livid sphinx]

yeah

its pretty big

[burnt pelican]

Its pretty bad yeah

[tame lodge]

10 still too much 🗣️

[burnt pelican]

On vet that 50 overtoughness is 200 with his talent

So losing it js pretty big

I did mine with inflitrate combat knife vet full revive curios and talent

Got it first try

[slender elm]

Chainsword obv

[burnt pelican]

Just keep ur team alive and if they are about to wipe go mass revive them where they respawn

2 8 sec stealth are enough to reach respawn point and mass revive with full rev speed

U usually get 2 ppl up with 1 stealth with how fast ur reviving them lmao

[livid sphinx]

Damn it. I never thought I would ever play full support with vet

But alright for the auric storm survivor

[narrow widget]

shout is still strong tbf

[burnt pelican]

It is

[slender elm]

Im asking about chain weps

[slender elm]

Like is it worth to run heavy bleed vs elite/bosses

[austere mica]

No

Bloodletter isn't good