Yea
#veteran-class
narrow widget
not sure abt that tbh
not sure abt that tbh
tall torrent
z is more atk speed
mystic lodge
https://youtu.be/rJQWQJKVrmM?si=9Q34yIS8QAjUJv4L
Youtube recommendation jinxed it again (I know they're listening)
narrow widget
z is more atk speed
yea can we get swift slaying back please fart shark
tall torrent
I don't think it's straightforwardly "melee scales better on z than vet"
cuz vet just hits harder
mystic lodge
Vet didnt become a Vet by being a lightweight 
He the Boss. Ogryn said so
Noone argues with Ogryn
mystic lodge
"The killing never ends"-Sun Tzu
tame lodge
"Let's get to the killing" - Cadian PTSD simulator
Close
Kill
And do it again
Up and at em 🗣️
Oh and of course
I want these Karkers dead
pearl oasis
What is plasma gun dump stat?
tall torrent
What is plasma gun dump stat?
pearl oasis
Finally got Adept Assassin done
Now I just need the rest of the Krak Grenade Kills and that is all of the ability Penances done for Vet
and then it is just doing missions to 100
dapper vessel
kroog
mystic lodge
Can someone gimme a rundown on the Heavy Swords (What mk is the best, what perks/blessings/talents to use)? I wanna try it in my build now
calm shard
heavy sword is very unreliant on talents
all the things it wants to kill it just does with the usual general purpose damage talents
blessings are obvious with headtaker+deathblow
imo hsword is best used as a sidearm to super gun heavy builds
with bolter/helbore
bold sierra
with bolter/helbore
yeah, that's mostly for non anti-armor melees, which is good.
mystic lodge
imo hsword is best used as a sidearm to super gun heavy builds
My build is gun heavy alright, but with IAG and Kraks
bold sierra
tho i'll say, even dclaw and heavy sword deal pretty DECENT dmg to Crushers with overheads and stuff
bold sierra
My build is gun heavy alright, but with IAG and Kraks
honestly kraks is all you need
for armor
calm shard
tho i'll say, even dclaw and heavy sword deal pretty DECENT dmg to Crushers with...
dclaw yes with parries hsword absolutely not even a little bit
dclaw can kill a handful of crushers if pressed
hsword cannot kill any
difference in dps with dclaw not parrying
dclaw kills them very quickly with parries in the equation
hang on I had a clip of a h40 crusher I posted here earlier
of course if you're having to melee a crusher while using kraks/helbore/bolter/whatever you've already fucked up somehow so
kinda moot point
bold sierra
dclaw yes with parries hsword absolutely not even a little bit
I know about parry from dclaw, but normal heavy overheads from dclaw dealing roughly 1000-1200(with focus target and some right keystone path talents)-ish dmg on crit isn't SUPER bad, but ofc not reliable way to kill crushers obviously, a few bolter shots or krak is way faster no doubt. I'm just saying at least it's not NOTHING lol
same with heavy sword, but tbh it's worse than dclaw at that xD, cuz less crits and no parry
AGAIN, just clarifying i'm not considering dclaw and hsword as crusher-killers. Really aint their job anyway
calm shard
even if you aren't using a gun that has good carapace just kill them anyways xd
you're veteran what is armor anywys
willow prairie
same with heavy sword, but tbh it's worse than dclaw at that xD, cuz less crits ...
both dclaw and heavy sword suck shit against carapace
but at least heavy sword 1-2 shot everything that isn't carapace
while dclaw struggle against a lot of thing
mossy monolith
whats a good power falc mark and whats the dif
calm shard
while dclaw struggle against a lot of thing
like what
what specifically other than crushers
because dclaw is uniquely advantaged against a lot of things too
not just compared to the "can't kill carapace" trifecta
willow prairie
the most notable one is flak lmao
also can't clear horde for shit in reasonable time
parry isn't that good either
not even mentioning that it buggy as fuck
calm shard
the flak thing is most certainly wrong for Mk VII dclaw tho
push attack+light
it sucks against crushers and that's about it tbh
willow prairie
or you can do like 2 other attack on anything else and hit more than 1 enemy or just kill
willow prairie
why zero buff?
calm shard
if I wanted to test buffs the dclaw would one shot with skirmisher
like every other weapon with a strikedown does into flak
y'know
also I know the healthbar says 1700 but it's a h40 gunner
2312
willow prairie
what the mod for havoc modifier in psykarium again
calm shard
just solo play and loading into psykhanium
dclaw being bad into flak doesn't really apply to Mk VII
where the dclaw does truly suck abominable ass and you can't do something about it is boss damage
good fucking lord these things suck ass at killing bosses
carapace it depends on heavily on how practical parrying is in the moment because it can kill a crusher/mauler really fast
if it's practical to parry them in the moment
willow prairie
I still think it suck against horde because while it have good cleave + wrath you have to do light which does fuck all for damage
mk1 doesn't have this problem but it also doesn't have easy way to switch to strikedown in middle of combo
calm shard
mk1 is also objectively the worst
because its parry is worse than the other 2 for no reason xd
Mk VII also has a horde clear heavy
I just don't really think it's worth doing because lights are so much faster
willow prairie
yeah but light does no damage that my problem
can't kill things fast enough is bad
calm shard
it does no damage to flak specifically
calm shard
it does adequate damage considering its attack speed into other health types
but the flak on these sweepy lights is eugh
yucky
willow prairie
it does *adequate* damage considering its attack speed into other health types
or i can do 1 heavy sword cleave heavy and kill all of them in 1 hit lol
willow prairie
I mean you're on vet you can use helbore
parry is good against rager but hs kill them fast enough I don't really miss it that much
calm shard
I miss it a lot when there's more than like 4 ragers
willow prairie
bruh my ass dced twice from psykerium
calm shard
that special can stagger them but it is slooooow
willow prairie
special is meh
calm shard
dclaw solution to ragers is honest to god the easiest in the game
oh no a rager! press special rager's dead
get on with your life
kinda works into bulwarks too if you can get one of those fucking assholes to actually do an attack
thorn lark
where the dclaw does truly suck abominable ass and you *can't* do something abou...
I've been mogging ogryns and spawns for ages tho
calm shard
yeah it's super easy to do into them it's just not...fast
it does kill melee twin very fast which is funny
calm shard
just dump penetration it's not like it does armor damage anyways ;)
thorn lark
I dump cleave targets
bold sierra
good fucking lord these things suck ass at killing bosses
Well against bosses you just parry tbh, dclaw can face tank boss attacks with ease and the parry counter hit actually deals pretty damn decent dmg against them. Ofc it’s most great against captains and LTs and plague Ogryn, good against Chaos spawn too if you can dodge the grabbing
willow prairie
it doesnt work well in havoc due to 20 other things
"face tanking" isnt enough
you need the mf dead
bold sierra
you need the mf dead
If I got my pc now I can show you the parry counter does really good dmg against them, it really isn’t just for face tanking
And tbh serrated blade usually does a lot of the heavy lifting
calm shard
Well against bosses you just parry tbh, dclaw can face tank boss attacks with ea...
decent damage is pushing it
ocean idol
main benefit of dclaw is immortality
you can just keep boss on you while the rest of the team deals with elites and horde
bold sierra
decent damage is pushing it
It’s not beating chain weapons and power swords in terms of raw dps no, but for what it is and being able to face tank their attacks, it’s decent.
It’s reliant on enemy hitting you and parrying so yes
willow prairie
tldr only decent against chaos spawn + sword cap
calm shard
yeah
willow prairie
the problem is you have no autonomy over your own damage output
calm shard
decent agains chaos spawn because it's one of few weapons that does not need to be in ideal circumstances to avoid being fucked over by them
bold sierra
tldr only decent against chaos spawn + sword cap
Plague ogryn too, at least that fucker doesn’t have any disabling attack, aside from the stomp but that’s not bad
calm shard
plague ogryn swings waaaay too slow for the damage to be notable
bold sierra
I mean I hear that but it’s still sth.
willow prairie
plague ogryn attack way slower
- you can just use movement
all of his attack are easy to dodge except the charge
also maybe the stomp but that probably because i cant figure out mfs hitboxes
bold sierra
Either way, just apply bleeds with serrated blade is decent enough.
That goes for everything
mystic lodge
good fucking lord these things suck ass at killing bosses
Dclaw neg-diffs Rinda Karnak tho
midnight wyvern
gritty delta
also maybe the stomp but that probably because i cant figure out mfs hitboxes
Well, plus it has a janky timing. Harder to counter stomp in a horde situation.
frigid egret
hi, is "the bigger they are" ability in addition to the default executioner stance or does it replace highlighting human sized elite & specialist enemies
stable socket
they're all additive to base exec highlighting, i'm 99% sure you'll never "lose" highlights by taking more nodes
frigid egret
thx
dry cloak
i keep seeing plasma and dueling sword with voc
Those are pusies
Play with what you like
feral bay
Skill issue
dapper coyote
Skill issue
Dawg, they always grab every ammo
Its like they remember every spawn point of ammo cans
feral bay
Yes, I'm saying the plasma gunner vets have a skill issue
Use a lasgun or autogun like a proper soldier
dapper coyote
Use a lasgun or autogun like a proper soldier
Or WS DB / Revolver
tame lodge
what's considered "meta" for vet rn
Melee wise
Power Sword 6 24/7/365
Ranged wise there's a good amount
calm shard
i keep seeing plasma and dueling sword with voc
this was old pre-rework meta post rework I don't think I'd reasonably place dueling sword in top 5 for vet
there's just so many better more versatile options
plasma also "suffers" the kinda same issue but I think it's still quite good
just fuckin' boring so I ain't using it any time soon personally
dapper coyote
mostly just iag, helbore plasma
WS opens revolvers and DBs
Don't forget about Cshotguns too.
Bistols for nade memes
fair shale
I love the combat shotgun on vet tbh
willow prairie
I wouldn't use db or revolver in havoc
cs is good though
but i wouldn't say "meta"
fair shale
CS+PS my goat rn
willow prairie
this was old pre-rework meta post rework I don't think I'd reasonably place duel...
pre rework psword still no diff ds lol
dapper coyote
I am currently using WS revolver
For havoc runs
Surprisingly, it works as anti specialists
Zarona's or Agrippina's revolvers
And can be use as anti bosses / crushers in a crutch
Im still shit on melee so im taking anything that i can comfortably spam lights with no brain and not DS
calm shard
I wouldn't use db or revolver in havoc
double barrel is my go to "I need to carry these idiots" gun on vet xd
dapper coyote
double barrel is my go to "I need to carry these idiots" gun on vet xd
Same
willow prairie
the lack of range and damage is real
calm shard
doesn't even need to be accurate because flechette bleed and min pellet count
dapper coyote
I sniped some fuck ass sniper 30 meters away with DB
willow prairie
mpc doesn't help with db much anyway because you gonna hit body shot with db
it's not like cs or exe shotgun
calm shard
horde clear so comically strong that it can literally drown out inferno psykers 💀
straight up if you are playing too good with double barrel you will fuck over your local inferno psyker
dapper coyote
HAHAHAHAHAHA
True
calm shard
because you'll kill the horde too fast and they won't be able to snowball soulblaze to contribute
fair shale
Good, they deserve it
dapper coyote
Lmaoooooo
willow prairie
that an overexaggeration but yes infinite cleave
willow prairie
the inferno psyker have to be fucking disabled to get outdamaged
calm shard
you can get 3 kills with a single swing of most of vet's good melees
dapper coyote
Chaff be gone
calm shard
or stragglers survive the initial crit damage of the shotgun shot
and die to bleed when you swap back to your melee
which also counts
so you just shoot again
infinite cleave every time that one shots every enemy it touches
dapper coyote
And if you have the on your toes perk in WS, you can straight up have a comically large regen
calm shard
or well every non-elite enemy, usually takes 2 for elites
dapper coyote
20% every 3 seconds on a very easy to perc keystone
Kill someone and then switch?
Boom, 20%
I did an entire match, putting a trial on modified Cole's build, i ended the game without using a single med station
Heal? Nah thx fam, im build incorrect
sharp epoch
havic no work me sad
sharp epoch
horde clear so comically strong that it can literally drown out inferno psykers ...
inferno is still way better it actually can kill mixed armor horde while db does nothing to them
calm shard
the only enemy in a mixed horde db does nothing to is bulwarks
because shield
very sad
it's not great damage without uncanny into crushers either
maulers/scab ragers just die but that's not really special
regal yarrow
crude widget
I think I’m just ass but
The lasgun with the charge-up + bayonet
that gun feels so damn slow to kill specials
I rather use the tap fire lasgun
I also have a power sword now, thanks to the guy that suggested me to grind this
willow prairie
what is bro running
wind gyro
hellbore?
wind gyro
naw was questioning the gun itself so broski could learn the name. ik if you spec a build right it handles hella good. 
hollow ibex
that gun feels so damn slow to kill specials
Run weight of fire and/or use partial charges on mk4
tame lodge
that gun feels so damn slow to kill specials
Use mkv
calm shard
that gun feels so damn slow to kill specials
https://imgur.com/a/YzYeU9s pre-class rework but still
willow prairie
darktide progression continue to be ass
crude widget
https://imgur.com/a/YzYeU9s pre-class rework but still
okay this is wayyyy better than what I have, I’m like veteran 11 dawgs 💀
willow prairie
like most weapons in this game lmao
crude widget
Thanks fellas I will take note
calm shard
It is probably the weapon that gets the absolute most return out of building for it on your talent tree though
crude widget
like most weapons in this game lmao
Power sword feels fine tho, like I’m bare naked btw I haven’t touch any fancy smancy upgrades yet
hollow ibex
okay this is wayyyy better than what I have, I’m like veteran 11 dawgs 💀
Yeah don’t judge any of the weapons until you have good rolls 
crude widget
nah wth???
okay man 😭
I really need to level up fast
That red stim thingy boosts damage?
still dove
https://imgur.com/a/xdnQg7X
i need your build in this
calm shard
That red stim thingy boosts damage?
yeah
calm shard
i need your build in this
I know I don't run it in normal matches the way that I did in this clip so it's gonna be a bit from memory
still dove
ooh ok, whats's your main build?
calm shard
the build in the clip is prob something like this
calm shard
but this is how I normally play helbore for havocs
hollow ibex
you think i should use power sword or dueling sword
DS is overrated af on vet
calm shard
flex points you can drop depending on weapon/preference are Born Leader, The Bigger They Are, Serrated Blade, and Trench Fighter Drill
Tinker for kraks is also unnecessary outside of Havoc
still dove
thanks
willow prairie
DS is overrated af on vet
I don't think dsword was ever that good tbh
still dove
@calm shard which mark do you use for helbore?
calm shard
I like Mk IV because one shotting crushers is Neat
willow prairie
dsword compliment psyker well and both vet and zealot have better option
calm shard
psyker also has better option
still dove
I like Mk IV because one shotting crushers is ***Neat***
ty thats what i have rn
calm shard
force swords xd
willow prairie
mfs using force sword on staves
crude widget
veteran using duelling sword feels weird, I rather have smtg that cleaves not poke poke
willow prairie
deflector is mid!
calm shard
push attack is a guaranteed headshot
still dove
idk what melee to use besides ds and ps
willow prairie
I mean dsword also have uncunny
calm shard
veteran has quite a bit of variety
crude widget
idk what melee to use besides ds and ps
I like the axe
calm shard
I would say that like top 3 would be Power Sword, Combat Axe, and Tactical Axe
wind gyro
veteran using duelling sword feels weird, I rather have smtg that cleaves not po...
it may feel weird but stabbing bosses to death in like, 4 hits is satisfying asf 
still dove
hmm i'll try power sword first, gotta level it up
crude widget
push attack is a guaranteed headshot
wdym by that?
calm shard
But I think Vet's kit puts them in the uniquely privileged position of being able to make any melee work
Just because the melees that are bad because they can't kill carapace for shit
Veteran just throws a krak grenade at the guy, or unceremoniously one shots them with helbore
crude widget
it may feel weird but stabbing bosses to death in like, 4 hits is satisfying asf...
Can’t relate I’m too green, I’m a newbie lol
willow prairie
ill put caxe over taxe in ws build
still dove
Veteran just throws a krak grenade at the guy, or unceremoniously one shots them...
true
viscid sparrow
Veteran just throws a krak grenade at the guy, or unceremoniously one shots them...
or just spams heavies and lets serrated blade get the kill...
calm shard
It's why I've been gaslighting myself into thinking the devil claw swords are kinda good lately
wind gyro
Can’t relate I’m too green, I’m a newbie lol
ive logged 140ish hours and im still a newbie dude, dw lmao 
calm shard
I've been playing veteran so I don't have to interact with their primary crippling downside
crude widget
ive logged 140ish hours and im still a newbie dude, dw lmao <:Sitgryn:1016269420...
damn bro, I played like 2 hours today
still dove
i have 200 hours and i still consider myself new lmao
crude widget
calm shard
low cleave in havoc though
decimator gaming
still dove
i went from 105 to 200 hours in 2 weeks
willow prairie
decimator gaming
still low
tame lodge
It's why I've been gaslighting myself into thinking the devil claw swords are ki...
Gaslight harder 🗣️
still dove
only thing i hate about the power sword is that you have to constantly activate the special
calm shard
Oh I actually used shmaul for a few hav 40 runs a few days ago
willow prairie
It's good but not on vet and not in havoc
crude widget
i went from 105 to 200 hours in 2 weeks
Okay this is crazy, for context I played like 1 year on DRG, and clocked around 500 hours
calm shard
Did better than I thought it would
wind gyro
i went from 105 to 200 hours in 2 weeks
dedication my guy. ive owned dt for like 2 years
and clocked less
calm shard
It's a shockingly good utility weapon if you are not the main melee player on the team
willow prairie
I'm just saying i wouldn't use it on vet
calm shard
Since it rips through captain shields and can stun bulwarks
still dove
dedication my guy. ive owned dt for like 2 years
its the only game i play though idk if that makes it better
calm shard
And hey weird coincidence veteran is not usually the main melee player on the team
still dove
i got darktide in like march
wind gyro
thats pretty valid
crude widget
its the only game i play though idk if that makes it better
Ah that makes sense now
willow prairie
it pretty good on arby since forced skullcrusher proc with forceful on tanky mfs
still dove
yea ever since i got darktide i lost interest in other games
willow prairie
And hey weird coincidence veteran is not usually the main melee player on the te...
psword moment
calm shard
psword moment
still dove
i tried to get into vt2 when it was free but its lowkey eh
crude widget
I got VT2 first before DT, I prefer DT I’m just too ass on VT2, skill gap is crazy big
willow prairie
hey it isn't psword fault for being able to cleave more than 5 enemy in h40
still dove
yea vt2 is way more punishing
crude widget
But hey, free is free
still dove
i do like warhammer fantasy though
calm shard
yea vt2 is way more punishing
the humble 120 damage slave rat
narrow frost
yeah Vt is alot harder
still dove
the humble 120 damage slave rat
lmfao ts crazy bro
crude widget
Holy hell the rattling gunners suck
still dove
the rat that hops on you and stabs you is hell
crude widget
no chance of escaping I just get mowed to death instantly
narrow frost
Gutterrunner
wind gyro
christ last i played vt2 was oct 2024 maybe i should redownload it
willow prairie
gutterrunner just pounce you right away instead of having to charge up
crude widget
the rat that hops on you and stabs you is hell
I listen to the sound and spam my dwarf hammer, PTSD reflexes never fail
willow prairie
plus they don't really have audio cue on pounce
narrow frost
wind gyro
engineer bardn go brrrrtttttttttt
wind gyro
gang that snipe was crazy
still dove
u prefer bounty hunter over WHC?
crude widget
Sniped it’s ass to oblivion
calm shard
I stopped having fun with WHC because they took the glass out of the glass cannon xd
narrow frost
u prefer bounty hunter over WHC?
I play all
calm shard
went to playing huntsman and BH
which ironically perfectly mirrors my exact state in darktide!
narrow frost
~200 levels on all but elf, elf at 500
still dove
so far i like warrior preist and WHC
calm shard
Weird!
wind gyro
oh lawd the suns up. goodbye rejects!
crude widget
Maybe I’m tripping, I saw Victor from VT2 on the hub area of DT
calm shard
Used to main psyker, update makes them no longer glass and just cannon so I stop having as much fun on them
And now I'm playing WS and Exe vet
the spiritual successors to huntsman and bounty hunter
willow prairie
engineer bardin is literally baby mode
narrow frost
Maybe I’m tripping, I saw Victor from VT2 on the hub area of DT
some cosmectis were given to players that have VT2
iirc
willow prairie
fucking troll hammer
narrow frost
like face shapes and hair
still dove
i main psyker
wind gyro
also, when plasma pistol gang cuz i needs me one
willow prairie
rumbler prequel
tame lodge
IB Bardin is the only Bardin
narrow frost
Tollhammer doesnt compare to rumbler
tame lodge
narrow frost
well
tame lodge
Maybe Slayer too
narrow frost
unsure
crude widget
some cosmectis were given to players that have VT2
Oh I see, lmao I was so confused, Easter egg? SLAY THE HERETICS VICTOR
willow prairie
trollhammer just delete patrol lol
narrow frost
yeah
narrow frost
outcast with 11 teammate killing bombs
calm shard
trollhammer just delete patrol lol
I would do this with a blue potion and a dream on WHC
willow prairie
yeah but oe can do it without getting into melee range
i tend to run handgun nowaday because armored elite
still dove
surgical and WOF best for helbore?
silver patrol
ye
still dove
is serrated blade needed if your running power sword
willow prairie
little extra damage against boss but i don't think it worth it since psword kill everything else in 1-2 hit anyway
calm shard
use it with sunder to help your local ogryns/zealots
still dove
thx
crisp oak
outcast with 11 teammate killing bombs
"DWARF HUNTING" fixes that
ocean idol
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1312197970263015446/1337541477475025050/C...
this pov nauseating
why you people sacrifice so much visuals for just slightly more efficient view
ocean idol
silver patrol
I dont sacrifice much
do you also play at 15 fps or did you compress the video
narrow frost
I play at 120
it was a bad recording
I was trying the discord clipping
its not the best
silver patrol
understandable
silver patrol
win11 also has an integrated recording system too with gamebar
tame lodge
Is that the new map
narrow frost
yes
formal ice
narrow frost
flying bombers
tame lodge
Those rats trippin'
hot halo
What are some good blessings for the combat knife ?
hybrid plover
What are some good blessings for the combat knife ?
Uncanny Strike + Riposte, Precog, Flesh Tearer (especially if running Serrated), Executor
hybrid plover
If you take something like Rending Strikes or even Onslaught, you may be able to forgo Uncanny but Uncanny gets the best results without a doubt against armor
hot halo
Ok I’ll give those a shot 👍
hybrid plover
Personally think Uncanny + Flesh is the best if you run serrated
hot halo
I do run serrated so I’ll test those two out first
gilded raft
flesher sorta depends on your crit chance to be good. Mercy killer however....
since your build gets you free bleeds, that's always on
calm shard
flesher sorta depends on your crit chance to be good. Mercy killer however....
oh no if only knife had some kind of...built in critical chance increase to help this along!
hybrid plover
flesher sorta depends on your crit chance to be good. Mercy killer however....
mercy killer is not that good
gilded raft
if only it had some finesse booster to make those headshots even stronger
on zealot, I do love an uncanny flesher for funny 80% crit chance super stacking...
on vet... eh... either way
hybrid plover
Mercy killer I think helps the most with bosses and that's really it
Otherwise, Flesh is just far more generalist
And still gets very good boss damage regardless
gilded raft
it is more generalist, but it's also the same as what zealots run, so why not do something else?
variety keeps things interesting
hybrid plover
Bcuz 60% weakspot damage isn't really much to cry home about
Like yeah true, but I honestly couldn't say it's one of the better blessings compared to those others I pointed out
gilded raft
I have 3 different knives, built differently on both vet and zealot, and they all work... mostly the same actually
so yeah, I think half the blessings on the knife are good in pretty much whatever combo with the right build, you'll do fine
uncanny stands high above all as a bit OP, but other than that...
hybrid plover
Plus, there's the awkward contingency that the enemy has to be bleeding first before you can get the damage boost.
unreal totem
what are the most used melee weapons?
still dove
ds ps
unreal totem
and don't talk about power sword because I don't like having to constantly power up for every hit
leaden condor
I think everybody ditched power sword when they added the power falchion
tame lodge
if only it had some finesse booster to make those headshots even stronger
Desperado and Precision Strikes are right there
😭
leaden condor
https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme...
Idk I never see anybody using it anymore
gilded raft
Power sword is still stupid strong... Much higher highs than the falchion
tame lodge
And the best generalist in the game
leaden condor
Power sword is the best melee for vet
They asked what most used is
tame lodge
Power Sword
gilded raft
It's just annoying to use so most people don't bother unless they're try-harding in h40
still dove
DS OR PS
unreal totem
I am using the shovel but it feels like I am using a wet noodle
tame lodge
Seems about right
gilded raft
Most used, ds, cause it's still a bit OP
leaden condor
It's just annoying to use so most people don't bother unless they're try-harding...
So not most used
still dove
shovel is for roleplay
unreal totem
for veteran?
gilded raft
So not most used
Never said it was.
unreal totem
I only see zealot using ds
still dove
huhh
leaden condor
Never said it was.
Yeah I know but pink guy seems to think it is lol
still dove
ds is used a lot on psyker, and vet
leaden condor
shovel is for roleplay
I do enjoy jamming the spiky end in an enemy's skull
buoyant rapids
ds?
sorry folks im new here :p
gilded raft
Yeah I know but pink guy seems to think it is lol
It's probably the strongest... Just too annoying to use all the time and overkill in aurics
still dove
duelling sword
buoyant rapids
ahh okay ty
gilded raft
Bad weapon design from early dark tide
They've been getting better at it over the years but the ps is still OG trash design
leaden condor
I heard they only added the falchion cuz some people wanted to still have the old version
gilded raft
But it's strong so we sorta tolerate it
leaden condor
Who the hell still wanted that lol
gilded raft
I think it was a misunderstanding
People still wanted it to be as strong as it was
And worried that an ease-of-use rework would make it way too op or get it nerfed
So fatshark avoided the problem by making a new one
gilded raft
Not if it keeps it's dummy strong hits
leaden condor
Depends how long the battery lasts ig
tame lodge
But you see
gilded raft
It 2 shots havoc crushers with the right build. Being able to do that for several seconds in a row without the jank of constant activation, and 1 extra blessing as power cycler goes away...
gilded raft
That...
tame lodge
Which means that Fatshark would have to balance the unpowered attacks
gilded raft
It would need a big nerf if it worked like relic
Sorta where the falchion is now actually
And that's what people bitched about
The ps has much higher highs, at the cost of jank
leaden condor
You can turn it off
Well yeah but like if you only get a few hits per recharge compared to relic blade I don't see the issue
Well
No I can see how it would be tricky to balance but not impossible I would think
calm shard
would that not just be the same annoyance
leaden condor
Well nah cuz you click it once, do the phasy thing, get the couple strong hits and then go back to shootin
gilded raft
No I can see how it would be tricky to balance but not impossible I would think
impossible for fatshark
leaden condor
You're not doing the special action after literally every swing
gilded raft
you have to lower your standards a bit ( a lot ) when talking about what is possible, balance-wise, in this game
calm shard
can the twin stubbers on ogryn get more ammo
unreal totem
is power falchion any good?
calm shard
and back off be reworked into something that benefits mag dumping so that infinite ammo rumbler is dead
calm shard
is power falchion any good?
It is mid tier
tall torrent
Giving it a relic blade style battery woulda been fine I reckon
No, cuz the energized atks are far too powerful and the unpowered atks are fully useless
calm shard
unremarkable in its okayness
tall torrent
Heat gauge means u will be forced to use both
calm shard
fun tho
gilded raft
haven't taken it into havocs but it's fun in aurics.
calm shard
love uppercuts in movesets
leaden condor
I like how SM2 did its power sword
Like two different modes with different movesets
tall torrent
The correct way of doing power sword would be the bonesaw/crowbar approach
Not this heat gauge thing
calm shard
I like how SM2 did its power sword
yeah and even that one ended up failing because turns out actually the slow sweepy mode is just better and single target is spam the one single target move they both share
because it does more damage
so despite having a complex moveset and a cool gimmick the optimal way to play it is to never interact with it
tall torrent
Bonesaw is basically “what if the falchion was made to be good”
tame lodge
😭
tame lodge
is power falchion any good?
Overall mid
The stats are whatever
And oh god the blessing pools is horrendous
calm shard
in the year of the lord 2025 we still getting blessing pools with 2 maybe 3 useful blessings
and all garbage outside
calm shard
ps blessing pool is shit too
power cycler is obvious mandatory blessing
then sunder/brutal momentum are miles ahead of everything else
buoyant rapids
so dumb question but ive had the game less than 24 hours and have been wondering
is there respec for the mastery blessings/are you able to fully max them for a weapon type?
like how carefully should I spend those
stable socket
when your mastery is max you'll have enough for all blessings
buoyant rapids
aight gotcha ty ty
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like how carefully should I spend those
throw em around ig it doesn't matter
you unlock them all by max mastery anyway
buoyant rapids
sweet!
stable socket
what trips some people up is that unlocking the blessings in the mastery menu does nothing until you go to hadron and choose one of your unlocked blessing(s) to actually put on your weapon
buoyant rapids
o h
i did not know this 😭
buoyant rapids
I see, thank you that was not clear to me
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average fatshark system
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vermintide players in gacha hell for red weapons:
buoyant rapids
already in gacha hell in other games lmao, more gambling the merrier
tame lodge
vermintide players in gacha hell for red weapons:
I am still Madge about 3 red bows in a row with a class that I don't play
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lmaoo
bro I still need to farm more reds I just don't have friends to do the deed glitch with 💔 💔 💔
literally 5 necklaces in a row 💔 💔 💔
orchid hemlock
What the fuck is the deed glitch?
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What the fuck is the deed glitch?
host puts up deed vote and enters map menu
other person accepts deed mission and then host changes mission
deed modifiers and rewards are now attached to the new mission
orchid hemlock
Oh y'all are talking about Vermintide
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yea
I'm in red item farming hell rn
literally cannot get anything other than necklaces
robust herald
what trips some people up is that unlocking the blessings in the mastery menu do...
this got me when I was starting out, I was like "why aren't my buffs applying- OOOOOHHHH"
ripe lodge
Im looking to play some Havoc after being a Maelstrom gamer for pretty long time. Can vet flex off of Plasma gun in havoc or am I going to be asked to always bring it? Ive been loving the new changes and have been playing exe stance and DB/WS doing well on it. But I know Havoc is a different ballgame.
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Im looking to play some Havoc after being a Maelstrom gamer for pretty long time...
vet has a lot of flexibility in ranged options now
he's actually (mostly) always had really good flexibility
tame lodge
Plasma
Helbore
Shotgun
Double Barrel
Bolt Pistol
Big Bolter
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Plasma
Helbore
Shotgun
Double Barrel
Bolt Pistol
Big Bolter
combat shotgun
ripe lodge
Hell yea the combat shotgun is awesome too. Reddit be on some bs then. The difference in conversation is insane.
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reddits always on bs
tame lodge
True
leaden condor
Vet should steal one of those fancy grenade launchers cadian shock troops use
tame lodge
Do note that due to ammo pickup nerfs on havoc, only a couple of weapons can be played as mostly ranged
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the average shock trooper recon main:
ripe lodge
All good more of a hybrid melee/range gamer myself. I cant stop playing WS.
unreal totem
how does ds deal with hordes?
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leave them to the flame psyker
hollow ibex
how does ds deal with hordes?
It didn’t
tame lodge
how does ds deal with hordes?
Frag grenades
hollow ibex
You just stay safe by dodging into the purg psyker 
tame lodge
The alternative is M1 M1 M1 M1 M1
Or having mk2
And going
Light heavy light heavy light heavy
Light
Heavy
(just use frag grenades)
unreal totem
lol
I was wondering are there any ranged weapon with a better scope, like more zoomed in? most guns your aimind down sights barely zoom in
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ur gonna want to get the weapon customization mod
unreal totem
sometimes the game spawn a gunner or a sniper too far away
hybrid flame
leaden condor
I was wondering are there any ranged weapon with a better scope, like more zoome...
One of them has a church window for a scope
exotic grove
i really like the braced autogun 🙂
hollow ibex
Rip
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my condolences
sharp epoch
ur gonna want to get the weapon customization mod
haxing
umbral scaffold
What's the dumpstat of helbore
tall torrent
What's the dumpstat of helbore
stability
umbral scaffold
thanks
tame lodge
i really like the braced autogun 🙂
How does it feel
orchid hemlock
What's the dumpstat of helbore
YOOOOOO IS THAT WHAT I THINK IT IS????
orchid hemlock
uncut pewter
This is from like half of a month ago but do you mind if you share the blessings on that weapon and the build, seems funny to kill crushers that way.
Also I wanted to ask about shredder grenades
hollow ibex
This is from like half of a month ago but do you mind if you share the blessings...
It’s this one
uncut pewter
It doesn't seem to be great against anything that isn't just chaff, but I don't know if I'm neglecting some kind of potential
hollow ibex
It doesn't seem to be great against anything that isn't just chaff, but I don't ...
You really need to drop 2 at once for killing things
Dropping one is mainly for stagger
uncut pewter
Got it
Hrm, I need to completely rework my attempt at veteran melee build
I don't even have enough point for the rending strikes or other things
hollow ibex
Rending strikes isn’t going to be needed on a lot of builds
It’s just pretty weapon dependent
versed mural
How are the infantry lasguns on veteran? Are they decent? I haven’t used them in ages
stuck gorge
they haven’t really been touched at all
versed mural
I’m gonna play around with one for a bit, just for a change
Can’t hurt to experiment
versed mural
I’m using the fast firing one, it seems alright
hollow ibex
Ah yes
The one that has so much recoil you can’t even max out the rof at medium range if you want to reliably land headshots lol
versed mural
The one that has so much recoil you can’t even max out the rof at medium range i...
That’s what I’m finding lol
The recoil is as bad as some auto guns lol
versed mural
hi im just here to drop this then leave
Based and heavy sword-pilled
versed mural
The recoil is as bad as some auto guns lol
A lot of these feel fine, but basically made irrelevant by the recon lasguns
versed mural
Damn this looks fun though
hollow ibex
How much rending was this lol
slow sky
How much rending was this lol
25% from the rampage node
heavies get 25% rending when the duration of the ability is above 50%
so its only the overheads that get it, the specials dont
hollow ibex
Makes sense
faint beacon
Heavy Sword truthers
atomic zephyr
exe stance weapons specialist with plasma gun is fucking crazy how have i never used this before
hollow ibex
ES goes hard with… just about anything
steel veldt
"YOU ABANDONED ME JUST LIKE YOU ABANDONED MY WORLD!" -Downed Cutthroat
I love this character so much
I couldn't stop laughing
hollow ibex
cutthroat's lines are peak
steel veldt
Cutthroat is just peak
sharp epoch
exe stance weapons specialist with plasma gun is fucking crazy how have i never ...
better than shout
uncut pewter
Can anyone suggest me a good solid template for melee vet, I plan to use power falchion
uncut pewter
"YOU ABANDONED ME JUST LIKE YOU ABANDONED MY WORLD!" -Downed Cutthroat
Is it a cadian cutthroat?
hollow ibex
hollow ibex
Can anyone suggest me a good solid template for melee vet, I plan to use power f...
this is a good starting point
uncut pewter
lmaoo that's almost exaclty what I have
Except I have Out for Blood
'Get back in fight' and etc
steel veldt
Weird to see no grenadier or always prepared
hollow ibex
Weird to see no grenadier or always prepared
always prepared is mandatory on some guns, but this is just a generic build
fair shale
Tbh I don't run always prepared with a lot of guns
fair shale
I primarily enjoy it for like, DB
hollow ibex
yeah
steel veldt
I take it anyway because Demoman
And Always Prepared because I 99.9% of the time run Bolt Pistol
Do I need it? Prob not
Do I love it? Yes.
uncut pewter
I use shredders but I admit they don't strike me as super impressive
steel veldt
Is it fun? Very.
steel veldt
I use shredders but I admit they don't strike me as super impressive
How
They are so good
Outside of like Havoc they are amazing
uncut pewter
They don't seem to be great at clearing out anything that's flak
steel veldt
They stagger them
uncut pewter
Tried to toss them into flak rager swarm and it didn't seem to do much
hollow ibex
steel veldt
And deal a lot of damage
uncut pewter
That's fair!
hollow ibex
I use shredders but I admit they don't strike me as super impressive
see the above
uncut pewter
I did not have tinkerer also at the time too
hollow ibex
shredders have been the meta vet nade for years at this point
steel veldt
Yeah!
hollow ibex
it's only after the rework that kraks became competitive lol
uncut pewter
Also would rending strikes be useful on power falchion out of curiosity
hollow ibex
and now i rate them equally
steel veldt
Also would rending strikes be useful on power falchion out of curiosity
Probably
Still take Serrated Blade
As well
War crimes are great
uncut pewter
Gonna drop grenade tinkerer for rending strikes then
steel veldt
Oh no
Don't do that
Embrace the inner Demoman within you
Get ALL grenade talents...
uncut pewter
Aha I'll experiment with that at some point but I'm just looking to try to pump my power falchion up more
hollow ibex
yeah and combined with FT
steel veldt
Aha I'll experiment with that at some point but I'm just looking to try to pump ...
Me like Combat Blade
uncut pewter
I have cranial grounding and decapitor as blessings right now
hollow ibex
yep
hollow ibex
I have cranial grounding and decapitor as blessings right now
decap is really bad
basically never take it
uncut pewter
Oh? Got it
uncut pewter
Just not hard to do with like dregs
With horde clear in my eyes
Also my gun of choice for now is combat shotgun agripinaa MK VII with deathspitter and no respite
fair shale
You really want manstopper
uncut pewter
Why's that?
uncut pewter
Doesn't it only proc off a crit? I'm always like hesitant on crits being required for some blessings
hollow ibex
With horde clear in my eyes
it's fine there but basically useless once elites start showing up, which in higher difficulties is... nearly all the time
uncut pewter
Since I used to be ogryn onetrick
fair shale
Let me show you something rq
hollow ibex
and tbf i think manstopper agri's only good on specific builds
fair shale
uncut pewter
it's fine there but basically useless once elites start showing up, which in hig...
Fair
fair shale
Goated perk
uncut pewter
Switched it to the heat strength thing
Honestly the gun is more or less "Kill elite and or ragers in front of me"
It has okay damage at range to at least chunk a sniper in my experience
Kinda want to scrouge up a point though to get the ammo swap thing because reloading twelve rounds into the shotgun is kinda time consuming
fair shale
Reload 2 at a time
Its a tube feed shotgun
You don't have to reload all the shells at once
uncut pewter
Oh certainly it just gets bit distracting and having a luxury of having always having something guaranteed chambered to take out something nasty
fair shale
Erm actually you're slow
uncut pewter
Also wait Sirosky
fair shale
*AKSHUALLY* it's a semi auto shotgun 🤓 ☝️
I'm pretty sure it's a spas tbh cause i think you rack it to load it
uncut pewter
why does Focus Target help with your falchion
It looks like it only does ranged finesse damage
fair shale
Aye
hollow ibex
i don't think it's worth using FT just for buffing falch
WS and MMF are both stronger keystones
i basically never take FT lol
livid sphinx
Will there be any balance changes tomorrow
orchid hemlock
But I want trench 😡
gilded wraith
Will there be any balance changes tomorrow
VoC is going to 45s cool down.
hollow ibex
i don't think we know that for sure yet
gilded wraith
True. Does seem to be the way the winds blowing though.
tall torrent
But I want trench 😡
For some melee I don’t think it’s needed
For most tho yes
hasty grove
VoC is going to 45s cool down.
Ffs..
austere mica
Need that image of the soldiers with newspapers but with "VoC Dead" on the back
hasty grove
I’m actually so mad rn
hybrid plover
VoC is going to 45s cool down.
That's not a sure thing at least for this patch
hasty grove
I don’t like having to that long for my ok ability
steel barn
I use a concentration stim and then hit it as often as possible while the ability is up
austere mica
I don’t like having to that long for my *ok* ability
Tf you mean "ok" VoC has been nerfed like 4 times and is still one of the best abilities in the game
hybrid plover
Honestly, I'm okay with it with the pretense that they don't touch or even buff the cooldown for it without golden toughness
hasty grove
Tf you mean "ok" VoC has been nerfed like 4 times and is still one of the best a...
Its great but not as good as people insist
hybrid plover
Golden toughness is the real concern. It'd be stupid to hit the ability entirely because of that.
hybrid plover
Tf you mean "ok" VoC has been nerfed like 4 times and is still one of the best a...
Tbh
It is a little on the weaker side nowadays.
Still good. But it is nowhere near what it used to be and it's noticeable.
hasty grove
And than they’re gonna nerf it again, and again, and again 🙄
austere mica
Changing it to DR would be way healthier
hybrid plover
Yep
austere mica
Still provides durability but like
hybrid plover
I've always felt that they should just make it that you get a percentage of damage reduction as long as you have gold
austere mica
A reasonable and normal amount
hybrid plover
Not literal immunity to toughness bypass.
Because it justfeels like they're trying to make a hard rectification of VoC that may in fact kill it more than anything
tall torrent
Is it still gonna be fun
Yea stance vet is super strong
calm shard
yeah because they know shitters would Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaate gold toughness being nerfed
tall torrent
Vet is not a VoC only class
hybrid plover
yeah because they *know* shitters would ***Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaate*** gold toughness ...
Yeah. But they'd also hate VoC being nerfed to 45s
hybrid plover
Probably even more because that stagger has great value too.
leaden condor
What's chats opinion on the helbore
tall torrent
Vet hasn’t been a VoC-only class since 1.9+
dapper coyote
What's chats opinion on the helbore
Good
austere mica
What's chats opinion on the helbore
Excellent
hasty grove
Its cringe how liking VoC will make people think you’re a VoC crutching plebian
calm shard
What's chats opinion on the helbore
pretty good unless you are extremely built for it and the literal best gun in the game if you are
dapper coyote
You can do absurd dmg numbers with HB
austere mica
1 taps everything relevant at nearly all ranges for basically free
hasty grove
I just like the voicelines
hybrid plover
Dont get me wrong, I love stance but I don't want to have another situation where it becomes the one really viable ability.
tall torrent
Its cringe how liking VoC will make people think you’re a VoC crutching plebian
Nah
They actually made the VoC rez node bettter
hasty grove
Veteran is not a VoC only class 🤓
hasty grove
Veteran is not a VoC only class 🤓
Never has been ur just bad
tall torrent
Dont get me wrong, I love stance but I don't want to have another situation wher...
Don’t think it will be
Cuz gold TGH is still strong
hasty grove
And the CD nerf is ok
It’s fine where its at now
hybrid plover
Cuz gold TGH is still strong
I would rather they rectify golden toughness than the cooldown.
tall torrent
I would rather they rectify golden toughness than the cooldown.
Yea woulda preferred that
hasty grove
They gave Veteran some love with the rework and than they’re going to start rolling out nerfs again 😔
hybrid plover
Or get this.
Make it that the CD nerf only affects shout with Duty and Honor
tall torrent
I originally wrote like base ability 30s, D&H 40s
hybrid plover
I would not mind at all forgoing golden toughness for the shorter cooldown.
hasty grove
Veteran is destined to be FS’s punching bag
tall torrent
I think gold being ~40s CD is fair
Vet alrdy 2nd best class and that’s with psyker being ridiculous
If psyker was actually a balanced class then vet prob first
hybrid plover
If psyker was actually a balanced class then vet prob first
We all know that's not happening. 
hasty grove
I don’t like psyker players
austere mica
Which kind there's staff psykers and melee psykers
hasty grove
I dislike how they can effortlessly clear entire rooms before I get the chance to kill anything
leaden condor
Telepathy wizard vs just a guy
tall torrent
Which kind there's staff psykers and melee psykers
Both can get taken out back and kneecapped by a crowbar
austere mica
If you can catch them
hybrid plover
Psyker is straight up kind of annoying in the current state of the game
And the worst thing is how the game is being balanced solely by how broken they are.
leaden condor
Both can get taken out back and kneecapped by a crowbar
Not for another 8 hours
hollow ibex
Psyker is straight up kind of annoying in the current state of the game
we'll prob be able to add desperado HIV onto that list tomorrow too...
tall torrent
Not for another 8 hours
There’re no psyker nerfs in 1.10 iirc
hasty grove
I dislike how they can effortlessly clear entire rooms before I get the chance t...
Oh my gosh I’m so excited to face this horde… oh?… what?!.. you killed the entire horde with your auto aim needles… cool
vote to kick from strike team
hybrid plover
What does all of these clown car spawns matter when you have constant infinite cleave and DoT propogation?
leaden condor
There’re no psyker nerfs in 1.10 iirc
I mean the guy with the crowbar doesn't get added till then
hybrid plover
Oops, MORE CLOWN CAR SPAWNS
hasty grove
We should start kicking needles psykers from games
lunar maple
What should I run on my power sword?
hasty grove
What should I run on my power sword?
Linux
tall torrent
I think highest melee dps after 1.10 is hvs then vet
austere mica
If you want to beat a psyker just move faster (legitimately)
I can outpace them on vet pretty easy as long as they aren't a hyper aggressive purg player or smth
hybrid plover
What should I run on my power sword?
Carapace Unyielding
Power Cycler + Sunder
mystic lodge
And the worst thing is how the game is being balanced solely by how broken they ...
Psyker steps on everybody else's toes, especially those who rely on kills to get buffs
lunar maple
Carapace Unyielding
Power Cycler + Sunder
Thxxxxxxxxxxx
I used to use it alot before Chainsword
austere mica
If you want to beat a psyker just move faster (legitimately)
I can outpace them ...
But this is also running an arguably just as broken setup so it doesn't exactly count
hasty grove
If you want to beat a psyker just move faster (legitimately)
I can outpace them ...
I don’t really care about stats or anything I just wanna play the game
But they’re so powerful they just kill 9/10 enemies and it makes the game so boring
tall torrent
I think highest melee dps after 1.10 is hvs then vet
Hvs >= vet >= psyker prob
hybrid plover
But this is also running an arguably just as broken setup so it doesn't exactly ...
And that setup, still requires you to actually play the game in a meaningful way
lunar maple
Using the power sword on vet gives me flashbacks to the “ PARRY THIS YOU FILTHY CAUSAL” memes lol
hasty grove
And that setup, still requires you to actually play the game in a meaningful way
Throw needles
Profit
Psyker gameplay loop
tall torrent
But this is also running an arguably just as broken setup so it doesn't exactly ...
If ur talking about DB shotgun then yea
austere mica
I don’t really care about stats or anything I just wanna play the game
But they’...
I didn't mean just stats with this, if you want to beat a psyker to a fight you gotta get moving
Most pub psykers are pretty slow
hasty grove
I didn't mean just stats with this, if you want to beat a psyker to a fight you ...
My solution is kicking them from the game 😩
dapper coyote
If you want to beat a psyker just move faster (legitimately)
I can outpace them ...
Or run WS DB and kill the crowd before they can rack up any kills
austere mica
My solution is kicking them from the game 😩
Kicking people for class choice is lame
hasty grove
It usually goes through so clearly other people are sick of them as well
lunar maple
Carapace Unyielding
Power Cycler + Sunder
Ooo neat I was allready running sunder and I just put power cycler on I was close 😄
austere mica
Leaving if they run an annoying ass setup is fine but kicking is lame unless you're like 3/4 with friends
hasty grove
Kicking people for class choice is lame
Ruining the game because your ego demands you farm scoreboard kills is lame
lunar maple
I wanna like bolt pistol but I like bolter better lol
I don’t care if a knight commander would of used a bolt pistol 😂
mystic lodge
Or run WS DB and kill the crowd before they can rack up any kills
See now the other classes have to cater their playstyle and build just to have fun with a psyker on their team.
And when theres a hyper aggressive psyker? Good luck catching up with him
austere mica
Ruining the game because your ego demands you farm scoreboard kills is lame
I run what's fun for me and perform well, its not meta chasing for me
I actively avoid gross shit like DS, power sword, most psyker staves, rumbler
hasty grove
See now the other classes have to cater their playstyle and build just to have f...
Don’t like the double barrel shotgun? Too bad
mystic lodge
Its like playing PD2 alongside a Risk of Rain 2 character
dapper coyote
See now the other classes have to cater their playstyle and build just to have f...
"We let the dog maul him and forgotten about saving him"
austere mica
The only gross thing I don't avoid is dbarrel weapon spec because I've been using it for forever and seeing it climb from obscurity was fun
hasty grove
I have no sympathy for Psyker trolling
calm shard
Don’t like the double barrel shotgun? Too bad
I out damage some inferno psykers using exe builds
Just because I have pretty good aim and killing specialists/elites en masse is the one thing inferno psyker doesn't do
hasty grove
I out damage ***some*** inferno psykers using exe builds
Guys I’m so excited to fight this poxwalker horde they’re always so fun!
Oh? The pysker wiped the entire horde with 3 buttons… coool
dapper coyote
Solo a Pogryn with revolver while conveniently forgot to res our pskyer
austere mica
Guys I’m so excited to fight this poxwalker horde they’re always so fun!
Oh? Th...
Every class can do this
dapper coyote
I could res him with stealth
austere mica
Its just a bit harder
dapper coyote
But go ahead and sit at spectator for a few minutes
hasty grove
Every class can do this
Activate needle, throw needle, quell. do it again
So ass
I will continue to refuse to play with pyskers until Fatshark addresses the balancing issues
mystic lodge
I out damage ***some*** inferno psykers using exe builds
Heres the thing, even with Exe you are putting yourself at significant risk (tunnel-visioned while ADS for example) to get that DPS, wheras the Psyker can just hover mouse in the general direction of the horde, while having better situational awareness, to output that same amount of DPS
tall torrent
This game only fun if psyker is ur friend in vc or no psyker in team at all
It is what it is
austere mica
Zealot can just run at them with left click
Vet has infinite cleave ala manstopper or frags or extreme dps
Ogryn has rumbler or karsolas heavy hitter
Arbitrator has frag spam, dog explosion, mk3 shotgun, or juiced melee spam
Scum is also going to be horrific for this
calm shard
Heres the thing, even with Exe you are putting yourself at significant risk (tun...
I'm not at risk because I can literally out regen any enemy damaging me tho
just because I clicked a few gunners
mystic lodge
I'm not at risk because I can literally out regen any enemy damaging me tho
Dogs and trappers
calm shard
do you think I didn't already shoot them the second they spawned
tall torrent
I wish there was at least a settings option to not have ability affect FOV
austere mica
I wish there was at least a settings option to not have ability affect FOV
My boundless contempt for the exe stance zoom in
tall torrent
My boundless contempt for the exe stance zoom in
It’s the sole reason I use constantFov mod
I use like 5 mods rn
Creature spawner
Inspect social
Power DI
Constant FOV
Danger zone
austere mica
I've got like 60 or so but I think i could pull half to 3/4 and not notice
calm shard
I could live with only two of the mods I use
austere mica
I just haven't because I never need to update them
tall torrent
I decided to get danger zone exclusively because I kept getting hit by bs bursters that I alrdy pushed
hybrid plover
Okay out of curiosity
austere mica
It also keeps you informed of bursters behind doors and stuff that are basically silent
hybrid plover
Tanner made a new video called "Havoc 40 bound by duty meta" and it seems to be an overview of all the metas of each class
I skim through and see that he didn't do dueling sword plasma but power sword plasma
Okay, a little cl- why is there slaughterer on the power sword
dapper coyote
Tanner made a new video called "Havoc 40 bound by duty meta" and it seems to be ...
Yt builds are questionable at best
Especially Mr E stuff
hybrid plover
Yt builds are questionable at best
I just wanted to see if he could get this right.
He did not.
dapper coyote
Mfs sniff Shoe Glue cans on hourly basis
austere mica
Broken clock isn't even right once a day this thing just goes
hybrid plover
Slaughterer is a literal trap blessing on power sword
dapper coyote
Guys, Caxe is bad!
tall torrent
The 4th best blessing on it
hybrid plover
Why would you use anything other than bromentum or sunder
austere mica
Guys, Caxe is bad!
hybrid plover
Especially sunder
tall torrent
But yea sunder unfortunately mogs every other melee basically
Also power sword kinda benefits quite a bit from stance
dapper coyote
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/604546680288837633/1096751010569007134/...
Mr E belike
tall torrent
Stun immune prevents the power cycler bug from happening
narrow frost
Which is that?
hasty grove
tall torrent
Which is that?
If energized atk hits an enemy right as the player is hit stunned, all remaining energized atks are lost
tall torrent
Stance makes u stun immune so u cannot lose energized atks