#veteran-class

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fair shale
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Scum

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I didn't see the melee swings

tall torrent
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Oh

mortal aspen
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Uprising difficulty, intern on a controller showcase

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Those are prob heavy atks

mortal aspen
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classic fatshark

tall torrent
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Light into heavy

silver patrol
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yeah that was a very lame clip

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tall torrent
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The stab is prob heavy

hollow ibex
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I hope the shivs get flesh tester or lacerate

mortal aspen
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I hope they get 6 impact blessings

narrow frost
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Like dclaw

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Hammer blow, trauma, skullcrusher

mortal aspen
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and perfect block too

fair shale
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Why does dclaw has so many impact blessings

stuck gorge
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New blessing that turns impact to rending fr fr

narrow frost
fair shale
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Blunt baton ass weapon

hollow ibex
narrow frost
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His toughness broke

pseudo fiber
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what are ya aiming at man

narrow frost
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Makes me wonder how long he was fighting those poxwalkers without getting toughness

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Seems to be dual daggers from vt

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Which were fun

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pseudo fiber
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pseudo fiber
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load into level tp to the end

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miss

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job done

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post it

narrow frost
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Yeah

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I don't mind

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I'm just thinking of things that could be happening

pseudo fiber
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We'll get real gameplay on friday

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and then watch as ChocoB or Cole or something plays the exact same

narrow frost
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Like "was it no talent points?" "Do they have no passive toughess Regen like ewew"

fair shale
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I cannot say I find the video to be awe inspiring

hollow ibex
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would be very funny if HIVe ganger just doesn't get toughness

fair shale
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Again

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Lmfao Scum gets THP

hollow ibex
fair shale
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No toughness for you

hollow ibex
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they made arbi and exterm shotguns look like shit somehow

narrow frost
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I just want it to have some skill expression

pseudo fiber
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gameplay video so bad all the testers were fucking baffled lmfaooooo

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I remember they were all like "The fuck?"

narrow frost
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Remember when they devs walked off the map on rolling steel

fair shale
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No that sounds hilarious

narrow frost
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And another time on mercantile at the beaching wall part

fair shale
midnight wyvern
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what gameplay thing are we talking about for HS?

fair shale
midnight wyvern
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shanks

narrow frost
fair shale
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Lmfao

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Bro

fair shale
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Who are they paying to make these videos?

midnight wyvern
fair shale
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fair shale
stuck gorge
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The poor guy was forced to play whilst never having touched a video game in their life

fair shale
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Fuckin apparently lol

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I like that their chosen showcase for the rocket was just

pseudo fiber
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Got me giggling

fair shale
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Trash horde

pseudo fiber
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there were like fucking 10 enemies man

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how do you miss

tame lodge
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And it's a slow stab too

stuck gorge
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also they used rocket launcher on a trash horde

pseudo fiber
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why would they do that to the horse

muted valley
mortal aspen
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console gaming

stuck gorge
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why not show it off on a monstrosity since they’re obviously on the hidden sedition dev difficulty

tame lodge
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Knife heavy stab has more killing intent than whatever that was

hollow ibex
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tbf their stab totally whiffed

tame lodge
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The animation itself feels not impactful
Needs a bit more speed

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Maybe it will feel more impactful once we get extra attack speed

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Bro was clearly not playing Ruffian

void dragon
tame lodge
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Ref do something, he has 2 300 pound Berettas on his side

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Oh yeah

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That's what I'm going to name my Hiver

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Isagi

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Just because dual wielding

thorn lark
tame lodge
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Welp, bro's onto something

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Even has a source to back it up

hollow ibex
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only if guys can wear it too

bleak tendon
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What is UP with the marketing being this ass for this class 😭😭😭

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Arbites did not have these issues 😭😭😭

ocean idol
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Martyr or Piety for shroud DS zealot?

tame lodge
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Which is like huge gaming rep

ocean idol
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Was?

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I thought it did come to RT

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and that together with arbites coming to DT lead me to believe it is part of their marketing for some arbites units for tabletop

hasty grove
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Is the Laspistol usable?

mortal aspen
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I'm kinda sad that we got hive ganger and not some cold trader. It's cool, but no xeno weapons

hasty grove
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Hive Ganger is so ass 😭

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hasty grove
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Literally who wanted it???

mortal aspen
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now I really doubt we'll ever get a cold trader

hasty grove
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I wanted a Mechanicus character as a summoner

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Why is there a 1911 in the background of a football manga

tame lodge
tame lodge
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Mk10 so so

crisp oak
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2 world wars

ocean idol
tame lodge
hasty grove
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I only use the green variants of weapons because they have to match with my cadian armor

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šŸ’…

calm shard
ocean idol
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drugs are cool

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mobility is cool

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dual wielding is cool

hasty grove
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I need a fit check in the name of the Emperor

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fair shale
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I think Cold Trader was always kinda a longshot

mortal aspen
tame lodge
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I think it's still a possibility

fair shale
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I like the idea but I don't see us getting xenos weapons tbh

mortal aspen
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that means...

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mortal aspen
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we're getting Eldar

tame lodge
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It’s nice tho

tame lodge
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Yeah it matches

fair shale
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It's a better regiment anyway

tame lodge
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But I'm not a big fan of elysian

hasty grove
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Cadian color scheme and I needed a change of pace from my usual

fair shale
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D-99 my goats

mortal aspen
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maybe Eldar have their own "shorty" rejects and they just send them over to Brahms

ocean idol
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basically a smuggler

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but of specific kind

mortal aspen
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that would explain the height issue

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ez

tame lodge
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Oh you know what you should try

tame lodge
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The helmet with the flashlight thingy

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It's on the shop rn

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I think it has green

hasty grove
calm shard
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yeah exactly

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's why it's a skill issue

hasty grove
hasty grove
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This my dude rn

hasty grove
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I have that armor too!!

bleak tendon
fair shale
calm shard
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got your lips out incase you gotta kiss someone in an emergency

hasty grove
tall torrent
hasty grove
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I have it, it’s very nice

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Outside of the grenade belt clipping into arms when holding some weapons in loadout menu

bleak tendon
hasty grove
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There isn’t a green flashlight helm but theres a Kasrkin camo one

calm shard
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this is my vet since we're posting those I guess

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I need better pants

hasty grove
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What regiment is that?

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calm shard
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It's a recolor of the Truskan uniform

fair shale
hasty grove
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I’ve been rocking the Veteran’s Sentry for a while before I bought the drop troop armor

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6 sets being available at once is cool

tame lodge
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Yeah I still holding strong against it

fair shale
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It's defo better than it was

hasty grove
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I think people who bitch about the shop are just as annoying as the whales who buy everything

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It can be better for sure

tame lodge
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But damn I want to buy even more now

fair shale
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Elysians are one of my favorite regiments and I still won't buy their armor tbh

tame lodge
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Specially psyker stuff

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But it is way better than 3 sets available at once and all 3 being jackets for veteran

fair shale
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Lmfao real

tall torrent
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Istg FS has some sorta uncanny obsession with giving veteran jackets

fair shale
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Hey guys have 3 reskinned tanker jackets

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Whats that? You want another 3?

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Don't mind if we do.

tall torrent
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Veteran needs more good full armor cosmetics

hasty grove
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Wait

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Light armor

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Heavy armor

hasty grove
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So the armor is Elysian

fair shale
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Yes

hasty grove
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I thought Cadians also had drop troops

tall torrent
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Well

fair shale
tall torrent
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Sorta but they’re not known for it and not in that fit

hasty grove
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Awh man

tame lodge
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I love looking bulky af

hasty grove
tall torrent
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Clean shave looks horrible with this helmet

fair shale
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Tbh they have to sell me something that looks cooler than Havoc gear which they seem to have yet to do

tall torrent
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Just, not in Cadian colours KEKW_ogryn

hasty grove
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But its not good enough

fair shale
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Actually

hasty grove
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I demand proper Cadian armor

fair shale
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Yk what I want as armor more than anything in the world for vet?

tall torrent
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The snowhound armor is standard Cadian armor

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Just, not in Cadian green paint

hasty grove
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Exactly

fair shale
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Classic Inquisitorial Stormtroopers(it will not happen)

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There’s Cadian light armor and Cadian heavy armor

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Cadian light armor has clothing render issues in 3rd person

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Cadian heavy armor has weird arm textures in 1st person

fair shale
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They were the perfect design and GW murdered them for scions

hasty grove
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It’s fcked up how the game that represents my boys and girls in green the best… you can’t even play as them

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fair shale
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Its more fucked up how many vet cosmetics have cadia written on them

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There’re multiple Cadian armors in the game tho

fair shale
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That genuinely is one of the things that stops me from buying shit

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Just not 1 that’s ā€œstandard Cadian fitā€

fair shale
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Is how many cadian specific armors they have

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But tbh the heavy armor looks better imo

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Full body carapace

fair shale
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The Kasrkin gear?

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Peak

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hasty grove
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I just really want the kit with the khaki pants & undercoat

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With that said I still think the black grenadier heavy armor is the best looking one

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Stygian smth smth

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It’s Cadian pattern

hasty grove
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Imo the best representation my favorite faction has had was in Space Marine 2

tame lodge
hasty grove
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Its never coming out

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I sob

fair shale
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Vet isnt even the only one with a dumb amount of cadian stuff, Og has it too

calm shard
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this one actually never came out

hasty grove
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I have the shittier version of it tho

calm shard
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they have the camo one

hasty grove
tame lodge
calm shard
tame lodge
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#ourcutthroatnotrealcadian

fair shale
hasty grove
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L

fair shale
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Cadians and Krieg

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My two least favorite regiments in the entirety of 40k

hasty grove
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It’s ok to have bad tastes ig

tame lodge
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Another 500 Barquette rerun

fair shale
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Fwiw I dislike Krieg way more than Cadia

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Mainly cause I've met too many red armband krieg people

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hasty grove
hasty grove
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Mutie slam

tame lodge
hasty grove
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It’s ok

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I like it alot

tame lodge
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Love the pouches

hasty grove
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Same

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Looks tacti-cool

hollow ibex
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fanny pack ahhh cosmetic

tame lodge
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Turns out wearing on your upper body has better aura

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Or you're The Rock

hasty grove
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Im going to store my ammunition on center mass

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So when the enemy shoots at my center mass they’ll hit my ammo and I’ll explode

fair shale
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Have you ever played the FFG rpgs?

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For warhammer

hasty grove
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Idk what an FFG is

fair shale
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Fantasy Flight Games

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They made like Deathwatch, Only War, Dark Heresy(game Darktide is based on loosely), and Black Crusade

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And Rogue Trader fwiw

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Tldr they have an ammo cook off mechanic like that and it brought back memories

hasty grove
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I know of them but haven’t played them yet

fair shale
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Love BT

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Love my HAG 30s

tame lodge
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No but you see

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You're denying them from scavenging ammo from your dead body

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Actually giga brain move

sonic kayak
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Ey yo welcome back @hasty grove

hasty grove
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Heyyy

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Long see no time

sonic kayak
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That's what I say!

hasty grove
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I disappeared off the face of the internet for a bit. Wasn’t doing well mentally

sonic kayak
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I was wondering what happened

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Either way, welcome back

hasty grove
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Thank you

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what are the best curio perks?

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idk if the meta shifted or sum

hollow ibex
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toughness, stam regen, gunner resist, cdr, revive speed

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in rough order of priority

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what would you do for blessings

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rn I have like max stamina then 2 toughness

hollow ibex
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1 hp 1 stam 1 toughness

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not taking hp is pretty rough on vet

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because there are a lot of things that bypass toughness

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and vet has low hp

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guess I can try

subtle hornet
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How does smoke grenade work and does they work agains bosses?

hybrid plover
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you also want at least one sniper res

hollow ibex
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might be good on havoc idk

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i skip it on auric now

hybrid plover
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It helps to mitigate the damage pretty noticeably even in Auric

hollow ibex
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yeah def

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getting shot by a sniper really sucks

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but it's been very rare for me

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also i'm not reaching the 200 hp breakpoint anyway

hybrid plover
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it only happens

hollow ibex
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cuz vet base stats are ass

hybrid plover
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when I don't fucking hear the queue.

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hybrid plover
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I am so tired of that sound bug

hollow ibex
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is gunner really that necessary on auric

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considering I don't go hand to hand with them

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more willing to take revive speed considering how many times my teammates go down

hollow ibex
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it's honestly the most important damage resistance imo

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if you feel like you're fine without it, don't run it

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i personally take 2 gunner resist

slate wave
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Gunner is really important since havoc either throws a million gunners or 18 snipers covering angle from here to Wisconsin

tame lodge
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It works against Beast of Nurgle

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As it'll have to get closer for puking

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When in doubt

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Stay in the smoke

hybrid plover
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Staying in the smoke also circumvents the visibility issue

ocean idol
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What about throwing it on clumps of ranged enemies

hybrid plover
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Also works as long as they're in the smoke and they'll have to reposition.

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That being said.

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It won't stop them from shooting if they're already in the middle of a salvo.

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But they won't adjust their aim towards you while their vision is blocked.

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Meaning, don't just stand still.

ocean idol
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Also it used to block dogs and flamers, is that still the case?

hybrid plover
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Dogs don't really care. Flamers have to reposition.

hollow ibex
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i thought smoke fucks with dog ai too

hybrid plover
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i mean, it does

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but it's really, really inconsistent from my experience

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and not worth banking on

fair shale
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Dog ai fucks with dog ai

hybrid plover
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^

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Dog ai is just fucked to begin with.

fair shale
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You can defo tell they're fucked with assassin rats sometimes

hollow ibex
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fair

hybrid plover
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Flamers and trappers though. Way more consistent on those.

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Only thing is uh

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Trappers can uh

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Be a good and bad thing

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Because they'll reposition to be point blank with you so if you're not wary and they manage to close the distance, it is much harder to dodge them.

fair shale
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I think Trappers have "killed" me more than any enemy

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The ol trapper flamer combo

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Can't see what you're trying to shoot cause flamers are so obnoxious

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Mashing ping

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Good times

hollow ibex
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is because they just fucking blind you

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the fire damage is less of a threat than you suddenly just can't see shit

ocean idol
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assassins i think my fav specials from VT

ocean idol
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so funny sometimes

fair shale
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My favorite special in VT is probably the beastmen that charge at you

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I love bulltrueing them

ocean idol
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Counter charge them with BULL OF OSTLAND

sonic kayak
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DEATH TRAAAAAAAAAIN

hybrid plover
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the push back is so unbelievably obnoxious

hollow ibex
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that too

fair shale
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Flamers might actually be my second least favorite special after bombers

hybrid plover
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Mutants are my least favorite by far

fair shale
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Ik

hybrid plover
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I hate those bastards so much.

fair shale
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We've talked about you hating them cause of the throw

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Cause I said they're whatever cause you can back up into walls

hybrid plover
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I got thrown.

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Into a trapper net yesterday

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During a clutch

fair shale
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I will say muties are a fat nothing burger when you play arby with their stupid dog

fair shale
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That shit pisses me off lol

hybrid plover
fair shale
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Lmfao vent purge snipers?

hybrid plover
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Nope.

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IT WAS A SCAB MELEE

fair shale
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Mutants are whatever for me but

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I always ran guns that killed them well

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Like I'd rather be hit by a mutie than a trapper or a dog

hybrid plover
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Reason I love double barrel so much is because it just nukes the fuckers on a braced shot

fair shale
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Idk, bombers are annoying as fuck

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I think they cause a lot of death spirals in teams that don't deal with them

ocean idol
fair shale
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I dont think I've ever been thrown into a dog

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At least not in recent memory

ocean idol
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another reason for me to hate dogs

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disgusting creatures

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curses on whoever made that stupid trope of "all gods are good boys"

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He should see people ripped apart by homeless dog packs

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wait hold on

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gunner resistance

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is it the special gunners

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or all enemies with guns

fair shale
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Iirc its heavy gunners and the shitters that shoot you

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But not shotguns and plasma

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ok that makes it worth picking it up then

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always thought itw as the heavy gunners

stuck gorge
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It’s specifically reaper and the scab/dreg gunner elites, but not the stalkers (trash mobs with guns)

fair shale
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Is that why stalkers still rip you a new asshole?

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Cause they're partially melee coded

stuck gorge
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And the number of them

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500 stalkers be upon ye

fair shale
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Fuck any special

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Stalkers the actual bane of my existence ngl

stuck gorge
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just in case you didn’t know

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I know that

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okay so the fodder with gun dont count for the resistance

stuck gorge
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yea

tall torrent
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then i still see no point picking that up as vet

gilded pike
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Best way to do no melee damage penance?

stuck gorge
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Be paranoid and run VoC with gold toughness subnode

fair shale
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Or jump off a ledge and get carried, iirc that still works?

gilded pike
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Doesnt ledge kill you after a bit

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I can help rn

gilded pike
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Im struggling a bit but willing to try soloing it for now, but thats a kind offer!

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Mostly just asking for advice

fair shale
gilded pike
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Oh lol

tall torrent
gilded pike
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So a suicide vet that sits it out will get the feat i see xD

tall torrent
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I can help u do it in 15 mins prob

gilded pike
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gilded pike
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šŸŽŠ :)

swift jolt
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Can’t wait for Loose Cannon Veteran to be buying ALL of the Hive Scums’ drugs when they arrive on the Mourningstar

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Buying is a strong word

stuck gorge
hybrid plover
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.

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So them getting robbed straight up would be off the table by power scaling since they're probably gonna be stronger than vet for a time lmao

stuck gorge
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No no no, loose cannon uses infiltrate and grabs all the stims and gets the hell outta there in 16 seconds

tall torrent
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Gameplay? Or lore

hybrid plover
tall torrent
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I really doubt it

hybrid plover
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You think so?

tall torrent
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Yea

hybrid plover
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was, a tad overtuned even compared to the current roster.

tall torrent
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I really doubt it

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Maybe hiver will be upgrade of zealot

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But I doubt being stronger than vet

hollow ibex
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god i can't wait for all the recon las vets to switch to HIVe ganger

fair shale
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I legit think that skill will attract the worst players in dt

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I can see them popping it and dying almost immediately now

stuck gorge
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one mod did say the debuff for the one ability is absolutely horrendous once it ends

fair shale
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I imagine we're both talking about infinite ammo

stuck gorge
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whatever that one rampage skill is that lasts for like 30 seconds

tall torrent
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There’s a debuff after it expires

fair shale
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Which is rampage?

tall torrent
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Melee ult

stuck gorge
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i joked about like -75% dodge duration and theyre saying its alot worse

tall torrent
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Lmao

fair shale
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That sounds uh

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Bad.

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Like

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Do not use bad

tall torrent
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I can alrdy see it

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Blinder
Ammo share
Stim crate
Stim keystone

fair shale
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That sounds about right tbh

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Ammo share is gonna be their survivalist

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Its gonna be the mandatory aura you get flamed for not taking

tall torrent
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There’s no chance hvs is better than vet lol

fair shale
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I don't think it's better

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I just mean it's the mandatory aura they're forced to run

tall torrent
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I mean the class

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Don’t think hvs will be better than vet

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Maybe zealot but still doubt

fair shale
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Oh

tall torrent
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Can’t say more

fair shale
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I don't think HS and Vet are comparable

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From what I've seen

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Idk why everyone looked at them and went "vet dead vet dead"

tall torrent
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Every single person saying that has no idea how vet even plays

fair shale
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I agree

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I think they step on zealots toes more from what I've seen

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But I ofc haven't played them

pseudo fiber
tall torrent
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It doesn’t take a genius to figure out why vet is 2nd best class rn

fair shale
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Big damage

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Imo anyway

tame lodge
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With a side of drugs

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And a big ass 2 second delay bazooka

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fair shale
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DT is a melee game at heart

tame lodge
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There's a talent for sprint dodge

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And in the code there's a blessing for sprint dodge

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So maybe

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Just maybe

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You can do some funny stuff

steel veldt
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I never tried Plasma Gun, does it still blow up in your face and down you if you reach 100%

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I wanna try it on an Exe stance build

sonic kayak
steel veldt
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got it

tall torrent
steel veldt
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kk!

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I normally use boltgun or laspistol with ti

steel veldt
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want to beat it on Auric with a friend with ti

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Or do I stick to WS Bpistol and knife VoC

tall torrent
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twins hard mode got nerfed
and vet now has ~70% more dmg than before on avg

steel veldt
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not even hard mode

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tbh

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I just know last time we failed because my entire team got downed in 2 seconds halfway through

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and then I nearly clutched

burnt pelican
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@steel veldt dont use plasma on rotten armour modifier for ur own sanity

steel veldt
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basically I slid a second to late and a sniper hit me against a wall

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and cucked me with a mauler

steel veldt
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Isn't it don't use ANY ranged weapon against rotten armour?

short agate
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Nah I feel like I could helbore it

burnt pelican
# steel veldt Why?

On rotten armour ur mostly shooting ranged units and specials for which there are better guns to do so

steel veldt
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Yeah we need proper teammates

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wtf

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Randoms on Twins are such dogshit

burnt pelican
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Xd fact

steel veldt
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level 700 Ogryn

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gets trap'd randomly and we all lose

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okay

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And he is a level 700 Ogryn where he got outdamaged boss wise by a Vet

burnt pelican
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Levels dont correspond to skill level

#

If anything very high levels are usually not as good

#

Its mostly people running meme builds and playing for fun

steel veldt
#

Dude had a pickaxe and grenade launcher

#

I think he was playing meta

#

only thing he had that wasn't meta was bull rush

burnt pelican
#

Pickaxe isnt meta then again idk not ogryn main

steel veldt
#

From what I've seen it should be

#

lol

orchid hemlock
#

Meta this meta that

burnt pelican
#

I run pickaxe on ogryn i wouldnt consider it meta myself shield and power maul seem way stronger

fair shale
#

Pickaxe is og meta iirc

burnt pelican
#

Well my teammates judge me for bringing it to h40 so idk

orchid hemlock
#

To me the shield is "meta" chadgryn

burnt pelican
#

Shield is the way to go

#

If u cant protect lil uns what r u doing

#

And sides its rumbler and gauntlet from my experience

burnt pelican
#

Rumbler good for mixed hordes gauntlet amazing all rounder

#

Rumbler struggles with special sniping

#

and twin linked stubber for the memes

#

Funny ogryn go brr

crisp oak
orchid hemlock
crisp oak
#

Also only techpriests are binary

steel veldt
#

plasma taking some used to

#

ngl

tall torrent
fair shale
#

Branx very good

#

Favorite melee on Og

mystic lodge
#

Is this build alright? Weapons are Agripinaa IAG and Mk7 DCS

hollow ibex
#

i'd suggest dropping tinkerer, o4b and ET

#

to take skirmisher, AE, and exploit weakness (dclaw really needs these)

#

with VOC and CK you should have more than enough toughness regen

#

also i don't think it's worth pathing for mag size

#

better to path on the left for stam regen delay and killzone

#

tinkerer is only necessary on kraks if you are going into high havoc

#

otherwise skirmisher will give you one-shot crusher breakpoint

mystic lodge
hollow ibex
#

out 4 blood

mystic lodge
#

what is ET?

#

oh exhilirating takedown?

hollow ibex
#

yeh

mystic lodge
hollow ibex
#

well up to you, but agri honestly already has a pretty decent mag size imo

#

it has the largest of all the combat shotguns

#

and good reload speed

mystic lodge
#

Oh Im using the IAG Agripinaa

hollow ibex
#

OH lmao

#

but that one also has a very fast reload

#

and 0.5 stam regen delay is very helpful for your defenses / parrying

mystic lodge
#

does exploit weakness's damage increase apply for ranged weapon as well?

hollow ibex
#

nope

#

but it's going to be always up for your melee

slow sky
#

its a global damage buff

#

it affects all outgoing damage, even grenades

mystic lodge
#

can I 1shot a crusher with that buff without Tinkerer?

slow sky
#

ngl idk

fair shale
#

Not with rot armor ime

slow sky
#

cuz i forgot what kraks do on attached

#

without tinkerer

hollow ibex
#

you just need skirmisher unless you're in havoc

hollow ibex
slow sky
#

yeah

hollow ibex
#

forgot that it was global

slow sky
#

so skirmisher and EW combined are an easy to proc and long lasting 45% global damage

#

and somehow people think vet got left behind

#

when before this update ew was a useless amt of brittleness and skirmisher was god awful and never picked

mystic lodge
#

I wish Crushers werent so dominant in Havoc

#

If Havoc builds werent centered around countering Crusher spam Id play Havoc too

slow sky
#

the spawnrates are having to compete with how strong certain weapons are, powersword, duelling sword, relic blade, etc

#

people are going to be running those anyway so its the only way to attempt to challenge them

mystic lodge
#

Idk why those just couldnt be nerfed or reworked

slow sky
#

because rather than toning down the stuff thats too strong (people will throw fits)
the enemies have to match that power

slow sky
#

the game got review bombed when power sword went from 4-7 charges to 1-3 charges

hollow ibex
slow sky
#

like thats the playerbase theyre dealing with

mystic lodge
slow sky
#

right

#

but enough people do it to where it actively harms the devs every time, so its better for them to just try to avoid that

crisp oak
#

I think the dual barrel should go through bulwark shields and have 4 shots

slow sky
#

helldivers and its consequences

fair shale
#

I genuinely don't understand why peoppe want buff everything balance

#

Its how we end up in the meta we're in

#

Where good weapons are good and bad ones are completely unusable

#

You'll also end up in warframe numbers. Million hp enemies taking 100k damage a hit.

slow sky
crisp oak
#

Dclaw parry should 2 tab crushers

#

Heavy sword should have 100% rending

#

Shreder autopistol should do 300 damage

mystic lodge
#

u gotta wait for them to bring that hammer down to parry

slow sky
# fair shale You'll also end up in warframe numbers. Million hp enemies taking 100k damage a ...

this make be a hot take but i also play a fair bit of warframe
it works for warframe because thats just the kind of game warframe is meant to be
you play it to grind for drops, watch the numbers go up, create really goofy builds that break the game
darktide has much more involved combat with tons of mechanical depth and skill expression to explore (whereas warframe is more numbers and stat setups), so the only buff approach on balance only invalidates the reason the game exists in the first place

mystic lodge
#

DS dependents:

fair shale
#

I agree, tbh I just make the warframe comparison cause in a buff only ecosystem I see numbers eventually scaling to almost unquantifable levels.

mystic lodge
fair shale
#

Its so weird to me how bad DS feels in DT but Saltz Rapier feels in VT

mystic lodge
#

flimsy sword touches Carapace-armored Ogryn and it dies

slow sky
mystic lodge
#

Isnt dueling sword supposed to be designed for unarmored dueling in a civilian context 😭

fair shale
fair shale
#

Nice

mystic lodge
fair shale
#

My starter frame was loki, if that dates my warframe time for you.

mystic lodge
#

meanwhile autogun vets struggle to find an enemy thats not already dead so they can finally land a headshot šŸ’Ŗ

slow sky
fair shale
#

I started idek when, my homie got me into it freshman year of HS

#

I think that was 2012?

slow sky
#

im currrently mr 35

fair shale
#

I'm defo not

#

I think i quit at mr 21?

#

Ik its over 18

#

Defo not 30 not

slow sky
#

i think from the low 20s to 30 is like 3x the amount from 0 to 20

fair shale
#

I believe that

#

Its a game about grinding

#

Gotta have something to grind

#

Was a Nekros main cause of that

slow sky
#

wheres my dope ass octavia song

hollow ibex
#

man i grinded out everything in WF a while back

#

and quit

fair shale
#

They added more

hollow ibex
#

there must be so much more shit now

#

yeah

#

not going back

fair shale
#

Thats pretty neat tbh, not bad on the ears

slow sky
#

its optimal too

fair shale
#

I remember her coming out when I was quitting

slow sky
#

theres now 2 music frames lmfao

#

octavia and temple

#

temple is a rock star frame with a concious infested guitar that doubles as an exalted weapon flamethrower

fair shale
#

At least they haven't run out of ideas yet tbh

slow sky
#

you line up your use of abilities to the metronome under your crosshair

fair shale
#

I'll give them that

slow sky
#

cant forget all of the music theyre making

fair shale
#

Everytime someone asks me to play WF I have no fucking idea whats going on anymore tbh

#

There's simply so much to do

slow sky
#

the mission where you get that frame is a defense where you defend said frame

#

oh did i mention youre defending them as they perform this and you hear it throughout the mission

#

The new song from Techrot Encore, "Lamenting the Days" has stage dived out of Warframe! Listen to the latest track on YouTube now created in collaboration with Mark Holcomb and Jake Bowen of the band Periphery, with support from Elliot Coleman as well as the Warframe Sound team!

CREDITS:

Composer(s)
Jake Bowen, Mark Holcomb

Producer
Jake Bow...

ā–¶ Play video
slow sky
fair shale
#

Mom's gone

#

Ik that

fair shale
slow sky
#

not anymore

fair shale
#

Mom's back

slow sky
fair shale
#

Also there's children?

#

Tbh thats kinda when the game jumped the shark dor me and I went "wtf is happening"

slow sky
#

thats more when they actually kickstarted a plot rather than just the game solidifying the current setting

fair shale
#

Idek where we are now tbh

slow sky
#

we've ran circles around that by now

fair shale
#

The last quests I did was "mom's gone"

#

Im sure wf is well beyond that

slow sky
#

the last BIG BIG update was 1999

#

with like an actual longer story quest

fair shale
#

I think i heard about 1999 but havent played since

hollow ibex
#

wat exactly is 1999 lol

slow sky
hollow ibex
#

yeah saw some clips

#

but it confused me

slow sky
#

wow this is a lot longer than i thought itd be

narrow widget
slow sky
#

no like the warframe

narrow widget
#

oh the one with the humans instead of the robots

#

?

slow sky
# hollow ibex but it confused me

cutting things super duper short and assuming you have basically no warframe knowledge
at the very end of the sentient storyline which concludes with the new war quest, if you dont know what that is it doesnt matter really
at the very of that quest the next major story thing happens when you see the man in the wall, which is some sort of void based entity (void is the source of warframe powers basically)
trying to figure out what the fuck it was sends you and your alternate timeline self from new war looking for answers, and the answers likely lie with this scientist guy named entrati who was involved by name and influence in a couple of previous quests
couple of other story quests happen, and youre narrowing in on where he is, only to find hes in some sort of alternate timeline(?) thing, currently in the year of 1999, within the country of hollvania
said country just so happens to have an outbreak of an unknown physical virus infecting and growing via technology called techrot, and a totalitarian military force that took over by raw force fighting the infestation while also exerting their rule on the population
theres also these "proto-frames", which are human/warframe hybrids apparently created by entrati by tricking them with a "cure" (entrati is a fucking dickweed asshole btw), who are targeted by that military force and labeled as terrorists cuz theyre like half techrot kinda

hollow ibex
#

damn that's wild

slow sky
#

oh and you can date the proto frames

#

thats a thing they did

hollow ibex
#

no wonder i have no idea waht the fuck was going on

stone tapir
#

whats the build to make reconds good? i heard they were viable now (ive been away for over a year)

slow sky
#

keystones can be focus target or weapon specialist, MMF doesnt help it much at all
weapon specialist may be cheaper to reach cuz of onslaught and all the other great general use nodes there

stone tapir
#

do you have a Darktide.gameslantern build i could look at? much easier that way

slow sky
stone tapir
#

thats fair

slow sky
#

every ability works
every grenade works
every aura works
multiple keystone choices
multiple spare points to throw around wherever youd like

slow sky
stone tapir
#

is CIAG still the top IAG?

austere mica
#

Its the Vraks now but yeah

stone tapir
#

i was never really fond of Vraks. what makes it better?

austere mica
#

No the name

#

They changed its name

#

For some reason

stuck gorge
#

Names of a bunch of weapons changed

#

all hellbore marks, some psyker staves, and a few others I can’t remember

stone tapir
#

what the fudge knuckles

austere mica
#

Its still the mk5

stuck gorge
#

Just to be consistent with lore is my only guess

austere mica
#

The short blue one

stone tapir
#

ok

#

thats whack

#

i remember the Columnus being top dog for a while

austere mica
#

This thing

hallow drift
stuck gorge
austere mica
stone tapir
#

so the MKVIII or MKV

stuck gorge
#

still mkV

stone tapir
#

ok, thanks much

#

so is chainsword still good for Vet or is that less viable now?

austere mica
#

it wasn't good before

#

Its better now though

stuck gorge
#

power sword still op

stone tapir
#

i thought it was pretty decent, but im a sucker for chainswords

#

power sword? does the alternate attack still stick on the first target?

#

ive avoided the power weapons because i dont like getting them stuck on a random mob when theres a crusher or something else in front of me

stuck gorge
#

power sword doesn’t latch onto enemies

austere mica
#

Power sword has goofy cleave any (real) way you run it

stuck gorge
#

and had bajillion cleave

#

And damage

#

(When powered )

stone tapir
#

looks like ima give the power sword a try

stuck gorge
#

If it’s not powered it’s a wet noodle and you will suffer

stone tapir
#

i figured as much

stone tapir
#

whats the better recon MK?

hollow ibex
stone tapir
#

whats the difference between the PSword and PFalchion?

verbal token
#

PFalchion functions somewhat similarly to the zealot’s relic blade, with a heat gauge.

#

PSword can be activated, giving you the ability to do powered swings/attacks for I believe 3 times before it runs out of energy and needs to be activated again.

hybrid plover
#

Power sword powered is also just an entire dimension stronger than power falchion

stone tapir
#

i like the PFalchion, i'll still give the PSword a shot, but so far its a big boot to fill

hybrid plover
#

It's a little awkward to use but the damage difference is unignorable

#

Along with Sunder's inherently busted cleave

stone tapir
#

so what are the differences between the MKs?

#

for PF and PS

hybrid plover
#

Moveset

#

For falchion, mk1 is objectively the best

#

for sword, mk6 is objectively the best

stone tapir
#

yea so far, ye olde chainsword has lost the competition

#

much as i enjoy ripping and tearing, the results just arent there anymore

ember halo
hollow ibex
#

falchion's ok against crushers

#

it's all the other things lol

stone tapir
#

ok, you guys were right, the PSword is better. im not a fan of how sluggish it is compared to the PFalchion, but its a beast for sure

hollow ibex
#

yeah psword lets you feel like a god

#

for three swings at least KEKW_ogryn

fair shale
#

Give me a power sword long enough and I could cleave atoma in twain

stone tapir
#

what blessings does it need?

fair shale
#

Cycler and Sunderer iirc

hollow ibex
#

pc4 is mandatory

#

then sunderer or brumentum

stone tapir
#

so what perks should i put on the recon las? right now i have Flak/Elites

hollow ibex
#

flak/unyielding + crit

fair shale
#

Aye

hollow ibex
#

i prefer unyielding because fuck bulwarks

fair shale
#

I prefer it cause i tbh do not feel a difference on flak kills

stone tapir
#

how many times can you change perks?

hollow ibex
#

unlimited now

#

same with blessings

#

old shit system got nuked

#

except for curios ig

stone tapir
#

...

#

i am flabber ghast

#

its enough to make a grown man cry

hollow ibex
#

understandable

stone tapir
#

so this is what im working with right now

#

i legit just got the PSword off Brunts, so i know its not the most ideal right now

#

i didnt change the perks on the PSword because i only have T1 perks right now for it

mortal vine
#

chat im trying to get make every shot count dore

#

done

#

any tips?

stone tapir
#

dont miss?

fair shale
#

Take off survivalist

mortal vine
#

aw fuck you're so right

fair shale
#

Use a low ammo count gun

mortal vine
fair shale
#

Np

#

I used a shotgun back when it was 100 percent accuracy instead of 90

mortal vine
#

ooh good point

mortal vine
#

am i able to see my accuracy or is it just guessing

#

a player

#

prayer

wanton vapor
#

Guessing basically, I don’t know any mods that show live accuracy

austere mica
#

Just run dbarrel weapon spec and play super wastefully

#

The way that build plays you never miss

regal smelt
#

there was a mod at one point I think, but guesswork works well enough

#

count the shots you miss and make sure you hit more to make up for them

austere mica
#

I got the penance accidentally when I was playing dbarrel and realized I hadn't missed all mission

#

So i just shot every poxwalker I saw in end event and got it

regal smelt
#

dont do what my friend did and use recon las till he got it passively

narrow widget
gentle lake
mortal vine
#

i decided id rather have fun and not worry about it

narrow widget
#

good idea

frosty hatch
#

recon lasgun pretty fun

vital copper
signal zinc
#

Fellas

238 hp 210 toughness
Or
205 hp 246 toughness

dense belfry
#

Any ideas on how to make Vraks Braced autogun build? Not for havoc, mind. I'm never playing that shit. Lol.

#

Like, what blessings and such.

silver patrol
#

probably the only two real damage blessings

#

Deathspitter and fire frenzy

thorn lark
distant mural
signal zinc
#

šŸ‘

#

ready to rock & roll

frank ledge
dense belfry
#

Cadians having to go 5 minutes without saying the word "Cadia".

Wut

slow sky
#

So either
Stam hp toughness for havoc
Or stam 2x toughness for auric and below

naive needle
#

Use the infantry lasgun normally, can't decide if the helbore is worth trying..

#

Charge time puts me off a bit but otherwise lower rate of fire isn't something I would mind

thorn lark
pseudo fiber
slow sky
naive needle
#

How do they compare for ammo efficiency

silver patrol
#

hellbore has infinite ammo

calm shard
#

they're both in the camp of "It's a lasgun they have infinite ammo with shocktrooper"

#

So about the same really

naive needle
#

I haven't struggled for ammo with infantry lasgun either tbh so that makes sense

slow sky
#

Helbore has slightly less ammo efficiency out of the box but much better crit for shock trooper cuz this is like the best gun for surgical

#

Cuz it builds stacks as you charge it up while aiming

silver patrol
#

it's very hard to drop below 700 ammo in reserve

calm shard
#

I do it all the time :)

#

On games where I get nearly 800K ranged damage xd

naive needle
#

Ohh yeah looking at surgical that sounds nice

#

Is there a way to see your crit chance

#

and modifiers to it

pseudo fiber
#

Again if you're on PC the display crit chance mod

naive needle
#

Should probably look into mods

pseudo fiber
#

They're good

thorn lark
#

I might try again

naive needle
#

Wondering what else would go well with surgical. Is it likely to stagger big guys if you used falter? Small guys should just die so no need to stagger them. Hot-shot to cut through multiple small guys is another thought but won't make any difference when shooting at big guys

naive needle
#

wtf is the point in falter then

calm shard
#

it used to apply to your melee weapon too

#

but that was a "bug" that needed to be fixed

#

hot-shot also used to apply to your melee weapon

naive needle
#

Ahh, can see some more use in some of them in that case if it applies across both weapons

calm shard
#

but hot-shot is like actually useful for the gun itself too

#

so

#

not worth it on Mk IV because that gun needs weight of fire

#

but IIIa and V can use it

naive needle
#

Can't easily try each variant yet as I have no mastery in the weapon

#

So if it has no stagger, I guess aim for a gun with /60% stopping power and /80% everything else

calm shard
#

stopping power is not stagger

#

it is armor damage

#

collateral is the stagger stat on guns

#

helbore dumps stability

naive needle
#

Ok, so /60% stability

calm shard
#

yeah

naive needle
#

Shame, shop only has stopping power, dmg and charge rate right now. Avoiding losing out on those

#

Although might just buy a cheap one to try out for a few missions

#

Gets some mastery I guess, but also not a fair representation to compare the maxed out infantry lasgun I have to a cheap helbore lasgun

dense belfry
#

Question for Helbore lasgun: is stopping power 60 good?

naive needle
#

I think the answer there was no, as its armour damage

midnight wyvern
#

dump charge rate, embrace eternity

dense belfry
midnight wyvern
#

no that is legitimately not good to dump

#

if you read the chat, someone had just told you what stopping power did

#

which is armour damage

calm shard
midnight wyvern
#

šŸ¤

#

woe, 2 shot H40 crushers be upon ye

dense belfry
silver patrol
midnight wyvern
#

its just information

#

use it

#

someone break into fatshark HQ and change their calenders to 2nd of dec man

#

give me the british cosplayer already

dense belfry
#

One Week

#

We can wait one more week.

midnight wyvern
#

nuh uh

gleaming beacon
#

I am incredibly impatient
My life is boring at this time of year

dense belfry
midnight wyvern
#

allegedly, we get testers videos out tomorrow?

dense belfry
#

Just hope that they've found a good niche for the ganger to fill.

#

I'd be shocked if it was supportive.

midnight wyvern
#

I wouldn't be

#

one of its abilities is giving the stimm affects to everyone

calm shard
#

based entirely around giving your teammates custom stimm effects

pseudo fiber
midnight wyvern
#

neat

dense belfry
midnight wyvern
#

I hope the rocket launcher can heal

#

I hope the other classes have reactions to getting shanked by the HS with a dirty syringe

#

if you can even do that

#

I do hope their stimm works like normal stimms, just with their designed effect

pseudo fiber
#

I believe it does

turbid ibex
#

Its basically a stimm on a cooldown

#

According to the blog post

dense belfry
#

Breaking bad reference.

pseudo fiber
midnight wyvern
dapper coyote
#

WE FOUND IT, JOHN TAC AXE.

calm shard
#

It's just a bad tactical axe? I'm not sure I understand

naive needle
#

Would the infantry lasgun also want to drop /60% on stability?

#

Or mobility?

turbid ibex
#

Mobility

#

Pretty sure there arent any weapons that want stability dump

calm shard
#

The helbore?

#

it's literally the gun we were talking about?

naive needle
#

infantry lasgun not helbore

turbid ibex
#

Oh i didnt saw that

naive needle
#

oh, yeah

turbid ibex
#

Also didnt know helbore wanted stability dump either

#

Or didnt remember that

naive needle
#

Recon I presume would be collateral

calm shard
#

yes

naive needle
#

Not been a fan of the recon lasguns I have used but I suppose collecting a good one if I see it and having it there isn't a bad idea

midnight wyvern
#

cuz you dont use much ammo with shocktrooper/surgical anyway

turbid ibex
midnight wyvern