#veteran-class
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Oh
Uprising difficulty, intern on a controller showcase
Those are prob heavy atks
classic 
Light into heavy
yeah that was a very lame clip
still manages to get hit btw
The stab is prob heavy
I hope the shivs get flesh tester or lacerate
I hope they get 6 impact blessings
and perfect block too
Why does dclaw has so many impact blessings
New blessing that turns impact to rending fr fr
It's funny
Blunt baton ass weapon
watching the guy get shanked because he switched to his guns instead of his shivs lol
His toughness broke
what are ya aiming at man
Makes me wonder how long he was fighting those poxwalkers without getting toughness
Seems to be dual daggers from vt
Which were fun
can we get FS to put some like actual gameplay smh smh
I'm guessing no coherency plus like minimum talents for rocket launcher

We'll get real gameplay on friday
and then watch as ChocoB or Cole or something plays the exact same
Like "was it no talent points?" "Do they have no passive toughess Regen like ewew"
I cannot say I find the video to be awe inspiring
would be very funny if HIVe ganger just doesn't get toughness
tbf the dev gameplay always makes classes look like shit
No toughness for you
they made arbi and exterm shotguns look like shit somehow
I agree atp
I just want it to have some skill expression
gameplay video so bad all the testers were fucking baffled lmfaooooo
I remember they were all like "The fuck?"
Remember when they devs walked off the map on rolling steel
No that sounds hilarious
And another time on mercantile at the beaching wall part
I'm betting ganger is gonna have a lot of skill expression and it's gonna attract good players who can utilize it and god awful toxic players who can't rn
what gameplay thing are we talking about for HS?
Hell y4eah
Did they suicide?
shanks
Iirc they placed the charge then backed up, getting ledged
looks like L4D2 gameplay
Who are they paying to make these videos?

Someone said KF3 earlier and tbh I see it
they're not paying the poor guy š š š
Tbh that should've been evident on a rewatch, that's on me.
The poor guy was forced to play whilst never having touched a video game in their life
Got me giggling
Trash horde
And it's a slow stab too
also they used rocket launcher on a trash horde
why would they do that to the horse
There was a cool rat in the corner of their eye.
console gaming
why not show it off on a monstrosity since theyāre obviously on the hidden sedition dev difficulty
Knife heavy stab has more killing intent than whatever that was
tbf their stab totally whiffed
The animation itself feels not impactful
Needs a bit more speed
Maybe it will feel more impactful once we get extra attack speed
Bro was clearly not playing Ruffian
Cool looks neat
its an special set of skills to miss that badly
Ref do something, he has 2 300 pound Berettas on his side
Oh yeah
That's what I'm going to name my Hiver
Isagi
Just because dual wielding
Feels like played on a controller by a boomer.
@Darktide40K Does she get a maid outfit like the Hive Scum food truck lady from the ciaphas cain novels?
@LoudenWoodworth @Darktide40K Itās only a couple of lines in Duty Calls but sheās a fun character.
Welp, bro's onto something
Even has a source to back it up
only if guys can wear it too
Do the guys also get to wear the maid outfit? if so, then
What is UP with the marketing being this ass for this class ššš
Arbites did not have these issues ššš
Martyr or Piety for shroud DS zealot?
Tbf Arby's was also going to be on Rogue Trader
Which is like huge gaming rep
Was?
I thought it did come to RT
and that together with arbites coming to DT lead me to believe it is part of their marketing for some arbites units for tabletop
Is the Laspistol usable?
I'm kinda sad that we got hive ganger and not some cold trader. It's cool, but no xeno weapons
Hive Ganger is so ass š
What is blue lock even about bruh
Literally who wanted it???
now I really doubt we'll ever get a cold trader
I wanted a Mechanicus character as a summoner
Why is there a 1911 in the background of a football manga
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Amerika
2 world wars
it is great
Ref do something
He summoned 2 300 pounds Beretta
I only use the green variants of weapons because they have to match with my cadian armor
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yeah p good
no, it is lame as fuck
Mechanics are interesting though
drugs are cool
mobility is cool
dual wielding is cool
I need a fit check in the name of the Emperor
It also means we prob wonāt be getting cold trader in this game
I think Cold Trader was always kinda a longshot
drugs are bad mkay
I think it's still a possibility
yeah :(
I like the idea but I don't see us getting xenos weapons tbh
that means...
This is Elysian, not Cadian
Elysian/10
Itās nice tho
Yeah it matches
It's a better regiment anyway
But I'm not a big fan of elysian
Cadian color scheme and I needed a change of pace from my usual
D-99 my goats
maybe Eldar have their own "shorty" rejects and they just send them over to Brahms
Well it is one of the last scum of socieity that would fit with rejects
basically a smuggler
but of specific kind
Oh you know what you should try
skill issue
I donāt have mods
Ive considered buying that one
Idgaf
This my dude rn
I have that armor too!!
Iām sure itās actually good, itās just fatshart gameplay and the combination of a shit trailer on top
Like this ngl
got your lips out incase you gotta kiss someone in an emergency
Idc about the gameplay tbh. Itās a very lame character imo
Yea this black grenadier armor goes hard
I have it, itās very nice
Outside of the grenade belt clipping into arms when holding some weapons in loadout menu
Iād look into Necromunda stuff if you havenāt, itās really cool
There isnāt a green flashlight helm but theres a Kasrkin camo one
What regiment is that?
Ur dude looks like that guy at the start of black ops 2
Bakkan Irregulars
It's a recolor of the Truskan uniform
Agreed, I'd buy it if I could accept giving the fomo shop money.
Iāve been rocking the Veteranās Sentry for a while before I bought the drop troop armor
Honestly after they started doing 2 sets + hat bundle I donāt mind it as much
6 sets being available at once is cool
Yeah I still holding strong against it
It's defo better than it was
I think people who bitch about the shop are just as annoying as the whales who buy everything
It can be better for sure
But damn I want to buy even more now
Elysians are one of my favorite regiments and I still won't buy their armor tbh
Specially psyker stuff
But it is way better than 3 sets available at once and all 3 being jackets for veteran
Lmfao real
Istg FS has some sorta uncanny obsession with giving veteran jackets
Hey guys have 3 reskinned tanker jackets
Whats that? You want another 3?
Don't mind if we do.
Veteran needs more good full armor cosmetics
Wait
So the armor is Elysian
Yes
I thought Cadians also had drop troops
Not in that style
Sorta but theyāre not known for it and not in that fit
Awh man
I would 100% fold over some armored cosmetics
I love looking bulky af
The fact we still donāt have classic Cadian armor in the game is CRIMINAL
I didnāt like this as much before but then I realized the secret sauce is the beard
Clean shave looks horrible with this helmet
We kinda do?
Tbh they have to sell me something that looks cooler than Havoc gear which they seem to have yet to do
Just, not in Cadian colours 
Actually
I demand proper Cadian armor
Yk what I want as armor more than anything in the world for vet?
Exactly
Classic Inquisitorial Stormtroopers(it will not happen)
Thereās Cadian light armor and Cadian heavy armor
Cadian light armor has clothing render issues in 3rd person
Cadian heavy armor has weird arm textures in 1st person
They were the perfect design and GW murdered them for scions
Itās fcked up how the game that represents my boys and girls in green the best⦠you canāt even play as them
best fatshark can do Ig
Its more fucked up how many vet cosmetics have cadia written on them
Thereāre multiple Cadian armors in the game tho
That genuinely is one of the things that stops me from buying shit
Just not 1 thatās āstandard Cadian fitā
Is how many cadian specific armors they have
The Kasrkin gear?
Peak
Yea
I know, I have alot of Cadian Armor
I just really want the kit with the khaki pants & undercoat
With that said I still think the black grenadier heavy armor is the best looking one
Stygian smth smth
Itās Cadian pattern
Imo the best representation my favorite faction has had was in Space Marine 2
Vet isnt even the only one with a dumb amount of cadian stuff, Og has it too
this one actually never came out
I have the shittier version of it tho
they have the camo one
I think you just hate Cadia
Those cadians can unpin themselves from the basic nids
But our Cutthroat can't get a dog out of him
but htis one was datamined on release and never actually made it into shop
#ourcutthroatnotrealcadian
I genuinely do and this game is one of the reasons why
L
Itās ok to have bad tastes ig
Another 500 Barquette rerun
Fwiw I dislike Krieg way more than Cadia
Mainly cause I've met too many red armband krieg people
Cutthroat can however tank 1,689,762,125,211+ hotshot lasgun shots without trouble
I have this one
Or an Ogryn attack

Mutie slam
This is good
Love the pouches
fanny pack ahhh cosmetic
Im going to store my ammunition on center mass
So when the enemy shoots at my center mass theyāll hit my ammo and Iāll explode
Idk what an FFG is
Fantasy Flight Games
They made like Deathwatch, Only War, Dark Heresy(game Darktide is based on loosely), and Black Crusade
And Rogue Trader fwiw
Tldr they have an ammo cook off mechanic like that and it brought back memories
I know of them but havenāt played them yet
certified Battletech⢠moment
No but you see
You're denying them from scavenging ammo from your dead body
Actually giga brain move
Ey yo welcome back @hasty grove
I disappeared off the face of the internet for a bit. Wasnāt doing well mentally
Thank you
1 hp 1 stam 1 toughness
not taking hp is pretty rough on vet
because there are a lot of things that bypass toughness
and vet has low hp
guess I can try
How does smoke grenade work and does they work agains bosses?
you also want at least one sniper res
It helps to mitigate the damage pretty noticeably even in Auric
yeah def
getting shot by a sniper really sucks
but it's been very rare for me
also i'm not reaching the 200 hp breakpoint anyway
it only happens
cuz vet base stats are ass
when I don't fucking hear the queue.
I am learning this the hard way honestly
I am so tired of that sound bug
friendly dragging the shot into me 
is gunner really that necessary on auric
considering I don't go hand to hand with them
more willing to take revive speed considering how many times my teammates go down
it's honestly the most important damage resistance imo
if you feel like you're fine without it, don't run it
i personally take 2 gunner resist
Gunner is really important since havoc either throws a million gunners or 18 snipers covering angle from here to Wisconsin
You throw where you're going to be in 2 seconds or at your feet
It works against Beast of Nurgle
As it'll have to get closer for puking
When in doubt
Stay in the smoke
Staying in the smoke also circumvents the visibility issue
What about throwing it on clumps of ranged enemies
Also works as long as they're in the smoke and they'll have to reposition.
That being said.
It won't stop them from shooting if they're already in the middle of a salvo.
But they won't adjust their aim towards you while their vision is blocked.
Meaning, don't just stand still.
Also it used to block dogs and flamers, is that still the case?
Dogs don't really care. Flamers have to reposition.
i thought smoke fucks with dog ai too
i mean, it does
but it's really, really inconsistent from my experience
and not worth banking on
Dog ai fucks with dog ai
You can defo tell they're fucked with assassin rats sometimes
fair
Flamers and trappers though. Way more consistent on those.
Only thing is uh
Trappers can uh
Be a good and bad thing
Because they'll reposition to be point blank with you so if you're not wary and they manage to close the distance, it is much harder to dodge them.
I think Trappers have "killed" me more than any enemy
The ol trapper flamer combo
Can't see what you're trying to shoot cause flamers are so obnoxious
Mashing ping
Good times
yeah honestly the biggest reason flamers are dangerous
is because they just fucking blind you
the fire damage is less of a threat than you suddenly just can't see shit
well obviously they use same ai basis
assassins i think my fav specials from VT
Agreed
so funny sometimes
My favorite special in VT is probably the beastmen that charge at you
I love bulltrueing them
Counter charge them with BULL OF OSTLAND
DEATH TRAAAAAAAAAIN
and the push back
the push back is so unbelievably obnoxious
Agreed
Flamers might actually be my second least favorite special after bombers
Mutants are my least favorite by far
Ik
I hate those bastards so much.
We've talked about you hating them cause of the throw
Cause I said they're whatever cause you can back up into walls
I will say muties are a fat nothing burger when you play arby with their stupid dog
You ever get thrown into a snipers 360 no scope
That shit pisses me off lol
Try nine of them
Lmfao vent purge snipers?
Mutants are whatever for me but
I always ran guns that killed them well
Like I'd rather be hit by a mutie than a trapper or a dog
Reason I love double barrel so much is because it just nukes the fuckers on a braced shot
Idk, bombers are annoying as fuck
I think they cause a lot of death spirals in teams that don't deal with them
i got thrown into dogs surprisingly often
another reason for me to hate dogs
disgusting creatures
curses on whoever made that stupid trope of "all gods are good boys"
He should see people ripped apart by homeless dog packs
wait hold on
gunner resistance
is it the special gunners
or all enemies with guns
Itās specifically reaper and the scab/dreg gunner elites, but not the stalkers (trash mobs with guns)
Is that why stalkers still rip you a new asshole?
Cause they're partially melee coded
oh yea resist curios are multiplicative, and not additive for their resistances
just in case you didnāt know
yea
dreg/scab gunner
reaper
then i still see no point picking that up as vet
Best way to do no melee damage penance?
Be paranoid and run VoC with gold toughness subnode
Or jump off a ledge and get carried, iirc that still works?
Doesnt ledge kill you after a bit
Im struggling a bit but willing to try soloing it for now, but thats a kind offer!
Mostly just asking for advice
Yes, but it isnt melee damage
Oh lol
proper toughness management
VoC for insurance
and speedrun
So a suicide vet that sits it out will get the feat i see xD
I can help u do it in 15 mins prob
Appreciated, dmāing

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Canāt wait for Loose Cannon Veteran to be buying ALL of the Hive Scumsā drugs when they arrive on the Mourningstar
Buying is a strong word
His intro to picking loose cannon is literally him robbing a store house so you think heāll be buying and not stealing the stims
I find it amusing that ironically, the hive scum are probably gonna be stronger than loose cannon
.
So them getting robbed straight up would be off the table by power scaling since they're probably gonna be stronger than vet for a time lmao
No no no, loose cannon uses infiltrate and grabs all the stims and gets the hell outta there in 16 seconds
Wdym stronger
Gameplay? Or lore
Gameplay.
I really doubt it
You think so?
Yea
I wouldn't be surprised if it was, a tad overtuned even compared to the current roster.
I really doubt it
Maybe hiver will be upgrade of zealot
But I doubt being stronger than vet
god i can't wait for all the recon las vets to switch to HIVe ganger
I legit think that skill will attract the worst players in dt
I can see them popping it and dying almost immediately now
one mod did say the debuff for the one ability is absolutely horrendous once it ends
Did they elaborate or nah?
I imagine we're both talking about infinite ammo
whatever that one rampage skill is that lasts for like 30 seconds
Thatās rampage
No. Rampage
Thereās a debuff after it expires
Which is rampage?
Melee ult
They got that falchion design mindset
Lmao
That sounds about right tbh
Ammo share is gonna be their survivalist
Its gonna be the mandatory aura you get flamed for not taking
Thereās no chance hvs is better than vet lol
I mean the class
Donāt think hvs will be better than vet
Maybe zealot but still doubt
Oh
Canāt say more
I don't think HS and Vet are comparable
From what I've seen
Idk why everyone looked at them and went "vet dead vet dead"
Every single person saying that has no idea how vet even plays
I agree
I think they step on zealots toes more from what I've seen
But I ofc haven't played them
because your average player is stupid
It doesnāt take a genius to figure out why vet is 2nd best class rn
It's basically zealot but ranged
With a side of drugs
And a big ass 2 second delay bazooka
Oh lord well there goes that build idea lmao, time to just run and gun
And as we all know
DT is a melee game at heart
There's a talent for sprint dodge
And in the code there's a blessing for sprint dodge
So maybe
Just maybe
You can do some funny stuff
I never tried Plasma Gun, does it still blow up in your face and down you if you reach 100%
I wanna try it on an Exe stance build
Only with charge shots, which you should never use
got it
it's good, stance makes its 1 taps a lot better in havoc
Is exestance Plas good against Twins
want to beat it on Auric with a friend with ti
Or do I stick to WS Bpistol and knife VoC
honestly, anything works
twins hard mode got nerfed
and vet now has ~70% more dmg than before on avg
not even hard mode
tbh
I just know last time we failed because my entire team got downed in 2 seconds halfway through
and then I nearly clutched
@steel veldt dont use plasma on rotten armour modifier for ur own sanity
basically I slid a second to late and a sniper hit me against a wall
and cucked me with a mauler
Why?
Isn't it don't use ANY ranged weapon against rotten armour?
Nah I feel like I could helbore it
On rotten armour ur mostly shooting ranged units and specials for which there are better guns to do so
Xd fact
level 700 Ogryn
gets trap'd randomly and we all lose
okay
And he is a level 700 Ogryn where he got outdamaged boss wise by a Vet
Levels dont correspond to skill level
If anything very high levels are usually not as good
Its mostly people running meme builds and playing for fun
Dude had a pickaxe and grenade launcher
I think he was playing meta
only thing he had that wasn't meta was bull rush
Pickaxe isnt meta then again idk not ogryn main
Meta this meta that
I run pickaxe on ogryn i wouldnt consider it meta myself shield and power maul seem way stronger
Pickaxe is og meta iirc
Well my teammates judge me for bringing it to h40 so idk
To me the shield is "meta" 
Shield is the way to go
If u cant protect lil uns what r u doing
And sides its rumbler and gauntlet from my experience
Rumbler good for mixed hordes gauntlet amazing all rounder
Rumbler struggles with special sniping
and twin linked stubber for the memes

Funny ogryn go brr
Meta this meta that, you ever met a lady ogryn?
I thought Ogryns were non binary
Do I have to post the cursed 40k lore post
Also only techpriests are binary
pickaxe is best og dps melee
Is this build alright? Weapons are Agripinaa IAG and Mk7 DCS
i'd suggest dropping tinkerer, o4b and ET
to take skirmisher, AE, and exploit weakness (dclaw really needs these)
with VOC and CK you should have more than enough toughness regen
also i don't think it's worth pathing for mag size
better to path on the left for stam regen delay and killzone
tinkerer is only necessary on kraks if you are going into high havoc
otherwise skirmisher will give you one-shot crusher breakpoint
o4b?
out 4 blood
yeh
I went for mag size because Agripinaa has a small mag, and not Kill Zone because I often get ganked when I ADS, cant stay out of melee for long
well up to you, but agri honestly already has a pretty decent mag size imo
it has the largest of all the combat shotguns
and good reload speed
Oh Im using the IAG Agripinaa
OH lmao
but that one also has a very fast reload
and 0.5 stam regen delay is very helpful for your defenses / parrying
does exploit weakness's damage increase apply for ranged weapon as well?
yes
its a global damage buff
it affects all outgoing damage, even grenades
can I 1shot a crusher with that buff without Tinkerer?
ngl idk
Not with rot armor ime
you just need skirmisher unless you're in havoc
oof that's pretty silly
yeah
forgot that it was global
so skirmisher and EW combined are an easy to proc and long lasting 45% global damage
and somehow people think vet got left behind
when before this update ew was a useless amt of brittleness and skirmisher was god awful and never picked
I wish Crushers werent so dominant in Havoc
If Havoc builds werent centered around countering Crusher spam Id play Havoc too
the spawnrates are having to compete with how strong certain weapons are, powersword, duelling sword, relic blade, etc
people are going to be running those anyway so its the only way to attempt to challenge them
Idk why those just couldnt be nerfed or reworked
because rather than toning down the stuff thats too strong (people will throw fits)
the enemies have to match that power
the game got review bombed when there was a leak saying that a duelling sword rework was in the works
the game got review bombed when power sword went from 4-7 charges to 1-3 charges
crazy how vet has shit like this, and yet psyker is stronger lol
like thats the playerbase theyre dealing with
damn alright that sounds like a very mature gamer thing to do
it is very mature
right
but enough people do it to where it actively harms the devs every time, so its better for them to just try to avoid that
I think the dual barrel should go through bulwark shields and have 4 shots
helldivers and its consequences
I genuinely don't understand why peoppe want buff everything balance
Its how we end up in the meta we're in
Where good weapons are good and bad ones are completely unusable
You'll also end up in warframe numbers. Million hp enemies taking 100k damage a hit.
and no amount of buffs to the lesser performing ones will help them catch up
Dclaw parry should 2 tab crushers

Heavy sword should have 100% rending
Shreder autopistol should do 300 damage
ngl with how slow Crushers attacks are, 2 tapping them with parry would be fair
u gotta wait for them to bring that hammer down to parry
this make be a hot take but i also play a fair bit of warframe
it works for warframe because thats just the kind of game warframe is meant to be
you play it to grind for drops, watch the numbers go up, create really goofy builds that break the game
darktide has much more involved combat with tons of mechanical depth and skill expression to explore (whereas warframe is more numbers and stat setups), so the only buff approach on balance only invalidates the reason the game exists in the first place
DS dependents:
I agree, tbh I just make the warframe comparison cause in a buff only ecosystem I see numbers eventually scaling to almost unquantifable levels.
Its so weird to me how bad DS feels in DT but Saltz Rapier feels in VT
flimsy sword touches Carapace-armored Ogryn and it dies
this will be darktide in 2026
Isnt dueling sword supposed to be designed for unarmored dueling in a civilian context š
God, I don't think I've played warframe since planes of eidolon, why are you a mushroom?
newest warframe
mushroom frame
Nice
Psyker in 2026 reaches Risk of Rain 2 level of map-wiping
My starter frame was loki, if that dates my warframe time for you.
meanwhile autogun vets struggle to find an enemy thats not already dead so they can finally land a headshot šŖ
i started in like 2015
finished the starting quest
then came back in like mid 2022
I started idek when, my homie got me into it freshman year of HS
I think that was 2012?
im currrently mr 35
i think from the low 20s to 30 is like 3x the amount from 0 to 20
I believe that
Its a game about grinding
Gotta have something to grind
Was a Nekros main cause of that
wheres my dope ass octavia song
They added more
Thats pretty neat tbh, not bad on the ears
its optimal too
I remember her coming out when I was quitting
theres now 2 music frames 
octavia and temple
temple is a rock star frame with a concious infested guitar that doubles as an exalted weapon flamethrower
At least they haven't run out of ideas yet tbh
you line up your use of abilities to the metronome under your crosshair
I'll give them that
cant forget all of the music theyre making
Everytime someone asks me to play WF I have no fucking idea whats going on anymore tbh
There's simply so much to do
the mission where you get that frame is a defense where you defend said frame
oh did i mention youre defending them as they perform this and you hear it throughout the mission
The new song from Techrot Encore, "Lamenting the Days" has stage dived out of Warframe! Listen to the latest track on YouTube now created in collaboration with Mark Holcomb and Jake Bowen of the band Periphery, with support from Elliot Coleman as well as the Warframe Sound team!
CREDITS:
Composer(s)
Jake Bowen, Mark Holcomb
Producer
Jake Bow...
yeah we hit "what the fuck is happening" levels years ago
Ngl this is pretty cool
not anymore
Mom's back
the 1999 soundtrack is so good
Also there's children?
Tbh thats kinda when the game jumped the shark dor me and I went "wtf is happening"
thats more when they actually kickstarted a plot rather than just the game solidifying the current setting
Idek where we are now tbh
we've ran circles around that by now
I think i heard about 1999 but havent played since
wat exactly is 1999 lol
like what is the update?
wow this is a lot longer than i thought itd be
1999 like the one gacha game?
no like the warframe
cutting things super duper short and assuming you have basically no warframe knowledge
at the very end of the sentient storyline which concludes with the new war quest, if you dont know what that is it doesnt matter really
at the very of that quest the next major story thing happens when you see the man in the wall, which is some sort of void based entity (void is the source of warframe powers basically)
trying to figure out what the fuck it was sends you and your alternate timeline self from new war looking for answers, and the answers likely lie with this scientist guy named entrati who was involved by name and influence in a couple of previous quests
couple of other story quests happen, and youre narrowing in on where he is, only to find hes in some sort of alternate timeline(?) thing, currently in the year of 1999, within the country of hollvania
said country just so happens to have an outbreak of an unknown physical virus infecting and growing via technology called techrot, and a totalitarian military force that took over by raw force fighting the infestation while also exerting their rule on the population
theres also these "proto-frames", which are human/warframe hybrids apparently created by entrati by tricking them with a "cure" (entrati is a fucking dickweed asshole btw), who are targeted by that military force and labeled as terrorists cuz theyre like half techrot kinda
damn that's wild
no wonder i have no idea waht the fuck was going on
idk whats going on but god damn does the music sound awesome
whats the build to make reconds good? i heard they were viable now (ive been away for over a year)
honestly the important things are
dumdum and infernus on the recon, with a crit chance perk and damage perk of your choosing
shock trooper for near infinite ammo
reciprocity for tons of free crit chance
and onslaught if you want it to be kinda eh at dealing with crushers (a good armor dmg melee would be preferable compared to it)
keystones can be focus target or weapon specialist, MMF doesnt help it much at all
weapon specialist may be cheaper to reach cuz of onslaught and all the other great general use nodes there
do you have a Darktide.gameslantern build i could look at? much easier that way
not really because theres too many options you can take that are personal preference
thats fair
every ability works
every grenade works
every aura works
multiple keystone choices
multiple spare points to throw around wherever youd like
it kinda sustains itself with these nodes
is CIAG still the top IAG?
Its the Vraks now but yeah
i was never really fond of Vraks. what makes it better?
Names of a bunch of weapons changed
all hellbore marks, some psyker staves, and a few others I canāt remember
what the fudge knuckles
Its still the mk5
Just to be consistent with lore is my only guess
The short blue one
This thing
Psykers still using ātraumaā and āpurgā for the staves comes to mind lol
Nothing changed but the family name
It still is they just swapped the name because GW is a company of all time
so the MKVIII or MKV
still mkV
power sword still op
i thought it was pretty decent, but im a sucker for chainswords
power sword? does the alternate attack still stick on the first target?
ive avoided the power weapons because i dont like getting them stuck on a random mob when theres a crusher or something else in front of me
power sword doesnāt latch onto enemies
Power sword has goofy cleave any (real) way you run it
looks like ima give the power sword a try
If itās not powered itās a wet noodle and you will suffer
i figured as much
whats the better recon MK?
whats the difference between the PSword and PFalchion?
PFalchion functions somewhat similarly to the zealotās relic blade, with a heat gauge.
PSword can be activated, giving you the ability to do powered swings/attacks for I believe 3 times before it runs out of energy and needs to be activated again.
Power sword powered is also just an entire dimension stronger than power falchion
i like the PFalchion, i'll still give the PSword a shot, but so far its a big boot to fill
It will fill it
It's a little awkward to use but the damage difference is unignorable
Along with Sunder's inherently busted cleave
Moveset
For falchion, mk1 is objectively the best
for sword, mk6 is objectively the best
yea so far, ye olde chainsword has lost the competition
much as i enjoy ripping and tearing, the results just arent there anymore
Youāre not wrong. Being able to take on crushers 1v1 with relative ease is why I bring power sword always. Honestly, any sort of mixed horde is gonna be cut down pretty fast.
ok, you guys were right, the PSword is better. im not a fan of how sluggish it is compared to the PFalchion, but its a beast for sure
Give me a power sword long enough and I could cleave atoma in twain
what blessings does it need?
Cycler and Sunderer iirc
so what perks should i put on the recon las? right now i have Flak/Elites
flak/unyielding + crit
Aye
i prefer unyielding because fuck bulwarks
I prefer it cause i tbh do not feel a difference on flak kills
how many times can you change perks?
unlimited now
same with blessings
old shit system got nuked
except for curios ig
understandable
so this is what im working with right now
i legit just got the PSword off Brunts, so i know its not the most ideal right now
i didnt change the perks on the PSword because i only have T1 perks right now for it
dont miss?
Take off survivalist
aw fuck you're so right
Use a low ammo count gun
thank you actually
ooh good point
Guessing basically, I donāt know any mods that show live accuracy
Just run dbarrel weapon spec and play super wastefully
The way that build plays you never miss
there was a mod at one point I think, but guesswork works well enough
count the shots you miss and make sure you hit more to make up for them
I got the penance accidentally when I was playing dbarrel and realized I hadn't missed all mission
So i just shot every poxwalker I saw in end event and got it
dont do what my friend did and use recon las till he got it passively
switch ts to mk vi rn bro 
Level one is just not worth using I can't lie
good idea
recon lasgun pretty fun
Fellas
238 hp 210 toughness
Or
205 hp 246 toughness
Any ideas on how to make Vraks Braced autogun build? Not for havoc, mind. I'm never playing that shit. Lol.
Like, what blessings and such.
TOUGHNESS
Allways tghnss
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PpdEIvKdtmo
How Cadian vets see themselves: š£ļø
Warhammer TV - Hammer and Bolter - Return to Cadia
A squad of Cadians return to a shrine honouring their shattered home world, only to find it desecrated.
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Cadians having to go 5 minutes without saying the word "Cadia".

Health if havoc
Toughness if not
So either
Stam hp toughness for havoc
Or stam 2x toughness for auric and below
Use the infantry lasgun normally, can't decide if the helbore is worth trying..
Charge time puts me off a bit but otherwise lower rate of fire isn't something I would mind
Or just play with hp tg and stam all the time tbh
It is but if you're on pc the auto charge when aiming mod is a game changer imho
Thats what I do now cuz of havoc
Cba to swap
How do they compare for ammo efficiency
hellbore has infinite ammo
they're both in the camp of "It's a lasgun they have infinite ammo with shocktrooper"
So about the same really
I haven't struggled for ammo with infantry lasgun either tbh so that makes sense
Helbore has slightly less ammo efficiency out of the box but much better crit for shock trooper cuz this is like the best gun for surgical
Cuz it builds stacks as you charge it up while aiming
it's very hard to drop below 700 ammo in reserve
Ohh yeah looking at surgical that sounds nice
Is there a way to see your crit chance
and modifiers to it
Again if you're on PC the display crit chance mod
Should probably look into mods
They're good
Wondering what else would go well with surgical. Is it likely to stagger big guys if you used falter? Small guys should just die so no need to stagger them. Hot-shot to cut through multiple small guys is another thought but won't make any difference when shooting at big guys
lasgun so no stagger
wtf is the point in falter then
it used to apply to your melee weapon too
but that was a "bug" that needed to be fixed
hot-shot also used to apply to your melee weapon
Ahh, can see some more use in some of them in that case if it applies across both weapons
but hot-shot is like actually useful for the gun itself too
so
not worth it on Mk IV because that gun needs weight of fire
but IIIa and V can use it
Can't easily try each variant yet as I have no mastery in the weapon
So if it has no stagger, I guess aim for a gun with /60% stopping power and /80% everything else
stopping power is not stagger
it is armor damage
collateral is the stagger stat on guns
helbore dumps stability
Ok, so /60% stability
yeah
Shame, shop only has stopping power, dmg and charge rate right now. Avoiding losing out on those
Although might just buy a cheap one to try out for a few missions
Gets some mastery I guess, but also not a fair representation to compare the maxed out infantry lasgun I have to a cheap helbore lasgun
Question for Helbore lasgun: is stopping power 60 good?
I think the answer there was no, as its armour damage
no
dump charge rate, embrace eternity
Gaslighting.
no that is legitimately not good to dump
if you read the chat, someone had just told you what stopping power did
which is armour damage
stopping power is armor damage on a gun famous for its comically high armor damage
Didn't know they were talking to me... lol
so no, if that wasn't clear
they weren't
its just information
use it
someone break into fatshark HQ and change their calenders to 2nd of dec man
give me the british cosplayer already
nuh uh
I am incredibly impatient
My life is boring at this time of year
Go into hibernation or replay an old game in the meantime.
allegedly, we get testers videos out tomorrow?
Just hope that they've found a good niche for the ganger to fill.
I'd be shocked if it was supportive.
yeah god it's not like the blog post advertised one of the most support focused trees that this game has ever seen or anything
based entirely around giving your teammates custom stimm effects
The creator NDA is tomorrow yeah
neat
Nice. Thought it'd be more aggro focused.
I hope the rocket launcher can heal

I hope the other classes have reactions to getting shanked by the HS with a dirty syringe
if you can even do that
I do hope their stimm works like normal stimms, just with their designed effect
I believe it does
Breaking bad reference.
Inject that Magnus strain cadian dust laced stim into a psyker and watching them instantly die

WE FOUND IT, JOHN TAC AXE.
It's just a bad tactical axe? I'm not sure I understand
infantry lasgun not helbore
Oh i didnt saw that
oh, yeah
Recon I presume would be collateral
yes
Not been a fan of the recon lasguns I have used but I suppose collecting a good one if I see it and having it there isn't a bad idea
pretty sure the lifelong debate was stab or ammo dump
cuz you dont use much ammo with shocktrooper/surgical anyway
Ye i just forgot about helbore


