#veteran-class

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fresh spire
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How much more difficult is H30+ vs 25-30? I’ve only played 30 a couple times and it was easy, not sure about later

burnt pelican
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theres a reason people above 30 dont add people that arent 40

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most of the time

calm shard
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oh also don't quit the psykhanium with rotten armor enemies alive

regal smelt
calm shard
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they crash the game

regal smelt
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I think there's a spike somewhere because of one modifier havoc changes but thats it

hybrid plover
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There is a big difference between 29 to 30

barren nimbus
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tbh some havoc 40's can be easier than havoc 25

burnt pelican
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30+ theres a shit ton more ogryns thats for sure

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shit ton

burnt pelican
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all it takes is 1 mentally challenged player to make a havoc 20 feel like 30+

hybrid plover
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Eh. Some rotten armor 20-30s can also feel worse than 30-40 without too

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There's a variety of factors that play into this

burnt pelican
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its not just them running it down and dying its also them triggering extra waves by doing so

hybrid plover
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But typically

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30-40 should be harder if not for the modifiers because of the lack of "Tension" mechanic

burnt pelican
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fading light 2 u mean?

hybrid plover
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Yes.

tall torrent
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push combo

burnt pelican
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everyone keeps talking about powersword on vet I rl should try it

barren nimbus
hybrid plover
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Even in 20-30, there's a limit as to what the AI director can do. Reason Rotten Armor is so aggregious is because it feels like it ignores that limitation so that's a statistic outlier

tall torrent
hybrid plover
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30-40 is where the AI director goes "fuck it"

burnt pelican
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im a single target combat knife enjoyer and idk why

barren nimbus
burnt pelican
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the freaking reach keeps getting me killed

hybrid plover
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Power sword is outright the strongest vet weapon lol

barren nimbus
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The arbites maul is maybe a little worse than a powersword but is far more survivable

tall torrent
hybrid plover
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I just personally don't like how it feels

burnt pelican
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why do I do this to myself why cant I just bring tac axe or ds and be happy

hybrid plover
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Dueling sword overrated

burnt pelican
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yes it needs a buff

barren nimbus
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It does feel kinda bad now

hybrid plover
tall torrent
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arb maul is 1/3 of power sword's carapace dps

hybrid plover
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Arby's maul is not good at Cara damage

tall torrent
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and slower mixed horde

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and worse dodge (yea)

barren nimbus
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Do I run carapace on power sword now

tall torrent
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obv

barren nimbus
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Do I still need maniac to one shot mutants

tall torrent
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no

calm shard
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I don't think its ever needed that...

barren nimbus
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I thought thats why people ran maniac

tall torrent
hybrid plover
regal smelt
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thats like a powersword mk 3 thing

barren nimbus
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o

hybrid plover
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Because it wasn't sauced enough with vet tree

barren nimbus
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What are you relying on now? skirmisher?

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Where is that damage coming from

hollow ibex
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like half the nodes on the bottom right lol

barren nimbus
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I always ran them though

tall torrent
hybrid plover
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Even focus target helps actually

hollow ibex
stable socket
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i don't know any of the mk6 powersword combos except light spam for horde and push light light for single target but with a good frontline it doesn't really matter, i ran it in a h40 rotten armor with taunt ogryn + shock mine arbi and it performed insanely well into basically everything. with that level of control it was basically like psykhanium where i would just kill an immobile target with every combo

calm shard
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yeah

barren nimbus
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in h40

hybrid plover
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You just need to play to its strengths and be wary of its weaknesses

tall torrent
hybrid plover
barren nimbus
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I honestly hate all of veterans primaries which is my issue

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maybe bolt pistol and power sword is the move

tall torrent
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use them more then

hybrid plover
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How dare you say that about shovel.

tall torrent
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or gaslight urself into liking them

calm shard
barren nimbus
tall torrent
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boltpistol is also gaslighter pro max

hybrid plover
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Extremely.

barren nimbus
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Like people were saying that burst rifle was good but it is horrible

hybrid plover
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Agri CS is unironically one of the best guns in the game rn

barren nimbus
hybrid plover
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And unlike a lot of weapons

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You have

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Get this.

calm shard
hybrid plover
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Actual, choices with blessing setups

barren nimbus
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what do you run on your slug shotgun thats actually a sniper

burnt pelican
barren nimbus
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carapace and flak?

tall torrent
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carapace not worth on most ranged weapons

calm shard
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good ol' flak maniac

tall torrent
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it's kind of a melee-exclusive perk atm

barren nimbus
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Figured, but he was shooting maulers, arent they carapace chest

burnt pelican
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any weapons as of right now with rotten armour being in every game

silver patrol
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They are FlaK chest

burnt pelican
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literally infested the havoc this season

silver patrol
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Carapace head

tall torrent
regal smelt
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cara vigilant auto funny

stable socket
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is that scattershot manstopper that's providing the cleave?

barren nimbus
calm shard
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manstopper full bore

tall torrent
calm shard
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easy enough to get crit chance on a gun build from deadshot

tall torrent
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like

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kinda incredible tbh

calm shard
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shotguns are perfect for deadshot too

burnt pelican
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scab ragers are flak head car chest maulers are the opposite

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ppbl confused the two

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happens

hybrid plover
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I mean there was also calling vigil auto "horrible"

tall torrent
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ya

hybrid plover
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When it's actually quite good right now

tall torrent
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idk how u get this many things wrong in such a short span of time

hybrid plover
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If not a little trickier to use

tall torrent
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it's not tricky whatsoever

barren nimbus
burnt pelican
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uhhhh

hybrid plover
burnt pelican
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uhhhhhhhhh

calm shard
tall torrent
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vig3 is one of the very few weapons that get 1-burst gunner with min spec reliably

hybrid plover
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Thing got gigabuffed recently

burnt pelican
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u keep getting everything wrong lmao its not ur day i guess

calm shard
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the fuckin' 3 round burst one does so much damage even with barely any investment

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just gotta keep your shots on target

burnt pelican
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I use single shot

hybrid plover
tall torrent
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best vig is the 3r burst one

barren nimbus
calm shard
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usually same but the 3 round burst one even on exe

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that thing gets so much ammo

burnt pelican
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yeah 3 shot recoil is crazy

calm shard
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it can one shot and still be ammo efficient on kills just from scavenger alone

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even with the "wasted" shots from overkilling them

tall torrent
hybrid plover
barren nimbus
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The 3 round burst is nearly rng

hybrid plover
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It's pretty consistent to me 🤷‍♀️

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Like it can pull up pretty hard.

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But that's about it as far as my experience using it.

burnt pelican
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@calm shard u use triple tap one?

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ive never tried 3tap in actual games

hybrid plover
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It's da best one

burnt pelican
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idk its recoil go crazy

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ill try

hybrid plover
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Maybe this is just years of FPS experience affecting my thought on this. Aiming center mass helps cuz it let's the recoil ride up to the head pretty often.

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I do that and it works like a charm.

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Just have to get used to it.

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Or

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Run exe stance and stop caring about recoil chadgryn

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And yes as path said

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Standing still helps a lot when you can.

barren nimbus
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I've never tried executioner stance in havoc yet

tall torrent
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stance also makes vet the highest toughness gain of all classes

calm shard
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p sure that one shot bursts an auric gunner?

barren nimbus
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But then your team doesnt get golden toughness

tall torrent
hybrid plover
calm shard
barren nimbus
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Hmm, I'll try it

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I liked it before the rework in auric

tall torrent
barren nimbus
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Whats the good weapon for executioner stance? Just the combat shotgun and burst rifle?

tall torrent
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pretty much every weapon

tall torrent
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it's not a ranged dps ult

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do not think of it as a ranged dps ult

hybrid plover
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Even double barrel greatly benefits from the buffs.

fair shale
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ES is, as I believe Bath said before, Vet Pro Ultra Max++

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It just works

barren nimbus
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Some guns don't get a ton of weakspot hits

calm shard
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exe is the best ranged dps ult in the game, but as path said it is sooooo much more than that

fair shale
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I love popping it to pull out my PS and wade into Ragers tbh

calm shard
burnt pelican
calm shard
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if you want to super invest into gun like I do the instant weapon swap also helps the bolter and helbore a lot

burnt pelican
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congratulations u have infinite toughness regen

barren nimbus
burnt pelican
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ogryn exec stance is rl rl rl good rn

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idk if its voc good but its up there

fair shale
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Its better but harder to use imo

tall torrent
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it's roughly equal

burnt pelican
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voc is better team wise

tall torrent
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VoC is like

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2nd worst support ult in the game atm

burnt pelican
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yellow toughness me likey likey

tall torrent
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almost every other support ult beats VoC in value

calm shard
tall torrent
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taunt is taunt

calm shard
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taunt is crazy shit

tall torrent
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indomitable (bull rush) is biggest fight reset in the game

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chorus is chorus

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BtL is on a shorter CD

calm shard
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yeah chorus obvious bottom 5

tall torrent
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bubble is bubble

hybrid plover
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It's not tbh

tall torrent
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the only support ult VoC is better than, is nuncio aquila

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which rly is not a high bar to pass

hybrid plover
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Shout is mostly good as offensive ability for stagger now.

hollow ibex
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ehhhh

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piss toughness and insta stagger

fair shale
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VoC would be cool if it was WHC Animosity tbh

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Give everyone 25 percent crit chance for a bit

hybrid plover
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Yeah but the lack of uptime hurts its utility quite a lot compared to other choices when you're talking about team value.

burnt pelican
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5 sec nerf was sad

tall torrent
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VoC's biggest value is not necessarily the toughness, but the stagger to reset fights

burnt pelican
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very very sad

calm shard
hybrid plover
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It's still amazing for offensive play but

tall torrent
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it's just that the other classes have better fight-reset ults

hybrid plover
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It has fallen from grace quite a bit from where it used to be.

fair shale
tall torrent
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op

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in DT maybe 10 or 15%

fair shale
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I just think it'd be nice if it did a bit more tbh

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Add a dash of offensive power

tall torrent
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that's better left for vet's 3rd ability

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VoC being a fight-reset button is good enough

fair shale
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Vet has a third ability?

tall torrent
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someday he will

fair shale
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Tbh I cannot remember thr last time I saw someone run stealth vet

stuck gorge
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the only class that can do it

fair shale
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Tbh I wish vets stealth worked more like bardin stealth maybe

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Or even zealots

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Just so they were different in some real capacity

stuck gorge
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infiltrate should pop a smoke at your feet like bardin that affects all teammates, and then he can move freely like kruber

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ez

fair shale
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Sure, it'd be better than it is now

tribal dawn
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I will never stop using the Infantry Lasgun, my beloved.

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"Killshot looking for a skull."

fading yarrow
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I feel like I'm playing stealth bomber incorrectly

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The double barrel shotgun just doesn't feel like it does a lot even with max WS stacks

tribal dawn
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I don't like the shotgun. I just use the infantry autogun or shredder pistol.

calm shard
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only need 3 for guaranteed crit

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double barrel with flechette+manstopper will one shot anything smaller than a shotgunner

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even if only one pellet hits them

fading yarrow
calm shard
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don't brace it

austere mica
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The best part about ws dbarrel

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Is that even if you miss a kill, just attack another random piece of trash

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And then shoot again

hybrid plover
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I know that sounds like a dumb question but you'd be surprised how many people don't really understand what the db is actually good at.

fading yarrow
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Yeeted and deleted scab and dreg bruiser/groaner/poxer hordes

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Even did some decent chewing on gunners and shotgunners

ember folio
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plasma gun is just painfully the best right?

hybrid plover
hollow ibex
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Eh

narrow frost
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its okay

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there is no best weapon

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there is always another weapon that does something better

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its whatever role you need the weapon to fill

ember folio
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oh okay

fresh spire
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anyone have the link for modding discord? also anyone have a link for wep customization mod? it got taken down on nexus

stuck gorge
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Look in the weapon customization pins for the mod

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It’s getting completely reworked so it’s not public on nexus yet

livid sphinx
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/s

stuck gorge
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so first you have to get the commissar subclass of veteran

tall torrent
surreal rune
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new kerillan players somehow missing every special and landing a spear into the back of my zealot's head

stuck gorge
surreal rune
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i dont even think havoc 30 sitters who wait for carry shoot themselves in the foot this much

umbral scaffold
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hellbore is my favorite ngl

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sounds cool, has a built in melee, looks cool

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musket ftw

livid sphinx
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hellbore is a nightmare to play in higher difficulties so nah

dapper coyote
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Wut

livid sphinx
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too much clicking

calm shard
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have you tried using the big slow one that clicks less

umbral scaffold
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I always charge it first

tribal dawn
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Man do I love the auto-swing mod

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where I hold a button and it swings/shoots full auto for me.

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Also, I don't use it much. Best mark for le shovel?

tribal dawn
# hybrid plover Mk1

I will accept the input from the shovel goblin. Clearly he is the smartest amongst you.

hybrid plover
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Mk3 if you wanna be weird and have the flip special attack.

hollow ibex
hybrid plover
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I'll be real

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I can't use auto swing and skitarius

tribal dawn
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I know about skitarius. Don't care for it.

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I just want something to auto swing/shoot for me. That's it.

hollow ibex
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skitarius can do that

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but you do you

tribal dawn
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So can auto-swing mod.

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I will.

hybrid plover
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Autofire ya but i just cannot get around using it for melee weapons cuz I'm a spaz that uses every facet of a moveset.

hollow ibex
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auto swing had some issues for me

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so i'm glad skitarius is a thing

tribal dawn
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To each their own.

hollow ibex
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i can actually play with half the arsenal now

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like no way i can play mk7 taxe

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without skitarius

spark helm
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I just warm up and give myself maybe two games tops before a break.

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Literally just finished a vt2 run with dd shade kerillian antics. Absolutely taking a break just to be on the safe side.

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Goddamn I forgot how much I enjoyed this game. I legit forgot nearly all my basics and had to deal with a bit of felt pressure for a minute.

tall torrent
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run&gun + stance

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accurate hipfire up to basically every distance where u might hipfire over ads

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downside: now u can't blame the spread for missing shots

hybrid plover
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You know.

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It just hit me

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I haven't tried agripinna revolver with exe stance.

hollow ibex
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tried that, still don't like it

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i still have traumatized memories of trading with a sniper

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and by trading i mean my shot went wide

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because i didn't let the crosshair fully settle

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at like 15 meters

hybrid plover
hollow ibex
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less murder, more assisted suicide

tall torrent
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but it can be fun

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if the +25% mag size talent was easier to access it'd be much nicer

dry cloak
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7 shot 5 shot revolver

fresh spire
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do smokes work if ranged enemy is between u and smoke

dry cloak
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I think so

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Logic implies it does

hybrid plover
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At least if I'm reading that correctly.

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If the enemy is in the smoke, then it still works.

dapper coyote
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I think it does

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Multiple times i used smokes thrown between my team and a bunch of gunners the gunners ceased to fire

hybrid plover
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But they said "between u and smoke"

dapper coyote
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So im assuming using the smoke as a no shooting blanket infront of the gunners?

hybrid plover
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That implies the smoke isn't in the way of the ranged enemy.

dapper coyote
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Ah

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As long as its in the way it should work

hybrid plover
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It could really just be a mistype but taking that at face value, no it wouldn't work that way.

dapper coyote
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But if you simply chuck it and not in any gunners way then it doesn't work

random steppe
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yk, idk shit abt how it fits into meta or whatever, but the bolt pistol feels VERY nice to shoot

distant mural
toxic reef
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tldr at botom

midnight wyvern
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and perhaps different blessings

distant mural
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A little

toxic reef
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spearhead also is a blessings focused weapon

midnight wyvern
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only dif ones are the AoE ones but I just assume nobody uses them because they're mid

toxic reef
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they're different good

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pinning fire on bolter for example

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more of CC rather than boss/specials focused

distant mural
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Smh

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Smh

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Smh

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Just like the silent chamge of p-sword dodge limit

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So theres actually like 0 reason now to still use spearhead over bistol

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Nice

midnight wyvern
distant mural
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Im like almost 100% sure thats it used to be more dmg for the spearhead.

midnight wyvern
distant mural
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So apparently the bolter has higher max dmg or smth

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But i dont know why

normal sparrow
distant mural
dull sundial
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Hi folks, levelling up a veteran. Which masteries should I develop to be ready for havocs?

distant mural
dull sundial
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Already playing havoc on zealot, interested in good vet builds

toxic reef
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handle melee

azure narwhal
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Well, this does quite depend on what weapons you will use. Though there is an existing, good build skeleton you can go off of

steep flower
distant mural
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I coulce sworn it was

steep flower
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Stating that using bistol is better than spearhead cause both have the same dmg is foolishness

distant mural
steep flower
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Just because you can cut both well with a knife & a fork does not mean knife is worse & vice versa

distant mural
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I was just overexaggeratingKEKW_ogryn

dull sundial
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Plasma gun, bolt pistol and bolter are main ranged ones to level up?

distant mural
dull sundial
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Is the recon lasgun spam still a thing

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I have returned after a while

steep flower
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Experiment thumbsup_ogryn

distant mural
thorn lark
thorn lark
toxic reef
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why not knife

calm shard
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they do just enough damage that they will kill basic shooters around what you're shooting at

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and the stagger+huge suppression radius meas you stop getting shot at immediately even if you miss

thorn lark
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And tbh, it's a way to play dclaw again

toxic reef
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I've never started so :^)

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I should try heavy sword on vet some time, only done it on zealot

thorn lark
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it's actually very good

toxic reef
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get a little extra rending nodes, coupled with krak

calm shard
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even with rendign it's still unusable into carapace

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just use kraks/helbore/bolter for it

toxic reef
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fair

random steppe
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I just like seeing a heretic get shot in half by one (1) single round from the bolt pistol, it's wild asf and cool

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rule of cool is a super good reason for just about anything tbh

toxic reef
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was it the arbites update that made a few weapons do excessive gore damage unintentionally?

random steppe
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oh i dunno anything about that, it's possible though

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yesterday i shot a reaper in the face and you could see his skull even though he was still alive

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it was metal as fuck

toxic reef
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yeah it was in july so that matches

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mk3 eviscerator sideways special in to a crusher, bisecting it, is also p awesome

calm shard
toxic reef
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yeah I mostly meant nowadays

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I wouldn't mind more weapons with insane ragdoll capabilities

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I always enjoy that more than gibs

toxic reef
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heavy sword, revolver, krak, ws went p well

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smyker did smyker dmg as usual

steep flower
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Is alright

toxic reef
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yeah nurgle blessing maelstrom

steep flower
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Altho when i hear that Hsword is ok vs carapace i smell copium & delulu powder

toxic reef
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it's fine vs maulers and plasmas

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but I have my backups for a reason

void dragon
crimson wyvern
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ugggggg i hate disconnectorsss

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stop ruining MY GAMESSSS

void dragon
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In my defense, it was ObeseFish's fault

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It's always ObeseFish fault

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Damn you 2002/2014/etc errors

serene bough
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At this point they should fit the 2014 error into a trailer as an easter egg

steep flower
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They take no.1 in that award section

crimson wyvern
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its not the servers

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everytime its after they get downed

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i dont buy the excuse anymore

void dragon
steep flower
void dragon
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If you don't take the benched time for a mistake/being an idiot, then you are not ogryn (aka a real man)

tribal dawn
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It's the worst when people don't move forward and fight at the same time. Like yes, there are some situations where you're pinched and have to hold your ground, but there's times where the entire way forward is clear, but people will elect to stay back and fight a never ending horde.

burnt pelican
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help

tribal dawn
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It's like when Assail Pskyer first released.

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Bunch of Yondu cosplayers everywhere.

red robin
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I get dopamine for the melee hack and slash

red robin
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Hyper mobility in a game that’s mostly fought on the ground

void dragon
red robin
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today I will launch myself off the ledge for fun

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Screw waiting for a teammate to hit a barrel that’ll launch me, I’ll do it myself

red robin
steep flower
void dragon
steep flower
red robin
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Me when I misinput the rocket jump hab dreko skip

void dragon
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Soon gravity based deaths will skyrocket and we can't blame the barrels anymore

turbid ibex
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Rocket jump would be funny but unfortunately we wont get any crumbs of vertical mobility that isnt at the mercy of barrels

red robin
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Or the occasional poxburster that hits you from a specific angle

turbid ibex
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True

tribal dawn
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Where'd the little servitor drone come from?

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That's cool.

calm shard
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your MOMS house

tribal dawn
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Indeed.

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Anyways.

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It seems we'll never know.

calm shard
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Servo Friend mod

red robin
tribal dawn
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Just gotta pray one of your teammates doesn't shoot the barrel as soon as the door opens.

red robin
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Great privilege to be alive to witness what human ingenuity is capable of

tall torrent
red robin
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cuts to me seeing smite psyker gameplay and i get demoralized back to loathing existence

calm shard
red robin
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What’s the science here?

tall torrent
red robin
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Ooo

tall torrent
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upside: you can hit hipfire quickshots really far
downside: u can't blame the gun's spread for missing shots anymore

red robin
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Agrippnaa fanning revolver gets braced shots with tighter spread with deadshot on top of those two spread reductions as well

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Run n gun and executioners being the two

toxic reef
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queuing for fun

tribal dawn
red robin
red robin
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Yeah that’s what I use that set up on

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Zarona fun tho

hasty grove
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Disappointed

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Cutthroat doesn’t have a “Cadia stands!” VoC line

red robin
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THERE IS ONLY WAR

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sry

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Tism makes me love that delivery

hasty grove
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I love all of them

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I play as fem cutthroat

slate wave
hasty grove
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But we missed out a bit

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My favorite is “GET IN THERE! MAKE EM SCREAM

distant mural
hasty grove
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I know

narrow widget
hasty grove
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GIVE EM THE OL’ KASRKIN DOUBLE TAP

tribal dawn
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GET EM DEAD! RIGHT HERE! RIGHT NOW!

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Pretty sure if cutthroat yelled at me irl, I would get off my ass and do something.

toxic reef
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my fav

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decent irl motivator too

tribal dawn
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The way the va delivers FOR CREED! goes hard too.

hollow ibex
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crazy how y'all ignored the best like

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CLOSE, KILL, DO IT AGAIN

toxic reef
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there's many good cutthroat ones, I can't switch because of the voc lines being so much better

hasty grove
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Cadians get hated on cus everyone’s jealous of us 💅

tribal dawn
#

I think we've established that Cutthroat has the best voice lines lol

red robin
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Stimming to cutthroat personality is my life blood

hasty grove
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My girl has that shit ON

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Serving cunt in the name of the emperor

red robin
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Itches the same dopamine response as Kruber shouting “OI, WE’RE THE BLOODY UBERSHRIEK FIVE!!”

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Kruber my beloved

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Maybe I reinstall vt2 and run the new map for old times sake

hasty grove
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The only game that has better warcries than the Tides is Chivalry 2. But it’s close

red robin
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Laugh emoting and screaming as they do it

hasty grove
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SEND THEM TO JOIN THEIR FAMILIES….. IN DEEEEAAAATTTTHHH

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Mason Knight is smiled upon by Khorne himself

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I tire of mead, I thirst… FOR BLOOOOOOOD

red robin
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Missing the guys with lutes in mordhau

hasty grove
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You can get a harp in Chiv at least

hasty grove
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Both are good but spamming warcries with your teammates while sprinting back into the battle in Chiv2 is unmatched

ocean idol
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also m,ay e i should play Chivalry today

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Backstab some people with dagger

hasty grove
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Oh

ocean idol
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Ambusher my beloved

hasty grove
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You’re one of them

ocean idol
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Oh

hasty grove
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The dagger is a coward’s weapon

ocean idol
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you are one of them

ocean idol
hasty grove
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Grow a pair and pick up a battle axe

ocean idol
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nah

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you get to go into middle of battle lines and die like an idiot

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I get to backstab you and live to backstab again

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each to their own

fair shale
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The dagger is what you can use when the fight goes to ground

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Oh, chiv, nvm

hasty grove
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I’m a woman with bigger balls than you 💅

calm shard
# ocean idol not even close, VT wayt better

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ocean idol
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also i bet you are hating archers

calm shard
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I dunno I find this guy amusing

hasty grove
fair shale
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Archers are pussies

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Playing archer is not playing chiv

calm shard
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I like playing archer

hasty grove
calm shard
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because the skirmisher shield doing 20 damage on jab is quite amusing

ocean idol
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against different weapons

calm shard
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and nobody expects to come up against the one archer that knows how to play the game

ocean idol
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i tried that

hasty grove
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Two daggers vs. any sword will get you slimed

fair shale
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I simply cannot stand archers

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I don't play chiv to shoot people

ocean idol
fair shale
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And I dont play chiv to be shot lmfao

ocean idol
calm shard
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yeah I play archer to throw shit at people xd

hasty grove
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Even beat an archer to death with his own bow?

ocean idol
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have you ever even held a sword

hasty grove
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Yes, actually I’m a HEMA practitioner

ocean idol
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I have literally video of me sparring with dual daggers

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against longsword

calm shard
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but I started gravitating towards Ambusher for that lifestyle after playing for a while

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basically the same class as skirmisher archer

ocean idol
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also did it against rapier and sword + buckler

calm shard
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but without archer's...questionable stats

hasty grove
hasty grove
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Oh wait I’m noticing a trend

fair shale
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I play man at arms normally tbh

hasty grove
hasty grove
ocean idol
fair shale
hasty grove
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Spear

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Rahh

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It’s good at maintaining distance & supporting my team

fair shale
#

Glaive makes people angry ime cause it swings fast for a 2 hander

ocean idol
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only 1 weapon makes me mad

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2-handed club, don't remember exact name

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war club?

hasty grove
ocean idol
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because its hitbox is way bigger than actual model

hasty grove
#

And they deserve it

fair shale
#

I should play chiv again

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Nah

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I should play mordhau and regret that decision then play chiv again

ocean idol
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Chiv better designed than mordhau

fair shale
#

Mordhau melee system is my favorite melee system I've ever used in a game

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Chiv feels a touch arcadey at times

hasty grove
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Mordhau is god awful

ocean idol
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Mordhau would be great in my eyes if it did not have block cancel

hasty grove
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“Fights that look like fights”

ocean idol
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Mordhau is all about godawful mechanic of accels and drags

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pure mechanical skills

fair shale
#

I like how freeform Mord is

ocean idol
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Chiv is about outhinking your opponent

fair shale
hasty grove
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Mordhau is who can exploit harder

fair shale
#

Tbf you gotta learn the mechanics to exploit them

ocean idol
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well not really, because all exploits pretty much intended

hasty grove
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Than thats bad game design

ocean idol
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also Ambusher btw one of the big reasons i prefer Chivalrry

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Chivalry does not support well mobile builds

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and no b enefits to attacking from behind

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Chiv does

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also throwing knives are great

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in mordhau they are trash

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@hasty grove i will send you dual dagger sparring video

hasty grove
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I can tolerate Ambusher in BTB. But if you play Ambusher in 3v3’s I actually fucking hate you

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Throwing knife spam in arena is some bottomfeeder behavior

ocean idol
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Actually no, i cannot

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file too big

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so here is one moment

ocean idol
hasty grove
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I play arena occasionally

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I don’t play it more because it’s players are insufferable doucebags

fair shale
#

Tbh I don't play arena cause of Chiv 1

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When people would take archer and barricade themselves somewhere

ocean idol
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There were no barricades in chiv 1 though?

fair shale
#

Pavaise?

hasty grove
#

Off topic but heres my bf and I’s matching veterans

fair shale
#

Whatever you wanna call it

fair shale
hasty grove
#

Can’t enjoy shit can I?

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Not that deep

fair shale
#

Not in this world

ocean idol
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Nope

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Fun not allowed

silver patrol
hasty grove
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God forbid people buy cosmetics here and there with their disposable income

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Goddamn

silver patrol
#

i mean you are allowed to buy cosmetics

ocean idol
fair shale
#

Tbh if it was the havoc armor I'd call you two cute

silver patrol
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but you do deserve all the mockery

silver patrol
hasty grove
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I don’t like the Havoc armor

ocean idol
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Block cancel is when you fuck up and start attack, but cancel; it by double clicking and holding block

fair shale
#

Love it, kinda reminds me of HUNK

ocean idol
silver patrol
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uh yes?

ocean idol
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Feint is separate key

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Block cancel makes mistakes in attack unpunishable

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and distance management worthless

hasty grove
#

Mordhau is just a bad game

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Simple as

serene bough
fair shale
#

Does chiv 2 have a rapier?

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I don't remember rn

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Idek who even would

silver patrol
#

kinda doubt that

hasty grove
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Yes and if you use it I will mirror you

fair shale
#

Who has it?

silver patrol
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oh it does?

ocean idol
hasty grove
silver patrol
#

what class has it

ocean idol
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I love rapier

silver patrol
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everyone would look silly with it

hasty grove
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I hate Rapier users

hasty grove
ocean idol
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I use its special when enemies misjudge distance

silver patrol
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lol

fair shale
ocean idol
silver patrol
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it's not exactly a normal footman weapon is it

ocean idol
#

it is not even that good

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falchion is way better

hasty grove
fair shale
silver patrol
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chivalry 2 must be pretty dead

hasty grove
ocean idol
silver patrol
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are they still supporting it

hasty grove
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It’s a quick and easy way to show distain

hasty grove
ocean idol
fair shale
#

Chiv 2 isn't dead iirc

silver patrol
#

it's like 1.2k people

fair shale
#

Its not like 10k players all the time

hasty grove
#

I’ve been called some abhorrent shit in videogames for no reason

fair shale
#

1.2k is good

ocean idol
silver patrol
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yeah bro and scrimblo mcscrimblo has 2 people online, doesn't really mean much does it

fair shale
hasty grove
fair shale
#

I'm just saying, 1.2k is alive

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You can find matches

hasty grove
#

Titanfall 2 is even worse

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It breaks my heart

fair shale
#

Titanfall 2 would probably be better off without the like

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Months of DDoS that happened

hasty grove
ocean idol
hasty grove
#

And I’ve watched the slow decline

fair shale
ocean idol
#

Titanfall2 was great

fair shale
#

But it has player retention issues like a mf

ocean idol
#

People probably still play it?

fair shale
#

Sometimes yeah

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Northstar servers work for it

hasty grove
fair shale
#

I can't remember if Northstar has attrition tho?

hasty grove
#

We get like

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800 player peaks

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On a good day

fair shale
#

Idk what it is on steam

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I do know base servers I ran into the same people a lot

ocean idol
#

Matches are what, 4v4?

fair shale
#

Lil more but not much more

ocean idol
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ok fuck it, i am installing tf2

hasty grove
ocean idol
#

Scorch was my fav titan

fair shale
#

It's like 70 gbs iirc

ocean idol
#

then i started playing ronin

fair shale
#

Ronin best mech

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Love big sword gameplay

hasty grove
#

I enjoy when Ronin players think they’re the main character

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And than just break against my max upgrades Monarch

fair shale
#

Tbf if you're good at Ronin he can 1v1 every mech except scorch

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And you normally get him first

hasty grove
#

I see a cocky Ronin player as

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FOOD

ocean idol
#

Monarch 🤮

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Most braindead titan

hasty grove
#

Lmao

fair shale
#

Nah

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That's Tone

hasty grove
#

Thats so funny

ocean idol
#

actually fair

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Forgot about Tone

hasty grove
#

Monarch having one of the highest skill ceilings

ocean idol
#

sure

fair shale
#

Monarchs skill floor is "stay alive" ime

ocean idol
#

too bad both scorch and ronin exist

hasty grove
#

Ronin is braindead

fair shale
#

The mech sucks booty buttcheeks till t2

ocean idol
#

Actually not sure about ronin

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but scorch is for sure hardest tian to play

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because it is just bad for the most part

fair shale
#

Thats cause scorch is like

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The worst

hasty grove
#

I’ve Gen 10’ed all the Titans

fair shale
#

Yeah

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Scorch is the worst titan in tf2

hasty grove
#

Scorch is braindead if you take inferno shield

fair shale
#

On any given map

hasty grove
#

Otherwise he’s the highest skill curve

fair shale
#

Tbh

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He's not worth the effort

#

He is very fun in PvE tho

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I do also think he's aesthetically cool

ocean idol
#

oh i forgot there is pve mode

fair shale
#

Reminds me vaguely of a Big Daddy from Bioshock

fair shale
ocean idol
#

I do think titans were way better balanced in TF1

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You had 3 chassis

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that you could modify

fair shale
#

And everyone ran basically the same thing

hasty grove
#

Scorch players will take inferno shield and than glaze themselves as skillfull for holding a button and walking forward 🥀

fair shale
#

Tbf what else do you bring on him?

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It's not like he's gonna range fight another titan and win

ocean idol
fair shale
#

Lemme check his perks again

ocean idol
#

also pretty sure meta for scorch always was that one perk that increases damage from your primary wepaon direct hits(?)

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or was it from its dot

hasty grove
#

Meta scorch is inferno shield iirc

fair shale
#

Oh, I liked incendiary traps

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Tbh

hasty grove
#

I can deal with it. But I’m gonna find you extremely annoying

#

Go ahead. Blindly walk towards the energy thief monarch

fair shale
#

Monarch players when they just get killed t1

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Monarch is great

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But you have to get outta t1 and 2

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And make it to 3 with any amount of hp

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Its a win more chassis imo

#

Like

ocean idol
#

Oh wait

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Monarch

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i confused it with LEgion

fair shale
#

Monarch wont cause you to win a game

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But Monarch will cause you to win a game you're already winning harder

ocean idol
#

when i said mot braindead

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Monarch is skillfull, yes

fair shale
#

Yeah legion is the most braindead titan in tf2

hasty grove
#

Tone

fair shale
#

Fatstar ass mech

hasty grove
#

It still goes to tone

fair shale
ocean idol
#

Well also true

fair shale
#

Tone has a tech

ocean idol
#

Second after Tone

fair shale
#

It's not a hard one

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But Legion is fat boy aim bot walk forward

hasty grove
#

Tone is literally a point and click adventure game

fair shale
#

Properly using tone is angling your missiles to hit people from behind

hasty grove
#

At least Legion needs to consider positioning

ocean idol
#

is Monarch the one that gets upgraded when you get other mechs cores?

fair shale
#

Yes

hasty grove
#

Yes

fair shale
#

That normally eats shit t1 ime

#

Generally to a ronin or a Northstar

hasty grove
#

I run arc rounds, rearm & reload, and exo-16 acceleration

fair shale
#

Now that's a mech

#

Love me Northstar

hasty grove
gentle lake
#

Is it true shovel is the strongest weapon in the game

fair shale
#

Uhhh

gentle lake
#

Krieg told me

fair shale
#

Cole likes it

hasty grove
#

Point at “dat shit”. Start firing and it ceases to exist

fair shale
#

Its not PS

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But it's safe and reliable

gentle lake
#

I love rending

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I can kill crushers no problem now

fair shale
#

I would defo take it before a bunch of other melees on vet tbh

gentle lake
#

As long as I dodge

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But shovel sweeps

ocean idol
hasty grove
ocean idol
#

Giving sniper high mobility AND traps that slow down others is cancer design

hasty grove
fair shale
#

I play ronin or north

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Maybe ion

hasty grove
#

I have a strat

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Run Backup battery

First titan is Northstar and I do Northstar things (backline sniping)

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Than I switch to Monarch and use two batteries at once

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To almost immediately get my first upgrade

ocean idol
#

10% installed

hasty grove
#

I also get help from my BF

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He likes to snipe so he runs cloak & low profile

#

And steals batteries for my Monarch 💅

short agate
#

It does good bonks?

red robin
#

man

#

how nutty would marksmen focus be if it was coded as finesse strength instead of damage

#

hypothetical cleave increase might be neat on automatic weapons

surreal rune
#

although veteran has the strengths of survivalist and shocktrooper

surreal rune
#

because dd also affects melee

calm shard
#

you have to remember that weakspot damage and weakspot strength are not the same

red robin
#

it's finesse as well, so crits would be nutty

calm shard
#

weakspot strength like what is present on Ogryn and Arbites affects all damage on a weakspot hit, while regular weakspot damage only affects the extra damage from it being a weakspot

red robin
#

was thinking it had similar coding to how 10% weakspot and critical damage perks functioned

calm shard
#

no

#

different effect entirely

red robin
#

shiet

red robin
#

based off how it's worded yeah that makes sense

calm shard
#

yes

#

marksman is a comically overkill damage boost most of the time

red robin
#

just reading this

#

sad that the in game tooltip says strength when it's not that

thorn lark
#

That's the keystone

#

He's talking about the talent above. Marksman.

calm shard
#

not Marksman's Focus

#

Marksman

#

I know very incredible talent names

red robin
#

yeah

#

just a thought really

#

would be busted as hell

#

but i just want more sources of cleave on ranged weapons

thorn lark
#

Blessing is one way to get that

hollow ibex
#

it's good that ranged cleave is very limited

#

and then there's psyker

#

naturally psyker is the exception to every rule in the game

silver patrol
#

i hope they nerf flame staff hard

#

and flamer too

hollow ibex
#

i think flamer's mostly fine

#

at least it's ammo-limited lol

silver patrol
#

yeah but zealots have to be beaten down to keep them on their toes

hollow ibex
#

true...

tall torrent
#

Nah flamer is kinda ok

#

It’s nowhere near the same damage ramp up as psyker

narrow widget
fair shale
#

My issue with zealot flamer is that inferno staff exists

#

So if I want to be a fire bot I can turn my brain off entirely and do that

tame lodge
#

Hey what

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C'mon Hadron

#

Fuck you

fair shale
#

Yeah man you heard the bot

narrow widget
#

lmao

#

1984

tame lodge
#

Still no

#

Fuck you hadron

#

Anyways

#

Kf3 looks nice

#

💀

fair shale
#

The rocket launcher looks like a smaw

orchid hemlock
fair shale
#

That looks so

#

Can I be real?

#

The rocket launcher looks stupid tbh

tall torrent
#

That rocket deploy speed

#

Lmao

#

Yea blinders are the way

orchid hemlock
fair shale
#

It looks weightless right?

#

unfortunate timing happens ig ¯_(ツ)_/¯

narrow widget
#

there needs to be so much more startup and end lag

fair shale
#

Agreed

#

At least for like, weighty feeling

tall torrent
#

It took a solid 2s to use the rocket lmao it’s joever

fair shale
#

If that thing one shots crushers I s2g

tame lodge
#

Same for the dual daggers

#

They look slow

tall torrent
#

If that thing doesn’t 1 tap bulwark on hitting shield it’s joever

narrow widget
tall torrent
#

2s deploy is brutal

fair shale
#

I agree but on the same end it look like it had no feeling to me and I hate that

#

Like it wont feel like shooting a rocket in Squad or whatever

#

But it was so personalityless

#

Tbh the explosion wasn't even impressive

tame lodge
#

Maybe it's just the small amount of targets available

tall torrent
#

The explosion is cool

tame lodge
tall torrent
#

But man that deploy time is brutal

fair shale
#

What's the third nade they get again?

narrow widget
tall torrent
#

But basically, blinder is the way to go

#

Fast throw + mixed horde stagger + recoverable from kills

fair shale
#

And as we all know

#

The best trait in a grenade is not having to pick up more of them

tall torrent
#

Well not necessarily

#

Box and nuke both get their value

fair shale
#

Most Ogs run rock ime

elder fiber
#

not on havoc

fair shale
#

I don't really like playing Og tho, personally, so I don't have major thoughts on their nades

tame lodge
#

Maybe those dagger attacks would be faster if they weren't in ice pick grip

elder fiber
#

rock is just v funny

tame lodge
fair shale
#

I see a lot of rock ogs in havoc

#

Unless its rituals

#

Then I see frag bomb

tall torrent
#

That’s their main drawback tbh

fair shale
#

Like for pathing?

#

Or for a perk inside rock?

tall torrent
#

Rock usually takes the subnode

#

Box doesn’t

#

Nuke doesn’t have subnode in the first place

fair shale
#

Yeah, fair enough

#

I havent seen a box og in awhile tbh

#

Actually damn

#

Those melee swings are real slow

narrow widget
#

might just have no attack speed talents

tame lodge
#

Yeah which is really weird

tall torrent
fair shale
#

Nah I mean in the video