I'm Stimming it
And by it
I mean
#veteran-class
untold mulch
Still on the server, but haven't touched the game in months
regal smelt
I hope scum stims can self down
tall torrent
stim crate + stim keystone + giga potent stim is prob the best way to run it for havoc?
with blinder nade for control
untold mulch
Nor I am interested in reinstalling
sharp epoch
I feel like that class is gonna be the epitome of movement, has a bunch of buffs to dodging and sprinting costs from what I've seen
untold mulch
My cynical side is saying is gonna be comically OP so they can rake up that cash
sharp epoch
stim crate + stim keystone + giga potent stim is prob the best way to run it for...
I'm thinking the elite/specialist keystone gonna be the meta
easy to stack up things like that in havoc
tall torrent
I'm thinking the elite/specialist keystone gonna be the meta
only from ranged kills tho
sharp epoch
true guess it depends on what weaponry they get
tame lodge
True
sharp epoch
im thinking theyre gonna get a unique braced auto type gun thats better than default one
untold mulch
Mhmm
sharp epoch
well they do have dual autopistols in the thumbnail so probably that
regal smelt
I'm hoping they do add more weapons in the future if all there is has been shown
fair shale
Lemme get these for Scum
untold mulch
2 galactic wars
fair shale
That'll win me over
untold mulch
.45 is god emperor's caliber
regal smelt
as long as vet gets a few
sharp epoch
they kinda look like scorpions in the trailer
untold mulch
Emperor I hate that gun
calm shard
literally an m1911 yes
calm shard
And then some needle gun thing
possibly a needle pistol but unlikely since they're supposed to be rare
calm shard
actually looking at it
spark helm
Soon
hollow ibex
most certainly a needle pistol
What’s special about it?
calm shard
they fire a toxic sliver using lasfire as a propellant
hollow ibex
Ah interesting
untold mulch
Isn't that the lasgun opens a hole for the needle?
calm shard
yes
hollow ibex
Cool so I can drug both my teammates and heretics
regal smelt
oh well some weapons are suppose to apply the concoction debuff so it makes sense
that at least 1 ranged weapon would be made for it
untold mulch
Honestly the entire needle pistol is an insane concept unless the lasgun part does a decent enough hole
Like hitting with a laser and without moving the barrel hitting with a projectile that same spot? 
At least better than the sniper version
the sniper version is just crack
hollow ibex
Don’t think too much about it lol
untold mulch
I like to think much about fictional guns tbh
hollow ibex
Just pretend that this is an AN 94
regal smelt
Like hitting with a laser and without moving the barrel hitting with a projectil...
with how funky the las gun cone of fire is in this game its to be expected... in game
untold mulch
yeah but thats a gameplay balance stuff
regal smelt
lasers coming out sideways because muh accuracy lol
untold mulch
the lasgun is not actually going on a 45º angle lore wise, is just there balance wise to simulate your character is panicking and shooting randomly
regal smelt
just making fun of it is all
untold mulch
Yeah is fun to try to make sense
Alternative excuse
Hadron is cheap
and gives you the shittiest of guns
sharp epoch
are those the actual weapons they'll have?
regal smelt
bots whip that shit and shoot targets the exact opposite direction theyre aiming too its amazing
untold mulch
"Emperor guide my aim"
hollow ibex
are those the actual weapons they'll have?
Yeah unless fatshart is plain lying
Those should just be the uniques
Not inclusive of mark variations
sharp epoch
at leasts its more than arb
hollow ibex
Looks decent yeah
regal smelt
are those the actual weapons they'll have?
arbys went the same, gave us a look at all the weapons through the deluxe bundle skins
also yeah those arent the base skin so theyll look kinda different maybe
fossil basalt
TL;DR on MKVII vs MKIII sapper shovel?
regal smelt
hopefully we get more remodels than recolors though. Theres so much more outlandish ways to make crackhead guns than regular guns
hollow ibex
TL;DR on MKVII vs MKIII sapper shovel?
III
But you’ll need serrated blade
And trench fighter
fossil basalt
wow yeah VII has like, no overheads
hollow ibex
It has a slanted overhead
With the special
But I really dislike the latch time
Even if it has better horde clear
hollow ibex
Hmm conscript?
elder vessel
no arby uses that one
clever hedge
Rats, snitches, foder, meatshields
dapper coyote
Btw someone asked for an uzi right? Well we got uzis now for the hive scum
regal smelt
Btw someone asked for an uzi right? Well we got uzis now for the hive scum
yeah, just this morning too
hollow ibex
more looking forward to the 1911 pistol tbh
45 ACP is the emperor’s caliber
serene bough
What will the ganger call us
Bootlicker or something
gleaming adder
Hope after the release of ganger we actually get some guard related ranged options for vet
Helgun, melta, plasma pistol, longlas fucking anything
narrow frost
spark helm
https://tenor.com/view/king-von---armed-%26-dangerous-gif-14036418018113420066
Arbites steady watching me, every day they clocking me Every day they clocking me
livid sphinx
just want a helgun option by removing melee
spark helm
You know what would be a little cooler? If they increased stagger on them rifle butt specials some of these guns have. Maybe a shot of cleave too.
Mini l4d2 shove to help out shooters. Granted there's just an entire keystone that gives ammo back to make cqc much safer and reliable.
frank basin
Lol hive scum gonna be watched by arbites
atomic zephyr
1 min slow mode in gen chat is brutal
frank basin
Yeah
umbral scaffold
void dragon
Lol hive scum gonna be watched by arbites
im seriously wondering how they got recruited when we already have Arbys complaining on the regular rejects
now they have to work with criminals they probably know already
frank basin
now they have to work with criminals they probably know already
Corruption goes deeper
ember nest
im seriously wondering how they got recruited when we already have Arbys complai...
the inquisitor
the one named grendyl
that one
void dragon
Grendyl? not Rannick? so he is sending us his boys in the cartels to help us?
ember nest
they've had their tendryls in the lives of the uncommon common man since before they even got to atoma
zola was part of this bs and is now basically right under rannick
but what I'm saying is the arbites do not supercede a rosette
the fact that grendyl exist says "you will comply"
atomic zephyr
Zola hit a blunt and went “what if we get MORE prisoners”
spark helm
im seriously wondering how they got recruited when we already have Arbys complai...
I'd actually love any dialogue that lowkey like hints harder at some other levels of basic shady shit going on.
calm shard
im seriously wondering how they got recruited when we already have Arbys complai...
a simple little fact that they are operating on a rogue trader's ship, and working with the inquisition
two people who could infact kill all of them and face little to no consequences for it
gleaming adder
Zola hit a blunt and went “what if we get MORE prisoners”
Skipping the prison going straight to O block
neat stratus
I sincerely hope I'm not the one person actually excited for gangers
hollow ibex
I am
neat stratus
I want a zealot-vet hybrid, this is it
Arbites is to Ogryn and Zealot what Ganger is likely going to be to Veteran and Zealot
An admech class would likely be something of a combination of veteran and psyker
That seems to be the idea with their dlc that is, combine aspects of two classes and add a unique feature to it
distant plaza
neat stratus
Seriously curious how we'll be able to customize stimms
Stacking literally every possible speed buff including custom stimms it is
Speaking of which, gotta have hipfire while sprinting as a talent, no debate
hollow ibex
might be built into some of their guns already
neat stratus
As long as its a thing
pure light
Seriously curious how we'll be able to customize stimms
Only option I'd find interesting is if you can use it like a full blown medkit and hand out actual heals to the party. "Mafia Surgeon" build is the only option that would make me consider the Skum DLC.
neat stratus
Id expect more unique effects than simple stat buffs honestly
I'd see the chemist combat ability as something with a custom effect, but can't really think of anything that wouldn't be janky
If they have to change the cooldown based on what you made, I bet they're going to be strong
heavy rover
I sincerely hope I'm not the one person actually excited for gangers
I am. I didn't have any expectations. The mechanics got me interested
neat stratus
I was hoping for an admech reclamator, but I'm completely fine with ganger and excited for it
hybrid plover
I sincerely hope I'm not the one person actually excited for gangers
You're not. Not that I was excited but that I'm confident that Fatshark will do something interesting with a new class like they did Arby. And what I'm seeing, I do like actually.
tall torrent
I sincerely hope I'm not the one person actually excited for gangers
I wasn't
but their kit + deluxe skin convinced me
hybrid plover
Custom stimms is a really interesting concept and I hope it's as good as it sounds.
tall torrent
cook the most devious stim with stim tree
take stim keystone (whenever u take stim, get a long-lasting buff that reduces CD)
take the stim crate ability to drug everybody up
and take blindr nade + ammo share aura
calm shard
I sincerely hope I'm not the one person actually excited for gangers
I NEED them carnally
spark helm
I sincerely hope I'm not the one person actually excited for gangers
Nah I'm here for it. Been reading it again and yeah. At least on paper, this is hitting a lot of my marks personally./
calm shard
I also do actually like ganger aesthetic so
Double good for me
need to think of a good joke name for them
spark helm
Mostly looking forward to feeling out the chemist and gunslinger stuff. Probably something like gunslinger-ruffian/chemist, ruffian-chemist
Especially playing with the custom stimm since I love using those liberally too.
neat pilot
I sincerely hope I'm not the one person actually excited for gangers
I dont have high hopes but i do like the idea of it
spark helm
Unironically wanted to get a ganger at some point because I was thinking about how it could be written to play a class that's actually on the other side of the law by default in that kind of way.
And of course, dual wield.
calm shard
I also hope that not ALL of their weapons are exclusive to them
surreal rune
i hope vet gets a dual wield or two
spark helm
Look if they give vet them akimbos?
Psyker?
Might be a dark day for all the other classes in the game. I'm probably not playing ogryn or arbites much at that point.
Zealot with the dual shivs? W get.
neat stratus
I ***NEED*** them carnally
Excuse me
mild oxide
Does anyone else feel like the arbite dog and the ganger chems kind of power creep them with their own unique mechanics that other classes just... don't get? I'm struggling to look between Veteran, Gunslinger Ganger, and shooty Arbite and see how veteran distinquishes themselves?
spark helm
Does anyone else feel like the arbite dog and the ganger chems kind of power cr...
We'd need the ganger to actually exist before a better perspective beyond speculation imo.
austere mica
Vet can hold arbitrator at range any day and has much better burst damage in basically every respect
hybrid plover
Does anyone else feel like the arbite dog and the ganger chems kind of power cr...
Arby tanky shoot and hit guy with dog.
Vet shoot and hit guy but do way more damage and burst potential.
mild oxide
We'd need the ganger to actually exist before a better perspective beyond specul...
I agree with you there, but just looking at things I'm still feeling like the winds are blowing in that direction.
hybrid plover
Vet also has the Doom Guy ™ build so there's that.
mild oxide
I do like my doom guy build, but I just see Big Numbers as less exciting than Dog or DRUHGS. I dunno I like vet I just wish there was some kind of distinquishing feature to them.
fervent citrus
god i wish the infantry lasgun was good
cunning sandal
I do like my doom guy build, but I just see Big Numbers as less exciting than Do...
Having stupid Krak 'n' Shredder Frag Grenade builds is the distinguishing feature 
elder vessel
we should be able to take 2 blitz
half the grenades you can carry for both
but you can carry two kinds
cunning sandal
That would be disgustingly OP tbh
austere mica
Vet just being able to do everything more than usual with just their blitz slot
fervent citrus
the infantry lasgun was the reason i got darktide in the first place why cant fatshark do anything with it
mild oxide
Already got a talent to throw extra grenades, just throw one of each kind :3
elder vessel
Veterans Magic Bag of Tricks!
(hand grenades)
dapper coyote
Whip of doom
-# a Belt of Krak Grenades
tall torrent
I also hope that not **ALL** of their weapons are exclusive to them
nah they're exclusive
calm shard
surely they wouldn't be so cruel to zealot players as to add dual knives
and then not let zealot use them
tall torrent
surely they wouldn't be so cruel to zealot players as to add dual knives
I think they would
gilded vine
surely they wouldn't be so cruel to zealot players as to add dual knives
They probably will if they're the applies-chem-toxin melee weapon, which I think they are. But yeah Zealot should have two blades so they can cosplay death cult assassins
gilded vine
People seem to value ogryn's melee DoT
hollow ibex
The hiveman showing me his stub pistol
M1911*
tame lodge
People seem to value ogryn's melee DoT
Yeah because Ogryn big weapon, hit multiple targets
What's a knife coated in poison going to do
Hey I got an idea
calm shard
What's a knife coated in poison going to do
certainly about as much damage as serrated blade does
which is a lot
gilded vine
Well, I hope that it is balanced to be effective or will be in the following patches
wild vortex
surely they wouldn't be so cruel to zealot players as to add dual knives
I will drink sweet sweet shouty tears
kinda glad the unnecessary whining over Ganger has died down over the course of the day
personally looking forward to the class A LOT
hollow ibex
personally looking forward to the class A LOT
Same sounds amazing
dapper coyote
If Health stimm is available then that class would be based as fuck
Walking health stimm dispenser with akimbo (dual wielding) guns and crowbar
calm shard
If Health stimm is available then that class would be based as fuck
health stim +3 minute cooldown
tame lodge
gilded vine
health stim +3 minute cooldown
I do wonder if the custom stim cooldown also affects the stim dispenser doohickey ability cooldown
I assume so
thorn lark
I think they would
ogryn has a shield, arbites has a shield...
tall torrent
ogryn has a shield, arbites has a shield...
Not the same weapon tho
thorn lark
Ye I know, double wielding is one of the gimmick of the new class, I don't see them port it to another soon
jolly hemlock
dual wielding shields 
distant mural
Im fuming lads
vestal olive
dual wielding shields <a:nodders:1382748990780477541>
https://youtu.be/zeYyb8NFZ0o?t=122
but 2 of them
past saddle
Has anyone get good executioner stance build? (for doing penance)
azure narwhal
Oops wait 1 wrong node
past saddle
Not sure what gun would be good with this, I am clueless with anything beyond psyker haha - build is probably based on weapon
azure narwhal
azure narwhal
Not sure what gun would be good with this, I am clueless with anything beyond ps...
There are exceptions but most of everything
past saddle
There are exceptions but most of everything
what are exceptions?
calm shard
Not sure what gun would be good with this, I am clueless with anything beyond ps...
whuh
gun?
azure narwhal
what are exceptions?
Bolter and helbore stand out
For example
Combat shotgun
MMF keystone is smart choice
distant mural
Why WS on exe stance?
calm shard
Why WS on exe stance?
exe stance is long duration durability+stun immunity
and can easily let you pick specialists out of dense crowds
distant mural
exe stance is long duration durability+stun immunity
I mean why with WS
calm shard
why not
azure narwhal
WS is good regardless, it makes your melee that much easier via protection from stuns and constant toughness
From exe stance
calm shard
exe doesn't care how you kill the marked targets you just have to
azure narwhal
- speed and dodges from ws
distant mural
Idk i dont switch weapons while i do pewpew
azure narwhal
You haven't tried melee exe stance?
calm shard
I've been meaning to make a melee exe build because the personal durability from it is wild
distant mural
You haven't tried melee exe stance?
Abyssmal i hate how im zoomed in while its active
azure narwhal
Just don't eat overheads and ur good
Fair
Not the most fun thing but
Besides that ur basically immune to chip dmg
The toughness gen is batshit nuts
distant mural
I mean i do melee with it active just not really on purpose but on necessity
I usually go for left side instead
azure narwhal
I still use shout cuz im an old man but WS melee is definitely, very very good
With exe stance too
distant mural
Yeah i use it with shout if i go WS
burnt pelican
holy shit i tried smoke nades after a while
everyone on my team just kept getting netter and mutant charged from inside the smoke it was peak
legit troll nade
austere mica
Its good when there's actual ranged presence to justify it
burnt pelican
i mean yeah in some cases its good
austere mica
Which mostly means particularly nasty auric missions and high havoc
burnt pelican
its freaking stupid that hounds mutants and netters just ignore the smoke entirely when u cant even see them
austere mica
They don't actually
burnt pelican
welp maybe they werent working as intended?
mortal aspen
smokes are peak
but when there's a wall of crushers or a swarm of juiced up elites they do nothing
burnt pelican
idk id only consider bringing them on torrent and certain maps that have a shit ton of ranged most of the time
livid sphinx
The only time smoke became semi useful was during that plasma gunner event
burnt pelican
cheek clapper event
livid sphinx
Man, I loved that event. It made the game actually difficult without going H30+ on everyone's ass
red portal
Morning/afternoon/evening/night folks
north spoke
Mornin
tepid otter
Any fun build y'all enjoying on vet atm
pseudo fiber
Any fun build y'all enjoying on vet atm
Coles shovel db build
red portal
Any fun build y'all enjoying on vet atm
Powersword revolver with kraks
And weapon specialist
tame lodge
I wanna blow my laser load all over nurgle's face
Silly
You don't blow laser, it isn't an explosive
Smh
charred elm
what blessings do u guys take on power sword
distant mural
what blessings do u guys take on power sword
Flak maniac. Or flak unyield or cara unyield.
Blessings are power cycler and brumentum or sunder
Or slaughterer
But i think people agree that sunder is best.
Or brumentum
I like brumentum
turbid ibex
Sunder is good because it gives you a fuckton of effective cleave
tame lodge
Brutal Momentum is good because fuck 4 non Ogryns in particular
willow prairie
Flak maniac. Or flak unyield or cara unyield.
why would you need flak on fucking psword
willow prairie
Brutal Momentum is good because fuck 4 non Ogryns in particular
yeah when you 1 shot them
caxe kinda struggle with rager even with the amazing pa
distant mural
why would you need flak on fucking psword
Why woudnt you?
Pretty mich every enemy has it
To some extend
I dont understand people putting unyield on it honestly.
But i still put it as a suggestion
tame lodge
Bulwark prejudice
willow prairie
Why woudnt you?
I mean it's not like flak die in 1-2 hit anyway because its psword
and you delete boss faster
distant mural
and you delete boss faster
Om vet i have unyield on bolter for boss and oggy
I use p-sword for miced hordes etc
willow prairie
I just don't think it necessary because psword have good stagger against like everything
distant mural
I just don't think it necessary because psword have good stagger against like ev...
I like it it helps delete the horde very fast
I also have kraks for cara thats why i run flak maniac
Cause i usually just dont melee crushers.
willow prairie
I don't think it worth going for krak when you have psword since smoke and shredder are good value
and you can deal with cara just fine
distant mural
I don't think it worth going for krak when you have psword since smoke and shred...
I dont need shredder i have p-sword
willow prairie
also you need to take extra talent point for krak
shredder for staggering everything including bulwark
distant mural
also you need to take extra talent point for krak
I allways upgrade my nades
And take the extra ammount.
willow prairie
my point is you need the extra investment while smoke and shredder those node are nice to have
distant mural
Yeah i suppose
willow prairie
depend on build i can't justify giving it up
serene bough
Bulwark prejudice
This is ok bulwarks deserve their hatred
tall torrent
I dont understand people putting unyield on it honestly.
Bulwark 1 shot
turbid ibex
Also helps with bosses
gentle lake
I should put unyielding on my knife now that I think about it
tepid otter
Also helps with bosses
Good name
last mason
In general I don't understand why so many people take the flak + maniac mix on melee weapons. On ranged I get it, for gunner and flamer breakpoints
But why on melee? Don't you need one of your weapons to deal with crushers? And that's almost always your melee weapon
on P sword for instance with carapace you can kill crushers in 1 - 2 less hits
turbid ibex
On vet it doesnt really matter that much since you have kraks
last mason
if you're not running kraks it matters
last mason
sure but I even see people running that combo on relic blade zealot. Wtf are you gonna kill crushers with?
tame lodge
Mutants (although taking extra 2.somethin times melee damage are pretty common)
dapper coyote
sure but I even see people running that combo on relic blade zealot. Wtf are you...
Psword, Knifes, Chaxe, Caxe, Taxe
For melee ofc
last mason
like I said, relic blade zealot
dapper coyote
Oh i thought you are speaking on veteran considering this is the vet channel
tame lodge
It's a relic blade
last mason
I jumped in on the perk conversation and just bridged it to a build I don't understand
tame lodge
Don't worry about it
Just make sure it's powered
And it won't struggle against carapace
last mason
fair
tame lodge
Also I think the common options for RB are flak + elites/unarmored
I think the reason is pinned on zeal chat
Although that was old Zealot
Maybe someone should recheck that
steep flower
In general I don't understand why so many people take the flak + maniac mix on m...
Unless weapon can deal with carapace then nah; maniac it is; don’t forget that mutants are chonky
Also unyielding
steep flower
Also I think the common options for RB are flak + elites/unarmored
RB?
tame lodge
Relic Blade
steep flower
Ah i just saw
surreal rune
are people still angry over ganger
dapper coyote
They just pissed at the fact that the most unrealistic (chance) classes didn't get added
Ie: skitarii
And the one that they shit on so much for the past few days ended up being the one that's actually added lmao
tame lodge
They snuffed/injected too much hopium
But the people that sniped hive ganger being added is very suspicious
dapper coyote
It very is
topaz lance
They snuffed/injected too much hopium
People on reddit were going insane. People were having nightmares about it being a ganger. Losing sleep over it. Absolutely crazy.
dapper coyote
People on reddit were going insane. People were having nightmares about it being...
Tzeentch at work lmao
-# Pssssttt its the ganger
-# skitarii wont be added...
visual badge
so it's been a day
how is the situation on scum so far
people still crying and calling it reskinned veteran?
topaz lance
how is the situation on scum so far
Oh I'm scumming hard
turbid ibex
people still crying and calling it reskinned veteran?
Yep
marble mantle
How’s the power falchion?
tame lodge
The red robe people are experiencing hopium withdrawals rn
topaz lance
How’s the power falchion?
miiiiid
tame lodge
How’s the power falchion?
Mediocre
But it'll just work
marble mantle
What’s the dump stat, perks and blessings? I could check the doc but I don’t think I have m365 anymore
visual badge
dump stat is usually always mobility
marble mantle
dump stat is usually always mobility
Yeah but I gotta ask on the rare occasion that it’s not.
Pee sword is cleave targets so
tame lodge
I ain't going to remember the perks
But the blessings are dogshit so not a lot of options
Cranial Grounding + Leakage/Wrath
Heatsink is also there somewhere
Wrath is shit anyways
You have no real reason to perfect block, specially as veteran
Decapitator is unfortunately dogshit anyways
Overload wants you to overheat when you don't want to overheat the weapon
silver patrol
and does nothing anyway
unreal nova
Overload wants you to overheat when you don't want to overheat the weapon
It does meme damage that can't even kill on Sedation.
silver patrol
or better, the explosion is quite pathetic
unreal nova
Or well, do worthwhile damage. It doesn't do something fancy like stun things around either.
Which would make it slightly more worth when it runs out and everything near can't instagib you because meh weapon gets more meh when unactivated.
jaunty sphinx
Oh wait dump on psword is cleave targets? No wonder mine feels so non mobile
turbid ibex
I think cleave targets was the dump before the rework
surreal rune
i do not think ganger's marketing did it much justice but i do see much potential in ganger
turbid ibex
But now its mobility like most other weapons
jaunty sphinx
Ah
unreal nova
But now its mobility like most other weapons
Some still say cleave targets, you will always be activating it anyway. Though personally, doesn't matter that much.
distant mural
like I said, relic blade zealot
With eviscerator i still oneshot crushers with flak maniac lmao
distant mural
How’s the power falchion?
I played it a little more and its not that bad honestly. Its a lot safer then p-sword with more dodges.
And it still hits decently hard.
And u dont have to activate it every.single.time.
hoary gorge
People on reddit were going insane. People were having nightmares about it being...
consider the steam forums being mentally deranged
spark helm
On here not much yet after day 1 but elsewhere I'm sure. Idc much for darktide's community. Lots of willfully illiterate people
hybrid flame
So many people fanatasizing over the IP, unironically missing the entire concept at the core of WH.
being that, fanaticism and devotion taken too far is in itself an evil.
pearl oasis
I'm guessing that the best blessing for the infantry lasgun is something with crit weakspot?
Oh, my name is red now, neat
dapper coyote
Oh, my name is red now, neat
YOU GOT DA PERMS, QUICK POST FEET PICS (actually dont lmaoooooo)
pearl oasis
The temptation to post feline toe beans is indeed very great
burnt pelican
pearl oasis
Hmmm, I don't think my Vet is supposed to be wearing pants on her head
hybrid plover
But now its mobility like most other weapons
It's still cleave targets
turbid ibex
I see
hybrid plover
Legit no reason to have that stat when you have sunder or bromentum nullifying the need for it.
slow spade
Oh yeah I need to try Sunder
I keep forgetting about it
It affects light swings too right? ( I know the damage doesn't)
hollow ibex
It affects light swings too right? ( I know the damage doesn't)
yeah the cleave part does
steel barn
What is the best perk/blessing setup for Bolter on Vet? Currently running it as this but idk
turbid ibex
replace reload speed with maniac or unyielding, replace barrage with surgical
hollow ibex
What is the best perk/blessing setup for Bolter on Vet? Currently running it as ...
most basic standard build is cara+unyielding, pinning fire + puncture
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What is the best perk/blessing setup for Bolter on Vet? Currently running it as ...
cara unyielding pinning fire puncture
steel barn
Cool, thank u
Knew I needed to replace reload speed, wasn't sure what with
How come no Flak for Boltgun?
turbid ibex
there are very very very few weapons where not having both perk slots be +25% vs X enemies is even remotely worth considering
orchid hemlock
What is the best perk/blessing setup for Bolter on Vet? Currently running it as ...
inspiring
steel barn
there are very very very few weapons where not having both perk slots be +25% vs...
Yeah makes sense. I usually run +25% of 2 dmg types on my weapons anyway. How come Unyielding instead of Flak for boltgun in particular tho?
turbid ibex
unyielding helps with bulwarks reapers and monstrosities
and it doesnt really need flak perk to hit breakpoints iirc
specially with vet
hybrid plover
Yeah with the update, pinning fire stacks in general make bolter way more consistent with smaller targets.
Might as well use the perks for the bigger ones.
hollow ibex
yup PF is very important
pseudo fiber
So if the scums pistols or smgs fire 2 rounds at a time would they give 1 Stack of dumdum or 2?
steel barn
and it doesnt really need flak perk to hit breakpoints iirc
Oh right, cool. I forget that Bulwarks and Reapers are unyielding tbh
steel barn
Might as well use the perks for the bigger ones.
True, that's pretty much what i've been using it for
Is it worth doing Carapace/Unyielding on Plasma Gun too then or does that want flak?
livid hill
https://youtube.com/shorts/bEXMEWl80eY?si=Ylnk2zpHfNY-6U9a
why did he say this
turbid ibex
Is it worth doing Carapace/Unyielding on Plasma Gun too then or does that want f...
unarmored and flak or maniac
plasma is not a boss killer
steel barn
Oh ok, more of a horde clear weapon and elite/specialist killer?
turbid ibex
yeah elite and special
with the benefit of insane cleave
also dont bother with charged shots
slow spade
yeah the cleave part does
Ah ok, thank you c:
slow spade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1439812462336802929/D...
Oh interesting, I will miss the +15% weakspot damage from momentum but that cleave is very interesting 🤔
turbid ibex
you have effectively 40-ish cleave with sunder
quick seal
Anything going on between now and December?
inner iris
is rending strikes worth it?
slow spade
is rending strikes worth it?
It's alright but I don't go out of my way for it
inner iris
any idea about how much more damage it'd give me?
tame lodge
is rending strikes worth it?
Depends on the weapon
Infantry Lasgun usually runs it
Power Midchion usually runs it
turbid ibex
any idea about how much more damage it'd give me?
depends on how much your weapon's ADMs suck
potent crypt
Ok partners who got the BEST HELBORE BUILD
turbid ibex
i think its john
potent crypt
Link?
turbid ibex
he is two blocks down the street
willow prairie
bruh my laptop autoupdated
istg i had it disabled in both registry + service
fucking ai update ah I don't want this shi
😭
thorn lark
Hmm i kinda dig the hsword on vet
willow prairie
it delete everything that isn't cara or boss in 2 hit
livid hill
i really wish that they made the headshot radius for infantry lasguns larger like they did with helbores
unless they did and I just such
drifting verge
What’s the dump stat and set up for plasma gun
tame lodge
@tired egret
livid hill
I don't think they have touched ilas
why i dont get it
serene bough
It just got power crept and overshadowed with the meta
Even if you buff it probably wont be very popular with the current meta
slow spade
Ilas is funny in that one of the ilas marks hasn't been touched since release
So you can numerically see how the best Vet gun turns into arguably one of the worst in real time
The slow fire rate, high damage one
RIP Kantreal mk12
livid hill
It just got power crept and overshadowed with the meta
yeah but its genuinely hard to use
serene bough
I will admit the hitbox is really small
slow spade
Indeed, there used to be a time where it was the best vet gun for a long time :c
serene bough
I swear I will shoot at things and miss by a nose hair
faint beacon
Power creep isn’t real Mfers when they’re shown the Kantrael 12 Lasgun
livid hill
I swear I will shoot at things and miss by a nose hair
exactly
that isnt the case with helbore anymore
slow spade
I think it's bad hit reg, the Mk12 got fucked by that even when it was popular
livid hill
yeah it SORT OF makes up for it with higher fire rate but i feel like it still needs something
slow spade
100 cleave c:
serene bough
At this point I feel like IIb should be burst fire and XII should have some rending built into it
In addition to QoL and stat buffs like larger hurtbox and less recoil/more dmg
livid hill
100 cleave c:
doesnt really help it IMO, yeah its cool and nice but idk....
just needs larger hurtbox
livid hill
In addition to QoL and stat buffs like larger hurtbox and less recoil/more dmg
im fine with recoil I just wish i could hit headshots
tame lodge
It's also the backbone of the imperium
It shouldn't slurp your stamina while sprinting
slow spade
doesnt really help it IMO, yeah its cool and nice but idk....
100 cleave, assail tracking
livid hill
It's also the backbone of the imperium
yeaaaa
tame lodge
I got a reality check when I noticed that my main iLas had 80 mob instead of 60
So when I swapped to a 60mob
Insta regret
slow spade
Yoi can probably justify 60% ammo on it with shocktrooper
fair shale
Alright vets
I think my arb vacation is over
What're we running nowadays
Grenade of choice, survivalist, bottom right tree?
slow spade
Yeah actually you pretty much nailed it
fair shale
War, war never changes.
slow spade
"+70% damage for playing correctly" thank you Right side tree
fair shale
Lmfao real
tall torrent
What're we running nowadays
fair shale
I love being rewarded for playing games correctly
hollow ibex
Grenade of choice, survivalist, bottom right tree?
Bottom left is also very strong because MMF carries it hard. Middle is mostly for some essentials like cdr and toughness. I don’t think FT is very good atm
tall torrent
Some variation of this
fair shale
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185515648206512168/1440127153697062993/S...
Power of choice?
tall torrent
Power of choice?
Wouldn’t call it much choice
slow spade
Could try Born Leader for team 2% toughness regen in coherency
tall torrent
meh
fair shale
Could try Born Leader for team 2% toughness regen in coherency
Fuck em, I've played the other classes
They can gen their own toughness
slow spade
I try to run born leader these days for all the coherency buffs vet has
tall torrent
Love me walls
slow spade
Demo team, close quarter order, aura, etc
fair shale
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/13986034573341890201/FA6386F56D704EBFE8E61A...
you get it lmfao
I run it on every class that gets it
ES, DD, EO
Love information
tall torrent
you get it lmfao
stance isn't rly a ranged ability to me anymore
fair shale
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185515648206512168/1440127153697062993/S...
Do you actually run field resupply?
tall torrent
Do you actually run field resupply?
for power sword no
fair shale
Was gonna say
tame lodge
Tbf
Not a lot of options up there
fair shale
Nah, Trench and Bleed for me i think
hollow ibex
tall torrent
serrated is very marginal extra dmg
tall torrent
It's dopamine tbh
it's pointless tax
tall torrent
I can count on 1 hand how many enemies actually died to serrated's bleed DOT
fair shale
Nah I agree
hollow ibex
there should just be a route to skip everything in that row
Fucking seriously
Insane how even after rework vets still getting shit taxes
slow spade
I usually take Field Improv so I can be the guy that spams nades c:
fair shale
Maybe I'll start using Helbore tbh
You can do that anyway ime
Unless rng really hates you
fair shale
Ig rot armor calls for desperate measures
So like
Is the combat shotgun vet build a meme?
Like more for auric fun than 40 clears
tall torrent
Is the combat shotgun vet build a meme?
no
but
don't think agrip7 is as good as zarona revolver
tall torrent
u can hit some interesting breakpoints with agrip7 tho
fair shale
Like?
fair shale
I simply like the aesthetics of shotguns
Like to be real with you the main draw of arb for me for so long is how good shotguns felt to use on them
tame lodge
Like more for auric fun than 40 clears
I think @calm shard brings shotgun to havoc for the funny
calm shard
I do not do it for the funny
fair shale
Oh hell yeah
tall torrent
however
fair shale
Does agrip one tap them to the head on vet?
calm shard
yeah easily
fair shale
Yeah I can defo work with that
tall torrent
Does agrip one tap them to the head on vet?
needs some spec
calm shard
slug with no damage buffs or anything hits unyielding for over 4K I think
just by default
tall torrent
issue is shotgun costs more points to run than revolver while having worse breakpoints
it's a fun sidegrade that's overall weaker
primal bobcat
Toughness or Health curios if im looking to start in Havoc ?
fair shale
That's acceptable tbh
fair shale
Toughness or Health curios if im looking to start in Havoc ?
Health/tough/stam ime
21/17/3
primal bobcat
One curio worth of each actually matters ?
seems like a small amount to me (Acutal question not critisism )
fair shale
1 health stops you from getting absolutely nuked by PBs on higher havocs and let's you take a lil chip
Vet has asthmatic lungs(not as bad as before) and needs the stam
calm shard
Vet has asthmatic lungs(not as bad as before) and needs the stam
left tree 0.5s stam delay privilege
fair shale
Lmfao real
tall torrent
and u may need to block rager/cspawn/psword combo every now and then
tall torrent
Is the shotgun build just the one Sirosky posts on occasion?
he runs MF I think?
I don't
I use WS
fair shale
I'll play around, try both. Think I'll prefer WS tho.
primal bobcat
So for curio perks. Gunner resist/ Ability regen/ revive speed ?
fair shale
Right side tree is just goofy
primal bobcat
Thats what I play with right now
fair shale
Thank you
calm shard
what blessings/perks should I for graia vigilant?
I've only used columnus/agri since their buffs
tall torrent
So for curio perks. Gunner resist/ Ability regen/ revive speed ?
I personally don't think ability regen worth on any class besides psyker atm
calm shard
surgical obv
tall torrent
what blessings/perks should I for graia vigilant?
maniac + flak
austere pine
how do i make falchion work?
primal bobcat
From what I hear ( I know nothing about vet) Get a power sword
thorn lark
how do i make falchion work?
you take psword
austere pine
nay, i say!
primal bobcat
Otherwise, build your tallents around what it and your gun's strengths and you will do ok
sleek rune
whats the best veteran build for havoc besides the boring dueling sword/plasma gun shit?
zealous bridge
i need some advice, what do u guys think about +10% melee atk speed ? is it a must on vet ?
fair shale
I personally don't think ability regen worth on any class besides psyker atm
Its uh, Unyielding, Cara, Cycler, Sunder VI PS and Unyielding, Cara, Man Stopper, No Respite Agri, right?
calm shard
i need some advice, what do u guys think about +10% melee atk speed ? is it a mu...
depends on the weapon
some don't care others do
tall torrent
Its uh, Unyielding, Cara, Cycler, Sunder VI PS and Unyielding, Cara, Man Stopper...
u sure no full bore?
zealous bridge
im using the ds rn
fair shale
Ig itd be full bore on vet
fair shale
u sure no full bore?
Yeah you right, brain was elsewhere
calm shard
if you're playing exe 100% full bore
rugged bane
Helbore Exe is pretty solid, I think.
zealous bridge
doesnt feel much different tho
calm shard
ain't nothing gonna survive 2 shots even without no respite
fair shale
Ill take 7 out of 8 correct tbh
austere pine
no but seriously how do i build a falchion
zealous bridge
some don't care others do
can i get away with ds tho ?
austere pine
because i do enjoy the weapon but i've no clue how good it actually is or how i make it worth my time more
austere pine
can i get away with ds tho ?
how much do you shoot
zealous bridge
how much do you shoot
pretty often i guess, im building a hellbore
austere pine
don't need it then
my philosophy with the talent is that, with how much you use your melee, those 10% stack up well throughout the match
primal bobcat
dose no one do Mortis anymore? Its how I leveled all my weapons so far 😛 because its just horde mode
austere pine
but lasguns, especially if you take the mandatory shock trooper talent, you'll be able to shoot forever and then some
(provided you hit your shots)
austere pine
dose no one do Mortis anymore? Its how I leveled all my weapons so far 😛 becaus...
i hate how little i get to shoot in the game mode
zealous bridge
my philosophy with the talent is that, with how much you use your melee, those 1...
thats a good point, ty man
austere pine
and that i don't get to pick whichever... mutator? augment? i want at the start
primal bobcat
I am enjoying the laser hose (I forget what its called)
austere pine
because i refuse to play with the electricity one or the fire/elec one
fair shale
Accatran, recon lasgun
tame lodge
And they look cool
fair shale
There's a certain catharsis cycling a pump shotgun has
primal bobcat
I just like shotguns tbh
Love me a Shotty in theory in any game...In practice Kicky on ogryn and the Arbi ones are the only ones I enjoy here
fair shale
I dont even use the arby shotgun on arby tbh
tame lodge
Yeah because Arby's mid
primal bobcat
Yea there are other good options but its fun 😛
tame lodge
calm shard
I dont even use the arby shotgun on arby tbh
it sounds so good but it's so mid
fair shale
It feels great
calm shard
all style no substance
fair shale
When youre not in havoc
tall torrent
I dont even use the arby shotgun on arby tbh
I like mk3 more
it's a valid specialty weapon
fair shale
Than 8?
Tbh
I think 3 is an excellent mixed horde sweeper with Death Spitter and Scattershot
rugged breach
what is the best melee weapon? to pair with Double barrel shotgun
tame lodge
what is the best melee weapon? to pair with Double barrel shotgun
Power Sword then Rashad Axe
Then the mid tier Shovel
rugged breach
Power Sword then Rashad Axe
Then the mid tier Shovel
how about Devil Claw? i enjoy parrying
rugged breach
God that poor weapon
tame lodge
how about Devil Claw? i enjoy parrying
It'll work
But I can't say it's good
Specially when you ask about the Best melee
💀
fair shale
Yeah
rugged breach
Bro I love that thing but it ain't worth it
i didn't enjoy power sword all that much because i forgot to click the abilty
rugged breach
Specially when you ask about the Best melee
i didn't know its bad, sorry
will keep in mind
fair shale
i didn't enjoy power sword all that much because i forgot to click the abilty
You might like CAxe then
Rashad with Brutal Momentum
tame lodge
i didn't know its bad, sorry
It's usable but needs to be better
austere pine
or falchion to learn to activate
rugged breach
You might like CAxe then
probably yeah. Rashad is a unique version of it or?
fair shale
If you really like to parry they put parry on DS
I hate to reccomend DS but
I cannot in good faith say DC is a good weapon
rugged breach
I cannot in good faith say DC is a good weapon
thank you for your honesty
rugged breach
or falchion to learn to activate
Caxe is it 😭
austere pine
i still have no clue how to make falchion work and me getting ignored twice already makes me think others also don't
tall torrent
i still have no clue how to make falchion work and me getting ignored twice alre...
it's essentially a whole lot of copium
rugged breach
i still have no clue how to make falchion work and me getting ignored twice alre...
what is a Falchion?
tame lodge
Any combo that uses Falchions heavy attacks are bad
tall torrent
Any combo that uses Falchions heavy attacks are bad
No
austere pine
well how am i gonna get strikedowns otherwise
clever hedge
i still have no clue how to make falchion work and me getting ignored twice alre...
Power leak and grounding, maniac unarmored seems to work pretty well. Unless they have carapace then you cry
tall torrent
U can get reasonably high single target dps with falchion
However its mixed horde & stagger are pretty bad, especially when it’s not turned on (which u will have to deal with)
austere pine
like yeah heavies aren't good on the weapon but what am i gonna do, spam l2s to the best of my ability?
rugged breach
U can get reasonably high single target dps with falchion
However its mixed hor...
what if i need a weapon for hordes? i got Shotgun for single targets
austere pine
i've noticed carapace makes me piss my pants
rugged breach
https://tenor.com/view/peaceemote-peace-peaceful-gif-15091939045954194911
Caxe
okay
thank you
austere pine
https://tenor.com/view/peaceemote-peace-peaceful-gif-15091939045954194911
they'll tell you it's not a good idea, but brauto
wait wrong reply
wait i'm tired and stupid
shotgun for single
rugged breach
wait i'm tired and stupid
its okay
rugged breach
shotgun for single
double barrel
tall torrent
falchion is fairly decent at single target when activated
austere pine
for horde on vet? caxe
rugged breach
with perks for single target
tall torrent
u just can't make all its attacks activated
unlike power sword
and it's way way way way worse than power sword
rugged breach
with perks for single target
it one shots a mutant and im building wrong
so it must be good
inner iris
is charging shots on plasma gun worth it?
tame lodge
It'll suck against carapace
tall torrent
what if i need a weapon for hordes? i got Shotgun for single targets
Weren’t u gonna use combat axe
tame lodge
So bring a Krak nade
tall torrent
Combat axe alrdy deals with everything
rugged breach
Weren’t u gonna use combat axe
i was asking if its good, but now that i do
i will use Caxe
tame lodge
is charging shots on plasma gun worth it?
Short answer no
tall torrent
Maniac flak
Manstopper flechette
austere pine
flechette, my despised
fiery vortex
which shovel is the best one again?
sharp epoch
power shovel
fiery vortex
embed fail
tame lodge
which shovel is the best one again?
They are all mid but we often recommend the standard one
fiery vortex
like, which mark
fiery vortex
Are you sure they're mid?
tame lodge
It just used to be called standard
fiery vortex
Mr. E speak shighly of them
tame lodge
Are you sure they're mid?
Sure as hell
tame lodge
In general
fiery vortex
ok, so
if I don't wanna run dueling sword, what other options are there that can stand up to armor?
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Ps6
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if I don't wanna run dueling sword, what other options are there that can stand ...
Power sword
fiery vortex
why the axes? Everyone says they're awful
fair shale
Power Sword would cleave the world in twain if it was long enough
fiery vortex
randoms in lobbies
the most trusted source of advise
also with power sword don't you have to charge it for every hit?
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the power cycler in question
tall torrent
also with power sword don't you have to charge it for every hit?
Yea
fiery vortex
wait holdup, do weapon blessings from hadron stack with weapon blessings from mastery?
fair shale
You get your weapon blessings from hadron by unlocking them with mastery
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silk solstice
how’s ur fov like that I NEED IT
fiery vortex
wait
fair shale
Did you think
fiery vortex
wait so they don't automatically
fair shale
Mastery just
fiery vortex
oh my god this makes so much sense
fair shale
Slapped every perk on your stuff?
fair shale
Yeah, that'd do it to you.
tame lodge
why the axes? Everyone says they're awful
So everyone saying that don't know what they are talking about
fiery vortex
I've been hit with a lethal dose of truth
tall torrent
how’s ur fov like that I NEED IT
Go to user_settings.config and change vfov’s number
Mine is 108
Game default max is 85
faint beacon
the most trusted source of advise
Bro I’m about to actually Fent fold if I see more axe slander
Cause they’re are genuinely really good on Vet now
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So everyone saying that don't know what they are talking about
Rashad is not good actually!!!!!! believe me I tested it in sedition psykhanium!!!
silk solstice
Go to user_settings.config and change vfov’s number
i play on. xbox
can i still do it
fiery vortex
Bro I’m about to actually Fent fold if I see more axe slander
the carnival slump
tall torrent
i play on. xbox
Uhh don’t think so sorry
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average obese fish L
short agate
I just like the diff sounds tac axe makes in frenetic combat, many good thunks
jaunty sphinx
It's really nice
primal bobcat
First time using Rapier and Plasma Rifle. Loved the Rapier but what is the use case for the Plasma Rifle. The charge seems slow . (Im leveling a grey one right now
primal bobcat
Ohhh I see. So its just my inexperience gotya
tame lodge
First time using Rapier and Plasma Rifle. Loved the Rapier but what is the use c...
The use case is quickly dispatching elites and specialists
You basically never charge it
And always aim for the heads
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I love clicking heads
tame lodge
Just don't use against carapace, it's not worth the ammo
primal bobcat
Well obviously go for headshots I was tryin to charge it to much was my problem 😛
tame lodge
Yeah unfortunately Plasma gun is just M1 spam ad boredom
slate wave
That’s why I prefer my heavy las pistol at least I never waste ammo
calm shard
DB shotty is also m1 spam
double barrel m2 one shots maulers and ragers
primal bobcat
levelling meta weapons now ...ill do that next for fun
calm shard
JOKES ON YOU THE DOUBLE BARREL IS ONE OF THE META WEAPONS
definitely weirder playstyle than plasma gun though
mortal aspen
*double barrel m2 one shots maulers and ragers*
hmm
narrow widget
levelling meta weapons now ...ill do that next for fun
level the bolter my beloved
mortal aspen
it's kinda awkward to try to keep 2 shells loaded, is that worth it?
calm shard
no
calm shard
Middest weapon in the game
the GOAT of mid tier
OKAY damage DECENTstagger
NICHE utility
primal bobcat
level the bolter my beloved
Did that FIRST 😄
primal bobcat
it's kinda awkward to try to keep 2 shells loaded, is that worth it?
Id say you play it like the super shotgun in doom....fuck single shots all or nuthing
tall torrent
Middest weapon in the game
Nah
crisp oak
Id say you play it like the super shotgun in doom....fuck single shots all or nu...
Well you can reload your gun with melee kills
tame lodge
Nah
There is no way there's a midder weapon
Is midder even a word
It is a word
But doesn't mean mid
Anyways what's your middest weapon
If you have one
Or are you going to tell me there's no middest weapon because all weapons pend to one side
hollow ibex
Chord for me prob
tall torrent
Anyways what's your middest weapon
Prob Chainsword
hollow ibex
Smh just copying my opinions
fair shale
I wish Chord/Evis felt better
Chain weapons are the iconic 40k weapon alongside the bolter for me
tame lodge
As someone with 2k hours of Evis15
I can definitely say
Very biased so
That Evis is goated
ocean idol
WAIT WHAT wtf is power falchion, when did it appear
tame lodge
Last update
hollow ibex
WAIT WHAT wtf is power falchion, when did it appear
Last major patch
ocean idol
is it good?
tame lodge
Eh
tall torrent
is it good?
We wish
fair shale
That Evis is goated
Sell me on it cause that thing never felt like, great or wonderful to me. Last time I used it was way back when it cleaved maybe 5 poxxies tops tho iirc.
tame lodge
Well if you want me to sell you on it I'll just have to say that it kills everything
But if you want me to be honest
I spam revved attacks like crazy
So the gameplay loop is repetitive
And I mean it
Bloodthirsty Evis15 just mulches through everything
austere pine
what's the new bolter supposed to be good at?
fair shale
Bloodthirsty Evis15 just mulches through everything
Ill try it cause I'm finally about to relevel zealot, no promises
tame lodge
But evis is not known for great dodges , nor staggering multiple Ragers
ocean idol
Bloodthirsty Evis15 just mulches through everything
is that one blessings that gives 100% crit?
tame lodge
what's the new bolter supposed to be good at?
AoE
ocean idol
i liked it
tame lodge
is that one blessings that gives 100% crit?
Yup
Basically rev spam
Rev light for hordes
Rev heavy for everything else
New bolter is supposed to have greater AoE
ocean idol
were there any other new weapons?
austere pine
at the cost of damage, ammo, fire rate
tame lodge
New bolter and bolt pistol variants
austere pine
honestly, i've seen worse deals
spark helm
Executioner sword is to vermindtide 2 as mk15 eviscerator is to darktide.
ocean idol
What do they change
ocean idol
Executioner sword is to vermindtide 2 as mk15 eviscerator is to darktide.
except exe sword was meta
spark helm
And mk15 eviscerator is too on zealot to a degree.