veteran-class

[calm shard]

it's fine their stimms are cool and blessed by the emperor

[frozen flint]

are we expecting any changes to other classes when ganger release?

[visual badge]

doubt it, maybe some buffs/nerfs

[lusty sapphire]

Why would they? Slaanesh maybe but what's nurgle gotta do with drugs and criminal activities

[calm shard]

I hope to god this is the patch where Psyker and Rumbler get real nerfs

[narrow widget]

it's ok bro you can trust zola
nevermind that she's probably connected to wolfer

[gaunt laurel]

do we have evidence of this
or are they being manufactured by the Morningstar's crew specifically to be uncorrupted

[narrow widget]

[hollow ibex]

You thought admech was coming didn’t you

[viral plank]

Kinda wish my Zealot could have something as customizable as the ganger stims but idk what item it would be.

[gaunt laurel]

The Blight was transmitted by corrupted drugs

[visual badge]

all I know is that if arbites and ganger are in the same mission together, it's turning into a pvp situation

[gaunt laurel]

yyeah

[grim sonnet]

stop resisting!

[gaunt laurel]

like, I will admit, I was part of the Admech crowd bc I didn't want my second favorite class to be diluted into "Plasma guy" again

[calm shard]

loose cannon makes it a 2v1

bad odds

[viral plank]

Nahh loose cannon if bffs with one of the arby's

he said so himself

[visual badge]

loose cannon is going to be simping for the male ganger vas

[hollow ibex]

It won’t. Just like how arbi doesn’t impact vet

[visual badge]

or the gangers are going to call loose cannon pathetic for switching sides

I can't wait to hear the banter between them

[gaunt laurel]

plus, I like Admech a lot, I love their aesthetic
but, if we're getting a ganger, I at least hope they have a unique niche

[calm shard]

I dunno man reading about our newest hive boy is affecting me

[visual badge]

"its over" shouts the reddit hivemind not even 1 second after the reveal

why would they add admech anyway

[gaunt laurel]

bc I don't mind a new class, as long as they have a unique niche to fill

[visual badge]

if admech gets added, the situation is fucked beyond control

[tall torrent]

they do

[visual badge]

atoma is basically lost at that point

[pseudo fiber]

I mean read the blogs and come to your own conclusions

[calm shard]

shout out to the admech telling Rannick that Atoma needs to be exterminatus'd in the mortis trials

[visual badge]

that's what I am saying

the moment admech gets added, the situation is over

[gaunt laurel]

like, all I really wanted was a support character like an adept to assist (bc I enjoy support, and currently I haven't found much in the way of supporting my other players beyond being walking boss-shredder or plasma sniper with boost shout)

[hollow ibex]

I still think they’re more stepping on the toes of zealot tbh. But we’ll see

[calm shard]

nah you get support character (drugs)

[visual badge]

ganger definitely seems more like overstepping into zealot's territory

but gun flavored

[tall torrent]

not sure abt that tbh

[hollow ibex]

I guess it depends on how good their medium and long range weapons are

[visual badge]

well its dipping the toes

[calm shard]

the VIGILANT AUTOGUN

[hollow ibex]

Are they getting vigils?

[calm shard]

I have no idea probably

[faint beacon]

If they are getting the Vigils the uh

[calm shard]

I think the only weapons they'd reasonably not be getting is like

[visual badge]

gangers should beat up other rejects and steal their guns

[faint beacon]

yeah they immediately have good ranged options

[hollow ibex]

Feels like a weird gun

[calm shard]

imperial guard equipment maybe

[hollow ibex]

For them to get

[calm shard]

so no bolters

no chord/chaxe

[hollow ibex]

Braced and IAG would feel more thematically appropriate

[calm shard]

ah okay then they have agri iag for medium/long range

[visual badge]

ganger could make braced actually good

[calm shard]

no

no they couldn't

unless it gets buffed

[serene bough]

I think the class is overall pretty unique compared to others

[hollow ibex]

Maybe ganger can save the braced dodge profile

[serene bough]

At most left ability looks like castigators stance

[calm shard]

yeah it's almost like they literally designed ganger by looking at the other 5 classes and going "What haven't we done yet?"

And then making a class for that role

[visual badge]

no you dont get it

they clearly shouldve sticked those things onto other classes

[narrow widget]

I'm excited for the next class to be shout 3x as abilities

[visual badge]

how dare they

clearly veteran should get a missile launcher

from where? I dunno

[serene bough]

imo arby didnt come out that unique but this class looks like it will hit that goal better

[visual badge]

ignore that veteran is just your run of the mill guardsman with some expertise

[unique orchid]

there's nothing wrong with a "john doe" to contrast to

[gaunt laurel]

I gave it a read
and I... still am not the biggest fan, bc I'd rather not be playing a ravenous loudmouth
but it's whatever. It's still likely gonna be good, and hopefully supportive enough to fill that niche, but otherwise I'm indifferent to it

[narrow widget]

vet 2 with a dog vs vet 3 with a rocket launcher

call it

[visual badge]

"ravenous loudmouth"

aka loose cannon

[unique orchid]

ganger is... fine, i guess

[gaunt laurel]

I don't like loose cannon either

[unique orchid]

ganger wasnt what i was hoping for mostly

[visual badge]

I doubt all the voices are just going to be loose cannon

there is probably going to be some "professional"-ish voice

[serene bough]

I know this is just a meme but why is this vet 3

[visual badge]

because apparently, they have an ammo sharing aura, which means it's clearly another veteran

[narrow widget]

they have an ammo aura of some kind idk I didn't really think too much into it

[tall torrent]

they have aura that gives team bit of ammo when anyone picks up ammo

[visual badge]

also they have a firing stance, which is nothing alike to executioner stance

but that is also one of the reasons

[gaunt laurel]

and a regenerating resource that they can customize

[visual badge]

what other class has their own regenerating resource?

[tall torrent]

they have 2 stance abilities, one of which gives infinite ammo & is range focused

[visual badge]

dont you dare say the grenade

[narrow widget]

not vet

[regal smelt]

big disagree on the close ranged archetype not already being a thing

[serene bough]

Their stance looks more like casti stance over exe stance

[visual badge]

that's what it literally is, but people cant read

[tall torrent]

sorta

[visual badge]

they just see enter stance and go "rip veteran"

[unique orchid]

at least we're getting a new mission out of the update as well

[gaunt laurel]

It is the grenade. Mind you, I do like that there are regenerating stimms, as it does not step on the grenade regen talent. And for that, I am happy

[unique orchid]

that and the hundred billion urban youth thatll now be in the missions with us

[visual badge]

the new class after hive scum is going to be a child soldier class

[regal smelt]

grim dark genz

[visual badge]

anything but to call the admech

[grim sonnet]

finally, a good class

[gaunt laurel]

That's just Space Marines though

[stiff glacier]

Light infantry is the correct term

[gaunt laurel]

like that is what the Space Marines are, they're augmented child soldiers

[calm shard]

ogryn is already that tho

[grim sonnet]

killing heretics and hitting that vape

[stiff glacier]

I kinda wonder what weapons hivescum will be pulling from existing ones. Autoguns, axes, devil claws and chainweapons are probablt given.

[visual badge]

cant wait for the rest of the weapons to be the worst of all combined

[unique orchid]

likely just the autoguns and axes, theyll use mostly their own stuff

[visual badge]

oh hell yeah give me the devil claw

never touching that but hell yea

[serene bough]

So this stimm lab is a unique talent tree to the class?

[unique orchid]

seems so

[tall torrent]

Yea they have 2 trees

[serene bough]

I see

The way its worded it sounds like if you take this stim you cant use world pick up stims

[regal smelt]

1 point for every level does sound nutes, like a full extra tree

[unique orchid]

yes, that's how it works

[serene bough]

Wait I cant read it literally says that

[tall torrent]

Yes but ur own stim is on CD instead of pickup

[serene bough]

[unique orchid]

pat pat, there there big man

[serene bough]

Wonder how nuts that tree will be

[sharp epoch]

wow they got their own scavenger now

[rough adder]

Unwavering focus is back lmao

[visual badge]

that's called ghost

[sharp epoch]

immune is crazy

unwavering never made you straight up immune

[unique orchid]

it's gonna last like 2 seconds if you dont get any kills just watch

[visual badge]

that's probably the case

[rough adder]

I mean the point of unwavering is that you can face tank shooters

[regal smelt]

I cant wait for ganger to get a grenade launcher it's going to be so funny

[rough adder]

And old vet can get back toughness really easily

So it basically have the same function of "stop caring about ranged damage when you are in ult"

[silver patrol]

yooo a free reload

[rough adder]

yeah also free reload

this is literally old vet

[regal smelt]

I wonder if the free reload also doesn't take ammo from reserve

[rough adder]

need close range kill though so thats different

[regal smelt]

literally free perhaps

[silver patrol]

it does say it's free

as in literally free

[grim sonnet]

it says that yeah

[regal smelt]

reloading during the ability sure, but it doesn't specify if the instant reload on use gets that too

[silver patrol]

right

[stiff glacier]

Im most intrested in the support side of stimming allies

[visual badge]

reading comprehension is strong in this chat

its even in bold

[stiff glacier]

And also hope hair choices are not all just funky mad max style

[narrow widget]

drug ur friends

[silver patrol]

they will also be funky cyberpunk style

[grim sonnet]

Bald option please

[hollow ibex]

Good friends share drugs

[stiff glacier]

I want my grounded short hair or crew cuts

Aint fan of mohawks and wilder side of hairstyles

[unique orchid]

you will be disappointed

[stiff glacier]

As long as og choices are there

I wont be

[calm shard]

https://imgur.com/a/pRvvoz3

[stiff glacier]

And i can always get hat if all else fails

[visual badge]

facetank shooters

have you considered killing them?

[calm shard]

easier to do when you don't have to move tbh

[rough adder]

bro try shooting and killing a room of 40 scab shooters on damnation on release without unwavering focus

[visual badge]

well run ghost

[regal smelt]

have you tried shooting

[visual badge]

yes I do that when I stay in the back of the group with helbore

I dont see why I have to get their attention

[calm shard]

are we playing the release of the game?

[visual badge]

also damnation

isnt that auric now

[rough adder]

We don't have unwavering focus now either

What are we even trying to debate

[calm shard]

well

[visual badge]

to win is to not play the game

[rough adder]

I am trying to say it have the same utility of unwavering focus

[calm shard]

yeah vet still has that actually

Tunnel Vision from the MMF Keystone

+60% toughness replenished at 15 stacks is a fuckton of durability

[visual badge]

I play veteran class, I cant aim

[calm shard]

16% toughness a second from exe is enough to tank shooters if you aren't literally standing still

if there are gunners for you to kill you're rapidly going to be at 50-60% toughness a second

effectively invincible

[ancient path]

Im enjoying all the seppuku on the darktide reddit rn

[visual badge]

it is really funny

[ancient path]

"wehh class isnt what i spent hours and months theorycrafting and concept building and the leaaaks" 😭

the new class isnt a SISTER OF BATTLE wehhh 😭

[visual badge]

people want an admech

not realizing the moment we get an admech, atoma is lost

[ancient path]

i dont even think that would be remotely on the menu. a ganger makes more sense

[oblique totem]

What's up, gamers?

[ancient path]

The maps we've been on and the stuff we've been dealing with like illegal stim trades

[ancient path]

enjoying reddit tears

[rough adder]

It's better if you can get attention so your teammate can advance more easily. And I know there are ways to play without unwavering focus its just that when you pick it its usually the utility of that.
Also what are you even trying to debate with me? I'm just putting it there because unwavering focus was a big meme and I find it funny this is essentially the same thing.

[unique orchid]

i keep saying combat servitor, it would make sense for securing Moebian Steel

since theyre expendable, cheap, shitty little fighting lobotomites

[ancient path]

none of that sounds exciting to play lol

[unique orchid]

neither does drugged up hooligan

[calm shard]

I doubt people would be interested in playing them

[oblique totem]

I saw the hive ganger announcement and raced right over here. General chat is on fire.
Vet 3 confirmed. Let me hold more guns.

[ancient path]

For a game with big personalities on our characters, to play a lobotomite....

[calm shard]

Jinx from League of Legends

one of the most popular characters in the game design wise last I recall

[ancient path]

?? That sounds hype as fuck lol

[calm shard]

drugged up hooligan design with a minigun and a rocket launcher

[visual badge]

"vet is over" the crowd screams in unison as the new class literally does nothing that vet does

[ancient path]

"you wouldnt want to play a lobomite vs a crackhead wielding a rocket launcher???"

[calm shard]

It does have an ammo related aura

[unique orchid]

eh, ganger isnt for me

[ancient path]

lmfao thats so fucking dumb

[calm shard]

And thank fuck for a second ammo related aura to be honest

[stiff glacier]

I think people thinking we'd get admech were deluding themselves

Hard

[ancient path]

And again, taking out one of the biggest draws (the personalities) of darktide to play something without one is really silly

[shadow dagger]

okay I might be coping but is it possible to 1head a rotten armor berserker if you stack enough bullshit

[ancient path]

Would you like non descriptive groans #1 or #2

[livid hill]

Does 2 things

MAYYYBE 3

[oblique totem]

Shoot gun, take stims

[visual badge]

its clearly over for us

[elder vessel]

wait till we tell "vet is over" crowd that every class shoots guns

[ancient path]

DO NOT BECOME ADDICTED TO SHITTY YOUTUBE HYPE AND LEAKS.

IT WILL CONSUME YOU

[stiff glacier]

I personally wished for sister novitiate class but im am intrested in ganger too

[unique orchid]

it's more the concept of "the straight man"
"so, do you get out much you uhh... thing..?"
"I DO LITTLE BUT SERVE THE EMPEROR"
"...right... good talk."

[visual badge]

I hope the next class is a ratling

so we dunk on admech crowd some more

[narrow widget]

when are we going to remove vet from the game

[stiff glacier]

Don't worry i know better than to jump on hypetrains

[ancient path]

So we get another straight man right after arbites?

[rough adder]

And also what are you trying to say? I never said vet cant do that without unwavering focus in the current game, I'm saying it was the reason it was used back then. And I'm not even showing a vet ult. I was saying unwavering focus was different from ghost in the way they are used.

[livid hill]

Pov the cop trying to subdue my uncle while he's high on 3 different kinds of crack

[shadow dagger]

praying for the regular degular ass crowbar to dethrone ds as the new best melee because it would be funny as hell

[fervent quiver]

Chat are we kidding? A 1 minute slowdown in general?

[elder vessel]

vet is over crowd will see Zealots one ranged talent get buffed and start bellowing

[oblique totem]

Memes aside, I'm excited to play a new class. Even if I wind up just playing Veteran more.

[stiff glacier]

I very much doubt hivescum is gonna pouch anything from vet. I don't see dualwielding nutjob outsniping vet

[mighty willow]

Lore addicts when i don't read 500 books just to understand plotline of "Le Imperium = le bad"

"Fucking tourist, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

[visual badge]

you really want no cooldown on general?

[fervent quiver]

Yes, I wanna sit back and see the show go wild

[visual badge]

go look at the reddit

[unique orchid]

everyone got hyped up before the release... now it's 60 sec CD for a different reason

[visual badge]

it's funnier

[unique orchid]

well yeah it's reddit, the people who paint grass and trees on their basement walls use reddit

[oblique totem]

Yeah, it's pretty nuts.

[oblique totem]

I try not to as a general rule. Why? Is it bad?

[visual badge]

oh its bad

[fervent quiver]

Actual "we'll make a new class before giving veteran a new gun"

[visual badge]

it started before it even was revealed

[narrow widget]

half life 2 reference half life 3 when

[fervent quiver]

A melta... or a plasma pistol

[mighty willow]

Damage control, they knew either way people would fucking riot

[regal smelt]

the fatshark games forums makes a great substitute, basically the same but its not reddit

[fervent quiver]

Im too disappointed to be angry

[rough adder]

Honestly in a weird way I wish the more "mainline" aspect of 40k show up in this game as rarely as possible, the "crack heads stabbing each other in bum fuck nowhere" feel of darktide is the most appealing aspect to me

[mighty willow]

I don't care in all honesty. Neither hyped or disappointed

[visual badge]

that's what darktide always has been, people refuse to believe it now because they got arbites

[unique orchid]

if crack heads fighting eachother is the best part you might like GTA

[oblique totem]

I remember people were pushing the admech class so hard a few weeks ago.

[fervent quiver]

Isn't that just every game of darktide?

[unique orchid]

in a reductive sense i can see the argument yes

[oblique totem]

I requested a reskin of Ogryn except it's an ork Freeboota. You get a pirate hat.

[fervent quiver]

4 juiced up hobos soloing the mobian 6th

[visual badge]

"it's gonna be admech guys" and they push for the most stretched theories that even half life fans would blush at

[unique orchid]

Half Life fans are beyond psyker-level crazy

[rough adder]

And also because the shit the current rejects can do is just way too ridiculous now

[oblique totem]

It would be tragic if it wasn't so amusing to watch.

[visual badge]

like I legit saw a reddit post on saying it's gonna be admech based on the roadmap, the colors of the class reveal were red and blue

[rough adder]

Although this brings the issue that it's harder to add more unique looking class to the game

[oblique totem]

Red = Admech. I'm sold.

Ignore the blue

[rough adder]

for fantasy you can get away with having different races together

in 40k the stranger types of human are all really segmented

[oblique totem]

Fantasy 40k is less racist.

[visual badge]

warhammer fantasy

[ancient path]

This also. People say this kinda like "hobo with a crowbar" then hop on their naked zealot named SIRSTABBER and play combat knife loo

[visual badge]

in 40K, you put one and the other in same room and they're gonna gut each other

[oblique totem]

Right. What did I say?

[rough adder]

other than ratling i genuinely can't think of some more "weird" class they can add

[visual badge]

add a drukhari class so they turn the other rejects into musical instruments

[round crystal]

aeldari

kroot mercenary

obv skittari

[oblique totem]

Loner knife vet builds lurking in the shadows.

[narrow widget]

hideo kojima class

[rough adder]

like if we are really pushing it the farthest we can go is servitor

[visual badge]

0 fucking chance you get the darktide crew working with xenos

[topaz lance]

Ganger hype. For a vet main the abilities sound like a lot of fun imo.

[visual badge]

even a ratling would get dissed from the others

[round crystal]

they already are behind the scenes

[topaz lance]

Run and gun? Hell yeah!

[visual badge]

in secret, sure

not infront of the others

[round crystal]

says who? It's up to Grendel

and James Workshop

[stiff glacier]

I mean i personally wouldnt mind like sister novitiate, you could say it would poach on zealots turf but i completely belive they could have identity of their own.

[narrow widget]

when will we get the jetpack joyride crossover class

[round crystal]

its not like its never happened in the lore

[oblique totem]

Ratling was the second most option I saw being put forward aside from the admech, which I thought was funny since Vet is literally the sharpshooter class.

[visual badge]

you want to talk about vet death

add in a ratling

[round crystal]

they said ratling will never ever happen because of level geometry

[unique orchid]

how does that even-

just because the ratling is short?

[rough adder]

The vaulting system is beyond borked i assume

[round crystal]

yes

[fervent quiver]

I see the ratling somehow fall through the staircase

[visual badge]

just give the ratling some extendo legs

[unique orchid]

just dont let them vault

[visual badge]

problem solved

[rough adder]

better yet

[stiff glacier]

Ratling gets trampled by three ogryns

[rough adder]

a jet boot

[fervent quiver]

Give the ratling a jetpack

[rough adder]

my man

[fervent quiver]

It'll introduce the biggest filter ever

[visual badge]

crusher can instantly kill a ratling just by walking over them

[fervent quiver]

Press your ability, get gunned down by the 15 gunners that see you in the sky

[oblique totem]

The ratling model is actually a vet reskin. There's three of them in a trenchcoat

[visual badge]

each of them has a different pitch in their voice

[gilded wraith]

Someone at Fatshark has a fixation with the word Desperado.

[rough adder]

considering how slayer plays sometimes, you probably don't even need 15 gunners.
You probably don't even need gunners

[fervent quiver]

Borderlands 2 is really stuck in their minds

[round crystal]

flashbang, instant reload

its mcree time

[oblique totem]

All of them are the cutthroat vet voicelines at different pitches.

[fervent quiver]

I just want a ratling with a heavy bolter

[oblique totem]

I'd play that class

[round crystal]

For Cadia! For Cadia! FOR CADIA!

[visual badge]

ogryn gets to use the ratling as a gun

thats the new class

hold on now

[fervent quiver]

Ah yes, the ork teleportation gun

[visual badge]

ratling can ride on ogryn's back as passive

stay with me now

[rough adder]

ogryn titan fall?

[gilded wraith]

It's now the name for a blessing, talent, and combat ability.

[oblique totem]

The ogryn can throw the ratling like a grenade

[ancient path]

"i cant believe theyre just some hobo with a crowbar."

Hops on shovel vet

[fervent quiver]

Hops on ogryn

[oblique totem]

I've been told that shovel vet is completely different. Unless they're wearing the Krieg cosmetics.

[ancient path]

ah but of course

"thats different!!!"

[rough adder]

One of the strongest weapons is a metal rod with barbed wire on it

[visual badge]

well technically, that weapon is wielded by a person that can rival a space marine

[fervent quiver]

If there was a shovel on cadia, they could have parried the Blackstone fortress

[shadow dagger]

premium barbed wire blessed by the machine gods

[oblique totem]

I've been shown diagrams and charts explaining how the shovel is actually very nuanced and refined.

[serene bough]

Bonk

[visual badge]

shoutout to the greatest estate developer

[oblique totem]

As a heavy sword enthusiast, I cannot read so most of that just went over my head.

[visual badge]

I still prefer the chainsword

I mean its a chainsaw sword, how cooler can you get

[crystal sable]

thunder hammers

[visual badge]

yeah but does it have chains

I don't think so

[oblique totem]

If vet could use the eviscerator I would run that

Chainsword go brrrr

[ancient path]

make melee vet outshine zealot even more

[oblique totem]

Exactly.

[rough adder]

Like someone on the forum was complaining about "Why are we playing some random schmuck with a crowbar in a 40k game" like bro that was the whole appeal of this game

[ancient path]

l m f a o

[visual badge]

what we need to do is to make veteran better than all classes

[oblique totem]

All vet squad remains the optimal way to play

[visual badge]

"ugh I dont want to play as some random hobo with a knife" hops on zealot with no shirt and combat knife

[crystal sable]

lowkey im surprised people are this mad about it
we're on a hive world and you dont expect gangers as a playable option?!

[ancient path]

brother.

[sharp epoch]

why do we have to play criminals smh

[ancient path]

Literally

[oblique totem]

Frankly I was sort of surprised ganger wasn't one of the original choices.

[visual badge]

I do hope that the ganger has unique introduction like arbites

[oblique totem]

You start in a prison cell

[visual badge]

I mean they have to do at least that much

[serene bough]

Im disappointed this dlc isn't the custodes we've all wanted deep down inside

[ancient path]

idk what juice ppl got on after arby launch

[sharp epoch]

me too I wanted grey knights

[visual badge]

I didn't get my ork playable class, I am seething

[oblique totem]

I also asked for a class that was built around the ability to vote kick

[ancient path]

mfw the dlc isnt just playable emperor of mankind

[visual badge]

when you die, you just respawn with a clone

[serene bough]

Time to uninstall

[rough adder]

I think it's because since the release of arbites a lot of audience from space marine 2 got drawn to darktide

[crystal sable]

eh it probably will
i'd like to think its the prison intro like other rejects, but it would be funny as shit if inquisitor grendyl drafts some poor ass ganger

[serene bough]

No big E

[visual badge]

respawn enough and you get captain titus on your ass

ooh I know the next class we should get

[oblique totem]

Fatshark hasn't responded to that request, but I'm confident they're considering it.

[visual badge]

malum caedo

[ancient path]

this makes sense

[serene bough]

Realistically though the next playable class is a baneblade

[oblique totem]

Please no more Ultramarines

[visual badge]

I really do feel like hive scum should've been first, and then arbites as it shows the situation is getting more desperate

[rough adder]

To me, it's the only reason i can justify seeing someone saying "I have an idea to fix stealth, let's make stealth give you 30% melee attack speed bonus for 10s on exiting"

[oblique totem]

I'll take a class built around being a deathkorps guardsman before I ask for more Ultramarines.

[visual badge]

what, you don't like the blueberries?

2 (3) games dedicated to them was clearly not enough

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/isek-gif-fruit-the-grand-budapest-hotel-adrian-brody-ya-goddamn-little-fruit-gif-23308093

Bluebarries are fruits, right?

[normal pawn]

look
the bonk sound effect > dopamine loop is a power loop that will get you through havoc40
Trust the shovel

[rough adder]

yes

[oblique totem]

I'm sorry but all the Deathkorps roleplayers have made me physically repulsed by any shovel related weapons

[rough adder]

And the push attack crit sound effect is godly

[normal pawn]

Just remodel it to look like a baseball bat and pretend you're playing TF2 scout

[oblique totem]

If the vet doesn't have the scout's accent, I'll cry

[visual badge]

cant wait for one the voices to be the most posh sounding voice ever

[oblique totem]

Kind of surprised we didn't get that with the psyker, honestly

Pleasantly surprised, mind you, but still surprised.

[visual badge]

considering what psykers have to endure on the daily basis, I'm not surprised

[ancient path]

I'm just sayin, if I was working with a futuristic sci-fi universe with lots of interesting weapons to choose from and I already had a combat shovel (a real life weapon used in historical battles) as the lowest bar in terms of tech, I wouldn't be trying to find a lower tech, and more impractical weapon for my new class to use.

What's next? A single shot antique pistol for a new gun?

damn it happened to me too

[visual badge]

how the hell are gangers meant to get xenos weapons, when all we're fighting is people with the same weaponry as us

[oblique totem]

See? You people thought I was joking. I wasn't.

[visual badge]

not to mention the instant headshot they would get if they showed up with a xenos gun

[ancient path]

i thought you were lmfao

[oblique totem]

Although psykers should have flintlock pistols.

That would be neat

[visual badge]

oh we're just going back to saltzpyre now?

[rough adder]

That actually sounds like a very good idea

[ancient path]

A single shot pistol?

[oblique totem]

Can you think of a reason not to?

[ancient path]

I mean, the orgyn has a blunderbuss lol

[visual badge]

he'd personally execute all the psykers on sight

[ancient path]

And the vet has the halbore

[rough adder]

We already have single shot weapons

[oblique totem]

We're already halfway there

[rough adder]

yeah

[ember nest]

welcome veterans
Your ammo-generation duties shall now be split
Introducing, the new class: Hive Scum

[visual badge]

oh yay, another

vet is dead chatter

[ember nest]

Wahr

I said the duties will be split

[oblique totem]

I see this as a plus.

[visual badge]

it doesnt change anything

[ember nest]

Even more ammo

[oblique totem]

I do like ammo

[ember nest]

Oh wait are you like preemptively assuming I'm saying vet is dead

[visual badge]

silly you, the ammo box goes to the zealot

[visual badge]

yes my bad, I had enough of those today lol

[ember nest]

:^/

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-hiss-gif-16141788

[ember nest]

If anything I think this is a better slot-in than zealot

[oblique totem]

I'm the opposite of the vet is dead crowd. I see this as proof that vet is the best class, since they just keep making more vet classes.

[visual badge]

I doubt ganger will replace either

[fair shale]

Tbh ganger strikes me more as "zealot is dead" than "vet is dead" rn

[ember nest]

^

[visual badge]

really doubt that

[ember nest]

If they're strong enough in melee

[oblique totem]

Direct quote from General chat:
"Ganger is just Zealot with guns."

[rough adder]

Like they can always bullshit a way to make the most ridiculous thing work work for nonsensical reason, it's like the charm of 40k.
The biggest limit here unfortunately is the setting itself or more precisely gw will never allow them to do that.
And like you mentioned there's already single shot weapons in this game

[fair shale]

We defo won't known till it releases, but it only seems to hard step on vets toes with Survivalist 2 aura

[oblique totem]

That's Vet babyyyy

[ember nest]

I just want more vet weapons tbh

And a mark of plasma that actually explodes

[oblique totem]

Heavy stubber when?

[rough adder]

To me it feels more like shredder vet during that short period of time when shredder was unreasonably OP

[visual badge]

survivalist and gunslinger are nothing alike

make that comparison to the damage aura

[oblique totem]

Ah yes, the before times

[ember nest]

Damage auras are all the same tho

No one cares abt damage auras

[oblique totem]

Toughness aura is where it's at anyway

MAYBE ammo aura

Maybe

[fair shale]

The auras that share ammo are going to be compared just like people look at the crit aura and go "literally psyker"

[hybrid plover]

I honestly hope they do some rebalancing for zealot when the class comes out for this particular reason.

[oblique totem]

Come on. Be serious.

[fair shale]

Looking at the shit ganger can do rn i do not know how it isnt gonna hard encroach on zealot

[hybrid plover]

It's crazy how zealot was supposed to be the starchild of the rework and ended up being the weakest class after lol

[oblique totem]

This is classic power creep

[fair shale]

I agree

[oblique totem]

Ability creep?

Whatever.

[fair shale]

You can say power creep, we get it

[hybrid plover]

See I get that it's power creep but the irony is not lost with me that this was supposed to be their update.

[fair shale]

Tbh the only part of ganger that really grinds my gears is that they're selling dual wielding for 12 dollars when it's existed since VT1 technologically and people have been begging for it for literally 3 years atp

It feels disingenuous

[hybrid plover]

And the most that zealot got was that stealth is honestly their most viable setup now.

[oblique totem]

Oh is the Ganger paid DLC?

[fair shale]

Yes

Like Arby

[oblique totem]

Ouch

And Arby still isn't getting any love in the cosmetics

[fair shale]

In all good faith, did you actually expect it to be free?

Tbh Ganger has a metric fuckton to pull from for cosmetics

[hybrid plover]

You know who to blame.

[oblique totem]

See, i'm like the admech crowd.

Blindly optimistic

And a little dumb

[fair shale]

Tbh its better than being overly pessimistic so

You got that going for you

[oblique totem]

GW? Because anything that changes the look of their precious intellectual property is a sin of the highest order?

[hybrid plover]

Ye.

I'll be real.

[oblique totem]

Yeah that's me. Better off than the redditers.

[hybrid plover]

That's probably why they chose hive ganger over admech

[visual badge]

god forbid you mention it being GW's fault, you get called a dickrider

[oblique totem]

Oh for sure. I'm like 80 percent certain that there's a hive gang vs arbiter game coming out in the near future

[hybrid plover]

I'd imagine the contingencies around cosmetics for an admech would be way stricter than a hive ganger.

[oblique totem]

That's why they keep pushing these particular aspects of 40k

[hybrid plover]

Hive gangers can just look like fuck all.

[rough adder]

I think the problem with Arby cosmetic is that they have a default look that is way too iconic to make big changes, or make big changes without gw nuking them from orbit
Most of not all the current arby cosmetic have their look directly lifted from the model kits, the coat was already pushing it

[oblique totem]

Sounds like the perfect place to expand would be a game where you can buy cosmetics for your characters

But what do I know?

[visual badge]

if GW approves that

which they most likely won't

[oblique totem]

Can't hurt the brand with new ideas

[visual badge]

that's for them to decide

[oblique totem]

Of course, I like the judge dredd look as much as the next guy

[fair shale]

I really like my Not Sallet Helm on arb tbh

Every class would be better with a Sallet Helm styled cosmetic

[oblique totem]

Oh, the crowbar thing is a real weapon choice.

[pseudo fiber]

It seems ot be 6 weapons

[oblique totem]

For some reason I thought they were just being dramatic about the hobo with a crowbar bit

[pseudo fiber]

crowbar, saw, dual daggers
smgs, stub pistol, needle pistol

[visual badge]

clearly the HL3 announcement was the hive scum class all along

the crowbar is proof

[oblique totem]

Damn, today really is historic

Maybe the real crowbars were the hobos we met along the way

[fair shale]

How many unique weapons did arb get? 4?

Shotgun, Maul, Shield Maul so 3?

[oblique totem]

Ogryn weapon, Ogryn weapon and Ogryn weapon as I recall

[fair shale]

I really hope they give arb some of the stuff their models have

Heavy stubber and the longer ranged shotgun thing

[oblique totem]

I would also like for them to add Ogryn weapon and Ogryn weapon, but that seems unlikely at this point.

[ember nest]

Naw even datamine wise there's like nothing

FS for darktide has been notoriously stingy on cosmetics

[oblique totem]

Oh that's just disappointing.

[ember nest]

You know what arbites has in the bag?

A red chestplated trench coat

Thats it. That's all.

[oblique totem]

I'd wear that

[ember nest]

And yet

We cannot get it

[oblique totem]

For a paid class, the complete lack of cosmetics dumbfounds me

[visual badge]

blame gw for that

[ember nest]

It aint rlly surprising

[oblique totem]

really makes the Arbiter feel like it was just tacked on and forgotten about. Which I can guess is exactly what we can expect with the Ganger

[ember nest]

Nup

Plenty of art to work with

[visual badge]

not up for FS to decide if they can add that into their game

warhammer isnt their license

[ember nest]

Most of the "new" sets that get added

Have been in the game for a really

really long time

The more you know the more aggravating it will get

[oblique totem]

The cheap recolors was already bad enough

[ember nest]

And those recolors gets stretched for AGES

[rough adder]

I want my grenade launcher obese fish!

[oblique totem]

Rotating cosmetics to force a sense of urgency

[ember nest]

We are JUST NOW getting the "recolor packs"

[fair shale]

Right? I can only hope they're being held off for future additions.

[ember nest]

Within the back half of this year

[oblique totem]

For a game that revolves around making your own character, it does a really poor job of giving you decent options to do that

[ember nest]

Ppl will say "gw" and not even know half of how bad shit rlly is for mtx

[visual badge]

god forbid I blame the man above

not defending fatshark either

[ember nest]

If only it was actually GWs fault though for this

[visual badge]

and how can you be sure it's not?

[oblique totem]

Hey, more than one entity can be at fault.

[ember nest]

"Oh wow! Hive-Reject adjecent shirt #5828 comes in red now!"

it was datamined in the beta

[rough adder]

Yeah it can also be Tencent's fault

[visual badge]

recolors aren't the same as whole new cosmetics

[last pewter]

daily reminder GW held back a SM 2 update cus the ankles on the space marines were not correct

[calm shard]

except yues literally psyker

psyker has crit chance aura

nyeh

[last pewter]

let's just say that they're very...specific when it comes to their approving things, even minor things

[ember nest]

A bit different than pre-approved things

[fair shale]

I unironically think they cut the actual injection part of the stimm cause that would be negatively viewed in marketting

There's defo a stimm noise around 23 seconds and the class is very heavily about using stimms

But showing injection on screen Is Bad™

[ember nest]

AUSTRAYA!!!! 🗣️

[oblique totem]

So GW is willing to flex on minor details?

[fair shale]

Absolutely bro

[rough adder]

I thought it was the enemy using the stim

[ember nest]

They are, but mainly for models and "flagship" content

[fair shale]

I defo took it as Ganger is using the stimm to power up and solo save the reject squad

[ember nest]

Like, the geometry being wrong, or the details in a carnifex being inconsistent

[topaz lance]

What if this is the cause of the delay?

[fair shale]

It doesn't like, matter at all. That's just my theory on it.

[rough adder]

Holyshit

[oblique totem]

I thought the carnifex looked a bit off

[ember nest]

But "a jacket who's only difference from the default is that it is green" is not one of them

[last pewter]

fwiw, I will admit, not a dev of GWs or anything, but from what I've heard, they asbolutely are not willing to flex on minor details whatsoever

[topaz lance]

It sounds possible though

[oblique totem]

What about green camo pattern?

[ember nest]

This is true. If they want smth changed it will be changed.

[oblique totem]

12 dollar DLC

[last pewter]

case in point, to this day, people still wonder if the Sister of Battle in Rogue Trader isn't romanceable because the devs or GW said so

Speedfreekz also had to get approval to have a bot that spoke like an Ork

[fair shale]

GW is very serious about their IP

[ember nest]

Indeed

[calm shard]

much to the detriment of their IP

[fair shale]

Its doing better than ever tbh

I remember back around 6/7e when 40k legit almost died

[ember nest]

However as far as darktide goes we took forever to get the cosmetics that the basic rejects in the opening have

[oblique totem]

Which is ironic, but GW is clearly doing something correct

[fair shale]

They are more successful than ever

40k has breached into the mainstream

[ember nest]

They absolutely would not give us those damn fullface helmet w/ goggles

I think(?) We still don't have the exact chestpeice despite it being in the files ready to go

But we do have a recolor of it

[oblique totem]

This could be a Marvel situation where breaking into the mainsteream results in explosive growth at the cost of the original fans and then implosion as the mainstream moves on.

[ember nest]

Its funny cause for an ip so meticulously managed

You still get most people just being like blatantly wrong about shit???

[oblique totem]

The fanbase is... passionate.

[fair shale]

You have

No idea

[oblique totem]

I have some idea

[last pewter]

after today, I feel like most people have some idea

[fair shale]

Tbh this isnt even that bad

[last pewter]

at least the game's still good

but still people reacted really strongly

[oblique totem]

Oh give it time

[fair shale]

I had to moderate a 40k server when they released the Female Custodes animation

[narrow widget]

my condolences

[rough adder]

I pray for your soul

[last pewter]

I can imagine the reaction was similar to discovering you can make a female character in this game

[fair shale]

Its why I dont mod discords anymore

[oblique totem]

Your fault for moderating a 40k server

[last pewter]

a bunch of chuds talking about how 'women don't belong in 40k' or some shit

[fair shale]

You are entirely correct

[ember nest]

This isn't as bad as the reaction to:

• horus heresy retcon
• the death of yarick
• femstodes
• tau. Not even anything specific. Just. Tau.
• new votann lore for like 1 week

[fair shale]

Agreed

[last pewter]

why did people hate the Tau so much

[ember nest]

it could have been worse

[fair shale]

Their original inception wasnt grimdark enough and they had some absolutely cancerous tabletop lists like Fish of Fury

[ember nest]

The combination of asthetics made them somehow more cringe than most factions

[last pewter]

I mean, railguns are cool, but what do I know

[fair shale]

Nah it's defo also the fact that they were completely and totally miserable to play against in the TT for a long time

[oblique totem]

My read is that the Tau were blatant pandering to a different audience and went against the look, feel and general theme of every other faction so the current fans hated it

[fair shale]

That helped cement hatred

[ember nest]

• not grim enough
• not dark enough
• too weeb
• too cancer to fight on tabletop

Its kinda like aeldari flyers but without the backdrop of aeldari lore to defend the faction as a whole

[oblique totem]

Plus, Tau on the table top is just an awful experience.

[fair shale]

Nah

Not like they used to be

Fish of Fury and Jump Shoot Jump on the suits made them genuinely untouchable

[last pewter]

I will readily admit I've never played the TT

[oblique totem]

I mean used to be, when the opinion about them that started to form got cemented

[last pewter]

I only know that Orks get to fire again if they roll a 6

[ember nest]

I think the only thing I heard more complaints abt were aeldari shit and release votann

[distant plaza]

what was the horus heresy retcon?

[fair shale]

Been playing it since late 5th ed or early 6th ed

[ember nest]

"What was"
HAH

HAHAHAH

All of it

[oblique totem]

But yeah, what was the Horus Heresy retcon?

[fair shale]

Uh

[oblique totem]

Did I miss something?

[ember nest]

The whole thing was entirely rewritten quite recently

[oblique totem]

We talking the Primarch mom here?

[rough adder]

As in like the entire horus heresy was a retcon? I don't really know enough about it

[last pewter]

idk I'm too poor to play TT

[rough adder]

oh

[atomic zephyr]

hello chat
are smoke grenades worth pairing with executioner's stance these days

[oblique totem]

Always

[last pewter]

it's what I like to do at least

[ember nest]

Just a lot of little nitpicky changes than people got pantiestwisted about until the next lore drop

[atomic zephyr]

awesome

[visual badge]

if you can get people to hold off melee I suppose

[inner iris]

Does anyone ever use smokes

[visual badge]

otherwise shredder and krak are better

[ember nest]

If you ever hear anyone squealing about horus being stronger than emps

[fair shale]

My advice is to look for secondhand ebay lots if you ever want models, there's always some newly wed being forced to sell their stuff for space.

[ember nest]

Thats why

[oblique totem]

I completely missed this

[rough adder]

Havoc mostly.

[inner iris]

Is infantry las viable for high difficulty or is recon las the meta

[ember nest]

Oh right

[oblique totem]

When did this happen?

[ember nest]

And more john grammaticus

[narrow widget]

lol

lmao

even

[ember nest]

But I kind of agree on them with that

I hate that guy

[oblique totem]

I was around for John Grammaticus.

[ember nest]

He hasnt left

[oblique totem]

Yeah I know

[fair shale]

Meta for vet rn is like, Double Barrel or Helbore I'd say.

[last pewter]

I do have a box of Skitarii left to get painted and an Ikit Claw
besides that might get a few Space Marines, and maybe a regiment of Imperial Guard and that's it for me, just so have as like decoration lol

as for meta for Vet I literally would not fucking know lmao

[pseudo fiber]

Look into Kill team you only need 1 box for that :)

[rough adder]

Infantry las just struggle a ton in general because the game in its current state is spawning too much stuff.
You can always make it work but it'll be just worse in everyway than other weapons most of the time

[fair shale]

Tbh my end all be all favorite model isn't even something I can use on the tabletop so I get it

[oblique totem]

I haven't made it to the retcon about how the primarchs were scattered and made, which is sort of what I assume all the anger is about.

[ember nest]

Naw

[inner iris]

can lasguns ever be good vs carapace or just nah

[narrow widget]

vet has a lot of choices

[last pewter]

I have heard good things about the Vigi guns but yeah

[ember nest]

Its mostly the events on terra that people piss abt

[rough adder]

nah, unless helbore

[fair shale]

Pride and joy of my 40k collection right here

[last pewter]

someone pull up my old immersed sniper build

[atomic zephyr]

helbores work

[oblique totem]

pew pew

[visual badge]

the ever reliable krak

[last pewter]

bear in mind super old tree

before Sharpshooter was good

[topaz lance]

The ranged part of the hive scum tree has me hyped. Seems like it kinda encraoches on vet territory but much more mobility. If they get the double barrel I think they could go even more sicko mode than vet with WS.

[last pewter]

this was my playstyle for the longest time until I started experimenting with Weapon Spec

[fair shale]

Should've taken shredder frags man, have the whole left side of the mf tree

[tame lodge]

Helbores are top tier
Everything else can be good but not worth building into

[oblique totem]

Get with the times old man

[last pewter]

nahh, see, I played like how I used my Wyll back in BG 3

I put down a smoke, pop my ult, and shoot people out of it

also jfc what is that

[visual badge]

the history repeats itself

[last pewter]

shout sniper

[visual badge]

infiltrate sniper

[oblique totem]

I was bell curved on Voice of Command

[last pewter]

oh infiltrate

[fair shale]

Also yeah the vigilant autogun is very good rn too

[last pewter]

forgot that even exists

[visual badge]

yeah I play vet

runs shout, plasma and psword

[last pewter]

still complains about them nerfing psword

[ember nest]

Fuck man I forgot teatd was out in november 2023

[visual badge]

psword is caca

it was painful getting that to 30

[last pewter]

god I will always remember the day when psword got nerfed

[narrow widget]

squiggle

[last pewter]

used to be on one activation it had 3 swings by default

[fair shale]

I will too lmfao

[last pewter]

sooo many people were like

'oh my godddd I can't meleee nowwwww wtfffff'

[fair shale]

T4 Power Cycle got you like, 7 charged swings iirc

[oblique totem]

I picked shout at first, then as I got better I moved to other options but now I run shout exclusively.

[last pewter]

it was quite literally the most amount of skill issue I have ever seen

[fair shale]

Power Sword got nerfed to still be the best melee in the game

[last pewter]

idk Shroudfield is probably strong but shout and exe stance just feel stronger

[oblique totem]

Plasma gun is the best sniper rifle

[inner iris]

am i trolling if i roleplay as a guardsman by using infantry las and shovel

[rough adder]

It caused a visible dip in review score chart also

[oblique totem]

No but people will say you are.

[visual badge]

run exe with mmf, vigilant autogun and shovel

[livid sphinx]

No, but you're gonna give yourself a carpal

[rough adder]

It could work, I've seen it happen

[last pewter]

I think the only time I've seen more people like

[oblique totem]

Exe stance is a lot of fun and can be devastating

[last pewter]

actually mad

than when the psword was nerfed

was when we removed the memes channel

people went from some hundred pages of chat history to just 5

[oblique totem]

But it's just too situational. With shout, you just turn your brain off and yell at the heretics

[last pewter]

and they were not happy

[visual badge]

still waiting for them to make the revive option for shout worth picking up

[oblique totem]

They let their memes become dreams

[visual badge]

just remove the range and cooldown limitations, and its good

[livid sphinx]

I play with exe and MM

[tame lodge]

Not trolling but definitely not the strongest loadout

[oblique totem]

Four vets running Voice of Command can have basically infinite toughness

[tame lodge]

[livid sphinx]

Unli exe stance for days

[oblique totem]

Not just for themselves but for the whole team

[visual badge]

as long as you dont run the shredder autopistol

[last pewter]

literally what they did in verm yeah

[visual badge]

cant go wrong

[oblique totem]

I've seen people die on the shredder autopistol hill

[last pewter]

feel like the only time I've ever seen Shredder actually work is gunker

and even then they prefer Recon Las

[atomic zephyr]

is it better to throw smoke at the enemies or at my feet

[visual badge]

sure psyker

[last pewter]

depends, smoke is considered a LoS blocker

[visual badge]

veteran youre not killing anything

[oblique totem]

Vet mains, by the way. Not psykers

[tame lodge]

Your feet
Or where you're going to be at

[oblique totem]

There was one person who perfected a recon lasgun build

[atomic zephyr]

cool, so behind good cover

or in a choke

[rough adder]

Throw at enemy if you want them to stay there and stop shooting, throw at your feet if you want them to come to you
I think

[visual badge]

well smoke gives you cover is the thing

[inner iris]

sounds p easy

[tall torrent]

throw at where u want to be

[inner iris]

recon lasgun is kinda just a "hold m1 until enemies die" gun

[last pewter]

yeah idk, I can't see the usecase for Shredder on a Vet

[silver patrol]

pretty sure gunners just leave the smoke

[rough adder]

Ah

[visual badge]

before people complain about lack of weapons

how bout they buff the bad guns so we get to use more of them

[inner iris]

should i run infernus or deadly accurate on my infantry lasgun (I assume everything else is garbage)

[ember nest]

I just want the variety for sake of variety myself

[silver patrol]

best i can do is a scryer gaze buff

[visual badge]

like I am so happy they made vigilant autogun actually useful

but I still see myself eyeing the helbore, because it does stuff better

[woven oak]

Does this build look decent for DSIV + Plasma? H40, ideally. I know Out for Blood is not optimal, but I find I need more toughness regen in high havoc. I struggle to survive without it. I imagine I could swap to Shredders if it's not rotten armor (or maybe stims, because blue enemies)

[last pewter]

helbore my beloved

I started modding the game because of that gun to give it a scope

and then I acquired skill, now I don't need no scope

[visual badge]

weak

real vets dont need no scope

[last pewter]

yeah real vets floortank xd

[inner iris]

why would you want a scope on your gun idk where in the game you are shooting so long range that you need a sniper scope

[tall torrent]

this is not gonna get good 1 taps on gunner with plasma

[last pewter]

again I played a very immersed sniper build back in the day

I would take a long sightline and hold it for like 2 minutes, barely moving

I was playing Sniper Elite

[visual badge]

camouflaged immersed gamer

40% accuracy

[inner iris]

AKA the call of duty vet

[last pewter]

both accurate, yes

[topaz lance]

I wish they'd tweak the game balance so that it is somewhere between this and the utter mayhem we have now

[oblique totem]

Call of Duty vet is the only vet I recognize.

[topaz lance]

I enjoyed slower Darktide more than the current gameplay

[rough adder]

Me too

[visual badge]

thing is every auric game likes to give you hi intensity shock

[woven oak]

What would you change? Drop double grenades to get Weapon Spec for guaranteed crits?

[tall torrent]

best gunner 1 tap essentially requires exe stance

[woven oak]

I am not good enough at vet to use exe stance. Maybe one day

[last pewter]

yeah that's why I ran this build, back then I'd have a lot of time to just, sit down and set up, clear out a room of shooters while my team slowly pushes up, and its how I liked my Vet

[tall torrent]

I also don't think DS is nearly as much value as power sword atm

[last pewter]

nowadays though my Vet is more of a close-medium ranged specialist

[oblique totem]

I petition that we make Darktide play like Titanfall. Everybody gets a grappling hook and a mech

[last pewter]

including the Poxwalkers

good luck

[oblique totem]

Everyone

[tall torrent]

this what I use (with power sword)
u could prob tweak this into VoC then hope u crit HS a lot while having high heat

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-the-professional-norman-stansfield-every-one-every-thing-ryuko-gif-25654661

[woven oak]

I know. Power Sword is very strong. But I want mobility in this case, and I don't enjoy the gameplay loop of power sword. Constantly empowering it is fine, just not super enjoyable for me.

[serene bough]

You could remove some points for On Your Toes in WS type build for more toughness i guess

[rough adder]

On an entirely different note

Does anyone know what this is

[serene bough]

Needle pistol

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Needler

[rough adder]

cool

[oblique totem]

Needle pistol

Inject enemies from a distance

Hopefully not with healing stimms

[inner iris]

i thought it was a nailgun

or a power drill

[rough adder]

Would be funny if i can shoot healing stimms to teammate like it's a killing floor medic gun.
Though I know it's not gonna happen

[woven oak]

It is true. When I was debating nodes, I was thinking largely about toughness regen from Shredders in a horde of enemies.

[frank ledge]

Fellow veterunts

[oblique totem]

Tourists getting filtered don't worry

[frank ledge]

The great crying has begun

[fair shale]

https://tenor.com/view/acme-marvin-the-martian-gif-11067801

[oblique totem]

The needle pistol is basically that deadly though since is can't penetrate armor

[serene bough]

Shredders are less taken than kraks nowadays

At least from my experience

[last pewter]

this is because Shredders are kind of overshadowed by just, y'know, going into melee

[visual badge]

oh boy I love review bombing because of stuff that doesnt affect me

redditors crying about their mechanicus that was never promised

[mortal aspen]

Dual Shredder Pistols here we go hyyyype

[last pewter]

sure the absurd amount of bleed is fine but would you take that over a on-demand LoS blocker or the ability to instantly delete an armored enemy?

[mortal aspen]

surely veteran will get something new

copium

[serene bough]

Also just the recent havoc modifiers favor kraks far more

[visual badge]

veteran doesnt need new guns

they need to buff like half of the loadout they have

[woven oak]

It is true. I think Rotten Armor, blue stims, plus the buffs to the fuse time, gave Kraks much more use than before

[serene bough]

And with the buffs kraks recieved theyre far less taxing to use now

[mortal aspen]

wrong: dual dB shotguns

[visual badge]

okay I'm listening

[mortal aspen]

[oblique totem]

Can vet get the ability to turn on freindly fire?

[visual badge]

fire idea

[mortal aspen]

people really didn't like the reveal huh

[visual badge]

missions are never progressing past the first objective

[oblique totem]

Like an EXE stance sub option

[fair shale]

Hear me out, give vet double combat shotguns

[visual badge]

fuck it, just make the veteran a blank

[last pewter]

psykers just die around them

[visual badge]

every psyker has their game crash to desktop when near

[serene bough]

Its a little underwhelming but ill wait for gameplay to speak for itself

[oblique totem]

Pretty sure the cutthroat is already that

[visual badge]

a very minor blank then

[oblique totem]

That's why everyone hates them

[distant plaza]

i want to dual wield these
https://marathongame.fandom.com/wiki/WSTE-M5_Combat_Shotgun

[fair shale]

Double barrel?

[oblique totem]

When you spin it to reload, you mess up and shoot yourself in the stomach

[distant plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-winchester-trigger-arnold-schwarzenegger-gun-winchester-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-17130125

[mortal aspen]

I'm more excited about dual weapons than the class itself, but the more "lighthearted" character that is lorefriendly at 5he same time should be fun to see

[visual badge]

darktide players when they have to play the game 😭

[fair shale]

Are you ancient enough to remember pre patch akimbo 1887s

[oblique totem]

I am sure I will be very whelmed by the new class

[serene bough]

I think people will warm upto the class once they play it

[visual badge]

no, they will bitch about it until the next class reveal

[distant plaza]

is this a cod reference? >.>

[oblique totem]

Funny you mention this. I just tried to play Darktide. It crashed.

[visual badge]

this community is never happy

rightfully so but it's insane

[serene bough]

I think the disappointment is just bc its not that iconic of a pic

[fair shale]

Modern Warfare 2, only gun they ever nerfed in mp

Like

OG mw2

[serene bough]

There will always be bad apples i suppose

[distant plaza]

[oblique totem]

My favorite gameplay loop is verifying my game files

[fair shale]

My favorite gameplay loop is restarting darktide everytime it does 20 fps and then it miraculously runs at 120 buttery smooth after I change actually nothing

[mortal aspen]

memory leak

[fair shale]

It has to be

[mortal aspen]

or tzeentch sorcery

[atomic zephyr]

i have remembered why i dont like the mk4 helbore

[fair shale]

Its literally only darktide too

[atomic zephyr]

spent an entire round completely unable to react fast enough to shoot specialists

[livid sphinx]

Yeah darktide is weird man. That happems to me too

[fair shale]

Autodesk Stingray

Great engine

[livid sphinx]

Darktide is a beautiful game but its biggest problem is the random fps dip until you restart the game

Can't even get a headshot with a plasma whenever that happens

[rough adder]

Everyone is angry for different reasons I guess. So someone's always gonna be mad

[oblique totem]

I try to counter this by always being excited

It doesn't seem to work

[rough adder]

It doesn't help the game is flawed in such varied ways

[visual badge]

yea the the flaw are the random players I have to play the game with

[rough adder]

Which happens because the powercreep

I think

[oblique totem]

Yeah the community is probably the greatest downside to being a part of this community.

[rough adder]

It may be my hallucination

But I genuinely feel the biggest dip of random players skill happens after Dueling swords is usable on zealots and vets

[oblique totem]

Knife vets trying to solo a level only to bitch at the team when they get downed in another area code and we can't res them in time

[visual badge]

because dueling sword was busted

you barely needed any skill to kill everything with it

idk where it stands now, I havent touched it ever since I got it to 30

[rough adder]

I try to counter that by just accepting stuff as it is and be content with any small improvement

[rough adder]

I haven't touched it since the second round I played it on zealot

[silver patrol]

"this community is never happy" said someone to the community that got stiffed for 2 years

[visual badge]

stiffed on what, exactly

[silver patrol]

updates

[visual badge]

updates on what

you gotta be more specific

[silver patrol]

on what bro

the game

[visual badge]

okay, like the roadmap or what

[silver patrol]

updates in general, ranging from fixes to actual content

servers are still dog

[oblique totem]

But we get recolors every two weeks

[silver patrol]

i'm sorry, i wasn't familiar with your game fatshark

[slow sky]

There is some merit to it tho

Arbites
3 class reworks
Hive scum
Back to back to back
This game doesnt update/add content wtf

[hollow ibex]

Dead game

[silver patrol]

yeah in 2 years

sorry, 3

[untold mulch]

and the release days were....

harsh

[slow sky]

In (just over) 3 years we got 2 classes, a skill tree for each of em tweaked multiple times, a decent amount of weapons, 8 new maps (excluding twins), 2 modes, a crafting overhaul, maelstrom missions, auric missions, and lots of QoL
It does start to add up

[somber wedge]

I understand why the guy with the shredder auto pistol needs a share ammo aura

[void dragon]

Hopium of the day is that with the new hand pistols of the new class, the shredder gets a buff, it's so close to get a cool niche I can feel it

[calm shard]

I mean it does kinda have a niche already

it's a diet vraks infantry autogun with better suppression, mobility, and strength blessings

[silver patrol]

i suppose it does when you start from such a miserable release

but only because the bar was that low to begin with

[slow sky]

Its more like the game was released incomplete and they just fixed it by adding features that should have been there from the start
Though the general timeline of the rate of content would still be the same, the only difference would be where the game releases in that timeline of things being added

[unreal bone]

Darktide's new class is a hive scum..?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1200984393544638556/1381094928167206954/attachment.gif

[tame lodge]

It's a hive city

There's hive scum outside

https://tenor.com/view/barnyard-back-to-the-back-to-the-barnyard-gif-22400357

https://tenor.com/view/barnyard-cows-mr-beady-cowsoutside-gif-20396258

[spark helm]

Imagine, a reject that's an actual reject.

Such devastation

[tame lodge]

Don't worry mate

Feel free to go through all stages o grief

I won't stop you

🫡

https://youtu.be/Xw3Yqcjb02M?si=MdtCcdLVF5HjnKkf

https://youtu.be/u9FqbUciYCQ?si=dLh79j5omNgjsnzn

How can I make this about devil may cry

[tepid otter]

Welp, guess am saving money this update lmao

[sharp epoch]

you guys think the new class is basically veteran minus the chemist tree

[tall torrent]

no

[tepid otter]

[tall torrent]

looks more like zealot with better gimmicks

[sharp epoch]

the gun tree seems like it plays like old exe stance almost exactly

[tepid otter]

We havent really seen any gameplay yet so who knows

Guess we'll just see on Dec2

[regal smelt]

depending on the movement speed and reload speed it looks more like gun psyker

[tame lodge]

It's another use your ranged weapon at close range class

How original

[regal smelt]

as long as there is downsides to it and uhh

Hope there's something to balance out infinite ammo lol

[sharp epoch]

I remember shredder pistol vet/braced auto exe stance was the meta which looks like how that ability will play out

also made you basically immune to ranged and extended on specialist/elites

[regal smelt]

I'm hoping not, at least no movement speed talents so vets can keep pace with them

in terms of a similar autopistol meta

otherwise its just another class that can run ahead and kill everything before anyone else gets to have fun

[untold mulch]

I actually wheezed when the youtube notification popped up on my phone

[untold mulch]

Of what I've seen, I am annoyed Vet doesn't have a similar playstyle

[tall torrent]

dual wield drug addict?

[untold mulch]

The close ranged gunslinger is my fav playstyle, so having melee vet instead of this is just a pain in the ass.

Not gonna give a karking cent more to the Obese Megalodon tho

[untold mulch]

🗿

[sharp epoch]

back in the old days thats how vet played

[tall torrent]

well

that's literally the class

dual wield drug addict

[untold mulch]

Yeah, I did. And just have seen most of the talents now is headshot machine, yelling dude, or discount zealot