veteran-class

[surreal rune]

does anyone have the mod for purge staff and smite that removes the particles

[tepid otter]

wish the infantry las outperforms the laspistol instead of the other way around

[stuck gorge]

“I wanna see”

[surreal rune]

lol

[red portal]

I had one before that but I don't count it cause i really didn't deserve it.

[steep flower]

You block & report them; only solution

[burnt pelican]

It happened in 3 games in a row with different randoms btw

[livid sphinx]

I really wanted to get that H40 title but Havoc is just torture

I'm stuck at H30

[burnt pelican]

Actually crazy we were all so mad

[livid sphinx]

Torture to look for a good party. Torture to play

[steep flower]

Need help?

[burnt pelican]

Wasted hour+ playing with bots

[serene bough]

I have easier times in H40 vs H30

[livid sphinx]

My internet is not good at the moment

[red portal]

Even playing LFG here is hit or miss at times while climbing.

[burnt pelican]

Cuz ppl dont make mistakes

[livid sphinx]

but thanks for the offer though

[serene bough]

H30 feels like ELO hell sometimes

[steep flower]

I mean not now; i’m at work still

[red portal]

It is

[burnt pelican]

H30 IS elo hell

[livid sphinx]

Ahh i'll let you know though if my internet is better

Thanks!

[burnt pelican]

I asked to be carried to 35 cuz it was impossible to rank up after a week of trying

I got to 40 same week no problem

[red portal]

Oh yeah willy I'm gonna be more at home the few coming weeks so I might be down for some games

[livid sphinx]

My biggest problem with H30+ is that you are forced to play meta or else no one will accept you

[red portal]

Finally finish the climb to 40

I have inactivity demoted to 30

[burnt pelican]

Not true

Actually nvm ur right

[livid sphinx]

[burnt pelican]

H40 ppl dont care as much

30 to 35 is tryhard af

[red portal]

Eh I haven't had issues with people accepting me in party finder but I also have 40 clear this season.

[burnt pelican]

Its the demotion mechanic

Its bad

[livid sphinx]

Yeah true

Sometimes you just get the worse luck during a mission and bam you're demoted

[burnt pelican]

Like bro have the devs even tried party finder

Xd

They r assuming ull have 3 tries when in reality u have 1

[serene bough]

I wouldnt care for the demotion mechanic if it didnt reset me to 30 after a patch

Annoying when you get h40 then youre returned back to h30

[burnt pelican]

It does? Started havoc recently

Yeah im done with havoc then lmaooo

Im not going back to 30 hell

[serene bough]

Its ok

[livid sphinx]

I mean you can always just grind the penance but after that what then

The only penance im missing on my vet is the krak grenade but that's easy af

[serene bough]

Just the satisfaction of playing the hardest difficulty

[burnt pelican]

Its like making a new class u wanna play auric but u cant

Ur stuck playing heresy listening to a random podcast cuz ur bored to death

[livid sphinx]

The bad part about that is I rely on the sound too much so I dont get destroyed

As much as I wanna listen to my own music

[burnt pelican]

U can just tone it down

Volume mixer ext

I have a button to stop it if i need to focus

And another to lower audio for music

[livid sphinx]

Oh are you using that kind of keyboard with the sound settings on top?

[burnt pelican]

Yeah and also added some shortcuts on pgup pgdown

For lowering music audio

[livid sphinx]

Right. My keyboard is a TKL though but maybe i'll figure something out

Which software do you use

[burnt pelican]

Music u mean?

Youtube music app for windows u can add shortcuts

Its in the settings

Outside of that foobar

For local music

Just keep in mind the app is not youtubes

Its open source i believe

[livid sphinx]

Alright thanks!

[sand abyss]

No space uzi in the game is a minor f

[turbid ibex]

Shredder already fills that role pretty much

[sand abyss]

Still, more guns

like the melta, hotshot laz, and longlaz

idc if its impractical we need more random guns go brr

[regal smelt]

that could work real well as an autopistol skin, but all we're ever going to get is 5$ recolors of the base skin and maybe an extra bit of metal tacked on it if were lucky

hell it'd probably use the exact same animations, it wouldn't take that much to make

[turbid ibex]

It would need to be new animations

[fierce steeple]

what are the best blessings for the bolter these days?

[burnt pelican]

Surgical and the bleed for auric

Maniac flak

Ur crit should 1tap with bodyshots

[surreal rune]

pinning fire, cavalcade or shattering impact, puncture

[burnt pelican]

U can basically play either single shot sniping and 1tap specials with bleed dot and ranged elites or magdump with the other blessings

I prefer magdump build cuz it go brr

[livid hill]

Yea but it sux

It should be butfed

[surreal rune]

shredder users spending half their magazine to kill a scab gunner

[ocean idol]

no surgical?

[surreal rune]

no surgical.

[burnt pelican]

Ur assuming theres shredder players

[ocean idol]

When it was op i despised it

BUt then my views changed, and it got nerfed

I always tend to like things that are bad...

even before i learn they are bad

[tulip owl]

hey, as long as its fun

[livid hill]

Fs PLEASE give inf las surgical

[surreal rune]

i am the singular shredder user (i dont use it)

[ocean idol]

oh yes

For that reason alone Vigilant is way better than lasguns

[burnt pelican]

U just take it to keep the use rate higher than 0

[livid hill]

Also maybe make the blue lasgun burst fire so it has a gimmick

[ocean idol]

So he is the reason for it getting no buffs?

Should we lynch him

[stuck gorge]

it’s called the shredder because it shreds ammo

[ocean idol]

it shreds sanity

[burnt pelican]

It shreds my hopes and dreams

[stuck gorge]

[burnt pelican]

Its really good at that

[surreal rune]

it has good utility such as stagger and suppression but otherwise its dogshit

[ocean idol]

what ranged weapon should i combine with psword

[surreal rune]

i can only be arsed to use it on zealot

[burnt pelican]

It has so much stagger its actually bad

[surreal rune]

bolt pistol

if you want to be a commissar

[ocean idol]

no

fuck comissars

also DS or chsword more fitting

[sour elbow]

laspistol and be cayenne pepper

[burnt pelican]

I remember when i learned high collateral is bad on some weapons cuz it knocks enemies down and u cant kill them

[sour elbow]

or whatever his name was

[ocean idol]

I am more of commando guy

[burnt pelican]

Literal shredder in a nutshell

[surreal rune]

literally the first commissar model i see has a power sword

[ocean idol]

But it is different

it is saber-like

[sour elbow]

it's got it's uses imo. Good for weapons where you're not expecting headshots

[ocean idol]

also chsworwd is issued weapon

lore wise

[surreal rune]

the shredder has enough stagger to hold enemies in place

such as bulwarks and ragers

[ocean idol]

And laspistol more often than bolt

[burnt pelican]

I am the suicidal h40 inflitrate veteran that runs in and gets oh min1

[burnt pelican]

True but it knocks them down and if they are in horde thats horrible cuz u cant kill em

[ocean idol]

now zealot is better for stealth 😭

[surreal rune]

ive never had the issue of the shredder knocking enemies down

[ocean idol]

What weapons you prefer for stealth?

[burnt pelican]

Milk

Jokes aside, combat shottie

Or revolver

Combat shottie is actually also a sniper with special ammo

[ocean idol]

and melee?

The one with single slug as special ammo?

[burnt pelican]

The first mark

First option i mean

[burnt pelican]

Rending weak spot knife cuz I run it down

Combat shottie has great stagger for ragers and maulers

If u get in a bad situation

Crushers u just clap with the knife

And with 13 shots u can kill like idk 4 scab ragers

For the record i dont recommend running this build its very sweaty

But its fun

[ocean idol]

i did run double barrel with knife

With guaranteed crits it deletes hordes

and ragers

No new class reveal yet?

[serene bough]

Probably in 3h

[ocean idol]

what blessings btw

[burnt pelican]

Next 5 hours if everything goes well

[burnt pelican]

Uhh i run stagger blessings havent tested if they are good though

[dapper coyote]

The class reveal will happen approximately on <t:1763485200:F>. This timestamp is localised to your timezone automatically.

[ocean idol]

iNSTRUCTIONS UNCLEAR WHERE IS MY TOWEL AAAAAAAAAAA

[ocean idol]

ok i don't like that shotgun, too low damage

[steep flower]

Try accatran aka the one that shots a fire slug

[steep flower]

Full bore + no respite is a go to

[ember nest]

NEXT CLASS IS A TOWEL 🗣️

[ocean idol]

Yes, i know

Also i think the third one, with horizontal special shot, is underrated

it can cleave hordes really nice

[steep flower]

Try scattershot & manstopper

[burnt pelican]

Where do u use firr slugs? I use em on unyielding i guess

[undone jungle]

it's capable of 1 shotting bulwarks when shooting over their shield

forgot the current name but the lawbringer

[undone jungle]

you need left keystone tho

it's not crazy but it's fun on Aurics

[burnt pelican]

I like ur pfp lol has chaotic energy

[undone jungle]

you load them in gaps of combat, open a salvo with a slug and spam the rest. only rlly worth putting 1 in mid shooting if you wanna stagger bulwark or snipe a special super far

[burnt pelican]

The fire shell staggers bulwarks?

Whaaa

[undone jungle]

sorry meant to type reapers

slugs to reaper heads often stagger

[burnt pelican]

We are talking about the last mark right? The one with scattershot

[undone jungle]

no but on the topic of fire shells, firing 2 at the bulwarks shields maxes the burn stacks and is capable of almost killing them in 2 shots with no damage modifiers

honestly maybe Unyielding% might be enough to let u 2 tap them but I haven't checked

[burnt pelican]

Fair i think it maxes at 10 burn stacks from testing

[undone jungle]

I was talking about the slug one

[burnt pelican]

Yeah was confused for a sec

[undone jungle]

oh

you said "fire slugs"

that's not what a slug is haha

a slug is a single solid shot with 0 spread

that's why you confused me

the fire shot would be like dragonbreath shells ig

[burnt pelican]

Im running a 0 int build

XD

[undone jungle]

anyway yeah for the fire shot you can use it vs hordes to some questionable effect but it's very nice vs bulwarks

I just spam the special on bulwark clown cars

[burnt pelican]

Using healthbars on fodder enemies i found out its worse than normal shots

Its alright on bosses tho

[burnt pelican]

I almost fell for it

Close to becoming an ogryn main at this point

[steep flower]

Yes; very distant reapers & bosses

[burnt pelican]

It works on distant ones?

[ocean idol]

True, ogryn players are ogryns irl judging b y stupidity of their decisions

[steep flower]

Never use fire slug on hordes; waste of ammo & time

Everytime i see someone do it i know they dunno how to use that weapon

[burnt pelican]

Its misleading tbh if u havent tested it ud assume its for hordes

[steep flower]

Not much worth it; best to slap maniac & flak on it

[steep flower]

Yeah; it dosen’t help also the fact the community is biased about it

[steep flower]

Yes it does; if every pellet connects it applies 6 stacks per shot

[mystic lodge]

Should I take Onslaught for IAG?

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664591642967408640/1440233966127812658/walls.mp4?ex=691d69e7&is=691c1867&hm=5e8169136dd7b6d61b31a776787bb531610542577268de2d78da7c48494c60b3&
wallbangs are funny

[atomic void]

rolling steel in havoc when

[dry cloak]

Never gonna happen

[atomic void]

cowards

[dry cloak]

Or at least highlu unlikely

[burnt pelican]

Rolling demotion

I can already imagine the shroudfield zealot rushing in and spawning 3 waves then dying to oh

And alt f4ing

[true kraken]

dump heat management or power output on the falchion?

[red portal]

Mobility

https://tenor.com/view/how-many-times-do-we-have-to-teach-you-this-lesson-old-man-hi-there-young-people-spongebob-old-man-old-man-spongebob-gif-5749776374374436142

[true kraken]

well it's different on relic blade and FGS sometimes so I -thought-

[red portal]

Powered uptime = dps

[red portal]

Relic blade you still dumb mobility.

There are some people who dump management but it is considered an unoptimal dump

[red portal]

FGS you dump warp res cause it only affects the peril gen and as long as you have less than 99% peril it does not matter

You tap quell if you want to spam waves and you can't use it at 100%

[red portal]

Unless you really like fireworks

[distant mural]

Its allways mobility. And if its not mobility its defences and if its not defences its warp resist.

[analog mural]

Plasma and flamer dumps be like

[red portal]

And if it's neither of those it's cleave targets or cleave damage

[analog mural]

And ripper for that matter

[red portal]

Damage dump flamer is

[true kraken]

also going from zealot to vet with only two dodges on this power sword is painful

I have never felt slower

[trim badger]

Would actually be peak

Reduce timer by 2 minutes, and 2 caps spawn at once (2 at beginning, 2 at end, so it's the 3 Havoc caps + 1 map cap)

And make weakened monstrosities not spawn there

Boom problem solved

[trim badger]

Isn't it 76 burn 64 dmg

For flamer

[hollow ibex]

you could just dump damage entirely

it does something like 2-3 damage iirc lol

[true kraken]

plasma is like 69/71 IIRC

[bold sierra]

does Excution's dmg on stagger apply to Puncture's bleed dot?

Like SKullcrusher?

[hollow ibex]

yeah i think so

i think it's a boost to base strength

[bold sierra]

oh cool, nice

affects the AoE dmg too, I assume? On the explodey one?

bolt pistol i mean

[hollow ibex]

yeah though prob won't make much of a difference given how low the AOE base damage is

[pearl oasis]

What is the best perks and blessings for a recon lasgun?

just in general?

[lean vine]

Infernus, Dumdum, Headhunter

[pearl oasis]

Thanks

[hollow ibex]

infernus dumdum

headhunter isn't very good on recon las

if you don't want infernus it's dumdum deathspitter

dumdum is mandatory

[elder vessel]

How long till thing

[tall torrent]

next week

https://tenor.com/view/peaceemote-peace-peaceful-gif-15091939045954194911

[elder vessel]

But fr tho

when thing

[tall torrent]

maybe 25 mins

maybe 85 mins

[hollow ibex]

1800 CET for the delay announcement

so 21 minutes

allegedly

[elder vessel]

Ohhhhrrr

soon

[red robin]

So any bets

I’m praying for the underdog

Admech

[slender burrow]

veteran channel so quiet

[elder vessel]

less

[surreal rune]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3607402045

[elder vessel]

than 1 minute

it is coming

[tall torrent]

next week

!!!

[surreal rune]

oh what

[surreal rune]

damn

[distant plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-stanley-hilarious-gif-12481157

[tall torrent]

lmao

not even a cold trader

[hollow ibex]

oooooof

fking knew it

[regal smelt]

bruh

[hollow ibex]

all that admech copium

[regal smelt]

admech is just gonna be like warrior priest, going to take for fucking ever

[grand mango]

THERE’S NO FLAVOR

WITHOUT SPORT

ADMECH FALLS ON THIS DAY

[heavy rover]

Oh god the knife zealots are gonna have a field day

[red robin]

Damnn

I’m ok with this

[untold mulch]

I just got the youtube tag

[red robin]

Seems like a fun class

[untold mulch]

And went LMAO

[red robin]

Movement shooter class

[willow prairie]

i forgor class reveal

[red robin]

I pray that increased sprint angle is omni movement

[heavy rover]

Forgor

[willow prairie]

zola class real

[dense belfry]

class rework happen yet?

[red robin]

7/11 crackhead class reveal

I hope krubers voice actor is one of the personalities

I miss that guy

Then again ain’t he morrow

[tall torrent]

“Gunslinger”, “Ruffian” and “Chemist”

3 branches

[willow prairie]

i mean half the ship npc are the vas

[heavy rover]

Combine "Gunslinger" and vet survivalist for infinite ammo

[tall torrent]

lmao

[willow prairie]

vet 2.0

[red robin]

Inb4 same code and destroys ammo economy once again

[willow prairie]

gunlugter ogryn finally havoc viable

[red robin]

Perhaps veteran in possible revamp loses survivalist

[surreal rune]

man zealot seems really weak compared to the proposed melee focus on ganger

[tall torrent]

Immediately swap to and reload your ranged weapon, entering Desperado for a few seconds. During Desperado, the Hive Scum is immune to Ranged Attacks, Sprinting costs no stamina, and reloading does not reduce your Ammo Reserve.

Close Ranged Kills extends the duration of Desperado.

[willow prairie]

bruh the class literally just revealed and there no complete kit yet

[tall torrent]

"immune to ranged attacks"

[drifting verge]

Great
Goodbye veteran
Hello power creep ganger

[tall torrent]

"reloading does not reduce ammo reserve"

[willow prairie]

fourth dollar store exe stance

[untold mulch]

Oh boy

[tall torrent]

executioner's stance if it's actually a range-focus ability

[grim sonnet]

I was hoping for some cool soldier type of fella, kasrkin or scions 😔

[mossy oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802

i bet 5 bucks on ratling

[willow prairie]

space skaven isn't a thing in canon

(yet)

[elder vessel]

rachety ass aesthetic

[red robin]

Hobbit

[untold mulch]

I still waiting for Hellgun

Only gonna reinstall for it at this point

[red robin]

Can never win

But damnn

There’s a stub pistol I think

Lego

[tall torrent]

Hyper-Violence: Upon Melee kill, gain bonus Melee Damage based on amount of overkill damage.

lmao

[willow prairie]

I think the biggest problem with ganger atm is that it just fucking boring after arbites

[grim sonnet]

Yeah, a hellgun would be neat

[willow prairie]

and get review bombed

[tall torrent]

nah I'm reading the blog abt their talents

[untold mulch]

It just shows that FS is out of touch

[tall torrent]

actually cool stuff going on

but the ganger concept is meh

[ocean idol]

where you read all of these

[untold mulch]

Everyone fucking knew it was a bad idea

[tall torrent]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dev-blog-hive-scum-class-design-talents/114762

[grim sonnet]

Dont you like watered down and lobotomised junker queen?

[willow prairie]

the average player base use longshot before tree rework lmao I don't think they care about the kit that much

[ocean idol]

to be fair i am sure they cannot fart without GW approval
And GW are horrible buisnessmen that lucked out with amazing universe

[void dragon]

Admech lost, Junkerqueen joins Darktide

[pseudo fiber]

They've said this several times

[frozen flint]

zealot found dead in corner after reading about melee ganger

[untold mulch]

I hate this argument, because SM2 and RT while had some GW interference

Also had some BATSHIT crazy stuff in it

[red robin]

I wonder if that middle gun is a poison weapon

[grim sonnet]

Shot in detroit

[ocean idol]

this does sound like my kind of gameplay though
"In both ranged and melee, the core idea behind the Hive Scum is a very mobile, aggressive style that emphasizes dodging, maintaining the offensive as you dance in and out of attacks while showering the enemies in a hail of bullets or blows."

[untold mulch]

If SM can pull some cool shit and RT can go insane with it

The only point of failure is FS I am sorry

[ocean idol]

no, SM als ohas plenty restrictions like being unable to have chaos skins in operations

[red robin]

MOVEMENT SHOOTER LEGGO

[untold mulch]

You missing my point

Yeah GW gets in the way

[willow prairie]

inexorable judgement the class

[untold mulch]

But of the three

FS is tje only one who pulls lame stuff

[unique orchid]

So you like playing Zealot?

[untold mulch]

Point and simple

[ocean idol]

Yes

[untold mulch]

I am done giving any doubt infavor of FS

[unique orchid]

I am indeed somewhat blackpilled after this reveal

[mossy oasis]

they are adding average current LA resident to darktide so great

[silver patrol]

petition to rename the channel to veteran-crackheadveteran-class

[grim sonnet]

They could even have done some engineer type of thing if they did admech, like give the fella a turret or something

[red robin]

I mean

There’s always next year

[hollow ibex]

playstyle looks interesting tho

[queen obsidian]

You guys seen the new class

[silver patrol]

no

[queen obsidian]

Holy lord

[spark helm]

I'll just actually wait to play the class before anything else

[grim sonnet]

Or make tanky kasrkin/tempestus with hard hitting prescision weapons

[hollow ibex]

it seems like a faster vet

[ocean idol]

I don't like thematics, but gameplay wise all the new stuff actually seems interesting

[hollow ibex]

but les tanky

[unique orchid]

Its just zealot veteran

[silver patrol]

when are channels for new classes created usually

when they release?

[heavy rover]

Faster vet with less Cadian baggage

[finite plover]

a Scion/Kasrkin class would be an instant buy for me

[broken reef]

During Desperado, the Hive Scum is immune to Ranged Attacks, Sprinting costs no stamina, and reloading does not reduce your Ammo Reserve.

Close Ranged Kills extends the duration of Desperado.

veteran is over lads, it was fun while it lasted

[spark helm]

Ganger reject get

[grim sonnet]

Absolutely same for me. I was really hoping that it would be that.

[spark helm]

Neat

[red robin]

If all this hive ganger stuff furthers the plot, I’m all for it

[fair shale]

Vet 2 has hit darktide

[tall torrent]

deluxe cosmetics look pretty cool
except no gloves

[silver patrol]

that's like

[heavy rover]

Hive ganger doesn't have helbore so we still good

[grim sonnet]

True true, there is a happening

[silver patrol]

they aren't really helping their case with the veteran comparisons

[red robin]

I’m saying if

[finite plover]

Ganger wont have my Plasma Gun so Vet still lives on

[hollow ibex]

the announcement for the release date of the new class text channel will be next monday, 18:00 CET

[grim sonnet]

Wtf is that hair eeeeeeeewwww

[unique orchid]

Vet will have lasguns and precision weapons, ganger seems to be a mid range bruiser

[tall torrent]

it's ok it has the mask

[finite plover]

honestly if that deluxe set had a different headpiece and gloves it would be sick

[ocean idol]

close range*

[broken reef]

i do not care about no plasma gun this dude has literal infinite ammo and infinite stimms, i will leave the crusher horde in shreds before you can spool up a shot

[grim sonnet]

Yeah this seems like a close range skirmisher type of class

[red robin]

All I’m saying, one day we’ll get the omnisian axe halberd gameplay

[unique orchid]

Whatever the case, ganger is just zealot with gun skills

[dense belfry]

this goes hard, what the hell!

[ocean idol]

This is ashinine take without knowing exact numbers

[grim sonnet]

Absolute girlboss cinema

[unique orchid]

The arbi one was way better

[finite plover]

you run out of ammo on vet?

[tall torrent]

yea the dude looks like corvo attano if he was broke

[red robin]

The random stim sfx was a tad bit silly

[queen obsidian]

True if you compare it to the new one

[untold mulch]

Unironically the joke of the delay being about trying to sell the shit a bit better is gonna be right

[grim sonnet]

Haha!

[queen obsidian]

At least they have the dog

[dense belfry]

a sniper? in a horde shooter?

[silver patrol]

isn't that why they delayed the trailer

to cut the part when she injects the stim

[red robin]

Man, i hope they make the stub pistol multiclass

[unique orchid]

The shareholders are going to LOVE this one lads

[ocean idol]

Comment that perfectly sums up my feelings

"Uh… It could be fun, but this is not what I wanted nor expected at all. I may play it, but I’m sincerely not hyped about it. I couldn’t care less about roleplaying as a hive thug.
Also, as someone already said, dual wielding could have been added to vet and zealot and that’s it. I would have liked that way more."

[broken reef]

recon lasgun goes hard sometimes, what i wanted from vet was brrrr, this class is entirely brrr, i will be departing my veteran for a long while

[grim sonnet]

Why would they cut that?

[unique orchid]

Advertising

[finite plover]

ah fair enough, different playstyles for different people

[red robin]

But if they make it so only the hive ganger can duel wield it, I’m gonna bet that would piss off ppl who’ve been wanting duel wielded weapons on vet

[willow prairie]

funny censorship

[unique orchid]

Lots of legal debacle

[silver patrol]

i dunno, maybe they wouldn't want drugs onscreen for advertising

[grim sonnet]

ITS A CRIMINAL

Huh?!

[silver patrol]

they being GW or Fatshark

[red robin]

Reminds me of American dad where is just another characters face reacting to sound effects of drugs being done

[silver patrol]

true

[unique orchid]

Its not even a criminal, just some dumbass they dragged from the hab blocks who smelled vaguely less like piss

[silver patrol]

ah, another crackhead to add to my collection

[red robin]

I do look forward to character banter around this

[gaunt hinge]

the stronger the smell of piss the more powerful the hivescum

[finite plover]

i mean i dont think the average lower hiver isnt a criminal

[silver patrol]

i hope they let you choose between different kind of drugged people

[unique orchid]

If nothing else I will enjoy the cutthroat calling the ganger a moron

[gaunt hinge]

fentganger

[grim sonnet]

Hmm yes, grab the closest crackhead, to the mourningstar they go!

[finite plover]

choose your drug addiction

[broken reef]

if any of the nodes on cartel tree is "heal x% hp" we get ourselves a healer

[finite plover]

i want to be a crack addict

[red robin]

Martydom zealots on sxicide watch

[silver patrol]

i'll pick the zoomer stoned

[worn sapphire]

if they don't give us M1911 skin for the stub pistol boy I will be so fucking mad

wouldn't be too bad to let some other classes use it

[willow prairie]

they can't

[broken reef]

peak idea, tossing healing crates on unsuspecting zealots during every airlock and elevator to fuck them over

[willow pond]

Go green

[willow prairie]

I mean sure 1911 is canon and used by the arbites

[unique orchid]

The morningstar is going to look like a damn s6xn9ne concert for like, 3 days after this dlc pops

[willow prairie]

it doesn't explicitly say it but the design is 100%

[visual badge]

chat crying about hive scum gonna kill veteran when arbites already killed it :(

[red robin]

Ehh

[unique orchid]

Arbi did not kill vet

[red robin]

Idk abt that

[flat steppe]

Killed what? Got me lasgun, got me shovel. Life good

[willow prairie]

arbites did not kill vet

[tall torrent]

the dual wield ones won't

[worn sapphire]

look at it this way: each time vet becomes underpowered they power us up

[willow prairie]

arbites did kill pre rework zealot though

[finite plover]

Arbi and Vet have different niches, my Vet is a long range elite sniper and my arbites is my horde clearing machine

[willow prairie]

[unique orchid]

Vet is still the class for elite sniping

[charred drum]

Brahms is gonna be pissed xD

[worn sapphire]

this is a good thing because we will become stronger

[red robin]

That’s what I’m saying and hoping for

[willow prairie]

not like arbites have any havoc presence due to chorus spam

[surreal rune]

zealot is already pretty weak in multiple categories whilst ganger's skill tree is already shown to occupy those same niches, and will probably overtake zealot

[red robin]

I don’t mind the one stub pistol

[finite plover]

there will always be something satisfying about slamming a bolt of plasma into the sniper's face

[tall torrent]

I'm not sure how strong hive scum will get
but it will probably outclass zealot?

[visual badge]

if hive scum is like zealot but with guns, I think it'll be fine

[unique orchid]

That too, arbi is very selfish

[red robin]

Atleast it’s more weapon options for classes

[tall torrent]

prob not outclassing vet or psyker

[willow prairie]

nowadays chorus and gold toughness have less value shit like thammer zealot get to shine

after rework

[tall torrent]

but ganger does do "range-focused combat" better than vet does lolol

[unique orchid]

Ganger is going to pigeonhole zealot into melee like arbi pushed vet into elite sniping

[visual badge]

veteran is still the greatest anti-ranged long distance class

[willow prairie]

I mean we'll see

[worn sapphire]

i NEED stub pistol for vet

or for any class for that matter

[visual badge]

something that arbites has slowly killed because they can just sic their dog on a special and call it a day

[karmic goblet]

Ganger was such a stupid idea for a class you can literally already make your own hive scum WITH ANY FUCKING CLASS by using the backstory and cosmetics

[west canopy]

I’m sorry vets…

[worn sapphire]

i REQUIRE that 1911 skin to shoot heretics with

[visual badge]

no it's okay, It's already been over since arbites for me

[charred drum]

I just wanna crowbar everything in the face

[thorn lark]

Yeah but it's not a ganger.

[hasty pasture]

Veteran bros is shambles now that the ganger is replacing vet

[charred drum]

I don't care who swings it hahaha

[red robin]

Duel wielded variants are probably for hive ganger, but I’m hoping for vet to get the one handgun for fun ads

[finite plover]

nah we're chilling

[red robin]

But knowing how it’s gonna be, it’s gonna be braced ads

[west canopy]

I know it’s never gonna happen but my dream class is Eldar.

[surreal rune]

vet is already pretty damn strong in melee

[visual badge]

I legit don't think ganger is going to replace veteran

[unique orchid]

Put zealots on watch though, gun zealots are gonna play ganger now

[karmic goblet]

Man you can just pretend. I got a Veteran who’s supposed to be a Bounty Hunter and I have my fun

[cedar knoll]

Yall ready for vet to be benched on Dec 2?

[visual badge]

veteran is THE ranged class, for sniping and getting rid of ranged enemies

[red robin]

More ppl should do this

[visual badge]

ganger to me feels like it's going to be more zealot with guns

[tall torrent]

not rly sure tbh

[willow prairie]

gun zealot lmao

[visual badge]

maybe like slayer bardin?

[hasty pasture]

Ganger is gonna take over healing the team

[thorn lark]

Veteran is a generalist now

[finite plover]

my Vet has been dedicated to elite sniping since the pre order beta

[thorn lark]

He's a pro. He can take any role.

[unique orchid]

Im in shambles because its a hive ganger and not like, a combat servitor

[frozen flint]

will be interesting to see how powerful the rpg is

[thorn lark]

Like a true soldier. Incredible.

[tall torrent]

I think it's zealot getting benched tbh

[visual badge]

if you mean generalist is running gold toughness shout, then sure

[willow prairie]

I can't wait until ganger release and all them mfs take all the ammo because "helping"

[tall torrent]

they literally have an ability where reloading doesn't consume reserve ammo

[red robin]

Lmao, if ganger gets access to bolt pistol, imma be happy abt that

[unique orchid]

Theyre gonna rework that talent so damn fast lmao

[karmic goblet]

Veteran should really have a long las rifle that one-shots

[thorn lark]

All the speedrunners will have a field day with the new class.

[unique orchid]

Helbore

[willow prairie]

I'm talking about the keystone where they give ammo to teammate on pickup

[visual badge]

that's the helbore

[tall torrent]

that's aura

[karmic goblet]

True, true, there should be a scoped version of it then

[visual badge]

real veterans dont need no scope for their helbore

[karmic goblet]

I haven’t played in a minute I forgot about the helbore

[unique orchid]

They just need to make the ironsights less shit

[visual badge]

they miss their shots until one hits

[willow prairie]

yeah but you get it i think

[grim sonnet]

Or they add beter classes that could be stronger than a standard vet guardsman.

[cunning sandal]

It works for anyone in coherency who takes ammo, too.
It's not just procced by Hive Scum.

"When an Ammo pickup is collected by you or your Allies in Coherency, everyone else in Coherency also replenishes a small amount of ammo."

[unique orchid]

And also make the helbore NOT A GOD DAMN CHARGE TRIGGER

[finite plover]

pulling out First Rank, Second Rank from the tabletop lol

[visual badge]

already better than specialist

[willow prairie]

funny boss 1 shot though

[tall torrent]

they kinda ran out of ideas with auras lol
hive scum has a +melee dmg aura (from ogryn) and a +crit chance aura (from psyker)

[unique orchid]

Oh its an anti-ammo hoarder perk, useful

[tall torrent]

meh

[frozen flint]

man zealot just cant stop losing

[manic lake]

vet bros is so over

[red robin]

Man

[unique orchid]

You misunderstand veteran if you think its over

[red robin]

I really hope there’s a talent akin to grenade tinkerer, but for stims

[grim sonnet]

Out of all the things to choose from in the entirety of 40k

[visual badge]

I mean what else can they really do for auras

they're not meant to be super powerful

[manic lake]

I mean that first tree sounds exatly like what vet does

[willow prairie]

I still think zealot won't get benched because the ability to delete boss instantly is good

[thorn lark]

They could have made a remove corruption aura because access to stimms

[grim sonnet]

The chem factory

[visual badge]

field improvisation?

[willow prairie]

problem with bosses in havoc is they put you out of position and spread your team out

[thorn lark]

But for gangers

[frozen flint]

Gameplay trailer when?

[visual badge]

buddy, I think a ganger would give me corruption

[tall torrent]

they flat out get a 2nd tree (with full 30 points) to make ur own stim

they have 2 trees

[red robin]

Neat

[broken reef]

no longer will we be subject to the dumbass that is on orange ammo that walks past the pinged ammo and then spams out of ammo pings, we can finally force feed oblivious people the ammo they refuse to pick up

[willow prairie]

are you team fetanyl or methamphetamine

[finite plover]

crack

[broken reef]

i only use morphine thank you very much

[thorn lark]

That's what has been asked for survivalist since the beginning

[surreal rune]

id like to hear the arbites constantly getting ticked that a ganger is on their team

[grim sonnet]

Bloods or crips type shit

[serene bough]

This class looks kind of weak tbh

[willow prairie]

numbers isn't out yet

[visual badge]

I will die on the hill that survivalist is the least worst aura for veteran

but it still sucks

[thorn lark]

It's too powerful

[willow prairie]

bro the 5% damage aura exist

[visual badge]

the 5% dmg aint doing shit

[tall torrent]

nah they look to be like a top 3 class

[visual badge]

nor is the movement speed, and the survivalist barely clears

[silver patrol]

yooo crowbar and bonesaw

[willow prairie]

top 6

[frozen flint]

class is always gonna be busted on release

[broken reef]

its a berserk absolute glass cannon, either that or its a glass that builds cannon, i cant wait to spend all 30 points on a vile ass stim and inject my nearest zealot with enough illicit substances to see the emperor personally

[cunning sandal]

Grab them by the scruff and shove ammo down their throat

[frozen flint]

gotta farm the $12

[serene bough]

Idk what stims entail but there doesn't seem like much support abilities for this class

[thorn lark]

So crowbar is reskinned shock maul without the shock and the saw is basically a chainsaw without the chain

[broken reef]

you literally get a medicae crate that dispenses your shit

[tall torrent]

The Hive Scum has ‘repurposed’ military gadgets to come up with this customized Medical Crate that can be placed down on the ground. This is a supportive ability that grants nearby Allies the effects of the Hive Scum’s Cartel Special Stimm.

and u have a full 2nd tree that allows u to spec what ur stim does

[elder vessel]

We said this when Arbi dropped, it was not over

[serene bough]

Ah I see

[quick seal]

Guys we’re getting replaced

[visual badge]

lowkey almost is, I feel useless when playing with an arbites

[broken reef]

nah

[serene bough]

I can see right side tree being very good then

[broken reef]

we are getting enhanced

[grim sonnet]

I still dont get how people think the arb "killed" the vet, they are so different from each other.

[serene bough]

Im guessing meta build will be combination of middle and right

[willow prairie]

arb didn't kill vet before rework either

because cdr spam means infinite shout

[broken reef]

imagine being hit with all 3 vanilla stimms at once as a horde approaches, shits gonna go nasty

[tall torrent]

left looks pretty strong too

[willow prairie]

after rework vet is just strong

[visual badge]

"arbites didn't kill vet guys" only runs shout

thats the only thing youre useful for

[tall torrent]

stims override each other

[frozen flint]

shout is the only pick for vet smh my head

[willow prairie]

I mean arbi literally provide nothing in havoc but ok

[serene bough]

Left doesn't impress me yet bc their weapons seem mostly spray and pray

[willow prairie]

exe was good and is pretty busted rn

[visual badge]

I don't play havoc

because it's not fun

[broken reef]

gamer we get to put more n more effects on the custom stimms

[willow prairie]

but shout is more braindead

[grim sonnet]

I run the target marking one, never really used the shouty one

[trim badger]

Shout vet > Arbites > Non shout vet

[serene bough]

Idk many situations where run and gun has been really useful in this game

[visual badge]

I mean it's literally the default ability, it's meant to be

[tall torrent]

I meant that
as of now, getting injected by a diff stim while having a stim active, will just override the original stim's effects with the new one's

[willow prairie]

even then vet still have fucking plasma and psword

[thorn lark]

Exec vet > shout vet

[finite plover]

i am an eternal Executioners stance loyalist

[visual badge]

because run and gun is penalized, thats what I hope the ganger can accomplish

[quick seal]

How much is hive ganger?? Is it gonna be $12 again.

[frozen flint]

But i have to aim with exe....

[frozen flint]

same as arbites

[thorn lark]

Plasma is your friend

Point in the general direction

[visual badge]

wow you guys would recoil at using any actual gun

[grim sonnet]

Its gonna cost you a big ol kiss on my cheek

[visual badge]

use an infantry autogun for once

[serene bough]

I don't think the concept fits darktide in the first place

[finite plover]

you can aim with plasma for even further elite murder capabilities

[quick seal]

mwah 💋

[broken reef]

correct, now i want you to put on your thinking pants and realize i am telling you to imagine a ganger with a maxed out stim crate tossing one down that effectively gives the effects of all 3 vanilla stimms combined.

[serene bough]

Esp in havoc which focuses survival and team cohesion

[tall torrent]

they'll prob have access to the autoguns
just vraks5 would be enough

[willow prairie]

the game with sprinting + sliding + movetech

[visual badge]

heres hoping they make shredder autopistol good

[broken reef]

??

[willow prairie]

shredder can be good but ok

[broken reef]

oh yeah

[frozen flint]

needs changes to spread

cant hit a damn thing

[thorn lark]

Have you played necromunda?

[serene bough]

Yes with melee this is great, with ranged not good at all

[visual badge]

watch them silently remove the hive ganger backstory

thatd be amazing

[zealous copper]

Everyone forgot that the whole plot of the game is about fighting criminals.

[serene bough]

Don't you take increased dmg from melee if caught sprinting?

[visual badge]

no it's about fighting nurgle?

[willow prairie]

where did you get that from

[frozen flint]

we are literally rejects man

[silver patrol]

i wouldn't call the cult and a traitorous legion criminals

[willow prairie]

slide?

[faint beacon]

They hire scum to kill disease worshipping scum

[silver patrol]

the empire cares very little about criminals

[faint beacon]

That’s Darktide summarized

[visual badge]

hive scum shouldve come out before arbites

[thorn lark]

Back in the days yeah but I think that's changed

[visual badge]

not after

[serene bough]

Ur missing the point

[broken reef]

are we really glancing over the fucking rocket launcher?

[visual badge]

I feel like the situation is getting desperate

[grim sonnet]

No no they are correct. The heretics are criminals.

[visual badge]

so theyre just taking every hand they can get

[tall torrent]

limited ammo

[finite plover]

i mean the only thing the Imperium really cares about from planets is the Tithe

[silver patrol]

yeah

[serene bough]

It depends if the tree is built around spray and pray

Cause that seems to be the direction

Move fast run n gun

[tall torrent]

In Your Face: Increased Ranged damage at close range, which is further increased for a short while after reloading.

kinda

[frozen flint]

rpg might be good boss dmg?

but kraks exist

[willow prairie]

anointed in blood cousin

[faint beacon]

as long as they're forced and encouraged more into close range I don't think it'll end up threatening Vet's existence

[broken reef]

i cant wait to watch hadrons circuits start smoking when she watches a ganger bash their gun with a rock to unjam it

[livid hill]

But kraks arent an rpg

[serene bough]

My guess is its gonna be a castigstors stance situation

[frozen flint]

the rule of cool wins again

[broken reef]

for all we know the rpg is like, 6 krak grenades taped together

[livid hill]

Also I doubt they'll have las weapons. Vet utilises las weapons the bestest.

[finite plover]

i mean Krak is just Super HEAT if you think about it

[tall torrent]

not sure if wasting limited rocket ammo on boss is worth unless it does tremendous unyielding dmg (>5 digits) per hit

[livid hill]

LMAO

[willow prairie]

that will be fucking busted since that gonna almost 1 shot weak h40 bosses

[serene bough]

Seems OP at the start but meta slowly phases to more team oriented abilities for havoc

[willow prairie]

6 krak

also overkill everything else

so that pretty bad

[thorn lark]

Pretty sure the next class is mechanicus based with an emphasis on technology and lasers

Just to have a counterpoint to arbites

[livid hill]

Huh

[silver patrol]

just in case, what very lame class could you think about instead of having the admecs

[broken reef]

yeah but nothing says fuck you like hitting the 6th plague ogryn in the jaw with a HEAT missile

[tall torrent]

Hyper-Violence: Upon Melee kill, gain bonus Melee Damage based on amount of overkill damage.

prob the coolest new talent they're adding
hopefully hive scum will actually have good melee weapons that utilize this

[livid hill]

Did you

Not see the news?

[void dragon]

People are crazy for the ganger class it's kinda funny

[frozen flint]

next class?

[thorn lark]

The next next one

[frozen flint]

ganger so bad he erased it from his memory

[willow prairie]

combat axe upscale?

[rare vale]

Please tell me this chat is being more reasonable than genchat

[livid hill]

Naw tbh ganger class is cool as a necromunda fan

[thorn lark]

They're planning 3 or 4 different classes

[grim sonnet]

Guys its a bad dream actually. Kasrkin reveal real! Its gonna happen in 5 minutes.

[finite plover]

yeah its chill here

[broken reef]

we are discussing if the dude with infinite ammo replacing vet or not

[tall torrent]

maybe?

[livid hill]

KANT BELEEV DIS...

IN A YOONIVERSS FIWWED WIFF:

SQUIGZ

MEKZ

TANKBUSTAZ

FLASHGITZ

NOBZ

DESE GITS CHOZE TA MAEK AH GAEM 'BOUT ZOGGIN' 'UMIES INSTED! NOT WASTIN' MY TEEF ON DIS!

[tall torrent]

it's kinda funny that hive scum gets 2 "stance-like" abilities lol

[void dragon]

I want to see how it feels to play a full Stim high melee brawler with this class

[grim sonnet]

Realest shit ever

[willow prairie]

I think it depend on if it counts bm cleave overkill damage

[rare vale]

Doubtful, I don’t think hiver weapons will have the same kind of punch that vet weapons do

[void dragon]

Do we know now why was the delay? Or that's still a mystery?

[broken reef]

i am betting its either gonna be people minn-maxxing the stim timer to have 100% uptime on substantial buffs or a dude putting everything in and having a godmode every 2 minutes

[frozen flint]

psword and plasma will still go crazy

[void dragon]

Most likely will need to be CqC to make them punch good, surely it's falloff damage will be noticeable

[finite plover]

i flip between Psword and Chainsword personally

[livid hill]

I just want them to focus on new levels and enemy types instead of new classes after this.

[tall torrent]

no

[livid hill]

Chainsword louder so itz betta

[finite plover]

Chainsword is infinitely better for bosses

[rare vale]

My fear is that their weapons won’t scale nicely to harder difficulties
It kinda sucks dumping 3-4 rounds into a chaff enemy and that enemy not being dead

[willow prairie]

bruh

[thorn lark]

No

[serene bough]

Kind of where I stand currently

[finite plover]

i should specify my bad, i meant for shielded bosses

unless my Psword i have is just bad lol

[void dragon]

I'm sure they will escale...maybe
The thing is that it's likely that you need to get in the enemy face to make them eat your gun so they explode in lead

[serene bough]

Middle and right 100% will fit but im not sure about left yet

[frozen flint]

are we getting another tease with some gameplay and numbers or no?

[livid hill]

I feel like this will come with a autopistol buff like how arby came with a combat shotgun and shmaul buff

[fair shale]

Yall see desperado too?

[tropic warren]

yea

[void dragon]

Unlikely I feel, we will have to wait to release considering how accidental the reveal was

[rare vale]

Do we have any melee weapon examples aside from the crowbar?

[broken reef]

shredder buff on the 2nd trust

[tall torrent]

it's def gonna be a fun ability

however

[livid hill]

Some kind of buzzsaw or something?

[tall torrent]

rampage and stim crate just seem more useful

[fair shale]

It looks like OG Exe Stance on crack to me tbh

[livid hill]

Tiny gunlugger

[tall torrent]

it doesn't buff dmg

[fair shale]

But it does negate a lot of the most fucked up damage like OG Exe

[frozen flint]

Cant send imgs but there was crowbar and dual wield shivs

[tall torrent]

yes

[livid hill]

Also doesnt seem to give toughness or decrease spread. And obv doesn't make u see things better

[tall torrent]

yea

[pearl oasis]

Shivs, Crowbars, and Buzzsaws, according to the steam page

[frozen flint]

very excited for dual wield knives ngl

[fair shale]

Thats fair, the ranged damage immunity just brings back memories of classic exe stance for me

[tall torrent]

if the dual wield shivs have uncanny strike I will crash the fuck out

[slow spade]

Its just 2 mk.6s you spam UwU

[rare vale]

Interesting, wonder what that’ll look like

[fair shale]

Theyre going to have uncanny flesh tearer

[slow spade]

It'll be like rogue trader buzzsaws where they 1-tap space marines and cleave greater daemons in half

[willow prairie]

dual dagger

[livid hill]

I like reconlas + exec stance (even if its deffo not meta worthy) cause I fucking hate gunners

[willow prairie]

zero cleave and a dream

[visual badge]

alright thats it, next class is space marine just to fuck over the mechanicus fans

[pearl oasis]

There is a snapshot at the end of the trailer showing the weapons in their deluxe skins

[visual badge]

maybe we can finally get a proper space marine 2 game

[pearl oasis]

I am just realising now, you probably meant in terms of gameplay

I'm thinking that class 7 will be Mechanicus and class 8 will be Aeldar

[faint beacon]

Fuck with the Deluxe Outfit

[rare vale]

Is that a hand-drill-?

[tall torrent]

budget corvo attano

[faint beacon]

Needle pistol probs

[slow spade]

Looks like a needle pistol

[tall torrent]

nah doubt

[pearl oasis]

Stim Gun XD

[faint beacon]

I see myself playing Crowbar

[slow spade]

Same, needle pistol is high grade

But eh they've added weirder

[calm shard]

does the autopistol need buffs though?

[livid hill]

Lmao at the literal 1911

[pearl oasis]

Could be a tox needle launcher, as a way of adding ranged tox damage

[livid hill]

YES

[slow spade]

Yes, bring back pre-nerf autopistol

[tall torrent]

in the grim darkness of the far future

[slow spade]

I want 200 damage a shot shredder pistol back

[regal ingot]

What is a fun and decent build for harder content

[livid hill]

Im all for hive scum class but dawg i'm not paying money for a hairstyle

[frozen flint]

just took a peek in gen chat

[tall torrent]

arb also had this no?

[frozen flint]

would not recommend

[livid hill]

Didnt buy that either

Also didnt like that

[pearl oasis]

Unique dog skin iirc?

[finite plover]

like staring directly into the warp bad?

[livid hill]

Cosmetic dlc are lame and greedy

All of them

[tall torrent]

I mean
I'd get it for the character & weapon cosmetics
Idrc abt the hairstyles cuz I use helmet + masks on my characters

[livid hill]

(Buys them anyways)

[crystal ravine]

So this chat seems calmer. Has the news for the new class come out yet?

[slow spade]

Yes

It's a ganger

[frozen flint]

Yup, hive scum

[slow spade]

:c

[narrow widget]

vet 3 believers stay winning

[slow spade]

Not even a cool ganger like some Van Saar fucker

[narrow widget]

can't believe anyone thought otherwise

[crystal ravine]

bruh

I had my hopes up for nothing

[slow spade]

To be fair, I was hoping for an explosives guy for more booms

[slow spade]

Didn't even get that

[tall torrent]

on the bright side

u do get to play as budget corvo attano

[crystal ravine]

again bruh

[frozen flint]

I think most people wanted something radically different

and we just got gun zealot

[grim sonnet]

They couldnt even give us a bounty hunter type of hive scum 😭

[slow spade]

Like an ultramarine

[serene bough]

Why are people saying this class is vet 2.0

[slow spade]

Give me an ararchni-suit ganger UwU

[crystal ravine]

I want something admech and ill be happy

[calm shard]

arbites wasn't even veteran 2 :/

[grim sonnet]

Smooth brain

[calm shard]

they say this about every change made to any class

[serene bough]

I dont understand why

[calm shard]

(because veteran is the most popular class by far and its population numbers noticably drop any time changes happen to other classes as vet players try them out)

[slow spade]

To be fair I wouldn't mind a special weapon guardsmen with special weapon ults

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yeah it's obviously vet 3 smh how can they be so smooth brained

[slow spade]

I just want bigger guns :c

[pseudo fiber]

Everyone wanted Vet 3 but red
Now we didn't get that

[slow spade]

Melta guns are so cool in rogue trader but they're so ass 😭

[grim sonnet]

ahem something something I really like kasrkin

[crystal ravine]

well I got my answer. A very disappointing one and I will now mute this server till something else happens.

[slow spade]

The Fatshark classic

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I'm ngl the class seems cool tho

[frozen flint]

[slow spade]

Same, would fit the Cadia vibes the Vet has in some its lines

[calm shard]

of course they do but everyone was expecting skitarii

[crystal ravine]

it is and I will play it but man I want a Skittari or something

[calm shard]

because when arbites released there was a wave of arbites content from James Workshop

and the same thing was happening now with admech

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skitarii and sister of battle are such a pipe dream lol

like ain't no way

[calm shard]

we have a psyker and an ogryn

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esp after "broker" got leaked

[calm shard]

you know ogryn?

[viral plank]

Idk if Skitarii was that far fetched

[calm shard]

those guys canonically stronger than space marines?

physically anyways

[slow spade]

Skitarii ranger pls

[grim sonnet]

skitarii aint that far fetched

[slow spade]

I like galvonic rifles

[pseudo fiber]

wave of like 1 other game

[slow spade]

"I PASTE heretic astartes" -local galvonic rifle user

[livid hill]

Dont galvanic rifles home in on their target and kill basically everything in one hit. That sounds hard to balance imho

[near abyss]

It absolutely was. Skitarii is the miliant force exclusive to the AdMech. At the very BEST we could get lowest rank engineseer.

The hype for Skitarii was not only unfounded but also utterly ridiculous

[slow spade]

Yeah but lets be honest, Darktide is already underdelivering. Might as well aim high so maybe it hits something decent

[grim sonnet]

Not sure if they hone in, but the other thing yeah.

[slow spade]

Primaris for darktide when?

[viral plank]

yeah and we still got Arbites

[livid hill]

We live in different worlds if you think darktide is under delivering. The issue with fs is that they don't do things enough (and greed ofc) not that they do things poorly

[slow spade]

We should aim higher. Next class is Mortarian's redemption arc

[livid hill]

Next class is James Workshop himself

[grim sonnet]

ts aint ever happening 🙏

[slow spade]

stares all the delays, broken content, and months long update schedule

right...

[near abyss]

And? How is that an argument against my point?

[viral plank]

The Inquisition doesn't control the Arbites but they're still in the game.

[livid hill]

Yeah like i said, they don't do enough.

[serene bough]

Well at any rate I do think the class is cool

[near abyss]

Irrelevant. Arbites are direct part of the Imperium's judisdictional forces, not an entire faction that is mostly nominally part of the IoM.

[serene bough]

I would like to try the chemist archetype first

[livid hill]

Arbites makes WAYYY more sense. Arbites are everywhere and enforce the law in hive cities. The adeptus mechanicus are a giant corporation and their skits are basically their own private army

[calm shard]

fuck me this is the way I play veteran and it's apparently going to be the way the ganger is designed

I might have to change my name again if they don't fuck it up

[viral plank]

what exactly is your point here?

[calm shard]

goddamnit

[grim sonnet]

VET IS SO OVER

[slow spade]

Right...

[calm shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124335205650538509/1283126260775784529/bonk_loop.gif

[near abyss]

Arbites is akin to federal police/tax collectors on galactic scale. They don't get involved unless a planet doesn't pay a Tithe. And Atoma has been long overdue on that

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fart shart knows we needed vet 3

[viral plank]

This planet is famous for it's industry. We have a mission where we make some +6% extra good steel. The AdMech would be interested in that.

[calm shard]

oh thank god they actually have a 2nd ammo aura

Okay fine the Veteran 2 naysayers may have a point this time

[near abyss]

My point is Arbites always were more likely to appear, as well as criminal elements that is being introduced, over Skitarii that never operate outside of AdMech direct involvement

[slow spade]

Surely they won't let it stack again UwU

[calm shard]

different proc condition they will 100% stack

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it's not naysaying if it's true

[viral plank]

We already have two tech priest characters. The AdMech are already involved.

[slow spade]

Gunlugger ogryns eating good

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indirect bumbler buffs

[near abyss]

Hadron is part of Inquisitorial retune, another is part of Rogue Trader's crew. AdMech was never involved. Smh bro, take an L

[gaunt hinge]

theyre more inquisitorally kidnapped

[viral plank]

You do know that the Tech Priests are AdMech right?

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survivalist and gunslinger work completely different from each other and people are crying it's just veteran 2?

literally what does ganger do that is "veteran"-ish

[frozen flint]

i see 'ammo', i say 'vet 2,0'

neuron activation

[near abyss]

Pointless to explain to those who don't want to see

[viral plank]

ditto I suppose

[calm shard]

ammo aura and ranged weapon focus

I'd say this is the closest the people comparing every single class rework to veteran have been to being correct

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"ammo aura" doesn't work same as survivalist, "ranged weapon focus" is the opposite of executioner stance

survivalist gets ammo from killing specials, you and teammates

gunslinger gives rest of people in coherency ammo from ammo piles

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it doesn't matter the vet 3 agenda must continue

[calm shard]

I don't even get why people say Arbites is vet 2

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https://tenor.com/view/maintaining-the-agenda-agenda-is-priority-priority-agenda-maintain-the-agenda-the-agenda-gif-3278548794073012331

[calm shard]

When they're obviously a gene splicing of Ogryn/Zealot

With a cool dog

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I've shot that dog more than I have shot poxhounds

they're a blight for my ammo conservation

[viral plank]

I wonder if the size of the ammo pickup affects the aura ammo bonus.

or if it's just static

[grim sonnet]

huh?!!

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oh so I'm the bad guy for shooting the 4 legged thing that is running at me in a game where one of the special enemies is a dog that disables you

[grim sonnet]

ITS STILL A DOG

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and poxhound is a dog too

my reflexes will not think twice

[grim sonnet]

Eviiil! 🫵

[tall torrent]

doesn't arb dog have outline

[visual badge]

nope

at least not in my games

[viral plank]

wait what

[tall torrent]

check ur interface settings

[viral plank]

maybe it's a settings thing

[tall torrent]

u prob turned it off

[visual badge]

maybe, I don't check them often

but it's still a 4 legged thing running at me

as far as I remember, a poxhound doesn't stand on two legs

[hollow ibex]

Vet does everything so every class that isn’t psyker is vet 2

[frozen flint]

when you think about it psyker is just staff vet

[pseudo fiber]

Vet is default

[grim sonnet]

nah psyker is vet 2

[calm shard]

actually Psyker is infact vet 2

infinite cleave is property of double barrel veteran

[grim sonnet]

Vet can actually do psyker things, they just hide it

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this is true ganger is vet 6

[calm shard]

and shredder grenades

[frozen flint]

vet bubble when?

[calm shard]

smoke grenades

[viral plank]

which is kinda crazy considering imo vet has the most optional keystones.

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I'm kinda jealous that gangers get blind grenades

[frozen flint]

holy shit actually true

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why does veteran get useless smoke grenades and not the literal veteran with flashbangs

[calm shard]

zealot has had them forever

[grim sonnet]

dont the zealot also have that

yeah

[calm shard]

literally their first blitz when the game released

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oh right yea

[calm shard]

also calling smoke grenades "useless" lol

literally better psyker bubble that you get 3 of

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okay not useless

just worse than krak and shredder

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useless

ok

[gaunt laurel]

also
wouldn't hive scum be the most susceptible to Nurgle

[grim sonnet]

yep

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whatever they put in their stims is good enough

[gaunt laurel]

so we potentially have hundreds of secret nurgle zealots on the ship now, especially when we know the stimm trade is corrupted