#veteran-class

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steel barn
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What's the best boltgun perks/blessings? Currently got it set up like this but I feel it could be better

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Need to switch reload speed but not sure what too

hybrid plover
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Unyielding

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Also.

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You probably want Pinning Fire on bolter instead of Inspiring Barrage

orchid hemlock
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Inspiring on bolt gun 😭

dry wedge
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@hybrid plover had a go at your trench shotgunner build and it let me carry probably the worst pugs I've played with yet lol

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so, working as intended

hybrid plover
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I am glad to see the way of the shovel coming forth with such fervour.

steel barn
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Trench Shotgunner?

dry wedge
hybrid plover
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double barrel with proper application is one of the best ranged weapons in the game

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because it's the only thing that can actually go toe to toe with inferno in terms of raw killing potential with mixed horde clear

steel barn
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Didn't think DB would be that good tbh considering only 2 rounds

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Even if it has quick reload

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Never tried it tho so idk

hybrid plover
dry wedge
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Well one of the perks is getting 1 round back upon elite/specialist kill

hybrid plover
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Or Always Prepared, specifically.

dry wedge
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So as long as you're swapping between melee and ranged you'll only have to reload if you ADS

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But it's genuinely the most fun I've had with Vet for a while. The overall feel is akin to how I run my Arby build

hollow ibex
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yeah WS is peak

hollow ibex
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what happened?

calm shard
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listen to the audio

normal lion
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the assassin's creed poxbuster

silver patrol
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how good is marksman's focus with recon lasguns

calm shard
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Mid as fuck

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It sure does increase the damage

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Technically

silver patrol
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actually, what's recon lasguns' finesse/weakspot multiplier

tropic halo
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She is quite a pretty boss

sharp epoch
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and its 1.3

dapper coyote
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Is agile engagement good with reccy?

gusty escarp
jaunty sphinx
charred drum
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If they delayed it must be good then

tropic halo
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delayed until update release

dapper coyote
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Delayed after release

charred drum
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Definitively after release

dapper coyote
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looks at the rations event

jaunty sphinx
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I liked that event

charred drum
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I've played worse events in worse games, was okay

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Up until the part the options to destroy rashuns

dapper coyote
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Its the trailer for the event

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Several days after the event then the trailer shows up

jaunty sphinx
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Oh right

dapper coyote
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WAIT A MINUTE

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VETS SUPPOSED TO GET MELTA

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HMMMMMMMMM

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FATSHARK, WHERE'S MAH MELTA GUN!?

grim sonnet
ocean idol
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wtf is this, how do i fix this?

dapper coyote
ocean idol
distant mural
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Dont bother u never get to use that shit anyway

dapper coyote
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Because its funny

autumn ferry
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ogryn clap is the best emote smh

ocean idol
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this guy makes me afraid

shy sphinx
steep flower
mystic lodge
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Moebian 6th is just entertainment to him

void dragon
mystic lodge
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"Veteran? Pfft. Ive been a veteran for longer than you have been alive son"

void dragon
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"These rookies are so green and spoiled, we didn't have much gear in my time, just one mag of LasPistol ammo and spoiled coffe bags and we got shit done"

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"you mean a LasPistol with one ammo mag right gramps?"

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"I know what I said you hooligan!" *bonks you with a shovel

dapper coyote
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"Back in my days krak takes 5 business days to explode and we still busted a leman russ with it before it explodes"

ocean idol
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why you all decided it was about age...

hybrid flame
void dragon
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Guardsmen that live longer than one fight in a war are a rare and dangerous breed

ocean idol
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the guy literally looks like stereotypical bdsm gay from 80s, and first thing you notice is age?

void dragon
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Is this the stereotypical thingaehatchashay? I thought that he looked rugged crazy Quijote in the 41th millennium, specially considering there are more crazy things around

ocean idol
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No, you don't know anything about the lore, and "average guardsman life expictancy os 15 minute" is wrong myth

void dragon
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(stares as the BDSM mask of zealot and arby)

void dragon
surreal rune
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so when today does the announcement drop

tame lodge
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Past midnight

hasty pasture
tall torrent
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Today’s 17th

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Prob tmr mid-day

surreal rune
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ah right

sly orchid
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at 6pm european time

hasty pasture
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Eww

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European time

spark helm
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With a pegleg

tame lodge
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[DELETED BY ADMINS]

spark helm
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Weak mod moment

void dragon
dapper coyote
void dragon
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So we might land in the good timeline when the Felinid Bioweapon class is revealed? We're SO back!

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(actual chances: 0.000%)

dry wedge
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We are so not back

red portal
serene bough
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Class reveal tomorrow is exciting

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Surely the announcement wouldn't be delayed a second time

hollow ibex
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second announcement is just the class being delayed entirely uwugryn

buoyant aurora
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They will just announce that new class is Vet 2.0 KEKW_ogryn

distant plaza
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Isn’t that arbitrator?

red portal
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Vet 3.0

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They also launch with power sword

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And relic blade

charred drum
buoyant aurora
orchid hemlock
serene bough
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I dont like anime

orchid hemlock
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Me neither

pseudo fiber
serene bough
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I will chuckle

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But hopefully it isn't

inner iris
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are shotguns worth it

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i want to use shotguns for my catachan/doomslayer roleplay build

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but their damage seems kinda meh honestly

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very fun to use tho

red portal
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Use it with flak/unyielding flak/maniac

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It's more of a elite sniping weapon though.

inner iris
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theyll never be good vs carapace im guessing

red portal
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It can do decent damage with the slug but it's honestly not worth the ammo past using it to quickly save a teammate from a overhead, or stagger

hasty pasture
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The best shotgun is arbies shotgun

fair shale
hasty pasture
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I can usually one shot most enemies with arbites shotgun

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🤷‍♂️

fair shale
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Which diff?

red portal
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Arby still likes the aggripina in higher havocs cause of ammo.

hasty pasture
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Damnation

inner iris
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double barrel is my favourite because of weapons specialists instant reload (doomslayer mode)

fair shale
red portal
hasty pasture
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Havoc i dont focus on range kills. I let others do it

fair shale
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It feels like the exact same breakpoints as the VIII with 1.5x as much ammo

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Its not like you're sacrificing anything for the ammo, yk?

red portal
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It has better cleave

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Not that you care about that really.

fair shale
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Not on Arb anyway

azure narwhal
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Exec shotgun is no hail mary for ammo economy but i don't think it's necessarily problematic either. Depending on the mk, there's only so many things you're going to be inclined to shoot as arbitrator

surreal rune
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once you get sustained fire and deathspitter going, the wideshot exec mark can kill hordes of elites pretty easily

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like stupidly easy

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it still has the electric shot for stunning enemies too

azure narwhal
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I used to play dogless for a very long time but im picking up dog for variety now

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Still running practically the same BTL + Forceful build

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Just switched lone wolf for electrocuted jaws and walk it off for the dog proximity toughness regen

fair shale
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I can get exactly what I run actually

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This+HV/Execution Maul and Agri CS with No Respite and Full Bore

silk solstice
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shovel mid

tame lodge
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Trust me, it'll get buffed next patch

carmine wasp
willow prairie
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db enjoyer when they have to hit anything past 2 meters

fair shale
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What diff?

tall torrent
fair shale
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Yeah, reasonable

tall torrent
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havoc would be like

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8s

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maybe 9s

tame lodge
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2-3 secs diff money

fair shale
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Havoc prolly wouldve had 2 spawns and 975 poxwalkers, I could've figured that out tbh

tame lodge
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My goat washed Sitgryn

willow prairie
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my ass tried framegen and aiming is so ass fr

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Idk how you get used to it

tall torrent
tame lodge
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Relatable 💀

tall torrent
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even tho I dodged

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and not backwards

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to right

tall torrent
fair shale
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You can't just use the best melee in the game to kill everything

willow prairie
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vet is a melee class until psword get fucked over

fair shale
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That already happened

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They nerfed PS actual ages ago and people baby raged about PC not giving 7 charged swings anymore

jaunty sphinx
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Remember when they nerfed the psword in the beta and vet mains review bombed

fair shale
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Yes

jaunty sphinx
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YEAH LOL

fair shale
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Yes I do

tall torrent
willow prairie
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can't relate since i first played in 23 and not vet

fair shale
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Ive been playing this fuck ass game since beta

jaunty sphinx
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Same

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I'm still trash tho

fair shale
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I don't think I'm that bad but I cannot drag people through missions past Havoc 24 ish so I'm not good either

tall torrent
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revolver actually has like the best breakpoints in the game now

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at least on vet

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1 crit bodyshot mauler

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1 crit bodyshot reaper

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almost 1 crit bodyshot scab rager

void dragon
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and its balanced against its ammo pool and reload loop

tall torrent
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not sure tbh

willow prairie
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the reload is ass

tall torrent
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it's so much higher dmg than legit everything else besides helbore 4

willow prairie
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weapon feel like shit without wp even then there srill limitations

tall torrent
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85.6% ranged crit hit rate lmao

void dragon
void dragon
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its usable, but that extra mental taxes make a difference

tall torrent
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not much tbh

fair shale
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I cant speak to numbers but Revo feels better than Plas or HB to me

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Like to simply use

void dragon
tall torrent
willow prairie
tame lodge
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Yes vet is indeed the ranged class
The power sword adds what? 40cm to my arm
So technically all my attacks are ranged

willow prairie
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even if it not that much faster than fast charge plasma or non mk4 helbore

void dragon
tame lodge
tame lodge
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One day we'll be allowed to throw hands on Darktide

willow prairie
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I mean wife beater combo already exist

void dragon
analog mural
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Power fist when

tall torrent
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auric HiSTG spawn rate pretty good rn (29 min game)

willow prairie
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better than dealing with rot stim

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😔

tall torrent
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revolver's draw-to-fire at base is like 0.2s lol

void dragon
tame lodge
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Not enough

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Not enough

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NOT ENOUGH

void dragon
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Ogryn knuckledusters when?

tame lodge
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I do love cleaver 6 and Brunt's Pride though

willow prairie
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unstoppable momentum enjoyer take 3 business days to kill anything

void dragon
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But the enemies are staggered so much on its boldness that they also cant kill him in that time

hollow ibex
tall torrent
hollow ibex
# tall torrent it's fun

Yeah I don’t mind it though it does get to the point where it feels like I’m just constantly shooting specialists

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Because nobody else gives a shit

void dragon
calm shard
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I am not complaining about doing it more

kindred epoch
calm shard
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oh yeah brauto moment

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being the worst ranged weapon in the game comes with its downsides

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poor boy

hollow ibex
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auric match with 230+ specialist killed

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by me alone

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at least i think the scoreboard counts specs/disablers totally separate

calm shard
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I wouldn't know I use Power DI instead

kindred epoch
tame lodge
calm shard
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44 bullets to kill a bomber

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peak brauto indeed

tame lodge
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Hate how spread lessens on the final shots

kindred epoch
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The brautogun doesn't care about ammo count, he will just steal it from the plasma vet

void dragon
calm shard
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maybe if it made that sound all the time

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vigilant autogun sound changes have convinced me that guns need to sound cooler

viscid sparrow
# tame lodge Hate how spread lessens on the final shots

me too. saving ammo by not continuously shooting between targets makes the spread bad again and again...

this is exactly why I would use Agri Brauto instead, even with its sluggish firerate and wide-ish spread when not running Exe Stance...

calm shard
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or just use the shredder autopistol like a sane person

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low spread and a real damage profile

tall torrent
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@calm shard can u go test

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boltpistol on arb

viscid sparrow
tall torrent
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maniac headshot dmg

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mk IV
with +25% maniac perk, +25% flak, puncture, lethal prox

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with this talent spec

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because the dmg simply does not add up and I think it's his mods showing inaccurate information

kindred epoch
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Before the update I use brautogun for a suppression build and it did very well! I still do like 80% so it's not the 100 it was but heretics still fear me

calm shard
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uh okay

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lemme turn my mods off

tall torrent
livid hill
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Which vet personality would kruber get along best with

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Professional

fair shale
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I think M LC tbh

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They're both kinda world weary

calm shard
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all buffs active is 1895

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or well most active anyways

tall torrent
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another day another instance of healthbar turning out to be wrong

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prob h40 meat grinder mod also being wack

calm shard
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gets 2022 with actually all of them

tame lodge
tall torrent
vapid thunder
stuck gorge
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ask the man himself

hollow ibex
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Smauls ok against crushers

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And you’ve got graia too

calm shard
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also smaul is okay into them

ocean idol
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How melee vet compares to zealot now, after talent reworks?

tall torrent
ocean idol
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I think it is hard to beat martyr zealot now

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And stealth ult of zealot is so much better than vet's now

tall torrent
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tho zealot's weapons still hold it back a lot

hybrid plover
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Vet's bottom right just inflates their damage so much that even martyr zealot can't fully contest.

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Zealot does have the edge with survivability though

ocean idol
calm shard
hybrid plover
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Power sword

calm shard
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stupid broken ass weapon

tall torrent
hybrid plover
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Abrasively overpowered as a melee weapon

ocean idol
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Yeah, but power sword on melee focused vet feels ass becuase you have to charge it all the time

calm shard
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maybe if relic blade had psword cleave and sunder it'd be as good :)

ocean idol
tall torrent
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still slower atk speed and worse single target dps

hybrid plover
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It does. But there's no arguing that there's a reason it's designed like that

tall torrent
calm shard
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yeah still doesn't have the comical single target damage of psword

ocean idol
tall torrent
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this is pretty common knowledge at this point no?

tame lodge
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What shock maul actually sucks against is Unyielding
More specifically monstrosities

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Because you can at least reliably proc Skrusher against Warks and Reeps

ocean idol
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ok, good

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because i don't like zealot thematically

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but want to be mostly melee focused

tall torrent
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falchion 3 hit crusher for ~5k dps

calm shard
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what did fatshark mean by this

tall torrent
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just 90% of it

tame lodge
ocean idol
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Any idea what tomorrow's class going to be

calm shard
ocean idol
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i pray for smuggler using xenos weaponry

tall torrent
tame lodge
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Stevus from accounting

ocean idol
fresh spire
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Is the serrated blade + shovel bleed combo any good? I heard skullcrusher boosts bleed

tame lodge
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It's there and it exists

hybrid plover
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It's nice to have for bosses when you can stagger them but I feel decimator is generally better

void dragon
tall torrent
compact oracle
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but the voices told me it would be delayed by a week

hybrid plover
ocean idol
ocean idol
calm shard
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like half of the ogryn melee weapons

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the crusher, and shock maul

ocean idol
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Marksman focus or focus target for bolter?

sharp epoch
ocean idol
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Also i am still annoyed bolter can kill whole lines of enemies

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this is so dumb

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it is fucking rockets

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they should stop at first target

void dragon
ocean idol
calm shard
compact oracle
calm shard
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it can be decent on vet shovel IF you are using shredder grenades

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since the grenade explosions will apply skullcrusher while you have shovel out

compact oracle
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they're not even the strongest gun vet has

calm shard
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and boost the bleed damage

calm shard
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bolters don't have cleave beyond their arming distance

ocean idol
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Also what are good blessings for chsword

calm shard
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Wrath/Rampage+Shred

ocean idol
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Are chswords any good now?

calm shard
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veteran can force them to work

ocean idol
void dragon
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Why use smaul when crusher fulfils similar role?

calm shard
ocean idol
calm shard
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I would say only for left side vet

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with kraks

ocean idol
calm shard
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chord doesn't need help to be good at horde clear

ocean idol
calm shard
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but it is completely hopeless into carapace

compact oracle
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crusher sucks KEKW_ogryn

calm shard
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so just like

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helbore IV

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crusher gone

ocean idol
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also which chsword

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there wwere some changes to theeir moveset

calm shard
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I think both are good now?

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I prefer XIIIg because the big overhead heavies stagger ragers

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And I don't like having to rely on Mk IV's push attack for that

void dragon
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The chswords had moveset changes?

calm shard
tall torrent
tall torrent
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Can finally handle small rager groups without hp chip

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But not good vs large rager groups

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And not that good at single target

ocean idol
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anyone knows how to fix these messages

silver patrol
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you prob enabled something you shouldn't have in the scoreboard mod settings

tall torrent
ocean idol
tall torrent
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Reset its mod settings then reconfigure

tame lodge
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Make sure it's the one with the sister of battle on the screen

stuck gorge
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if above doesn’t work

tall torrent
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powerDI is always an option

fair crane
normal sparrow
neat stratus
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Do we like lasguns chat

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And if so which lasguns are the bestest

spark helm
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Depends on what you wanna do with them. Helbore, recon and heavy laspistols can put in a lot of work. Infantry lasgun can have their uses and can definitely deliver as well, you'll just have to accept any limitations and nuances for what it takes to push them higher and higher.

mystic lodge
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For infantry lasguns, I havent touched the recon lasguns or helbore

final locust
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here we go again

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anything cool added recently?

neat stratus
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Oh god is this a common talk

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Oh

tame lodge
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Recons are ok, not my cup of tea
Helbores are goated
Laspistol is ok

tall torrent
# neat stratus And if so which lasguns are the bestest

helbore strong but wants specific range-focused spec
laspistol is versatile and works with all builds
recon are easiest to use but don't kill specialists that fast
inf las are in an awkward spot where they want even more talent spec than helbore (rending talents) but don't perform as good

mystic lodge
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For killing specialists I love the IAG (Agripinaa)

fossil creek
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Been using the recon lasgun alot now but its kinda boring at this point

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+bayonet

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+krieg aura

fading yarrow
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It's been weeks(months?) and my Vet's emotes are still busted

pseudo fiber
fading yarrow
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But now I'm finding one of the loadouts also has a bugged Title

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There we go

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Only took like, ten retries

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This spaghetti game man

dapper coyote
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Reccy for infernus + brrr memes

HB for sniper charged up memes

dapper coyote
tame lodge
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Omg Genderperson

dapper coyote
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🫂

tame lodge
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Hi

warm flower
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fellas, which assault chainsword mark do you think is better overall? cheers

calm shard
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XIIIg

surreal rune
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xiiig has better heavies

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cadian has easier horde clear

warm flower
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neat

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and does the veteran bible still apply to perks and blessings?

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I know there were chain weapon changes

surreal rune
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the one in the pins?

warm flower
surreal rune
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they should be fine as on the weapons

hollow ibex
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i think iv is actually stronger

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but i prefer xiii

surreal rune
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but veteran's skill tree has been reworked

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actually, there may be some slight changes with refinements due to the different breakpoints now

surreal rune
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for the purposes that you would use the chainsword usually for, flak maniac or flak unyielding are good picks

warm flower
tall torrent
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I run shred + wrath

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flak + maniac/unyielding for perks prob

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it's pretty hard to push either chainsword to consistently 1 tap crusher with activated heavy atk

hollow ibex
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chaxe better thumbsup_ogryn

tall torrent
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yea

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chainaxe can still use more tho

hollow ibex
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unyielding damage? 🤔

tall torrent
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I don't think it's enough reward for its risk either

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none of the chain weapons are

surreal rune
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i like the mk4 chainaxe on zealot

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with martyrdom

tall torrent
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but chainaxe XII prob the closest one to being good out of all of them

surreal rune
# surreal rune with martyrdom

the damage buffs make up breakpoints for ragers and maulers whilst the attack speed buffs make using revs much more safe

hollow ibex
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it's crazy how you still can't cancel the smaul special

void dragon
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Question: what helps the horde clear of the Taxe more: the melee damage node or bleeding?

hollow ibex
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unlike chain weapons

void dragon
hollow ibex
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🤔

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hmm

void dragon
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it would be suicidal using it and i have use it multiple times

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even when out of effective dodges you can do it im sure

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just tried it, with both mks work

hollow ibex
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yeah i think so

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thought it couldn't

void dragon
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Which one is the better smaul mk? I think I have been using the mk3 for a while already but not sure of Ia

hollow ibex
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3's the better one

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H L horde clear

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the 1 has worse angles on its horde clear and iirc single target is pretyt much the same

tall torrent
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is it just me or the game is rubberbanding crazy

hybrid plover
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it's been like this for me for several days now

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and it's driving me up the god damn wall

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rubberbanding and really inconsistent ping

hybrid plover
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i should be recording the bullshit happening to me

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that happened to me like three games ago

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but like

tall torrent
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steam recording does wonders

hybrid plover
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trappers are sometimes instantly shooting

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mutants have telekinesis

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shroudfield relic got me feeling like a zealot main rn

tall torrent
spark helm
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Tuesday cometh

distant mural
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Having the same issue with games just not running well anymore.

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I think its just driver issues tbh

tall torrent
hybrid plover
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it's been like this for me for a while

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and i've tried other games but they don't seem to be having this issue either

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and it's not my internet either

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idk what's going on

distant mural
tall torrent
tall torrent
distant mural
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I even reset my pc yesterday nothing helps

steep flower
tall torrent
distant mural
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Fckn games these days are not well optimised at all i guess

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It really sucks

steep flower
distant mural
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And its frustrating af

tall torrent
fresh spire
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are shredders even useful anymore, i feel like it does jack all against crushers. it does like 1/10 of a crusher hp even if you stack some uncanny and it falls off too quickly. and no im not walking up to 30 rotten armor guys to apply more bleed lmao.

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it's just a decent horde clear grenade ig?

tall torrent
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and wipes shotgunner/gunner groups quickly

ashen haven
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Anyone have a good strat for completing the Adept Assassin Penance?

hollow ibex
steep flower
steep flower
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Or just use uncanny KEKW_ogryn

fresh spire
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I’m trying this in psykanium and it does like 20% of an auric crusher at most if you stack everything

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Uncanny, the 20% crit on melee, sprint buff, 15% elite damage, the works

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And around 15% CR

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And it looses stacks really quickly

steep flower
tepid otter
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what build do you all rock with Heavy Lastol

azure narwhal
tepid otter
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Which ones the good one KEKW_ogryn Mk2?

azure narwhal
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Yes

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I only force myself to use the other one cause it looks better on my krieger

burnt pelican
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It has very good unyielding damage

tepid otter
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What about the uhh, perks

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Is it Cara and Unyielding

burnt pelican
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I do flak unyielding myself u can do maniac instead

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Gun kinda struggles with specials but is great on flak

compact oracle
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laspistol is not for carapace

burnt pelican
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Like i mostly run pistol for the mobility when i have slow melee

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If u have mobility melee just go recon or infantry

tepid otter
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Hmm, aight

burnt pelican
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Lasguns r bad on car

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Except helbore

compact oracle
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helbore can do carapace but in general, dont

tepid otter
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what about dumpstat

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on lastol

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Mobility? I had one thats 60 on stopping power but i wasnt sure if thats good

burnt pelican
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Uhhh is there stability

tepid otter
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Yeah theres stability

burnt pelican
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I wouldnt advise mobility since its mostly there to be swapped to to run away

tepid otter
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Stability then, I'll roll one thats 60 on that

burnt pelican
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Check what stability does on it before u do it

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U can inspect it and hover over it

tepid otter
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Uhh, what am I looking for

burnt pelican
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Like for collateral some weapons have stagger some have more armour piercing so

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I think stability is always recoil and stuff

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If so then yeah go for it

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I think dump stat is either collateral or stability dont remember

tulip owl
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is it just me or is the yellow colored kantreal lasgun weaker than in the past? i used it again few days ago and it felt weaker than in my memory

burnt pelican
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Not on pc rn to check

dapper coyote
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Or Mk IX

tulip owl
dapper coyote
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In general heavier variants of guns tend to suck

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With very few exceptions being not sucked

burnt pelican
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Darktide on high diff is very fast paced slow guns dont fit

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Only slow gun thats good is the vigilant mark

dapper coyote
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There's very few heavier guns that actually good

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Accatran (Tan/ Heavy) Cshotguns also is somewhat good

compact oracle
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flamer, bolter, plasma are all pretty slow and extremely good weapons

tulip owl
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i mostly use the recon lasgun

burnt pelican
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Generally the blessings proc more often with faster marks

dapper coyote
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Don't use heavy reccy lasguns, they sucked as well

burnt pelican
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Plus infantry slow marks have less ammo AND use more per shot

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Actuallt crazy

dapper coyote
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Sure you can hit 2 and more targets but you basically halved your ammo count

burnt pelican
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Slow mark is i think 3 per shot and fast is 1

dapper coyote
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Yes, halved because you use 2 rounds per shot

tulip owl
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well, so far i went well with the heavy recon lasgun. but maybe its just a gun i can handle well

dapper coyote
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Typically we would use medium version (green / MK VIC)

dapper coyote
burnt pelican
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Only slow mark i use is for recon cuz it fires slower so i lose less stamina for crit buff

dapper coyote
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You can pierce through infested chaffs if im not mistaken

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We don't use MkXII because it becomes a Pseudo flamer lmao

burnt pelican
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But i mean infantry isnt known for horde clear

dapper coyote
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Infantry?

burnt pelican
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Infantry lasgun

dapper coyote
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Im talking about reccy lmao

burnt pelican
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Oh nvm

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Recon with crit build and burn blessing is temu flamethrower

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Rl funny

dapper coyote
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But yea, we don't use MkXII / light / blue is because it becomes a shitty flamer

burnt pelican
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If u want waveclear go aoe spearhead or boltgun but then again waveclear isnt vets job

dapper coyote
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MkVIc / green / medium is the ones that commonly used in high level, you can still light people on fire but still have enough dmg for target

burnt pelican
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Have u used double shotty vet btw? Idk how to feel about it

dapper coyote
tulip owl
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i usually combine the recon lasgun in tan painting with a knife and i put some talents in melee bleeding etc. is very fun to play that. maybe not most effective but fun

dapper coyote
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You can be better than Psykers in dmg with DB + WS

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Look at Avg Epic Cole's footage around the channel he's the guy for DB + WS

burnt pelican
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But ye u cab make it work def

dapper coyote
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And im climbing that ladder once i got all the curios and mastery

burnt pelican
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Its fun i run it with tag on maels

dapper coyote
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With that set

burnt pelican
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Or ws sometimes

dapper coyote
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Because WS with the reload on kill literally negates DB's weakness

burnt pelican
dapper coyote
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And turned it into a buckshot hose

burnt pelican
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If ur the only vet

dapper coyote
burnt pelican
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Everyone expects u to kill specials and ranged

dapper coyote
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And your cosmetics

burnt pelican
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Like if u run db u should let them know

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Cuz we lost havoc recently cuz of this we had nothing for ranged

dapper coyote
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Lmao

burnt pelican
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We had sniper pinged 12+ secs and screaming vet fking kill it

dapper coyote
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But yea, Epic cole and his build managed quite a few people to climb havoc 35

burnt pelican
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And he was spamming no in pings

dapper coyote
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Just smoke bro

Fr tho, smoke is fucking nice

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FUCK YOUR GUNS, YOU CANT FIRE THEM ANYMORE

burnt pelican
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Fr tho if ur unmodded smoke is bad for ur team

dapper coyote
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SMOKEBOMBS

burnt pelican
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Its bugged af in vanilla

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Removes tags removes teammate names and icons

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U get hella confused

dapper coyote
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Throw them at the enemy

burnt pelican
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Wait that works?

dapper coyote
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The gunners will be forced to drop their gun

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Except for snipers, but ping them to see them

burnt pelican
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U can smoke them?

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Lol

dapper coyote
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Yes

charred drum
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Smoke is so underrated

dapper coyote
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Smokes irl can be used and often used offensively

burnt pelican
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I mean if u throw 2 shredders everything there is dead instead

dapper coyote
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Throw them at the enemies and bum rush that guy

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That's why smoke artillery shells exists lmao

burnt pelican
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Idk i never run smoke

dapper coyote
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Try them, they basically give you Pseudo psykers bubble shield

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Except you can throw them 3 (or 4 with a perk) at the same time

burnt pelican
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I mean u throw shredders instead and everything dies

dapper coyote
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True but you can res people and cover teammates with it

burnt pelican
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Fun fact shredders are also used for revs they stagger everything

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Including car

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I was a shredder hater til i realised that

dapper coyote
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True, but the value of smokes isn't at killing, its at making sure you can kill without being killed

burnt pelican
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Plus h40 hordes are so fking dense shredders and krak are mandatory

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Shredders are lime 60% of ur dps with vet on high havoc

dapper coyote
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Like so many other games, don't sleep on smoke, they're good.

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They're a support tool not a killing tool

burnt pelican
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Not on havoc mael maybe

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Mael is good on some modifiers sure

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If u look up vet high havoc builds everything is grenade spam for a reason its most of ur dps

dapper coyote
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Try le smokes.

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Its good.

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Don't sleep on it

junior grail
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Sorry to ask here but how long until new class announcement?

dapper coyote
compact oracle
dapper coyote
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I heard that simply picking Gameslatern builds are questionable

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On random without questions ofc

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Avg epic cole stuff

compact oracle
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its on youtube so therefore it MUST be garbage

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sorry cole

red portal
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Not even 4 million rookie numbers. /s

dapper coyote
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Just you know?

Nuking the 6th and the admonition on a Tuesday with a double barrel and a shovel

red portal
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The best builds are the ones you make yourself upon understanding how to buildcraft

burnt pelican
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Builds always depend on ur team comp

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So yeah

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If u use premade ones ull have trouble

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Shotgun ws vet can work if ur team can handle specials

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And ranged

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If i got shottie vet on my team in a pub id be pissed if he didnt let us know

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I dont want to be stuck in a section for 10 mins cuz we have no ranged killer

compact oracle
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dont see it too differently from purgatus psyker

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though not as strong

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since... purgatus

burnt pelican
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Generally if ur doing off meta u should warn

compact oracle
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db is definitely not off meta

burnt pelican
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People expect certain things from ur class

red portal
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I mean combat shotgun Agripina mark does the same as most other ranged weapons will do for vet.

burnt pelican
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I mean db

red portal
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Fair

compact oracle
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the discussion was specifically about db but yes aggri is very strong

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im messing with it on psyker because funny finesse modifiers but im missing vets stuff for it

slow sky
red portal
burnt pelican
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I get the build u apply brittleness or whatnot with shovel and kill with db

slow sky
burnt pelican
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But the problem is

compact oracle
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yeah db shotgun is trash and so is shovel, i cant instant kill plague ogryn with it

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thunder hammer best weap

burnt pelican
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Ur not a horde killer leave that to zealot and psyker

compact oracle
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everyone is a horde killer

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if you dont you die

red portal
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Cole you should use the DN ainz build

burnt pelican
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Not on h40 on auric sure u can melee everything to death

compact oracle
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you should be contributing to every front

burnt pelican
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Horde density on 40 is wild

slow sky
red portal
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Deez nuts

slow sky
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I read it but idk what dn means

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Ok so what's that build

red portal
compact oracle
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vet isnt and never was the "pick off specials and gunners only" class

red portal
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Let me find the gameslantern link

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I had it up yesterday

slow sky
burnt pelican
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Bro ainz is a great guy uses what he wants and is transparent about it

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If ur transparent ur running non meta stuff idc

slow sky
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The shovel itself does good damage in its own right too, and the bleed also leaves the potential for additional reload swaps for even more shots

compact oracle
slow sky
red portal
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Lol

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Wait it's down

burnt pelican
compact oracle
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aint a bad build

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3.4m

burnt pelican
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?

slow sky
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Literally the definition of jack of all trades

burnt pelican
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I dont run it cuz mobility and dashes

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Like u said average at everything

red portal
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I have it up

burnt pelican
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But bad at none

slow sky
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It has surprisingly high mobility, only falling behind the best in that category like knife, taxe, ds, etc

burnt pelican
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Lets be real u have rapier which is good at everything bad at nothing

red portal
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Here you go Cole

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DN

slow sky
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Duelling sword can't horde clear remotely as fast
You cant force staggers with it so you cant hold ground with it

burnt pelican
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If u bring shovel and tell me ur tryharding ill think ur legit insane

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Depending on difficulty

burnt pelican
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But again higher havocs are just crusher buffets

slow sky
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I literally prefer shovel over ds in havoc, I do better with it and feel safer with it
Which should speak volumes about shovel as a weapon

burnt pelican
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Shovel is safer as a weap yeah

slow sky
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And you cant deal damage if youre dead

burnt pelican
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U cant fk up with it as bad

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Rapier if u fk up u get flattened in miliseconds

slow sky
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But besides that
People do overlook how much damage it actually does

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That video up there had like 1.4(?) Million dmg from the shovel itself
And it was in rotten armor too, so crushers literally everywhere

burnt pelican
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Btw idk why but i got a lot of trolls today

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People kept joining accepting h40 then leaving instantly

burnt pelican
dapper coyote
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What region? Asia?

burnt pelican
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Europe

dapper coyote
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Hmmm

burnt pelican
distant mural
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Ds is not good at everything

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Horde clear

burnt pelican
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Thats true

dapper coyote
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True...

turbid ibex
compact oracle
burnt pelican
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I just dont focus on hordes with vet

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But yeah ur right

distant mural
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I think some combinations with ds just leave u with no way to deal with hordes

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Wich will bite u in the ass someday

burnt pelican
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I was testing aoe spearhead today and tbh its pretty good

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Its really ew for specials tho cuz it pushes them around

distant mural
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Bolter is way too ammo hungry for hordeclear

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And aoe bolter has even less ammo

burnt pelican
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Nah i use it for shit hits the fan situations

slow sky
burnt pelican
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Its stagger is great

distant mural
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But like why combine plasma with ds?

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Double cara killer?

burnt pelican
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Buys time and can clean a horde if it has to die asap

slow sky
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Like a few shots and that horde is mist

distant mural
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And i dont wanna hog all the ammo

dapper coyote
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True lmao

burnt pelican
slow sky
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No like depending on auric vs havoc, youd be spending 3-8 shots to remove the entire horde

burnt pelican
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U can see where its dense and flatten them

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Without that its bad

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Ur wasting ammo

distant mural
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I dont struggle with poxwalkers thoKEKW_ogryn

slow sky
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Ive gotten over 100 kills from 1 mag when I was pairing it with my thammer on zealot in h40

burnt pelican
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Its not the poxwalkers xD its being able to clear the path so u dont get boxed

distant mural
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I just use spearhead to snipe

dapper coyote
slow sky
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And that was clearing space right when I heard the twins spawn which was huge

distant mural
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With exe stance

burnt pelican
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Yeah i use that too

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Its fun

burnt pelican
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Flak maniacs?

dapper coyote
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It would be so awesome if i have A SINGLE CAN OF AMMO

slow sky
distant mural
slow sky
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And its almost always 1 guy

burnt pelican
distant mural
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Unyield is nice to kill bosses

red portal
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I love it when I'm on par with the plasma user in damage and I've picked up 1/3rd of the ammo they use.

distant mural
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And u oneshot anything else anyway

burnt pelican
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Idk if magdump is viable on exec on voc u can stagget and headshot magdump reliably

distant mural
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Reapers take 2 headshots

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And the rest is oneshot except crusher and mauler

dapper coyote
burnt pelican
distant mural
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I use kraks too

burnt pelican
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Oh yeag

distant mural
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Boss gone in a secKEKW_ogryn

dapper coyote
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Which happens, because we definitely forgor

burnt pelican
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U could krak stagger and head spam too ig

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Should try it

distant mural
burnt pelican
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Good idea

distant mural
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With kraks u dont have to waste rounds on crushers

burnt pelican
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Ok important question time do u like bleed blessing

distant mural
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Cause bolter strangely kinda struggles with carapace

distant mural
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Because i aim a lot

burnt pelican
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Bleed is great on auric cuz breakpoints but idk for havoc

distant mural
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But there is better blessings then surgical

burnt pelican
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Bro surgical on speahead is 0.2 ill always take it xD

red portal
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Calvacade puncture is my go to for boss killer vet

burnt pelican
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I found out the brittleness one is legit insane for car

distant mural
distant mural
red portal
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I don't like using bolter on carapace especially now that rot armour is a modifier

burnt pelican
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For magdumping u can clap crushers with 5 shots

red portal
distant mural
#

Yeah bolter is no good vs cara imo

burnt pelican
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With brittleness without it its 8 i think

distant mural
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If it takes more then 2 shots its a waste imo

red portal
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There are better ways to deal with crushers than wasting precious bullets on them

distant mural
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One krakKEKW_ogryn

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Poof gone

burnt pelican
red portal
#

Bistol krak abuse is fun

burnt pelican
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Good times

compact oracle
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boltgun should deal 0 damage to flesh armor types but instantly kill crushers

burnt pelican
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I SEE AMMO I TAKE AMMO YESYESYES

compact oracle
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i should be hired

burnt pelican
distant mural
#

I just wish spearhead was better on havoc

burnt pelican
#

Rotten armour? Dot go brr

distant mural
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But i dont play havoc anymore anyway

red portal
#

Stonks

burnt pelican
distant mural
burnt pelican
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Im trying to get my actual rank to 40 rn

distant mural
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Just need to help 10 more people for havoc exemplar and im done with havoc

burnt pelican
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But most ppl on 40 dont play seriously and thats ok

red portal
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Eh I find auric isn't intense enough but 40 is impossible without good teamates or being incredibly good at the game and abusing the fuck out of the ai.

burnt pelican
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Exactly

distant mural
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Auric is fine for me

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I cant play enough anymore for havoc

burnt pelican
#

Auric horde density is too little

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Feelslike

distant mural
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Depends on your team imo

burnt pelican
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And some maels are annoying

distant mural
#

If your all pretty good its a walk in the park

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But if youre basically doing everything alone auric is challenging.

burnt pelican
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Basically auric in a nutshell

red portal
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If I bring ek psyker into a auric my teamates will only be cleaning up horde and straggling crushers.

distant mural
burnt pelican
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I run inflitrate tag db vet on maelstroms it makes it feel like havoc

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XDD

distant mural
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With a good team i immediatly cleared 40s bo problem and got true survivor first try

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After literally struggling forever to reach 40

burnt pelican
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Yeahh thats fair

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Havoc is only hard when ppl die

distant mural
#

Its all the team imo

red portal
#

I feel like rot armour is one of the easier modifiers if you're willing to play the most Boeing team comp known to man

burnt pelican
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Cuz fading light 2

distant mural
#

Yeah if even one person went down on a 40 its usually over anyway

burnt pelican
red portal
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Nah you can recover from 1 down but if you have more than 1 weak link it's gonna be a chain effect.

burnt pelican
#

XD

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I bonk

distant mural
#

I think it really makes a lot of difference from 4 to 3 especially when the next person goes down it gets harder and harder to save the run

burnt pelican
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Again depends on map

steep flower
livid sphinx
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hello friends

burnt pelican
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If ur hordeclean dies ur gonna struggle

red portal
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I find that I can hold my own even when we are only 2 but if the second last person dies the game is basically over.

livid sphinx
#

i love how nobody wants executioner stance in their havocs even though I think its even more useful especially if its dark

distant mural
#

Yeah i hate to solo

burnt pelican
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Even on car dot is great for getting them chipped

burnt pelican
#

I dont like those mods

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Otherwise yeah exec great on darkness

red portal
#

I basically only have numeric ui and scoreboard

burnt pelican
#

Minigame helper is essential

red portal
burnt pelican
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U do h40 without it? Crazy

stuck gorge
red portal
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Yes

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There are people who do h40 with 0 mods

surreal rune
#

i had seen cosmetic art from darktide that was definitely a skitari

steep flower
steep flower
red portal
#

Not that anyone can compete with the flamer zealot or purg psyker on that front.

burnt pelican
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Bruh its not even the auto one

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It just shows the next ones spot

red portal
#

It's still gameplay altering

burnt pelican
#

True

steep flower
#

He just stands there in the corner jerking his flamer KEKW_ogryn

burnt pelican
#

Look if demoting wasnt a thing id say ur right but no

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Fk demoting

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Playing pubs is a slot machine on its own

steep flower
steep flower
stuck gorge
#

the most gameplay altering mod I have is probably clean force blocking

steep flower
#

Don’t make a mistake of party finder
Do you know the definition of insanity?

burnt pelican
stuck gorge
red portal
#

Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results?

burnt pelican
#

I am fully aware

steep flower
red portal
#

My first real h40 clear was with party finder

burnt pelican
#

And i dont mean bad players no, actual trolls

stuck gorge
#

I managed to do h40 season one and have never touched havoc again

burnt pelican