#veteran-class

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tall torrent
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Gaming this year has been good

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Lots of games I’m looking forward to next year too

steel surge
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yea I just realized I had to kite because I was getting flooded by a mixed horde & bulwarks while the team fought a captain

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DPS seems on par with the team

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with the power sword I tend to go too deep into melee

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like a fury zealot

hybrid plover
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Power sword and shovel are two rhythm weapons on two opposite ends of a spectrum imho

restive mountain
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I can tell anytime I boot my pc up

tall torrent
restive mountain
restive mountain
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But that’s a problem for future me….

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Blocked

tall torrent
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Wat

restive mountain
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I’m fucking with you

tall torrent
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Also I don’t like this DT event

hybrid plover
dry cloak
hybrid plover
restive mountain
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I went to pioner

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Hating and loving the game

hybrid plover
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But admittedly. Gone on for long enough and they do need to figure out a better way of dealing with the collectibles

tall torrent
# hybrid plover I lik*ed* it.

Can’t believe I’m saying this but somehow 2x reserve ammo + inf ranged cleave is actually less absurd in creating bad habits than stim buffs

hybrid plover
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I usually run db vet so the ranged buffs literally do not matter to me

dry cloak
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double ammo on bolter arby or shotgun arby is fine dandy

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but it become boring

void dragon
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Shooting will always be boring, that's why it should feel impactful yet limited (aka nerf survivalist) and the ranged weapons that feel interesting are the psyker staffs that don't need ammo at all

grand perch
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i much prefer popping heads over melee gameplay

void dragon
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Good for you my reptilian good sir

tall torrent
void dragon
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My point is that clicking heads has less room to be diverse

tall torrent
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It’s the weapons that don’t click head that get boring fast

void dragon
hollow ibex
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brautos are kinda fun because they're shit ngl

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you have to work around the issues with the gun

void dragon
tall torrent
hollow ibex
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same reason why i found purg staff actually kinda interesting before they buffed it to heaven

tepid otter
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i like i see some people say it braut has some of the highest dmg and others mention its doodoo water here in the discord

hollow ibex
void dragon
void dragon
tall torrent
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Bad idk

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Could be more fun? But like

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There really isn’t that much interesting going on with full auto rapid fire inaccurate spray

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Inf autogun gets away with it because u actually want headshots

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Shredder auto gets away with it because it sucks vs flak and does very specific things like stagger/suppression/mobility

heavy rover
serene bough
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Lots of talk about cbt in vet chat lately

void dragon
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I mean, the whole idea of the can opener of the ripper is not only clunky but doesn't feel that rewarding

primal zealot
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can opener was more interesting when crushers didnt spawn in packs of 20

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now its completely useless

tame lodge
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I can actually dps check every situation the game throws at me

void dragon
uncut ore
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I for the life of me cannot do the penance to complete 10 auric missions without dying, I think my record is like

3

steel surge
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I like the MK1 shovel but it's taking some getting used to compared to the agile power sword

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I think my DPS is better and I like the simplicity

narrow widget
hollow ibex
compact oracle
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think they're talking about power falchion

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because power sword is NOT agile

tall torrent
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Falchion isn’t either

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It’s just avg mobility

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Nothing to write home about

hollow ibex
compact oracle
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its dodges feel really gross after using another weapon for a while

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still enough for most situations, but gross

primal zealot
void dragon
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Lies, they are good sidearms and boss killers in hybrid builds

steel surge
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It might also be the parties that suck ass tonight

kind spruce
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Also depends on the mark you're using

steel surge
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FML

void dragon
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Hey just need to make stabbing enemies be more cool so we can save more ammo by going full melee with them

steel surge
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I quite like the stagger on the shovel

void dragon
hollow ibex
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shovel?

kind spruce
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Achlys has the 3 quick slashes for hordes and push attack into light for singles

hollow ibex
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tbh even mk3 PS is good

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it's just not PS6 levels busted

tame lodge
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It's just slightly behind busted
But still a power sword

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Low key thinking about playing mk3

hollow ibex
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power sword is power sword

tame lodge
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But the event still going so I might just go shoot shoot bang bang

compact oracle
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since they added power falchion as mini relic blade, they should add a two hander that works like regular power sword

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much more annoying to activate than psword if at all possible

tame lodge
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That's what I'm saying

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🗣️

hollow ibex
compact oracle
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obviously it should cancel activation if you get hit

hollow ibex
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that's a key psword feature

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🙂‍↕️

compact oracle
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id also like a 2 handed chainaxe at some point that locks you in on both lights and heavies

surreal rune
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a two handed chainaxe has been long overdue, even since the beta

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there is some hope but theyre sat on it

hollow ibex
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a 2 handed axe would be welcome as well

compact oracle
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it should also not have enough stagger to stun crushers on revved headshots

compact oracle
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since dodging out of revved attacks with regular chainaxe consumes a lot of your stamina, dodging out of revved attacks with the 2 hander will consume your full stamina bar and 3/4 dodges

surreal rune
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im reminded of angron and his two handed chainaxe

compact oracle
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seriously i desperately need polearms in this game

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give us angron's chainaxe, just whole sale, ill take it

slow spade
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Yeah maybe trying to see if I can juice it with the +70% damage nodes near WS and make it like a hordeclear but cool weapon

surreal rune
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i think it was described that angron would use broad, unrevved, sweeping attacks against groups

slow spade
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Have you found the fucking rocket guy yet?

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He gear checked me so fast Sitgryn

compact oracle
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if you've got the strength for it and a sharp enough axe, why not

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he could probably just use his bare hands and still cleave

slow spade
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Been loving the M1a rifle in Duckov but hard to get in "good" condition :c

tall torrent
slow spade
slow spade
surreal rune
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but without the mobility, thus relying on slugging more

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perhaps a crowd control stat instead of mobility?

compact oracle
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more or less mobile than eviscerator

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because oh boy

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that thing is not agile

surreal rune
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probably a little less

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m

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i like the unique feature of the mk4 chainaxe where

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revs change the moveset of the heavy

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so it becomes a strikedown

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i guess in the role of weapon, it would be suited as

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a thunderhammer but a chain weapon with more horde clear orientation

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or rather, between the crusher and thunderhammer

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i may see why they havent added it

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it would hard to balance it against those things without subsequently underbaking the two handed chainaxe or having it overtake those weapons

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there is hope for it to come but i may only wonder

surreal rune
primal zealot
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give 2h chaxe but for ogryn whatthefuck_heresy

void dragon
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That would make so many zealots so mad...

ancient path
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exe bolter feels so good this patch

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also the angry orgyn experience

sullen scarab
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what works better on the tactical axe on the vet, shred or brutal momentum?

hollow ibex
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brumentum

sullen scarab
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I was trying out shred on it since I run it on my arbites, but man, arbites makes the shred work, but it really struggled on veteran when the mobs got dense lol

hollow ibex
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i really like shred but it's hard to beat brumentum

sullen scarab
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yeah lol

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I guess arbites has enough crazy stuff going for it in melee to make it work

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but veteran really needs some cleave on it

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Also for the Krak grenade, does the tinkerer damage increase help it kill mobs of crushers better?

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just in Aurics

hollow ibex
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i barely notice tinkerer on kraks

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it's niche for kraks

spark helm
sullen scarab
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Yeah makes sense lol

spark helm
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Someone in here mentioned that like last night iirc.

As a sort of "safe" barrier of entry for that outcome, I take tinkerer anyway

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(I also just love buffing grenades anyway)

tall torrent
sullen scarab
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I was in a match where nobody had any melee that could kill carapace and I was struggling so bad

spark helm
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Oof

sullen scarab
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Ok cool, free point to play with yay

spark helm
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Sometimes that just is the rub

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Main reason why diversifying a build can help

sullen scarab
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yeah it was a freaking wild match, because the director seemed to sense we only had my krak grenades and went "haha wouldn't it be funny if the only spawns were maulers and crushers" lmao

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zealot had a devil's claw and I wasn't sure what the other 2 were doing but they weren't killing crushers that's for sure lol

spark helm
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Even if you might be limiting your output against tougher enemies through a grenade, at the very least in aurics you can squeeze out enough damage through other means.

At least until the ai director decides to just whip out the entire NFL d-line collective on you and your strike team lol

sullen scarab
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yes lmao

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that's literally waht happened like

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I have never seen that many crushers and maulers before in my life

spark helm
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Yuuuup

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When it finally happens it's just like "well fuck me I guess alright"

sullen scarab
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like I was killing them with my tactical axe but it's not the fastest lol

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yeah lmao

spark helm
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"I actually happen to not be more prepared. I'm (maybe) in danger."

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:^)

sullen scarab
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I was running something like this from ainz, but since I'm on Aurics I guess I can just dip into the Weapon Specialist for 1 point

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😂

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Also man, I cannot play without volley adept on the vig autoguns

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with executioner stance, I swear even with hte 8 seconds from the Ogryn highlight node, I cut it close

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when I need to reload from the 800000000 shotgunners

spark helm
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Haven't done it in a long time.

sullen scarab
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yeah like for 1 point

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might as well pick up the keystone

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since this is more for havocs

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or I could just take powersword 6 and just ignore all mechanics

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😂

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jsut wish all my favorite weapons didn't break my fingers

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Is the "best" braced autogun still the Agripinaa nowadays?

hollow ibex
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graia's still usable

sullen scarab
swift river
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Man, I still wish the smaller power fist was a thing in this game. Let me play a Castellan dangit 😄

mystic oak
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Forgot to take off ammo regen perk while trying to do 90% accuracy penance.....

tough grotto
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Looking for advice on a recin lasgun build for vet. Any advice?

hollow ibex
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make sure to use your melee too

swift river
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Question: Power sword and Bolter build, what we lookin at?

tropic notch
swift river
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Sorry, meant Bolt Pistol

tropic notch
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Ohhh yeah that’ll work

tepid otter
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Bistol

hollow ibex
azure narwhal
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i use this tree for almost anything, it's like a goddamn swiss knife

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only difference is i take kraks now

hollow ibex
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the new one build (tm)

azure narwhal
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yup

sullen scarab
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i still can't decide what blessings to use on the power falchion. I know cranial grounding is the main one, but I can never decide between heatsink/energy leakage/wrath lol.

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also does Flak help at all on the falchion over unyielding, or nah

azure narwhal
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you'll regret not taking wrath the higher you climb in difficulty, heatsink is, alright, easy way to not care about heat management, energy leakage is a great alternative for dps

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eh i personally wouldn't drop cara + unyielding from the falchion

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monstrosities

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it's not exactly a power sword so it doesn't shred them for breakfast

tepid otter
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Hmm, is Strength > Cleave still tho

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Or it just depends

azure narwhal
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depends

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cleave is very important for higher havoc

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eviscerator's perfect strike is a shining example of what cleave can achieve

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Mk3 evisc's H1 (horizontal heavy) can sweep through maulers like butter because of it, causing major damage even through carapace hordes

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the blessing and the hit mass it ignores literally carries mk3 evisc

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on the other hand strength is pretty good pick for other weapons

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since it's not just 1 flat stat

tepid otter
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Wish Vet had 2handed weaps like that tho

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Saw someone mentioning Smaul a lot, might try it on my Vet

dapper coyote
azure narwhal
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Shock maul is okay, not exceptional so to speak

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But not like that's an issue on vet

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You cough up crit and damage by breathing

tepid otter
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Yeah, just wanna try something different

dapper coyote
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Also side note, tazer special dmgs boss pretty well

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For some reason

hollow ibex
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smaul is the definition of mid

azure narwhal
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I forgot mk names since i havent used smaul since arbites smaul happened and was totally fair and balanced in comparison

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But uh

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The one that looks like a medieval mace

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I liked

dapper coyote
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The munitorum?

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Agni is the heavier one

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Munitorum is the lighter one

azure narwhal
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Yeah mk3 munitorum that's the one

hollow ibex
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there isn't a lighter or heavier one

azure narwhal
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Idk what that means but yeah lol

dapper coyote
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Munitorum is faster but hits less dmg

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Agni is slower but has more dmg

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Well that's from my experience

hollow ibex
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the only real difference is moveset

azure narwhal
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Same as with every weapon

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Anyways

tepid otter
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What uhh, Blessings and Perks on the smaul

azure narwhal
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Muni has uppercut + horizontal lights, overhead + horizontal heavies which is why i love it

hollow ibex
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iirc it is indeed the better one

dapper coyote
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Skull crusher and high voltage is what I'd run

azure narwhal
orchid hemlock
azure narwhal
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Yeees

orchid hemlock
swift river
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Stock Cadian Shock Trooper 😄

dapper coyote
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High voltage because you pretty much electrocuted every enemy

orchid hemlock
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Sussy

dapper coyote
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With or without your tazer special

azure narwhal
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I did the same with recent krieg

swift river
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I wish the Cadian stuff would come back...

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I only ever got stuff for the Veteran

azure narwhal
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Yeah

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Darktide has the most hilarious shop system

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And the community including me can't help themselves most of the time

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It's just like DBD

atomic void
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i wanna buy the kreig one but i dont like the masks on any of the sets lmao

azure narwhal
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Krieg got shanked fairly hard here

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Many minor issues with the design but they pile up

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It's whatever though at least it's there

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Dawn of war 2's krieg dlc was amazing

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You could hear the rebreather and geiger counter going off when your team spoke

atomic void
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mama mia

azure narwhal
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Older warhammer games knew how to do warhammer in a pleasing way

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We've lost a lot

atomic void
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some good games but most were 😬

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i do have hope for the future tho

azure narwhal
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What with how 40k is progressing and how GW is right now

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The absolute state of that company

atomic void
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i dont really follow anything GW but my logic is we've had bunch of successful ones recently and if they play it right they should just follow up with good sequels and expand on what they put out

hybrid plover
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It is absolutely horrendous against unyielding enemies.

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Like shockingly bad at that particular thing.

azure narwhal
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And it is clear that that path is chosen

atomic void
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eh we got stuff like mechanicus too
i think they'll keep making more of these smaller indie strat games

hollow ibex
atomic void
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there's also that grey knights xcom like game

azure narwhal
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Daemonhunters chaos gate

gilded wraith
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Did Onslaught change?

atomic void
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gw kinda just didnt care for gaming bakc in the day and handed the liscense to everyone so gw stuff ended up with 1 billion games and most were utter garbo kek_k1

atomic void
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they'll probably be more selective now

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hoping dawn of war 4 is good

azure narwhal
atomic void
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oh yeah good point kek

azure narwhal
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Like

atomic void
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GW stick their nose in everything

azure narwhal
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No matter how new one is to 40k

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It is blatantly evident

atomic void
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pretty sure they're the reason why arbeetus isnt getting any new drip

azure narwhal
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Both how strict they are and how wrong the universe itself has gone

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Like goddamn i am yet to meet a singular (1) old 40k fan who enjoys present warhammer

atomic void
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i dont really follow lore but from what i hear people have been mad about bunch of stuff related to grey knights or something

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i'll follow recent lore when i finally commit to actually reading old lore

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i kinda just read/watch random shit

azure narwhal
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It's a lot to go through, but if you do get into 40k

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Stick to horus heresy and rogue trader era

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30k/early 40k

atomic void
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i'd wanna start from the roots tbh

azure narwhal
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Yes

atomic void
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when space marines were just roided psychos

tepid otter
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Roided? KEKW_ogryn

atomic void
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one of the videos i watched showed the early days and the marines were basically just angry big roided thug police force or something kek_k1

azure narwhal
atomic void
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also remember reading a friend ranting to me for like 30 minutes about how much he hates horus hersey and everything after

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he preferred when 40k was random satire with a loose plot/lore and a lot of mystery and no defined protags so the scale felt "big"

azure narwhal
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It's understandable

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Horus heresy itself is quite a jumbled mess

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Few read it all

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Those who do often aren't satisfied

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For good reason

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But i personally still like it up to that

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I can appreciate 40k up to horus heresy

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Everything thereafter i really don't enjoy

atomic void
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his issues weren't poor writing but the entire concept of hard focusing on marine and primarch shit over everything else

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idk the way he described it i think they did the right thing by "grounding it" and giving the setting protags

azure narwhal
atomic void
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u cant just have "Haha big galaxy with random shit" for decades

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and keep it interesting

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and novel

vestal olive
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And the investors wont let you stop making money

atomic void
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making a certain faction the poster boys gives people stories to follow

vestal olive
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This is a threat

azure narwhal
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Yep

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I miss when crimson fists were poster boys

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The boys in blue, but better chadgryn

vestal olive
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I routinely chop off a series once it becomes quite clear that "oh this is a revenue generating machine!"

atomic void
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i do wanna start listining to audio books if i cant be bothered to read

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the setting just looks like everything i want from a sci fi fantasy hybrid setting

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i just need to commit

vestal olive
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I can't stand audiobooks, i never take in a word of it

atomic void
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some are good

vestal olive
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The words dont get into the brain

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I just filter it out

atomic void
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depends on who's voicing

vestal olive
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I enjoy a good book though. My job enables me to spend a lot of my time reading

atomic void
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i havent read a full book in years

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my attention span is fried

vestal olive
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I started about a year ago. Struggled a lot at first. But I was surprised how quickly I adapted once I decided to just push through it

tepid otter
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Reading a book?

spark helm
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Sometimes it's like that

spark helm
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Speaking of reading.

vestal olive
spark helm
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Mafmadikal

mystic oak
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What's some good tips to do the Make it Count Penance (90% accuracy, no ammo)

calm shard
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shotgun

calm shard
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no ammo aura

hybrid plover
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no surv

mystic oak
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So just run double barrel and make sure I hit every shot?

hybrid plover
frigid rover
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i did it with uh, combat shotgun and exec stance + obviously no ammo on elite kill, as they mentioned

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still very forgiving but you can be a little more useful popping elites/shooters if reasonably confident with aiming in general

narrow widget
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gremlin can u do deed glitch w me

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i dont have friends :((

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@hybrid plover

hybrid plover
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i actually don't even know what that is...

narrow widget
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vt2 deed glitch...

hybrid plover
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i dont even have it installed 😭

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damn games and their inflated file sizes

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in the big 25

sullen scarab
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what do you run on the double barrel shotgun for perks and blessings nowadays, flak/maniac flechette/manstopper?

sullen scarab
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just dicking around with the ws db builds again lol

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they're so fun

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with the infinite reload

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maybe something like this with the power sword 6 and db?

austere mica
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I wouldn't take shredders on a db build

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you already have infinite cleave bleed application

sullen scarab
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oh true

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i forgor

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do you need rending strikes?

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or nah since it alreayd does like 105% against flak at close range lol

austere mica
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PS doesn't need them

sullen scarab
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yeah, i took ps so I didn't need it

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guess I'll take another 25% toughness node

hybrid plover
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u dont need precision strikes or the 10% ranged damage node

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power sword does a ton of damage regardless and double barrel also does a ton of damage and doesn't really benefit from weakspot damage that much

sullen scarab
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i just took it out of habit because in the old days you needed it for carapace headshot lol

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but true

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free 2 points for toughness 25 and ogryn damage

tropic notch
sullen scarab
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oh you're right

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i just tried it

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without 30% weakspot powersword does a 2 shot

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with skrimisher sliding around

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lol

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pa light pa dead

hybrid plover
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yea because while 30% weakspot damage does help, it's not as significant as it actually sounds and really hard hitters probably won't need it

tropic notch
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On my knife db build I run it

hybrid plover
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especially now that vet just has so much damage sauce already

hybrid plover
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i don't even run it on shovel

tropic notch
sullen scarab
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yeah I remember weakspot damage is like its own thing right

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like its own separate damage

tropic notch
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I believe it’s weapon dependent

hybrid plover
sullen scarab
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yeah

hybrid plover
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it's why you usually never want a 10% weakspot perk

sullen scarab
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I remember WAY back it was like 30 damage or something

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for most weapons

hybrid plover
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it's barely anything in practice

sullen scarab
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something tiny lol

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yeah

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how about this

hybrid plover
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and even 30% isn't that much

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but it does help for quite a bit of ranged weapons

sullen scarab
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I can never tell if I like Grenadier or not with Krak grenades

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yeah

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i just remember needing it back when ps6 needed it to just barely push over the one shot threshold for crushers

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now I have both toughness nodes

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on your toes

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and out for blood lol

dapper coyote
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Wait, weak spot bonuses are bad?

sullen scarab
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ignore the grenade, I took krak instead

dapper coyote
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Even with 90% extra dmg?

tropic notch
hybrid plover
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30% is decent

dapper coyote
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Oh for perks

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I thought for the blessings

sullen scarab
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I think it boils down to "it depends on the weapon"

tropic notch
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Yeah for mercy killer knife it’s good

sullen scarab
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but the 10% is always bad

dapper coyote
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Because i run Bistol with the weakspot bonus

hybrid plover
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but for flesh tearer knife, while it helps, it's not necessary either

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it really depends ™

sullen scarab
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like 90% of this game

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IT DEPENDS....(tm)

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also having around 250 toughness is so freaking funny

spark helm
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Darktide discord whenever nuance has a place in a conversation

hybrid plover
spark helm
hybrid plover
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2 21% health nodes is more comfy than i was expecting

sullen scarab
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yeah I remember like 200 hp is great

dapper coyote
sullen scarab
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yeah!

hybrid plover
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because a lot of vet's problems have nothing to do with toughness lol

sullen scarab
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I ran 2 hp nodes and it was amazing, I could actually not die instantly from something stupid

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but the +3 stamina curios is nice too

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thinking moment....

hybrid plover
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two 21% and one +3 stamina

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been my setup and it's been doing me just fine

sullen scarab
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that's pretty good

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let me run that

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i know you don't need like 200+ toughness

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but everytime I dip below 200 on vet i'm like

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THE NUMBERS MASON

tropic notch
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I love toughness maxxing

sullen scarab
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i know lmao

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I need to HP max on my ogryn when I get a chance

dapper plank
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is the bleed talent node new?

austere mica
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Serrated? no

obtuse finch
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the humble 0%

dapper coyote
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Imagine the dmg is fucking 0%

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My weapon be like ooooahhhhh ooooahhhhh

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Sometimes i rolled plasmas i got fucking 60% dmg with 10% min

woeful fjord
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Rub it on enemies faces

dapper coyote
dapper plank
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i don't think i ever used it.

willow prairie
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anyone have list of mods that crash after update

tepid otter
willow prairie
#

i got jumpscared by new discord notification sound bruh

tepid otter
#

Boo, happy halloween

#

Is Claw actualyl worth using, I haven't given it a spin

dapper coyote
#

But then

#

The others will fuck you up well

willow prairie
#

it was creature spawner

tepid otter
#

Should I just come back to the Shovel I wonder hmmmm

hybrid plover
#

shovel good

tepid otter
#

Yeah, just wondering what else I can muck around with in Aurics

orchid hemlock
#

Bruh this event is soo cheeks, why do I have to play PUBS again 😭

void dragon
willow prairie
void dragon
willow prairie
#

im hella washed

tepid otter
#

clean

willow prairie
#

ok it wasnt creaturespawner my ass crashing mid mission

orchid hemlock
#

this cant be real

misty minnow
#

What?

orchid hemlock
#

these are all my auric event games today

sharp epoch
#

its only auric

orchid hemlock
#

i leave pubs for 2 months

misty minnow
#

It gets that way. Usually end up carrying

#

It's a roll of the dice

orchid hemlock
#

but this cant be real

#

its every game

sharp epoch
orchid hemlock
#

just me and 3 chickens runnign around as I corral them

misty minnow
#

I have seen one psyker do some crazy shit in angry ogryn event. Had a dueling sword and fire staff. Though that was event run

orchid hemlock
#

well the good news is I am finally done

sharp epoch
#

yeah it'll have everyone but most people are bad

orchid hemlock
#

never have to play with these dumb fucks ever again

slow sky
#

where are these dumb fucks

#

i still havent had a mission that id describe as that in a long time

#

all of them are enter mission
lose consiousness
wake up at mission complete

#

nothing significant goes wrong in all of my aurics

#

the worst things that happen are i wake up the dh and everyone spams chorus voc kraks taunt and rumbler at it and i never actually get to fight it

#

or someone else wakes up the dh before im ready to fight it

autumn ferry
#

ive been getting some stinkers lately

#

had a gloriana normal ass auric that was way more difficult than it needed to be because we lost one guy and we had a bb spamming psyker that was barely helping most of the time

misty minnow
#

Lol

#

Bb spam is funny

#

Did they get downed a lot?

willow prairie
#

man did people forgor to push burster or shit

#

😭

#

this arby just mag dumped a burster

#

this isnt real

misty minnow
misty minnow
#

This is the way

#

Even funnier if they mag dumped and still take it to the face

#

Nicer if you were pushing and they mag dump

#

Like nothing I like better than getting a nice explosion in my face

dapper coyote
#

If im griefing, im shooting burster right infront of their faces

willow prairie
#

man huntsman op

thorn lark
mortal aspen
slow sky
#

what does this mean

willow prairie
#

translation: youre good

dapper coyote
# slow sky

Translation: you are equal to one the cracked players in left 4 dead 2

#

Bhop mfs just skimping the map dodging everything

willow prairie
#

also anyone know how to remove the thing on top left

slow sky
#

i bitched for a little bit about how i had like 3 games in a row with no daemonhosts

#

so i just couldnt kill them

woeful fjord
#

I don't get people who stand there, staring at the burster about to steamroll them. Move, doofus

frigid shuttle
#

and fuck fatshark for not making kf pops count

#

I need to do another 120 kills with bb + the warp charges one 🤮

dapper coyote
#

Havoc things

hybrid plover
sudden cedar
#

Can't help but question what went wrong in this mission.

tepid otter
willow prairie
mortal aspen
spark helm
dapper coyote
#

Uhhh

tepid otter
dapper coyote
timid cedar
#

hi how to deal with the duo boss in campaign 12? i tried using krak grenade seems doesn't work

silver patrol
#

what difficulty

#

you just attack them

timid cedar
#

lowest, playing with bots coz no one joined

silver patrol
#

have you tried shooting them and meleeing them

timid cedar
#

weapons and currios not yet maxed like in the build

silver patrol
#

increase the difficulty so you find real people to play with

#

i imagine nobody is wasting time on the lowest difficulty

#

you kinda need the team to split up and handle both twins

mystic jackal
#

Now.. I know it's not.. optimal. but 70/70 is fine right

silver patrol
#

sure

#

it really isn't different from the optimal

mystic jackal
#

That's 69/71 or 68/72 right?

silver patrol
#

around that yeah

spark helm
mystic jackal
#

I love gambling

spark helm
#

Welcome to the real game atp then lol

#

I gave up

#

I got something that works just fine and I've already dropped at least 5mil dockets trying to get it.

silver patrol
#

there really isn't that much difference from a 60 recharge to a 68

spark helm
#

What's the actual difference?

#

Gotta feed the other vet's hot hand

#

If that number go up, they get to spin at the casino more. :^)

silver patrol
#

it's like 0.05 seconds difference on the m1 shot

#

i didn't know the m1 shot was impacted for the longest time so i played with like 20% charge rate

spark helm
#

All we needed to hear.

#

Non-zero positive number trend.

#

Winnable.

dapper coyote
#

With full lobby ofc

mystic jackal
#

Next question, how do you use the bloody thing

dapper coyote
#

1 arbites, 1 psyker, 2 vets

unreal nova
#

But it does mean you get a leeway as long as none of the other 3 stats are lost.

dapper coyote
#

If you get good players, you probably could clean the twins with them

silver patrol
#

only with m1

#

use the special to vent if you need to

#

(it automatically vents if the weapon is overheated)

#

reload when you got 3 or 4 seconds free

sudden cedar
#

The Heat Mechanic on the Plasma Gun is similar to the Psyker Peril. It will stop you from going over 100% if you attempt to do so, however you can force it and suffer the consequences.

silver patrol
#

you cannot force it

sudden cedar
#

You can.

unreal nova
silver patrol
#

only with charged shot

#

and nobody uses charged shot

unreal nova
#

Or swapping weapons.

sudden cedar
#

My point stands, you can force it.

#

Just because "no one" supposedly does it, does not mean you can't do it.

unreal nova
#

From memory, you need to cancel after pull out, putting in and the back screw.

silver patrol
#

your point doesn't really stand when the main use of the weapon means you will never explode

sudden cedar
#

With proper and careful usage of the weapon it will most likely never happen, however, that does not suddenly deactivate it.

#

It would be like saying you can't go over 100% peril and explode because no one does it.

silver patrol
#

there is no reason to use charged shot so it will just not happen

sudden cedar
#

True enough. But that does not mean it is not a thing.

unreal nova
#

It's easier to show than tell with reload/swap animation cancels imo.

silver patrol
#

it means it's functionally not a thing

sudden cedar
#

That is not how it works.

silver patrol
#

it is exactly how it works, you were just wrong and that's ok

sudden cedar
#

Should you go over 100% heat with the Plasma Gun, you will explode.

#

There is no arguing here.

unreal nova
#

It used to be able to kill you since it was hp damage.

sudden cedar
#

True enough. But what he's doing is willfully ignoring the fact that the Plasma Gun Heat Mechanic does have this as a possibility.

unreal nova
#

Now toughness eats it.

silver patrol
#

what you are ignoring is the fact this never comes into play

sudden cedar
#

Just because you can avoid doing so, does not make it not a thing.

silver patrol
#

the game will literally avoid it for you

sudden cedar
#

I disagree because i have seen it happen.

#

Yes, the game will avoid you doing it.

#

With charged shots you can still do it.

#

So it is a thing

#

No matter how hard you try to not make it so.

silver patrol
#

it's ok, you just remembered wrong, it happens to everyone

#

no reason to make such a big deal about it

sudden cedar
#

You do you.

serene bough
#

I remember when plasma did hp damage

#

Made the weapon feel risky

#

But it was also nowhere near as powerful as now

silk solstice
#

can anyone tell me a good vet build i have dueling sword and plasma gun

grizzled pebble
#

Pick krak and call it a day

last pewter
#

what even is the dump stat for duelling swords?

sly orchid
#

Mobility per usual

last pewter
#

thought maybe there could be an argument made for Cleave but aight

#

hm right, Power Falchion, forgot that weapon even exists

serene bough
#

its not great

last pewter
#

it might be perfect for my needs actually

safe epoch
#

Boys, what is a good dump for tac axe?

tropic notch
#

Unarmored flak

#

Headtaker bm

#

Actually I believe you may get away with unarmored

#

I’ve bearly touched vet

last pewter
#

what are people's thoughts on the palchion's marks?

#

the Aridin seems better to my untrained eyes

unreal nova
serene bough
#

i use in builds with more ranged focus

toxic reef
tall torrent
junior grail
#

Palchion kinda low on melee tierlist for Vet for me

midnight wyvern
#

yeah

#

cuz its mid

midnight wyvern
#

Hi papa

steep flower
# silver patrol it's ok, you just remembered wrong, it happens to everyone

Pepega; ignoring the fact that plasma CAN in fact overheat and kill you only because everyone says to use only m1 which does not let you overheat (for some reason) is ignorance - @sudden cedar is right. Mechanically heat & peril are the same and m2 despite not said by anyone to be used is still a powerful tool that when used at the right time yields satisfying results
One of my friends who uses plasma does use m2 and it can be used to great effect - it does bring a risk of killing yourself just like it does with psyker staffs but a careful usage nulifies that

steep flower
silver patrol
#

no shit, but you didn't need to ping me twice

#

or once

midnight wyvern
frigid shuttle
midnight wyvern
midnight wyvern
frigid shuttle
#

nobody is going to click that every time

midnight wyvern
frigid shuttle
#

you get a notification for dm by default tho?

#

like that option doesn't even exist in dms

fair shale
#

I just have my auditory notifs turned off

#

Tbh I miss dms a lot

#

Cause discord hides them away now

steep flower
steep flower
compact oracle
#

exceedingly simple

#

simpler than managing plasma gun overheat

midnight wyvern
compact oracle
#

you've gotta be doing something seriously wrong to blow up with plasma

steep flower
silver burrow
compact oracle
#

just don't do that

#

its like how with psykers

#

just dont explode

#

except easier

tepid otter
#

My vet just described what a catachan coconut is and is relating it to morrow

#

lmao

steep flower
compact oracle
#

they should buff plasma, its too weak right now

steep flower
fair shale
#

Plasma would be funnier if m1s could blow you up

compact oracle
#

and change the overheat meter to be a completely random chance

steep flower
steep flower
tepid otter
compact oracle
#

it should also act like a barrel explosion so it hits your allies too

fair shale
#

Farming convos is easier sub auric ime

#

Like even damnations are a little chaotic for em

silver patrol
#

i suggest you read what you quoted first

steep flower
compact oracle
#

don't get ragebaited

steep flower
compact oracle
#

you thought i meant you?

fair shale
#

Instead of arguing why don't we all appreciate Just Cause 2?

#

I've been replaying it

#

Very fun

compact oracle
#

but i don't want to

silver patrol
steep flower
fair shale
steep flower
silver patrol
#

cool little game that is coming out soon, northerlion played the demo

silver patrol
#

what's with the snapping camera

fair shale
#

I have no idea tbh

#

Looked smoother in tenor

fair shale
silver patrol
#

oh yeah makes sense

fair shale
#

To actually get across the water

frigid shuttle
#

compared to sm2 plasma

#

the sound and impact feeling is so much better there

silver patrol
#

it's quite an underpowered plasma compared to what space marines use right?

#

well, undersized

frigid shuttle
#

Not in lore

silver patrol
#

maybe it was the bolter that's undersized

frigid shuttle
#

sisters and guard bolters are smaller than space marine ones ye

fair shale
#

Tbf all sm weapons are bigger

#

Marines are just bigger

#

The bolter is a smaller caliber for humans

#

Plasma is just plasma tho

frigid shuttle
#

commisar bolt pistol is still s4 in tabletop youknow

fair shale
#

Tbf

#

Tabletop is tabletop

#

Catachans and Marines both had S4 melee for a long time

#

Lack of granularity on the D6 and all that

frigid shuttle
#

hmm, iirc it's similar in dark heresy

fair shale
#

Ime

#

Nah

#

Marines in the FFG games were normally stat monsters

#

Who started 20-30 points ahead of their human counterparts in most combat related stats

#

Black Crusade had em be the closest

#

Deathwatch marines were like equivalent level 7 compared to other rpgs level 1 with all the boosts they got

#

GKs inside DH I think were closer to DW marines than BC marines

frigid shuttle
#

hmm, dw astartes bolt pistol is 2d10+5 vs dh normie bolt pistol 1d10+5

silver patrol
#

a whole dye

frigid shuttle
#

but plasma pistol is only 1d10+8 vs 1d10+6

fair shale
#

Aye, but the common marine has minimum 50 bs when starting

#

Normally mortals cap out at like 40

fair shale
frigid shuttle
#

plasma gun is astartes 1d10+9 vs 1d10+7

fair shale
#

I might be crazy

frigid shuttle
#

plasma has mad pen value

#

pen8 for astartes versions

#

and pen6 for dh

#

dh boltgun has only 4 pen, astartes 5 pen

fair shale
#

That might be why I'm remembering it like that

#

FFG stuff is dubiously canon

#

But plasma should be more comparable between astartes and humans than bolt weapons, I agree

frigid shuttle
#

where meltagun

surreal rune
#

in the the game files

frigid shuttle
#

techpriest class with melta gun please?

silver patrol
#

if it's admec at least we get a spear finally

fair shale
#

I'm gonna be so disappointed if the next dlc is "hive ganger class" like people say

frigid shuttle
#

"veteran, but worse"? kek

tepid otter
#

be a weird class to be sure

fair shale
#

Literally

sonic kayak
#

Combat Servitor chadgryn

frigid shuttle
#

just a few more days

sonic kayak
#

They ran out of rejects

fair shale
#

Hair under 2 weeks

#

Hair over 1

sonic kayak
#

That or Swagger

fair shale
#

Swagger, famed combatant

tepid otter
#

hmm

#

dont look the part

sonic kayak
frigid shuttle
#

swagger, with his signature duelling sword mk44

fair shale
#

Nah like

#

Seriously tho

#

"Hive ganger" is a vet backstory

tepid otter
#

So vet minus one

sonic kayak
#

It'll be vet.... erinarian

tepid otter
#

Repulsive

fair shale
#

I really want a techpriest

#

At least something unique and iconic

tepid otter
#

Wonder how it would play

fair shale
#

A priest?

tepid otter
#

Yeh

#

Just have mounted rifles on your back or something lmao

fair shale
#

I kinda envision the ability a bit like BH Saltz or Engi Bardin

#

Where you have a dedicated extra weapon of sorts

fair shale
#

Could put some goofy stuff in there

#

Rad throwers

#

Volkite

#

If you wanna be tame a melta

tepid otter
#

Servo skull auto turret

fair shale
#

Sure, why not

sonic kayak
tepid otter
#

Tbh I think it being admech is the only unique thing I can think off for a new class

#

I'll prolly be upset if it was a ganger lmao

fair shale
#

Gangers are only cool off munda

#

And tbh I only love Van Saars

tepid otter
#

Guess we'll know in a few days lmao

#

I'll prolly play Armoured Core til then, getting burned out darking my tide

fair shale
#

Which?

#

Tbh I want to emulate Last Raven

tepid otter
#

Uhh, Fires of Rubicon

fair shale
#

Enjoy it

#

Idk if you've beaten it already or not

tepid otter
#

I shall~

#

Uhm, actually my first mech game ngl

#

it was suggested to me and was like wth, why not

fair shale
#

What I'll say is is that it's not exactly like the rest of the AC games for better or worse then

#

Its still fun tho

tepid otter
#

Looks fun, prolly take my time with it til the new class comes out in winter kekw

calm shard
#

I think my first mech game was Chromehounds

fair shale
#

My first mech game was AC Last Raven

#

When I was like

#

7

#

Found in it a Kmart bargain bin for 5 dollars, called to me.

#

I can still envision that actually

tepid otter
#

had that but it was medieval sim game for me

#

If I had steam back then it would prolly be my most played game til today

fair shale
#

God I don't remember when I got sims 3 as a kid

#

I do remember the first time I saw sims we were on the bleachers in like 8th grade or something

#

My homie had it on his ds

#

He woohoo'd someone and we were like "ooooo so naughty"

#

Good times

tepid otter
#

Nostalgia is weird

fair shale
#

It is

silver burrow
#

Tech adept or Navy armsman

fair shale
#

Cause now I simply hope the people I used to be such good friends with are doing well even tho we ain't talk in like 8 years

tepid otter
#

Me when I havent met new people since I sstill hang around with the same blokes for like 10 years

dapper coyote
#

Since im not really aiming for havoc 40 Everytime i got level up, i wait a week to get my reward chest, then demote myself all the way back to lvl1

#

I wonder whats in the chest for lvl 2?

dapper coyote
#

Im keeping that

tepid panther
#

On the power falchion what's the best combos with it? It seems rather awkward to use.

tepid panther
hollow ibex
#

highest dps combos are

horde clear: LL BC
ST: PA L

#

basically with the falch anything that touches heavies

#

is shit

#

cuz go fuck yourself - fatshark prob

tepid panther
hollow ibex
#

yeah it's unfortunate when the falch's supposed to be a faster and more agile weapon

#

but heavies are dogshit cuz ???

#

lights also generate heat faster

#

it truly is a cucked weapon

tepid panther
#

It is fun though.

hollow ibex
#

yeah

tame lodge
hollow ibex
#

stares at falch unpowered damage

#

did they?

tame lodge
#

They learned how to make the heavies shit

calm shard
hollow ibex
#

mk I's just straight up higher dps

#

tho i guess if you're trying to keep the wep powered for longer II might be preferable

sullen scarab
#

I finally unlocked Auric Storm Survivor and Auric Exemplar......

#

The first match I ran with ASS equipped I ran off on my own and ate a crusher overhead dying instantly

surreal rune
#

true ASS (auric storm survivor) gameplay

autumn ferry
sullen scarab
#

Like I think the title actually takes over your brain

#

Literally the second I equipped it I lost the ability to dodge crusher overhead and died

surreal rune
#

all game knowledge going out of an ASS's (auric storm survivor) gameplay and leading them to shoot bursters whenever i try to push them

toxic reef
#

I should cosplay as an ASS player some day + that purple level stim frame that every low level player uses because it's the "rarest" frame you have at that point

stuck gorge
#

dont forget to put on at least one of the prison uniform pieces

hollow ibex
#

but i always use ASS

#

because then pubbies can't complain when i can't clutch and save their asses

#

because i'm ASS

azure narwhal
#

Hell, auric exemplar somehow seems more trustworthy than ASS. It's scary whst i've seen under that title

surreal rune
#

i must wonder how these people even survive on higher difficulties because i always see them get downed immediately

toxic reef
#

maybe auric exemplar is even funnier

#

I do always play auric

tropic halo
#

we need more titles

#

and earnable titles with stupid names

heavy rover
#

Reject gang for life

hollow ibex
#

second best title after ASS

toxic reef
#

reject is too typical for ppl cosplaying as noobs

#

you gotta aim for the slightly above ones

tropic halo
#

no title gang

quick zinc
#

Anyone have a good Hellbore build?

toxic reef
#

I like this one

#

grenade type and grenadier can be swapped around imo

#

oh and I also use the ogryn/monster exec talent instead

quick zinc
#

ty

cerulean ridge
#

uuuuhhh........ i mean it's been a hot minute since I logged in to my Veteran since the Arbites class dropped... did something change with the emotes? wtfgryn

#

changing them around fixed it... oh well

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

midnight wyvern
#

AC6 my beloved

#

im tempted to play it again just to get called studmuffin again

calm shard
#

exciting days in a random auric HISTG

kind bison
#

So, any tips on marks/blessings on combat shotty?

#

(I'm playing zealot rn but I'm sure there's a lot of crossover)

calm shard
#

Zarona is more crit reliant and has a better regular shell+boss damage

hollow ibex
#

shotguns are way better on vet

calm shard
#

Special shell is dedicated horde clear shell

kind bison
#

(I also asked in the zealot chat but they're fucking around with horror)

calm shard
#

Als othat yeah

#

Shotguns are vastly stronger on veteran

kind bison
kind bison
#

No but I'm a tank commander so I need it for the a e s t h e t i c

hollow ibex
#

lol fair enough

calm shard
#

can your bistol do this

#

anyways those last 2 clips were the uh

#

Agripinaa combat shotgun

#

Accurate, very good ammo economy

#

special shell is a very powerful slug that one shots a lot of things, and can forcibly stagger bulwarks through their shields

fair shale
#

Agri CS is so good I don't even run the Arb Shotguns on Arb anymore

hollow ibex
#

i'm only half joking

fair shale
#

But like

#

I'm only loading slugs anyway lmfao

#

If I shoot the standard buckshot it's cause I genuinely do not have the time to load a slug

hollow ibex
#

the standard buckshot is damn strong tbh

fair shale
#

Im ngl I just like slugs

#

Every game that gives me the option I'll run a slug shotty

hollow ibex
#

fair

hollow ibex
#

You can drop chink in the armor though

#

I’m not sure it even works tbh

#

Was testing in the psyk and it doesn’t seem to work

swift river
#

Man, sometimes the double barrel shotgun can be really fun...
"What's that? A closely grouped gathering of gunners and ragers? Not anymore"

toxic reef
#

slurs detected

cedar spear
#

such a misfortune that the double barrel is pretty bad

toxic reef
#

not with WS it's not

orchid hemlock
#

Who said this

cedar spear
#

i did

orchid hemlock
cedar spear
#

i think the double barrel isn't a good weapon this patch