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yea I just realized I had to kite because I was getting flooded by a mixed horde & bulwarks while the team fought a captain
DPS seems on par with the team
with the power sword I tend to go too deep into melee
like a fury zealot
Power sword and shovel are two rhythm weapons on two opposite ends of a spectrum imho
I changed my steam pfp
I should probably update my steam profile at some point aswell
Wat
I’m fucking with you
Also I don’t like this DT event
Kawaii
I liked it.
I skipped it entirely
I went to pioner
Hating and loving the game
But admittedly. Gone on for long enough and they do need to figure out a better way of dealing with the collectibles
Can’t believe I’m saying this but somehow 2x reserve ammo + inf ranged cleave is actually less absurd in creating bad habits than stim buffs
I usually run db vet so the ranged buffs literally do not matter to me
Shooting will always be boring, that's why it should feel impactful yet limited (aka nerf survivalist) and the ranged weapons that feel interesting are the psyker staffs that don't need ammo at all
thats like, your opinion man
i much prefer popping heads over melee gameplay
Indeed
Good for you my reptilian good sir

Nah shooting can be cool it just needs to feel rewarding
That feeling of reward is what's missing for some weapons, even with more ammo some stuff feels off (it's an ogryn size gun why this twinStubber feels like it's a pea-shooter?)
My point is that clicking heads has less room to be diverse
Nah clicking head is always a skill to have
It’s the weapons that don’t click head that get boring fast
So that means that Twinstubbers and Brautos are cursed not only to be bad as they currently are, but they are also designed to be boring
*Cry in sad dakka 
brautos are kinda fun because they're shit ngl
you have to work around the issues with the gun
Prob why I was using DClaw more often
There’s only so much u can do with fast firing automatic weapons that spray inaccurately
same reason why i found purg staff actually kinda interesting before they buffed it to heaven
i like i see some people say it braut has some of the highest dmg and others mention its doodoo water here in the discord
now that's just CBT
Don't worry, I use it as a decorative souvenir in my Exe LasPistol build
Can't the dakka be saved? Is it condemned to be garbo AND boring?
Boring yes
Bad idk
Could be more fun? But like
There really isn’t that much interesting going on with full auto rapid fire inaccurate spray
Inf autogun gets away with it because u actually want headshots
Shredder auto gets away with it because it sucks vs flak and does very specific things like stagger/suppression/mobility
ah yes
Cognitive Behavioural Therapy
Lots of talk about cbt in vet chat lately
Maybe there can be a day when the special can serve a better purpose than a glorified shove that you cant do while bracing the weapon? That could add something to the weapon dynamic
I mean, the whole idea of the can opener of the ripper is not only clunky but doesn't feel that rewarding
can opener was more interesting when crushers didnt spawn in packs of 20
now its completely useless
We need new blessings that enable melee ripper to be Havoc viable
I for the life of me cannot do the penance to complete 10 auric missions without dying, I think my record is like
3
I like the MK1 shovel but it's taking some getting used to compared to the agile power sword
I think my DPS is better and I like the simplicity
play castigator stance arby
your team will go down yes but you will not 
if your dps on shovel is better, there is something horribly wrong with the way you play PS...
hey it's good in a straight line
its dodges feel really gross after using another weapon for a while
still enough for most situations, but gross
lmao thats never gonna happen. the rippers all suck tbh
Lies, they are good sidearms and boss killers in hybrid builds
probably
It might also be the parties that suck ass tonight
Also depends on the mark you're using
Hey just need to make stabbing enemies be more cool so we can save more ammo by going full melee with them
I quite like the stagger on the shovel
Imo the only bad mk is 2, there is no much reason to use it over the others
shovel?
Achlys has the 3 quick slashes for hordes and push attack into light for singles
It's just slightly behind busted
But still a power sword
Low key thinking about playing mk3
power sword is power sword
But the event still going so I might just go shoot shoot bang bang
since they added power falchion as mini relic blade, they should add a two hander that works like regular power sword
much more annoying to activate than psword if at all possible
I was against the idea until we got here
obviously it should cancel activation if you get hit
id also like a 2 handed chainaxe at some point that locks you in on both lights and heavies
a two handed chainaxe has been long overdue, even since the beta
there is some hope but theyre sat on it
a 2 handed axe would be welcome as well
it should also not have enough stagger to stun crushers on revved headshots
since dodging out of revved attacks with regular chainaxe consumes a lot of your stamina, dodging out of revved attacks with the 2 hander will consume your full stamina bar and 3/4 dodges
im reminded of angron and his two handed chainaxe
seriously i desperately need polearms in this game
give us angron's chainaxe, just whole sale, ill take it
Yeah maybe trying to see if I can juice it with the +70% damage nodes near WS and make it like a hordeclear but cool weapon
i think it was described that angron would use broad, unrevved, sweeping attacks against groups
if you've got the strength for it and a sharp enough axe, why not
he could probably just use his bare hands and still cleave
Been loving the M1a rifle in Duckov but hard to get in "good" condition :c
I alrdy beat the game with all 4 endings
u can craft it
dm
Oh damn nice
Ah ok
i think it should be a mixed horde and bossing powerhouse like the normal chainaxe
but without the mobility, thus relying on slugging more
perhaps a crowd control stat instead of mobility?
probably a little less
m
i like the unique feature of the mk4 chainaxe where
revs change the moveset of the heavy
so it becomes a strikedown
i guess in the role of weapon, it would be suited as
a thunderhammer but a chain weapon with more horde clear orientation
or rather, between the crusher and thunderhammer
i may see why they havent added it
it would hard to balance it against those things without subsequently underbaking the two handed chainaxe or having it overtake those weapons
there is hope for it to come but i may only wonder
give 2h chaxe but for ogryn 
what works better on the tactical axe on the vet, shred or brutal momentum?
brumentum

I was trying out shred on it since I run it on my arbites, but man, arbites makes the shred work, but it really struggled on veteran when the mobs got dense lol
i really like shred but it's hard to beat brumentum
yeah lol
I guess arbites has enough crazy stuff going for it in melee to make it work
but veteran really needs some cleave on it
Also for the Krak grenade, does the tinkerer damage increase help it kill mobs of crushers better?
just in Aurics
It can though I'm sure there might be other ways to just juice those nades passively through other damage boosting talents like skirmisher.
Yeah makes sense lol
Someone in here mentioned that like last night iirc.
As a sort of "safe" barrier of entry for that outcome, I take tinkerer anyway
(I also just love buffing grenades anyway)
crusher in havoc yes (it's a very dumb point tax)
otherwise no u don't have to use it
I was in a match where nobody had any melee that could kill carapace and I was struggling so bad
Oof
Ok cool, free point to play with yay
yeah it was a freaking wild match, because the director seemed to sense we only had my krak grenades and went "haha wouldn't it be funny if the only spawns were maulers and crushers" lmao
zealot had a devil's claw and I wasn't sure what the other 2 were doing but they weren't killing crushers that's for sure lol
Even if you might be limiting your output against tougher enemies through a grenade, at the very least in aurics you can squeeze out enough damage through other means.
At least until the ai director decides to just whip out the entire NFL d-line collective on you and your strike team lol
yes lmao
that's literally waht happened like
I have never seen that many crushers and maulers before in my life
like I was killing them with my tactical axe but it's not the fastest lol
yeah lmao
I was running something like this from ainz, but since I'm on Aurics I guess I can just dip into the Weapon Specialist for 1 point
😂
Also man, I cannot play without volley adept on the vig autoguns
with executioner stance, I swear even with hte 8 seconds from the Ogryn highlight node, I cut it close
when I need to reload from the 800000000 shotgunners
Yeah...I can see where this build can still do stuff. I personally just like always taking a keystone at bare minimum on vet.
Idk if keystoneless has the same teeth. Probably? Idk.
Haven't done it in a long time.
yeah like for 1 point
might as well pick up the keystone
since this is more for havocs
or I could just take powersword 6 and just ignore all mechanics
😂
jsut wish all my favorite weapons didn't break my fingers
Is the "best" braced autogun still the Agripinaa nowadays?
overall yeah
graia's still usable

Man, I still wish the smaller power fist was a thing in this game. Let me play a Castellan dangit 😄
Forgot to take off ammo regen perk while trying to do 90% accuracy penance.....
Looking for advice on a recin lasgun build for vet. Any advice?
make sure to use your melee too
Question: Power sword and Bolter build, what we lookin at?
It’ll work but imo I’d use something other than bolter
Sorry, meant Bolt Pistol
Ohhh yeah that’ll work
Bistol
weapon specialist
you got a 1:1 build with me lmao
i use this tree for almost anything, it's like a goddamn swiss knife
only difference is i take kraks now
the new one build (tm)
yup
i still can't decide what blessings to use on the power falchion. I know cranial grounding is the main one, but I can never decide between heatsink/energy leakage/wrath lol.
also does Flak help at all on the falchion over unyielding, or nah
you'll regret not taking wrath the higher you climb in difficulty, heatsink is, alright, easy way to not care about heat management, energy leakage is a great alternative for dps
eh i personally wouldn't drop cara + unyielding from the falchion
monstrosities
it's not exactly a power sword so it doesn't shred them for breakfast
depends
cleave is very important for higher havoc
eviscerator's perfect strike is a shining example of what cleave can achieve
Mk3 evisc's H1 (horizontal heavy) can sweep through maulers like butter because of it, causing major damage even through carapace hordes
the blessing and the hit mass it ignores literally carries mk3 evisc
on the other hand strength is pretty good pick for other weapons
since it's not just 1 flat stat
Wish Vet had 2handed weaps like that tho
Saw someone mentioning Smaul a lot, might try it on my Vet
Smaul is meh (very all rounded), it a general weapon with good AP, good Dmg, good swing speed and cleave with tazer as a crutch against big targets
Shock maul is okay, not exceptional so to speak
But not like that's an issue on vet
You cough up crit and damage by breathing
Yeah, just wanna try something different
smaul is the definition of mid
For sure
I forgot mk names since i havent used smaul since arbites smaul happened and was totally fair and balanced in comparison
But uh
The one that looks like a medieval mace
I liked
Yeah mk3 munitorum that's the one
there isn't a lighter or heavier one
Idk what that means but yeah lol
Munitorum is faster but hits less dmg
Agni is slower but has more dmg
Well that's from my experience
the only real difference is moveset
What uhh, Blessings and Perks on the smaul
Muni has uppercut + horizontal lights, overhead + horizontal heavies which is why i love it
iirc it is indeed the better one
Skull crusher and high voltage is what I'd run
High voltage + skull crusher
Carapace + Unyielding is my usual go to
Yes
Yeees
Stock Cadian Shock Trooper 😄
High voltage because you pretty much electrocuted every enemy
Sussy
With or without your tazer special
Looking good. I salute your money turned into fatshark dinner
I did the same with recent krieg
Yeah
Darktide has the most hilarious shop system
And the community including me can't help themselves most of the time
It's just like DBD
i wanna buy the kreig one but i dont like the masks on any of the sets lmao
Krieg got shanked fairly hard here
Many minor issues with the design but they pile up
It's whatever though at least it's there
Dawn of war 2's krieg dlc was amazing
You could hear the rebreather and geiger counter going off when your team spoke
mama mia
I am actively being pushed away not to tbh
What with how 40k is progressing and how GW is right now
The absolute state of that company
i dont really follow anything GW but my logic is we've had bunch of successful ones recently and if they play it right they should just follow up with good sequels and expand on what they put out
You're neglecting a very key negative about it.
It is absolutely horrendous against unyielding enemies.
Like shockingly bad at that particular thing.
This will tend to a very casual mainstream yes, but that is how a fun niche dies
And it is clear that that path is chosen
eh we got stuff like mechanicus too
i think they'll keep making more of these smaller indie strat games
it's shocking 
there's also that grey knights xcom like game
Daemonhunters chaos gate
Did Onslaught change?
gw kinda just didnt care for gaming bakc in the day and handed the liscense to everyone so gw stuff ended up with 1 billion games and most were utter garbo 
It is lmao
Yeah but due to this they had soul and were untouched by corpo greed or strict rules. And games which struck struck hard. Notice how in relation, old games have faaar more dedicated fans very knowledgable about what fantasy they're interacting with
oh yeah good point 
Like
GW stick their nose in everything
pretty sure they're the reason why arbeetus isnt getting any new drip
Both how strict they are and how wrong the universe itself has gone
Like goddamn i am yet to meet a singular (1) old 40k fan who enjoys present warhammer
i dont really follow lore but from what i hear people have been mad about bunch of stuff related to grey knights or something
i'll follow recent lore when i finally commit to actually reading old lore
i kinda just read/watch random shit
It's a lot to go through, but if you do get into 40k
Stick to horus heresy and rogue trader era
30k/early 40k
i'd wanna start from the roots tbh
Yes
when space marines were just roided psychos
Roided? 
one of the videos i watched showed the early days and the marines were basically just angry big roided thug police force or something 
also remember reading a friend ranting to me for like 30 minutes about how much he hates horus hersey and everything after
he preferred when 40k was random satire with a loose plot/lore and a lot of mystery and no defined protags so the scale felt "big"
It's understandable
Horus heresy itself is quite a jumbled mess
Few read it all
Those who do often aren't satisfied
For good reason
But i personally still like it up to that
I can appreciate 40k up to horus heresy
Everything thereafter i really don't enjoy
his issues weren't poor writing but the entire concept of hard focusing on marine and primarch shit over everything else
idk the way he described it i think they did the right thing by "grounding it" and giving the setting protags
u cant just have "Haha big galaxy with random shit" for decades
and keep it interesting
and novel
And the investors wont let you stop making money
making a certain faction the poster boys gives people stories to follow
This is a threat
I routinely chop off a series once it becomes quite clear that "oh this is a revenue generating machine!"
i do wanna start listining to audio books if i cant be bothered to read
the setting just looks like everything i want from a sci fi fantasy hybrid setting
i just need to commit
I can't stand audiobooks, i never take in a word of it
some are good
depends on who's voicing
I enjoy a good book though. My job enables me to spend a lot of my time reading
I started about a year ago. Struggled a lot at first. But I was surprised how quickly I adapted once I decided to just push through it
Reading a book?
Sometimes it's like that
What's this pfp btw?
Speaking of reading.
Henri Lebesgue, mathematician
Mafmadikal
What's some good tips to do the Make it Count Penance (90% accuracy, no ammo)
shotgun
double barrel
no ammo aura
no surv
So just run double barrel and make sure I hit every shot?
Pretty much.
i did it with uh, combat shotgun and exec stance + obviously no ammo on elite kill, as they mentioned
still very forgiving but you can be a little more useful popping elites/shooters if reasonably confident with aiming in general
erm
i actually don't even know what that is...
vt2 deed glitch...
i dont even have it installed 😭
damn games and their inflated file sizes
in the big 25
what do you run on the double barrel shotgun for perks and blessings nowadays, flak/maniac flechette/manstopper?
yes

just dicking around with the ws db builds again lol
they're so fun
with the infinite reload
maybe something like this with the power sword 6 and db?
I wouldn't take shredders on a db build
you already have infinite cleave bleed application
oh true
i forgor
do you need rending strikes?
or nah since it alreayd does like 105% against flak at close range lol
PS doesn't need them
possibly a hot take
u dont need precision strikes or the 10% ranged damage node
power sword does a ton of damage regardless and double barrel also does a ton of damage and doesn't really benefit from weakspot damage that much
i just took it out of habit because in the old days you needed it for carapace headshot lol
but true
free 2 points for toughness 25 and ogryn damage
Very good
oh you're right
i just tried it
without 30% weakspot powersword does a 2 shot
with skrimisher sliding around
lol
pa light pa dead
yea because while 30% weakspot damage does help, it's not as significant as it actually sounds and really hard hitters probably won't need it
On my knife db build I run it
especially now that vet just has so much damage sauce already
I’ve thought about dropping it
yeah I remember weakspot damage is like its own thing right
like its own separate damage
I believe it’s weapon dependent
weakspot damage doesn't actually multiply the damage on weakspot, but rather the bonus that hitting the weakspot will give you
yeah
it's why you usually never want a 10% weakspot perk
it's barely anything in practice
I can never tell if I like Grenadier or not with Krak grenades
yeah
i just remember needing it back when ps6 needed it to just barely push over the one shot threshold for crushers
now I have both toughness nodes
on your toes
and out for blood lol
Wait, weak spot bonuses are bad?
ignore the grenade, I took krak instead
Even with 90% extra dmg?
Not entirely but on weapon perks yeah
I think it boils down to "it depends on the weapon"
Yeah for mercy killer knife it’s good
but the 10% is always bad
Because i run Bistol with the weakspot bonus
but for flesh tearer knife, while it helps, it's not necessary either
it really depends ™
like 90% of this game
IT DEPENDS....(tm)
also having around 250 toughness is so freaking funny
Darktide discord whenever nuance has a place in a conversation
i use both toughness nodes to healthmax if i'll be honest
2 21% health nodes is more comfy than i was expecting
yeah I remember like 200 hp is great
Mood
yeah!
because a lot of vet's problems have nothing to do with toughness lol
I ran 2 hp nodes and it was amazing, I could actually not die instantly from something stupid
but the +3 stamina curios is nice too
thinking moment....
that's pretty good
let me run that
i know you don't need like 200+ toughness
but everytime I dip below 200 on vet i'm like
THE NUMBERS MASON
I love toughness maxxing
is the bleed talent node new?
Serrated? no
the humble 0%
Imagine the dmg is fucking 0%
My weapon be like ooooahhhhh ooooahhhhh
Sometimes i rolled plasmas i got fucking 60% dmg with 10% min
It's just a pool noodle
Rub it on enemies faces
Its not even pool noodle, its fucking plastic bag filled with air
was it always the same as now as well? was it on the top right of the tree previously?
i don't think i ever used it.
anyone have list of mods that crash after update
Its kinda like all of them imo 
i got jumpscared by new discord notification sound bruh
Its ass, sure you'll clear chaffs easily
But then
The others will fuck you up well
it was creature spawner
shovel good
Yeah, just wondering what else I can muck around with in Aurics
Bruh this event is soo cheeks, why do I have to play PUBS again 😭
Embrace the shovel, for it will embrace you in the trenches
tale old as time
im hella washed
clean
ok it wasnt creaturespawner my ass crashing mid mission
this cant be real
What?
these are all my auric event games today
its only auric
brother is this the standard now? 😭
i leave pubs for 2 months
i think all the good players just play malestroms or havocs
just me and 3 chickens runnign around as I corral them
I have seen one psyker do some crazy shit in angry ogryn event. Had a dueling sword and fire staff. Though that was event run
but this is the event, they have to play it
well the good news is I am finally done
yeah it'll have everyone but most people are bad
never have to play with these dumb fucks ever again
where are these dumb fucks
i still havent had a mission that id describe as that in a long time
all of them are enter mission
lose consiousness
wake up at mission complete
nothing significant goes wrong in all of my aurics
the worst things that happen are i wake up the dh and everyone spams chorus voc kraks taunt and rumbler at it and i never actually get to fight it
or someone else wakes up the dh before im ready to fight it
Wasn't me
ive been getting some stinkers lately
had a gloriana normal ass auric that was way more difficult than it needed to be because we lost one guy and we had a bb spamming psyker that was barely helping most of the time
man did people forgor to push burster or shit
😭
this arby just mag dumped a burster
this isnt real
You got to take one to the face it's how it's done
Even better grab everyone ammo and give it to the burster
This is the way
Even funnier if they mag dumped and still take it to the face
Nicer if you were pushing and they mag dump
Like nothing I like better than getting a nice explosion in my face
If im griefing, im shooting burster right infront of their faces
man huntsman op
Bro, when 10 crushers spawn and nobody except you is equipped to deal with it... It's 1 run every 3 rn for me
real
translation: youre good
Translation: you are equal to one the cracked players in left 4 dead 2
Bhop mfs just skimping the map dodging everything
i bitched for a little bit about how i had like 3 games in a row with no daemonhosts
so i just couldnt kill them
I don't get people who stand there, staring at the burster about to steamroll them. Move, doofus
fuck challenges
and fuck fatshark for not making kf pops count
I need to do another 120 kills with bb + the warp charges one 🤮
Havoc things
unc
Can't help but question what went wrong in this mission.
And you won right
schizophrenia
toggle off versus rank in the settings
The actual killers in vs on survivor teams if their aim is good.
Every bill with a hunting rifle must be assumed to be a shooter shooter.


hi how to deal with the duo boss in campaign 12? i tried using krak grenade seems doesn't work
lowest, playing with bots coz no one joined
have you tried shooting them and meleeing them
yeah, i'm currently running this build
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fadca00-9fc4-420b-a3a8-4bead2dd7088/sharpest-shovel
weapons and currios not yet maxed like in the build
increase the difficulty so you find real people to play with
i imagine nobody is wasting time on the lowest difficulty
you kinda need the team to split up and handle both twins
Now.. I know it's not.. optimal. but 70/70 is fine right
That's 69/71 or 68/72 right?
around that yeah
Test out how shots you get ig if you're that worried about it. Rolling for the current optimal rolls for plasma gun is a real casino experience. Good luck chasing them dockets if that's how you want to go about it.
I love gambling
Welcome to the real game atp then lol
I gave up
I got something that works just fine and I've already dropped at least 5mil dockets trying to get it.
there really isn't that much difference from a 60 recharge to a 68
What's the actual difference?
Gotta feed the other vet's hot hand
If that number go up, they get to spin at the casino more. :^)
it's like 0.05 seconds difference on the m1 shot
i didn't know the m1 shot was impacted for the longest time so i played with like 20% charge rate
Here's odd things about difficulties in this game,
The higher the difficulty you put the better skilled players you'll get,
I finished the twins whilest lvl 28 on heresy
With full lobby ofc
Next question, how do you use the bloody thing
1 arbites, 1 psyker, 2 vets
It is. The important part is 68-69 Thermal. Cos any more is a waste.
But it does mean you get a leeway as long as none of the other 3 stats are lost.
If you get good players, you probably could clean the twins with them
aim, shoot
only with m1
use the special to vent if you need to
(it automatically vents if the weapon is overheated)
reload when you got 3 or 4 seconds free
The Heat Mechanic on the Plasma Gun is similar to the Psyker Peril. It will stop you from going over 100% if you attempt to do so, however you can force it and suffer the consequences.
you cannot force it
You can.
Always factor the delay when aiming. You can also reload cancel by sprinting at certain points.
Or swapping weapons.
My point stands, you can force it.
Just because "no one" supposedly does it, does not mean you can't do it.
From memory, you need to cancel after pull out, putting in and the back screw.
your point doesn't really stand when the main use of the weapon means you will never explode
With proper and careful usage of the weapon it will most likely never happen, however, that does not suddenly deactivate it.
It would be like saying you can't go over 100% peril and explode because no one does it.
there is no reason to use charged shot so it will just not happen
True enough. But that does not mean it is not a thing.
It's easier to show than tell with reload/swap animation cancels imo.
it means it's functionally not a thing
That is not how it works.
it is exactly how it works, you were just wrong and that's ok
Should you go over 100% heat with the Plasma Gun, you will explode.
There is no arguing here.
M1 just forces a vent tick.
It used to be able to kill you since it was hp damage.
True enough. But what he's doing is willfully ignoring the fact that the Plasma Gun Heat Mechanic does have this as a possibility.
Now toughness eats it.
what you are ignoring is the fact this never comes into play
Just because you can avoid doing so, does not make it not a thing.
the game will literally avoid it for you
I disagree because i have seen it happen.
Yes, the game will avoid you doing it.
With charged shots you can still do it.
So it is a thing
No matter how hard you try to not make it so.
it's ok, you just remembered wrong, it happens to everyone
no reason to make such a big deal about it
You do you.
I remember when plasma did hp damage
Made the weapon feel risky
But it was also nowhere near as powerful as now
can anyone tell me a good vet build i have dueling sword and plasma gun
Pick krak and call it a day
what even is the dump stat for duelling swords?
Mobility per usual
thought maybe there could be an argument made for Cleave but aight
hm right, Power Falchion, forgot that weapon even exists
its not great
it might be perfect for my needs actually
Boys, what is a good dump for tac axe?
Moblity
Unarmored flak
Headtaker bm
Actually I believe you may get away with unarmored
I’ve bearly touched vet
what are people's thoughts on the palchion's marks?
the Aridin seems better to my untrained eyes
There is, if you mk4 only. Mk2 dumps mobility, mk5 dumps defence or pen if you want hilarious dodges.
Mk1 is better
i use in builds with more ranged focus
I think I'm usually cleave tbh, just gotten used to it from advice long ago
mk1 is better
Palchion kinda low on melee tierlist for Vet for me
Hi papa
Pepega; ignoring the fact that plasma CAN in fact overheat and kill you only because everyone says to use only m1 which does not let you overheat (for some reason) is ignorance - @sudden cedar is right. Mechanically heat & peril are the same and m2 despite not said by anyone to be used is still a powerful tool that when used at the right time yields satisfying results
One of my friends who uses plasma does use m2 and it can be used to great effect - it does bring a risk of killing yourself just like it does with psyker staffs but a careful usage nulifies that
Correction; only if you try to shoot with primary fire (m1); using secondary fire (charged, m2) will kill you
why?
blame discord for not having an option to default to notification replies off
why not?
pretty sure its also off by default in DMs and or on phone
nobody is going to click that every time

you get a notification for dm by default tho?
like that option doesn't even exist in dms
I just have my auditory notifs turned off
Tbh I miss dms a lot
Cause discord hides them away now
Nobody likes being called out but thats ok you were just wrong 
And being wrong is a first step to being correct 
As long as you don’t stay ignorant 
Don’t be upset 
He upset i believe; nobody likes being called out
I want just wording to say words so I could reply ping him

WoW 
you've gotta be doing something seriously wrong to blow up with plasma
Using and/or releasing a shot with m2 at 100%
I just don’t get any feeling of oomph from the plasma gun though. It feels like throwing water. An auto gun doesn’t do much damage but it feels much more satisfying IMO and that for me is what the game is all about
Valid; prefences exist
I’m not a fan of plasma myself
they should buff plasma, its too weak right now
I never heard the full convo cause it always gets cut out 
Plasma would be funnier if m1s could blow you up
and change the overheat meter to be a completely random chance
It would be much better
No pls no tabletop rules
Do wish they were more better timed
it should also act like a barrel explosion so it hits your allies too
Farming convos is easier sub auric ime
Like even damnations are a little chaotic for em
how is this a call out, you didn't even read right
i suggest you read what you quoted first
Deflecting is also a choice
don't get ragebaited
Nah i’m ok
Hes not tho (i’m not ragebaiting btw
)
you thought i meant you?
Instead of arguing why don't we all appreciate Just Cause 2?
I've been replaying it
Very fun
but i don't want to
because you should appreciate Q-Up instead
Can mean both
No idea what that is tbh
I forgor what was the gameplay
(never played it btw)
cool little game that is coming out soon, northerlion played the demo
Its really simply tbh
Sandbox with grappling hook and parachute
You blow stuff up
Get money for it
what's with the snapping camera
Oh, I imagine its cause hes looking down to hook for momentum tbh
oh yeah makes sense
To actually get across the water
plasma in this game is so mid
compared to sm2 plasma
the sound and impact feeling is so much better there
it's quite an underpowered plasma compared to what space marines use right?
well, undersized
Not in lore
maybe it was the bolter that's undersized
sisters and guard bolters are smaller than space marine ones ye
Tbf all sm weapons are bigger
Marines are just bigger
The bolter is a smaller caliber for humans
Plasma is just plasma tho
commisar bolt pistol is still s4 in tabletop 
Tbf
Tabletop is tabletop
Catachans and Marines both had S4 melee for a long time
Lack of granularity on the D6 and all that
hmm, iirc it's similar in dark heresy
Ime
Nah
Marines in the FFG games were normally stat monsters
Who started 20-30 points ahead of their human counterparts in most combat related stats
Black Crusade had em be the closest
Deathwatch marines were like equivalent level 7 compared to other rpgs level 1 with all the boosts they got
GKs inside DH I think were closer to DW marines than BC marines
hmm, dw astartes bolt pistol is 2d10+5 vs dh normie bolt pistol 1d10+5
a whole dye
but plasma pistol is only 1d10+8 vs 1d10+6
Aye, but the common marine has minimum 50 bs when starting
Normally mortals cap out at like 40
I remember it being way better tbh
plasma gun is astartes 1d10+9 vs 1d10+7
I might be crazy
plasma has mad pen value
pen8 for astartes versions
and pen6 for dh
dh boltgun has only 4 pen, astartes 5 pen
That might be why I'm remembering it like that
FFG stuff is dubiously canon
But plasma should be more comparable between astartes and humans than bolt weapons, I agree
where meltagun
in the the game files
if it's admec at least we get a spear finally
Tbh I'm doubting we're getting a techie
I'm gonna be so disappointed if the next dlc is "hive ganger class" like people say
"veteran, but worse"? 
be a weird class to be sure
Literally
Combat Servitor 
just a few more days
They ran out of rejects
Swagger, famed combatant
Absolute Card Shark too
swagger, with his signature duelling sword mk44
So vet minus one
It'll be vet.... erinarian
Repulsive
Wonder how it would play
A priest?
I kinda envision the ability a bit like BH Saltz or Engi Bardin
Where you have a dedicated extra weapon of sorts
Literally yeah
Could put some goofy stuff in there
Rad throwers
Volkite
If you wanna be tame a melta
Servo skull auto turret
Sure, why not
Yes, it is me
Tbh I think it being admech is the only unique thing I can think off for a new class
I'll prolly be upset if it was a ganger lmao
Guess we'll know in a few days lmao
I'll prolly play Armoured Core til then, getting burned out darking my tide
Uhh, Fires of Rubicon
I shall~
Uhm, actually my first mech game ngl
it was suggested to me and was like wth, why not
What I'll say is is that it's not exactly like the rest of the AC games for better or worse then
Its still fun tho
Looks fun, prolly take my time with it til the new class comes out in winter kekw
I think my first mech game was Chromehounds
My first mech game was AC Last Raven
When I was like
7
Found in it a Kmart bargain bin for 5 dollars, called to me.
I can still envision that actually
had that but it was medieval sim game for me
If I had steam back then it would prolly be my most played game til today
God I don't remember when I got sims 3 as a kid
I do remember the first time I saw sims we were on the bleachers in like 8th grade or something
My homie had it on his ds
He woohoo'd someone and we were like "ooooo so naughty"
Good times
Nostalgia is weird
It is
Tech adept or Navy armsman
Cause now I simply hope the people I used to be such good friends with are doing well even tho we ain't talk in like 8 years
Me when I havent met new people since I sstill hang around with the same blokes for like 10 years
Quality over quantity

Since im not really aiming for havoc 40 Everytime i got level up, i wait a week to get my reward chest, then demote myself all the way back to lvl1
I wonder whats in the chest for lvl 2?
On the power falchion what's the best combos with it? It seems rather awkward to use.
on which marks
MK1
highest dps combos are
horde clear: LL BC
ST: PA L
basically with the falch anything that touches heavies
is shit
cuz go fuck yourself - fatshark prob
Yeah, that checks out. Trying to use the heavies felt awkward and cumbersome, thank you.
yeah it's unfortunate when the falch's supposed to be a faster and more agile weapon
but heavies are dogshit cuz ???
lights also generate heat faster
it truly is a cucked weapon
It is fun though.
yeah
At least Fatshark learned something with Power Sword

IIb's heavies are good just hard to aim
they also have the issue being slow as fuck tho
mk I's just straight up higher dps
tho i guess if you're trying to keep the wep powered for longer II might be preferable
I finally unlocked Auric Storm Survivor and Auric Exemplar......

The first match I ran with ASS equipped I ran off on my own and ate a crusher overhead dying instantly
true ASS (auric storm survivor) gameplay
every time i see an ASS this is exactly what i expect from them
cant wait until i get it so i can live up to my own expectations 
Like I think the title actually takes over your brain
Literally the second I equipped it I lost the ability to dodge crusher overhead and died

all game knowledge going out of an ASS's (auric storm survivor) gameplay and leading them to shoot bursters whenever i try to push them
I should cosplay as an ASS player some day + that purple level stim frame that every low level player uses because it's the "rarest" frame you have at that point
dont forget to put on at least one of the prison uniform pieces
yeah i have "better" titles
but i always use ASS
because then pubbies can't complain when i can't clutch and save their asses
because i'm ASS
Hell, auric exemplar somehow seems more trustworthy than ASS. It's scary whst i've seen under that title
i must wonder how these people even survive on higher difficulties because i always see them get downed immediately
Reject gang for life
second best title after ASS
reject is too typical for ppl cosplaying as noobs
you gotta aim for the slightly above ones
no title gang
Anyone have a good Hellbore build?
I like this one
grenade type and grenadier can be swapped around imo
oh and I also use the ogryn/monster exec talent instead
ty
uuuuhhh........ i mean it's been a hot minute since I logged in to my Veteran since the Arbites class dropped... did something change with the emotes? 
changing them around fixed it... oh well
¯_(ツ)_/¯
AC6 my beloved
im tempted to play it again just to get called studmuffin again
So, any tips on marks/blessings on combat shotty?
(I'm playing zealot rn but I'm sure there's a lot of crossover)
Zarona/Agripinaa variants are the good ones
Zarona is more crit reliant and has a better regular shell+boss damage
shotguns are way better on vet
Special shell is dedicated horde clear shell
(I also asked in the zealot chat but they're fucking around with horror)
Sure, but my vet is not a shotgun user because I like bistol on it
bet your bistol can't do this
No but I'm a tank commander so I need it for the a e s t h e t i c
lol fair enough
can your bistol do this
anyways those last 2 clips were the uh
Agripinaa combat shotgun
Accurate, very good ammo economy
special shell is a very powerful slug that one shots a lot of things, and can forcibly stagger bulwarks through their shields
One day they'll let me load more than 1 slug at a time
Agri CS is so good I don't even run the Arb Shotguns on Arb anymore
would break the game
i'm only half joking
I know it would
But like
I'm only loading slugs anyway lmfao
If I shoot the standard buckshot it's cause I genuinely do not have the time to load a slug
the standard buckshot is damn strong tbh
fair
whats the build
You can drop chink in the armor though
I’m not sure it even works tbh
Was testing in the psyk and it doesn’t seem to work
Man, sometimes the double barrel shotgun can be really fun...
"What's that? A closely grouped gathering of gunners and ragers? Not anymore"
slurs detected
such a misfortune that the double barrel is pretty bad
not with WS it's not
Huh? 💀
Who said this
i did
i think the double barrel isn't a good weapon this patch


