veteran-class

[slow sky]

directly as a weapon

thats insane

[maiden wasp]

yeah, but after veteran became zealot with gun it's absolutely nuts

[slow sky]

its never been buffed, only toned back and its still this strong

[red robin]

ngl, i wish they made attack speed apply to the animation speed of weapon special activations

[unreal nova]

Are you saying I can MudaMudaMuda with knoife now?

[fair shale]

Ye olde 7 swing power cycler

[red robin]

https://tenor.com/view/star-platinum-gif-18007374

[slow sky]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gif-26478665

[maiden wasp]

anyone know off the top of their head the numbers on activated ps?

[narrow frost]

high

[maiden wasp]

can you 2 shot crusher again?

[slow sky]

there are a lot of numbers and variations of numbers

[fair shale]

OGOG power sword on of the stupidest things this game has ever seen

[maiden wasp]

i've seen vets just vaporize entire hoards in 2 swings but can't remember if they hit the 2shot bp on powered push follow again or not

[red robin]

so bromentum or sunder are the picks for 2nd blessing on power sword right?

[serene bough]

Yes

I run sunder

[maiden wasp]

what u smokin

[red robin]

i kinda like the 75% hit mass reduction and avoid catching on carapace nice on sunder

[unreal nova]

Bromenrum better on aurics snd below, Sunder for havocs from memory.

[orchid hemlock]

100%

[crisp oak]

is og shovel skuulcrusher uncanby, or decimator uncanny?

[serene bough]

Uncanny and decimator if you want to maximize your damage, or skullcrusher for your team

[slow sky]

decimator uncanny is going to be more generally applicable

[crisp oak]

is it still light spam into groaner hordes?

[slow sky]

no??

[crisp oak]

heavies into thicker ones

[narrow frost]

I dont think skullcrusher is worth, what can you reliably stagger?

[slow sky]

lights are for single target or sparse groups, like maybe 3 enemies per swing with decimator if theyre not bruisers

[crisp oak]

ah confused single target withb horde

been too long since I used my beloved

gonna run agri revolver and chovel

[slow sky]

i mean
a lot of stuff
it has a decent amount of impact and it has the special

a special>push>push follow will cause the overhead to land at 80% sc well within the stagger window

but generally youll still get value out of decimator more often, not just from the damage almost unconditionally, but also the cleave and impact

like its the only form of reliable cleave it can get

[calm shard]

devastating strike for shovel when

[slow sky]

mythical strikes

[glacial ferry]

Skullcrusher hammerblow on shovel is the true build

[narrow frost]

real

[slow sky]

thunderstrike trauma actually

[maiden wasp]

just messing around quickly, you can get p damn close

for posterity

[glacial ferry]

Has thunderstrike ever reached a stagger breakpoint for a weapon that doesn't already reach that stagger

I feel like there is no world where a weapon has both trauma and hammerblow that somehow thunderstrike does something better

[hybrid plover]

Thunderstrike in general is just a weirdly designed blessing

You have to stagger an enemy. To then stagger an enemy even more.

In what practical sense will this ever benefit someone

[glacial ferry]

If it was a counter to the stagger resistance that enemies got after being staggered it might actually be useful

[hybrid plover]

But it's not.

So like???

[glacial ferry]

But you stagger a crusher a crusher you're not going to stagger it again for a while lol

[hybrid plover]

What is the game plan with it?

Like with shovels, you already have a guaranteed means of stagger.

[maiden wasp]

messing around w power sword. would you have any idea why my damage is pingponging between ~ 3500 on push attack headshot and around 900? Doesn't seem related to crit or missing w headshot.

[hybrid plover]

If you happen to be running into a situation where something like a crusher was staggered and you actually manage to stagger it again after, that just means you're taking too long to actually kill it.

[spark helm]

Personally feels like their version of dumping a mainstay/smiter type of talent from vt2.

But on a blessing

[hybrid plover]

It's such a self defeating blessing lmao

[spark helm]

So it's just odd.

I like it but it has a hard stop for me.

Even I don't bother with stagger obsessions and I like doing weird shit.

[hybrid plover]

I mean even if you were really building around stagger like that, thunderstrike doesn't even add any real value to a build like that

The stagger resistance after being staggered is still there.

It doesn't really affect anything.

[spark helm]

Hm

Guess I'm goofy this time

[hybrid plover]

Well. Okay. It affects things for the enemies you don't really need it to.

[glacial ferry]

It's got like too many design problems and implications that even if it were good it's probably better to not have it then

80% stagger for the entire team sounds awesome when you consider that like a flamethrower would just perma-stagger everything lol

but stagger res means that's never gonna happen

maybe you can hard stagger a rager but if you staggered a rager and didn't kill it you're either kiting or memeing

[maiden wasp]

so apparantly you can charge the powersword but if you start the push for your push attack early enough you get the visuals of the powered up effect but don't get any of the effects?

we love spaghetti

[slow sky]

while it never happened

when break the line was still getting its subnodes, i really wanted the distance one to be literally anything but that

something i was thinking of was potentially a debuff that affects enemies that makes them more susceptable to impact/stagger
which is quite literally what thunderstrike is

but in actual practice it would be better because its not coming from like a weapon, you dont need to stagger them with the weapon itself to then stagger them better cuz thats dumb

what values would it get to make it useful tho?
idfk

but it woulda been unique without being immediately useless by design

anyway
give every new melee weapon thunderstrike and vicious slice

[hybrid plover]

fatshark is allergic to good ideas i've noticed

[steep flower]

Can be used to as being stated by you; to stagger and then stagger more

Perfect example is paul; with thunderstrike you can prep a chaos spawn with charge, stack thunderstrike as its staggered and then use the special to stagger it again; very niche but i discovered it

[hybrid plover]

Therefore, not practical.

That's kind of the issue.

It does what it's supposed to do.

But the use that actually has is, very niche at best.

[steep flower]

You can also use it instead of HH impact node to achieve what impact from thay keystone offers

[willow prairie]

thunder strike have the problem of literally being on weapon that better blessing exist

[hybrid plover]

So it just becomes a non-option on most weapons because even what it's intended to do, there are just better blessings for that particular purpose that are much more consistent.

[slow sky]

devils claw

[willow prairie]

dclaw isn't real

melee weapon with bad flak adm in my melee game????

[steep flower]

Dclaw even has SC
Also why would you ever take TS when you can use HB (hammerblow) instead?

[slow sky]

DEVILS CLAW IS A FINESSE HORDE LEANING MELEE WHERE HALF ITS BLESSINGS ARE IMPACT RELATED

[steep flower]

TS does more teamwise i guess

[steep flower]

Same can be said about infantry autogun; why majority of the blessings require you to score a close distance kill?

[willow prairie]

fatshark please buff dclaw armor pen or give it uncunny

[steep flower]

On a midrange weapon?

[slow sky]

do not give more weapons uncanny

i think dclaw also is at the cap of blessings

[willow prairie]

bruh the majority of engagement in the game is close ranged and the majority of enemy are melee

your comparison is ass

[slow sky]

"close range" is also basically anything that isnt really long range

[steep flower]

Lets be real; some blessings should never be on some weapons

[willow prairie]

also its 12.5m which is like average distance in this game

[steep flower]

Mirror

[steep flower]

Cause for some reason it has to go up to 30m; granted the dmg falls off but cmon

Its… fishy

[steep flower]

Ye but if you wanna use your inf auto on gunners that are beyond the magic 12,5m you’re blessings don’t do jack; its like you have no proper blessings on that type of weapon
Look at vigils even or inf las; they have perfect blessings for their playstyle
What does inf auto get? Close distance buffs, just like bruhautos
So don’t hit me with the obvious statements & look beyond the main picture silly goose

[narrow frost]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a03e04dd-879b-4a36-8f76-3356883abe36/vet-gun @noble kindle

[steep flower]

No Field Improv

[vestal olive]

ive never seen something more beautifully correct <3

/s

(but not really because I have this)

[hollow ibex]

Optimal middle pathing

[slow sky]

TRUE

[tepid panther]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a00b9cca-3345-4978-ba0c-bd5aada2a012/two-tapper

Is this a safe build to use for power falchion + boltgun?

[tepid otter]

Iz aight, I'll prolly re-allocate a few things but its not horrible

[vestal olive]

How to build the helbore? surgical seems obvious but beyond that. second blessing + perks?

[hollow ibex]

surgical + armorbane/weight of fire

unyielding cara

[hollow ibex]

could be worse, could be better

[tepid otter]

I think my fave build right now is Grenadier Vet with WS

[obtuse finch]

is there a list somewhere of the Veteran execution stance voice lines

the loose cannon ones are really funny and i wanna read them

[tepid otter]

Lemme know if you find one, there were ones I wanted to hear or read again but can't find them

[obtuse finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKQ_BeOy_RQ

[tepid otter]

I think the recent dialogue I found funny was about my Vet making fun of one of the Psykers

[vestal olive]

thanks. and i assume mark IV?

[hollow ibex]

litearlly all the marks are good

my preferred is mk5

because it's very funny

[vestal olive]

funny?

[hollow ibex]

yeah cuz with weight of fire it basically turns into an ilas

(except good)

[dapper coyote]

Chat which knife is gud

[hollow ibex]

mk6 is better but i prefer mk3 (cuz light spam)

[dapper coyote]

I see

Im combo them both with revolver

[tepid otter]

autopistol?

[dapper coyote]

Autopistols on vets?

Guh?

[hollow ibex]

hey SAP isn't bad

it's literally a mini vraks

[dapper coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277023186902585420/1414346844804481145/7yc1ggmmouif1.gif

[dapper coyote]

Mini braced autoguns

Because they can't use irons

[hollow ibex]

well brautos don't have finesse

SAP does lol

[slow sky]

in vc with 2/3 of these ppl and we literally were just laughing the whole time saying "dude this is so rough a psyker would be perfect for this but we only have a vet wtf"

the fuckin kill feed lmfao

double barrel sucks btw

[frigid shuttle]

wdym, I stagger ragers with the meme arbi sm smasher build all the time, they go on the floor and I bonk them again and they die

[hollow ibex]

putting a SAP on my vraks build

[frigid shuttle]

no infinite ammo on crits and the rumbler ogryns keep taking all the ammu-ammu-shooty bits.

[hollow ibex]

lmfao

all this work

when you could be playing purg psyker

and hold down two buttons to delete the horde while being immune to counterfire

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-look-what-they-need-to-mimic-a-fraction-of-our-power-gif-25672186

[slow sky]

1. this is more fun
2. i can actually melee
3. this is actually more damage than purg+flame vent

[hollow ibex]

nuh uh

[slow sky]

it literally is

ive done it repeatedly on 40

[frigid shuttle]

ooh, ws loading the db, that's pretty neat

[hollow ibex]

i mean that's literally THE way to play DB lol

[slow sky]

with the crit chance proccing manstopper and fletchette

[hollow ibex]

1. you could just be holding down 2 buttons and W.
2. why melee when you can just hold down 2 buttons and W.
3. yes, but have you considered that psyker can just hold down 2 buttons and W.

psyker is truly such a deep and well thought-out class

i'm so glad it's in the game

[slow sky]

but people think thats the only thing that can do this

"if smite and purg are nerfed is psyker unviable in havoc?"
real statement i have read with my eyes

[pearl thorn]

is plasma gun still top after the rework

[hollow ibex]

still good

[pearl thorn]

what other vet weapons are top?

[tepid otter]

bolbgun

[pearl thorn]

lasgun better? seen tons of people use it especially recently

[tepid otter]

than a plasma? no

[pearl thorn]

but in its own right?

[tepid otter]

Helbore, and recon is somewhere up there

Infantry las is..

[slow sky]

theres 3 kinda of lasguns lmao

[tepid otter]

unfortunate

[pearl thorn]

saw someone doing good with infantry on damnation

infantry las*

[slow sky]

helbore is top tier on ranged heavy
recon can be used to shoot all the time
infantry las has good damage for countershooting but fights you on landing it and just doesnt match the state of the sandbox right now

[slow sky]

double barrel is top tier for goblin-core gameplay

[tepid otter]

Just wish it was more applicable in higher difficulties

Infantry Las I mean

[pearl thorn]

do the lasguns benefit better with the rework or same before? i thought they were eh and im thinking about giving it a shot

[hollow ibex]

They did but the weapons are so power creeped that it doesn’t make up for it

[pearl thorn]

ah

what exactly is the veteran build after the rework?

[hollow ibex]

There’s some variation

But this is the new one build for vet basically

[pearl thorn]

wait is focus not it no more

[hollow ibex]

WS is and always was better

And now WS has insane pathing

WS>>>MMF>FT rn tbh

[pearl thorn]

ohh

what can I put the extra 2 points in

[hollow ibex]

Lots of options

[vestal olive]

long shot is gud

as is the top right node which i forget the name of

[hollow ibex]

Well actually I think the two points are reserved for the ult you pick

[tepid otter]

Out for Blood?

[pearl thorn]

something toughness related

[hollow ibex]

And one subnode

[pearl thorn]

make senses

is this catered to one weapon or jack of all type of build

[vestal olive]

is my selection

[dapper coyote]

I did tried cole's build

It's literally violence maxxing

[tepid otter]

How was it

[dapper coyote]

Khorne reaches your hand

Offers you his favour

[tepid otter]

I mean youre shooting and hitting people with shovels, violence is a given

[dapper coyote]

Yea, but its VERY violent, SMACK, SWITCH, SHOOT, SWITCH, REPEAT

Simple, but fucking hell your hearts BPM goes to the roof

[tepid otter]

I have yet to try DB honestly

idk why my playstyle leans more into just weapons im more comfy with and just never try new shit

[dapper coyote]

Its 2 tubes of "chaff-begone"

[pearl thorn]

why no grenade tinkerer?

[wild vortex]

Probably the 2nd best shotgun in the game

(2nd only because the Exaction marks exist lol)

[vestal olive]

yeah i really want it. if i had 31 perks it would easily be my 31st selection.

i go back and forth between long shot and tinkerer

[pearl thorn]

gotcha

on your toes is the node pick right?

[vestal olive]

I think most people take no WS support nodes

[tropic notch]

Fun and games

[wild vortex]

Why would you not

They're good

Never having to reload and getting 20% toughness every 3 seconds is pretty cracked

[tropic notch]

@vestal olive

Cole so cool

I wish he was real

Make me wanna play vet

[vestal olive]

On most weapons, not needing to reload is not really a big deal. Gigantic revolver exception notwithstanding

[pearl thorn]

woah woah does he not reload the DB?

[vestal olive]

oh and the DB obvi

[tepid otter]

Look at his ammo on that clip he sent

[pearl thorn]

video quality on phone is bad

[tepid otter]

feelsbadman

[pearl thorn]

so if I don’t pick one, then can I choose grenadier or tinkerer

[tepid otter]

Yeah, Always Prepared seems like its more suited to weapons like DB or Revolver anyway

So you can disregard that if you dont have a gun with a smaller mag

[pearl thorn]

noted

is coles DB build just always prepared activating constantly?

[tepid otter]

Everytime your ranged specialists gets procc'd yeah

[pearl thorn]

image or link to build? id like to copy it

[tropic notch]

Ws node

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a00a382e-05b3-4642-98b3-106184bcd08e/vet-db-knife?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button @pearl thorn I’ve been using this recently

[pearl thorn]

thank you

[tropic notch]

Ws is good with plasma, all shotguns, bolt pistol, and revolver

@tall torrent they made vets base crit 10 right

[austere mica]

Yes

[pearl thorn]

any melee works correct?

[tropic notch]

Christ

[tropic notch]

Depends what do you want to use

[pearl thorn]

heavy sword, power sword, axe or shovel

[tropic notch]

IMO all of those are good but heavy sword

That’s more of a zealot weapon

(Even then not anymore)

I like tac axe and power sword

Shovel is good too

[pearl thorn]

what is shovel dump stat and DB dump stat is mobility if I recall

[pearl thorn]

tac axe makes my fingers hurt. combat axe feels better plus I can get 1k heavy with no crit

[pulsar zephyr]

Sapper shovel my beloved

[tropic notch]

Combat axe is good yeah

Rashad

[pearl thorn]

does the 25% ammo give an extra db shot?

like how arby can get 3 bullets

[hollow ibex]

Yes but not worth it

[hollow ibex]

Skitarius is you’re on PC

[pearl thorn]

xbox

[hollow ibex]

Ah then rip

[slow sky]

ok this lobby kinda dope actually

[willow prairie]

bro is the outcast

[tame lodge]

There's always that one kid

🚬

[tropic halo]

are they cooking

[slow sky]

rude as fuck

we got hit with shit like this

[junior grail]

The knowledge that there are Creators with NDA knowledge of what's coming edges me to no end

[slow sky]

theres nothing of significance they know atm tho

[junior grail]

I was watching some discussion vids on youtube, they implied that they knew

[tropic halo]

what NDA is about?

[slow sky]

they dont

[tropic halo]

You talking about december update or something else

[slow sky]

theyre speculating

[junior grail]

I see, thanks for clearing up

[tropic halo]

I am to take a guess that as the new class is revealed they shortly will also reveal the update

[junior grail]

Gotta wait patiently till Nov 11

[thorn lark]

Yeah Like Mr E (pic Cole)

[junior grail]

Shook pikachu face

[steel surge]

first game of the day, auric rolling steel

voidblast staff psyker tells me it's my job to kill the far range sniper

Point out I'm running the Dshotty, emprah decides if I hit that target

Tells me to not run trash guns

Same guy told the lvl 500 arbi to touch grass

just for being lvl 500. We should introduce him to some of you lot

[midnight wyvern]

is it?

[steel surge]

nah

[midnight wyvern]

june

naur

plenty of time to get some pretty high levels on it

I wasn't even trying and mine is like level 230 after a few weeks of it being out

auric levels you fast

I just don't play it anymore cuz

sort of

not my style of play

and the one thing I wanted to do on it was broken for a month and a bit after release

so I just gave up, never went back

Meleeker is now the comfort food, and I do normal psyk and vet for havoc mostly

arb never really sees gameplay lmao

arb suffers

pls buff

[tepid otter]

that bad?

[steel surge]

which vet build do you prefer in havoc?

[midnight wyvern]

my own

its just bolter shout vet but with more and more put into damage rather than melee or survivability

gold is more than enough

get bent lmao

[frigid shuttle]

oh wow, dum-dum has to be broken, it's activating at like 40m+

[midnight wyvern]

if you touch on havoc, H16 gives a pretty good amount of resources to a new player

would let you max that weapon before you give it a proper go

I think you'd get 1 good weapon out of that amount, maybe 2

like 5600 plasteel weekly

[midnight wyvern]

no no

close range is just not close

[frigid shuttle]

every other similar talent is 12m or whatever for 'close'

[midnight wyvern]

you get H16 unlocked from doing an auric maelstrom

and plenty of people in here would be more than down to help clear it

should do

might have had the weekly decay

even if you're below H16 you can just do another auric mael and get it back too

lol

I should just max every weapon I have left

effort

I have like 400k plasteel so I can just sacrifice spam

but menutide waits for another day

[tepid otter]

wfh?

[midnight wyvern]

work from home

[umbral scaffold]

throw it in the air right?

[tepid otter]

What if it hits a ceiling

[umbral scaffold]

or explodes mid air

[distant mural]

Thats what u want

It has to explode right above them

Time the fuse so it explodes right ontop of a horde. Practice in psykanium.

[steel surge]

got this on lights out when throwing a random nade behind me on a bridge

aurics with hordes on bridges should help you get it fast

Or throw a long nade forward on something like rolling steel

[meager echo]

The event spam specials like crazy

[frigid shuttle]

Ah, less broken then.

still interesting that it triggers on targets that are far

[undone bronze]

Which would yall say is more helpfull to the team- Voice of command or executioner's stance to make sure all those stinky gunners are dead?

[limpid basalt]

Fatshark descriptions do be like that

[distant mural]

Exe is def more fun

[meager echo]

You can't shoot all the gunners before they kill you.

[distant mural]

Voice is allright but book is better

[distant mural]

You can lol

[turbid ibex]

Exe might actually be better now after the shout nerfs

[meager echo]

Post your exe h40 run. See if you can handle all the gunners ?

[turbid ibex]

Not that gold is bad by any means

[meager echo]

he said for the team not vet.

[distant mural]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-are-you-ok-are-you-alright-gif-16392183

[turbid ibex]

Youre still helping the team with exe

[meager echo]

Brute force gunners is not going to work.

[distant mural]

It is

Voice is a one trick pony

Thats actually ur job as vet on havoc

[undone bronze]

I’m really leaning on the fact that you can extend the duration of stance making it better

[distant mural]

Idk what ur on about

[turbid ibex]

A pony thats gotten some pretty big nerfs

[meager echo]

bro

[distant mural]

Killing specials is vets job

[meager echo]

i don't shoot gunners in h40

[distant mural]

Get over it u walking plasma gun

[distant mural]

Lol lmao even

[meager echo]

I smoke, I enable my frontline to melee them. It work for me consistently.

The only thing I shoot is specialists.

[undone bronze]

Just click on their heads

[distant mural]

Nonono thats way too easy

Gotta play meta here

[undone bronze]

Darktide is actually just osu

Prove me wrong

[tall torrent]

Plasma gun actually doesn’t get reliable 1 taps on gunners without exe stance in havoc

[undone bronze]

I like muh bolted

[distant mural]

Plasma gun doodoo

[undone bronze]

Bolter

[tall torrent]

Boltgun doesn’t either

[distant mural]

A man of culture

Thats why u go exe

More fun

[meager echo]

I don't shoots gunners. I don't think I need to

[undone bronze]

Might finally try the infinite lasgun soon since you can finally just make guns

(I took a 2 year break)

[hollow ibex]

prob because HITSG

[meager echo]

Maybe it's due to the mutants wave

[undone bronze]

Last question-power sword or falchion

[turbid ibex]

Pord if you want meta

[hollow ibex]

i hate the psword abbreviation

[turbid ibex]

Pion if you hate pord's activation mechanic

[toxic reef]

relic blade has made me use falchion weirdly, since I'm used to just switch back and forth between it and ranged to cancel the special

but that makes me waste WS stacks instead lol

[turbid ibex]

Which one

[tame lodge]

Pord

[turbid ibex]

Too bad

[mortal aspen]

shistol is my fav abbreviation

[turbid ibex]

Plun

[meager echo]

I don't think I shoot gunners in h40

30mins run

why waste your time doing nothing ?

throw smoke, ignore them. Easy mode, you don't need to interact with them just saying.

[tall torrent]

Power sword is basically the overall strongest melee in the game
Falchion is incredibly half baked and can use many small buffs

[tame lodge]

Renamed to Vraks5

[dark surge]

exe if you hate gunners or are bored

else usually your team is equipped enough to deal with the typical 9 room gunners with bubble/venting/chorus/charge/taunt, in which voc would be better

[toxic flicker]

Depends in weapon you're running as well

Helbore is incredible with exe but with voice it's frustrating

For example

[dark surge]

if you do happen to run into a massive room of gunners or keep rolling shooters for ambience then exe would help immensely

[toxic flicker]

Only problem with exe is if someone is stealing your kills (may be by accident or intentional with hp bars mod no way to know)

[meager echo]

exe is very strong for vet vs gunners. But in pubs you need VoC to help your team.
I think krak is way stronger than smoke. But I don't like to deal with gunners. I rather fighting crushers all day than playing cover shooting.
Every blitz is viable on vets, pick what you think is cool and enjoy playing with.

[toxic flicker]

But hitting weak spots would resolve that problem with most elites

[toxic flicker]

Not only gunners. Ragers get deleted as well. I would go as far as to say maulers fall into the same category.

[swift river]

I keep trying other melee weapons but the knife seems to be the only thing that I really vibe with

[toxic flicker]

Dueling sword is kinda similar afaik

[turbid ibex]

Exe is also surprisingly good on melee vet with the constant toughness regen

[meager echo]

Exe is way better than VoC defensive wise, but it's only apply on vet.
VoC is more like a team defensive tool.

[toxic flicker]

Well TECHNICALLY

No

The modifier with the outline

[meager echo]

You can't face tank gunners with VoC.
You can with exe

[toxic flicker]

It buffs the team with walls on specialists and elites

[toxic flicker]

Talking about the application only on vet

[toxic flicker]

My counterargument: no need to tank when you could just stagger and take them out with VoC

[turbid ibex]

VoC has limited range

[toxic flicker]

Technically you could apply some sort of utility to the team no matter how insignificant it is

[meager echo]

Yeah, enable vet/ teams to kill specialist is also a strong point of exe

But the problems is, the meta in my sv. Vet is the only one dealing with specialists.

[toxic flicker]

Sv?

[meager echo]

Hong Kong

[toxic flicker]

Ahhh server

Ty for elaborating

[meager echo]

In Hong Kong the meta is very defensive oriented.
It's a good and also a bad thing. It has very high win rate, but it lack player identity.
I rarely see off meta lobbies tbh.

[distant mural]

Every elite and special except crusher/bullwark to be precise. And thats what kraks are for

[rancid dragon]

Hello everyone

[distant mural]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-gif-5677380953331354485

[toxic flicker]

I agree

Just wanted to specify for these elites

It's especially easy to take them out of the equation

[distant mural]

With maniac and unyielding on bolter u 1-2 shot everything

[toxic flicker]

And monstrosities

[distant mural]

Yeah thats what the unyielding is for

[toxic flicker]

Krak deals with them really fast

[meager echo]

Krak might be the best blitz for vets.

[distant mural]

It is my fav now

Before it was shredders

[toxic flicker]

Or on helbore with brittleness on charge and fast charge

[distant mural]

I just succ with hellbore i cant help it

Its too slow for me

[toxic flicker]

Chose it because kraks are my favourite nades in sm2

[meager echo]

I had a game with another krak vet in the team. He has like 900k blitz dmg.
It's very strong.

[toxic flicker]

I was in the same boat but i try to become better and as far as im seeing it's working out. Im having a blast (even if my team leaves me while i clear the specials/elite and horde and im being overrun atm rather than clearing them proceeding)

(sorry for the rant dump)

[distant mural]

It used to be my favorite weapon when the bayonet was stronger.

But idk i just dont like it anymore

[toxic flicker]

Understandable. The bolt weapons could be objectively better as well since they have innate rending

[meager echo]

The problem I have the most with helbore is the swap speed and my bad aim.
I'm can't hit heads consistently.

[distant mural]

Buff the lasgun and pistol first imo

[toxic flicker]

Meler vet with bolt weapons is chef's kiss

[distant mural]

Yeah and the swap is still abysmal

Even bolter is better then helbore

[toxic flicker]

Honestly? I thought about taking the swap speed perk a few times. However exe fixed the problem

[meager echo]

The swap speed is better than before new tree, but It's not comfy enough compare to easier weapon like plasma gun.

[distant mural]

I allways take it for the bolter

But hellbore is just so slow idk why they make it like that

[toxic flicker]

Exe instantly lets you shoot

[meager echo]

I think the only reason they make the swap speed slow to avoid bayonet qq cancel.

[distant mural]

True but i switch a lot

[toxic flicker]

Understandable

[distant mural]

Ah i forgot stuff like that exists

[toxic flicker]

I swap around the situation

[distant mural]

Some people allways gotta ruin it for everyone i guess

[meager echo]

I found it, 940k blitz dmg.

[tall torrent]

One Motion makes it ~0.6s for swap to aim

[swift river]

If you’re using Helbore, you need One Motion

[languid crane]

hello everyone i have aquestion what is the best mark for shock maul mk Ia or mk III?

[surreal rune]

both are quite good but the mark IA has a slightly better moveset

for single target whilst

the mark III has a slightly better moveset for horde clear

[turbid ibex]

Its prob just because its meant to be an option for builds that are more focused on ranged rather than melee or hybrid

[surreal rune]

the mark IA is also easier to use imo

[languid crane]

didnt use the mk III version just decided to give i a go but i saw it had some minor problems with horde clear

[surreal rune]

both wont see much horde clear because theyre reliant on impact

id recommend

hammerblow/faltering, skullcrusher for blessings

[surreal rune]

iirc, enemies that are staggered by impact have less body hit mass and cleave is more effective

hammerblow and faltering both give more impact on the weapon

[surreal rune]

so this impact becomes your horde clear

[languid crane]

for perks i asume flak/carapace,unyielding right?

[surreal rune]

yes

id recommend flak, carapace

[surreal rune]

whilst hammerblow and faltering give more impact, skullcrusher makes enemies take more damage after being hit while staggered

so skullcrusher is an amazing blessing all around

if you are playing arbites (... or zealot with specific parks), you dont have to take an impact blessing to help with horde clear and access to skullcrusher

[frigid shuttle]

I hate rolling steel, when some nitwit runs off and dies, leaves and you're stuck with 3 people

[languid crane]

i see thanks for the help criminal i will go give it a whirl

[surreal rune]

in this case, opportunist or high voltage would be the most optimal blessings

[surreal rune]

the special attack is also fun to use

good against bulwark shields

[autumn ferry]

rolling steel is epic until the battery part where everyones brains immediately turn off

[tall torrent]

Falter doesn’t (for melee)

[rancid dragon]

Morple

[slow spade]

Yeah idk why but any event where the team has to move. Everyone just turns braindead

Some mission events are just me soloing the objective and staring as they just fight in a corner

[frigid shuttle]

spamming "go there" helps a little

[languid crane]

50% of the times you spam it maybe

[slow spade]

To be frank, I've been a bit mean and just sit in a corner and see how long it takes for them to do something

[calm shard]

I generally stay in the objective area and kill everything so someoen else can do the objective

Largely because in my experience if I'm not killing things then they ain't dying

[fair shale]

I saw someone get trapped in the door section of that one level recently

Where its rng which ones close

[slow spade]

Lol yeah that's always a funny one

[slow spade]

I must admit I'm a bit mean and like to see how randoms react once I stop contributing :p

"Alright that's the 3rd objective I've solo'd your turn 'team'"

[tropic notch]

What’s up with pubs and nuking my psyker

3rd time a plasma vet has shot one while I’m trying to push

[slow spade]

Were you running up to it?

A plasma can 1-tap bursters so I usually shoot them for Tac Aware and safer

[fair shale]

I find shooting PBs is really common rn

[slow spade]

If I hit a teammate, they're pretty much always running up to it

[fair shale]

Tbh I started shooting them cause I'm so accustomed to people in havoc not being able to push em for some ungodly reason

[tropic notch]

I wasn’t I was melee psyker and my vet shot it as I pushed it

[slow spade]

Ah then funny times with randoms

[thorn lark]

So don't shoot it maybe?

[thorn lark]

I had unpushable bursters recently. With a full bar of stamina 🙁

[fair shale]

I've had that too but its statistically unlikely it keeps happening

[slow spade]

No lol, don't run to suicide bombers

Surprised people defend that

[fair shale]

Tbf i was always taught to shove them

Not shoot them

Its only seemingly recently people have abandoned shoving them

[dapper coyote]

Chat, whats 🅱️ ISTOL's dump stat?

[hollow ibex]

collateral

[dapper coyote]

Nice, i got a good roll then

[slow spade]

Indeed, people just tend to get stuck on the mindset of "there's only 1 way to handle bursters"

Even though they take 30x explosive damage and can be 1-tapped/staggered

Just toss a nade their direction is all you need to do usually

[near bay]

Shit, got a ogryn with the GG and he can just shoot the fucker once with it.

[slow spade]

Same with any traumas, frags, barrels, etc

Interesting, bolter explosions don't count

I was hoping the new bolter mark would let me paste bursters crossmap but sadly no :c

[near bay]

Pushing is the ammo smart thing to do and if you can, you should but if he's a mile away running towards you like he needs to destroy to local portajohn, just shoot him.

[trim badger]

Plasma vet outside of havoc = worst player garanteed

[slow spade]

Yeah that's why my first comment was "were you running up to it?" As you're typically safe to shoot bursters unless they're running towards the suicide bomber

But randoms just see big flashing light and mag dump lol

Such is life in quickplay

[tropic notch]

Yeah it’s just a quick play thing

[willow prairie]

RAH IM HOME

I can play vt2 above 35 fps

[slow spade]

At least the audio is good on bursters. Unironically, I've started just running away from bursters lol

[tough fractal]

Whats the best ranged weapon to complete the Marksmans focus penance the kill 2,500?

[slow spade]

Could shoot/nade it but then it could tag someone.

Or I run away and not deal with the headache lol

[slow spade]

Unironically, I used a double barrel

It worked but idk if it's better than say the Zarona shotgun for headshots

[tame lodge]

Most likely a shotgun

With Manstopper it has infinite cleave

So just shoot hordes at head level

Rinse and repeat

[tough fractal]

Gotcha, thank you guys!

[karmic osprey]

when was the last changes to the vet tree? i havent played in a bit and all my perks loudouts are reset. but at a quick glance i dont really notice any missing/added nodes

[thorn lark]

Depends on the situation. If someone is preparing to push it, what's your excuse for shooting? It's already taken care of. If the bursters is far away, yeah, ok shoot it.

[thorn lark]

A month ago.

[slow spade]

Indeed, hence why I keep my options open. I try to decide what method works best. Which is typically shooting it. Thanks to good audio cues...usually

[thorn lark]

Usually

[topaz bluff]

Whats a good build for plasma gun? just getting into actually building my Vet beyond whats cool

[slow spade]

Funny times with audio c:

[uncut ore]

an ambush?

[thorn lark]

Just your basic weapon specialist or focus target

[slow spade]

Unironically if you see damage, its good.

You can make a competent vet build by just selecting any node that gives damage

Weapon Specialist Plasma for the +70% damage and +100% crit lmao

[thorn lark]

I don't know. I played since beta and for a long time. And it's happening a lot recently.

[slow spade]

It's more complex than "damage good" but you can genuinely make a decent build with that mindset

[thorn lark]

I have not played plasma in 2 years

[topaz bluff]

Ive been using weapon specialist for it, its genuinely great

But taking 2/3 headshots to take down a crusher doesnt feel right?

[thorn lark]

Do you realize that's good?

[topaz bluff]

I didnt realise it was

[thorn lark]

It's comparable to exec + mmf zarona revolver with carapace, surgical and handcannon

[slow spade]

They got a fucking 50% hp increase recently

[hollow ibex]

more than that

for auric

[topaz bluff]

Would be nice if they made any noise whatsoever

[thorn lark]

It's 100% no?

Feels like 6k

[slow spade]

Lol yeah it's closer to like 70% or something stupid like that

[thorn lark]

What took 4 rounds of bolters takes around 7 or 8 now

[hollow ibex]

they were at 3.5k before i think?

now at 6.5k

[slow spade]

Yeah ikr, idk why they don't have good audio (to be fair, audio has been an issue for literal years now)

[slow spade]

4k to 6.5k

[thorn lark]

Yeah 3.6k ish

4k?

[slow spade]

Pre-buff

[thorn lark]

I thought it was a bit lower

[hollow ibex]

3.6k before

[thorn lark]

But if you factor in carapace adms... Well feeels a looot more

[thorn lark]

Ninja crushers

[slow spade]

Wait checked my old pics 3.6k

Sorry D: I think I confused for Reapers

[topaz bluff]

What blessings are good on plasma?

[topaz bluff]

Oh you're a star

[thorn lark]

What crushers feel like

[topaz bluff]

Where can i find those resources?

[topaz bluff]

So true

[thorn lark]

Pinned guide

[hollow ibex]

work in progress guide unfortunately, so not public yet

i just stole that one from when path shared it here

[thorn lark]

🙁

[topaz bluff]

Oh i see very nice

Hoping for a plasma pistol sometime, I dont care how it'll work i just think they're cool

[dapper coyote]

I'm hoping for melta stuff

Just, MELT EM

[topaz bluff]

Zealots need an inferno pistol

Insane melta isnt in the game allready

[proper solstice]

You guys from space marine 2?

[dapper coyote]

No

[proper solstice]

Because all those weapons are available there hahas

[dapper coyote]

I just like the meltas in general

[topaz bluff]

Yeah but its cooler to use it as a normal guy

[thorn lark]

You play a space marine tho

[topaz bluff]

I couldnt get into space marine 2 as much as Darktide

[proper solstice]

Sm2 is more like a soul game

[proper solstice]

I do and I enjoy it as much as tide series

Guess I am buying into the 40k series

[thorn lark]

Wdym

[proper solstice]

It is about parry and sometimes you have to counter attack. We do not stumble the enemies over there

[mortal aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-gif-2520491561162238565

POV: you're a hive tyrant or something

[karmic osprey]

Thanks, it was probably around 2 months at least since i played so all good then.

Do you know what the patch was called, so I can read up on the changes

[thorn lark]

Bound by duty

#📢news-bulletin message

[tame lodge]

Yeah but spacemid 2 is fucking mid

https://tenor.com/view/incredibles-bob-parr-the-incredibles-gif-7194125

[topaz bluff]

I dont think its bad i just prefer darktide

[vernal crag]

no its fun

[surreal rune]

the block axe buff may bring me back to space marine

[tall torrent]

Just ask me

I’m its author

[tame lodge]

Mid things can be fun

Like the shock Maul

[faint beacon]

And power falchion

But I’m still upset it doesn’t do more

[tepid otter]

Was falchion only for vet, I forget

[eternal sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1354546700685152367/1355618869578043753/IMG_9626.gif

[tepid otter]

sus

[faint beacon]

Yes

[crisp oak]

Btw what is the hordeclear combo for the falchion

Because by god could I not figure it out on the fly

[hollow ibex]

depends, which one

[crisp oak]

Whichever one is better at horde clearing

[topaz bluff]

Ok where can i find those resources

[serene bough]

Light light heavy for mk1

[crisp oak]

Ok I think I used that

Still wasnt a fan

So guess weapon just not for me

[hollow ibex]

I use LL BC

On mk1

[crisp oak]

Tried that too

[hollow ibex]

Could try mk2 ig

[crisp oak]

Probably wasnt best to just blindly go into aurics

With it

[hollow ibex]

Though idr the combos

[crisp oak]

Ill probably just revert to my baseline

[narrow widget]

insane aura farm

[crisp oak]

Shovel

[narrow widget]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

[tall torrent]

I meant as in, if u have questions, ask me

[narrow widget]

holy aura path

[dry cloak]

Whats the meaning of life

[atomic void]

nope

outside of rolling and parrying its not really the same thing at all

[dry cloak]

I can see where can that comaprison comes from

[narrow widget]

path will u marry me

[atomic void]

block weapons exist

[dry cloak]

Thats on me

[tall torrent]

No

[narrow widget]

wow

[spark helm]

It's sorta there but way closer to something like arkham or assassin's creed from way back.

[atomic void]

its very surface level tho, the game is just sm1 with extra steps

[dry cloak]

Yeah. Playing lords of the fallen. Games nice

[spark helm]

Or any other AAA perfect dodge/parry light and heavy combo shenanigans

[crisp oak]

GoW6

[atomic void]

i should co op that with my ngihtreign gang

[dry cloak]

The 2023 game. However i completed the 2014 game

[atomic void]

better comaprison

[azure narwhal]

MY LUNGS ARE GIVING UP KINDRED

[dry cloak]

If you have a friend that has lords of the fallen. Talk to him you dont need to buy the game. Friends pass exists

[crisp oak]

Bath.wrawrer how to make power falchion feel good

[azure narwhal]

This bench took the fucking life outta me

How is my breathing getting worse

[tall torrent]

Unironically rending strikes help it a decent amount

[spark helm]

You got your dump stat?

[crisp oak]

Seems like it

[tall torrent]

Besides that just the usual

[dry cloak]

Bath of the vet chat what your wisdom

[atomic void]

oh that's neat

[tall torrent]

Take every +damage talent

[crisp oak]

I got like 10 dumps

[tall torrent]

Take trench fighter

[crisp oak]

With perfects

[tall torrent]

And cope

[azure narwhal]

Weapon specialist and trench fighter for falch is great

[narrow widget]

path what's 67

[crisp oak]

Is there any reason to actually use it?

[atomic void]

le fun

[crisp oak]

Over like rashad

[dry cloak]

Fun

[spark helm]

If you want yo use it use it

[azure narwhal]

I like to use it use it

[dry cloak]

I like to move it move it

[azure narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-happy-dance-dance-moves-gif-21380738

[crisp oak]

I'm moreso trying to figure out what niche it was going for

[tall torrent]

I don’t think falchion does anything impressive enough tho unfortunately

[atomic void]

it just feels like a worse relic blade

[tall torrent]

And with exe stance being so good (it also fixes power sword’s bug) I just can’t see myself using falchion

[atomic void]

but its kinda cool

[narrow frost]

Cyber

[tall torrent]

Funnily enough it’s higher dps than relic blade lol

[azure narwhal]

There's no niche. It's just a power falchion. You either push attack with one mk or uppercut with the other

[crisp oak]

I might just return to shitter

[narrow frost]

Try ex stance cowboy revolver

[atomic void]

yes habibi

[narrow frost]

And just play melee vet

[crisp oak]

Currently running cowboy shovel

[narrow frost]

It was so fun in havoc

[atomic void]

that actually sounds fun

[dry cloak]

The propah build

[atomic void]

i love the cowboy gun

[spark helm]

It's not really a niche it's a weapon that can work. Can be used for horde clear and weaker specialist and elite kills. Worth using in tandem with ranged weapons that cover anti-carapace.

[crisp oak]

Using the cowboy makes me feel like "double the discipline"

[dry cloak]

It is. Especially with incresed mag size node

[spark helm]

Like the niche is the same as any other generalist melee tool

Nothing more specific or special

[atomic void]

how tf

[narrow widget]

relic blade is slow ig

[spark helm]

Faster

[crisp oak]

If on st makes sense

[atomic void]

i martymaxx im fast

[azure narwhal]

Until you remember zealot's keystones and fotf, that is

As a base weapon though not really surprised

I mean. Eviscerator

Thank god for zealot

[crisp oak]

Anyway I think the reason I dont like the falchion is the abrupt stops on some of the swings

Reminds me of the vt2 falchion

[spark helm]

Abrupt sto

[crisp oak]

Which I didnt use for similar reasons

[spark helm]

Hm?

[serene bough]

Its not really that impressive of a weapon

[spark helm]

What are your blessings?

[crisp oak]

The relic blade ones

[serene bough]

To me the heavies wind up too slow and the blessings aren't great

[crisp oak]

Cleave and the lower heat on headshots

But the abrupt stop is moreso a moveset issue

[tall torrent]

Yea

[spark helm]

I'm not sure what you mean by the abrupt stop

[tall torrent]

Nah this is including full builds lol

Falchion actually leads dps a bit

Falchion just has abysmal stagger breakpoints

[crisp oak]

Horizontal swings stopping going from right to the center of the screen

[tall torrent]

And unpowered atks are abysmal

And tbh falchion also isn’t that high damage

It’s not even as good as Rashad

[azure narwhal]

Yeah, so it's statistically better but practically the dps is worse because you'll never be reaching it in a gameplay scenario

[crisp oak]

As opposed to going all the way from right to left

[tall torrent]

What

[spark helm]

If it's a mixed horde with more armored guys that majes more sense

[atomic void]

so this is an example that dps aint the only metric
if RB outpreforms it by the viture of having ok unpowered and way better stagger then it ends up feeling better and doing more

[tall torrent]

How come a dps number can’t be reached because u have worse stagger breakpoints

[crisp oak]

Im struggling to explain it, but its a specific horizontal move that breaks my flow

[tall torrent]

This isn’t super conditional buff stacking

[narrow widget]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-23548728

[atomic void]

its shrimple
i see pack of ragers with RB i go mama mia
i see a pack of ragers with funny saber and i go dios mio

[crisp oak]

I think its the l1 or l2 of saltz's axe that does the same

[azure narwhal]

That will noticeably slow down your gameplay and put you in more risk though no? It's just like evisc stagger issues. On the other hand, zealot is (of course) more fitted for the role in terms of sustain and survivability in pure melee

[crisp oak]

Vet has nades and shout

[spark helm]

No i know what you mean. I run it in aurics as the cap on my overall patience with some tools while I keep going through havocs.

Most trouble I've had with it was usually a mixed horde scenario in which case I actually don't really try to cleave and go for single target combos or quick swap gunplay off of ws

[tall torrent]

Practically falchion is higher dps than RB on single target irrespective of stagger

And, rather funnily

I’m not sure if zealot is “better” sustain than vet in melee atm

Given exe + CK

[crisp oak]

For toughness gen?

[narrow widget]

nerf vet fr fr fr

[crisp oak]

Is exe that good?

[narrow widget]

we need him killed

[crisp oak]

tf did they do to it

[spark helm]

Exestance is fantastic now

[narrow widget]

#nerfvet

[tall torrent]

U get like 30% TGH per second for playing the game properly

[spark helm]

It was already solid enough

^

[crisp oak]

Oh

Ranged weakspot hits or just any weakspot hits?

[tall torrent]

Just exe + CK

Kill special/elite

[azure narwhal]

You can melee whatever is marked

[crisp oak]

Ah I see

[tall torrent]

10 procs of CK is 20%/s

Exe is 10%/s

[crisp oak]

Thats cool

[tall torrent]

CaB is 5%/s

[atomic void]

until vet gets actual health dmg reduction ill never be able to goof around with it as much as a class that ignores death every 2 minutes

[crisp oak]

Still gonna run shout because I like yelling

[tall torrent]

Nah u have 200+ TGH and u can tank so many gunners it’s crazy

[azure narwhal]

Zealot also has major damage reduction tbf. Fotf + piety make you a unit

[narrow widget]

yo can we remove vet from the game smh he doesn't ignore death smh

[atomic void]

what is this meme

[tall torrent]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664591642967408640/1430083555605610506/54A988B55506C581625FC1A14DFE215DF542619B.mov?ex=6905ab99&is=69045a19&hm=828716136ebaeff3f98348605ef4fc57d9f9c5f3bb0bea80778eec2b34800342&

It’s actually ridiculous

[azure narwhal]

Maybe we should remove YOU from the game

[atomic void]

ok wtf

bro was outregening the gunner dmg

[spark helm]

You just get the benefits of potentially bleeding toughness gen on top of bonus damage to elites specials and even grunts if you go with counter fire.

You can easily leverage that with the p.falchion if you happen to be in cqc range just like any other weapon. And since it's and heat weapon already yaking weakspot bonuses you can see where this going at this rate. @crisp oak

[tall torrent]

I’m really not sure if zealot is higher sustain than vet in melee atm

I’m not even sure if arb is higher sustain than vet in melee atm

[atomic void]

if that's the case then buff my habibi zealot pls and thanks

[crisp oak]

Yup I see it

[narrow widget]

this will be darktide in 2023

[turbid ibex]

Is it you talking in the video?

[dapper coyote]

Is godwyn Bistol good?

The one with HE rounds instead of AP

[narrow widget]

no

[spark helm]

It's one of my favorite abilities since the closed beta. Took a while but it's so goof that mfkers genuinely have to lie to say it doesnt go nuts.

[atomic void]

its a gun that exists

[tall torrent]

No, friend

[turbid ibex]

Video is even funnier now

[spark helm]

If you want to run it in melee fiend builds go for it it's fun and puts in work. Otherwise consider the mark that does better precision dmg

[dapper coyote]

Well then, im sticking to the AP Bistol

Tapping fucking Specialists and Crushers is very fun with them

[spark helm]

You really can just try things. You don't need vet chat blessings and approval

[crisp oak]

Yeah never liked how exe was before

[atomic void]

shooting crushers with bolt pistol is a waste tbh

they tank too many bullets

[turbid ibex]

Rest of the team is just talking about whatever while this one vet is just locked the fuck in

[crisp oak]

My favorite gun is the columnus

Auto

800 rounds

[spark helm]

Ye olde CIAG

When has that thing not been stable?

[crisp oak]

Technically I think ye old columnis is the vraks now

[spark helm]

I can't think of a time when it wasn't solid/good

[turbid ibex]

Actually accurate depiction of loose cannon vs cutthroat

[crisp oak]

Havoc

When it first came out

Las soldier was too good

[spark helm]

I only recently started playing havoc (when it wants to fucking work) but been busy/trying out sm2

[dapper coyote]

I wanna play lvl1 havocs lmao

[crisp oak]

I... dont like havoc much

Efl sucks donkey

[dapper coyote]

But 2 PLAYERS REQUIREMENT

FACK

[narrow widget]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[spark helm]

Wouldn't know the peak I'm willing to push on less popular tool. Plenty of meta builds around that happen to have weapons i already like

[crisp oak]

I did my 40 and was sorta just done

[spark helm]

I enjoy it for the newer challenge because the bullshit is funny.

[crisp oak]

Did 2 or three 40s when arbi came out

They were okay

[spark helm]

And well, auric is like heresy to me and has been for a while. I just wasn't looking for groups much back then

So no havoc experience until recently

[tall torrent]

Why 2023

[spark helm]

Reminds me of modded cataclysm shenanigans

[narrow widget]

idk

[spark helm]

Where ppl made mods to make the game a ball hydraulic press

Just to feel something after getting used to the challenge of deeds/winds cataclysm

[narrow widget]

there is something wrong with tide players

[narrow frost]

ye

[spark helm]

People like challenge. And fwiw these games aren't that hard in the same way l4d2 wasn't hard until you just made rulesets to force that challenge

[tall torrent]

There’s a funny new extraction shooter on steam u shud try

[narrow frost]

I've heard of a few new ones

arc raiders and matter something?

[tall torrent]

Duckov

Try it

[narrow frost]

ah

that too

hmmm, not that interested in extract shooter but that sounds goofy enough to try

[tepid otter]

Just play tarkov at that point lmao

[spark helm]

Personally just like the pressure of higher difficulties in tide games. Just feels cool to take on all this crap the director throws at folks

[tall torrent]

It’s a very goofy game that looks unserious but actually has extremely competent gameplay & progression

[limber pawn]

which falchion mark is good?

[tall torrent]

1

[limber pawn]

flak + maniac and cranial + leakage is fine?

or if you know any better

[tall torrent]

Unyielding
Carapace
Cranial
Leakage

[limber pawn]

can it kill carapace?

[void dragon]

Falchion Def can kill, but it's time is somewhat slow for the trade of activation uptime if you ask me

[tepid otter]

Well at least it blocks attacks while doing it

[tall torrent]

Yes

2.6~3.1k dps on avg

[serene bough]

I have duckov but haven't tried yet

Is it actually a good game or just a meme

[tepid otter]

i mean you get to play a duck thats already like that one game that sounds like it

[serene bough]

Ive never played tarkov

My fiance just wanted to play with the cute ducks so I bought

[tall torrent]

Really seriously good

[serene bough]

That's funny

Ill try on your word then

[tall torrent]

There’re load of memes and Easter eggs in the game

It has 5 handcrafted maps

[serene bough]

Is it better single or multi-player

There's a mod for multi player Im p sure

[mystic oak]

Is it wrong to call a arbites whos being dumb a lexhead?

[tepid otter]

Im not sure they'll find that insulting tho

[steel surge]

I want to switch the melee weapon on my Dshotty crit build (currently running power sword). I saw Cole use a shock maul in a vid earlier today; Should I use the MKI or III? In the pinned guide the marks seem very similar.

[tall torrent]

Yes but not fully stable and it’s implemented a bit weird

[tall torrent]

Base game is single player
If the multiplayer mod worked perfect then it’s obv better as multiplayer

[serene bough]

Ok cool

Ill give it a go

[tall torrent]

Just don’t go fight the ground zero boss early

lol

[tepid otter]

I thought it was a Shovel he was using

[steel surge]

I watched it on my phone so you're probably right.

[hybrid plover]

It's mk1 shovel yeah

[steel surge]

ah right, I see the guide mentions the horde clear of that shovel mark

any tips on how to be a good shovel goblin?

[spark helm]

It's as easy as looping heavies, using push attacks and shoves well

[tepid otter]

Hit heretics with the sharp end

[spark helm]

You don't need to really treat the weapon like it's a complex cut gem. It's a simple tool with great application for low execution effort

[steel surge]

sounds like a weapon fit for me

[hybrid plover]

Push attack + light attacks for single target or sparse groups, heavy attacks for actual horde clear

[steel surge]

I tend to prefer straightforward weapons on my ogryn and psyker

When do you guys use that folding action?

[spark helm]

Never in my case do idk

[tepid otter]

The mark 1 doesn have that i dont think

[tall torrent]

Cheese the game with uncanny strike

[hybrid plover]

U don't. Because what he uses is mk1

[spark helm]

Mk1 is thr stab

[tepid otter]

stoob shovel

[spark helm]

For the special attack

[tall torrent]

Unyielding
Carapace
Uncanny
Decimator

For mk1

[hybrid plover]

Mk1 has a stab that has a virtually guaranteed stagger on anything that isn't a boss or stagger resistent.

Assuming you hit weakspots

[spark helm]

And that's mainly used as a weaved in thing for single target combos or defensively staggering something ready to beat you down

[slow spade]

I forget, does Rending apply to Maniac and Infested?

[tall torrent]

Maniac yes
Infested noe

[slow spade]

Ah ok, thank you c:

Rip bolter with rending (mmf)

[dry cloak]

?

you are still better into anything else with mmf bolter

[slow spade]

Wanted to see if I could cover the relatively low Infested damage on the bolter

Trying to make a meme mk3 AOE bolter build

[hybrid plover]

It still does just fine against infested

[slow spade]

Trying something stupid essentially

[slow spade]

True, but wanted to see if I could use rending to make it better

[tepid otter]

I actually like the mk3 bolter tho

[hybrid plover]

And really, if it's aoe bolter, even more so

[dry cloak]

you will have better luck on arny imo

[tepid otter]

[dry cloak]

25% infested/ +10% infested and something idk what are these modifiers

[steel surge]

about to take it into an auric to see if it's a better fit than the powersword

[spark helm]

It can work in aurics. Just gotta stay on point with some things in the heat if the moment. Recognize your habits with power sword and drop the ones incompatible with the shovel

[tall torrent]

The biggest bad habit u can have with power sword is assuming that u can actually dps check every single scenario the game throws at u

[restive mountain]

Aye muscle up, we got games to run when I get home

[tall torrent]

I got assignments & quizzes

Also u shud try duckov

I put like 80hrs into that game alrdy lol

So good

[dry cloak]

im playing lords of the fallen with a friend right now

its really fun