veteran-class

[tribal dawn]

I wouldn't know. I haven't played in 6 months xD

Fatshark likes to reset/change the skill trees everytime I take a break

which I suppose is good.

[hollow ibex]

this is the first vet rework in a very long time lol

[tribal dawn]

Eh, either way.

[red portal]

Hellbore with exe stance and marksman focus can give EK psyker a run for it's money with the right circumstances

I just want rot armour out of rotation so I can run it in havocs

[void dragon]

full sniper vet with helbore cleaning a horde of reapers and plasma gooner feels so good

[wild vortex]

idk why every Havoc cycle has at least a couple of ABSOLUTELY FUCKASS modifiers

that literally everyone hates

but they're there

[red portal]

Bring back blight( I want the masses to stop playing havoc collectively for a few weeks.)

[tribal dawn]

Good to see that my worries of the helbore were for naught.

I always liked playing snoipeh

[tepid otter]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-tf2-waiting-piss-gif-27404794

[meager echo]

I hate blight with a passion.

[red portal]

So does literally everyone

[tribal dawn]

Haven't tried Havoc yet. Sounds like that's a good thing xd

[dusty sapphire]

Fr, all my friends love the emperor

[dusty sapphire]

The havoc fits are great

[tribal dawn]

I know, I want them so bad

[dusty sapphire]

The havoc teammates are not

[red portal]

Havoc is fun as hell, the modifiers that show up. Not so much

[meager echo]

Tox gas is also big no for me.

[dusty sapphire]

I had some good runs with some havoc friends while i was doing my grind

[meager echo]

Why the hell is that even a thing.

[red portal]

Also party finder teammates 🤮

[tribal dawn]

Fatshark be like "how do we make this the absolute shittiest experience ever"

[tame lodge]

Tox gas is fine

[dusty sapphire]

They were chill even after we lost liter every single time trying to go from havoc 24 to 25

[red portal]

Lights out

[tame lodge]

[dusty sapphire]

Said the arbites

[tame lodge]

Specially mission on gas zones

[red portal]

Imagine if you could have 2 environmental modifiers

[tame lodge]

Nope

[tribal dawn]

nothing against Fatshark, I love the 'Tide games

[tame lodge]

Arby's is mid

My holy faith

[red portal]

Lights out + tox gas when?

[tame lodge]

Will ward corruption

[dusty sapphire]

Arby's what is mid?

[tame lodge]

Arby's

[tame lodge]

Legit easier map ever

[dusty sapphire]

Yeah there are better places to eat

[tame lodge]

No ranged enemy

[red portal]

I don't care I just want to see.

[tribal dawn]

I'd rather eat Five Guys than Arby's.

[tame lodge]

The you get one of those idle hordes

And they all get gassed

3 times the mass

[dusty sapphire]

Me too. Man i love five guys

[tame lodge]

[tribal dawn]

Walk in, get a giant bag of fries for 5 bucks and leave.

[dusty sapphire]

~~oh you mean the restaurant ~~ /s

[meager echo]

I cheese light out with Nvidia game overlay.
Just turn gamma to max and shadow to min

[willow prairie]

Skill issue

[wild vortex]

Lights out is absolutely toxic and no one can convince me otherwise

[red portal]

Let's fuck over specifically people on shit monitors

[dusty sapphire]

I make lights out harder by turning on every light in my room. We are not the same

[meager echo]

The foggy one is harder than light out, you cant cheese it.

[red portal]

I honestly don't find vent purge that bad

[void dragon]

what i feel is the issue is that our stupid guns dont have lanterns build in all of them, screw the "spooky" vibe, its not spooky its annoying to not have functional lanterns in the frigging 41th millenium

[red portal]

Just spam tag

[void dragon]

this could be said for many other scenarios, people oddly hates to ping enemies

[red portal]

Nothing frustrates me more then someone complaining about bombers and not tagging them.

Like bro.

They would be dead if I knew were they were.

[tribal dawn]

looks away in modded game shame

..I can put a flashlight on all my guns...

[void dragon]

as per usual, a mod does what ObeseFish should've done ages ago

[red portal]

You telling me headlamps that don't glow at negative 10 lumens don't exist.

[meager echo]

Why can the rejects have a separate flash light

[dusty sapphire]

More like fatshart

[void dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-thank-you-gif-4688221

[void dragon]

le MorbidlyobeseShrimp

[tribal dawn]

You're telling me the bionic eye I have doesn't have a target finder.

[dusty sapphire]

Why don't they add a ratling sniper as a playable character

[void dragon]

it does, but you have to mark enemies manualy

[dusty sapphire]

[void dragon]

because the Felinid class that will ABSOLUTELY come SOON (TM) will eat the ratling

[dusty sapphire]

Its never coming pal

[void dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-i-can-dream-cant-i-toy-story-gif-14501128

also shut up

[dusty sapphire]

Thats mean. Apologize

[tribal dawn]

I remember when I first started learning about 40k stuff, I thought the ratlings were referring to the 40k Fantasy rats.

[void dragon]

ok i forgive you

[dusty sapphire]

[dusty sapphire]

Hobbits with guns

[tribal dawn]

Yeah. The discovery was disappointing.

[dusty sapphire]

Whats next? Elves with guns? Orcs with guns?

[red portal]

Skavens have invaded 40k it's over

[tribal dawn]

Votun when.

[void dragon]

Dwarves with guns

[red portal]

Anyways it's time for me to sleep was fun

[tribal dawn]

I would love to see Skaven in the 40k timeline.

[void dragon]

have a good zzz mate, i should do the same

[dusty sapphire]

Nah i think i'm good without skaven in 40k

[void dragon]

sah-your-nana fellow rejects

[dusty sapphire]

Would make the end times less special

[tribal dawn]

That's fair.

That's prob why Games Workshop hasn't done it yet.

[dusty sapphire]

Oh to be able to play vermintide with people

Unfortunately i'm on console so its dead as hell

[tribal dawn]

Or because GW updates their lore every decade.

[tribal dawn]

That's a shame, honestly. The PC community is still pretty bumpin.

[dusty sapphire]

It's unfounded

Unfortunate even

It upsets me to no end

Rate the vet

[wild vortex]

Weapon customization mod always screws over my game

[tribal dawn]

I haven't had any problems. Have you tried disabling the randomization option?

[wild vortex]

I might try it again, just cause I also want sights on my recon lasgun

[tribal dawn]

Uhh, I think they changed the mod because I can't do that anymore.

[wild vortex]

[tribal dawn]

I might have to double check, but this is a convo for the mod server, not here c:

[dusty sapphire]

I should start leveling the power falchion

Which hot take was a lazy addition but thats just me

Its nifty

[tribal dawn]

I don't like the moveset.

[dusty sapphire]

I typically only use the power sword on vet because power swords are awesome

So long as it can kill crushers

[tribal dawn]

I like my 200% cleave/strength chainsword.

[tepid otter]

Which mark do you use

[tribal dawn]

Cadia Mk IV

[wild vortex]

Rampage + Bloodletter makes chword pretty versatile

[azure narwhal]

I personally run wrath + shred with my mk4

Bl is great

But ever since the changes

The damage leaves nothing more to be desired so

[hollow ibex]

shred's mandatory on chord tbh

[azure narwhal]

Yep, it pairs very well with vet's innate crit, very neat. Otherwise as for wrath, i felt the mk4 chord didn't have a very impressive level of horde clear, and it helped me balance things out

Handled itself on havoc well enough, managed to dig through the large pox hordes mixed in with shotgunners and the like

[willow prairie]

are we deadass calling it chord

[dapper coyote]

I called it Csword lmao

But we got 🇧 istol

[azure narwhal]

It was called chord so i called it chord

Normally id say csword too

Chord is pretty funny though

[hollow ibex]

i've always called it chord lol

[azure narwhal]

Guitar chords

[thin stone]

https://youtu.be/lHczGREk_bM?si=f2ciBr3kP4goH6kQ

How's this build?

I dislike the lack of shock-trooper on a las pistol personally

[tame lodge]

Yeah

This baby revs in G

Well

It definitely shreds

[blissful stump]

running it with the bolt gun and very minor modifications and im enjoying it

[frank basin]

[meager echo]

the event is so much fun right now.

[near plover]

Query: Sustained fire "+14% damage on second, third and fourth shots in a salvo". Does that mean the 5th shot is just regular?

[misty minnow]

Salvo is what happens in a burst

[calm shard]

yes until you stop shooting then it resets after about half a second

it is literally only useful on the Arbites Exterminator Shotguns and nothing else

[misty minnow]

Like if you have auto your first 4 rounds in your trigger hold

[willow prairie]

you have to wait until the recoil fully reset

so it not like you can just spam 4 round burst over and over

[near plover]

Well, I think that can go in the bin then. TY.

[tropic halo]

Opening salvo is included on other weapons?

Or just for heavy Stubber on ogryn

[dry cloak]

Vigilant autoguns also have it

Infantry lasguns i think so?

Yeah those 3 erapon families have it

Heavy stubber vigi and ilas

[static radish]

i hate recon lasgun vets

they eat more ammo than food i bet

thank fuck my lasgun has like,....900 ammo

[calm shard]

recon lasgun has like 1000

[static radish]

i meant my infantry lasgun sorry

i use the MK VII (which after the mod yeah feels great)

with more ammo so more bullets

[calm shard]

except that ammo count is FAKE

and LYING

because lasguns consume more than 1 ammo per shot

(except for the recon lasguns)

[cobalt sparrow]

Which are the good helbore perks/blessings? I haven’t used this gun since the beta lmao

[calm shard]

depends on the variant

IIIa and IV use Surgical+Weight of Fire

Carapace/Unyielding for IV, And I think Unarmored/Unyielding for IIIa?

I basically exclusively use the Mk IV so bit shaky on what the others use

[cobalt sparrow]

I’ll give it a go with your suggestions for now and mess with other combos later, thanks

[static radish]

YEEEEES

not using the helbore but

infantry las works well enough

[calm shard]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/496 would this help

I don't use this myself

But it probably helps with the hand strain using them

[static radish]

yknow what

you're absolutely fucking right

[unreal nova]

Tins should be enough though?

Then again, I run VIc.

[static radish]

for them? hell no they take everything

[heavy rover]

At the very least, surgical. Everything else is pretty much down to preference and what you want to prioritize.

For me, I run the mk III as surgical and armourbane with carapace and unyielding.

Maniac is also a good option

But if you want something hilarious, the mk V with weight of fire shoots faster than an infantry las

[unreal nova]

Guess is the player. I only do that if left behind alone or everyone is white.

[hallow drift]

"Everything else is down to preference" We do be out here

Having basically infinite ammo because every shot is a crit is pretty hilarious

[static radish]

huh

completed a mission with the helbore

game gives me another one thats actually upgraded

[serene bough]

I've been trying hotshot + surgical

Shotgunner conga lines make it easy to get several heatshots in one go

[pseudo fiber]

Can confirm myself makes using them much more enjoyable

[rugged kraken]

bro im just tryna do these havoc missions, haven't been on this game in a while and every group i try to join just declines

[azure narwhal]

Well, depends on how you're looking. Most people check for titles and insignias, alongside mods that can check your builds

That is the reality of party finder

[calm shard]

mostly titles and insignias

[azure narwhal]

Yep

[calm shard]

I don't think the number of people using mods to build shame people is that high

Just people who only accept true survivors/people who already have a hav 40 clear

[azure narwhal]

Tbh builds say the most imo but i don't use those either, mostly because i'm lazy.

[calm shard]

On their havoc like...26 missions

For some reason

[sudden cedar]

Even those who have a H40 clear can be completely clueless

[rugged kraken]

wait wait wait, the havoc lvl is additional to the lvl 30 like if i'm lvl 30 and haven't done any hav i shouldn't be trying to join the 27-40 missions

[sudden cedar]

That is not how it works.

[rugged kraken]

im just genuinely clueless

[calm shard]

once you clear a havoc the default behavior is it replaces your level symbol with your highest havoc clear iirc

[sudden cedar]

Your Level Cap is 30. Baseline. The number you might see is the Havoc Assignment Rank, showing the highest cleared Havoc Level.

[calm shard]

doesn't change anything mechanically

it just displays it

[sudden cedar]

Once you have completed one Havoc Mission, that Rank will be shown instead of your level for others.

[rugged kraken]

ohhhhhhhh

[sudden cedar]

There is no difference in, say, character power

You don't gain anything from it really.

[calm shard]

I gain immense shame from dying in aurics to random bullshit with my funny havoc 40 badge

Does that count?

[rugged kraken]

learning has occurred much appreciated

[sudden cedar]

If you are ashamed of doing mistakes, that is your thing.

[meager echo]

True survivor mean nothing, the good one is pox breaker, truelvl 500+ or the 100 matches insignia.

[calm shard]

okay try telling party finder goobers that

[meager echo]

I have all of them, true survivor mean nothing in my sv at least.

[sudden cedar]

Actions speak louder than words.

[meager echo]

It's sad that most usually don't even have the chance to prove themselves. The demoting mechanic make people gate keeping havoc

[sudden cedar]

I am inclined to agree. Now that i think about it.

What could be a decent idea is that you can "freeze" your Havoc Assignment so you can run it over and over again on that level.

You will not demote on failure, but also not rank up on success.

That way you could practice and have fun, without the risk of demoting.

[meager echo]

we have to take a step back and remove the demoting systems. Yes, it will make your achievements less satisfying. But it will make the game less toxic, people will no longer take loss so serious -> people will enjoy playing less optimal load out and have fun.

[sudden cedar]

I disagree with the removal of demotion entirely. I think what i proposed achieves the same thing.

In my opinion, the risk of demotion is also a risk of failure and being able to accept said failure is a good thing to have.

[slow spade]

I think the average player should just get better UwU

[sudden cedar]

(duh)

[slow spade]

Put Rotten Armor in Uprising

[meager echo]

Then maybe make it less punishing than right now is good enough in my opinion.

[hallow drift]

Havoc titles are just ASS 2.0

Poxbreaker or bust

[sudden cedar]

Even a complete idiot can get Poxbreaker. It might take them a lot longer, but he can achieve that.

[hallow drift]

True

[meager echo]

poxbreaker ~ 1000hours+ very hard to run into bad one.

[sudden cedar]

After all, it is "just" 1 Million kills.

[hallow drift]

They do exist. The worst players I've ever seen have been level 1000+

[sudden cedar]

Oh, i have seen plenty bad Poxbreakers.

[slow spade]

Poxbreaker is at least "experienced"

ASS can be farmed

[sudden cedar]

After all, you could theoretically farm those kills in the lowest difficulty.

And never learn from it because, well, it is the lowest difficulty.

[slow spade]

Yeah but you're only getting like 1000 kills then

[sudden cedar]

Yes.

[slow spade]

So they'll be like a 2000 hour player

[sudden cedar]

I never said it would be a fast way to do so.

[slow spade]

Would be funny to see though

[meager echo]

Tbh the best way is to just grind to 30 then start apply h40. Most h40 lobbies are chill af, if you have reasonable build they will let u in. They lose nothing if it go wrong.
I've got my havoc forge that way. Then grind my way up to 40.

[slow spade]

Just because of the weekly chest I agree

So much diamantine

[unreal nova]

Unless you legit afk half the run.

[meager echo]

h30 to h39 lobbies are the most try hard lobbies.

[unreal nova]

We got a vet that did just that.

Spent half the run standing still.

[meager echo]

fortunately i've never run into anyone like that, I played with people who flamed a lot, but they were actually trying to win, no inting or trolling behavior.

[hallow drift]

HOly fuck

Level 898 plasma slave

[unreal nova]

Can work, but can also end up throwing worse in sense.

[unreal nova]

Isn't it normal for havoc?

[hallow drift]

IT'S AURIC QP

Im straight snoozing between him and the psyker

Is bedtime

[cobalt sparrow]

am i tripping or are the missions with the modifier dark af today

[dry cloak]

here mate

we get inferno modifier on them

[meager echo]

I find the event is plenty fun, they spawn a shit tons of mutis and bulwarks

[tame lodge]

Can't wait to play infinite cleave +extra ammo plasma

And see that nothing happens

Because it's plasma

[dry cloak]

go play graia brauto or something

or magdump some bolters into hordes

[serene bough]

I wonder if this event is a teaser for a chaos wastes type mode

[unreal nova]

Recon memes.

[tall torrent]

You’re expecting too much from the studio that just released 2 half baked weapons after promising them 10 months in advance

[meager echo]

Please be something good

[tall torrent]

Expecting too much

[dry cloak]

lower your expectation now

[serene bough]

Wouldn't expect this year

Maybe another 2 years

[tall torrent]

December will prob just be new weapons/map

[tame lodge]

Waging on blessing

All in

Chat chat chat

[meager echo]

can we expect new classes ?

[tame lodge]

Infinite cleave Helbore

Now's the time

For the long las fantasy

[serene bough]

In addition to weapons/map im guessing further developments to story

[tall torrent]

Nah

[serene bough]

Either more mortis trial echos or story progression from dark communion

[tall torrent]

New map would prob be that

Advancing the story

[serene bough]

Yes true

I actually do enjoy darktides story to an extent

[sudden cedar]

Wolfer loosing his mind is funny, yes.

[tame lodge]

Fym nah

😭

[unreal nova]

To be fair, they did get a popular writer of books on it.

We are just playing the MCs of his latest story.

[tall torrent]

It’s not the same thing

[tame lodge]

It's close enough

Scab Sniper roleplay

Shoot through everything

With a big strong laser

[tall torrent]

Pretty sure longlas in lore don’t need to spend time to charge up shots

[unreal nova]

So modded hellbore where it autocharges for you?

[pseudo fiber]

Maybe in a few years

[tall torrent]

No, it just wouldn’t need to charge in the first place

[tame lodge]

It's always strong laser

[calm shard]

longlas comes out

the medium variant does helbore IV damage

heavy variant one shots a plague ogryn

[serene bough]

Lascannon when

[unreal nova]

Oh, I can see the balance issues.

[calm shard]

should have been given to ogryn instead of single heavy stubber

could have been statistically identical

[serene bough]

Are ogryn lorewise capable of las weapons

[tall torrent]

Anything u can put on a tank turret is basically free game

[fair shale]

Uhhh, in the FFG Only War tabletop Gun Lugger could get Las training for multi lasers

[serene bough]

Cool

[fair shale]

Take however canon this is with a pinch of salt tho

[serene bough]

Lets give the big man a lascannon

[fair shale]

Playing SM1 mp in darktide lmfao

[tall torrent]

There is argument against ogryn using las cannon because they lack the motor skills and precision to operate it

But they already get heavy stubber so it’s like, lol

[fair shale]

They get Autocannons so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sudden cedar]

Tell me.. how is the ogryn holding down the trigger on one of those rapid fire guns different to a veteran holding down the trigger on a recon lasgun?

[atomic void]

vet can aim and the ogryn goes ping bong wahoo

[sudden cedar]

I feel like the Recon Veterans just spray and pray.

[atomic void]

im pretty sure the only reason why most ogryn ranged weapons in this game feel weird to use is because they are trying to emulate ogryns using them in a funny way

[sudden cedar]

They are Ogryn proof weapons.

Simple but sturdy, thus minimizing the damage the weapon could take when used in Melee Combat

[unreal nova]

Uhhh... shocktrooper+survivalist.

[sudden cedar]

Yeah but they both just hold down the trigger.

[umbral scaffold]

hey all, is there an up to date infiltration build for vet? perhaps running with combat knife and Brauto?

[sudden cedar]

Thus, an Ogryn could use a las cannon too.

[unreal nova]

I hit exe stance!

[sudden cedar]

Go whine about Cadia somewhere else.

[fair shale]

Lemme go find the OW Og equipment list rq

[unreal nova]

Everyone can enjoy the jumpscare of 50 shootery things with me.

[tall torrent]

No

[serene bough]

Im not that strict with lore accuracy in this game with weapons considering a single guardsman can solo BoN and the Spawn with a dirty prison shank

[tall torrent]

Most of it just don’t make sense actually

There’s no reason that ripper guns have this weird pre-fire delay when they’re not mechanically charging up to fire

[unreal nova]

You mean 1x recon lasgun vs pogryn. Recon wins.

[tall torrent]

There’s no lore reason any ogryn gun should have high recoil

[unreal nova]

Lorewise, you would have an entire platoon or so firing barely scratching one.

[tall torrent]

But ripper and heavy stubber don’t shoot straight

[atomic void]

funny headcannon destroyed

[serene bough]

The more you think about the combat the less sense it makes

One dude with any melee weapon hacking through literal thousands of enemies with no fatigue and surviving

[tame lodge]

I mean
They are fun to shoot

And ogryns have fun shooting

And I definitely run out of ammo in 2 minutes

So yeah the whole limiting the gun so Ogryn doesn't shoot all ammo is definitely real

[serene bough]

Clearly ogryn needs to dual wield rippers

[unreal nova]

True. Also dodging light.

[static radish]

Man

Krieg build is actually fun

[fair shale]

Tbh they made up a lot for DT

Base book OW

I think Gun Luggers get more training to have more opened up for them like access to las

[serene bough]

Also true, not to mention face taking several lasgun volleys which are known for blowing off limbs and punching holes in concrete

[umbral scaffold]

anyone know of a good infiltrate/brauto build since the new patch? My old build was wiped and i honestly forgot the talents i even chose!

[calm shard]

you are suggesting using the worst vet ability, with the worst ranged weapon in the game

"good" is not the floor here

[tame lodge]

I'm just going to say

Brauto and good doesn't go together

But sure

[umbral scaffold]

Im open to other suggestions!

[dry cloak]

but brauto and fun do

[thin stone]

Power Sword 6 + Recon Lasgun

OR

Laspistol + Shovel Mk 1?

[dry cloak]

have ball and go laspitol route

[umbral scaffold]

my main build is Power sword and recon, and its lethal

[thin stone]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[serene bough]

Ps6+recon if youre looking for more meta build

[umbral scaffold]

run kraks and laugh

[thin stone]

What if I want a build where I don't have to charge my melee every 3 swings for it to be effective?

[unreal nova]

Faith is my shield indeed, lmao.

[narrow widget]

brauto
good

[umbral scaffold]

Look, i get that it's not meta. I understand that. I just like to play around with non-meta weapons and have fun!

[tame lodge]

Can sub any grenade

[thin stone]

What in the skibidi toilet is this

[tall torrent]

More durable than a space marine

[tame lodge]

Yeah

[narrow widget]

not even that it's nonmeta it literally can't shoot straight

[thin stone]

What about this

[narrow widget]

you could make a case for exe stance brauto or on zealot with dance of death since those reduce spread but

[tame lodge]

Then you just settle for Rashad or a worse weapon

[thin stone]

Dafuq you mean "worse weapon"

Shovel is great

[tame lodge]

Whatever makes you happy I guess

[serene bough]

Shovel is the best weapon because it makes the best sound effect

Checkmate

[umbral scaffold]

In the end, unless you're pushing Havoc and what not, i think any build/weapon does pretty godo

[thin stone]

Skill issue

[tame lodge]

Weak Aura

[thin stone]

Shovel + Laspistol can survive Havoc 40

[tame lodge]

Strong Aura everything works everywhere

[umbral scaffold]

?

[tame lodge]

Simply have the skills

[serene bough]

Wait until next year when they release a new vet weapon or pick up Rashad

[narrow widget]

[tame lodge]

Or Speedrun everything

[thin stone]

What about shovel

Shovel Mk 1 is pretty good

@tall torrent told me

[serene bough]

Funny bonk sounds but otherwise I wouldn't bring to H40

[thin stone]

What perks and blessings are you using?

[tall torrent]

I didn’t

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-wolf-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-wolf-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-pick-it-up-sword-fight-gif-27423366

[serene bough]

It has uncanny strikes which is good but its still meh

[tame lodge]

My kin on the imperium

That is the most false statement

[serene bough]

Actually, being "meh" while having access to uncanny speaks volumes about the weapon

[tame lodge]

I have ever seen

Lmfao

[thin stone]

Fuck it I'll use Recon + PS6

RIP choice and freedom

[tame lodge]

Hey if you don't want Psword

Rashad

If you don't want Rashad

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brauto new meta @tall torrent told me

[thin stone]

What about tac axe

[tame lodge]

Tactical Axe

7

[thin stone]

It's good right?

Even for havoc 40

[tame lodge]

I mean
I have my gripes with it

[thin stone]

Bruh

[calm shard]

yeah it's good in havoc 40

[tame lodge]

So I will not be able to answer that

[calm shard]

might suffer a bit into rotten armor because it's not great into carapace

[tame lodge]

Gotta keep the principle you know

[thin stone]

Oof

[tame lodge]

Ask someone else

[thin stone]

Power Sword Mk6 it is

I just don't like charging every 3 swings

[tall torrent]

Tac axe is tolerable vs carapace

[thin stone]

Albeit those 3 swings make you feel good

[tall torrent]

1.8~2k dps vs crusher

[tall torrent]

Too bad power sword is the best melee in the game

[thin stone]

What grenade is best on havoc? Shredder, krak or smoke?

[tall torrent]

All have their uses

[thin stone]

What are they?

Krak is for carapace crushers

[thin stone]

Smoke is for gunners

[calm shard]

well yeah but you see that's "good" dps into carapace

[thin stone]

What about shredder?

[tame lodge]

I wish it was good

[calm shard]

not power sword's "comically overpowered" into carapace

and rotten armor clearly calls for the latter

[tall torrent]

Mauler & rager

[thin stone]

Ayo

Do you need to pick 100% + duration with smoke?

And do you need trench fighter drill + serrated edge with PS6?

What about Field improv?

[calm shard]

You don't need to but why the hell wouldn't you

double smoke duration is wild

[tall torrent]

No

[tall torrent]

No but you should

[thin stone]

Ok

What about Field improv

[tall torrent]

Is this a real question

[tame lodge]

Not great not terrible

[thin stone]

Yes

[calm shard]

It's an okay skill with inconsistent value that the community for some reason thinks is the best skill in the entire game

[tall torrent]

Are u like completely unable to pick any single talent on vet tree

[thin stone]

I am able to pick some

I picked shock trooper

With my recon lasgun

[calm shard]

But if your weapon doesn't want Serrated Blade, or you don't even bother getting Trench Fighter you have little choice in the matter

[tame lodge]

Just go trench fighter serrated

[thin stone]

Ok I'll skip field improv

[tame lodge]

Psword can still make use of those

And there's not a lot of good options up there

[heavy rover]

Also useful for plasma twin. Breaks the AI, stops mine deployment and the boss ends up standing still

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when are they gonna buff fire team please fat shark 💔 💔

[tall torrent]

Take serrated if u already take trench fighter and ur melee actually benefits from serrated

Otherwise pick field improv

This is like 1+1=2 kind of thing idk why it’s so hard to understand

[heavy rover]

For trench fighter, I'd say no. Serrated edge can be useful if you're running Sunder on the power sword. Use all that cleave to your advantage

[sturdy crescent]

I'm having good time with stealth build I've made can somebody show me meta stealth I'm curious if I have similar build with it

[thin stone]

Confirmed kill or Out for Blood?

[tall torrent]

CK

[thin stone]

ok thanks

[umbral scaffold]

I’ve been trying to get long bomb with the shrapnel nade, I keep hitting the hordes but what distance exactly do I have to be so it doesn’t bounce?

[calm shard]

stealth isn't meta

[sturdy crescent]

Meta for stealth

[calm shard]

It can be fun in aurics because heheheeh 30% damage

[tall torrent]

~42m

[umbral scaffold]

Plus a good mission to get it, I know it’s either the sand daemon or stealing the ammo.

[calm shard]

At MINIMUM 20 meters

[umbral scaffold]

It’s so tedious 💀

[calm shard]

default FoV if you can see the very top of the heretics heads looking up you tap throw it

[tall torrent]

Magistrati oubliette
Long side catwalk before first drop

[calm shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1397384963984457888/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.07.22_-_20.06.16.11.DVR.mp4?ex=68fb7a69&is=68fa28e9&hm=497cc306069682f915e84ff9bbf02464a015d7a64b78f4e068988a8490ec17eb&

[umbral scaffold]

I’ll probably just run a private match with someone, random lobby’s been good I just would like to get the most tedious penance done.

After that it’s 100 specialist kills at 30 meters, which it’s stupid easy

[narrow widget]

just chuck a nade really high when a horde spawns in an open area

[umbral scaffold]

like, above my head?

[narrow widget]

like 70 degree angle like gun psyker did in the video

[tall torrent]

Goal is to airburst yea

[red portal]

Doing it straight up will have it hit the ground too early

[calm shard]

also use bolt pistol with lethal proximity for bigger radius

grenade tinkerer on talent tree too

[umbral scaffold]

oh I see, and if it's a horde of poxwalkers they'll just become liquid

[calm shard]

yeah

[umbral scaffold]

thank you 🫡

[orchid hemlock]

Stealth tbh I feel is much better on Zealot ATM

Stealth on Vet is a bit restrictive since Vet doesn't get the insane damage buffs from the backstabs like Zealot,

So you kinda only use it for objective control or picking people up

It used to be pretty funny when the CDR node wasn't percentage based

Stealth in absolute isolation is actually one of the worst abilities in the game

[sturdy crescent]

I just like the way loose cannon speaking while use ability

I feel like it's literally him

[orchid hemlock]

That's fine but you did specifically ask for "meta"

[sturdy crescent]

curious

[calm shard]

Or outside of isolation in havoc

stealth abilities are straight throwing in havoc

[orchid hemlock]

Even in havoc the value isn't the stealth itself, it's the one shotting bosses

[calm shard]

you WILL get your teammates killed if you use them

[orchid hemlock]

Yeah stealth in this game makes almost no sense

I think Vermintide did a much better job with it

Because it is used as a positioning tool

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good if it's the smyker

waste 1 less barrel

[orchid hemlock]

I actually did a test the other day using stealth

I let a mutant spawn and the moment he locks onto me I stealth, and then sit back

I watch to see who in my team will actually turn around and do something about him 💀

[midnight wyvern]

ive seen a few stealth zealots in havoc and I've yet to see anything other than a captain getting one shot

crimes against zealot lore

had so many people coping in another server that they could 1 shot twins

(you can't they're health capped)

[tall torrent]

I think shroudfield ok but most people not good at it

Feel like understanding enemy aggro and slotting system should be basic knowledge for these so-called “havoc players” but alas

[umbral scaffold]

I feel stealth can be amazing, but it’s def a more niche ability compared to vet shout. That said, I’ve found success running stealth on vet. I usually run taxe or CK, with recon or whatever really for ranged.

I typically use it to get behind enemy gun lines/flank enemies . It works amazingly well, but you really gotta be aware of staying close to the group. Stealth is so punishing if you stray too far

And of course picking up downed group members. It can save runs!

[midnight wyvern]

I feel like that is said by stealth players alot

but they, alot of the time don't get that them being on stealth doesn't really help their team living

so your "clutch moment" only exists because of you

not saying thats this situation but it is alot of the time

lol

[umbral scaffold]

Oh I agree with that. Shout vet is my main build and I find it much better for the group

[midnight wyvern]

dealt with too many stealth players with egos about them that they saved runs

[umbral scaffold]

Having on demand toughness being maxed out is much more valuable

[midnight wyvern]

I barely felt the nerf to the duration of the gold tbh

[red portal]

Stealth is nice for sneaking objectives that's about it.

And revives.

[unreal nova]

Bet you they can't without.

[umbral scaffold]

I’m just saying it can be viable. But I don’t know if I’d run it past auric

[hollow ibex]

stealth is mostly for funny memes

it's not in a good spot rn

[midnight wyvern]

I've seen alot of zealots try to be funny with hammer and ive only seen 2 make it worth taking over a vet

2/like 30 something bonkers

[umbral scaffold]

That’s the thing really. I have plenty of meta/strong builds that are great! Sometimes I just wanna do off the wall non-meta builds to see what works and what I can get away with

[midnight wyvern]

could be worse odds but I also don't let them play that shit that often lol

[red portal]

A shit ton of them just don't deal with monstrosities fast enough even though they brought the boss killer build.

[midnight wyvern]

exactly

[unreal nova]

Or they wiff the one shot.

[midnight wyvern]

people yap on and on about stealths kill potential and then they don't kill bosses

[red portal]

Like drop what you are doing and bonk the chaos spawn ffs.

[midnight wyvern]

when I could've just taken vet and killed it in 2 seconds

you have to beat my TTK or you're not worth it

https://tenor.com/view/hazbik-mortal-combat-gif-3795006771601208806

[red portal]

2 seconds seems a bit low for havoc even with kraks and powersword it's more like 6 seconds of beating a punching bag.

[midnight wyvern]

bolter.

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah, I run a thammer zealot and I find vets now deal with crushers much better than I ever can. I actually just did a run with my zealot….powered thunder hammer and charge with fury of the faithful still won’t put a crusher down in one hit. Takes 2 or 3 now

[red portal]

Ah

[umbral scaffold]

While a vet throws a krak and kills 2-3 in one blast

[red portal]

I got told to run smokes into rot armor once.

Let me tell you it was not worth

[midnight wyvern]

its not a bad idea if armour is covered, kraks are not mandatory

[unreal nova]

So, you turn off NOT Rodin if he spawns.

[midnight wyvern]

just really... really good value lol

I pretty much only bring them into rot nowadays

hell, if you've got decent CC, powersword does perfectly fine lol

[red portal]

We did end up getting overrun by armor and I wish I had anything else

[meager echo]

Smoke is for pubs run, in rotten armour runs, if you get fire grenade and have to move out of bubble, smoke is that safty net.

[midnight wyvern]

yes and no, smoke has so many uses its not funny

[serene bough]

I find it hard to run anything other than krak for rotten armor

[meager echo]

Usually i find that people can deal with melee enemies some what ok. They cant vs gunners.

[midnight wyvern]

I don't but kraks are good dopamine on rotten

[red portal]

I don't find gunners as bad as others do tbh.

[serene bough]

Rotten + garden is easily the most annoying combo

[midnight wyvern]

I haven't found myself touching shredders much if at all before the patch and that has continued into the rework lol

[red portal]

Stimms.

Stimms is way worse

[midnight wyvern]

rotten stims is gay

[calm shard]

double health rotten armor crushers hell the fuck yes

[meager echo]

If you play ogryn you will notice big different if your team dont run smoke or bubble.

[midnight wyvern]

stimms purple also gay

[meager echo]

You cant even do your job properly

[midnight wyvern]

blue anything with purple near them

ah yes

gameplay

[serene bough]

Simms are garbage too but a purple deathball of ragers/maulers/crushers is so cringe

[red portal]

Blue rotten crushers

You get like 7 of them in a row and suddenly nothing dies.

[serene bough]

Blue rotten crushers are just Fatsharks way of trolling

[midnight wyvern]

green crushers are funny too

[serene bough]

Idk how the blue stim in its current state made live

[midnight wyvern]

less aids but the panic when people do their usual combo into one and it doesn't care is great

[meager echo]

Blue ragers is the most cancer thing imo.

Insane dps, cant stop him without cooldown.

[red portal]

Blue dreg ragers I've found is worse than the scab ones

Have no idea why

[midnight wyvern]

the way the DR helps them is a bit different iirc

its why they can reach 100% DR with pox gas and blue stim

[meager echo]

I didnt know it was cancer because most my havoc run has taunt ogryn.

[midnight wyvern]

same with bulwarks iirc, but other things won't

[meager echo]

Then i saw blue ragers overwhelm my ogryn

Cant even help him

[red portal]

1 blue rager at a bad time can cause a wipe

[serene bough]

Yep

Truly awful

[midnight wyvern]

just have a charge zealot

[red portal]

We wiped a havoc 40 because I had a gunner line shooting at me and a blue rager showed up couldn't keep up my empathic evasion and died to gunners.

Yippie

Would have been able to survive just fine if I didn't have a blue rager in my face.

[serene bough]

Wonder when theyll patch blue stim

[red portal]

Blue stim is so overtuned it's not even funny.

I wonder if they'll bring rampaging back

Rampaging stimms with pox gas environment

[meager echo]

Also, people that don't help team mates grabbed by mutant have a special place in hell . Happen way too often in pubs.

[red portal]

[red portal]

Sometimes I can't help but if I'm close I will drop everything to try to kill the mutant early

Is a bit fucked when I don't have a insane single target DPS weapon though.

[serene bough]

Lately ive been saving my VoC casts for mutants

[midnight wyvern]

[serene bough]

Since I cant spam voc as easily

[red portal]

What do you mean shut it will totally be fun

Immortal lines of every enemy type

Or stimms pus hardened

[meager echo]

Mutant throw in havoc is guaranteed down most of the time

[red portal]

[midnight wyvern]

rampage pus hardened

no ranged

🤝

[red portal]

The mutant slam with my psyker build does about 5 damage to me total

I find that kind of insane ngl

But yeah the throws are deadly

[meager echo]

The slam is okay since they don't move you to an awkward position.

[red portal]

Mutant throws you into an overhead meant for an ally.

[midnight wyvern]

the slam comes after they move you lol

[red portal]

Unironically happened more than once.

I've had a mutant throw me into a pox burster that bounced me into another mutant that slammed me while another pox burster jumped on me

[meager echo]

[red portal]

Mutant deaths are so comical sometimes

[calm shard]

https://fximgur.com/a/OPVRepv

relevant clip

[red portal]

Wish I had it recorded

[meager echo]

[midnight wyvern]

I got grabbed by a dog mid air after a mutant throw

fucking rude

have also been sniper'd after a mutant throw mid air

also rude

[red portal]

I slide dodged off a slope and got sniper shot trough my slide cause the momentum put me in the air.

[meager echo]

Mutant + bomber/ flamer combo

[red portal]

Trapper flamer is also nasty

[meager echo]

That's why i prefer the ogryn take the rock over any blitz.

Any help is appreciated

[sudden cedar]

Rock over Boxex and Nukes?

[elder vessel]

DEADLIEST CLASS

LETS FUCKING GO

[midnight wyvern]

[meager echo]

New class ?

[gritty fable]

d'uh, they already gave us arbites, it would be new free trinket

[sudden cedar]

Speculations abound i would say.

[calm shard]

god the combat shotguns are so good on gun vet

[gritty fable]

just tried autopistol with ammo upgrade, man, I was shooting non stop all mission

[cobalt sparrow]

holy shi a roadmap

[narrow widget]

vet 3 confirmed when are we removing vet 🙏 🙏 🙏

[surreal rune]

new class?

i uh

what

what might they add

even

[narrow widget]

vet 3

[surreal rune]

true

[narrow widget]

unironically if it's ratling vet 3 probably wouldn't be that far off

[elder vessel]

Vet mains are better how did you know

Ignore my timer

[hollow ibex]

Hive ganger is my guess

[pseudo fiber]

water wet

[sudden cedar]

Not the Psyker? Weird.

What a surprise.

[narrow widget]

wow who expected that

[narrow widget]

yo can we nerf vet again please fart shart smh

[sudden cedar]

This amount of communication from Carcharodon Gargantua is suspicious.

[fair shale]

I think its simple weight of vet

Defo the most played class

[narrow widget]

they're going on summer break part 2

[sudden cedar]

In Winter

[narrow widget]

swinter

https://tenor.com/view/swinter-phineas-and-ferb-swinter-gif-27033255

[sudden cedar]

That is a thing in Dubai. They have an indoor.. uh..

Winter Sport Area

[tame lodge]

What the fuck is a purgatus

🗣️

(old name lol)

Same with tigrus mk2

[void dragon]

why is the dog petted so little? must fix ASAP

[tame lodge]

It's tigrus mk3 nowadays

[hollow ibex]

Ngl I didn’t even notice until you pointed it out

It’s still a purgatus to me 😠

[void dragon]

Fire staff is what i call it

[tame lodge]

Also Groaners as the deadliest enemies

That's hilarious

[sudden cedar]

I mean it makes sense.

They are usually the enemies that are being payed the least of attention and they just stab you when you are not looking.

Or its just people in lower difficulties being absolutely bad at the game

[void dragon]

i have got spanked by a random groaner that failed to sound melee cue, its quite easy to ignore those little buggers

buuuuuut im sure some players that just refuse to block also got murdered by them

[sudden cedar]

Deadliest Class: Veteran

shows an Arbitrator

Come on.

[void dragon]

even in cinematics the Arby remind us that he was the pay2vet for a while

[narrow widget]

they know arb is vet 2
this is foreshadowing for vet 3 in november

[sudden cedar]

Praise the Omnissiah.

[dapper coyote]

KYEWAAAAAHAHAHAGAGAHAHHHHHGGGGG,

I rolled 3 Csword

[calm shard]

veteran 2 now missing half the features

[dapper coyote]

All 3 had 60% dmg

Nice

Nice, very nice

[void dragon]

Executing:

Chantings_Omnissiah.exe

[dapper coyote]

Thank you brunt

[sudden cedar]

Brunt is missing.

[dapper coyote]

You collective hallucination in the ship

[sudden cedar]

We need a mission to find Brunt.

[dapper coyote]

Brunt is just a collective hallucination in the ship

[sudden cedar]

Saving Quartermaster Brunt

[void dragon]

The new event on the cuarentene map will be us looking for Brunt

[dapper coyote]

One person forgets it and he's fucking disappear

[narrow widget]

cuarentene

[dapper coyote]

But yea

3 60% Dmg Cswords

AHAHAHAHAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH

[void dragon]

quarantine, ok i mixed languajes

[sudden cedar]

The most petted cyber-mastiff has received 785 pets.

[dapper coyote]

ONE OF THEM HAVE 4% DMG RATING

[sudden cedar]

What a good boy.

[dapper coyote]

4%

[void dragon]

no 0%? meh

[dapper coyote]

Plays sea shanty

[sudden cedar]

Footfallen

[dapper coyote]

Also, for combat axes

What blessing should i pick?

[midnight wyvern]

bloodletter

and prob headtaco

[dapper coyote]

Its combat axes

Not Chain axes

[midnight wyvern]

and?

do it anyway

missread

headtaker/brutal momentum

[dapper coyote]

Serated perk be like

Also speaking of that rather odd perk

Do my special dmg also inflict bleed?

Nope

Nvm

[silver patrol]

i thought they did, but only the last hit

[dapper coyote]

Yes only the last hit is registered as bleed

[silver patrol]

would be kinda busted otherwise

[dapper coyote]

I thought i can meme maxxing with it and just bleed spam

"Here's 14 bleed and heres 2 more per hit, know bleed bitch"

Also remember when i said i have 69 bullets for my blue vrak IAG?

I miss calculated

Theres 72

[atomic wyvern]

any good vet guide builds out there atm with bound by duty out?

[dapper coyote]

72 rnd

[atomic wyvern]

lots of outdated bits atm

[dapper coyote]

Per mag

[hollow ibex]

HOTE guide in the pins is still somewhat up to date. We should get a new version soon tm

[dapper coyote]

Technically more than PPSH's drum mag lmao

[hollow ibex]

Until then just ask here

[atomic wyvern]

ah alr thats good to ask

probs gonna run classic krieger for a bit lol

[dapper coyote]

Also i would like to ask

Brittleness stuff

Does it also reduces bosses armor?

[calm shard]

they don't have any so technically yes

[tame lodge]

Short answer yes

[hollow ibex]

Brittleness doesn’t actually end up making huge difference against bosses tbh

It’s not bad but it doesn’t do as much as people expect

[midnight wyvern]

they have an armour type

carapace isn't technically armour

just flavour

[midnight wyvern]

limited options on some weapons, it can be some of the only sources of properly increasing their damage so definitely good on those

on others, better choices

if only pinning fire worked on bosses

other than burgle sack

[hollow ibex]

Yeah it’s fine. Some people just really overvalue it

[midnight wyvern]

see it alot on Purga and Flamer

when blaze away is right there

bolter should get dum dum

[serene bough]

New class?

[trim badger]

It works on burgle mouth too

[midnight wyvern]

broker

[midnight wyvern]

neat

still not gonna take

[trim badger]

I love me pinning fire on Zealot

[midnight wyvern]

big mc large sad you can't vaporize every boss in the game

smh

does 25% strength equal 25% damage?

[tame lodge]

And cleave and stagger

[trim badger]

It's also added multiplicatively on top of damage I think?

If I remember coreectly

So having 2 25% damage boost is worse than having 1 25% damage boost and 1 25% str boost

[midnight wyvern]

I know that

[trim badger]

As far as I remember

[midnight wyvern]

but for damage calc

bolter with pinning/shrimp would go so hard

[hollow ibex]

Yeah it’s 1:1

[midnight wyvern]

I hate burgles but not enough to kill them that hard

no red stim I'd do over 100k to them

[orchid hemlock]

WR FINALLY GETTING MECHANIVUS PRIEST?!?!!

[serene bough]

Maybe

Cant believe theyre announcing a new class so soon after arby

[atomic wyvern]

yeah we need another 2 years of no updates

builds character

[serene bough]

True

Wonder what it'll be

[atomic wyvern]

honestly would be nice to play mechanicus but

i dont wanna get my hopes up

[silver patrol]

i hope they keep up the pace

it's gotta be a techpriest

[atomic wyvern]

i mean it makes sense

im not really sure what they can add that we dont already have

that makes sense ofc

[silver patrol]

techpriest with multiple mechanical arms

and weapons

[midnight wyvern]

people thinking skitarii

[atomic wyvern]

gut feeling says it ISNT going to be a skitarii

hope im wrong

[silver patrol]

what about uhhh

[atomic wyvern]

seems too op for

[silver patrol]

those assassins

[serene bough]

May sound weird but I have an eldar feeling in my gut

[midnight wyvern]

we have a fucking arbites?

??

what you mean too op

[cobalt sparrow]

arbites are op compared to our rejects we had at launch lol

[atomic wyvern]

"taser that sends ogryn to its knees"

yeah im honestly not sure what they're doing with scaling tho

could be a fucking tau for all i know lmfao

[atomic wyvern]

ehhhh

[midnight wyvern]

railgun ult

[atomic wyvern]

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe but uhh

rannick and the other inquisitor guy

would not be pleased

[silver patrol]

ok listen

[midnight wyvern]

when are they

[atomic wyvern]

listening

[silver patrol]

it's going to be orc pirate mercenaries

[serene bough]

Its a left field pick but it could still work

[atomic wyvern]

i know its just

[serene bough]

Grendyl seems to have soemthing with eldar

[atomic wyvern]

why the fuck would an eldar guy have even

the tiniest interest with tertium

[atomic wyvern]

did hear sumth abt that

[midnight wyvern]

yeah the whole "eldar ships repeatedly being picked up on the edge of auspex range" thing from someones dialogue in mortis

maybe morrow

[serene bough]

Im just guessing it'll be something nobody is expecting

And eldar feels like the most gut feeling answer but who knows

Id hope its ad mech personally

[silver patrol]

at least we could get an actual sniper rifle that way

[atomic wyvern]

would like to shoot me some eldar

[atomic wyvern]

oh how i yearn for the snipers gun for veteran

🙏

[silver patrol]

imo i don't think it's eldar because they wouldn't be able to recycle most weapons for that

[atomic wyvern]

a skitarii kindaaaa makes sense (but its going to be weird to scale lmfao)

eldar i really doubt

you're going to have to be like

[midnight wyvern]

they managed it with arbites

lol

[atomic wyvern]

REALLY convincing with their character intro to make it make sense lmfao

yeah i know

its just the eldar im unsure abt

[midnight wyvern]

arbites in lore are fucked

compared to what we have which is a very smart ogryn, an interestingly devout zealot, a decently strong psyker and a veteran

granted, a good veteran but

[atomic wyvern]

i mean

i've seen plenty veterans fight like fucking scions

[silver patrol]

i mean, being a veteran for the imperial army is already like

[atomic wyvern]

(and i do so myself sometimes not to show off lmao)

[silver patrol]

a very big achievement

[atomic wyvern]

yeah lots of people really dont understand

[midnight wyvern]

one is even a cadian

[atomic wyvern]

the difference between regular guardman and veteran

[midnight wyvern]

which is

[atomic wyvern]

[silver patrol]

and the zealot might just be a sister of battle at this point

[midnight wyvern]

honorary brother of battle

[atomic wyvern]

i just hope they

dont go way over the top

🙏

[midnight wyvern]

I hope they do

speedrun new class to level 200 in a few weeks again

[orchid hemlock]

Cadians when Cadia

Cadia

Cadia

[midnight wyvern]

CANADA STANDS

[heavy rover]

FUCK YEAH EH

[silver patrol]

they are going to recycle 70% of the weapons, both melee and ranged, and they won't use people that aren't humanoids and about the size of humans or ogryns, so i don't think they will go over the top

[midnight wyvern]

imagine if whatever class it was got Psword

[atomic wyvern]

hope they add psycho warriors from space king

[midnight wyvern]

the what what from what?

[atomic wyvern]

have you not watched space king

[midnight wyvern]

they look like the dudes from doctor who

[orchid hemlock]

Never ask a women her age

Never ask a man his salary

And never EVER

Ask a Canadian what is buried under the church schools 💀

[atomic wyvern]

go watch space king bro its peak 😭

[midnight wyvern]

cadians are just canada but the warcrime parts

[heavy rover]

Jesus that last one is a deep cut

[atomic wyvern]

any good recon lasgun builds out there atm?

[midnight wyvern]

its on the list

[midnight wyvern]

no

[atomic wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/flashgitz-be-positive-space-king-space-king-flashgitz-space-king-b-positive-gif-4911992525306862250

[midnight wyvern]

hope this helps!

[atomic wyvern]

gonna tweak 😔

[orchid hemlock]

People think Canadians are nice and shit, but when you start talking about what is north of this they start to froth at the mouth:

[midnight wyvern]

I wanna try a recon build in the event when we have inf ranged cleave

Canadians are only nice to make up for the unspeakable crimes

[atomic wyvern]

canadia stands

[heavy rover]

Ah, you mean the climate change insurance

[orchid hemlock]

Uh sure 👍

[silver patrol]

i tried an infantry autogun build (exe stance with marksman's focus) and it was pretty dope

i imagine recon would be about the same

[midnight wyvern]

I was running it down with melee psyker

[silver patrol]

i basically never switch to melee

[tame lodge]

Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down

😭

Oh no wait

[silver patrol]

even when surrounded

[tame lodge]

I see it

[midnight wyvern]

you know what I mean

the fuckin

thick neck dudes

ill find em

Sontarans

[tame lodge]

Yeah

Staal the undefeated

[tame lodge]

Yeah

[unreal nova]

Recon goes keystoneless.

Lul.

[silver patrol]

i dunno, i think you should go with a keystone for this event, for the memes

[unreal nova]

Nu. I go lock and load, because funni.