although no redirect fire lol
#veteran-class
sonic kayak
Your face is comfy 
hollow ibex
Yeah honestly you are lol
sullen scarab
Your face is comfy <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Thank you
steel barn
At least imo. I enjoy vet stealth more
spark helm
Well yeah I dont doubt they're both good
What have you been working with that makes you enjoy it so much?
hybrid plover
Your face is comfy <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Darktide Veteran Class Chat After Hours
sharp epoch
But I just feel like Vet stealth is better
dude vet stealth is bad
spark helm
I'd definitely say that shroudfield is leagues better, but I am an absolute stealth gameplay enioyer.
steel barn
What have you been working with that makes you enjoy it so much?
I mostly run it as a support build to go revive people in tight spots and do objectives like auspex scans, data interrogator stuff
Dueling Sword + Recon Lasgun for weapon setup
spark helm
So infiltrate and shroudfield are always on the menu.
sharp epoch
both the buffs and the cooldown like a 60 second cooldown is a joke
spark helm
I mostly run it as a support build to go revive people in tight spots and do obj...
Mind if I see?
steel barn
both the buffs and the cooldown like a 60 second cooldown is a joke
When I have 2 charges, it's not as bad
steel barn
Mind if I see?
I'll send the build I use, 1 sec
I changed the +1 wound curio for a stamina one
I typically don't need an extra wound
sharp epoch
When I have 2 charges, it's not as bad
Stealth zealot can get their ability 4x faster than a stealth vet the comparison is unreal
steel barn
Yeah idc, stealth vet more fun
hybrid plover
I typically don't need an extra wound
You never do
steel barn
sharp epoch
But I just feel like Vet stealth is better
I'm responding to this, it's objectively worse idc if its more fun
hollow ibex
don't get me wrong
stealth vet is very fun
but it absolutely does not compare to zealot stealth lol
hybrid plover
Vet stealth does have one pretty good thing going for it
That suppression on leaving stealth is real nice.
hybrid plover
the only thing stealth vet has going for it is b2 bomber cosplaying
And therefore it is better.
spark helm
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fff3d3d-40e5-44e2-8e5d-7cb59d1196f0/ne...
Definitely an interesting setup for infiltrate. No shade, just saying.
The world can always use more infiltrate vets. Hopefully some updates come that make it even sweeter for you. Do you have other build ideas you'd ever want to consider with infiltrate?
steel barn
Not sure yet, I just like doing my lil support thing
spark helm
Not sure yet, I just like doing my lil support thing
Cool and hell yeah good for you. That sirosky person's stealth bomber build actually a lot of fun and covers a playstyle that wasn't exactly that possible before and it's effective for the content I take on.
I like to explore and experiment and push builds as far as I can just because its fun. I got plenty of meta stuff within that too, but the only real use meta stuff has for me is broadly understanding the skeletons of more effective builds then playing with that structure for my preferences. As long as a build I make up or adopt and try isn't an exceptionally painful slog to use, I'm down for just about any combination of builds.
What difficulties have you enjoyed using this build? I'm actually copying it right now for the fun of it. Veteran has some fun niche support talents that I like slotting in regularly.
steel barn
Cool and hell yeah good for you. That sirosky person's stealth bomber build actu...
Might have to try the stealth bomber build tbh, might be fun.
I'm not super confident with making my own build yet, although there are certain things i'll drop so I can have other perks nearly all the time.
I've been usin it on Damnation frequently and just started usin it in low level Havoc too since me and some friends have been trying that. I've never done Auric, otherwise i'd try take it into that too.
spark helm
Might have to try the stealth bomber build tbh, might be fun.
I'm not super conf...
It's probably one of my favorite ways to play veteran as a hit and run fighter with nade nonsense and a shitton of aoe stagger potential. Lots of solid control, stable damage, and all the utility one can expect from general veteran talents and infiltrate and bottom right tree talents.
steel barn
Is the build in chat further up? Or also on gameslantern?
hollow ibex
bleedmaxing but no flechette on DB 
willow prairie
yes
hollow ibex
in general WS DB without flechette is
wild vortex
in general WS DB without flechette is <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
? why
I thought you go Manstopper Scattershot
willow prairie
I forgor
hollow ibex
flechette applies bleed stacks on everything
willow prairie
hollow ibex
while you have infinite cleave
so you can apply bleed on pretty much an entire horde in seconds
steel veldt
https://youtube.com/shorts/A0r1CXukQg4?si=FiOb8t08c3gMKXpk
God do I love the funny Cadian Man
wild vortex
so you can apply bleed on pretty much an entire horde in seconds
never thought of it that way
willow prairie
and you gonna dump that shit into horde anyway
steel veldt
exhilarating takedown might be better than ck on db
What that
wild vortex
600 hrs in this game and I'm a total scrub
steel veldt
What diff you on?
spark helm
For now tho, sleep <:th_sleep:967452742580838492>
Enjoy and gn
wild vortex
What diff you on?
Auric / Maelstroms mostly
sometimes Havoc but I'm too rusty for it now
steel veldt
So how are you bad?
wild vortex
can't clutch almost ever, sometimes I die
frail dragon
Is melee vet good at havoc 40?
hybrid plover
Is melee vet good at havoc 40?
Very much so.
frail dragon
Guess I'm a vet main now
charred salmon
what are best blessings for duel sword on veteran?
hybrid plover
power sword, rashad combat axe, mk6 combat knife, mk7 tac axe, mk4 duelin sword (gross) are all really good melee options for vet rn
charred salmon
uncanny and shred?
ive heard thrust is good but vet doesnt really have much for crit chance
hybrid plover
uncanny + riposte/precog/shred/thrust
hybrid plover
ive heard thrust is good but vet doesnt really have much for crit chance
reciprocity
Nets you up to 35% crit
charred salmon
riposte or shred is better?
hybrid plover
it...depends
shred is weird because if you miss an attack, you lose the stacks
riposte, if you dodge, you just have that crit chance for 6s
but you have to successfully dodge
charred salmon
reciprocity
what is that
charred salmon
but you have to successfully dodge
what counts as successful
hybrid plover
what counts as successful
you have to dodge an attack at a specific time, meaning spam dodging won't do
charred salmon
you have to dodge an attack at a specific time, meaning spam dodging won't do
like i dodge sometimes so how do i know if it was sucessful
frigid shuttle
you get the buff
charred salmon
like how hard is it to do. i heard someone say youll almost always get a successful dodge cause something is trying to hit you
hybrid plover
reciprocity rewards you doing that as well as you get 5% crit chance for a successful dodge for 8s, which stacks five times
wild vortex
like i dodge sometimes so how do i know if it was sucessful
there's a sound effect
hybrid plover
like how hard is it to do. i heard someone say youll almost always get a success...
it's not really hard
charred salmon
reciprocity rewards you doing that as well as you get 5% crit chance for a succe...
what is that
hybrid plover
you just don't want to be constantly pressing dodge
dodge when you know something's coming at your front, or if you hear this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeRTnvFqxrA
charred salmon
you just don't want to be constantly pressing dodge
like i dont constantly but i use dodges to circle around the horde
so that sound means you should dodge
hybrid plover
yeah because that means an enemy is targeting you from behind
charred salmon
so uncanny is basically always good and then its kind whatever you want for crits
pulsar zephyr
Is the chain axe just basically chain sword but with a shove slash attack instead of the poke?
hollow ibex
Is the chain axe just basically chain sword but with a shove slash attack instea...
they're quite different, but generally speaking chaxes are more focused on single target damage
pulsar zephyr
they're quite different, but generally speaking chaxes are more focused on singl...
So I like to spam the chain rev attack on crushers, would I be better doing so with a chain axe?
So I'm assuming crowd controll is less on chainaxe if single target is more it's focus
hollow ibex
So I like to spam the chain rev attack on crushers, would I be better doing so w...
yup
chaxe is very good at shredding armor now
hollow ibex
So I'm assuming crowd controll is less on chainaxe if single target is more it's...
mk12's got pretty good horde control
pulsar zephyr
Thank you very much
pulsar zephyr
Wide swing attacks?
pulsar zephyr
Awesome thanks, I'm not around to test it so I appreciate the insight
dry cloak
from guns that need help are ilas and brauto. what else?
tame lodge
Accatran shotgun
Laspistol 10
Columnus iag
hollow ibex
accatatran sucks ass
it got the least buffs during the cshotgun buffs
least effective range
dry cloak
i use it quite a lot and i dont get that feeling
hollow ibex
i use it quite a lot and i dont get that feeling
test the one shot breakpoint against gunners for example
and see the effective range of agri vs. accatran
dry cloak
i play to its streghts. horde deletion
hybrid plover
i wouldn't mind it being buffed since it's not really great for the same reasons the other shotguns are
hybrid plover
yeah, it's kind of like a makeshift db
hollow ibex
but 4.5? cleave is kinda pathetic for what it's supposed to do
hybrid plover
in general, the special just
dry cloak
and see the effective range of agri vs. accatran
i use agri and it has a lot of range
hollow ibex
i use agri and it has a lot of range
yeah
hybrid plover
agri's one of the best long range weapons in the game
dry cloak
it one of my go to guns for sniping really
hybrid plover
very fun
dry cloak
agri's one of the best long range weapons in the game
which is weird
hollow ibex
agri is like how shotguns are IRL tbh lol
hollow ibex
accatran is a videogame shotgun 
dry cloak
shotguns are crazy at range irl
with proper ammo yes
dry cloak
accatran is a videogame shotgun <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
nah it just uses the cheapest buckshot
hybrid plover
that buckshot must cost like a nickel per shell
to be that ass
cuz buckshot is not at all that inaccurate normally
wild vortex
first game as WS Vet in, like, a year almost
hollow ibex
can't have shit in tertium
hollow ibex
yeh vet got a real glowup
wild vortex
I just want to not be a burden every time I pick exec stance MF
swapped melee to mk4 chword, maybe that will help
feels faster than shovel
dry cloak
that buckshot must cost like a nickel per shell
agrip uses flight control ammo
charred salmon
Which is better flak armor damage or carapace armor damage
misty minnow
Depends what do you have the most trouble with?
If you go into meat grinder and see what type they are you can make your decision that way
silver patrol
carapace if you are actually going to use the weapon against carapace
like say, a duelling sword
misty minnow
Can always have range do one and the melee do the other
Lol I definitely do unyielding on both because some I don't want to get close and if it's too late I want to kill it fast
charred salmon
Is sapper shovel good for anything? Seems like it gets outclassed by basically anything else
silver patrol
it's a generalist
charred salmon
Like what does it do better than chain sword
misty minnow
I believe it's whatever you feel is more fun. What fits you best. When you play a class or weapons you like it makes it easier and faster to want to learn and progress in the game. Then when you want to switch it up try something new you can see which you are more comfortable with
spark helm
Laspistol definitely on the fancy side
proper otter
itd be real cool if they added ratlings that could sit on other player's shoulders like rocket and groot from marvel rivals
woven oak
Been trying out Veteran. Is it just me, or is the Vet CDR node pretty weak compared to the other classes, as well as their toughness regen?
misty minnow
Well there is curios and you can use stems since no one grabs them for some reason
Stims
woven oak
Oh, to clarify, I'm not new to the game. Vet is just my 2nd least played class after Ogryn
misty minnow
Lol
woven oak
I'm trying to find a build and playstyle for vet that works for me, but I am thus far not succeeding.
It's weird to feel squishier on H30 with vet than on H40 with Psyker.
misty minnow
But psyker does have lots of things to help be tanky. Bubble, the nodes that heals toughness and the force swords
But you will be sacrificing what potential damage you could do
toxic reef
Been trying out Veteran. Is it just me, or is the Vet CDR node pretty weak compa...
a lot of vet stuff is toughness from elite or specials, or just not getting melee'd
woven oak
But psyker does have lots of things to help be tanky. Bubble, the nodes that hea...
Yes, now we do. It wasn't so generous pre-rework
toxic reef
but all of the abilities are also great toughness regenerators
CDR node is nothing to scoff at either tbh
woven oak
a lot of vet stuff is toughness from elite or specials, or just not getting mele...
Tbh I think I might need to use Rashad or something rather than the power sword. The low dodges are rough.
toxic reef
it used to be broken
woven oak
Yeah, 6 seconds on special kill was obscene
misty minnow
Lol I'm sure in the newer updates veteran will have it's come back
toxic reef
power sword is a lot of blocking and trying to activate special to do anything
woven oak
I'm just comparing to, like, Ogryn or Zealot or Psyker cdr nodes, which are easier to get in the tree and easier to activate
austere mica
Lol I'm sure in the newer updates veteran will have it's come back
This is the veteran comeback
woven oak
The vets I see in H40 are... like 75% really good. And 25% people like me. :D
austere mica
Removing the tax just let's you take all the old good stuff at once
Which is some kind of balance but it's working ish
toxic reef
ye vet used to be my least fav class
woven oak
power sword is a lot of blocking and trying to activate special to do anything
Yeah, it is a wet noodle without powering up. I wish the falchion were better.
misty minnow
Lol I gave up on power sword and went back to chain
toxic reef
power sword is just very hard to live up to
it's the best when you can use it to its fullest
but surrounded by a horde is not fun with it
woven oak
It seems like the meta weapons are power sword, Rashad, tac axe (?), and maybe chain axe 12? Oh, and knife and DS. Then plasma and boltgun for ranged?
woven oak
but surrounded by a horde is not fun with it
I was not having a great time with p sword and kraks. Missed shredders so much.
misty minnow
Spearhead bolt for me
misty minnow
I know
austere mica
It seems like the meta weapons are power sword, Rashad, tac axe (?), and maybe c...
Helbore is up with plasma now
toxic reef
vraks autogun is also fun
misty minnow
Question on the plasma without charging does it seem still strong?
austere mica
Don't charge plasma
toxic reef
then there's axe gremlin's double barrel + shovel build that slaps
austere mica
Its a waste of time and ammo
woven oak
Helbore is up with plasma now
Good to know. Which mark? I struggle getting headshots with plasma. It's a me problem; bad at aiming and shaky hands.
austere mica
Then helbore is not for you
woven oak
Oh no
austere mica
Helbore is very much so dependent on your aim
silver patrol
just use the plasma
woven oak
The ranged weapon I have the most success with is bistol, but I have seen people say it's bad on vet
misty minnow
Good to know. Which mark? I struggle getting headshots with plasma. It's a me pr...
Then you with me take the bolt
woven oak
Then you with me take the bolt
Seems likely.
toxic reef
I wouldn't say it's bad
it's also used for shredder spam builds with the explosion blessing on it
pulsar zephyr
Is there a way to increase the bayonet meele damage besides combat stims on the helborne
woven oak
This is the current build I am using. Might drop something for the boost to Shredder damage/radius.
toxic reef
what ranged are you on here?
woven oak
it's also used for shredder spam builds with the explosion blessing on it
Fair. That blessing is always active, yes? Even when on melee?
toxic reef
yep
toxic reef
plasma you can skip the reload node and take the WS one that refills your mag on stacks
austere mica
You should play shovel/knife and double barrel
silver patrol
you should play duelling sword and revolver
austere mica
You should play shovel/knife and double barrel
Its like purg psyker except actually fun
misty minnow
But revolver requires aiming for him
austere mica
Not really
toxic reef
otherwise the build is good, I use the same on one of mine basically
woven oak
Its like purg psyker except actually fun
I am a filthy degenerate who has fun on Shriek inferno. Not so much on bubble.
austere mica
Revolver bullets are like shooting basketballs
silver patrol
why serrated blade on power sword?
austere mica
Its not field improv
Field improv is neat but like
It activates maybe twice a mission
toxic reef
rest of his kit doesn't really need field improv
woven oak
plasma you can skip the reload node and take the WS one that refills your mag on...
Good point. Same for boltgun or?
woven oak
Gotcha. I guess plasma's magazine is so much bigger that 33% means a lot more
toxic reef
they both function similar, take it out and shoot a few shots and back to melee
yeah and reload is not something you want to do on plasma unless you really have to
austere mica
You can cancel a plasma reload down to like 4-5 seconds pretty easy
toxic reef
you don't need to top it off as often
woven oak
yeah and reload is not something you want to do on plasma unless you really have...
Instincts keep making me press R to quell my plasma gun
toxic reef
yeah gotta get used to special
woven oak
You can cancel a plasma reload down to like 4-5 seconds pretty easy
I do the reload cancels decently well.
austere mica
In theory I can do the 1 second recon reload
toxic reef
reload cancels fuck with WS tho
woven oak
I thought sliding was the best way to do it?
toxic reef
oh, I don't do it often so
austere mica
Yeah it's typically not practical for 95% of weapons
But the 5% have a 9 second reload
woven oak
You just tap sprint
Sorry, sprint is what I meant. Mistyped
I'll give the boltgun and rashad a shot and see how it pans out. Thank you
toxic reef
I just recently made a dedicated bolter build with exec stance and marksman's focus, made me appreciate it in a whole new way instead of the backup magdump weapon I used to use it as on vet and other classes
woven oak
I would prefer to use it as a special sniper first and a magdump machine second. Puncture and... pinning fire? Then unyielding and carapace?
woven oak
Is the primary appeal of plasma just long range accuracy and high damage? If it had ADS, I think I would like it a lot.
toxic reef
it's special deleter extreme ye
woven oak
Alas. If only I could aim
toxic reef
you get used to without it, it slows down your aiming when shooting so it isn't too hard to land consecutive headshots
even at range
the slight wallhack you get is overkill as well
I enjoy it while I still can
woven oak
I'll probably swap between a few weapons to see where I end up. Boltgun also just has better audio. Chunkier.
toxic reef
yeah plasma is subtler lol
obtuse musk
It’s hard to like any gun as much as I love the bolt pistol. Just wish I could have my melee in the other hand while I use it like a proper guard mini
olive halo
bros can anyone tell me what this random vet in my lobby is cooking
what even is this abomination
toxic reef
guess they don't like toughness
toxic reef
get out of malice
olive halo
trying to get dream team 😭
toxic reef
auric and get it eventually
I have like 20 elite guard ones from just doing auric maelstrom a ton
you never know what kinda of ppl you get down there
olive halo
huh
I never considered that, I imagined it'd take longer on auric since its much harder and someone is bound to go down at least once
toxic reef
player skill is better
hindsight I'd rather take the chance there
but I had a p high one before I grinded out the last ones I needed for that penance
if I had to do all penances again I would just do them all on auric
even on overwatch
olive halo
on overwatch gave me so much trouble
I ended up getting it with the help of Ainz in this server (fall off the map, he speed ran archivum sycorax in like 9 minutes), dude is a beast
storm pine
on overwatch gave me so much trouble
I accidentally got it running laspistol vet
toxic reef
I did rolling steel and shouted a lot
as long as you don't take health dmg you're good
it reads worse than what it is
dapper coyote
Chat, what the "heat" mechanic on some of the melee weapon?
dry cloak
Chat, what the "heat" mechanic on some of the melee weapon?
power falchion and relic blade?
replacement for powersowrds special function
dapper coyote
power falchion and relic blade?
Ye for those thingy
toxic reef
when heat goes critical you can't use it again until it all dissipates
if you manage your heat before it goes critical you can activate it as much as you want
dapper coyote
I see....
toxic reef
for relic blade I usually just do a quick double switch
I like it better than manually powering it down
dapper coyote
Double switch?
toxic reef
yeah meant swapping
dapper coyote
I see
toxic reef
the blessings are mostly the same for heat stuff tho
cranial is the one that's the best I think
dapper coyote
I might want to test Pfalchion and relic in the future...
dapper coyote
Relic won't be tested in the future because i haven't maxxed out my Zealot just yet
Im gathering resources to instantly give zealot Maxxed out axe to cheese lots missions
toxic reef
it's prob my most used weapon on zealot
knife is easier to max out early
that's what I did when I was leveling my 2nd zealot
dapper coyote
Im just force feeding hadron more combat axes that suspiciously paid by my veteran
grand perch
Ew you stepped into a tanner
finite hawk
1/10, pretends to be a Krieg build while using Steel Legion cosmetics
thin stone
Ew you stepped into a tanner
A what?
Oh I just realised it's that dude
Who is banned from the server
My bad folks
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ffb5fd9-655c-4fef-86af-187952d06cfb/lasgun-veteran-current
How about this one
I really like the laspistol + knife combo
Or maybe Laspistol + shovel
I've been using PS6 + Recon rn and while it's fine, I don't like to charge up my weapon every 2 seconda
serene bough
bros can anyone tell me what this random vet in my lobby is cooking
Lol
thin stone
bros can anyone tell me what this random vet in my lobby is cooking
Never let them cook again
olive halo
Never let them cook again
I wish lol, this dude skipped over medicae, ammo, even med stimms
I gave the dude a scripture, at least carry that
midnight wyvern
Never let them cook again
you're jealous of his free will
void dragon
Free tinkerers burning the kitchen, the bakery and the favourite desert of the Emperor of mankind
static radish
yo lads, what fun builds do you have for vet?
formal ice
yo lads, what fun builds do you have for vet?
This one
static radish
i see
spark helm
yo lads, what fun builds do you have for vet?
What do you like doing?
lilac zealot
does anyone know why i didnt get the penance for falchion lv 20 even though i have mastery 20
hollow ibex
try exiting mourningstar and reentering
static radish
What do you like doing?
Honestly idk, I want something you consider fun and then ill try jt
hollow ibex
Honestly idk, I want something you consider fun and then ill try jt
"we got psyker at home"
static radish
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e1f05dc-6162-4d02-8a5d-ceb865e4f69a/st...
Why is it called stealth bomber
static radish
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1428625649047834714/5...
I see now
hollow ibex
basically taking advantage of the crap ton of damage buffs on the right side / infil
to turn frags into nukes
pretty much all infil is good for rn anyway
tepid otter
I didn't know that penance for Assisting 50 players finish their Havoc meant doing 50 havoc missions
dear lawd
static radish
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e1f05dc-6162-4d02-8a5d-ceb865e4f69a/st...
consider the following (i want you opinion)
hollow ibex
consider the following (i want you opinion)
yeah you can take bistol if you really want to lean into fragmaxxing
but DB is a far better gun so i prefer DB
static radish
understood
hollow ibex
i take both move speed nodes because i lke moving fast
static radish
wait
hollow ibex
quite frankly i don't think tinkerer is super important on this one
hollow ibex
because elites tend to come up in tight packs
static radish
fair enough
hollow ibex
and most of the damage is from bleed rather than the explosion
hollow ibex
damage aura tho?
i'm taking close and kill for move speed
rather than the damage aura
static radish
ah oke
hollow ibex
but that's all just personal pref
static radish
simply looking at the grenade maxxing possiblity
hollow ibex
you can take whatever aura you like most
yeah drop move speed and take tinkerer in that case
and run with bistol
static radish
woo hoo
tepid otter
Does crit chance work on nades actually or that just for your weaps
static radish
and run with bistol
wait do you need to underhand throw them?=
ah yeah appears so
im not sure tho, how infiltrate works
cuz sometimes it seems like it runs out so quickly
hollow ibex
Does crit chance work on nades actually or that just for your weaps
Blitzes can’t crit so no
narrow frost
most blitz
hollow ibex
Can knife crit?
narrow frost
Tknives and Assail can
hollow ibex
wait do you need to underhand throw them?=
Underhand to stay in stealth
static radish
yeah noticed
hollow ibex
Overhand if you want to leave stealth
calm shard
Nades can’t tho
imagine if they could and shredders critting applied more bleed
azure narwhal
New bistol with lethal prox gave us the tr00 bolt weapon experience for the tr00 40k chuds
spark helm
Honestly idk, I want something you consider fun and then ill try jt
I gotta do some stuff out of nowhere but that sirosky person's build it dropped is a pretty fun one. The concept was something I already enjoyed the idea of before vets multiple talent reworks but now it's much much more accessible without sacrificing much output.
dapper coyote
Is light Autogun (blue) good?
dry cloak
Is light Autogun (blue) good?
which one? vigi infantry braced?
dapper coyote
which one? vigi infantry braced?
Infantry
hollow ibex
just give us the name...
dapper coyote
I don't fuckin remember
hollow ibex
fast medium or slow then
hollow ibex
more like SAP is a mini vraks lol
dapper coyote
learn those if you can
It feels like PPSH (a VERY fast firing WW2 SMG with a large capacity drum mag for its time)
dapper coyote
Yea but atleast i can aim
hollow ibex
hipfiring a brrrrrt gun seems more in line with ppsh vibes tbh
dapper coyote
I put reload speed node and that thing i didn't realise was already comically fast at reloading
hollow ibex
yeah don't need reload speed on IAGs
dapper coyote
MF just speedrunned the reload lmao
And i have deadeye my guy was exhausted halfway through lmao
What perks should i prioritise for IAG?
hollow ibex
for vraks?
dapper coyote
Ye
hollow ibex
prob flak + crit chance
hollow ibex
and then blessings are dumdum deathspitter
dapper coyote
I see
undone jungle
did they change how you skip campaign after character creation because my friend can't figure it out
dapper coyote
Also another funny thing about serated blades
Is that it applies to weapon bashes too
So im bashing with my stock from the tan IAG
And the guy bleeds lmao
dapper coyote
did they change how you skip campaign after character creation because my friend...
For first players no
ONLY once you fully played the whole campaign, REGARDLESS of difficulty
Then you can skip
I think
Anyways
orchid hemlock
ok i always wanted to see if the #1 GL build improved after the update https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/veteran-squad-leader
dapper coyote
My stock of IAG have barbed wire or something?
undone jungle
ONLY once you fully played the whole campaign, REGARDLESS of difficulty
that's so fucking stupid but ty
orchid hemlock
yeah they did it to gatekeep the newbs
kinda based, but the game is dead population wise
so idk if that is a good idea 💀
fair shale
Which game?
orchid hemlock
Freaktide
orchid hemlock
let me check steams
fair shale
Doesnt this game average 5 digits?
Nah 4 on steam but thats not accounting for the console players
orchid hemlock
yeah its still averaging in the 5k-7k range
orchid hemlock
Nah 4 on steam but thats not accounting for the console players
thats a good one
fair shale
Lmfao I could not play this game default controls
fair shale
It amazes me how much good will HD2 seems to have burnt in the last 3 months
distant plaza
It amazes me how much good will HD2 seems to have burnt in the last 3 months
i don't keep up with HD2 news
what'd they do? 👀
fair shale
I have no idea tbh
I uninstalled it awhile ago cause file bloat
People seem really angry now
willow prairie
mismanagement
fair shale
Ive heard about it bricking PCs, no confirmed info on that tho
orchid hemlock
i don't keep up with HD2 news
what'd they do? 👀
tbf, i think it is justified to abandon ship after how unhinged the community has become 💀
calm shard
tbf, i think it is justified to abandon ship after how unhinged the community ha...
no nerfs only buffs moment
primal zealot
Tbh I dont use mods cause they make me toxic
i dont need mods to be toxic
orchid hemlock
if I were to summarize the HD2 community in one sentence:
The people who saw the movie Starship Troopers but didn't realize it was satire.
trail ore
It amazes me how much good will HD2 seems to have burnt in the last 3 months
first cracks began to appear around the time into the unjust came out and from there is started to go downhill at breakneck speed
primal zealot
lol cus its not good satire
orchid hemlock
yeah because starship trooper suck as a satire
i think it did a good job, the problem is that you gotta spoon feed people due to how media illiterate they are
trail ore
i liked starship troopers as a movie because it was funny
i read the novel, was depressing as shit
good times
fair shale
I think SSTs is pretty blatant satire at some points
orchid hemlock
i read the novel, was depressing as shit
the movie was supposed to make fun of the novel, because the novel was serious
fair shale
Specifically the children fighting over the gun and stepping on bugs
orchid hemlock
the novel is unironic
trail ore
the movie was supposed to make fun of the novel, because the novel was serious
didn't the guy directing the movie admit that he tried to read the novel but had to drop it because it was super depressing
orchid hemlock
didn't the guy directing the movie admit that he tried to read the novel but had...
the guy who wrote it unironically wanted to genocide Koreans with nukes
fair shale
didn't the guy directing the movie admit that he tried to read the novel but had...
"Because it glorifys fascism" iirc
fair shale
the guy who wrote it unironically wanted to genocide Koreans with nukes
I didnt know MacArthur wrote SSTs
orchid hemlock
I didnt know MacArthur wrote SSTs
trail ore
"Because it glorifys fascism" iirc
jingoistic at worst
orchid hemlock
tbh it isn't as bad as Star Wars fans
fair shale
What a loon tbh
orchid hemlock
if I told SW fans what inspired Lucas to make the original movies, they would have an existential crisis 💀
primal zealot
didn't the guy directing the movie admit that he tried to read the novel but had...
... talk about low media literacy
fair shale
if I told SW fans what inspired Lucas to make the original movies, they would ha...
Iirc it was Nam
The rebels being the Vietnamese
trail ore
if I told SW fans what inspired Lucas to make the original movies, they would ha...
i heard in some interview that it was supposed to be about how democracies constantly fell to tyrants and allat
or at least the idea behind the galactic republic
or maybe im just being stupid
tender pasture
The same kind of SW fans who think the Empire did nothing wrong?
orchid hemlock
i heard in some interview that it was supposed to be about how democracies const...
well yes, the Empire visually is supposed to be a 1:1 comparison to Nazi Germany. The color pallet is white black and red
but it wasn't until he made the prequels where he expanded on the Republic
narrow widget
the guy who wrote it unironically wanted to genocide Koreans with nukes
Douglas MacArthur status
distant plaza
it's not like cyclical forms of human government is a new idea
orchid hemlock
but the thing that people dont want to admit, is if Lucas based the orignal movies on Vietnam, that means he is implying that the US = Nazi Germany
fair shale
In all fairness, who are you actually supposed to like in 40k?
distant plaza
how's it go
tyrant/dictatorship, democracy, oligarchy, tyrant/dictatorship, repeat
tender pasture
but the thing that people dont want to admit, is if Lucas based the orignal movi...
I mean, given the US record of intervention, is he wrong?
trail ore
In all fairness, who are you actually supposed to like in 40k?
the imperium, obviously (j)
orchid hemlock
I mean, given the US record of intervention, is he wrong?
woah weoah woah, we can't talk about that here
looks over shoulder
tender pasture
And also given that the Nazis took a look at US racial policy and went "oof too strict"
trail ore
i mean they have skulls and kickass armour
fair shale
the imperium, obviously <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090> (j)
Well I mean, they clearly get the most coverage lol
distant plaza
In all fairness, who are you actually supposed to like in 40k?
human species enough to fight for the imperium?
i mean, maybe the orks because they're happiest while fighting given the galaxy they inhabit
lmao
tender pasture
Being a chef for Orks could be funny
fair shale
human species enough to fight for the imperium?
The Imperium doesn't care for humanity, it cares for the continuation of the institution, which is why large swaths of humanity are treated poorly.
trail ore
The Imperium doesn't care for humanity, it cares for the continuation of the ins...
it is widely known that the emperor would have a fucking stroke if he saw the imperium in it's current state
fair shale
it is widely known that the emperor would have a fucking stroke if he saw the im...
I do not think he would tbh.
willow prairie
I mean it wasn't better when he was actually alive
trail ore
which is somewhat ironic, because it is implied he was only slightly less of a control freak than the current overlords
fair shale
It serves his goals quite nicely atm
tender pasture
Not capable of stroking out
tender pasture
It serves his goals quite nicely atm
Biggest one is his leddit atheism
fair shale
Aye, but the religion actively serves him
tender pasture
That's one interpretation
fair shale
Hes not like, ignorant of what the Imperium is currently.
orchid hemlock
And also given that the Nazis took a look at US racial policy and went "oof too ...
Settler colonies 🥵
tender pasture
The other (which he bungled) was trying to starve out Chaos
primal zealot
hes had 10000 years to come to terms with it
distant plaza
'we're at where we're at because no one feels like they can do anything differently because it'll be so much worse for them personally if they do' is the flavour of the imperium -_-
fair shale
The other (which he bungled) was trying to starve out Chaos
Bungled is one word for that, yeah
calm shard
In all fairness, who are you actually supposed to like in 40k?
whichever flavor of authoritarianism is your favorite
likeable does not have to mean they are good or moral
tender pasture
The Emperor does not seem like the kind of fellow who processes disappointment well
fair shale
whichever flavor of authoritarianism is your favorite
Tbf I'd probably find it more likeable if they didn't murder my army
tender pasture
Old mate had one friend maybe who could tell him to touch grass
fair shale
So I'm exceptionally disillusioned with liking anything in 40k, personally
tender pasture
He's been hotboxing his own farts way too long
vapid void
am i nuts or does resupply allies just not work
its sat at 3047 for the last 3-4 missions
calm shard
So I'm exceptionally disillusioned with liking anything in 40k, personally
I'm fond of the Tau because the battlesuits and railguns are cool
fair shale
I'm fond of the Tau because the battlesuits and railguns are cool
The aesthetics simply don't work for me tbh
trail ore
i hate the tau because they're fish people
tender pasture
Also the closest thing to modern tactics (minus lack of tube artillery)
trail ore
and also because their mechs look stupidly out of place
tender pasture
That's exactly why I like them
fair shale
I'm completely ambivalent to the Taus existence but do wish people would stop telling me theyre the good guys in 40k
trail ore
granted to be fair the eldar are not much better
tender pasture
They're the least bad
calm shard
I'm completely ambivalent to the Taus existence but do wish people would stop te...
They USED to objectively be the designated good guys
tender pasture
Can't make empires without fuckery
calm shard
Genuinely
fair shale
They ***USED*** to objectively be the designated good guys
I'll accept used to be, they defo are not anymore tho
tender pasture
Enormities are essential ingredients for empire building
calm shard
Yeah not anymore because people complained the Tau weren't grimdark enough
fair shale
The longer they've existed to be fleshed out the more "grimdark" they got
trail ore
They ***USED*** to objectively be the designated good guys
gw realized they were making the setting too 'grimbright' so they had to scale back the hope
calm shard
With their "genuinely trying to do good for the sake of good" thing
tender pasture
Also low key racialized pushback probably
Couldn't have the racially coded faction be the good guys
fair shale
I think id like tau more if they did more with the auxillaries
Kroot are genuinely neat
tender pasture
Tau cop a particularly vicious type of grognard seething
fair shale
Meanwhile
calm shard
But they assure you they are real
calm shard
Also stop asking about Tau aligned humans
trail ore
GW will not allow you to see them
out of character, they could make a bunch of exclusive minis and sell them for 100 dollars a pack (granted that would force them to actually design new miniatures)
fair shale
*Also stop asking about Tau aligned humans*
I genuinely feel like itd be such a free win to have a Guevesa upgrade pack for guard along the same lines are Brood Brothers
tender pasture
GW loves telling but not showing
GW are not skilled writers in general
fair shale
No one in the world asked for Brood Brothers
People have been crying for Gue'vesa for as long as I've been into 40k
Which is over a decade atp
fair shale
GW are not skilled writers in general
Ik, the entire setting barring very few books is pulp
trail ore
i want a canon appearance for felinids
fair shale
i want a canon appearance for felinids
Xenobiologis has one iirc
tender pasture
Ik, the entire setting barring very few books is pulp
It's bro smut
fair shale
It's bro smut
Bolter porn, if you will
trail ore
the abhumans get minimal coverage in general (except for ogryns and ratlings) despite the fact that there's 15 of them
tender pasture
Be interesting seeing Guard available as detachments for Tau to represent gue'vesa
Tau going "huh tube artillery is the most economical way to yeet explosives a long distance"
"fuck the logistical footprint though"
fair shale
I genuinely don't get why there isn't this for Gue'vesa
It would arguably be easier to make too
tender pasture
Probs did some focus group testing and figured the molds aren't worth it
The overwhelming majority of their sales is astartes
trail ore
How much plastic krieg sold
kriegs being the most expensive guard minis iirc
tender pasture
Tau auxiliaries is like a fraction of a niche
fair shale
Cause for all the crying about "id play krieg if they came to plastic" I still havent seen a modern krieg army
tender pasture
Elysian Drop Troops?
trail ore
i have like 20 krieg infantry and 5 death riders and i am yet to actually complete any of them
tender pasture
Or did GW release plastic kits for Elysians
tender pasture
Having plastic flyers was helpful
But you still had to stump up for a kidney and most of a liver of resin
DKK also has a bunch of super heavy tanks and the like
fair shale
Its unironically cheaper if you go tanks
Infantry armies from FW were the crazy expensive stuff
I know a guy who spend something like 3 grand doing FW Krieg back in the day
tender pasture
Tbh at that point converting a WW1 Mk 1 tank kit would work out better
trail ore
Tbh at that point converting a WW1 Mk 1 tank kit would work out better
i had this idea actually
i have a bunch of paper mache tanks i got from a friend
tender pasture
Ork tanks
Respect the commitment to make them out of papier mache
There was a point when White Dwarf was going "ayo you can make Ork tanks from shampoo bottles"
Not any more
trail ore
has anyone considered making an ork tank that looks like a bob semple tank
trail ore
fair shale
Someone has made the stupid meme tank for orks
trail ore
'you can fit so much dakka in this here killa box'
tender pasture
T-14 Armata for Orks
tender pasture
Yeah, it doesn't work very well, much like Imperial tanks
tender pasture
Concept is cool but execution and doctrine a bit sus
Reminds me of Heavy Gear more than anything
trail ore
Yeah, it doesn't work very well, much like Imperial tanks
blame the mechanicus for using designs that are like a bajillion years old
muh omnissiah
tender pasture
Also like, how the fuck does anyone load shells into the breech with a gun that big and a turret that small
fair shale
Lemme find you something funny rq
atomic void
blame the mechanicus for using designs that are like a bajillion years old
The bazillion yo tech is literally better tho
trail ore
The bazillion yo tech is literally better tho
trve
fair shale
Also like, how the fuck does anyone load shells into the breech with a gun that ...
Slave Labor, at least in the case of the naval guns
trail ore
Slave Labor, at least in the case of the naval guns
yoo the shells are shaped gothic too??
fair shale
Its warhammer what else did you expect
tender pasture
Slave Labor, at least in the case of the naval guns
Yeah Imperial warships are wild
tender pasture
"I have a macrocannon"
trail ore
wait dont the mechanicus ships have autoloaders though
like, normal autoloaders that don't need hundreds of slaves to reload
fair shale
I have no idea tbh
The mechanicus likes slave Labor even more than the Imperium
I mean like
trail ore
can lobotomites be considered people though
fair shale
When you boil it down
fair shale
can lobotomites be considered people though <:whatthefuck_heresy:104972444420723...
You wanna see something else funny?
trail ore
(yes they can)
trail ore
i mean defective servitors aren't exactly uncommon
it would seem
defective in the sense that they're not complete vegetables and still retain some semblence of a psyche
fair shale
This is gonna take me ages to find
Sometimes servitors explode into daemonhosts
Because the lobotomization doesnt take
And they're stuck yearning so badly to not be in that situation their cries are heard by something in the warp
There's some real gnarly art of that somewhere
sudden cedar
That is not how daemonhosts work
trail ore
i think you mean normal daemons
sudden cedar
Daemonhosts are bound to a mortal body
fair shale
Its a shell that hosts a daemon
sudden cedar
That is a different to possession
fair shale
I suppose thats fair enough
If i ever find the art you'll know
Im frankly not sure where to start digging for it anymore
sudden cedar
@fair shale Daemonhosts utilize a mortal body to literally bind the daemon into that host body to control it and force the masters will onto the daemon.
Possession is when a Daemon takes control of a body and actively controls it.
fair shale
Ik, I'm just using terms interchangeably cause I was pre peak mental function
shell python
in what cases is the knife good with vet?
sudden cedar
In every case.
shell python
or like
what cases, what builds
charred salmon
should you use lights or heavies with sapper shovel
charred salmon
or like
what cases, what builds
crit
shell python
crit
probably best with like, an infiltrate/weapon spec build then?
trying to figure out soem good melees to use for an infiltrate/weapon spec build and then a squad leader build
tall torrent
also is comp urge worth taking
Usually no
tall torrent
in what cases is the knife good with vet?
Unless u purposefully avoid the bottom right side entirely, knife is pretty strong on vet in general
shell python
Unless u purposefully avoid the bottom right side entirely, knife is pretty stro...
squadleader build i follow has nothing in the bottom right
tall torrent
squadleader build i follow has nothing in the bottom right
Then it’s most likely not a great build
gilded wraith
Quick question Path. Does your guide provide the weapons innate crit chance, or is that with the Vet's base crit chance factored in? Ex. Double barrel shows +5%. Would that be an effective +15% with the vet's base 10%?
tall torrent
Quick question Path. Does your guide provide the weapons innate crit chance, or...
+5% means +5% onto veteran’s base
gilded wraith
+5% means +5% onto veteran’s base
Thanks!
tall torrent
i mean...its the highest rated vet build
Yea it’s not great
austere mica
i mean...its the highest rated vet build
Doesn't mean anything
The highest rated zealot build sucks
And so does this one, wow
tall torrent
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/ve...
Actually no I take it back
This is not “not great”
This is almost a troll build
austere mica
No bottom right investment
Get back in the fight
Killzone?????
Focused fire
Exilhirating
stuck gorge
Allat for a plasma gun lol
tall torrent
The one they made before veteran talent change was at least sensible
This is not sensible whatsoever
austere mica
At least they take tfd superiority and iron will
shell python
yeah i made my own tweaks to it, recognize killzone is terrible
but whats wrong with focused fire
10% extra damage's gotta be pretty nice
austere mica
If you actually have full stacks
mortal aspen
honestly, that build doesn't look that bad anymore
hollow ibex
yeah and you shouldn't hever have full stacks
stuck gorge
killzone is bad just because of its long cd right?
hollow ibex
if you're playing FT correctly
hollow ibex
killzone is bad just because of its long cd right?
and 15% ranged damage isn't that much compared to what you can get on the right hand side
austere mica
Unless you want to tag a boss or smth
shell python
...whats the logic behind that
id imagine you'd want to conserve stacks to apply them all to priority targets to melt them faster and get a bigger damage buff for you and teammates
austere mica
Which is focused fires only case
austere mica
...whats the logic behind that
id imagine you'd want to conserve stacks to apply...
You throw focus at everything that moves
So you actually get benefit
stuck gorge
...whats the logic behind that
id imagine you'd want to conserve stacks to apply...
just tag anything any everything whenever you see them for free dmg
hollow ibex
...whats the logic behind that
id imagine you'd want to conserve stacks to apply...
that's the opposite of what FT is about
hollow ibex
that's fair
stuck gorge
And if you accidentally ping two separate targets right after eachother you lose the whole stack you put on the first one
austere mica
Or if you double ping one target
shell python
which is why i dont do that
tall torrent
killzone is bad just because of its long cd right?
Compared to the whole kit on bottom right killzone is nothing
stuck gorge
would it at least be decent if someone uses mmf (this is a bad idea regardless I’m assuming)
tall torrent
would it at least be decent if someone uses mmf (this is a bad idea regardless I...
MF’s opportunity cost is bad because the pathing sucks
U can get 80% of its job done with bottom right + FT which applies to ur melee too
shell python
gimme a bit and ill post my revised build
tall torrent
This is like
Veteran default generalist build
stuck gorge
can’t wait for a new “the build” line art to be drawn
meager echo
To be fair, its much better than old tree.
Just need some adjustment.
hollow ibex
It just doesn't have taxes
we got a tax break, but there are def still taxes
shell python
whys that
did fine on hi intensity auric just now
hollow ibex
dclaw + bistol
shell python
no i didnt set it
hollow ibex
oh ok
hollow ibex
skipping right side is crazy to me, but whatevs
mortal aspen
not taking demo team
hollow ibex
yeah and taking LNOB over demo team
hybrid plover
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/ve...
Highest rated build on gameslantern doesn't say much
hollow ibex
Highest rated build on gameslantern doesn't say much
says a lot actually
tells me the build is shit without even having to click in
orchid hemlock
i mean...its the highest rated vet build
LMAO
hybrid plover
LOL
shell python
yeah yeah its been made abundantly clear to me im a moron
i get it already, jesus christ
hurry up and finish laughing at me then help me refine this build
hybrid plover
Nah you're not. Just take builds from there with a grain of salt.
orchid hemlock
hurry up and finish laughing at me then help me refine this build
nah im done
austere mica
You're not dumb, you just didn't know what was good
shell python
skipping right side is crazy to me, but whatevs
what should i sacrifice to get to the right side stuff then
orchid hemlock
whats crazy, is the build got worse after the patch
because before it was a decent plasma build
shell python
its kinda problematic cause like
i wanna do krak grenades with the appropriate talents that buff being a grenadier
but i also wanna take VoC and focus fire
shell python
figured that one could go, yeah
orchid hemlock
You don't need grenadier on kraks
i think it is worth, even in aurics
because the amount of boss damage it does is too insane
shell python
tinkerer's just good for bosses, right?
cause otherwise krak oneshots anything else?
hollow ibex
what should i sacrifice to get to the right side stuff then
just follow path's generic build template
hybrid plover
i think it is worth, even in aurics
because the amount of boss damage it does ...
That's tinkerer you're talking about
hollow ibex
a lot of the team support talents on vet are dogshit
orchid hemlock
That's tinkerer you're talking about
oh yeah than yes u dont need tinker
hybrid plover
Grenadier gives you extra base grenade and has a chance of throwing two
hollow ibex
This is like
Veteran default generalist build
i just realized, why OM over longshot?
austere mica
Because it works with more things
hybrid plover
oh yeah than yes u dont need tinker
It's tinkerer that's the better pick
Grenadier isn't very practical for kraks
Much better for frags
hollow ibex
Grenadier isn't very practical for kraks
it's very funny tho
tall torrent
i just realized, why OM over longshot?
that row depends on gun
hollow ibex
that row depends on gun
ok yeah fair
hybrid plover
And even then, in auric, it's still debatable
orchid hemlock
frags doesn't need tinkerer, because the majority of the damage is from the bleed not the explosion
shell python
i should try doing a krak maxxing build
its a boss melter
hollow ibex
kraks don't actually do that much boss damage tbh'
shell python
one of the whole reasons why i wanna take FF with focused fire
orchid hemlock
i should try doing a krak maxxing build
what if u do a stealth burst build
hollow ibex
it's barely passable
mortal aspen
kraks don't actually do that much boss damage tbh'
in auric they do
hollow ibex
what if u do a stealth burst build
i don't think it's worth on krak
mortal aspen
it's pretty funny
hollow ibex
well let me test real quick
mortal aspen
with all the damage buffs + tinker + maybe 2x proc
hybrid plover
Yeah skirmisher + EW + tinkerer kraks go kinda nuts actually
shell python
...can i nix serrated blade for field improv?
hybrid plover
...can i nix serrated blade for field improv?
This is very dependent on your melee
shell python
being able to replenish kraks is
insane
orchid hemlock
...can i nix serrated blade for field improv?
all of the talents on that row are dogshit tbh
shell python
This is very dependent on your melee
my current all-rounder is the rashad because now im questioning if even my choice in melees is stupid or not
hybrid plover
But you're not getting value out of it all the time
orchid hemlock
so u can pick anything and it will prob not mean much
mortal aspen
being able to replenish kraks is
insane
you already have infinite with Demo Team and Demo Stockpile
shell python
i dont even know anymore with vet tbh which is strange because for the longest time ive been a vet main
shell python
you already have infinite with Demo Team and Demo Stockpile
when it gets problematic, though, sometimes i need em back instantly
hybrid plover
my current all-rounder is the rashad because now im questioning if even my choic...
Rashad is one of vets best melees
orchid hemlock
FI i think has value in havocs when people actually coordinate, and it helps with corruption
shell python
so i kinda wanna try the combat knife because ive never used the knife despite having like 450 hours
hybrid plover
so i kinda wanna try the combat knife because ive never used the knife despite h...
You want serrated
shell python
and then otherwise, uhhh
i guess my main melees are rashad and then im gonna build a chaxe because it works really really well for my zealot
hybrid plover
Serrated enables two setups for knife
shell python
so hopefully itll work well on vet
orchid hemlock
Chain is mid on vet
hybrid plover
Mercy killer, which does pretty good single target
shell python
oh
great
orchid hemlock
Rashad is like top 5 melees on Vet atm
hybrid plover
Or flesh tearer, which does both pretty good single target and horde clear
With uncanny as the second blessing mostly
orchid hemlock
Mercy killer, which does pretty good single target
like path said, mercy might loose value now just because of how carapace enemies are stornger now
hollow ibex
vs. bosses
base krak damage = 3840
krak damage with BID/skirmisher/tinkeer = 8,544
not great
shell python
yeah lets assume i build the knife to deal with carapace
hybrid plover
like path said, mercy might loose value now just because of how carapace enemies...
Yes. That's why i don't use it and use flesh instead
shell python
uncanny and precognition, maybe?
orchid hemlock
the default blessing son knife ussually is uncanny riposte
hybrid plover
Mercy needs a buff tbh
shell python
btw for knife perks im assuming carapace and unyielding or elite?
orchid hemlock
uncanny and precognition, maybe?
the problem with precog is that you really need to pay attention to the 2 second window to make it viable
meager echo
H40 has around 12 bosses each run on average ~ 12*80k =960k dmg assuming you one shot boss once you see it.
And even with that ridiculous assumption, it's not even close to the average total melee dmg around 1mil+.
So building only to burst bosses is usually not worth at all.
hollow ibex
testing against plogryn
hybrid plover
btw for knife perks im assuming carapace and unyielding or elite?
I firmly believe you don't need unyielding for knife
mortal aspen
4 kraks and any boss is dead, that's good
hollow ibex
which has 59,999
orchid hemlock
thats why it ussually is best on zealot, because zealot can force out crits using stealth or fury
hybrid plover
Because with the right setup, it does crazy damage against unyielding anyway
Baseline one of the best weapons for that
hybrid plover
I run unarmored personally
orchid hemlock
i take maniac/cara
hollow ibex
hp bar rounded rwrong i guess
orchid hemlock
because with maniac you can oneshot mutants on the head
hollow ibex
even cspwan has 47.25k hp
hybrid plover
Since I usually use knife with stuff that's good against maniacs anyway
orchid hemlock
the important one is cara, the othe rperk doesn't really matter
shell python
so uhhh
would i still need serrated if im not running mercykiller or the other one that adds 8 bleed stacks on crit?
hollow ibex
tbf i you get a grenadier proc you can kill a plogryn with 4 nades assuming you also run infil and cqkz
hybrid plover
so uhhh
would i still need serrated if im not running mercykiller or the other o...
It's nice to have for sustained dps with uncanny
orchid hemlock
so uhhh
would i still need serrated if im not running mercykiller or the other o...
serrated is just a talent u take because everything else on that row is dogshit
hybrid plover
But not entirely necessary
shell python
gonna hurt not running field improv but oh well, ill manage
orchid hemlock
gonna hurt not running field improv but oh well, ill manage
u can take it, just take uncanny riposte on the knife
flesh+serrated is good
but I wouldn't run FT without serrated
hybrid plover
flesh+serrated is good
but I wouldn't run FT without serrated
So I see. My propaganda has finally taken hold.
Good. Good..
meager echo
Focus target sub-node are bad imo.
Not worth to take, if you haven't take skirmisher, agile engagement & weakness exploit.
hybrid plover
Focus target sub-node are bad imo.
Not worth to take, if you haven't take skirmi...
Redirect fire is not bad
shell python
im also ditching focused fire
grab CQKZ, reciprocity, agile engagement, marksman, fully loaded, grenadier?
orchid hemlock
So I see. My propaganda has finally taken hold.
no i still would never take bleed on knife 💀
to me, knife is a weapon that is supposed to kill high priority targets as quickly as possible
the only time bleed is useful on it, is for bosses
shell python
sounds like i should be taking agile engagement then
meager echo
Redirect fire is not bad
In his specific case its bad.
hybrid plover
In his specific case its bad.
I suppose if you're pressed for nodes, ya
meager echo
It's much better.
hybrid plover
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a025562f-6f4f-4d05-aac9-919e8ce634f9/sq...
You're running exactly what I would run with focus target for the most part
meager echo
You should change the stamina node on bottom right to crit chance on dodge.
The node has an innate cooldown.
shell python
swapped
for weapons im thinking of running the combat blade just to test it out, otherwise prob gonna stick with rashad
but then for a gun, uhhhh
usually if im tryharding, i take a plasma gun
meager echo
Field improv and serrated blade can be interchanged if your weapon benefit from bleed.
shell python
yeah, there was a slightly lengthy talk about that
but i decided i wont be running a bleed build knife
running precog uncanny
er
riposte uncanny
but uhhhh
plasma gun with unyielding and maniacs, then rising heat and gets hot sound fine?
hybrid plover
plasma gun with unyielding and maniacs, then rising heat and gets hot sound fine...
Flak unarmored
shell python
keep the knife and rashad as the carapace killer?
shell python
...speaking of
i just realized that like
for almost a year or so now, ive been running it with ammo as the dumpstat
thats
probably not the dumpstat, is it
or is it?
royal hollow
So what all 76
meager echo
Plasma gun you can run
69 thermal resistant, 71 charge rate for min maxing purpose
Or 80 thermal resistant and 60 charge rate, its minimal different.
hybrid plover
Yeah since the actual roll for plasma is really particular to get, thermal would be dump if you don't wanna bother
tame lodge
Gamble it up
shell python
yeah no i do not want to try to get that one specific roll
just got a thermal dump so ill stick with that
hybrid plover
yeah no i do *not* want to try to get that one specific roll
just got a thermal ...
Yeah that's fine
I think it took me like
A solid 1.5m dockets for my plasma lmao
fair shale
Finding something with a dump stat? Easy.
Finding something with opportune stats? Harder than you'd think ime.
shell python
also switching gears for a sec, uhhhhhhhhhh
this build is also from the website so probably ass
but i wanna refine an infiltrate weapon spec build
hybrid plover
but i wanna refine an infiltrate weapon spec build
Double barrel
shell python
cause i find infiltrate weapon spec but with shredder to be pretty fun ngl
so this is what it is and i already see a problem with it
exhilirating takedown and volley adept can 100% be nixed
thinking of subbing in one motion instead which leaves one point up for grabs
hybrid plover
And all of the grenade nodes on krak
See this is why I don't trust gameslantern propaganda
And no agile engagement
calm shard
And all of the grenade nodes on krak
I actually run this with exe build