veteran-class

[honest quiver]

his name is herbert goering

[calm shard]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0067206-0f4d-47a3-ac89-fcd7a0bb54fe/shotgun-yeah-they-do-that what if executioner's stance shotgun

[willow prairie]

dinner

😋

[old cobalt]

if i look that up, is it going to be a na--

god fucking damnit

[honest quiver]

dont let his looks deceive you he is a Monster

[old cobalt]

wait

that look wrong

theeere we go

[noble nexus]

Is rending not good on shotgun?

[tall torrent]

Exe stance shotgun is real
Would suggest using mk7 tho

[old cobalt]

oh actual veteran question

[honest quiver]

fun

[calm shard]

true but I like the zarona's comedy numbers into unyielding

[old cobalt]

Is it normal for a vet to drop like 80% of the specials on your own, look around and see that your team is, somehow, still fucking dying?

[tall torrent]

Outside of havoc premade, yea

[old cobalt]

poggers

i will

get used to this

[willow prairie]

fullbore moment

[old cobalt]

have a meme

[noble nexus]

This picture make me want there to be a bow in Darktide.

[old cobalt]

i want a virus bomb in darktide

let me kill myself

ill take the heretics down with me

[willow prairie]

be psyker

jihad

[old cobalt]

im already a jihadi gunker

i need more explode

okay i need coffe or i will pass tf out

i will return after da ciggy and da coffee

[noble nexus]

u ok there?

[old cobalt]

i woke up at 3pm and forgot to sleep

now its 8am

[atomic void]

https://tenor.com/view/memri-memri-tv-memri-tv-memes-memri-tv-shoe-shoe-gif-4241915845350486724

[old cobalt]

so i gotta like rawdog it until 4pm at LEAST

[willow prairie]

nothing more masculine than fucking another man

[tawdry osprey]

couldn't be me 💅

[old cobalt]

literally doesnt even involve woemn

women

[tawdry osprey]

i've been healthy sleeping for 2 weeks

[old cobalt]

tbh like imma be real

[tawdry osprey]

no one is on my level

not even @honest quiver

[old cobalt]

nothing is hotter than a man who is 100% secure in his masculinity

if a guy is confident enough to wear a skirt that's an immediately like +3 on the 1-10 scale

[tall torrent]

Helbore basically is the same function

[noble nexus]

yeah, and insecure men are hot when it's anything but about their masc

[old cobalt]

I would like helbore if the charge didnt reset when you right click

like i know its not a big deal but to me its REAL weird

[noble nexus]

counterpoint: lasers aren't arrows

[tall torrent]

Yea, same gameplay function tho

They’re not adding actual bows

[noble nexus]

I know that thx for rubbing it in

[wary thistle]

does someone have a good heavy lasbore (mk3) build

hellbore

[mortal aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/gachi-billy-herrington-motorcycle-tongue-out-bleh-gif-15453305

[tawdry osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-lee-sunglasses-reverse-hd-gif-22311481

[noble nexus]

been running aurics with this setup. some nodes are changeable.

[honest quiver]

incorrect

[wary thistle]

thanks can you also send the your helbore blessing etc

[honest quiver]

im worky now

[calm shard]

the mk 3 is the middle helbore not the heavy one

[noble nexus]

surgical and hot-shot/weight of fire the later is up to preference.

[wary thistle]

ok thank you

[tawdry osprey]

how long have you been healthy

[torn root]

why am i see twwh3 elves!?!?!?

in my DT

[tawdry osprey]

elves are the best

[torn root]

i almost threw up

[mortal aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/vermintide-kerillian-kruger-gif-7668792397127092646

[torn root]

my brothers are all lost to the warp and its deamons

[tawdry osprey]

she got me

[old cobalt]

yall ever lose an entire squad to a single poxburster?

[noble nexus]

IMO elves are just plot devices to have superhumans while keeping actual humans grounded

[torn root]

no but yesterday im pretty sure i got shafted by one

[novel saddle]

Oh right, I was trying to remember why I hate it.

[honest quiver]

forever .

[calm shard]

I've had a crusher kill 3 people at the same time in havoc

does that count

[old cobalt]

no

[tawdry osprey]

don't lie to me

[old cobalt]

i lost an entire squad, myself included, to a single poxburster in meyhem

there was a ledge

We... We flew very far

[torn root]

i got gangbanged by a Pogryn and a Muty yesterday XD

[old cobalt]

i think the funniest wipe i ever had was in the karnak twins mission

[calm shard]

https://fximgur.com/a/FXyu6yG

[old cobalt]

yall know that room thats pitch black with a single platform?

[formal hamlet]

What is the meta plasma gun / duelling sword build for Vet?

[old cobalt]

the gas fills up around it and enemies come out of it?

[calm shard]

well dueling sword isn't meta on vet because the power sword is somehow even more broken

so

[torn root]

Mister E has a video on it, and sadly does tanner, but its pretty much the same, pick one

[old cobalt]

4 trappers. Reduced visibility modifier. We couldn't see any of them.

Also yes i need more vet builds

[torn root]

DS is meta on vet still

[tall torrent]

Nah

It’s power sword

[calm shard]

not a chance

[old cobalt]

okay why is power sword so cracked?

[torn root]

even with Psword being a thing, ppl pref the movement no?

[old cobalt]

what makes it so good?

[calm shard]

2 shot crushers, crazy high cleave

[formal hamlet]

What the hell? Power sword is superior to duelling sword? Well that's good news for me since PS is my main melee, but what makes it the very best?

[old cobalt]

you fucking what crushers

[calm shard]

straight up the best mixed horde cleave NOT COUNTING PSYKER in the game

[tall torrent]

Wins in every dps metric lol

[novel saddle]

The power part

[calm shard]

excellent boss damage too

[torn root]

i shared a clip few days ago

[formal hamlet]

Mister E's video has DS as the meta pick.

[torn root]

you 2 shot

[tall torrent]

It doesn’t 2 tap without crit now

[calm shard]

Well yeah but it still can

[torn root]

because there are ppl using it in h40, not just him and tanner

[old cobalt]

i asked this question earlier but do you want 100% uptime on the charge?

Charge > Swing > Swing > Charge > Swing > Swing

[tall torrent]

Yea

[calm shard]

yeah never ever swing uncharged

even if it's one poxwalker you turn the sword on and swing it

[old cobalt]

if i want to swing while uncharged, push instead

[noble nexus]

I think between DS an PS, the one you can use better is the more meta one.

[old cobalt]

?

[noble nexus]

both are good it's up to you.

[novel saddle]

Personal preference

[formal hamlet]

Problem with this I have is when ragers or whatever ambush me, I can't get a charge while they're wilding swinging in my face since getting hit cancels it. I love PS but that aspect of it is where I struggle most; surrounded and can't power it up. Guess I need to use my frags more seriously.

[old cobalt]

that was my main concern

I think I'll just run DC/DS

and be happy about it

because DC does seem to actually handle crowds p fuckin well

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664591642967408640/1423416754776051872/havoc.mp4?ex=68e0e468&is=68df92e8&hm=060dab2b04fb25a119f70b2d4cc48e5ed05028c5859a91ef2706fa5d05c2a038&

[formal hamlet]

PS I've been using since day one and it's my favourite, DS I only recently started using since it was meta, looks goofy, but I can't deny how well it was murdering specials and elites. Problem is it made my horde clear problem even worse, I felt like I had to rely on others to horde clear for me.

[old cobalt]

[torn root]

not meta, but iirc to 2 shot h40 crushers you need to double crit with a fully stacked 45% damage from left tree and WS

[old cobalt]

that -is- funny

[tall torrent]

Havoc crusher 2 tap is super RNG

[torn root]

or just ping them

which is 0 rng XD

[old cobalt]

okay okay so looking at more vet builds

[tall torrent]

Still need 2 crit lol

[old cobalt]

I am VERY happy with my recon lasgun build

[formal hamlet]

Yeah in these situations I don't have a problem, it's when I have like 4-6 of those unarmoured ragers in my face out of nowhere and my team is not helping me take them down.

[tall torrent]

Dreg rager is actually easier

[noble nexus]

what's yer ability?

[old cobalt]

I wanna make a Weapon Specialist/Agile Engagement build

[torn root]

the video i put up was with surnder btw, i probably could still get the 2 tap

[old cobalt]

tips?

[torn root]

especially with the 20% from that crit node

proced off of something else

[formal hamlet]

Normally I bring shout but I've been trying to use exec stance more since people said I shouldn't use shout as a crutch.

[tall torrent]

Havoc 40 crusher has 9750 hp

[old cobalt]

thats what im doing

[torn root]

og and im not using agile engagement

[old cobalt]

learning exe stance and fury of the righteous to suck less

[tall torrent]

You’re not getting a 2 tap without both being crit

[torn root]

if its less than 10k i 100% can 2 tap them

lmao

[tall torrent]

Yea both crit

Otherwise no

[torn root]

again no crit, just the gold ping

[noble nexus]

well if people wanted you to not use shout to crutch, they shouldn't have let you become surrounded hmm?

[torn root]

the clip was just skirmisher and the ping

if i actually have the 45% damage from agile and the crit node i cant rememebr the name it wouldnt need to crit even once

[formal hamlet]

So uh, I just copy this Mister E build but swap out the DS for the PS?

[tall torrent]

Wat build

[old cobalt]

wait does Agile Engagement actually CLASH with Weapons Specialist?

[steep flower]

What a mistake

[torn root]

Mister E and tanner have meta projections

[old cobalt]

Because its incentivising you NOT to stack?

[formal hamlet]

I was told this was the meta Vet build to copy.

[tall torrent]

No

[torn root]

both go indepth but im agreeing that DS is probably better for a majority of ppl

because of mobility

[tall torrent]

I’m not watching that just show a pic of what the build is

[torn root]

DS Plasma

rending thrust

[formal hamlet]

If you go to 5:28 you can see the overview.

[torn root]

fully stacked rending on DS can 2 shot crushers i think if you get crits

[tall torrent]

That’s just a generalist vet build it’s not weapon dependent

[formal hamlet]

Oh, maybe similar to the one you sent me then.

[languid sparrow]

got a build? That is insane

[torn root]

still in progress , lmao but its click intensive

[old cobalt]

Do I need to swap any nodes around here?

[noble nexus]

this is such a selfish take honestly. wanting you to contribute to the team while them just leaving you to defend for yourself is just bullshit.

[torn root]

i havent got my 17% toughness curio yet so im kinda struggling

[tall torrent]

Yea get agile engagement + 25 TGH

[old cobalt]

i think they meant more as, "learn to survive WITHOUT shout"

[languid sparrow]

lay it on me when youre done cause im very interested

[torn root]

i want to drop 25 toughness for agile engagement

[old cobalt]

so you dont need to 24/7 just to not die

alriiight

preferred weapons for Weapon Specialist?

[formal hamlet]

Oh no, different people. People in this channel wanted me to not use it as a crutch, I queue with randoms in-game and those people will do all sorts of crazy crap.

[torn root]

25 toughness is optional, but agile engagemnt and on your toes i think are just good enougb to not pass

[old cobalt]

Weapon Specialist seems like it'd REALLY like Zarona Mk IIa

[torn root]

on your toes tops your toughness very well

[noble nexus]

oh I misunderstood then.

[torn root]

as you are killing hordes it helps you swap to plasma and pop prio targets

since the 25% ranged damage is basically up all the time

[old cobalt]

oh, use plasma because it says

[tall torrent]

You’re almost 2 years late to finding that out

[old cobalt]

"fuck you" to the special and also EVERYTHING in between you and the special

[steel veldt]

YES

[old cobalt]

vet was my least played class until VERY recently

[noble nexus]

Still, getting raided by dozen ragers sounds like more of a problem you should learn to AVOID rather than OVERCOME.

[old cobalt]

im also still learning

[old cobalt]

i mean arguably learning to take out a dozen ragers is infinitely better than learning to avoid them but

(i jest)

[formal hamlet]

So would this mean there's also a power sword / plasma gun centric build? Since I want to build around those two.

[old cobalt]

I... I think our convos just converged.

Okay, so would Power Sword/Plasma Gun be a real good setup for Weapon Specialist then?

[tall torrent]

Krak + VoC
Power sword VI (unyielding, carapace, power cycler, sunder)
Plasma gun (unarmored, flak, gets hot, rising heat)

[old cobalt]

this is what i was lookin for

yeah

[formal hamlet]

Sweep a horde with PS and then swap to plasma for prio target, sounds like it'd have good synergy.

[noble nexus]

more specifically, getting surrounded by ragers. I don't think you should be able to power though that.

[old cobalt]

this is literally the build iu have set up actually

[formal hamlet]

Honestly I use the ping ability most, even though I hear WS is the best.

[old cobalt]

looks like we're using the ability lmao

ping is VERY nice

[turbid ibex]

I wouldve imagined plasma wants the reload on swap modifier from WS

Cause of that super slow reload

[tall torrent]

That’s an IQ tax

[turbid ibex]

What

[barren nimbus]

The shout hatred here is really cringe and stupid. Shout is probably a top 3 ability in this game now that chorus sucks

[tall torrent]

Yea

It’s not needed

[formal hamlet]

What's the thinking behind kraks over frags? Doesn't my plasma handle krak targets anyway?

[slow spade]

The problem with ping keystone imo is that the nodes leading to Weapon Specialist are better than Ping

[old cobalt]

is Tinker over Grenadier just personal preference?

[tall torrent]

Rot armor

[torn root]

another sunder user

aye

[slow spade]

Ping is +20% damage but Agile Engagement alone is +25%

[torn root]

but i swaped to Bm for the 2 tap hehe

[tall torrent]

Tinkerer gives crusher 1 shot in havoc

[tall torrent]

They’re not the same +damage bonus

FT is usually more

[slow spade]

Then you get Skirmisher and beat it anyways

[torn root]

20% damage taken is higher than 25% increased damage

[old cobalt]

so if im just doing auric Grenadier is probably better?

[slow spade]

Then you get Skirmisher

[old cobalt]

ping is also just VERY easy to use

[tall torrent]

Auric u prob can skip both grenadier and tinkerer if u have superiority complex + BiD

[torn root]

skirmisher + focus target is more damage than skirmisher + agile engagement --- this is just a fact and testable, not saying anyone but me would take focus target

[old cobalt]

super low skill floor

[turbid ibex]

My main issue with ping keystone is that building stacks is completely passive

[old cobalt]

Bring it Down?

[tall torrent]

Yea

[noble nexus]

IMO the ping shouldn't have stacks.

[slow spade]

If only you couldn't just get Agile Engagement + Skirmisher + Exploit Weakness

All connected together

[tall torrent]

Krak base damage vs carapace is 4800

[old cobalt]

okay, got it

that fres me up a point to throw into Field Improv

[turbid ibex]

I like the stacks because of the modifiers

[slow spade]

Oh look Weapon Specialiat is there too

[tall torrent]

With SC + BiD + skirmisher (1 stack) you can 1 tap crusher (6500 hp)

[torn root]

i mean im using all of those with focus target lmao

im just stating that 1 combo is already more damage than if you used almost 3 together

[slow spade]

Then you're stretched thin

[torn root]

nah, im just not WS

[old cobalt]

actually

[noble nexus]

the mods are good but I think they would do fine even if the stacks aren;t a thing.

[torn root]

there is no one way to play

[slow spade]

Well you do you lol

[old cobalt]

if I'm not taking Exe Stance, is Get Back in the Fight any good as a replacement for stun immunity?

[tall torrent]

No, it’s abysmal dogshit

[old cobalt]

got it

[torn root]

ill let the WS andy players do them, i like killing shit with my PS and Vraks

[slow spade]

It will not save you like ever

[torn root]

same way ppl dont think DS is meta over PS same way i dont think WS is the only way to play -- we all got our ideals

[turbid ibex]

If it was the case focus target would be an even more boring keystone imo

[old cobalt]

okay, so build adjusted for preference...

Now the weapons

[noble nexus]

I need more elaboration please.

[old cobalt]

i literally have ping bound to m2

[turbid ibex]

If there was a way for you to actively build stacks and it had some bonus for killing the pinged enemy that scaled with the amount of stacks at base it would be a lot more engaging to use

[old cobalt]

focus target requires zero cognitive thought

none

at all

"Don't spam ping" is the skill ceiling

thats it lmao

[noble nexus]

I think just gaining flat buffs rather than stacks would feel more impactful

[void dragon]

Task failed, I'm marking every enemy in sight

[old cobalt]

mobility dump on PS?

[slow spade]

The stacks are probably to discourage ping spamming

[willow prairie]

focus target only work if you remember it exist

[torn root]

this is correct

[slow spade]

They regen so fast you'd have to be spamming it

[torn root]

not much to thik about

[void dragon]

Isn't Psword dump cleave?

[old cobalt]

i dont fuckin know im askin

lmao

[torn root]

you get 4 stacks every 3 seconds, even if you were spamming it you still get value

[tall torrent]

Cleave targets

[formal hamlet]

My PS dump is mobility.

[void dragon]

I feel sorry for you

[old cobalt]

10 consecutive 80 cleave rolls

thanks

[void dragon]

That sword is slow as molasses

[tall torrent]

WS is not the only way to play vet
But power sword is pretty significantly ahead of every other melee on vet including DS

[formal hamlet]

Time to get a new PS.

[slow spade]

80% cleave is like +1 target

80% mobility is like +15% speed or something

[formal hamlet]

I was told to dump into mobility when I farmed this thing. That was a long time ago though.

[tall torrent]

It’s not +1 target

[turbid ibex]

Ye the time it takes to reach max stacks isnt the problem

[slow spade]

Cleave? Idk what terminology to use

[noble nexus]

say that to Boston lol

[old cobalt]

and dump for plas gun?

[tall torrent]

It’s 0.8 cleave difference for energized attacks
Which becomes 3.2 for sunder in which case u can cleave 1 extra Dreg rager (going from 11 to 12)

And I don’t think it matters

[torn root]

this is an opinion, that i share a sentiment to, but i doubt we're analyszing the meta the same was as other ppl, if you watched the videos prio to the ones that came out they make valid points as to why DS was meta for so long

[slow spade]

Ah ok

[torn root]

we not gunna act like DS got nerfed for no reason

if they say its meta it has some weight fr

[turbid ibex]

Its just a lame keystone because its almost entirely passive

[tall torrent]

“Meta” because 99.9% of vet players have zero melee fundamentals, and duelling sword was made for psyker players therefore has nonexistent complexity

[torn root]

DS has no special action required to get its top damage, just poke

[slow spade]

Which some players couldn't even do 😔

[torn root]

again my cup of tea lies with the PS, but im not gunna call it meta, because it actually requires some fundamentals that ppl cant clock

lmao

[void dragon]

I can confirm, players constantly fail their stabs

[torn root]

half of the players cant even animation cancle

why would i call it the most effective tactic for those players

[tall torrent]

Nah it’s very obviously the strongest option lol

[willow prairie]

how the fuck do you use ps and don't see it as broken as fuck lmao

[old cobalt]

FUCK

[willow prairie]

top 1 melee in the game atm

[slow spade]

The only thing DS has going over PS is dodges

[void dragon]

Psword power is that big, it is certainly meta in a sea of meh weapons

[noble nexus]

IMO if FT have to have stacks I think rather than stacking on time, stacking on killed pinged enemies would work more better.

[formal hamlet]

Speaking of this. I swear I must be doing it wrong because the time difference between block cancelling the charge over just pressing charge and spamming attack feels the same.

[torn root]

which they value, because bad players get more leverage out of mobility

yall not thinking about base line players

whcih yall are clearly above

PS is ACTUALLY a clunky weapon

[slow spade]

That's just wrong because a BAD Darktide player doesn't even dodge

[torn root]

you get more leverage out of it with skill and knowing animation cancles

[turbid ibex]

Maybe both

[torn root]

its effective IN the right hands

[void dragon]

You don't need to run if everything you touch dies

[torn root]

not AS effective as the braindead option

[slow spade]

Ironic you say that because you not knowing the average player doesn't dodge means you're out of touch

[turbid ibex]

Just have it so the player can actively build up their stacks

[formal hamlet]

This is kinda true as a bad player I block on instinct rather than dodge. I've been trying to force myself to dodge > block because it turns out blocking cancels buffs from my skill tree.

[torn root]

they run, and they spam, more than they would animation cancel tho

so im not gunna lie

[void dragon]

Me trying to protect a sparkhead that clearly doesn't know what melee combat looks like: true

[torn root]

i think you might be more out of touch

let me see you animation cancle 5x back to back and show me an average player doing that

[slow spade]

Sure bud

[torn root]

its not something you passively do without practice

[formal hamlet]

What is said animation cancel? I wonder if I'm doing it.

[torn root]

matter of fact its always an active think in head

[slow spade]

Energize -> block immediately

[void dragon]

Just dodge bruh -Averange Dark Souls gamer

[formal hamlet]

Oh, I do that all the time yeah.

[torn root]

energize block swing

if you just block its not as short

[void dragon]

Energize, PUSH(attack), swing

[formal hamlet]

That explains why sometimes it doesn't feel like it cancels much.

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-get-good-git-gud-gif-14085097

[torn root]

you can energize block swing into hordes

for the cleaving swipe

it gets rid of a few frames

[slow spade]

It's a shame the Mk3 psword can't cancel

[willow prairie]

it's the shit one

[slow spade]

I prefer its horizontal heavies for Sunder :c

[willow prairie]

sunder work on all attack

[slow spade]

Yeah but +20% damage too

[torn root]

if that's not noticable thats an issue

[slow spade]

Can't go wrong with that

[torn root]

thats almost half the frames gone on the 3rd and its more iirc on the stab

[old cobalt]

no one told me this shit was gonna be so expensive T-T

[void dragon]

The dangers of gambling and its consequences, you will get it believe

[formal hamlet]

I cleared H40 one time and it gave me so much of this stuff. I need to find more people to carry me through that.

[slow spade]

If it makes you feel better, it used to cost literal millions of dockets for a perfect roll c:

[slow spade]

Yeah just doing 1 Havoc weekly goes such a long way for resources

[formal hamlet]

Oh damn they ran out of dockets first, normally it's the diamantine that gets me I think.

[void dragon]

It still is for some weapons (PTSD flashbacks to get a perfect Plasma gun)

[willow prairie]

just play havoc

[slow spade]

Yippie :D

[torn root]

the price of progress

[willow prairie]

just run maelstrom if you need docket

diamantine never run out after your second h40 run

[slow spade]

Na Rolling Steel Aurics

50k dockets for 10 minutes of time lol

[torn root]

i have never ran out of diamantine

[void dragon]

Aurics will net you enough to gamble for guns

[torn root]

always plasteel or dockets

[old cobalt]

i bought 30 plasma rifles

[torn root]

even right now i am broke

[old cobalt]

10k each

[slow spade]

Empowering a gun from 300-500 takes roughly 3k diamantine

[torn root]

diamanteen never gets below 30k

[old cobalt]

I have gambled for god rolls on like

4 weapons this week

[slow spade]

Diamantine is the bottleneck these days for new players

[torn root]

yeah but if you pay the cost for the base roll, and even if you had to max out a weapon from lvl 0, its 3.4k plasteel

and next to no diamantine cost

then if i wanna max the weapon out its more plasteel

and again like no diamantine

[old cobalt]

looks like i gotta grind

[slow spade]

You can get 1000 plasteel from a damnation compared to 300 diamantine

[willow prairie]

play havoc if you need mat

[tall torrent]

Plasteel legit worthless lol

[torn root]

you think i use these shitty weapons before they are maxed?

[slow spade]

Yeah

[torn root]

hell nah

[tall torrent]

Diamantine and docket are limiters

[slow spade]

Plasteel is like water

[torn root]

i but weapon

max it

play it

lmao

[tall torrent]

Diamantine is just used way more

[torn root]

diamantine doesnt go down

[calm shard]

back in MY day you got like 200 plasteel and some change

and we HATED IT

[willow prairie]

ok grandpa

my beloved said kill yourself

[torn root]

idk if im missing something, my diamantine has NEVER been low XD

[old cobalt]

time to get back to grinding

T-T

[slow spade]

"We used to run Malices for plasteel and we LIKED it"

[calm shard]

https://tenor.com/view/boneworks-kms-suicide-cockandballtortureisfunnyhaha-revolver-gif-19983342

[torn root]

only thing i suffer with is plasteel and dockets

[old cobalt]

when i first started on launch

[torn root]

mostly plasteel

[tall torrent]

Diamantine going down is noticeable, plasteel going down isn’t

[old cobalt]

i'd be sitting on TONS of plasteel and screeching for diamantine

dockets were... eh?

[torn root]

are we doing different things with ours maybe?

[old cobalt]

they stayed realtively low but always had enough

[torn root]

how do you max your gear?

[willow prairie]

I never have docket because i gamble

[willow prairie]

yeah havoc thing

[torn root]

like check it

[willow prairie]

just play like 2 game and you never run out

[torn root]

Power falshion is at 0

i can max it right now

and would run out of plasteel

[tall torrent]

Buy until good stat roll, consecrate to max, change perks and blessings to what I want, empower to max

[torn root]

depends on how you are using it

[torn root]

NO!

why would you do it that way?

buy a base gray that has the stats you want

[willow prairie]

because time is limited

[tall torrent]

That’s literally the first step I wrote

[torn root]

max it then when i has the gold if its lower mastery

you make bases into greens and sac them

[last marten]

my class is vet and my characters dead, work like a pox hound to keep my gun fed

[torn root]

then when your mastery is full

you empower it all the way up

why you rerolling all your diamantine?

[tall torrent]

I had full mastery day1 of crafting rework lol

[willow prairie]

literally what the man said

[tall torrent]

It’s ez

[torn root]

it costs literally no diamantine if you wanted it to

[tall torrent]

1 gold 500 power weapon is like 2k Diamantine each

[torn root]

yeah but each weapon only has like 1-2 pref rolls

[slow spade]

It's 3k based on my recent Falchion :c

[tall torrent]

Oh forgot

I haven’t checked Diamantine costs in a while

[formal hamlet]

On my other power sword I use brutal momentum, I heard that was good. What makes sunder the better pick here? It's not one I've normally seen some up.

[torn root]

its low af

[tall torrent]

But the rate at which u get Diamantine is like 1/5 of plasteel

[torn root]

like no cap

[tall torrent]

So Diamantine runs out first usually

[slow spade]

The cost goes up from 100 scaling to 150 diamantine per upgrade

[tall torrent]

Sunder is better for mixed horde

[torn root]

490-500 is 100 diamantine 150 plasteel

the ratios are favored heavily for diamantine

[slow spade]

Oh shit I'm stupid

It's plasteel

[torn root]

yall are capping hard XD

[slow spade]

Sorry my bad D:

[torn root]

like what?!

im too adhd and ocd for this lmao

yall made me think i was going crazy

[slow spade]

Still though you can get 1000 plasteel vs 300 diamantine per damnation

Regardless, diamantine is the limiter

[torn root]

like i was on a diff version of the game or something

[slow spade]

Like objectively

[torn root]

and im here crying about my plasteel

[tall torrent]

Buddy u get plasteel 5x more than Diamantine lol

[torn root]

i have NEVER ran out of diamantine

EVER in the history of this game

lmao

now dockets and plasteel

thats an hourly basis

soon to be done with everything

[willow prairie]

what was bro doing

[slow spade]

I'm going to be frank, numerically I have no clue how plasteel is a bottleneck

[willow prairie]

plasteel is plenty

[slow spade]

Even consecrations are pretty cheap

[willow prairie]

Honestly I've never run out of mat since havoc

only docket

[distant mural]

Fire is fckn bs in this game

[slow spade]

Always has been

At least it doesn't almost instant kill you anymore

[formal hamlet]

Plasma gun dump is charge rate yeah?

Now I'm paranoid after using the wrong damp on my PS for all these years.

[torn root]

the process

the only diamantine cost is when you empower

[slow spade]

Na, plasma wants all stats so typically a 70/70 split or 69/71 works

[distant mural]

Just got grabbed by a mutie who carried me into fire wich insakilled me xD

[slow spade]

Oh a damned soul arrived

Do we just ping mods?

Ah ok

[formal hamlet]

Mods ping us.

[slow spade]

Yippie :D

[topaz lance]

Is the power falchion as mid as I feel it is?

[slow spade]

Yeah that's how it be :c

[torn root]

and the final part also cost no diamantine

if you are missing much its on yall XD

go max your weapons out now

[formal hamlet]

Goddamn it.

[slow spade]

It is very mid

[torn root]

254 plasteel per roll to get progress

[slow spade]

Bad blessings + hard to use moveset

[willow prairie]

wdym hard to use

[slow spade]

I personally struggled to handle rager hordes

[willow prairie]

aradin is pretty much same moveset as mkx relic blade

[formal hamlet]

Same.

[willow prairie]

the other mark is similar to mk2 relic blade

aka shit and not worth using

[torn root]

wanna see something funny?

[slow spade]

Idk what move combo to use to handle ragers with Falchion and sadly there is a lot of ragers

[formal hamlet]

They're fine when not focussed on me, but when there are 4-6 charging specifically for me I pray I have shout / frags to stagger.

[torn root]

does power falchion not stagger them before they start swinging?

[noble nexus]

yee-hah revolver build (compatible with the other revolver)

[slow spade]

No (unless I built mine wrong)

[formal hamlet]

Can't recall, I only used it a little and decided I prefer my power sword.

[torn root]

why is it when you ping me i get no yellow

lmao

[slow spade]

I purposely disable the ping

As I know you're here

I forget sometimes

[formal hamlet]

To not disturb you.

[torn root]

you messing with me?

[slow spade]

Nope, I try to do it for all my messages if I can

[torn root]

ngl didnt even know that was a thing

[formal hamlet]

I'd use it more myself but it requires me to mouse click and screw that.

[torn root]

i feel like im gunna max out the power falchion and not like it

but i think i saw someone 2 shotting a crusher with it yesterday

[slow spade]

I think you can disable pings in settings now but I do it out of reflex now

[slow spade]

Falchion REALLY does not like elite hordes

[torn root]

🙁

[slow spade]

You probably can but it's likely way too much setup

[torn root]

so no havoc with it until i get my skills back

[willow prairie]

yeah unlike relic blade

[slow spade]

Yeah it's a "good on paper, bad in practice" weapon

[slow spade]

Indeed :c

I wonder if more stagger or higher damage would give it a niche

[formal hamlet]

@tall torrent do you happen to have builds for helbore, recon lasgun and revolver as well? I assume I'd want to tweak some talents over the generalist one you sent me for those weapons.

[willow prairie]

relic blade also have safety and range so there that

[slow spade]

True :c it's such a shame. It only felt good once I slapped on WS build

But any melee would feel good with WS

[turbid ibex]

Achlys caxe

[frank basin]

Antax axe

[slow spade]

They're trying their best :c

[old cobalt]

i dont remember who told me to use the other lasgun variant but

oh my got

i love this thing so much

[formal hamlet]

So we got power sword at peak vet melee, duelling sword is up there, what else? Tactical axe and combat knife?

[willow prairie]

knife

tac axe still have armor damage problem

[slow spade]

For non-Havocs, I like Rashad

[old cobalt]

Combat Axe is THE all-rounder pick

[turbid ibex]

Rashad caxe

[old cobalt]

rashad is goated

[willow prairie]

rashad is mid nowaday

[formal hamlet]

I do like to mix in some rashad in lower diffs, the strike down feels kinda satisfying.

[slow spade]

Yeah the hp buff to scabs hurt

[willow prairie]

it never been good against elites pack and only usable on chaff

heavies are slow

[slow spade]

Rashad staggers elites with push attack

Even staggers out of combos

[torn root]

what is the fastest ttk on Pogryn as vet? im gunna try soemthing funny in havoc today

[formal hamlet]

Can you use either combat knife mark? Because I have Mk VI on vet, but my zealot uses the other one.

[willow prairie]

vi is the better one

mk3 is shit

[formal hamlet]

Why?

[willow prairie]

zero horde clear and mk6 have better single target anyway

[formal hamlet]

I see.

Wasn't there some trick to moving faster like sliding while slashing my melee? I forget how.

I was told to practice it.

[wind patio]

How is the good ol' infantry lasgun for shooting?

[crude wind]

Probably one of the weakest weapons in the game atm

[wind patio]

aww

[formal hamlet]

I want to like it since it actually has good sights but it feels very meh.

[crude wind]

Hoping it gets looked at asap

Cause thematically I love it

[torn root]

they moved the shock trooper node, so its kinda weak now

[crude wind]

It's the Guard weapon

[torn root]

hard to get a lot of value out of it unless you ignore a keystone i think

[formal hamlet]

Does that apply to recon lasgun too then?

[wind patio]

I feel like if you're going infantry you kinda need infantry

ERR

[crude wind]

Biggest issues are it's recoil, cross hair disconnect and abysmal values into Flak

[slow spade]

Funny thing about the ilas is the High damage, low firerate one hasn't been touched pretty much since Release. So you can see the powercreep :p

[wind patio]

Focus fire

[torn root]

actually i guess you can just go WS and ignore Wexploit -- idk that sounds bad

[crude wind]

Tbf the whole game has changed from release

You used to actually have to work together pre patch 13

[formal hamlet]

You know what hasn't changed much? This optimisation.

[turbid ibex]

Also bad mobility and deceptively low ammo count

[crude wind]

When the trees came out then Herotide begun

[slow spade]

But not the humble ilas High damage, low firerate one

Even patch 13 didn't touch that one

[crude wind]

I hope they do vigilants and ilas in the next balance pass

Vigilants still suck and ilas is... Well yeah

[slow spade]

To be fair, the trees are way more interesting

[crude wind]

Agree

But they did completely change the game as a result of existing

[slow spade]

Yeah :c

[frank basin]

I miss Unwavering fire and Sustain Fire

That is the Best combo with my machine gun

[slow spade]

The vet hiding in a corner with Camo Expert UwU

[torn root]

fat shark should bring back coherency circle

so ppl can learn wtf it is XD

[slow spade]

I would really like to see my coherency range

A lot of my Vet builds tie a lot into coherency :c

[torn root]

i think i kinda of unserstand why it was removed

but i feel like it should have stayed in as an option

transparency should always have a place in game

[turbid ibex]

Speaking of coherency

Y'know what would be funny

[slow spade]

Indeed, at least 3-5 of my talents rely on coherency and I have no clue if I'm in Coherency

[torn root]

i refuse to wear my ugly helm

[turbid ibex]

Imagine if all the "+x% coherency radius" talents also applied to allies

[frank basin]

The balaclava is what my outfit like

[torn root]

well we lose the circle and you know what we got?!!? a tiny little skull that half of players dont even pay attention to

[old cobalt]

how do you guys cope with randos

[turbid ibex]

So if you took the +50% coherency radius talent on vet now everybody in your coherency range has 12 meters coherency

[frank basin]

We just carry them

[hearty panther]

I don't. I just move on with my life.

[slow spade]

Lol yeah that would be funny. Especially with a grenade build

[old cobalt]

like im struggling to grind out auric because I'll drop 20+ elites alone, turn around, and a single crusher has downed all 3 of my squdmates

[wind patio]

tbf I feel like any significant flak weakpoints are still in one shot range sans scab rager, it's just
Way too demanding of a playstyle for similar rewards to other shooter playstyles

[analog mural]

Randos add to the fun, not take away from it

[frank basin]

That is one time happen

[torn root]

as of 2 days ago, treat them like they dont exist

[old cobalt]

wtf happened 2 days ago?

[slow spade]

I don't

[torn root]

wanna help me test some stuff?

i wont be heavy

BUT

my hands are in shambles atm

[old cobalt]

in damnation?

[torn root]

no

[old cobalt]

because i aint even TO auric yet

[torn root]

i dont play damnation

lmao

oh

[frank basin]

He play auric

[steep flower]

I wish i had that helmet

[torn root]

we will get you there!

[slow spade]

Kuro does Havoc 40s only UwU

[old cobalt]

5 of the last 5 games i've played were ls

[steep flower]

Cause it looks good

[torn root]

why, its ugly

[old cobalt]

3 were backfill instalosses

1 was the 3 kill crusher thing i mentioned

[torn root]

i have only ever been in h40 like 2 times, because i cant get a consistent team

[slow spade]

Yeah Fatshark servers are dumb

[torn root]

and am very bad at the game

[old cobalt]

and the other i think i got 4 rescues

[frank basin]

Auric is maybe look harder, it increase enemy presence

[torn root]

maybe more than 2, but only 2 times that i can recollect

[old cobalt]

i can clear auric no problem

[slow spade]

Just joking :p

[steep flower]

I wish i could get to h40; crashes prevent it

[old cobalt]

ive done it before on way shittier builds

[slow spade]

I still die :c

[frank basin]

Then kuro need you in auric

[torn root]

crashes made me give up on havoc for the time being

[old cobalt]

but oh my god these damnation squadmates are

PHEW

[slow spade]

Ikr, pisses me off so much

[frank basin]

Damnation is my main course

I eat them

[old cobalt]

Like if I had one squadmate with a functioning braincell

id be set

[steep flower]

Dogwater teammates that is

[slow spade]

I'm exclusively Auric and Damnations until the fucking servers are more stable

At least Maelstroms are funny

[wind patio]

I typically avoid havoc. Don't like sweating so much and being at the mercy of whatever blokes the Emperor decides are coming with me.

[old cobalt]

also i had my first exe stance panic moment

[frank basin]

I would go again with 5 wound crystalline will psyker

[slow spade]

"Extra barrels"

[torn root]

stop spitting fact-- ive been conscripting psykers so i dont lose anymore

[slow spade]

I just do one for the weekly chest

[old cobalt]

Lights out mission. See one shotgunner. "I guess I'll see if there are any others."
entire screen turns yellow

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-scream-shout-sad-gif-15786007

[slow spade]

Lol yeah the shotgunner hordes are funny

[wind patio]

I remember being scared of shotgunners

[slow spade]

Many zealots die in the sea of shotgunners

[old cobalt]

i dont but i also had a stroke so my memory is ass

[frank basin]

Not martyrdom can die from it

[old cobalt]

IT WASNT A SHOTGUNNER HORDE

[torn root]

the amount of failed havoc runs ive had this week alone due to having negative team mates [in number] or not being able to relog in MY OWN HOSTED SESSIONS

[old cobalt]

It was an EVERYTHING horde

[wind patio]

I remember when they were

NERFED

[old cobalt]

on top of boss

[steep flower]

No Dodging?

[slow spade]

They used to be plasma gunner levels of dangerous WAY back

[wind patio]

From nuking you at medium range

[steep flower]

[wind patio]

And then they made the plasma gunner

[old cobalt]

just get toughness regen blessing

m1

blame team if u die

its what everyone else is fucking doing

[slow spade]

I wouldn't know they run off into the distance and die

[old cobalt]

zealot behavior

[steep flower]

Enemies within, enemies without is godtier; and no you can’t tank’em but heals grazes

If a build does not use that talent its already worse

[old cobalt]

ya

[steep flower]

Mandatory pick

[old cobalt]

EWEW is gr8

[slow spade]

If they at least tell us they're rushing the mission it wouldn't be as bad

[old cobalt]

okay im goin

[slow spade]

Good luck

[steep flower]

EWEW; just like OWO

[old cobalt]

back into the grind with whatever gaggle of prepubescent vasaline-fucking paste eaters I get to carry

[steep flower]

[old cobalt]

god i hate this game

[frank basin]

Everyone does

[slow spade]

You get used to it c:

[steep flower]

Why you play it then

[old cobalt]

i hate myself more

[torn root]

gamers are masochists -- all of them

[old cobalt]

3 BOTS?

ITS CHRISTMAS BOIS

I GOT 3 BOTS

[torn root]

give me the code!

[old cobalt]

eh huh wha

[frank basin]

He want join

[old cobalt]

oh

[slow spade]

Bots do their best

[old cobalt]

OH

[torn root]

i want to be carried *

[frank basin]

I’m going psyker 5 wound peril bomber

[old cobalt]

no wait if i inv you youll realize im the one getting carried

and im a total fucking fraud

[torn root]

impossible

if im in a server

im the only one allwed to be carried

happy lifting

[slow spade]

Turns out Nix has secretly unbound the dodge key UwU

[old cobalt]

steam friend code or?

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-we-all-lift-together-gif-19925077

[old cobalt]

dodging is for pussies

[steep flower]

Nah thats married men

[old cobalt]

just parry

[steep flower]

[slow spade]

sad Reciprocity noises (crit chance on dodge)

[old cobalt]

no im not talented into recpirocity

what are you talking about

shut up

[slow spade]

:3

[old cobalt]

did you want the steam friend code or?

[formal hamlet]

Man, after doing some havocs I was actually defaulting to aurics. Coming back to the game recently, forget aurics, the randos I'm playing with aren't even able to clear damnation or heresy.

[torn root]

steam or FS code

either is fine

you could just add me as my code is in my name

Fatshark code*

[steep flower]

Pepega inflation

[old cobalt]

im convinced these shit-huffers just load in and goon until they get carried to mission complete after completing the campaign once

or have had a lobotomy between completing uprising and now

[formal hamlet]

One of them shot a burster next to me and I remembered why I hate randoms.

[old cobalt]

shouldnt have stood next to it

clearly

[torn root]

ngl, i would stay in aurics, the players there are still trying to play the game

[void dragon]

It just means more work for Ogryn to protect lil humies for rashuns

[torn root]

in damnation i cant even test something new without fighting for my life solo

[steep flower]

Use creature spawner mod

[old cobalt]

i would kill for a gentle ogryn bf

imma be real

[formal hamlet]

Yeah I was just thinking this. Maybe I should just dive straight back into aurics, it does legit feel like lower diffs make things harder sometimes because the peopel you match with don't know what's going on.

[steep flower]

Massive Gay

[old cobalt]

not like irl i just want someone whos not gonna fucking abandon me

[steep flower]

[torn root]

i disabled it yesterday because i started crashing a bunch after turning on a trial

[frank basin]

yeah trial is notorious crashing

[willow prairie]

insane are still bugged

[torn root]

i swear we arent being toxic, but im affraid to say we might be onto something XD

[steep flower]

Just manually spawn what you wanna kill then

[old cobalt]

im not being toxic, my teammates are actively speedrunning CTE

Never, in any game, not tf2, or overwatch, have i had to ask myself so often

[steep flower]

I’m not toxic; i’m being honest

[old cobalt]

"What the FUCK is my team doing?"

Like the thing is i dont get mad at HARD content right

ever

its hard!! Youre doing you're best!

THIS IS DAMNATION

[torn root]

last problem is probably on me, but i cant see hp bars when i use the spawner and i couldnt find the toggle for it either

[void dragon]

Worry not, for you will be asking yourself that so much that you will not feel it eventually and accept it like part of nature

[frank basin]

imagine playing destiny 2 raid with randoms

[old cobalt]

HOW ARE YOU SHITHOLES FUCKING THIS UP?

[slow spade]

I typically just be more and more selfish they shittier they are

[hollow ibex]

damnation is the new heresy

[steep flower]

Need healthbars mod

[slow spade]

By the end of mission, I'll have a medkit and medstim and still not heal teammates

[torn root]

🙁

[void dragon]

Me when noob Arbys are still dying on command

[torn root]

@nix you declined me!

no!

[old cobalt]

I could have a toddler OD on fentanyl, throw them onto the keyboard mid siezure, and the collection of inputs i would get would probably result in a more competent teammate than some of these people

[old cobalt]

IM NOT EVEN TABBED IN

[torn root]

XD

[torn root]

holy... shit....

[maiden matrix]

What are the best blessings for the mk1 shovel?

[void dragon]

"A room full of chimpanzee on keyboards can clear a maelstrom auric with more success than you all!"

[steep flower]

Uncanny & decimator

[old cobalt]

try again

[maiden matrix]

Thx

[torn root]

sounds like half of my teams in league!

im not toxic!

[old cobalt]

being toxic is fine as long as you get creative with your insults

calling someone a slur is SO mw2

[void dragon]

You play League, which means you are already toxicity, ergo must be purged *puls Bistol with Inquisitorial intent

[old cobalt]

if they dont have a major depressive episode by the time youre done screaming at them, you're not doing it right

mentally dismantle them

make them want to uninstall

[torn root]

wait~! i havent touched it in 2 months!

[old cobalt]

make them drink

[torn root]

almost

[void dragon]

[torn root]

IVE ALWAYS LOVED DAEMONETTS AND I WONT LET YOU KEEP ME FROM MY SLANNESHI DARLING!

cause slannesh -- masochism?

my jokes are bad

[old cobalt]

oh gdi train mission

SINK OR SWIM BITCH

[void dragon]

Well, now I need the flamer

This will hurt a lot and then more

[void dragon]

You know that teams are going to make it from how efficiently they handle the first door of that mission

And it is more clear how much they care for their own team

[serene bough]

Stealing this

[gilded wraith]

My curio luck may never recover

21% Health, Real +3 Stamina.

[serene bough]

I should spend some melk bucks on random curios

I havent visited melk in several months

[slow spade]

My Arbites still doesn't have full 17% toughness curios

[slow spade]

I don't even know what to use melk stuff for

[gilded wraith]

Wish FS would do something to make something other than 2xtoughness viable.

[slow spade]

The last time I used melk was when Arbites came out so I bought a bunch of melk weapons and curios

[slow spade]

If you're a Marksman Focus user, I use 3 toughness curios because you get 0.5s stam delay

[gilded wraith]

Their current fix for 2x toughness meta is... 3x toughness meta!

[serene bough]

Only function was to get a decent weapon to grind mastery but for an old dog like me my melkbucks are just collecting dust

[slow spade]

Yeah once my arbites got the good stuff I never talked to melk again

[azure narwhal]

The 17% toughness curio hunt is never-ending it would seem

[torn root]

the 2 randoms were willing to let us sink

imma be the one to say that

we won tho

[slow spade]

Arbites get 5 curio options from melk and I STILL only have 2x 17% curios

[void dragon]

And once you get it, you will keep hunting for that one that looks pretty

[azure narwhal]

20000 tokens for 7 bagillion 16% toughness and 19% health curios thanks melk

[torn root]

melk hates anyone not playing on a psyker

[serene bough]

I should review my curios

[old cobalt]

i got 3 in 2000 tokens

want one

i just need a 21%

[torn root]

i rolled my 17% toughness curios yesterday and it was only on psyker i got it, my fault mostly

[serene bough]

I still run 2 toughness 1 stam

[azure narwhal]

He sure likes loner psyker

[slow spade]

Sadly no curio affects plasma gunners or toxbombers :c

I wish I could

[torn root]

i am one!

XD

[void dragon]

Hate tho be the only one that seems to rush first to help team and put suppression fire to help allies behind to move forward, like WHY people hate aiding their own team?

[azure narwhal]

Don't push it

[old cobalt]

corruption resist for tox bombers

[azure narwhal]

Same, male loner, how could i pass on the screeching german madman

[old cobalt]

also affects tox flamers and poxbursters

[slow spade]

Exec stance regen lets me facetank gunners now so I wish I could handle the new specialists better

[azure narwhal]

Vet is a blessing for the new plasma gunners

Well considering the vet can aim

[torn root]

if only the old fart liked my vet more

[slow spade]

Yeah but tox gas reduces your toughness regen and damages toughness. I mostly want to stop that

[old cobalt]

470 weapon

smh

[serene bough]

Im trying to build a exe ilas but im struggling on how to diverge my points

[old cobalt]

listen it HELPS

[void dragon]

Vet with a Lasgun build and Exe stance is a good middle finger to those, even pre nerfed ones

[frank basin]

35k diamantine and 1k plasteel

[old cobalt]

thats what im runnin' :3

[slow spade]

Indeed, the nerfed plasma gunners feel more fair

[torn root]

I NEVER HAVE PLASTEEL

[old cobalt]

if its yellow it dies

[azure narwhal]

Niceee. Got lucky enough for a +21% health on my psyker too

[slow spade]

REBREATHER FOR VET WHEN

[void dragon]

Recon or Helbore? (Inf Lasgun sucks)

[old cobalt]

Recon

VIc Dum Dum/Infernus

[void dragon]

Helbore is quite good to, so give it a try if you can eventually

[old cobalt]

it deletes entire rooms before the mag runs out

ive tried it

hate it

[grand perch]

HOW GLASS CANNON DO YOU WANNA GO

[slow spade]

I wish Marksman Recon didn't suck, the 15% rending would be so good :c

[torn root]

you want as low warpres on FGS -- i fucked up could have been at 38% but i empowered it unknowingly

[serene bough]

As glass cannon as one can be

Give me the damage and let me fold like paper when hit in melee

[void dragon]

*and so friendship with Nix ended
Jokes aside, it's a good weapon, can tap most enemies if you are willing to put effort on it

[slow spade]

Helbore Marksman Focus + Exec stance UwU

[old cobalt]

if charge didnt reset on left click

i might like it

but that weird little interaction makes me wanna die

err

right click

id fucking hope it resets on left click

[serene bough]

Sorry I want to use ilas and cripple myself

[torn root]

you will die a bit after doing this**

[slow spade]

Just like the good old days UwU

[grand perch]

ho boy wait until this match is over

[slow spade]

Vraks mk5 my beloved

The new vet rework feels a lot better to use Vraks now imo

Agile Engagement + Skirmisher + Exploit Weakness on top of WS's fire rate buff 👌

[tall torrent]

Gigadumping warp resistance is not really relevant

It’s better to be able to use more warp slash attacks even just for stagger

[torn root]

you know im weird

so you know i have a weird ass reason

lmao

[slow spade]

Clearly it's because you're a Tzeentch agent trying to edge the Warp

[torn root]

ngl

kinda spot on

[slow spade]

Brb calling the Inquisitor

[torn root]

XD

@old cobalt im sorry, i barreled myself

[formal hamlet]

Okay yeah even though I just died, auric people have their shit together 10x more. We wiped but it felt like a wipe over something reasonable, where as in damnation when team wipes I'm like wtf.

[old cobalt]

Correction

you barreled yourself, and a teammate

[void dragon]

I think only on specific vent builds you want to dump warp Res to warp slash like 2-3 times and so build up bleed and soulfire, but on others warp slash in melee for stagger is quite handy (and get access to Mk6 stab sooner)

[old cobalt]

I thought the fucking shotgunners got you

i just hear the casualty sound overlapping like

[torn root]

well its more like i saw its fuse and neglected to not move forward

[frank basin]

did you guys failed?

[old cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[torn root]

i never hit it

[old cobalt]

WE COULD HAVE WON THAT TOO

that has to be the WORST sniper spawn ive ever seen

my god

[frank basin]

ahh, sniper vent

[tawny timber]

IAG is so peak

[old cobalt]

i was 80% on revive

[torn root]

it happens

[torn root]

i refuse to not build around it

this one is kinda bad tho

ngl

[tawny timber]

🤝

[old cobalt]

IAG is recon lasgun for people who dont wanna build for recon lasgun

[tall torrent]

Nah it’s basically never worth dumping below 60

[old cobalt]

so i respect it

[tawny timber]

my most played build is either inflas vet or IAG gunker

scriers IAG is so much fun

I dump stability just for 💩 and giggles

[frank basin]

shit and giggle

[tawny timber]

💩

[void dragon]

Not even to have 2 warp slash for max fire vent? I found it quite useful in many cases, even if quite specific for that build style

[steel veldt]

I am addicted to assault chainsword

[shell spire]

Anyone got an updated vet stealth build

[frank basin]

yeah stealth is kinda more utility than teamplate support

unless you pick low profile

[shell spire]

Had something that tried to be similar to the stealth other class

[frank basin]

and pop enemy with sneak attack

[shell spire]

Whats it

Preachy dude

[frank basin]

zealot

or

[shell spire]

Yeah it

[frank basin]

you means shroudfield

[shell spire]

Like pop shroud for extra dps and it had super quick recharge, vet version was more lacking but workable with skill

Backstab pokies and stuff

[frank basin]

vet version is more of clutch situation but it lead aggro on other team

with low profile

[grand perch]

depending on your crit luck, and with MMF buffs + marksman up, this does between 2000 and 4800 dps against carapace

[shell spire]

Yeah yeah dont matter just gimme the ability to stealth and jungle a bit

[grand perch]

big number variation is due to crit

[tall torrent]

2 warp slashes (one of which is definitely 0 bar hence does basically no damage) is not enough to kill enough elites or specials to set off soulblaze chain reaction for vent shriek to actually wipe the floor

[shell spire]

Load me up ziggy!

[frank basin]

what your playstyle then?

[shell spire]

I used it to just do my own thing usually more away from team

Sustainable alone cause I aint no slouch

[frank basin]

oh wow