#veteran-class

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turbid ibex
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And range

silver patrol
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it would be very limited in ammo

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so it would be fine

toxic reef
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imagine running out of ammo on helbore

old cobalt
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The issue with melta is that any niche you try to put it in, it's going to either be total dogshit or just completely replace a weapon

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potentially multiple

midnight wyvern
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what weapon would it replace?

frank basin
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Probably plasma

noble nexus
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shotguns? I guess

old cobalt
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Depends on how its implemented

silver patrol
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shotguns don't need any replacing

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anything already replaces them

midnight wyvern
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with how shotguns work it just wouldn't, with how plasma works it wont lol

old cobalt
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like what niche is a melta gonna fill that another gun doesnt already fill?

midnight wyvern
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DBS maybe but also not really

silver patrol
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what would be the firerate and ammo of meltas

frank basin
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Melta has two mode, the fire blast and molten slug fission shot

old cobalt
noble nexus
midnight wyvern
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if a zealot pulls out a flamer like its heavier than a bolter, I imagine yanking out a melta is gonna have 1 dodge and the most horse shit mobility imaginable

frank basin
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How heavy melta carrying it?

midnight wyvern
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but by the god emperors light, that carapace man is going to die

silver patrol
old cobalt
frank basin
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Yeah can it do on bosses?

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Pretty sure melta on boss won’t do much

noble nexus
silver patrol
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a grenade launcher

frank basin
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Heavy stubber

midnight wyvern
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lore wise it probably should lol, in game I can see a reason to not

noble nexus
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we already have those tho

silver patrol
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we don't have those no

noble nexus
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oh on vet?

silver patrol
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well yeah i imagine we are talking about vet

frank basin
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Remember last time people ask add space marine as death guard in the game

old cobalt
# silver patrol lame, WHOgun more like and plasma does ok against armor, but it's not really spe...

That's the point I'm trying to get accross. We already have guns that are effective against Cara. We do not need guns that insta-delete it. Even if it's balanced with low ammo, at that point we're steering away from the general game design we've seen so far. We're venturing into territory that is bending lore at best to add a weapon to fill a niche the game actively does not need filled while carefully balancing around concessions, and also trying not to invalidate any of the weapons that already perform the supposed role of the weapon.

frank basin
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Is really bogger they asked death guard as boss fight

silver patrol
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we do need some bigger caliber and sniper like weapons on vet

grand perch
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It's like the heavy laspistol, but light!

noble nexus
grand perch
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Burst fire recon basically

frank basin
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I prefer machine gun

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Is my favorite

silver patrol
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how about

old cobalt
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I'd just like to remind you all

silver patrol
frank basin
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Longlas if you looking for

old cobalt
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Dueling Sword Meta is a fucking meme and thats a melee weapon

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Anti-Carapace is not something lightly given lmao

noble nexus
silver patrol
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duelling laspistol

frank basin
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Sound fun

noble nexus
old cobalt
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I would honestly love a dueling las pistol with a bit less damage than the revolver but a similar feel

topaz lance
silver patrol
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so true

old cobalt
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Same vibe with the infantry las and the semi-auto IA

toxic reef
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even more recoil KEKW_ogryn

silver patrol
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but i think there should be a duelling sword + duelling laspistol combo

frank basin
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Tbf I modded custom gun in different game coded melta weapon and inferno pistol

old cobalt
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Wouldn't a dueling sword/pistol combo just end up being the grenade gauntlet for vet

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primary fire, altfire is melee

silver patrol
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yeah sure

old cobalt
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or rather right click is

noble nexus
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why not tho?

frank basin
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No is more vt2

old cobalt
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i aint saying no just clarifying

mortal aspen
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no, it would be a melee weapon with a ranged special

old cobalt
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i mean there's precident for it

noble nexus
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ok

topaz lance
noble nexus
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what if it's a gimmick?

silver patrol
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how is that a bad thing

old cobalt
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for the same reason gunblades are historically total dogshit

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and completely unusable

silver patrol
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what do you mean gunblades

frank basin
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A gun with sword

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Combine

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Gunblade

old cobalt
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gunblade

topaz lance
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VT did it and it does not feel like a true dual wield, it feels like 98% meelee and then you use the gun to cheese some crit mechanics or something.

silver patrol
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this is just a sword and a gun, not them fused together

old cobalt
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my point is

silver patrol
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also what is a bayonet?

frank basin
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Look warframe gunblade weapon it has gun and function as melee

old cobalt
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when you try to make one thing good at everything it typically ends up just sucking

noble nexus
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true that

silver patrol
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false that

old cobalt
silver patrol
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i was talking about a gun and a sword in the first place

old cobalt
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ye

silver patrol
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i dunno why you are even talking about a gunsword

drowsy goblet
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helborne

old cobalt
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because if you have a gun and a blade in the same slot

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its gonna suck

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like it'd be fun

mortal aspen
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what

old cobalt
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but its either gonna suck or be broken

drowsy goblet
silver patrol
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what

mortal aspen
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nobody suggested that

frank basin
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It’s either vt2 rapier

drowsy goblet
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its called a bayonet

old cobalt
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am i on fucking drugs

frank basin
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Or a gun with sword

silver patrol
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i mean i did, the duelling sword + duelling pistol combo

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dual wielding

old cobalt
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yeah\

silver patrol
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for how often you see that in warhammer, it's really not present in darktide

frank basin
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I think blocking melee consider aiming the gun

topaz lance
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Weapon types I cannot see being fun in this game:
Dual wielding, Longlas, Heavy stubber/Hotshot las. Debate me.

noble nexus
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we already got the shield pistol so...

midnight wyvern
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did you not play vermintide? lol

mortal aspen
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they're saving dual wielding for the Smuggler\Gangster career

silver patrol
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i mean a heavy stubber on vet would just be an autogun with more ammo

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boring

noble nexus
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yeah

silver patrol
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i could see dual wielding melees tho

frank basin
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Wait unless aim at the gun while blocking melee use special button to shoot, yeah it sound confused

silver patrol
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that's also missing

topaz lance
mortal aspen
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vt2 dual wielding weapons are great

frank basin
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We not in brotherhood of steel tactic fallout

old cobalt
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I feel like given the autoguns already in the game

topaz lance
old cobalt
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the muzzle climb of a heavy stubber would make it unusable

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lmao

silver patrol
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i haven't played vt2 since release, but the dual axes were fantastic

frank basin
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Still want heavy stubber

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For vet

old cobalt
frank basin
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Any kind light machine gun other than brauto

silver patrol
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darktide wasn't built with a choo choo train of crushers in mind either

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yet here we are

noble nexus
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Man balancing between adding for the sake of it and actually implementing it properly is hard.

silver patrol
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i think adding for the sake of it is completely fine

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as long as it's fun

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i consider the falchion that already

old cobalt
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The issue is that a LOT of players are total gigasweats

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way more than is normal for a game

silver patrol
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where is the issue in that

noble nexus
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I doubt that there will be a golden balance where every weapon is perfectly viable but

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um

old cobalt
silver patrol
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and

frank basin
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Less worry havoc 40, more fun in regular mode

silver patrol
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do you think most people play havoc 40

old cobalt
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and you are not the only person that matters-- Fatshark does have to keep OTHER players in mind

silver patrol
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or even that most people touch havoc at all

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havoc is damn deserted lol

frank basin
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Since no matchmaking only squad made

silver patrol
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yes, among other things

frank basin
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Pretty sure some local would play it

topaz lance
frank basin
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But not globally

frank basin
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When thing bad you still keep that bad

noble nexus
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Maybe toying with the feeling(sound design/niche) of the weapon more than it being viable on every difficulty might be the way?

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I dunno

old cobalt
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Also im gonna say it

topaz lance
old cobalt
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Devs need to stop listening to 90% of players when it comes to balance

frank basin
old cobalt
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because most people have no fucking idea what theyre talking about

frank basin
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Vice versa

old cobalt
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and devs make changes based on literal paste eater's mod ideas

silver patrol
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true, they should go back and nerf the vigilant weapons

frank basin
silver patrol
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and buff the plasmagun

old cobalt
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When it comes to gameplay SYSTEMS? Like how currencies are earned, battlepasses, etc, sure, listen to the majority

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when it comes to balance?

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GOD no

steel veldt
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There's a fella on Reddit tryna convince people that Veteran is now OP and Zealot is weak because of his video showcasing VoC DS shredder frag Vet clearing like 40 Crushers and 50 ragers, what is the consensus on this?

noble nexus
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agreed

steel veldt
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Because I don't have enough playtime to actually tell if he is spitting facts or not

silver patrol
steel veldt
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Thank you

silver patrol
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ah it isn't

steel veldt
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Like isn't this just a DS thing

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and not even a Vet thing

midnight wyvern
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no no

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hes learning how uncanny works

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hes new

noble nexus
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I think actual gameplay instead of hypothetical scenario in the meat grinder would make a stronger argument.

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but that's just my opinion.

steel veldt
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I don't even wanna try Havoc :(

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I got put into a Havoc 30 by my 3k hour friend once and said "no, never again"

old cobalt
vivid silo
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Under normal circumstances it would be mindboggling that Uncanny is still in the game. But this is Fatshark we are talking about, so I am not surprised at all

old cobalt
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this community is already disgustingly toxic, i aint trying to push havoc

steel veldt
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This community seems fine ot me

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then again I come from CS, League, TF2 (the worst offender)

steel veldt
silver patrol
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it's completely fine in EU

frank basin
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Tf2 has diversity people

vivid silo
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If this community is toxic, then what do you think about 99% of the other communities?

old cobalt
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yeah you're basically hopping from shitpit to shitpit and then saying you don't smell anything

steel veldt
noble nexus
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I actually enjoy banging my head against hard walls. But It's so lonely.

silver patrol
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you mean a diverse pool of people

frank basin
steel veldt
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No I genuinely don't know what a diversity person is

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sorry

vivid silo
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This community is so chill compared to almost any other community I've seen (barring extreme examples like X-Com and small communities)

frank basin
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Diversity people

steel veldt
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Like, minorities?

turbid ibex
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Diver city

old cobalt
frank basin
old cobalt
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its a very different kind of toxic

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FFXIV is its own breed of toxic too.

serene bough
old cobalt
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Probably the most toxic game I've ever played. More toxic than league by a mile

vivid silo
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The amount of times I have experienced actual toxicity can be counted on 2 hands, after what, 1500 hours in game and a ton of hours outside the game

frank basin
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Tf2 literally toxic and diverse lmao

silver patrol
serene bough
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a big problem w/ darkltides melee weapons is the ability to use it is directly related to how well it deals with armor/cara

steel veldt
# frank basin Majority

TF2's community is diverse in a different way, like you have racists, fascists, furries, and trans people (who are usually furries)

old cobalt
silver patrol
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you could make it very low on ammo

old cobalt
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its something

steel veldt
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Oh mb

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sorry

noble nexus
serene bough
silver patrol
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for example yeah

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so it couild in theory destroy a rager, but is it worth it

steel veldt
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I always considered the bolt weapons to be anti-cara

old cobalt
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at that point just make it an ability

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lmao

steel veldt
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Then I tried WS Revolver

serene bough
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many ways to make a weapon to be cara specific

steel veldt
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Where it clears Crushers faster

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somehow

vivid silo
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It's just amazing how much peoples opinion of toxicity can differ. Guess it could be a region thing, I heard the Americas are quite a bit more toxic than WEU

old cobalt
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i would 100% get behind an ability that lets you just pull out a big ass gun

frank basin
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Look powersword two shot cara unit

serene bough
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melta guns would fit this concept nicely

noble nexus
old cobalt
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Americans literally joke about how disgustingly toxic eu gamers are

mortal aspen
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what the flip is EEU

silver patrol
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i am not sure EEU has its own server

frank basin
silver patrol
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east europe

steel veldt
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Eastern European

vivid silo
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I have heard maybe 30 people talk in 1500 hours in WEU

old cobalt
mortal aspen
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first time I see it abbreviated like that

old cobalt
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we love the v2 cannon

silver patrol
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the v2 cannon is great

old cobalt
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There are maybe 6 games where people do that

vivid silo
old cobalt
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but otherwise our vcs are totally silent

frank basin
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I never heard voices from teammate most of time

vivid silo
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Maybe it's because I play the highest difficulties that I don't experience it either, there were always rumours about the mentality of the lower difficulties

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Well, of "certain people" that are stuck there

old cobalt
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oh side thing but it made me happy so

frank basin
midnight wyvern
old cobalt
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I joined a helldivers lobby, had two australian teens in it, irl friends. One of them says some giga sexist shit to me off rip, his friend immediately calls him out on it, calls him a piece of shit, and boots him

vivid silo
old cobalt
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genuinely nice interaction

serene bough
old cobalt
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You have 3 skill brackets

midnight wyvern
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yeah I see alot of other games with havoc in them

serene bough
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ironically, sometimes H40 is easier than H30-39 bc the skill level is higher from my experience

steel veldt
old cobalt
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  • I know I suck so I don't care
  • I REALLY WANNA BE GOOD BUT IM NOT AND IM MAD ABOUT IT
  • actually good
vivid silo
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But if you are experiencing toxicity in Darktide that is even remotely close to what a game like League or Dota provides, then we are obviously playing completely different games

steel veldt
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On S E V E N.

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Once I saw it on F O U R.

old cobalt
steel veldt
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No

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I do know people who play it still

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but I don't

old cobalt
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in WoW there's an actual item level

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and people will require that you have a higher item level than the item level that drops in the content you're doing

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this has been a problem for 17 fucking years

steel veldt
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Lmao what

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thank God I never played WoW

old cobalt
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You're item level 580 trying to get 600 gear? Required item level 610

steel veldt
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despite the anthro dragons enticing me

old cobalt
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ITS NOT EVEN UNCOMMON

noble nexus
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came upon this while digging through old datamine posts. will the revolver get another variant? or would it just stay as a skin?

old cobalt
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sec

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this is the only way i can describe them

steel veldt
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I mean that is literally me

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I am an anthro dragon

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:D

old cobalt
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im going to turn on your apartments ac so you freeze to death

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you cold blooded bitch

steel veldt
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I am warm blooded, stupid

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I literally breathe fire

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how the fuck am I cold blooded

frank basin
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I’m a bird

old cobalt
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i identify as whatever pisses old people off the most lets go

noble nexus
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what's the point of an anthro dragon? that's just a lizardman with more pointy bits.

mortal aspen
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fetish

old cobalt
steel veldt
old cobalt
topaz lance
steel veldt
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that actually upset me

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:(

old cobalt
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I will suck Fatshark's dick for a Warhammer themed dp12

noble nexus
old cobalt
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zero hesitation

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GIVE IT TO ME

frank basin
steel veldt
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some things just irrationally upset me

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And it's always the most random shit

frank basin
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Some person would told “grow some balls”

old cobalt
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I'm not joking.

noble nexus
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I just have opinions on dragons that they are cooler if they're anything BUT humanoid.

steel veldt
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That's fair

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I love dragons

old cobalt
steel veldt
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feral and anthro

old cobalt
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turns out i've had BPD since i was 12

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maybe earlier

steel veldt
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I got laughed at

steel veldt
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and then diagnosed with OCD

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among other things

frank basin
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OCD and adhd

old cobalt
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that sound like your shrink is fucking stupid

steel veldt
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No, severe depression

frank basin
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They can go Wel

old cobalt
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OCD is the psychiatric cop-out diagnosis

steel veldt
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So yeah

steel veldt
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I stopped talking to her immediately

old cobalt
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yeah, i would check again

steel veldt
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she was just a substitute

steel veldt
old cobalt
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I've got... checks notes

frank basin
old cobalt
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Type 2 Bipolar Disorder, ADHD, Autism and Unspecified Major Depressive Disorder

steel veldt
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I don't really have physical compulsions that often, more mental compulsions, and really really really horrible intrusive thoughts

old cobalt
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I had to get put in the funny farm for the last one and they literally didnt even let me keep the fuckin grippy socks

frank basin
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Adhd autism, major depression

old cobalt
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im so mad

steel veldt
frank basin
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Well, Im a person isn’t same like that

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When come politically opinion

noble nexus
old cobalt
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yee

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my adhd is one of the worst cases ive ever seen tho

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Like unironically the parts of my brain that handle my basic needs don't work

noble nexus
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I got a tad bit better after taking meds tho

steel veldt
frank basin
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Work at job guarantee you can’t focus one task

steel veldt
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I live in Croatia

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Like

frank basin
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And you get fired

steel veldt
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those psych wards must be horrible

old cobalt
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I've "forgotten" to eat for 3 days straight and had a stroke because i forgot to drink water

frank basin
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Croatian furry

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Lol

steel veldt
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Yeah

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I knew some more

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But yes

frank basin
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:3 so softie

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boop

old cobalt
noble nexus
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In my case I rather just don't care even I don't forget.

steel veldt
old cobalt
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yeah no you gotta be careful what you tell them

steel veldt
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I once got driven in an ambulance for acting a bit tired and jaded

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that's all I did btw

frank basin
old cobalt
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I told mine I was having suicidal urges and that i'd text them when i woke up

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I woke up at 3pm to 6 cops outside my door

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got arrested in front of ALL of the neighbors

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well

steel veldt
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they thought I was gonna kill myself because I was tired and slightly unresponsive

old cobalt
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detained

steel veldt
old cobalt
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well in america there are

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laws i was not aware of

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If you tell your shrink you're considering suicide they BY LAW have to hear back to have to send cops

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like thats not an option

mortal aspen
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so you're telling me

frank basin
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They read bible it is sinful to commit suicide and that shaped the society

steel veldt
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is it insane to say a part of me would actually consider suicide more just to spite them for doing that?

mortal aspen
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the government agency worrying about you offing yourself so much they sent cops to take you away and help you is... bad?

steel veldt
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Like I'd rather die pissing them off and proving them wrong

mortal aspen
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like of course if you tell them you're suicidal they'll assume you're suicidal. they don't want you to die

steel veldt
frank basin
noble nexus
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I stopped thinking of kms when I decided that I really don't matter that much not for better nor for worse. It kinda helped me.

old cobalt
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Eh?

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They're not... Bad. They're just... Boring.

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Really.

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Really.

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Boring.

frank basin
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They keep you alive

steel veldt
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Yeah that is torture to me

frank basin
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Rather let you die

old cobalt
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Like drive you insane boring

steel veldt
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I'd rather be dead than living such a boring existence

frank basin
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I been in psych ward once

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Twice already

old cobalt
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You get crayons, paper, and movies. That is IT

frank basin
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One from recommendation

old cobalt
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0 contact with the outside

noble nexus
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yikes

frank basin
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And one from college threat

mortal aspen
noble nexus
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games I guess

old cobalt
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on the upside while i was in the psych ward I got to watch Devil Wears Prada

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GOATED movie btw

mortal aspen
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play DnD with the voices in your head

frank basin
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I get nice meal in psych ward is only thing I enjoy

steel veldt
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Yk now I genuinely feel like I won't talk to my psychiatrist at all about my problems, seeing how shit psych wards are

old cobalt
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Playing dnd in a psych ward can be

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hard

steel veldt
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Like I don't want there to even be a chance

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to be institutionalized

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considering how easy it is for it

frank basin
old cobalt
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considering a disproportionally large amount of people in said psych wards are schizophrenic

mortal aspen
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social media radicalizes young people into thinking they have mental disorders, because it's trendy

old cobalt
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the ward I was in didnt even have lined paper

old cobalt
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i wanted to die

frank basin
steel veldt
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The problem with me would be resisting the urge to crash out at the psych ward staff and yell at them how dogshit everything is inside

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because I'd just be kept in longer

mortal aspen
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oh you've seen it. all the reddit communities romanticising autism, depression, sadness
the music, the movies, the games

frank basin
old cobalt
noble nexus
mortal aspen
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it's seen as quirky and cool to be autistic or have ADHD or be depressed

frank basin
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D.I.D faking

mortal aspen
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it's absolutely a thing and makes life worse for people with actual disorders

old cobalt
mortal aspen
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what circles

frank basin
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I’m going use the college word “margilizing”

steel veldt
old cobalt
steel veldt
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I am way too impulsive to be let out

old cobalt
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who are imitating mental disorders because its trendcy

steel veldt
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(which is why I am doing everything to stay out of one)

mortal aspen
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no lmao

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it's not that there are people doing it maliciously

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they're just mislead by social media

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you know how you google your symptoms and according to the search you're gonna fucking die tomorrow

frank basin
steel veldt
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I doubr they would ever let me out

old cobalt
# mortal aspen no lmao

As someone who HAS been in them; slight correction. People don't do it because its trendy. Most of the time, these people are getting actually diagnosed. The people who are SELF diagnosing without outwardly stating it are not doing it because it's trendy. Those people do it because it allows them to have two things.

  1. A sense of connection. It gives a sense of shared suffering for individuals to bond over, which allows people who self-diagnose to feel less alone in dealing with whatever theyre dealing with.

  2. Attention. It can be very difficult when you are living live as a teenager or young adult and you have very, very few people who pay attention to you IRL.

mortal aspen
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i'm a bit under the weather and sad
bro, you're depressed and have adhd, you gotta get some pills, man

frank basin
steel veldt
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but I want to tell them that just to show them how dogshit the system is

frank basin
steel veldt
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because humanity is awful

noble nexus
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They aren't really pretending most of the time just making stupid decisions.

frank basin
steel veldt
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I feel like I already did

frank basin
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Kinda…. Odd to hate human view and want be animally

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That’s become something

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Otherkin or therian

noble nexus
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nah humans just humans don't get overdramatic.

old cobalt
# mortal aspen That makes sense.

Yeah. Mental disorders are not a joke, and no one thinks they're trendy. The thing with mental disorders is that because of the internet, we're seeing a

MASSIVE

spike in people who are "mentally ill" because its the first time people who are mentally ill can talk with other individuals who are also mentally ill

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same shit happening with the gays

steel veldt
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I know I am human

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I accept that I am human

old cobalt
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They're realizing how many people share their disabilities and are going "holy shit these are actually really common"

mortal aspen
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I will disagree about "noone thinks they're trendy"
just go on reddit lmao

frank basin
mortal aspen
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these people are absolutely glorifying autism and other disorders

old cobalt
frank basin
old cobalt
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there is no totally okay person who thinks being mentally ill is trendy

frank basin
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Some action looks cringy

noble nexus
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because it's a backlash against the constant demonization. It's not good but it's a rational behavior.

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What came first shaped the other.

old cobalt
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So when you have things like ADHD/Autism, things people are constantly telling you don't fucking exist despite the potentially massive impact on your life?

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Yeah. People are gonna be loud and proud.

frank basin
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Tell you what autism in vietnam has no prespective

old cobalt
#

They exist. They're not demons.

frank basin
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Meaning is non exist in their country

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Becuase nobody know what autism is

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I could get mandatory service if I live in vietnam

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Military for 2 year

old cobalt
#

Whats absolutely wild is

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people think adhd doesnt exist

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even though the first diagnosis of adhd was over 200 years ago

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like fuckin' what?

frank basin
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Oh those western idea mental condition not really much in their book in vietnam

noble nexus
#

they are in east asia tho.

frank basin
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Depression in assume is really they know what it is so I assume they might have that psych ward

old cobalt
#

do I have that right?

frank basin
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It means be normal

noble nexus
#

also what do you mean "western idea" people all around the world do medical research now.

frank basin
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Or people will weird out at you

old cobalt
#

yeahhhh that sound about right

frank basin
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Like majority is influence by west

noble nexus
frank basin
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East want be west

old cobalt
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it doesnt exist

mortal aspen
old cobalt
#

to be normal is abnormal

old cobalt
frank basin
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Since you live among society

noble nexus
mortal aspen
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I get it, but it comes off as that and eventually people become actually proud

frank basin
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I’m not proud what I have mental condition due to my shitty engrish

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Then thought of danger

noble nexus
#

they are proud because others say you shouldn't be.

old cobalt
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TBF after working with the public my entire adult life and doing actual research on how to be better at it

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100%

steel veldt
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Time for me to actually play the video game

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with my crush

old cobalt
#

You do not know shit about what literally anyone is going through at any given point in time

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I have just straight up stopped judging people

noble nexus
old cobalt
#

Mental disorders, life situation; I just don't anymore.

steel veldt
#

ty <3

frank basin
#

Man I personally not fond with college term user

mortal aspen
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you absolutely shouldn't be proud of your mental illness.
you shouldn't be ashamed of it, but you should acknowledge it as a problem that needs solving OR a problem that doesn't need solving but is nonetheless a problem

noble nexus
#

L take

frank basin
noble nexus
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It's not a PROBLEM it's a CONDITION.

frank basin
#

Western idea want keep that

mortal aspen
torn root
#

heavy topics in the morning

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holy hell thats a alot

frank basin
#

Hello Kuro

old cobalt
solemn niche
#

this vet is the frickin doom slayer

mortal aspen
#

Veteran is OP, game is solved, DT is dead

solemn niche
#

he's alone and he's actually winning

old cobalt
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Problem implies something is wrong. That it's broken. That it needs to be fixed.

mortal aspen
#

yes

old cobalt
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That's not how autism works.

frank basin
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I am consider myself a broken cog in a clock world

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Now I am rely on goverment income

mortal aspen
#

are you implying that mental disorders should not be treated?

frank basin
noble nexus
#

The system decides whether you are broken or not. But the problem is the system always fluctuates and can't fucking decide.

old cobalt
frank basin
#

It become part of their identity when they live with condition

mortal aspen
old cobalt
#

An important part of autism is learning how to MANAGE it and work around the ways you are different. They do not make you worse, or wrong, or broken. You operate DIFFERENTLY in a world that expects you to operate the same way as them.

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That means that you need to learn how to operate in a way that does not come naturally to you

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THAT is how you manage autism

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it doesnt mean you're "Broken"

frank basin
#

Yeah heck I made people block me on discord when my social cue and rule broked

mortal aspen
#

yes. if it's not something that can be (easily) treated - you learn how to live with it

noble nexus
#

People with disorders are not acting normal because others aren't letting them. why is this so hard for some of you people?

mortal aspen
#

and it's ok. we have come far enough as a human society to welcome all kinds of people

frank basin
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People will weird out if they found out your behavior manner isn’t like them.

old cobalt
#

Don't get me wrong, there are definitely disorders that need to be treated like

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I am on anti-psychotics

frank basin
old cobalt
#

I ended up taking them after a particularly bad bipolar outburst where I threw my mom into a wall

old cobalt
#

thats shit that needs to be handled

frank basin
#

Society not really welcome someone who’s different. Usually like the people work daily life doesn’t want autism work with them

old cobalt
#

but autism specifically is very, very different

frank basin
#

Since our brain like baby thinking

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Can’t perform task correctly

noble nexus
frank basin
#

But tedious task is easier for them

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Complex task like taking order fast food, make food from order

mortal aspen
#

well, we're a lot more inclusive than before and there is actually a place for all kinds of people, no matter the disability

old cobalt
#

but I was also kicked out of my house after getting diagnosed with bpd

noble nexus
#

Society is not adamant it changes.

old cobalt
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because i had bpd

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NOT BECAUSE I THREW MY MOM

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BPD WAS THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE BACK

frank basin
old cobalt
#

I was homeless for like 2 years it sucked lmao

noble nexus
#

damn

limpid basalt
old cobalt
#

she gave me 3 days to pack my shit and said "Get the fuck out"

frank basin
#

Yeah western idea

old cobalt
frank basin
#

They learn something with bpd believe is dangerous as murderous mood swinger

mortal aspen
#

swingers, man

frank basin
#

East like doesn’t know but keep you here

old cobalt
#

when I was a kid some girl called me stupid so I beat her with a pvc pipe until I was pulled off of her

noble nexus
#

wut

old cobalt
#

I was super fucking violent because i had totally unmanaged bpd

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so I had these really violent psychotic episodes of rage with 0 idea of how to control them

#

i learned as I got older ofc but as a kid I was

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VIOLENT

frank basin
#

I was being lapdog

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Tell student to behave

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But I sent him to clinic instead

noble nexus
#

good

frank basin
#

Yes I was once violent with my mom when arguement

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Since 3 year ago

#

Autism violent is a thing

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Not a baby thought

#

It can be dangerous when they grew up

old cobalt
#

yeah ive seen autistic people get violent

frank basin
#

I’m pretty much numb myself when come hurting someone irl

noble nexus
#

And that's the reason to see it rationally.

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not fear it.

frank basin
#

I got my ass beat by parent when I was kid

noble nexus
#

fear always make things worse.

old cobalt
#

i think the most violent I even got was this kid took my pencil so I curb stomped his face into the cement and didnt stop until he stopped moving

frank basin
#

Eastern thing

old cobalt
#

thankfully i was like

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40lb at the time

frank basin
#

Did you killed him?

noble nexus
#

east isn't a monolith tho

old cobalt
#

and i am very small in general

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so like he didnt actually get all that hurt

frank basin
noble nexus
#

that's still very big

frank basin
#

East asia has no regard person mental disorder

noble nexus
#

hell I'm from east asia

frank basin
#

But they still see you as dangerous person if you got so violence

#

Regardless your mental condition

old cobalt
#

i will take pretty much any country that isnt russia or china at this point lmao

#

get me the fuck out of the US

frank basin
old cobalt
#

I left my state when it became legal for paramedics to let people die for being gay 🙃

frank basin
#

You got westerner acknowledge your bpd

arctic lodge
#

Full of nazis now

frank basin
#

To those English speakers of course

old cobalt
#

yeah no its full of nazis now

frank basin
#

Non English speaker got washed thinking is American dream

old cobalt
#

unironically this planet would be better off if it just fucking glassed the US

frank basin
#

Bro where can I get money if no one want me

old cobalt
#

it would solve SO many problems

arctic lodge
#

Get russia too

#

World peace

old cobalt
#

Honestly, just get rid of the 3 major super powers and we're set

frank basin
#

Death wishing country

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Cool

#

Look those Asian American brought Tesla a lot

noble nexus
frank basin
#

Canada

old cobalt
#

Honestly its mostly just America/Russia

frank basin
#

Why not try live mexico

old cobalt
#

mexico is a wonderful country

frank basin
#

Oh wow

old cobalt
#

It has issues with cartels, yes, but depending on where you live?

frank basin
#

Now I see people forgot one thing in Mexico

old cobalt
#

Its great

frank basin
#

I means cartels gang expanding everywhere

#

In Mexico

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Small gang

#

Mega gang

noble nexus
frank basin
#

Medical is cheap yes that count

frank basin
noble nexus
frank basin
#

Wdym and

old cobalt
#

TBH

frank basin
#

Is how they formed

arctic lodge
#

They get all their guns from the US

old cobalt
#

I think I've never found a culture i fuck with harder than mexican culture

#

i grew up with mexicans and god damn I loved it

frank basin
#

I’m the border of texico

noble nexus
old cobalt
#

well

#

technically uhm

#

not the us but uhh

#

in part the us?

frank basin
#

Mexico once has large land then war with US got claimed

old cobalt
#

Mostly these fuckers.

#

They uhhh... 80% of it was them.

#

Yes. The banana people.

frank basin
#

Oh talking about corporations

old cobalt
#

yeah

noble nexus
#

Well how can we not?

arctic lodge
#

Good ol capitalism

old cobalt
#

Chiquita literally funded a rebellion in mexico because they wanted more banana farms

frank basin
#

Man I do have hateful view to corporate

old cobalt
#

the us helped

noble nexus
old cobalt
#

oh yeah

frank basin
old cobalt
#

hershy's chocolate?

#

they have death squads

#

for killing slaves

frank basin
#

Nestle

old cobalt
#

thats not like a rumor or anything thats just

#

documented

#

nestle killed babies

noble nexus
old cobalt
#

like

frank basin
#

Pinkerton

old cobalt
#

a few thousand

drowsy goblet
old cobalt
#

yeah no nestle literally held hundreds of thousands of babies at metaphorical gunpoint

#

to force african mothers to buy their product

arctic lodge
frank basin
#

Water privatization

old cobalt
#

oh yeah, that was a huge issue in my home state

#

they tried buying up a lot of local lakes and stuff and our govt had to tell them to piss off

noble nexus
#

The world's fucked up man.

frank basin
#

Not really

old cobalt
#

nestle is probably the most evil corporation on earth atm

frank basin
#

Blackrock

old cobalt
#

they're no east india trading company but

#

theyre DAMN close

#

Ehhh. Blackrock is white collar evil.

frank basin
#

Housing monopoly

old cobalt
#

still evil

#

yeah

#

just not "Killing tens of thousands of babies" and "Deathsquads for our slaves" evil

frank basin
#

Thing is, corporation only seek shareholder and profit

old cobalt
#

i just stopped eating chocolate tbh

#

too many people die for that shit

frank basin
#

Nah eastern hate that

old cobalt
#

Ehhh. Let's not get into that.

frank basin
#

Western youngling love it

old cobalt
#

That's a real good way to get mods involved

#

and get people heated

noble nexus
#

you're right.

#

nobody saw that

old cobalt
#

Discussing politics/religion is generally a real fuckin' bad idea lmao

frank basin
#

Sociopolitical

old cobalt
#

corpo hate?

#

if I get warned for talking shit about corporations im uninstalling this game lmao

noble nexus
#

lol

frank basin
#

Just go modding server talk to it

old cobalt
#

I actually have a t-shirt uhh

frank basin
#

Is chill

#

But the official is very controlling

old cobalt
#

lemme see if I can find it online...

sinful palm
#

but the emperor needs you to hold the line . he does not care for your political opinions

old cobalt
#

its a t-shirt not a hoodie but

noble nexus
#

yes he does

old cobalt
#

I do own this

#

lmao

noble nexus
#

He cared multiple times wdym

#

not the real life ones but still

old cobalt
sinful palm
#

it was just a joke hehe KEKW_ogryn

old cobalt
#

bro said "oh you worship me?"

#

"Glass it."

mortal aspen
#

I forgot to have breakfast and now it's 3 PM

#

am I autistic?

frank basin
#

I pretty much make statements about “oh is just western non sense thing”

frank basin
old cobalt
#

probably nnot a symptom but

frank basin
#

If you hit your head with shovel hard enough

old cobalt
#

if thats something that happens often, you might want to consult a psychiatrist.

frank basin
#

You be austimo

noble nexus
frank basin
#

Or the non-sense

old cobalt
#

OH, JOCAT CAME BACK TO YOUTUBE?

#

When???

frank basin
#

Something like; emotional control

#

I heard word like “marginalize”

honest quiver
old cobalt
frank basin
noble nexus
#

Like I said surely the WEST have influence over academic fields. But nowadays they can't just push conclusions to others like they used to.

tawdry osprey
old cobalt
#

oh god

frank basin
#

This is Victor

old cobalt
#

i forgot i had this gif

#

my friend made this

#

its the entire shrek movie

#

all of it

noble nexus
#

wtf

old cobalt
#

compressed into a gif small enough for discord

honest quiver
frank basin
#

Why I don’t use sources? I don’t trust when source can be “I made the fuck up with bias”

old cobalt
#

im going through my gifs and i have one i really

#

really wanna send

#

but idk if itll get me banned

noble nexus
tawdry osprey
old cobalt
#

mhhh

#

if my name goes white

#

remember me

frank basin
old cobalt
#

🫡

tawdry osprey
old cobalt
#

its just a goat

frank basin
#

So I don’t get source avoid they willing gas lighting me

old cobalt
#

what else i got in here...

tawdry osprey
#

what is bro yapping about

old cobalt
#

i got this one for when im tweaking the fuck out

tawdry osprey
#

@honest quiver

frank basin
#

Rn I don’t have opponent to argue some stupid shit

#

I’m bad arguing

#

It make me ended up racist, bigot, nazis, ableist

#

They labeling me

tawdry osprey
#

Drugs are 100% involved @honest quiver at least I hope

old cobalt
noble nexus
old cobalt
#

They're... Trying.

frank basin
old cobalt
#

basically what they're saying is they find it very difficult to differentiate legitimate sources with biased, or poorly researched ones.

#

and that makes it very hard to trust any source

#

i got that right?

tawdry osprey
frank basin
#

Everytime I try explain something with my broken autismo brain I would get labeling

old cobalt
frank basin
frank basin
old cobalt
#

thought so

old cobalt
#

some countries just don't teach that as a priority in or out of school

honest quiver
old cobalt
#

In my 7th grade class we had like a whole month dedicated to learning how to research effectively

noble nexus
frank basin
#

Yeah everytime you research they gonna say “Source?”

#

Source the goddamn emperor throne

old cobalt
tawdry osprey
old cobalt
#

👀

tawdry osprey
#

That's just a personality issue

honest quiver
#

permission to cry sir salute

old cobalt
frank basin
#

Yes I generalize western American online internet people in argument debates

old cobalt
#

not in an argumentative sense

frank basin
#

Every debate thing is pulling sources

#

Is much more logical and edvidence proofing they demand

#

Which is I don’t like at all

honest quiver
#

lol

tawdry osprey
noble nexus
#

wut

frank basin
#

Playing game “where the source”

old cobalt
#

do you guys think i should sit on my porch drinking a black coffee and smoking a cigarette like some depressed подросток?

frank basin
#

Really get me nerve

honest quiver
#

earth flat prove me wrong

old cobalt
tawdry osprey
old cobalt
#

or id take my pistol out there

tawdry osprey
#

Why'd you buy a pistol in the first place

honest quiver
#

i mention my gun in a gameslantern build i wrote

frank basin
old cobalt
#

now i dont

tawdry osprey
#

I see I see

honest quiver
old cobalt
#

i was homeless for a while so

#

having a gun to protect myself immediately made me like

#

a level 80 homeless person

frank basin
#

Lol

old cobalt
#

i even had the preorder 1998 toyota corolla mount

#

that doubled as a player home

noble nexus
old cobalt
#

tbh i only ever drew my gun once

#

and it was when i almost shot a cop

honest quiver
old cobalt
#

or TRIED to shoot a cop

old cobalt
#

i would not have lived long enough to pull that trigger lmao

honest quiver
tawdry osprey
#

why are you both alive

old cobalt
#

define both

honest quiver
frank basin
#

Well last thing before I go, I could get block by discortard if i make any bias information or judging something.

#

Because they took college class I assume

tawdry osprey
#

oh my god no one cares, shut up and go

old cobalt
#

i want kids

tawdry osprey
#

and you are typing to me

#

so i assume that's proof of life

old cobalt
#

wait the cop or

#

context

#

mallow and i?

honest quiver
#

you and the cop.....

mortal aspen
#

look, it's like his belly is growing

honest quiver
#

omg.......

mortal aspen
#

he's gonna be a daddy

tawdry osprey
#

you said the cop isn't dead

old cobalt
#

im gonna be a mom

#

OH

#

YEAH

#

SHORT STORY TIME

#

So when I was ballin' in my car, it was like 3am in a walmart parking lot

#

I had just slammed like two tallboys and was conked the fuck OUT

#

I wake up to someone slamming on the window of my car door shouting "GET OUT OF THE CAR"

#

my first thought is "Oh fuck im getting carjacked" so I go for my gun and I gear "Is that a gun??"

#

"What kind of carjacker asks if that's a g-- OH FUCK THATS A COP"

tawdry osprey
#

yeah as I thought, the cop deserved to die

old cobalt
#

Immediately dropped it like

#

30 seconds later we were both laughing about it

#

turned out there was an alarm for a store in the strip mall and I was the only car in the parking lot

#

but ya that was a wild encounter

tawdry osprey
#

you american?

#

I thought you were eastern europe and gun wouldn't be legal

old cobalt
#

FLORIDA BABY

honest quiver
#

explains everything

old cobalt
#

the feywild of the south

honest quiver
#

almost every ff14 player i ever met is from florida

old cobalt
#

oh i dont play ff14

#

i-- OH MY PFP

#

I NEVER CHANGED IT LMAO

honest quiver
old cobalt
#

yeah i dipped out of ff14 literally the most toxic community i've ever seen

#

worse than wow by a long shot

#

i gotta change my pfp

#

first image is my new pfp

tawdry osprey
#

@sick sluice omg its u

old cobalt
#

oh god damnit

#

i dont even watch this anime

tawdry osprey
sick sluice
#

😤

noble nexus
#

oh I'm late

#

nvm

honest quiver
#

at

old cobalt
#

that works

tawdry osprey
noble nexus
#

HAND

old cobalt
#

nevermind thats way better

tawdry osprey
old cobalt
#

hell ya

tawdry osprey
old cobalt
#

whats his name

old cobalt