Would anyone mind rating the "roll" on the Lasgun i have then?
#veteran-class
twilit heath
grand perch
If you're grey you can't post pics
twilit heath
well that is a hinderance
heavy rover
For infantry las? Ideally mobility is 60 and the rest is 80
atomic void
twilit heath
For infantry las? Ideally mobility is 60 and the rest is 80
Helbore
tall torrent
Usable
twilit heath
Usable as in usable good or usable as in "meh its barely usable"
tall torrent
Usable good, barely off from perfect
heavy rover
and 64% on stability
I think you'll be fine
analog yacht
Oh I got thrown off by the hand cannon mention
distant mural
Exactly
Dont get me wrong both weapons are certainly good but saying ds or knife is good against hordes is just bullshit imo.
silver trellis
Whats the best Dump stat for Helbore?
turbid ibex
Stability
silver trellis
Thanks
twilit heath
whats the dumpstat for the dueling blade?
meager echo
Dont get me wrong both weapons are certainly good but saying ds or knife is good...
Push attack cleave profile is 6.5, with flesh tear its apply aoe 8 stack bleed. Its not the best but quite ok into horde.
willow prairie
that basically bromentum for bruiser
silver patrol
whats the dumpstat for the dueling blade?
it's mobility
if it's there, it's usually always mobility or defense
silver patrol
that's what the power sword does
split grove
which nodes?
silver patrol
btw are you considered blocking when you activate the power sword now
silver patrol
which nodes?
was he using stealth
silver patrol
yeah
split grove
wtf is this damage
silver patrol
there is not really any way to build a melee vet from what i've seen
turbid ibex
Vet damage is a bit silly now
turbid ibex
there is not really any way to build a melee vet from what i've seen
Bottom right has a ton of stuff that benefits melee
turbid ibex
Its standard because its really fucking strong
meager echo
Vet melee was strong even before buff, it just that if you want to take smoke and survivalist before its so many tax nodes.
golden fox
Hoo boy. I hadn't played in a while, but saw there was an update, and I was really happy to see a buff for the Vigilant Autoguns in the patch notes, because hey, the clicking on heads thing was what the Veteran class originally promised.
But after jumping into game to try it out, I very quickly ran into the stealth nerf that Fatshark slipped in at the same time - the introduction of a ranged enemy type with a carapace armoured weakspot.
turbid ibex
is vigilant really the headhunter rifle
They used to literally be called headhunters in the beginning
silver patrol
right, i think i remember that
i think i also remember them always sucking
even at release
tame lodge
Hoo boy. I hadn't played in a while, but saw there was an update, and I was *rea...
Just shoot the body
Even with the nerfs
Vigilant CRIT should still hit hard against flak bodies
slow spade
you should have plenty of ammo outside of havoc
tame lodge
So yeah I don't know what stealth nerf you're talking about
I'm very used to 2 shotting maulers body
An enemy with even less HP?
Should be easy work
silver patrol
they have no cleave right?
tall torrent
Hoo boy. I hadn't played in a while, but saw there was an update, and I was *rea...
Better to shoot those guys in body most of the time
golden fox
Except then that doesn't proc any of the stuff you need a headshot to proc.
silver patrol
no that's right
tame lodge
Except then that doesn't proc any of the stuff you need a headshot to proc.
Don't need to
tame lodge
they have no cleave right?
1.5
tall torrent
Except then that doesn't proc any of the stuff you need a headshot to proc.
Yea it is what it is
tall torrent
In no world is duelling sword chad
silver patrol
you jelly of its perfect form
tame lodge
Not perfect either
Can't even clear hordes at a reasonable time
On my horde game
golden fox
Don't need to
Kinda do when an entire squad of them turns up and you want to be keeping Ghost up to not have them melting your face off.
silver patrol
ghost?
tame lodge
You can just dodge
mortal aspen
you jelly of its perfect form
twink sword
silver patrol
man, never heard of it
tame lodge
Weakspot hits automatically dodges ranged
mortal aspen
femboy blade
ancient path
femboy blade
the average dueling sword user
which may as well be true because tanner is the dueling sword spokesperson
tame lodge
Plasma gunner 1900 HP
Mauler 3700 HP
Yeah
Vigi 7 their bodies
Easy peasy
Also damn
That's a huge mauler buff
silver patrol
what's the best mark
ancient path
also love that he keeps getting recommended to me on yt even tho i asked them not to
golden fox
must be a blessing for inferior guns
Oh, it's extremely funny when the forty gunner squad turns up.
tame lodge
must be a blessing for inferior guns
iLas? Hmm maybe
Vigis? Not really
Laspistol? Yeah you better be careful what you call inferior
You're going to summon the horde
Unless you're talking about mk10
There's like
1 mk10 player
turbid ibex
iLas? Hmm maybe
Vigis? Not really
Laspistol? Yeah you better be careful what yo...
Ilas
turbid ibex
tall torrent
I don't like how it has no zoom
I think they made all vig auto have the same zoom
orchid hemlock
@tall torrent I wanted to ask
Any secretly OP weapons this patch? 🤔
tall torrent
<@366562874039992331> I wanted to ask
Any secretly OP weapons this patch? 🤔
What’s secret
orchid hemlock
Idk
tame lodge
I think they made all vig auto have the same zoom
I'll probably check any mention of that in 10 minutes
tame lodge
No cap removal afaik
tall torrent
I'll probably check any mention of that in 10 minutes
No mention
They also didn’t mention cleave change to vig7
tame lodge
Still shit
tall torrent
Tac axe IG but it was always OP
Still a budget self-defense melee
tame lodge
No mention
They also didn’t mention cleave change to vig7
More cleave?
Less?
tall torrent
More cleave?
Less?
More
tame lodge
tall torrent
Unfortunately IAG5 mogs everything on psyker
fallen needle
Any words of wisdom for a new player?
muted valley
Any words of wisdom for a new player?
Keep your heads down and don't mention the one who saved the Ogryn...
tame lodge
Unfortunately IAG5 mogs everything on psyker
Don't worry about it
narrow widget
Any words of wisdom for a new player?
dont spam your gun into the horde no matter how appealling their heads may seem......
distant plaza
Any words of wisdom for a new player?
kill them all
no one ever said 'i need less dakka dakka dakka'
uhh, don't forget to push/shove
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nah what am i saying run bolter and magdump the crowd
tall torrent
tame lodge
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Why gun when shank
wheres knife gremlin
slow spade
Any words of wisdom for a new player?
you're going to HATE the new plasma gunner c:
eternal venture
Honestly the coolest thing about the Psyker rework is Just a Dream
It's like Sienna Unchained but better
And you can make it even better with damage reduction nodes
It's like you're playing Path of Exile with damage conversion mods
tame lodge
Well
I never took damage as a psyker
So I see it as nothing
(it's pretty fucking good)
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darktide when the tide is actually dark
fallen needle
you're going to HATE the new plasma gunner c:
Wife kinda skull dragged me through the plasma guy event on auric
eternal venture
Psyker can tank hits better than Vet now
no joke
I can eat a plasma shot in havoc and it'll only do like 30% of my hp as psyker
tall torrent
Wife kinda skull dragged me through the plasma guy event on auric
Being introduced to DT by wife is crazy
eternal venture
still hurts like hell of course
fallen needle
But i did unlock the hellbore lasgun
eternal venture
But it saved me last run
slow spade
Wife kinda skull dragged me through the plasma guy event on auric
bruh
narrow widget
But i did unlock the hellbore lasgun
wait how did you unlock auric before unlocking helbore 😭
fallen needle
Being introduced to DT by wife is crazy
She likes the funny ogryn
slow spade
wait how did you unlock auric before unlocking helbore 😭
you can queue for higher missions if your team can queue for them
tame lodge
Yeah ogryn good
fallen needle
wait how did you unlock auric before unlocking helbore 😭
I didnt, she was squad leader
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you can queue for higher missions if your team can queue for them
thats a thing?????
slow spade
you can technically have a lvl 1 in Maelstrom
which would be an "experience" to say the least
fallen needle
which would be an "experience" to say the least
The experience was hell
tame lodge
The greatest piece of advice that I genuinely can give you
Is that your dodges refresh if you stop dodging for 0.85 seconds
Boom, there
You learned dodge management
You are now havoc 40 ready
You're welcome 
fallen needle
Does it pause the refresh if youre sprinting?
slow spade
it's pretty sad how few players know how to dodge
I had an Arbites fully die in my last game lmao
narrow widget
Does it pause the refresh if youre sprinting?
as long as you dont hit dodge
tall torrent
Any words of wisdom for a new player?
Blue bar (toughness)
U want to keep that at max as much as possible which involves killing most things fast most of the time
Dodge to avoid attacks
Dodge/slide to avoid ranged attacks
Push often vs horde to make space
Aim for head with melee and ranged attacks if you can (except for 2 enemies)
Overhead/stab attacks are better on single targets, sweeping attacks are better on hordes
narrow widget
always kidnap the nearest pox walker to an airlock
turbid ibex
Any words of wisdom for a new player?
Dodges do not give iframes vs melee
woeful junco
Wife kinda skull dragged me through the plasma guy event on auric
Your wife dragged your underlevelled ass into an auric outgunned?
She sounds based, is she single
fallen needle
Dodges do not give iframes vs melee
Does it for range?
narrow widget
Does it for range?
no but sliding does
fallen needle
Your wife dragged your underlevelled ass into an auric outgunned?
Yes. I had shovel, shovel didnt do much
tame lodge
That's uh
An accurate description of current shovel on the meta
But don't worry about meta
That's a thing for like
A thousand hours in
slow spade
more like lvl 15 when you get a power sword
tall torrent
That’s a thing like
10hrs in
narrow widget
An accurate description of current shovel on the meta
i love the ppl in here like SHOVEL ACTUALLY SECRET META OP WEAPON!!?!?!?!?!?!!
woeful junco
Shovel is fine as long as you bring a heavy hitter gun or, like, kraks
slow spade
which ironically will suck ass until you get the mastery up
tame lodge
Then at 2 thousands hours you kinda just say fuck meta
tall torrent
I hope u love the power sword as much as ur wife
autumn ferry
shovel is FUN and that's all that matters
tame lodge
🛌
fallen needle
I hope u love the power sword as much as ur wife
What does power sword do?
narrow widget
What does power sword do?
activate power mode every 2-3 swings and it is good
if it drops the input ur done for
gg
tall torrent
What does power sword do?
slow spade
activate power mode every 2-3 swings and it is good
if it drops the input ur don...
1 swing c: because no mastery yet
I leveled it when it used to have 3 charged attacks per special
now it's 1 charged attack
I wonder how many people the power sword filtered because of that
pseudo fiber
looks at reddit
tall torrent
A lot
pseudo fiber
that many
tame lodge
What does power sword do?
Unironically the answer is everything but being agile
tall torrent
Basically
Everybody that says relic blade is better than power sword got filtered
Because u have to gaslight urself to believe that
faint beacon
It filtered redditors cause they dont like the 1 powered swing, I don't like it because it feels weird to me. We are not the same
autumn ferry
yeah my mouse side button cries whenever i bust out the psword
slow spade
ironic that the literal greatsword is like 3x worse than the 1-handed psword for single target
faint beacon
PS just fucking nukes everything
turbid ibex
Pord
tall torrent
ironic that the literal greatsword is like 3x worse than the 1-handed psword for...
Not 3x worse
woeful junco
1h psword just needs a rework but that weapon is radioactive
tall torrent
It’s like 13% worse rn
woeful junco
fs cant touch it without their office being firebombed and darktide reaching "overwhelmingly negative" on steam
tall torrent
On single target
slow spade
It’s like 13% worse rn
ah ok
tame lodge
fs cant touch it without their office being firebombed and darktide reaching "ov...
For the 3rd time
😭
slow spade
I haven't tried the new zealot changes :c
to be fair, everytime they touch psword. It's a fucking huge nerf
faint beacon
You will not nerf the PSword or else....... even though it should absolutely deserve it with how fucking insane it is right now lmao
meager echo
Ps power to effort ratio is not great compared to other top melee weapon. That's the main down side of it.
narrow widget
fs cant touch it without their office being firebombed and darktide reaching "ov...
just like plas gun fr fr
faint beacon
2 taps post change crushers
slow spade
it used to have Infinite cleave and 3 charged attacks with 7 if you got Power Cycler
tall torrent
I haven't tried the new zealot changes :c
tall torrent
2 taps post change crushers
It takes 3
pseudo fiber
What if we got there ANYWAY
narrow widget
Ps power to effort ratio is not great compared to other top melee weapon. That's...
fym its literally just WOOONG SCHWING SCHWING SCHWING WOOONG SCHWING SCHWING SCHWING
tall torrent
Barely off from 2
faint beacon
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jUqYvBf_SIr3mUjtoFYDSlDIHiBFmV6BPAZ...
Unfaltering propaganda
woeful junco
What if we got there ANYWAY
slow spade
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jUqYvBf_SIr3mUjtoFYDSlDIHiBFmV6BPAZ...
oh wow that's a lot better than when I last saw it
woeful junco
plasma gunner complaining, i take it?
pseudo fiber
plasma gunner complaining, i take it?
That and the crashes
fallen needle
So power sword when I unlock it
And is keeping the infantry autogun the move?
slow spade
plasma gunner complaining, i take it?
and probably the crashes
tall torrent
oh wow that's a lot better than when I last saw it
As it turns out getting +80% damage makes a decent difference
woeful junco
oh yeah.
slow spade
the crashes that happen like every 3 matches lol
pseudo fiber
it's literally 69% it'll go up in a few days
narrow widget
So power sword when I unlock it
And is keeping the infantry autogun the move?
iag suck ass bro switch off of it fr
autumn ferry
havent crashed once, works on my machine 
woeful junco
one day fatshark will learn to actually do QA polish on their builds
but not this day
faint beacon
Admittedly the complaining about the BS the Plasma Gunners can pull is deserved
tall torrent
Unfaltering propaganda
The QoL is immaculate
slow spade
As it turns out getting +80% damage makes a decent difference
oh shit lol and I thought the +50% weakspot on dodge node was insane
meager echo
fym its literally just WOOONG SCHWING SCHWING SCHWING WOOONG SCHWING SCHWING SCH...
Borovian spam light have same boss dps as ps6
fallen needle
iag suck ass bro switch off of it fr
Is the hellbore better?
tall torrent
oh shit lol and I thought the +50% weakspot on dodge node was insane
Two +10% melee damage nodes
Sustained assault +20% melee damage
Riposte +20% melee damage
IJ keystone +20% damage
pseudo fiber
Is the hellbore better?
It'd assume they're mainly joking IAG is good.
Helbore is also good but an acquired taste
slow spade
Is the hellbore better?
until you can get Shocktrooper node, Helbore is ass
tall torrent
Borovian spam light have same boss dps as ps6 <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Nah it doesn’t
It’s behind
slow spade
Two +10% melee damage nodes
Sustained assault +20% melee damage
Riposte +20% mel...
oh yeah that'll do it :p
faint beacon
Still its so fucking weird how PF needs Rending Strikes to juice out some really good damage
tall torrent
Even before vet buff it was behind
meager echo
Its like 2 or 3 seconds different in psykhanium on plague ogryn.
vapid thunder
what changes did vet get with new update
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what changes did vet get with new update
its peam fr
turbid ibex
what changes did vet get with new update
Many
pseudo fiber
what changes did vet get with new update
New talent tree nbd
slow spade
what changes did vet get with new update
Execution Stance is funny now
heavy rover
Is the hellbore better?
Helbore is peak
woeful junco
Borovian spam light have same boss dps as ps6 <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
borovian pickaxe? lol i never tried that before
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i hope they fix vermin tide 2 pickaxe.....
heavy rover
Bruv
tame lodge
It gets the same treatment
autumn ferry
i used to use borovian before they made the karsolas heavies better
tall torrent
Its like 2 or 3 seconds different in psykhanium on plague ogryn.
Pre-patch
Power sword ~18s
Branx ~19s
Borovian ~21s
Post patch
Power sword ~14s
Ogryn’s damage got nerfed so maybe 1s slower than before
pseudo fiber
remember that Kruouk stubber whatever it's called
faint beacon
not Vigil
tame lodge
Krourk Twin Linked stubbers
woeful junco
Pre-patch
Power sword ~18s
Branx ~19s
Borovian ~21s
Post patch
Power sword ~14s...
which attacks do you use for the branx numbers? heavy or lights?
tall torrent
Every exe stance build I slurp up ammo
tame lodge
Still can't hit a broadside of a planet, good gun 
tall torrent
which attacks do you use for the branx numbers? heavy or lights?
Light + special is highest sustained single target dps for Branx
With torment too
narrow widget
Every exe stance build I slurp up ammo
consume more ammo
do not be sorry
tall torrent
Thrust + crunch is better alpha damage for breakpoints
tall torrent
and lightspam in between?
Ya
woeful junco
thx
autumn ferry
you're the veteran you deserve all the ammo because you're john ranged weapon
tall torrent
Thrust + crunch is better alpha damage for breakpoints
But worse for sustain vs big health pool
woeful junco
john gun
meager echo
The only think i dont like about pick axe is the push is slower than small weapon.
narrow widget
you're the veteran you deserve all the ammo because you're john ranged weapon
yo wheres john darktide when you need him
autumn ferry
especially make sure to take big ammo packs when you only need a little bit of ammo
tall torrent
you're the veteran you deserve all the ammo because you're john ranged weapon
Played a game with @faint beacon last night where I was at like 4 bullets for my gun for a solid 3 minutes in the game
And I see scoreboard
Some random arb with ext shotgun took 6-1-1 ammo and did 1/3 my damage
faint beacon
tame lodge
Played a game with <@820414945543716944> last night where I was at like 4 bullet...
Only 3?
Rookie numbers
faint beacon
I was running Vigil + PF
woeful junco
oh that was me sry
grand perch
Some random arb with ext shotgun took 6-1-1 ammo and did 1/3 my damage
let me be the first to greet you in exec stance main territory
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Some random arb with ext shotgun took 6-1-1 ammo and did 1/3 my damage
oops tee hee
fallen needle
Wife is saying if I do like the lasguns I should swap to the recon when I unlock it
Fact or cap?
narrow widget
fact
pseudo fiber
fact
autumn ferry
Some random arb with ext shotgun took 6-1-1 ammo and did 1/3 my damage
didnt give him enough ammo smh
tall torrent
Wife is saying if I do like the lasguns I should swap to the recon when I unlock...
It’s a very easy gun to pick up and do decently well with
woeful junco
fact
grand perch
faucet
woeful junco
recon goes brrrrt
tall torrent
let me be the first to greet you in exec stance main territory
It’s alr
I find ammo to be a more limiting factor than CD kinda
faint beacon
Wife is saying if I do like the lasguns I should swap to the recon when I unlock...
Fact, either that or Helbore
depends on how you prefer your Lasers
fallen needle
Eh. I like the things I shoot to die after
That's my only preference
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yeah but fast rate of fire or slow rate of fire
faint beacon
Recon is hosing it down till it dies
Helbore is blow its brains out with one well placed shot
grand perch
It’s alr
I find ammo to be a more limiting factor than CD kinda
it is, people taking ammo when theyre so full as to waste the pickup is like my 1 berserk button
faint beacon
Watching the Arby take the ammo whilst at 70/80 ammo
I have minimum 2 mags remaining in my Vigilant
tall torrent
and lightspam in between?
narrow widget
grand perch
Found the vid
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/985983134275366943/13549...
you must be mistaken, thats a clip from DRG
big nitra vein
woeful junco
Found the vid
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/985983134275366943/13549...
thx
pseudo fiber
Sending it to fatshark as we speak. Expect a buff soon buddy
fallen needle
yeah but fast rate of fire or slow rate of fire
So far all the laguns ive seen are semiautomatic
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recon is full auto
turbid ibex
And helbore has a charged shot mechanic
fallen needle
recon is full auto
Is it retain damage like the other lasguns or does it take a dip to account for it being full auto?
tame lodge
Takes a dip per shot
vapid thunder
Execution Stance is funny now
what’s different
tame lodge
That's why you brrrr
tall torrent
Is it retain damage like the other lasguns or does it take a dip to account for ...
Lower damage per shot but faster fire rate
tall torrent
what’s different
turbid ibex
Majority of the damage with recon will come from the burn on crit blessing
fallen needle
So itll need crit traits
tall torrent
Nah
Majority of damage is the gun itself
Burn is usually at most 1/3 of its damage
Crit build is good however and u should go for them because shock trooper saves u a lot of ammo
fallen needle
Whats shock trooper?
tall torrent
Las-weapons’ critical ranged attacks don’t consume ammo
fallen needle
Oh nice
vapid thunder
what’s different from old exe
fallen needle
So power sword (when I unlock it) and recon lasgun (when I unlock it) then look for shock trooper in the mastery
vapid thunder
i haven’t played vet in a min
tame lodge
So power sword (when I unlock it) and recon lasgun (when I unlock it) then look ...
Shock Trooper is talent on the bottom left of vet's talent tree
Not a mastery thing
eternal cove
best thing they added this update
fallen needle
Shock Trooper is talent on the bottom left of vet's talent tree
Ah, im a while away then
midnight wyvern
a lot of people cannot fucking do the event
tall torrent
what’s different from old exe
10% of max toughness per second
Ogryn highlight now boosts duration to 8s
vapid thunder
10% toughness replenished per second
oh boring i wish they upped the damage
floral creek
Was Plasma gun Flak/Unarmored or Maniac/Unarmored?
vapid thunder
10% of max toughness per second
Ogryn highlight now boosts duration to 8s
ok that’s peak
midnight wyvern
oh boring i wish they upped the damage
it doesn't need more damage lol
tall torrent
Was Plasma gun Flak/Unarmored or Maniac/Unarmored?
Unarmored + flak rn
unreal nova
a lot of people cannot fucking do the event
Well, 14 bs that can kill someone in 3 shots even on lower diffs. What da thunk.
faint beacon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1421910418691063909/P...
they always die at first drop
lmao
vapid thunder
hate losing it bc of ogryns taking years to kill
floral creek
Unarmored + flak rn
Thank
fallen needle
a lot of people cannot fucking do the event
I did it (against my will)
midnight wyvern
they always die at first drop
yeah I fucking hate doing the event, im alr done on the kill things for it and people suck dog ass
so I just leave
fuck that
tall torrent
I’m doing the event to farm plasma gunner kill penance + lights out mission penance
Me after dragging gale through 4 lights out in a row
unreal nova
Me after dragging gale through 4 lights out in a row
You carrying him?
midnight wyvern
but doing it solo is akin to CBT
turbid ibex
So power sword (when I unlock it) and recon lasgun (when I unlock it) then look ...
Do not use power sword with no mastery
fallen needle
Gale carries?
midnight wyvern
understandable
unreal nova
I just slurp ammo, press F and delete everything
So, carrying.
pseudo fiber
midnight wyvern
I need to get used to the shenanigans my teammates pull so I can use exe/hellbore more
cuz damn fuck me dead that shit is stronk
midnight wyvern
plasma exe is really funny for the event yeah
narrow widget
I like boltgun / plasma for the event
BOLTER MENTIONED RAAAAAAHHHHH
midnight wyvern
shooting them through walls 
tall torrent
Plasma exe is even more ammo hungry than boltgun lol
eternal venture
Helbore slaps for anything that isn't a rotten armor crusher
midnight wyvern
Plasma exe is even more ammo hungry than boltgun lol
hollow ibex
Plasma exe is even more ammo hungry than boltgun lol
lol tried it last night, plasma is damn strong
midnight wyvern
but things die so its okay
tall torrent
Also @faint beacon I think armorbane stocks super high for helbore rn
midnight wyvern
plasma exe MMF is comical
tall torrent
Worth it for mk5 and 3a
hollow ibex
would rather use helbore or bolter
hollow ibex
Worth it for mk5 and 3a
for 5 just take weight of fire 
eternal venture
Meanwhile Helbore is just infinite ammo
midnight wyvern
hellbore should be void from rotten armours ranged DR
tall torrent
for 5 just take weight of fire <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
Armorbane 2 taps maulers
midnight wyvern
hollow ibex
Armorbane 2 taps maulers
why use 2 when you can use 6 shots
eternal venture
hellbore should be void from rotten armours ranged DR
Pretty sure it isn't, but I'd need to test
hollow ibex
(full auto helbore is very funny)
midnight wyvern
Pretty sure it isn't, but I'd need to test
it isn't
tall torrent
Pretty sure it isn't, but I'd need to test
He wants it to be
midnight wyvern
but it should be
eternal venture
It definitely takes more than two headshots on a H30+ rotten armor crusher
Oh lol
midnight wyvern
hellbore stonks
tall torrent
but it should be
Nah
eternal venture
Yeah I agree
fallen needle
(full auto helbore is very funny)
It can?
eternal venture
smokesssssssss
midnight wyvern
they see me with kraks and do the whole "can you use smokes" like my god
LET ME BE
hollow ibex
It can?
with mods, yeah
with helbore passive charge mod
- skitarius
you can make it full auto
eternal venture
but that sucks all of the fun out of it
fallen needle
Outside that, are there any mods yall recomend?
midnight wyvern
numeric UI
eternal venture
hellbore should be void from rotten armours ranged DR
just wait
tall torrent
Outside that, are there any mods yall recomend?
Creature spawner
fallen needle
numeric UI
Whats that do?
eternal venture
Massive rending
tall torrent
I don’t use basically anything else tbh
hollow ibex
Outside that, are there any mods yall recomend?
spidey sense, scoreboard, psych ward, danger zone, markers AIO
hollow ibex
but that sucks all of the fun out of it
nah it's very funny
eternal venture
Scoreboard if you care about that sort of thing
narrow widget
Outside that, are there any mods yall recomend?
whichever one lets you disable visual effects
midnight wyvern
"even more" as if the game tells you anything
fallen needle
Oh?
indigo wren
Are there any ranged weapons I should avoid using on the Vet?
eternal venture
True Level if you want to filter out players from your havoc lobbies
tall torrent
Are there any ranged weapons I should avoid using on the Vet?
Uhh
Boltpistol VI
Yea that’s about it
fallen needle
~~True Level if you want to filter out players from your havoc lobbies~~
Whats havoc?
unreal nova
@tall torrent Just curious, Flak Maniac isn't the go to now, right?
eternal venture
Highest difficulty mode with a silly ranked system
midnight wyvern
Are there any ranged weapons I should avoid using on the Vet?
braced auto guns
tall torrent
Whats havoc?
CBT
midnight wyvern
autumn ferry
scoreboard so you can flame someone when they do better than you
eternal venture
tbh I was mostly joking, only jerks filter other players out based on true level
eternal venture
Harder
midnight wyvern
~~True Level if you want to filter out players from your havoc lobbies~~
inspect on social is nice and inspect in party finder if you eventually get into havocs
tall torrent
So like auric or worse?
Your balls will be caressed by 500 ragers
midnight wyvern
can be good to see what builds people have if you want to try them out
eternal venture
Would be great without its silly derank system
hollow ibex
first by party finder, then 500 ragers, and then error 2014
indigo wren
is the Plasma Gun any good or the shotgun at least?
unreal nova
Your balls will be caressed by 500 ragers
You mean 1000 maulers and 500 crushers all farting.
tall torrent
is the Plasma Gun any good or the shotgun at least?
Plasma top tier
Shotgun depends on which
midnight wyvern
is the Plasma Gun any good or the shotgun at least?
plasma bad
indigo wren
Plasma top tier
Shotgun depends on which
the combat one
sudden leaf
midnight wyvern
dont let them gaslight you
indigo wren
Which variant of combat shotgun
I didn't even know there were variants tbh
unreal nova
@tall torrent Path, you saw what I asked?
midnight wyvern
I didn't even know there were variants tbh
game calls them marks
tall torrent
<@366562874039992331> Path, you saw what I asked?
No
What did u ask
fallen needle
You mean 1000 maulers and 500 crushers all farting.
Id take the thousand maulers over the 500 plasma dudes
unreal nova
No
What did u ask
Is Flak Maniac still the go to or nope.
tall torrent
Is Flak Maniac still the go to or nope.
On what weapon
indigo wren
game calls them marks
oh ok
midnight wyvern
midnight wyvern
unreal nova
It has not been since Sep 26, 2024
Oh, was like... You can't go wrong with them way.
fallen needle
Are the combat shotguns good or do they shoot glorified confetti past 5 meters?
indigo wren
I tried using the Plasma Gun and I honestly don't like how it operates, specifically the charge up.
midnight wyvern
Agri is a slug for its special fire, zarona is duckbill and Accatran is Fire I think? I have never touched anything other than agri
lol
floral creek
Blessings and perks for chainsword?
midnight wyvern
Are the combat shotguns good or do they shoot glorified confetti past 5 meters?
they're good
narrow widget
Are the combat shotguns good or do they shoot glorified confetti past 5 meters?
they're good now
tall torrent
Oh, was like... You can't go wrong with them way.
Not sure how that matters when everything can be easily optimized
tall torrent
Are the combat shotguns good or do they shoot glorified confetti past 5 meters?
They’re more like irl shotguns than video game shotguns
If u want a video game shotgun, double barrelled
unreal nova
Not sure how that matters when everything can be easily optimized
Yeah, but it's more. They are generally useful still, right? If you have no idea what to use.
tall torrent
Yeah, but it's more. They are generally useful still, right? If you have no idea...
Again I’m not sure how this matters when everything can be easily optimized
A lot of melee weapons go unyielding carapace now
Ranged weapons are either dps or breakpoint
If breakpoint it could take unarmored / maniac / unyielding / flak
tall torrent
It depends on the specific weapon
tall torrent
It's just my knoife, lul.
Unyielding carapace
humble ether
Does the combo Rending strikes + Onslaught + Shattering impact actually stacks? Can I actually achieve 90 Rending or Onslaught and Shattering Impact count towards the maximum stacks of 16?
tall torrent
Does the combo Rending strikes + Onslaught + Shattering impact actually stacks? ...
Shattering impact is of the same brittleness effect as onslaught
This specific brittleness effect stacks up to 16 times and don’t go above
So your total ADM boost would be 50% at best
humble ether
Shattering impact is of the same brittleness effect as onslaught
This specific ...
Ah, gotcha, thank you
Big bummer
hollow ibex
would be pretty dumb if both shrimpact and onslaught stacked
humble ether
A man can dream
fallen needle
Back. Hellbore with volley fire is pretty neat
midnight wyvern
would be pretty dumb if both shrimpact and onslaught stacked
hollow ibex
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/lcysNXsatrTvKk8hn?invite=c...
can def get it faster based on path's clip
i think path's clip had it as a 3 tap?
this is mine with mk1
haven't decided which one i like more yet
faint beacon
We're both using MkIIb
hollow ibex
but i do like the mk1 single target
faint beacon
However I bet Leakage might hit that Breakpoint
tame lodge
Plasma gunner can be 3 tapped by Vigi7 CRIT body shot at less than 12.5m
2 if you run FT
So yeah
Ain't shit
faint beacon
11 off of a 3 tap
tall torrent
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/lcysNXsatrTvKk8hn?invite=c...
To get 3-4 tap u need exploit weakness up
fallen needle
To get 3-4 tap u need exploit weakness up
Whats that?
tall torrent
Whats that?
Veteran talent
hollow ibex
this is why mk1 is better 🙂↕️
pseudo fiber
Whats that?
fallen needle
I see
tall torrent
this is why mk1 is better 🙂↕️
It’s alr
hollow ibex
i like living on the edge when fighting crusher blobs (0 stam)
tall torrent
I think falchions can use some minor buffs to the weapon itself and a revamp to its blessings
pseudo fiber
being a mk2b truther finally rewarded me
faint beacon
It’s a Rashad sidegrade
trim badger
Bounty hunter open wounds
faint beacon
Which is really good
But admittedly it is unusual that powered doesnt really do much without rending strikes
tall torrent
Which is really good
The unpowered attacks are still ass unfortunately
No cleave
No stagger
pseudo fiber
No ass no cock no balls
hollow ibex
i've been mostly using it as a sidearm on hybrid builds
when the juice runs out, switch to melee
tall torrent
It’s a 1 point cheaper but worse Rashad
steel surge
Quick question, is this YouTuber's build good? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3U32dUIeEw A vet in my team did well, looking to really get into vet class now that it's been updated
steel surge
I remember people saying that, it's why I run them past this channel. Thanks for the info
normal bay
fallen needle
most DT YTers are not good for buildcrafting lol
Im more of a "mess around and see what works"
steel surge
The guy was a blessing for my melee tank ogryn
floral creek
Why 69 Charge Rate 71% Thermal Resistance Plasma gun?
trim badger
support
Looks inside
Shout, smoke and focus target
floral creek
What about 70/70?
trim badger
Why 69 Charge Rate 71% Thermal Resistance Plasma gun?
Cuz 69 charge allows for 8 shots
stuck gorge
Why 69 Charge Rate 71% Thermal Resistance Plasma gun?
Gives one more shot at max without venting is why
trim badger
68 being the minimum
stuck gorge
that’s the only reason
midnight wyvern
Why 69 Charge Rate 71% Thermal Resistance Plasma gun?
shoots 8 times, fires as fast as optimisation allows
floral creek
Man, that's incredible RNG to get
stuck gorge
gl with it
tall torrent
What about 70/70?
Usable
midnight wyvern
obligatory @tired egret
floral creek
Best I got is 70/70
trim badger
Man, that's incredible RNG to get
That, alongside flamer 76 burn 64 dmg zdd
steel surge
Is there an updated guide or some good builds you guys recommend? Never really got the hang of veteran before the update.
tall torrent
Best I got is 70/70
Good enough
steel surge
am up to try any weapon
tall torrent
That, alongside flamer 76 burn 64 dmg zdd
Flamer is not worth optimizing for tbh
The difference between 60 and 64 damage is negligible
trim badger
Flamer is not worth optimizing for tbh
I know
tall torrent
The difference between 60 and 71 charge rate isn’t
trim badger
instinct still makes me wanna grind for
tall torrent
Same reason for psyker warp resistance not worth giga dumping
It’s just not relevant enough
hollow ibex
lol
and man
unpowered is straight up ass
might as well just use your gun at that point jfc
i wonder if unpowered psword or unpowered falch is worse
tall torrent
unpowered is straight up ass
It’s a 1 point cheaper but worse Rashad
tall torrent
and people say is dog water
It’s meh
tropic halo
Idk but i feel unpowered falchion feels bit better than Psword
midnight wyvern
and people say is dog water
it can do that at high heat to 1 bro
tropic halo
I vibe with falchion with enough practise
midnight wyvern
hollow ibex
It’s a 1 point cheaper but worse Rashad
what would you drop for it 🤔
midnight wyvern
attack speed
hollow ibex
and people say is dog water
i mean that's a juiced as fuck test lol
tropic halo
At least we agree it's meh
I like bad things too
tall torrent
what would you drop for it 🤔
TFD
fallen needle
When looking at percentages on a weapon, is there anything I need to look out for?
hollow ibex
When looking at percentages on a weapon, is there anything I need to look out fo...
most weapons have a dump stat
midnight wyvern
When looking at percentages on a weapon, is there anything I need to look out fo...
how do you mean?
midnight wyvern
but they are rare
tropic halo
What is a dump stat on the hellbore?
Stability
midnight wyvern
ammo or stability
depends on if you want to dump ammo
stability is just free tho
tropic halo
You can use the pinned guides to look through each weapon and their dump stat
fallen needle
You can use the pinned guides to look through each weapon and their dump stat
Oh? Didnt know that was a thing
tropic halo
All class channels have it
midnight wyvern
it'll also help with the acronyms
tropic halo
Though with recent rework of other three classes, i think is gonna need some changes
hollow ibex
It rly doesn’t affect the atk speed that much on this weapon
yeah ig not strictly necessary
hollow ibex
i'm taking it on the way to serrated blade anyway
tame lodge
Damage?
There is only 1 weapon in the game that dumps damage stat
That weapon is the Zealot's Flamer
fallen needle
Why's that?
unreal nova
Why's that?
Because 4 damage or so changes nothing unless maybe uprising.
The Inferno staff would dump it as well if it didn't have warp resistance.
unreal nova
yeah ig not strictly necessary
But funni even on knoife.
hollow ibex
Yeah I like it even if it just means draining my energy faster on power falchion lol
bleak adder
Cant wait to get back from work and hop on dt
The new vet is so nice comoared to the old vet
fallen needle
Hersey unlocked
faint beacon
The unpowered attacks are still ass unfortunately
Thankfully they actually kill chaffe hordes, it’s issues spring up when it’s a mixed horde
I still very much like it as a melee but it’s not PS level
Also give path like 3 months
Me and Ainz are slacking but acknowledged yesterday we should work on the penance section
midnight wyvern
Thankfully they actually kill chaffe hordes, it’s issues spring up when it’s a m...
darksouls sword hitting a wall gif
tall torrent
Me and Ainz are slacking but acknowledged yesterday we should work on the penanc...
I’m prob just gonna use kuli’s guide for enemies
Not sure if I wanna keep working on that section
faint beacon
darksouls sword hitting a wall gif
The scab rager being said wall
faint beacon
Not sure if I wanna keep working on that section
The penance section?
tall torrent
The penance section?
Enemy breakdown
narrow frost
Where did Kuli have his enemy breakdown?
tropic notch
Quick question, is this YouTuber's build good? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...
Mr e isn’t good at build crafting ask regulars in the chats for builds
narrow frost
Jesus
Gotta love the work Kuli puts in
Really the only source anyone can agree on in this community
sullen scarab
I'm always confused when I saw YouTuber builds skipping on Iron Will, I'm like how are you alive
faint beacon
One of vets best talents
turbid ibex
they aint
faint beacon
Makes you able to handle shooter spam which is 90% of why youll take tick damage
sullen scarab
Exactly
I always miss it when I play any other class and gunners actually hurt lmao
hoary marsh
I think i skipped it on my current build. Might add it back in.
sullen scarab
Also I'm following Bath's bolter builds which are great but no One Motion so I guess I have to get used to hitting Executioner Stance to pull the bolt gun out or give up Longshot lol
You should, it's so easy to get now lol
hoary marsh
I kinda switch between superiority complex and iron will depending on my weapon setup.
Ill take both for certain weapons though. Mainly ones that don't need any benefit from lock and load or always prepared.
mortal aspen
I kinda switch between superiority complex and iron will depending on my weapon ...
Iron Will is like 90% of your damage reduction
why would anyone ever not take it
not even remotely comparable with anything else
hoary marsh
Its dependent. Like I said. Also avoidance is the game for me. Dont get hit. Lol
sullen scarab
Its beautiful.....
hoary marsh
Worst part of Bolgun is how nightmareishly slow it is to pull out. Lol
sullen scarab
I guess on this shout build I could move the specialist reload speed one over to one motion instead for comfort
mortal aspen
Its dependent. Like I said. Also avoidance is the game for me. Dont get hit. Lol
so you don't take any defensive talents at all?
tall torrent
I guess on this shout build I could move the specialist reload speed one over to...
Yea works
mortal aspen
like if you're gonna sacrifice some defense, Iron Will is the last thing to throw away
hoary marsh
so you don't take any defensive talents at all?
It depends. If I am doing auric I'll take some and loose some damage. But on damnation or heresy I can pretty much not get hit so I take more damage.
sullen scarab
Yeah I feel like with Kraks I keep "saving" them
with frags I just got apeshit USE EM OR LOOSE EM
midnight wyvern
with frags I just got apeshit USE EM OR LOOSE EM
more things to use frags on as well
though it is funny to throw them at random things
hoary marsh
The grenade regen being guarantee was a nice change.
sullen scarab
Yes lmao
midnight wyvern
hoary marsh
I like to take tinker with krak, but I end up saving them as well. Frag is nice all around.
Horde. Yeet!
hoary marsh
Hahah.
sullen scarab
🤣
hoary marsh
These event missions and snipers are outta hand though. What's with the 10 snipers in one room moments?
tall torrent
FT and not MMF? And you’re not doing crit bolter? 🤔
I figured out a way to build boltgun where it can 3 tap crushers without crit
And without shattering impact lol
So I’m running puncture + PF rn
sullen scarab
Dude the spawns are insane, last night I was playing with a friend and I literally could not move from teh amount of ragers and snipers and what have you lmao
hollow ibex
I figured out a way to build boltgun where it can 3 tap crushers without crit
Need rending strikes to make that happen?
hoary marsh
Why exploit weakness and skirmisher?
mortal aspen
free damage
turbid ibex
free damage
tall torrent
Need rending strikes to make that happen?
Yea but both Rashad and falchion benefit from it vs carapace
So it’s not that big of a deal
steep flower
tall torrent
It’s like giving both ur weapons an extra carapace damage perk
unreal nova
though it is funny to throw them at random things
Like a trapper's head... Totally not accidentally.
hoary marsh
Been awhile since I've seen skirmishes stack.
hollow ibex
Yea but both Rashad and falchion benefit from it vs carapace
Thanks I’ll try with normal bolter
turbid ibex
it procs from sliding now
hoary marsh
I feel like i can proc agile easier. Ill have to run and see.
hollow ibex
I really want to make power falchion work better l lol
steel surge
Mr e isn’t good at build crafting ask regulars in the chats for builds
Yup, saw the build work out for a random teammate so thought it could be an exception. Got any builds to recommend? I'm up for trying any weapons.
mortal aspen
youtuber builds will work just fine for auric and probably even high havoc (if that's advertised). may not be optimal, but might as well try
hollow ibex
Yup, saw the build work out for a random teammate so thought it could be an exce...
One of my favorites
If you like grenades
You’ll like this
steel surge
I do, haven't used the shotgun so happy to find out if it's good
hollow ibex
Takes advantage of the massive damage you can stack from infil and skirmisher
To delete mixed hordes with bleed
hoary marsh
Dude the spawns are insane, last night I was playing with a friend and I literal...
Yeah last night in a blackout mission I turned a corner and just had like 10 snipers aiming at me. Blasting into the darkness mid horde and dodging snipers as insane.
mortal aspen
Hotfix to make Infil 30s CD fatshark pls
steel surge
Takes advantage of the massive damage you can stack from infil and skirmisher
sounds great, which enemies do you target with the grenades?
faint beacon
tracks their heads
Deserved for being the most annoying elite
hoary marsh
Frag so anything really. It can stagger basically everything anyways. So good use whenever r
steel surge
Gonna test it after dinner, thanks!
hoary marsh
You get regen grenade every 60s so don't be stingy. Lol
hollow ibex
sounds great, which enemies do you target with the grenades?
Anything short of crushers. Just stealth and drop two grenades.
Whenever a big ass horde shows up
Esp one with a lot of elites
steel surge
Death to all plasmagunners
hollow ibex
Otherwise make good use of shotgun and Rashad
Every three melee kills switch to shotgun and fire into the horde
Free crit and infinite cleave
mortal aspen
Death to all plasmagunners
Smoke Grenade stonks
hoary marsh
Every three melee kills switch to shotgun and fire into the horde
WS with that ammo reload is amazing on shotguns and revolver.
Also has the Devil Claw sword always been this good? I feel like my journey to master all the other weapons and coming back to the devil claw it seems way stronger. Parry literally everything it seems.
hollow ibex
They’ve buffed it repeatedly but still sucks
I mean anything will work on vet with right side talents
But Dclaw is still not a good weapon
hoary marsh
Yeah it falls short on certain parts on raw damage, but that parry window sometimes almost makes me feel immune. Parry like 5 hits at once.
midnight wyvern
Deserved for being the most annoying elite
tropic notch
Yup, saw the build work out for a random teammate so thought it could be an exce...
Yeah one sec
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d51275b-f9c4-4494-9b88-bfafbbbf4981/terrible-vet-build @steel surge try this
midnight wyvern
anyone got a build for recon for the memes
tropic notch
@steel surge if you want krak take off grenadier for nade tinker
midnight wyvern
<@518542322284232715> if you want krak take off grenadier for nade tinker
or take both
fallen needle
Damnation unlocked
mortal aspen
They’ve buffed it repeatedly but still sucks
buffed it so many times only to give its niche to an already overperforming weapon
fallen needle
anyone got a build for recon for the memes
Recon lasgun? I have one i just finished
hollow ibex
buffed it so many times only to give its niche to an already overperforming weap...
True…
fresh dome
Is there a cap to rending? what happen if you go above 100%?
hollow ibex
Is there a cap to rending? what happen if you go above 100%?
It gets converted into damage
At 25 percent
So effectively drops off significantly once your rending goes above 100 percent
fresh dome
ok cause I'm making a infiltration vet with smoke grenade cause f*&% those new plasma gunner
void dragon
buffed it so many times only to give its niche to an already overperforming weap...
honestly that's the most hilarious part for me, used to get the DClaw on my "lasgun only" build but now i have to ask myself "why take Dclaw when DS is not only better, BUSTED even, but does its only niche BETTER?"
fair shale
Smoke nades best nades
Tbh dont run infil run exe with it and shoot them through the smoke
fresh dome
Smoke nades best nades
Preventing Plasma gunner from killing the squad will be fun
fallen needle
Smoke is pretty useful
Dudes just seem to stop shooting and run through it
fair shale
I saw some dude in arb chat talking about their exe bolter set up one tapping them
fair shale
Smoke is pretty useful
Dudes just seem to stop shooting and run through it
Correct
Smoke sets your engagement range
void dragon
Pit fight in the smokers aley
fair shale
Which is harder to use than "i blow thing up now" but infinitely more valuable
void dragon
no plasma gunns allowed
fallen needle
Then again I only started playing last night so I may be wrong
fair shale
Ive been playing this game since launch
A little before then actually
Smoke is incredible
void dragon
Then again I only started playing last night so I may be wrong
smokes are situational, but the situation that they help is very good and not so rare
fair shale
Well. Barring that one hiatus.
fair shale
smokes are situational, but the situation that they help is very good and not so...
And that situation becomes more lethal and less rare the higher in diff you go
fresh dome
before krak grenade was more valuable cause mauler was the big threat in hordes now that the highest threat as move to plasma gunners smoke grenade seems better
fallen needle
Ive been playing this game since launch
Any words of wisdom for a new guy? Already have: learn to dodge and slide, aim for the head, and keep your toughness maxed out if you can
void dragon
kraks are good now that they can kill stuff like new buffed crushers all the way to Havoc 40 (trinkerer) and other enemies like bulwarks and bosses
fair shale
Any words of wisdom for a new guy? Already have: learn to dodge and slide, aim f...
Learn how to use your melee, melee is in intrinsic part of the Tide games and not becoming intimately familiar with it is something you will feel as you climb in diffs.
Lotta new players i see treat the game like shooter cause low diffs let you
narrow frost
And learn sound queues
hoary marsh
Learn the dodge, melee, block or parry dance and you will survive.
To easy to juat swing for the fences in this and not slow down for a moment snd block that one attack that gets through.
void dragon
Any words of wisdom for a new guy? Already have: learn to dodge and slide, aim f...
stay with team and make sure to have someone 1. being in charge of slowing down the hordes (crowd control) but not be the only one (have others with lesser like frag nades) 2. give cover fire to platers that are behind, the reason ppl dont move as fast is becasue bein harrased by dogs and other jerks, shoot them and they will aslo move faster
fresh dome
My main is Zealot so I got the melee combat on point, Block, push, side (back) dodge, sprint slide to dodge bullets. All important to be weaved inside your melee combat
void dragon
And learn sound queues
until you meet the Plasma gunners, do we know if they have unique voice lines?
fair shale
Also, yeah, shooting the dog off someone or taking someone out of the net from a trapper is always prio number 1
Flat out bar none
fresh dome
until you meet the Plasma gunners, do we know if they have unique voice lines?
As they are elites and not specialist they do not have voice line
fair shale
And i guess my niche advice is that revive speed is genuinely one of the best things you can put on a curio
void dragon
protecting team > stay near eachother > objetive
fresh dome
Infiltration is nice to do objective while stealth or to go revive a downed teamate
narrow frost
until you meet the Plasma gunners, do we know if they have unique voice lines?
Who knows, haven't heard them
fair shale
Plasma gunners have unique lines but the audio balance on them is real low
void dragon
Who knows, haven't heard them
neither me or my teammate who got blasted by an execution squad
fair shale
So you'll hear them but you won't hear them
fresh dome
Who knows, haven't heard them
Na elite enemies doesn't have sound queus, only specialist enemies like trappers, dogs, snipers have tells that let you know
void dragon
Elite enemies that are THIS dangerous should have some telegraph
unreal nova
Na elite enemies doesn't have sound queus, only specialist enemies like trappers...
No, you can hear elites when the sound engine isn't crapping out.
void dragon
reason why ninja crushers are my bane
fallen needle
Learn how to use your melee, melee is in intrinsic part of the Tide games and no...
Melee i may have down? For the assault chainsword. Pretty simple to rev when you see a big dude or someone with armor
narrow frost
Na elite enemies doesn't have sound queus, only specialist enemies like trappers...
Sounds queues aren't only spawn in sounds. It's also alert sounds, shooting sounds, and targeting you sounds
And voicelines
fair shale
Melee i *may* have down? For the assault chainsword. Pretty simple to rev when y...
Oh you sweet summer child, you'll see.
narrow frost
I've only heard plasma when it hit me
fallen needle
Oh you sweet summer child, you'll see.
That's not ominus at all
fresh dome
Sounds queues aren't only spawn in sounds. It's also alert sounds, shooting soun...
I guess they have the plasma rev up but the rev is very quickly
void dragon
I've only heard plasma when it hit me
i only know they have spawned because i got shot by those jerks, they have good range for being Shotgunners+
unreal nova
I guess they have the plasma rev up but the rev is very quickly
Too quick even tbh. Faster than captains which is dumb.
void dragon
yeah, why they shoot so fast when it feels that they are shooting charged shots?
meager echo
What would be the sensible adjustment for them? Lower rate of fire ?
fair shale
That's not ominus at all
I'm not gonna tell you not to use chainsword cause I find it very fun but I will tell you that using it in such a manner will sometimes lead to you ending up in less than ideal situations. But learning is half the fun.
narrow frost
Change them to specials or make them more noticable/have working sound queues/lower fire rate/nerf debuff
fair shale
And you'll eventually develop more taste for melees
Personally my favorite on vet is knife
void dragon
i feel that and better audio alerts, its quite easy for a crew of 4 to down a player because their rate of fire is quite high
fair shale
I feel like this game has been having more audio bugs as its lifespan goes on
unreal nova
I feel like this game has been having more audio bugs as its lifespan goes on
Sound engine just can't deal with the increased spawn rates.
It's why you get less sound issues in lower diff.
fair shale
That explains a lot tbh
fallen needle
And you'll eventually develop more taste for melees
Kinda developing
Like I love the shovel but it usually feels like im fighting for my life instead of actually clearing up the horde
unreal nova
Because amount of stuff is less.
fair shale
Kinda developing
Like I love the shovel but it usually feels like im fighting f...
Shovel is one of my favorites too, its very safe
unreal nova
Uprising usually has no issues, malice might get. Heresy and up, I have had it crash and burn so no sounds for like a sec or 2 often.
Higher the diff, the more likely.
The background music still plays though.
hollow ibex
Kinda developing
Like I love the shovel but it usually feels like im fighting f...
It’s much better if you take the bottom right melee talents
steel surge
<@518542322284232715> if you want krak take off grenadier for nade tinker
Thanks, more variety to test
undone jungle
have the inf las guns been buffed
cus my gf says they have less recoil and im in game rn
hollow ibex
have the inf las guns been buffed
They were not touched
tame lodge
yeah, why they shoot so fast when it feels that they are shooting charged shots?
Optimized Cooling
narrow frost
cus my gf says they have less recoil and im in game rn
Less recoil probably because vet now has suppression immunity built into the class
Just a guess
undone jungle
Less recoil probably because vet now has suppression immunity built into the cla...
she's playing psyker is the werid thing
narrow frost
Ah.
narrow frost
Then placebo
undone jungle
the slow firing one shes using
narrow frost
There was no las gun change
steel surge
Gonna guess dump stat on combat axe and double barreled shotgun is mobility?
tame lodge
Yeah
hollow ibex
Gonna guess dump stat on combat axe and double barreled shotgun is mobility?
If you’re trying the build I linked it should have all the info needed
steel surge
Doing the stealth bomber atm
fallen needle
It’s much better if you take the bottom right melee talents
Ah, cant send pics
Bottom right i have reciprocity, desparado, and onslaught
narrow frost
Gonna guess dump stat on combat axe and double barreled shotgun is mobility?
Reload speed is an honorable mention if taking always prepared on the weapon special keystone
But mobility is always safe to dump
gilded wraith
If I go Ex-Stance and Marksman's Focus, do you think Laspistol MK2 edges out Recon Mk6c?
With the finesse gains?
hollow ibex
Ah, cant send pics
Bottom right i have reciprocity, desparado, and onslaught
Don’t take onslaught, just follow the build
hollow ibex
If I go Ex-Stance and Marksman's Focus, do you think Laspistol MK2 edges out Rec...
Prob
Recon has never has the best dps
Just safe and very easy to use
fallen needle
Don’t take onslaught, just follow the build
The build?
gilded wraith
Follow up, does laspistol still have an innate crit bonus, or did I imagine that?
undone jungle
Follow up, does laspistol still have an innate crit bonus, or did I imagine that...
it dooooo
like 15% i think
gilded wraith
Thank you!
soft solstice
It should have an inmate 15% crit chance I’m pretty sure
undone jungle
the info in the pinned hammer of the emperor should he the inherent crit chance listed there
its outdated but
mortal aspen
man, the penetration on the alt bolter mark is so bad
undone jungle
probably still accurate
gilded wraith
Yeah, just lazy and my phone hates word docs.
serene bough
How do people use their falchion
soft solstice
I don’t remember crit chance on any weapons ever being changed
serene bough
Ive been using in my ranged builds and reg psword for melee builds
undone jungle
How do people use their falchion
like combos or builds
serene bough
Builds
undone jungle
i use it in place of any versatile weapon like rashad or shovel even though its either worse or on par with em :P
its just fun ig
hybrid plover
man, the penetration on the alt bolter mark is so bad
It's alright given it knocks everything around Impact on its ass
undone jungle
i dont think regular powersword is actually good in pure melee builds
soft solstice
I build mine with the finesse on 1 shot talent and the reduced build up on headshot, than just use it like a power sword on cooldown instead of having to reactivate it
undone jungle
you hardly hit breakpoints and it straight up doesnt need melee buffs
if you're a sweat use rashad in pure melee setups tbh
if you play for fun then honestly the new falchion is prob good for pure melee
serene bough
I havent tried Rashad for H40
hybrid plover
New bolter's become my fav vet weapon honestly
serene bough
I typically stuck with ps6 for h40
soft solstice
I do like the knockback and auto vent on reaching full heat on relic blade but I like building for damage with the vet one I use
undone jungle
New bolter's become my fav vet weapon honestly
rllyyyyy how do you build it? i havent given it a honest try yet
I've been using the buffed vigilant single shot lately
its absurd
mortal aspen
It's alright given it knocks everything around Impact on its ass
yeah, but when I shoot into a conga line of elites it doesn't have the same kind of oomph
the aoe stagger is nice
hoary marsh
Which hellbore is the better one?
hybrid plover
rllyyyyy how do you build it? i havent given it a honest try yet
I've learned that it is just not meant to be boss killing bullet hose like regular is
undone jungle
Which hellbore is the better one?
mostly depends on what you want but recently people have been shilling mk V with weight of fire
soft solstice
The AOE is nice but I just feel like I’d rather a proper anti elite weapon than a more supportive one
mortal aspen
don't get me wrong, the new bolter still does really good damage
undone jungle
I've learned that it is just not meant to be boss killing bullet hose like regul...
what does it do then
hoary marsh
mostly depends on what you want but recently people have been shilling mk V with...
Hmm. OK. Trying to master it now. Using the MkIV, since its ADS damage was higher. Thank yuo!
undone jungle
Hmm. OK. Trying to master it now. Using the MkIV, since its ADS damage was highe...
people mostly use MKV like the inf lasguns but better
soft solstice
I never liked the big bolter and the bolt pistol is a fun mobile 1 tap deagle sorta gun so a version with less damage and ammo is less appealing to me
hoary marsh
people mostly use MKV like the inf lasguns but better
Oh! Ok. I use the Inf Lasgun all the time. Ill swap it and give it a shot.
undone jungle
i tried using it but it didnt feel enough to warrant a damage nerf
ebon prism
heyo
soft solstice
Giant AOE with a ton of stagger but a bit less ammo and damage, also no piercing through enemies
ebon prism
what's the best Lucius mark lasgun now?
undone jungle
what's the best Lucius mark lasgun now?
scroll up like 10 messages (its subjective tho)
hybrid plover
what does it do then
Run flak + maniac, use it as a marksman rifle for priority targets and if you get a big horde, pull it out and fire some shots to push the horde back
turbid ibex
whats the new bistols gimmick tbh
same as new bolter
undone jungle
Run flak + maniac, use it as a marksman rifle for priority targets and if you ge...
inch resting
hybrid plover
It mulches mixed hordes really well.
ebon prism
scroll up like 10 messages (its subjective tho)
Thanks!
soft solstice
I’d rather a shotgun for close range, but the stagger on it from any range is appealing, stagger that group of plasma gunners that are 20 feet away