its fine
#veteran-class
sudden cedar
@outer wolf If you play Veteran, for H40 you would need extra health otherwise you get oneshot by a poxburster
old cobalt
for recon lasgun vet build, should I go with something with horde clear or something more like a DS?
outer wolf
<@218026426144784385> If you play Veteran, for H40 you would need extra health o...
Yeah, that's why I am asking
will go x2 toughness + x1 HP and 5% HP each for the perks
covert fable
for recon lasgun vet build, should I go with something with horde clear or somet...
i would focus on single target dmg
old cobalt
sworb it is. Time to get gambling.
I figure having a perfect roll on a Recon Lasgun, Hellbore and Bolt Pistol for ranged and a perfect roll on Combat Axe/Dueling sword should be a good start
covert fable
for recon lasgun vet build, should I go with something with horde clear or somet...
did you mean to ask what melee to pair with the lasgun?
old cobalt
yee, thats why a mentioned the DS
covert fable
ahh
willow prairie
<@218026426144784385> If you play Veteran, for H40 you would need extra health o...
simply don't get bursted
covert fable
yee, thats why a mentioned the DS
Ds works yeah
I believe your main objective should be those specials when playing veteran
Not hordeclear
red portal
simply don't get bursted
The nefarious trauma staff psyker
willow prairie
tfw flayer proc on burster
old cobalt
That's what I figured. I'd probably uhhh. either run...
Recon Lasgun / Dueling Sword
or
Hellbore Lasgun / Combat Axe
willow prairie
recon is extremely shit in hsvoc unfortunately
willow prairie
I mean yeah
red portal
But ammo efficiency 
willow prairie
good ammo economy don't fix shitty ttk
covert fable
That's what I figured. I'd probably uhhh. either run...
Recon Lasgun / Dueling S...
Combat axe is insane
willow prairie
combat axe with weapon specialist
old cobalt
yeah i plan on taking Hellbore for when I'm trying but there's also something so satisfying about seeing a hallway of enemies and just holding down m1 for 18 consecutive seconds
grand perch
recon is extremely shit in hsvoc unfortunately
what? no. one of the meta choices
covert fable
Combat axe has insane hordeclear also
old cobalt
Combat axe has insane hordeclear also
hence why I plan to take it with Hellbore
willow prairie
combat axe horde clear is honestly meh in havoc
covert fable
hence why I plan to take it with Hellbore
I would just use it over DS at this point lol
old cobalt
Hellbore/Combat axe should be SERVICABLE in HC
willow prairie
bm make it keep up in auric storm but in havoc density it isn't fast enuff
plus it also pretty stamina intensive since you want to do pa when you accidentally hit non weakspot kill
old cobalt
yee ive been looking at heavy sword as well
My only issue with Recon Lasgun has been getting used to the falloff range
It hits HARD
covert fable
yee ive been looking at heavy sword as well
Kind of forces you to use bolter
Tho its fun
old cobalt
Yee
Im just trying to get one good starter build on every character after wiping my account
willow prairie
why
old cobalt
and re-learning everything
old cobalt
why
Because when I take long breaks from games I like starting fresh
cant miss progress if you dont remember what you had, and it helps re-learn basics
red portal
I could never wipe my darktide account seems like too much work for way too little gain.
Exactly 0 gain in my opinion
willow prairie
also playing on low difficulty is torture
covert fable
I could understand wiping story games but darktide idk
old cobalt
I mean I never played the game seriously. At all.
red portal
First thing I do when I create a new character is getting taxied to damnation/auric
old cobalt
I picked what talents I had and if a gun was orange that was good enough for me
covert fable
You could probably get away with that now
old cobalt
so i wasnt losing like 500+ hours
It was mostly just me dicking around on zealot
So far I'm going...
- Lasgun Shout Vet
- Fury/Judgment Zealot
- SG Gunker
- Indom/Hitter Ogryn
Those are what I gotta work on
I got all 4 up to 30 and now I'm just trying to tweak builds for preference and figure out what weapon combos I find the easiest to use, because everyone knows the REAL meta is whatever the fuck you perform best with
and not what reddit says is the meta
covert fable
Try the infantry autoguns for vet
covert fable
Yessir
red portal
How is the ammo efficiency on the infantry auto?
red portal
So same as the bolter basically.
You use it to nuke monstrosities and possibly taking out a few gunners and snipers and that's it.
old cobalt
Or killing specials SOMETIMES if
A) You're out of assail
or B) The target has head armor
And that target is ALSO not in melee and is ALSO not being attacked by any other member of the--
you use it for bosses
for vet if you want a gun to use as an actual primary your options are basically Recon Lasgun and Hellbore
thats about it
at least from my research
covert fable
No
old cobalt
I haven't been able to find any builds centered around gunplay that DON'T use lasguns
red portal
I'm tempted to use db on psyker
old cobalt
thats less of a primary and more of something you weave in between melee though
covert fable
Infantry autogun is better on vet than psyker i believe
old cobalt
I'm tempted to use db on psyker
If you run SG that could work lmao
red portal
If you run SG that could work lmao
Why would you run gun psyker without SG?
I guess bubble for havoc maybe
old cobalt
bubble, yeah.
Also some people just don't like staffs like
A fair amount of people use off-meta picks just because they're more enjoyable
narrow widget
recon is extremely shit in hsvoc unfortunately
hollow ibex
recon is extremely shit in hsvoc unfortunately
oh boyu
umbral scaffold
anyone got good infantry lasgun build laying around ? for auric stuff mainly
i havent played any other class besides arbites since it came out so forgot everything and dont know anymore
hollow ibex
you start by not taking ilas
narrow widget
you start by swapping ilas with the almighty bolt gun
umbral scaffold
so ilas sucks major ass ?
boltgun is the best and i use it all the time on the god allmighty arbitrator
midnight wyvern
so ilas sucks major ass ?
yes
willow prairie
if you want to play ilas use laspistol
void dragon
the iLas has inverted falloff damage (farter target is it deals more damage) which doesnt work well in current Darktide
Recon has better mid range performance, so better for what you will be facing
and Laspistol has good crit rate plus beast mobility
both weapons will do work
willow prairie
this game server is ass
formal ice
willow prairie
what with swedish dev and shittiest game server in existence
hybrid plover
Depends on what u want out of your melee
midnight wyvern
not true
hollow ibex
just take power sword 
tall torrent
In 2.5 days time we get power falchion
hybrid plover
In 2.5 days time we get power falchion
And we have had
No information regarding it
tall torrent
Zero blog
Zero announcement
Zero trailer
faint beacon
Guys we promise to be more upfront with our updates
hollow ibex
In 2.5 days time we get power falchion
ah an optimist
tall torrent
ah an optimist
Well they said Sep23
tall torrent
Absolutely
Quickpaw has had a private post for a while now
faint beacon
SMEAGOL KEEP THE POWER FALCHION FOR SELF
hollow ibex
faint beacon
Me tweaking the fuck out over the possibility of a new melee for vet
tall torrent
If power falchion is borderline overpowered then vet will have 2 good melee weapons for actually fighting enemies
candid pasture
helgun when
faint beacon
I just want it to not only be the dogass mortis shit
My expectations are for it to not be actually throwing when you pick it
Cause PS >>>>> Falchion this is a given
PS is just that busted in its current state
hybrid plover
helgun when
candid pasture
serene bough
anyone got good infantry lasgun build laying around ? for auric stuff mainly
You basically want to damage max it with everything to 1tap most enemies
Exe stance, MMF, both rending nodes (MMF subnode + rending strikes)
But as others have eluded to its not the strongest option right now
candid pasture
did an executioner stance kant lasgun build that can one shot headshot everything bar crushers and maulers in the auric meatgrinder
you will get brow beat for not taking shout tho
hybrid plover
you will get brow beat for not taking shout tho
Only in havoc really
serene bough
No shout in auric is acceptable to most people but in havoc you'll definitely get some scorn from my experience
narrow frost
Bring revive shout they'll love you
I bring wee woo vet Into havoc cause the reactions are funny
candid pasture
but yeah kant 9 inf lasgun is the way to go for headshots
headhunter and deadly accurate with all the weakspot stuff and you'll be laughing
serene bough
Best ilas mark is IIb, you can reach all the same breakpoints with far greater ammo econ and rate of fire
Mk9 can do some interesting crusher killing but i wouldn't say its too practical
sly orchid
Me tweaking the fuck out over the possibility of a new melee for vet
at this point i dont just want a single new melee for vet
candid pasture
i may be stuck in my ways as i swore by kant 9 in beta til i dropped the game for a bit hah
sly orchid
i want 2 ranged and 2 melee
hybrid plover
Mk9 can do some interesting crusher killing but i wouldn't say its too practical
To be fair, none of the ilas guns are "practical" nowadays
serene bough
Kant 9 used to be king but it had a heavy fall from grace
tall torrent
at this point i dont just want a single new melee for vet
At this point it should be 2 melee weapons + 1 ranged weapon
tall torrent
But the truth is the “new vet stuff” they promised is prob ultimately just the arb dlc class for us to buy 
serene bough
To be fair, none of the ilas guns are "practical" nowadays
If were talkin auric IIb is more than practical, its that you actually have to aim your gun and not bullet hose M1 spam like recon (which does its job better lol)
hybrid plover
But the truth is the “new vet stuff” they promised is prob ultimately just the a...
"I'm you but stronger" ahh class
tall torrent
1 new weapon with 2 variants is not enough to justify 10 months of nothing
sharp hamlet
Honestly, I am indifferent about the new melee. Still no volleygun.
sly orchid
1 new weapon with 2 variants is not enough to justify 10 months of nothing
real asf
sharp hamlet
I require maximum BRRRRT and recon las just doesn’t hit anymore ☹️
hybrid plover
If were talkin auric IIb is more than practical, its that you actually have to ...
I mean it's workable but my point is that every single ilas is outclassed at this point.
candid pasture
kinda wish they'd combine shock troop, fully loaded and add rending into one keystone node replacing marksmens focus to make a "hellgun" or something capstone
hybrid plover
If you really cared for practicality, you probably wouldn't be using one to begin with
But using offmeta stuff is fun
serene bough
Eh, IIb isn't that outclassed
Ilas family definitely not the strongest but you can still use and be pretty potent
candid pasture
i do headbutt with my chainsword and kant 9 occasionally because deuling sword plasma gets boring after a bit
serene bough
But they do need some well needed buffs
hybrid plover
i do headbutt with my chainsword and kant 9 occasionally because deuling sword p...
Knife plasma more fun
candid pasture
Knife plasma more fun
deuling sword is just a really long knife rn 😭
hybrid plover
Too op otherwise
You know it's funny
Because I've been given shit for using it on vet in havoc before
serene bough
Knife in havoc is basically a safety stick
hybrid plover
It's like people forgot that it's actually really strong
tall torrent
It’s ok but not as good as DS since u need stamina to max dps with it
candid pasture
Because I've been given shit for using it on vet in havoc before
people will cry if you dare to bring anything that isn't in their headcanon meta
tall torrent
It’s significantly stronger on zealot
Cuz duellist op
And second wind op
And zealot has way better stamina management (highest regen rate)
hybrid plover
Tis why I bring a stam delay at all times with knife
candid pasture
i guess if you can manage to bring "Rending Strikes" "onslaught" and the left side branch of the weapon specialist tree you'd be laughing with that letter opener
hybrid plover
i guess if you can manage to bring "Rending Strikes" "onslaught" and the left si...
Rending strikes and onslaught are memes tho
tall torrent
It's like people forgot that it's actually really strong
Knife player has 2 stereotypes
The speed runner
And the rookie
tall torrent
i guess if you can manage to bring "Rending Strikes" "onslaught" and the left si...
Neither is worth taking for knife
candid pasture
Neither is worth taking for knife
more bring them for my recon las
guess you have that one perk thats definately getting nerfed
hybrid plover
more bring them for my recon las
I suppose this is valid actually
tall torrent
What perk
hybrid plover
You mean uncanny?
candid pasture
uncanny
tall torrent
U don’t have to run uncanny for knife to be op
lol
Uncanny is just a fast and boring way to achieve that
tropic notch
people will cry if you dare to bring anything that isn't in their headcanon meta
Don’t worry about them run what you want
hybrid plover
I run my knife on vet with precog and executor lol
candid pasture
oh cool
idk, i don't thhink too much about melee stuff
as long as it can kill and make space im happy
hybrid plover
It has enough penetration that as long as you can hit good damage numbers, uncanny can be replaced.
Uncanny is mostly good because it buffs DoTs
loud kiln
Fellow veteran enjoyers
candid pasture
Tbh I ran dbarrel knife in havoc when in came out
that build is pretty fun tbh
tall torrent
Knife is op because melee fundamentals are irrelevant when u can run at >7m/s and nothing can hit u and it’s among the highest single target dps weapons in the game
sly orchid
imagine precognition on taxe
hybrid plover
And vet has shredders
sly orchid
taxe dont need it lole
tall torrent
Imagine uncanny strike
Not even relevant on this weapon
tropic notch
Not even relevant on this weapon
I know……
tall torrent
U have 100% or higher ADM on everything but carapace
tropic notch
loud kiln
I put uncanny on dueling
tropic notch
U have 100% or higher ADM on everything but carapace
Oh wait Fr?
I didn’t know that
hybrid plover
Oh wait Fr?
Ye
tropic notch
Guh
tall torrent
Oh wait Fr?
U can literally open damage table and read 💀
tropic notch
U can literally open damage table and read 💀
sly orchid
U have 100% or higher ADM on everything but carapace
hey path use precog relentless strikes on dueling sword
tropic notch
I put uncanny on dueling
Uncanny riposte is the most generalist thing you can put on it
tall torrent
hey path use precog relentless strikes on dueling sword
That’s the boss dps setup but it’s still not fun
Duelling sword just has zero complexity
tall torrent
Yk it’s quite telling when combat axe has at least 20x the complexity of dueling sword lol
tropic notch
Knife is op because melee fundamentals are irrelevant when u can run at >7m/s an...
Ahhhh I remember when I used to main knife
loud kiln
Uncanny riposte is the most generalist thing you can put on it
I don't run a melee focused build, so having a generalist melee seemed like a good pick, i have uncanny + riposte, and +25% to ubyeilding and armpoured caraspace
Might remove the unyeilding
candid pasture
i still like chainsword 
tall torrent
Keep unyielding
loud kiln
Really?
hybrid plover
Might remove the unyeilding
Keep that
tall torrent
Really?
Yea DS is not generalist melee at all it’s just an overtuned single target poking stick
tropic notch
I don't run a melee focused build, so having a generalist melee seemed like a go...
I’d highly recommend a melee focused build
hybrid plover
Then switch cara
tall torrent
Maniacs just give me a hard time
Dreg ragers?
loud kiln
Dreg ragers?
Maulers
hybrid plover
Uncanny on max stacks makes dueling sword do more than enough damage
loud kiln
Oh
tropic notch
Wait till they try power sword
serene bough
I still haven't used the dueling sword lol
tropic notch
hybrid plover
I guess keep carapace then
loud kiln
Armor catagories confuse me so much
tropic notch
hybrid plover
Or technically, maulers are considered "flak armored"
tropic notch
The vet build tm
hybrid plover
But they have carapace weakspots
loud kiln
I’d highly recommend a melee focused build
Idk,i can't play veteran without running my guardsmen fantasy
I do onslaught with recon las
candid pasture
i like boltpistol a lot
loud kiln
Lasmax
candid pasture
feels pretty nimble
serene bough
Bistol + ps6 are what I use for havoc
tropic notch
I might switch too a grenade focused build
That’s the build I sent
tropic notch
But at that point id switch to orgyn
Oggy is more melee
tall torrent
I wish boltpistol was good
tropic notch
I wish boltpistol was good
I only run it because of lethal prox
loud kiln
Oggy is more melee
I can chuck a box and watch a room blow up though, that activates my nuerons
tropic notch
1333/1400 on maniac headshot
Puncture will clean it up
tall torrent
So cringe
The weapon’s design is ass
Everything is off
Recoil still not fixed
Reload just a bit slower than it should be
loud kiln
Just don’t miss the head
Literally my entire build is just that. I'm either headclicking or i don't have ammo
tropic notch
Literally my entire build is just that. I'm either headclicking or i don't have ...
I mean for lower diffs that’ll work
loud kiln
I'm in damnation
hybrid plover
I'm in damnation
Oh you're fine then
loud kiln
I'm doing fun stuff until I'm in havoc
hybrid plover
Yeah this chat is filled with a bunch of psychos
loud kiln
In 40k? Spycho is a compliment
tropic notch
@tall torrent what’s something good I can run in havoc using ij on zealot?
loud kiln
Ill run, that's it, just run
tropic notch
If I’m using crusher I’m using crit
tall torrent
<@366562874039992331> what’s something good I can run in havoc using ij on zealo...
Does that rly matter lol
loud kiln
My only character thats really havoc ready is arbites
tropic notch
What about combat axe?
hybrid plover
My only character thats really havoc ready is arbites
Good luck
tropic notch
Will ij push it pass the bp?
loud kiln
I dont have a pub to run havoc though, and i don't have any elitist cosmetics to be picked up
tall torrent
What about combat axe?
No breakpoints + relic blade pulls ahead
If ur gonna run a dps zealot I think relic blade is current top performer even tho it’s nowhere close to power sword
sly orchid
If ur gonna run a dps zealot I think relic blade is current top performer even t...
relic blade is #1 allrounder on zealot
dueling sword for pure damage
loud kiln
Low dif darktide with new characters suck though man, why is my randos half why back in the area 😭
tropic notch
No breakpoints + relic blade pulls ahead
Ij relic blade could be interesting
It’ll help with its dodges
I mean
It’s not even a crit weapon
primal zealot
dodges arent even the biggest issue
loud kiln
Oh, is power sword still good?
hybrid plover
dueling sword for pure damage
Dueling sword on zealot is an overkill machine
tropic notch
tropic notch
Oh, is power sword still good?
It’s vets best weapon
tall torrent
Oh, is power sword still good?
Might as well be best melee in the game
primal zealot
wtf do u do with it when it overheats
tropic notch
wtf do u do with it when it overheats
Cry
primal zealot
yeaj
tropic notch
Cope
sharp hamlet
Seethe?
loud kiln
Bet,i love power swords i was only using dueling cause it was a good poking stick
sly orchid
run overload with the stun
primal zealot
both ?
primal zealot
if by fine u mean garbage
hollow ibex
as long as you're not fighting carapace
tropic notch
Bet,i love power swords i was only using dueling cause it was a good poking stic...
See the build I sent
hybrid plover
if by fine u mean garbage
It's actually not that bad
primal zealot
maybe against a single poxwalker
hybrid plover
Nah it can still horde clear, albeit not as effectively
hybrid plover
Now uncharged power sword
hollow ibex
and made the uncharged mode actually usable
hollow ibex
unlike psword lmfao
primal zealot
and lets be real here in havoc when is there not a crusher all up in ya grill ?
hybrid plover
That's a different story
tall torrent
It's actually not that bad
it's ~chainsword tier
hollow ibex
it's ~chainsword tier
yeah not bad
loud kiln
I wish darktide on consol could have the meat grinder configurable
hybrid plover
One of the reasons I just don't like using power sword is specifically because getting hit while attacking cancels the charge and that will get you outright killed at times because uncharged power sword is actually horrible
tall torrent
Just read enemy atks better
Totally not FatShark’s fault for not fixing bugs thoroughly
loud kiln
One of the reasons I just don't like using power sword is specifically because g...
Spyker has that issue to, using warp attacks when you get hit cancels it, it makes your middle keystone procs really tough
hybrid plover
The one poxwalker knicking me from behind while horde clearing 
hollow ibex
just don't get hit brah
loud kiln
3 stacks on spykers middle keystone is basically mandatory...
hybrid plover
https://tenor.com/view/peaceemote-peace-peaceful-gif-15091939045954194911
You mean the audio that sometimes just doesn't even play properly?
sharp hamlet
The one poxwalker knicking me from behind while horde clearing <:whatthefuck_her...
This, but when I’m about to delete a boss with me charged thammer. Hate it when that happens.
hybrid plover
loud kiln
Backstab audio lives rent free in my head
sharp hamlet
Tox bomber voice lines live rent free in mine. Don’t know why though.
narrow frost
THE HETHANS IN DENIAL
tall torrent
<:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
play enough power sword and u will hallucinate that sound playing every 3s so the fact that it's not actually playing is irrelevant
loud kiln
When nothing is behind me
Nah, is the guy that's barely on your side
faint beacon
That’s probably the reason I don’t enjoy it
hybrid plover
The poor rejects and their schizophrenia 😔
hybrid plover
Nah, is the guy that's barely on your side
No I mean
Literally nothing is by me.
Nothing is shooting me
crimson pebble
THE EMPEROR IS STANDING WITH YOU
narrow frost
audio bug, pretty common with abilites that stun enemies I noticed
hybrid plover
It's a known issue.
narrow frost
ogryn taunts a rager about to attack you
and you keep getting the audio that he is attacking you
narrow frost
makes you wonder what engine and audio changes they could do for Darktide 2 to make it more stable
UNREAL ENGINE 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
loud kiln
ogryn taunts a rager about to attack you
Bro, if i see another demonhost I'm going to-
hybrid plover
makes you wonder what engine and audio changes they could do for Darktide 2 to m...
Darktide 2
narrow frost
there is a very high chance that its DT2 before VT3
just compare the profits
between DT and VT2
loud kiln
40k has always been the more profitable IP
sharp hamlet
Bro, if i see another demonhost I'm going to-
delete it with a thammer?
primal zealot
id be rly down with greentide
loud kiln
delete it with a thammer?
They geniuenly make me mad the way i can't see them until its too late
Idk how others do it
primal zealot
the voices
primal zealot
yes yes of course of course
hybrid plover
The real issue with daemonhosts
loud kiln
they are really easy to notice
They curl up on the floor between the 30 other trash mobs I'm trying to move through
narrow frost
They curl up on the floor between the 30 other trash mobs I'm trying to move thr...
fog and voicelines
they actually drown out other sounds
trim badger
They geniuenly make me mad the way i can't see them until its too late
Another user that will download Danger Zone:
narrow frost
DH audio takes priority
hybrid plover
Are the specialists you won't hear while you're near them
narrow frost
yeah
loud kiln
fog and voicelines
I'll have to pay attention to audio more then. Darktide it's one of the first games i play where audio cues actually matter
faint beacon
The silent trapper net cause the one room that mutes audio cause
narrow frost
yes
faint beacon
Fuck you I guess
hybrid plover
I'll have to pay attention to audio more then. Darktide it's one of the first ga...
Soundwhore
narrow frost
In my opinion, DT is 60/40 audio/visual
hybrid plover
This game rewards you doing so.
narrow frost
I personally play like 80/20
crimson pebble
The silent trapper net cause the one room that mutes audio cause
the one w the stair case that wraps around the square column
loud kiln
the one w the stair case that wraps around the square column
I'm so tired of the twins boss mission
I get it all the time
narrow frost
turn if off
loud kiln
And no one can stay in coherency in them man
narrow frost
you can turn off campaign
sharp hamlet
I get it all the time
Lucky, love running it. Haven’t gotten it since. ☹️
crimson pebble
turn if off
narrow frost
fish?
crimson pebble
le fishe
loud kiln
Lucky, love running it. Haven’t gotten it since. ☹️
If your running with BoT missions on around uprising- heresey, it's 50% of the time you'll get it
crimson pebble
i dont think so hes more in other places then there now and i in other other places
sharp hamlet
If your running with BoT missions on around uprising- heresey, it's 50% of the t...
Neato, thanks for the wisdom good sir.
narrow frost
he is in the GGC and usually with his boyfriend bumner
crimson pebble
bumner is evil
plain osprey
The hell am i looking at?
faint beacon
His boyfriend @stone zealot
narrow frost
faint beacon
Is this true
narrow frost
its so funny
faint beacon
loud kiln
Neato, thanks for the wisdom good sir.
The thing is tough, the mission is fine,its the boss fight. Every time i get there, the squad suddenly can't handle anything
faint beacon
loud kiln
Why are we pinging guy
crimson pebble
he is evil and must repent
sharp hamlet
The thing is tough, the mission is fine,its the boss fight. Every time i get the...
It do be like that sometimes. Do you happen to have the skip bells unlocked?
narrow frost
evil bumner...
stone zealot
bumner is evil
huh what'd i do
crimson pebble
just wait till the news that he goes bald
just like his bf...
loud kiln
It do be like that sometimes. Do you happen to have the skip bells unlocked?
What's skip bells?
sharp hamlet
Ah
sly orchid
What's skip bells?
If you did the hardmode puzzle you can get a bell to skip straight to the twins
sharp hamlet
It’s a secret thing you have to do. There should be tutorials on YT. Lets you skip the walk.
sharp hamlet
If you did the hardmode puzzle you can get a bell to skip straight to the twins
Yeagh
loud kiln
If you did the hardmode puzzle you can get a bell to skip straight to the twins
You can do that?
stone zealot
when bum leaves he leaves
you know what fair enough yeah he pays me monthly for kitten services
sharp hamlet
You can do that?
Yeah
sharp hamlet
If you play with someone who has already done the bell skip thingy, you unlock it automatically.
stone zealot
sly orchid
People in kark n ball are strange...
void dragon
Risking forcing a delay on the next patch, do we have a clue so far what will it be?
crimson pebble
is that dorn currency?
hes mooing now
loud kiln
Yeah
Crazy, i can't do any puzzles though, randos don't do jack for getting them done. The only one I've ever done was that shower room puzzle
sly orchid
Risking forcing a delay on the next patch, do we have a clue so far what will it...
We only know about plasma squad power falchion and a new mortis map
faint beacon
KnB fell off awhile ago
Was never in KnB so I’m simply pure
narrow frost
I left a long time ago
sharp hamlet
Crazy, i can't do any puzzles though, randos don't do jack for getting them don...
Just run the mission on uprising and follow a tutorial my guy, it’s easy.
jolly quail
bolt pistol blessings and perks guys ? puncture + lethal proximity and flak/unyielding + carapace ?
tall torrent
bolt pistol blessings and perks guys ? puncture + lethal proximity and flak/unyi...
unarmored + maniac
sharp hamlet
Crazy, i can't do any puzzles though, randos don't do jack for getting them don...
Then you can run the hard mode on damnation and get the gold accented insignia.
narrow frost
imagine if someone does HM carries
jolly quail
unarmored + maniac
maniac i get but why unarmored compared to unyielding or cara ?
narrow frost
dreg gunners and tox bombers?
tall torrent
maniac i get but why unarmored compared to unyielding or cara ?
dreg gunner (auric) & tox bomber (havoc)
crimson pebble
imagine if someone does HM carries
impossible
jolly quail
oh sure
narrow frost
@loud kiln I can do Hard Mode for you real quick if you want
so you get the bell skips
loud kiln
I'm not home rn lmao
jolly quail
yea its for damnation/auric, havent played havoc yet
narrow frost
let me know when if you do
narrow frost
yea its for damnation/auric, havent played havoc yet
no change in hp between damn/auric
meager echo
How to do orthus offensive now, isnt it random
narrow frost
campaign or mods
jolly quail
no change in hp between damn/auric
alright
meager echo
I still have the penance no bombs pop with it.
crimson pebble
i just realized how grateful i am for doing that one befor they gave us the new shitass menu
meager echo
...
narrow frost
there are penances tied to it
sharp hamlet
I still have the penance no bombs pop with it.
You could theoretically make a new character, run it on uprising, and try to get the penance that way. Or you could just get the mod that lets you run it whenever.
sly orchid
Im mad that the new CM hasnt said a single word yet
narrow frost
Im mad that the new CM hasnt said a single word yet
I feel bad for quickpaw
sharp hamlet
I am still mad that they havent added it back to normal board
So am I. Loved running HM back in the day.
meager echo
Good old time
narrow frost
CM for all 3 tide games
brisk marsh
If you do quickplay, I think there's a chance you could get an Orthus Offensive mission, if the person who chose the mission is going through the campaign
sly orchid
CM for all 3 tide games
Im just gonna speculate that fatshark is searching for a new CM and that quickpaw is a temporary one for dt right now
crimson pebble
If you do quickplay, I think there's a chance you could get an Orthus Offensive ...
u can random queue it yea
sharp hamlet
I ‘member when the rescue door was closed, and if someone dropped you were outta luck basically. Oh those were the halcyon days.
jolly quail
so kraks actually not bad to run with bolt pistol
jolly quail
i just feel like im getting more value out of shredders when i play like plasma gun
but i do enjoy the kraks
narrow frost
if it works for you, go for it
jolly quail
im just trying to figure out a roster of melee+ranged+nade combos for vet lol
and have a few different builds ready
narrow frost
its what you are able to use effectively
jolly quail
well yeah of course
stone zealot
im just trying to figure out a roster of melee+ranged+nade combos for vet lol
doble brel me beloved
narrow frost
I run Taxe, Cshotgun, kraks into havoc 40 and do more damage then purg psykers
the limit is your skill
not the weapons
you got this
faint beacon
Yeah well I run
stone zealot
Yeah well I run
oh yeah? well
jolly quail
doble brel me beloved
double barrel is nice but I like running more long range weapons on vet
faint beacon
oh yeah? well
Oh yeah?
narrow frost
oh?
meager echo
Meanwhile ogryn tap shield 2 times to open it...
crimson pebble
Yeah well I run
the speedrunner in question
meager echo
Peak design
sharp hamlet
lmao
meager echo
jolly quail
the limit is your skill
of course! but its also in the sense of figuring out loadouts that I enjoy playing and feel i can have a solution to most things with while discovering the game more in depth
faint beacon
Our glorious leader has told us you must run shredders or you’re a failure!
jolly quail
and i like a bit of thematic buildmaking
sly orchid
im a massive advocate for kraks getting a kill tag
faint beacon
@stone zealot You fw the nitro background btw
narrow frost
it also helps with DN
jolly quail
on damnation i sometimes dont even get much of a chance to use them though tbh
stone zealot
<@1111676952072437790> You fw the nitro background btw
that's where i work, gerald
jolly quail
only if its a map with crushers/bulwarks packs
when its only one or two it gets melted before the nade goes off
faint beacon
that's where i work, gerald
Nice for the princess to invite us over to the poop store, eh Luigi?
sly orchid
rift slip might be a little strong
casually onecycling an orb
an otherwise doing 120k damage
stone zealot
Nice for the princess to invite us over to the poop store, eh Luigi?
fug i didn't even notice the fucking low res pixelated near fried fucking mario and luigi i'm gonna find local poomonger
hybrid plover
Our glorious leader has told us you must run shredders or you’re a failure!
I love smoking
🚬
faint beacon
fug i didn't even notice the fucking low res pixelated near fried fucking mario ...
It goes so hard
jolly quail
is the light dying right now for anyone else? Oh, its probably just the beast
is it good
the game
i tried 1 and 2 and didnt like them
jolly quail
oh fair enough
it shouldve been more or less in my alley but i didnt like it
the games were lauded for their movement but to me it felt like ass compared to the movement shooters i enjoyed
faint beacon
<@820414945543716944>
How the hell are we gonna know what was changed weapon wise if there even is any lmao
jolly quail
vet having only one unique melee weapon is kinda lame
narrow frost
we only have speculations and some code
jolly quail
exclusive i mean
narrow frost
they havent released any info
hybrid plover
yeah I'll be honest the lack of blogpost actually has me worried about the falchion
narrow frost
minor bit of trolling
jolly quail
yeah ive noticed i get much more updates on vt than dt
narrow frost
Yes
jolly quail
is vet the class that gets like the least love in this game or something?
narrow frost
yes
hybrid plover
is vet the class that gets like the least love in this game or something?
yes
jolly quail
unfortunate
sharp hamlet
is vet the class that gets like the least love in this game or something?
My brother in the God-Emperor, we still don’t have the stubber depicted in the Vet’s left tree art.
Pain.
jolly quail
lol its true
hybrid plover
havent tried the other 3 yet
ah you mean the three busted classes
well there you go
they're busted
jolly quail
lol so i like the two weakest classes?
hybrid plover
lol so i like the two weakest classes?
yes
jolly quail
based tbh
hybrid plover
psyker on a fundamental level is busted but only "balanced" by how squishy they are
jolly quail
well arbitor looks cool but cant say im super eager to play ogryn or psyker
sharp hamlet
the veteran mains in chat asking for a molecule of a crumb of content
There’s dozens of us! Dozens I tell you!
jolly quail
vet and zealot just have the vibes
hollow ibex
psyker on a fundamental level is busted but only "balanced" by how squishy they ...
psyker isn't even truly squishy tbh
hybrid plover
psyker isn't even truly squishy tbh
hence the quotation marks
hollow ibex
lol so i like the two weakest classes?
this is the absolute state of vet
vet def makes top 5
jolly quail
oh well
its still cool
but even compared to my zealot looking at the trees i thought vet's tree was just much worse
hybrid plover
ogryn is busted, arbitrator is busted
sharp hamlet
this is the absolute state of vet
hybrid plover
but even compared to my zealot looking at the trees i thought vet's tree was jus...
zealot's tree is far, far worse
jolly quail
oh for real
hybrid plover
Zealot has The Build ™
sharp hamlet
<:Guarded:972247035128447086>
Me, waking up to yet another day of no volleygun for vet.
hybrid plover
Basically, a good zealot build will always compose of a very, very specific set of talents and it's really only at the bottom where you can actually diversify a little bit.
Resulting in a very stagnant feeling skill tree.
jolly quail
i noticed arbitrator is insane yea but not surprising since new classes tend to powercreep in games like this
jolly quail
Basically, a good zealot build will always compose of a very, very specific set ...
well thats also unfortunate
hybrid plover
basically, if you're not using knives, you're gimping yourself unfortunately
if you don't go middle left to get until death and duelist, gimped
as much as I want vet to get a rework
Zealot needs it more.
faint beacon
Vet and Zealot are both incredibly dated
jolly quail
so whats the zealot build
faint beacon
Ironically enough both of them are about on par with each other
Issue is when it’s any other class
hybrid plover
jolly quail
thats so useful thanks
hybrid plover
now that comment about inexorable being zealot's "best"
that's debatable
but the pathing's got the idea right
jolly quail
so all the non circled/coloured nodes are like mandatory ?
hybrid plover
pretty much
austere mica
More or less
haughty mauve
too bad only book zealots make it to havvoc
hybrid plover
also
faint beacon
I’ll be honest
narrow frost
too bad only book zealots make it to havvoc
what
faint beacon
too bad only book zealots make it to havvoc
Chat pull up the copious FOTF Zealots in 40
hybrid plover
while FOTF is generally zealot's best offensive option, book is good
haughty mauve
unless you're with friends not many will take a non book zealot it is what it is
narrow frost
Host your own
jolly quail
btw is there a post or a google doc or something that details how crits work
its very nebulous
hybrid plover
honestly if I see a zealot running FOTF in havoc, I'm comforted that someone is gonna be doing some crazy boss damage
jolly quail
as are many other stats but i think i got most of the rest lol
this game not having a kind of keyword encyclopedia is crazy ngl
faint beacon
Whipped out the In Progress Vet Guide
narrow frost
ye
jolly quail
why the hell does arbitrator have more innate crit than vet
lmao
surely the sharpshooter type class would have the best crit rate
narrow frost
asthma
tropic notch
too bad only book zealots make it to havvoc
Nah fury over book
tall torrent
why does arbitrator have psyker's crit chance
arb is the "new stuff for vet" that ur supposed to get
austere mica
having the worst stamina delay
Alcoholism and smoking
faint beacon
why does arbitrator have psyker's crit chance
Cause ummm ummm not many Crit talents and umm
Umm
Yeah
haughty mauve
I like fury more too instead of afk simulator chorus it is what it is
hybrid plover
as if they even need it
faint beacon
Even though they have an insane uptime talent
faint beacon
as if they even need it
Only with Taxe
hybrid plover
with the myriad of "15% damage" talents they have for some reason
sly orchid
I wouldnt mind vet having a more crit oriented right side path for its rework
faint beacon
with the myriad of "15% damage" talents they have for some reason
Ignoring the unkillable sienna skeleton they have
hybrid plover
see
this is just a sign
that we need to nerf veteran
they're too strong
they keep powercreeping the game to get to their level
it's unhealthy
jolly quail
so how much damage do crits do? the guide was only about rates
narrow frost
depends on weapon
hybrid plover
so how much damage do crits do? the guide was only about rates
it depends on the weapon
jolly quail
ah interesting
hybrid plover
i.e
jolly quail
and my orange hitmarkers are crits right?
hybrid plover
knife, which has a ridiculously high crit damage compared to other weapons
sly orchid
and my orange hitmarkers are crits right?
Yeah
jolly quail
it varies per weapon with their own crit damage
is this info not available in game??
sly orchid
Fatshark had the wonderful idea
jolly quail
thats crazy bro
sly orchid
Of changing hitmarkers
jolly quail
like just guess
faint beacon
that we need to nerf veteran
Flashbang of my comment on Ainz Solo Arby H40 video
sly orchid
You dont want to know how unfathomably angry it makes me
jolly quail
yeah theres a huge lack of in game info for a game that is stat, hitzone etc heavy
austere mica
is this info not available in game??
It's available
narrow frost
but lies
hybrid plover
yeah theres a huge lack of in game info for a game that is stat, hitzone etc hea...
dude I have nearly 3k hours in the game
austere mica
You just have to do the math yourself
hybrid plover
there are still things I just don't know and don't bother to learn because Fatshark is an enigma I am not equipped to understand unless I become a Tzeentch cultist
jolly quail
You just have to do the math yourself
number crunching to understand the calculations behind a games stats (as opposed to like theory craft buildmaking) shouldnt be necessary lol
austere mica
It's not really number crunching it's just
Look at table
Divide crit damage by normal damsge
Get crit modifier
faint beacon
I love dumping 2.5k hours into a game and still only knowing surface level shit cause nothing is explained ever
hybrid plover
Flashbang of my comment on Ainz Solo Arby H40 video
it got a chuckle out of me
it's also true
jolly quail
It's not really number crunching it's just
yea but i mean i will seek out the info if needed but stuff like crit rate and crit damage per weapon should be visible to players, theres no excuse for that
faint beacon
That comment has like
sly orchid
Few people have true shartide knowledge
sly orchid
Like dark obscure evil shadow tome knowledge
hybrid plover
I'm not sure what deal Kuli made with Tzeentch to get the information that they have
But it is very appreciated
austere mica
Decompiling the game and spelunking for it
tame lodge
hybrid plover
Decompiling the game and spelunking for it
I mean I figure it's decompilation but to actually have it mapped out in the concise format they have it in
tropic notch
umbral scaffold
me
faint beacon
tropic notch
It’s dorn…
steep flower
<@341264830273028099> you should move to a strike party vc and stream
i should've had; we just completed True Survivor for @topaz gulch 
topaz gulch
lovely gents @steep flower @candid harness @uncut terrace, proper great players 🙂
steep flower
my brain hurts
Rest my friend!
hybrid plover
man I'm still tilted from yesterday
midnight wyvern
hybrid plover
That Gloriana run was gonna be a True Survivor
And then the servers said sike
Genuinely one of the most disheartening experiences I have ever had playing this game
hybrid plover
In that case, yes since the game was completely canceled out
midnight wyvern
oh lmfao
hybrid plover
We were at the end objective on the second part
hybrid plover
Everyone played their part so well that game
Mid objective was quick as hell because people knew the timings and I had the smokes to cover
midnight wyvern
hybrid plover
I pushed off like two pogryns at the beginning with my shouts
steep flower
do you fail tru surv if you DC?
no; but if the bot dies its a fail
sharp hamlet
You’ll get it eventually my guy. I ‘member when I had a TS run ruined at the end of the smelter mission since a psyker overloaded lol.
hybrid plover
You’ll get it eventually my guy. I ‘member when I had a TS run ruined at the end...
I mean I know that.
It's just that it's really annoying when it's the game that robs you of it.
sharp hamlet
Pain and suffering builds character and hardens the soul.
sharp hamlet
It's just that it's really annoying when it's the game that robs you of it.
Oh for sure
hybrid plover
Because a hampster on a wheel is running the server
And the hampster is also a paraplegic
sharp hamlet
Because a hampster on a wheel is running the server
Been there too many times.
uncut terrace
lovely gents <@341264830273028099> <@228831622399524864> <@548953476730847244>, ...
SIR YES SIR
midnight wyvern
frank basin
heavy rover
And the hampster is also a paraplegic
Excuse me that hamster is unionized and gets great medical benefits for the family. Put some respect in that hampter
hybrid plover
was not expecting this with this goofy serrated knife build but
:')
team was a bunch of absolute monsters at this game too tbf
plain osprey
Noice
heavy rover
oh no... they're gonna reset our havoc ranks aren't they
trim badger
well yes
it happens every 3 months
Season 4 of havoc, aka around 1 entire year since Havoc has been a thing
turbid ibex
nice
north frost
let's see if I can beat my best rank next season
hybrid plover
well damn the timing was opportune for me to get true survivor today then
steep flower
well damn the timing was opportune for me to get true survivor today then
Maybe in the future i could lend you my services?
hybrid plover
Maybe in the future i could lend you my services? <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302...
oh i got it literally today
like two hours before havoc went offline
steep flower
oh i got it literally today
Ay nice!
hybrid plover
https://i.imgur.com/6yzaZxx.png
basically didn't get touched either save for some corruption damage from a beast of nurgle
loud kiln
Is vetren just the most popular class or something?
This channel is the most active one
hybrid plover
more that it's the channel where people tend to actually talk about
ya know
darktide
hybrid plover
zealot chat is basically general 2
ogryn chat is kinda on the same note as veteran chat
arbites too but also conversation about how busted it and ogryn are
hollow ibex
yeah zealot chat's basically just always off topic, prob got bored of talking about zealot a few months after the talent tree update came out and they still only had one build
ogryn chat i have blocked because i just don't play or care about ogryn
hybrid plover
i dont even talk in psyker chat cuz if you even dare to try and bring up something even slightly offmeta, people will scream about misinformation
loud kiln
arbites too but also conversation about how busted it and ogryn are
Acceptable terms
heavy rover
meanwhile in vet chat even the most shitpost build can be somewhat viable
hybrid plover
like apologies that i tried blazing spirit on a force sword in havoc and think it's actually not that bad
obvs not the best
but it works
loud kiln
meanwhile in vet chat even the most shitpost build can be somewhat viable <:KEKW...
Lasmqxxing
heavy rover
all I'm gonna say is, at one point I ran serrated edge with shovel. It wasn't any new game-changing meta but my god was it hilarious
hybrid plover
all I'm gonna say is, at one point I ran serrated edge with shovel. It wasn't an...
i ran mercy killer serrated on that run i got the true survivor on lmao
it is honestly pretty damn good
heavy rover
incredible
hybrid plover
it also does fare pretty well on shovel
since uncanny
and decimator stacks do also increase DoT damage
hollow ibex
all I'm gonna say is, at one point I ran serrated edge with shovel. It wasn't an...
i tried bleed shovel before, did not work well lol
loud kiln
Shovel
heavy rover
and decimator stacks do also increase DoT damage
wait it does? you have my attention
hybrid plover
wait it does? you have my attention
yes
hybrid plover
decimator increases strength and strength damage boosts apply to DoTs.
loud kiln
Shovel is awesome
hybrid plover
that or all or nothing
heavy rover
helbore? it's peak
loud kiln
I love memes
hybrid plover
i don't recommend this build
say less
heavy rover
the DNA of the soul
heavy rover
deadshot on recon las? you madlad
hybrid plover
and no shock troop
heavy rover
but yes I agree, I see the vision, and I ain't even mad at that point
oh wait yeah no shock troop
now that's heresy
loud kiln
Crazy? I was crazy once
heavy rover
they locked me in a room
loud kiln
A rubber room
heavy rover
a rubber room with rats
hybrid plover
if you took off bring it down and the toughness node
and then got shock troop and the delay node
loud kiln
The rats made me crazy
hybrid plover
i actually think this might not be half bad
loud kiln
if you took off bring it down and the toughness node
One thing i love about darktide is little reference to the tabletop
Bring it down being a secondary mission cars for those who don't know
hybrid plover
i mean tbf it is a game based on the tabletop so it'd be kind of criminal if they didn't put references
fading yarrow
Pardon me frens
loud kiln
i mean tbf it is a game based on the tabletop so it'd be kind of criminal if the...
Technically 40k comes from the black library
fading yarrow
Is it just me or are the Boltgun and PSword made of foam now?
hollow ibex
deadshot on recon las? you madlad
that's the point
to burn through stamina as quickly as possible
so you can use AON on shovel more efficiently
hybrid plover
Is it just me or are the Boltgun and PSword made of foam now?
wat
fading yarrow
Just tried to play an Auric Damnation run and I was doing absolutely nothin'
hollow ibex
did you remember to load your bolter and charge your ps?
loud kiln
Did you empower? Give it the right stuff?
fading yarrow
500 in both, PS is Mk VI with 80 in all and 61 in Mobility, Carapace, Unyielding, Brutal Momentum and Power Cycler, Boltgun is also Carapace and Unyielding with Cavalcade and Pinning Fire
Maybe I just got too used to two-shotting everything as Arbites
mortal aspen
you need to press the special
fading yarrow
I was doing that lol
loud kiln
You also need to say the machine spirit prayers
hollow ibex
I was even doing the push-stab into slash stuff
that should still 2-shot crushers
junior grail
Imagine if Arbites got hold of Vets Psword
loud kiln
I won't imagine
hollow ibex
Imagine if Arbites got hold of Vets Psword
then vet would truly be obsolete lol
fading yarrow
that should still 2-shot crushers
Tbf it did. Felt like hitting rocks on everything else though, especially Ragers
void dragon
then vet would truly be obsolete lol
the only thing it would have is piss toughness and smoke nades
fading yarrow
Don't forget frag grenade spam
hollow ibex
Tbf it did. Felt like hitting rocks on everything else though, especially Ragers
could try running with sunder i guess
void dragon
Arby nades can perform just as well, and they are up to 5
hollow ibex
but psword hasn't changed
it's still one of the strongest melees in the game
and bolter is still really good
loud kiln
Spearhead bolter better ngl, wish vet had it
For a gun focused class, it lacks the mother of boss damage
hollow ibex
Spearhead bolter better ngl, wish vet had it
wdym... vet has it lol
loud kiln
He does?
hollow ibex
yeah
void dragon
Vet has Bolter, watchamean?
junior grail
What's the best 2nd blessing on Psword? PCycler and Bromentum?
hollow ibex
What's the best 2nd blessing on Psword? PCycler and Bromentum?
it's always pcycler + your choice of sunder or brumentum
loud kiln
I thought spearhead bolter was a different bolter
void dragon
What's the best 2nd blessing on Psword? PCycler and Bromentum?
i think sunder could serve in place of Bromentum, but idk what is the advantage of one over the other
hollow ibex
I thought spearhead bolter was a different bolter
there's only one bolter in the game 😭
spearheader
and vet does have it
loud kiln
There's the bolt pistok
void dragon
Heavy bolter, soon on your local ogryn -Sincerely a delucional ogryn
junior grail
Wish there's Bolter variants, a lighter and heavier version
void dragon
Wish there's Bolter variants, a lighter and heavier version
tecnically speakin, the lighter bolter is what we humans use, the real deal would destroy us
hollow ibex
give it to us anyway!
junior grail
tecnically speakin, the lighter bolter is what we humans use, the real deal woul...
Bring it, let the Bolter hurt us with every shot but kills Plogryns in less than a clip
loud kiln
Ogryns lack of guns hurts, but no shortage of melee
void dragon
Ogryns lack of guns hurts, but no shortage of melee
what weapons we need for ogryn? i feel we have covered most fields once Twinstubbers get an ammo boost
loud kiln
tecnically speakin, the lighter bolter is what we humans use, the real deal woul...
It takes heavy training to use an actual bolter for any guardsmen. And sometimes augmentation