The other 2 force swords? Nah
#veteran-class
tall torrent
turbid ibex
i feel like they could have slightly better mobility/stamina amount
steep flower
Perfect for ‚bloodthirsty’ chain criting but does not cleave dmg on cara which is oof; still - discount PS
naive needle
How does 33% reduced ammo when not fired for a few seconds work? Is it just your next shot or does it last a certain amount of time
steep flower
i feel like they could have slightly better mobility/stamina amount
Its not the mobility; its the stamina they have…
Which is…
2
💀
tall torrent
How does 33% reduced ammo when not fired for a few seconds work? Is it just your...
Every 4s (at tier IV) your next ranged attack consumes only 1 ammo
It’s a remarkably bad blessing
naive needle
Yeah if its 1 shot it sounds kinda bad
It says 33% reduced, so that would be 2 instead of 3 wouldn't it?
If it was like a few seconds worth of shots or something then it might be more interesting
tall torrent
Its not the mobility; its the stamina they have…
Which is…
**2**
Low stamina for them is ok, make psyker spec stamina for KD
Psyker is inherently better at stamina than most other classes
turbid ibex
KD?
tall torrent
Kinetic deflection
turbid ibex
oh
steep flower
Psyker is inherently better at stamina than most other classes
The best really; arby has the same
tall torrent
Peril gen for blocking instead of stamina drain
Psyker also has lowest stam regen delay at 0.5s, same as arb
So having low base stamina is rly no big deal
tall torrent
It says 33% reduced, so that would be 2 instead of 3 wouldn't it?
No, it just changes the ammo cost to 1, regardless of variant
turbid ibex
idk only having 1 base stamina felt awful when i was playing psyker
narrow frost
How so?
turbid ibex
mostly because of running i think
turbid ibex
im still getting used to it
tall torrent
Psyker’s stamina management is on easy mode
Veteran’s stamina management is on hard mode
narrow frost
No thoughts just infinite stam
Psyker so dumb
I remember when I was just running plus 9 stam cause I was bored
Made auric funny
turbid ibex
Veteran’s stamina management is on hard mode
ye vet's stamina management is way worse than psyker's
doesnt help that his starting weapon has almost identical mobility stats to the bolter
including only having +2 stamina
ngl i feel like there should be more variation in weapon mobility
severe jolt
deflector on force sword
kinetic deflection
stam curio
oh you thought I was playing the wizard class? don't worry, it's still gonna take 3 business days for you to smash through my blocks...
turbid ibex
every gun ive used so far feels like it falls into one of two categories in terms of mobility
narrow frost
But this isn't a good game like VT
naive needle
Every weapon I have enjoyed using so far falls into 1 category: shovel
narrow frost
So that's out of the window
sly orchid
But this isn't a good game like VT
turbid ibex
every gun ive used so far feels like it falls into one of two categories in term...
its either laspistol or bolter
narrow frost
https://tenor.com/view/beavis-and-butthead-call-of-duty-slap-kick-cornholio-gif-...
Darktide players have it easy
So many ways to cheese encounters
naive needle
48BC: The infantry man must dig with a shovel
1916: The infantry man must dig with a shovel
2025: The infantry man must dig with a shovel
40000: The infantry man must dig with a shovel
narrow frost
Yeah VT has problems but not as vast and plentiful like dt
turbid ibex
There should be less mobility in weapons
some weapons should have more, some weapons should have less
sly orchid
Yeah VT has problems but not as vast and plentiful like dt
im gonna be honest ainz
turbid ibex
but mostly just add more categories to mobility than "laspistol" and "bolter"
sly orchid
your one of the best players so judging it wouldnt compare to the experience of the average player
narrow frost
It's the general consensus
VT is the more difficult game
Not to mention modded difficulty
Yeah havoc can come to cata level
severe jolt
forget the modshit
2Xtwitch is already plenty hard
tall torrent
There should be less mobility in weapons
The top move speed weapons should have less move speed bonus
narrow frost
But then cata deeds/twitch/modded all blow havoc 40 out of the water
steep flower
VT is the more difficult game
I had the opposite experience majority of the time (i wish crushers were more active; CW were peak)
sly orchid
VT is the more difficult game
for sure
raw needle
darktide needs fortunes of war
narrow frost
DT encounters have too many solutions compared to VT (most don't take skill)
That's the main problem
severe jolt
CW were some of the best enemies in any game
they actually have custom insults for every character
and they always do their stupid one-liner before trying to hit you with an overhead
raw needle
cant even hear crushers...........
narrow frost
They play sound affects when they see you
steep flower
darktide needs fortunes of war
Chaos wastes more so; mortis trials are like a prototype for that
Abandoned gamemode tho 
narrow frost
Super armour is way more thought out then carapace
meager echo
the assassin in vt is so hard to push
raw needle
Chaos wastes more so; mortis trials are like a prototype for that
Abandoned game...
they specifically stated that mortis isnt a replacement for cw so keep your fingers crossed
narrow frost
Then DT
raw needle
trapper is a scarier packmaster tho
lowk
they're at least on somewhat equal grounds
one has monstrocity armor, the other you need to go out of your way and interact with if you get netted
narrow frost
I agree a bit there
meager echo
vt is amazing, but the player base is too small
severe jolt
I don't even recall when I last got pounced by an assassin
and there's an event going on right now where they spawn like 6 of them at once
narrow frost
Trapper is the only difference though
meager echo
its hard to find a room in my region
raw needle
and you insta die there on any class
narrow frost
And leech semi comes close to her
narrow frost
IB
raw needle
at least here everyone is equal before the trapper
narrow frost
Is the only class that can undisable himself
narrow frost
its hard to find a room in my region
Yeah it's a bit hard but finding one of the communities in your region helps
raw needle
but yeah i agree that verm is overall harder and the ceiling is a lot higher in vanilla
considering you can do deeds on any map w/ max twitch
narrow frost
No sprinting, no gold toughness, no DS, scarier specials, harder armour are the main points
And shields
raw needle
darktide barely has any mods that can let you increase difficulty
and even then you're locked to solo
turbid ibex
my friend play engineer
raw needle
though something like bw or ib is a lot stronger than any build in dt can reach IMO
steep flower
And leech semi comes close to her
Leech is laughably easy; easiest special to deal with
raw needle
at least i can hear the specials in vermintide
sly orchid
DID SOMEONE CALL FOR A BOOM
narrow frost
Leech is laughably easy; easiest special to deal with
Very easy to underestimate
But yes
His cue is predictable
meager echo
i hate the hook rat tho
narrow frost
Just dodge 1 seconds after you hear him teleport
raw needle
hook rat is funny
narrow frost
I noticed a trend
raw needle
i loved playing him and assassin in versus
narrow frost
Newer players hate hookrat more, but more experienced hate blightstormer more
Like DT where newer people hate trapper while more hate flamer
steep flower
Meanwhile assasin is the embodiment of dogshit in v2 while in dt dog is a joke most of the time
meager echo
is blightstormer the tornado one, or the one that suck u
tame lodge
Tornado
narrow frost
Tornado
meager echo
oh
tame lodge
Maelstrom maelstrom 🗣️
narrow frost
He can disable any team comp and depending on location can destroy your position
In any difficulty
Cause he is coded to teleport as far as possible after casting
raw needle
blightstormer on enchanter's lair is a whole different level of bullshit
oops out of bounds after every cast
steep flower
blightstormer on enchanter's lair is a whole different level of bullshit
Enchanters lair is bs to begin with
narrow frost
Really only way stalker with ult and lingering flames can follow a stormer
severe jolt
you gotta be a bit more understanding
after a hard day of casting "fuck your entire team" a blightstormer needs to take a vacation at his summer home in Miami
raw needle
Enchanters lair is bs to begin with
i love the map but blightstormers are extra annoying there
steep flower
you gotta be a bit more understanding
after a hard day of casting "fuck your ent...
More like in Kensington
Where all the needle bois reside
sly orchid
blightstormer is a fucking asshole
turbid ibex
i do hope we can get some new specials for dt at some point in the future
turbid ibex
we only have like what, 9 specialists total?
hollow ibex
i do hope we can get some new specials for dt at some point in the future
lol the last special added was the tox bomber
So I think I’m good
sly orchid
stormvermin
raw needle
just double pushhhhhh
sly orchid
enemies that are 100 times better than bulwarks
raw needle
real
meager echo
some weapon cannot open them
meager echo
i remember the map
mortal aspen
some weapon cannot open them
everything can open them
raw needle
they're only a problem if there's a lot of them
meager echo
where you meet bardin daughter
raw needle
yeahhhhhhhh
meager echo
there are packs of them
turbid ibex
and 2 of those specials are pretty much just another existing specialist with not much difference
raw needle
that was not fun lmao i remember that
raw needle
i remember just swapping to warrior priest there when i failed for the first time lol
w/ flail
sly orchid
i cant do a damn thing against a bullwark shield
against stormverming i can overhead or poke it in the head to kill it
raw needle
even if you do
tame lodge
where you meet bardin daughter
One of the Khara-something map
raw needle
a teammate will make sure it goes back to the neutral position
mortal aspen
against stormverming i can overhead or poke it in the head to kill it
what
raw needle
with a tick of dmg
mortal aspen
that's not how it works
you can stagger the bulwark and make them drop the shield and you can just attack around it
they open themselves up when attacking
faint beacon
Reminder
mortal aspen
Shield Stormvermin you cannot attack when their shield is up unless you backstab
or have a flail
hollow ibex
Bulwarks are fine until there’s five of them at once and they’re a fucking shield wall
faint beacon
Bulwarks will bash regardless what hits them
mortal aspen
some guns penetrate them too
faint beacon
Friend or foe
raw needle
shield rat you can at least open
hollow ibex
Bulwarks will bash regardless what hits them
And the bash is bullshit
faint beacon
If they get shot by a gunner behind them they can retaliate bash
raw needle
bulwark? bulwark makes you play by its rules lmao
mortal aspen
shield rat you can at least open
you can open bulwarks too
sly orchid
Bulwarks will bash regardless what hits them
when you try to fight a horde but your cleave hits the bullwark and resets its shield
raw needle
it will bash you 10 times in a row if it wants to
sly orchid
(this is a cancerous mechanic)
raw needle
dt
sly orchid
darktide
mortal aspen
yeah, so you can
faint beacon
Rotshields are peak
raw needle
vt2 rotshields are good cause you can actually open them
faint beacon
They actually have counterplay
tame lodge
Rotshields are peak
Peak boring
mortal aspen
a bunch of things can open dt bulwarks
faint beacon
Bulwarks
tame lodge
🛌
faint beacon
Hate them
hollow ibex
The mere existence of bulwarks gives kraks some purpose at least
meager echo
but rot shield has a hole so you can poke them or shoot them unlike bulkwark
sly orchid
Rotshields are peak
also the glaring weakspot that is its stomach
faint beacon
Coughs and dies when they get hit there
mortal aspen
am i crazy or what game are y'all playing
turbid ibex
we only have like what, 9 specialists total?
3 disablers (trapper, dog, mutant), 4* with area denial (flamers and bombers), bursters, and uhhh snipers
sly orchid
but rot shield has a hole so you can poke them or shoot them unlike bulkwark
if bullwarks had their shields cut in half they would be good
mortal aspen
bulwarks in dt are easily openable by stagger
sly orchid
so you can actualy hit their heads as counterplay
mortal aspen
and they can just be hit in their exposed parts
vt2 bulwarks you can't even stagger period
nothing does
absolutely nothing
faint beacon
The exposed limbs have carapace
raw needle
vt2 bulwarks you can't even stagger *period*
they literally accumulate stagger and open up
faint beacon
It’s extremely difficult to hit their legs cause it’s an incredibly small opening
raw needle
that's like their whole gig
mortal aspen
they literally accumulate stagger and open up
you can only open them up by doing damage
stagger does NOTHING
absolutely zero
severe jolt
even the FK charge won't open them up
it's bullshit, is what it is
sly orchid
It’s extremely difficult to hit their legs cause it’s an incredibly small openin...
you can shoot bullwark arms but even then its fucked
mortal aspen
yeah and in dt arby charge sends them flying
as does ogryn charge
and 100 other things xdd
faint beacon
you can shoot bullwark arms but even then its fucked
Carapace arms
That and it can allow them to retaliate bash
Walking on eggshells
severe jolt
conflagration staff in DT will send entire packs of enemies on their asses
tame lodge
they literally accumulate stagger and open up
🛌
sly orchid
i meant the arm with the club
faint beacon
That’s what it feels like
mortal aspen
individual bulwarks in dt are very well designed enemies imo
they're just spammed too much
sly orchid
(they arent)
faint beacon
i meant the arm with the club
It also has carapace
sly orchid
It also has carapace
what if i killed you with my tail
faint beacon
You don’t have one
faint beacon
I do you bum
faint beacon
Eat 100 damage + corruption
mortal aspen
omg it's john dragonballs?
sly orchid
its a coinflip on if its a bash or opening
faint beacon
True should’ve just played Arby
faint beacon
That’s not even a skill issue when the game tells you to kick rocks lmao
raw needle
rotshield and you're not running shield ignoring weps? no problem just deal enough damage it will open up
sly orchid
True should’ve just played Arby
inb4 btl no longer knocks over ogryns
meager echo
i hate the map that force one of the team member to carry the torch
faint beacon
inb4 btl no longer knocks over ogryns
They’d never do that
mortal aspen
Grail Knight can oneshot Bulwarks through shield
faint beacon
You know damn well they wouldn’t
sly orchid
You know damn well they wouldn’t
if fatshark wants to nerf arbites i wouldnt put it past em
narrow frost
Rot shield are more engaging in the sense that everything can open them and they are not spammed almost treated like a special. Plus they can be actual threats unlike DT bulwark that just blocks and blocks and blocks by getting stagger reset by the shotgunners behind him. One of the main problems with bulwarks is that their ambiance spawn seed is often linked to spawn with a shotgunner
Which will reset his stagger every time he it shot
sly orchid
the shield stagger is so annoying
narrow frost
And in havoc attack speed increase good luck getting past that bulwark without aoe stun
mortal aspen
lmao
narrow widget
And in havoc attack speed increase good luck getting past that bulwark without a...
me when I simply ignore him
hollow ibex
The heretics have learned about combined arms!
narrow widget
he doesn't exist if I don't think he does
narrow frost
Bulwarks insta reset their animations when hit by a shotgunnee
You should see it
It's why I've always had #1 bulwark hater in my bio for years
sly orchid
he doesn't exist if I don't think he does <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
and then you get bashed from behind putting you in the guardbroken stance
tame lodge
if fatshark wants to nerf arbites i wouldnt put it past em
Watch as Fatshark nerfs the impact nodes and nothing changes because Arby's have 15 thousand of them
severe jolt
It doesn't even matter if you pull a patrol in DT- you're gonna be dealing with lots of armored enemies anyway. But in vermintide you really need to think twice about triggering a chaos warrior patrol.
narrow frost
Worst designed enemy on top of a terrible stagger system
tame lodge
🛌
sly orchid
and then a crusher conveniently kills you
narrow widget
and then you get bashed from behind putting you in the guardbroken stance
shut up you don't exist
raw needle
sometimes i remember that patrols exist in darktide
narrow frost
Bulwark bash also just removes 100% of your stam
meager echo
It doesn't even matter if you pull a patrol in DT- you're gonna be dealing with ...
my engineer friend always shoot the cannon into them
narrow frost
sometimes i remember that patrols exist in darktide
Did you know they make noise?
I found that out like 3 months ago
raw needle
yeah
narrow frost
I have a clip somewhere
sly orchid
fatshark when they nerf bulwarks
raw needle
gunner patrols are funny, they march in a line and point their hands in random directions
narrow widget
why does this guy still exist
sly orchid
Bulwark bash also just removes 100% of your stam
thats why i said guardbroken stance
faint beacon
Friendly fire will reset bulwark stagger
Don’t forget the awesome thing known as gunners shooting them in the back allowing them to retaliate bash
raw needle
i had a clip where one came out of a pipe on mid event on that assassination map
with hacking mingame
faint beacon
That shit Is miserable
narrow frost
i had a clip where one came out of a pipe on mid event on that assassination map
Chasm station
Gake
will fix Bulwark bugs eventually
narrow frost
Play more VT gake
sly orchid
gake
tame lodge
why does this guy still exist
Something about Instagram and gifs
Idk
severe jolt
my engineer friend always shoot the cannon into them
Yeah I suppose that works. But then, that would work in any situation. You know Mission of Mercy? The 1st dwarf hold level? That mid-level event spawns stormvermin by the literal dozens. If you're not packing something that can kill em quick you are royally screwed. I once spent a full 10 minutes clearing them out as Warrior Priest and last man standing because the hammers are really not good against shield stormvermin.
raw needle
idk reds are fine and breakpoints are just a boogeyman that exists to scare tide players
mortal aspen
at least we dont have to grind red weapon in dt
yes, you just have to grind mastery, gamble at armory for perfect stats, then grind resources to upgrade
repeat for every weapon
raw needle
you can always get away with yellows on 300 power
faint beacon
Play more VT gake
True I’ve been so bored I’ve started playing old COD Zombies and Roblox
narrow widget
at least we dont have to grind red weapon in dt
I don't have friends to do the deed glitch with so I have to just spam screaming bell 😭 😭 😭 😭
mortal aspen
reds and near perfect yellows are much easier to get in vt2 than perfect\near perfect weps in dt
meager echo
Yeah I suppose that works. But then, that would work in any situation. You know ...
we die everytime sir
mortal aspen
also - shared trinkets
faint beacon
Oh I totally forgot to mention and Ainz can back up on this
raw needle
idk about easier
faint beacon
God help you
narrow widget
reds and near perfect yellows are much easier to get in vt2 than perfect\near pe...
I have a perfect yellow 
faint beacon
If you get a Final Tolls Bulwark
sly orchid
True I’ve been so bored I’ve started playing old COD Zombies and Roblox
i should shoot you with bounty hunter
turbid ibex
getting a perfect weapon on darktide is just getting the right stat rolls
narrow widget
like about 240k gold spent
nah it's more like 50k or smth
raw needle
tho in vermintide you can just dust shit and craft your needed red
but then you start rolling
raw needle
nah it's more like 50k or smth
oh i meant from mastery 1
narrow widget
oh
turbid ibex
everything else you can choose yourself
mortal aspen
such a waste of time\cash
raw needle
mastery is fun in theory but fails short in practice
cause 90% of blessings are dogshit
mortal aspen
it's that you literally can't get a 500 weapon without 19(?) mastery
narrow frost
True I’ve been so bored I’ve started playing old COD Zombies and Roblox
I'm only playing poe and DRG rn
severe jolt
I don't even remember the last time I had to worry about loot in VT2
I have every red weapon including DLC ones, about 150 emperor's vaults, 100 bright dust and 300 commendation chests
raw needle
and it got added when basically everyone who plays this game had already upgraded every loadout on every class they cared about
narrow frost
Wanna get back into vt
narrow frost
idk reds are fine and breakpoints are just a boogeyman that exists to scare tide...
Depending on who you talk to
And what game
sly orchid
and it got added when basically everyone who plays this game had already upgrade...
within an hour everyone competent had godrolls
narrow frost
VT BP are more valueable
turbid ibex
it's that you literally can't get a 500 weapon without 19(?) mastery
you can from melk
narrow frost
Like stagger and ranged 1 tap
raw needle
Like stagger and ranged 1 tap
it stops being relevant unless its a difference between 1/2 taps cause that's a whopping 100% increase and can be detrimental
mortal aspen
some melee breakpoints exist, sure, but they're easy to get because you just get them with guaranteed stats (power and talents)
mortal aspen
you pretty much never roll +% damage on a melee weapon
raw needle
oh i totally forgot about blessing meta in verm
narrow frost
Unless you roll skaven on shield to stagger lock monks
raw needle
forgot what they're called even
mortal aspen
yeah, but that's stagger
sly orchid
blessing meta in vermintide 2
narrow frost
Swift slayer for all but shield
raw needle
crit damage carried over too
sly orchid
attack speed on crit and damage vs preffered faction
narrow frost
Opportunist for shield
raw needle
a whopping 10% with the same calculation
tame lodge
fuck them monkes
Rat shriek.mp3
narrow widget
Swift slayer for all but shield
if they want to buff vet they should just give him swift slaying and delete every other blessing
polar bay
How many questions do I have about a veteran who breaks my brain with men! ! !
narrow frost
3
polar bay
Why, for example, do a bolt pistol and a double-barreled shotgun not have 2 skins? red and dark blue!?
narrow frost
They are "new" weapons
And don't have the free skin from the coin shop
Unlike the older weapons
turbid ibex
the docket skins are just for day 1 weapons iirc
faint beacon
You ever think they’ll touch up that area
polar bay
Hm...
faint beacon
Cause I doubt it
narrow frost
They forgor
sly orchid
Attack speed is…. Meta????
le bomb... le kills people...
raw needle
maybe
mortal aspen
narrow frost
And a new boss
sly orchid
rune drill next year
narrow widget
damn what is fart shart doing with darktide then smh
narrow frost
Nothing
narrow widget
when is my vet nerf coming
raw needle
they promised a vet weapon this year
narrow frost
December 30th
raw needle
you'll get a patch on new years then they'll have their holiday until uhh
narrow frost
"this year"
raw needle
untilllllll
polar bay
Well, it's a new weapon, but a power sword? What is the difference between model 3 and model 6? The characteristics are the same!
raw needle
spring?
narrow frost
Well, it's a new weapon, but a power sword? What is the difference between model...
Attack pattern
narrow widget
Well, it's a new weapon, but a power sword? What is the difference between model...
6 is better
faint beacon
"this year"
No worries Vet youll get a weapon this year!
narrow widget
narrow frost
Marks change attack pattern and sometimes the special action button
faint beacon
Dec 2024
sly orchid
maybe well get powerfist and a polearm
faint beacon
It’s now Sept 2025
sly orchid
playtesters and kitefin have been really quiet
narrow frost
Imagine DT did a roadmap
raw needle
they gave arby db so i cant joke about vet getting a db mark that shoots vertically
fuck
narrow frost
Only to fail the 1st deadline
narrow widget
he just needs another shovel mark
polar bay
Aaa...Other attacks, I just don't notice it in combat
turbid ibex
they gave arby db so i cant joke about vet getting a db mark that shoots vertica...
a over/under db that fires slugs would be cool
sly orchid
does triple barrel work with the aimed fire?
turbid ibex
only fires 2
sly orchid
a over/under db that fires slugs would be cool
OLYMPIA GANG
narrow frost
Alt fire shoots 2
sly orchid
real gamers over here
raw needle
reminds me of s4 open beta double barrel on scout
you could rmb cancel the aim to spend 1 bullet but deal the damage of 2
raw needle
but they patched it........
tame lodge
what the fuck is that fov
Quake
faint beacon
https://youtube.com/shorts/mqWSjT4Hhmo?si=uv1a0p16q8AvNu1H
Guess who actually came back and was overpowered as fuck in BO6
Lmao
polar bay
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/626977827467821059/1117110512363241502/De...
Damn the xenos
tame lodge
Quad Barrel scout
raw needle
Are you swapping shotgun to animation cancel?
you cancel the second shot being fired
well
"fired" more like taken from you
it used to do 1 blast wave and two shots basically
per trigger pull
and the overclock gave you a massive boost to shockwave dmg
so you'd cancel the second shot to get the most total dmg
on release the oc halves your mag and actually works as intended
stat wise
plain osprey
Hello fellow tin soldiers.
I am online in an hour or so. Anyone wanna kill heretics with me then
crimson pebble
unreal forge
playtesters and kitefin have been really quiet
have they ever not been quiet
spice shard
the days the playtesters arent quiet is when we know FS has really shat the bed
unreal forge
they were quite talkative during arbites release
unreal forge
they promised a vet weapon this year
I pointed this out a month ago and everyone shit on me for it
but "this year" definitely means December 31st at 11:59 PM, or a delay
spice shard
they were quite talkative during arbites release
and arbites is strong as shit while leaving 2 classes who need buffs (imo) alone
turbid ibex
and arbites is strong as shit while leaving 2 classes who need buffs (imo) alone
Apparently the playtest version of arbites was actually kind of underpowered
tame lodge
Peak Fatshark right there
atomic void
Apparently the playtest version of arbites was actually kind of underpowered
nah the palytesters had vids out with the builds we currently have
maybe it was too weak and buffed it but they played what we have rn
hybrid plover
nah the palytesters had vids out with the builds we currently have
I recall Cole specifically mentioning that the arbites was actually at one point in development in an underpowered state
And particularly that there was like, no boss damage at all
atomic void
i remember that too but im just saying they did play the version we got rn
i also remember them saying they helped greatly with design ideas and the class is "By the players for the players"
but seems like fatfish just turbo buffed everything anyway
tame lodge
i also remember them saying they helped greatly with design ideas and the class ...
I'm definitely not the target audience
turbid ibex
I recall Cole specifically mentioning that the arbites was actually at one point...
Ye more or less that
Just didnt remember the exact details
tall torrent
And particularly that there was like, no boss damage at all
Very likely cuz stagger melees don’t generally do well vs bosses in this game
And then they said fuck it 50% monster damage
And gave arb concussive
hollow ibex
And particularly that there was like, no boss damage at all
And now it can get 50 percent bonus boss damage 💀
hollow ibex
And gave arb concussive
I think we can blame Cole for this one
atomic void
Very likely cuz stagger melees don’t generally do well vs bosses in this game
yooo lets design a stagger class
oh wait our stagger based weapons arent boss killers
hmmmmm
every hit counts as staggerd and billion bonuses apply
unreal forge
I think Concussive is kinda genius. Gives room for weapons that don't have stagger to take advantage of the class's gimmick, which so far are only Chainsword and somewhat Tac Axe xd
atomic void
gives room for all weapons dude
unreal forge
or at least Tac Axe has those special attacks with a lot of stagger that are very spammable I guess
unreal forge
yeah no poo
atomic void
its good on paper but just like every "play the game" perk it requires 0 effort
unreal forge
every talent is play the game on every class except the bad talents no one uses
tall torrent
I think Concussive is kinda genius. Gives room for weapons that don't have stagg...
Concussive is made for the stagger weapons in mind for bosses
There’re only 2 talents on arb tree that specifically want enemies to be staggered to benefit
unreal forge
true
and the aura I guess
+15% rending and +15% staggered melee damage (I almost never take either of these)
tall torrent
Whereas blessings dependent on stagger are more damage bonus than those 2 combined
turbid ibex
Concussive is made for the stagger weapons in mind for bosses
There’re only 2 ta...
Just 2?
unreal forge
and then there's uhm execution and skullcrusher
turbid ibex
What about stuff like force of will
unreal forge
oh yeah true that one too
tall torrent
Ok 3
turbid ibex
Hold the line
tall torrent
Lowkey that one does not matter
The ones that mainly matter are the 2 damage bonus talents and FoW
3 arb melee weapons don’t care about stagger as much and of those 3, 2 of them already hit pretty good stagger breakpoints
turbid ibex
Forceful
tall torrent
Concussive does nothing if ur attack already staggers
There’s 1 arb melee that doesn’t hit good stagger breakpoints and it’s chainsword
turbid ibex
Concussive does nothing if ur attack already staggers
Forceful gains stacks on stagger hit
sudden cedar
A question for you Veterans here.. will a Grenade count for anything done with a ranged weapon or is a Grenade something different entirely?
tame lodge
Concussive does nothing if ur attack already staggers
So like
Majority of them
tall torrent
A question for you Veterans here.. will a Grenade count for anything done with a...
Which specific thing are u talking about
tall torrent
So like
Majority of them
It’s rly just for boss damage with stagger oriented melee weapons
sudden cedar
Toughness replenishment on ranged kills.
tall torrent
Toughness replenishment on ranged kills.
Exhilarating takedown?
sudden cedar
actually its The Voice of Terra in the Zealot Tree
but the concept, from the outside, is the same.
tall torrent
That one requires ranged attack kill
tame lodge
It’s rly just for boss damage with stagger oriented melee weapons
So basically if I don't plan on using bolter + dog for bosses
tall torrent
Explosion and DOT are not ranged attacks
sudden cedar
What about the fire grenade effect on the ground?
tall torrent
DOT is not ranged attack
sudden cedar
As far as i understand the grenade that is not a DOT on the enemy tho.
tame lodge
What about the fire grenade effect on the ground?
Immolation is not a dot
tall torrent
As far as i understand the grenade that is not a DOT on the enemy tho.
If you’re referring to the fire effect on the ground which applies burn stacks, that is DOT
tame lodge
But it does benefit from Anoint
sudden cedar
🤔
tall torrent
Anoint in blood is Ndmg not Rdmg
tame lodge
Ndmg would be?
Normal Damage?
I have your notations saved somewhere but I didn't memorize those
sudden cedar
That is interesting too tho.. would that mean Anoint in Blood would increase the burn on the Immolation Grenade the closer i am to the target?
tall torrent
In code it’s called damage_near
tame lodge
I see I see
tall torrent
That is interesting too tho.. would that mean Anoint in Blood would increase the...
Yes because Ndmg is global unless specified to be for a specific attack
Rdmg is strictly for ranged attacks
sudden cedar
I can confirm, this is funny.
The idea that the fire SOMEHOW deals less damage when iam not close to it.
unreal forge
Concussive does nothing if ur attack already staggers
getting force of will procced on bosses is worth enough
i think thats what the the 10% toughness on stagger talent is called
tall torrent
Anoint in blood also only works when u have ranged weapon in hand
sudden cedar
That much i would assume yes.
So what i take from this is.. i can't have it so that when iam low on toughness, i throw a fire grenade and the enemies dying from it will restore my toughness, correct?
tall torrent
So what i take from this is.. i can't have it so that when iam low on toughness,...
You will not get toughness from kills caused by the fire DOT from immolation grenades regardless of taking TVoT
sudden cedar
How sad.
tall torrent
Voice of Terra should be some sorta bounty talent to fit its name
tame lodge
Self reminder to test Immo Ambuscade later
tame lodge
Voice of Terra should be some sorta bounty talent to fit its name
"It's the year 2039, all classes have some sort of bounty hunter talent......"
turbid ibex
what would be a bounty hunter talent
tall torrent
“Go kill that guy I marked”
sudden cedar
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Psyker’s DD
Arb’s EO
Veteran’s exe stance kinda isn’t because when everybody is marked, no one is “specifically marked”
sudden cedar
So you mean.. its going to be buggy as hel and cause game crashes when fixed.
Got it.
tall torrent
Focus target sorta is but you choose who u mark
turbid ibex
Focus target sorta is but you choose who u mark
ye i think thats prob close enough
void dragon
Focus target sorta is but you choose who u mark
"see that BoN? I don't want to see it anymore" the keystone
unreal forge
Vermintide 2:
Instant on anyone u tag
meanwhile in Darktide you need to wait like 10 seconds for 20% damage every time
void dragon
Wonder if making it so any target the team mark gets increased damage (with lower value but better spread because everyone contributes) would serve better in a post rework Veteran alternative reality
turbid ibex
i think itd be much more fun if there was a way for you to actively build up stacks for that keystone
instead of being completely passive
turbid ibex
It has a minimum stack refresh mechanic
what is that?
mortal aspen
Instant on anyone u tag
instant and lingering
WHC is paid dlc tier career
despite being base game
💀
unreal forge
so are erm all of Sienna's careers
turbid ibex
despite being base game
based ngl
tall torrent
what is that?
If enemy dies within 2s of being tagged, veteran immediately gains another stack to have 2
unreal forge
so are erm all of Sienna's careers
maybe not Pyro and Unchained
foggy wadi
its been a min. are one of the builds in the pins a meta set up for havoc?
tame lodge
despite being base game
Me when I yell really loud having 100 CRIT chance and my critical hits weakspot insta kill stuff
Oh and I get attack speed on top of attack speed
mortal aspen
and this dps machine with infinite block has 125 hp for some reason
teal lance
When the Veteran gets reworked, I think the talent that regens toughness after not getting hit in melee a while (I forgot the name) should become an aura instead of a talent.
turbid ibex
its already a really strong talent by itself
tame lodge
and this dps machine with infinite block has 125 hp for some reason
Forgor about the infinite block
💀
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When the Veteran gets reworked, I think the talent that regens toughness after n...
when vet gets reworked i think they should double the stat nodes in the tree
there should also only be one intersection between the subtrees
right at the start
turbid ibex
when vet gets reworked i think they should double your taxes
sharp epoch
remove melee from vet 😃 👍
mortal aspen
when vet gets reworked i think they should double your taxes
double tactical axes yes
pls
sharp epoch
arbiter does do vet but better so it basically is gone
void dragon
there should also only be one intersection between the subtrees
Thousands of options for each archetype, but you can mix and match, the purest wat of guardmen-ing taught in the army or nothing
void dragon
arbiter does do vet but better so it basically is gone
Arby does everything what everyone else does, but better
tame lodge
arbiter does do vet but better so it basically is gone
Last time I checked Arby's didn't have Helbore
Helbore 1
Arby's 0
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arbiter does do vet but better so it basically is gone
arby's does some stuff he does but better
its not a full replacement (no survivalist/exe stance deleting bosses)
thats why i propose arby's gets infinite ammo aura and they crank up his boss damage and they give him power sword + shredder frags so they can fully replace vet
tame lodge
Notice how Arby's have none of that
hollow ibex
arby's does some stuff he does but better
its not a full replacement (no surviva...
Bonus 50 percent boss damage passively lol. Don’t even need exec stance
tame lodge
#nooticing
heavy rover
arbiter does do vet but better so it basically is gone
arby doesn't have smokes or helbore
hollow ibex
Yeah because exec stance is just that
Yeah yeah it gives damage boost but arbi gets more anyway
hollow ibex
Although one of them got that smokers voice
He ate all the smoke nades
sharp epoch
arby's does some stuff he does but better
its not a full replacement (no surviva...
meh vets job is normally ranged elites and specials and arby just outclasses them
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vet also generates value just by existing from survivalist idk
sharp epoch
vet also generates value just by existing from survivalist idk
i feel like the netgain of the ammo aura with a vet not using helbore makes the ammo aura not really worth it
its close to zero or negative
hollow ibex
Tbf vet has a better selection of weapons with actual range to work with
mortal aspen
I don't think it's fair to compare classes like that
someone is always going to be worse than the others
vet has unique things going on that arby doesn't and vice versa
numerically arby is just busted as shit and braindead
turbid ibex
its close to zero or negative
how so?
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i feel like the netgain of the ammo aura with a vet not using helbore makes the ...
yeah but the team is also generating ammo
mortal aspen
so much team support, weapon specialist, infinite ammo (multiple sources of it too)
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its a very consistent source of ammo
mortal aspen
better grenade spam
tame lodge
I don't think it's fair to compare classes like that
someone is always going to ...
Every class in this game is so borked
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every class in this game except for arbites should be nuked
arbites is the only class that deserves to exist
tame lodge
Nah
Mid class
void dragon
We already have plans to nuke Zealot, and Def Veteran later on
tame lodge
sharp epoch
so much team support, weapon specialist, infinite ammo (multiple sources of it t...
arby got weapon specialist too a more fleshed out version tbh
and they regen grenades
turbid ibex
arby got weapon specialist too a more fleshed out version tbh
no lmao
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We already have plans to nuke Zealot, and Def Veteran later on
the zealots have until death we'd have to nuke them twice
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arby got weapon specialist too a more fleshed out version tbh
yeah a dogshit version of ws
void dragon
Arby needs no nuke, no risk making it the hulk, just kill it and replace it with a Buzz lightyear toy
turbid ibex
TW also wants you to shoot hordes
void dragon
the zealots have until death we'd have to nuke them twice
Nah, just nuke them after the pox walker spank them once
tame lodge
arby got weapon specialist too a more fleshed out version tbh
The general consensus is that that Arby's keystone is a worse Weapon Specialist
💀
tame lodge
And they only Regen grenade if you let go of the doge
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The general consensus is that that Arby's keystone is a worse Weapon Specialist
i feel like when fart shart was making arby's they just kinda took a bunch of vet stuff and flipped a coin on whether to make it a busted version of that thing or a dogshit version of it
sharp epoch
The general consensus is that that Arby's keystone is a worse Weapon Specialist
I think it's good, but his other keystones are just better and for vet its the only decent one
tame lodge
And the doge is the best part
void dragon
The middle keystone of arby is the worse but doesn't matter because all it's power comes from many perks along the way
faint beacon
And they only Regen grenade if you let go of the doge
Tbf the pocket Smyker every minute is ludicrous and im surprised it wasn’t nerfed
tame lodge
I mean
Shock Mine is just a worse smite
void dragon
And they only Regen grenade if you let go of the doge
I love regen "pocket smite psyker" but I want me dog more
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I think it's good, but his other keystones are just better and for vet its the o...
lowk each keystone has its use case and excels at that use-case, but they dont change the gameplan enough for people to notice
(with the exception of ws)
turbid ibex
lowk each keystone has its use case and excels at that use-case, but they dont c...
middle one specially
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ft could just as easily be a regular talent
sharp epoch
I don't like FT because it just adds an extra input to every target you kill if you want to use it optimally
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on minor enemies it only really matters if it changes breakpoints
turbid ibex
the two things i want the most for it are some way to actively build more stacks instead of being completely passive generation and have it give some sort of bonus when killing marked enemies by default
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the real purpose is for the juicy +20% damage on bosses
turbid ibex
the two things i want the most for it are some way to actively build more stacks...
like these two would alone would make the keystone much more fun to use imo
sharp epoch
the real purpose is for the juicy +20% damage on bosses
20% damage on bosses only as a keystone is kinda mid
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its teamwide damage
hybrid plover
FT starts to shine more in Havoc tbh
void dragon
It's it dumb from me to think that if ObeseFish doesn't want to make easier for Veteran to detect enemies like Arby or have on command crit sources like psyker, shouldn't he be quite adept at reloading? It having good weak spot damage doesn't feel enough of an argument that he is a marksman class
mortal aspen
look at what they need to do to mimic a fraction of our power (c)
void dragon
look at what they need to do to mimic a fraction of our power (c)
Wait, so it can have 4 different enemies damage amped? One per player tagging
mortal aspen
no
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tags are shared
mortal aspen
you can have as many as you want
the damage debuff is not attached to the tag
it's separate
turbid ibex
It's it dumb from me to think that if ObeseFish doesn't want to make easier for ...
i mean vet hasnt been changed in a good while
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i mean vet hasnt been changed in a good while
yeah so thats why they should nerf survivalist again
give him another good kick in the balls
void dragon
i mean vet hasnt been changed in a good while
As far as I understand, it doesn't even had a real rework yet
maiden latch
Hellow im new any good build for beteran in auric ? i read his role is snipe enemys
void dragon
give him another good kick in the balls
Make survivalist increase the ammo from any pickup my 1%
turbid ibex
As far as I understand, it doesn't even had a real rework yet
not on the same way ogryn had a rework but yes
vet's tree is still incredibly outdated in structure
void dragon
Hellow im new any good build for beteran in auric ? i read his role is snipe ene...
Veteran specialty is a gunner support, he can hunt specialists quite effectively due its ammo efficiency and a few of its best guns help on sniper work, with the likes of bolter or Helbore
But it's best tools (survivalist aura, shout with gold toughness and general ammo efficiency in lasweapons) are supportive for a team
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Hellow im new any good build for beteran in auric ? i read his role is snipe ene...
bottom can be whatever but this is the generally accepted talent spread
usually you go down bottom right for weapon specialist and melee buffs, bottom left for more ranged buffs and superiority complex
turbid ibex
also since we were talking about the keystones another thing worth bringing up is how they demand a lot more point investment to reach them when compared to ogryn or arbites
void dragon
WS keystone is really strong as an all around for the class
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also since we were talking about the keystones another thing worth bringing up i...
yeah double his taxes
more subnodes for infiltrate!
void dragon
Make a new node that unlocks the capacity to suppress when going out of stealth
turbid ibex
5 points to reach marksman or weapon specialist and 6 to reach focus target
also i just realized two of his keystones have the word "focus" on their name
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usually you go for iron will tho so its only a like 3 point investment for focus target
turbid ibex
compared to ogryn and arb where its literally one point
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void dragon
And one of those is garbo
orchid hemlock
looks like the fortniters are back at it 😈 https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1nb5owv/whats_going_on_its_been_months_without_new_content/
void dragon
looks like the fortniters are back at it 😈 https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/co...
They are not used that ObeseFish operates on Ice ages for it's updates
maiden latch
ok thnx i saw the build of veteran of this video and i dont knowed if is realy ok : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVewqAlskuw but reading you is good thnx for the time
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ok thnx i saw the build of veteran of this video and i dont knowed if is realy ...
the one at 47 seconds is fine
some people take field improv instead of duck and dive for some extra utility
void dragon
Field improv is Def a good perk to consider taking, helps a lot in some scenarios when you loot those resource boxes
mortal aspen
ok thnx i saw the build of veteran of this video and i dont knowed if is realy ...
if it says it's good in H40 it's good for Auric
anything will work in auric
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a monkey on a typewriter could beat auric given enough time tbf
turbid ibex
how does field improv even work exactly?
is it just the crates you drop?
or does it work on the ones your teammates place as well
tame lodge
All the crates yeah
narrow frost
if the vet is currently in the map (not in the 20 seconds respawn time) all crates dropped will be buffed
turbid ibex
good to know im not shooting my team in the foot by not giving every crate to the veteran then
tame lodge
And the med pack will go from 6% health per second to 12% and 1% toughness per second
maiden latch
thanks for info @mortal aspen @narrow widget
tame lodge
But the max health on the medkit still the same 500hp
tame lodge
Unless you're dead when they are placed
Like dead dead
You can be downed/waiting for rescue and it'll work
junior grail
Man I really wish Vet would get a talent rework
tame lodge
sinful palm
Give fatshark 6 more months and you'll have it 😂 😂
mortal aspen
excessive consumption of copium is bad for your health
hollow ibex
Give fatshark 6 more months and you'll have it 😂 😂
Six months? I remember when I was an optimist like you
tame lodge
excessive consumption of copium is bad for your health
My body has developed copium tolerance
There's no amount that can satisfy it
turbid ibex
that just sounds like addiction
anyways either vet or zealot rework before end of the year
junior grail
No copium only hopium
tropic notch
tame lodge
Loadout config is mad funny
tropic notch
Loadout config is mad funny
now do purg staff
mortal aspen
Veteran should get a 4th path in the tree that makes him a psyker
like Kerillian became SoTT
tame lodge
now do purg staff
tall torrent
anyways either vet or zealot rework before end of the year
That’s hopium
serene bough
what kind of lasgun is this
tame lodge
Ok so
This applies burn
And burn is fire
But it's channeled from 40k hell
So this is that hellgun they talk about
shrewd parcel
Question if the shield ogryn can protect from almost anything why does everyone charge infront of it? Example I can tank a demon host no problem but everyone else just runs into it
mortal aspen
Question if the shield ogryn can protect from almost anything why does everyone ...
the shield is for protecting you
if the DH is attacking you, it'll keep attacking you
shield or no shield
shrewd parcel
I get that i know it won't change its more of why dont they let me trigger it? Im also just trying to get the general mindset of the public so I can become a better player
hollow ibex
I think I’m seeing dounle
spice shard
Question if the shield ogryn can protect from almost anything why does everyone ...
incompetence
hollow ibex
Did bro just ask this question in every channel
spice shard
yes
hollow ibex
Taking the ogryn RP a bit too seriously
mortal aspen
tardy arrow
Veteran should get a 4th path in the tree that makes him a psyker
nah. 4th tree vet should be outcast engineer with a helgun
well, some kind of hot-shot weaponry. be it a volley gun, helgun
tardy arrow
Taking the ogryn RP a bit too seriously
are you always so insufferable? lmao
tardy arrow
incompetence
personally i prefer arbitrator's shield to ogryn's. it's very marginal but the special on arbitrator's shield just satisfies my autism
flashbang shield go brrr
spice shard
fair
dont know how much use it would have against a daemonhost
tardy arrow
fair
dont know how much use it would have against a daemonhost
yeah. that's where ogryn's shield does kinda come in handy. you can just tank everything. although a lot of ogryns don't know how to utilise that properly
hollow ibex
are you always so insufferable? lmao
lol are you always so pissy about everything?
God forbid I crack a joke
turbid ibex
personally i prefer arbitrator's shield to ogryn's. it's very marginal but the s...
Also actual combos instead of H1->H1
tardy arrow
Also actual combos instead of H1->H1
very true yeah.
hollow ibex
Honestly find arbi shield kinda boring too. But it’s a way better designed weapon than ogryn shield
Ogryn shield does have some combos
Not the worst thing ever
But not exactly interesting to me
tall torrent
arb shield+maul is prob the best designed melee in quite a while
can handle mixed horde with multiple ragers at baseline without stagger blessing spec
deals solid carapace damage to kill maulers and crushers
a blessing pool that actually has interesting choices going on
talents that specifically support its defensive playstyle
and has notable but not overwhelming downsides (weaker vs unyielding, low dodge distance, low dodge count)
faint beacon
Arbmaul is just DS except Arby flavored
tall torrent
arbmaul on the other hand
it's a bit overtuned yea
nerf atk speed, cleave dmg distribution, strikedown atks' carapace & unyielding ADM
prob enough?
cuz half the problem is the weapon itself being a bit too good and the other half of the problem is the sheer amount of dmg bonus talents on arb tree
mystic glade
arb shield+maul is prob the best designed melee in quite a while
Literally has bc mk6 type of depth
tall torrent
Literally has bc mk6 type of depth
what's bc mk6
tame lodge
Bully Club 6?
mystic glade
mk 3
mystic glade
just light spam garbage
hybrid plover
first time hearing arb shield+maul is a light spam melee
tbf with that perfect block build, you really can just light spam away
tall torrent
tbf with that perfect block build, you really can just light spam away
block cancel kinda isn't light spam tho
mystic glade
block cancel kinda isn't light spam tho
of course it is 😭
tall torrent
of course it is 😭
u do u
real osprey
which combat blade mark is the superior
primal zealot
its a matter of some controversy
hollow ibex
Eh I think most people agree that mk6 is overall better
tame lodge
which combat blade mark is the superior
Mk6
One of the main gimmicks is that push attack on both marks have the same profile as mk6s heavy 1 and 2
But mk6s push attack is 10% faster
Clearly the best option
Both mks push attack also have 6.5 cleave and are pretty much good against hordes
Not like
Astronomically good
But usable good
tropic notch
which combat blade mark is the superior
On zealot and vet mk3 or 6 will do
Psyker mk6
I prefer mk6 on vet
Mk3 on zealot
steep flower
Yeah
Considering that 6 has 3 strikedown lights
Considering cleave and hitbox of attacks; you spam first 3 light attacks then push att to reset to the first light att pattern & repeat; you have CC, cleave & dmg in 1 combo that is ez to execute & maintain
Not to mention it is fluid between single target combos and the final light att being the stab does alot of dmg if you have a mixed horde and direct that attack towards the big bad mf in the crowd
red portal
i met this in havoc 23
He's martydom psyker
meager echo
xD
red portal
Still wild to build it
grand perch
I have a strange chain of arby players spam firing bolters at absolutely everything, until ammo runs out and they leave. Or they go down and leave, naturally
Did some YouTuber sell this as the new meta recently or sth?
red portal
I have a strange chain of arby players spam firing bolters at absolutely everyth...
Too many people focus too much on the "shooter" aspect of the game and ignore everything else.
Nothing new
red portal
Did some YouTuber sell this as the new meta recently or sth?
The bolter gun on arby is just ridiculous ATM people who have no idea how to play are just copying it with idea how to pilot it.
grand perch
There have always been bolter spammers but I'm having a strange chain off them being in every game
Someone must have poked that particular group of noskillers with a video
red portal
I saw a 40 clearance arby who would not let go of his block key ever and have really shit fundamentals when I was fuckin g around in like havoc 20's
I swear he did less damage than the average book zealot.
With the shock maul...
sudden cedar
@grand perch I thought that is usual Arbitrator behaviour.
scarlet crescent
I think i’ve met u somewhere in hk server
meager echo
if the name is nate its me
steep flower
Pepega; if it was havoc i just block a mofo like that; you should never abandon your team in a gamemode where no one can replace you (at random that is)
meager echo
Its was a havoc 23 game, he show up with a shock maul + smite build.
steep flower
There have always been bolter spammers but I'm having a strange chain off them b...
A curse no doubt
steep flower
Its was a havoc 23 game, he show up with a shock maul + smite build.
Of all things… smite users give smite a bad name
steep flower
Falter + lightning reflex
Dogshit
meager echo
Bro traumatized the host then leave.
it was 21
it has to be a meme or something
this can not be real
steep flower
Inferno & assail; yeah nah
Shock maul is nice tbh just not the blessings he choose
But the rest… i dunno man
meager echo
But then the wound curios
Idk man, that build seem very sus to me
1 wound is understandable, idk about 3.
grand perch
even 1 is a bad sign
red portal
I like blowing myself up with the voidblast(I am shit at psyker.)
tardy arrow
1 wound is understandable, idk about 3.
yeah. only reason to do a wound-focused build is martyrdom zealot. my theory is that newer players think that wounds are a form of health
tardy arrow
yeah. only reason to do a wound-focused build is martyrdom zealot. my theory is ...
(this isn't even their fault bc these mechanics aren't adequately explained in-game)
meager echo
i don't know anything about psyker, i cant even tell the different between assail and smite icon xD. But i saw some good one have 1 wound.
Very rare but ive seen it
tardy arrow
I like blowing myself up with the voidblast(I am shit at psyker.)
i'm sh*t with psyker's current selection of staffs with the exception of inferno and electrokinetic, which i'm PASSABLE at
give me a beam staff and i'll start dominating
bc my ranged playstyle focuses on torrents of damage. currently i gravitate towards inferno for that reason
yeah i'm a recon lasgun/brautogun/twink-linked player how can you tell?
steep flower
i don't know anything about psyker, i cant even tell the different between assai...
They did not knew
turbid ibex
yeah. only reason to do a wound-focused build is martyrdom zealot. my theory is ...
Having additional wounds also makes healing stims worse so its even more of a detriment
And ig it also makes beacon of purity worse now that i think about it