#veteran-class

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tranquil ledge
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What does finesse do again?

tame lodge
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As a buff
Extra Weakspot and critical damage

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As a weapon stat
Attack Speed, Weakspot and critical damage

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Do note that finesse on Bully Clubs is only attack speed

azure narwhal
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Then again

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fastest firing

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Would fall under braced context

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But if it's all da shooty autoguns

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Infantry is peak

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All of em i enjoy

hybrid plover
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Dum Dum, Raking Fire on Vraks

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Proceed to give bonbon the meanest backshots in Tertium

azure narwhal
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Yeah

tame lodge
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Tbf I didn't remember who's faster between Brauto and Infantry

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So I just guessed infantry

azure narwhal
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YOU CALLIN ME A DUM DUM, LITTLE ONE

tame lodge
azure narwhal
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Been a while but i believe the braces are the fastest of pews

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Which is funny cause most people i see running braced run the slowest firing one

hybrid plover
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because the slowest one has amazing cleave

azure narwhal
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I say, get yourself a boltgun

hybrid plover
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it is actually really good for mixed hordes

azure narwhal
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Tru, for what time i did use it it was fun

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Also iirc

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Its UI icon looks like an AK

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Which was funni

hybrid plover
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It's clearly kalashnikov influenced in design

tame lodge
serene bough
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id agree if shocktroop didnt exist

tranquil ledge
serene bough
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no the vet talent that gives lasguns free ammo on crit hit

tranquil ledge
serene bough
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its got great raw DPS but shocktroop makes recon more ammo efficient while still being very good

hybrid plover
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but that's dependent on a specific node for lasguns

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if we're talking both weapons without that sorta niche

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the infantry 100% comes out on top

hybrid plover
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hmm

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i was not aware that weak spot damage from mercy killer stacks additively with other weak spot damage multis

heavy rover
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oh hey they brought cranial corruption back into havoc

hybrid plover
halcyon blaze
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I use my Bolt Pistol on vet with Lethal Proximity for the buff to my grenades, and Run 'n' Gun which makes it really easy to run with and instantly hipfire delete specialists.

Surgical is also a good choice if you find yourself stopping to aim down sights more often than not, if you have good aim then it pairs well with Deadly Accurate.

hollow ibex
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surgical DA on bistol is a trap tbh

hybrid plover
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bolt pistol in general just feels like a trap sometimes lol

tropic notch
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Not necessarily

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It’s good

hybrid plover
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the only time i ever feel like it's really good enough for me to use as an actual ranged weapon is with weapon specialist

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that's it

tropic notch
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Because it synergizes with it

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Only useful for it

hybrid plover
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that's what i mean tho

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like, it's good with that

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but trying it with anything else is just disappointing honestly

sonic kayak
tame lodge
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I should play dmr Bistol more

hybrid plover
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havoc teams that rush make me want to cry

grand perch
narrow frost
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pus and orange

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imagine

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90% ranged DR on shooters

primal zealot
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gonna be peak recon infernus gaming

faint beacon
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I LOVE PUS HARDENDED!!!!!!

void dragon
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Me when pus hardened exist:

primal zealot
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anything beats rituals tbh

void dragon
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Rituals when they are not bugged are even enjoyable tbh, but when they just randomly trigger they are a blight

primal zealot
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"when theyre not bugged" sir this is darktide

void dragon
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I'm aware of the anomaly that is non bugs in DT, I'm just saying

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ObeseFish skill to add bugs to this game is beyond a gift

faint beacon
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A non-bugged ritual is asking for like Veteran to get weapons

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its not happening

void dragon
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It will happen the MorbidlyobeseShrimp promised it!...in the year 40000...if we are lucky (now non-bugged rituals might be beyond the scale of what our universe can allow)

faint beacon
narrow frost
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reminds me of this

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"RAHHHHHHHHHH!" thud

faint beacon
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Brain Damage embodied

boreal aspen
grand perch
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NOMA - Brain Power on infinite loop

mortal aspen
grand perch
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I successfully nudged someone away from using longshot today

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You know, I'm a bit of a saint myself

tame lodge
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Sure, saint closeshotius

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We

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We still working on the name

heavy rover
tame lodge
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Hah

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Like 90% ranged Dr is going to stop helby

grand perch
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i hear hes not getting out a lot

sonic pecan
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thank god they are releasing vet rework tomorrow

tame lodge
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Weird way of spelling never

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Must be french or something

heavy rover
steep flower
sudden cedar
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🤔

slim copper
faint beacon
grand perch
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it was

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man did his homework though. 5 walls of text

faint beacon
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I mean yeah admittedly those situations it’s good but then you have to think how many maps have massive sight lines and let you hit enemies from that far out

grand perch
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vet rework be like: all stat nodes removed, tree is now a circle

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job done

narrow widget
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infinite tax

pallid mango
little path
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New tree: We trimmed the branches
It's just VOC now
If you equip the bolter it automatically changes to exec stance

pallid mango
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Only after other clases you realise how much diversity psyker truly has

slow spire
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It's been a minute since I last played(since the crafting rework) and started playing again, ironing out weapons and such. I remember finally getting into my element on my vet with a chainsword/mk II revolver build of my own making and curious how it holds up nowadays?
P.S. I have a toughness curio I can replace the stam curio with.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fb86d87-4ba1-453a-ae31-0590bec24565/revolver-pop

GamesLantern.com

Veteran build for Warhammer 40k: Darktide, using the Cadia Mk XIIIg Assault Chainsword and Zarona Mk IIa Quickdraw Stub Revolver.

azure narwhal
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But vet is definitely the strictest

grand perch
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nah

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zealot and their 1.5 viable builds is just sad

azure narwhal
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Still better than vet

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I can run 2 abilities

grand perch
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PATENTLY UNTRUE

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woops caps

azure narwhal
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Lmao made it better dw

pallid mango
azure narwhal
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Yeah sure

grand perch
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hahaha

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no

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they get the rework next precisely because everything but the one build is so bad

azure narwhal
# grand perch no

Book zealot and fotf are both very viable AT LEAST, so is IJ and piety

little path
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some nodes that are useless but otherwise nothing outright incorrect

azure narwhal
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At the end of the day tho we are comparing eh with eh

little path
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except the fact that you have a wound curio

pallid mango
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Book stealth and dash all are viable. Same for end perks. Martdyrdom zealots exist, movement ones exist and extra crits also viable so zealot

little path
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literally no class in this entire game should ever use a wound curio (Except zealot and only if you're running it for the funny builds)

slow spire
azure narwhal
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Vet is definitely more tied up

pallid mango
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Stamina curious for the chadsKEKW_ogryn

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Cannot live without +3 stamina

grand perch
pallid mango
little path
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@slow spire

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Circled in red is things I would recommend just not using

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green is things that are 100% fine

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but you have the choice of swapping over to something considered "more meta"

azure narwhal
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P good

grand perch
steep flower
steep flower
slow spire
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what makes the IV better than the XIII varient? it loses damage on the heavy attack and changes one of the aoe swings to a single target.

steep flower
slow spire
tropic notch
orchid hemlock
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Also you have a lot of balls taking revolver without WS

tropic notch
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Book and stealth are poopy as well

trim badger
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Book is not poopy

tropic notch
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Maybe with the rework they’ll be good

orchid hemlock
tropic notch
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I gotta stop attacking to use book

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If I could attack

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It wouldn’t be bad

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Nice to turn the game off like ds tho

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The baby mode

trim badger
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You kinda gotta pick one xdd

tropic notch
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Both

azure narwhal
trim badger
tropic notch
fast mason
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Xir yes xir

trim badger
tropic notch
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I feel it…

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The woke is awakening

orchid hemlock
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Book is completely contradictory to Zealot's playstyle

The only reason people take it into Havocs is to babysit your team with golden toughness and CC crusher hordes

trim badger
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Yea

Doesn't mean it's bad, just lame and babymode and stupid

elder vessel
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support tools = baller

tropic notch
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I’m the support tool because everything is dead

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And there’s nothing attacking mah team

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I will say vet is better than zealot at support

elder vessel
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you say that, but im not sure you are enough to keep the game calm and controlled through force of killy

tropic notch
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Look at born leader

elder vessel
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listening to Tanner Lindberg in the big 2025 🥀

tropic notch
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Anyone know how to get good

orchid hemlock
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Zealot is always at the bottom of the damage charts in Havoc, and the majority of it comes from the Flamer 💀

tropic notch
trim badger
tropic notch
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I should use hsword in havoc

trim badger
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Can't catch My swag (bolter)

steep flower
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its like comparing rice to potatoes; both are great thumbsup_ogryn

tropic notch
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True

steep flower
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and both are a side dish

trim badger
tropic notch
steep flower
trim badger
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;(((

steep flower
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unless you face a mauler KEKW_ogryn

tropic notch
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Was planning to use it on zealot

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Fury deals with cara well

orchid hemlock
# trim badger And I get 0 merit for being skillful and dealing high dmg???

If you are playing Psyker and you are not doing over 40% of the teams damage

Trash

If you are playing Vet and you don't represent 80% of the team's Specialist kills

Trash

If you are playing Ogryn and you don't have the lowest damage taken

Trash

If you are playing Arbi and if your scoreboard isn't a golden wall

Trash

trim badger
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Y'know with all the toughness resistance and regen and highest number

trim badger
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Idk my vet is swag

Highest elite/special, highest boss dmg, highest dmg

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And somehow My team loses because they decide to play bully club ogryn, arbites with shield and mace, and psyker that doesn't deal damage

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2 million dmg and team loses anyways :DDDDD

tropic notch
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Billy club with skull crusher and thunderous is amazing

trim badger
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It is but for some reason 9/10 ogryns that run club are braindead

tropic notch
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Most people don’t know what they are doing

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That is a big issue

trim badger
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I love Havoc 40

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I can't wait to join a team and have 2 people with 40 assignment do absolutely nothing for the round

tropic notch
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I put points into anything because I’m too lazy to read and no I will NOT take feedback I wanna enjoy my shit build

trim badger
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Once I'm back Home I'll fucking share a screenshot of one of my latest scoreboards

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It made me mad how much I pumped out and how little my team did

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And you won't guess who did the least (obviously the arbites cuz all arbites players are trash in Havoc)

tropic notch
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I use tac axe on him and I just don’t die lol

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Btl and forceful

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Crazy

trim badger
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I don't get how people can die tho

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With Arbites

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Outside of the complete DT™ moments

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I see people just fumbling, and these fucks have a h40 rank

tropic notch
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I’ve lived surrounded by shotgunner, reapers, and 30 gunners all laying into me

blazing jetty
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sometimes a plague ogryn knocks you off a cliff

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but otherwise it takes actual effort to fuck up as an arbites

trim badger
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But outside of these you shouldn't really die as arbites

elder vessel
trim badger
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I love pickaxe on ogryn

hybrid plover
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I've topped boss damage numerous times on book zealot with a Mk3 knife lol

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On h40. It's very possible to be a damage dealing book zealot. You just have to accept that you can't have all the uptime in the world on chorus.

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Meaning you actually have to have a team that also knows what they're doing so you're not always having to babysit them with golden toughness.

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But that's, kind of the issue.

clear lantern
# trim badger Yea a DT™ moment

going to the Refinery and you jump down from the sewer onto the rail, and see 12 barrels and the music of a plague ogryn and you know 2 people are gonna die

steep flower
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@slow spire Ay man; i am available; are you up?

trim badger
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Most book uses should only have 2-3 pulses

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Not all 7

steep flower
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so wrong

elder vessel
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Helldivers Tomorrow

steep flower
# trim badger It works™

You generate time with book; by pre-canceling you rob your team of that reprieve not to mention stunning bosses (basically anything) longer for your team to give free dps without worrying that they get smacked in the back

trim badger
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Dumb papa

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Cancelling is good if you know your team won't die

steep flower
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+you don't generate Golden Toughness to its fullest so your team is less tanky cause already ppl use the call (30% dmg) over holy (40% tdr)

steep flower
elder vessel
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dmg is the better one cuz everything around is staggered asf and probably not going to damage you to begin with

trim badger
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I use the dmg node cuz I run bolter

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So bye bye to that beast of nurgle

steep flower
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so no

void dragon
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satisfactory moment of the day: stun combo a DH from Frag into shout to reenact the "300" movie kick as my Vet goes "Put the karking foot in", fitting the image of kicking it off a cliff

elder vessel
steep flower
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its a big difference

void dragon
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why ppl want to not use full chorus? next you will tell me is that ppl want to waste ammo on poxbursters when a shove save ammo and cc enemies

slow spire
primal zealot
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shenanigans even

void dragon
steep flower
void dragon
clear lantern
void dragon
buoyant pewter
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Everyone will be coming out all smiles

barren marsh
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Hey guys is there a build someone can help me survive havoc difficulty that relies on toughnesss and dps?

ocean idol
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What do you think the most fitting ranged weapon for commando?

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i.e. vet with infiltration?

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for melee it is clearly knife or devilclaw

boreal aspen
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isn't there a vet build that uses none of the keystones, idk I'm just spitting shit rn.

orchid hemlock
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I can go commando 😏

barren marsh
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What’s the build and can it survive havoc?

boreal aspen
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I'm sick of meta shit, vet shout is so boring.

barren marsh
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I just love the way vet plays and looks

hybrid plover
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Because you want to proc the damage buff.

hollow ibex
trim badger
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For some reason

hybrid plover
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That's why you don't.

trim badger
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If you leave it by itself

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For some reason...

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And if you cancel it at 5 it doesn't proc

ocean idol
barren marsh
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I just love playing get

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Vet

hybrid plover
hollow ibex
hybrid plover
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I think it's a netcode thing.

barren marsh
tame lodge
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I don't know

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I don't remember my generic fps character be this good at melee

hybrid plover
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But yeah with chorus, you want to ensure that 30% because that's what really puts that damage output up, especially since it also affects dots too.

orchid hemlock
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Chorus

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

hybrid plover
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Marty Chorus fun

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I recall the last game I played with the build I use and someone asked in voice chat "how the fuck is the chorus zealot topping the ogryn in damage"

faint beacon
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If it’s a rumbler Ogryn then I think I know why

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Lmao

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I’m just saying there’s a stereotype for a reason

hybrid plover
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Rumbler schmumbler

tame lodge
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Bumbling

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Bumbling

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It's coming

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Bumbling

hybrid plover
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Honestly I'm getting to a point where rumbler ogryns are on that same level as arbites for me where if I see them in a Havoc lobby, I'm assuming they probably aren't gonna play well.

tame lodge
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BEWARE!

hybrid plover
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Because I played with a grenadier gauntlet oggy the other day.

red portal
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I use rumbler on ogryn whenever I'm asked to run ogryn.(I am like true level 50 on ogryn and don't have many loadouts for his weapons.)

red portal
hybrid plover
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Good lord that big boy was on to something. Bosses were a complete non issue

hybrid plover
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It's the reason I'm pretty sure I can't get into a Havoc lobby nearly as easily with arby anymore lmao

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I haven't seen an arbites in Havoc in a while actually.

red portal
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Man sometimes they just don't pull their weight

hybrid plover
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Well yeah like I swear, I've had arbites sabotage games from my perspective more than any other class because they just play so unnecessarily aggressively and rush.

tame lodge
sudden cedar
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There are rushers on every class

tropic notch
tropic notch
red portal
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Smh fyrestones out here sabotaging my games.

hybrid plover
sudden cedar
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Nothing to argue about here

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Arbitrators self-reliance with the cyber-mastiff does not make it obvious when you overextend

faint beacon
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GG players tend to be the Silent God stereotype

sudden cedar
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Mistakes aren't punished as quickly

faint beacon
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Completely shut down bosses from existing or hordes when they become an issue

hybrid plover
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Like a good arbites who knows what they're doing? They can be an absolute monster.

tropic notch
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Some people get too comfortable with power creep and such tend to get overconfident and die then leave

hybrid plover
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But that isn't the norm because the class is just so strong that people who tend not to know what they're doing crutch on how powerful it is.

tropic notch
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I get overconfident sometimes lol I main zealot

faint beacon
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Trains good habits

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And how to deal with things when you lack a get out of jail card

tropic notch
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When I hopped off of Arby I was washed

hybrid plover
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And because it's that strong, those very people gravitate towards the class.

red portal
tropic notch
faint beacon
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Tac Axe is only held back by target cap

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It’s incredibly powerful

hybrid plover
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Dunning Kruger be damned.

sudden cedar
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Running a bit ahead can also be dangerous because you trigger stuff

faint beacon
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Outside of that

tropic notch
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I used to be knife only

red portal
tropic notch
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But then I fell in love with the hsword

red portal
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Usually don't push that far

faint beacon
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Besides I prefer fucking over ragers instead of Le instantly killing an enemy

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Because I don’t like rager swarms being a death sentence

tall torrent
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no stagger

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no carapace dmg

tropic notch
faint beacon
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Truth nuke

tall torrent
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5s to kill a single crusher

tropic notch
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Chainsword vet havoc 40

faint beacon
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Bloodletter

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To be specific

red portal
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You should always run dog shit weapons to make sure your skills are top notch.

tall torrent
faint beacon
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Mb

tall torrent
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u should use bloodthirsty and never activate

faint beacon
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Rev it up idiot

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YOU NEED

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the mobility

tall torrent
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bloodthirsty + rev it up

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and never activate

tropic notch
hybrid plover
faint beacon
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Mk4 isn’t even that terrible

tropic notch
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Mk7 all da way

faint beacon
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Mk7 is the most flexible

tall torrent
faint beacon
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Do we need to elaborate at all

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Lmao

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Arby turns it into a useable melee

hybrid plover
# tropic notch Mk7

I disagree with this notion but Mk7 is still hella good so I'm not arguing.

faint beacon
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Mk4 is the “weakest”

tropic notch
faint beacon
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Cause it’s light spam

tall torrent
hybrid plover
hybrid plover
tropic notch
red portal
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Ok but how do you deal with hordes on taxe in havoc I heard brutal momentum stops working in 40's.

hybrid plover
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That's the primary reason I like it over 7.

faint beacon
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Hell there’s quite a few weapons that are dated that could use something

red portal
tall torrent
hybrid plover
tropic notch
hybrid plover
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It's just less consistent for that reason.

tropic notch
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And you can swap deci to headtaker again

red portal
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Unarmoured flak or unarmoured carapace preferable?

tropic notch
red portal
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Aight

tall torrent
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BM loses quite a bit of value when most enemies take >2 hits to kill

tropic notch
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Yeah

hybrid plover
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It's still okay. But it isn't nearly the bombshell of a blessing that it is in auric.

tall torrent
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it's basically relegated to killing bruisers

tropic notch
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That why it’s so good on zealot and psyker

red portal
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Is decimator a trap blessing im unsure how effective power buff is tbh.

hybrid plover
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Marty mk4 tac axe zealot. Ough.

tropic notch
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Mk4 is headtaker - shred or deci

red portal
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If I don't take BM what is the other alternative

tropic notch
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Flak unarmored

tropic notch
tall torrent
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shred, relentless

tropic notch
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Oh yeah

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Relentless

tall torrent
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relentless is basically only ever relevant on boss

serene bough
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man

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i love this new modifier event on gloriana

tall torrent
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but it is higher boss dps than most other blessings

faint beacon
hybrid plover
faint beacon
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Shred helps with Bruiser BPs iirc

tropic notch
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Tbh tac axe on vet isn’t as strong as it is on zealot, Arby, and psyker but it’s still good

tall torrent
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It’s kinda best on arb

tropic notch
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Yeah

faint beacon
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It’s fucking insane on Arb

tropic notch
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It’s so ridiculous

faint beacon
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Its basically just Arbs knife

tropic notch
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Tac axe Arby is literally immortal

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With forceful

hybrid plover
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Everything is best on arby to be fair.

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Even the shock maul becomes really, really good on arby.

tropic notch
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True but tax axe gives Arby moblity

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And moblity is what he always needs on his other weapons

red portal
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I've heard people using agile on taxe.

tropic notch
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And it overwrites his shitty dodges

faint beacon
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Which isn’t a bad thing

tropic notch
faint beacon
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It’s honestly more of a debuff stick

tropic notch
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Unironically a trap

faint beacon
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crusher does this better obviously

tall torrent
tall torrent
tropic notch
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It’s really good because it gives you inf dodges but now you’re crutching on it and not using others to boost your dps

hybrid plover
faint beacon
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Agile is cool and all but like it’s a huge trap

tropic notch
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Fr

tall torrent
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Tac axe is best on arb cuz u can skip a bunch of talents

tropic notch
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Remember when the force swords had infinite dodges

void dragon
tall torrent
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Most things that are normally required for stagger melees u can just skip

tall torrent
faint beacon
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Literally crusher

hybrid plover
tropic notch
faint beacon
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Everything Smaul does Crusher does better argument

tall torrent
hybrid plover
tropic notch
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Why

hybrid plover
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You can just stop caring completely about stagger.

tall torrent
void dragon
tropic notch
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I mean kinda? It’s free damage with the forceful tree

hybrid plover
tropic notch
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EO

hybrid plover
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So it has particularly good synergy with that keystone.

hybrid plover
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And that side entirely since its the side that beefs up crit chance and damage.

tall torrent
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I think best melee for forceful is Rashad/crusher

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And shield+maul

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Everything else is sorta just better with EO

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Bonkers keystone

hybrid plover
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You lose on on that one really good node that gives you toughness on stagger enemy hits but

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One node. Lost. On arby.

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Like it really isn't that big of a deal.

tropic notch
faint beacon
hybrid plover
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And not needing to focus on stagger means there's a ton more options for nodes that are now open.

tall torrent
faint beacon
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It’s hands down the best keystone in the game

void dragon
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Pay2vet turned to be Pay2winhard

tropic notch
faint beacon
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It needs nerfs bad

tall torrent
hybrid plover
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I really don't think they should have given arby that kind of power.

faint beacon
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But it’s not gonna happen

tall torrent
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Because first off u can just stagger every non-boss enemy in the game

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Why do u need concussive to do it

tropic notch
narrow widget
tropic notch
hybrid plover
# void dragon Doubt they intended

I mean it's pretty straight forward. I don't think they realized how badly this was going to clash with the effectiveness of other classes though.

faint beacon
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You don’t really need it

void dragon
hybrid plover
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Yes let's give a keystone that focuses heavily on elite and specialist killing to the strongest class in the game. And then also give that class wall hacks on all applicable targets so they can kill them first.

tropic notch
olive halo
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bros, what mark heavy laspistol do you think is best?

hybrid plover
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You know. The enemy types other classes tend to need kills on to shine.

void dragon
hybrid plover
#

Great idea Fatshark

faint beacon
tropic notch
#

What’s all held back by its target cap?

void dragon
#

Blasphemy

faint beacon
#

Okay veteran does have one thing

tropic notch
faint beacon
#

That Arby doesn’t

mortal aspen
#

VT2 is getting a new map tomorrow
Darktide is dead

faint beacon
#

An actually good hybrid keystone

#

Lmao

olive halo
# tall torrent 2

Ive been using that one bcz I didnt realize there's another one, but why 2?

faint beacon
#

WS >>>> TW

#

One thing though lmao

tropic notch
#

@tall torrent can i have your tac axe build

faint beacon
#

Only one

tropic notch
hybrid plover
mortal aspen
#

Vet has actual team support

tall torrent
narrow widget
void dragon
olive halo
#

fair enough

tropic notch
#

Sifu path im waiting

void dragon
#

Risking delaying it for 10 more years, do we have ANY news on the Vet new weapon? Will it be released in this century?

narrow widget
void dragon
#

Rejects don't do numbers

narrow widget
#

who here can count

tropic notch
#

I can’t

void dragon
#

Em Oni, ah tuo...Tree! And something
-Sincerely a loyal ogryn

faint beacon
#

Anything above 3 with melee is literally just a bonus

hybrid plover
#

Running vraks infantry and getting ten ranged specialist stacks. whatthefuck_heresy

#

Say goodbye to your ammo.

muted peak
#

Again here after playing zealot and ogryn

#

I feel right at home in the guard

hybrid plover
#

Veteran is just more engaging to me than other classes.

#

I dunno what it is.

muted peak
#

Yeah

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You always do something but it never gets boring

vale tundra
#

i just never feel right with the zealot, ogryn is fun if i wanna just throw rocks

tall torrent
muted peak
#

You are on watch duty if you are free at your vicinity and just diving into horde with chaxe feels better for me than all of ogryn and zealot

#

Dunno why

mortal aspen
#

#nerfvet

tall torrent
#

One sec

sharp epoch
void dragon
hybrid plover
muted peak
#

I dont like zealot much

#

Feels too much action oriented for me

narrow widget
#

he still has players he deserves it

muted peak
#

Bruh

hybrid plover
void dragon
tall torrent
#

I think longshot not hard to buff

narrow widget
#

yeah make it no buffs till 100 meters

tall torrent
#

@tropic notch

hybrid plover
#

Shorten the distance for the buffs. Or make it that there's a base ranged damage increase that scales over distance. Instead of it starting at like, 12.5m if I recall?

muted peak
# hybrid plover Chorus.

Tried it, still doesnt give me the urge to play damnation with like my vet character does, dunno why

hybrid plover
muted peak
#

Maybe because its harder or I like guard better in my head

#

I have always wanted something to satisfy my guard hunger in this franchise

hybrid plover
#

Honestly I can't get around not using a Helbore nowadays so that makes me gravitate towards being veteran more.

#

I love being the sniper.

tall torrent
hybrid plover
#

I love also being good at it.

narrow widget
muted peak
#

Take kandrel mark 2 b inf lasgun

narrow widget
muted peak
#

And spray

void dragon
hybrid plover
tall torrent
hybrid plover
#

And it doesn't have that same... Feel to it.

#

Plus it also runs out of ammo way faster.

void dragon
muted peak
#

Bolter seems soulles compared to infantry guns

#

Like lasgun or autogun

void dragon
#

Seems like SUPER overkill

narrow widget
#

it's a fuckin bolter

hybrid plover
#

If anything, one main reason I love the Helbore so much.

tall torrent
hybrid plover
#

Is because you quite literally do not need Survivalist.

void dragon
hybrid plover
#

You can actually experiment a little bit with other setups because Shocktroop makes Helbore so ammo efficient

tall torrent
muted peak
#

Hellbore feels like wasting too much time on ranged

narrow widget
#

((((the ogryn))))

void dragon
hybrid plover
#

If it isn't. That's uh

#

That's kinda their problem tbh

narrow widget
#

tru

tall torrent
hybrid plover
#

Just means stop relying on range so heavily.

#

Even on the Helbore, i very often switch to melee for the stuff I need to melee instead of just shooting at it.

#

And I say this even for like, H40 because people shouldn't even be spamming their ranged weapon like that anyway.

muted peak
#

I put a challenge to myself, complete make every shot count penance with kandrael mark 2 b lasgun(1300 ammo)

hybrid plover
#

Rumbler ogryns be damned. Use your bully club.

muted peak
#

Wait

#

Thats the wrong penance

hybrid plover
#

Besides, as of recently I've been pretty much religiously using smokes and honestly, the utility those provide, feels actually more impactful than having survivalist or even shredders to me.

#

At least in Havoc. Because guns are so oppressive.

void dragon
#

Just krump stuff!

narrow widget
muted peak
sharp epoch
mortal aspen
#

it can give them infinite ammo

hybrid plover
muted peak
#

Horde on your ass, or a group of elites and you are alone for example

#

This is a fuck up for me at the very least

hybrid plover
#

It can lightly stagger.

narrow widget
muted peak
#

Damn

narrow widget
hybrid plover
#

I've actually clutched runs with smokes before.

tall torrent
#

I think not even ragers? Forgot

#

It’s a very weak stagger lol

hybrid plover
muted peak
narrow widget
#

pop a couple specialists in the horde and then shout ig

hybrid plover
#

Well that's why I like Helbore. H40 gives me a ton of kindling for shouts.

#

That's why I also use high mobility melee.

muted peak
hybrid plover
#

Like knife or tac axe.

hybrid plover
muted peak
#

Nice

#

Gotta try it sometime

hybrid plover
#

It's not a long time but it does honestly buy you time and again.

#

Gunners.

#

Shit is invaluable under ranged pressure.

muted peak
hybrid plover
#

It's that situation where it isn't useful in auric

narrow widget
hybrid plover
#

But havoc? It actually shines quite a bit because ranged units are a serious problem.

muted peak
#

Yeah I hate gunners pinning you down, even if you dont get supressed its still terrible for health or toughness

#

I didnt live that recently omw to auric, if it happens on havoc might think changing shredder frag with smoke

narrow widget
#

tactical awareness

hybrid plover
#

Which is, very, very, very good.

muted peak
#

Agile engagement?

#

Oh talent node

#

Mind dropping the details?

tall torrent
narrow widget
little path
#

I think a funny buff to smoke would be if gunners get shooting

#

but got coded to hit an ally 80% of the time

muted peak
narrow widget
#

5

muted peak
#

Damn

#

My dumbass couldnt utilize that so doesnt sound tempting

narrow widget
#

if you've ever used ws it's just more buffs in that vein

muted peak
#

ws?

narrow widget
#

weapon specialist

#

the keystone

muted peak
#

Used it

#

Only liked melee weapon swing speed increase

narrow widget
#

not the guaranteed crit?

muted peak
#

There was one?

#

If there was I never used it for that

mortal aspen
narrow widget
#

every 3 melee kills you get 1 guaranteed ranged crit

mortal aspen
#

the guaranteed crit is what makes it so fun

#

melee buff is neat too

muted peak
#

Wel

turbid ibex
#

+330% crit chance

muted peak
#

I just spray with my lasgun so I dont need crit chance i guess

mortal aspen
#

it's peak with Double Barrel

muted peak
#

I only used the talent node with infantry lasgun

#

Mark 2b

#

Guess thats why

narrow widget
#

try it with double barrel or revolver

muted peak
#

Why?

hybrid plover
#

Or even Helbore since that guarantees that your next shot won't use ammo.

narrow widget
#

true

muted peak
#

Like, playing double barrel is nightmare on vet for me

hybrid plover
#

And you don't even have to aim for it

muted peak
#

Also pistols

narrow widget
#

it's as shrimple as that

muted peak
#

I frequently use ranged for specials or even elites

void dragon
#

Just like back-off ogryn

muted peak
#

Dont like shotguns or pistols on my vet playstyle

hybrid plover
#

A thing I tend to do in a horde is switch to Helbore, immediately press left click to charge a shot to kill a random poxwalker to proc melee specialist.

muted peak
hybrid plover
#

Quickdraw Helbore.

void dragon
mortal aspen
#

you can kill snipers 500 football fields away with double barrel crit

#

and blow up rager hordes

muted peak
narrow widget
void dragon
muted peak
#

Wait

#

Isnt pinging one time enough for stacks to apply to enemy in focus target?

narrow widget
#

yeah but some people like the ✨ noise ✨

muted peak
#

Oh

#

Thats pure toxic then

mortal aspen
#

there's a mod that autopings for you, but also applies a cooldown, so it doesn't spam

muted peak
#

I actually thought first that focus target needed multiple pings because of the complains against those players

mortal aspen
#

binding to lmb is just unnecessary even if you want to save a keybind

muted peak
#

Played some games like that unfortunately

void dragon
#

Is more annoying than useful

hybrid plover
#

Just bind it to right mouse

narrow widget
#

yeah but what if I want to be annoying

muted peak
#

Not toxic enough

tropic notch
tall torrent
tropic notch
tall torrent
#

tac axe pretty meh vs boss

#

but also like

#

it's pretty easy to pick up

tropic notch
#

Is the 15% damage above like something precent of health worth it?

#

Wouldn’t that be better else where?

#

Or right bosses

south thistle
#

VETERANS

#

I REQUEST SOME INFORMATION

void dragon
#

The krag nades make good sandwiches thumbsup_ogryn

south thistle
#

With what weapon is that 90% accuracy the easiest

void dragon
#

The penance? DB shotgun

south thistle
#

U think?

void dragon
#

Yeah, even one pellet hitting keeps your accuracy high

south thistle
#

If u lie to me I’ll go tell a trusted adult about this…

narrow widget
void dragon
#

If I lie is because someone altered reality from when I did that penance

south thistle
#

I try later thanks yolo skibidi

#

I go play rocket league now

faint beacon
tame lodge
south thistle
jaunty tinsel
#

Melee build + revolver or shotgun is the easiest, you just spend all your ammo on hits and then don't pick any more up

south thistle
#

I’ve done it

heavy rover
hybrid plover
#

Was playing a h40 on Oubliette with Bushman a bit ago, was playing smoke vet and he had shields and I don't think I've ever gotten past that first part with all the gunners so cleanly before.

#

That was what really sold me on them tbh

grand perch
#

now gimme your wallet

pallid mango
midnight wyvern
edgy bane
#

I think I saw a second one in there, too. Hard to tell, they just died so quick.

ember nest
red fox
#

Whats the hellbore blessing choice now after hotshot is nerf,ed still hotshot?

covert fable
heavy rover
tame lodge
#

I know that it sounds sus

#

Amogus

#

Sussy baka

turbid ibex
grand perch
void dragon
#

The ObeseFish has blessed us with no crash patch, is it working now?

#

Also, they say they are cooking but I wonder what they are cooking

steep flower
red fox
#

Im wondering if the faster charge is worth it

void dragon
steep flower
red fox
#

Nah i mean the 3 over the 4

#

i wonder if its worht to go to the 3

steep flower
steep flower
red fox
#

👀

#

Well im convinced

void dragon
steep flower
# red fox Well im convinced

Its overall better; the only thing Mk IV does better than Mk IIIa is carapace dmg potential & big target dmg overall

steep flower
void dragon
#

What about the use of hotshot now that is fair and more balanced?

steep flower
#

But on Mk IIIa its is

covert fable
#

If you don't like the charge part of helbore, the agri combat shotgun kicks ass

void dragon
#

Golly

covert fable
#

Or is it 40%

steep flower
#

PHONE

covert fable
#

Hehe

steep flower
void dragon
#

Abominable inteligence moment

covert fable
#

I have been using combat shotty recently and it's been so fun with exe stance

#

I just aim in the general direction and win

plain osprey
covert fable
#

I'll be honest, I have died to more poxbursters in this week than anything

red fox
plain osprey
covert fable
#

I love it

#

The amount of bs freak events are hilarious

steep flower
covert fable
midnight wyvern
#

favourite part of the event

plain osprey
plain osprey
void dragon
midnight wyvern
#

me, flying at mach jesus into the void

midnight wyvern
plain osprey
steep flower
covert fable
void dragon
#

Papa only deals in worse-than-pepega teams

#

Finest rejects there in the MourningStar

unreal nova
unreal nova
#

Needs Evelyn/Crassus to help as well.

covert fable
#

You mean eleven

unreal nova
covert fable
#

Crassus reminds me of this

unreal nova
tame lodge
#

DETONATOR! I REPEAT! DETONATOR!

unreal nova
#

GOLD!!!

covert fable
#

mushroom.

unreal nova
#

Tunnel here! Pings. Lure plz.

#

If you know, you know.

covert fable
#

Yes

grand perch
#

We're rich!

covert fable
#

No fuel, no drills!

unreal nova
covert fable
unreal nova
covert fable
unreal nova
covert fable
#

Ahh

unreal nova
#

I basically modded my DRG so nothing really makes sense.

covert fable
#

No, that is something drillers days

covert fable
#

I had to uninstall that mod because it was starting to be annoying

unreal nova
covert fable
#

Oh

covert fable
unreal nova
covert fable
#

Ah

#

I'm glad they added modifiers

#

Hazard 7 is fun

#

Hazard 7 x 2

unreal nova
#

Isn't that a mod?

covert fable
#

Yes it is

#

It is brutal

unreal nova
#

Or did they add more diffs?

#

Oh. I just did cosmetic ones for most parts.

covert fable
#

they added modifiers ontop of hazard 5

unreal nova
#

Make shit easier to see and such.

covert fable
#

Ahh yeah

unreal nova
#

Or ehm, what the kark is the default twins colours?

#

They are the bloody same.

covert fable
#

huh

#

Are you talking about the twins from deeprock or darkride

unreal nova
#

I modded it so it's now red and blue.

covert fable
#

I believe its like orange and yellow

unreal nova
#

We are talking DRG rn, right?

covert fable
#

Yes

unreal nova
#

But yeah, they look basically the same in low light barring when one decides to fireball me.

covert fable
gentle lake
#

Gay

steep flower
covert fable
#

It is better to be single

#

I think

steep flower
covert fable
#

Yes

unreal nova
# covert fable Hm

I'm colourblind to a degree. Shades are an issue. Put two similar colours in a low light situation and they basically blend.

unreal nova
covert fable
#

I like to play with low gamma so it is dark

unreal nova
#

Best I see is the DARKEST bits showing up and everything else is light.

#

Is why I hate lights out and the 1 wound left filter.

covert fable
#

lol

#

Everytime I do a gun focused build and queue for a quick match, it seems to put me in a lights out game

sudden cedar
#

@unreal nova @covert fable pingryn

covert fable
#

@sudden cedar

unreal nova
unreal nova
sudden cedar
#

Sure..

#

@covert fable Play Auric Maelstroms, you will always see what you'll get as a Modifier.

covert fable
#

@sudden cedar true

covert fable
sudden cedar
#

Or in case of Events, the Event Missions of course.

#

Although, i say this with caution, as people sometimes queue blind into Auric Maelstrom and begin to complain about ammo in a scab only no ammo mission.

unreal nova
unreal nova
#

Extra funny if it's a gunker.

covert fable
unreal nova
covert fable
#

No thanks

steep flower
covert fable
#

oh my god

#

There is also nobody that plays in Africa so

#

It is a duo and 80% death rate

steep flower
covert fable
#

There was a guy doing penance tho

#

Then he realised he was on auric and left

steep flower
#

We shall not speak of him

covert fable
#

lol

unreal nova
covert fable
#

xD

unreal nova
#

So...

covert fable
#

What servers do you play on?

unreal nova
#

I can try central Asia, but that's GAMBLING. It's like 70 ping to 500 ping.

#

Every game, throw a d100.

final crystal
covert fable
unreal nova
covert fable
covert fable
# plain osprey

its okay my team would eventually shoot a barrel and kil me anyways

plain osprey
covert fable
#

yes

sudden cedar
#

You have disgraced yourself in the eyes of the emperor by giving yourself mercy instead of standing your groud and perish fighting the enemies of mankind.

covert fable
#

I die either way