Thing is oggy is the only class that takes nades
#veteran-class
dawn garnet
the thing is outside of a premade in havoc its not great
tropic notch
Arby regens
sudden cedar
I can see a use for both of the other grenades, but the price is too steep right now for what they offer.
dawn garnet
imagine banking on other people to be more useful than you in pubs, SAD!
steep flower
Vet will take demo team and stockpile
But being able to throw 2 extra shredders is good too
tropic notch
Tbh I wish that was baked in or something
sudden cedar
I've heard Shredders are the be all and end all on Veteran.
dawn garnet
does anyone here aside from kerien build grenadier vet?
tropic notch
Just bake in nade tinker
covert dagger
It seems a common theme that the people benefiting from support classes also tell people not to use them.
azure narwhal
I wish i could remember to use nades enough on vet to take both demo team and stockpile. Stockpile is enough for me, otherwise nades go to waste and i forget to do anything, i feel like kayex sometimes
dawn garnet
make it also give a random non med stim on use
slop max
keep giving it random bs until its good
tropic notch
It seems a common theme that the people benefiting from support classes also tel...
Depends on what type of support it is
Vet is actually the best support in the game
tall nest
It seems a common theme that the people benefiting from support classes also tel...
You can support the enemies to an early grave...
tropic notch
With born leader and out for blood
azure narwhal
Zased
azure narwhal
With born leader and out for blood
Taking ofb and confirmed kill makes me fraggin immortal! 
covert dagger
Shout doesn’t kill things … too situational.
tropic notch
sudden cedar
🤔
steep flower
does anyone here aside from kerien build grenadier vet?
Every vet build is a grenadier build tbh
sudden cedar
By that logic, Exec Stance does not kill things so its situational too.
azure narwhal
Shout doesn’t kill things … too situational.
You should hear about the poxbursters i been pushing this event 
sudden cedar
Oh and Infiltrate too.
covert dagger
Pushing doesn’t kill things. Too situational.
sudden cedar
And the baseline ability for veteran too.
azure narwhal
True
tropic notch
Pushing doesn’t kill things. Too situational.
Me when power sword
steep flower
Shout doesn’t kill things … too situational.
Ok i understood other takes as oof but this; mah man be ragebaiting 
sudden cedar
Just play without talents, after all, they don't kill things.
tropic notch
I two tap da crusher
covert dagger
Just play without talents, after all, they don't kill things.
Yup. All skill.
azure narwhal
I two tap da crusher
Push thrust into overhead, oops it died
covert dagger
The Conan Exiles forums are funny like that.
They have people claiming that a good player can solo the entire game with no armor and stone daggers.
Otherwise you’re not a good enough player.
It’s wild.
tropic notch
The Conan Exiles forums are funny like that.
They have people claiming that a g...
Reminds me of tanners sever
steep flower
The Conan Exiles forums are funny like that.
They have people claiming that a g...
A forgotten game 2
tropic notch
If you don’t set your penis on fire then you’re not good because uhhh JUST BECAUSE OK?
azure narwhal
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/ev...
Fun fact about the voidblast staff, the icon model in inventory is off centered to the bottom, so is the tube
This vexes me
steep flower
If you don’t set your penis on fire then you’re not good because uhhh JUST BECAU...
Otherwise its not hot
azure narwhal
I piss my pants everytime i see it
tropic notch
I mean sure I can do a havoc 40 duo probably
But I’ll probably be braindead afterwards
I’ve attempted solos
As Arby
Twins, 30 bulwarks, trapper, or cspawn would kill me
hybrid jolt
is the 20% chance to throw additional grenade worth?
unreal nova
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/ev...
No more terrible guides?
unreal nova
does anyone here aside from kerien build grenadier vet?
Difference is twinned or no twinned.
unreal nova
Shout doesn’t kill things … too situational.
When your 2 book zealots failed to ledge a boss but you shouted and it gets yeeted.
covert dagger
Good zealots would have jumped over it and shorted it with a revolver. While killing one of the twins.
steep flower
is the 20% chance to throw additional grenade worth?
Not much no
covert dagger
With no curios.
unreal nova
is the 20% chance to throw additional grenade worth?
For me, no. My avg is 15 throws per twinned. 57 throws in a row without a single twinned the highest.
covert dagger
Or talents.
sudden cedar
mortal aspen
finally woke
covert dagger
Can’t! I am getting it finally. This is how you play DT.
Auric Havoc 40 no talents, just revolver and duelling saber. Everyone who doesn’t have fun with that is just bad at the game.
While sitting on a scorpion.
Naked.
Otherwise you’re just dragging your party down.
mortal aspen
unreal nova
Can’t! I am getting it finally. This is how you play DT.
Auric Havoc 40 no tale...
Is that a new toy?
unreal nova
I think a scorpion stinger might be a fun shape as long the tip is blunt.
covert dagger
Dunno. It might hit the pelvis kinda hard.
But that’s the price of being a good player.
Otherwise why are you even logging on?
unreal nova
Dunno. It might hit the pelvis kinda hard.
Make it of softer silicone.
covert dagger
Wouldn’t it still push?
unreal nova
Wouldn’t it still push?
Not as much as training toys. The taper on those already STABS.
mortal aspen
tame lodge
Can’t! I am getting it finally. This is how you play DT.
Auric Havoc 40 no tale...
Chose the most sauceless melee
covert dagger
It’s meta! Meta is best. In all situations. With all other players. On all difficulties.
::sagely nod::
Also for every player.
covert dagger
I’ve said it before and I will again. Fat shark should just give every class one weapon and one build.
That’s great game design. And meta.
META!
Imagine how fast you could breeze through all the content. And then you can get all the achievements in another game you don’t like playing.
Duh.
Fun is for casuals.
azure narwhal
Tru
Jokes aside despite me not playing him much ogryn is chef's kiss
Fun to play, stuff just works regardless
You have to try really hard to mess up your build
A class where all 3 archetypes work well, impossible
azure narwhal
Hell yeah
covert dagger
I like a defensive shield Ogryn. You can push like no tomorrow. And then everyone else gets to kill the stuff on the ground and tell you that you suck on the third party mod scoreboard.
covert dagger
They used to have “Adult Swim” on Cartoon Network at night.
I love Space Ghost: Coast to Coast. And Sealab. And Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
plain osprey
But havoc meta is psword 6
How?
tame lodge
Kills everything really fast
mortal aspen
I like a defensive shield Ogryn. You can push like no tomorrow. And then everyon...
or you could bash and do all that while also killing
tropic halo
I haven't played Cleaver in a while
tropic halo
or you could bash and do all that *while* also killing
Until bosses come in and that thing sucks
red portal
Bleed bully club ftw.
red portal
FNP is kind of mid.
tropic halo
I never felt bringing it as Ogryn default resistance and few of his resistance talent nodes from top tree already does help a lot
covert dagger
So does legit nobody see the benefit of concentrating baddies in a specific area so teammates can kill them better?
I ask because I am starting to think none of you guys know what the tank role in a game is.
Or how it applies in this case.
Last time we talked about this someone dismissed it as “I’ll keep killing and just chuck a grenade in your general direction” or some such.
But like … that’s the point. Yes. The baddies are on me and you kill them. And then I move on to more baddies and concentrate them and you kill them.
Is this like … actually a foreign concept?
tropic halo
There is really no tank role in this game
red portal
So does legit nobody see the benefit of concentrating baddies in a specific area...
No what we are saying is you can do that and deal a shit ton of damage.
On top
tropic halo
Unless you just want to be Taunt Ogryn to take agro
covert dagger
Unless you just want to be Taunt Ogryn to take agro
Well. Yes.
red portal
FNP give you so little extra in terms of effective DR cause ogryn has DR out the ass allready.
covert dagger
Unless you just want to be Taunt Ogryn to take agro
Thats the Point.
That’s what tanks do.
red portal
That’s what tanks do.
No one argued against taunt gryn,
red portal
I said FNP is mid.
tropic halo
You can just take Go Again taunt and Confident strike on bully club and it already is such a bigger upgrade than FNP
While still be able to take the entire Atoma on your own without relying on teammates
ember nest
Co findent strike krourk 4 knife 🗣️
mortal aspen
So does legit nobody see the benefit of concentrating baddies in a specific area...
are you playing Heresy?
covert dagger
I like relying on my teammates.
ember nest
Simply be a lawnmower
mortal aspen
your "tanking" is pressing Taunt
that's it
red portal
I *like* relying on my teammates.
No one does cause teammates are unreliable
tropic halo
Then distract your enemies on radius while your teammate can also focus on others
red portal
The only variable you can control in a game is yourself
tropic halo
Full tank ogryn build is also kinda mid and underwhelming if you are not taking any dmg boost nodes
You gonna take hits but you are sacrificing the damage
red portal
You would still take bleed nodes even with the shield FNP build you just give up cleave/toughness Regen.
covert dagger
I love how people tell me how I am playing while telling me my builds suck and they’d never play them. And then trivialise an experience they don’t have.
ember nest
You people are arguing with a pile of bricks. Not even a wall. A pile.
red portal
I love how people tell me how I am playing while telling me my builds suck and t...
I have played FNP ogryn and you joined the conversation yourself this time.
mortal aspen
what difficulty are you playing, you still haven't said
you can take all the defensive talents on ogryn, that means you should be more aggressive because you can take more punishment
covert dagger
I play low levels. Where the game isn’t so broken that it takes 20 bosses to get interesting.
That’s the damn point!
mortal aspen
I'm not dissing FNP, I think it's good for pushing difficulty if you need extra survivability
ember nest
😭
tropic halo
I play low levels. Where the game isn’t so broken that it takes 20 bosses to get...
Thats the fun part of the game
tame lodge
You taunt enemies so your teammates can kill them
I taunt enemies so I can have more targets to kill
We are not the same
tropic halo
You taunt enemies so your teammates can kill them
I taunt enemies so I can have ...
true
tropic halo
You know what I am playing a match with my HH bleed shield build just for funnies
ember nest
Higui please more people are falling into the Skuli trap
tropic halo
(Gonna be boring with the moveset)
ember nest
Save them
covert dagger
You guys keep pushing meta meta meta. When it simply not necessary for the lower content.
And you lose people because you’re sucking the fun out of the game by pigeonholing every defs wicket and every run into one specific tactic.
ember nest
Memetic hazard type beat
tame lodge
mortal aspen
alright, I think he's actually trolling
tropic halo
Nobody said about meta but sure
mortal aspen
I get it now
ember nest
No he IS this stupid
tropic halo
Oh look, a 20 bosses mission to try my mid shield build
red portal
You guys keep pushing meta meta meta. When it simply not necessary for the lower...
We are not saying you can't run FNP for the last time we are just saying in 90% of cases you are better off running heavy hitter.
ember nest
There is no joke just 5 braincells in a demolition derby
sudden cedar
🤔
mortal aspen
Oh look, a 20 bosses mission to try my mid shield build
Rumbler goes brrr
tropic halo
It time
mortal aspen
I hate ripper so much
red portal
I love taunt gryn cause he gives me free backstabs.
ember nest
53RD PSYKER!!!! 🗣️
ember nest
How do yall make ripper work anyhow
covert dagger
The point is that on story mode we have people already skipping entirely canonic weapons to use whatever weird combo works on walls of crushers.
People are literally missing out on a ton of content and experimentation.
And that’s where people learn the deeper mechanics of a game.
These new players are not learning their limits or skills. Because all they do is copy whatever YouTube du jur tells them what they can do.
ember nest
It feels bad to me so I'm clearly doing something wrong
covert dagger
That is why I am mad at this constant “best” weapon business
mortal aspen
The horisontal ripper feels good vs hordes of elites. But fuck me, shooting anything farther than 10m with it is awful
even with the minimal pellet count mechanic
and the burst cancel tech is cancer, fuck that
tame lodge
How do yall make ripper work anyhow
First
Ammo dump, blessing shenanigans
Second
Raaaaah
red portal
The point is that on story mode we have people already skipping entirely canonic...
No people are not unlocking their true potential because they stay in their comfort zone instead of improving, you can do havoc 40 with off meta builds but you gotta have the mechanical skill to back it up.
mortal aspen
That is why I am mad at this constant “best” weapon business
it's not about weapons or builds
it's about playstyle
Shield is not a block weapon
it's a killing machine
ember nest
they are not learning new limits or skills
covert dagger
It’s not about playstyle if you’re telling everyone to use the same combo of weapons.
Not everyone has the same skill set.
red portal
I can run anything in havoc 40 and I would still live 3-4 times longer than the average heresy/damnation player.
mortal aspen
It’s not about playstyle if you’re telling everyone to use the same combo of wea...
who's telling you that
covert dagger
Some people are legit good at clicking heads.
Some people are great positioned a but not very accurate.
red portal
Some people are legit good at clicking heads.
Some people are great positioned ...
Yes and the head clicker should play vet or zealot and positioning guy should play flame staff psyker.
Lol
covert dagger
who's telling you that
You guys do. Every time someone comes in and asks for “tier” weapons.
mortal aspen
i mean, obviously there's meta
red portal
You guys do. Every time someone comes in and asks for “tier” weapons.
If someone asks for good weapons should people just lie?
mortal aspen
if somebody asks for the best weapon - they will get the answer
covert dagger
How about instead of “lying” we figure out what G is good at.
red portal
How about instead of “lying” we figure out what G is good at.
People will get multiple options of all usable weapons within their own niche.
ember nest
Memetic Hazard Yap
covert dagger
Like. Why would you tell a 13 year old CoD commando runner the same weapon combo is effective as a murderous Tarkov sniper.
ember nest
😭
mortal aspen
red portal
He's talking to himself
covert dagger
I ask. Do you legit not get this?
ember nest
ember nest
He has a .7 K/D against strawmen
covert dagger
I am asking you. Like. Do you see no merit at all in this thought process?
mortal aspen
I prefer strawomen
red portal
I am asking you. Like. Do you see no merit at all in this thought process?
Ok but you see none of what you are arguing contradicts anything we've been saying.
Except the improving at low difficulties
covert dagger
Then why do you tell everyone they should be using the same weapon combo?
ember nest
WHO
red portal
Saying x is generally better does not = not use y.
covert dagger
I give up.
You guys are being willfully ignorant at this point. Or completely unable to do metacognition.
Likely the second.
red portal
I give up.
You guys are being willfully ignorant at this point. Or completely u...
Man starts argument out of nowhere feeling personally attacked, because I said FNP is mid
It's ogre.
ember nest
Ask him what metacognition means
He has me blocked because I call him out on his idiocy too much
covert dagger
I have you blocked because you are a hateful little internet commando.
hollow ibex
It’s on nexus, it’s a mod yeah
red portal
Listen man there are people who are far more assenine about builds than me or any of the others talking rn, I'm saying no one is saying you can't run off meta and make it work.
ember nest
What is an internet commando is that like a "CoD commando"
tame lodge
Skitty
ember nest
Im sorry a "cod commando runner"
red portal
We're saying you are likely better off using what is strong and that you will have more success with it.
tropic halo
Holy bleak slab shield is so boring
covert dagger
I will wait in great suspense then when you guys explain THAT to a noob instead of telling them the “S Tier” weapon.
red portal
If FS buffed some of the guns with shit ammo economy maybe the havoc pool of usable weapons wouldn't be so ass. Maybe if the left behind weapons got some love would we see more diverse builds at the high end havoc's.
But it's not the game we have currently.
covert dagger
Now that would be a good copy paste.
ember nest
someone joins
"What blessings make X good"
"Erm try the dogshit blessings instead to hone ur skill"
edgy bane
Give Vigilant Autoguns Penetration
edgy bane
Yes
tame lodge
What do you mean by that
Like armor damage?
It has incredible flak finesse
A Maniacs buff would be more useful
ember nest
I think they wanna peirce carapce or smth
red portal
> someone joins
"What blessings make X good"
"Erm try the dogshit blessings in...
You should only use perfect block blessings it's the only way you will improve trust me bro.
ember nest
red portal
Thrust Limbsplitter Achlys Axe
Limb splitter slaughter spree tac axe.
It works trust me bro.
Some weapon blessing choices for certain weapons make no sense.
red portal
You should use continuous fire blessings on the rumbler
The weapon infamously known for continuously firing.
ember nest
Continous fire luckyshot meta 🗣️
mortal aspen
You should use continuous fire blessings on the rumbler
they do work
red portal
they do work
Damn 1-2 blaze away stack FS pls nerf.
mortal aspen
but aiming is haram, breaks the buff
red portal
Can't have this broken blessing in the game.
red portal
but aiming is haram, breaks the buff
Real ogryns don't know how to aim anyways
edgy bane
Gotcha. Dumping Stability on the Braced autogun in preparation for playing Ogrin.
tame lodge
That's the spirit
sudden cedar
Iam confused, what exactly is Skuli ranting on about?
mortal aspen
I don't think anybody understands
sudden cedar
Something about people playing meta builds, so much i've gathered.
steep flower
Iam confused, what exactly is Skuli ranting on about?
Hes memeing
sudden cedar
Yeah probably.
spice shard
Iam confused, what exactly is Skuli ranting on about?
he doesnt like that people are suggesting weapons based on the weapon and not the individual person skillset like we have their criminal record probably
spice shard
Hes memeing
hopefully
red portal
Cool.
red portal
Anyway, i continue to use Devil's Claw in H40 instead of the Dueling Sword.
Ok but if someone using the devil claw was struggling in havoc's and I suggested trying another weapon.
edgy bane
I like using the Devil's Claw Mk2. Had it since the beginning, and I like chopping heads off.
red portal
Would the reaction be that I insulted the devil claw.
ember nest
Hes memeing
You wish
sudden cedar
@red portal No. Of course it wouldn't.
stiff glacier
jcf its almost impossible to go through mission without crashing at least four times in the new event
red portal
<@155420997426610177> No. Of course it wouldn't.
Well I said fnp is mid and that you're better off running heavy hitter in 9/10 situations and he took it as me personally insulting his play style.
Even though he wasn't even active in the chat beforehand
red portal
<@155420997426610177> No. Of course it wouldn't.
Forgot to ping reply
sudden cedar
red portal
You actually can't make it up
ember nest
Average Skuli interaction
hollow ibex
jcf its almost impossible to go through mission without crashing at least four t...
skill issue
||the devs suck at their jobs||
red portal
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
This is what started it lol 😂
red portal
More like barely feel the difference cause your DR and TDR is already insane.
sudden cedar
Honest question tho, iam under the impression that there is no tank role as one might have in mind from other games in Darktide.
There might be a Frontliner yes, but thats about it.
sly orchid
Castigator's stance
sudden cedar
Crowd Control is important, that is true.
Castigator's stance is not really good.
Compared to what the other two can do.
tame lodge
Castigator's stance is not really good.
Although I respect the devs for the robocop power trip
fossil creek
Question: Right now I'm running a recon lasgun build with my vet. I am not sure which melee weapon to rock. I heard duelling sword is recommended, right now I'm using the assault chainsword. What are your recommendations? Is the chainsword even good?
sudden cedar
No it is not.
tropic notch
You guys keep pushing meta meta meta. When it simply not necessary for the lower...
I mean in the current state of the game especially on vet and zealot there is only one build
You can play off meta
tame lodge
Question: Right now I'm running a recon lasgun build with my vet. I am not sure ...
Chainsword is good
Against poxxers
tropic notch
But it’ll be hard
tame lodge
If you want something to hit harder against everything else
edgy bane
Power Sword should still be good.
tame lodge
Power Sword
Rashad Combat Axe
fossil creek
Awesome. Thanks.
sly orchid
Tactical axe
edgy bane
If you want to be funny. Devil's Claw, and remember that the counter special exists.
hollow ibex
make your build worse to make a shit weapon slightly less shit 
edgy bane
I'm a slave to Onslaught
tropic notch
I'm a slave to Onslaught
It’s bait sadly
barren cave
its too tax heavy
edgy bane
Yeah...
barren cave
skip it
just take bring it down and superiority complex, thats a big chunk of dmg boosts
red portal
Imagine playing zealot paying the bacon tax on top of fire nade tax.
azure narwhal
You gotta accept that some weapons just won't deal with cara, but that is not a problem if you think about how many melee weapons can deal with that
Onslaught is pretty bait
It always sounds nice
But it's literal bait
On a class that can barely afford shit
tropic notch
I *like* relying on my teammates.
My teammates blow up barrels and bursters on me I hate them
red portal
Fyre just reading the skuli lore rn
covert fable
WHO ARE WE BONKING
edgy bane
I'm running a variety of weapons for mastery, so Onslaught really is bait. But usually I run Recon las, or braced/infantry auto, where it isn't much of an issue.
azure narwhal
I'm running a variety of weapons for mastery, so Onslaught really is bait. But u...
I run recon too, i suggest, pick a decent single target melee weapon of your liking, and any time you see crushers and only for crushers frag on the ground, initiate melee. That's it, you can shoot everything else including maulers, their flak gets destroyed by recon
You don't have to tax yourself for onslaught trust
You're gonna regret it in the future
Otherwise though your pick
And it sounds like a big fuss over minimal talent points but on this class specifically it really is
tropic notch
This is what started it lol 😂
This is so silly
edgy bane
Trust me, I'm aware. Having finally completed all of Veteran penances, having enough points for a decent build for whatever weapon I'm running, and what I want is tough.
tame lodge
I'm a slave to Onslaught
You're running that with your recon, right?
So yeah Hsword will pair nicely
azure narwhal
But if you really are adamant on shooting everything in the game well yea onslaught is your best pick, you just gotta accept shooting cara even with onslaught is inefficient compared to a good bonk
tropic notch
Trust me, *I'm aware*. Having finally completed all of Veteran penances, having ...
It’s terrible don’t use it
azure narwhal
I wish hsword's special attack didn't look so goofy i can't lie
What in the spinning sword back stab....
edgy bane
I like Hsword. I had fun mastering it. I used the Mk9 version. Though what I find kinda weird is how weak its light attack is, even on literal trash fodder.
edgy bane
What in the spinning sword back stab....
As far as I'm aware, the strike with the backside of the blade is supposed to stagger. Effectiveness varies.
azure narwhal
It's good i'm just talking about the animation which is funny
But the weapon itself is good no doubt
Btw
edgy bane
Oh fair, lol.
azure narwhal
Regarding onslaught
Tip to boom things further
I cannot remember names well, but take the +15% close damage, and +10% melee and ranged damage upon ability use nodes, they're easy to get
Pop ability
Headshot carapace
You should squeeze in some more dps
If you're adamant on using recon to shoot cara that is
Also bring it down of course
That's a no brainer
edgy bane
That would be "For the Emperor!" (I just so happen to be looking at the talent tree right now)
azure narwhal
Yeah
It's that and
The one to the very right
On the way to onslaught
You can pick it and go down to onslaught
See, i remember the tree but not the names
It be like that
edgy bane
I like grabbing Duck and dive. But that's out of habit, and I also finally got the penances for dodging 500 shots while sprinting from Gunners/Reapers.
So I can give up that node.
azure narwhal
Ye
Duck and dive is okay but far from something you're losing out on big time
So you can def afford it
hollow ibex
yall can afford duck and dive on your builds?
grand perch
I wish
edgy bane
On the topic of Recon. Just how good is Infernus? To me, it seems like I would be sitting around with my thumb up my ass, waiting for a decent amount of damage. Meanwhile, I can pick a different blessing to kill something much sooner.
grand perch
I'm not giving up bring it down for dnd
hollow ibex
On the topic of Recon. Just how good is Infernus? To me, it seems like I would b...
one of THE meta picks
edgy bane
Guh
hollow ibex
infernus and dum dum are basically the defaults
taking anything else requires a very good reason...
muted peak
Does maniacs like bomber or ragers count as specials?
edgy bane
I take Headhunter for Shocktrooper.
mortal aspen
Castigator's stance is not really good.
💀
hollow ibex
I take Headhunter for Shocktrooper.
it's not worth it, you give up a LOT of damage
HH is one of those things that sounds good on paper
edgy bane
I'm not taking it for damage, it's for sustain.
hollow ibex
you don't need it
you have better sustain just by doing more damage, which is what dumdum + infernus gives
and vet already gets good crit chance through reciprocity
and you can also take survivalist
or even better yet, use your melee moer
because that'll let you do more damage than spraying recon into hordes
tame lodge
Does maniacs like bomber or ragers count as specials?
1 - Bombers are not maniac armor
2 - Yes bombers are specialist
3 - Ragers are maniac armor but Elite
edgy bane
I'm not spraying it into hoards for the most part. It's for Specialists/Elites/Monstrosities
red portal
Bombers and the unarmoured gunners are unarmoured right?
ember nest
Good
tropic notch
Bless his heart
red portal
Lol
ember nest
The cult of "blocked by skuli for realizing he's genuinely stupid" grows
azure narwhal
PILGRIM! THE BARRE- BOOOOOOOOOMMMMM
tropic notch
All I said was darktide is a movement shooter
ember nest
🤷
azure narwhal
All I said was darktide is a movement shooter
Darktide is ultrakill but 40k-d for my nerd liking
red portal
All I said was darktide is a movement shooter
Nah it's a tower defense game.
Can't believe you would lie to this man
tropic notch
Nah it's a tower defense game.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/evil-hatchetmancer will this help with the bulwark wave in the tower defense
edgy bane
For some reason, I though Tower Defense Map when I saw TDM. That would be a bizarre game mode.
Oh, I wasn't the only one, lol.
tropic notch
Darktide teamdeathmatch
Barreling free for all
red portal
I should make a games lantern account post the meta build but with 3-4 miss allocated points.
But why are most game lantern builds so terrible lol.
grand perch
is it time to talk about squad leader build again?
edgy bane
Bro, I need that Twinned blast node. It's part of the meta build!
red portal
Yes I'll take a no duelist no until death fire nade zealot build thank you.
H40 build
edgy bane
Stun nades OP
inland orchid
stun nades a life saver
red portal
And it also runs flamer with dash knife.
grand perch
Yes I'll take a no duelist no until death fire nade zealot build thank you.
we call not taking duelist "failing the intelligence test"
edgy bane
So... I'm not supposed to face tank as zealot...?
tropic notch
So... I'm not supposed to face tank as zealot...?
You dodge
steep flower
WHO ARE WE BONKING
bitches
tropic notch
And smack dem
unreal nova
Those make me froth at the mouth
HP stacking memes?
covert fable
Then general chat next
tropic notch
unreal nova
It's usable but man can it not be called meta.
I think my memes is more meta.
unreal nova
Triple hp stacking meta
Double. Need stam for knoife blocking and push attacks.
red portal
Double. Need stam for knoife blocking and push attacks.
True
unreal nova
But 21%+21%+5%+5%+5% yes.
tropic notch
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/ze...
Oh my god not him I hate him
red portal
Pay the flame nade and bacon tax now
tropic notch
You know him?
No but he is infamous for this build
red portal
Brauto
tropic notch
It sucks so much
red portal
It has over 300 upvotes.
Tbh most of those build making sites are the blind leading the blind.
unreal nova
It has over 300 upvotes.
Be a youtuber or streamer. Beg for upvotes.
tropic notch
Tbh most of those build making sites are the blind leading the blind.
It’s so true
red portal
Me when the super optimized build with number break downs has 2 upvotes and the one made by a guy high on copium has 2k.
unreal nova
Me when the super optimized build with number break downs has 2 upvotes and the ...
Is normal. All the okay builds get ignored.
Only Youtuber/Streamer trash gets upvoted.
spark helm
It's alright in Auric but can easily be better. Kind of fun to use tbh with the whole turning guns into toughness generators.
Wouldn't waste the resources for the curios to be 100% copied bare minimum.
red portal
I'm just sad it gets marketed as meta and not meme.
If I make a full hp stacking martyrdom zealot with stealth chain axe I expect to be made fun of unless I clearly mark it as a meme build.
spark helm
I generally just don't care about what meta means these days just off of how long I've been playing at this point. The only thing I haven't really done yet is climb havoc but I'm not bothering with this and wider community for that kind of thing. Too volatile on an individual temperament kind of deal. The neurotic folk of this game tend towards fuckery and I'm not here for that with strangers on the internet.
unreal nova
I mean, my h40 build is memes.
It kinda works, but I'm a jittery panicky lil creature so can work with 55 toughness.
spark helm
I might consult the site from time to time but so far I'm just fully in the experiment realm with copying some builds that seem interesting on paper.
unreal nova
Better if there's a shout vet boosting.
red portal
I generally just don't care about what meta means these days just off of how lon...
I mean new players are copying these builds expecting them to be good and then do less than what they could probably cook up on their own.
spark helm
Routinely just trash/ignore the ones that are just...no. lol
I'll work with just about anything. As long as I'm not fighting the build itself with overly inflated setup or just too much conflicting uptime on buffs or whatever, I'm fine.
tropic notch
Be a youtuber or streamer. Beg for upvotes.
I hate Mr E
spark helm
I mean new players are copying these builds expecting them to be good and then d...
I think the issue there is more of a lack of understanding of what build cohesion looks like yk? Like principally, what talents in combination produce. Average player isn't really here to read every bit if the build has detailed and genuinely solid explanations for why it's made the way it is. And honestly, even then the problem that most people I've noticed having even with strong builds is poor fundamentals for addressing intense issues.
tropic notch
“This thing is op I hate it” then he proceeds to use the op thing and still die
Come on now
unreal nova
I hate Mr E
I know.
red portal
I had shell shock when I dragged multiple true level 100's plus and they were scared of auric maelstrom.
spark helm
For my newer friends, I genuinely omit points about breakpoints and all that since it's just easier for people to absorb information on solid skeletons for builds rather than breaking down every bit.
red portal
For my newer friends, I genuinely omit points about breakpoints and all that sin...
For zealot remove the keystone here and you have the skeleton build.
tropic notch
Any time i here “tank build” “speed build” or “support build” i weep
tropic notch
For zealot remove the keystone here and you have the skeleton build.
Where thy wrath be swift
unreal nova
I had shell shock when I dragged multiple true level 100's plus and they were sc...
I mean, I still need mael penances lul. I don't do them unless ppl drag me.
red portal
Where thy wrath be swift
Where my dad left the milk
unreal nova
Any time i here “tank build” “speed build” or “support build” i weep
I sappart aurabot.
tropic notch
Where my dad left the milk
spark helm
So blessing combos that feel good before better optimization, talent templates that accomplish whatever interactions someone might be looking to make use of.
Feels better to show and tell people why something fundamentally can work the way it does goes longer than just "here is [insert great weapon/talent spread]"
tropic notch
Hi son
unreal nova
So blessing combos that feel good before better optimization, talent templates t...
But when it's, you can eat an overhead and not die instantly in H40... most ppl will question it.
Cos 1 hp and rest corrupted is still death.
red portal
Where thy wrath be swift
I just sent it to a new player left 3 talent points open to make them experiment. Not everyone wants to run thy wrath even though it's easily a take there.
spark helm
But when it's, you can eat an overhead and not die instantly in H40... most ppl ...
These are new players. Havoc isn't remotely close to being on their list. They just want to play and not die to basic specials and are still learning how to get used to certain scenarios.
unreal nova
These are new players. Havoc isn't remotely close to being on their list. They j...
Oh, then that thing is hilarious if you learn to work with base toughness.
Grims? Eh.
spark helm
So if I'm helping them out with questions, we're starting at basic horde melee management, how to start thinking about addressing target priority, emergency plays, rhythm of combos, manipulating enemy commitments, that kind of thing.
tropic notch
I just sent it to a new player left 3 talent points open to make them experiment...
That’s fair
spark helm
And with monstrosities it's like, me taking aggro on a plaguegryn and just showing them how to get into the groove of backstepping swings from the easiest mini boss in the game kind of deal.
Newer players in my experience tend to convince themselves that they can't take something on because they're just unaware of how to manage that kind of stress when it isn't in isolation kind of deal.
Goofiest seasoned players in my games tend to be people who know the strong builds, but don't exactly have the fundamentals down enough for the build to do more than carry them with ease of use or sheer output. So the average meta zealot that dies because they actually have no real concept of positioning is routine for me in aurics.
Or the vet that burns shout on a dime and happens to get lost in the sauce and pounced and flamered or whatever is just common for me.
unreal nova
Naw, just panic so hard, it is fine.
final crystal
Naw, just panic so hard, it is fine.
Happens often. ;p
unreal nova
Happens often. ;p
And whose fault is that?
spark helm
Usually, it's not even panic. It's just overcommittment/overextending kind of deal. Or overestimating the time they have to pull off something.
final crystal
And whose fault is that?
.> idk what you're talking about. <.<
unreal nova
>.> idk what you're talking about. <.<
unreal nova
Usually, it's not even panic. It's just overcommittment/overextending kind of de...
Oh, I usually play with crazy lag as well, so might explain it.
final crystal
spark helm
Usually, it's not even panic. It's just overcommittment/overextending kind of de...
Or it's the classic kruber/saltzpyre who just can't understand how to manage crowds without easier weapon combos and horde clear builds while being surrounded so they just kind of pray that any chip they take from the same slave rat is offset by their output.
Which is fine, if they can actually do it in time, but they'll develop poorer habits that'll get challenged and punished more in higher difficulties.
unreal nova
Or it's the classic kruber/saltzpyre who just can't understand how to manage cro...
The, you get one shotted if hit.
spark helm
So when the same scenario happens again, they're going to fall over immediately in cataclysmic or modded cata+ if that's their interest. Same in darktide though darktide is a much easier experience.
spark helm
The, you get one shotted if hit.
Exactly, yes. They may do the Kerillian special of dodging just to dodge because they're used to weapons and builds that provide that, but they still lack better basic defense.
So they'll overdo it, not knowing when to dodge more purposefully and catch a tracking overhead in the mouth lmao.
hybrid plover
Fatshark. Two handed shovel when?
Also things got.
Heated over last night it seems lmao
Or I guess a few hours ago?
unreal nova
Exactly, yes. They may do the Kerillian special of dodging just to dodge because...
Or just block more if needed.
spark helm
Yup
unreal nova
Better to eat the hit with your stamina than blep.
mortal aspen
blocking is much stronger in vermintide and should be used
blocking makes you invulnerable to singular chaos warriors technically
they can't do anything to you
and of course everything else, aside from bosses and specials etc.
unreal nova
blocking makes you invulnerable to singular chaos warriors technically
I know. Just point and laugh.
And then die to a random chaff.
final crystal
And then die to a random chaff.
I do that regardless
final crystal
I'll stick to my usual saying, I'm just trash at the game.
unreal nova
Just parry bruv
Can't parry your own explosion.
final crystal
Can't parry your own explosion.
It was three... or four times.
unreal nova
I watched him kill himself on psyker.
calm shard
blocking is much stronger in vermintide and should be used
yeah vermintide gets away with blocking and pushing being stronger because dodges are weaker
spark helm
blocking makes you invulnerable to singular chaos warriors technically
Granted in vt2 there's a universal mechanic that now exists in a single class and some select blessings through perfect block as opposed to vt2 parrt
mortal aspen
Can't parry your own explosion.
skissue
mortal aspen
yeah vermintide gets away with blocking and pushing being stronger because dodge...
true
spark helm
Kind of wish they actually allowed for parries to exist in this game like vt2 but whatever. They brought up parry melee weapons ages ago so I'm satisfied lmao
unreal nova
It was three... or four times.
SURE...
spark helm
And honestly, perfect block on some blessings and arbites doesn't feel too shabby to just have in the back pocket
mortal aspen
Granted in vt2 there's a universal mechanic that now exists in a single class an...
but you don't need to use it to block overheads
overheads don't pierce block like they do in darktide, so blocking is just generally much stronger
spark helm
I'm still a little confused why the melee specialist class doesn't have parry by default but oh well
unreal nova
I'm still a little confused why the melee specialist class doesn't have parry by...
That would be 5 classes.
final crystal
That would be 5 classes.
You're supposed to block?
spark helm
but you don't need to use it to block overheads
overheads don't pierce block lik...
I mean yes, you don't. I was just adding to why blocking is much more worth it compared to darktide.
And personally, unless it's super necessary or if I want something to just stop for a quick bit snd don't have other options available, I'm not blocking that overhead lol
Feels cool to do though but I'm also usually playing shit like dual daggers or something where uh.
Yeah nah.
unreal nova
I like my shields.
spark helm
They're pretty nice.
unreal nova
Shield and spear or shield and hammer.
spark helm
That would be 5 classes.
I mean zealot specifically lol
spark helm
*Shield and spear or shield and hammer.*
Unironically fatshark has made one of the most good feeling Spears I've ever played with in an fps
Fucking love fatshark polearms.
unreal nova
Fucking love fatshark polearms.
Why do you think ppl keep wanting them here?
spark helm
All I'm saying is...if there's something like that in 40k for a zealot or psyker?
unreal nova
Giff vet some long range pokey stick.
spark helm
Me absolutely eating that shit up
It took me a bit but I came around to crusher before I took a break on this game around the time havoc dropped. Zero clue what happened to it or if it was just one of those weapons that was always strong/stable and people ignored it.
tame lodge
Considering that spears are just cheap weapons
There should be just some generic for all classes
final crystal
All I'm saying is...if there's something like that in 40k for a zealot or psyker...
Inquisitorial Agents Kill Team set.
sly orchid
Now that jocken is on the fatshark team maybe he can cook something up with thomas
azure narwhal
All I'm saying is...if there's something like that in 40k for a zealot or psyker...
40k has endless possibilities of melee weapons, due to how power weapons work. The power field simply needs a shape to take, so it can follow any design
Power halberd, power katana, power spear, you name it
Same goes for chain weapons, really. Chain glaives are more common
bleak oasis
Surprised that we don't have bitch-basic spears, the oldest weapon of mankind.
But everyone gets a sword. Whether or not that sword happens to be a comically large bayonet or a proper one.
surreal rune
the closest thing to a polearm in darktide is the crusher, no?
bleak oasis
Would you count ogryn picks?
covert fable
the closest thing to a polearm in darktide is the crusher, no?
Ogryn pickaxe if you imagine hard enough
surreal rune
true
mortal aspen
the closest thing to a polearm in darktide is the crusher, no?
pushattack -> light uses the same animation as kerillian's glaive heavy 1 -> heavy 2
and possibly other animations too, but that's the most obvious one
so yeah
plain osprey
id love to see a spear in darktide
Chain glaive
steep flower
Chain glaive
I'm gonna nut
covert fable
someone stop him
sudden cedar
A favourite weapon of World Eaters and Night Lords.
Although also used in Astra Militarum Rough Rider formations
plain osprey
I'm gonna nut
Pls not in my direction
tropic notch
@steep flower he’s lying
sudden cedar
tropic notch
It came to me in a dream
plain osprey
He loves men
Dont project from you to me... In any way.
plain osprey
It came to me in a dream
The only thing that came in that dream was probably you...
While thinking of me
tropic notch
Dont project from you to me... In any way.
steep flower
The only thing that came in that dream was probably you...
While thinking of me...
YOOOOO THE BURN I EVEN FELT IT
plain osprey
I am straighter than the stick your dad used to beat you with
tropic notch
That made me kick my little feet in the air
plain osprey
YOOOOO THE BURN I EVEN FELT IT
Want'em crispeey
tropic notch
He doesn’t know
tropic notch
I am straighter than the stick your dad used to beat you with
It’s ok dude this is vet chat you can be gay here
Cuz vet is gay
plain osprey
It’s ok dude this is vet chat you can be gay here
Look at my bio. I am the least gay person youll ever find. The only reason i cant elaborate on my Position is because it would get me banned from this server....
Just drop the issue and come up with a more creative insult, this isnt 2007
tropic notch
Look at my bio. I am the least gay person youll ever find. The only reason i can...
I’m well aware 
He doesn’t know about my faith
plain osprey
He doesn’t know about my faith
And judging by your comments i dont wanna
steep flower
OK @plain osprey I may be better in this video game but You are MUCH better at burning others and not just heretics; I salute
tropic notch
And judging by your comments i dont wanna <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Back on topic why are you gay
plain osprey
Back on topic why are you gay
You tell me, since you know everything apparently...
Well, everything except how to shut up....
digital sinew
Are there any cosmetics with a mechanical arm/arms?
covert fable
how is a lvl 1 arby able to keep up with other people in auric xD
serene bough
Theyre probably a cracked player
tame lodge
Would you believe me if I told you that Darktide is a skill based game
You can do EVERYTHING if you have the skills to do so
unreal forge
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Chain_Glaive
we need a polearm in this game so bad
enough of swords and maces please
hybrid solstice
plain osprey
we need a polearm in this game so bad
What would you like the most?
buoyant pewter
I just want a hell gun and powerfist
hybrid plover
how is a lvl 1 arby able to keep up with other people in auric xD
Bcuz auric at level 1 is very possible if you're actually good at the game.
It's even possible in Havoc 40.
Just not nearly as likely.
unreal nova
Bcuz auric at level 1 is very possible if you're actually good at the game.
Bonus Arby has the best baseline stats.
void dragon
I just want a hell gun and powerfist
i want a new skill that let you pull a Hellgun, Rambo style, to gun down enemies as they approach, but what would be the niche for the power fist? is it a horde cutter or a elite crusher?
buoyant pewter
i want a new skill that let you pull a Hellgun, Rambo style, to gun down enemies...
My assumption is elite crusher
Very "I take this big thing out"
hybrid plover
Power fist with double barrel sounds like a good time.
buoyant pewter
Yessss
void dragon
Power fist with double barrel sounds like a good time.
The Doomguy at the Mourningstar
austere mica
I'd rather have a polearm of some variety
Powerfist feels like it would be vet thunderhammer
I at the very least want vet crusher
livid hill
its ironic that the helbore lasgun, the most strongly sniper based weapon in the game, has the worst sight picture of any gun
it sucks that they couldnt get customization in on time but what is genuinely shitty to me is that they gaslit everyone and pretended like it wasnt going to happen in the first place
void dragon
I'd rather have a polearm of some variety
the explosive lance that some riders have in the lore, but when you use the explosive special you have to "reload" to get a functional spear instead of a low damage quarterstaff
safe gate
Does the Vostroyan Helbore have better sights than the default skin?
tall torrent
Does the Vostroyan Helbore have better sights than the default skin?
it's ok
but it's currently bugged (misaligned sight)
may get fixed later
void dragon
it will be fixed in the same patch that introduce a bug that if you pick veteran the game crashes
void dragon
I was thinking more like an actual glaive
dont think there is a glaive like weapon in the lore, from the Explosive hunting lance i only recall the Mecanicus arc lance that could be added, if the obesefish makes a new class
austere mica
Catachan Dueling Glaive
Its even featured on recent (ish) models
Model
Singular
This idiot
void dragon
that do sounds promising
Veteran can take that and we give Ogryn the power knuckledusters then
solar valve
force knife for psyker
void dragon
I would be super happy with no extra weapon but the staffs get a new special for unique attacks for each staff type
dapper pier
Would you consider a castellan more zealot or veteran?
sudden cedar
They released a Sisters of Battle Kill Team Set with some nice weapons as well.
Sword and Shield or a Crossbow Bolt Pistol for example.
austere mica
Shield doesn’t really fit zealots class identity and crossbow bistol probably wouldn’t be meaningfully different
sudden cedar
That is on FatShark Carcharodon Gargantua to decide.
Arbitrators, according to their loadout, shouldn't have access to Chainswords and Chainaxes, yet they do.
austere mica
They don’t have Chaxe
Only chainsword
No idea why though
Not only does it suck, it also misses theme
sudden cedar
Right they have TacAxe
grand perch
aka the best axe
grand perch
the only reason to take make max height characters
austere mica
Right they have TacAxe
Axes make more sense as breaching equipment and are stylistically closer to maces and hammers
unreal forge
it sucks that they couldnt get customization in on time but what is genuinely sh...
customization would take away from the cosmetics 
99% sure that's the real reason it's not implemented
it wouldn't work with the cosmetics / they might think it would tank cosmetic sales
or too much effort to make everything work with cosmetics
sturdy crescent
the only reason to take make max height characters <:chadgryn:116114299821465609...
How do you even got this tall
grand perch
eat your veggies
plain osprey
eat your veggies
grand perch
helbore looks so weird without a blade
plain osprey
Everything looks better with a bayonet
plain osprey
bayonet on an LMG <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
Bayonet on nambu pistol
primal zealot
what did you call that revolver with brass knuckles and a bayonet on it
barren marsh
Is there such thing as a tank dps vet build?
azure narwhal
Is there such thing as a tank dps vet build?
"tanking" in this game is generally not the best of ideas (more of an ogryn thing) which even at that you're better off playing offensively. however vet has amazing toughness regen and great dps with the right weapons
is the closest answer imo
but that specifically
no
tanking stuff in DT is malice behaviour
barren marsh
"tanking" in this game is generally not the best of ideas (more of an ogryn thin...
Ok thank you
azure narwhal
movement is key
mortal aspen
Is there such thing as a tank dps vet build?
no, but vet with Shout and Iron Will is pretty tanky
barren marsh
no, but vet with Shout and Iron Will is pretty tanky
Nice
tame lodge
Is there such thing as a tank dps vet build?
Gold toughness
The best source of tanking in the game
halcyon blaze
Two veterans timing their shouts well, near constant golden toughness.
unreal nova
Is there such thing as a tank dps vet build?
Only in mortis, you roll colossus with that 50%TDR on 75% toughness or above, 3x shout, healing 'nades and 20 sec 'nade regen or free twin.
hollow ibex
Nope and that was a leak. Who knows if it’ll happen
grand perch
the fact people went ballistics over a fkn leak that was purposefully not implemented (because they realised those werent good changes before the patch) still upsets me
sudden cedar
Almost like it shows just how much of a crutch the plasma gun is.
faint beacon
the fact people went ballistics over a fkn leak that was purposefully not implem...
Unironically would’ve been one of the healthiest changes
Drastically toning down DS and making it a lightweight DC was also really cool but we will simply only see that happen in a dream
tall torrent
Unironically would’ve been one of the healthiest changes
Nah the plasma change made no mathematical sense
You’d have ended up with a weapon where the min damage parameter is higher than the max damage parameter for it to lerp
sleek garden
no, but vet with Shout and Iron Will is pretty tanky
Veteran can absorb a grand total of 2 hits in gold toughness before chip damage comes back
but surviving an overhead is a little silly
mortal aspen
you shouldn't be taking 2 melee hits in a row anyway
faint beacon
We say this yet we can see Arby face tank burster waves lmao
mortal aspen
well, he's special
lean vine
fellow guardsmen, could I trouble you for some wisdom. I'm going to do a weapon specialist "no reload" revolver build but I don't know how to get the max from the gun. Which is better the ADS or Braced version? (I think it's the ADS one)
tall torrent
fellow guardsmen, could I trouble you for some wisdom. I'm going to do a weapon ...
zarona mk2 (ADS)
lean vine
and what blessings and perks would be optimal?
sonic pecan
Did they give vet meltas and hellguns yet
mortal aspen
yes
sonic pecan
liar
tame lodge
and what blessings and perks would be optimal?
Handcannon if you're planning on shooting carapace
faint beacon
and what blessings and perks would be optimal?
Handcannon + Surgical for sniping with it
Handcannon + Pointblank for a quick reaction ranged follow up (mainly for heavy melee focused builds)
faint beacon
Cleave Targets for PS
Mobility for Shovel
unreal nova
Def or mobility for shovel.
hollow wadi
when making classes, am i building around the roles i want to play or the weapons? dumb question i know
unreal nova
Is up to taste for it, both work.
covert fable
Is up to taste for it, both work.
Isn't defence good for blocking ?
Push attack? I'm not sur
unreal nova
when making classes, am i building around the roles i want to play or the weapon...
Both. You think of what you wanna do, pick suitable weapons then find/make a build for those weapons.
void dragon
Defense is for push attack and sprint stamina cost usually, it doesn't factor stamina cost for blocking
unreal nova
Isn't defence good for blocking ?
It just reduces push cost by a tiny bit. Why to taste.
Either being dumped works.
covert fable
But more speed is also nice
void dragon
It's why crusher doesn't dump defense, its push attack is quite good
unreal nova
Or 70/70 meme.
hollow wadi
Both. You think of what you wanna do, pick suitable weapons then find/make a bui...
alrighty. i always did it by the weapon and i got no where with it since i thought i always needed to change my talents per weapon i pick.
covert fable
It's why crusher doesn't dump defense, its push attack is quite good
Yeah it's amazing
Crusher has to be the most satisfying on zealot for me
Relic blade second
void dragon
Relic blade has it's strengths but is kinda odd how it feels somewhat weaker than the power sword from time to time.
covert fable
It feels a bit clunky?
void dragon
It can feel like that, but in it's loop when it works it cuts though EVERYTHING, and it does while leaving bodies quite fast, even compared to Relic blade
If you don't get cornered it will clean house, so it's power has some dangerous drawback that I kinda like
" you will not survive being in the middle of a rager pack, but if you keep spacing yourself they will go down"
unreal nova
alrighty. i always did it by the weapon and i got no where with it since i thoug...
You build towards a goal in mind. Or haphazardly do one and have fun derping.
solid talon
So I usually use the revolver on my vet but have been thinking about trying out the bolt pistol. Any tips on the niche it fills as opposed to my trusty handcannon?
faint beacon
So I usually use the revolver on my vet but have been thinking about trying out ...
It enables a grenadier gameplay with a certain build but it’s basically just a side grade
tame lodge
Relic blade has it's strengths but is kinda odd how it feels somewhat weaker tha...
Because it is
Sorta
Brutal Momentum moment
Or sunder moment
tropic notch
Yeah I prefer the activation like the ps has
Imagine if relic had sunder
And pc
faint beacon
If it had sunder then that would be incredibly powerful but hilarious
faint beacon
Mk2 Value
tropic notch
Mk2 would be amazing lol
tame lodge
Oh yeah
tame lodge
Wrath
tropic notch
Fun and games
tame lodge
void dragon
Feels more to it, sure, it can sweep about as fast but the Psword feels more juicy Vs elites than the FRIGGING 2HANDED SWORD! what's next? ObeseFish released the legendary 2handed axe but is worse than the chainswords in every aspect?
(actually now that I think about it MorbidlyobeseShrimp might do that, and a bug that crashes your game if you press "W")
tame lodge
Honestly if they added 2h Chainaxes it should be extremely good at single target and whatever at multiple
Oh shit
Thunderhammer
solid talon
It enables a grenadier gameplay with a certain build but it’s basically just a s...
Ahh gottchu, thanks!
Also any tips on combat knife gameplay? I'm trying it out on my zealot but it seems a lil underwhelming. But it is like.... unmastered and a brand new one
faint beacon
Also any tips on combat knife gameplay? I'm trying it out on my zealot but it se...
If you’re using it on Veteran Mk6 is objectively better
Precog + Uncanny
Mk3 is better on Zealot imo
faint beacon
Typically cause Zealot tends to excel in Single target with the Mk3, though they can use the Mk6
Veteran with the mk6 is given more QOL seeing the Push attack is singular target but heavies can deal with hordes admittedly mediocre
solid talon
Thanks a ton ❤️
grand perch
the one time i bring kraks on a build and they got karking intercepted
tall torrent
Relic blade has it's strengths but is kinda odd how it feels somewhat weaker tha...
It just is straight up weaker than the power sword
solid talon
I like that I don't need to hit the alt button every like.. 3 swings, doing that for power sword just feels so bad for imo
barren cave
i hate the ps
covert fable
the one time i bring kraks on a build and they got karking *intercepted* <:stare...
Lool
barren cave
just because I hate hitting special so much
at least gimme the block on activation from relic blade
void dragon
One active for a very ded Crusher and some poxwalkers cut in half isn't a bad deal
barren cave
ds4 seems even more busted than usual as I read that sentence
void dragon
at least gimme the block on activation from relic blade
Proof that comfort can be a measure of balance over actual power
void dragon
DS yeeting itself away from harm because it is speed
Seriously, the dodge distance feels quite absurd compared to most things
barren cave
i just hide behind the ogryn with the rumbler spam and the arbitrator with the infinite impact nades with my speed and kill some specials
tall torrent
Seriously, the dodge distance feels quite absurd compared to most things
It shouldn’t have dodge template override
void dragon
It shouldn’t have dodge template override
I'm the dumb one, I don't know what "dodge template override" means
tall torrent
I'm the dumb one, I don't know what "dodge template override" means
Overrides the class’s base dodge template
So for example
Veteran base dodge template has 2.5m dodge distance
void dragon
Veteran base dodge template has 2.5m dodge distance
Wait, so the dodge of any class using the DS is unnaturally lengthy because is giving it an entire different, more cool, one than any other weapon can achieve?
tall torrent
Wait, so the dodge of any class using the DS is unnaturally lengthy because is g...
duelling sword overrides it to 2.75m base
then the +% dodge distance stat scales from that
void dragon
then the +% dodge distance stat scales from that
Even in dodges there is power creep
grand perch
im sure there's other stupid mechanics like this we dont even know about yet
like, i dunno, ogryn has an innate burn damage modifiers but no way to apply burns outside mortis so no one noticed it yet
sudden cedar
In line with Ogryn behavior.
hybrid plover
Veteran with the mk6 is given more QOL seeing the Push attack is singular target...
I do wanna add to this point. Having a stam delay node is particularly effective on mk6 because of that push attack.
tropic notch
It shouldn’t have dodge template override
What else has overrides?
tropic notch
Guh
void dragon
Tac axe
taxe too? nothing remains pure, we are descending into the dishonest age of Darktide
tall torrent
taxe too? nothing remains pure, we are descending into the dishonest age of Dark...
Tac axe had the same dodge template override as duelling sword
hybrid plover
i do not understand the insistence of some players walking up to a congo line of poxbursters while you're already firing at them
narrow widget
i do not understand the insistence of some players walking up to a congo line of...
so that they can turn around and say you're responsible for their deaths
faint beacon
i do not understand the insistence of some players walking up to a congo line of...
Some people are just Deaf I swear
the comically loud ticking around the corner and they still walk into it anyways
upper bluff
evening all, im getting back into this game after a long while of not playing it. does anyone have a good veteran plasma and combat axe build?
hybrid plover
so that they can turn around and say you're responsible for their deaths
that's exactly what happened
hybrid plover
Some people are just Deaf I swear
here's the thing. silent poxbursters are a thing. but i know damn well they were not silent in this case
i'm already firing at them, they're staggered and all, and then below the sight of my gun, there they are, trying to push nine poxbursters which was going to end badly even if i didn't shoot lmao
"thanks"
like
are you deadass
faint beacon
See I promptly respond "Then dont stand there dipshit"
Like if you actively see me give you ample time to back up
you better back up
LMAO
hybrid plover
they didn't even stand. they deliberately went up there
as I was taking care fo it
like what else can i even do at that point
faint beacon
Apparenlty be the reason for a death I guess and not someone's general stupidity
hybrid plover
🤷
tranquil ledge
Controversial opinion: the fastest firing auto gun is better than the fastest firing recon lasgun
azure narwhal
As someone who usues neither this statement is fire
Jokes aside, i don't see braced autoguns get much love, dunno though
My bolter is my favorite full auto gun
Bolt bolt bolt
halcyon blaze
Controversial opinion: the fastest firing auto gun is better than the fastest fi...
Tbh I'd agree, with the right build the lightest inf autogun feels ready good, and is less annoying to your team than the fast recon.
sudden cedar
@hybrid plover You let natural selection take its course and watch.
tranquil ledge
Tbh I'd agree, with the right build the lightest inf autogun feels ready good, a...
Yeah the only problem is the ammo reserves are pretty damn low
Only issue I got
void dragon
Controversial opinion: the fastest firing auto gun is better than the fastest fi...
As themselves alone? Probably, when you factor stuff like ammo saving from shock trooper, armour breaking from onslaught and damage from infernus that is amped by onslaught too? that sounds quite bold good Sir. You would need to provide quite the evidence to support such a claim (infantry autogun seems to be able to keep up in damage due its good crit and weak spot values, but still feels that the other advantages of the Recon lasgun are plenty good)
