No. Even pen dump ds5 is shorter dodges.
#veteran-class
south spindle
Bit saucy for a public chat aint it? 
hybrid plover
No. Even pen dump ds5 is shorter dodges.
really now
unreal nova
really now
Could look for the maths.
unreal nova
But it was like 2.75+15% for ds5 vs 3.25+12% for knoife.
unreal nova
Might be higher for knoife. I need to find path's post.
hybrid plover
yeah now i'm actually curious about this
boreal goblet
Meh but it really feels like knife will have what I'm missing for the recon las build; from what your saying being able to distance and kite. That was my main issues with crushers and maulers during the event I couldn't kite them all.
I wish infantry las was better
hybrid plover
Meh but it really feels like knife will have what I'm missing for the recon las ...
yep. heavy attack move tech makes you a speed demon
it is very good for repositioning
and vet benefits from that a lot
unreal nova
3m +11% vs 2.75m +15%.
hybrid plover
again i made this hot take earlier and i will make it again
i prefer knife over dueling sword
if all else, it's just more fun
unreal nova
But tbh, if you had a normal DS dump, it is lower. It's also lower if you def dump.
You probably need to meme to try to beat it.
boreal goblet
I need to find this move tech
unreal nova
I need to find this move tech
Heavy while sprinting.
hybrid plover
that is literally all you do
unreal nova
Just spam it with a certain beat.
boreal goblet
Then I've been doing it a lot then lol
unreal nova
Is 100% easier on knoife than doing on ds4.
boreal goblet
What about crushers and maulers
Any tips for them with a knife? Or just barf then down like I do now
hybrid plover
yeah. if lacerate, get your non weak spot hits in to proc bleed and then push attack
boreal goblet
I just want my heavy eviscerator from zealot
I want the chain sword to be good
Alright thanks for the info
Gotta go back to work
unreal nova
Chainsword lul. Trauma using it on psyker being brought back up.
final crystal
Chainsword lul. *Trauma using it on psyker being brought back up.*
But why?
unreal nova
But why?
Random build challenge. Poke Beans for one.
Had BB, Crits, bubble, DD.
EK+chainsword.
final crystal
Random build challenge. Poke Beans for one.
I have a hard enough time keeping up withe the major builds yall do. Can't be arsed with challenge builds.
unreal nova
Desperado?
Good stuff, if you dodge alot.
boreal goblet
I know onslaught is kinda mandatory
unreal nova
I know onslaught is kinda mandatory
Wot. Onslaught is memes.
boreal goblet
Good stuff, if you dodge alot.
Nah the 25% melee fineese
boreal goblet
Wot. Onslaught is memes.
For recon laz; 40 percent rendibg
unreal nova
You path those 2, get toughness then the aspd then WS.
boreal goblet
It feels like it makes a diffeence
unreal nova
For recon laz; 40 percent rendibg
Still memes. Shooting crushers is always a meme.
boreal goblet
Wait is Focus target bad now?
unreal nova
It does increase damage, but the ammo cost for havoc will hurt.
boreal goblet
Ahh
unreal nova
Wait is Focus target bad now?
Naw. Is better if you have a proper team to whale on bosses.
boreal goblet
AHHH
unreal nova
It's okay otherwise if you use it to breakpoint kill.
boreal goblet
Anyway gotta get off my phone; in lab
hybrid plover
petition to get tox bombers to fuck off pls
unreal nova
petition to get tox bombers to fuck off pls
That's two Bistol shots.
hybrid plover
tom bradying bombs from the netherrealm
spring ocean
petition to get tox bombers to fuck off pls
hybrid plover
i just got chain grabbed between two chaos spawns
four times
i was not even given a single frame to dodge
that's. a new one
unreal nova
i just got chain grabbed between two chaos spawns
No teammates?
hybrid plover
No teammates?
they all died
two purge psykers that folded like paper and an arbites
unreal nova
two purge psykers that folded like paper and an arbites
Arby going down, wot.
hybrid plover
i couldnt tell you
unreal nova
i couldnt tell you
This better be havoc. But I feel like it isn't.
unreal nova
Oh. Still expect one to last longer unless it's oops off map or the big fan.
sudden cedar
@unreal nova Arbitrator is sadly luckily not a free carry class. Even with that you can fuck up
sudden cedar
Maybe.
sudden cedar
According to my steam page news entry, vacation's over for the Swedes
midnight wyvern
202025 is when the update is coming
unreal nova
<@229302123391614976> Arbitrator is ~~sadly~~ luckily not a free carry class. Ev...
As the last person, yes.
sudden cedar
Even before that.
Or you wouldn't have that many crying for ammo or healing
Like a little b..
ahem
midnight wyvern
Or you wouldn't have that many crying for ammo or healing
sudden cedar
midnight wyvern
what
sudden cedar
Could also be a general thing, i don't really pay attention to those.
midnight wyvern
guys, rumblergyn isn't strong because it needs ammo
unreal nova
Or you wouldn't have that many crying for ammo or healing
I never ask for ammo unless at least at 50% pool left. HP is skill issue or eating overheads due to lag. Or just unlucky trapper hitting through walls.
sudden cedar
Can i say this without sounding mean...
But you are a special case that is forced to play with horrific lag due to servers and player availability
normal bay
guys, rumblergyn isn't strong because it needs ammo
Needs ammo? You get a free round every time you kill 9 heretics in melee
sudden cedar
If we take a player with stable connection and minimal lag, eating overheads is in most cases a skill issue
midnight wyvern
Needs ammo? You get a free round every time you kill 9 heretics in melee <:KEKW_...
yes its sarcasm because of the dumbass comment about arbites not being a free carry class because it might need ammo
lmao
unreal nova
If we take a player with stable connection and minimal lag, eating overheads is ...
To be fair, sometimes the lag is how it didn't hit me as well. Only Tzeentch knows what is going on.
sudden cedar
I concede that
midnight wyvern
To be fair, sometimes the lag is how it didn't hit me as well. Only Tzeentch kno...
Tzeentch caused the lag
sudden cedar
Sometimes we take hits that simply shouldn't happen
unreal nova
Tzeentch caused the lag
Who knows. If it amuses him, it happens.
midnight wyvern
Sometimes we take hits that simply shouldn't happen
my favourite is mutants grabbing me when they're like 5m away, on the opposite side of the arm they grab you with
normal bay
Sometimes we take hits that simply shouldn't happen
That one poxwalker that walked up behind you to bodyblock while all 8 maulers decided to throw overheads one after the other...
midnight wyvern
That one poxwalker that walked up behind you to bodyblock while all 8 maulers de...
sudden cedar
Yeah annoying stuff like that
unreal nova
my favourite is mutants grabbing me when they're like 5m away, on the opposite s...
This is normal, like eating an overhead 3 knoife dodges away.
sudden cedar
Or like .. you get netted through a fucking container because that is apparently not solid for net projectiles
hybrid plover
I never ask for ammo unless at least at 50% pool left. HP is skill issue or eati...
i cant imagine how that is for you since shit like this will still happen to me even on a good connection
unreal nova
Or like .. you get netted through a fucking container because that is apparently...
I mean, netted through a wall happens.
sudden cedar
@hybrid plover Hitbox issues.
midnight wyvern
unreal nova
i cant imagine how that is for you since shit like this will still happen to me ...
Throw a d100.
sudden cedar
It is extremely annoying
sudden cedar
Last Havoc Mission, we had an Ogryn get netted through a door frame while he was hiding behind it and the wall next to it
still somehow hit him
unreal nova
still somehow hit him
Happens to any class.
unreal nova
I know cos that BS also hits me alot.
sudden cedar
Bigger hitbox yes
unreal nova
And I'm on a human class.
midnight wyvern
I know cos that BS also hits me alot.
you've also said you're on high ping though
no?
unreal nova
you've also said you're on high ping though
300 + usually. Unless local.
Going from 5 ping to 300+ is funni.
midnight wyvern
unreal nova
You go from near point blank mutie dodges to having to dodge like a distance away.
And is still a gamble.
sudden cedar
Rubberbanding too?
midnight wyvern
lol
unreal nova
Trying to clutch then is hell.
Everything is teleporting and I might randomly DC and you are all dead?
Yes.
GDI.
surreal rune
the friendly moments of the cadian veteran make all of the shouting worth it
spring ocean
i cant imagine how that is for you since shit like this will still happen to me ...
funny net moment where a sliver touches you and therefore you get netted
most obnoxious shit ever in darktide, I have to say out of experience of dealing with it
hybrid plover
it's the fact that it looks like the net actually goes around the corner too
midnight wyvern
I hope they include a fix for auric in the patch they do soon
getting tired of this lol
mortal aspen
funny net moment where a sliver touches you and therefore you get netted <:KEKW_...
you discovered hit boxes 
spring ocean
unreal nova
how do you unlock the secret mode
Ring the bells a specific number of times in order. Or complete the secret auric only hard mode, will also unlock the bell skip.
unreal nova
you mean if I join someones game
Someone hosting it with the skip.
barren cave
i see
unreal nova
Then you win it.
barren cave
what is the skip
unreal nova
You see a string of numbers in the middle of the run?
barren cave
no
unreal nova
Write that down and ring all the hidden in plain sight bells in order to that.
barren cave
barren cave
if I just join someone who has it unlocked i dont gotta do all that?
barren cave
okay, then its just boss fight right
unreal nova
Mhm.
barren cave
hmm
unreal nova
Extra bs, extra hard.
barren cave
but isnt there a penance for doing the "puzzle"
do I get that by joining someone elses game
unreal nova
You get it as well if you beat the secret hard mode.
barren cave
oh nice
unreal nova
Or just do the puzzle.
midnight wyvern
Extra bs, extra hard.
extra fun
barren cave
so basically, all I have to do is find someone who has it unlocked, and clear the fight , and I get the penances for all the secret mode and puzzle stuff
midnight wyvern
I happened to QP into it and a random did the hard mode and we still did it
shrimple as
midnight wyvern
so basically, all I have to do is find someone who has it unlocked, and clear th...
or just do the not very difficult puzzle
lol
unreal nova
I happened to QP into it and a random did the hard mode and we still did it
I mean, some guy asked for it on heresy, we were 3 man and offered to try auric hard mode for them.
First try, all of us laughing.
barren cave
or just do the not very difficult puzzle
yeah but I have to clear the fight anyway to get the secret difficulty cleared penance
barren cave
so might as well just join someone and get them both at once
instead of doing the puzzle myself
midnight wyvern
and rely on someone having it when you could do it yourself
barren cave
yeah? and?
unreal nova
so might as well just join someone and get them both at once
Thing is, nobody hosts that other than if you request Ainz.
Most newbies just want a clear and will even just drop to uprising for help.
barren cave
also when you say skip , it skips the entire mission and you just have secret mode fight?
unreal nova
also when you say skip , it skips the entire mission and you just have secret m...
The last fight.
barren cave
damn I didnt know you could skip the map
unreal nova
You lose out on the mats though.
midnight wyvern
barren cave
theres plenty of time to farm mats
barren cave
the only perfect weapon Im missing is plasma
everything else is good to go
oh and Im missing max toughness curios on ogryn
how hard is the fight anyway
im pretty sure it came out way before havoc, cant be that hard
midnight wyvern
its a good challenge if the team is set up for it
vet and psyker are probably the ones that would struggle the most to be effective
99% sure rodins plasma is a scripted 1 shot of toughness so your gold isn't going to mean much lol
unreal nova
99% sure rodins plasma is a scripted 1 shot of toughness so your gold isn't goin...
Is why I do not vet on high ping there.
Moment Rodin wants to shoot me, I'm dead.
midnight wyvern
also their shield burst can and will kill people in that arena
not hard mode related
but it will happen
unreal nova
Warning is too late to dodge.
barren cave
its easy enough on auric
unreal nova
its easy enough on auric
You forget 300+ ping.
barren cave
the hard part on auric is just someone getting swarmed by ragers and maulers and not paying attention because they are fixated on twins
midnight wyvern
I mean go for it on whatever you want, just telling you how it is lol
they hit hard and there is many bros
Arbites with shock mines is a god send
barren cave
also ive noticed pbb achyls absolutely destroy the shields, on auric at least
midnight wyvern
tauntgryn is great
yeah shock maul would do it too, they're not too much of a concern since twins don't spam regen shields
barren cave
can you unlock the puzzle on sedition
and what exactly do you do, you see random strings throughout the map and uh? ring some bells?
barren cave
yeah il check it on yt
unreal nova
The number of rings is always the same.
steep flower
also ive noticed pbb achyls absolutely destroy the shields, on auric at least
in havoc too
steep flower
99% sure rodins plasma is a scripted 1 shot of toughness so your gold isn't goin...
it always has been; same for captains
the shield bash can be blocked... but you lose all stamina; i would change only that cause its important for example when you'll be reviving teammates
steep flower
also ive noticed pbb achyls absolutely destroy the shields, on auric at least
all it takes is a good build
and tbh; its kinda non-obvious for achlyss
when i show the build to ppl they are most of the time surprised
calm shard
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/13366192182795784012/D54CA49E0B0ECDA095FF2E...
the AMMO tho
actually probasbly fine
if it's just a melee build that coincidentally takes PBB+Achlys
rending not fire?
steep flower
if it's just a melee build that coincidentally takes PBB+Achlys
i mean mk4 cleaver on its own is good; tenderizer & slaughterer so you can deal with singular elites by spamming special - light - light
steep flower
rending not fire?
cause crushers only; fire is better but you lose to crushers hard so you go for rending
calm shard
I feel like that could be solved by using a weapon that does better into crushers
or the brittleness in middle tree
but also like it's ogryn you actually get to make choices like that so
it's not like there's an objectively correct solution to it
steep flower
your ability is for quick dps in important situations
steep flower
or the brittleness in middle tree
not enough points; you need soo many in the right side you can atleast afford no hurting friends
barren cave
isnt fire better into bulwarks also
like your pbb is just dead if theres a bullwark wall with rending right
calm shard
yeah fire would be better into everything except for crushers and captains
south spindle
Any dot is at least servicable into Bulwarks
steep flower
isnt fire better into bulwarks also
it is; but you lose to crushers and you wont penetrate through them so anytime they will come you will lose hard cause they just body block you
south spindle
Ofc Electrcity Dot is bestest coz stunlock
unreal nova
Any dot is at least servicable into Bulwarks
Why I instantly missed serrated blade when I went another build.
barren cave
do you improve much against crushers with rending node though, how much rending does it give you again
south spindle
Why I instantly missed serrated blade when I went another build.
Yeah, for such a small tick it massively pulls its weight against a lot of targets
steep flower
like your pbb is just dead if theres a bullwark wall with rending right
twin link always was loosing if there are multiple bulwarks yes but thats what you'll have to cope with - or wait till they open up by attacking
south spindle
Shock Maul is very worth playing for anti-shield properties against those enemies tho
unreal nova
Yeah, for such a small tick it massively pulls its weight against a lot of targe...
Was the only think making bulwarks less bs.
steep flower
do you improve much against crushers with rending node though, how much rending ...
15%; its enough to be better than fire
south spindle
Try Shock Maul, seriously, the thing can do work
steep flower
especially when you get cornered
south spindle
If you have Serrated also, funny double DoT
unreal nova
Try Shock Maul, seriously, the thing can do work
Nu. Knoife.
barren cave
flesh tearer prob, not lacerate
steep flower
If you have Serrated also, funny double DoT
its nice but maul is 2 slow for serrated to be perfect on its own
steep flower
flesh tearer prob, not lacerate
both good
south spindle
its nice but maul is 2 slow for serrated to be perfect on its own
Yeah you need the attack speed node for sure
barren cave
also I guess taxe is great with serrated too
south spindle
Its still surprisingly competant tho
barren cave
unfortunately, I cant afford serrated on my ws build
unreal nova
flesh tearer prob, not lacerate
Mercykiller. Runs away.
barren cave
unless i dont take shredders maybe, or if i dont take shout
south spindle
Mercykiller. *Runs away.*
Thats probably the move in all honesty coz serrated just straight up removes the conditional damage aspect what Precognition has
No need to dodge and its already gonna have bleed stacks as soon as you hit it, straight profit
south spindle
Is Precog' any better?
barren cave
cant you take ft and uncanny strike on knife vet
south spindle
I thought Finesse = Weakspot (ofc crit as well)
calm shard
yeah finesse is crit and weakspot
steep flower
is boltgun a good alternative to plasma gun in H40
yes; always has been
unreal nova
unfortunately, I cant afford serrated on my ws build
This is my secret not so secret terrible build I use seriously.
barren cave
lemme pull out mine so I can compare
limber bane
yes; always has been
it just straight up one taps scab gunners if you hit a headshot right?
unreal nova
You technically have 2 free points in Field Improv and Born leader.
steep flower
especially for this build
and for sure vs that build 
limber bane
unlike plasma
barren cave
You technically have 2 free points in Field Improv and Born leader.
i dont like those
unreal nova
i dont like those <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Is why I'm mentioning you have 2 points to dump somewhere.
barren cave
right
steep flower
it just straight up one taps scab gunners if you hit a headshot right?
its not about 1 taps; its about what it can do overall; in havoc you should not pay attention to breakpoints that much due to numbers being so high; its about efficiency
limber bane
other than that what does the boltgun offer over plasma?
barren cave
other than that what does the boltgun offer over plasma?
better fx
limber bane
i only pull it out to snipe gunners/reapers that are too far away for dueling sword
barren cave
the noises it makes are significantly more appealing
limber bane
and very occasionally for horde clear if we are getting overwhelmed by a flak horde or smth
hate that headshots don't one tap gunners on plasma gun
i guess that's the price you pay for it piercing through everything and being easy as hell to play
unreal nova
right
Cos I know some ppl hate them. But is like, I can have serrated and WS while getting survivalist and gold shout.
steep flower
other than that what does the boltgun offer over plasma?
better dps, better ammo economy, better boss dmg, better reload (if you use tac reload which you should), better longevity (due to heat mechanic for plasma; 8 shots and your ability to delete shit is lowered cause you have to vent)
barren cave
This is my secret not so secret terrible build I use seriously.
this is how I setup ws, mainly because I need the ws penance
steep flower
is boltgun a good alternative to plasma gun in H40
Use this with Boltgun & thank me later 
unreal nova
this is how I setup ws, mainly because I need the ws penance
I did it on my 'nadier build. XD
barren cave
lol
i wanna play keystoneless vet for nades but last penance i have left on the class is ws
might as well finish it off first
limber bane
Use this with Boltgun & thank me later <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
no desperado?
unreal nova
I dont the first subnode on ws is doing anything special
That was lazy 2 reload? Get it.
Or just learn to reload cancel or just time reloads better.
barren cave
I mainly took it because on your toes seemed good
the one below reload
Idc about the reload one much, i dont mind managing reload
unreal nova
Ah. I CBA. Get lucky or die, yes?
steep flower
no desperado?
NOT NEEDED
unreal nova
But might be crazy dodge spam.
barren cave
grenade tinkerer is good on shredders right
limber bane
NOT NEEDED <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
I took out a 5% crit node and +25 toughness node to pick up one motion and tac reload instead
will try how that goes
unreal nova
grenade tinkerer is good on shredders right
Yes, with bistol Lethal...
Boom room yes!
steep flower
no desperado?
this notion that 'every build for vet has to have reciprocity & desperado OR even trench fighter drill' is pepega; you don't need it; in alot of cases is talent spending for stuff you don't really need helping with
steep flower
I took out a 5% crit node and +25 toughness node to pick up one motion and tac r...
on what build?
unreal nova
this notion that 'every build for vet has to have reciprocity & desperado OR eve...
I knoife with Trench Fighter lul.
barren cave
hmm, I could take 5% health and grenader tinkerer or take 25 toughness and bring it down. I think the bring it down choice is probably better
steep flower
cause lemme tell ya; seen many boltgun builds and tbh none are better than this one if i may be so bold; tested in countless h40s
limber bane
on what build?
steep flower
hmm, I could take 5% health and grenader tinkerer or take 25 toughness and bring...
it is
unreal nova
hmm, I could take 5% health and grenader tinkerer or take 25 toughness and bring...
Not really, lul. That build isn't a boss killer.
steep flower
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f58a4ba-9a0c-4cec-8d03-9f4535122a62/dr...
trust me you dont need desperado nor 2 other talent nodes on the right
barren cave
thats true, and buffing shredder nades is more fun, but 25 toughness and more dmg to ogryns is pretty good
limber bane
trust me you dont need desperado nor 2 other talent nodes on the right
i spend most of my time as melee though
isn't that a substantial loss to take those two nodes out
unreal nova
thats true, and buffing shredder nades is more fun, but 25 toughness and more dm...
True, is more playstyle, I like boomies!
steep flower
i spend most of my time as melee though
change that; your main job is to be on overwatch vs specials & ranged units & kill stuff at range
steep flower
isn't that a substantial loss to take those two nodes out
ofc not
barren cave
im gonna go full nade build after I finish the ws penance and I drop keystones from vet
limber bane
change that; your main job is to be on overwatch vs specials & ranged units & ki...
already do, plasmagun does an easy job of that though
unreal nova
im gonna go full nade build after I finish the ws penance and I drop keystones f...
I like the melee boom style.
ember nest
change that; your main job is to be on overwatch vs specials & ranged units & ki...
Okay I get the "main job" thing but in practice you just end up in melee anyways
:^/
steep flower
Okay I get the "main job" thing but in practice you just end up in melee anyways
ye but desperado is not needed; trust me
limber bane
I would rather have desperado over Field Improv tbh
steep flower
I would rather have desperado over Field Improv tbh
field improv will save your games
unreal nova
Have both!
steep flower
ppl underestimate it
unreal nova
ppl underestimate it
Cos pubs are dumb and never use them?
barren cave
wait, i can get grenade tinkerer and bring it down both if I drop survivalist aura and go for the fire team aura
team will hate me , but ...sure
unreal nova
wait, i can get grenade tinkerer and bring it down both if I drop survivalist a...
This is what some do btw.
steep flower
Against like captains and pogryns
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/17311624869725861484/044F90E83E3A6FB78A55C0E5295577E8960AF8B2/ This should show off how good the build is
ember nest
Normal boltgun stuff
limber bane
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/17311624869725861484/044F90E83E3A6FB78A55C0...
LOL is this h40
steep flower
Against like captains and pogryns
the only boss you dont do that is regular captains; you can do the same as i did to plowgryns in the vid above to twins
unreal nova
team will hate me , but ...sure
Nobody cares in lower diffs. You won't be accepted into havocs though.
steep flower
LOL is this h40
yup
barren cave
hahaha, thats funny build
steep flower
Normal boltgun stuff
believe me if that would be normal i would not be recommending my build over other boltgun builds
unreal nova
Dual commissars with field improv is still the funni thing.
steep flower
Normal boltgun stuff
i WISH this was normal but its not cause ppl dunno how 2 build
ember nest
believe me if that would be normal i would not be recommending my build over oth...
Was this not being directly compared to that plasma ds build
Was someone just going to drop boltgun in for plasma or smth
steep flower
Was this not being directly compared to that plasma ds build
it is; the whole discussion revolved around boltgun vs plasma; comparing potatoes to rice however is rough
ember nest
If ur going boltgun then hell no you don't need desperado LMFAO
steep flower
what node would you use if you wanted to skip field improv
you dont wanna skip field improv
limber bane
and doesn't boltgun chew through ammo? how do you handle ammo economy
steep flower
and doesn't boltgun chew through ammo? how do you handle ammo economy
by doing what every good player should be doing in this & other games
MICROMANAGING
unreal nova
Unless you play really low diffs... a good use of kits and crates is a godsend.
limber bane
what primary do you go for? and can you send the perks for both weps
steep flower
Unless you play really low diffs... a good use of kits and crates is a godsend.
8 SHREDDERS, 4 NUKES
steep flower
what primary do you go for? and can you send the perks for both weps
SURE GIMME A SEC
limber bane
OK ♥
calm shard
8 SHREDDERS, 4 NUKES
IF the crates spawn and you find them
They could also just spawn at the absolute final event of the mission
unreal nova
8 SHREDDERS, 4 NUKES
BOOMZ!!!
calm shard
Or on the pathway to extract
steep flower
***IF*** the crates spawn and you find them
thats why you scavenge & not speedrun through the map lmao we had that conversation before boi; this is not a race
calm shard
that's literally how the spawns work in havoc
if you dawdle it throws more shit at you to get you to keep moving
steep flower
that's literally how the spawns work in havoc
lmao no; its a random chance
unreal nova
They could also just spawn at the absolute final event of the mission
Boom your way through the Dreyko exit. Boom moar.
unreal nova
KABOOM!!!
limber bane
do you have time now tho? i can just show you EVERYTHING in the VC
yeah sure I might get a work call at some point though
steep flower
yeah sure I might get a work call at some point though
Should not take long
stoic thorn
RAAAAH AURIC EXEMPLAR
covert dagger
That's not the alt-f4 achievement, right? That's ASS.
stoic thorn
That's the one below ASS
covert dagger
Still alt-f4?
stoic thorn
10 normal aurics without dying
covert dagger
Ah. Yes.
normal bay
You can't alt-F4 either anymore to my knowledge
stoic thorn
I am NOT touching the auric maelstrom with a ten foot pole
normal bay
ASS is probably easier
stoic thorn
Don't like the modifiers
normal bay
5 less missions to get shit teammates or barreled
normal bay
Yup
unreal nova
Wait ASS is only 5 missions?
5 auric maels.
stoic thorn
I've found quite a good build I think
unreal nova
They count to auric exemplar as well.
stoic thorn
It suits my playstyle I love toughness regen and helping my team
Cover Fire is goated I love it
normal bay
Just find easy maels. Plenty of hound missions pop up lol
stoic thorn
I LOVE helping my team regen toughness by blasting poxers next to them
Damage boosts too
Albeit I have to forgo grenade tinkerer
It's a trade I'm fine with
covert dagger
I LOVE helping my team regen toughness by blasting poxers next to them
Love that talent. I think most peopel don't even notice.
stoic thorn
Focus Fire with toughness regen
40% toughness back with I fucking kill a shotgunner I tag
And my teammates regen toughness with me too
covert dagger
Laspistol at head height through a crowd of poxers makes zealots happy.
covert dagger
Then they tell you that you suck.
covert dagger
I go for a corporal level reject.
Although my "fun loadout" is a super team oriented lasgun vet. I use it when I play high ... makes games smoooooth.
calm shard
Laspistol at head height through a crowd of poxers makes zealots happy.
the...gun with no cleave?
covert dagger
Dunno. Makes zealot not die.
covert dagger
Same.
stoic thorn
Two cover vets
covert dagger
For "real" party support NGL I play dogless shield Arby.
I hate myself for it sometimes. Vet is what I wanna play. Guard for life. Until I get an Eldar. But man. It's so much fun with that shield and my super angry arby.
Feels so good.
unreal nova
For "real" party support NGL I play dogless shield Arby.
Shock mines, BTL, lone wulf.
stoic thorn
I'm a beast with the ogryn idk why
unreal nova
Can clutch even with crazy DC lag if you get lucky.
stoic thorn
Max defense slab shield
stoic thorn
Rumbler
If you expand into bigger booms and fire booms on the right side of the tree it's golden
covert dagger
*That.
I think I use .... single shot stubber? I don't really use guns a lot on that one.
stoic thorn
Rumbler is so good
unreal nova
You will get hate if you just Rumbler and steal all ammo.
stoic thorn
I don't steal all the ammo
I take some
Most of the time it's taunt and shield doin the talking
covert dagger
"Da biggest can't get hate, cuz he's da biggest. And meanest."
stoic thorn
The rumbler WILL clutch
Bosses? Ezpz if you spam it with adhesive charges and shrapnel
That's bleed and burn on the boss
calm shard
You will get hate if you just Rumbler and steal all ammo.
maybe the little people should use guns that deserve ammo over the rumbler
oh wait
covert dagger
the shock mace burns through their shield, too. The secondary is great.
stoic thorn
The little people don't deserve ammo if I'm rumbling
Horde: wiped
Shield wall: blown to bits
Bosses: dead
PBB rumbler fun as hell though
unreal nova
maybe the little people should use guns that deserve ammo over the rumbler
I really don't know why I haven't just blocked everyone who plays rumbler oggy with that kind of attitude.
stoic thorn
PBB rumbler fun as hell though
Artillerygryn
calm shard
rumbler is just like that
it's like a psyker that eats all the ammo on the map to kill everything
stoic thorn
Staff psyker ftw
unreal nova
it's like a psyker that eats all the ammo on the map to kill everything
And they are clearly both unfun to play with either way.
calm shard
yeah
covert dagger
I've been told good players don't use ammo ever. they also never get hit. And always melee.
stoic thorn
I keep blowign up
covert dagger
I have three levels left on Psyker. Then I am never touching it again,
stoic thorn
I've been told good players don't use ammo ever. they also never get hit. And al...
I'm told good players don't go to the toilet they just shit themselves while playing darktide
covert dagger
::chikabowow::
stoic thorn
I think they are
barren cave
well yes ofc
covert dagger
Can you imagine the smell in some of those places? Like the hab blocks with fifteen rotting corpses and like, literal mounds of puss?
stoic thorn
Darktide coma theory
covert dagger
I mean, my dog had an infection once in her ear and I could smell it from a couple yards away. And it was like, less than an ounce of goop.
barren cave
all in addition to the general aroma of a hive city
calm shard
admonition needs more filth on their designs
him
barren cave
dreg ragers are cool
I almost forgot they are admonition
mostly because I keep forgetting scab ragers exist
they seem weirdly less frequent
calm shard
scab ragers are much rarer yeah
always have been
despite being less threatening
kinda just the case for scab enemies in general
a lot of dreg enemies are directly more dangerous and they spawn more frequently
barren cave
also isnt there one enemy type thats missing a counterpart
mauler yeah
dreg maulers when
calm shard
dregs also don't have shooters
all of their ranged fodder are Stalkers
(which are more dangerous)
barren cave
those autogun potshot guys dont count as shooters?
covert dagger
Aren't they basically block fodd- citizens of the imperium?
barren cave
they are
sudden cedar
yes
covert dagger
The moebian sixth is the actual soldiers.
barren cave
they are a cult, scabs are traitor guardsmen
sudden cedar
Yes the Moebian 6th are Soldiers.
And more importantly, they are an Imperial Guard Regiment.
They aren't PDF
calm shard
those autogun potshot guys dont count as shooters?
They're Stalkers
covert dagger
Ooooh. Right.
calm shard
Scab Stalkers are these guys
barren cave
why do you say stalkers are more dangerous than shooters
calm shard
They're more aggressive and shoot much faster. Plus they resist suppression
barren cave
dreg stalkers resist suppression?
calm shard
All stalkers do
barren cave
fs what even is the relevance of suppression anymore
calm shard
Dreg Stalkers used to be immune to suppression
calm shard
Suppression is good into gunners
Even a tiny amount of it will make them lose accuracy when shooting
barren cave
yeah but I feel like modifying my suppression in the skill tree is never worth it
its like getting stamina reduction on sprint or something, not worth it
calm shard
Yeah beause it isn't unless you're a gunlugger or arbites
Who get +25% damage into suppressed enemies
covert dagger
does it also help stagger? I've played around with a lasrifle setup where the first round was meh, and the second one hit like a dump truck because of a bunch of stagger.
calm shard
does it also help stagger? I've played around with a lasrifle setup where the fi...
No
Suppression is unrelated to stagger
covert dagger
Booo.
barren cave
Scab Stalkers are these guys
omg I genuinely cant tell if ive seen this guy ever in a game or not, its all a blur
calm shard
You probably see them but don't really think about them
They usually only spawn alongside shotgunners and bulwarks
covert dagger
I'd say something uneven like three, but that's the nids.
Wait, maybe some day in the far future we get to shoot nids.
barren cave
genestealer speculation is like
a daily occurence on this discord
which I approve of
covert dagger
Maybe just a small geneetaler infection?
sudden cedar
There is no such thing as a small genestealer infection
covert dagger
Like you know ... maybe somethign in the underhive.
sudden cedar
Given the scale of Hives
covert dagger
Some natural caverns, gnarly ecosystem ...
barren cave
well, itd be decent fit, also its a cool faction they can give limelight on, kinda like arbitrators
covert dagger
My character keeps talking about Eldar.
I would LOVE to see a "lore appropriate" encounter with like, a banshee.
If I was an eldar I'd be a banshee. Scream that edge out!
mortal aspen
lore appropriate?
random gameover
covert dagger
Maybe the NPC we're guarding gets ganked?
Or they shred Wolfer!
Into tiny little ribbons.
sudden cedar
Wolfer will most likely just get sacrificed in one way or the other by the Admonition because he has proven to be useless
covert dagger
Or become an "asset" to Rannick.
That's my prediction, we suddenly have to help him because he knows stuff.
sudden cedar
I don't think Rannick is that radical
sudden cedar
Or Grendyl for that matter
covert dagger
Either way wil be fun.
I mean, Rannick doesn't have to be a radical, he could just snag Wolfer and take his time with him and squeeze him.
barren cave
I also would not be surprised if at some point down the line zola gets corrupted and joins the traitors
mortal aspen
so much copium, the story will never get this far xdd
barren cave
so much copium, the story will never get this far xdd
it will, just gotta wait 10 ish years
covert dagger
Hope may be the first step to disappointment, but a Guardman without hope is as good as dead.
sudden cedar
I don't Zola think is that kind of material
covert dagger
I think she has some like .... Khorne leanings, but her and Wolfer probably know each other,
Ooooh, maybe she dies in an attempt to snag wolfer? Like the KArnak twins missio, but more failed.
ember nest
I think she has some like .... Khorne leanings, but her and Wolfer probably know...
🧍
Isn't the entire allusion here that Wolfer is her brother
calm shard
I think she has some like .... Khorne leanings, but her and Wolfer probably know...
Well it's actually that Wolfer is probably her brother
ember nest
Amd then they lay on the whole "importance of siblings" bit hella thick in the ritual mission
ember nest
"Damn! Siblings! Siblings is the prophecy! A sibling bond! Lets use the twins. The twins didn't work! They aren't the prophecy! I wonder who the prophecy is for then!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
calm shard
Amd then they lay on the whole "importance of siblings" bit hella thick in the r...
well in that mission it was because they were crucifying one of the Karnaks to try and summon an Unclean One
ember nest
We dunno what they were doing
Jo's spitballing occasionally hits but other times it leads to
That.
covert dagger
Guy crucified did kinda look like a KArnak.
covert dagger
Makes sense.
barren cave
"Damn! Siblings! Siblings is the prophecy! A sibling bond! Lets use the twins. T...
oh nice, where do they say that
also is that like dead rodin, or did rodin survive the orthus mission
ik rinda did
ember nest
well in that mission it was because they were crucifying one of the Karnaks to t...
Specifically the power of the sibling bond was the quoted prophecy
ember nest
oh nice, where do they say that
During the other carnival mission
covert dagger
If they turn Zola chaos, they better not make her fanservice pretty.
covert dagger
The guy hanging on the chaos star in the mission where you have to popo the barriers.
That's Rodin KArnak.
You kill/wound/hurt? him in a previous one.
The one Zola botches.
sudden cedar
Well it was Rodin Karnak. Now it is just the corpse of Rodin Karnak.
barren cave
oh thats dark communion yes
ember nest
- rodin is dead
- some admonition lady is yapping about a ritual with a sibling bond
- wolfer is being salty the entire mission
- we interrupt whatever it is
- rodin's body vanishes
covert dagger
Epic.
sudden cedar
Wolfer being salty is the most fun part of it.
covert dagger
"It is time for the three to meet."
barren cave
im asking if the hanging rodin was dead or did he survive our killing him in the orthus offensive and then they strung him up for sacrifice
ember nest
My personal theory is that admonition is being backed by hereteks
ember nest
im asking if the hanging rodin was dead or did he survive our killing him in the...
No hes very dead
covert dagger
At least the nobility.
elder fiber
he was just sleeping
barren cave
but rinda is alive?
covert dagger
The guy talking to Zola has the hoity toity accent.
ember nest
Rinda survived and the same lady that's yapping did some augments on her or whatever
barren cave
i see
ember nest
The guy talking to Zola has the hoity toity accent.
On that mission? Its Rannick.
barren cave
and youre saying that sibling bond quote is also from dark communion?
sudden cedar
She's probably huffing the Admonition Stims now.
barren cave
i def missed it
sudden cedar
Yes. Referring to Rodin and Rinda Karnak
covert dagger
No. the guy who also taunts Morrow.
barren cave
is it in the gibberish they speak or do they actually say it
ember nest
No. the guy who also taunts Morrow.
What guy
ember nest
is it in the gibberish they speak or do they actually say it
The very loud and very clear admonition lady says it
barren cave
hes the guy that calls him a blowhard in one of the hourglass missions
covert dagger
I haven't had him in a lot of missions. He has a noble accent and seems to know Zola. He says that the tree is holy ground.
barren cave
yeah that guy
sudden cedar
The Sibling Bond thing happens in Dark Communion as part of a few variants as to what is being said when you cross the first area and reach the first med station
sudden cedar
And it very clearly referrences Rinda and Rodin Karnak.
ember nest
^
sudden cedar
Because Rodin is being used in the ritual.
sudden cedar
Yes.
ember nest
Basically
But that means the prophecy is unfufilled
barren cave
well
I havent played all the mortis trials, but i definitely got some voicelines about zola , some arbitrators and her brother
havent concluded it yet though
also its kinda cool you can pick an arbitrator background where you were part of the arbitrator team that captured wolfer alive and imprisoned him in the tancred bastion, where he gets broken out of in the beginning of the game
sudden cedar
I don't know if it has been confirmed by FS but it is very much possible that formerly Tibiron Zola is now Biron Wolfer
What is clear is that Tibiron Zola has volunteered/been drafted into the Imperial Guard
Or first into the PDF and later made it into the Imperial Guard.
barren cave
ember nest
And the tithe from atoma goes to the moebian regiments as part of the moebian domain
(Saying this preemptively to kick any "he could go anywhere" notions in the balls)
sudden cedar
Yes.
Moebian Domain Regiments could be deployed elsewhere, yes, as can all Imperial Guard Regiments.
barren cave
well itd be kinda weird if the whole conclusion to that thing was her brother is just some random guardsmen off somewhere and has no relevance anymore, especially when in the main missions themselves the admonition guys keep bringing up zolas past like theres something important to them there
ember nest
Most if not all of them are stuck fighting the darktide
sudden cedar
Yes, that is the reason why it is most likely.
Otherwise you have characters that end up nowhere and you don't get anywhere with them.
covert dagger
You know ... maybe that's why she's still alove. Rannick is keeping her as a doule agent.
sudden cedar
She's no double agent.
ember nest
well itd be kinda weird if the whole conclusion to that thing was her brother is...
And yet people still scream about it from the hills that "its just a theory"
sudden cedar
Pretty much everyone knows she's an Inquisitorial Operative by now.
barren cave
and theyve already literally implied zola has some kind of agenda with wolfer, her whole orthus offensive missions was about her "obsession" with wolfer
sudden cedar
Explicator is one rank below Interrogator.
ember nest
^
covert dagger
He likely suspects or knows she has some sort of attachment to Wolfer. And she did betray him, and as Morrow points out "at least she's still breathing."
sudden cedar
She used/uses the Ragged King and his lackeys as informants yes.
With the help of Brunt.
Brunt smashed his face in, Zola said "do it" and the Ragged King complied.
covert dagger
Oh yeah, so since we're all acolytes ... are we the same as the guys guarding the mourningstar?
sudden cedar
No.
covert dagger
What are they?
sudden cedar
Everyone in the Warband is an Acolyte, that is a general term.
covert dagger
Ah, gotcha.
covert dagger
Right. And Rannick is making an effort not to learn our names.
sudden cedar
Which means, yes, both Rannick and Zola are also still Acolytes.
covert dagger
Which means we might be like, minorly not terrible at what we do.
ember nest
What
barren cave
Im pretty sure at least one or two of the guardsmen on the mourningstar are veterans morrow brought with him who fought with him at some campaign or the other, its in the wiki
ember nest
"An effort not to learn names" = he expects you to die
covert dagger
Cause the guards are super nice to me.
ember nest
The dialogue changes as you go up in trust
sudden cedar
Yes.
barren cave
especially melk
covert dagger
Exactly. So at some point we're not just rejects.
sudden cedar
Most of the Guards will be friendly, but the other characters reaction depend on your background.
barren cave
you wanna bash melks head in when your low level
covert dagger
We're valuable rejects.
sudden cedar
Rannicks own words.
covert dagger
Exactly. Valuable.
barren cave
expendable
barren cave
completely expendable still
sudden cedar
Melk also does not like the Fanatic Zealot.
ember nest
By the time of orthus offensive rannick doesn't even want to waste the strike teams to be fair. He still sees you as expendable, but in this case there's at least an effort to pull you out.
covert dagger
Remember Rannick doesn't give out praise. And everyone is expendable. Like, your average guardsman isn't "scum" because they're expendable.
sudden cedar
Yes. He only wants to get us out because failure would be worse than survival.
He'd throw us away in a heartbeat without thinking about it. When the situation requires it.
barren cave
Im pretty sure they dont see us valuable at all , just tested and proven
covert dagger
He does make a pretty sincere plea to Masozi.
Right. Tested and proven assets.
You don't throw those away mindlessly.
sudden cedar
As long as we remain useful, he will keep us alive because we can be of further use.
ember nest
In dark communion he's like "well its too late to send backup so do your best."
barren cave
You don't throw those away mindlessly.
the imperium does that all the time
its like their go to strategy
sudden cedar
true enough, but the Inquisition works differently.
So do Rogue Traders by the way.
covert dagger
Smart Inquisitors don't. I think they really set him up as smart. Paranoid and smart. I think he will usurp Grendyl. In the video for Arbites Grendyl is .... questionably behaved toward an apprentice.
ember nest
Thats about par for the course actually
barren cave
that sounds nice to me
calm shard
so rinda's still around somewhere, probably more juiced up
rinda chaos spawn
sudden cedar
That is because as much power as the Inquisition has, they rely very much on being able to exert that Power
covert dagger
You don't groom someone like Rannick just to chuck 'em. It's very uneconomical.
sudden cedar
And everyone else conceding to it.
barren cave
if they do like a big grendyl reveal and then rannick just usurps him in the next scene
ember nest
You have immense expectations as an interrogator
Grendyl is also hiding his
Condition from Rannick, iirc
covert dagger
Condition?
barren cave
diabetes?
ember nest
Something similar
sudden cedar
Some say he is similar to Sefoni.
ember nest
And currently, for all intense and purposes, "is" the morningstar, and has been for centuries.
Grendyl has been around at least as long as Morrow has.
barren cave
i think someone told me there is a bunch of stuff about brahms family and the mourningstar being connected to grendyl, and grendyl is most likely cursed somehow to be integrated into the ship
ember nest
Yes
hybrid solstice
So grendyl ... Is a ship
ember nest
The brahms are basically under control of grendyl and pretend to just be "helping"
Grendyl has been on the ship the whole time but outside of a chosen few (kharib, Brahms) he is considered to be "elsewhere"
barren cave
yeah and kharib isnt seen anywhere because hes tending to grendyl, since hes cursed
ember nest
Even Rannick does not know he is on the ship
sudden cedar
Do be like that i guess.
ember nest
In other words we are playing
Pirates Of The Caribbean:
The Dark Tide
ember nest
Brunt is missing
covert dagger
I would like Grendyl being some psyker that's slowly being nugrled.
barren cave
" GRENDYL IS SHIP? YESSS BOSS!"
ember nest
Pensive emoji
ember nest
Oh good luck
The only reason your rejects would even remotely know this is because sefoni enjoys being a lil' leaker in the mortis trials
And also moaning
But mostly being a leaker
barren cave
brunt being missing is kinda random, it doesnt tie into anything yet right
ember nest
Yet
barren cave
well
I hope hes a named plague ogryn boss
and we get to put him to peace with brunts special
ember nest
I hope admonition turns him into a big combat servitor
I am fully on the train of "admonition are backed by the dark mechanicum"
hybrid solstice
Brunt saw too much so grendyl transorm him into big battle ... roomba
ember nest
Because they keep being very very very very blatant
That the tech the heretics have is above the norm for even the 6th
And that admonition has been lurking since before the 6th came back
barren cave
i dunno but
if it is dark mechanicum its yet another reason to give me admech themed class next
ember nest
Like even Hadron and Kayex are like
barren cave
ember nest
"Tf you mean they have a genesis chamber"
"Why"
And iirc there's dialogue about a techpreist hanging around Wolfer
And then wolfer calling the admonition voice "creature"
icy gulch
when the lore has lore about the lore
ember nest
if it is dark mechanicum its yet another reason to give me admech themed class n...
I need skitarii immediately
barren cave
same
anything admech really, even tech adept is cool
but skitarii would be so dope
and the power level fits into the current squad level
they can give me arc rifles and phosphor pistol
sudden cedar
Mhmhm yes... Rad-poisoning.
barren cave
main reason I want skitarii is because skitarii banter in dt style would be so dope
sudden cedar
Would it? I have to say, while the stuff the Arbitrators say is good.. it is very much not on the level of the original four.
To be expected, of course, but still.
barren cave
arbitrators dont have much banter with the other 4 yeah, but their individual voicelines are still great
sudden cedar
Outside of a lot of them being buggy or having wrong subtitles.
barren cave
also they do say like, arbitrator stuff and not boring stuff
sudden cedar
And the Fatalist constantly lexing about.
ember nest
Would it? I have to say, while the stuff the Arbitrators say is good.. it is ver...
Skitarii are basically mechanicum zealots
sudden cedar
The Lex is the Lex!
ember nest
So I have a feeling we will get 2 talkative ones and one that is just binaric screeching
sudden cedar
barren cave
well i dont blame any of the rejects for not being...super chatty with the Maul voice arbitrator, because like
who would really
" BREAK THEIR SKULLS"
fast mason
servoskull class or i kill myself
ember nest
Maul is just excited
barren cave
" I . AM. ADAMANT"
ember nest
I hope everyone who asks for servoskulls fucking explodes
sudden cedar
The Authoritarian at least has style.
barren cave
Inefficient use of ammo. MANDATED EDICT : PSYCHIC RECONSTRUCTION
ember nest
The fuck are servoskulls supposed to do? All I ever see is "play the game for you" and "be a turret"
sudden cedar
Not being a complete nutcase helps with that.
hybrid solstice
SKittari that sends servoskull as skill like sienna sends skull as pyromancer
barren cave
but Maul screaming, " QUUAAAAILLL BLOCKFODDERRR" in the most guttural hateful voice youve ever heard does something for me
sudden cedar
Any excuse to not interact with the systems of the game.
Pyromania. Mandated Edict: Three years of service in polar labour camps.
barren cave
no
sudden cedar
You wouldn't want a Scion
ember nest
I very explicitly want a scion
sudden cedar
You'd just get a less pissed off Arbitrator.
barren cave
scion boring, drip cool
ember nest
Not ganeplay wise
barren cave
isnt scion drip already in the game
barren cave
i see
ember nest
For scions they would literally be the gaurd but with more weapons (I want the fucking hotshot las already)
sudden cedar
Or this
ember nest
Scions being "better gaurd" is like the entire reason they butt heads with the gaurd in lore
sudden cedar
barren cave
whats next? they want a krieg grenadier? also I do agree on hotshot las, it should be a thing in the game
sudden cedar
I mean, Tempestus Scions are better than the Guard.
barren cave
after krieg grenadier we want our ogryn to be an elysian drop trooper
barren cave
i would have assumed an enforcer class earlier, but i think thats kinda irrelevant now that they gave us arbitrator
ember nest
Moat enforcers tend to be ex criminals themselves
I have a feeling we'll be getting some shitty ganger next though
calm shard
i would have assumed an enforcer class earlier, but i think thats kinda irreleva...
also one of the psykers is an enforcer
ember nest
*was
ember nest
They got arrested or whatever
Very lucky time to be arrested tbh
I don't reckon their life would have continued very far afterwards
sudden cedar
Ah there we go.
Scholastia Psykana
Enforcer Psyker mentions she/he was betrayed by her/his comrades
So, they noticed she/he was a Psyker and said "Let's get rid of them"
Given they are still alive, they got lucky and deemed strong enough to not get transported to Terra to act as fuel for the Emperor.
halcyon blaze
that's literally how the spawns work in havoc
It's a little bit of both, you want to move forward, but not so fast that you don't notice medikits and ammo crates, and not so fast that things like hex rituals and bosses spawn simultaneously cause you pushed too far forward before dealing with what you already have.
Steady pace is key.
mortal aspen
lmao no; its a random chance
no
buoyant pewter
KASRKIN/SCIONS RAAAAAAAAAH
HELLGUN LASGUN
ember nest
I think "shock trooper" as a class could be cool
Just running around with comically large guns
buoyant pewter
Frankly would be neat, but I feel like adding ankle biters (Ratlings) and binary speaking lunatics (Skiitarii) would be nice
More unique weapons should be added though, we have so many Guard standard weapons not represented, ranging from grenade launchers to power fists
barren cave
apart from skitarii i have no idea what class they could add
im sure fs has already considered options though
also I still havent played rt yet, and theres probably some ideas in there
covert fable
guys
What do you think of my Sergeant Leland Coyle build ?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fa3fc98-ccf1-4354-862d-c62738b2d549/sergeant-leland-coyle
He's the warden guy from outlast trials that shocks you
calm shard
apart from skitarii i have no idea what class they could add
We're the inquisition could be fuckin' anything
Literally
barren cave
yeah but like
calm shard
Well anything that isn't Chaos
barren cave
it cant be space marines
probably not sisters of battle
what else you got
cant be assassinorum assassins
there probably is stuff apart from skitarii that works, i just dont know it
probably some criminal type
calm shard
Doesn't even have to be imperium depending on Grendyl's standards
barren cave
criminal type is the only archetype missing i guess, but thats kinda iffy considering the rejects are all convicts
sudden cedar
Yup.
The Inquisition can do almost everything.
And everything when no one is looking.
covert dagger
My veteran reject is at least an ex hive urchin.
But a real ganger would be fun.
I like using the SMG when I feel hive ratty.
hybrid solstice
Give me pyro class
I want revenge and make whole ground burn like flamers/bombers do
covert dagger
Flamers need more ammo. For sure.
sudden cedar
That would not solve the inherent problems that this weapon has.
covert dagger
Or some crit build where you don’t use as much ammo?
buoyant pewter
probably not sisters of battle
I could see a Novitiate especially since were attached to a Rogue Trader and also the Inquisition. One of the Sisters 'neophytes' effectively.
covert dagger
That’d be cool.
buoyant pewter
Since we can get Arbites it wouldn't be out of the picture to see a Hospitaller Neophyte from the Sisters
covert dagger
We have one already.
covert dagger
One of my fav NPCs. I love how she can scold a noble about saving innocents and ten minutes later shout “No Mercy! Slaughter them all!”
No clue why people love Hadron. Never really liked her.
I would love to see a Melk solo Mission. Where he just gets stuff horribly wrong because he is incompetent.
Or we find out he is actually a Fachidiot. And really really good at something.
buoyant pewter
Same, I like Hestia and Alice the most of the gang
barren cave
whats a fachidiot
trim badger
it cant be space marines
Imagine they actually do this but only allow other SM to queue with you, and there's like x5 amount of enemies and/or bigger threats than usual
That'd be silly
barren cave
it would be, FS has confirmed explicitly that there wont be space marines
playable or as antagonists
which I for one heavily approve of
trim badger
I'd like to get some sort of more automated class or so?
barren cave
id like a admech themed class yeah
trim badger
You know, turrets and the like
barren cave
dunno about turrets and things, but just having a playable admech character in dt would be cool
unreal forge
playable or as antagonists
they didn't specify if there will be no antagonist space marines
ember nest
it would be, FS has confirmed explicitly that there wont be space marines
Which I am so fucking happy about
unreal forge
they specifically mentioned OUR space marines
ember nest
We aint fighting deathgaurd lil bro get it out your head
ember nest
You know, turrets and the like
Fuck turrets why do people want turrets
unreal forge
also we have evidence for nurgle space marines being teased
ember nest
Yes I too saw the single frame from a jo video
Its not happening 😭
unreal forge
from one of the new cutscenes
"single frame from a jo video" bro it's a new cutscene from a new campaign revamp update in Darktide
unreal forge
yeah man it's not like Nurgle is known for being one of like 2 factions that uses drones
ember nest
You mean other than the tau and votann and mechanicum fire wasps and the necrons and imperial drones and
unreal forge
"a drone? it means literally nothing bro"
I don't really get your point
I'm pretty sure it's just usual childish cope
ember nest
It very clearly says "scout drone" buddy
unreal forge
ok?
ember nest
Nice ad hominem though I'm sure dismissing people's rebuttals as "childish cope" works out well for you
unreal forge
it says scout drone and what does that say for you...?
barren cave
they didn't specify if there will be no antagonist space marines
they have
barren cave
they didn't specify if there will be no antagonist space marines
Originally posted by Fatshark Hedge:
This game will not have Space Marines - neither playable nor as an antagonist
ember nest
it says scout drone and what does that say for you...?
You
You posted a plague drone
past stratus
I rather they did the Genestealer bit instead of going that direction, not because I feel strongly about it just because it would be nice to have enemies in a different color scheme