veteran-class

[calm shard]

no

[hexed flare]

can i just swap to recon if i want to use that

[tall torrent]

for which one

[steep flower]

Nah; its for hordes too

Perfect for it actually

[hexed flare]

damn power sword kinda weak

[calm shard]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-bait-baiting-bass-fishing-gif-2140444873906627680

[hybrid plover]

what

[tame lodge]

Make sure to power it up

[hybrid plover]

Okay no this is not happening

Post it

[hybrid plover]

POWER IT UP

that is impossible

[hybrid plover]

is it?

[steep flower]

Ye not good

[hybrid plover]

i've always felt it lacking for hordes

unless

i guess if you really lean on the push attack

[steep flower]

I can show you a couple

[tame lodge]

If they show up with mk3 lacerate propaganda

Don't fall for it

[hybrid plover]

it's not propaganda doe

lacerate really isn't as bad as people make it out to be 😔

[calm shard]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eye-twitch-cat-eye-twitch-cat-camera-gif-26361958

[tame lodge]

https://youtu.be/pckrHxt9ks0?si=Y00CL9UijrkQk-cs

[hexed flare]

one sec in match. but i did what bath bath sdaid

[hybrid plover]

i mean it does also depend on what you're playing

[tall torrent]

are u turning it on

[buoyant pewter]

I feel like reading this chat just now was a IT QA response

[livid citrus]

I feel like you can’t use it unless it’s powered up lol

[buoyant pewter]

"Have you tried turning it on?"

"Have you tried turning it off?"

[livid citrus]

What’s the blessings for it?

[buoyant pewter]

Power Cycler

Oh

Nevermind

[hexed flare]

i have but still like 10 hits for a armored crusher

[hybrid plover]

WHAT

okay this is a code red right here

we need to figure this out

that is outrageous

[calm shard]

I can see that if you only use light attacks and have a bad talent tree

the sweepy lights have kinda bad damage into armor

[hybrid plover]

which mk are you using?

[hexed flare]

i copied the above bath build, vi

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/15530934164747905468/95325AF4BEDD3511DC2271634655829F22BD8C27/

[hybrid plover]

power cycler, bromentum, carapace and unyielding perks?

[buoyant pewter]

4 hit for Lights and 2 hit for Block-Attack + Light should be the norm for a Crusher

[serene bough]

your weapon must not be upgrades or youre not powering it

[tall torrent]

sunder

[tall torrent]

nah maybe he's just not getting weakspot hits

[buoyant pewter]

Fair

[tall torrent]

power sword is super finesse oriented

[hybrid plover]

oh you're using sunder?

i mean both are fine honestly

[tall torrent]

sunder power sword is among the fastest TTK vs mauler groups which kinda scales better for higher diff

[buoyant pewter]

Ahhhh, I was using Slaughterer, may try Sunder then

[hybrid plover]

Slaughterer is a bait blessing for power sword

don't use it

[tall torrent]

slaughterer is good
just behind BM and sunder

[hybrid plover]

exactly

not that it's a bad blessing

but that the other two are just

way more practical in use so why use slaughterer

[tall torrent]

if u could run 4 blessings per weapon I'd use slaughterer on power sword

[covert fable]

Do you guys prefer sunder or brutal momentum

[hexed flare]

I may have exagerated but i did an event mission and it was ass

here is my clip

[tall torrent]

sunder for havoc
outside it kinda doesn't matter much cuz u will steamroll everything anyway

[covert fable]

Ah

[hybrid plover]

Honestly I've used bromentum in 40 and it's done me just fine.

[covert fable]

Sunder did sound rlly nice, I checked it out

[hybrid plover]

you know what, fair enough

[tall torrent]

push atk + L4

[hybrid plover]

you need to push attack

[buoyant pewter]

You gotta power it up more than once or you gotta do the block-attack combo

[hybrid plover]

just doing a light won't do it

[hexed flare]

but i jsut want to hit mouse 1

[buoyant pewter]

...........

[hexed flare]

and thats heavy

[tall torrent]

play psyker

[steep flower]

ofc; like... you see the moveset? its very obvious

[hybrid plover]

it feels more obvious with mk6 for me personally

[steep flower]

not just that; you spam lights, use push when gets too thicc

[steep flower]

oh wait you don't mean shovel?

[hybrid plover]

no

i mean knoife

[hexed flare]

doesn't powering up take up time in heavy situations

[steep flower]

[hybrid plover]

someone was talking about it

[buoyant pewter]

This is the downside to the weapon that keeps it 'mostly' in check, yes.

[hybrid plover]

activate and block push immediately after

[calm shard]

well it's that or dealing zero damage

[hybrid plover]

it cancels the animation and lets you go into the block push attack really fast

[buoyant pewter]

Every weapon has its benefits and downsides, there is no 'universal' weapon in that sense you can just C1 to victory

[hybrid plover]

the time to activate isn't the real problem. it's getting knicked by anything while it's activated that you need to worry about

[sonic kayak]

Except the Ogryn shovel

[hexed flare]

[hybrid plover]

also, another tip. if you want to avoid the slow down during activation, activate while sliding

[buoyant pewter]

You still have to activate it with the Special

[calm shard]

not necessary

[hybrid plover]

not really

[hexed flare]

pushing an extra button + combos is hard for my little brain

[hybrid plover]

force greatsword is just good. you only activate to get that nice moonslight beam swing

[calm shard]

the special really is the cherry on top of the force greatswords crazy moveset

It'd still be a good melee even if it didn't have it xd

[buoyant pewter]

Welp just go Psyker then like Bath said

XD

[tall torrent]

combat axe only hits core breakpoints on arb for h40

[ember nest]

lmfao this is so perfectly cut

[hexed flare]

is tac axe viable on vet?

[hybrid plover]

yes

tac axe is viable, in general

[tall torrent]

viable, B tier melee

[calm shard]

yeah

[tall torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/peaceemote-peace-peaceful-gif-15091939045954194911

[calm shard]

loses breakpoints in havocs but you can just run decimator instead of bromentum

like a freak

[covert fable]

Is there an autoclicker mod

[tropic notch]

msi after burner taking forever

[covert fable]

This game will kill my fingies

[calm shard]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/510

[tall torrent]

can only share by adding contributors (editors) atm

[tropic notch]

@tall torrent combing through my pc atm because all my fps went poof

[calm shard]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/87 and these 2 which are simpler
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/88

[tropic notch]

any tips

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075033545795440691/1376801727403261952/1x.webp

[tall torrent]

have u tried dual boot with linux

[serene bough]

but its a crusher

[tropic notch]

whent from 300+240 to 120

[tall torrent]

I'm not bothered to figure out which part in win11 is going wrong

[covert fable]

Thank you

[tropic notch]

yeah im about to reinstall it

or get a debloated verison

[tall torrent]

might as well go linux dual boot at that point

[serene bough]

Weakspot is the size of a car tire

[sleek garden]

the strategy with ogryn right now is literally just light attack with the club and nothing else

[tropic notch]

[buoyant pewter]

Bully Club is overtuned in that regard yeah

[calm shard]

me with my branx pickaxe instantly killing the full health havoc 40 crusher

[hexed flare]

it bricks my pc when i play on linux. i have to uninstall reinstall the game. some video setting i change make it crash on loadup

[tall torrent]

I recommend cachyOS if u do go that route

[hexed flare]

endeavouros

[tall torrent]

Funnily enough I get better performance on Linux than on win11 with way fewer issues across almost every game I’ve played

[tropic notch]

i thought it might be thermal throttling but my pc is clean lol

[hexed flare]

it's something i change in the video, resolution, fullscreen, something. works perfecrt on first launch, then i adjust settings and then it bricks

[tall torrent]

Maybe nvidia driver bricked again

Who knows

Somehow in 2025 nvidia has better drivers on Linux than win11

[tropic notch]

ill try reinstalling

[hexed flare]

im hacking your ip. sending it to nintendo

[tropic notch]

uhh in roblox i was getting 110 fps

[tall torrent]

When nvidia win11 drivers were having issues around 50-series launch, the Linux version actually was completely fine

lol

[tropic notch]

and i have a 4080 s with a 7800x3d

[steep flower]

its slow; not slow slow but you can feel its weight + with no CC you can struggle vs armor mass

[covert fable]

Some games in roblox are crazy unoptimized

[tall torrent]

My 4070ti super gets 150-240fps in DT with 2x FG + DLSS4performance

[steep flower]

don't be like that; you ain't old nor handicapped; you need to do better

[covert fable]

Is the new amd 90 series goods

[tropic notch]

i get darktide from the pc gampass so i think im fucked on linux

[covert fable]

Oh true

[tall torrent]

U can buy DT super cheap on cdkey websites actually

My issue with FSR FG is that it has weird artifacts with some attack animations

Like, most poke/stab attacks

[tropic notch]

what about my progress and money

[tall torrent]

Oh uh

[tropic notch]

[tall torrent]

Cope ig

Do u have a godroll plasma on ur acc

[tropic notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1025525686494035998/1398806968969461944/image0.gif

[tropic notch]

yeah

[tall torrent]

Ok ur fked gg

Guess ur sticking to the copeware that is win11

[covert fable]

Atleast he gets free candy crush

[ember nest]

darktide's memory leak is the most annoying part about darktide

[tropic notch]

im just gonna get the debloated version

[covert fable]

I need to get a 4k monitor

My pc is crying at 1080p

[ember nest]

does darktide not save your progress through steam

[covert fable]

Yeah 2k is the best for visuals and performance

[tall torrent]

Try duelling sword heavy poke

With FSR3.1 FG

And see if it has a weird line on screen for a split second

[ember nest]

oh gamepass

rip

[covert fable]

I made rhe mistake of playing on that years ago

Rip my zealot

[tall torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/peaceemote-peace-peaceful-gif-15091939045954194911

You’re precisely correct

[ember nest]

you'd have to know your FS account name or whatever

ID

etc

[tall torrent]

Wait till I blow ur mind with the fact that 99% cosmetics don’t render enough arm which makes heavy sword’s special attack animation super weird

[tropic notch]

Yeah I can get a debloated version of win11 and just install Xbox on it and be fine

[covert fable]

I didn't realise decent monitor's were this cheap

[tall torrent]

This also an issue with power sword heavy attacks

[covert fable]

165hz 1440p for like avg £120

[tropic notch]

But it’ll wipe everything

[tall torrent]

And the problem is rly just, none of the cosmetics render enough of the arm

lol

[tropic notch]

And I’ll have to get everything

[tall torrent]

And it’ll prob never get fixed

[tropic notch]

Again

[tall torrent]

Also thunder hammer’s left-to-right heavy sweep bends your character’s wrist horrendously

[covert fable]

Sure I'll check it out

I might just get a really good monitor so I don't need to upgrade

Which would prob cost like £500

[tropic notch]

Anyone have a guide on what I can uninstall on windows and how I can optimize it?

[covert fable]

Why do you need to optimize it

[tropic notch]

@covert fable

[covert fable]

Wdym?

Ur fps?

[tropic notch]

My fps is tanked

[covert fable]

Did u have Linux before

[tropic notch]

Like terribly

No

[covert fable]

I think Windows 11 is just ass

[tropic notch]

I play darktide on gamepass

So I can’t go the Linux route sadly

[covert fable]

I think it might be gamepass

I remember it being super fucky for no reason

I doubt tho

What specs are u running?

[tropic notch]

4080 super, 7800X3D, 32 6000 ram

[tame lodge]

[covert fable]

I don't see why ur fps would tank

If ur downbad

There is scripts to remove bloatware

[tropic notch]

Me either

[covert fable]

But I doubt that would help much

Commands or whatever

[tropic notch]

Uh yeah we can try some of that anything to remove anything unnecessary

[covert fable]

However

Just make sure u get it from a trusted source

[tropic notch]

[covert fable]

I think linus tech tips has one

But if I'm being honest I don't think bloatware is the issue

[tall torrent]

Prob bad driver

Or

[covert fable]

Ye

[tall torrent]

Win11 is that cooked

Or

Wack BIOS

[tropic notch]

I haven’t checked bios

Honestly idk how to update bios

[covert fable]

U haven't squeezed every % out of ur pc?? Wowowow (jk)

[tropic notch]

I know about xmp / expo and such

DDU?

[covert fable]

I undervolted my cpu and that was so good for my pc lol

Unnecessary af

I'm not sure on this but I think 5600 ram speed is better than 6000

For gaming

I remember watching a vid on it somewhere it's weird

[tropic notch]

Also where can I go to uninstall certain apps to make sure they are gone?

I don’t trust the little windows widget

Speaking of deep dive I need to check my event viewer

[covert fable]

I think cmd can uninstall apps?

[tall torrent]

Also could be mods ur using for DT idk

[tropic notch]

Maybe

[tall torrent]

I only use super lightweight mods now

Scoreboard crashes my game

[covert fable]

It always is rhe simplest thing causing issues most of the times

U overlook it too 😭

[tall torrent]

Nothing

Just base scoreboard

lol

[tropic notch]

Uhh I use scoreboard, weapon fov, decode helper, tree helper, collectible finder, vox mask, danger zone

[covert fable]

Fov can mess with fps

Or cause artifacts idk

[tropic notch]

Messing with msi afterburner rn

[covert fable]

Should be fine

Why

[tropic notch]

Haven’t done anything yet

[tall torrent]

Shouldn’t really cause issues

[covert fable]

Msi afterburner is bad no?

[tall torrent]

I play on custom 108fov and it’s fine

[covert fable]

Sus burner

[covert fable]

Shouldn't but it happens sometimes weirdly

Oh hmm

[tropic notch]

Tbh overclocking gives you like 5% increases to preformance

[covert fable]

Not worth it imo

Undervolting tho

Yummy

[tropic notch]

7 minutes and it’s at 19%

Gpu will fry bacon soon

SFF?

Ohhhhh

If current problems persist I’ll just start my upgrade rn lol

I have the msi 870x godlike, a 9800x3d, and some other parts

But first I’m gonna reinstall windows

[covert fable]

True

[tropic notch]

[covert fable]

I don't think upgrading pc parts would solve

Ur pc parts are fine

[tropic notch]

Guh

[covert fable]

Something sussy going on

[tropic notch]

Real

[covert fable]

Just reinstall windows 😎

[tropic notch]

I didn’t wanna start building it before I had everything I’m missing the ram and psu

[covert fable]

Jk

I have a test bench pc incase my pc iss sussy ever

[tropic notch]

My 1000 dollar godlike paperweight

[covert fable]

When did ur fps start to die

Did u do anything specific

[tropic notch]

Just turned on my pc and launched the game

[covert fable]

Watch everything be fine

[tropic notch]

[covert fable]

Bad powersupply can cause so many weird symptoms

I remember on my old pc

[tropic notch]

[covert fable]

It would crash at random times

It was gaslightingme

Sometime my pc ran for 2 days perfectly other days crashed and all at random intervals

The system viewer was no help

Now I'm waiting on when my watercooling will blow up 😂

I wonder if ur pc parts isn't getting enough power @tropic notch (bit of a stettch)

Yeah thats fair

Air cooling is the way

Tho aio is nice

[tropic notch]

How can I check?

[covert fable]

Well

Erm

It can be tricky

I wouldn't bother

I think ur pc w9ild just freeze if insufficient power

Oh yeah hw info

The goat

My shayla

It should be in ur pc part manual I beliv

But online prob easier

Imagine he fixed his pc and we are just talking

[tropic notch]

Still looking

Atm I’m leaning towards windows reinstall

[covert fable]

Windows reinstall does fix most issues

[tropic notch]

Yo hold on I just overclocked mah shi

[covert fable]

[tropic notch]

ITS FIXED

Crazy

[covert fable]

https://tenor.com/view/boomb-cat-boomb-cat-boom-cat-explosion-explosion-gif-gif-17107588862516012936

[tropic notch]

Not getting 300 but I’m getting 287

Uh im pretty sure it was thermal throttling

[covert fable]

Why do you need 300 fpz 😭

[tropic notch]

For my 360 hz monitor

[covert fable]

Unless u have like a 360hz monitor

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[tropic notch]

[covert fable]

Fair

[covert fable]

I'm going to eat your monitor

[sonic kayak]

Undervolted both my GPU and CPU

Good times

Darktide still runs like shit

@hybrid plover @covert fable More Havoc?

[hybrid plover]

Darktide will always run like shit.

[sonic kayak]

I think my connection is behaving now

[hybrid plover]

And yeah shure

I just gotta eat something and I'll be down,

[sonic kayak]

kk I'm already in-game, just hit me up

I'll wait

[hybrid plover]

I'm gonna try the goofy knife helbore build

And see if that works out.

[sonic kayak]

If Crunchie joins us they'll carry us for sure

Just like yesterday

[hybrid plover]

We're counting on you Crunchie

[tropic notch]

[frigid shuttle]

did you do --lua-heap-mb-size 2048 ?

[covert fable]

I'll be on in like 20 mins

My parents are lecturing me how I need a real job 😎

[sonic kayak]

Tell them that slaying heretics waits for no one

Duty unto death

[covert fable]

Real

[sonic kayak]

Only in death does duty end

[covert fable]

Alr we can game 😎

[steep flower]

WAIT A MIN

YOU DO HAVOC NOW?

[sonic kayak]

Waiting on Gremlin, you in?

[steep flower]

I WANT IT

[sonic kayak]

"Notice me senpai" lookin' ass

@steep flower You're Capt Latrine?

[covert fable]

(i walked past like 3 times)

[steep flower]

OFC

[sonic kayak]

That's a cutie

Mine looked just like that

[covert fable]

thats nicee

where da shovel at

[hybrid plover]

soon

[tall torrent]

Yea

[frigid shuttle]

[covert fable]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-cat-long-cat-cat-long-long-gif-16891440472442756567

[hybrid plover]

oke

wait

WHY IS THERE FOUR

AAAAAAA

[orchid hemlock]

Behold

The horrors of creation

[hybrid plover]

LET ME IN

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-fail-gif-21166005

[hybrid plover]

i hate jfif files

THAT'S BETTER

[covert fable]

we went into a havoc

[hybrid plover]

GOD DAMMIT

[tame lodge]

Tf is a jfif

[hybrid plover]

an animated image that is not a gif

and for some reason cannot show like a normal gif

i will wait

patiently

[covert fable]

join uss @hybrid plover

[hybrid plover]

i am here.

[icy gulch]

yknow that shotgun that is meant for hordes sounds really good. use it, use slugs to take down certain tougher enemies/snipers, specialists, etc. with a shotgun, i dont have to risk a whole lot of damage from hordes via melee. could also use a melee meant for more defense. IE parrying. hmmm

am i cooking chat

am i him

[tame lodge]

"Shotgun for hordes " and "slug" is not the same shotgun

[icy gulch]

well i saw the combat shotgun marks all have special ammo so i assumed it was just slugs for all of them

with the only difference being spread throughout all 3

im wrong arent i

[shy pivot]

Mk VI is a wide spread shot, Mk VII is a slug, Mk IX does burn damage iirc

[sonic kayak]

Each version of the shotgun has a different type of special ammo ^

[icy gulch]

OH

😐

feck

[tall torrent]

VI = balanced regular shots, horizontal spread shot for special
VII = tight regular shots, slug for special
IX = wide spread regular shots, dragon’s breath for special

[icy gulch]

wide spread sounds mighty fine for hordes

[tall torrent]

Also ranged for horde is generally not a good idea

There’re only 4 ranged weapons that are ok at shooting horde and 3 of them are used almost exclusively for elite horde contexts

[icy gulch]

thats fair

im using a boltgun and a demon sword. i kinda like powersword though. i just really like the parry tho

[tall torrent]

DC sword is ok

Wish it did actual damage vs armor

[icy gulch]

oh i agree. i use the boltgun to deal with anything else though.

feels really punchy

[tall torrent]

Ranged anti-carapace also usually not encouraged

[icy gulch]

well, the things that are armored are usually why i have a boltgun. like i have ranged specifially to deal with elites and specialists

but if im doin something wrong i need to know lol

[tall torrent]

There’re different types

Ranged elites
Specialists

Are usually dealt with via ranged, if ur melee can’t hit them within the next 2s

Melee elites however, are usually dealt with in melee

You can use ranged to thin them out but they come in large enough waves that this becomes less useful as you go up in difficulty

[icy gulch]

yeah i figured if veteran has all these ranged perks and support skills i might as well use them take them out or atleast help 😐

and to deal with large armored groups i use the krak grenades

like big multiple shieldy men

[tall torrent]

Krak is not really a replacement for proper single target damage

[icy gulch]

oh i wasnt replacing it for single targets. i dont think

i noticed the shield dudes and some armored enemies usually go in groups so i try using krak on groups of armored enemies

[tall torrent]

That’s one of the main purposes of krak

The other is boss stagger for dps

[icy gulch]

i do that too

it's really nice

then i use voice of the emperor and demon sword to help surpress hordes

[tall torrent]

I think boltgun is better with exe stance personally

[icy gulch]

i agree, but idk what else to use. i mean shotguns yeah but i have some perks that help replenish toughness on kills and i think specialist kills and weakpoint kills

something like that

[tall torrent]

If ur melee can deal with every enemy & situation then you will have a significantly wider ranged selection

[icy gulch]

so perhaps have a weapon that has strikedown or some mix. like vanguard and strikedown?

[tall torrent]

Uh

[icy gulch]

i like the idea of heavy autos being able to take down tougher enemies and lights being able to help with hordees

[tall torrent]

No you should be looking at more tangible metrics

Like

Carapace TTK
Monster DPS
Mixed horde clear

Prob the 3 main dps related metrics for melee weapons

[icy gulch]

oh 😐

i never know

im still purty new, so uprising

or the second one

dont shame me 🙁

[tall torrent]

Oh in that case none of this matters

Play wat u enjoy

[frail citrus]

high key

[icy gulch]

well actually it does because i am still surprised by the incompetancy of some teammates, so i just try to carry myself through the level

min maxing every opportunity >:C

[frail citrus]

i dont think weapon choice matters that much past damnation/auric QP

you dont need to worry abt any of it

[icy gulch]

i just wanna have a decent build 🙁

[frail citrus]

at uprising everything is decent

[tall torrent]

The only place where it matters is h31+ because the discrepancies get large enough between specific weapon picks and it changes what role u occupy in a team

[frail citrus]

dont stress yourself so much!

[faint beacon]

Don’t give a fuck about weapons till probably heresy then you have to consider what you’re running for Breakpoints

[icy gulch]

ooookay 🙁

[frail citrus]

havoc is probably the only time i get self-conscious about any of my builds on any of my classes

otherwise i run whatever feels like is going to be fun

[tall torrent]

Ya like
Plasma and helbore are similar function but completely different role in team

Stuff like that

[frail citrus]

i havent tried new helbore yet

[faint beacon]

Plasma is front lining

Helbore is back lining

That’s an incredibly TLDR

[tall torrent]

Helbore is backline sniper
Plasma is hybrid

Is the gist of it

[frail citrus]

well i know that but like

i havent actually tried the helbore rework yet

idk how viable it is past a certain point

[faint beacon]

You technically can frontline rarely with Helby

It’s just incredibly risky

[tall torrent]

It’s extremely strong

It’s at least on the same level as plasma

[frail citrus]

um... no?

buddy did you forget

this is the DARKTIDE discord server

and MY opinion is the only one that matters

[tall torrent]

But again it depends on what u want to bring to ur team and what role u wanna do

[civic apex]

b-but the smyker said i can't run relic blade fotf... i have to be book bitch

[tall torrent]

Helbore’s biggest upsides over plasma are

• much better kill efficiency vs reaper
• you essentially give all ammo on map to ur team

The first one is pretty straightforward

The second one tho, if ur team doesn’t need a lot of ammo, is just kind of a null bonus

[icy gulch]

well tbf half the games i get i currently feel like im afk winning, i usually get 3 arbites and they and their dog army do everything

experience the game? nah dog i got 7 teammates

6

also cant get healthbars to work so im sad.

game keeps crashing

most of the mods i see are

i do like the better descriptions though as a new player

[frail citrus]

i like running healthbars because its really helpful for picking out priority targets

[icy gulch]

AH devil claw is the name i feel embarassed

[tall torrent]

We just call it DC sword

[frail citrus]

i would much rather use my full charge plasma shot on a full HP enemy than one thats on the verge of death

[icy gulch]

i just was a borderlands junkie bad in ye olden days so i need to see my numbers

whats yalls recommendation on the mark for dc

[tall torrent]

VII

Best rn

Moveset is peak

[icy gulch]

7 and 1 seem identical but im missing something

[tall torrent]

It just needs more armor damage

[icy gulch]

attack chains dont really matter then?

[tall torrent]

they are slightly different

[tall torrent]

they do

[narrow frost]

certain attacks have more damage

and only assessable through movesets

[icy gulch]

i was going primarly off of attack chains for finding out the purpose of a weapon lol

[narrow frost]

and certain attacks deal different kinds of damage

[tall torrent]

don't count on in-game attack tables too much

[narrow frost]

most heavy attacks do more armor damage

[tall torrent]

the numbers can be

inaccurate at times

[icy gulch]

now we on malice

[tall torrent]

and no mod addresses this

[icy gulch]

aha still but a fledgling

[tall torrent]

(and yes it's been inaccurate since game launched back in Nov2022)

[icy gulch]

am sad

[tall torrent]

it also doesn't account for all attacks a weapon can have

[frail citrus]

well you can keep letting your team take enemies from you that you thought were full, i'm going to be maximizing efficiency for myself

[tall torrent]

and doesn't tell u that much overall

[icy gulch]

melee is really indepth huh

i watched SirDemetrious videos on this game and he definitely had the same go around

thought it was simple, definitely isnt simple lmao

[tall torrent]

this is as basic of an introduction I can give to devil's claw 1's regular attacks

and this still excludes a lot of info (mainly cleave distribution profiles)

[icy gulch]

jesus

[tall torrent]

ofc some weapons are super simple

like duelling sword

[frail citrus]

DSWORD IS ACTUALLY

[tall torrent]

so simple even a psyker main can use it

[frail citrus]

THE MOST COMPLICATED

SKILL BASED WEAPON

IN THE GAME

[tall torrent]

this is duelling sword IV's moveset

[frail citrus]

and honestly too

[tall torrent]

and then this is power sword VI

[frail citrus]

you're usually only using the heavies

[tall torrent]

I think relic blade might end up >1 page

It has basically the same chaining stuff from the 2 special activation animations like power sword VI but with extra stuff like sprint attack and block affecting which special animation it uses

[frail citrus]

relic blade can be a paaaain to learn

you think you have it until you go to make a move and it does the wrong thing

and then you are dead

[tall torrent]

All that effort just to be not as good as power sword in the end

[frail citrus]

i miss when the overcharge blessing or whatever was called was good

before the class reworks even came out 😔

not that i uhhh

want to go back to the old class system

[icy gulch]

so if im going on a more support style build, what kind of weapons and stats should i worry about?

[frail citrus]

you should try to have your weapons fill a "role" for killing

you want to be able to switch between your weapons and eliminate a threat

if both of your weapons cant do a certain job or eliminate something effectively, then theres a problem

otherwise there is no wrong choice i think

i roleplay with the cadian chainsword which a lot of people in this chat shit on a lot and do just fine

im not taking it into havoc or anything but im still killing efficiently with it

[tall torrent]

What’s “support” to u

[icy gulch]

defensive utility, giving teammates toughness

[frail citrus]

so voc

power sword VOC is how i learned to play the game

well after VOC got added

before then it was exe stance with recon lasgun

[tall torrent]

Take VoC
Then go kill things

[icy gulch]

i just killed the twins while using voc, boltgun and dc

[faint beacon]

Devils Claw

holy based

[icy gulch]

so is there a particular weapon type thats good against armor? I assume lasguns and like mauls/clubs

[faint beacon]

Lasguns usually suffer against armor

[frail citrus]

lasguns aren’t that great against armor i’ve found

[faint beacon]

unless its the helbore

[icy gulch]

ohhh

[frail citrus]

heavy recon on maulers isn’t as bad as you think too

[atomic void]

over here no one really plays support

everyone builds for dmg and your support is killing things

[faint beacon]

Support is kill it before it becomes an issue

[icy gulch]

ik it would be pretty simple just to do some sniper esc build

[atomic void]

like the biggest support u can do is spam voc

[frail citrus]

you should try helbore i think

it’s pretty fun and pairs well with VOC cdr

[icy gulch]

yeah i've been doing voc and just helpin teammates not get swarmed

trying to juggle teammate toughness

[frail citrus]

VOC is cool for starting out too because it encourages you to pay attention who’s in coherency with you and what their toughness is

[atomic void]

the game just favors killing things as fast as humanly possibly so every class just builds for max dps

[frail citrus]

helps you learn how to pay attention to your team

[icy gulch]

exactly

[frail citrus]

unless you’re spamming it then not so much but in lower levels i found myself doing it more and more

paying attention that is

[icy gulch]

and most guide videos i watched included teamwork and communication

[frail citrus]

wellll

if it’s pub gl with that

[icy gulch]

i've been in some lobbies where we kinda stick together

k i n d a

[frail citrus]

it does get better the higher the difficulty lol

plus the higher the difficulty the more incentive to stay closer

more danger…

[icy gulch]

exactly

i've always been a support player through in through

but the idea to make my teammates "gooder" at killing things is really appealing

[frail citrus]

yeah VOC is what you want then

if you have arb too nuncio aquila does that too kinda

[icy gulch]

i feel like CC is REALLY important

knockdown, stagger, rend even though thats more armor stuffs

offensive utility

[tall torrent]

Melee?
Pretty much everything excluding chainsword, DC sword and tac axe

[frail citrus]

chain sword is not as bad as people make it out to be

against armor it can be tough

i like it as a horde clear

[icy gulch]

assault chainaxe numbers dont seem horrible on armored enemies

carapace ehhh it suffers but like flak armor

[frail citrus]

chainaxe is a valid choice

my thing with it

it’s the stupidest looking weapon in the game

[icy gulch]

but

deli meat

deli meat

:C

BUTCHER

[frail citrus]

it’s a nice concept

but for me it’s too square

[icy gulch]

judging by your pfp, you are indeed a fan of round things

taking a peak at arbites class chat and its just csgo

the same class that steals all my mfkin ammo

[frail citrus]

arbites are fun in squad when they aren’t complaining abt what other people are playing

[frail citrus]

i just think the chainaxe is TOO square lol

like the handle looks like it shouldn’t have good balance with that big ass axe head

[icy gulch]

this is fair

[hybrid plover]

i hate havoc gunner spawns

[icy gulch]

i hate heretics

but here we are

[covert fable]

I think I know why

I saw like 12 red beams all firing at you

[hybrid plover]

that was fucking brutal

i was doing so well too

OTL

[tall torrent]

what havoc are yall doing

[covert fable]

We were doing 40

;_;

[tall torrent]

how far did u make it

[covert fable]

Halfway..?

I'm not sure

But that shit is horrifying

[hybrid plover]

honestly forgot exactly which map it was lmao

the one with the mid event where you have to move the train by putting the two power cells in

believe it was ascension riser

[covert fable]

Yeah

Ascension something

[tall torrent]

ascension riser

[hybrid plover]

but we got to the cross to that ramp and the game just decided to spawn gunners on both sides

there was just no cover to take whatsoever and we got pincered instantly

i was playing on near 200ms ping so i was sweating my ass off and playing as carefully as i could

with shovel vet nonetheless lmao

[hybrid plover]

it honestly wasn't the worst on that run

it was just one of those cases where the ai director knew exactly what to throw at that particular point in the map to cause problems and it did.

[sonic kayak]

By the third medicae

We got to the ramp at the end of that large room

Gunner platoon on that ramp + gunner squad from the door to the left

[hybrid plover]

it also spawned some behind us

[sonic kayak]

Yeah, it was a 3 way and not the fun kind

[hybrid plover]

it's why crunchie saw me get absolutely shredded out of nowhere

slide dodging didn't even matter because the very frame that the slide stopped, my toughness broke

[sonic kayak]

I tried to rush those gunners on the ramp

but the gunners from the other 2 directions lit me up

I slid back behind the train car but lo and behold, that third spot of gunners behind us

[hybrid plover]

i am genuinely shocked i pulled through as much as i did with the latency tho

[sonic kayak]

honestly

The spawns were good

[hybrid plover]

it was just

[sonic kayak]

All the way up until that moment

[hybrid plover]

that specific spawn

it was perfectly catered to that part of the map

[sonic kayak]

[hybrid plover]

funny thing is when we were first going through that cross, in my head i was thinking

"it's too quiet"

[sonic kayak]

Me too lmao

I was like "ok usually there's a bunch of gunners around here"

we were all playing really careful too

We were even reluctant to attack that patrol in front of us without being able to back up

[hybrid plover]

i hop back on

i play an auric maelstrom to chill

poxburster modifier

okay

rumbler ogryn that literally wipes the entire team

okay

i'm so tired of it

if all else please just nerf the rumbler fatshark i'm begging you

[sonic kayak]

If you'd like, I can run some games with ya

[hybrid plover]

ye sure

[sonic kayak]

Auric and chill?

After we disbanded earlier, I joined a different group of friends

I changed characters, accept the mission

Got booted back to operator select but unable to press reconnect, and then game froze

[hybrid plover]

Fatshark be fatsharking

oshit hold up

dinner dun

quesadillas

[sonic kayak]

[steep flower]

H sword too

[icy gulch]

heya im having a problem gettin mods to work, could someone help me real fast? idk what chat to go to but everytime im specifically in this veteran chat, yall are the coolest

[steep flower]

You better check if your front door is proper closed tonight…

[icy gulch]

yeah

oh wow

so i have the mod loader i think, i can toggle the mods on and off, and i believe i have the framework because i can access the menu in game

however whenever i try to load in with any mod, i've even tried with just healthbars, i get a specific message and my game instantly diarrheas all over the emperors desert plate

GUID: 05b97e37-53bf-4a16-9a9f-8a3dca57359b
Log File:
Info Type:

[Script Error]: [string "./mod_loader"]:240: attempt to index field 'hook' (a nil value)

eh i'll just figure out in that discord

[tall torrent]

are u using the latest mod loader version

[icy gulch]

i'll try. i mean i just downloaded it today so i think so

i may have fixed it

i may or may not feel stupid

yeah i feel stupid

my dummy poopoo head was up at 2am trynna get it to work and i accidentally for some stupid reason deleted the dmf out of mods

🙂

[tall torrent]

is it working now

[icy gulch]

it hasnt crashed so i think so

[tall torrent]

ok for basic mods I recommend

creature spawner

[icy gulch]

i got health bars because of dopamine reasons

[tall torrent]

show_remaining_dodges

[icy gulch]

dodges are different? I thought we all had like 2 or sum

im dumb

[tall torrent]

yes it's diff depending on ur in hand weapon

[icy gulch]

oh

oh that looks super helpful

[tall torrent]

also get creature spawner 100%

[icy gulch]

why tho :l

[hybrid plover]

because you can actually

do things

in the psykanium

[tall torrent]

so u can practice fighting diff enemies

[icy gulch]

that is completely fair

[hybrid plover]

rede

oh cool

maelstrom is literally the worst modifier

yippeee

[icy gulch]

so ya know that weapons customization mod? I see you can add in flashlights. does that screw with already present flashlights on some of the guns?

[hybrid plover]

not really, no

just gives you the option to put flashlights on weapons that don't have it

[tall torrent]

it's unstable and may crash ur game
it also breaks very often from updates

[hybrid plover]

yea

it's why i dont use it anymore

[icy gulch]

oh i'll stay away from it

alright got like 6 mods lets see if it starts up

gets 17 viruses

will all mods i get be listed in mod options?

[tall torrent]

almost all should

[sonic kayak]

FUCK

SLOTTING

[sonic kayak]

kk gimme a sec

[calm shard]

https://imgur.com/a/LxhEst9

[sonic kayak]

TWICE

today

this has happened to me with an overhead

[icy gulch]

if i said skill issue

would you be upset

[sonic kayak]

I'm upset at dodging to the side of one overhead and getting slotted by a second crusher slotting into the space I just dodged into, negating my effort

[frail citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/luc-besson-leon-the-professional-check-the-door-open-the-door-gif-22429072

oh it will be

ill make sure of it

question

how much stamina is this

very high 420 that got rounded? i thought they only went to 420

[covert fable]

hes spectating me

[barren cave]

How exactly did they nerf the old Columnus iag

[tame lodge]

They really didn't

Last nerf was ages ago

They removed 1 unit from the CRIT string

Unless you're using the current Columnus

Which then

Fatshark nerfed Columnus by giving its name to Graia Autogun

Which is the worst one of the three

And the old Columnus became Vraks

[tall torrent]

btw

in RT there's a 2-handed power sword that scales armor ignore and deflection ignore based on dogmatic rank

lowkey want to make a build around that thing

[covert fable]

ok the chaos attack patterns are not too bad now

[tall torrent]

ok now go fight 2 at once

[covert fable]

.__.

do you have a video of u doing that

[tame lodge]

Another dogmatic run huh

Eyes of Joy

Sword

The boots that scales dodge

With dogmatic

[tall torrent]

I think I actually do

can't find it rn

[covert fable]

oh alr

thats fine

i managed to solo kill the chaos

took up the ENTIRE psykanium and like 20hp remaining 😂

[tall torrent]

https://youtu.be/3hclJz-uAfo?si=MpKlqLW-oSDJSmeE

pretty slow tho

[covert fable]

thats still insane

[tame lodge]

Hmmm maybe I should go Dogmatic again

[tall torrent]

don't wanna play psyker

[tame lodge]

I haven't played a Santic RT yet

[tall torrent]

boring origin

also psyker's drip in RT is awful

negative aura

[tame lodge]

Just go Solomon's armor

[tall torrent]

solomon vhyr's armor?

it's not as good as the last tempestus armor tho

[tame lodge]

Yeah

[tall torrent]

vhyr armor is coercion/15

[tame lodge]

It gets a few tubes as psyker

[tall torrent]

tempestus is carousse/10

and has a better side effect

+30% dodge

[tame lodge]

I found surprising that they had variations for psyker

[tall torrent]

as opposed to perplex for human enemies

vhyr armor actually trolling cuz

by the time u get it (normally)

there are like

zero human enemies left for u to fight

lmfao

it's all xenos at that point

[tame lodge]

😭

[barren cave]

I'm using ws with shout and smokes, I want shredder nades but pathing is kinda tricky

[tall torrent]

have to toybox cheese and get everything from start
then it's alr

but tempestus armor still better tbh

even tho heavy armor's dodge sucks ass

[tame lodge]

Don't think I'm capable of getting everything strong from lvl 1

[tall torrent]

with +30% dodge it actually stops being completely ass

[tall torrent]

I just toybox now

[tame lodge]

Kinda defeats the purpose of feeling the progress

[tall torrent]

not bothered to loot everything all over

[tame lodge]

Although I do use ToyBox to get rid of traumas

Dogshit mechanic

[tall torrent]

I wonder what happens if u reach true love with multiple companions and use toybox to remove jealousy

do u get true romance endings for everyone u romance? or just one

[tame lodge]

Good question

[tall torrent]

I'm on a new playthrough rn

arbitrator subductor
warrior
arch militant

maul + shotpistol
double barrel shotgun + gunner shield

[tame lodge]

I'm going to buy Lex Imperialis just so I can make a Bladedancer Arbitrator

[tall torrent]

if u run DB shotgun + gunner shield

[serene bough]

are the rogue trader DLCs good

[tall torrent]

u essentially get Doom the dark ages

in a cRPG

[tall torrent]

yes

[tame lodge]

Void Shadows is excellent

I don't have Lex Imperialis so idk much about it

[tall torrent]

I haven't played through the whole lex imperialis dlc yet

this playthrough I'm literally benching everyone but RT + cassia

except act 3

where everybody goes to ||commoragh||

[tame lodge]

I thought about going act3 solo

[tall torrent]

got the expanded party slot mod just for that

[tame lodge]

But I just love my retinue so much

[tall torrent]

bringing all of them there to get all of their unique storylines

[tame lodge]

Pretty sure you don't get all the options to fix them

So you have to ToyBox it away

[tall torrent]

no I mean

I will literally board that ship with like 10+ companions

everybody up to act3 start, I'm bringing there

so I get all of their personal storylines

also @tame lodge there's an item in lex imperialis DLC that's super op

[tame lodge]

Of course there is

Comically unbalanced game

I love it

[tall torrent]

||there's a trinket that can only be equipped on RT
and it adds +1 to every skill, for every 10 PF u have
even if u progress the game normally ur prob gonna end up with like 160+ smth PF
but if u toybox cheese u can give urself like 8000000 PF at the start of the game resulting in like 800000 carousse which gives tempestus armor 80000 deflection
then u use helbrute trophy ability to drop deflection & armor to buff dmg
result is ludicrously high dmg||

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/10477307459918186499/EF79EF763C85E0AE3969FC1E16D064551F0AC4BF/
act 1

[serene bough]

what is this damage

why are you doing 1k at act 1

[tall torrent]

click the spoiler message above

[serene bough]

oh lol

i see

[tame lodge]

Bro has conviction 5 at act1

[tall torrent]

this is not affected by conviction
I just cheese to have full builds at start

not bothered to loot all that

[serene bough]

8hp

that prisoner never knew what hit him

[tame lodge]

Probably some gate

[tall torrent]

the consequences of rebelling against the imperium be like

[serene bough]

the overkill is probably lore accurate anyways

[tame lodge]

Also is that a shovel?

💀

[covert fable]

is there a way to like change the map in the psykanium

[serene bough]

no

[tall torrent]

no
DLC weapon, the equivalent of DT's arb maul

[covert fable]

aw

i wanted to fight bosses on maps

[tall torrent]

The best thing about the lex imperialis DLC is that u can use gunner shield + shotgun

Gunner shield’s makes shotgun reloads cost 0 AP

So u can literally role play ur guy as that guy in the new doom game with shotgun + shield

[tame lodge]

I've seen what shotguns can do

(Double Barrel Argenta)

[tall torrent]

They added more equipment for melta

But

Melta still kinda bleh

Same for plasma

Tho pasqal with plasma on a bounty hunter build is alr

[icy gulch]

i swear i saw a arbite with a pistol and shield

i am intrigued

[tall torrent]

Shotpistol & shield

[icy gulch]

seems.... dare i say.... useful

[tall torrent]

It’s ok

[icy gulch]

im sure its decent but its just visually really cool

[tame lodge]

Afaik it can 2 shot most stuff at mid range

2 shot

With 5 bullets on the mag

💀

Learned with the french

[sharp epoch]

on malice its op 😤

[serene bough]

wait til you try on uprising

[hollow ibex]

i took it once on sedation, it's good

[icy gulch]

whats the plasma gun good at?

all i see is haha big funny number

[hollow ibex]

Killing elites and specials through hordes

Not great against ogryns and bosses though

[icy gulch]

mmmm

i never planned on being the boss killer anyways B)

leave that to the randoms

famous last words

kinda stuck between boltgun and plasma gun

[sharp epoch]

what difficulty

[icy gulch]

idk not really any just kinda like em both

[tall torrent]

Hipfire headshot vs human enemies (except mutant)

[sharp epoch]

if its any bolter is just more fun to use

[icy gulch]

yeah im learning that

idk how to use the charge mechanic

[tall torrent]

Don’t

[icy gulch]

i exploded :C

[tall torrent]

Yea don’t use the charge shot on plasma

[calm shard]

no reason to use it outside of doing meme exe plasma

because right click goes through most walls

[icy gulch]

yeah i've just been using boltor

i might use a dueling sword or whatever its called but i just cant fit it in anywhere

[uncut bluff]

Is recon Laz viable for later levels of havoc with vet?

[junior grail]

Yea why not

Saves a lotta ammo

Especially with Shocktrooper talent

[uncut bluff]

I’m not sure I’ve been stuck at 21 for havoc and can’t seem to gain anything other than that plus my teammates on havoc have such under utilized builds

[junior grail]

Problem solved

[junior grail]

Havoc in general needs everyone to be in their best form and compensating for each others weaknesses... unless you're some beast of a player that can run any build.

[uncut bluff]

That’s fair plus we’ll get two bosses at once and they keep pushing up making another spawn which usually destroys the run

[blissful stump]

hey im trying to make a high havoc build could i ask for some opinions on this? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f9d434b-cdcf-4ffe-a690-402e53081090/grennadier-shout-havoc-40 (If needs be im open to swapping the combat blade to something preferrably not the dueling sword)

[uncut bluff]

I’d say take out the top part of the tree and use the top right side so you have better toughness buildup since the lower part of the build focuses on killing elites and getting the top right section grants more toughness per kill

[narrow frost]

no gunner res is a chocie

[blissful stump]

it sure it

[narrow frost]

center or right side top is preference

depends on how well you can kill either elites/specials or horde

[uncut bluff]

Also speck a little into the left side of the bottom right so you have actual use for your melee weapon

[blissful stump]

i mean this is def more elite/special focuses

[blissful stump]

could also honestly just swap the melee tbh, the guns already somewhat high mobility

[uncut bluff]

Your knife should be used only for add clear and armored enemies because bleed is good for both

The knife is the most mobile melee weapon in game since you can run with it charging a heavy attack

[blissful stump]

yeah im aware

[uncut bluff]

It’s just up to what you want your melee to focus towards then

[tame lodge]

Bleed propaganda

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[grand perch]

Oh look it's the cursed bolter

[uncut bluff]

I don’t care much for bleed but shredder grenade is still the best one

[tame lodge]

Yeah but lacerate still is

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[uncut bluff]

Fair

[blissful stump]

Eh I could swap in the chainsword and go full commisar

No clue how to build it but its an option lol

[uncut bluff]

I just wish vet had zealots big chain sword

So much more deadly

[tame lodge]

Just do yourself a favor
Go Power Sword 6

[uncut bluff]

Eh power sword each time I’ve used it felt limp

[blissful stump]

Fair, whats it perks and blessing?

[tame lodge]

Power Cycler
Brutal Momentum

[hybrid plover]

or here's a thought