#veteran-class
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So now I can just play whatever I want
Veteran
Probably yeah
Melk does indeed bring all the +3 stamina curios to the yard
The bessstt
he can give max curios you just need to be lucky
Oh okay good
Moebian armor is too cool on vet to not play vet
I thought I was stuck getting max curious from mission
Showww
then i'm just really unlucky because this mf never gives me any good curiouses
cut-throat is too cool to not play vet
brunt got me covered tho 
Donβt remind me I have to still do those havoc penances
You can also keep an eye brunts. I had a legendary day where I got 3 x +3 stam curios in a day 
All 410+ rated
Wtf
The God-Emporer was calling to me. He wanted me to run deadshot
Whats that
I find that voice so annoying that it occasionally is a reason not to play vet
holy shit finally
someone else who thinks cutthroat is annoying
NO CADIA?
Node that buffs your crit chance but costs stamina
I unironically despise cuthroat
Ohhhh, the alt aim one?
im a kasrkin fan and do love my boi
even if no one loves him
i will keep loving him
Where the vet
No you're not alone, the creator of the vet guide uses Cutthroat but constantly marks enemies to avoid the whining he constantly does
I like the skin on the left
Next to oggie
Oh
I use Loose Cannon cause it fits the Steel Legion type more
Far left is psyker
The eyes look cool
for me it's the "Maul" for arbites
like holy shit that bad impression of christian bale batman is off-putting
Yeah the helm is rlly nice
the problem with cutthroat imo is that the mf tries way too hard
That and Constant hatred towards everyone including his Lexmates
incredibly annoying
I like maul because he takes himself so seriously that it isn't serious
He doesn't hate
He wants everyone to be the lex
i love hating everybody
BE ADAMANT!!!!!!!!!
hes just like me fr
the irony of me saying they try way too hard when it's a warhammer game of all things but still, cutthroat feels shallow as hell compared to the other vet personalities
i'd say cutthroat is deeper than the other personalities
Yeah. They just keep whining that Cadia is gone.
they should've gotten Val Kilmer to do the Maul personality
oh wait
cadia or how nobody can be trusted and how everything sucks, on repeat
Like, okay we get it. Do you have something else to say?
"God I wish cadia was still cadian-ing around these cadianite cadians."
i'm unironically saying that
and that's why i love loose cannon
professional is boring, loose cannon is a stereotype
The armour looks generic but the helm hella nice
Professional is a standard gaurdsmen
Loose cannon is a standard gaurdsmen in like a rogue trader session
Sometimes, armour being generic is good.
he's my favorite type of warhammer character, the one that knows the universe they're in is batshit insane and try to make their way around that
Yeah it's not bad
I'm fine with the generic armor.
I like the gaurdsmen who are gaurdsmen
Lol
Well I mean when you pay attention to LC's more rare dialouge you can clearly tell they have personal demons they dont want to talk about
Yeah
Who wouldn't have them.
I like the arbites personalities because like
Its 2 autists
And one dude who is tired of dealing with autists
ok i haven't heard those
So about the Authoritarian?
Authoritarian and maul are the autists
He gets super tilted over one of the Zealots saying he lacks faith cause of him experiencing his entire platoon die in front of him
oof
Probably the few times he's more serious instead of constantly joking
Authoritarian is my ice queen π
Oh yeah, i heard that one
which vet was it that screams about cadia every 4 seconds?
Fatalist is the dude who signed up and then realized that the adeptus arbites are full of those other two personalities and now wants to work alone so the other two don't start talking about paperwork for 4 hours again
Cutthroat
don't like him
cutthroat
well he doesn't like you either π
Cutthroat
is it the "where was the emperor when i was drowning in my platoon's blood" interaction ?
He's a Realist but follows the Law, LC is a Realist but actively breaks the law to live
shockingly they somehow get along
I like cadia
Whats the red riding hood zealot skin called?
Female Maul tho, damn
Step on me
I don't like them making the imperial guard only about cadia
mayflies.....
Correct
I mean a lot can happen but Iβm usually running away 
I like both mauls smh
this is exactly why i take male maul
he's so over the top
maul is a funny one
You'll hear his more serious side with Fatalist also seeing they both agree on viewpoints 90% of the time
yeah, like i mentioned before, he's a sane person in a very insane reality, it's refreshing to see that kind of thing imo
m fatalist my beloved
There are way more interesting Guard Regiments out there.
the hound wont trouble us now
Same bestie
Cadians are somehow, SOMEHOW, your standard soldier.
When they are supposed to be the Elite.
its funny
:D
they refuse to fix a lot of things anyways
the grenade quote lol
WILL TAM- WILL TAME THE-
is the hound one also bugged or was that intentional
bugged
where he repeats the line twice
Wym
Bugged
how can it be intentional
but its clearly him doing a retake
A lot of the dialog is either buggy or uses incorrect subtitles
bugged
Kind of depends
insulting the maul
mandated edict: mauling
Do you always play as a female in these games, where you get to choose your gender? Is there something you need to tell us, son?
cadian 8th is the "elite" standard cadian
mandated edict: 12 years in a zero twelve facility
every other cadian or similar to cadian regiment are trying to live up to the standard of the 8th
mandated eddict: a good kicking
you can like certain VAs without wanting to be a woman damn vro π
mandated edict: bullet shield
Maul is just that one guy who is too happy to be doing his job
Meanwhile authoritatian is too happy to be at his job
I appreciate them both for that
i like the fatalist because he sounds like a cop stereotype
I'll be honest I think Authoritarian is just relatively green
Ironically the only thing that pisses me off with any of the personalities is when fatalist gets praised and is like "erm its not that deep"
in the sense he's new
i like him bc "JUDGEMENT IS HERE LEXBREAKERS!"
"I WILL RUN YOU DOWN!"
"YOU CAN RUN. PLEASE DO, IT MAKES IT FUN!" also goes hard
"I AM RELENTLESS"
Im gonna keep shilling why I like maul
tbf, a lot of them do that
"I SEE YOU, I WILL BRING YOU DOWN"
Maul:
Lets you know he is the lex
Wants you to be in the lex
Wants you to know he is doing good in the name of the lex
Wants you to also do good in the name of the lex
only men can receive the gene-seed of their Primarch to become space marines
what did james workshop mean by this
Hes like the campy kind of dude you can impress by being equally as zealous as him
Which...is why he likes the zealots
she is not shouting
Nah she just got that main character energy
unacceptable
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"THE LEX IS THE LEX" from her is so full of mood that it wraps back around to being about as appropriate as everyone else's lines
female seer is woefully underutilized ngl
no joke, i have over 244 hours in this game and i have only seen female seer being used like, twice
it's almost always the other two personalities
savant especially
I have over 2000 hours in this game and I switch the names and personalities of my characters on a regular basis.
Yet I've never once had a female character.
sometimes male loners
very rarely do i see female loners
shame
i like that voice
which is a good thing because shes insufferable lol
it never crossed my mind to make a female character
which, now that I think about it, is kind of weird
My brother does.
First character was a Cutthroat vet.
Now I have a female judge
Male seer
Male fanatic
Female professional
And two Ogryns.
no
cadia cadia cadia shut up
Cutthroat slander on the big 25
Anyways
Fem Cutthroat
She growls when Arby's talks to her
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male one does so too
which i'll admit is one of the few cutthroat interactions that gets a chuckle out of me
cadia or how nobody can be trusted and how everything sucks, on repeat ad nauseum
even the professional has more personality and the dude is the equivalent of a cardboard cutout
the full line is "cadia stands united" but his mic cut off before he could say "united"
which is fucking peak
so?
it's grating
i love when he says CADIA SENDS ITS REGARDS
i feel like Maul does the same thing as the cutthroat but actually better
What π
IF YOU CAN BREATHE YOU CAN KILL
"You're not the talkative type"
"Fem cut growls"
"I'll take that as a yes"
"Fem cut growls"
peak
peak fr
This is peak darktide
Is this veteran
man spitting the fax
My favourite personality is the enforcer psyker
man reads everyone like a book
without even having mind reading powers
i dont trust anybody so my character neither
Yeah one of the interactions between one of the arbitrator personalities and female cutthroat
Which is also a ripoff from Zealot and Fem Cutthroat interaction
Isnt seer basically just feugsonas
Except she doesn't like Arby's
Good
Someone play arby with me,I want to see this growlll
nah, veteran with war trauma that caused him to shut himself off from everyone else, and a cop who revels in getting a reason to beat someone to a pulp
The LC to arbi relation is "you are a cop and I am crime inclined" basically
just play as arbites and hope one of the bots ends up as cutthroat
oh
Yes
Its funny cause auth and cut get along
The interactions are pretty cool
i think cutthroat and maul get along very well too?
I think so
Good
Bully just kinda hates arbites pre emptively but they gave him more depth because of yhat I'd say
idk if liking an ogryn is based tho
to be fair, everyone gets along with the ogryns
maul:D
Bullt hates arbs
I mean like all 4 who hate each other
Maul doesn't actually hate ppl though
Dislike
Hes just super serial
daylight is overrated
my maul said "you are disgusting" to an ogryn
When lol
or "ogryn is dead how sad. Nevermind."
chad
when he talked about his worms thing
being nice to an ogryn is just the smart thing to do lol, if i had an 8ft tall giant wall of meat and muscle to protect me, i would try to get on their good side too
he calls savant psyker worthless for abandoning the enforcers
....
shares disgusting fact
"Ew"
surprised
.
Even savant psyker doesn't wanna deal with the worms man π
nice communication skills bro
Auth is like 3rd nicest
idk how to spell that
auth is joy incarnate
"DO YOU LIKE TO SING" is my favourite
Ironically male savant like tries to talk to him about it and then auth doesn't know what to do
Fem auth likes hanging out with oggies
Im kind of sad that the happy scale seems so inverted with the arbites
which yeah, makes sense that a guy who was beaten over the head with a lawbook since childhood wouldn't know how to express himself
Auth <- maul <- fatalist
@earnest barn That is why i like her.
No im saying
Auth is CONSTANTLY
Trying to share the music passion
And then male savant goes "so I heard you like singing"
Every Arbitrator went through the same process.
And male auth instantly goes "uhm erm idk uhm"
They all went through the Schola Progenium.
Yeah but auth was a defacto orphan
Given that, the Authoritarian is the most sane of them all.
wtf
"I bet you got daddy issues lmfao"
"Uh no the emperor was there in spirit"
"Lol okay whatever"
Type shit
I was laughing my ass off when I heard that bro
that's wild considering male seer is usually pretty nice to everyone
Nah seer is like
Good thing the Arbitrator has the right and authority to just shoot them. And no one would care. Really.
That's crazy
(Male seer at least) is the barely veiled niceness that people who have superiority complexes sometimes get
Fem seer is nice because she's an old crazy coot
Seer is the one that constantly talks about his/her beloved right?
They are just crazy lunatics.
he never struck me as having a superiority complex tbh, i always thought he was genuinely pretty nice when not tweaking
Female Seers are mostly Sienna impostors
What class is that
Psyker
psyker
Oh
Fem seer is nice and kind
Sounds sad
Like both seers are very polite
that beloved is actually implied to be the emperor or at least a shard of his consciousness at several points
i'll leave the implications of that up to you
loner psykers are full superiority complex
They have that but they also don't hide it
and disdain for everyone else(for good reason)
They have that whole "you gotta earn my trust" thing
I have a love hate thin w/ loner
it's a 40k game that doesn't involve space marines, that's to be expected
I liked them cause they were funny
And then I hated them because how tf are they alive
I got into warhammer from space marines but I like this more now lol
And then I liked them again because its aparent that they do their damn job and thats why they are alive
that's the case for almost all of the rejects really
Sort of but loner is tge one where it stands out the most
true, the dude blatantly outright calls the emperor "corpse god" or carrion feeder
Like with the vet personalities:
Professional knows how to be a solider
LC has seen. A. Lot. And very often been the last one left.
Cutthroat...is cadian. Thats it thats what he is. He'll tell you, too.
and surprisingly doesn't get his head separated from his body by the zealots for it
LC is the definition of trying to cope with misery through humour
is there a video for all the dialogues
afaik no, but there are plenty of the individual interactions
i joke about the cutthroat and just said i find them annoying a few minutes ago, but the thing is
he does have depth, it's just really hard to look past the surface level
Even his depth is shallow man
He doesn't even have the excuse prof has of "normal guy"
still, under all that i really can't help but feel bad for them
cadians have no life other than being raised as a soldier from day one and their pride was basically everything, so really how else are they supposed to cope with their planet being lost other than turning entirely to their life as a soldier
I feel like a semidepressed kreiger would have filled that slot better
"I need more" but not in the excited khorn way, type shit
naaah, a krieger becoming a reject is basically impossible
Get low health "this is what it's about!"
Lol not even
All it takes is insubordination
Which isn't too uncommon with them
If you hold them back from being able to serve with as much zeal as the average kreiger prefers they get hella dejected
And if they think specifically you are the issue with that, it usually evolves into making sure you can't do that anymore
Hence foreign commisars and kreigers do not mix well at all
A kreiger getting sent to a "less active" front as punishment is iirc also not uncommon
being sent to a less active front is a blessing for a regular guardsman but a horrifying thought for a krieger
the fandom memes about them being nigh suicidal and exaggerates that a lot, but its frankly not that far off
they do want to die, but they want to die in a way that furthers a goal
there is actually an excerpt from a book somewhere where they find a wounded commissar and execute him instead of helping because they see him as "having already served his purpose"
shame not a whole lot of people look past the overdone shovel and trench memes or the surface level, because past that Krieg is such a fucking horrifying regiment lol
even by imperial standards
I mean most kreig fans get that
Issue is a lot of people see the word "kreig" and a gasmask and go "wtf germany"
Like bro this is ww1 not 2
And its not even specifically german
They're running around in german helmets with british masks and french coats
But because we didn't call them "kreauxg" that goes over people's heads
I hope they get voiced one day and have an OBNOXIOUSLY thick french accent
British would work but people would miss that since ao many brit accents are already everywhere
they do get voiced in the pariah nexus animation, but it's just british accents like everyone else
actually, while on the whole topic of kriegers
actually pray that fatshark makes a better cosmetic set for them because the one we have currently is so ass
like, brother, what the hell is this
The blue one is better but they need to lower the hemet over the goggles
It makes them look so dopey with the helmet that high up
the bag is also comically huge and theres not even a hose connecting it to the mask
Thats basically the main diff between that helm and this helm
And even this to the variant ingame
They NEED to lower the brim but they didn't
The technology just isn't there yet.
meanwhile the steel legion set is basically perfect
The low brim is so damn important to the overall look man
You could change tbe helmet entirely and as long as the brim was kept low people would go "oh that looks like kreig"
it looks wrong without the hose too
they did include a hose in one of the steel legion sets
one which i even own actually
Geeking out vs locked in
That glorious low brim π
was
it was being sold on the slop shop during the warhammer skulls event earlier this year
hold on, i think i have a old pic of my vet with it
old set had goggles down
Bruh I'd buy that in a heartbeat lol
Yeah but with the hose would of been cooler
THAT LOOKS SO FUCKING GOOD
Why is all the good cosmetics on when I take a breakkk
i feel proud of how far i've come with my boy
Oh that's fine, screw arbi
One in the middle
I like the claudettes helmet
Ogryn looks like he's about to mug u 3am in london
it's a shattered visor with one visible eye i think
One of the few non rediculous zealot versions too
Why not be nice to the 8 year old mentally super behemoth of meat and muscle that could turn you into paste if they wanted to, other than the fact they're mostly all big sweethearts that more often than not just straight up sacrifice themselves for their smaller friends to try and save them.
zealot headgear is either having a cage over your face, an eyepatch or a gimp mask
I feel like they are keeping cosmetics out of shop to keep us waiting and potentially on the game for longer e.e
fomo
i think once every two weeks every thursday
Also I swear all the skins are priced so u have to buy more currency than u need
They are lol
That's on purpose
you'd think letting people buy the stuff they want would be a better business tactic than blueballing everyone
It's so cheesy
They could have so many whales
But they choose whatever the hell this model is
FOMO is one of the best business ideas
Like even from a greed perspective this makes no sense
but its terrible
Nah because a lot of people who would have bought stuff just decided not to
I know so mamy mfs who get into the game
See the shop
Decide to wait for [specific set]
And aren't around when it finally comes back
Yeah
Dont get me wrong I bet there are some people who snap things up instantly, but I know too many people who just fell off the game entirely after realizing the cosmetic bs after hearing about the rotations and the fact that they will have no way of knowing when certain sets come back
Yeah this shids way too annoying
the people who give up their money outweigh the people put off by it unfortunately
I still have my lame ahh base game cosmetic
I doubt that ngl
In some other game like a gacha I bet it works super well
I have a desire to make all of my characters loadouts have a different cosmetic set with them too
A desire that I cannot fulfill because none of the cosmetics that I want are in the goddamn shop
Frankly I just want some cosmetics with sights on them for my weapons or something
Or ingame way to get sights
I'm being driven insane with only irons all the time
problem is with so many paid cosmetics if you had everything available at once, it contributes to decision paralysis
so also not the best idea business wise for that
okay fine keep the rotating slop shop for the guard regiment sets like the Kriegers, Elysians, or the recent Inquisition Agents
This CURRENT SETUP
And have the other slop be an actual store page that I can just browse
ALREADY CONTRIBUTES TO DECISION PARALYSIS
This is why picking the moebian asthetic was a superior choice
to the average player probably not
they see few choices and pick from one of those
The average player will:
See kreig
Buy kreig
See steel legion
Buy steel legion
The average darktide person generally knows what they want
And even specifically waits for that thing
FOMO works in theory but its horribly implemented in this game
Irregardless of the ethical implications of it.
Somehow warframe of all things made a rotating fomo store work better than this
AT A HIGHER PRICE POINT
yeah because 40K people are wanting to buy specific guard regiment cosmetics
for minis they own or they personally think are cool in the setting
Yep
Like there are so many things people just want to buy because they know they exist but because the rotation is so limited, they just have to wait, even though those people are gonna buy those cosmetics regardless.
I mean shit dude we can even have a full store page but have it be rotating discounts on cosmetics or something
that'd still be FOMO
It's just pointless how it's done in Darktide.
Literally the whole reason i got the steel legion set
I do love the people who complain the skins look stupid. Have you seen the minis? Do you know where you are?
I love them as a regiment
Nah the kreig pushback was valid
Krieg sets were completely valid
They got kinda neutered.
The issue is that in dt there's various "bits of trash stuck on you, but recolored" floating around too
Like bits of ceiling tile in the soup
Also unrelated.
I now understand why people say keystoneless vet can work.
There's barely anyone running the "little shitty bits" vets compared to oggies
(It also tends to just work way better on oggy)
Best way to slide it in tbh lmfao
It's unrelated to the topic to be fair!
wait what channel is this again 
I do find this hella unfortunate that it
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Works
You can straight up not bring a keystone and be about as efficient as picking a keystone
Just remove keystones
Yeah I did away with weapon spec on a build solely for the sake of having both the Stam delay nodes
Funny I never tried that after like
Nearly a thousand hours on Vet alone
And it feels so comfy.
This is so real
And people announcing their masturbatory habits for some reason?????
LMFAO
They had to make an entire announcement about that.
That would turn it into #zealot-class
So I'm not the only one who thinks that

Wait are you serious
Veteran channel is the sane channel
I'm dead serious.
Gold
This was a few weeks ago and I was just fucking speechless.
Behold the taint of tzeentch
I have an incredibly biased question
Yes.
Did rewdy have something to do with it
Likely candidate
Oh and this happened actually in one of the class chats
I am taking this, thank you very much
Can't remember but someone got disagreed with and they started calling other person a pedophile
They got banned.
So that's nice.
Wasn't that loosh person saying wild shit at some point
I think they got banned too
Loosh is still here tho
Oh
loosh is still here
A meme with an actual basis lmao
ProbBly
I was here from 2022 but I left server a bit ago
Me neither. I just have an autistic fixation with this game enough to desire talking here more frequently than any server I'm in
Ah yes. Another general chat trope.
I only speak in the servers where:
I rp
Or
I like the game
Femboys.

For some reason general talks about femboys decently often.
The entire general chat is -
Its better "now" than when I first joined
DD's raw schizophrenia beat the horny (mostly)
is DD diana
Naturally veteran channel is the most normal since only the most sophisticated players are vet mains
Moeb is ur pfp a rat

Warhammer 40k goontide
Ye
Nyn/Nazrin
Wa
Touhou creature
zealot chat being offtopic and/or questionable has been a constant since release
Tail showcase
I mean, its definitely in character if nothing else lmfao
lol
I love that dumbass podcast man
idk wtf happened to general chat, i just assumed it was always very whiny about the game
The game is worthy of whine tbf
Do people in general even play the game
Somewhat surprised to see adric mentioned here
Ah
oh no it is but i was referring to the kind of whining like when power sword got a slap on the wrist back in 2023
maybe i just underestimated how popular it is
This game gets less players than that podcast does views
If anything i expected more overlap
no way people actually listen to podcasts
Fair point yeah
I listen to it more for the comedy bits tbh, they tend to get shit wrong all of the time because accuracy is not their goal
Like whar
Most of the stuff thats wrong turns out to be basically not diving into niche details
Its one of the few I tune into
Yeah those podcasts are more brainrot than something chill to listen to
I used to listen to jre back when he was a caveman learning about life instead of
A caveman with strong opinions
Cause he'd have interesting ppl on (even if some were lunatics)
Wait what
I'd rather listen to mike tyson talking about tiger farts and his beleif in aliens than any of his political guests

Caveman podcast sounds nice
Thats what jre used to be
Along with radomzed chimpanzee discussions and queastions about various drugs
Unfortunately yeah
Now oprah for men fall in 2 camps
The moists
And the asmonds
But both aren't real podcasts
They're more like...a weird form of modern news
Except one podcaster is clean with a pottymouth and the other one is dirty and
Still dirty
you all know that one mission in the hourglass where you have to stop a heretic transmission ?
Omw to shut down an asmond stream
that was just the admonition transmitting asmongold videos into the vox net
Moeb is a jumpscare now
If Asmongold aligns to any chaos god, its definately Nurgle
100% nurgle
1000%

Just don't go into general chat, its always been a toilet
Yep, it's why I hang here or in Psyker
Rn gen is just some dude name moe baiting
Ah, ragebait
I see
does the term ragebait mean nothing to you people anymore
it has to be believable to be bait
Is then just comedic relief or slop?
I don't know the proper terminology in this day and age, as my brain reverts to it just being ragebait.
yeah a lot of people do this nowadays honestly
the internet really is rotting our brains ..
someone disagrees with me ? ragebait.
moe probably baiting tbf
Well its the term that's been used forever for actively trying to antagonize someone with (even obvious) remarks that are inflammatory
forever?
ive literally never seen the term ragebait be used until like,
2024?
maybe its some 4chan terminology that kinda just blew up i wouldnt know
Just wait till your starting number is 3 or 4 and it will get weirder when talking about internet culture that circles back
Meme's on ICanHazCheezeBurger (Or early 9gag) have slowly trickled back into cycle which is kinda funny to me
growing old is scary .
ive already spent like, the first fifth of my life doing nothing
It will get better, just don't overthink yourself into a spiral. XD
Hitting the big three zero this year.
I'm not looking forward to the back problems π₯²

My main suggestion is getting good shoes with good insoles if at all possible
i cant lie i was already getting back issues back when i was working at like, 16 
I have moderate scoliosis so I'm off to a great start.
That's rough
@orchid hemlock i've done it got every bullet count penance
Eh, it helps learning how to be your own chiropractor and having a partner that's willing to step on your back hard enough that it feels like it explodes at the equivalent force of a carpet bomb up your spine.
I think i have very mild scoliosis too but yours sounds rlly bad if you're having to do that π
"HUNNY, GET THE HAMMER"
"SPIDER OR YOUR BACK?"
"BOTH"
oh fuck I wish
I was diagnosed with sciatica but it always pops up
Genuinely considered rolling a sledge hammer over my back
I mean it does help to stretch regularly. The best thing you do for back problems like that is make sure that you try to keep a good posture with it.
You slump. And your spine adjusts to the slump and worsens.
Yeah I think with scoliosis is it'll keep progressing?
Yours sounds awful
Honestly.
I never had to do this but it's noticeable for me
It's not the worst.
One side of my back is stronger
Because again, I actively try to ward the issues away.
That's definitely helping
They're always gonna be there but that doesn't mean you have to accept them worsening.
Yeah
There is treatment but that's scary stuff lol
I'm pretty sure if you get imbalances on your back it'll affect ur other muscles and create a bad imbalance
Domino effect kinda
Ye. And of course it IS gonna probably worsen just by the nature of aging but, eh. Aging always comes with some kind of complication. Being a worrier about the inevitable does no good.
Yup just best to either get surgery or keep up the maintenance training
Glad to see ur not just giving up tho
Ya know. We were earlier talking about how general tends to turn into just, random shit about life and here we are in the vet chat talking about the complications of aging and mortality lmao
how old are you?
update on the older convo loosh is not here
Yeah
Woa
At least it stays cordial in here
These days it does
That means your prefrontal cortex is fully developed
It used to be a shitshow in here
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Hell, Zealot chat still is most of the time
@olive halo I'm back!
this is a dallas moment c:
you can probably tell but I always played dallas
What the heck! I'm a millennial >:O
fav heist?
onslaught goes so well with infantry autogun
but i feel bad for mag dumping into carapace
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i might dable into havok but im prob not ready for that
ill eat all the ammo
just power sword VI 24/7
huuh
well im trying to level up my shovel right now and i dont trust this thing to help against a crusher when he is charging an attack over me π
Push attack
Uncanny strike
yea havoc veteran is basically just that lol
mr incredible ..
i see his face whenever i hear uncanny strike mentioned
SILENCE
power sword / duelling sword / knife
so if u want to do actual dmg to mixed horde u have 1 option
the rot consumes
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That's your problem
You don't trust your weapons
It's all about that melee mindset
You will kill everything with your melee and you'll like it

othe shovel did better than i thought
Mk3 shovel is amazing
Shovel best melee on game cause the imperial guard said so
i took that before, it was nice
these hands
πΌ
god I read "eat these hands" because of your name
Hello - Returning Zel and need help
I started Havoc and it appears Zels get pushed into beacon w/ DS and flamer at later levels.
I have like 1k hours on a fury knife Zel, is this type of build just not gonna work well pushing to 40?
playable tho not recommended
mixed horde clear options like relic blade scales better for havoc if ur going for DPS zealot
Okay now we're steeping into zealot chat territory
I am sorry - I thought I was in Zel chat
Which shovel are you using?
thats not even zealot chat material
they do that shit in general
Oh no worries that's not even what I was talking about.
general constantly cycles between politics and degeneracy
1/3 if that helps
I've seen some unhinged shit in zealot chat too but you're also right too.
Everything works at H40 if you have the skills

That being said
1 has legit one of the best tools against crushers
Chorus is not that good
oh what
The special is not to be overlooked. Weak spot hit on crusher will stagger them right out of an overhead.
chorus with +30% dmg for team and piety with +10% crit chance for everyone else is very strong support
esp for psyker
And if you use skullcrusher, that also procs, meaning with uncanny, your push attacks can do some genuinely serious damage.
ooooh
wheeze
okay so stun with the special to proc skullcrusher?
Yes.
No one is picking Infectious Zeal
Despite Stalwart being pretty popular
Chorus is one of the best abilities in the game
What
Theyre both good for completely different reasons.
i just finished my game ill try it out in psykanium
i was using recon lasgun with deadshot
and i didnt go below 700 ammo the entire game it was so fun
recon lasgun is good but god is it boring
i think i was just holding down my trigger for like 30 seconds π
which shovel do you use gremlin?
Mk1
yes show us ur shovel setup
Honestly I just need to save these damn builds.
i think its a skill issue but im finding it hard to get dmg done with the mk1 to the armoured thingies π
oh i dont even have a melee build rn
epic
i just made this for my shovel
stagger with special, spam push attack
I'm gonna try some things on vet and see if they work out
I assume dump defense
are u using take a swing
This was what I was using yesterday
why not just go for focus target..
oog
just remove that node on the left
Because honestly, keystones aren't the biggest deal on Vet as opposed to other classes tbb
idek what stat that one gives but its not a talent so .
ough .
i never find myself having problems with stamina funnily enough
But it has a lot of value especially for push attacks.
i dont run the delay nodes either
huh
it should be part of vets base stats ..
should be basekit
oh true
Yep
arbi gets 0.5 delay for nothing
and psyker too π
You know what
Hot take.
yummer s
Psyker and arby should have the slower stamina delays.
And vet should have the fastest.
arby would make sense for sure
They're fucking soldiers.
idk why arby just. gets everything
They should make any two subnodes on infiltrate baked into the ability
$
does exe stance allow you to extend it with melee or is specifically only shooting
dumb question but it doens't say
because they (and ogryn) don't have as many tax nodes as the other classes
franky people would buy arby regardless of if they were busted or not
money is a funny argument but i dont think it applies at all
FRANKLY **
the initial design intent was that the minor nodes would allow you to "personalize" your base stats, but the reality of it ended up being that it just means you have to waste skill points on stats that you need to function
but its also apart of just stuff needing a baseline that hasn't been fully established just yet
Taxation is theft.
ogryn and arby's don't really have this problem
and they're the two msot recent skill trees we have
its getting there, but its not quite there yet
hhrgh
so any reworks to the other 3 are most certainly also going to do away with minor nodes as much as possible
okay the mk1 shovel is pretty fun
this working rlly wel
Special has a long reach too so it's a pretty safe attack to use.
yeah you can just bully a crusher
Basically the dueling sword special, if it was balanced.
I mean psyker in lore can fly
i wish there was a trench shotgun
i would love to run that with shovel
combat shotty will do
what are ur thoughts on uncanny + decimator instead of skullcrusher?
Yeah but that's not much to do with their physical strength and endurance.
isnt decimator the one that requires u to keep swinging
yes
Decimator is a weird one.
that ones kinda poopy from personal experience
I also assume there will be some sort of overhaul to vet in general simply because of how the oggy tree rework went (granted pbb is kinda aaaaaaaa)
in theory itd give u more strength but ??
i see the special attack stuns them which prob allows u to stack up decimator..?
but idk if decimator only works on one enemy
So in theory, it can result in more damage but you have to properly chain attacks. You miss, and you lose the stacks completely.
It works as long as youre chaining attacks.
But you have to hit them.
yeah skullcrusher probably more consistent
decimator is ok
it's just awkward
The only case use I can see for decimator being outright better is maybe for boss damage but
Honestly
and skullcrusher is op
You really don't want to be taking on bosses like that with shovel anyway
does it not lose all stacks when u stop swinging?
shovel is already a blessing centric weapon (u basically use it exclusively to have a weapon that has both uncanny and skullcrusher at same time)
i dont rlly see many times where u can just keep smacking at a boss without being knocked back or being forced to dodge out of range ..
Shout. Chorus.
Anything that can keep a boss staggered for a moment benefits decimator greatly.
Since there still is a time before the stacks run out.
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but also benefits skullcrusher significantly more
But if you miss an attack entirely, you lose the stacks.
lol
Yep.
it doesn't go away instantly ?
So its like

skullcrusher it iss
shovel so bad that it exists just so u can run 2 op blessings at the same time
peak design
It's weird. So for the stacks to run out, there is a small grace period.
But if you attack and fail to hit something, you will instantly lose them.
it's strong in general
tho idk wat this build is for
shovel and combat shotty π
ough..
i need to larp as trench infantry
99% of larp builds are ass in this game unfortunately
sadly
Just to mention, you can block cancel before the strike actually goes out to keep the stacks going but then you're wasting away that grace period
If I'll be completely honest
If you want strength
Use AoN
AoN?
Anyone ever seen this shit before?


