#veteran-class

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spare jolt
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yo crusher and combat shotgun arby is fun tho

ember nest
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So now I can just play whatever I want

covert fable
ember nest
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Probably yeah

normal bay
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Melk does indeed bring all the +3 stamina curios to the yard

covert fable
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The bessstt

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he can give max curios you just need to be lucky

covert fable
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Oh okay good

ember nest
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Moebian armor is too cool on vet to not play vet

covert fable
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I thought I was stuck getting max curious from mission

covert fable
earnest barn
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then i'm just really unlucky because this mf never gives me any good curiouses

spare jolt
earnest barn
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brunt got me covered tho thumbsup_ogryn

wheat palm
normal bay
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All 410+ rated

normal bay
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The God-Emporer was calling to me. He wanted me to run deadshot

covert fable
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Whats that

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earnest barn
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someone else who thinks cutthroat is annoying

normal bay
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I unironically despise cuthroat

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spare jolt
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im a kasrkin fan and do love my boi

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spare jolt
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i will keep loving him

covert fable
faint beacon
covert fable
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I like the skin on the left

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covert fable
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Oh

faint beacon
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I use Loose Cannon cause it fits the Steel Legion type more

ember nest
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Far left is psyker

covert fable
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The eyes look cool

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severe jolt
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for me it's the "Maul" for arbites
like holy shit that bad impression of christian bale batman is off-putting

covert fable
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Yeah the helm is rlly nice

earnest barn
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the problem with cutthroat imo is that the mf tries way too hard

faint beacon
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That and Constant hatred towards everyone including his Lexmates

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incredibly annoying

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I like maul because he takes himself so seriously that it isn't serious

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He doesn't hate

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He wants everyone to be the lex

spare jolt
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BE ADAMANT!!!!!!!!!

spare jolt
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hes just like me fr

earnest barn
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the irony of me saying they try way too hard when it's a warhammer game of all things but still, cutthroat feels shallow as hell compared to the other vet personalities

ember nest
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Cuttrhaot just

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Cadia

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Thats ut

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Thats all that voice is

hollow ibex
sudden cedar
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Yeah. They just keep whining that Cadia is gone.

severe jolt
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they should've gotten Val Kilmer to do the Maul personality
oh wait

earnest barn
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cadia or how nobody can be trusted and how everything sucks, on repeat

sudden cedar
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Like, okay we get it. Do you have something else to say?

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"God I wish cadia was still cadian-ing around these cadianite cadians."

hollow ibex
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i'm unironically saying that

earnest barn
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and that's why i love loose cannon

hollow ibex
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professional is boring, loose cannon is a stereotype

covert fable
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Professional is a standard gaurdsmen

Loose cannon is a standard gaurdsmen in like a rogue trader session

sudden cedar
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Sometimes, armour being generic is good.

earnest barn
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he's my favorite type of warhammer character, the one that knows the universe they're in is batshit insane and try to make their way around that

covert fable
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Yeah it's not bad

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I like the gaurdsmen who are gaurdsmen

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Lol

faint beacon
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Well I mean when you pay attention to LC's more rare dialouge you can clearly tell they have personal demons they dont want to talk about

ember nest
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Yeah

sudden cedar
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Who wouldn't have them.

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I like the arbites personalities because like

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Its 2 autists

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And one dude who is tired of dealing with autists

sudden cedar
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So about the Authoritarian?

hollow ibex
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cutthroat has something similar too

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does professional have anything like that?

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Authoritarian and maul are the autists

faint beacon
hollow ibex
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oof

faint beacon
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Probably the few times he's more serious instead of constantly joking

sudden cedar
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Authoritarian is my ice queen πŸ™‚

little path
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which vet was it that screams about cadia every 4 seconds?

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Fatalist is the dude who signed up and then realized that the adeptus arbites are full of those other two personalities and now wants to work alone so the other two don't start talking about paperwork for 4 hours again

little path
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don't like him

hollow ibex
earnest barn
faint beacon
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shockingly they somehow get along

little path
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I like cadia

covert fable
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Whats the red riding hood zealot skin called?

halcyon blaze
little path
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I don't like them making the imperial guard only about cadia

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tropic notch
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I mean a lot can happen but I’m usually running away ch_brittishsmirk

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I like both mauls smh

hollow ibex
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he's so over the top

late jungle
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maul is a funny one

faint beacon
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You'll hear his more serious side with Fatalist also seeing they both agree on viewpoints 90% of the time

earnest barn
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yeah, like i mentioned before, he's a sane person in a very insane reality, it's refreshing to see that kind of thing imo

spare jolt
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m fatalist my beloved

sudden cedar
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There are way more interesting Guard Regiments out there.

spare jolt
tropic notch
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Same bestie

sudden cedar
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Cadians are somehow, SOMEHOW, your standard soldier.

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When they are supposed to be the Elite.

faint beacon
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The bugged Fatalist quotes they refuse to fix

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pain and suffering

spare jolt
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:D

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they refuse to fix a lot of things anyways

earnest barn
faint beacon
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WILL TAM- WILL TAME THE-

earnest barn
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is the hound one also bugged or was that intentional

spare jolt
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bugged

earnest barn
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where he repeats the line twice

ember nest
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Wym

faint beacon
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Bugged

spare jolt
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how can it be intentional

faint beacon
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but its clearly him doing a retake

sudden cedar
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A lot of the dialog is either buggy or uses incorrect subtitles

narrow frost
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bugged

little path
faint beacon
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you can literally hear him

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inhale

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and say it again

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LMAO

hollow ibex
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insulting the maul

mandated edict: mauling

severe jolt
little path
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cadian 8th is the "elite" standard cadian

spare jolt
little path
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every other cadian or similar to cadian regiment are trying to live up to the standard of the 8th

earnest barn
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mandated eddict: a good kicking

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spare jolt
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mandated edict: bullet shield

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Maul is just that one guy who is too happy to be doing his job

Meanwhile authoritatian is too happy to be at his job

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I appreciate them both for that

earnest barn
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i like the fatalist because he sounds like a cop stereotype

faint beacon
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I'll be honest I think Authoritarian is just relatively green

ember nest
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Ironically the only thing that pisses me off with any of the personalities is when fatalist gets praised and is like "erm its not that deep"

faint beacon
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in the sense he's new

spare jolt
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"I WILL RUN YOU DOWN!"

earnest barn
spare jolt
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"I AM RELENTLESS"

ember nest
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Im gonna keep shilling why I like maul

spare jolt
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"I SEE YOU, I WILL BRING YOU DOWN"

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Maul:
Lets you know he is the lex
Wants you to be in the lex
Wants you to know he is doing good in the name of the lex
Wants you to also do good in the name of the lex

severe jolt
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only men can receive the gene-seed of their Primarch to become space marines

earnest barn
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Hes like the campy kind of dude you can impress by being equally as zealous as him

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Which...is why he likes the zealots

spare jolt
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she is not shouting

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Nah she just got that main character energy

spare jolt
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unacceptable

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"THE LEX IS THE LEX" from her is so full of mood that it wraps back around to being about as appropriate as everyone else's lines

earnest barn
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female seer is woefully underutilized ngl

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no joke, i have over 244 hours in this game and i have only seen female seer being used like, twice

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it's almost always the other two personalities

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savant especially

sudden cedar
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Weird.

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I only see seers and savants

severe jolt
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I have over 2000 hours in this game and I switch the names and personalities of my characters on a regular basis.
Yet I've never once had a female character.

sudden cedar
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sometimes male loners

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very rarely do i see female loners

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shame

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i like that voice

earnest barn
severe jolt
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it never crossed my mind to make a female character

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which, now that I think about it, is kind of weird

halcyon blaze
junior yacht
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which one of you dweebs said that cutthroat is bad

earnest barn
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4 or 5 people here including myself

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apologize

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now

earnest barn
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no

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cadia cadia cadia shut up

tame lodge
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Cutthroat slander on the big 25

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Anyways

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Fem Cutthroat

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She growls when Arby's talks to her

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πŸ’€

earnest barn
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male one does so too

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which i'll admit is one of the few cutthroat interactions that gets a chuckle out of me

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cadia stands

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normies

earnest barn
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cadia or how nobody can be trusted and how everything sucks, on repeat ad nauseum

little path
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cadia stands united

earnest barn
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even the professional has more personality and the dude is the equivalent of a cardboard cutout

little path
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the full line is "cadia stands united" but his mic cut off before he could say "united"

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which is fucking peak

earnest barn
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it's grating

spare jolt
junior yacht
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FOR CREED

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CLOSE KILL AND REPEAT

earnest barn
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i feel like Maul does the same thing as the cutthroat but actually better

covert fable
junior yacht
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IF YOU CAN BREATHE YOU CAN KILL

tame lodge
junior yacht
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peak

spare jolt
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peak fr

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spare jolt
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man spitting the fax

little path
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My favourite personality is the enforcer psyker

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man reads everyone like a book

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without even having mind reading powers

spare jolt
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i dont trust anybody so my character neither

junior yacht
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MORRIGAN I NEED YOU MORRIGAN

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PLEASE

tame lodge
earnest barn
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hey, occasionally i get competent people on auric

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occasionally

tame lodge
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Which is also a ripoff from Zealot and Fem Cutthroat interaction

ember nest
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Isnt seer basically just feugsonas

tame lodge
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Except she doesn't like Arby's

covert fable
junior yacht
spare jolt
junior yacht
covert fable
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Someone play arby with me,I want to see this growlll

sharp trail
ember nest
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The LC to arbi relation is "you are a cop and I am crime inclined" basically

earnest barn
covert fable
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I don't have army

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Arby

earnest barn
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oh

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Yes

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Its funny cause auth and cut get along

covert fable
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The interactions are pretty cool

sharp trail
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i think cutthroat and maul get along very well too?

ember nest
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I think so

spare jolt
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cutthroat and all ogryns are buddies too

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my man based

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peak guardsmen

tame lodge
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Bully just kinda hates arbites pre emptively but they gave him more depth because of yhat I'd say

tame lodge
junior yacht
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idk if liking an ogryn is based tho

covert fable
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Is there ones where no one gets a long

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That would be funny

earnest barn
spare jolt
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Bullt hates arbs

covert fable
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covert fable
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Dislike

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Hes just super serial

junior yacht
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daylight is overrated

spare jolt
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spare jolt
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or "ogryn is dead how sad. Nevermind."

junior yacht
spare jolt
earnest barn
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being nice to an ogryn is just the smart thing to do lol, if i had an 8ft tall giant wall of meat and muscle to protect me, i would try to get on their good side too

sharp trail
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shares disgusting fact

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"Ew"

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surprised

spare jolt
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Even savant psyker doesn't wanna deal with the worms man 😭

junior yacht
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And thats like the defacto 2nd nicest person

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Behind fem seer

spare jolt
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nah nicest one is theat one arbitrator persona

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authoritian?

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Auth is like 3rd nicest

spare jolt
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idk how to spell that

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He's just like

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But he got a little difficulty talking about it

sharp trail
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auth is joy incarnate

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"DO YOU LIKE TO SING" is my favourite

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Ironically male savant like tries to talk to him about it and then auth doesn't know what to do

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Fem auth likes hanging out with oggies

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Im kind of sad that the happy scale seems so inverted with the arbites

earnest barn
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Auth <- maul <- fatalist

sudden cedar
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@earnest barn That is why i like her.

ember nest
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Auth is CONSTANTLY

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Trying to share the music passion

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And then male savant goes "so I heard you like singing"

sudden cedar
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Every Arbitrator went through the same process.

ember nest
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And male auth instantly goes "uhm erm idk uhm"

sudden cedar
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They all went through the Schola Progenium.

ember nest
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Yeah but auth was a defacto orphan

sudden cedar
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Given that, the Authoritarian is the most sane of them all.

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Meanwhile

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Male seer

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Is so mean to him

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😭

sharp trail
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wtf

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"I bet you got daddy issues lmfao"

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"Uh no the emperor was there in spirit"

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"Lol okay whatever"

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Type shit

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I was laughing my ass off when I heard that bro

earnest barn
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that's wild considering male seer is usually pretty nice to everyone

ember nest
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Nah seer is like

sudden cedar
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Good thing the Arbitrator has the right and authority to just shoot them. And no one would care. Really.

covert fable
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That's crazy

ember nest
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(Male seer at least) is the barely veiled niceness that people who have superiority complexes sometimes get

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Fem seer is nice because she's an old crazy coot

sudden cedar
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Seer is the one that constantly talks about his/her beloved right?

ember nest
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I stan fem seer

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Ye

sudden cedar
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They are just crazy lunatics.

earnest barn
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he never struck me as having a superiority complex tbh, i always thought he was genuinely pretty nice when not tweaking

sudden cedar
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Female Seers are mostly Sienna impostors

ember nest
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Nah hes not "nice" he's "kind"

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Two different things

sudden cedar
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Psyker

earnest barn
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psyker

covert fable
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Oh

ember nest
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Fem seer is nice and kind

covert fable
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Sounds sad

sudden cedar
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Do not feel sympathy with the witch.

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Abhor the Witch, destroy the Witch.

ember nest
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Like both seers are very polite

earnest barn
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i'll leave the implications of that up to you

ember nest
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Meanwhile the loner psykers are like

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Detatched with good reason

earnest barn
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loner psykers are full superiority complex

ember nest
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They have that but they also don't hide it

earnest barn
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and disdain for everyone else(for good reason)

ember nest
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They have that whole "you gotta earn my trust" thing

covert fable
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This game has so much lore lol

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I never payed attention to it but itsnice

ember nest
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I have a love hate thin w/ loner

earnest barn
ember nest
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I liked them cause they were funny

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And then I hated them because how tf are they alive

covert fable
ember nest
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And then I liked them again because its aparent that they do their damn job and thats why they are alive

earnest barn
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that's the case for almost all of the rejects really

ember nest
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Sort of but loner is tge one where it stands out the most

earnest barn
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true, the dude blatantly outright calls the emperor "corpse god" or carrion feeder

ember nest
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Like with the vet personalities:
Professional knows how to be a solider
LC has seen. A. Lot. And very often been the last one left.
Cutthroat...is cadian. Thats it thats what he is. He'll tell you, too.

earnest barn
ember nest
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Meanwhile we have 2 lunatics and baby magic arbites

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For psyker

earnest barn
covert fable
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is there a video for all the dialogues

earnest barn
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afaik no, but there are plenty of the individual interactions

earnest barn
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he does have depth, it's just really hard to look past the surface level

ember nest
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Even his depth is shallow man

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He doesn't even have the excuse prof has of "normal guy"

earnest barn
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still, under all that i really can't help but feel bad for them

ember nest
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Bro is more one note than the average fandom tech preist

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Pensive emoji

earnest barn
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cadians have no life other than being raised as a soldier from day one and their pride was basically everything, so really how else are they supposed to cope with their planet being lost other than turning entirely to their life as a soldier

ember nest
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I feel like a semidepressed kreiger would have filled that slot better

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"I need more" but not in the excited khorn way, type shit

earnest barn
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naaah, a krieger becoming a reject is basically impossible

ember nest
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Get low health "this is what it's about!"

ember nest
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All it takes is insubordination

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Which isn't too uncommon with them

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If you hold them back from being able to serve with as much zeal as the average kreiger prefers they get hella dejected

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And if they think specifically you are the issue with that, it usually evolves into making sure you can't do that anymore

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Hence foreign commisars and kreigers do not mix well at all

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A kreiger getting sent to a "less active" front as punishment is iirc also not uncommon

earnest barn
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being sent to a less active front is a blessing for a regular guardsman but a horrifying thought for a krieger

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the fandom memes about them being nigh suicidal and exaggerates that a lot, but its frankly not that far off

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they do want to die, but they want to die in a way that furthers a goal

ember nest
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^

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I could imagine lines like "why can't I help the main seige instead" and shit

earnest barn
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shame not a whole lot of people look past the overdone shovel and trench memes or the surface level, because past that Krieg is such a fucking horrifying regiment lol

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even by imperial standards

ember nest
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I mean most kreig fans get that

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Issue is a lot of people see the word "kreig" and a gasmask and go "wtf germany"

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Like bro this is ww1 not 2

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And its not even specifically german

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They're running around in german helmets with british masks and french coats

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But because we didn't call them "kreauxg" that goes over people's heads

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I hope they get voiced one day and have an OBNOXIOUSLY thick french accent

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British would work but people would miss that since ao many brit accents are already everywhere

earnest barn
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they do get voiced in the pariah nexus animation, but it's just british accents like everyone else

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actually, while on the whole topic of kriegers

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actually pray that fatshark makes a better cosmetic set for them because the one we have currently is so ass

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like, brother, what the hell is this

ember nest
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The blue one is better but they need to lower the hemet over the goggles

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It makes them look so dopey with the helmet that high up

sudden cedar
earnest barn
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the bag is also comically huge and theres not even a hose connecting it to the mask

ember nest
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Thats basically the main diff between that helm and this helm

ember nest
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They NEED to lower the brim but they didn't

sudden cedar
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The technology just isn't there yet.

earnest barn
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meanwhile the steel legion set is basically perfect

ember nest
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The low brim is so damn important to the overall look man

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You could change tbe helmet entirely and as long as the brim was kept low people would go "oh that looks like kreig"

earnest barn
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it looks wrong without the hose too

ember nest
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I am fine w/ the hose missing just because fatshark seems allergic to them

earnest barn
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they did include a hose in one of the steel legion sets

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one which i even own actually

tame lodge
ember nest
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That glorious low brim πŸ˜”

covert fable
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Is it in the game tho 😭

earnest barn
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was

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it was being sold on the slop shop during the warhammer skulls event earlier this year

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hold on, i think i have a old pic of my vet with it

wheat palm
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Wish it was full goggles ngl

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I’ve got the other helmet thankfully

sharp trail
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old set had goggles down

covert fable
wheat palm
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Yeah but with the hose would of been cooler

sharp trail
covert fable
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Why is all the good cosmetics on when I take a breakkk

earnest barn
covert fable
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WHAT

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I'm going broke when that comes

sharp trail
covert fable
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Oh that's fine, screw arbi

earnest barn
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it aint fair

covert fable
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One in the middle

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I like the claudettes helmet

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Ogryn looks like he's about to mug u 3am in london

sharp trail
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it's a shattered visor with one visible eye i think

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buoyant pewter
sharp trail
buoyant pewter
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Who needs two eyes anyway to kill heretics

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XD

sharp trail
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zealot headgear is either having a cage over your face, an eyepatch or a gimp mask

buoyant pewter
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Accurate

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It's why I had to get the guard armor immediately when it was in shop

covert fable
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That's so fucking cool

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Is there a way to see what will next be in shop

sudden cedar
covert fable
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I feel like they are keeping cosmetics out of shop to keep us waiting and potentially on the game for longer e.e

sharp trail
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fomo

covert fable
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Ig

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How often does it rotate? Per week?

ember nest
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Fatshark and business intelligence are not

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Freinds

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Every 2 weeks

sharp trail
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i think once every two weeks every thursday

covert fable
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Also I swear all the skins are priced so u have to buy more currency than u need

ember nest
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They are lol

buoyant pewter
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That's on purpose

blazing jetty
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you'd think letting people buy the stuff they want would be a better business tactic than blueballing everyone

covert fable
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It's so cheesy

ember nest
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But they choose whatever the hell this model is

narrow frost
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FOMO is one of the best business ideas

ember nest
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Like even from a greed perspective this makes no sense

narrow frost
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but its terrible

ember nest
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Nah because a lot of people who would have bought stuff just decided not to

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I know so mamy mfs who get into the game

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See the shop

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Decide to wait for [specific set]

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And aren't around when it finally comes back

covert fable
ember nest
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Dont get me wrong I bet there are some people who snap things up instantly, but I know too many people who just fell off the game entirely after realizing the cosmetic bs after hearing about the rotations and the fact that they will have no way of knowing when certain sets come back

covert fable
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covert fable
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I still have my lame ahh base game cosmetic

ember nest
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In some other game like a gacha I bet it works super well

calm shard
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I have a desire to make all of my characters loadouts have a different cosmetic set with them too

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A desire that I cannot fulfill because none of the cosmetics that I want are in the goddamn shop

ember nest
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Another lesson from VT completely missed

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Pensive emoji

buoyant pewter
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Frankly I just want some cosmetics with sights on them for my weapons or something

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Or ingame way to get sights

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I'm being driven insane with only irons all the time

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so also not the best idea business wise for that

calm shard
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okay fine keep the rotating slop shop for the guard regiment sets like the Kriegers, Elysians, or the recent Inquisition Agents

ember nest
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This CURRENT SETUP

calm shard
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And have the other slop be an actual store page that I can just browse

ember nest
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ALREADY CONTRIBUTES TO DECISION PARALYSIS

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This is why picking the moebian asthetic was a superior choice

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ember nest
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The average player will:
See kreig
Buy kreig

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See steel legion
Buy steel legion

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The average darktide person generally knows what they want

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And even specifically waits for that thing

hybrid plover
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FOMO works in theory but its horribly implemented in this game

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Irregardless of the ethical implications of it.

ember nest
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Somehow warframe of all things made a rotating fomo store work better than this

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AT A HIGHER PRICE POINT

calm shard
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for minis they own or they personally think are cool in the setting

ember nest
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Yep

hybrid plover
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Like there are so many things people just want to buy because they know they exist but because the rotation is so limited, they just have to wait, even though those people are gonna buy those cosmetics regardless.

calm shard
#

I mean shit dude we can even have a full store page but have it be rotating discounts on cosmetics or something

#

that'd still be FOMO

hybrid plover
#

It's just pointless how it's done in Darktide.

earnest barn
hearty panther
#

I do love the people who complain the skins look stupid. Have you seen the minis? Do you know where you are?

earnest barn
#

I love them as a regiment

hybrid plover
#

They got kinda neutered.

ember nest
#

The issue is that in dt there's various "bits of trash stuck on you, but recolored" floating around too

#

Like bits of ceiling tile in the soup

hybrid plover
#

Also unrelated.

I now understand why people say keystoneless vet can work.

ember nest
#

There's barely anyone running the "little shitty bits" vets compared to oggies

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(It also tends to just work way better on oggy)

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Best way to slide it in tbh lmfao

hybrid plover
#

It's unrelated to the topic to be fair!

blazing jetty
#

wait what channel is this again staregryn

ember nest
covert fable
#

😭

ember nest
#

Works

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You can straight up not bring a keystone and be about as efficient as picking a keystone

covert fable
#

Just remove keystones

hybrid plover
#

Yeah I did away with weapon spec on a build solely for the sake of having both the Stam delay nodes

#

Funny I never tried that after like

narrow widget
hybrid plover
#

Nearly a thousand hours on Vet alone

covert fable
#

Hey hey

#

Vet is the best class

hybrid plover
#

And it feels so comfy.

covert fable
#

This is so real

hybrid plover
#

And people announcing their masturbatory habits for some reason?????

covert fable
#

LMFAO

hybrid plover
#

They had to make an entire announcement about that.

ember nest
covert fable
#

So I'm not the only one who thinks that

ember nest
earnest barn
covert fable
#

Veteran channel is the sane channel

hybrid plover
#

I'm dead serious.

ember nest
#

Right now

earnest barn
#

Gold

hybrid plover
#

This was a few weeks ago and I was just fucking speechless.

ember nest
#

Behold the taint of tzeentch

ember nest
hybrid plover
ember nest
#

Did rewdy have something to do with it

covert fable
#

Likely candidate

hybrid plover
#

Oh and this happened actually in one of the class chats

earnest barn
hybrid plover
#

Can't remember but someone got disagreed with and they started calling other person a pedophile

#

They got banned.

#

So that's nice.

ember nest
#

Oh nvm wouldn't be them

#

Also christ wth

covert fable
#

Wasn't that loosh person saying wild shit at some point

#

I think they got banned too

ember nest
#

Loosh is still here tho

covert fable
#

Oh

narrow widget
#

loosh is still here

ember nest
#

Probably some other L name

#

Theres a lot

hybrid plover
covert fable
#

ProbBly

ember nest
#

Im not a knower though

#

Not here long enough

covert fable
#

I was here from 2022 but I left server a bit ago

hybrid plover
#

Me neither. I just have an autistic fixation with this game enough to desire talking here more frequently than any server I'm in

covert fable
#

The server was more tame back then

#

Felt like it anyway

hybrid plover
#

Ah yes. Another general chat trope.

ember nest
#

I only speak in the servers where:

I rp
Or
I like the game

hybrid plover
#

Femboys.

covert fable
hybrid plover
#

For some reason general talks about femboys decently often.

covert fable
#

The entire general chat is -

ember nest
#

Its better "now" than when I first joined

covert fable
#

Turn veteran channel into the general

#

Gatekeep it

ember nest
#

DD's raw schizophrenia beat the horny (mostly)

narrow widget
#

is DD diana

hybrid plover
#

Naturally veteran channel is the most normal since only the most sophisticated players are vet mains

covert fable
#

Moeb is ur pfp a rat

hybrid plover
earnest barn
ember nest
ember nest
covert fable
#

Wa

ember nest
#

Touhou creature

covert fable
#

oh cool

#

It's twerking too

sharp trail
ember nest
earnest barn
blazing jetty
covert fable
ember nest
sharp trail
#

idk wtf happened to general chat, i just assumed it was always very whiny about the game

ember nest
#

The game is worthy of whine tbf

covert fable
#

Do people in general even play the game

earnest barn
covert fable
#

Ah

sharp trail
#

oh no it is but i was referring to the kind of whining like when power sword got a slap on the wrist back in 2023

ember nest
earnest barn
#

maybe i just underestimated how popular it is

ember nest
#

This game gets less players than that podcast does views

#

If anything i expected more overlap

late jungle
#

no way people actually listen to podcasts

earnest barn
#

I listen to it more for the comedy bits tbh, they tend to get shit wrong all of the time because accuracy is not their goal

ember nest
#

Like whar

#

Most of the stuff thats wrong turns out to be basically not diving into niche details

#

Its one of the few I tune into

covert fable
#

Yeah those podcasts are more brainrot than something chill to listen to

ember nest
#

I used to listen to jre back when he was a caveman learning about life instead of

#

A caveman with strong opinions

#

Cause he'd have interesting ppl on (even if some were lunatics)

ember nest
#

I'd rather listen to mike tyson talking about tiger farts and his beleif in aliens than any of his political guests

covert fable
#

Caveman podcast sounds nice

ember nest
#

Thats what jre used to be

#

Along with radomzed chimpanzee discussions and queastions about various drugs

#

Unfortunately yeah

#

Now oprah for men fall in 2 camps

#

The moists

#

And the asmonds

#

But both aren't real podcasts

#

They're more like...a weird form of modern news

#

Except one podcaster is clean with a pottymouth and the other one is dirty and

#

Still dirty

earnest barn
#

you all know that one mission in the hourglass where you have to stop a heretic transmission ?

ember nest
#

Omw to shut down an asmond stream

earnest barn
#

that was just the admonition transmitting asmongold videos into the vox net

covert fable
#

Moeb is a jumpscare now

south spindle
earnest barn
#

100% nurgle

hybrid plover
#

1000%

buoyant pewter
south spindle
buoyant pewter
#

Yep, it's why I hang here or in Psyker

ember nest
#

Rn gen is just some dude name moe baiting

late jungle
#

does the term ragebait mean nothing to you people anymore

#

it has to be believable to be bait

buoyant pewter
#

Is then just comedic relief or slop?

#

I don't know the proper terminology in this day and age, as my brain reverts to it just being ragebait.

late jungle
#

the internet really is rotting our brains ..

#

someone disagrees with me ? ragebait.

narrow widget
#

moe probably baiting tbf

buoyant pewter
#

Well its the term that's been used forever for actively trying to antagonize someone with (even obvious) remarks that are inflammatory

late jungle
#

forever?

#

ive literally never seen the term ragebait be used until like,

#

2024?

#

maybe its some 4chan terminology that kinda just blew up i wouldnt know

buoyant pewter
#

First time I encountered it was back in 2001

#

I think

#

I'm oldge

late jungle
#

2001

#

😨

#

i didnt even exist back then ....

buoyant pewter
#

Just wait till your starting number is 3 or 4 and it will get weirder when talking about internet culture that circles back

#

Meme's on ICanHazCheezeBurger (Or early 9gag) have slowly trickled back into cycle which is kinda funny to me

late jungle
#

growing old is scary .

#

ive already spent like, the first fifth of my life doing nothing

buoyant pewter
#

It will get better, just don't overthink yourself into a spiral. XD

hybrid plover
#

I'm not looking forward to the back problems πŸ₯²

buoyant pewter
#

My main suggestion is getting good shoes with good insoles if at all possible

late jungle
hybrid plover
#

I have moderate scoliosis so I'm off to a great start.

covert fable
#

That's rough

plush haven
#

@orchid hemlock i've done it got every bullet count penance

hybrid plover
# covert fable That's rough

Eh, it helps learning how to be your own chiropractor and having a partner that's willing to step on your back hard enough that it feels like it explodes at the equivalent force of a carpet bomb up your spine.

covert fable
buoyant pewter
sonic kayak
#

I was diagnosed with sciatica but it always pops up

#

Genuinely considered rolling a sledge hammer over my back

hybrid plover
#

I mean it does help to stretch regularly. The best thing you do for back problems like that is make sure that you try to keep a good posture with it.

#

You slump. And your spine adjusts to the slump and worsens.

covert fable
#

Yeah I think with scoliosis is it'll keep progressing?

hybrid plover
#

Yep. Not much I can do to fix it.

#

Just bear with it the best I can.

covert fable
#

Yours sounds awful

hybrid plover
#

Honestly.

covert fable
#

I never had to do this but it's noticeable for me

hybrid plover
#

It's not the worst.

covert fable
#

One side of my back is stronger

hybrid plover
#

Because again, I actively try to ward the issues away.

covert fable
#

That's definitely helping

hybrid plover
#

They're always gonna be there but that doesn't mean you have to accept them worsening.

covert fable
#

Yeah

#

There is treatment but that's scary stuff lol

#

I'm pretty sure if you get imbalances on your back it'll affect ur other muscles and create a bad imbalance

#

Domino effect kinda

hybrid plover
#

Ye. And of course it IS gonna probably worsen just by the nature of aging but, eh. Aging always comes with some kind of complication. Being a worrier about the inevitable does no good.

covert fable
#

Glad to see ur not just giving up tho

hybrid plover
#

Ya know. We were earlier talking about how general tends to turn into just, random shit about life and here we are in the vet chat talking about the complications of aging and mortality lmao

covert fable
#

Yeah but like

#

We are cooler

#

And mature kinda

ember nest
#

update on the older convo loosh is not here

covert fable
#

Yeah

hybrid plover
covert fable
#

Woa

buoyant pewter
south spindle
#

These days it does

covert fable
south spindle
#

It used to be a shitshow in here

#

πŸ˜„

#

Hell, Zealot chat still is most of the time

shy atlas
#

boomer c:

steep flower
#

@olive halo I'm back!

olive halo
#

Ive got time

shy atlas
covert fable
#

Payday 2 reference

#

Elitee

#

Sydney is my goat :>

olive halo
#

you can probably tell but I always played dallas

hybrid plover
covert fable
steep flower
tame lodge
#

Everybody asks how Dallas needs a medic bag

#

But no one chains is in a pickle

covert fable
#

onslaught goes so well with infantry autogun

#

but i feel bad for mag dumping into carapace

tame lodge
#

You should feel bad

covert fable
#

but the crushers get

#

killed so fast

#

auric 😭

shy atlas
covert fable
#

i might dable into havok but im prob not ready for that

#

ill eat all the ammo

tall torrent
covert fable
#

well im trying to level up my shovel right now and i dont trust this thing to help against a crusher when he is charging an attack over me 😭

tall torrent
late jungle
#

i see his face whenever i hear uncanny strike mentioned

tropic notch
tall torrent
#

power sword / duelling sword / knife
so if u want to do actual dmg to mixed horde u have 1 option

late jungle
#

the rot consumes

tame lodge
#

You don't trust your weapons

#

It's all about that melee mindset

#

You will kill everything with your melee and you'll like it

covert fable
azure narwhal
#

Mk3 shovel is amazing

ember nest
#

if you take a shovel take something that can kill single targets

#

like

#

a hellbore

severe lark
#

Shovel best melee on game cause the imperial guard said so

covert fable
shy atlas
#

😼

ember nest
ember nest
shy atlas
#

it's morbin' time

#

moebin' time

bright cove
#

Hello - Returning Zel and need help

I started Havoc and it appears Zels get pushed into beacon w/ DS and flamer at later levels.

I have like 1k hours on a fury knife Zel, is this type of build just not gonna work well pushing to 40?

tall torrent
hybrid plover
bright cove
hybrid plover
late jungle
#

they do that shit in general

hybrid plover
late jungle
#

general constantly cycles between politics and degeneracy

covert fable
hybrid plover
#

I've seen some unhinged shit in zealot chat too but you're also right too.

tame lodge
#

That being said

hybrid plover
tame lodge
#

Chorus is not that good

hybrid plover
#

The special is not to be overlooked. Weak spot hit on crusher will stagger them right out of an overhead.

tall torrent
#

chorus with +30% dmg for team and piety with +10% crit chance for everyone else is very strong support

#

esp for psyker

hybrid plover
#

And if you use skullcrusher, that also procs, meaning with uncanny, your push attacks can do some genuinely serious damage.

covert fable
#

ooooh

covert fable
#

okay so stun with the special to proc skullcrusher?

hybrid plover
#

Yes.

tame lodge
#

No one is picking Infectious Zeal

#

Despite Stalwart being pretty popular

hybrid plover
#

What

tame lodge
#

It's not that good

#

Could've taken chastise instead

#

Now that one is good

hybrid plover
#

Theyre both good for completely different reasons.

tall torrent
hybrid plover
#

It's funny because one of my best boss damage builds on zealot

#

Is a chorus build

covert fable
#

i was using recon lasgun with deadshot

#

and i didnt go below 700 ammo the entire game it was so fun

late jungle
#

recon lasgun is good but god is it boring

covert fable
#

i think i was just holding down my trigger for like 30 seconds 😭

hybrid plover
#

Yeah it does run its course after a few games.

#

But very effective.

covert fable
#

which shovel do you use gremlin?

hybrid plover
#

Mk1

ember nest
#

can show setup?

hybrid plover
#

My setup?

#

Sure.

covert fable
#

yes show us ur shovel setup

hybrid plover
#

Honestly I just need to save these damn builds.

covert fable
#

i think its a skill issue but im finding it hard to get dmg done with the mk1 to the armoured thingies 😭

#

oh i dont even have a melee build rn

#

epic

#

i just made this for my shovel

calm shard
ember nest
#

I'm gonna try some things on vet and see if they work out

#

I assume dump defense

#

are u using take a swing

hybrid plover
late jungle
ember nest
#

oog

covert fable
#

good idea

late jungle
#

just remove that node on the left

hybrid plover
#

Because honestly, keystones aren't the biggest deal on Vet as opposed to other classes tbb

late jungle
#

idek what stat that one gives but its not a talent so .

covert fable
#

its stam regen delay

#

its nice

#

and fat

late jungle
#

ough .

hybrid plover
#

That's one of vets best nodes.

#

Unironically.

#

It shouldn't even exist.

late jungle
#

i never find myself having problems with stamina funnily enough

hybrid plover
#

But it has a lot of value especially for push attacks.

late jungle
#

i dont run the delay nodes either

ember nest
late jungle
covert fable
ember nest
#

oh true

hybrid plover
#

Yep

late jungle
#

arbi gets 0.5 delay for nothing

calm shard
hybrid plover
#

You know what

calm shard
#

oh wait they pay in base stamina

#

right

hybrid plover
#

Hot take.

late jungle
#

yummer s

hybrid plover
#

Psyker and arby should have the slower stamina delays.

#

And vet should have the fastest.

late jungle
#

arby would make sense for sure

hybrid plover
#

They're fucking soldiers.

late jungle
#

idk why arby just. gets everything

barren cave
#

They should make any two subnodes on infiltrate baked into the ability

spring ocean
ember nest
#

does exe stance allow you to extend it with melee or is specifically only shooting

#

dumb question but it doens't say

calm shard
late jungle
#

franky people would buy arby regardless of if they were busted or not

#

money is a funny argument but i dont think it applies at all

spring ocean
#

yeah but a class being good ensures more sales so

#

πŸ˜„

calm shard
#

the initial design intent was that the minor nodes would allow you to "personalize" your base stats, but the reality of it ended up being that it just means you have to waste skill points on stats that you need to function

spring ocean
#

but its also apart of just stuff needing a baseline that hasn't been fully established just yet

calm shard
#

ogryn and arby's don't really have this problem

#

and they're the two msot recent skill trees we have

spring ocean
#

its getting there, but its not quite there yet

ember nest
#

hhrgh

calm shard
#

so any reworks to the other 3 are most certainly also going to do away with minor nodes as much as possible

covert fable
#

okay the mk1 shovel is pretty fun

covert fable
hybrid plover
#

Special has a long reach too so it's a pretty safe attack to use.

covert fable
#

yeah you can just bully a crusher

hybrid plover
#

Basically the dueling sword special, if it was balanced.

covert fable
#

its a bit slow compared to other melees

#

but its nice

tropic notch
covert fable
#

i wish there was a trench shotgun

#

i would love to run that with shovel

#

combat shotty will do

covert fable
ember nest
#

vet will probably improve

#

so will zealot

hybrid plover
late jungle
#

isnt decimator the one that requires u to keep swinging

covert fable
#

yes

hybrid plover
late jungle
#

that ones kinda poopy from personal experience

ember nest
#

I also assume there will be some sort of overhaul to vet in general simply because of how the oggy tree rework went (granted pbb is kinda aaaaaaaa)

late jungle
#

in theory itd give u more strength but ??

covert fable
#

but idk if decimator only works on one enemy

hybrid plover
#

So in theory, it can result in more damage but you have to properly chain attacks. You miss, and you lose the stacks completely.

#

It works as long as youre chaining attacks.

late jungle
#

just better off using skullcrusher

#

imo ..

hybrid plover
#

But you have to hit them.

covert fable
#

yeah skullcrusher probably more consistent

tall torrent
#

it's just awkward

hybrid plover
#

The only case use I can see for decimator being outright better is maybe for boss damage but

#

Honestly

tall torrent
#

and skullcrusher is op

hybrid plover
#

You really don't want to be taking on bosses like that with shovel anyway

late jungle
tall torrent
#

shovel is already a blessing centric weapon (u basically use it exclusively to have a weapon that has both uncanny and skullcrusher at same time)

late jungle
#

i dont rlly see many times where u can just keep smacking at a boss without being knocked back or being forced to dodge out of range ..

hybrid plover
#

Anything that can keep a boss staggered for a moment benefits decimator greatly.

#

Since there still is a time before the stacks run out.

late jungle
#

ou

tall torrent
#

but also benefits skullcrusher significantly more

hybrid plover
#

But if you miss an attack entirely, you lose the stacks.

tall torrent
#

lol

hybrid plover
#

Yep.

late jungle
#

it doesn't go away instantly ?

hybrid plover
#

So its like

late jungle
hybrid plover
#

Honestly just use skullcrusher.

#

It's just the better blessing in general

covert fable
#

skullcrusher it iss

tall torrent
#

shovel so bad that it exists just so u can run 2 op blessings at the same time

#

peak design

covert fable
#

is this 10%dmg node worth?

#

(for the shovel)

hybrid plover
#

But if you attack and fail to hit something, you will instantly lose them.

tall torrent
covert fable
late jungle
#

ough..

covert fable
#

i need to larp as trench infantry

tall torrent
#

99% of larp builds are ass in this game unfortunately

covert fable
#

sadly

hybrid plover
#

Just to mention, you can block cancel before the strike actually goes out to keep the stacks going but then you're wasting away that grace period

#

If I'll be completely honest

#

If you want strength

fossil lake
hybrid plover
#

Use AoN

covert fable
#

AoN?

fossil lake
#

Anyone ever seen this shit before?