veteran-class

[tame lodge]

It's pretty eh

[obtuse finch]

You mean onslaught?

or

Huh?

[tame lodge]

No

Exploit Weakness

You can avoid it

Getting 25 toughness

[obtuse finch]

AH

sorry

Yes. Good.

[tame lodge]

And still get 10% attack speed

[obtuse finch]

I don't even know if i should move things around to get an ourplestone

but like

im running plasma-explode-your-shit build

so like

do I need to tag enemies, or

[tame lodge]

You'll be fine
Vet can go keystoneless

And yes you should be tagging enemies, generally speaking

[obtuse finch]

Sorry,

tagging with buffs

or marksman's focus/ etc

Thoughts?

No ourple, but

[covert fable]

If you're taking krak

[calm shard]

kraks are spending a talent to remove your blitz but otherwise probably fine?

[covert fable]

U need the grenade regen 😭

[obtuse finch]

oh shit i forgot demo team and regen

[calm shard]

serrated is weird if you aren't using mercy killer knife, most people head over there for agile

[calm shard]

yeah checks out

uncanny strike is necessary to make knife function in its role tho

also makes the bleed do more damage\

[covert fable]

Try out uncanny instead of flesh tearer

[calm shard]

double also do you know how critical hit damage is calculated

[obtuse finch]

alright

and i do not

[calm shard]

It's not 10% extra damage to the critical hit overall it is 10% extra damage to the difference between a crit and a normal hit

For example if you hit for 100 normally, and 200 on a crit

You are getting 210 damage not 220

[obtuse finch]

oh wow, thats a big difference (referring to how crits work)

i appreciate the explanation

[calm shard]

yeah

weakspot damage works the same way

[covert fable]

Try out +2 stamina on the knife

[calm shard]

applies to talents too but they're usually big enough values to be good investments anyways

[obtuse finch]

Should I replace crit chance or dmg

[calm shard]

I run my knife with +stam/carapace

I can see crit chance being alright since knife has super high finesse

[covert fable]

Yeah

[calm shard]

Not what I would run tho

Knife loves to spam push attacks

[covert fable]

But that dodge perk keeps ur crit high

[covert fable]

Good start

[calm shard]

And knife has...how much bonus crit chance is it again?

17%?

[covert fable]

Idk

[calm shard]

15%

knife innately has +15% crit chance

I think it was tactical axe with 17%

[covert fable]

That's a good amount

[calm shard]

wait no they're 12

nevermind

[covert fable]

Desperado gives 10% crit chance right

[obtuse finch]

oki

dokey

FUCK

grumble

grumble

alright

here's everything

Thoughts?

I run damnation

[orchid hemlock]

You want me thoughts? 🤔

[hollow ibex]

MK not worth on vet knife

[mortal aspen]

that's a VT2 perk spread

xdd

[obtuse finch]

Yes. That's why I asked

[obtuse finch]

VT2?

[crimson wyvern]

does this still mean anything if you're always going for headshots anyway?

does it become a crit crit?

[hollow ibex]

Yes

[orchid hemlock]

Crit damage is probably the most useless stat in the entire game please never take it

I also wouldn't put crit chance on either of the weapons

Stamina on the weapon is also bad

[hollow ibex]

Kinda

[mortal aspen]

crit != headshot

[crimson wyvern]

im not a math nerd what is !=

[hollow ibex]

Crit gives a damage boost and headshot gives a damage boost

[mortal aspen]

"is not"

[crimson wyvern]

ah right

[mortal aspen]

there are crit headshots

[hollow ibex]

Yeah

[crimson wyvern]

Thanks for the info 🙂

[covert fable]

Try get a +2 or +3 stam curio

[obtuse finch]

Alright, thanks
-# finally someone giving actual criticism

[covert fable]

4% combat ability regen should be on all curious

[orchid hemlock]

Brother 💀

[hollow ibex]

Nah. Ordo dockets.

[obtuse finch]

There was an entire convo about how crit was great for my build like two minutes ago

[orchid hemlock]

I literally just got here, but I don't think there is any scenario where crit damage is good on the perks

Crit chance is ok on knife, but on plasma I don't see the reason if you already have gets hot

Having the extra raw damage helps with breakpoints

[covert fable]

Get rid of the skill that gives nades from the ammo things

[obtuse finch]

no

[covert fable]

And bring the

20% dmg against monstrosities

Actually if u play damnation idk how easy it is to regen grenades from elites

[orchid hemlock]

Stamina on the weapon is also pretty strange because it provides nothing to the weapon itself

And it is only applied when you have the weapon on hand

[hollow ibex]

Stamina on knife is ok

Vet knife

[orchid hemlock]

If you switch to another weapon or grenades it doesn't apply anymore

[covert fable]

I told them to swap health curio to a stamina one

2 toughness 1 stam curios

[orchid hemlock]

I'm not going to lie, stamina is better than WSD 😞

[hollow ibex]

Stamina curios are completely optional

[orchid hemlock]

Weak spot damage is almost as bad as crit damage

[obtuse finch]

god fucking damnit

[hollow ibex]

I don’t run them

[covert fable]

Try stamina and carapace on knife

X

[obtuse finch]

thanks

alright

im just going to stop asking for build advice here because no matter what i choose it's wrong

[covert fable]

I forgot what I have on my knife

[orchid hemlock]

For knife I usually got maniac/carapace

I don't use plasma but I assume it's something like flak and elites

[covert fable]

Maniac ues

Yes*

[orchid hemlock]

You could of just asked: "what are the best perks for knife"

Instead of doing trial and error

[calm shard]

yeah this is how it is for weapons in particular

weapons kind of need their optimal setups to do their jobs

a suboptimal weapon is going to miss important breakpoints and functionality that enables it to actually do well at what it's good at

a heavy sword without brutal momentum won't have good horde clear which it is known for

ditto for the combat axe and tactical axe

[orchid hemlock]

Are there any breakpoints for cara on the plasma? 🤔

I don't remember

[calm shard]

uuuh

[obtuse finch]

i might swap out cara for elites

[calm shard]

I think right click can one shot crushers with exe?

but then at that point the helbore can too

so

[covert fable]

Wtf what

Helbore can one-shot crushers? That's all I needed to hear

[calm shard]

requires exe stance

[mortal aspen]

vet knife push attack is too good

[calm shard]

and like a lot of damage

and also a crit

[covert fable]

https://tenor.com/view/witch-stir-cauldron-zelda-link-gif-13546617435939674990

It's time

[obtuse finch]

is this alright

[covert fable]

I never used plasma gun

[calm shard]

yeah

[orchid hemlock]

Stamina isn't the problem of vet, it's stamina Regen delay

It's the reason why Vet has Asthma 😞

[covert fable]

You will need serrated blade if you plan to use mercy killer on the knife

[orchid hemlock]

Mercy is useless on knife if it has no bleed

[covert fable]

Yeds

[orchid hemlock]

Also reciprocity is extremely good on knife

Probably one of the best talents in the entire tree, so I would recommend taking it

[obtuse finch]

Alright

This seems to be what people have been telling me

[orchid hemlock]

What

[hollow ibex]

All vets in darktide canonically suffered from mustard gas attacks. Have some empathy bro

[orchid hemlock]

Ok u know what I'm just going to do it myself

[obtuse finch]

I have been @'d with this image several times

(not in this conversation)

[covert fable]

https://tenor.com/view/boomb-cat-boomb-cat-boom-cat-explosion-explosion-gif-gif-17107588862516012936

[obtuse finch]

i moved one or two things around to better suit how i like to play

[orchid hemlock]

There

[obtuse finch]

Yeah that's

That's what I did

But I moved two to three nodes around

[orchid hemlock]

I honestly don't know what you can "move around" except maybe demo team

However now that I think about it, this build has no wave clear 🤔

[obtuse finch]

Well

I'm not doing things alone

so like

i can just let the other guys handle wave clear

This build was always meant to pop elites/toss grenades at armor

[orchid hemlock]

That's not what I mean, the range/melee weapons are supposed to compliment each other

Especially since you didn't take frags

[obtuse finch]

To me I've always though krak did much more damage

I've never used frag. im going to test it

[orchid hemlock]

Frag is an AOE that does bleed damage to everything it hits

[obtuse finch]

oh

[orchid hemlock]

Krak is a small explosion that just a lot of damage in a small area

[obtuse finch]

When I originally glazed over frag i thought it meant something completely different

[tropic notch]

I mean it’ll work but I wouldn’t run it lol

Shedders are better than kraks

[orchid hemlock]

Tbh though, the knife has decent wave clear so I don't think it's that big of an issue

[tropic notch]

Needs catch a breath

[obtuse finch]

well given im running mercy killer knife

running frag seems like a good idea?

[orchid hemlock]

The problem with mercy is that it is a taxing blessing

For example if you are willing to put on riposte instead you can get access to one of the best nodes on the tree

[tropic notch]

On my knife I run uncanny ripoest

[orchid hemlock]

The node right next to serrated

[tropic notch]

Mercy is cool but way too much investment

And if you’re running ws id get out for blood

[orchid hemlock]

Demo team is absolutely goated with frags

I wouldn't take the extra grenade over it

[mortal aspen]

I don't think the +1 nade node is needed

[tropic notch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f4191b1-b827-4295-bf1c-f7d37b862778/terrible-vet-dbknife-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[obtuse finch]

This seems a lot better actually (what I posted)

[tropic notch]

Try this

[mortal aspen]

the regen from kills will give more actual grenades

[obtuse finch]

So, good, no?

[tropic notch]

What weapons?

[obtuse finch]

Also I swapped Agile Engagement for Serrated Edge

[tropic notch]

Knife needs a stam node and mk is way too taxing to make work

You’d be better off using uncanny riposte

[obtuse finch]

Alright, so swap MK with Riposte, and give it a +2 stamina perk?

[tropic notch]

And out for blood is a better confirmed kill

[obtuse finch]

So I swap MK with Riposte, give Knife +2 Stamina Perk, and start my build from the top right?

[tropic notch]

@obtuse finch get a stamina regen delay node the perks on knife are flak unyielding

[wet elk]

is the power sword still good nowadays?

[tropic notch]

It’s his best weapon

[wet elk]

phew

rocking this for the longest time

anything worth changing for H40?

grenade build

[tropic notch]

The perks are Cara and elites

[wet elk]

thanks

[tropic notch]

@wet elk this is the same hav 40 build

[wet elk]

huh

crucis shotgun...?

always thought it was mid

[tropic notch]

I use Dbarrel ps

Not at all it’s amazing

[wet elk]

we bleedin?

[tropic notch]

With it yes

[wet elk]

splendid

[hollow ibex]

It’s very good but needs specific builds

[wet elk]

this good?

[tropic notch]

Perks are flak unarmored and yeah it’ll work

[cyan verge]

@tired egret

[wet elk]

unarmored...?

doesnt anything unarmored already explode?

[hollow ibex]

Gunner breakpoints

[wet elk]

hmmm

[hollow ibex]

Nah they’re usually tougher than flak enemies lol

Stupid heretics, wearing flak armor when they can just tank shots with their thick skulls

[wet elk]

i wish they touch up vet a little

when against crushers do i just shoot them or do i go melee

[cyan verge]

duelling sword

[hollow ibex]

Best to melee usually

Unless you have a melee that can’t handle them

[cyan verge]

also yeah gunners for some reason have like 1400 hp

[wet elk]

tryin to use power sword

[hollow ibex]

In which case I hope you took a gun or blitz that can kill them

[cyan verge]

power sword is fine too

[wet elk]

really dont like dueling sword for hordes

[hollow ibex]

Shreds crushers

[cyan verge]

well yeah cuz DS is not amazing against hordes

but it doesn't really need to be

you have shredders for that, RIGHT?

[wet elk]

yeah but they are finite

[cyan verge]

not when you're up the difficulties...

[wet elk]

i guess

but idk

[tropic notch]

Power sword is better than dueling sword

[wet elk]

having to rely on that doesnt sit well with me

[hollow ibex]

PS is the stronger weapon anyway

Harder to use though

[cyan verge]

I don't agree, it's generally less mobile and slower

[tropic notch]

Faster ttk vs crushers

[cyan verge]

makes it less safe to use

[tropic notch]

[wet elk]

the thing is that

[hollow ibex]

It’s harder to use but stronger

[wet elk]

its good vs everything

[tropic notch]

Ps is fine you just have to be patient

And use ws

And it’s not slow at all even without the buff form ws

Vet loves setup and precision

[cyan verge]

compared to the immediacy of a duelling sword it is much slower to swap, special, then begin your attacks, than to just swap duelling sword and immediately stab a guy in the face

oh and if some random horde is like trailing you and is keeping you from specialing it sucks

yes when it comes to havoc PS is the way to go but man

[tropic notch]

Me when I kill it with manstopper dbarrel

Or da grenade

[cyan verge]

it's just too fiddly to use for general use for me

idc how strong it is

[tropic notch]

He didn’t study the blade 🥀

I have a game where o got 4 pox bursters shoved into me by teammates while using the ps

But I did like 1.1 mil lol

Also I just use the tac axe on vet now

[calm shard]

same but manstopper combat shotgun

I like having more ammo

(and accuracy over range)

[orchid hemlock]

When I stop THE MAN 😈

[blazing jetty]

Haven't tried dueling sword on a mission yet

Is IV the best mark?

[orchid hemlock]

Good

Never use it 😈

[blazing jetty]

[gleaming fiber]

Dueling sword and laz gun with right side abilities

Is this good or nah

When I play psyker I use force sword the hooked one and I use electro staff

[covert fable]

ok helbore is so op holy

just oneshotted like 6 crushers

[barren cave]

Which helbore

[covert fable]

rn im using the

[barren cave]

The slow or the fast one

[covert fable]

Mk IV

[orchid hemlock]

Hell

Bore

Deez

[wet elk]

bruh why its like the 3rd time im in havoc, the arbitrator doesnt use the medkit

and we all die

[covert fable]

arby god complex

[wet elk]

its always the arbites

[tame lodge]

When the

[wet elk]

wtf

[orchid hemlock]

Anecdotal experience

It happens with everyone

[tame lodge]

Yeah it's because it's mid

[covert fable]

watch it get the fattest nerf when they are done milking it

[wet elk]

the class feels invincible lol

went to play a little on auric maelstorm

[tame lodge]

Every class is invicible if you don't get hit

[wet elk]

the effort i was putting for the amount of work i was doing

was so disproportional

compared to vet, zealot, not to mention pscyher

[covert fable]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kQtk9KMbTZlnw5apq?invite=cr-MSxRNXIsMzA4NjQyMjU5&v=17 big dopamine (not a care in the world of what is going on besides me)

[tame lodge]

Yeah that's helby

[covert fable]

i got blown up by a poxy

i was too tunnel visioned

https://tenor.com/view/boomb-cat-boomb-cat-boom-cat-explosion-explosion-gif-gif-17107588862516012936

[tall torrent]

Lemme show u the new knife sections

[tranquil ledge]

Marksman’s focus needs a buff

[narrow frost]

not a buff, just a small rework

[covert fable]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-let-him-cook-cook-cooking-breaking-bad-gif-27522167

[gleaming fiber]

Arby is an op class bro

I soloed a handful of flak armor enemies and a monstrosity by myself and ressed my teammate

[narrow frost]

real

[kind heath]

Yeah I’ve legitimately soloed entire pods of crushers/bulwarks

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/kat-cat-allahu-cat-allahu-akbar-flying-gif-21822754

[covert fable]

I never tried it myself but all the arbys never seem to die

[faint beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317585214566043729/1370818945904541866/worx.gif

[narrow frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1113195365093617676/1239702586634801234/hitler_we_have_a_problem.gif

[covert fable]

https://tenor.com/view/howlers-den-who-gets-the-pokey-pokey-cat-gif-8874659858752863111

Is vet actually thr worst class

[tame lodge]

Yes and no

[tame lodge]

The tree sucks dick but you hit as hard as a freight train

[buoyant pewter]

That is a definitely maybe kinda

[covert fable]

Yeah the tree is pame

Lame*

[covert fable]

So are we glass cannons

Compared to other classes*

[covert fable]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-surprised-surprised-cat-stare-cat-stare-gif-112276495113776365

[buoyant pewter]

I would say Psyker and Vet are in that Glass Cannon department yeah

We can output a lot of damage but can also get deleted in half a second sometimes.

[covert fable]

Ik that zealot has an ability that just says no to death

[hollow ibex]

Psyker gets a shit ton of defensive tools

[covert fable]

And like 20000 other ways to regen toughness

[hollow ibex]

Vet gets VOC

[covert fable]

That's like it

😭

[tame lodge]

No that's Psyker

[hollow ibex]

Nah psyker isn’t even a glass cannon lol

[tame lodge]

It is

To an extent

[hollow ibex]

Can you really call it a glass cannon when it can get ranged immunity on demand

Infinite blocking

A literal fucking shield

[tame lodge]

Yeah that's the cannon

[hollow ibex]

Yes

No glass

[covert fable]

Psyker is the glass

[tame lodge]

You still shouldn't get hit

[hollow ibex]

It’s a glass cannon for people that don’t know how to use defensive tools

[tame lodge]

Psyker too weak
Dies 2 hits

[buoyant pewter]

I consider it a glass cannon cause 1 mistake can be your last very easy.

[covert fable]

So it's a class cannon with good defensive stuff

[unreal nova]

All went all in on damage.

[tame lodge]

Yeah that sums it up

Although I am planning to get ALL tdr and toughness nodes in the tree

For a meme build

[hollow ibex]

Even then most people will have the sense to take EE and maybe KD

Which are the two most important defensive tools

[unreal nova]

Not enough points for some, lul.

I have at least KD in most cases.

[hollow ibex]

EE is a very easy pick up

KD is easy for gunker

Harder for staffker

[tame lodge]

I mean

Still on a good place even for staff

[unreal nova]

Just cut across.

You want that warp damage based on peril anyway.

[hollow ibex]

Yah

[unreal nova]

Still find it funni a gunner will max your peril faster than a DH.

[spice shard]

Bullets send you to the warp faster than daemons

[buoyant pewter]

Bullets are more powerful than demons, Doom guy moment?

[spice shard]

Veterans are just basically weaker doomguys

[covert fable]

Guys is there a mod for JUST weapon sights

[tame lodge]

Well
Yeah

[hollow ibex]

Idts

[tame lodge]

Shoot the demon

[hollow ibex]

It’s either full weapon customization or no

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-fury-movie-shoot-that-guy-gif-8829002926137263043

[calm shard]

no

[arctic rampart]

nooo what happened to rotten armor nm weird, it popped up just now

[covert fable]

damn

[ember nest]

Imagine rotten armor + the blight spreads

Nummy

[serene bough]

The tox gas from rotten armor doesn't feel very threatening

[atomic void]

it hinders visibility that's about it

[tame lodge]

Beware the overhead hidden in the clouds

[covert fable]

Funny overhead shadow

[barren cave]

Is maniac flak puncture and surgical good on bolt pistol

[hollow ibex]

Surgical isn’t great on Bistol

Lethal prox is usually the other blessing

Or run n gun or point blank iirc

[south spindle]

Execution if you're on Arb

Free stagger = free damage

Bonk Mauler, then shoot it, ez pop

[hollow ibex]

I still run lethal prox for dogsplosion and impact nades

[tall torrent]

Why not just
Bonk it twice instead

[south spindle]

Not always practical, more damage more gudder, myriad of reasons, If you can smash a Crusher in the head once, dodge out the way and put some space on the mob an still drop it really easily, then thats a plus

[unreal nova]

Don't work on dog, only impact.

[hollow ibex]

Sadge

[hybrid token]

crouching ogryn, hidden overhead

[unreal nova]

Yep.

[unreal nova]

True grit and reeeeeeeeeeee

[steep flower]

More like gloryhunter

[steep flower]

If you don’t run lethal prox i suggest gloryhunter; it is very good (if target dies to bleed from puncture it counts as weapon kill and you proc gloryhunter)

[red fox]

I think WS reloading/refill from reserve talents on the revolver are ass, attack me

[austere mica]

Why revolver specifically

[open ravine]

Only 1 round per proc

No matter the stacks

[austere mica]

Incorrect

But ok

You can load up to 3

I think

Either that or two

[steep flower]

33% out of 5 = 1,65 = 2

[austere mica]

Unfortunate

Luckily you can just spam single stacks

[steep flower]

2 is still nice imo

[shy atlas]

anyone know whtas the best recon lasgun overall

[past stratus]

it's good, the guaranteed crit makes it so revolver one shots most things. The WS reload makes sure you always have at least one or two bullets when you pull it out to use the crit

[red fox]

I just feel like it's never enough to justify the talents just for the extra 1 or two bullets, i'm never dealing with 1 or 2 elites/specials

[red fox]

And that's only if you're at 10 stacks of melee ye

[red fox]

I didn't say ws isn't good, i said the reloading and refill is kinda butt

[steep flower]

Well for 33% yes but if you want 2 bullets you can opt for 9 stacks cause thats gonna be 1,5 and since it rounds up it will be 2 according to math

[normal bay]

It's pretty nice if you're regularly using your ranged in combat

[steep flower]

Requires testing in psykanium

[past stratus]

the refill is good because it makes it sure that you have those bullets when you need them. But yeah it is not mandatory, you can prevent it by reloading efficiently

[steep flower]

Utilize tac reload

[plain osprey]

Todays Community challenge. Run an executioners stance vet with the hellbore lasgun you suck most at and the achlys combat axe on auric maelstrom

[sudden cedar]

[normal bay]

I was up for that until you said Achyls

[sudden cedar]

@plain osprey Does running a Zealot with Achlys Combat Axe and Ius Shredder Autopistol also count?

The Achlys isn't even that bad.

It just sucks that one attack does not deal any damage

[plain osprey]

For you, because i know that you like that gun and are in the top 5-10 percent of players, the challenge is No melee and only a Grey ranged weapon of your choosing

Unempowered

[sudden cedar]

Rough

[plain osprey]

The swing pattern is more awkward than me approaching women

[plain osprey]

Suitable to your skills

[sudden cedar]

Yeah. Sure.

Iam already fighting Carapace with a Devil's Claw.

[plain osprey]

See? That's what i am saying. Youre more than apt for it. Alright, varlet, enough chit chat get to it

[normal bay]

How does hotshot affect cleave, is it a % or a flat number? 🤔

[sudden cedar]

Maybe it just works? 🤔

[normal bay]

Things just working? In Darktide?!

[sudden cedar]

You say you haven't had your daily prayer to the machine spirit of your lasrifle yet?

[steep flower]

I made him run these

IT WAS ME

[sudden cedar]

[steep flower]

Credit the oppressor!

[normal bay]

The blessed oils can only do so much

Maybe that's why the servers have been so shit recently

[steep flower]

Lubricate your lasgun

[sudden cedar]

They haven't been oiled?

[steep flower]

[normal bay]

Need some oil, candles and a few kind words

[plain osprey]

Well to be fair, i asked what they worst vet weapons were. So i literally asked for it

[plain osprey]

With what 👀

[steep flower]

Oil

[red fox]

Is agile engagement ever worth, engaging

with

[heavy rover]

IT WAS ME BARRY

[normal bay]

Yes

Double barrel

Revolver

[red fox]

oh it is with revolver

curious

[normal bay]

Maybe Bolt Pistol?

[red fox]

name me a better duo
"walk into a big room"
"Every one immediately spreads out and dies to gunners"

[normal bay]

That bridge on silo cluster:

No one seems to know about the walkway on the right that's almost completely covered lol

[sudden cedar]

Cover is something alien for most people

[earnest geode]

Is the power sword any good? I wanted to do a melee focused veteran and power sword looks sick af

[late jungle]

best/2nd best vet melee

just make sure it has the power cycler blessing ..

[earnest geode]

alright thanks

does the Mk matter?

[late jungle]

i think people use mk6 but it doesnt matter that much

[covert fable]

yes

which helbore do u guys prefer?

[normal bay]

The eternal struggle between the Helbore III gamers and IV enjoyers

[stoic thorn]

Just when I get used to the routes people take people go the other way and I get molested by the horde

[dawn garnet]

@tall torrent for 400 its a steal

[sudden cedar]

It's stealing your Aquilas.

[dawn garnet]

i only buy aquilas when fatshark releases good updates and i only speed them when i find good cheap things

so far only 20 euro for the crafting update

and i just spent it

[atomic void]

wtf you should be buying every slop shop rotation

[heavy rover]

Mk6 is the recommended. You can block cancel the charge up animation and the push attack is good against single targets

[buoyant pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggo-black-dog-shocked-big-eyes-gif-17791618

Wait things working

I got hit with so many 20XX errors last night I gave up playing for the evening

[buoyant pewter]

Like Bear pointed out, DB, Revolver, Bistol; but I will also add that the Combat Shotguns are also great like the DB for using Agile Engagement

[marble mantle]

I keep coming back to veteran. I hate to say it, but I think my era of ogrynism is over. At least for now.

[covert fable]

Goood

Join the dark side

Masochists

[marble mantle]

I quite like veteran. Best cosmetics, best voice acting, best ranged weapons.

All opinions btw

@hybrid plover what do you run on sapper shovel my fellow shoveler

[buoyant pewter]

Welcome back to the gang!

[steep flower]

Can ask me too i advocate for shovel usage too

[azure narwhal]

waddya guys think, is it reasonable to dump toughness gen perks/passives, if one uses shout with tactical awareness + the ability cd bonuses from 3 curios?

many damage/brittleness passives i want to take but i do have to give up survivability in that regard

[marble mantle]

You know I’m always listening to you

Whatcha running on mark 1

[normal bay]

Giving up toughness regen perks is unwise on a class that has such limited options but you can get away with the just one

O4B/Confirmed kill

It's not like they cost anything, you have to path through them

Unless you want to take the less useful talent lol

[azure narwhal]

thought so, those were the ones i was contemplating on keeping the most. thanks

one moment i will show you everything actually

it does hurt a little that onslaught is so far

would be great for a few of my weapons

[normal bay]

Yeah, don't feel like you have to take both, you'll not see many high level builds with both

I do regularly have close order drill and O4B though

[azure narwhal]

i see

what do you think

[normal bay]

Oops, wrong node lol

[azure narwhal]

if i were to give up 3 talent points here, to get to onslaught what would that be?

[normal bay]

What weapon is this for that you want both onslaught and WS for?

Onslaught is unfortunately quite expensive, so you'll have to make some sacrifices

[azure narwhal]

ngl, maybe i do not get it yet but i'm not even a fan of WS, i just slap it on to have a keystone. otherwise regarding your question, i was thinking cases like recon lasgun vs crushers

[normal bay]

Recon lasgun benefits little for. WS, it will still buff you melee though

So I would consider dropping confirmed kill and WS

[azure narwhal]

eh yknow man it's like

if WS was more consistent with the crit

sure

[normal bay]

Last one is more difficult though

[azure narwhal]

i could maybe argue for it

but with how it is

eeeeh

i may just not be a WS enjoyer.

[normal bay]

WS only works for what, one bullet? So it suits some ranged weapons better than others

[azure narwhal]

yep

for example

with my boltgun

i have

1 guaranteed crit

but that's about it

[normal bay]

You could always just ignore onslaught

It's only really needed for crushers

I just run a melee that can deal with them

Smaul, DS, PS, Mk3 shovel

[buoyant pewter]

One shot yeah, so it mostly sees use with DB, CS, Plas

[buoyant pewter]

I prefer it over FT Keystone cause I've gotten very tired of constantly spamming ping to get value.

XD

[normal bay]

You spam ping to get value

I spam ping to see what the hell I'm shooting at

We are not the same

[azure narwhal]

yeys that is the plan

[buoyant pewter]

Mk1 Eyeballs work really well for that

(I'm kidding, but I know what you mean, when in major crowds it can be a huge boon)

[red fox]

seriously

easiest way to find a sniper to ping wildly in its general direction

[buoyant pewter]

My brain just goes "SHOOT WHERE RED LIGHT COME FROM"

[red fox]

sometime

red light

come from

far

very far

[normal bay]

Sometimes they're in some weird spot though

[red fox]

^

[normal bay]

Lmao, caught by the bot

[red fox]

I watch a man get sniped through the floor once

[buoyant pewter]

Will relent that is sometimes a case...like they shoot from a microfraction of a opening between two geometry pieces

But ping can still be used even without FT

XD

[normal bay]

I've seen the laser come through but I haven't seen someone actually shot

[buoyant pewter]

Just wait till you see a Trapper net go through the floor

[normal bay]

I did see someone get shot out of the windows in throneside once

[red fox]

I have a clip of it going through a physical wall and hitting me

[normal bay]

Which is apparently somewhere they can spawn

[buoyant pewter]

Swiss cheese geometry pieces

[red fox]

See i also thought "probalby won't actually shoot but just dodge just in case"

the poor lad didn't do that

[plain osprey]

Horror movie stuff

[clear lantern]

got netted through a wall more than once.

in VT2 I was hooked by a rat above me and it dragged me up through the level into the skybox and crucified me in the clouds.

[buoyant pewter]

Swiss CHEESE GEOMETRY

[clear lantern]

I guess the coding was "direction you hooked <player>, pull opposite"

using a complmentary angle

[buoyant pewter]

Basically that is what I assume

And since the AI can see through what we perceive as a wall but has a LoS, it can still grab

[clear lantern]

and in that state the player is in no-clip/no collision, which is why chaos spawns can grab you and if interrupted by a helpful player, you can be dropped outside the bounds of the level and see the underneath

[covert fable]

Yesterday I figured out u can hit enemies through floors and I got to save an ogy from a dog

[buoyant pewter]

Yep XD

[buoyant pewter]

"You now see the Underworld, behind the MATRIX"

[serene bough]

i wouldnt recommend dipping into both trees at the very top, choose one or the other imo

those points are better spent at the bottom where most of Vet's power is

[buoyant pewter]

If you really wanna have some extra toughness (and give some of your buddies some toughness) can always take FT's toughness regen on target kill effect

But its still throwing a point into something you don't necessarily need

[wet elk]

is stock on a plasma gun heresy?

[buoyant pewter]

The Binary Speaking lunatics would say so

Though as a fan of aiming my firearms at the enemy properly, its not heresy

[marble mantle]

Which personality is the one female one that says “put the karkin boot in”

Is the loose cannon?

[buoyant pewter]

I think that's the Loose Cannon

[wet elk]

the one that yells about cadia

i think

[buoyant pewter]

It's either Professional or Loose Cannon

[serene bough]

loose cannon

[marble mantle]

Ok. Thats my favorite voice in the whole game I think. Either that one or male cutthroat

[buoyant pewter]

Yee, its Bodyguard Ogryn and Loose Cannon fem Vet that I like most for their responses

[safe kestrel]

Question

[buoyant pewter]

Yes good sir

[safe kestrel]

This isn’t a callout to rag on people’s playing ability or anything. It’s an observation around critical decisions in havocs

How used to surviving on less than a wound in gray screen are vet players typically?

This is a decision over who takes medicae when both psyker and vet are in heavy corruption status

I think it should be vet because they need to see long range more than psyker does

[serene bough]

arguably vet bc gold toughness is more important than bubble

[spring ocean]

usually its vet

[normal bay]

Will probably come down to team comp. Would you rather lose your horde clearer or specialist sniper?

[serene bough]

but both classes are going to get sneezed on and die from stray melee hits without proper defensive play

[spring ocean]

but in rare cases it can be the psyker, very dependent on team comp

[buoyant pewter]

I'm usually giving my meds off to Psyker and Ogryn, one cause Psyker has low health pool generally and one bad mistake means our bubble goes away, and Ogryns are prime targets for throwers and grenadiers who take a lot of damage out of that often enough.

So I am usually playing sub-wound cause I have my shout usually as my 'protection' as much for the team.

[safe kestrel]

Personally I’d rather keep the specialist killer because the rest of the group should be able to hold out from large hordes even if longer

[serene bough]

you could make an argument for either class

[safe kestrel]

Most psyker players are probably accustomed to playing on gray screen for extended period by nature of the class

[spring ocean]

but imo boils down to who's more competent to hold their own

[serene bough]

pyrostaff is going to make mixed hordes a lot easier to deal with, but gold toughness will keep survivability up substantially

[safe kestrel]

But specialists and disablers like mutants can change the dynamic and ruin everything fast

[buoyant pewter]

My teams value Pyro more and bubble cause they despise gunners+snipers and mixed horde dynamics.

[spring ocean]

bubble just lets you play where you want mainly without getting fucked up too badly (from shooting units)

[safe kestrel]

The thing with this is how in game I ran into an issue of the vet freezing up on using medicae when I really would’ve preferred he did

[buoyant pewter]

And can make a bad wave of ranged units not feel as bad on our beefy guy (ogryn)

[spring ocean]

were you in comms or was this randoms?

[buoyant pewter]

Wait he was refusing on using the Medi?

[safe kestrel]

Yea. The team overall was less experienced with that particular rank of havoc. I told him to take the medicae and he was so shocked about it that he sort of paused

[spring ocean]

usually when that happens I often assure them that I won't die.

[buoyant pewter]

Okay that makes a bit more sense to me.

[safe kestrel]

I think I made the right call regarding that

[spring ocean]

I usually tend to let people who are less experienced take the medicae so that they can stay in the fight longer

[serene bough]

Id say VoC is more important in those kinds of scenarios imo

[spring ocean]

unless I absolutely need it I won't use it, or unless it's an instance where I need to take it for future rough fights

[safe kestrel]

I really really want our long range guy to stay up comfy even if it means I’m playing on a hairs edge. I can hold on either way but I’d hate to lose the sniper/gunner killer especially on a level like the refinery ones underground

[marble mantle]

I do the opposite lol
Someone’s gotta carry this team

[spring ocean]

for sure, just preference when I play in lower havocs is all

[safe kestrel]

Probably what I should’ve done but I hate making uncertain promises

[buoyant pewter]

If I'm on deaths door (like sub 20 HP range, so even chip can get me inbetween a shout or random fire) I will usually ask for the Med, or a stim if in our group. Otherwise I do as much as I can to avoid using it for others who will likely take way more than I.

[spring ocean]

fair

[buoyant pewter]

Fair enough XD

[serene bough]

im guilty of not grabbing medicae unless im sub 10hp sometimes

[buoyant pewter]

You really like running the wire, Hugz XD

"I can go a little longer cap'n!" looks like they fist fought a ogryn with a plastic spork

[serene bough]

well it depends but a full heal on ogryn is more than a full heal on vet, so i'll gamble hoping a med stim pops up then go down and heal the wound

if i only have 1 wound left I'll take the medicae

[safe kestrel]

It was more or less a 3 man team because someone was playing arby and much less experienced than the rest, so he unfortunately died quite a bit. I don’t think vet player immediately understood how much I needed him

[azure narwhal]

spent those + WS here, worth? 25 toughness, 10% rending and -0.25 secs stamina regen start time

[safe kestrel]

In a situation later the vet went down and shortly after because of that the ogryn went down. I managed a short clutch but the dynamic team composition is crucial

[serene bough]

I'd say grab ogryn damage and WS

but idk what weapons you're using

[azure narwhal]

boltgun n power sword

not the biggest fan of ws icl

[serene bough]

definitely grab ogryn damage then and test out FT

idk how much FT pushes breakpoints on bolter

but you should test to see if it makes a difference

[buoyant pewter]

It's also a teamwide damage boost to that target so it's worth either way, especially to deal with monstrosities

[safe kestrel]

If it’s your last down before death, vet players should be higher priority for medicae/stim imo. Ogryn and arbites have range options but most aren’t as good and many are newer players with bad target priority or not as good aim

[marble mantle]

I wish fanning revolver was better

Where is my outlaw fantasy

[serene bough]

i agree, im just saying unless I'm down a wound I'd rather go down and wait for a green stim as opposed to using a medicae station

because a medicae use on someone with far more HP is more useful

vet and psyk gotta kinda get used to being in a position of being 2-tapped without proper toughness defense

[buoyant pewter]

Yeah I get your PoV on it, especially target prio right now seems all over the place with players.

[serene bough]

yeah i always bring FT over WS for H40 just bc monstrosities are a big enemy threat

[buoyant pewter]

Yep, especially in those multi spawns and then clown car of crushers+maulers into the horde wave

When the bosses need to die immediately before getting swamped

[safe kestrel]

Yea and that’s perfectly logical. Psyking it is more or less the same. If I’m close to dying I’ll just play more conservatively for a short time or maybe still go all or nothing if they really need a boss taken down

[steep flower]

power is nothing with no survivability

[steep flower]

it is good wdym

[marble mantle]

It is?

[steep flower]

ofc

[steep flower]

come to vc mah man

[serene bough]

i dont think you need both toughness nodes at the top

one or the other is sufficient when paired w/ VoC and iron will

[safe kestrel]

It’s great on boss damage but I wish it handled mid level guys like gunners a little faster. The only real downside is lower ammo capacity

[steep flower]

you also don't think when you're dead

[serene bough]

whats your point

[steep flower]

accuracy too to a degree

[safe kestrel]

I just use zarona now to save more ammo

[buoyant pewter]

Frankly I would just take one of the top nodes for regeneration then take Target Down down the FT line, you then also give your team more toughness and stamina per kill.

[steep flower]

being able to have multiple sources of toughness generation on a build is widely known to be a good choice;
Vet has O4B, CK & CaB
Zel has Second Wind & abilities
Psyker has... many choices for warp & non-warp usage
Ogryn has for both multiple or single target hits & steady grip
Arby has staggers & stamina used toighness regen

[serene bough]

yeah but vet is heavily taxed so spending points on toughness generation at the expense of combat effectiveness usually isnt a good idea

VoC + iron will spam is the main point of survival for vet anyways

[steep flower]

i use them in almost every build and my performance ain't worse; its actualy good cause you can take more toughness pressure rather than backing away/taking cover

[sudden cedar]

When you have none of that, you'd be happy to have some other way to get toughness back.

[steep flower]

think differently my friend; not everything is obvious

[buoyant pewter]

There was a really interesting discussion awhile back to be a 'toughness printer' with Born Leader for the team

[serene bough]

i have considered it but its just a worse option

[sudden cedar]

Fair enough.

[serene bough]

there's a balance between survival and combat effectiveness and id rather output more damage if it means i can play well enough without needing several toughness nodes

2 points can be the difference between several nodes like ogryn damage, FT, trench fighter, weakspot dmg, etc. depending on the loadout

[buoyant pewter]

Yeee.

[orchid hemlock]

Caring about your teammates?

[buoyant pewter]

[orchid hemlock]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c4013c8-2411-40b7-b11b-d7dca0c52b62/healing-vet?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[buoyant pewter]

That's basically the same build I use for my Laspistol setup

Cause that's when I can't trust people

[serene bough]

I love the several quotation marks around Healing lol

[buoyant pewter]

They need to make sure you know its """"""Healing""""""""

[orchid hemlock]

This is honestly troll

Because you overcap toughness 90% of the time

So it's useless 90% of the time 💀

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e0a3f5e-1fd1-4eb4-85ac-996f01651ac7/brace-for-impact?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

This is my favorite troll build tho

[buoyant pewter]

No onslaught but braced autogun!? HOW DARE

[orchid hemlock]

Do we really need another onslaught debate here?

[buoyant pewter]

No

But its still funny

Wasn't there also a triple-ability taking build someone also shared in here a bit ago too?

[orchid hemlock]

A what?

[steep flower]

could be slightly better

[buoyant pewter]

Takes Marksmen, CQK and FtE

All three 'ability' boosters

[steep flower]

its honestly not a bad idea tho

depending on the strategy & weapons

[buoyant pewter]

Isn't it a bit overkill?

[steep flower]

nah

if you use high burst weapons all these will add up vs ogryn waves & bosses

like boltgun

[orchid hemlock]

Fatshark

Give vet flamer and my life is yours

[buoyant pewter]

Even better, give us a Meltagun

More unique weapons

Not shared ones

[steep flower]

I personally use FtE & Marksman on boltgun & it melts big targets

[mortal aspen]

is it worth it to go for Agile Engagement instead of elite damage and stamina delay?

for DB

[crimson pebble]

both abt as equally good imo

[covert fable]

I'm not sure if elite damage will hits any breakpoints

[heavy rover]

How else will we pass the time while we wait for new vet content?

[covert fable]

Veteran players

[hybrid plover]

Flak/maniac or carapace

Uncanny/skullcrusher or decimator.

Could be daring and replace decimator for all or nothing too.

[tall torrent]

I already have it lol

[tall torrent]

if u mean curio perk toughness regen, drop all

if u mean toughness gain talents, u want at least 1 at top

[orchid hemlock]

Stack toughness, nuff said

[heavy rover]

Vets running havoc 40 with an offmeta build

[calm shard]

I actually do this on an infiltrate build

with the +30% damage from infiltrate

aka the "turn everything to paste in 5 seconds" build

[trim badger]

Vets who go offmeta in Havoc 40 and don't even do what their niche build was done for:

[heavy rover]

I raise you vets still popping off at havoc 40 despite going off meta and going off their niche build

[hybrid plover]

If you see a krieg vet with a Shovel and Helbore in h40, they're probably cracked out of their mind

[trim badger]

I don't think Helbore is offmeta anymore tbh

[calm shard]

yeah it's not

[hybrid plover]

Shovel is though.

[heavy rover]

Shhh don't let the rest of the other class chats know

Let us have our fun with helbore

[hybrid plover]

Helbore is still more tricky to use than other meta options tbhi

[heavy rover]

Yeah, but it's super rewarding in the right hands

[hybrid plover]

It's probably one of the most balanced meta options. And I'm glad Fatshark made it that way.

Takes getting used to, more deliberate but if used right, probably one of the best ranged weapons in the game now.

[trim badger]

I think it's kinda silly to need to hold m1 while ads to charge the thing

[hybrid plover]

The one thing that probably isn't gonna let it be a top pick tbh

[trim badger]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/496

xd

[ember nest]

peak

[hybrid plover]

Yeah. That's why I use that mod. I feel bad about it but like

They could have done something like this with the update too.

Console players be damned. 😔

[crimson wyvern]

is there a hidden "you do extra damage" tied to hellbore that I should know about

feels when I crouch and aim it gets a little bump in damage

[tall torrent]

no

[crimson wyvern]

i know some weapons have those though

so just wanted to check

[covert fable]

WHAT

that is amazing

[hybrid plover]

You might be experiencing the reverse fall off.

[tall torrent]

none have diff dmg profile between crouching and standing afaik

[crimson wyvern]

I cant remember whcih but I know some weapons do have bumps in damage dependant on you crouching and aiming and not because of the veteran thing

[calm shard]

helbore has reverse damage falloff

it does more damage the further away your target is

all las weapons have this except for the uuuuh

laspistol I think?

[crimson wyvern]

gotcha

[grand perch]

Laspistol is indeed not reverse damage model

I forget about recon

[trim badger]

I wonder what perks should I even run for Helbore in Havoc

[tall torrent]

maniac unyielding

[trim badger]

It's like I know unyielding awesome cuz reapers but everything else dies anyways so wtf do I use

Ok I'll just keep maniacs then

Also today I learned you can knock the twins with a plasma headshot...

That'll be useful when clutching

[tall torrent]

1hs flamer

[orchid hemlock]

I just get better via vibes

[serene bough]

helbore for havoc is nice but i cant decide between IV and IIIa

[tall torrent]

flip a coin

every time u start a match

[plush haven]

how does penance make every shot count actually work

[tall torrent]

so u can play both

[plush haven]

i get no ammo part

[serene bough]

great idea

[plush haven]

but 90% accuracy

is that like dont miss target

?

[serene bough]

[tall torrent]

bring double barrel shotgun, shoot horde

as long as a single real pellet hits any alive enemy and deals damage, it counts the whole shot as "having hit smth"

[orchid hemlock]

Manstopper and calv

[plush haven]

Aight gonna give it whack

[orchid hemlock]

Use my build trust https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d67f64e-5960-41d8-bb1f-6e991d65ea76/main-character-syndrome-vet?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[plush haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zONW46d50A0

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-i-dont-trust-like-that-car-salesman-distrust-gif-15986473

[narrow frost]

real

https://tenor.com/view/kat-cat-allahu-cat-allahu-akbar-flying-gif-21822754

[trim badger]

Get the fuck out of my porch

[plush haven]

doesnt mele replanish

ruin whole

depletete ammo

?

[orchid hemlock]

What

[plush haven]

or is that only works if u have ammo to reload

[tall torrent]

don't take survivalist

[plush haven]

last two perks

[orchid hemlock]

Last 2 perks of what?

[plush haven]

weapon specialist

and always prepared

[orchid hemlock]

You mean always prepared?

Yes it gives you ammo

[plush haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95FdpcoxMow

[orchid hemlock]

Take it off for the penance ig, but if you just constantly double fire I think you can deplete the ammo anytime you want

[plush haven]

this is build i'm using

can i just switch plasma for shotgun

to get penance

[trim badger]

You can but it's gonna be harder

[plush haven]

okie

time to switch than

i'm keeping krak

since i'm doing penance for it

already

lol

[orchid hemlock]

Looks like absolute click bait ngl

Do I have to watch it?

[trim badger]

The point of running double barrel is to make sure that not even a disabled chimpanzee can miss the shots

[plush haven]

u dont

guy rp as

[orchid hemlock]

The reason you take DB is because it's pretty difficult to miss with it 💀

For the penance

[plush haven]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-giga-chad-chad-gif-23788137

[orchid hemlock]

Also ngl his Psyker looks like is carrying the absolute shit out of him in that video

[plush haven]

carrying is sharing

or sum like dat

lol

[orchid hemlock]

He's wasting a shit ton of ammo too

He's not marking any specialists

[plush haven]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-he-just-like-he-just-like-me-fr-meme-gif-573734217303447410

that i agree

i don't see him marking

[orchid hemlock]

Smh my head

[plush haven]

so no point of using marking perk

[covert fable]

I wanna try out the shovel but I feel like it's a BAD idea to run it with the helbor

[plush haven]

if there was krieg outfit

shovel is way to go

even tho range weapon sucks dick

[tall torrent]

Every word after “idea” can be scrapped and it still remains true

[orchid hemlock]

Vet's job in havoc usually is taking out specialists

He keeps mag dumping on crushers

[covert fable]

Yeah I tried out thr shovel in psykanium and oh my god its fucking pitiful

I think I had decimator and uncanny and even then it was poopy

[tall torrent]

op blessings but base weapon so bad lol

[covert fable]

Yeah

Kinda wish it was better, such a cool melee

[orchid hemlock]

This is probably better anyways

[covert fable]

Also wish the double barrel had a non sawed off version that behaves like a sniper

[plush haven]

rn coping build u sent

just gonna use crack instead of smoke

[orchid hemlock]

That's a DB build

I was talking about the plasma build from the video

Actually hang on I messed up on a couple talents, now it should be updated

[serene bough]

🤔

[orchid hemlock]

Is DB good on havocs? @tall torrent

[calm shard]

yeah

it is

[hollow ibex]

lol imagine if DB shot slugs

[covert fable]

Why doesn't it

[hollow ibex]

Tbf you can still snipe with DB

It’s just crit dependent

[covert fable]

Let us pick ammo types for dB;-;

[hollow ibex]

Which makes WS DB even more important

[covert fable]

Flechette buckshot and slugs

[plush haven]

can u use strenght blessing

on shotgun

[covert fable]

Ws?

[orchid hemlock]

I have scatter on it

So with that and WS

😈

[tall torrent]

niche but strong in that niche

I think it's one of the best designed weapons in the game

[mortal aspen]

Agri combat shotgun

[tall torrent]

good design, feels good to use, has its downsides and upsides, overall balanced and strong

[covert fable]

I totally forgot about the combat shottys

What is WS?

[mortal aspen]

weapon specialist

[covert fable]

Ohh

Double barrel is like the perfect gun for that perk lol

[hollow ibex]

Weapon specialist lets you guarantee crit

Which in turn makes DB very very happy

[covert fable]

How happy

[calm shard]

combat shotguns aren't bad with WS man stopper either

gives them more versatility

they ain't gonna clear crowds like DB does but they sure do punch through

[covert fable]

Combat shotgun and DB share a lot of blessings right?

[calm shard]

yeah

[mortal aspen]

you basically never have to reload and can guarantee bleed proc

[hollow ibex]

And infinite cleave

[mortal aspen]

sawed off shotgun killing snipers 500 football fields away is funny

[plush haven]

just finished heresy threat with didn't menage to get 90 accuracy

@orchid hemlock

[mortal aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-swim-in-milk-cat-kitty-milk-milk-cat-gif-23473453

[orchid hemlock]

How did you miss with the DB?

[shy atlas]

😼

[covert fable]

So nobody gonna help him

[plush haven]

turns out i didnt

someonebody on team had or i did

ammo thingy

now i got cocked again

with 1 bullet replanished

[orchid hemlock]

Did you empty the gun before getting into the plane?

[plush haven]

no it wasn't plane this time

it was that church twin resurection thingy

and i didn't have time to empty last round

either way i like this build

way more than plasma

using dueling sword instead of combat

[orchid hemlock]

Did you learn the forbidden combo? 😈

[covert fable]

Can all of the hellbores one-shot crushers or is it just one

[plush haven]

nope

i dont think i did maybe i did

i'm bit daft

[hollow ibex]

Only mk iv

[covert fable]

Ah

[orchid hemlock]

Always prepared

[covert fable]

I hate the slow charge of it and if always screws me over

[orchid hemlock]

If you kill 1 enemy with melee and then switch to the DB you get a shot for free without reloading

[hollow ibex]

Weight of fire helps a lot

[plush haven]

ohh

that

than i did

but i wasn't paying attention to that as much i wanted to deplet ammo

for fucking penanance

but turns out someone on team had replanish

or something similar

gonna try again 2morrow to do fucking annoying penance

[covert fable]

Yeah it's nice but it feels annoying when I almost fully charge it but don't 😭

[plush haven]

dunno why am i even bothering when i'm gonna use coat toughness penance one either way

lol

[shy atlas]

You will pay for your sins

Down with the emperor

[long dove]

How's everyone today?