#veteran-class
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Oh you were asking the armor type
I thought you were rage baiting me for a second š
because burn has really high ADMs outside of carapace
Cara and flak
burn ADM vs flak is 100%
onslaught at best gives u +10% dmg for burn lol
Impossible 
u literally can access my guide
The guide that you never will finish even with my help š
it's really that low??? It certain doesn't feel like that little of a damage boost for the burn, may just be that I usually have bleed too atop it with nades or knife
Hm
look at the recent progress
We finally getting it? 
look at how many melee weapons have movesets added
The progress path makes when not playing rogue trader š

Incredible
is the guide ready?
Iām kinda glad thereās not a lot of carapace armour on enemies wtf that stuff really blocks like everything
There will be.
that picture is cute but I have no idea what it conveys, is that a yes?
There will be a lot of Carapace.
lmao
somewhere someone had 15 maulers and 12 crushers spawn
Just abuse uncanny ofc
My shotgun kills literally everything really quick except for crushers and scab maulers which then takes sooo many shots lol
Obviously I donāt shoot them
Soonā¢
Eh maybe Iāll just stick with shotgun and keep using Krak grenades to take out the groups
Do they spawn in even more than groups of 3~ in havoc?
more like
groups of 12+
Yes
Oh ! Fun
Even Rotten Aurics right now are throwing 5+ at you at times right now
Iām not entirely sure on the blast radius of the kraks but itās enough to engulf 3 of em, donāt think itāll get 12 though
can someone join strike party 5 and explain to me this class
Too be fair though most of the scenarios people have mentioned are like, if youāre on your own, because ideally you have 3 more people to help with the waves
i have about 60 hours on vet alone and i still die at least twice per mission
giv me like 2 mins
Ah jeez, whatās the difficulty youāre on?
damnation
Dump Stat on ps is mob right?
cleave targets
and my laspistol build's struggling in damnation oh my god
Btw speaking of havoc did they ever change the cleave values? š¤
Mines an old ps, sadly itās got a 75% dmg but other than that most is taken off cleave, Iām assuming the sword is still viable? Havenāt had any complaints so far
i wanna be clear, mkx laspistol is better than mkii right
Just make sure youāre dumping cleave targets not cleave damage
Other way around unless youāre doing a deadshot meme build
Itās cleave targets š
Mk2 laspistol is better than mk10? What's the dumpstat on it
mob
This build is number 3 currently in the charts
man I dunno what the point of all this is, like "I want to shoot crushers to death"
when like
I got told that mobility was what you should have as a dump stat for all melee the other day, Iām guessing they were wrong lol
you could just stab a crusher twice in the face with DS4 right, and then he DIES
he's DEAD
like it's that easy
We are all professional misinformation spreaders š
Okay? I just avoid melee specials is all and shoot them, thatās what I personally like to do, you like stabbing them and thereās nothing wrong with that
waste of ammo and playing incorrectly
what are you gonna do when you get trapped in a tiny room with 5 crushers cuz they just decided to spawn and storm into this tiny room with you
āPlaying incorrectlyā okay so your one of those players
I donāt get into that situation cause I know how to position myself in areas to avoid getting trapped?
I can see the value of the onslaught if it is a carapace heavy malestrom
ideally they die before you have put enough brittleness on the enemy for it to matter
You sound so pretentious like you know the game perfectly and anyone who doesnāt follow the same is just wrong
I would like to say yes but no I just lurk here a lot and I know from experience that like most of the time you are better off just using your melee
if you do use your ranged weapon for everything you are going to be a burden for your teammates when you eat all the ammo
I just think that like, "I prefer to shoot crushers" or whatever instead of meleeing them sounds like it comes from a place of ignorance and not like, oh I just prefer not to do that, no it sounds to me more like you don't know how to deal with them, so you don't deal with them properly
vet's the leastp icked class these days isnt it
because like damn im feeling damnation hit me like a train
that or my laspistol build isnt up to snuff despite i couldve fucking sworn this was built for havoc 40
It's because vet in particular has a really high skill ceiling.
It's kinda near the same numbers as Psyker atm in player numbers from my anecdotal experience.
Yeah like psyker but every likes a funny space wizard.
yknow my zealot is still stuck on uprising
And you can word that so much better than saying someone is just incorrectly playing, Iāve had people offer me help before for instance when I wasnāt sure what to do with my skill tree when they updated it awhile back, thereās a difference between helping and just being rude even if you meant it to be helpful
or i might pop back onto my Psyker but gunker feels like vet but better
Funny enough. I've been playing Vet so much lately that I went to Arby last night and played like utter dogwater
Cause you gotta play way different on Vet XD
You really have to play vet so differently from the other classes.
Iāve had good results playing a support vet in damnation, havenāt lost a game so far today
To be fair thereās no real ammo misplaying until youāre in havoc from what Iāve seen, unless youāre grossly wasting ammo
usually yeah ammo is whatever nowadays, but
there are occasions where no one can find ammo and everyone needs ammo and it sucks
Many people see Arby as better Vet because bigboi dog damage, but IMO I enjoy Vet more than Arby 
i'll take whatever's ready for auric maelstrom cause wow
Like you have to try really hard to actually waste ammo in damnation as an example
or just play Ogryn
That just means that team is bad at ammo consumption tbh
I play a vet that generates ammo so thatās always help
The best ammo generation is ammo efficiency
I donāt get a lot of vets in my games :P
This
Iāve seen so many arbiters though
Most vets that play are in a support setup with Survivalist and Shout but its becoming more and more rare to see Veterans
cuz vets only really have one way to play imo
Lemme cook something up. This was a build I made last night and I out damaged two arbites in a 3veg
yeah some people do something weird but eh
Lifeās too short to look at highly rated GamesLantern builds
Thereās a few weapon styles that play differently at least
Every class leads to ogryn š£ļø
i dunno man, laspistol's been the most successful for me
And itās not like going executor or infiltrate throws the entire match
Sadly is the case yes, to be optimal you basically have minor variations of the exact same build.
Theyāre just not as good 
you can do a few things different but it's like generally, you just don't have the same options that like psyker has for instance
I have a Laspistol build I use that is a Crit based one, will go find it again
wish i knew who gave me the build i have now cause they were here and i was told laspistol was good for hav40
This one, you do have to rely a lot on Stamina management though
If playing without people on comms I suggest the knife over the Powersword cause it allows you the mobility to reposition easy
I think most vet weapons work at the highest difficulty, but the builds going to be similar to most other weapons you could use
Unless you use a āweirdā build
well whichever weapon is the "best" out of all those
And you can feel the difference in power using a weird build
i have a feeling laspistol is up there
Laspistol in the heavy variant is really good if you wanna be shooting all the time and hotswapping focus targets with that above build.
like look at this, outside of power this thing can shred
ive been using the mkx but now that im in damnation it feels like a peashooter
Might wanna get its percentages jumped up
Level it, and focus into crit
dude i am just bleeding diamantine though
Critical damage is where a lot of laspistol damage is hidden behind
i have none and i cant get some fast
Do the event, gives a big stack at one point
5k yes
Run lower difficulty to get them out of the way if you want
tbh I was making ok resources earlier just doing aurics in quickplay
though
it makes me so mad when people just run past stuff on the floor
yes we gotta move but come on it's right there
before you ask i checked with dukane and i forgot about a havoc reward that gave me 1.5k diamantine
Randoms are always hit or miss unfortunately
now this is up to max and the power sword's 490
Have you ever wanted to play a vet that constantly feels like you're on a celerity stim? Well. Here's the build for you!!!
I want put out there that agri shotgun with all of the ability damage nodes is absurdly strong.
āØcombat shotgunāØ
how much damage does the agri slug do
Not enough. I don't really use it.
The regular shells do me just fine on that build.
i assume you wanna use the slug to get rid of snipers in bullshit positions
despite that i swear to god these shells act like slugs regardless
Lol the ads spread is so good that you don't even need to do that.
Inspect the weapon
Check damage table
literally like
I'm assuming vraks iag is flak maniac and dumdum fire frenzy
Or dum dum deathspitter
holy shit im surprised they havent nerfed the combat shotguns to the earth's core with how much range it is
Missing out, itās free damage if you just preload it between fights
No Respite makes them take more damage on stagger on the off chance you don't one shot them and Flechette can just finish them off if you proc it since snipers don't have a lot of health.
Combat Shotgun + Knife 
The irons are just not good enough for me to justify using them.
Full Bore + No Respite is like right there
I dunno the irons look fine to me
Youll drop everything incredibly easily
I usually hipfire slugs because it has perfect hipfire accuracy 
Yeah my shotgun is a 1/2 shot on most enemies other than the ogryns and scab maulers
No Respite is already a big damage bonus. Full Bore is usually the better choice over fletchette except, it has less synergy with uncanny.
Iāll be honest you really shouldnāt be banking on Flechette on Combat Shotties when you can just drop the enemy with one well placed shot to the chest or skull
they literally just got buffed in the last patch CHILL
Added the fact that slug instantly opens up a bulwark
I did. And it worked.
https://fximgur.com/a/9Q0hFFK beast of nurgle begone
You don't even need full Bore to get that one shot in a lot of cases.
So why not try and make the bleed component more consistent.
It's not about range, with how the game is coded there is a minimum-pellet system so it can make shotguns feel like they reach much further with their damage than not.
Don't knock it til you try it
ok im getting buttfucked by damnation and im getting frustrated
either im playing it wrong or something's wrong with my talent tree
What's the tree?
Take a break and step back for a bit too, sometimes getting frustrated makes it easier to foul up your own play
Yeh.
Could try lfg on here also to find others to play with, definitely helps missions go more smoothly

This isn't bad actually. What's the weapons you're using?
mk 6 power sword and mk 2 laspistol
Wait people are still sleeping on Agri?
Can I make a suggestion?
it isnt stopping me from getting FUCKED on the special event
Marksmen swap out for Deadshot
Running a pretty similar build to mine just different gun and slightly different tree
On the mkX its fairly good
That's a choice.
im not using the mkx
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
But if I may. I'd say going for close quarters to also get that Stam delay node might be a good idea if you're running power sword
It rides and dies by the push attack chain.
And having all three ability boost nodes result in serious burst damage.
isn't this the exact same as the
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f751297-5e80-4a0a-8802-3bc1d044293e/the-only-vet-build
Wait.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
... There's no demo team
like your talent tree is good but like
Is fleeting fire good
swap exploit weakness for 25 toughness
why use the laspistol when you can just use the plasma gun and dueling sword
Okay yeah this build might be slowly chalked and yeah. That too.
Exploit Weakness is not good.
At all.
They are on damnation as well so they won't see as much value out of Demo right now too
I guess that's a fair point.
Lot less elites and specialists in general
Unless it's a shock troop
Yee
It's kinda like psyker. Except it pertains to a specific enemy type rather than just density as a whole
Yeah, as difficulty goes up on Psyker they get so much more value out of hordes and gunners especially
And if Blaze-psyker, tons of value out of high armor hordes
hey to be fair demo team is fine on damnation
that's where it like starts to get good
Honestly reg damnation, you won't get much mileage.
High intensity, now that's where things get a little more consistent.
Maelstrom Damnation :D
you don't need it to be cracked like it is in havoc or whatever tho for it to be worth taking
Shock Troops is where it really starts to put its work in.
no I would argue that's just where it breaks and starts being cracked
I think the point though is that if it's not that, there's actual competition it has compared to other nodes.
Shock Troops is really where it's a "why wouldn't you pick this"
oh wait no shock trooper at all?
then yeah I could see skipping demo team for shock trooper
but, eh
if it's only damnation then... I mean... it's not all that important I guess
either or honestly
I have a dumb recon build with shock trooper and extra crit chance and crit chance perk and it's funny because it means it has infinite ammo but it's almost pointless cuz you find ammo everywhere
now that is a build where you can safely hold down LMB for like the entire mission
ive just died to pox burster 3 times because of this trigger happy vet
3 times in 1 game
was this you when you finally fell over from poxbursters blowing you up
i dont even know how we are alive rn
I mean if a team shows they have no clue how to handle busters
I just fuck off when a burster appears
ITS JUST 1 GUY
Yeah exactly
even if it means selling them out to the horde walking at you
let him enjoy nurgle soup
He wants to shoot busters? Let him
I like shooting bursters but only when they are 50m away and I have a clear shot
no i couldnt run it was rlly close
so, never
bad scenario
if it happens once, just immediately do that next time
i try
because you know it'll likely happen again
for me I spam the "thanks!" then fuck off and sell them out constantly.
yes, I can be petty 
@tall torrent is rashad still bad on havoc compared to PS? š¤
not as good as power sword on vet ya
i'm itching to play vet again
i haven't used the helbore since the very first batch of buffs
corners and los blockers are your best friends if somebody is trigger happy on bursters
Staying behind and coasting is your best friend
Then youll be in range to pick them up
But at least you won't be far ahead butnin range to get shot up by your team
I swear matchmaking is just broken right now I keep getting put in the same like 4 maps over and over again
If I see another ritual with admonition in the next year it'll be too soon
Holy shit I didn't know 0 was possible lmao
in game dmg tables highly inaccurate at times
best to do hand testing for accurate dmg values
What's the best shovel mk?
5, ogryn
vet shovel has substantial room for improvement
is the nicest thing I can say about them
So, not gonna answer my question. Got it š
1 and 7 are ok
3 is sorely lacking horde clear
but all 3 are lacking in a lot of things
u have to spec a stagger blessing to reach core stagger breakpoints for mixed horde
all 3 are quite low dps in general, and especially low dps vs monster
They really shouldāve buffed shovel and helbore at the same time
And sold the krieg set
dismemberment effects better
EZ money
What's the build for mk6 ps, I got one with cleave targets dumped
I'm assuming brutal moment and pc
Which perks
what ranged
and what mode
Auric / havoc
Carapace
Unyielding / elite
Power cycler
Brutal momentum / sunder
Nice, ty
For curios I was wondering if I should update mine? Iāve had em forever so idk, right now theyāre toughness blessing with toughness, toughness regen, and ability regen perks
toughness regen not good
What should I swap it for? A dmg resist?
Is the 12% noticeable for revives?
stamina regen, :>
one, no
two or more, yes
revive is nice on ogryn i think
if vet had lower stam regen delay then ya
i liek to run it
take a stamina regen delay node 
no, placement bad
not worth trading dps for it
Hmm revive speed might be the one then,
How do the damage resists stack? 20% of the base each time?
I have ordo dockets on mine
no
im fuzzy on the math but
best to run 2 of those dmg resist
The game has so many percentage things Iām never sure how they work
each is x0.8 dmg taken
all multiplicative
the myth that they're diminishing returns is highly misleading
it's rly up to u
i just run 2 for gunner
Iāve only ever ran gunners, usually they are the most annoying
the way people think it's diminishing returns is just one misleading way of expressing it mathematically
x0.8 x0.8 x0.8
however this is dmg taken
each x0.8 dmg taken is essentially x1.25 your hitpoints
so it can also be expressed as x1.25 three times, and is the exact same thing
which, is not diminishing (it gets better the more u stack)
Hmm so Iāll take 2 gunners, for my last spot is the 5% health worthwhile? Or just take a third dmg resist
what class are u playing
Vet
you already took a revive speed on one of the curios?
i like the revive speed with the shout
really nice
I had a feeling
Nah, was mentioned that it was only good with multiple?
Already on em all
i swear to god once i complete a singular auric maelstrom so my veteran unlocks havoc im 100% just going to my psyker
this class is tiring
Iāve recently been playing vet just to slowly finish the penance for 100 games :P
what class is your main?
Was psyker when I first started, but I havenāt touched them in ages
Is bistol col or mob
have yet to try psyker but it looks rlly fun ngl
my first was zealot but that was back on xbox
collateral
Psyker I enjoy a great deal, especially into large mobs of enemies
Nice
vet is 3x effort for 1/3rd value
Feels like that, yeah
Ogryn and zealot I have a bunch more penances to finish so once Iām done another 20 games with vet Iāll be working on those probably
100 games on all? jeeeeez
Yeah I have a bunch of days clocked in game time, I guarantee most people here even have more than I do
what other class affords me infinite ammo helbore gaming tho
im pretty sure some people here have thousands of hours š
Yeah like I KNOW I donāt have as much as people here, I take like 6+ month breaks from the game lol
fair
Psyker
-adjacent
yeah fuck it
ive fully upgraded my peak build, im on damnation
screw it
SO
my ogryn and psyker's on heresy
and my zealot's on uprising
what to do
psyker it is
stealth mode with tactical axe and double barrel shotgun is so fun
and krak gernades
Lost my first game today cause we all got netted lol
@fervent citrus peak build on d4? idontthinkso
what
I have experience using melee DBshotgun and Taxe, but don't think I have use it with infiltrate and Kraks (I think I have a build with smokes tho). How does that run in your experience?
i use shotgun to kill and proc weapon specialist and suprise attack in stealth and then use axe
its decent but my build definetly needs tweaking
it sounds like a nightmare tbh
vet's worst ability, and worst blitz on the same build
the point tax alone is probably crazy
it is š
Weapon specialist penace is SOOOOO annoying.
I still have to do that one
I think I'm gonna do it last, just leave ws on and hope it fills up
Or Is there some easy way to do it
You need crit weakspot hits :(
if it was just kills while active fine
but crit weakspot kills
honestly just like
use the duelling sword
and stab people in the face
it'll go fast
no, no, STOP, stop just spamming LMB
use the stab
administer to face
you can 1-shot mutants
and almost everyone else
except like, maulers and crushers
idk that's how I did it
Just take revolver itās ez
oh that's also a good suggestion
Does bpistol work
Boltpistol doesnāt have an innate +21% crit chance
aw
plus how will you do your best revolver ocelot cosplay with a boltgun...
reflex check: failed
https://streamable.com/m7avpa
To be fair, not sprint sliding towards an open door way like this on havoc 40...
Yeah...
Lore accurate lasgun salvo
While on low hp and half toughness
So, I just started using Deadshot for the first time on a shotgunner build.
It's a bug that blocking with your melee weapon also drains stamina?
Pls tell me it is.
wait, are you asking for real?
bro is trying to block melee on a class with the worst stamina in the game
Yeah, I've never picked this talent before.
blocking drains stamina
period
if you block an attack with any class it drains stamina
Not blocking an attack. Just the act of blocking.
oh okay
then no, that shouldn't be happening
see if you can make the bug happen consistently
Block canceling is a thing tbf

Yeah I'll do some testing in the morning, it could just by a peculiarity of my loadout
You mean aiming down sight?
That does drain stamina
Blocking with your melee wonāt
Until youāre hit, as usual
Nah, it was definitely happening when blocking with my melee weapon.
stop blocking then
Do you have a clip?
Nah, but I can create one when I get home in the morning
OK no worries was just curious
no seriously I hope you aren't actually going around holding RMB for any more than like 0.5 of a second
just in general
I mean they wouldn't have to for this to be a problem since any moment that they block means they're not retaining stamina
Even blocking for like
A millisecond will screw you up if that bug is actually happening.
Which infantry lasgun is best
IIb
Ty
Man I hate low visibility missions
Low light missions are big gae
Is gets hot a good blessing
yes
but this roll not very good
wrong perks
shattering impact not good for plasma
and stats are off
So ive been trying to attempt havoc 40 on every class for weeks. I decide to return to vet, and I complete it first try

gets hot + rising heat
dats more of an auric thing
what would you like to see in a vet rework 
if it's not at least 4 pages long then smth is wrong
As long as you can just walk up to people and kill them 1 hit
It's going to be suppression focused isn't it
sure if it means that we get some dumb shit like Arbites concussives
ranged weakspot hits count enemy as suppressed :)
recon lasgun supremacy continues
Tbf though
You can make it so you can still 1 shot stuff
And have access to that type of talent still
Then it just becomes a talent that exists
Could be good if it suppressed normally unsuppresable enemies lol
Suppress a crusher 
poxers and groaners can be suppressed by Chorus
Why does this dude make me think of John Cleese?
10 more for safe measures
imagine if skirmisher stacked from stamina usage instead of sprinting for full second
free 25% dmg constantly up
Question to the gang; Devils Claw, what do y'all think is the best of the blessings and dump stat for it?
mob dump
shred + rampage for base game (non-havoc)
as for havoc it's kinda a challenge weapon cuz it's just abysmal cleaving at flak
best one is mk7 (also coolest moveset by far)
I would enjoy having a scatter-las

it's very based
tbh I don't see why this doesn't just apply to all guns at this point
there's a top tier las weapon in every role a ranged weapon can fill
let me have infinite ammo vraks iag I can see no flaws in this
or bolter

I just want to play doom without having to worry about ammo.
with the combat shotgun
what do you guys think of hit and run on the double barrel?
i was thinking to use it to mabey close distance to gunners with the immunity to ranged idk
It's fun but the fact we cant reload during sprint with it sucks :/
Maybe use the 70% faster reload blessing
Yep, it helps a lot to make it much easier to use
Just shoot, swap to melee, kill gunners then reload
It makes ur next reload faster whenever that reload happens
Sounds so fun
finished all vet-accessible melee weapons' sections
I think scab shotgunners should have these
recon lasgun if you only hipfire while being shot at by 2 gunners
is there any way to fit the stamina regeneration nodes into a build?
either one or the two
not that its impossible
Is Deadshot talent still being used?
of course, it's just going to be ass
yeah there are some deadshot advocates here
it's still very powerful on some builds
i don't like it tho
I wouldn't use it unless you're using an exe build which makes it a bit dubious
not hyper meta but still strong and fun
because exe builds are dubious
mainly just for exec builds for crits
can also use marksman for even more damage boosting exec stance
run a recon las, helbore
Not really got carry potential
uuuh
So results have been mixed
any somewhat more rapid fire ugn
It's great if you have at LEAST one other competent player on the team who can kill hordes
and just shoot things
Because you are assumedly a good player if you are using exe, and boy exe vet can single handedly kill every single special/elite on the map
Before your team even knows they exist
And you annihilate bosses
desperately wished the free ammo on crit talent applied to all guns
or other gun types had an equivalent
something like "ballistic weapons apply bleed and have increased cleave on crit"
then again bleed on a gun where ideally the guy dies asap isn't good
Infinite ammo revolver and 25 round bolter magdump
And bleed on gun hits is just fine
Puncture on bolt pistol makes breakpoints
And on bolter
Yeah but for things like the vigilant and braced etc
ideally you just shoot until they stop moving
it would probably make them better at boss melting
Vigilant cares about breakpoints
true, it would help vigilant
Vigilant with bleed would actually be really good now that I think
but like.. I dunno It should be something more universal
Because itās built around bursts to kill
And if you run the puncture number of 4 stacks a shot itās 4-12 stacks depending on the mark
increased cleave, bleed, rending, impact
idk, something to make it so like the bullet hit an artery or made it through a gap in the armor and really fucked up their organs
having a hard time understanding plasma gun. What blessings are pretty cookie cutter?
this is the one ..
I don't enjoy brrrrrr, I enjoy boom-boom-boom
honestly have a nasty addiction to the combat shotgun now.
Dumping reload speed 
would still buy just incase though*
is power blast any good on plasma gun? or should i just stick with gets hot
H40 Meta
Undertale build
Get's Hot and Rising Heat are pretty safe choices. If you are strapped for ammo, you get quite a bit of efficiency from staying at 80-100 Heat, at the expense of some rate of fire.
How do you build zarona revolver
Depends on variant.
ADS varaint, usually hand cannnon + surgical (or crucian roulette)
isnt there only on zarona
the ads one
and for perks im assuming uh
cara flak?
cara unyielding?
Trolleran
From paths guide
maniac and elite ig
Any suggestions on how to do make every shot count?
Weapon specialist and double barrel
Shotgun
Do I have to hit all pallets or just one?
Just one
So just one pellet from the shot and it counts ? Tried to do it with a bolter and it was pain
Thanks very much
i am not a fan of krak nades (just not my playstyle), but i have to do armourbane for the drip, any tips?
so far it's just crushers and maulers praying they don't get tapped by teammates first
try to run ahead so i can get to the untouched backline of enemies for secure kills
It's not just carapace
Flak also counts
You can throw it at clusters of bruisers lol
Lethal prox on Bolt pistol also increases the radius for this
smart, will give it a shot, although most flak gets shredded in a matter of miliseconds 
might have to pray i get bots
i do still need to run krak for that penance ive practically never switched off shredders
fair nough, thanks
armor looks too damn good to forget about
also, gud?
the other blessings i didn't take too big of a liking to, i've always like shred n wrath
Probably swab unyielding for maniac for my taste. But still looks good 
Very nice 
Everything
Starting with the stats
Then perks
Flak Maniacs
Flak Carapace
Then blessings
Uncanny + Riposte/Precognition
Thanks friend, it's been a while since I entered the game and I'm out of date.
Is this okay or should I look for another sword with better stats?
Look for another when you can
Is this sword okay? I mean the duelling sword in general
@narrow frost I added some navigation headers to your zealot compendia, you're welcome to copy it to your official version if you like it:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bbmCeGcFCgF809XozTtxCbRL2lh19RCfo2OaVVMcdjA/edit?usp=sharing
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Oh Dueling Sword itself?
Most broken shit in the game
High mobility
High Damage
Good stagger
While not the best horde clear, it's pretty safe
4.5 cleave on lights is pretty high
Ish
What should I look for most in this sword when looking for a new one? More damage or something like that?
I don't remember where I changed the perks.
?
Good
Is 60 mobility okay?
It'll work. I made two to try. The difference is minute.
More mobility may or may not help avoid overheads, but it already depends on how much room you had to dodge in the first place.
Might help with kiting the running event crushers though.
Thanks FS, those tanky karks are faster than normal.
It is. Just take note it may be nerfed in the future.
š
np
agile's not bad but I'd recommend checking out precog and uncanny. The perks you'll likely want to replace
Which ones do you recommend I put?
Look at the second pic. They did that already.
oh I missed that, you're all good with what you have

hopefully yesterday š
Agile is good, but it's more a defensive choice.
I think 60% on cleave damage is better, I'm not sure. Yours is still good
I like it cos it is a lifesaver on 300 ping.
very tiring seeing literally everyone on this game running ds
It barely makes a difference in high play. You won't have the room to dodge the distance.
It's okay, yours is still good
2% more dodge distance vs 5 secondary damage.

Literally changes nothing.
And sprint speed.
Oh okay
But the amount is so little...

It barely makes any serious difference unless you are horrifically OBSESSED about it.
Mobility dump is also better if you plan on using mk2.
I see
Is there a difference between the MKs?
Mk4 is brain dead kills single targets.
Mk2 is more hybird. Has better horde clear in trade.
Mk5 is funni dodges.
What about mk6 :> (jk)
Mk5 dump pen is extra funni.
Mk4 has only poke heavies, mk2 has a slashing heavy. Mk5 is the most defensive with ridiculous dodges
That's knoife. You have everything but worse except for mobility, that's WAY better.
Combat knife?
Yeah. If you mean powersword, don't ask me.
Dfhbtyhvstjj, I was just messing when I said mk6 š I meant it for the dueling sword ;p
I will still suggest mobility dump for when you get sick of mk4 and wanna try mk2.
Though you need to learn to heavy into special for armoured.
Harder than just heavy spam.
I think I'll use the MK2, for heavy enemies I have a bolter.
I suppose it's hard if you dont have extra mouse buttons
Controller actually.
For MK4 it's cleave
For MK2 it's mobility
For MK5 it's either mobility or defenses but I think defenses is the better dump stat
Mk5 can also be pen, if you just want a SAFETY stick. XD
Use with WS for extra funni.
Ah yes my safety knoife
I don't want to be an ice skater xdd
But is funni.
Pals what hellbore dump stat? Ammo?
Stability from memory.
Thnx
You aren't rapid firing that thing anyway.
That's a classic
Oh... is really rare, yeah.
I just needed like 2 hundreds but irl interfered
ended on a run where the director just literally threw every possible thing at us in a narrow corridor
Why director why
3 patrols of the rotten crushers and then reapers and bombers
š
and we were already a man down
it was right before the last objective too
sigh
Untouchable Operative is as much about skill as it is about picking suitable missions.
Doing this with Event Missions is asking for failure.
I guess you had it coming.
i really did
This sounds like a bad idea but is it bad to rely on kraks for crushers and maulers š
I'm using the grenades regeneration skills yes and +1 gernade
I'm using tactical axe and double barrel, lots of fun but not too strong against crushers
well yes cus it means ur not using shredders š
I'm running a silly cleave double barrel build š
It's surprisingly good for hordes
Yes
Yes it is.

Gambler build
even if you win, youre still stuck with the worst blitz in the game 
hehe
Wait kraks can't be that bad š
kraks are great when leveling and no one has the power to two shot the rare crusher spawn
A big "f you" to those crushers
Kraks are in fact that bad
Just turn the crack into a nuke
the dopamine hit of a krak actually killing its target is pretty good
kraks good
Yes
When I see crushers
Kraks good because Bulwarks exist 
For this shit you just gotta abuse meta for an easy time
Well being an Ogryn sure as hell makes it worse 
Even if true, max height on humans is advantageous
This is basically it yea
Easier time hitting heads
I suppose
I feel this hard as fuck when playing my vet
Cause I made them min height
You really
really do feel it
Max height > min height
Will check this out when I get on my pc
u can change height for free ,,
Oh what
the 50k thing lets u change ur name and.. i dont know what else
but the height stuffs free
50k for background, name and campaign replay
Is there any point to replay the campaign
Ik that twins mission gives a lot of materials but idk
i always go max height 
(also better for whacking heads)
Being small is cute tho
Max height because I'm tall and I bang my head on everything 
would be funny if you could increase your height that much
I mean IRL, my only safe place is online 
I just want to be like Bardin, okay? 
Where do we come from? Over the Mountains! Where are we going? Over the Mountains!
my psyker is min height just because I thought it would be funny to be a little guy channeling warp hell on enemies
and it is
When is dwarf class coming
Never
Same as Ratlings.
This but with Force Greatsword
Quite a few want Ratlings for some reason.
What do you mean by ratings
Like player ranks?
It is better cause no women like short kings

Etc....
OH RATLINGS
I THOUGJT YOU MEANT RAT-ING
Khdhwjsnsksms
they should let us control arby dog
Why let Players control something that is, few and far between, simply superior?
You would only downgrade the dog.
Make it a class š
Atleast when you tell it to do smth it does it; many ppl have too much of a fragile ego to listen to good advice & shotcalling in-game 
I just don't bother saying anything
You what?
I once got eaten by a dog to death while this guy was like 2 feet away from me firing at a horde
From full hp to death
Okay and?
Until one snaps⦠unless you are a depressed emo (nothing againts emo; its a practical joke)
How fking dreadful; i would go ballistic
Bad idea.
Yup; emo it is; it is okay pat pat 
Imagine we could ping dogs on top us
Crazy thinking
What š
Jk btw donāt get it personally
Well, reliably anyway
ofc not dwdw
The Tech simply isn't there yet.
I had some cursed ideas to that statement but i will keep them to myself 
.
Giggles aside tho; why let it happen?
After like 3 seconds of him ignoring me I was like let's see how long this goes on for
Ok that one i understand!
It was funny
lol
You don't like cats?
I don't like cats.

Cute
He's having the time of his life

Which automatic guns are good other than the recon lasgun?
Almost all the other fellow comrades I played with are using that
vraks infantry autogun is the literal highest dps gun in the game
actual death beam that kills anything you point it at
BUT it has high recoil, and harsh damage falloff
All of them
I'm the original Recon enjoyer, even before the buff š




