#veteran-class

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tall torrent
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what

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carapace?

orchid hemlock
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Oh you were asking the armor type

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I thought you were rage baiting me for a second 😈

tall torrent
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because burn has really high ADMs outside of carapace

orchid hemlock
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Cara and flak

tall torrent
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onslaught at best gives u +10% dmg for burn lol

orchid hemlock
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Impossible Sitgryn

tall torrent
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u literally can access my guide

orchid hemlock
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The guide that you never will finish even with my help 😭

buoyant pewter
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it's really that low??? It certain doesn't feel like that little of a damage boost for the burn, may just be that I usually have bleed too atop it with nades or knife

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Hm

tall torrent
orchid hemlock
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We finally getting it? pogryn

tall torrent
hollow ibex
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The progress path makes when not playing rogue trader 😭

plush kernel
orchid hemlock
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Incredible

past stratus
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is the guide ready?

silent bison
sudden cedar
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There will be.

past stratus
sudden cedar
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There will be a lot of Carapace.

past stratus
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lmao

buoyant pewter
trim badger
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Just abuse uncanny ofc

silent bison
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Obviously I don’t shoot them

silent bison
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Eh maybe I’ll just stick with shotgun and keep using Krak grenades to take out the groups

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Do they spawn in even more than groups of 3~ in havoc?

tall torrent
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groups of 12+

buoyant pewter
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Yes

silent bison
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Oh ! Fun

buoyant pewter
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Even Rotten Aurics right now are throwing 5+ at you at times right now

silent bison
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I’m not entirely sure on the blast radius of the kraks but it’s enough to engulf 3 of em, don’t think it’ll get 12 though

wild hearth
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can someone join strike party 5 and explain to me this class

silent bison
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Too be fair though most of the scenarios people have mentioned are like, if you’re on your own, because ideally you have 3 more people to help with the waves

wild hearth
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i have about 60 hours on vet alone and i still die at least twice per mission

tall torrent
silent bison
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Ah jeez, what’s the difficulty you’re on?

wild hearth
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damnation

barren cave
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Dump Stat on ps is mob right?

tall torrent
barren cave
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Oh

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Nice got a perfect ps then

fervent citrus
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and my laspistol build's struggling in damnation oh my god

orchid hemlock
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Btw speaking of havoc did they ever change the cleave values? šŸ¤”

silent bison
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Mines an old ps, sadly it’s got a 75% dmg but other than that most is taken off cleave, I’m assuming the sword is still viable? Haven’t had any complaints so far

fervent citrus
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i wanna be clear, mkx laspistol is better than mkii right

hollow ibex
hollow ibex
silent bison
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It’s cleave targets šŸ‘

barren cave
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Mk2 laspistol is better than mk10? What's the dumpstat on it

fervent citrus
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mob

orchid hemlock
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This build is number 3 currently in the charts

cyan verge
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man I dunno what the point of all this is, like "I want to shoot crushers to death"

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when like

silent bison
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I got told that mobility was what you should have as a dump stat for all melee the other day, I’m guessing they were wrong lol

cyan verge
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you could just stab a crusher twice in the face with DS4 right, and then he DIES

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he's DEAD

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like it's that easy

orchid hemlock
silent bison
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Okay? I just avoid melee specials is all and shoot them, that’s what I personally like to do, you like stabbing them and there’s nothing wrong with that

cyan verge
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waste of ammo and playing incorrectly

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what are you gonna do when you get trapped in a tiny room with 5 crushers cuz they just decided to spawn and storm into this tiny room with you

silent bison
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ā€œPlaying incorrectlyā€ okay so your one of those players

cyan verge
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just run away and die?

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no you just kill them

silent bison
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I don’t get into that situation cause I know how to position myself in areas to avoid getting trapped?

orchid hemlock
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I can see the value of the onslaught if it is a carapace heavy malestrom

cyan verge
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ideally they die before you have put enough brittleness on the enemy for it to matter

silent bison
cyan verge
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I would like to say yes but no I just lurk here a lot and I know from experience that like most of the time you are better off just using your melee

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if you do use your ranged weapon for everything you are going to be a burden for your teammates when you eat all the ammo

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I just think that like, "I prefer to shoot crushers" or whatever instead of meleeing them sounds like it comes from a place of ignorance and not like, oh I just prefer not to do that, no it sounds to me more like you don't know how to deal with them, so you don't deal with them properly

fervent citrus
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vet's the leastp icked class these days isnt it

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because like damn im feeling damnation hit me like a train

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that or my laspistol build isnt up to snuff despite i couldve fucking sworn this was built for havoc 40

hybrid plover
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It's because vet in particular has a really high skill ceiling.

buoyant pewter
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It's kinda near the same numbers as Psyker atm in player numbers from my anecdotal experience.

hybrid plover
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Yeah like psyker but every likes a funny space wizard.

fervent citrus
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yknow my zealot is still stuck on uprising

silent bison
fervent citrus
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or i might pop back onto my Psyker but gunker feels like vet but better

hybrid plover
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Funny enough. I've been playing Vet so much lately that I went to Arby last night and played like utter dogwater

buoyant pewter
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Cause you gotta play way different on Vet XD

hybrid plover
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You really have to play vet so differently from the other classes.

silent bison
fair jay
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To be fair there’s no real ammo misplaying until you’re in havoc from what I’ve seen, unless you’re grossly wasting ammo

cyan verge
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usually yeah ammo is whatever nowadays, but

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there are occasions where no one can find ammo and everyone needs ammo and it sucks

sonic kayak
fervent citrus
fair jay
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Like you have to try really hard to actually waste ammo in damnation as an example

or just play Ogryn

hybrid plover
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That just means that team is bad at ammo consumption tbh

silent bison
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I play a vet that generates ammo so that’s always help

hybrid plover
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That's like

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95% of vets tbf

fair jay
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The best ammo generation is ammo efficiency

silent bison
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I don’t get a lot of vets in my games :P

buoyant pewter
silent bison
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I’ve seen so many arbiters though

buoyant pewter
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Most vets that play are in a support setup with Survivalist and Shout but its becoming more and more rare to see Veterans

cyan verge
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cuz vets only really have one way to play imo

hybrid plover
cyan verge
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yeah some people do something weird but eh

hollow ibex
fair jay
tame lodge
fervent citrus
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i dunno man, laspistol's been the most successful for me

fair jay
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And it’s not like going executor or infiltrate throws the entire match

buoyant pewter
fair jay
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They’re just not as good LeaKap2

cyan verge
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you can do a few things different but it's like generally, you just don't have the same options that like psyker has for instance

buoyant pewter
fervent citrus
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wish i knew who gave me the build i have now cause they were here and i was told laspistol was good for hav40

buoyant pewter
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This one, you do have to rely a lot on Stamina management though

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If playing without people on comms I suggest the knife over the Powersword cause it allows you the mobility to reposition easy

fair jay
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Unless you use a ā€˜weird’ build

fervent citrus
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well whichever weapon is the "best" out of all those

fair jay
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And you can feel the difference in power using a weird build

fervent citrus
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i have a feeling laspistol is up there

buoyant pewter
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Laspistol in the heavy variant is really good if you wanna be shooting all the time and hotswapping focus targets with that above build.

fervent citrus
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like look at this, outside of power this thing can shred

fervent citrus
silent bison
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Might wanna get its percentages jumped up

buoyant pewter
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Level it, and focus into crit

fervent citrus
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dude i am just bleeding diamantine though

buoyant pewter
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Critical damage is where a lot of laspistol damage is hidden behind

fervent citrus
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i have none and i cant get some fast

silent bison
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Do the event, gives a big stack at one point

buoyant pewter
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5k yes

silent bison
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Run lower difficulty to get them out of the way if you want

cyan verge
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tbh I was making ok resources earlier just doing aurics in quickplay

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though

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it makes me so mad when people just run past stuff on the floor

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yes we gotta move but come on it's right there

fervent citrus
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before you ask i checked with dukane and i forgot about a havoc reward that gave me 1.5k diamantine

silent bison
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Randoms are always hit or miss unfortunately

fervent citrus
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now this is up to max and the power sword's 490

hybrid plover
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Have you ever wanted to play a vet that constantly feels like you're on a celerity stim? Well. Here's the build for you!!!

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I want put out there that agri shotgun with all of the ability damage nodes is absurdly strong.

silent bison
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✨combat shotgun✨

cyan verge
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how much damage does the agri slug do

hybrid plover
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Not enough. I don't really use it.

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The regular shells do me just fine on that build.

fervent citrus
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i assume you wanna use the slug to get rid of snipers in bullshit positions

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despite that i swear to god these shells act like slugs regardless

hybrid plover
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Lol the ads spread is so good that you don't even need to do that.

tame lodge
fervent citrus
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literally like

barren cave
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I'm assuming vraks iag is flak maniac and dumdum fire frenzy

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Or dum dum deathspitter

fervent citrus
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holy shit im surprised they havent nerfed the combat shotguns to the earth's core with how much range it is

hollow ibex
hybrid plover
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No Respite makes them take more damage on stagger on the off chance you don't one shot them and Flechette can just finish them off if you proc it since snipers don't have a lot of health.

buoyant pewter
hybrid plover
faint beacon
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Full Bore + No Respite is like right there

cyan verge
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I dunno the irons look fine to me

faint beacon
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Youll drop everything incredibly easily

hollow ibex
silent bison
hybrid plover
faint beacon
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I’ll be honest you really shouldn’t be banking on Flechette on Combat Shotties when you can just drop the enemy with one well placed shot to the chest or skull

calm shard
faint beacon
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Added the fact that slug instantly opens up a bulwark

calm shard
hybrid plover
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You don't even need full Bore to get that one shot in a lot of cases.

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So why not try and make the bleed component more consistent.

faint beacon
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Shredders

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I don’t see the point of using Flechette

buoyant pewter
hybrid plover
fervent citrus
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ok im getting buttfucked by damnation and im getting frustrated

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either im playing it wrong or something's wrong with my talent tree

hybrid plover
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What's the tree?

buoyant pewter
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Take a break and step back for a bit too, sometimes getting frustrated makes it easier to foul up your own play

hybrid plover
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Yeh.

silent bison
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Could try lfg on here also to find others to play with, definitely helps missions go more smoothly

buoyant pewter
fervent citrus
hybrid plover
fervent citrus
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mk 6 power sword and mk 2 laspistol

orchid hemlock
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Wait people are still sleeping on Agri?

buoyant pewter
fervent citrus
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it isnt stopping me from getting FUCKED on the special event

buoyant pewter
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Marksmen swap out for Deadshot

silent bison
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Running a pretty similar build to mine just different gun and slightly different tree

hybrid plover
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...Deadshot

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On a laspistol

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That's uh.

buoyant pewter
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On the mkX its fairly good

hybrid plover
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That's a choice.

fervent citrus
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im not using the mkx

orchid hemlock
buoyant pewter
hybrid plover
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But if I may. I'd say going for close quarters to also get that Stam delay node might be a good idea if you're running power sword

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It rides and dies by the push attack chain.

buoyant pewter
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Agree

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That juicy 2shot

orchid hemlock
hybrid plover
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And having all three ability boost nodes result in serious burst damage.

hybrid plover
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Wait.

orchid hemlock
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

hybrid plover
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... There's no demo team

cedar spear
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like your talent tree is good but like

barren cave
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Is fleeting fire good

tall torrent
cedar spear
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why use the laspistol when you can just use the plasma gun and dueling sword

hybrid plover
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Okay yeah this build might be slowly chalked and yeah. That too.

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Exploit Weakness is not good.

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At all.

buoyant pewter
buoyant pewter
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Lot less elites and specialists in general

hybrid plover
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Unless it's a shock troop

buoyant pewter
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Yee

hybrid plover
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Honestly.

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Vet is easier to play in modes with more specialists.

buoyant pewter
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Yep!

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We feed our shout so much more

hybrid plover
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It's kinda like psyker. Except it pertains to a specific enemy type rather than just density as a whole

buoyant pewter
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Yeah, as difficulty goes up on Psyker they get so much more value out of hordes and gunners especially

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And if Blaze-psyker, tons of value out of high armor hordes

cyan verge
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hey to be fair demo team is fine on damnation

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that's where it like starts to get good

hybrid plover
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Honestly reg damnation, you won't get much mileage.

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High intensity, now that's where things get a little more consistent.

buoyant pewter
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Maelstrom Damnation :D

cyan verge
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you don't need it to be cracked like it is in havoc or whatever tho for it to be worth taking

hybrid plover
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Shock Troops is where it really starts to put its work in.

cyan verge
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no I would argue that's just where it breaks and starts being cracked

hybrid plover
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I think the point though is that if it's not that, there's actual competition it has compared to other nodes.

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Shock Troops is really where it's a "why wouldn't you pick this"

cyan verge
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oh wait no shock trooper at all?

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then yeah I could see skipping demo team for shock trooper

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but, eh

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if it's only damnation then... I mean... it's not all that important I guess

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either or honestly

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I have a dumb recon build with shock trooper and extra crit chance and crit chance perk and it's funny because it means it has infinite ammo but it's almost pointless cuz you find ammo everywhere

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now that is a build where you can safely hold down LMB for like the entire mission

covert fable
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ive just died to pox burster 3 times because of this trigger happy vet

cyan verge
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lol

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that is awful

covert fable
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3 times in 1 game

spring ocean
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was this you when you finally fell over from poxbursters blowing you up

covert fable
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i dont even know how we are alive rn

hollow ibex
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I just fuck off when a burster appears

covert fable
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ITS JUST 1 GUY

spring ocean
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its ok

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just run away from poxburster and let him kill it

hollow ibex
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Yeah exactly

spring ocean
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even if it means selling them out to the horde walking at you

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let him enjoy nurgle soup

hollow ibex
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He wants to shoot busters? Let him

cyan verge
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I like shooting bursters but only when they are 50m away and I have a clear shot

covert fable
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no i couldnt run it was rlly close

cyan verge
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so, never

covert fable
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bad scenario

spring ocean
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if it happens once, just immediately do that next time

covert fable
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i try

spring ocean
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because you know it'll likely happen again

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for me I spam the "thanks!" then fuck off and sell them out constantly.

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yes, I can be petty Kapp

orchid hemlock
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@tall torrent is rashad still bad on havoc compared to PS? šŸ¤”

tall torrent
orchid hemlock
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dam the fucking breakpoints

plush kernel
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i'm itching to play vet again

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i haven't used the helbore since the very first batch of buffs

safe kiln
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corners and los blockers are your best friends if somebody is trigger happy on bursters

signal garden
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Staying behind and coasting is your best friend

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Then youll be in range to pick them up

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But at least you won't be far ahead butnin range to get shot up by your team

cyan verge
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I swear matchmaking is just broken right now I keep getting put in the same like 4 maps over and over again

signal garden
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If I see another ritual with admonition in the next year it'll be too soon

cyan verge
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I just want to play consignment yard again

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or sycorax

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or commsplex

fossil lake
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Holy shit I didn't know 0 was possible lmao

spring ocean
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it can happen

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:>

tall torrent
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best to do hand testing for accurate dmg values

fossil lake
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What's the best shovel mk?

tall torrent
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5, ogryn

fossil lake
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Thanks, Vet chat

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lol

tall torrent
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vet shovel has substantial room for improvement

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is the nicest thing I can say about them

fossil lake
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So, not gonna answer my question. Got it šŸ™ƒ

tall torrent
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3 is sorely lacking horde clear

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but all 3 are lacking in a lot of things

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u have to spec a stagger blessing to reach core stagger breakpoints for mixed horde

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all 3 are quite low dps in general, and especially low dps vs monster

fossil lake
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Counterpoint

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Bonk noises

cyan verge
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basically,

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🚮

hollow ibex
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They really should’ve buffed shovel and helbore at the same time

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And sold the krieg set

tall torrent
hollow ibex
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EZ money

fossil lake
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it has both

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If I cared about optimal gameplay I wouldn't be playing Vet Kappa

barren cave
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What's the build for mk6 ps, I got one with cleave targets dumped

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I'm assuming brutal moment and pc

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Which perks

tall torrent
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and what mode

barren cave
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Uh

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Dunno what ranged yet tbh

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Also by mode do you mean difficulty

tall torrent
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Auric / havoc

barren cave
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Auric damn

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Auric mael

tall torrent
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Carapace
Unyielding / elite
Power cycler
Brutal momentum / sunder

barren cave
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Nice, ty

silent bison
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For curios I was wondering if I should update mine? I’ve had em forever so idk, right now they’re toughness blessing with toughness, toughness regen, and ability regen perks

silent bison
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What should I swap it for? A dmg resist?

covert fable
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revive speed maby

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what class?

silent bison
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Is the 12% noticeable for revives?

safe kiln
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stamina regen, :>

tall torrent
covert fable
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revive is nice on ogryn i think

tall torrent
covert fable
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i liek to run it

safe kiln
tall torrent
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not worth trading dps for it

silent bison
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Hmm revive speed might be the one then,

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How do the damage resists stack? 20% of the base each time?

cyan verge
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I have ordo dockets on mine

covert fable
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im fuzzy on the math but

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best to run 2 of those dmg resist

cyan verge
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even just +20% snipers +20% gunners is good

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helps a bit

silent bison
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The game has so many percentage things I’m never sure how they work

tall torrent
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all multiplicative

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the myth that they're diminishing returns is highly misleading

covert fable
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best to just run 2 dmg resistance right

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or is 3 worth

cyan verge
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well I dunno do you get shot by snipers that much

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gunners might be worth

tall torrent
covert fable
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i just run 2 for gunner

silent bison
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I’ve only ever ran gunners, usually they are the most annoying

tall torrent
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the way people think it's diminishing returns is just one misleading way of expressing it mathematically

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x0.8 x0.8 x0.8

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however this is dmg taken

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each x0.8 dmg taken is essentially x1.25 your hitpoints

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so it can also be expressed as x1.25 three times, and is the exact same thing

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which, is not diminishing (it gets better the more u stack)

silent bison
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Hmm so I’ll take 2 gunners, for my last spot is the 5% health worthwhile? Or just take a third dmg resist

covert fable
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what class are u playing

silent bison
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Vet

covert fable
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šŸ˜Ž

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you have combat ability regen on them all right

silent bison
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Yep !

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It’s always been good

covert fable
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you already took a revive speed on one of the curios?

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i like the revive speed with the shout

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really nice

buoyant pewter
silent bison
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Nah, was mentioned that it was only good with multiple?

covert fable
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true

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no clue tbh

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5% toughness?

silent bison
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Already on em all

covert fable
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oo

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stamina regen?

fervent citrus
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i swear to god once i complete a singular auric maelstrom so my veteran unlocks havoc im 100% just going to my psyker

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this class is tiring

silent bison
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I’ve recently been playing vet just to slowly finish the penance for 100 games :P

covert fable
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what class is your main?

silent bison
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Was psyker when I first started, but I haven’t touched them in ages

barren cave
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Is bistol col or mob

covert fable
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have yet to try psyker but it looks rlly fun ngl

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my first was zealot but that was back on xbox

tall torrent
buoyant pewter
barren cave
tall torrent
buoyant pewter
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Feels like that, yeah

silent bison
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Ogryn and zealot I have a bunch more penances to finish so once I’m done another 20 games with vet I’ll be working on those probably

covert fable
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100 games on all? jeeeeez

silent bison
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Yeah I have a bunch of days clocked in game time, I guarantee most people here even have more than I do

calm shard
covert fable
silent bison
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Yeah like I KNOW I don’t have as much as people here, I take like 6+ month breaks from the game lol

covert fable
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fair

fervent citrus
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ive fully upgraded my peak build, im on damnation

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screw it

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SO

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my ogryn and psyker's on heresy

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and my zealot's on uprising

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what to do

cyan verge
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zealot

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then pick up all the ammo and die to a poxwalker

fervent citrus
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psyker it is

covert fable
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stealth mode with tactical axe and double barrel shotgun is so fun

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and krak gernades

silent bison
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Lost my first game today cause we all got netted lol

signal garden
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@fervent citrus peak build on d4? idontthinkso

fervent citrus
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what

void dragon
covert fable
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its decent but my build definetly needs tweaking

calm shard
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vet's worst ability, and worst blitz on the same build

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the point tax alone is probably crazy

covert fable
steel veldt
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Weapon specialist penace is SOOOOO annoying.

barren cave
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I still have to do that one

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I think I'm gonna do it last, just leave ws on and hope it fills up

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Or Is there some easy way to do it

steel veldt
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You need crit weakspot hits :(

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if it was just kills while active fine

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but crit weakspot kills

cyan verge
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honestly just like

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use the duelling sword

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and stab people in the face

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it'll go fast

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no, no, STOP, stop just spamming LMB

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use the stab

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administer to face

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you can 1-shot mutants

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and almost everyone else

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except like, maulers and crushers

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idk that's how I did it

tall torrent
cyan verge
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oh that's also a good suggestion

steel veldt
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Does bpistol work

tall torrent
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Boltpistol doesn’t have an innate +21% crit chance

steel veldt
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aw

cyan verge
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plus how will you do your best revolver ocelot cosplay with a boltgun...

steel veldt
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Does heavy laspistol work

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maybe that can work

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I don't have a revolver rn

solemn niche
hybrid plover
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Yeah...

trim pivot
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So, I just started using Deadshot for the first time on a shotgunner build.
It's a bug that blocking with your melee weapon also drains stamina?
Pls tell me it is.

little path
cyan verge
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bro is trying to block melee on a class with the worst stamina in the game

trim pivot
little path
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blocking drains stamina

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period

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if you block an attack with any class it drains stamina

trim pivot
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Not blocking an attack. Just the act of blocking.

little path
#

oh okay

#

then no, that shouldn't be happening

#

see if you can make the bug happen consistently

hybrid plover
little path
trim pivot
#

Yeah I'll do some testing in the morning, it could just by a peculiarity of my loadout

hollow ibex
#

That does drain stamina

#

Blocking with your melee won’t

#

Until you’re hit, as usual

trim pivot
cyan verge
#

stop blocking then

hollow ibex
#

Do you have a clip?

trim pivot
hollow ibex
#

OK no worries was just curious

cyan verge
#

no seriously I hope you aren't actually going around holding RMB for any more than like 0.5 of a second

#

just in general

hybrid plover
#

I mean they wouldn't have to for this to be a problem since any moment that they block means they're not retaining stamina

#

Even blocking for like

#

A millisecond will screw you up if that bug is actually happening.

barren cave
#

Which infantry lasgun is best

calm shard
#

IIb

barren cave
#

Ty

steel veldt
#

Man I hate low visibility missions

little path
#

Low light missions are big gae

gentle lake
#

Is gets hot a good blessing

tall torrent
#

but this roll not very good

#

wrong perks

#

shattering impact not good for plasma

#

and stats are off

tame lichen
#

So ive been trying to attempt havoc 40 on every class for weeks. I decide to return to vet, and I complete it first try

gentle lake
#

which blessingare good

tall torrent
tall torrent
tame lodge
#

Blaze Away Optimized Cooling

tall torrent
tame lodge
#

I AM running low havocs

#

Nothing ever happens down there

tame lichen
#

Blaze away and rising heat

honest quiver
#

what would you like to see in a vet rework buh

tame lichen
#

instant reload executioner stance return

cyan verge
#

tfw beast of nurgle spits you out of bounds and you fall to your death

#

good!

tall torrent
tame lodge
#

As long as you can just walk up to people and kill them 1 hit

#

It's going to be suppression focused isn't it

calm shard
#

ranged weakspot hits count enemy as suppressed :)

tame lodge
#

That also means your first shot ain't doing shit

calm shard
#

recon lasgun supremacy continues

tame lodge
#

Which goes against what I just said

calm shard
#

fine fuckin'

#

folding shovels get cleave on their specials like the eviscerators have

tame lodge
#

Tbf though

#

You can make it so you can still 1 shot stuff

#

And have access to that type of talent still

#

Then it just becomes a talent that exists

hollow ibex
#

Suppress a crusher KEKW_ogryn

calm shard
#

poxers and groaners can be suppressed by Chorus

fossil lake
#

Why does this dude make me think of John Cleese?

tall torrent
#

10 more for safe measures

#

imagine if skirmisher stacked from stamina usage instead of sprinting for full second

#

free 25% dmg constantly up

buoyant pewter
#

Question to the gang; Devils Claw, what do y'all think is the best of the blessings and dump stat for it?

tall torrent
#

as for havoc it's kinda a challenge weapon cuz it's just abysmal cleaving at flak

#

best one is mk7 (also coolest moveset by far)

buoyant pewter
#

Mk7 is my fav of them as well

#

XD

frigid shuttle
#

is it wrong to want a las shotgun?

#

so I could use this.

buoyant pewter
#

I would enjoy having a scatter-las

frigid shuttle
buoyant pewter
#

Or a Hellgun

#

Hellgun would be sweet

tall torrent
tame lichen
#

still no Volleygun or Sniper

buoyant pewter
#

LongLas/Sniper Las would be amazing

#

Maybe they're scared it will summon Ratlings

calm shard
#

there's a top tier las weapon in every role a ranged weapon can fill

#

let me have infinite ammo vraks iag I can see no flaws in this

#

or bolter

frigid shuttle
#

I just want to play doom without having to worry about ammo.

#

with the combat shotgun

covert fable
#

what do you guys think of hit and run on the double barrel?

#

i was thinking to use it to mabey close distance to gunners with the immunity to ranged idk

buoyant pewter
covert fable
#

Maybe use the 70% faster reload blessing

buoyant pewter
#

Yep, it helps a lot to make it much easier to use

covert fable
#

Just shoot, swap to melee, kill gunners then reload

#

It makes ur next reload faster whenever that reload happens

#

Sounds so fun

tall torrent
#

finished all vet-accessible melee weapons' sections

trim badger
calm shard
surreal rune
#

is there any way to fit the stamina regeneration nodes into a build?

#

either one or the two

surreal rune
junior grail
#

Is Deadshot talent still being used?

hollow ibex
hollow ibex
#

it's still very powerful on some builds

#

i don't like it tho

calm shard
little path
calm shard
#

because exe builds are dubious

little path
#

mainly just for exec builds for crits

#

can also use marksman for even more damage boosting exec stance

calm shard
#

yeah that's my main exe build

#

I've used it in high havocs but it's uuuuh

little path
#

run a recon las, helbore

calm shard
#

Not really got carry potential

little path
#

uuuh

calm shard
#

So results have been mixed

little path
#

any somewhat more rapid fire ugn

calm shard
#

It's great if you have at LEAST one other competent player on the team who can kill hordes

little path
#

and just shoot things

calm shard
#

Because you are assumedly a good player if you are using exe, and boy exe vet can single handedly kill every single special/elite on the map

#

Before your team even knows they exist

#

And you annihilate bosses

little path
#

desperately wished the free ammo on crit talent applied to all guns

#

or other gun types had an equivalent

#

something like "ballistic weapons apply bleed and have increased cleave on crit"

#

then again bleed on a gun where ideally the guy dies asap isn't good

austere mica
#

Infinite ammo revolver and 25 round bolter magdump

#

And bleed on gun hits is just fine

#

Puncture on bolt pistol makes breakpoints

#

And on bolter

little path
#

Yeah but for things like the vigilant and braced etc

#

ideally you just shoot until they stop moving

#

it would probably make them better at boss melting

austere mica
#

Vigilant cares about breakpoints

little path
#

true, it would help vigilant

austere mica
#

Vigilant with bleed would actually be really good now that I think

little path
#

but like.. I dunno It should be something more universal

austere mica
#

Because it’s built around bursts to kill

#

And if you run the puncture number of 4 stacks a shot it’s 4-12 stacks depending on the mark

little path
#

increased cleave, bleed, rending, impact

#

idk, something to make it so like the bullet hit an artery or made it through a gap in the armor and really fucked up their organs

ornate light
#

having a hard time understanding plasma gun. What blessings are pretty cookie cutter?

late jungle
#

this is the one ..

frigid shuttle
#

honestly have a nasty addiction to the combat shotgun now.

frigid shuttle
#

would still buy just incase though*

viscid salmon
#

is power blast any good on plasma gun? or should i just stick with gets hot

narrow frost
#

I got an idea

#

pacifist vet, deal no damage

faint beacon
#

H40 Meta

grand perch
#

Undertale build

vivid silo
barren cave
#

How do you build zarona revolver

normal bay
#

Depends on variant.

ADS varaint, usually hand cannnon + surgical (or crucian roulette)

barren cave
#

isnt there only on zarona

#

the ads one

#

and for perks im assuming uh

#

cara flak?

#

cara unyielding?

sly orchid
normal bay
barren cave
#

maniac and elite ig

obsidian vault
#

Any suggestions on how to do make every shot count?

austere mica
#

Weapon specialist and double barrel

obsidian vault
#

Do I have to hit all pallets or just one?

austere mica
#

Just one

obsidian vault
#

So just one pellet from the shot and it counts ? Tried to do it with a bolter and it was pain

normal bay
#

As long as you get a hitmarker, it counts

#

Remember to take off survivalist KEKW_ogryn

obsidian vault
#

Thanks very much

azure narwhal
#

i am not a fan of krak nades (just not my playstyle), but i have to do armourbane for the drip, any tips?

#

so far it's just crushers and maulers praying they don't get tapped by teammates first

#

try to run ahead so i can get to the untouched backline of enemies for secure kills

normal bay
#

It's not just carapace

#

Flak also counts

#

You can throw it at clusters of bruisers lol

#

Lethal prox on Bolt pistol also increases the radius for this

azure narwhal
#

smart, will give it a shot, although most flak gets shredded in a matter of miliseconds staregryn

#

might have to pray i get bots

normal bay
#

You can got to CIVI maelstroms too

#

Extra grenades, demo team, 60s regen

late jungle
#

i do still need to run krak for that penance ive practically never switched off shredders

azure narwhal
azure narwhal
#

also, gud?

#

the other blessings i didn't take too big of a liking to, i've always like shred n wrath

clever hedge
#

Probably swab unyielding for maniac for my taste. But still looks good thumbsup_ogryn

steep flower
forest turret
#

something to change on this sword?

tame lodge
#

Starting with the stats

#

Then perks
Flak Maniacs
Flak Carapace

#

Then blessings

#

Uncanny + Riposte/Precognition

forest turret
#

Thanks friend, it's been a while since I entered the game and I'm out of date.

#

Is this okay or should I look for another sword with better stats?

analog mural
#

I would look for another if you got the dockets

#

Dump cleave damage or mobi

tame lodge
#

Look for another when you can

forest turret
#

Is this sword okay? I mean the duelling sword in general

slim copper
#

@narrow frost I added some navigation headers to your zealot compendia, you're welcome to copy it to your official version if you like it:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bbmCeGcFCgF809XozTtxCbRL2lh19RCfo2OaVVMcdjA/edit?usp=sharing

tame lodge
#

High mobility

#

High Damage

#

Good stagger

#

While not the best horde clear, it's pretty safe

#

4.5 cleave on lights is pretty high

#

Ish

forest turret
#

What should I look for most in this sword when looking for a new one? More damage or something like that?

tame lodge
#

Damage
Penetration
Finesse

#

All at 80% maxxed

forest turret
#

I don't remember where I changed the perks.

analog mural
#

Entreat hadron

#

Refine

forest turret
#

🫔

analog mural
#

Garbage

#

Toss it

forest turret
analog mural
#

Good

forest turret
#

Is 60 mobility okay?

spring ocean
#

yeah

#

you have alot of dodges with it

unreal nova
#

More mobility may or may not help avoid overheads, but it already depends on how much room you had to dodge in the first place.

#

Might help with kiting the running event crushers though.

#

Thanks FS, those tanky karks are faster than normal.

forest turret
#

then I'll keep this sword

#

I spent a lot of money but it was worth it

unreal nova
#

It is. Just take note it may be nerfed in the future.

forest turret
#

šŸ™Œ

slim copper
forest turret
unreal nova
slim copper
#

oh I missed that, you're all good with what you have

forest turret
late jungle
unreal nova
#

Agile is good, but it's more a defensive choice.

covert fable
# forest turret ?

I think 60% on cleave damage is better, I'm not sure. Yours is still good

unreal nova
#

I like it cos it is a lifesaver on 300 ping.

late jungle
#

very tiring seeing literally everyone on this game running ds

forest turret
#

o man

#

If it is, I think I no longer have the money to level it up.

unreal nova
# forest turret o man

It barely makes a difference in high play. You won't have the room to dodge the distance.

covert fable
#

It's okay, yours is still good

unreal nova
#

2% more dodge distance vs 5 secondary damage.

forest turret
unreal nova
#

Literally changes nothing.

covert fable
#

Waittt

#

Is mobility just dodge distance????

unreal nova
covert fable
#

Oh okay

unreal nova
#

But the amount is so little...

covert fable
#

I see

#

Not noticeable I assume

forest turret
unreal nova
#

It barely makes any serious difference unless you are horrifically OBSESSED about it.

#

Mobility dump is also better if you plan on using mk2.

covert fable
#

I see

forest turret
#

Is there a difference between the MKs?

unreal nova
#

Mk2 is more hybird. Has better horde clear in trade.

#

Mk5 is funni dodges.

covert fable
#

What about mk6 :> (jk)

unreal nova
#

Mk5 dump pen is extra funni.

analog mural
#

Mk4 has only poke heavies, mk2 has a slashing heavy. Mk5 is the most defensive with ridiculous dodges

unreal nova
covert fable
#

Combat knife?

unreal nova
covert fable
#

Dfhbtyhvstjj, I was just messing when I said mk6 😭 I meant it for the dueling sword ;p

unreal nova
#

I will still suggest mobility dump for when you get sick of mk4 and wanna try mk2.

#

Though you need to learn to heavy into special for armoured.

#

Harder than just heavy spam.

forest turret
#

I think I'll use the MK2, for heavy enemies I have a bolter.Sitgryn

spring ocean
unreal nova
spring ocean
#

oh yeah

#

definitely hard then

trim badger
# forest turret ?

For MK4 it's cleave
For MK2 it's mobility
For MK5 it's either mobility or defenses but I think defenses is the better dump stat

unreal nova
#

Mk5 can also be pen, if you just want a SAFETY stick. XD

#

Use with WS for extra funni.

odd sparrow
#

Ah yes my safety knoife

unreal nova
#

Look, the distance you get flung is hilarious.

#

You can't tell me otherwise.

unreal nova
#

But is funni.

marble ocean
#

Pals what hellbore dump stat? Ammo?

unreal nova
marble ocean
#

Thnx

unreal nova
#

You aren't rapid firing that thing anyway.

marble ocean
#

Ye fair

#

Melk doesn't have anything good as usual

unreal nova
#

That's a classic

marble ocean
#

He had very good power sword few days ago

#

And i missed it

unreal nova
#

Oh... is really rare, yeah.

marble ocean
#

I just needed like 2 hundreds but irl interfered

red fox
#

ended on a run where the director just literally threw every possible thing at us in a narrow corridor

#

Why director why

sudden cedar
#

Tough luck.

#

Good luck next time.

red fox
#

3 patrols of the rotten crushers and then reapers and bombers

#

šŸ˜‚

#

and we were already a man down

#

it was right before the last objective too

#

sigh

sudden cedar
#

Untouchable Operative is as much about skill as it is about picking suitable missions.

#

Doing this with Event Missions is asking for failure.

red fox
#

I made it this far 🄹

#

but yes you're right

#

haha

sudden cedar
#

Still not far enough.

#

As it turns out.

red fox
#

was doing it without shout too

#

cuz i hate myself

sudden cedar
#

I guess you had it coming.

red fox
#

i really did

covert fable
#

This sounds like a bad idea but is it bad to rely on kraks for crushers and maulers 😭

#

I'm using the grenades regeneration skills yes and +1 gernade

#

I'm using tactical axe and double barrel, lots of fun but not too strong against crushers

late jungle
#

well yes cus it means ur not using shredders šŸ˜’

covert fable
#

I'm running a silly cleave double barrel build 😭

#

It's surprisingly good for hordes

sudden cedar
#

Yes it is.

sudden cedar
covert fable
#

Gambler build

sudden cedar
#

Just like casino gambling, you'll get fucked

#

The house always wins.

covert fable
#

Until I win

#

5% is 5%

#

:>

grand perch
#

even if you win, youre still stuck with the worst blitz in the game KEKW_ogryn

covert fable
#

hehe

covert fable
distant plaza
#

kraks are great when leveling and no one has the power to two shot the rare crusher spawn

covert fable
#

A big "f you" to those crushers

sudden cedar
#

Kraks are in fact that bad

covert fable
#

Just turn the crack into a nuke

distant plaza
#

the dopamine hit of a krak actually killing its target is pretty good

atomic void
#

kraks good

normal bay
#

Kraks good because Bulwarks exist thumbsup_ogryn

covert fable
trim badger
covert fable
#

Does character height save you from pox hounds?

#

Sometimes they jump over me

normal bay
#

Well being an Ogryn sure as hell makes it worse KEKW_ogryn

trim badger
covert fable
#

It is?

#

I guess it'll keep you headheight with most enemies

trim badger
#

Easier time hitting heads

covert fable
#

I suppose

ember nest
#

I feel this hard as fuck when playing my vet

#

Cause I made them min height

#

You really

really do feel it

#

Max height > min height

covert fable
#

You can change it

#

For a whopping 50k schmeckles

narrow frost
late jungle
covert fable
#

Oh what

late jungle
#

the 50k thing lets u change ur name and.. i dont know what else

#

but the height stuffs free

tall torrent
#

50k for background, name and campaign replay

sudden cedar
#

Minimum Height on Humans.

#

Better for taking cover

covert fable
#

Is there any point to replay the campaign

#

Ik that twins mission gives a lot of materials but idk

hollow ibex
#

(also better for whacking heads)

covert fable
#

Being small is cute tho

sonic kayak
hollow ibex
#

would be funny if you could increase your height that much

sonic kayak
#

I mean IRL, my only safe place is online chadgryn

atomic void
#

max height is better cause max height is better

#

its that simple

tame lodge
#

Max height propaganda

normal bay
#

You can shoot over the horde

sudden cedar
#

I just want to be like Bardin, okay? Sitgryn

#

Where do we come from? Over the Mountains! Where are we going? Over the Mountains!

past stratus
#

my psyker is min height just because I thought it would be funny to be a little guy channeling warp hell on enemies

#

and it is

covert fable
#

When is dwarf class coming

crude wind
#

Never

sudden cedar
#

Same as Ratlings.

covert fable
#

Wdymmm

sudden cedar
#

Quite a few want Ratlings for some reason.

covert fable
#

What do you mean by ratings

tame lodge
#

Ratlings

#

40k version of halflings

covert fable
#

Like player ranks?

tame lodge
#

Ok we have ab-humans

#

Ogryn

#

Ratlings

steep flower
tame lodge
#

Etc....

covert fable
#

OH RATLINGS

sudden cedar
#

@covert fable Rat-lings. Like rats. But small.

#

RAT-LINGS

covert fable
#

I THOUGJT YOU MEANT RAT-ING

#

Khdhwjsnsksms

sudden cedar
#

@steep flower staregryn

covert fable
#

they should let us control arby dog

sudden cedar
#

Why let Players control something that is, few and far between, simply superior?

#

You would only downgrade the dog.

covert fable
#

Make it a class šŸ˜Ž

sudden cedar
#

AI Dog is better than most teammates.

covert fable
#

(Me)

steep flower
covert fable
sudden cedar
#

You what?

covert fable
#

I once got eaten by a dog to death while this guy was like 2 feet away from me firing at a horde

#

From full hp to death

sudden cedar
#

Okay and?

steep flower
steep flower
covert fable
#

Bro

#

I just let it happen

sudden cedar
#

Bad idea.

steep flower
normal bay
#

Imagine we could ping dogs on top us

Crazy thinking

covert fable
#

What 😭

steep flower
#

Jk btw don’t get it personally

normal bay
#

Well, reliably anyway

covert fable
sudden cedar
#

The Tech simply isn't there yet.

normal bay
steep flower
sudden cedar
#

Maybe he just likes...

#

You know what, iam also going to stay silent..

covert fable
#

.

steep flower
#

I am sorry

steep flower
sudden cedar
covert fable
covert fable
#

It was funny

steep flower
#

I did the same many times in many other games

#

Its amusing

covert fable
#

lol

sudden cedar
#

You just like to suffer.

#

@steep flower @covert fable Its okay. pat pat

#

šŸŖ

sudden cedar
#

Away with those furries.

orchid hemlock
covert fable
sudden cedar
#

I don't like cats.

covert fable
#

Dang

#

What about cars

sudden cedar
plush kernel
orchid hemlock
covert fable
#

Cute

buoyant pewter
#

Poor dog is in-bread

covert fable
#

He's having the time of his life

covert fable
strange pollen
#

Which automatic guns are good other than the recon lasgun?

#

Almost all the other fellow comrades I played with are using that

calm shard
#

vraks infantry autogun is the literal highest dps gun in the game

#

actual death beam that kills anything you point it at

#

BUT it has high recoil, and harsh damage falloff

calm shard
#

the braced autoguns suck

#

don't say that

orchid hemlock
#

I'm the original Recon enjoyer, even before the buff 😈