veteran-class

[tall torrent]

Nah all 3 are op

[hybrid plover]

True

Mk5 I think is like, the most mediocre as an actual weapon but that doesn't say much

But the dodges are so dumb.

[unreal forge]

oh yeah 0.5s stamina regen delay vet

[calm shard]

valid

[bleak tendon]

Vet needs more guns ngl

[tall torrent]

Uh
I think they scratched smth

[bleak tendon]

Where’s a melta

Or a hotshot

[tall torrent]

There’re 2 variants? Of the arbites shock maul

In the publicly available source code

[hollow ibex]

Oh hmm it’s the elites that screw vet Rashad in havoc then?

[tall torrent]

u'd understand if u played havoc

[hollow ibex]

Bruh

I don’t play havoc much and certainly not with Rashad vet

[hybrid plover]

It doesn't screw it.

At worse it can take like

One extra hit to kill beefier targets

But compared to other things, that's still a great ttk against elites

That being said, power sword is just, honestly better at what Rashad does for vet unfortunately

[quick burrow]

look good ?

[tall torrent]

nah it's like 2 hits extra for crusher

it does matter

when the game hands them out like candy

plus, it's got no cleave

[hybrid plover]

Oh right. Crushers.

Yeah that's actually fair.

[tropic notch]

I wish it was good in havoc

It’ll preform but not as good as ps

Damm i really wish the ps wasn’t the only havoc weapon

And give vet second wind

[gentle lake]

dumpstats on combat shotgun is mob right

[bold mural]

Killing an elite with Executioner's Stance doesn't extend the duration, it only resets it right?

[calm shard]

yes

[halcyon blaze]

Finally felt it was time I spent my dockets on rolling for a perfect stat Plasma, 49 bought so far, 568,400 dockets spent.

[junior grail]

I remember the gambling days of Darktide, buying and upgrading weapons, hoping they become decent Blessings and Perks

[hollow ibex]

that's nothing

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/ogvhs-gif-18199871

[inland eagle]

hey guys, recommendations for heavy bolter and plasma rifle builds I can net deck?

[tame lodge]

I still have many bricks sitting on my inventory

[junior grail]

Wow I wish we had a Heavy Bolter lol

I assume it could only work if it was a mounted Turret with limited ammo on a specific mission

[little path]

new vet ability

you have a heavy bolter on your back and you can set it up

but you're now limited to only pistols, the knife and you move at 50% reduced speed when carrying it

you can get off it anytime you want but if you don't pick it back up it stays where it is forever so fi you die and your teammates move on, your turret stays there and you have no abilities anymore

[junior grail]

Laspistol/Revolver and Knife along with the Heavy Bolter?

You're spoiling me for sure

[unreal nova]

Should just have another drop in like 5 mins if you don't pack it up.

[little path]

No >:(

[junior grail]

But the idea of a unique powerful weapon as an ability does open up possibilities

[unreal nova]

You just want ppl ragequitting.

[little path]

Maybe they could make the hellgun like that

[junior grail]

Like Saltzpyre Bounty Hunter, instead the Vet takes out a Rocket Launcher

[little path]

like how bardin has the minigun

[fervent citrus]

is the mkv infantry auto equal to the recon lasgun

[hollow ibex]

higher dps against most enemies, much worse ammo economy

and much higher recoil

so they're very different weapons

[fervent citrus]

im more used to the auto's recoil thanks to my psyker scrier build, i havent been able to enjoy recon nor can i get a good roll from brunt

hoenstly my veteran has real bad luck

but i have gotten myself a godroll infantry for my vet so

[little path]

Bolter

[fervent citrus]

oh yeah bolter

that funny infinite ammo build's only for mortis trials isnt it

[calm shard]

why do you not have iron will

why did you dodge reciprocity

[little path]

gimme a sec

Oh shit yeah, missed recip

[past stratus]

skipping Iron Will takes some balls

going that orange node instead of Reciprocity is just wild lmao

[little path]

blasma

[fervent citrus]

hey guys

was the dump for recon collateral

[little path]

ye

[fervent citrus]

well brunt finally answered my prayers, a MK VIc recon with the dump on collateral

AND a godroll bolt pistol and heavy laspistol

i assume id want the bolt pistol and the las pistol is kind of useless?

HOLY SHIT AND A GODROLL DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN?

[random cobalt]

is the power sword any good?

[round flint]

yes

[tame lodge]

Heretical Slayer 40k when powered

[random cobalt]

which mk?

[tame lodge]

Pool noodle when unpowered

[fervent citrus]

speaking of wasnt the mark VI the better one

[past stratus]

VI is the good one yes

Heretic blender

[round flint]

you do have to have power cycler 4 though, basically a non functional weapon without that blessing

[past stratus]

yeah Power Cycler is a bit mandatory

unless you hate yourself

[hollow ibex]

no good.

(it's the best)

a weapon so powerful it has a mandatory tax blessing

and it's still the best vet melee

says a lot both about the weapon, and about the current state of vet melee options

[past stratus]

Taxing is our soul

I hope that if we do get a rework, they wrap all of our tax nodes into one node and call it "Imperium's Tax"

[inland eagle]

ty!

[calm shard]

las pistol is one of the havoc viable guns for vet

very very strong gun

[hybrid plover]

Las pistol with shock troop is unironically one of vets best setups for Havoc

You have such a high crit rate with it that you could basically be using your Las pistol as your melee with how little ammo you actually use in theory

And it does crazy unyielding damage with infernus.

I'd argue its better as a gun than the bistol is since bistol is mainly useful for lethal proximity in havoc

[fervent citrus]

Fuck and I couldn’t get it

And since I’m busy the shop’s gonna reset before I can get it

Oh well I’ll wait for it to come by again, noted though, should I just sell the bolt pistol

[calm shard]

it's the okayest ranged weapon ever

[hybrid plover]

Question. Would you say have a decent amount of materials rn?

[calm shard]

It's used almost exclusively for making your grenades better

Which is very good

[fervent citrus]

oh it’s part of the funny grenade build?

[hybrid plover]

Yeah. Lethal proximity.

[fervent citrus]

HA

[hybrid plover]

It's not the greatest as an actual weapon.

But it gets the job done.

[atomic void]

bolt pistol is fun af

[calm shard]

yeah its damage is

something

[hybrid plover]

But yeah if you asked me which weapon is more effective as an actual ranged weapon, I go las pistol all the way

[calm shard]

something FUCKING ANNOYING

[atomic void]

just shoot bro again

[calm shard]

AUGH

[atomic void]

wowie i can put more bullets into the guy i hate

[fervent citrus]

I figured I could use it as a bleed machine

Whittle down unyieldings and crushers

[calm shard]

doesn't actually do too well into crushers

[fervent citrus]

Or is the bolter more suitable and has a different setup that isn’t bleed and I’m stupid

[calm shard]

it can if you build for it

but on normal builds?

no

[hybrid plover]

You can but you definitely need a melee weapon with uncanny to do it.

[atomic void]

shooting crushers with it takes too long

[hybrid plover]

Bleed is complete ass against carapace without it.

[atomic void]

on all classes that use it

[fervent citrus]

okay

[calm shard]

and look it's a pitifully small amount of damage short so it takes an extra shot to kill

as per usual

[hybrid plover]

And it's kinda funky cuz even with uncanny, you need your melee weapon out to actually reap the benefit so it's a little awkward.

[calm shard]

tiny amount short on every health type in the gaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

or you could be a gamer and use a meme exe build to 2 shot them

[hybrid plover]

Not only that but you can kinda use las pistol for that same reason with infernus

[calm shard]

establish dominance and all

[past stratus]

Bistol is fun with WS

crit weakspot does nice enough damage to one shot most dangerous baddies

[hybrid plover]

It's fun with run n' Gun too.

Gung ho set up.

[fervent citrus]

ok

i was able to squeeze enough cash to get it

because i didnt have time to do a mission because the shop resets in 2 minutes

[hybrid plover]

Another good thing about las pistol

[inland eagle]

can someone share a good psker build for these weps?

[hybrid plover]

It's very good to accompany something like a power sword because it's got great mobility

[fervent citrus]

great now i have 3 possibly great builds (Recon; Helbore; Pistol) to grind and idk which to do

genuinely lmao

[gentle lake]

Differences between combat axe marks?

[fervent citrus]

oh shit i just noticed as well

the pistol i got's also a MkX

im assuming from damage value alone it's the better one right

[atomic void]

rashad good and no one uses the other two

[fervent citrus]

what might be this setup in question

to be honest i didnt think in a million years the LAS PISTOL was gonna be this top tier but here i am

[unreal nova]

You just need full auto.

[hybrid plover]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f76cf07-b362-4f09-8660-f7f5543167e5/thats-a-lot-of-damage?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[dense belfry]

Should the DB feel so weak?

[dense belfry]

Wossat doing in here?

[little path]

the double barrel?

somewhat

[fervent citrus]

wish i knew how to get mods

[dense belfry]

Yes.

[calm shard]

fascinating gun

[hybrid plover]

Someone asked, even if it technically isn't in the right chat

[dense belfry]

Does power have a thing to do with it?

[fervent citrus]

and also im asking for the talent tree for this havoc-worthy laspistol build

[little path]

The gun itself is just kinda not great

[calm shard]

the double barrel?

[dense belfry]

This is unacceptable.

[calm shard]

It's one of vets havoc viable guns on a WS build

[little path]

most things are havoc viable

the vet has a lot of strong guns

[calm shard]

Well...no

[tame lodge]

Rashad is goated
Antrax has 1.8 cleave and a quicker and safer push attack/Special

[calm shard]

Most things aren't

[little path]

but taking it over like

[tame lodge]

We don't talk about Achlys

[fervent citrus]

then whats the hype with the triple barrel build

[hybrid plover]

Naahh.

[little path]

taking it over the agripinaa might not be the best choice

[fervent citrus]

if it's "not good"

[dense belfry]

Could have fooled me.

[hybrid plover]

Like for one. Revolver actually falls off pretty bad in high havoc

[long dove]

what's the best vigilant autogun?

[fervent citrus]

OH COME ON

😭

[calm shard]

the semi auto one

[tame lodge]

The semi

[hollow ibex]

double shot

[dense belfry]

Use anything else.

[calm shard]

The vigilant isn't that bad

[hybrid plover]

Yeah it depends on breakpoints and the higher health values seriously mess it up.

[dense belfry]

They are a relic of the first era of darktide.

So I hear.

[tame lodge]

Yeah the semi isn't bad at all

[dense belfry]

The iron sights are garbage and it feels weak.

[tame lodge]

The recoil on triple and double are crazy though

[fervent citrus]

i wish the infantry lasgun was havoc worthy

unless it is then i'd cry

[hybrid plover]

To be honest.

It's not bad actually.

Like there are better options but it's perfectly doable with it.

[fervent citrus]

oh

laspistol outperforms it noted

[calm shard]

Yeah

[hybrid plover]

I'd take that over the revolver because it's at least not as punishing.

[calm shard]

Helbore does too

[dense belfry]

Trying shotty on WS build on Damnation diff in meat grinder.

[unreal nova]

Nexus. If you are on PC.

[little path]

Old crit based build

[fervent citrus]

isnt helbore just better because with the right setup it can just melt

[little path]

the surge staff itself isn't used much anymore

[fervent citrus]

ive only ever really modded skyrim fallout and blade & sorcery

how the fuck is this gonna work for an online game

[little path]

better than what specifically

[tame lodge]

Helbores are peak

However

They are not for everybody

[fervent citrus]

infantry las

[little path]

oh

ye

[fervent citrus]

ive been practicing while trying to get it up the IIIa because ive heard thats the best mark

[orchid hemlock]

Skill diff

[little path]

The slow pull out speed and the charging between shots can be annoying

[hybrid plover]

Surge staff with surge blessing is crazy good actually.

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[hybrid plover]

Trick is to never use the secondary much because you want to proc crits with the primary as much as possible.

[little path]

wut

[paper salmon]

I hope we can get a 1 handed melee/pistol dual wield set up one day

[fervent citrus]

anyway whats the talent tree setup for the havoc las pistol

[little path]

then use the voidstrike staff

[hybrid plover]

You heard me.

[unreal nova]

They just do. Check for recently updated ones though. Need to check every big enough update as well.

[hybrid plover]

Higher finesse and crit multiplier.

[little path]

standard Shout vet

[orchid hemlock]

Have y'all tried

Aiming? 😏

[little path]

Crit multiplier is higher, finesse is same I think?

[unreal nova]

I use controller. What is aiming?

[little path]

surge

strike

[hybrid plover]

It has a crit bonus stat, that increases crit damage.

[little path]

according to games lantern. I don't know how accurate it is

ye so crit is higher

does the voidstrike altfire outweight it though?

like the double big balls

dps wise I guess

[hybrid plover]

Combine that with higher chance and also that higher chance netting two balls instead of one and it results in crazy dps

It's far more consistent.

[fervent citrus]

tbh ive never used the mod manager lmao

[hybrid plover]

And the projectiles come out faster

[fervent citrus]

blade and sorcery was EXTREMELY fucking finnicky with the mod manager so ive always just manually downloaded them

[little path]

wait really?

that seems odd. I thought they just copy pasted the lmb on the staffs

[hybrid plover]

I mean the lmb is technically the same

But with surge staff, it's more like a machine gun

Reaching like over 70% crit easily

The quell cancel bug was patched solely because of how strong surge staff with that blessing actually is

And on scrier's, it's absolutely bonkers

You can straight up make it that no one can even play the game because everything will just die at your whim

[little path]

does the voidstrike's altfir work with the talents that boost primary?

since the surge blessing works on its altfire

[hybrid plover]

It doesn't I believe

[little path]

seems like it should apply to the talents as well

[fervent citrus]

call me a big bleeding idiot but idk what the "standard shout" setup is

and i dont think it's just "Middle tree that's it"

[bold mural]

• The first 20% Ammo after a Reload has +10% Ranged Critical Hit Chance
• Critical Hits with Las-weapons consume no Ammo
  If I shoot for more than 20% of my ammo but none are consumed because they all crit, would all of them get that bonus crit chance?

[little path]

yes

[bold mural]

gotcha, thanks

[little path]

it's part of the more meme oriented recon lasgun builds

[little path]

the area circled in red is up to taste

you can go for the middle one to be more tanky

but for me I like the right side because it makes the shredders give back a ton of toughness

[round flint]

i wish i had the spare points for both right and middle T.T

[fervent citrus]

alright thank you

now i gotta pray to god i dont break darktide with the mod manager

[little path]

it's also fine to shuffle around the points in the bottom area

namely you could try to grab the demo team talent which gives you even more grenades

[dense belfry]

Yeah, weapon specialist sucks for
DB

It only increases crit chance instead of base damage.

[little path]

basically meaning you can spam large AOE bleeding grenades that give you back lots of toughness and knocks everything over

[hollow ibex]

sorry what

[dense belfry]

Ft is much better for DB.

[hollow ibex]

WS is THE keystone for DB

[dense belfry]

More damage that isn't reliant on crits.

[hollow ibex]

taking any other keystone is just... wrong

[unreal nova]

Ppl say not to anyway. I think you can ask in the modding Discord for more help.

[fervent citrus]

what there's a mod manager just for darktide?

[little path]

I think so, ye

[dense belfry]

It deals less damage tho.

[little path]

I just install them manually

[hollow ibex]

does it?

[dense belfry]

Have been testing on Reapers.

[little path]

since it's easy to do

[little path]

do you mean it deals less damage

COMPARED to the other ones?

[dense belfry]

It's not concistant imo

[little path]

but are you trying to compare WS to the other keystones?

[dense belfry]

I'll consider it when making a build centered entirely around 1 weapon.

[hollow ibex]

you need to kill 3 poxxers

[dense belfry]

No.

[hollow ibex]

to guarantee a crit with DB

or whatever ragned weapon

3 poxxers

that's nothing

and coupled with manstopper and flechette

[fervent citrus]

where might be this modding discord

[hollow ibex]

you can inflict 6 stacks of bleed on an entire horde spawn

[little path]

I wish manstopper was like

[hollow ibex]

because you get infinite cleave

[little path]

more built into the weapon

or just give the thing higher base cleave

[hollow ibex]

and anything grazed by a pellet starts bleeding profusely

[dense belfry]

Idk what you're on about, veteran has weak weapons.

[hollow ibex]

vet's ass but if you can't kill 3 poxxers, that's really not a vet or weapon issue

[dense belfry]

Might be the age of the character save, but my guy's weapons are ass.

[hollow ibex]

well once you level up it'll get better

[dense belfry]

Yeah, there are too many fuckin arbites nowadays for me to be effective.

[hollow ibex]

though vet's just not that good rn

[dense belfry]

I'm max...

[atomic void]

i love the weak weapons such ass plasma gun bolter hellbore powersword las pistol combat shotguns and autoguns they're all very ass

[barren girder]

are your items maxed?

[dense belfry]

I did stop playing before the weapon reworks tho!!

[dense belfry]

No

[barren girder]

there's your answer

[dense belfry]

They're old.

Pre-rework old.

"0 mastery at max level" old.

[hollow ibex]

tbf most weapons feel ass until they're maxed

[barren girder]

a lot of the items in this game will not feel great until 500 with the appropriate perks/blessings

good news is

[tame lodge]

True
Buff all of those

[little path]

https://tenor.com/view/vegito-vegito-gansta-vegito-suit-drip-vegito-bait-used-to-be-believable-gif-315651423676567245

[barren girder]

you can just pick them now and not rng it

[tame lodge]

[atomic void]

ok i can understand people playing a marksman playstyle complaining about things being knocked over but u cant blame arbi on u not killing bunch of trash mobs man

[barren girder]

nah i blamin da cop fo what i want 🗣️ ‼️

[dense belfry]

Is that why my weapons feel so weak on Heresy?

[barren girder]

fuck 12

[little path]

maybe? Is your weapon at like 12% damage or something

[barren girder]

could be, although you should be able to make anything work up to damnation with enough game sense

[dense belfry]

Yes i can. All 3 of them are fucking beasts compared to my veteran.

[barren girder]

what space said is also very possible

[atomic void]

pretty much every weapon in this game feels off until u get it to max and then add the right blessing/perks combo

[atomic void]

have you tried one of the pinned builds here

[barren girder]

flashbacks to a fucking relic blade roll i got that had ONE damage

[dense belfry]

For some reason, my chainsword is good.

But this shotgun I got recently is weird.

[barren girder]

could you take a screenshot of the stats?

[dense belfry]

No, but a pic will do.

[barren girder]

sure

[little path]

wut

[barren girder]

im assuming taking a pic of the screen

....might be console

or broken screenshot button

[barren girder]

either way i cant judge

[little path]

THE DUMP STAT IS STOPPING POWER

[hollow ibex]

dump stat is mobility

[little path]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[hollow ibex]

you're going to want to replace this one

[barren girder]

ah yup, even with the 270 rating your blessings and perks also arent as high as they could be

granted it's going to be a pain in the ass to farm mastery but honestly, while farming mastery/levels everything feels like shit compared to vet and arbites

[little path]

[atomic void]

see for example this weapon doesnt have the right perks or blessings so itll feel weird
you add the right setup and u mow down hordes

[barren girder]

ogryn and arbites*

[dense belfry]

My perk is from mastery...

[barren girder]

note that those two classes being that good isn't a good thing

they're outliers

[dense belfry]

Does mastery level slower on lower difficulties?

[little path]

yes

[dense belfry]

Fuck.

[barren girder]

the alternative is to spend a bunch of dockets

[dense belfry]

At melk's?

[barren girder]

OR find a good roll of a weapon from melk/armory and just buy that

[dense belfry]

I got to wait for next week.

[unreal nova]

https://discord.gg/rKYWtaDx4D

[dense belfry]

Had to get curios for Psyker.

[barren girder]

nah at the armory, the late game way of maxing mastery is to buy a bunch of gray of the same exact weapon then upgrade it to green then sacrifice to hadron for the corresponding weapon mastery

youll need a lot of disposable money for that tho lol

[barren girder]

oh u can try armory then

[dense belfry]

I forgot you could do that.

[barren girder]

the shop that resets every hour

yknow the one thats not just generic grays

i got a bunch of good roll weapons from there just by checking

[dense belfry]

I'll buy the generic ones.

[barren girder]

that way you can buy a weapon around 300-ish with likely decent enough stats that should be serviceable up to damnation

look out for a double barrel that has 60 mobility and 80 in everything else when you do

[dense belfry]

I got a few from the armory.

[barren girder]

then dont sacrifice that one

[atomic void]

make sure you check out some of the pinned stuff here
darktide is pretty bad at telling players about game mechanics

[little path]

classic fatshark

[dense belfry]

This is closest i could get.

[barren girder]

oh

we meant on the right number

you see how it's like 58/80?

denominator's the max potential of the stat

[dense belfry]

Yeah?

[barren girder]

so you want to make sure that stat's at 60

so that way every stat that contributes to your damage when you max the weapon to 500 will be at 80, while your dump stat (mobility in this case) is at 60

[dense belfry]

I see.

Not good enough, eh?

[barren girder]

yeah, im not sure how much currency you have saved up

buuut thats kinda why i recommended just looking at the armory shop from time to time so you dont spend too much if youre still just getting back into the game

[dense belfry]

I got 20 more!

[barren girder]

of the shotguns?

yea check em LOL

if not you can always just upgrade them to green rarity then feed them for mastery

if you dont get the good roll that is

[atomic void]

honestly if you're just starting out just play with whatever weapons the game gives you

play a lot of missions to farm materials

then worry about leveling up later after u hit 30

[barren girder]

the thing is they've already hit 30

[dense belfry]

How good is this roll?

[barren girder]

returning player

[atomic void]

ooo

i see

[dense belfry]

I am max level

[barren girder]

yeah it's one of those

getting fucked by system reworks as an old player thing

LMAO

a necessary evil cause at least building weapons isnt nearly as rng dependent as it used to be

[dense belfry]

The rework was NOT generous for my level 28 vet.

My psyker was fine tho.

He was spared.

[barren girder]

nope, look at the number under mobility

denominator's still 80

[barren girder]

yea like

im half tempted to just recommend that they play another class to 30 while saving most of the materials

probably less painful than grinding on a nonoptimized vet?

[dense belfry]

I maxed arbites.

And psyker too.

[barren girder]

time for zealot and oggy

[dense belfry]

Soon.

[barren girder]

but if you have enough currency to spend you can def just whale your way to level 20 DB mastery with a good DB weapon

pair it with your chainaxe or something

then just

[atomic void]

100%
im fully convinced they made ogryn and arbite so easy to get into simply because they didnt want new players to suffer through absymal dogpoop until they can build proper weapons

[dense belfry]

Yeah, this nearly bankrupted me, lol

[barren girder]

run WS to guarantee a double barrel shotgun that infinitely cleaves through any horde density you shoot at

[barren girder]

i feel u lmao

[barren girder]

i spent 600k trying to get a good relic blade roll

[little path]

You're looking for stats like this

mobility is at 60

everything else is at 80

[barren girder]

thanks for getting the screenshot space lmao

im eating so not hopping on

[barren girder]

it's honestly such a double edged sword cause so many people who did that kind of have unrealistic expectations of the other classes now in terms of committing to learning the skill floor

[dense belfry]

Did I find it?

[barren girder]

there has been a lot of bitching on psyker chat every now and then from people who came from arby

[barren girder]

that's it!

so make sure to mark that as favorite so you dont accidentally sell it

then for the rest of the DBs you bought

[dense belfry]

Way ahead.

[barren girder]

upgrade their tier to green

[dense belfry]

Then put them I meatgrinder.

[barren girder]

then sacrifice them to hadron for DB mastery

yup

[little path]

I honesty don't mind ogryn being OP a bit. It leans into the power fantasy for casual players

but this level of OP is the main problem

[barren girder]

honestly same

but thats mostly cause like

i notice ogryn players to be less shitheads than arby players

LOL

[dense belfry]

I got 5,000 plasteel.

Let's do this!

[atomic void]

they should make lower level experience less painful anyway tbh

[barren girder]

shouldnt cost you too much i hope

green's just the first tier upgrade so it only costs like what

[atomic void]

ive introduced multiple people to the game and they all dropped it cause it took too long to hit 30 and gather enough mtx to get good shit

[barren girder]

100ish plasteel per upgrade?

[dense belfry]

For 19 shorties? Light work.

[barren girder]

yeaaaa

[barren girder]

fair enough

i probably had a better experience on the upgrade mats front cause i was insane and immediately moved to leveling the next class to 30 after finishing one

so i just had a bunch of mats stocked by the time i was done

[dense belfry]

Heresy difficulty is a grind.

[barren girder]

i only bought stuff from the armory too then only spent upgrade mats for upping tier and getting tier 4 blessings

but never empowering to 500

[atomic void]

the new campaign is a cool idea but too grindy yee

10 billion missions to unlock next diff

[barren girder]

me crying having to reunlock auric on every single character

[dense belfry]

It ate 3,000 of my plaster.

[barren girder]

RIP

[dense belfry]

But it was worth it.

[barren girder]

yea

since you're mostly on heresy rn

i'd say prioritize buying tier 4 perks and blessings and getting the shotgun up to gold

worry about empowering it to 500 later

dont really need to get to power 500 until you hit aurics or some shit

[fervent citrus]

something about the fact the las pistol is meta makes me laugh

[barren girder]

i love the las pistol

[fervent citrus]

we have shotguns, high caliber weapons and bolt weapons but no

[barren girder]

side grip shooting (based)

[fervent citrus]

dinky little flashlight

it go blink blink but it has enough lumens to turn anyone to ash baby

[barren girder]

fax

[dense belfry]

Quell my paranoia, can you sacrifice weapons you have equipped?

[atomic void]

hey man its a beefy laser hand cannon

[barren girder]

nope

oh and another thing

[fervent citrus]

compared to the bolter lore-wise?

[barren girder]

the DB might feel underwhelming in lower difficulties since the horde density doesnt get insane yet, but you'll be glad to have it once you go up

[dense belfry]

Don't go beyond the rickety bridge?

[barren girder]

being able to just wipe an entire column out of the horde is clutch

[fervent citrus]

it's a 1911 vs a fucking barret 50 cal

[atomic void]

i mean las weapons are the most used weapons on the guard soooo it fits

[barren girder]

especially when paired with power swords which also just

wipes rows out of hordes lmao

buuut power sword's a bit clunky to use so your mileage may vary

[dense belfry]

With my BAD db, I used it to combo with melee.

[fervent citrus]

i know

but still what do you mean a flashlight pistol is stronger THAN THE BOLTER?

[dense belfry]

Reminding me, i got to grind so I can do this with shovels...

Yaaaaay.

[atomic void]

i dont think las pistol is stronger than bolter tho

[fervent citrus]

tbf ive got its uses, it's fun on the arbitrator

[fervent citrus]

ingame

[atomic void]

bolter is one of the strongest weapons in the entire game

ye

[fervent citrus]

in darktide it apparently is, in lore it's like a fucking pool noodle

[atomic void]

heavy las is cool but bolter is still mega powerful and verstile

[dense belfry]

This works wonderfully.

[atomic void]

i take it on all classes that can use it

[dense belfry]

Mastery 16

[barren girder]

https://youtu.be/wHa_5KJvqOQ u can skim through a bit of this to see how the db shotgun performs maxed out with the meta blessing combo

[dense belfry]

Putting that in the archives for soon.

[barren girder]

i remember ainz also shared a vid when i first asked abt this build but i lost it lol

[dense belfry]

Any key words you remember?

[barren girder]

but yeah db vet build's def a bit more melee oriented than typical build

not really

[narrow frost]

guh

[barren girder]

itd be really funny if it wasnt ainz and i was misremembering

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-ping-pingus-bingus-cat-gif-18905873

[dense belfry]

This is why you start a personal discord server as a poor man's archive.

[barren girder]

https://youtu.be/IhrV7dDOmqo?si=43luRkYZRdqd1Olc found it

[narrow frost]

that was a fun match

chasm station is a great map

that was our 2nd run too

2nd attempt

[barren girder]

yeah this vid convinced me to grind out my db and WS db hasnt left my rotation since

i use it when my aim just isnt working with the helbore lmao

[dense belfry]

I don't hate maps, i hate how weak the AI team mates are.

[barren girder]

....which reminds me, anyone have a link to the cookie cutter recon las vet build for havoc? i gotta remake mine

[dense belfry]

The hellebore should have a charged burst I reckon.

Reference to "the mad minute" the British had in ww1.

Also because 1 charge shot isn't enough to hit with those irons.

[barren girder]

i like it well enough but it's definitely an acquired taste

way better now though since they buffed the drawtime and hitbox

mk 4 kills crushers in like 2 hits

[dense belfry]

I only have 1 for a krieger build.

[barren girder]

it's fun if it's a playstyle you enjoy

[tame lodge]

Ainz is famous now 😭

Remember us when you're in the top leagues

[barren girder]

i did not find that vid on my fyp, they linked it to me

if you were under that impression LOL

[dense belfry]

V cyberpunk line.

[dense belfry]

YOU WERE RIGHT, I JUST HAD A BAD DB!!!

[faint beacon]

How it feels knowing you just built the gun incorrect and it’s actually amazing

[dense belfry]

I just didn't bother building before.

Didn't know how.

Also was broke then.

Last time I trust "emperors gift"

[hollow ibex]

yup

can't trust the emperor

[barren girder]

dead ahh corpse emperor

[fervent citrus]

are you two fucking serious

[narrow frost]

2

[unreal nova]

Corpse on a metal loo?

[barren girder]

custodes do be changing big E's undies

[fervent citrus]

ok

[grand perch]

ngl taking stamina regen node and serrated blade over agile engagement in a DB shotgun WS build is kind of crazy

[unreal nova]

Heh.

[barren girder]

tbh i was more focused on showing the gameplay than the build

[bold mural]

Do ranged enemies get affected byu Ventilation Purge (Visibility reduced)?

[hollow ibex]

lol

no

[bold mural]

😦

[unreal nova]

Ai cheats.

[tame lodge]

Yes

[bold mural]

Now I'm confused.

[tame lodge]

Reduced detection range by 30%

[dense belfry]

Clearly not the ones that we deploy with...

[barren girder]

@hollow ibex for your basic bitch recon las build, is there any node i can give up for the las crit ammo sustain talent? or is it generally not worth it?

[tame lodge]

Once they spot you they just going to chase you

[unreal nova]

Heh.

[dense belfry]

They all died to a BoN

I was.. L4D.

[hollow ibex]

you could drop this node

on the middle right

[dense belfry]

Useless.

[bold mural]

oh, huh. is this just aggro range or does it also affect how close they have to be to you to shoot

[tame lodge]

Afaik only detection range

[bold mural]

gotcha, thanks 🙂

[dense belfry]

Is that only for melee?

[tame lodge]

Do keep in mind that you can still aggro from a distance with your flashlight

[barren girder]

oh hm, guess inferno uptime is the tradeoff

[tame lodge]

Oh and lights out mission reduces detection range by 50%

[dense belfry]

This is why I aggro by telling the ogryn to throw a rock.

[barren girder]

i figure the crit ammo talent's useful in havoc tho

[dense belfry]

The wha?

[hollow ibex]

no for all attacks

[hollow ibex]

reciprocity would prob be your biggest source of crit anyway

[barren girder]

this

[dense belfry]

Not good for that build, eh?

[hollow ibex]

it's good, but not a must have on my recon las build

[dense belfry]

Just hit headshots. Probably more concistant than the crits.

[barren girder]

i've been wanting to make a recon las build for when im too tired to play helbore effectively on havoc but also still need to do ranged specialist duty so i cant DB WS

will give this a shot

[dense belfry]

Recon las seems like it MAY be good for bosses.

[barren girder]

oh yea it is

i run it on my gun psyker

absolute workforce of a gun for most things that arent carapace

[dense belfry]

Do you run It with assail?

Just asking.

[barren girder]

yea u kinda have to

[dense belfry]

knew it

Anyways.

Recon Las... why are the irons so high?

It's a laser weapon.

[hollow ibex]

don't question 40k weapon designs lol

[dense belfry]

Its' just going to be improperly zeroed forever!

[dense belfry]

I will.

It's fun.

It is fun to complain.

[calm shard]

carryhandle

👍

[fervent citrus]

so

i assume raking fire and dumdum for the las pistol

[dense belfry]

Now the weapon will have the worst Height/bore ever.

Been working on my shotty build.

Any of you got feedback?

If so, I got it right here.

[calm shard]

though there is the "hydra" mount irl

which is used for CQC stuff apparently

it's used for short rifles that can't fit a laser on their handguard

[dense belfry]

That shoots projectiles that curve with gravity and curvature of the planet.

Not lasers.

[hollow ibex]

dumdum yes, raking fire basically never

[fervent citrus]

then whats my other blessing

[hollow ibex]

ghost/desperado/infernus is the second blessing option

[fervent citrus]

mkX btw right

[hollow ibex]

II is the better one

X is a meme

[fervent citrus]

SERIOUSLY?

fuck

[calm shard]

it's not that big of a deal just change the mark

[fervent citrus]

...i dont have enough mastery to do that

[calm shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/246140539039252481/1337259957535375381/IMG_1886.gif

you should go get it then

[fervent citrus]

wow ty

[tame lodge]

[dense belfry]

This DB build is fun.

Why didn't anyone show me sooner?

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-albert-you-didnt-ask-gif-15086203

[dense belfry]

Rail

*real

Thanks everyone.

[fervent citrus]

so besides the power sword whats good havoc-worthy melees

from what ive heard the dueling and knife are worthy

[rigid pilot]

Yes

That is true

[fervent citrus]

any else?

[rigid pilot]

Everything

Depends on your loadout

[little path]

Dueling sword, Rashad combat axe, knife and maybe heavy sword are the most meta options

the chain weapons both have 1 decent mark

the rest are probably fine but no one talks about them so idk

[bold mural]

Mutant damage counts as taking melee damage for the penance right?

[calm shard]

no

[calm shard]

combt axe isn't havoc worthy on vet

[calm shard]

Heavy Sword, Power Sword, Knife, Dueling Sword

That's it

[fervent citrus]

in your opinion what hits hardest with the las pistol setup

[grand perch]

tac axe

[calm shard]

does it take melee investment or can I free myself from the heavy sword/power sword hell that is exe vet in havoc

and use somethign else god

[grand perch]

i use it on my mmf build as well, no melee talent on that one

[calm shard]

thank god

how do you build it

unarmored/flak for bruisers?

[grand perch]

i dont think that changes their BP so i went with cara and maniac

since rager waves are the bigger issue anyway, but taxe is great at dealing with them

[calm shard]

yeah push attack stagger and good stagger special

also funny dodge profile

[grand perch]

decimator + headtaker since you arent proccing bromentum much anyway. helps more with crushers and bosses to stack those buffs

[calm shard]

feels wrong but I'll take it

anything to use a weapon with mobility

playing gun psyker too much has hurt me on a foundational level

[grand perch]

scav's got a great one

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da7999f-314a-47e5-a245-2df66897ac31/ammo-fountain-havoc-40

[calm shard]

hmmm

[fervent citrus]

ok just tell me the power sword perks cause i dont remember

i cant find anything else from brunt rn and i soooo do not wanna dump my money again on RNG

[calm shard]

ngl I expected that damage to be a lot worse

[calm shard]

carapace/unyielding iirc

wait no

carapace+elites

crusher 2 shot

[fervent citrus]

and the las is flak/unyielding?

[calm shard]

I think so yeah

[umbral parrot]

I'm telling you. Crit Chance and Elite works like a charm.

[little path]

Path say it good so me also say it good

me have 0 thoughts and only parrot shit

Also which powersword mk was the good one?

mk6 right?

[hollow ibex]

yeah

tho not like mk3 is bad

a bad powersword is still a good weapon

[distant mural]

I would go flak maniac power cycler and slaughterer.

[hollow ibex]

Brumentum

Not slaughterer

[distant mural]

Nah

[hollow ibex]

Perks are usually maniac carapace / elite

[distant mural]

Carapace hardly worth it imo

[hollow ibex]

Wrong but that’s ok

[distant mural]

No

[hollow ibex]

Do you know how brumentum works

And why it’s taken on every weapon it’s available on

[distant mural]

Yes

[hollow ibex]

Then you should know better

[distant mural]

Ive tried both i prefer slaughterer

Lol

[hollow ibex]

It’s ok to prefer the worse option

[distant mural]

Get off your horse mate

[hollow ibex]

Explain to me how brumentum works

[distant mural]

And blocked

[hollow ibex]

Lmao

Guy couldn’t handle the truth

[calm shard]

how does brutal momentum work?

haven't used it in a while

[little path]

yes but also you acted aggresively for no reason

[hollow ibex]

Nah if you’re going to be an ignorant ass, don’t mislead other people with your ignorance

Common politeness to keep your ignorance to yourself

[distant mural]

I dont like meta slaves dont accepting any other opinions

[little path]

"meta slave"

[calm shard]

brother we're playing veteran

nobody here is a meta slave or we'd all be psyker...

hey wait a minute

[hollow ibex]

Guy gets angry when I call him out for misleading someone asking for advice

[little path]

I love that meta slave gets thrown out the nano second someone disagrees with anyone in darktide

[distant mural]

Im not misleading anyone i just told my preference

[hollow ibex]

Pretty sure you spend more time here than in Psyker chat

[distant mural]

I never said its better or anything

You are ignorant

[little path]

I'm actually a psyker main

but playing an OP class that stunlocks the room nonstop with 0 threat to himself gets boring

[hollow ibex]

Says the guy literally spreading fake news framed as objective truth

[distant mural]

Just no

[hollow ibex]

Still waiting for an explanation of how brumentum works

[distant mural]

I just said what i like on my power sword

You are just making atuff up now

You can read yourswlf no?

Fucking bot

[calm shard]

all those nerds ever talk about is staff builds

[little path]

the psyker guide is outdated

[hollow ibex]

lol you responded to someone’s request for help with an answer presented as guidance

[little path]

pretty much only the ogryn and vet guides are up to date

[calm shard]

and uh well

my veteran is higher level now

[hollow ibex]

Maybe next time clarify first that this is just your subjective, unresearched, and unsubstantiated vibes of what should be taken

[distant mural]

It says i would not you should learn english

[hollow ibex]

Because otherwise, it will be assumed that you know what you’re talking about

[hollow ibex]

Says the guy who can’t even respond with a grammatically correct statement

[distant mural]

Bohoo

[hollow ibex]

Go spread fake news somewhere else, your kind is not welcome here

[distant mural]

Bohoo sirosky is wrong and coping

[calm shard]

Man doing all this just to avoid having to say what brutal momentum does

Weird man

[distant mural]

Do somwthing about it then 😂 goddamn clown

You dont tell me what to do man.

Go read it yourself

[calm shard]

But the description in game isn't exactly correct is the problem :/

[distant mural]

Still i dont have to explain anything he can do it himself.

[calm shard]

At this point it's looking like you can't explain it more than just simply not wanting to

[distant mural]

We all have google dont we?

Weak argument

[narrow frost]

So no zealot?

https://tenor.com/view/silly-funny-reaction-meme-stan-twt-horse-gif-5445268815333743861

[little path]

idk anything about zealot

for me zealot is the meme class

That guy who uses every movement technique to get 100 meters ahead of the team to die to a hound and leaves

[calm shard]

weird

[bold mural]

Does Covering Fire also buff you?

[calm shard]

I normally use every movement technique to express delivery myself to a crusher overhead

[calm shard]

No :)

I think it's literally the only talent in the game that says "allies" and doesn't also count you

[little path]

zealot for me? Well he's the guy who brings a flamer and wonders why he keeps dying to snipers

zealot for me? Well he's that reliable melee frontliner who either sits at full health the entire game or has gone down 6 times

when I think of zealot, I think of every time I've flipped a coin

They'll either 2 shot the chaos spawn then proceed to die to a barrel

or they'll be using the relic for 40% of the game and be that anchor that keeps your team in the fight

[bold mural]

:C

[grand perch]

That's the only issue with that talent basically

[supple coyote]

you missed something

zealot is the one who YELLS

[bleak oasis]

You forgot shroudfield elevator rushers who will gladly let you break through a wall of gunners and reapers with 1 less man

[junior grail]

I only Shroudfield on the front lines

Get enemy aggro, disappear, reaggro. Confuses them so much its fun

[tall torrent]

Vet guide isn’t
But the steam ver of vet guide will be

Currently speedrunning melee weapons

Then enemy breakdown

Then curios

Then example builds x6

[junior grail]

Oooo looking forward to helbore builds

[plain osprey]

Playing gun psyker soon. Time to whip out veterans favorite... Infantry autogun vraksian MK five

[digital barn]

Is there a place where I can see cosmetics for weapons? I need some so damn bad lmao

the vet guns kinda ugly

[ocean swallow]

https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Commodore's_Vestures

[tall torrent]

Weapon cosmetic view improved mod

[digital barn]

yeah but sadly they never sell anything for recon lasgun I feel like 😭

or anything that would match the 53rd armor (I just got It tonight finally)

[long dove]

is the default Mk 4 Helbore still the one with the best sights?

[normal bay]

Yes

Although I hear the vostroyan skin is good (currently bugged)

[long dove]

that battle forge one looks cool but ehhh with those sights

[boreal aspen]

I feel like Veteran is like the neglected stepchild of Darktide, ngl.

[tacit sonnet]

veteran had like 3 talent tree reworks

[tame lodge]

Veteran and neglected

This vet muhfuh was the most busted class at launch

And still has the most busted weapons available

Somehow Fatshark addressed the main issue with Helbys

But they can't do that with Dclaw

💀

[grand perch]

Make the parry have 100% rending, weapon fixed

[tame lodge]

Another "fix"

Not addressing the poor flak

Lmao

[grand perch]

I'm in the fatshark spirit!

[tame lodge]

😭

[grand perch]

Dclaw can't be good before chain sword

[tall torrent]

power sword not as good as arb maul

or arb with rashad

[tame lodge]

Isn't it already?

[grand perch]

I checked games lantern and apparently chsword is the best!

[clever hedge]

Counter point,
launch zeolet
Counter point,
Rumbler
Vet skill tree rework when?

[tame lodge]

Launch zealot

Getting out melee'd by launch psword

[grand perch]

Man, Launch state of DT

Remember when ilas mk12 was the thing to use

[clever hedge]

What a meta that was indeed

When picking psykers was just throwing

How things change

[tame lodge]

I like how psword went from 7 charges

To 3

To people asking it to be like Relic Blade

We are going full circle

🗣️

[sudden cedar]

Truskan Snowhounds Recolour. Liking the scheme, but.. oh well.

[solemn niche]

reflex check: failed https://streamable.com/m7avpa XD

[sudden cedar]

Skill Issue.

Should have seen that non visible gunner.

[sly orchid]

guh

just the arbites melee boosts?

[sudden cedar]

Nevermind it appears to be a Shooter, my bad.

[tall torrent]

mainly atk speed & stagger safety tbh

[sly orchid]

it does also have mobility over powersword

but powersword just hits like a truck

[tall torrent]

nope

[sudden cedar]

There is an event going on..apparently.

https://tenor.com/brYN5.gif

[tame lodge]

When the class so mid it has worse dodges than vets psword

[tacit sonnet]

I want shotgunners from darktide beta test back

I want them to deal like 200 damage per shot with ideal accuracy and no fall off

[sudden cedar]

Something something bait used to be believable.

[tame lodge]

Shotgunners are my nemesis

It's over

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-web-of-shadow-peak-cinema-sad-gif-7340388374421121993

[tacit sonnet]

I can't call shotgunners elites in their current state

Default shooters are scarier than shotgunners

Shotgunners currently are just chaff for psyker to proc psykinetic aura or combustion

[heavy rover]

No, shotgunners exist to make funny noises when they die that make them sound like Luigi

At least to my ears

[tacit sonnet]

Need an audio mod that adds mario HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAA noise to them when they die

[heavy rover]

When someone goes down it should play Mario going "mamma mia"

[normal bay]

I've found a new respect for shotgunners from one time where a bunch surrounded me and decided to still use their shotguns at melee range

[carmine zealot]

I can't forgive the giant diving boots that come with all the high-end Veteran cosmetics.

[tacit sonnet]

I think they should remove melee weapons from shotgunners

just take them away

Use the fucking shotgun

[carmine zealot]

Looks even worse because the Veteran often forgoes gloves and gauntlets for that "pro-sniper" look.

[past stratus]

I don't like the big boots either

plastic ahh shoes

[carmine zealot]

They're actually Scion boots, I think.

[past stratus]

toy r us boots

[carmine zealot]

If they gave us chonky gauntlets to match then maybe, but the Veteran often doesn't even wear full gloves.

[past stratus]

how you gonna shoot your little gun with chonky gloves 😔

[carmine zealot]

Yah the Veteran is a pro-sniper and too cool for gauntlets.

But then they should ditch the massive boots.

[distant mural]

I like me stomping boots

[past stratus]

Vet has a few really nice armors but generally speaking, it is store dependent for drip 💔

[ember nest]

I thank fs every day for the penance track and havok penance armors

Whoever decided not to give them (the moebians) ginormous boots was a genius

[past stratus]

at least Vet does better with its free clothes than Psyker, Psyker's free shit is ass

[carmine zealot]

The Moebian 6th and 53rd armor sets are basically Scion carapace armor (with a shorter cuirass and no tassets), but the 6th set has no leg armor at all except for knee pads. And the 53rd for some reason doesn't use the chonky Scion boots.

[ember nest]

Thank fuck they don't

[carmine zealot]

So the one armor set that matches the big boots doesn't have them while the rest are cursed with them.

[ember nest]

Are the big boots scion?

I see armored boots but they don't look comically chunky like on the vet sets

[past stratus]

we shouldn't be asking for a talent rework, we should be asking for a boots rework

[tame lodge]

synchronized shotgun racking

Been there experienced that

[carmine zealot]

"Scion" boots since they have the winged skull like in the Scion artwork, btw. See https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/5/5b/55th_Kappic_Eagles.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160828062925.

[normal bay]

Even worse, slightly out of sync shotgun racking

"Dodge this, you fucking casual"

[ember nest]

They're too wide imo

But then again both the scion and enforcer helmet ingame are comically huge for no reason

There's something inherently infuriating about scab gunners getting better looking boots that would fit better too

[carmine zealot]

The vambraces with the data pad on the Scion are also similar to the ones on the Moebian sets, although the breastplate and shoulders are much heavier. See https://www.warhammer.com/app/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120105055_TempestusScions01.jpg?fm=webp&w=920&h=948.

Btw, Scions used to look more like SAS or Paras: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/4/44/Stormtrooper_2nd_Edition.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110804201020 https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/b/b9/Stormtrooper.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110804201132

The ones in DoW2 follow the bottom "tacticool" design. It introduced carapace armor for Scions, while the older top design was flak. "Hellguns" that were somewhat shorter ranged but powerful enough to pierce power armor were also introduced, while the older design used the "Hotshot Lasgun" that had identical stats to a bolter. The modern Scions seem to be using Hotshot Lasguns again.

[ember nest]

Just looks like they got more advanced

They still pay homage to the original with berets and stuff

[void isle]

Other lasguns could be loaded with hotshot magazines, which was basically one entire mag worth of shots fired at once

Shows up in gaunts ghosts

WOuld love it if we got that ability on a lasgun

tbh I feel like vet needs to be a beefy ranged in the way arbites is beefy

melee

I wanna use a volley gun

or a melta

[primal crest]

Hey all. I'm just coming back to this game after a long time away. What's the best melee and ranged weapons right now, if I'm an Auric-level player (havent tried pushing Havoc yet, and don't really want to right now), and the type of gameplay I prefer is ranged-focused (yes, I know everyone needs to melee, but I like popping heads most of all), and dealing with specials/elites/ranged threats for the team? Don't worry about specific stats or builds, I'm just interested in the general info of what weapons people like right now.

I've been using power sword and recon lasgun so far, but just curious if there are other options I should try. Thanks!

[void isle]

For head popping can't go wrong with the bolter

plasma is also good

[primal crest]

bolt pistol, or spearhead?

[void isle]

both are good, but the spearhead is a lil better I feel

though you want the pistol with the vet bleed build

if you do that

[primal crest]

ok cool. I'll look into bleed bolt pistol build. I havent tried that. Thanks!

I've used spearhead and plasma in the past. And they definitely felt strong, but I don't jive too well with the slow weapon types, with like the long weapon swap animations. I prefer to whip it out fast. 😛

But that was awhile ago, maybe things have changed with them since I last tried.

[tame lodge]

Power sword 6 + Helbore/Plasma/Recon/Bolter/Bolt Pistol

[bitter turtle]

They buffed swap speed for bolter

[void isle]

It's bolt pistol, regen shredder nades and knife

for that build

you can look it up real easy, it's super common

[normal bay]

Helbore

Infantry Autogun

Double Barrel

[void isle]

I actually like the double barrel

on my zealot

[normal bay]

Slug Combat Shotgun

[normal bay]

Ironically I don't like it on zealot lol

[primal crest]

Shotguns sound fun. I had heard they buffed them. Is it actually true for veteran, or was that just Arbites that shotguns feel good for right now?

[void isle]

arbites shotguns are in a different class alltogether

[normal bay]

Good for both

[void isle]

they fucking BLAM

[normal bay]

The precision combat shottie is great

[void isle]

(arbites exclusives)

[halcyon blaze]

I remember my first 40k video game was Fire Warrior, and they had the old style Stormtroopers from that bottom artwork (also Steel Legion for the early missions planetside).

[compact oracle]

agripiina combat shotgun is in a great place right now

big ammo capacity, good sniping, good monstrosity damage

[tame lodge]

It's true for all shotguns

Agripina shotgun is currently the best shotgun in the game

[primal crest]

This sounds really good to me. I'll try that too.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone!

[stiff glacier]

it feels like this new event mode is perma shocktroop gauntlet

[tame lodge]

Good

[hollow ibex]

ooh

nice

sounds fun

[stiff glacier]

i dont really like tankier maulers and crushers

[tame lodge]

The secret ingredient is that they are infested

Just get something good against it

[stiff glacier]

yuck

[tame lodge]

Like heavy sword

Or Chainsword

We are about to see silly levels of Chainsword

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-smile-sukuna-sukuna-smile-freaky-sukuna-gif-4852549280133734300

[stiff glacier]

just reblessing my plasma and power vs infested

speedrun event

and never touch it again

[normal bay]

WS Heavy sword time

[tribal tangle]

Yall got any of those non-ws non-voc melee builds that aren't garbage

https://tenor.com/view/we-aint-found-shit-spaceballs-lost-looking-gif-11190682

[grand perch]

Why make a melee build without the one melee keystone

[tribal tangle]

If you wanna do hybrid its about the only option, still kinda butt

[grand perch]

Like, there's FT but hardly a reason to pick it over the keystone that's right under all the best melee talents

[pallid jetty]

helbore

just helbore

pew pew

its buffed, feels good