veteran-class

[calm shard]

s m h

[marble bridge]

i think thermal because the blessings trigger off high heat% and low thermal gets you there faster

same idea as why dump warp resist on psyker sticks

[tame lodge]

Dump thermal and you lose shots

[sonic pecan]

i just want a 17% toughness curio melk, you rotten motherfucker

[tame lodge]

Gotta make those shots count

[tall torrent]

doesn't quite work like that

[barren cave]

Is it even possible to get a max Stat curio from brunt or mission rewards anymore

[narrow frost]

yes

[marble bridge]

wait wh

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/wat-what-huh-confused-kitten-gif-16578675544592554435

[barren cave]

I guess the bright side is melk bucks are kinda useless now, so you can keep spending them on rolling curios

[tall torrent]

yea
the minute % difference gained by having a lower themal resist doesn't quite make u stack those blessings faster

but it will make u have fewer continuous shots

[marble bridge]

oh wait yea

nvm that makes sense

[sonic pecan]

how is it when i pick talents at random and take a green brauto and catachan into an auric i do better than when i use an established, well thought out build with fully upgraded weapons on vet

it rewards not thinking

[marble bridge]

how is the catachan even? i see nobody talk about it but in my experience it feels really nice to use

[barren cave]

It's great for hordes

Dclaw I'm assuming

[calm shard]

if you mean the sword

[marble bridge]

yea the dc4 the sheet metal one with holes

[calm shard]

it has abominably bad armor damage

but the parry is a cool gimmick

[hollow ibex]

bad

and a meme

[barren cave]

It can be very painful against carapace

[hollow ibex]

it's painful against flak

[calm shard]

maybe if it didn't do less than 100 fucking damage into flak armor on a swing I'd use it

[hollow ibex]

we don't even need to talk about carapace

[tame lodge]

It's both really shit and really good

[marble bridge]

parry feels really helpful with its armour damage

[barren cave]

Which makes it pretty bad the higher difficulty you go

[calm shard]

yes but it's not exactly always practical to do

[barren cave]

You get so many elites and carapace higher up it becomes a pain to use

[gaunt hare]

good for trash mobs, bad for literally any scab

[calm shard]

and then the game hits you with this when you try to use it

https://imgur.com/a/MwDR7Gc

[hollow ibex]

tbh the biggest threat aren't scabs

it's bucketheads

[marble bridge]

at least on vet it feels ok because it can kill ragers and crushers while keeping me incredibly safe and everything else just gets naded or shot

[hollow ibex]

trolled

and with the taxe buffs

dclaw has become even more irrelevant

[marble bridge]

damn 😔

[tall torrent]

DC sword - gimmick weapon, mid at best
Combat blade - speedrunner’s wet dream

[marble bridge]

i really dont like taxe somehow

[barren cave]

I'm just bad at combat blade

[marble bridge]

except!* on psyker

everything else is just use dc4 or knife

[tall torrent]

Still mid at best

[tame lodge]

Because taxe is shit

It just needs a bit more to it

(remove the cap on heavies)

[marble bridge]

scriers gaze!

[tame lodge]

Not enough

Still capped

[tall torrent]

Still way better than DC sword tho

[tame lodge]

Imagine a world where my 9 cleave taxe actually damages past 3 targets

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-lawyers-world-transparency-mundo-gif-12537590

[calm shard]

yeah...

[faint beacon]

96 damage

OUCH!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546727346355568652/1296950998295777300/giphy.gif

[calm shard]

at least the strikedown heavy does awful but workable damage

[faint beacon]

imagine hitting the most common enemy in the game and dealing Carapace levels of damage

[calm shard]

incredible dps

[faint beacon]

Ignore the 190 damage

it was an instant kill

[calm shard]

imagine using your lights to clear trash and this is the dps you have to put up with

[tame lodge]

Quick question
Where's shovel amidst all those weapons?

[faint beacon]

if it didn't have uncanny it would be ranked far worst iirc

Cause I know he's very adamant of it being a Mid Melee weapon

[calm shard]

shovel is mid tier off of its blessings entirely

skullcrusher uncanny

[sleek garden]

wait to parry in a real scenario

Or pray to

[tall torrent]

I think it’s a bit above DC sword cuz it has op blessings

But the base is just so bad lol

[calm shard]

devils claw has horrible moveset

and dogshit blessings

[tall torrent]

DC sword moveset is fine

Just

Damage templates are fked

[calm shard]

incredible dclaw blessing pool

[tropic notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1030709269697409024/1394506400054644786/7kooGxB.gif

[tropic notch]

Leave

My

Tac

Axe

ALONE

[tame lodge]

Side note
Who painted the dog nails

[tropic notch]

I did

[gilded rock]

Dude the dclaw damage is SUPPOSED to suck because you're supposed to be parrying

This is definitely a practical approach

[faint beacon]

Im just saying they denied us this on Arby

this would've been the funniest shit ever

[tropic notch]

Before the crafting update I had a perfect dclaw

I was loving it on zealot

[gilded rock]

I was praying for dclaw on arb just for that

[faint beacon]

Staggerclaw would've been genuinely one of the funniest builds possible on Arby

and my ass would've ran it

[gilded rock]

Impact claw could have been viable bros...

[tropic notch]

Same

So happy I decided to run the vigilante autos

Thank you gale for the brainwash

[calm shard]

stunlock a chaos spawn with dclaw type stagger

[marble bridge]

just use shred and skullcrusher

[calm shard]

can't use skullcrusher default dclaw impact is garbage

it doesn't stagger anything

[faint beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/mk-ultra-cat-gif-12126318194383520146

[tropic notch]

Soon I’ll be running exe stance

[marble bridge]

it procs on everything except ogryns (sometimes) and bosses (sometimes) but both just get fixed with shouts

[tropic notch]

Live shark influence on cat

[faint beacon]

You will use the Agri 9 Vigil

and you will be happy

[tropic notch]

Gale we should play bo3

You’re supposed to say yes

[marble bridge]

would anyone happen to know why scoreboard doesnt just try and splice the game back together if you disconnect

[calm shard]

with what information would it be capable of doing that

if you aren't part of the match

[marble bridge]

just had a good game and wanted to see if i did good actually but got dc'd near the end

[calm shard]

how is it supposed to gather data about it

[marble bridge]

same match same people and can probably see that i got disconnected or hit a reconnect prompt

[calm shard]

though if it makes you feel any better Power DI the other scoreboard mod actually keeps track of stats for matches even if people disconnect and reconnect

[marble bridge]

power di menu is incredibly jank it feels tho

[calm shard]

how

[marble bridge]

idk just is

[quick seal]

f this game

[spark canopy]

love to hate it

[quick seal]

stupid ass servers made me lose a damnation

whatever

i didn't want to play this game anyways

[gilded rock]

I say this and then my arms start getting itchy so I boot it back up

[spark canopy]

yeap.

[sonic pecan]

id like to communicate with hadrons backend

[gilded rock]

Oops! All barely-maintained rotten flesh

[spark canopy]

bro

bro

bro

i am

about

to fucking

lose my fucking mind

this game's shitass servers

have made me get downed

so many

motherfucking

times

"Hey fatshark I want to switch over to my Taxe so I can deal with this horde that's fucking me like a Collegiate athlete."

Hey, no. You'll stay on your Helbore and you'll like it.

"Okay, can I switch over to my Shredder 'nades and throw them on the ground so I can get a better location?"

Hey, no. You'll stay on your Helbore and you'll like it.

"Alright, fine. Let me use my Executioner's Stance so I can see the Elites and Specialists that are currently resizing my asshole."

[unreal nova]

You have the mod to force the swap?

[spark canopy]

Hey, no. You'll give the sound cue that you activated you, but you won't do anything.

[spark canopy]

there's a fucking mod for that

there's a mod that's out there

that actually allows you to swap

[unreal nova]

to ensure a swap, yes.

[spark canopy]

so what i'm hearing

is Fatshark has their heads so far up their ass

[unreal nova]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/331

[spark canopy]

that they know swapping doesn't work

oh i have so many choice words to call whatever slack-jawed, mouth-breathing, window-licking, paintchip-eating, thumble-twiddling, dick-sucking, mother-fucking, sister-loving cocksucker at Fatshark HQ that KNOWS this is an issue

and neglects to do any fuckin' thing about it

thanks Karien.

[unreal nova]

I mean, half the mods are either QoL or jank fixes.

[spark canopy]

what i'm hearing

is the modding community cares more about the game

[unreal nova]

Which they could have asked to like, implement into base game.

[spark canopy]

than the developers and maintainers

[unreal nova]

or just do it since their game.

[spark canopy]

from what i can tell, Fatshark doesn't have any love for their game

just for the wallets of their customers

[unreal nova]

there is some, but the servers alone shows the care.

[spark canopy]

they give the bare minimum

i mean shit i heard that the next hotfix in in August

we'll have to deal with 1001s, 1013s, 2001s, 2014s for another month

you were in the middle of a clutch situation?

woe, 2001 be upon ye.

[unreal nova]

More, you at wave 12 on mortis? Bonking the DH? 4 man drop out. Reconnect Into failure screen.

[tall torrent]

They been there in the game for almost 3y

[spark canopy]

so what i'm hearing is that the Fatshark devs care more about the shit on the bottom of their shoe than their playerbase

[carmine zealot]

Got to love the weapon switching in this gaem.

[spark canopy]

no but seriously

what tonedeaf dev

KNOWS that weapon switching is broken

and rather than implement the mod (which i assume works like a charm)

they let it fester and rot

driving players away from their game

god damn

what a fucking moron

[carmine zealot]

Could just be corporate things.

[spark canopy]

i don't blaspheme lightly

so i want whatever dev that is

to know that i hate them wholly and fully

there's a fix there that they're just neglecting to implement

and would rather scratch their ass and sniff as opposed to helping their playerbase

and sure yeah it could just be corporate things

[carmine zealot]

You may need to get approval from management to change anything, which involves several meetings and presentations, and then a few back and forths between various higher ups. Too much trouble, so you won't bother for minor things.

You know how it goes.

[spark canopy]

but hearing them say "yeah we know about the weapon switching assfuckery, we're working on it" or "yeah we know about it, we can't do anything about it" would be nice

[carmine zealot]

That requires someone to take responsibility.

[spark canopy]

"we've noticed our players aren't being taken out to dates before getting FUCKED by our horrendous inability to code switching weapons. so we've decided to improve the quality of life and try to implement a change that gets them a dinner date before that."

i don't know what words i can say on this server

but i'm gonna find the ones that i can say and describe that dev in the most vile ways that i can

[carmine zealot]

In corporate tradition that dev is probably "nobody".

Too troublesome to fix things, so nobody does.

At least the mod exists.

[carmine zealot]

Is that the disconnect error? Getting a lot of them these days.

[spark canopy]

yeah.

i've been getting 1001, 1013, 2001, and 2014 with quite a lot of frequency unfortunately

[carmine zealot]

I can't even play without disabling VPN.

[spark canopy]

thank you, Fatshark

for somehow making me love a game in May

and turning it into hate by July

[carmine zealot]

Did you play Vermintide? The netcode was truly abominable there.

I only managed to level up three of the characters fully because it was almost impossible to actually play the game I paid for.

Could never melee without dying, because none of my blocks or dodges registered.

[tall torrent]

That’s not what I said

Some stuff are finicky

Pretty much every online game ever has players complaining about server quality lol

A lot of error 2014s are due to unstable internet connection, not related to the server itself

[hollow tangle]

Whats the best shovel?

[tame lodge]

None

1 or 7

3 exclusively for armor

[hollow tangle]

What would be a better option other than dueling sword?

[hollow ibex]

if you don't want to learn how to play yes

[unreal bone]

Oh man I was cleaning out my inventory

Check out this baby

Pre crafting rework and changes.. Like early darktide, got so luck with this other than the mark Y_Y

[strange crow]

Power sword, combat axe, knife

[unreal bone]

Also hey I remember sometime ago they did away with like uhhh those non-full set bundles right

Did they ever resell the Cadian tanker armor?

Like the sets that aren't a helmet, chest, and legs

The Cadian 802 tanker stuff was like one of the first shop rotations.

was just a coat and pants tho

[tall torrent]

No

[unreal bone]

Damn fr? Lucky me I guess lol

Pairs well with my robo legs from a diff set..

[bold mural]

does the mk XIV recon lasgun have less damage than the mk VIc?

[tall torrent]

DPS-wise, they’re pretty similar outside of sustained monster DPS

Per-shot damage, XIV hits harder but consumes 2 ammo per shot

[unreal bone]

What about the original krieg lol? I know it got resold during warhammer fest once ages ago but after the blue krieg stuff got added

have we ever seen the greycoat krieg again

[tall torrent]

I think it hasn’t returned after its rerun during WH Skulls 2025

[red fox]

Man STG auric is the bane of my existence

[calm shard]

yes and they were 800 aquilas

[unreal bone]

Wait they brought back cadian tanker stuff?

[tall torrent]

No

[calm shard]

no

[unreal bone]

Then why did you say yes lol

[calm shard]

they did reuse the assets for a different 2100 set

[unreal bone]

Yeah I've seen the newer one lol

[tall torrent]

Most recent cadian set is the black armor with dark green clothing

[unreal bone]

Yeah I've seen that one lol

[tall torrent]

Best looking one imo still the kasrkin heavy armor

[unreal bone]

The uhhhh

[calm shard]

but no they've never redone those smaller armor sets in the slop shop

[unreal bone]

This stuff?

[calm shard]

the slot they used to take is now the weapon skins that used to come with the bundle

[tall torrent]

No, this

[unreal bone]

Oh well that's a mix match of multiple sets but yeah

I have the mars camo version of that set

[tall torrent]

The leg piece from that set is a bit different

[tall torrent]

But ya mainly just the top armor

[unreal bone]

The leg piece is this

[tall torrent]

Red armor is so hard to mix with other cosmetics

[unreal bone]

There is actually a red version of those same legs u use on your kasrkin

HOWEVER

[tall torrent]

There’s no good looking red helmet for veteran unfortunately

[unreal bone]

they refuse to sell it

[unreal bone]

There's a few

[tall torrent]

I like voice modulator helm

[unreal bone]

Also this

[tall torrent]

So scion helm is basically the best helmet on veteran for me

[unreal bone]

Yeah

I run scion with elysian normally

[tall torrent]

If they release kasrkin omnishield helm with same voice mod as scion helm, full visor and rebreather, I’ll switch to that

[unreal bone]

I might be making a krieg grenadier or smth though

once I get my Havoc chest armor

[calm shard]

in a perfect world they'd release the standard green version of that shock trooper armor

[tall torrent]

Zealot’s krieg body is pretty much grenadier

[calm shard]

instead of just the helmet

[unreal bone]

It's been in the game since release

we're never getting it

They even had a store splash screen for it

It was supposed to be like the original Cadian 802 set I posted above

Just a chest and legs, so when that got scrapped it probably got thrown away

[calm shard]

can I settle for coping about things that haven't been in the game since release?

[unreal bone]

Tempestus scion armor been in the game forever too lol

[calm shard]

okay that's nice and all

but I could not care less about the tempest scions

I mean the recolors of the flak vest+undercoat

[unreal bone]

My ultimate vet fashion goal until we get Tempestus scions might be

Krieg combat engineer

[tall torrent]

They’re the other flavor of the strongest in-lore regiment we can get for this game tbh

Cuz we’re for sure not getting lucifer black

[unreal bone]

Idk man maybe we will

[tall torrent]

So that mostly comes down to kasrkin & scion

[unreal bone]

Did you see the next regiment we're getting

[tall torrent]

Bakkan

Just snowbound recolor

lol

[unreal bone]

Yeah the praetorian guard

it's a bad recolor too lol

[tall torrent]

Kasrkin heavy armor is funny because u can wear it in the levelling cutscenes and it’s super out of place

[calm shard]

fatshark's cosmetic quality truly is next level

[tall torrent]

Watching Zola tell my fully armored elite kasrkin guy with poxbreaker title “idk if ur good enough for this” is quite funny

[unreal bone]

Fatshark truely knows just how to

be a bigger disappointment every week

Every week I think they've hit rock bottom and every week they seem to dig lower.

[tall torrent]

Maybe August hotfix will finally fix vostroyan helbore lasgun skin’s sight

Helbore IV genuinely strongest ranged for vet

Arb shotguns’ fix maybe coming later

I only reported it this week

[unreal bone]

What's wrong with it?

[tall torrent]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/arbitrators-exterminator-shotguns-suffer-excessive-sway-upon-bracing/111071

TLDR ur aim deviates from what ur actually aiming at when u brace

Which makes quickscoping shots mega inconsistent with them

It’s more sway than the gun is supposed to have and applied right as u enter brace

[tall torrent]

The inquisitor release recently was pretty good

And the Stygian stuff too

It’s just rare when they do release cool looking stuff

[unreal bone]

You saw the stygian flak helmet for zealot right?

The visor was broken to hell

[tall torrent]

Ya

I use krieg set for my zealot

[unreal bone]

I use uhhh..

[tall torrent]

I only like the cadian style armor for veteran

[unreal bone]

The cool catacha chest, but different legs

[tall torrent]

And mainly the kasrkin heavy armor

[unreal bone]

I use the new armageddon chaplain legs and the cool-er catachan chest with mortis mask.

The armageddon chaplain legs are just flat black and it adds more onto that raggedy appeal

Man I should try lethal prox bolt pistol with shredder nades

that looks fun

[scarlet seal]

Would
Next question

[velvet salmon]

is it just me

or does Veteran feel more squishy than usual

[tame lodge]

Nothing changed

[unreal bone]

My next question is why do most havoc psyker players absolutely suck.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1021953999362068590/1092711438126157905/childed.gif

We were literally 5 seconds into a mission

[scarlet seal]

Cause they squishy and just bad psyker

[unreal bone]

and the psyker died to a singular crusher

[scarlet seal]

Probably shitty game sense

[unreal bone]

The problem is partially me

Because every time I'm like

It'll be different

And then it's not

Decent clearence level psyker requests to join

It'll be different this time

It's not

[sudden cedar]

Good psykers are rare.

[quick burrow]

its true im the 99% myself (bad psyker)

[unreal bone]

I play psyker okay, but it's not my best because most of the psyker builds arent for me

Two things you'll always experience in havoc

clown psykers and arbitrators who think they are immortal

[quick burrow]

but when i play arb i am immortal i only die when i run out of health

[unreal bone]

and wipe your group doing dumb shit like fighting an admonition champion right next to a daemonhost instead of backing up for 2 second

[unreal bone]

There's a difference between being immortal and thinking you're immortal.

Being immortal is being smart, thinking you're immortal is not letting off of the W-key for 2 fucking seconds

https://tenor.com/view/iamrigbycat-gif-17122096475275233787

[quick burrow]

but u cant be immortal without thinking your immortal checkmate aethiest

[unreal bone]

Looks like we gonna derank again chat

My teammates shot and blew up 3 different poxbursters in my face that run.

https://tenor.com/view/angry-dog-dog-angry-bull-terrier-terrier-gif-2795674709454464198

[tropic halo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1m3eofv/what_killed_me/ "What killed me?"
Stands his feet on corruption
Low on toughness and health
Gets smacked once by a poxwalker

[unreal bone]

I wish that was the extent of my troubles in this game.

[distant mural]

Poxbusters make people crash out so much its insane😂

Played a 40 yesterday and the poor host left after the 4th burster wich was my fault kinda i guess.

Thing is we had a good team and wouldve defeinetly finished the run

[unreal bone]

No not that

I lost my last havoc life to a random Darktide crash midway through the mission

while we were steamrolling it

I've never once had a singular darktide crash not even on Day 1 unoptimized darktide mess.

[distant mural]

No not like crash the game

[unreal bone]

No I know

[distant mural]

Like ragequit crashout

[unreal bone]

I know what you mean

I'm telling you that I just lost my last life to a crash

and that is about to make me crashout

You're telling me I can't reconnect to my own fucking havoc?

[distant mural]

Ah that succs

Classic fatshark

[unreal bone]

The game itself is fucking with me.

[steep flower]

What rank are you now?

[steep flower]

Very nice! Basically the highest rating you could get

[young aspen]

Indeed, doesn't change much from the 410 though lol

[carmine zealot]

The extra rating is probably from the perks, which are all level 3.

I've had 420 with 16 toughness bonus only but level 4 perks.

[safe kestrel]

Probably because if there’s a weird game lag I can dodge 3 times and jump but still get hit by the overhead. Bumpy server days are hardest if you have the lowest health pool

[tawdry osprey]

veteran new weapon will be a chainsword and boltpistol. it will be S tier. it came to me in a dream

[safe kestrel]

And I mean it doesn’t matter the direction of the dodge. Crushers are bad and psykers have limited ranged options in havoc. It’s usually down to melee for crusher packs. If a team is handling the biggest enemy types it’s a relief because the rest aren’t such a concern

[carmine zealot]

Is Darktide like Vermintide where you get hit serverside although you've already dodged/blocked clientside? I thought it wasn't anymore.

[safe kestrel]

I have no idea and I’m just an acolyte player in the first place. What I have is what I witness. I’ll dodge sideways like you’re supposed to and see a crusher body rotate in mid swing. It really pisses me off because it’s like I can’t dodge them at all if they get too close

[carmine zealot]

Do they track you if you dodge too early?

[warm schooner]

yes

[carmine zealot]

Then the lag may be throwing off the dodge timings.

[safe kestrel]

Infuriating man

[carmine zealot]

It was worse in Vermintide for me. Can't even fight slaves without losing most of my health.

[safe kestrel]

I bet. It sucks because it’s a surprise when things are smooth then you get blindsided by that

[carmine zealot]

Yeah you feel on top of things and then BAM you are down.

[safe kestrel]

Just played a game and dodged like 10 of them and more mauler swings than I can count. But it’s not typically going that well

[steep flower]

Trauma staff exists

[carmine zealot]

Force sword push?

[steep flower]

Takes practice; practice more, it is not that bad

[safe kestrel]

Very valid point, but I hate it for all other situations

[safe kestrel]

Yes that is a game saver in hairy situations. It can fold everything smaller than maulers to give breathing room

[carmine zealot]

Does taking the deflection talent node allow you to tank crusher overheads with the force weapon block?

Just trying to think of other ways to deal with them. Smite might also be viable just to stagger them out of an attack.

[safe kestrel]

No it’s apparently unblockable by all classes except ogryn with shield and arbites with shield but there may changes to the arbites one or something similar stated in data bath link

Kinetic deflection works good but it does run your peril up to ~97% immediately on a few strong attacks

[safe kestrel]

Yes it does and I’m aware of that. It’s very frustrating for when it matters still

[unreal bone]

Chat hear me out, what if we gave vet and zealot access to a hand flamer

(I'm making a krieg engineer outfit once I get my havoc chest lol )

[steep flower]

Arc gun

[unreal bone]

Please no

My tism is already struggling with the thought of me putting away the plasma gun.

[steep flower]

If those exist in 40k for the militarum

[steep flower]

Plasma overrated; still good but overrated

[unreal bone]

Yeah I mean

My thing is like a desire to use the more “unique” weapon options and any of the energy weapons

Like

I use heavy laspistol on psyker since it’s primarily sciers gaze psyker

Plasma on vet

Flamer on zealot

[quiet valley]

Helbore is right there tho

[carmine zealot]

Meltagun and grenade launcher are the other two common special (support) weapons in a the typical 40k infantry squad alongside flamer and plasma gun. Sisters also get storm bolters as SAWs instead of the grenade launcher. Marines get a grav gun instead of the grenade launcher. Scions get a bona fide LMG in the Hotshot Volley Gun (the Scab Gunner's weapon), which IIRC is a special weapon.

[carmine zealot]

The Enginseer might have one. The Necromunda Enforcers also have the super-taser concussion carbine/ram. Flashbang the perps to lower their initiative (dodge) value, then shock them into compliance.

[steep flower]

Since fatfish made arby and that being clearly inspired by necromunda hired gun game… then maybe in the future they will implement those into the game

Time will tell

[carmine zealot]

NGL a tech adept class would also be incredible.

Pasqal was a murder machine in Rogue Trader.

[carmine zealot]

Another possibility is a revolver-style grenade launcher as that was the original Arbites support weapon. I still have the model for it, which even comes with a mono-sight on his visor.

Of course the Arbites already has a lot of electric toys like shock mines and mauls. Even the standard shotgun can fire electrified shot.

In older editions the signature ability of Arbites was the executioner shell, an armor-piercing homing shotgun slug which had a minimum range but increased accuracy further out. It came standard with their combat shotguns.

I think it's reserved for their marksman now, who uses a matching "Executioner Shotgun" with scope and suppressor.

In exchange their basic combat shotguns are now Exterminator models with increased power over the regular shotguns.

They also had a compact bolter design which was adapted by FFG for their RPG system as the "solo bolter", a semi-auto-only model, IIRC.

[honest quiver]

i don't think i've seen this before

[half glade]

you mean the clarifications on the bottom of the description?

[honest quiver]

the blessing

[half glade]

it was there on several melee weapons

[honest quiver]

i have not seen it before and was remarking at that fact

i posted it to encourage discussion about that blessing

[half glade]

I don't mind, just said it was there, so not a recent addition

not a useful one imo, especially as everybody seem to assume a winner's mindset lol So usual thinking is "why gear towards bad situation when I can use blesses that can help kill stuff and prevent it from happening"

like, you will only be at low stamina when pressed hard in melee

and +6% str won't save you (unless it's +6% per stack, but still kinda "hoping for the worst" choice)

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/mortis-trials/buffs/full-auto

I see this talent mentioned in 3 months old YT video, but can't see in vet's tree

has it been recently removed?

[ocean swallow]

this a mortis trial thing

[half glade]

aah..

[carmine zealot]

Should be 10 percent bonus power/strength for every 20 percent depleted stamina at maximum blessing rank.

So up to 50 percent bonus with the stamina bar fully depleted.

[fading yarrow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/m6IgLoaVbG0?si=ChRsaB8mRFLBFhaz

Professional Vet and Loose Cannon Vet

[barren cave]

Is dump Stat for munitorum shovel mob or def

Also which recon Las mark is best

[unreal nova]

Def.

Mobility can work as well.

Recon is VIc for serious, XII for funni.

[barren cave]

Eh?

[unreal nova]

VIc is for tryharding.

[barren cave]

And all the recon dump stats are collateral right

[unreal nova]

Yes.

[unreal nova]

Collateral does nothing in most cases barring niches. If say staggering a unit in havoc with infernus is important, then dump mobility.

[tribal flax]

What’s the point of wounds?

[unreal forge]

when you go down, you lose a wound

[tribal flax]

Ohhhhhh

[unreal forge]

it gets "corrupted"

it's possible to lose a wound without going down, if your healthbar gets too corrupted by enemy attacks

2 wounds means you can go down once, and next time you do, you die

[normal bay]

To buff yourself on a Martyrdom Zealot build

Bait for everything else

[unreal forge]

every class starts with 3 wounds, 1 of those wounds gets removed in higher difficulties. ogryn is the exception, he starts with 4 wounds

[tribal flax]

that’s why I see zealots with like 8 wounds 😭

[unreal forge]

They have a keystone that buffs them in various ways for each missing wound

[safe kestrel]

If your two bars are over 50% purple and your screen becomes less colored, you will die when your health reaches zero

[red fox]

every single one of my auric stg is wiping lol

the whole party just collapses

at some point i feel like theres not much i can do

[gilded wraith]

For non martyrdom zealots, wound curios are a poor curio slot selection. They lower the value of medstims.

[past stratus]

I liked using a wound curio when I was learning the game 👍

[gilded wraith]

Valid.

[past stratus]

wound curios and sniper resistance are the like training wheels of darktide imo

[narrow widget]

you could do
the whole level by yourself

[red fox]

true

My skill issue ):

my 3rd auric stg that failed in the first area

also it

[past stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/sobbing-sob-cry-tears-sad-gif-24749164

I feel that

[red fox]

is really crazy to me that you can have boss crushers and bulwarks and a hrode hitting you and the arbites toughness is barely chipping

ridiculous lmao

[past stratus]

it's infuriating as a Veteran since we're made out of toilet paper

[tall torrent]

what region u in

[narrow widget]

feels like a dry noodle snapping in half lmfao

[past stratus]

toughness is only emotional support since a single groaner can knock it with 2 hits

[safe kestrel]

Man fuck all the arbites if I’m being completely honest. It’s ruined how this game is played. You can’t get one normal match anymore

[narrow widget]

full steam ahead!!!!

[inland orchid]

im confused, i thought people liked the arbites

[calm shard]

weird that nobody said this about ogryn rework

the difference between one being paid DLC I guess

[safe kestrel]

Ogryn stays with the team 3/4 of the time

[past stratus]

I don't blame the Arbites anymore

Vet is just outdated

[safe kestrel]

It is

Unfortunately

[inland orchid]

ya almost the entire cast got a talent tree rework sides him

[hollow ibex]

what you didn't see me constantly bitching about ogryns before arbi DLC?

people have short memories

[safe kestrel]

Maybe arbites was built best for the post update game and that has a lot to do with it

[hollow ibex]

ogryyn made auric insufferable for a while

[calm shard]

I don't see you at all

https://tenor.com/view/bath-hyena-animal-cute-funny-gif-20628652

[safe raptor]

does this need to be done in a single mission?

[dry cloak]

no

[safe raptor]

thank god

[safe kestrel]

Some guy when down way in the back at start of mission. This is another arbites player. The guy ahead didn’t even turn around to look just marking more stuff for his dog

[inland orchid]

ive been (regretably) rocking lone wolf on arbites to see how it fared

[narrow widget]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-lion-mentality-stare-anything-that-speaks-small-dog-gif-15965921308779714815

[inland orchid]

the buff it gives is a good double edged sword on account of no dog to save u from mutants/chaos spawn grabs

regenable nades making me go back to vet grenadier memories

[narrow widget]

imo you could take off the nade regen and it would still be an insanely strong node

[inland orchid]

fair, cant go wrong with a buff to overall dmg and dmg negation increase

[past stratus]

idk I watched ChocoB do some insane shit using lone wolf. My conclusion is that if you're skilled enough at the game you do more without the dog than with it

[hollow ibex]

tbf chocob makes anything look good

but yeah i only use lonewolf as well

[narrow widget]

I would use lone wolf more but then I realize it's just vet and then I go back to what I'm used to

[red fox]

Asia

[proper delta]

whats the best chaff killing melee

heavy sword?

[red fox]

We really need a buff to survivability

[narrow widget]

psword

[red fox]

Im torn between rashad and P

It's so nice not having to activate a special to kill stuff

[arctic rampart]

the obvious answer is tac axe then. when your weapon is weaker but still fun you'll love your memories of rashad & psword

[tall torrent]

oof, I can't join then

[tall torrent]

rashad (when it hits 1 tap breakpoints)

[distant plaza]

i kinda like the mkIII shock maul

[past stratus]

I'm swapping to the Rashad currently, bit tired of the PSword

[red fox]

just lost a hab dreyko run right at the extraction run cuz dummy in front can't push a burster

auric stg

sigh

cursed

[steep flower]

Just don’t get grabbed; dog in such situations is the formula of ‘good for less experienced, worse for more experienced’ type of a deal. Oversimplification tho

[steel veldt]

how often do I use slugs on Arby?

[steep flower]

As far as i watched him play hes alright but not amazing; many things could have been done better many times but thats after game watch

[hollow ibex]

well he's a much better player than me lol

[steel veldt]

also how much ammo does scavenger gives on average throughout a game?

or Ig survivalist

[inland orchid]

depends on how consistent you can kill them after the cooldown refreshes imo

since it aint oldie survivalist with zero downtime between it varies due to how fast/slow the squad deals with elites and specialists

that and weapon type, i find las weaponry to be less effective when tryna benefit from survivalist

since you're shooting more than one "ammo" per shot with those things

[steel veldt]

yeah

it's still the best aura, right?

[quiet valley]

You get ammo back based your your total reserves

[inland orchid]

i like it cuz i like ammomuling for gungryns

the "best" is def up to personal preference tho

[steel veldt]

kk

And again, combat shotgun, arby, slugs, how often do I use it? Assuming comabt shotgun is good

[inland orchid]

i thought it was 1% on elite/specialist kill with a 5 second cooldown

i dont be feeling that 1% as much with las weaponry than with anything involving bullets/bolter rounds

[red fox]

Look at this 300IQ Arbitrator

👍

[formal hamlet]

Is there a visual indicator to see how many dodges I get?

[steel veldt]

nope, mods

[spring spindle]

Best Blessings for boltgun?

[arctic rampart]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/280

Numeric UI also has one though, and I prefer that one

[inland orchid]

special ammo is pretty enjoyable to mess around with, combat shotty unlike the arbiter's special shotgun shells arent a limited amount so u can practically go only special ammo if u felt like it

[arctic rampart]

T.dmg (Flak) T.dmg (Maniac) Puncture / Surgical / Cavalcade Pinning Fire / Shattering Impact from the guide

Superiority Complex
Bring it Down!
One Motion
Tactical Reload ```

[inland orchid]

my personal preference is the fire shotgun shells, is nice to see an enemy brightened by searing flames

[spring spindle]

[quiet valley]

Shock trooper and any Las weapon built right = 0 ammo pickup games

[faint beacon]

Helbore with Surgical + Shocktrooper basically

[quiet valley]

Any las weapon tbh

Even Recon can go ammoless on H40

[inland orchid]

cool i dont use shock trooper tho

i prefer less energy based weaponry

[quiet valley]

Ok 👍

[inland orchid]

that would def explain my lack of rounds with them tho considering i dont be rocking the consume stam to get better shots while ADS

sounds like that goes hand and hand with shocktroop

[hollow ibex]

I’m bored

Maybe I’ll give deadshot laspis memes a go again

[tall torrent]

yes but u may not need it all the time

[half glade]

arbites are just much more offputing in how op they are. ogryns are slow, playing one is cumbersome, they have limitations in what targets they can effectively hit and at what distance often. And arbites is like ogryns with little to no downsides. Just ignore damage, run around one-shotting specialists and gunners, kill packs of armored elites with little effort

and the dog will all its associated excessive pointless tagging is the cherry on the top

[quiet valley]

The dog tag covering Focus Target is actually criminal

[atomic void]

ogrny is literally still the strongest

and more annoying

thse people were not playing with rumbler ogryns

[sudden cedar]

@half glade Rumbler Ogryns are very much what you describe. They just delete everything.

[normal bay]

I think it might be more to do with the speedrunning.

All the knife zealots must have swapped class

It sucks so much on vet

Trying to line up helbore shots while getting harassed by poxers

[tacit sonnet]

Ogryn is still better then arbites

But people only whine about arbites being strong

[arctic rampart]

That's because ogryn is a better team player

[normal bay]

Arbites are annoying, as much as they are good. They have vet ammo thievery and knife zealot speedrunning rolled into one class

[arctic rampart]

take the melee nodes on vet, and it won't suck so much

then again I don't hellbore.. I should try it with the buff

[sudden cedar]

They might, but it is also very much the player.

An ammo hungry veteran who can't control themselves will do the same on every class with ammunition, even psyker.

[normal bay]

It's not that I can't melee. It's that I have to turn around and deal with this conga line of little shits, since rooms aren't cleared properly

[sudden cedar]

Same goes for speedrunning.

[arctic rampart]

oh ok, well the way to annoy speed runners is to make them wait in the elevator gnashing their teeth while you are in coherency with the rest

or make sure you get every plasteel from every corner huehuehue. cause you know they are twitchy pimply faced youths

[sudden cedar]

idiots like this most likely exist in every age group

[formal hamlet]

Half of them are dead before you get to the lift.

[arctic rampart]

It's more fun to imagine them being pimply faced 15 year olds that can't sit still for one moment though

[formal hamlet]

"Teammate's down."
looks around to find him
"Oh, he's on the other side of the map by himself."

After agroing half the map, of course.

Thank god I don't run into these people in havocs.

[steel veldt]

that's me in heresy

[muted peak]

my first max weapon 🙂

[steel veldt]

I am really bad at Vet

not like that on Zealot

[sudden cedar]

When they go down they most likely remove themselves from the game anyway, so, not an issue.

[formal hamlet]

Yeah, they often do.

[sudden cedar]

Do we really want to dump Shredder on the Chain Axe?

[arctic rampart]

well you can make vet more melee to play similar to zealot. try weapon specialist keystone. vet's got real shit toughness regen other than voice of command, so it's pretty much untouchable or dead lul

[sudden cedar]

@steep flower As the local chain axe expert, what would you use as dump stat on the Chain Axe?

[steel veldt]

my friend gave me a build with focus fire

for combat shotgun

[past stratus]

I've never used Chaxe, does it have Brutal Momentum? Or any other momentum blessing?

[quiet valley]

It wishes it had BM

[past stratus]

the momentum shit feels mandatory these days, even if you're just doing auric you get walls of ogryn enemies

[steel veldt]

Also Vet has low toughness regen? Really?

I'd expect Psyker to have low

weird

[hollow ibex]

Yeah as in the conditions to proc toughness regen are shit

Very dependent on kills

[tall torrent]

Yea

Lowest of all classes

[steel veldt]

interesting

[past stratus]

interesting is definitely not a word I would use to describe it

lmao

[hollow ibex]

It’s a bit better these days with the catch a breath changes but still pretty shit

[gritty mural]

ogryn and arbites get toughness from existing compared to vet

[arctic rampart]

you get like 200 toughness on vet taking 2 +25 toughness points, 2 toughness curio, and 2-3 5%. with iron will and gold toughness its totally fine. out for blood or confirmed kill can top you off regularly if your VoC is down

[steel veldt]

But yeah I am tempted to uhhh not use combat shotgun? Idk how to use slugs

[sonic kayak]

Open a bulwark shield

[past stratus]

worse part isn't even the regen, toughness on Vet is ephemeral. A poxwalker swing might as well be a crusher overhead as far as our toughness goes. That shit disappears in a millisecond

[sonic kayak]

Or give a particularly firm handshake to a sniper

[past stratus]

taking toughness damage is barely a concept

[arctic rampart]

you gotta get real good at listening to audio queues and dodging but I think that's true for all classes anyway

[steel veldt]

meanwhile I listen to music while playing the game

[gritty mural]

I miss vets 200 tougness pre class overhaul lol

[arctic rampart]

you can do that spidey sense plugin if your audio is otherwise occupied. it replicates audio queues into visual

[gritty mural]

I would reach over 300 toughness with three curios

[past stratus]

it would be nice if we had just a little bit of toughness damage resistance, I don't mind vet being a squishy class but just a smidge of damage reduction would help so much

[arctic rampart]

I didnt play much beta/early but I remember using MK12 slow lasgun while being a worthlesss rat camo.

[steel veldt]

How much damage do slugs even do

?

in comparison to regulat shells

[grand perch]

check the weapon damage table

[hollow ibex]

more, and will reliably proc full bore

actual damage always depends on a bunch of different factors

[steel veldt]

that exists? Thanks scale friend

[grand perch]

inspect weapon, press E

[steel veldt]

in the Senori area?

[tame lodge]

Who's senori

Sefoni?

[steel veldt]

Sefoni

mb

[tame lodge]

No, you can inspect in your inventory

[steel veldt]

oooh

[tame lodge]

Yah
Inventory, select your weapon then on the top right there'll be the inspect button

[hollow ibex]

from a quick check, about 70% more damage baseline?

but in an actual game it'll be different ofc

[remote sonnet]

I almost never use the special shot, the recoil is too strong to get a quick follow up shot.

[steel veldt]

I tried to inspect weapn and my game crashed lol

[trim badger]

Close drill order + Iron will:

"Am I a joke to you"

[hollow ibex]

you're missing out

i always preload a special shot

[trim badger]

Combined those with confirmed kill and catch a breath and you're essentially very tanky to ranged, and very rarely have your toughness gone through by melee

[hollow ibex]

whenever there's downtime

[past stratus]

You are a better gamer than me and most Vets probably because "tanky" is definitely not how I would describe my vet experience

but then again, it seems like most of the discord is better than me so 😔

[trim badger]

Shout defenitely makes this skyrocket but even with no shout

Using those 4 talents together should be a lot more tanky

[steel veldt]

damn slug is nearly double damage, I should be spamming that shit

[hollow ibex]

i wouldn't bother doing consecutive slug shots in most cases

it's strong, but primary fire is also very strong

[half glade]

This is on the shovel. Why it's not at its max, with stat being at 80? Or is this max value is reached only at 100 (so, reserved for future)?

[hollow ibex]

yeah the max value displayed is 100

unless you use a mod

[half glade]

I see

[remote sonnet]

Relic of old time

[steel veldt]

Ye ye

primary being spammed into a horde or unarmored specials is dope

[drifting moon]

How's the best class doing today yall?

[honest quiver]

arbites? probably great i imagine

[calm shard]

I really feel like the "ogryns are slow" sayers don't play left tree ogryn enough

[shrewd flax]

what is the ultimate vet melee weapon? shovel or dueling sword?

[calm shard]

or y'know rumblergryn who is killing things from across the map

[calm shard]

power sword, and by a lot too

[shrewd flax]

why do you think so ?

better for horde clearing?

[sonic kayak]

It's good for everything

Single target, boss damage, horde clear

Without investment on the right bottom of the tree

[tidal mantle]

is there a plasma gun/power sword build?

i cant dig up anything in pins

[sonic kayak]

On my builds that forego right side, I usually use the PSword since it does not suffer at the slightest

Lack of Trench Fighter can ruin the fluidity of some weapons but not the PSword

[calm shard]

and elites

takes no build investment

[past stratus]

None of those take any special nodes so just get Shout, Survivalist and probably Focus target with all the other good nodes, like Tactical awareness

Focus target is also not mandatory, I saw a video of a dude going WS with the Plasma in H40 and he seemed to be doing just fine

[tall torrent]

Power sword VI

[shrewd flax]

is that good ?

[tall torrent]

No

Cleave targets dump
Carapace
Elite
Power cycler
Brutal momentum

[hot crag]

No sunder?

[tall torrent]

Sunder is good but I think rn BM pulls ahead more often

Sunder is mainly for cleaving & staggering groups of maulers and scab ragers

[hot crag]

I saw a video from that vet guy big dom he said like sunder more or less almost meet the breakpoint

[tall torrent]

Which breakpoint

[strange crow]

Youtube is not a good source for Darktide advice

[hot crag]

😂

[tall torrent]

If ur talking about crusher 2 tap

Yes u don’t need BM for that

[ember nest]

Whar abt heavy sword

[strange crow]

If you're only fighting hordes then yes sure

Anyting armored = big sad

[tall torrent]

What BM does is that it confirms way more kills per swing and that sorta fits the current game more

In havoc 1 sunder was better for staggering elite groups

[hot crag]

Yeah he said something like with or without brutal momentum u still need tot hits to kill a carapace

[tall torrent]

BM is not taken for that purpose

BM is taken so u confirm as many kills as possible as quickly as possible

[hot crag]

Yeah I definitely felt the horde clear with brutal

[tall torrent]

Situational pick

[ember nest]

I assume with helbore its fine

[tall torrent]

Eh

Idk

[hot crag]

But I hate the feeling of sword stuck if there's a camouflaged mauler in the middle 😂

[tall torrent]

I would only consider it with boltgun tbh

[ember nest]

This implies I'm using the boltgun on crushers

I dont want to do that lol

[tall torrent]

U said helbore and helbore is usually not made to shoot crushers either

[ember nest]

U 2 shot them

[tall torrent]

It’s not fast enough vs practical crusher wave scenarios

[ember nest]

I assume I'm not the only one dealing with them

But so far its been pretty smooth to just dome them twice

[shrewd flax]

weakspot kills also ignore mass, what does that even mean ?

means you can stagger even big carapce?

[tame lodge]

Ogryn? Very fine

[spring spindle]

Real

[proper delta]

in the time i got all other vet penances done i only got armorbane (krak kills on armor) to 253/500 lol

this penance sucks

[tame lodge]

Discriminate against all armor

Chuck em like you're Santa throwing candies at Christmas

[proper delta]

the crab walking penance and weapon specialist penances were such a drag

im 147 kraks away from finally being able to play vet

[surreal rune]

what difficulty did you farm on?

[past stratus]

Mortis Trial makes those penances way more bearable

you get to do funny builds with grenades

[tame lodge]

I should make funny grenade build but with Kraks

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

I haven't played Kraks in forever

[heavy rover]

twin blast kraks

[proper delta]

i just ran auric for everything besides crabwalk penance which i did mortis trials damnation on

ie killshot ready 2500 kills with 10 stacks of marksmans

extremely stupid, you can get it in 5 mortis trials if youre efficient

on damnation

is it worth it to run lethal prox with a grenadier build to get more multis per krak?

im so close to finally being able to play the game

[past stratus]

I respect you guys, I don't have the mental fortitude to grind penances. If I don't get them naturally, I don't get them at all

[proper delta]

it's either that or havoc with randoms 🙂

ive finished psyker and arbitres close to zealot and 1 away from vet

[ember nest]

I just held down the trigger into a crowd w/ a recon lasgun and got it pretty fast

[proper delta]

also works to just crouch and hold a corner with psword on mortiz

[ember nest]

Anything (anything) armored counts.

[proper delta]

you can get like600 per run

[steep flower]

Mobility

[proper delta]

yeah its just a grind lol f

[ember nest]

Not rlly

I played like 4 aurics on a krak build

I also ended up snagging one of the melee maelstroms

Which has a lot

Of armored dudes

And elites

So like I got a ton of kills from that

Throw a grenade and like 6 bulwarks explode

[safe raptor]

damn did both first try in one mission

i thought i would never get the no melee damage one lol

[ember nest]

Peak

[proper delta]

what are thee havoc builds

[ember nest]

That on overwatch one is probably the hardest

[proper delta]

nothing is pinned

for havoc

[unreal nova]

Do note the range increase isn't much and the kill radius is still kinda tiny.

[ember nest]

^

[unreal nova]

Most stuff just take chip damage.

[safe raptor]

yep i was like "oh man i'm never getting that one, am i?", i decided to just do the MESC penance at it seemed easy with a revolver on rolling steel, was pleasantly surprised i did the second one too

[muted peak]

what do you guys recommend for damnation

the gear I mean

[topaz pebble]

Whatever you want

[ember nest]

I think the only one I have left is weapons spec and I just like

Haven't been caring to do thay

Lol

[ember nest]

What have you not yet tried

When ur up to damnation just start unironically trying everything you have

[safe raptor]

i did damnation with grey gear so anything works

[ember nest]

See what you like or dont like

[muted peak]

I sometimes get absolutely shitted at

[ember nest]

Which weapon marks vibe w/ you

It happens

You'll get better

But still, try everything

[muted peak]

I pulled my weight in the first try and later nearly every game I couldn't even play

[safe raptor]

DS + plasma + VoC and you'll be fine

[muted peak]

I don't understand this game sometimes

[muted peak]

DS?

[ember nest]

This is the opposite of what I would tell someone on just damnation

Maybe havocs

But imo you stunt ppl by telling them the potentially nerfable stuff too early

[topaz pebble]

Power sword, double barrel, voice, weapon spec

[warm schooner]

rashad + revolver is easiest to train on and highly effective in auric

[muted peak]

double barrel? how can you even play that?

[warm schooner]

simple melee moveset so you can focus on other things

[ember nest]

Taxe jumpscare

[topaz pebble]

Its goated

[safe raptor]

plasma feels very powerful on lower difficulties tho, i'm not sure but i think it one shots a lot more stuff

[muted peak]

You have will of steel my friend

[proper delta]

its easiest with revolver but its a pain lol

[topaz pebble]

But mainly used to one shot ragers and proc weapon spec

Try it out, surprisingly good

[muted peak]

I can't put up with the amount I would have to reload I think

[ember nest]

Yes but I'm saying its not gonna teach them anything

[topaz pebble]

Weapon spec reloads for you

[muted peak]

weapons spec?

which one?

[topaz pebble]

The bottom right keystone

[proper delta]

do you use keystones for havoc*

[ember nest]

Sometimes

[topaz pebble]

Mainly weapon specialist

[proper delta]

every keystone has made me miserable grinding penances

weapons spec counting down from swap and not from shooting needs to be changed lol

[safe raptor]

hmm, maybe you're right, although both DS and plasma teaches you good positioning at some degree

[proper delta]

im penalized for having adhd

[muted peak]

guys

[safe raptor]

recon lasgun is very fun and strong

[muted peak]

what is DS?

[topaz pebble]

Dueling sword

[safe raptor]

dueling sword

[ember nest]

Duelng sword

D

[topaz pebble]

Specifically the mark 4

[muted peak]

💀

no way in hell I m touching that sword

[ember nest]

Whats the skull for

?

[ember nest]

Why

[muted peak]

I just

dont like it

[topaz pebble]

Real

[muted peak]

I dont know the reason

[proper delta]

DS is very smooth with the movement

[muted peak]

maybe singular focus

[ember nest]

Do you like combat knife

[muted peak]

NO

[ember nest]

Ur cooked

[muted peak]

absolute no

[safe raptor]

i run DS on 3 characters but i dont like the combat knife

[muted peak]

wait

I meant maybe I dont like the singular focus thing

I meant the reason

[ember nest]

I don't personally see them as much different

[muted peak]

didnt mean I liked singular focus specifically

[topaz pebble]

Just run power sword smile

[safe raptor]

it might just be vermintide related bias lol

[muted peak]

I actually was doing well with it untill now

[topaz pebble]

Mk6 PS is very good

Now if only I didn't lose power up on stagger

[muted peak]

Just had a mission where I had even heavy attack command not obeying me

most frustrating thing ever

[ember nest]

Wym

[safe raptor]

Demir have you just tried out DS once or twice or actually tried to play with it? it gets better after a few missions

[topaz pebble]

You use heavy attacks? Crazy

[muted peak]

Yep

I did

[surreal rune]

thats the bugged blessing with explosive radius?

[ember nest]

I don't think I have heavy attacked with ps in months outside of memeing at a trapper corpse

[muted peak]

Imagine you hold down Heavy attack and for no reason it cancels

and the fucking horde is in front of you

[normal bay]

It's not for no reason, you got hit

[proper delta]

idk if bugged but it does do that yeah

[ember nest]

You should be light attacking with ps anyways generally

Or push attack for armored dudes

[muted peak]

It happened like 10 times in one mission where I couldn't even find the attacker

maybe I had lag that time

[trim badger]

Duelling sword

Power sword enjoyers in shambles

[tropic notch]

Power sword

[muted peak]

chainaxe(imo)

very simple moveset

I m a simple monkey

[ember nest]

....which chaxe

[tropic notch]

Mk4

[unreal nova]

To be fair, that one's easy, just takes awhile.

[tropic notch]

The only good one

[muted peak]

both has fairly simple moveset

I like both

butmark 9 is better I think

[ember nest]

Yeh I just dont care to do it rn

[muted peak]

Heavy attack hates me

[ember nest]

Im helboring aaaugh

(Theres no keystones on this build)

[normal bay]

With these servers, who knows

[muted peak]

I swear if these servers run perfectly I would even play 10 fps damnation hordes

this game is a hidden gem among the rubble

[ember nest]

Huh

10fps

?

[muted peak]

yeah?

I get 15 fps when heresy hits the shit sometimes

so its not that uncommon for me

[ember nest]

You might need to turn down a lot of things

[unreal nova]

Not everyone can afford a monster.

[muted peak]

I run on ultra performance brother

[ember nest]

I ran this on a 2060 super

[muted peak]

what else can I even tone down?

[ember nest]

Wym a monster

[unreal nova]

Heck, even mid spec PCs can hit 10 FPS in H40.

[muted peak]

Mine is 1650

GTX

[ember nest]

Rip

Im on a 3060 ti rn but my main issue back in the day was

[normal bay]

Game is just broken, it drops to stupid low fps sometimes for me too. And I'm on console in performance mode. I can't do anything lol

[ember nest]

I had an hdd

[muted peak]

Maybe toning down resolution?

[unreal nova]

So, normal.

[muted peak]

I m thinking of that actually

I just wanna enjoy the game I dont care about the visuals

[unreal nova]

Will be harder to see things though.

[normal bay]

I cannot

[muted peak]

rip then brother

[unreal nova]

Oh, right, console.

Consoles have reduced settings.

[tropic notch]

Zzzzz ruthless strikes zzzzzzzz

[muted peak]

I'm willing to have that risk

I just wanna kill heretics

[tropic notch]

No tac axe

[trim badger]

not my fault it's the best option on duelling sword vet

[normal bay]

I await the PS clip someones about to post

[tropic notch]

No dbarrel

And the drooling sword!!!!!

[trim badger]

I'm using focus target not weapon specialist why would I go double barrel 😭

[tropic notch]

Cuz it’s cool

[trim badger]

You don't get to shame me for not being cool when they asked what the best weapon was >:(

[ember nest]

Me when Im in an answering the questions inaccurately competition and my opponents are darktide discord users

[tropic notch]

Cuz it easy and it does a lot of damage

[trim badger]

They asked for the best not the coolest!!!

[tropic notch]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goat-washed-my-goat-is-washed-washed-goat-your-goat-is-washed-mfw-my-goat-is-washed-gif-11435157539877774481

[unreal nova]

It's a reason AI upscaling of lower res leads to DLSS being blurry as dook at times from memory.

[muted peak]

☹️

[faint beacon]

I be lying for no fucking reason other than it funny

[muted peak]

Guess I'm stuck to play at heresy

at most

[ember nest]

Ham ton

[unreal nova]

I mean, you can always try it. See if you can deal with it.

[unreal nova]

I suggest maybe halving the res so it doesn't end awkward. It will be blurry though.

Or find out what the step down from your res is.

[muted peak]

Actually my first damnation went well, nothing went wrong surprisingly. But there are too many things that can go wrong

Also I have no skill 🙂

[unreal nova]

Because new breakpoints?

[muted peak]

breakpoint?

[unreal nova]

Things need more to 1 shot.

If you are chasing those.

[muted peak]

🤔

[trim badger]

(This DS doesn't have +25% carapace btw)

[muted peak]

I don't get wym

[normal bay]

I don't think my performance issues are even setting dependent. I can run an auric HISTG and be fine.

But I could run a normal old damnation and it feel like I'm walking through mud.

I assume it's a server thing