veteran-class

[elder vessel]

Maul is one dimensional, cutthroat is like 1.1 dimensional

[unreal nova]

Why yes, am sick of male mauls.

[red fox]

I feel like all the female Arbie voices aren't...enough?

[gleaming rose]

Istg they be breaking the sound barrier

[red fox]

they sound like they dont' wanna wake up their parents sleeping next door

[elder vessel]

They aren't different enough I think

[gleaming rose]

They are

The maul is mommy issues reincarnated

[tame lodge]

Fuck I forgot what I was doing on the psykhanium

[elder vessel]

*fucking boring

[gleaming rose]

the authoritarian is would break you car lights and pull out a edict

And then the other one is just normal

[red fox]

but they're not reallly loud

[gleaming rose]

She kinda just gives off the same vibes as the loose cannon

[red fox]

or passionate?

[gleaming rose]

Yeah you got a point there

some of the lines don’t hit

[unreal nova]

Could be better tbh. But okay enough.

[gleaming rose]

But the arbite to arbite lines are really good

[red fox]

like whne i use the "cheer" it's just

[unreal nova]

My ears every game.

[red fox]

for the lex

"ok"

[elder vessel]

be a warhammer game and the normal character is the most interesting

[red fox]

Delivered like mcdonalds drive through

[elder vessel]

crazy

[unreal nova]

Fatalist?

[gleaming rose]

Yeah

I like the fatalist cause they are the only arbite capable of having a sense of humour

[unreal nova]

I like like I like LC.

Basically most normal but still off, because 40k is grimderp.

[red fox]

what vet personalities do people like

[gleaming rose]

LC?

[unreal nova]

Also, LC gremlin energy.

Loose Cannon.

Specifically the fem.

[red fox]

I stuck to cadian cutthroat just because i think this person would be unbearable IRL and i kinda love that

[red fox]

it's been tempting

[gleaming rose]

Loose cannon and vet

I fr hate the cadian

Blud is so spineless

[red fox]

spineless how?

[elder vessel]

Dew it

Cutthroat uses the recon lasgun

I can tell

[gleaming rose]

Check his dialogue with the vet

[past stratus]

Cadian isn't spineless, he is annoying as fuck

[red fox]

thats kinda what i like about it

it's that ex military guy who won't shut up about his tours and brings it up in every conversation

[past stratus]

the Professional is just the most scary Veteran, I don't think a lot of people would want to get in a fight with him

[gleaming rose]

the cadian and the maul are my least favourite personalities

[red fox]

I feel like i haven't heard much of my arbie's lines, i went fem authortarian . but also cuzi haven't been playing that class

boring AF

unkillable rock

[gleaming rose]

MaNdATED EdiCtEd

[elder vessel]

weird way of saying maul

[gleaming rose]

I like the maul they got some sas

[elder vessel]

I think you got your personalities mixed

[past stratus]

from outside perspective, as someone that never played Arbites. I do think they don't talk as much as the other personalities or classes

[red fox]

is that it?

i know there was a banter bug at first

[past stratus]

they bark things at times about the lex and whatever but rarely any conversations

while if you have a zealot, vet and a psyker they won't stop yapping the whole match

[hollow ibex]

I love him

He’s so bitter and toxic

[red fox]

thats why i love it too

guy can't get over it

peaked in Cadia

[hollow ibex]

He really represents my feelings when I play the tenth match with a smyker

[past stratus]

I couldn't last a day when I tried it, too annoying

[hollow ibex]

“Pretend you’re soldiers”

[gleaming rose]

He does have a soft spot the

It is just snuffled in so much pure unfiltered cadian fan boying

[gleaming rose]

Who keeps yapping about the edicts

[elder vessel]

Maul

[gleaming rose]

Ok yeah the maul sucks

I think the only thing redeeming the cadian is he sometimes tries to helpful

And the maul is sometimes stupidly sassy but still annoying

[elder vessel]

maul has 1 joke

hes a gimmick

hes a background character pretending to be interesting

[past stratus]

Cadia this, Arbites that but what is your favorite Ogryn personality though?

mine is Bodyguard

[gleaming rose]

That’s like asking me who is my favorite son

[elder vessel]

BRAWLER MY SON

[gleaming rose]

I love the bully and authoritarian lines

[hollow ibex]

lol definitely does

[unreal nova]

NOT Batman.

[hollow ibex]

A bit of human under the Cadian

[gleaming rose]

I like how he tells the loose cannon to not be too ballsy bc that’s how he seen other gaurdsmen die

It gives him some depth

[unreal nova]

She's lucky though, right?

[hollow ibex]

yeah i think people don't give the character enough credit

on the surface, he's all rage and vitriol

but he genuinely does care or get along with some of the other personalities

esp ogryn

and while he hates almost everyone around him

there's nobody he hates more than himself

he's just like me, fr fr

[unreal nova]

He dumb TsunTsun.

[crisp oak]

Meanwhile female maul: no personality because has no intercharacter lines

Its been so long since I heard anything other than ping lines

[unreal nova]

Because likely broken.

Female fatalist calls reapers gunners as well.

[crisp oak]

Yeah

[crisp oak]

I dont even hear btl voicelines

Just grunts

[unreal nova]

The fact they charged money and then left on a month holiday...

[hollow ibex]

he's not really tsun

if he hates you, he'll let you know

if he likes you, he'll let you know

he's just an asshole to most

[unreal nova]

More the, frigid Ice type?

[hollow ibex]

too ragey for that

i just like the fact that all 3 vet personalities

are different incarnations of ptsd

befitting for the guard

[sonic kayak]

Professional: I miss hating the Guard
Loose Cannon: I hate missing the Guard
Cutthroat: I hate and miss the Guard

[safe kestrel]

Cadia vet talks like his faced is pressed against glass screaming at the help desk

[elfin knot]

i havent played in ages, can somebody give me a tldr of the best 3 primaries / secondaries for vet bc i dont wanna invest into a weapon only for it to be garbage at the very high difficulties

[hollow ibex]

melee: taxe, psword, rashad
ranged: recon las, plasma, bolter

[elfin knot]

thx what mark of the tac axe should i use, i heard VII is the best

[little path]

Not taxe

dueling sword

DS stylis still super stronk

[elfin knot]

isnt that going to eat a nerf sometime in the near future

[little path]

unlikelyt

they've stated they want to focus on buffing bad weapons first before making nerfs

also arguably the agripinaa shotgun now is one of the top vet weapons

[safe kestrel]

Can’t wait for when it does so zealot have to learn how to play 🤡

[little path]

Can't wait for the nerf so zealots will die and leave even sooner

[hollow ibex]

VII

DS will get nerfed

and it's a horrible weapon to learn the game with

[little path]

^no proof that it will any time soon

[safe kestrel]

It’s just not necessary is what I’m coming to find out

[hollow ibex]

presumably later this year but who knows

[little path]

but also yes if you want to learn how to play the game don't use DS

[safe kestrel]

If everyone but he ogryn is running dueling, it makes sense in that way

[little path]

you can just slap on the agile blessing and never stop dodging

[elfin knot]

what perks/blessings are recommended on the taxe and how should i use it

[hollow ibex]

typically brumentum + headtaker, unarmored + carapace

but the perks are fairly flexible

single target combo is light spam

horde clear is H + PA or H + L

[hollow ibex]

^ check pins, HOTE guide

[elfin knot]

thanks, i havent played since 2023 and idfk what the meta is any more

[hollow ibex]

though the taxe section is slightly out of date

since taxes got buffed massively

[little path]

Meta is ogryn pressing lmb for 30 minutes

[hollow ibex]

lmb and w*

[little path]

also F

on cooldown

[hollow ibex]

but not to worry, rest assured

vet is still a top 5 class

[little path]

[elfin knot]

im probably going to main dudge jredd eventually anywho because robo doge is funny

[safe kestrel]

Going to message fatshark CEO directly to get fumbler removed from gaym

[little path]

arbitrator

or as like to abbreviate to

"trator"

the trator is pretty powerful

[safe kestrel]

Just get out

[little path]

EZ to play but very limited to weapon variety

[safe kestrel]

Dog? We have dog at home. (Points at Cadia vet)

[little path]

man I sure do love hearing about cadia every 4.76 micro seconds (The length of time a cadian sleeps per night) from the vet

thank you games workshop for reducing the imperial guard from a massive multicultural warmachine to cadia cadia cadia cadia cadia cadia cadia cadia cadia cadia cadia cadia cadia cadia cadia cadia Kriegers

[safe kestrel]

Hello? Who barks all night?

Cadia vet

As a trade of I guess they gave him the best VoC lines besides PUT THE KARKIN BOOT IN

[hollow ibex]

yeah his voc lines go hard

[elfin knot]

i mean, i do want to play veteran, but i just feel like a glorified dispenser who gives ammo and gold toughness and nothing else

[hollow ibex]

i FUCKING hate how campaign missions are baked into QP

[little path]

I tried using the rashad

feels awful

[tame lodge]

Gotta get that trench drill

[little path]

I just wanna slap it onto any build man

It might also be because it's at 17% mobility

[tame lodge]

You still leveling it up?

[safe kestrel]

When you get up in havocs you’ll see why both those things are more appreciated for skill and use, and weapon versatility tbh

[little path]

Ye

I've stopped playing havoc so I'm just running off meta builds now

[tame lodge]

Ok yeah you will need all those stats maxed asap

And the brutal momentum blessing

[little path]

why asap

are they gonna balance the game by taking out all weapons that isn't the knife?

[tame lodge]

Oh no

Rashad is very very reliant on the min max stats

[little path]

aight

I guess it's just the mobility stat

[tame lodge]

It's the difference between god like axe and trash can worthy axe

[little path]

it feels like my dodges are done with an extra 80 pounds attached

[barren girder]

is it generally worth taking the +1 nade in most builds?

[little path]

no

[barren girder]

or only for nade-focused vet

[little path]

wdym nade focused

[barren girder]

like, the whole nade vet build

bolt pistol with lethal proximity then something with uncanny strike

[little path]

uuuh

if you're trying to do a build where you deliberately take all grenade talents

then yeah

you would also grab that grenade talent

If you mean just a generic shout vet build

but you're using uncanny and lethal from bistol and melee weapon

then no, +1 nade isn't worth it

[barren girder]

gotcha

yea i was just wondering the value of taking a point out of my helbore and db shotgun WS builds to grab it

probs not

ty

[red fox]

sometimes i just grab it cuz the vet build down below is so cluttered with crap you cant' reach it all

so i'll just grab a talent near the top instead

[unreal nova]

I mean, what do you expect from a veteran?

[marble ocean]

If Chadians loved their planet so much they should have exploded with it

There's so many more interesting regiments

Savlar chem dogs, mordian iron guard, tallaran desert raiders, valhallan ice warriors, vostroyan firstborn, elysian drop troopers just on on top of my head

[unreal nova]

Rather more generic, so you can play dress up.

[marble ocean]

Oh and one of my favourites Harakoni warhawks

[marble ocean]

Yeah, cadians as generic as it can get

[unreal nova]

You can be whatever you want... $18.

[unreal nova]

Not when they keep going on about Cadia.

Terra is one thing.

[marble ocean]

Whining about Cadia already become generic

[unreal nova]

The corpse on the metal loo is another.

[marble ocean]

For 40k

[unreal nova]

But Cadia this Cadia that... garh.

[little path]

Cadia was supposed to be a "true generic"

and that WAS the flavour

[marble ocean]

Should have gathered them into big ass penal legion and deploy into asshole of terror for failing their prescious Cadia

[little path]

all other guard regiments wear the armor but they were the ones you thought of when the guard are cowardly, easly retreat

disorganized, lack supplies, bad leadership etcf

[marble ocean]

Worst looking armor too

[little path]

cadia was supposed to be the military with hyper discipline, everything is tracked

uniforms are all pressed, cleaned, everyone is fulled dressed in uniform

the men and women of the imperium who would die charging a daemon than ever dare retreat

[marble ocean]

That Krieger's

[little path]

and cadians

cadians were a super specific faction of the guard

like the elysions, kriergers, catachan etc

but overtime ever non special guard regiment has become cadian

[marble ocean]

Cuz it easier to draw and make em

[little path]

pretty much

[marble ocean]

Not much of collective personality also helps

[little path]

The best way to describe how cadians were different

is that the cadians could never surpass the bare standard

because the cadians are the standard

and every other regiment (not the named special ones) strived to be as organized and disciplined, which they couldn't because they were all grabbed from tithes and penal colonies

[unreal nova]

Or they could and became something better.

[little path]

I can't think of any "standard" regiment that isn't cadians off the top of my head

[sonic wedge]

Karskin

[little path]

kasrkin are cadian elites

[sonic wedge]

ah shoot

[marble ocean]

Oh and there's that regiment which made me say "You sure that's not heretics?" Athonian Tunnel Rats

[scenic vapor]

Valhallan ice warriors are kinda normal just cold

[marble ocean]

There's next to nothing about them(tunnel rats)

Valhallans ye, i remember they good against orcs?

[scenic vapor]

basically a panel legion that like looting but are allowed to ba an actual regiment bcs thay are very good at killing and very cheap

[marble ocean]

So like chem gods

[little path]

Oh, I remember a "normal regiment" that's named

the faeburn vanquishers

With a name like Faeburn you'd think they're good at fighting elder or something

nah their entire gimmick is they just like to pretend to be cadians

[scenic vapor]

No i fucekd up. I saw the picture and went ah yes surely a chem dog

[marble ocean]

I know there's a regiment called Lucifer Blacks

[scenic vapor]

ye but thats the elite of the elites

[marble ocean]

Ew

[little path]

Their entire regiment exists just to say "Yeah the cadians went out and made everyone else cadian"

[unreal nova]

To be fair, if it keeps them busy as well...

[marble ocean]

Jopall Indentured Squadrons

[little path]

I love those guys

[marble ocean]

Aside from being good snipers, they pretty standard

[little path]

Fuck ugly uniforms

[scenic vapor]

true

[unreal nova]

Or just elvish looking fellahs who are pyromaniacs.

[little path]

and instead of being indentured to the emperor

they're literally in financial debt and earn money

resulting in every other regiment hating them because they see the jopall as cowards

[scenic vapor]

oh yeah i remember them

[little path]

when really it's because they don't wanna die and each bullet literally comes out of their wages

so they need to become amazing marksman to save money

[unreal nova]

That looks like pajamas.

[little path]

Y E S

They're so ugly

I love them

[scenic vapor]

the Moebian's were pretty normal before nurgle

[unreal nova]

You cannot tell me they aren't wearing adult pajamas.

Because if you replace the dots with flowers and the green with blue, pretty sure I have a set of pjs like that.

[scenic vapor]

to broke to afford a decent uniform

[marble ocean]

Also uugh Roane deepers?

In terms of looks at least they standart af

[unreal nova]

True.

[little path]

yooo

is that the US ww2 helmet?

goofy

[marble ocean]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Roane_Deepers

[scenic vapor]

wait there were the ones based on ww2 austalians

[grand perch]

brodie helmet, that

british

[scenic vapor]

how are thay called thay are normal

[little path]

o

yoooo is that the bri'ish ww2 helmet?

goofy

[marble ocean]

The Deepers have a reputation for being lazy and somewhat lackadaisical or laid-back in their approach to warfare and training. Their reputation as a regiment is somewhat middling to say the least.

Poorly equipped too

Hence the helmet

And another forgotten regiment Dieprian Mountain Men

[little path]

bruh that is straight up a frenchman

[marble ocean]

I wouldn't believe that pic form wh40k

[safe kestrel]

I wonder if warhammer is ever going to go back to making a big deal out of popularizing normal regiments and giving them some more fan service or it’s gonna be slopified with their market strategy changes now

[placid shoal]

What weapon specialist combos do yall like, excluding ds and plasma

[little path]

Knife shotgun

[unreal nova]

Bistol+Knoife.

Though I 'nadier primarily.

[little path]

chain sword, pistol of any kind

[marble ocean]

Lasgun and chainsword

[placid shoal]

I've been meaning to give a Bristol name build a go

[scenic vapor]

heavy sword dubblebarrel

[sonic wedge]

This regiment is epic

[little path]

That ain't a regiment

technically

[marble ocean]

Well there's always Maccabian Janissaries

[unreal nova]

Looks like reject SM.

[placid shoal]

I've been enjoying tac axe dB myself

[sonic wedge]

Its Lucifer Blacks

[sonic wedge]

They are a regiment during the unification wars

[safe kestrel]

Yo I’m glad you posted this one it’s the one on my mind. What’s the regiment name again?

[little path]

that's a tempestus scion

[marble ocean]

Maccabian Janissaries

[scenic vapor]

thay do be cool

[little path]

There's no official art of the lucifer blacks

[sonic wedge]

its the closest one for their description

[marble ocean]

If cool looking regiment there's also Vitrian Dragoons

[marble ocean]

Eeeeey Praetorian Guard

[scenic vapor]

hell yeah

[little path]

Love the true space british

They even use flintlock lasguns

[unreal nova]

Looks like medieval soldiers with guns.

[little path]

They're the british during the time they invaded africa

uuuh

[scenic vapor]

more like british colonizers

[little path]

maybe that has some bad implications about their main enemies being orks

[marble ocean]

Nah

It's just fiction

[safe kestrel]

Yes that’s my favorite genre of 40k soldiers

[unreal nova]

Probably the same style still, but still funni.

[little path]

God I miss shit like this

[scenic vapor]

if u want someone to fight orks u gotta get the armageddon ork hunters

[little path]

all the weird and goofy but also absolutely kick ass weirdo regiments

[unreal nova]

Don't think too much.

[marble ocean]

Valhallans and Catachans? should work too

[safe kestrel]

*British educators 😏

[unreal nova]

They have enough teeth to buy out an army of freebooters.

[scenic vapor]

Id rather call Catachans for the nids

[little path]

Just a reminder that games workshop wants us to take chaos seriously

but the daemons failed to invade catachan

because they died to plants

[marble ocean]

Lmao

[unreal nova]

Nobody but crazies want to go near there.

[little path]

Literal heaven for the orks and nids and humans

[scenic vapor]

40k universe is so silly it loops around to beeing awesome

[little path]

baby chaos too scared to get their boots dirty in the mud 🥹

[sonic wedge]

Catachan regiment is rambo on crack x10

[safe kestrel]

So people make opposing claims. Is it “catachan double tap” or “kasrkin double tap” said by vet? I’m hearing catachan tbh

[sonic wedge]

Catachan double tap I think

[marble ocean]

Attillan rough riders

[safe kestrel]

It’s all about the look

[little path]

Literally just the monghols in space

them and the white scars

[marble ocean]

Ye

[safe kestrel]

Emperor’s children be like

https://tenor.com/view/guitar-mad-max-fury-road-electric-guitar-rocking-out-jamming-gif-3389097859580245812

[unreal nova]

On Catachan, if you don't double tap, you risk a fakeout and then dying. Right?

[grand perch]

I would kill for their hat and coat

[safe kestrel]

I think so?

[grand perch]

KILL YOU HEAR

[scenic vapor]

i want to see them and withe scars together

[unreal nova]

Coat yes, hat no.

[sonic wedge]

Kaledon Hunters

[safe kestrel]

The hood?! Smh. Son, what u know about that death world life?

[sonic wedge]

Literal space tribes

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/groundskeeper-willie-you-just-made-an-enemy-for-life-the-simpsons-damn-scots-nemesis-gif-23206257

[scenic vapor]

both make sense

[unreal nova]

Look, I like coats. Hats are more specific.

[safe kestrel]

Literally nothing is stopping you from living that wardrobe life

These materials are available on Terra. RIGHT NOW

[marble ocean]

Asgardian Rangers

[scenic vapor]

YOUR GONNA WEAR YOUR REGIMENT'S UNIFORM PROUDLY GUARDSMAN! NO SWITCHING.

[unreal nova]

Money though.

[marble ocean]

Ventrillian Nobles

I want that in game

[safe kestrel]

Going into work dressed like an Attilan. Telling your boss it’s your culture

[safe kestrel]

Yea the ww1 trench fighter looks is wore the fuck out

[scenic vapor]

finreht highlanders

[formal hamlet]

Ya'll wishing they get all these creative cosmetics when in reality you will get another gun skin that's just a slightly different shade of red.

[marble ocean]

With tiny skull somewhere

[scenic vapor]

that will be 900 equilas

[formal hamlet]

Or slightly better, you get the skin but you were taking a break from the game and it's been 2 years since with no rerun.

[marble ocean]

Nuh uh 1100 dont forget the skull

[scenic vapor]

a yes indeed

[marble ocean]

That's sounds oddly specific

[formal hamlet]

I hear people have to wait a very long time for some cosmetics to cycle back again.

[marble ocean]

Or never

[sonic wedge]

with a stamp of scrolls

[formal hamlet]

I wonder how much of this is Fatshark and how much is some sorta licencing limitation.

[marble ocean]

Both but mostly fatshark

[safe kestrel]

B-but this yt influencer said it’s on point!

[scenic vapor]

some cosmetics are lost archeotech at this point

[marble ocean]

Like ogryn leopard pants?

[formal hamlet]

I don't know much about human lore in 40k but I'm pretty sure we found a bunch of lost primarchs before people got their cosmetic re-runs.

[marble ocean]

2 there's 2 lost primarchs

[formal hamlet]

But then again maybe that primarch lore is very old, I'm out of the loop.

Was the ultramarines guy one they found again?

Gully Man.

[marble ocean]

Essentially there was 21 primarchs. 2 were expunged from all records. 2 were twins pretending to be one

[marble ocean]

Rawbutt Girlyman.

[formal hamlet]

Which ones were the twins? That sounds pretty cool.

[marble ocean]

And Lion woke up too

[scenic vapor]

robot girlyman?

[marble ocean]

Hydra dominatus

Alpha legion

Traitors?

[formal hamlet]

Gully Man and Lionel Messi.

[marble ocean]

"I am the spy" legion

[scenic vapor]

wonder if the Khan also found an elf gf since hes in webwey

[marble ocean]

Korvus went full emoboy, Khan busy banging Drukhari in webway. Russ eating yellow snow somewhere

[scenic vapor]

Dorn is beeing unarmed somewhere and the rest is for sure dead

[formal hamlet]

I have no idea what's going on in Darktide lore mostly, in my head cannon I'm rushing through missions to get to a USB-C charger while I use a power sword on power saving mode.

[marble ocean]

I read somewhere he wen full "STELTF" and there unusually large Custodes on terra

[marble ocean]

Nurgle cult on some hive-world in the ass-crack of the galaxy

[formal hamlet]

The pestilent vibes did make me guess it was nurgle related.

Basically the one thing I know about nurgle.

[marble ocean]

Not really important in big picture

[marble ocean]

Hes neet neckbeard, loves family, plagues and rot. Has Aeldari Milf goddess locked up in his garden (basement )

[formal hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-always-room-for-family-family-first-family-is-important-theres-always-time-for-family-household-gif-16055741

A family man eh, sounds like he has some positives.

[marble ocean]

Will give his follower hyper-Aids

[halcyon sigil]

the most significance darktide has rn on the greater galaxy is that the tithe aint being paid and people are starting to get pissy about it

[marble ocean]

Ye that's Why Arbiters showed up

[formal hamlet]

Death and taxes and all that I guess.

[marble ocean]

Screaming "where's my money Nurglinsky?!"

[unreal nova]

You mean a red gun that looks like the basic red gun but things missing.

[formal hamlet]

Are we secretly Orcs with all these red guns.

I swear there was a whole thing about them believing red makes things go faster.

[unreal nova]

Naw, Zealot's a Khornate.

[marble ocean]

It's more like said guns are given by Mechanicus. And they love red just as much as Orkz

[formal hamlet]

Oh true, Mechanicus do seem to love red as well.

[marble ocean]

But not as much as toasters

[halcyon sigil]

red toasters

[grand perch]

Nah they're too fast

[safe kestrel]

Be the WAHHH you want to see in the world

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/waluigi-waluigi-meme-waluigi-approves-gif-7620240877240124449

[little path]

fan theory is rogal dorn will come back as a primarch dreadnought or some shit

which basically just sounds like a knight or a titan

My theory is that he will literally become the praetorian of terra by having his body plugged directly into the imperial palace and he can freely control all defenses and organize all defenders just by thinking

mirroring the emperor's condition on the golden throne as rogal dorn is by far the most "loyal" son

[sudden cedar]

Sure.

[little path]

The twins are Alpharius and Omegon
Their Legion is the Alpha Legion
Their entire premise is they're the CIA, FBI, Illuminati, MI6, shadow government, KGB and secret police all at the same time
They make super convoluted plans and every bit of info on the two primarchs is either entirely false or has hints of truth obfuscated with misinformation
Their current status is they're mostly traitors. It's possible that small groups of them are loyalists pretending to be traitors or they're all entirely traitor. One of the twins is dead (we don't know which but most likely omegon) and the other is currently missing with his whereabouts not known to either the imperium or to chaos

[safe kestrel]

Epic storyline

Maybe he comes back non-chaos after all?

[little path]

unlikely we'll ever find out until like

2060

when gw is forced to slowly move the story line until finally they need to do something with the twins

[unreal nova]

So most of us in the grave by then?

[safe kestrel]

On your death bed asking your kids the status of the 40k campaign

[unreal nova]

Tell me, did a Living Saint xxx a Farseer yet?

Heh.

[safe kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/sup-girl-eyebrows-gif-25755293

[unreal nova]

In canon.

[little path]

on your deathbed, you reach out your wisened but aged hands out, searching for the hand of your grandchild

someone grasps your hand, you're not sure who anymore, your eyes don't work well enough and haven't for at least 4 years

you've been almost ineligible for since you were bedridden in the hospital, people can barely understand you and it breaks your heart that your requests fall on deaf ears

but for the last time in your life, you truly put yourself into one final task

you whisper out to whoever is listening "what is happening in warhammer?"

"The chaos tau have taken over most of the western fringe, the Tyranid diplomats have seduced most of the necron hordes, the Eldar have gone extinct but eldar human hybrids exist and hold high positions in imperial nobility and finally the orks ate tzeentch"

[crimson pebble]

right

[unreal nova]

WTF? FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE SEQUENCE. I need to raged about it before I pass... Where phone?

[fringe pelican]

Orks win no matter what

[scenic vapor]

Man ill need to get biochemical rejuvenation treatment to get to know.

[fringe pelican]

You will be a servitor for amazon by then

[scenic vapor]

yeah like we all

[fringe pelican]

Nah ill be a servo skull

[scenic vapor]

cool

[sonic wedge]

why do I get the feeling that we may get genestealers as our next enemies

[unreal nova]

We playing DeathHulk now.

4 rejects, 1 drifting hulk.

[sonic wedge]

game still buuggy

[fathom shoal]

in stuck at on overwatch penance can anyone give me a reccomendation

[long dove]

What's a good infantry autogun build?

[long dove]

That's the one for not taking melee damage right?

[scenic vapor]

go malice with shout, preferably fast meele weapon and short mission stay back watch out for strugglers

thats kinda it

[long dove]

Or

Get a friend. Private lobby. Malice. Jump off level, die, and don't get revived. Friend completes mission, you get penance.

[unreal nova]

Take field improv if you go latter.

You'll be in rescue and extra 'nades always nice if they are running oggy.

[scenic vapor]

ye if u want it badly u can do that

[long dove]

Or just lazy and can't be bothered

[scenic vapor]

true

[crimson pebble]

they probably fixed this when they changed it for true survivor and auric storm survivor

[long dove]

I still need to grab a decent autogun build

[long dove]

Nope

[unreal nova]

Not fixed.

Hardest part is asking someone for it.

I don't trust myself to solo tbh.

Path will usually do it if he's on, but he's on holiday atm.

[fringe pelican]

I did it on rolling steel with a friend

I used invisibility myself

[unreal nova]

I just gremlined shout vet on melee stabstab. During the more oggy spam.

[scenic vapor]

I got it on Consignment Yard from what i remember with whout

[unreal nova]

0 damage taken run, yes yes.

[ionic trail]

yes-yes!!

[scenic vapor]

rat people

[fringe pelican]

I got so much penances so fast with vet then zealot took me so long with some lol

[unreal nova]

You are now on the list of ppl getting 8 shots from my Bistol.

There's 4 people on it atm.

They know who they are.

[scenic vapor]

I know those games Im a commisar myself after all

[fringe pelican]

Wheres your red sash

[scenic vapor]

No mercy for cowards
All the mercy for ogryns

[unreal nova]

I understand fear, but fear will lead to a guaranteed death. Unless you are that useless karking commissar who karking pissed himself and karked to karking Nurgle before the guard ever did.

[scenic vapor]

Im finishing my commissar cosplay so on my head. Ill think about streaming havoc 40 in full commissar outfit

[grand perch]

I hope one is me now that we are eternal enemies

[unreal nova]

I stole his hat before.

[scenic vapor]

misht need a boltpistol bor it tho or a chainsword

[unreal nova]

No. Not yet.

[fringe pelican]

Nice, id main vet if they could have a proper commi outfit like dukane

Big sucker for those fellas

[unreal nova]

This list is very specific.

[fringe pelican]

100%

At least a saber/dueling sword

[unreal nova]

@ionic trail knows about it. He is on it after all.

[unreal nova]

Knoife+Bistol.

[ionic trail]

https://tenor.com/view/asgore-run-over-triki-troy-deltarune-gif-17995477417765303444

[scenic vapor]

Lead by fear and example for karking sake.

A good commissar needs to be able to do everything he expects from his men

[unreal nova]

Like I said, we shot him because he karked up. I stole his hat before it. Karker didn't deserve it anyway.

[scenic vapor]

Well then karkers deserved it

[ionic trail]

reading this in the loose cannon's voice is peak

[scenic vapor]

vet annual meeting

[ionic trail]

Alright, so.. welcome everybody to the meeting of the Vets.

As you know, we do this meeting every single month to make sure we agree on things. So let's get started...

[unreal nova]

But this might be why we are on a list, if not straight up MIA. Then again, don't care anymore.

[unreal nova]

Naw, Path isn't here.

[scenic vapor]

I like my rejects and thay u a good karging job when it comes to reducing the heretic population.

[unreal nova]

I just like showing up and stuff. Morale boost and all.

[scenic vapor]

indeed it is

None gets a commissar as well as another commissar

well ill better go do some assignments hope we meet again over amasek preferably

[unreal nova]

But I'm not one. The coat's a trade from an Inquisitor who decided to just go MIA to be honest. Like I said, was just a field medic, now... I don't really know. But hey, if you want some fine wines, I can get you some. @final crystal keeps asking for all the finer amasec though, and I'm not sure if you are interested in the more exotic stuff.

[fringe pelican]

Never gonna happen

[grand perch]

Wdym vets are always in agreement

For example everyone agrees that field improv is 100% useless

[scenic vapor]

A medic? I suppose that demands even more respect. So much respect I am even willing to forget about the whole wearing an inquisitorial coat without beeing one. And yes amasec should suffice as long as its a karking good one.

[unreal nova]

Are you trying to get on the list for the wrong reason?

[unreal nova]

Only the best, knowing my sources. Only gets better every season, from what I heard.

[ionic trail]

i only just discovered how cracked using manstopper and zarona is on hordes
hot damn

nice.

[grand perch]

||actually I think it's only 90% useless||

[ionic trail]

with marksmans focus this could actually be insanely fucking good even if it's just interwoven with the special shot now and then so that when a special comes around

you just blast them apart with the zarona's crazy finesse damage

but it would be prohibitively expensive ammo wise...

... This could work.

[unreal nova]

So list is 5 ppl, but one is on there for the wrong reason.

[scenic vapor]

Not glad to be on the list ma'm

knowing its a medics one

[pallid jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663756150709420034/1381717006503641199/T3.mp4?ex=687b497d&is=6879f7fd&hm=ca2c792dc21b069f5b74f1069a8f8eb2984e21a2b272dfa4a602478942952eee&

[carmine zealot]

A week of using Relic Blade makes me desire similar mechanics for the regular Power Sword. Constant charging up is annoying.

[sinful cave]

is this like

a secret build?

or is this guy trolling in my havoc lobby?

no keystone??

[ionic trail]

??? what the kark

my first thought is maybe they're using a knife or something???

[sinful cave]

havoc 30 bro 🥀

[ionic trail]

-# were they?

[sinful cave]

they where using a knife

technically

but also they did nothing but hold lmb on the recon lasgun the entire mission

only did like

350k by the end?

[unreal nova]

It's a list of ppl calling me a rat/skaven. (I am very clearly a catgirl if anything.)

[carmine zealot]

No Onslaught for Recon Lasgun?

[sinful cave]

for anyone curious

me and my m8 where just losing it at the fact he wasnt taking out any specials despite being theonly vet on the team

2 busy shooting poxwalkers

[unreal nova]

(Don't take it too seriously, tbh.)

[grand perch]

That's sort of a trap anyway

[ionic trail]

wound

[scenic vapor]

the yes-yes allegations are hard to beat huh?

[ionic trail]

as an honorary recon main we do not claim this one

[sinful cave]

i dont play vet at all so idk what the tech is but like wounds? sprint efficiency? no keystone?

what

[ionic trail]

this guy is an enigma to me

[steep flower]

Do i need to get You out of my yard? Do not force me

[ionic trail]

they're "built right" but then other parts aren't just a few steps down the stairs, it's a full tumble

[scenic vapor]

(i know just joking around)

[ionic trail]

like their recon is set up to do critting and infernus burn stacking, it's the medium class which can still make infernus work

[grand perch]

No keystone recon is very normal, but there's some bad choices in the mix anyway

[unreal nova]

Basically, and @steep flower and @sudden cedar aren't helping. >_>

[ionic trail]

but then the knife is built for backstabs...? they strangely path into desperado for the knife, which makes sense, but then you said they literally don't use it

what liminal said

[steep flower]

Thats a guyvwho does not know better

[ionic trail]

usually no keystone recon is because they're taking onslaught

[sinful cave]

crazy

i dont want 2 shame like more casual players but it just drives me nuts like why are you in my havoc lobbies man?

[ionic trail]

yeah if you had gotten a recon vet who was using it properly at least 50% of your specials would've melted

it's like crack in the shape of a gun

[sinful cave]

we ping a bomber and its alive for another 10 seconds before i say fuck it and bounce a box of grenades off its chin

[unreal nova]

3 toughness, 2 toughness 1 stam, 2 toughness 1 hp or 1 stam 1 toughness 1 hp.

[steep flower]

Nah it is alright

[ionic trail]

oof

[grand perch]

Ranged weak spot damage on recon is such a nothing burger, even more than it already is

[steep flower]

We are always ready to help…

Not

[ionic trail]

as a vet who sweats a little too hard even on non-vet classes about smiting specials this pains me

[steep flower]

Melee tho

[ionic trail]

i have a particular hatred for bombers

[grand perch]

10% weak spot damage on a gun with a finesse modifier of like 1.3

[grand perch]

No no

[unreal nova]

(But yeah, it's a joke. Though @grand perch seems to just want to be on it because something about rivals because fashion.)

[grand perch]

Look at his talents

He skipped precision strikes

[steep flower]

I did… its oof

[grand perch]

He has ranged weak spot on recon itself

[unreal nova]

You two are terrible at times.

[ionic trail]

this would make me want to play my recon build if it weren't for the fact im currently knee deep in testing out combat shotty builds that are stuck together with duct tape and dreams

[carmine zealot]

Same. I always take a sniping weapon even when playing other classes to get rid of specials.

[steep flower]

Thank you you flatter me and that one boi yesterday who called me ‘dipshit’ (he do be right tho )

[scenic vapor]

The vets decided this guy is officially trolling with his build

luv me some dead specials especially trappers

[steep flower]

Or better yet; does not know better

[scenic vapor]

yeah probably

[trail night]

Can you elaborate on this a bit more? Finesse? Im still learning

[ionic trail]

i like to think horde-spraying recon vets are simply a pre-evolution of full recon mains

[steep flower]

I like trapper gfs netting me across the room

[ionic trail]

it's not optimal, but this guy's got half the spirit

... and spraying a horde down with one is undeniably satisfying...

[scenic vapor]

disgusting and heretical

[ionic trail]

until you realize there's another 50% of the horde left and you're at 20% ammo

[unreal nova]

You sure have some weird kinks papa...

[steep flower]

Thats why i like you

Otherwise we would be sworn enemies

[grand perch]

Finesse is the bonus damage you do on crits and weak spot hits. Recon gets about 30% extra damage on hitting weak spots.
Now, the 10% ranged weak spot damage on this vets recon gun is added multiplicatively, meaning he gets a shitty 3% extra damage out of it

[unreal nova]

I mean, half the server seems to think that way because they reeeeeeeeeeee at heretics so much.

[trail night]

Thank you for explaining~

[ember nest]

Aye but 2 3s better than 1 3 innit

3 3 per cent

[mystic hull]

Blaze away or Gets hot on Plasma gun?

[ember nest]

Boffum' innit

[carmine zealot]

Is 10 percent weak spot damage ever worth it?

[unreal nova]

Nope.

[mystic hull]

im running rising heat and gets hot but I see more builds running Blaze away

[unreal nova]

Just take flak, maniac or crits. Recon, right?

Or unyielding if you are building to shred bosses.

[scenic vapor]

id go with gets hot

[carmine zealot]

Mine is flak + crit i think.

[unreal nova]

This is fine.

[carmine zealot]

Would be maniac if not for shock trooper.

[unreal nova]

I know. Is why I said is fine.

[carmine zealot]

Recon is decent, but I can't stand bullpup weapons in games.

Tried Helbore, but with 300 ping it's unusable.

[thick kestrel]

I think part of that is that few games really implement the advantages of a bullpup, it's a lot of effort to model weapon length having an impact retroactively and unless you're going for a hyper-real vibe it often feels out of place.

[carmine zealot]

iLas kicks too much for repeated weak spot shooting.

[thick kestrel]

I suppose the closest darktide could provide would be improved handling charactaristics for stowing/equipping

[carmine zealot]

The problem I have is that due to reusing firing animations most bullpup 3D models are just as long as conventional layouts.

It's just a standard assault rifle with the magazine well shifted to the butt, leaving an awkward gap between the trigger guard and the forearm.

Rather than a proper bullpup.

[thick kestrel]

aye, again it's mechanical limitations within the games themselves

work vs output essentially

[carmine zealot]

For example the Liberator in HD2 is mostly okay, but the Tenderizer is way too long.

[tame lodge]

Gets Hot AND Rising Heat

If you want to use Blaze Away then pair with Optimized Cooling

[unreal nova]

To be fair, is why I HATE plasma.

It's already dook at 5 ping. 300...

[thick kestrel]

in fairness to the tenderizer it's a send up to the assault rifles from the starship troopers movie and those were... definitely over the top props ^^

[carmine zealot]

Oh okay, that makes sense. The Morita was ridiculously oversized.

[thick kestrel]

yarp ^^

[carmine zealot]

The Japanese ST movies had a redesigned Morita which was appropriately compact. It loaded from the top of the buttstock IIRC.

[thick kestrel]

aye, back to darktide though I think the recon lasguns are broadly fine in context, particularly when compared against the heavier standard las or the helbores.

even some of the autoguns (beyond the Vraks which is essentially an SMG) are pretty dang lengthy in standard configs

[ember nest]

Why

[carmine zealot]

Too long.

[ember nest]

I don't get it

[carmine zealot]

Visual design is too long. Bullpups are usually very short.

[muted peak]

My first interrupted damnation

[ember nest]

Ah kk

[muted peak]

I finally understand why people love high levels

[ember nest]

Whenever I hear stuff like this I just go "you have gun autism don't you"

Its okay its why I can't watch topgun or play ace combat

[carmine zealot]

I can't watch most war movies at all.

The jingoism is too much for me. Or the pacifism in some cases.

[muted peak]

the people who say those kind of sentences just want to differentiate between you and themselves

[ember nest]

I'm talking moreso the way the planes work

[ember nest]

?

[muted peak]

Had a girl tell me "don't you have a fucking life?" if you have that much time to spend on games

[tall torrent]

ignorance is not equal to trolling

[carmine zealot]

The impossible aerobatics?

[ember nest]

And the missiles

missiles dont "follow" you

[muted peak]

what part did you not get?

[ember nest]

They cut you off

The entire part, demir.

Hence the "?"

I don't know what that scentence means

[muted peak]

like

[carmine zealot]

And they are usually twice as fast as the target.

[muted peak]

they sometimes just want to insult your tastes because they can't fucking empathy with you

[unreal nova]

WDYM, barrel rolls prevent them from locking on. /j

[ember nest]

You assume saying "gun autism" means they...are insulting that they like guns?

[muted peak]

nah I meant a similar case

didn't you complain because you felt insulted?

at least that was what I understood

[ember nest]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this isn't the same as whatever happened with that girl

[muted peak]

sorry If i misunderstood

[carmine zealot]

Nono, he was saying he's like that about planes.

Very particular

[muted peak]

oh

sory then

[ember nest]

The plane pulling a cobra and not flaring

💀

[thick kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-try-spinning-spinning-try-episode-1-star-wars-gif-11108395436877134921

[carmine zealot]

Physics is overrated.

[ember nest]

Cobras like...you can pull them...but why

[carmine zealot]

It's more of a flex.

[ember nest]

In an airshow maybe

[unreal nova]

To be fair, I don't know much about planes and such, but I know barrel rolls don't actually stop that.

[carmine zealot]

In real combat it would probably leave you low and slow.

[ember nest]

Real combat tends to be very

Very short

[thick kestrel]

broadly the current fad manoeuvre really, it's got a cool name and looks neat so it's getting spammed in a lot of media.

similar to john wick reloads in the firearms space.

[ember nest]

With planes each missile basically has a range band where like

You just aren't

Getting away, realistically

You die

The cyclopean autonomous tube demands your death and it's eye shall not blink

[carmine zealot]

But it's complicated by the limited fov of the missile seekers, older generations especially.

[ember nest]

As early as the aim9g, the fov was too wide for you to do anything worthwhile with that

That was like the 70s

[carmine zealot]

I was thinking the longer range stuff.

[ember nest]

If you're talking radar guided stuff, the fov is almost completely irrelevant

If you mean what the eye is "looking at" and not the total gimbal limit for IR seekers, those tend to be extremely narrow to the missile's benefit.

1.5°s and shit like that

[half glade]

when two vets that have Focus Target talent put tag on the same mob, will the damage bonuses stack? And if they have Target Down sub-talent as well, will toughness gains be doubled?

[ember nest]

Thats actually a good question

[unreal nova]

Highest stacks take priority. Rest just refreshes.

[half glade]

I see, thanks

What about if me myself first put tag with 5 stacks on a mob - then accidentally put another one due to double-click? The second tag will come up too soon and won't have as much stacks as the initial one. Will it override it, or not?

[narrow widget]

it doesn't override it

[unreal nova]

Will still be 5, the second tag refreshes.

[half glade]

oh, that's great

[carmine zealot]

Did they change that? I thought different amounts of stacks did "stack". Like a Vet with 5 stacks and a Vet with 8 stacks would give 13 stacks.

[unreal nova]

Just don't do it too much, the noise will piss ppl off.

[ionic trail]

what exactly is the meme with the achlys combat axe?

why are there so many posts dogging on it like merely holding the thing will curse your entire bloodline

-# (besides the fact the rashad is apparently better)

[half glade]

it's the opposite lol, I have points invested in there that could be used somewhere else - and constantly forget to tag things, except for bosses

[carmine zealot]

I always seem to get other vets with macros that constantly ping everything they aim at.

[unreal nova]

Well, if FS broke it, who knows. The intended way is highest stack takes priority, any other refreshes.

[narrow widget]

bind ping to lmb 🔥 🔥 🔥

NEED AMMO

NEED HEALING

[unreal nova]

You just take the base then and redirect at most. Or just base if you barely use it.

[unreal nova]

Lmb is ping. Lazy karkers.

I did the karking penance on controller, kark's sake.

[carmine zealot]

Is that what they're doing? So annoying.

[narrow widget]

NEED MEDICAE

MEDICAE!

[carmine zealot]

I have focus target and never remember to use it except on bosses.

[tame lodge]

It got no cleave base on lights and heavy 1

The attack angles are vertical

[ionic trail]

you are absolutely right.

im testing out different marks atm in preparation for a double shotty build and I tried the antax after asking that question

made the issue clear as fucking day

thank you either way

man you can't even Branx pickaxe this

trying to H1-L2 just goes to H2.

damn.

[unreal nova]

You should ping more with it, especially annoying bs that needs to die faster.

[narrow widget]

I NEED that outline

can't see shit w/o it

[carmine zealot]

I shoot first and think later way too much.

[unreal nova]

I think you might be better off keystoneless.

[narrow widget]

ws

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[unreal nova]

Or that.

[carmine zealot]

Very much.

[unreal nova]

Depends on loadout.

[narrow widget]

true

3 more booms in the bolter tho

[carmine zealot]

Have to drop Iron Will or Determined for WS.

[unreal nova]

Determined?

[carmine zealot]

Suppression immunity.

[narrow widget]

not worth taking usually

[carmine zealot]

Trying to do the Adept Assassin penance without it was murder.

[unreal nova]

Takes a drink. Just why?

[unreal nova]

I did it bistol and knoife... on a controller...

[narrow widget]

ok but ur John Darktide

John veteran darktide

[unreal nova]

Without it.

[unreal nova]

Are you a gastlight main?

[narrow widget]

[unreal nova]

This isn't gaslight mains.

[carmine zealot]

Yeah but I'm not you.

[narrow widget]

we girlbossing in the veteran chat

[unreal nova]

That's two rooms down.

[narrow widget]

no that's psyker chat

[serene bough]

i remember when femboys infested vet chat

[unreal nova]

That's psykergaslight mains

[scenic vapor]

the freak mains are here?

[narrow widget]

yea

@empty surge geti n here

[tame lodge]

Always

https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-hulk-hulk-smash-bruce-banner-i'm-always-angry-gif-5353919742858177543

[scenic vapor]

thay are lurking amongus

[narrow widget]

lurking??

it's p obvious

[unreal nova]

Naw, they have been here as much as I've been there.

[half glade]

The problem is, it's often some squishy stuff, like bomber or sniper, and the damage stacks aren't really useful. And when it's actually useful, like if pack of crushers comes, I never remember to tag them 🤷‍♂️

[unreal nova]

Reaper.

Bastard needs to die asap.

Not even joking.

[half glade]

partly also because I still can't come up with really convenient hotkey to tag stuff, like the one you could use under a lot of pressure, when manevuring. I understand why people put it to LKM honestly..

[unreal nova]

Side buttons.

[tawdry osprey]

T

[unreal nova]

If you got a slightly fancier mouse.

[red robin]

vt2 vets go hog wild with the T button

[half glade]

yea, I got one, but it's not too fancy, has 3 side buttons. 2 are at really good spots and are already bound to blitz and weapon's special attack. And the third one is kinda there, but not really useful

[tame lodge]

Put tag on m5

And special on m4

[red robin]

Middle mouse button ping?

Also blitz on anything but G wild

[atomic void]

T just feels natural for Tag

[tame lodge]

Tried playing Helbore with FT using this config

[red robin]

It’s G for grenade

[tame lodge]

Top 10 worst experience trying to keep ads

[red robin]

TRUE

[tame lodge]

Tag

[atomic void]

i have granades on middle mouse

[tame lodge]

And shoot

[red robin]

I just changed my ping button to T

[half glade]

the wheel? yes, I have tag there atm, but it it's really prone to failures in a fight. Instead of click you may produce a wheel rotate without a click often, when your movements are already not precise due to stress and a lot of other movements you do

[red robin]

I do not trust anything to the mouse wheel

Other than weapon swap

[narrow widget]

middle mouse:

[half glade]

in my mouse it' the only middle button I have

it's a scroll wheel and a button at the same time

[past stratus]

I tag with alt, my keyboard is big

[tame lodge]

Read up

[half glade]

already bound to jump..

[red robin]

Yeah I had it as my ping, but I wanted to change it up

[past stratus]

jumping with alt is crazy work

[red robin]

Rn middle mouse ain’t bound to anything

On my settings

[half glade]

works better than other options I've tried though

[red robin]

Mod ur game and get the dodge/jump QoL mod

[tame lodge]

I either jump with Alt or accidentally press Windows key

[half glade]

What happened for me when it was like this is me constantly activating blitz instead of combat ability - and vice versa lol. Because I become quite stressed when I play this game and my fingers fly everywhere. So now I have combat ability both on F and G - and blitz on my mouse side button

[narrow widget]

mouse up bound to weapon swap sorry

[red robin]

True

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/249

True skill filter mod right here

I use it because I can’t be bothered to improve on this niche thing

[narrow widget]

simply bind jump to alt

[half glade]

I've tried it. It seemed like a good idea at first, but still led to too many unexpected jumps. Not sure why, if it's the mod issue, or just me, button-mashing under stress. But only separating the jump from dodge finally did the trick

[red robin]

Yeah

I never encountered any issues with it

Inb4 mod doesn’t work and it’s placebo (I have improved)

Unlikely tho

[tame lodge]

Crazy twist

It never worked

[narrow widget]

crazy twist? crazy... frog

[atomic void]

why mod this when u can change the keybind

[red robin]

I can’t be bothered to change up my muscle memory

[ionic trail]

grabbed that mod as soon as i registered the name

because same

if i were to try to separate my dodge key from jump it'd go poorly
plus trying to dodge lside would be a nightmare on my poor fingers

[red robin]

True

Shits alrdy bad enough

My right hand gets the carpal tunnel from light spam clicking

My left hand gets the contortionist stretches jump all over the keyboard

[atomic void]

i changed the controls after like 2 games cause i kept eating shit trying to dodge lol

what a weird choice to bind both

[narrow widget]

literally the only reason I use skitarius

[red robin]

Vt2 vets training got me used of it

[atomic void]

i have jump on one of the mouse buttons and dodge on space

[narrow widget]

[atomic void]

it works

[red robin]

https://tenor.com/view/king-crimson-gif-22172546

“It just works”

[atomic void]

this mod is really cool but i might as well not be playing the game
i set it up to do crusher combos without me doing anything

[red robin]

I’d use it, but idk my AuDHD needs the tactile stimulation of manually inputting an attack chain

[atomic void]

same

its good for light spam stuff tho

cause clicking m2 fast is not simualting

it just kills your joins

[narrow widget]

gotta like

[red robin]

True

[narrow widget]

protect my wrists for piano

[red robin]

True

[atomic void]

oh yeah fair lmao

im probably too far gone

no dmged wrists but will be soon

been playing games since i was a wee lad

[red robin]

Yknow the wrists are bad when drawing/writing on paper for a while starts cramping

Can’t win

[fringe pelican]

I got bad wrists and then i do strength training in gym just to make it worse heck yeah

[red robin]

True

[fringe pelican]

But idk how some of you do dodging and jump on same button, crazy stuff

[red robin]

Stretch and warm up? Nah fam time to make these joints pay

[tawdry osprey]

i put dodge on sprint

[fringe pelican]

What messes with input rhythm actually is hitstop on some weapons like chainswords n stuff

[atomic void]

"subtly"

[red robin]

Cleave cap is abysmal mechanic

[atomic void]

real

its a relic mechanic

[fringe pelican]

Blobshark doesnt like fun

Pay for skin

[atomic void]

when spawns were lower

[past stratus]

I wish the spawns were lower again

[tawdry osprey]

yea

[atomic void]

i like the spawns

i just dont like 10000 bulwarks

[tawdry osprey]

less enemies but more powerful

[void dragon]

"want to use real sights for Helbores? PAY UP NERD"
-ObeseFish employee

[red robin]

I kinda liked that one patch where reg shooters were super accurate

[tawdry osprey]

like i can one shot a crusher, therefore they send 9999
who the fuck balances this

[narrow widget]

(insert 40 fucking bulwarks mtg card)

[tawdry osprey]

seeing an ogryn should put fear in your heart

[narrow widget]

yeah they should send more crushers

clearly

[half glade]

Can't you just mod it? Or it's not allowed?

[void dragon]

The same that review bombs the game when a nerf to the most broken weapon is LEAKED

[past stratus]

when I first played the game, a crusher was something to give the team pause at least. Now you're constantly fighting three of them plus 500 gunners and tox bombers

[atomic void]

keep the spawns on normal enimies and lighter elites
buff ogryns big time and reduce their numbers

boom

[void dragon]

You do can, but is something that should not be an issue to begin with

[atomic void]

hire me i just solved it

[narrow widget]

and they're the least of the threats

[tame lodge]

You can
It's called Weapon Customization
It's also very unstable mod

[red robin]

I’m a big fan of having fps

Weapon customization kinda makes my frames lower

[narrow widget]

yeah but I'm a bigger fan of actual sights

[red robin]

Love weapon fov mod

[void dragon]

I want to aim with the sniper gun please

[red robin]

I kinda don’t like how close the Helbore is with ads

If I’m not fishbowling with peripheral vision with ultrawide I ain’t happy

Beyond spoiled

[compact oracle]

wait do people use the helbore now

is it time?

[fringe pelican]

Isnt one mark somewhat ok?

[narrow widget]

damn imagine being rich enough for ultrawide

[red robin]

Having rich friends is great

[tame lodge]

Helbore went from S to S++ with the recent buffs

[red robin]

Discount when they upgrade

[atomic void]

must have for two hander melees imo unless u like your screen being half filled

[compact oracle]

are you the person who hates the arbites shotguns

[tame lodge]

I hate everything about Arby's

Except the dog

[compact oracle]

alright, im making a helbore build now then

[red robin]

Draw time change made it from S to God Tier best weapon

[narrow widget]

https://tenor.com/view/eggman-announcement-speech-sonic-the-hedgehog-report-gif-16600754

[void dragon]

Don't recall all the Mks, but aren't they all just aiming on rails? You can't even see the body of your target when trying to line up a headshot

[compact oracle]

two shield weapons with arbites makes you miss having peripheral vision

[red robin]

Try hotspot tier 1, it’s bugged and it has 80% hit mass reduction on headshot on your melee weapon too

[compact oracle]

buh

[atomic void]

cant see shit simulator

[compact oracle]

now thats some fatshark jank

[void dragon]

Dog is innocent, it's all ObeseFish's fault

[void dragon]

It is STILL bugged??!

[atomic void]

the up close fov is more "realistic" (you're carrying a big ass shield) but not very practical

[red robin]

Yur

Enjoy it while you can

[void dragon]

No

[red robin]

But I doubt it’ll be fixed

[compact oracle]

if it does itll be in 2 years and itll break something else

[void dragon]

Just like Arby quite recently

[red robin]

What’s borked on arby?

[tame lodge]

Seems like 2 keystones are half working

[red robin]

Can’t win

[tame lodge]

And fatsharks next hotfix is scheduled for August

[void dragon]

Funny thing, the class is so broken that even then you can

[narrow widget]

imperium mandated summer break

[void dragon]

Just not at the game of "having a nice balanced game" ObeseFish always lose that game

[void dragon]

"the players are suffering? Too bad! It's the Warhammer experience BB"

[red robin]

Ngl tho, mk7 claw sword kinda fun with its parry attack chain, stab into overhead light kinda flows good, rending strikes + exploit weakness talents and shred blessing makes it fare well into carapace