veteran-class

[honest quiver]

😔

but that's for all four

[unreal nova]

I'm on poor ppl subsidies.

[sonic wedge]

Man

since Im about to be laid off anyways Im gonna use all my goddamn insurance coverage for all wisdom tooth

its annoying as it always bites on my side cheeks

[honest quiver]

it's fucked up because they said it would cost more to do just two or just the one that's bothering me

smh

dentists are creatures

[unreal nova]

I just stopped caring cos too much money, rather save for PC upgrades and such. Dings happiness.

[honest quiver]

alright directX debug tool is installed, i'll see what i can see in-game with it on

[unreal nova]

Mine came out malformed. Two were naked dentine.

[sonic wedge]

Pain is more acceptable than not having updated pc parts

[unreal nova]

One was half enameled.

Only one came out... normal if off shaped.

So had pain ever since.

[ionic goblet]

noob here, level 8. What are some things you wish you new when you started, like about buying things from the store or upgrading weapons, need some tips

[honest quiver]

save your money and resources

[unreal nova]

Not waste on shop till 30.

[honest quiver]

invest in apple

[unreal nova]

Use emperor's gifts.

[steep flower]

Nothing really :/ just shoot them in the head with puncture

[sonic kayak]

Buy NVidia

[ionic goblet]

okay thanks

[unreal nova]

Buy only curios.

If you feel like you could use extra hp/toughness.

[ionic goblet]

whats considered the best ranged weapon type for tooper, or is it just subjective

[unreal nova]

But is better to rush 30 before.

[sonic wedge]

Honestly its subjective depending on your playstyle

[honest quiver]

if you mean veteran it's entirely subjective

same with most of the classes

[ionic goblet]

veteran yeah lol

[unreal nova]

Your choice, unless you want pure meta.

[half glade]

Why does Infiltrate have the highest number of subnodes among abilities in the Tree ffs? As if it's so powerful they had to tax it higher. It's probably the least used ability by vets? Surprise Attack should really be an integrite part of the main thing, honestly.. One point for what it does is way too much

[sonic wedge]

If ranged trooper, recon lasgun if you want ammo conservation but most people swear to the boltgun

[honest quiver]

directX debug doesn't show me anything useful for hitboxes 😔

[unreal nova]

Pure meta is plasma, recon fast/middle marks, hellbore, vraks inf auto, Bistol ('nadier build).

[sonic wedge]

You cant go wrong with using infantry lasgun but infantry autogun has some useful damage on certain situations that the infantry lasgun cant do

[ionic goblet]

yeah i liked the lazgun more than what im currently using, which is an autogun

i just havent been getting lucky with the emperors gifts

[honest quiver]

it used to be way worse man lol

used to be you only got a gift for winning sometimes, not every time

[unreal nova]

I think you might need to ask modders for cheaty hitboxes for solo play (local) mode.

[honest quiver]

i don't think anyone cares enough to help me with that

[unreal nova]

Can just ask in modder discord.

Or ask ppl who read code to translate things.

[unreal nova]

You either use weaker or just get used to new weapons basically.

At 30 is when your shops are at highest tier so you get a chance at the best.

[sonic kayak]

Meanwhile with WS being right below it and most of the nodes are useless except for maybe the one that reloads your gun per enemy killed

[tame lodge]

Helbore is currently top 1 ranged weapon on vet

However

It's Helbore

An acquired taste

You might like it

You might hate it

[red robin]

Helbore actually goated from 1 simple change

[tame lodge]

But we all agree that

[red robin]

Wield time change is now the golden era

[grand perch]

the toughness gain one is actually great. youre just too taxed to take it usually

[tame lodge]

It needs better Iron Sights

[unreal nova]

You mean, needs iron sights.

[red robin]

Helbore w blessing Hotshot 1 making devils claw into a cleave beast is my fav weapon pair

[ionic goblet]

lol it has no sights? mean git gud I guess

[honest quiver]

helbore's fantastic

[unreal nova]

More like, it has railings for a sight.

[honest quiver]

i like the bayonet special too on the mk V

very strong

[red robin]

I like the gold skin

[unreal nova]

Actual sight mia.

[grand perch]

if it didnt have a cleave damage distribution cap that is

[red robin]

Real shit?

[tame lodge]

Seems like an mk3/5 problem

Mk4

[past stratus]

Mk IV having the worst Bayonet is criminal

[ionic goblet]

i see, if i remember right that looks like the sights of an m1 garand

[tame lodge]

Can't be best at everything

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-travis-scott-apology-travis-astroworld-gif-23723017

[dapper plank]

i feel like you can't compare hellbore to plasma in power and versatility.

hellbore is great with a high skill team, but even then plasma beats it

[tame lodge]

Damn so team

Outside of you know

Weapon to weapon comparison

[honest quiver]

i play with complete crayon munchers (randoms) exclusively and i thrive with helbore

[past stratus]

isn't the Helbore better at bosses? Which is a big thing in Havoc

[dapper plank]

what difficulty do you play on

[tame lodge]

Havoc wise it's meeting 1 taps with infinite ammo

Casual Helbore W

[unreal nova]

It's a joke. There used to be a system that lets you customise guns, it was cancelled.

[half glade]

wth lol, pls ignore me, I'm totally junky today

[half glade]

Yea, the tree could use some rework definitely. Funny part is it seems like it was reworked about a year ago? I'm using a build from 1 yo YT video, and the tree in it looked very different, especially the bottom part of it

[honest quiver]

havoc, damnation/auric

[sonic kayak]

Ohhh those were the times

[honest quiver]

idrk what you expected me to say

[past stratus]

with Shock Trooper the Helbore really might as well have infinite ammo

[unreal nova]

Malice. Cos uhh... I always expect to solo those.

[dry cloak]

if you pace your shots to be always crits then yes

[unreal nova]

Or heresy.

[dry cloak]

and by doing that youre going ammo POSITIVE

[unreal nova]

You know when you have to solo heresy at 14, your team isn't all there.

[tame lodge]

Uprising so I can play while sleeping

[honest quiver]

nice

[sudden cedar]

@unreal nova I know that feeling.

[unreal nova]

I watched it as well anyway. And I'm a goofball.

[past stratus]

don't make fun of Heresy, they put Lights Out on Heresy these days

😓

[honest quiver]

"sights" on all the helbore boys - mk v to mk iiia to mk iv

[unreal nova]

Do not trauma me more.

Went to play.

Sees 3 lights out, 1 pox gas and 2 inferno.

I'm not playing today, aren't I?

[past stratus]

yeah everyone is a gangster Havoc gamer till they get Lights Out

[unreal nova]

Runs to mortis....

Every wave has trappers.

I hate this game.

[half glade]

Heresy's malestorms and HI/Gauntlets are pretty intense, like when you are tired of dying in damnation but still want some challenge kind of intense

[honest quiver]

it's funny that the mk iv is the only one with iron sights but they gave it that fuck ass special attack

[unreal nova]

Well, more than half, still crappy.

[honest quiver]

and also the highest ADS damage

[unreal nova]

Since playing at night so 300-400 ping trappers are absolute bs.

[dapper plank]

@honest quiver do you use the stabby marks?

[ionic goblet]

I would upload a screenshot of my talent tree, but this server wont let me

[honest quiver]

yeah i run mk V usually

[past stratus]

I love the silent Pox Buster bug with Lights Out because it transforms Darktide from a horde game to a horror game

[honest quiver]

just what i'm used to tbh

plus i think it looks the best

[ember nest]

what r u using on ur helbore btw

[ionic goblet]

looks like something the skaven would use

[honest quiver]

do i look skaven to you son

[half glade]

You can use build editor here, save it as unlisted and share the link if you need advice: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[ember nest]

unfortunately with that fit

yes

[honest quiver]

STOPPPP

i like it 😭

[past stratus]

yes-yes

[honest quiver]

QUIT IT

[past stratus]

[ember nest]

you know I don't like how the helbore has deadly accurate hipfire but the fuckass default crosshair

[honest quiver]

ikr

[ember nest]

thank dog for mods

[unreal nova]

Waves warpstone infront.

[honest quiver]

i think i will play with the plasma gun for a little bit though

[sudden cedar]

Not enough warpstone! 🐀

[unreal nova]

You want some? I got a bunch to annoy Fwuffy-thing with.

[past stratus]

the Plasma is pretty obscene

I can see why it has a cult following now that I leveled it up

[honest quiver]

is this better smh

[ember nest]

the plasma needs less cleave on basic shots imo

[unreal nova]

Great for distracting then patpats.

[ember nest]

let the charged weight of the glob matter

[past stratus]

if they just buff the damage on charged without adjusting the charge I don't think the weapon will be useful

because that shit ramps up heat so fucking fast

[ember nest]

it'd be a rebalance for sure

[honest quiver]

wtf

[ember nest]

but as is people complain that it invalidates stuff like revolver

[honest quiver]

curio icon's glitched out

[unreal nova]

Did you mod?

Or is this that DX debugger?

[honest quiver]

no i turned the debug off

[past stratus]

if you can do like 3 charged shots then have to do that fuck ass animation to disperse heat

[honest quiver]

nbd

[past stratus]

3 business day ahh animation

[honest quiver]

lol

[unreal nova]

Just UI loading things then.

[unreal nova]

I mean, bolter pullout time.

[past stratus]

yeah but the bolter can mag dump a beast of nurgle

and it doesn't take that long to reload

[half glade]

would make more sense if charged shots would have different properties, hence different uses. Like, lower range but higher rending. So used to get rid of several armored beefy targets, but not that useful for sniping multiple things

[sudden cedar]

Whatever happens, people will complain about something.

[unreal nova]

I mean, you trade pullout time for reload time. XD

[warm schooner]

"we kept m1 cleave the same and doubled m2 cleave"

[unreal nova]

Is normal.

[past stratus]

not me, I was already a Helbore guy and now they buffed it more. As long as they don't touch that, I'm happy

[sudden cedar]

https://tenor.com/bVS0y.gif

Change.

[past stratus]

I only leveled Plasma for competionist reasons

[past stratus]

There is the hidden benefit of being the God Emperor's favored weapon allowing you to bring holy retribution to the enemies of the Imperium 😌

[tame lodge]

carrying ammo
Has a plasma gun

[past stratus]

I think the weapon needs to be strong because it is Vet's unique. But it needs to find a niche, they could keep it as is, buff charged and simply nerf the range imo. The range is stupid

[tame lodge]

[past stratus]

Being able to delete a pixel of a gunner from across the map without any charge is very stupid

[unreal nova]

That's a flamer.

[honest quiver]

that's why i hate the leather outfit

if you're not running an autogun then it's just weird

[unreal nova]

I only use Bistols for most builds lul.

[honest quiver]

ok?

[sudden cedar]

Why those weird restrictions?

[half glade]

FS just need to change the cartridges to cigars in it lol, will work with any weapon then

[ionic goblet]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f65d201-2760-4dd6-b6ba-74985896686a/lv-9?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[honest quiver]

i'd rather they just let us buy whatever cosmetic we wanted any time we wanted

[ionic goblet]

thats the talent build i went with so far

[half glade]

ergh.. that's not much of talents in there 🙂

[ember nest]

it's lucky bullets smh

[ionic goblet]

yeah, level 9 lol

[half glade]

Don't think much of builds until about lv 22-25 then, really. Just play casually on low threat and try things

like, you still don't even play more or less complete class

[ionic goblet]

veteran is the weakest class in the game?

[half glade]

I blow at shooting so for me it is lol. Though the "middle guy" is pretty strong, strong enough to be viable in Havoc all the way to the top

[grand perch]

yes and no

vet is only weak in the sense that design is outdated and has been powercrept

you can still do great with the class

[unreal nova]

No, you said the leather outfit from penances. I just ran it with Bistol till inquisitor sets.

[unreal nova]

Because all but that recon build run boomies some way.

[odd hemlock]

Hi all, any chance I can get some feedback on my build? Thank you. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f65d525-958a-49a0-baba-aa3e128ea130/clownbaby-test

i think talents and curios may need some tuning

[faint beacon]

Top 5 class of Darktide

(It’s been powercrept hard)

[ember nest]

and also like

nerfed

don't forget that part

[ionic goblet]

i would assume arbites is the strongest because why come out with a new class if it isnt going to be good right?

[ember nest]

it's footknight with even more toughness regen

hard to make it ass

u get toughness for spending stamina like

what

[ionic goblet]

i dont really know what that means, footknight

[ember nest]

class people really really enjoy in vt

[ionic goblet]

ah, i didnt really touch vermin for long at all

[faint beacon]

Ogryn and Arby are easily the best atm

Psyker right behind

[half glade]

well, let's put it like this: those who try to dismiss the issue of arbites being OP often tell you that ogryn, previously most OP class, are OP too 🙂

[unreal nova]

Oggy is best.

[half glade]

Though I haven't see much ogryns doing things what arbites routinely do, like displatching crowds of armored elites alone

[unreal nova]

No, oggy IS best, Arby is mini oggy.

[unreal nova]

Cos oggy is actually somehow harder to play than Arby.

Less bs tanky imo.

Oggy would need perma taunt to even match Arby in sheer tankiness imo.

They absolutely hit way harder though.

[heavy rover]

Top 5 classes in Darktide:
Vet
Vet
Vet
Vet
Vet

[unreal nova]

And no, we are not talking about slab special.

[trim badger]

It depends on what we define as weak

[steady crest]

vet is NOT weak, also its the best duo h40 class too (with arb or ogryn)
But its tree could see some changes so we can actually have some diversity in some areas (nades/auras etc)

[trim badger]

If you mean build variety effectiveness then yes he's the weakest

If you mean potential best build vs other classes potential best build then nah

[steady crest]

@trim badger Hello fellow SA (SOUTH AMERICA) boi

[trim badger]

You're brazilian... #NotTheSame /j

[unreal nova]

It's weak in the... you need to put in 10x the investment and effort to get what others get baseline.

[steady crest]

veteran is kinda locked behind killing a lot of specials for it to feel very strong

[grand perch]

this reads very wrong if you know german history

[trim badger]

https://youtu.be/diMJWdWdtbc?si=_KLng4mKydx-2idE

Havoc 40 ogryn btw

This is not what we define as extreme high effort xddd

[steady crest]

fixed it XD

[distant plaza]

the 1.0 vs 0.5 second stamina regen delay that the vet has vs arbites is like night and day

[unreal nova]

I refuse to look at Dueling Sword. That's just busted.

[steady crest]

You should shout after the 5 stacks of relentless u nob

and the riposte proc

[trim badger]

Blah blah blah bitch!!!

[hollow ibex]

DS and plasma. smells like bitch in here.

[tame lodge]

Not really

[trim badger]

This was made as a quickie

[trim badger]

Can be done with knife mk6 push attack spam too xddd

[unreal nova]

It helps, but the problem is literally 90% of their melees are meh at best if you don't look at the best 5 weapons.

[steady crest]

You gotta bring the big guns to face the big guys (arb and ogryn)

[trim badger]

I get it I'm sorry your weakspot rate is below 50%

[unreal nova]

Their talents can't cover for meh.

Also, Lone Wulf is 8 talents in 1.

[half glade]

yea, the "middle guy" is pretty ok, the problem is, I didn't try vet to just feel like playing Zealot again lol. So I tried the "left guy", and it was the most miserable experience I've had in the game, partly because I blow at shooting, but also because of how game seems to disregard shooting gameplay altogether

[trim badger]

Vet benefits more from finesse melees compared to Zealot xddd

[steady crest]

Arb is for sure the strongest class atm

[faint beacon]

My Weakspot rate being a solid 60%+ cause I’m running weapons that demand weak spots or death

[steady crest]

you can just press W and chill

[faint beacon]

Taxe + Vigil

[unreal nova]

I would totally trade the shitty cover mechanic for lone wulf stats.

I barely can use cover without being shot to heck anyway.

[hollow ibex]

i'm guessing you're one of the ones that review bombed DT over the leaked patchnotes

[trim badger]

I want DS nerfed tho?

xd?

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/skeptical-chris-carey-bud-malone-bad-trip-hmm-gif-20975567

sure bud

whatever you say

actions speak louder than words

[trim badger]

I'm being ragebaited...

[unreal nova]

Is more, ppl expected more like a chainaxe solo or something than 2x meta.

[trim badger]

Cuz in the forums I always supported DS getting nerfed

So ya

[past stratus]

You converted me, now that I leveled other weapons, I think the Bistol is by far the best WS gun. It is so versatile and fast.

[hollow axle]

How and Why ?

[calm shard]

carapace/elites surgical/weight of fire

[unreal nova]

Is still mostly for 'nadier builds. But it transfers to like all human sized classes. Gunker uses it, Arby can use it for impact nade build, zealots like run & gun type.

[calm shard]

sustained fire is a funny option to replace weight of fire if you don't find yourself using the charge speed so much

[unreal nova]

Well, by gunker, is more meleeker.

[past stratus]

It does good in close and mid range. It has synergies with frags. The alternate shot is fairly precise, good ammo economy

[unreal nova]

Hipfire is also precise, but only first shot.

[past stratus]

The revolver is also cool but the ammo economy is ass and it doesn't have the perk of little stagger that the bistol does in close range in hordes

[unreal nova]

Revolver basically has better bps on auric. Is absolute no go on havocs.

[tame lodge]

Currently able to reach one shots on havoc
Infinite ammo

The draw speed is not dogshit anymore

[calm shard]

ammo economy xd

[unreal nova]

But aurics. You have ammo there... unless 3 rumbler oggies.

[hollow axle]

What marks do you use perks and blessing ? Do you then use survivalist or other aura ? Do you need to headshot often ?

[past stratus]

You want to headshot for the one shots. But you can body shot some stuff to put damage on them

Survivalist + Shock trooper means that a one shot crit is ammo+

[steady crest]

You cant cleave hordes to kill specials, so its "tier" drops quite a bit unfortunately

[honest quiver]

recon does not feel good

[unreal nova]

VIc?

[ember nest]

@calm shard do u use power di or a different scoreboard

[barren girder]

anyone know how many seconds it takes to charge up a shot across all the helbore marks, assuming perfect stats? trying to see if the iv would even be worth it on weapon spec when ranged specialist only lasts 5s

[faint beacon]

Tbh the damage ramp on IV lets you half charge and still kill shit

Full charge I usually do for Carapace

[barren girder]

oh, i was under the wrong impression WoF needed fully charged shots to chain LOL

i'll start trying half charged shots

[gaunt shadow]

Anyone up to help me with the on overwatch penance?

[dry cloak]

You want to do ot the proper way or cheese it?

[gaunt shadow]

Cheese

[dry cloak]

Get the train mission. Bring the plasmagun and let the rest of the group finish the mission. Then blow yourself up

[gaunt shadow]

Really?

[dry cloak]

Yes

[gaunt shadow]

How does it work?

[dry cloak]

You stand at the start of the mission and wsit for the rrst to finish

Then down yourself with plasma gun blow up

Then die and rest will pick you up

[tame lodge]

So like

Every weapon

Bar plasma or infinite cleave

Except plasma has shit ammo economy

And needs more work to hit 1 taps at havoc

You do know that havoc hordes have 4.8+ mass

Right?

Doesn't seem like it

[gaunt shadow]

What's the proper option?

[unreal nova]

Git gud. Yep.

Or the standard cheese is begging someone to solo malice while you hang and die at the start.

[hollow ibex]

It’s bugged right now innit

[calm shard]

power DI

[honest quiver]

might also get lucky and quickplay queue into a match that's about to end

[normal bay]

Low int malice

[steady crest]

You can easily play it in havoc, could be a skill issue on your part.

[normal bay]

Abuse DS, shout, kraks so bosses don't bully you. I recommend a double barrel to dumpster ragers

[unreal nova]

Depends on if team feeds you all the ammo or not.

[steady crest]

Why are you so offended with it?
Im the one with many h40s duos done here, so please chill

[sharp ingot]

I dislike the plasma purely cuz of the firing delay

[unreal nova]

If not, have fun.

[steady crest]

You can still play it, people just create awful habits from playing aurics mag dumping things which you dont need to

[narrow widget]

take shout and frontline

easy way out

[unreal nova]

Is more, if you have in in an ammo hungry comp, it's... gonna be hard.

[steady crest]

Whoever is killing specials should always have ammo prio

[narrow widget]

TRAXIS SOMETHING SOMETHING

[sharp ingot]

I am losing my fucking mind

[narrow widget]

vro just take power sword revolver

[sharp ingot]

I have that yes

game hates me

and I'm also like really shit

[narrow widget]

you can get like 50+ crit weakspot hits per mission

[unreal nova]

So everyone. Except the book bot.

[steady crest]

I mean, if you're playing vet to its full potential you should always have most of the specials, if you check the scoreboard I shared, I had 305 specials kills and the rest of my team had 199.

[steady crest]

Ironically a good book zealot should use lasgun (piety with infernus) and also get a lot of specials XD

You're extremely rewarded for killing specials due the CDR

[unreal nova]

How to shoot when channeling half the game because of rampaging psyker?

[steady crest]

What do you mean

[unreal nova]

Psyker killing everything, CDR up the wazoo.

[steady crest]

99.9% of psyker dont have a lot of specials

[unreal nova]

I know... I just play with the top psykers so lul.

[steady crest]

If you one tap specials, soulblaze stacks dont matter

[unreal nova]

The joke is, if they are killing, you basically just channel ulti all the time.

[steady crest]

I personally never had any issues with any psyker, even when I personally play it, you can triple the 2nd place's dmg but you only get a lot of specials if your team isnt that great

you're free to share any scoreboards with one tho, that would be cool

[unreal nova]

I don't psyker. I just play with them tbh. Better off asking the psykers since I refuse to mod for a reason. I wanna be able to argue for more accessibility built in for players. Consoles can't mod so...

[steady crest]

Thats fair.
Unfortunately everything you said its purely in the empirical side, since you have no way to know how everyone was doing then

[unreal nova]

They have scoreboards. That's the thing, lmao.

[steady crest]

you're simply underperforming if you're building for specials, thats all

I assume we are talking about h40s too

[unreal nova]

I don't. I don't even play seriously. I'm just forgetting it's red and having a bonk Arby basically nowadays.

Yes. Cos if you need a book bot in aurics... I dunno man.

[steady crest]

If you're not playing serious, you are very likely underperforming then, not saying that in a bad way, you're just vibing and gaming
My point still stands, psykers should never be a "problem" in that way

[unreal nova]

By bonk, high impact build with nuncio.

[unreal nova]

They aren't. Good players being good is normal. Fun watch at times.

[steady crest]

What are we discussing about then XD

[unreal nova]

Bored ppl.

[narrow widget]

hi I'm bored ppl

[unreal nova]

Oh hey, another bored person joining in.

[steady crest]

your turn to argue about something

[narrow widget]

uh

what's there to argue about

[grand perch]

field improv is 100% useless

[unreal nova]

If you suck at looting.

_>

[steady crest]

50% AGREE and 50% DISAGREE

[gaunt shadow]

Got the achievement without the cheese

[narrow widget]

nice

[quiet valley]

Field Improv sucks

[narrow widget]

field improv my balls vro

[steady crest]

I say everyone should have ogryn's passive that knocks small horde around, but limited to 1-2 enemies only, so you dont get randomly stuck in one

[faint beacon]

Truth nuke

[narrow widget]

ok wait I figured out something

uhhhh

[faint beacon]

I do not want to tax myself on the class that has 19 tax nodes

[narrow widget]

EVERY CLASS SHOULD BE AS POWERFUL AS ARBITES AND ENEMIES SHOULD BE NERFED 🗣️ 📣

[grand perch]

no sorry you tried to hard

[narrow widget]

IM NOT HARD STUCK HAVOC 3 UR HARD STUCK HAVOC 3

[grand perch]

you need to shitpost harder

[narrow widget]

sorry man I'm out of material

gotta hop on the reddit to steal some hot takes

[grand perch]

thats okay just take lacerate + flesh tearer on a knife, post a random tanner vid and claim everyone else is wrong for hating it

[steady crest]

the forbidden name

[faint beacon]

Forgetting Crit damage and chance

[grand perch]

why would you need those bleed doesnt crit

[narrow widget]

dyt those people in the reddit make a good point about class exclusivity

[sharp ingot]

I'm clearly doing something fucked

a mortis trial on heresy and I only got 20

[narrow widget]

yea just play a normal mission and frontline

[grand perch]

it was enough to say "dyt those people on reddit"

[narrow widget]

lmfao

[sharp ingot]

ok no not even 20

fucking 14

[faint beacon]

Reddit has some good points..

[half glade]

I've just noticed vet doesn't have the usual "+50% coherency range" talent? They have a "+50% aura range" one, but it's not the same?

[quiet valley]

Doesnt matter, those nodes are trash tbh

[unreal nova]

I assume is just FS incoherent descriptions as usual.

[hollow ibex]

Yeah I forget they exist

[half glade]

the build I've been using kinda relies on coherency range lol, so it does matter in this case

[unreal nova]

Like how Strength and Power is basically the same.

[half glade]

have anybody tested it?

[narrow widget]

ok but it's power maul not strength maul

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unreal nova]

I MEAN IN DESCRIPTIONS OF BLESSINGS AND NODES.

[unreal nova]

Nobody uses those talents so...

[tropic notch]

The talents aren’t really worth it so people don’t usually take them

[mortal aspen]

what perks for mk7 Taxe?

[tropic notch]

Unarmored flak

[half glade]

I don't know how to make it survivable otherwise, without going the usual "melee shout plasma gun" way

[mortal aspen]

feels weird to take unarmored ngl

[narrow widget]

shout alone makes it survivable idk what ur talking about

[half glade]

the idea this build seem to imply is "toughness damage resist through coherency" as a foundation

[tropic notch]

Try this https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d51275b-f9c4-4494-9b88-bfafbbbf4981/terrible-vet-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[mortal aspen]

the bruiser guys without helmets, their heads count as unarmored, yeah?

[tropic notch]

Correct

[half glade]

but it's alone doesn't seem to be enough if I use the knife for melee, I can't handle crowd of chaff without going down

with extra +5% toughness per kill it works more or less

[narrow widget]

u use knife primarily for mobility it has lackluster horde clear

[mortal aspen]

I have to say, Taxe + DB Weapon Specialist is probably the most fun build i've played yet

on any class

[tropic notch]

You can use the knife with this lol

[unreal nova]

You have 'nades for horde clear.

You swing knoife to get rending.

[tropic notch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f4191b1-b827-4295-bf1c-f7d37b862778/terrible-vet-dbknife-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[unreal nova]

And then run around more to get more Skirmisher stacks to repeat.

[half glade]

This is what I've been trying to make work: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f64ca2e-1409-42d9-92e6-b6aecf8a8571/my-infiltrator-veteran-test-build

took it from some YT video, but it seems to be pre-nerf when it was way more powerful

I adapted it to suite my abilities a bit too

[narrow widget]

if ur going down middle path at start why r u not taking confirmed kill

[half glade]

But as it is, it breaks when facing a hoard of chaff

[narrow widget]

[reef basalt]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d852e14-3114-485d-b6cd-cb8915cb07ff/the-current-best-veteran-build-imo Is this still a good build? I tried the other variation but the thrust was hard to use

[half glade]

Points are spread thin, I don't have extra to spend, and "Charismatic" is apparently necessary if we assume it indeed gives you +50% coherency range - because other talent gives you up to 33% toughness dmg resist when in coherence, and yet another +50% if you stay 75%+ tougness level, so it's hard to dip from above 75%, you have tons of resist. That the survival foundation for it.

Taking Confirmed kill also kinda duplicates what Focus target already does

you can just put tags on any elite or special and get tougness drops from killing it

[narrow widget]

it's more consistent tho when there are multiple elites

[half glade]

consistency is luxury here 😄 Still, killing elites and specialists isn't a problem with it, the wave of chaff is

I wouldn't like to swap knife for sword, kinda ruins the vibe

the commando infiltrator vibe 😄

[mortal aspen]

is the knife generally better than taxe for this build?
the rending seems pretty crazy

[tame lodge]

Me? Offended?

I'm too lazy for that

[hollow ibex]

And this is where you fucked up

[half glade]

Do you know better implementation of the same idea?

[narrow widget]

take anything other than charismatic 💔

[half glade]

why people hate coherency so much lol? it's the power of friendship literally

[hollow ibex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e1f05dc-6162-4d02-8a5d-ceb865e4f69a/infil-fragger

Not the same thing

But it’s my default infil build

[hollow ibex]

Because taxes

[narrow widget]

damn mine looks pretty similar to this except I have duck n dive and overwatch instead of bring it down

[half glade]

Why frags instead of kraks? I've tried them for brief moment, and they seemed lacking in all fields of use. At least karks destroy huge dudes and bosses with 100% guarantee

[tropic notch]

Both are good

[faint beacon]

It’s mainly cause in anything beyond malice you’re not really getting coherency regen often cause it turns off the moment an enemy focuses you in melee

Aura bonuses are sporadic at best cause it’s not too uncommon to get split off

[steady crest]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-thomas-mcgregor-domhnall-gleeson-peter-rabbit2-the-runaway-gif-20962823

[unreal nova]

Unless you hug the vet with survivalist because the FREE 'nades.

[half glade]

I know, but in the original build we discuss coherency is giving you toughness dmg resist, so its always useful

[faint beacon]

It’s nice but not trust worthy

Always pair it with Iron Will

[narrow widget]

survivalist doesn't give nades....

[unreal nova]

Also, kraks are pointless when you dueling sword 2 poke things before the explosion happens.

[faint beacon]

Close Order Drill

[narrow widget]

that's demo team....

[unreal nova]

Rumbler shoots 'nades.

[narrow widget]

o

tru

[half glade]

Done. This is the build: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f64ca2e-1409-42d9-92e6-b6aecf8a8571/my-infiltrator-veteran-test-build

it uses both talents

[unreal nova]

Is a joke about who would stick to the vet.

Zealots? What is gun? STAB BONK CLANG.

[half glade]

the question is, as it's worded, Charismatic gives you "50% aura range increase" - not "50% coherency range". No idea if it's a typo or actually as is

[unreal nova]

Psyker? What is gun? Staff go brrrrrrrrr.

Arby? My dog exists, I can just bonk.

Another Vet? I also have survivalist.

Oggy... Booms? BOOMS? Assuming rumbler build.

When you have seen rumbler oggies never pull out their melee, you'll understand.

[hollow ibex]

Kraks are ass. That’s why

[mortal aspen]

fatshark are inconsistent with descriptions

[hollow ibex]

Kraks have gotten fucked by power creep

And the increasing horde density

[half glade]

how does it work? I've been playing some rumbler build I found on gameslantern, but the idea there seem to be "hit things in melee to farm lucky bullets stacks, switch to rumbler to make 2-3 shots without reload, rinse repeat". After stacks are spent, you have to reload after each shot and it's painful

[narrow widget]

it's at its peak performance when enemies are dense like in havoc

cuz you get so much value out of each shot

[half glade]

Hoard is (mostly) not an issue if you stick with the squad, there will be some psyker or ogryn to clear it usually (not reliable in pugs). But killing crushers and bosses takes a lot of ammo, and kraks help to save it, while you regen one every minute

[hollow ibex]

There’s a reason why frags are meta in h40 lol

And auric

[narrow widget]

why are you shooting crushers with iag

[hollow ibex]

He took onslaught

[half glade]

because I use knife for melee, and I'm not going into a hoard of chaff, maulers and ragers to kill a crusher in brawl, I'll die in a few seconds

[narrow widget]

yeah so chuck a frag into the horde

and kill the crusher with the knife?

[unreal nova]

It's auric/damnation. They grab all the ammo if they can and stay near a vet.

[tropic notch]

The better you get at the game the less value they have shreddeders> smokes> kraks

[hollow ibex]

You’ll need to learn how to deal with mixed hordes using melee sooner or later

Shooting crushers is a massive waste of ammo outside of specific builds

And taking onslaught is generally not a good idea

[half glade]

I fail to deal with a hoard of 50 groaners with the knife alone as of now lol, with that build I posted. Not to mention mixed hoards. Without using nades or range weapon, I mean

but point taken, may be I should try it differently, as you suggest. thanks

[hollow ibex]

Knife needs to be built in specific ways if you want horde clear tbh

Mk6 has an ok horde clear combo if you use uncanny and riposte or precog

Mk3 is uncanny serrated blade lacerate and weapon specialist

Knife isn’t great for horde either way, but it can be made decent

While still having exceptional single target damage

[faint beacon]

You mean mercy killer?

[hollow ibex]

Nah

[faint beacon]

I don’t see the point in more bleed stacks when you’re running serrated I’ll be honest

[hollow ibex]

I don’t think mk is worth it on vet

[ember nest]

Because the other 2 are way way more niche

[hollow ibex]

More consistent and faster stacking of bleed

Especially when your main threat is the dude right in front of you

[faint beacon]

MK is always up when you have serrated picked that’s why

If you’re running lacerate/FT then obviously uncanny but avoid serrated cause you don’t really need that extra bleed

Better yet

Agile

Agile engagement you’d see better results from

[hollow ibex]

Ehhhh I don’t think it s worth dropping uncanny or lacerate to take MK even with serrated blade tbh

It’ll be better for single target ofc

[faint beacon]

Uncanny MK with serrated

That’s been a combo on Vet for ages

[hollow ibex]

But you lose out on horde dps

[hollow ibex]

Yeah one which I found extremely underwhelming for mk3 knife

[faint beacon]

You try it on Mk6?

Cause I’ve found it to be incredible on Mk6

[serene bough]

i used MK for a bit i didnt like it either

serrated blade + lacerate ive always considered trying though

[hollow ibex]

Nah i don’t like mk6

Maybe it’s a good combo there idk

[serene bough]

i dont think the damage is impressive enough to warrant the point tax

[unreal nova]

Is still meme. I run it because.

[faint beacon]

Mainly because you obviously should naturally be hitting heads, has easier clear combos

Strike down off of special and PA being insane for single

[hollow ibex]

Yah ofc

Though IF I were to use mk6, I’d skip the bleed shit entirely personally

[tame lodge]

Did I just see mk3 lacerate knife recommended for horde clear

Holy shit why y'all lying

You ain't doing shit as soon as 2 Poxwalkers show up

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[faint beacon]

This is auric

[tame lodge]

Yeah

Still ain't doing shit

[faint beacon]

Muted

Blocked

[tame lodge]

3 cleave looking ahh knife when 2 1.5 mass enemies show up

[faint beacon]

Me when I move my mouse 2 inches to the left or right after a swing

[tame lodge]

On a body hit as well because dogshit lacerate

💀

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

C'mon, you guys make it easy to mock lacerate knife

😭

[unreal nova]

It's there to bleed the bulwarks, kay. Stabbing the right hand.

[tame lodge]

It's not even fun anymore

It's just sad

I don't like mocking it anymore

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-he-is-already-dead-stop-gif-5552043

You guys ruined it

[languid prawn]

does it matter what blessing points i put into my weapons? or can i make everything out on it

[hollow ibex]

You’ll get everything eventually but it’s good to prioritize the better blessings

Like lacerate

[languid prawn]

okay thanks

[faint beacon]

Suggesting lacerate to new players is

Something else

[languid prawn]

im working on the recon lasgun and the duelling sword rn but ive just been putting it in randomly so far

[narrow widget]

yea but imagine suggesting uncanny strike

[faint beacon]

True uncanny is throwing

[tame lodge]

😭

[hollow ibex]

I’m just doing it to spite someone on this server

Don’t mind me

[tame lodge]

It's not even fun anymore

Gonna use the energy to pester Fatshark about the cap on some weapons

Why the fragging hell Chaxe is capped

[faint beacon]

Cause fuck you

[tame lodge]

Mk12 can't clear hordes for shit regardless

[faint beacon]

Cap gets removed

Instantly becomes a good weapon

[tame lodge]

And taxe can't hit a 4th target with a base cleave of 3

[narrow widget]

give shredder autopistol infinite cleave it deserves it

[tame lodge]

And Arby's/Psyker can push that cleave to 5.75-6 no problem

And still can't damage the 4th target

This is bullshit

[honest quiver]

combat shotgun fucks

how have i never used it before

what a fool i am

[tame lodge]

Because they had problems

Before the recent buffs

[honest quiver]

makes sense!

kinda starting to like devil's claw sword too

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

[honest quiver]

definitely not my favorite though

after mastery i'm switching out

[hollow ibex]

Fatshart buffing everything about the weapon except the main weakness that drags it down 😭

[honest quiver]

think i'll try power sword next

i remember everyone loving it when the game launched

[past stratus]

Power Sword is our main weapon currently

[hollow ibex]

Pain to use but still the strongest vet melee

[past stratus]

we don't get many options besides the Combat Axe MkIII I think?

[honest quiver]

well and duelling sword right

[hollow ibex]

Hsword and Taxe are good

[past stratus]

or the DS if you have no morals 😠

[honest quiver]

i don't!

:)

love using it

[past stratus]

they were right to call you skaven before 😔

[honest quiver]

i played the beta way back when

i refunded the game on launch and bought it later

when i felt they actually finished the game enough to justify giving them money

[past stratus]

I'm not a big fan of axes but I might switch to the Combat Axe for a bit, I can feel myself getting annoyed at the PSword gameplay

[honest quiver]

i don't like axes that much at all

i didn't even like using them in vermintide

[tame lodge]

They buffed everything about it except flak
When they finally buff flak damage it'll break the game

[narrow widget]

they're like really easy to use

[past stratus]

the combat axe? Yeah I know I leveled it

As much as I dislike Axes, the Combat Axe is a fun weapon to use

[tame lodge]

Oh Fatshark got the memo that axes sucked on vt2

So they gave them Brutal Momentum on DT

[honest quiver]

i'll give it a shot once i roll one that's got the stats i want

[vapid valley]

i used to think the Helbore Lasgun was garbage but now it's the weapon i'm best at getting headshots with,
the charge up time allow me to aim at heads the right way

[tame lodge]

It is an acquired taste

[hollow ibex]

Might have to do with the massive buffs it got too lol

[vapid valley]

yeah probably

[white minnow]

especially the +radius to its shots

so you hit heads more easily

[arctic rampart]

when you get to tac axe, make sure to chose the light spam one

I believe its https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/tactical-axe/atrox-mk-iv-tactical-axe .. and then obviously brutal momentum & headtaker

[tropic notch]

Naru

[arctic rampart]

or, since you said you liked devil claw maybe you're more of an OG shovel guy. who doesnt love a good heavy => BONK

[tropic notch]

If you’re using mk 4 you run headtaker decimetor

Still mk 2 and 7 are the best

[arctic rampart]

k so you're trolling good to know

[tropic notch]

Lol

[arctic rampart]

horde clear is better with brutal momentum. obviously

[tropic notch]

You’re feeding new players incorrect information

[arctic rampart]

I guess if you can't aim for heads it might not be

[tropic notch]

No the mk 4 doesn’t have good angles for bm

[arctic rampart]

you're advising new players to take decimator which is notorious for falling off all the time

[tropic notch]

Use the mk7 pa into heavy

[arctic rampart]

you could at least say take shred if you're gonna troll

[tropic notch]

Read what i said again

“If you’re using the mk4”

[arctic rampart]

take headtaker and "decimetor" yeah I got it

[low oar]

I have the perfect name for my new vet

[tropic notch]

The mk4 is the worst mk of tac axe

[torpid grotto]

I like the heavy attacks

[tropic notch]

The combo for mk2 or 7 is push attack into heavy

[arctic rampart]

mk4 tac axe is really fun since they fixed it months ago. its not the best, but it is fun

[torpid grotto]

Yeah

I like it on scab melee

[arctic rampart]

It does feel not so great when you play ogryn bully club for a while though. hah jeez. Then again that about sums up vet in general right meow

[warm schooner]

"vet feels bad after using one of the most broken weapons in the game that has ever existed"

[tropic notch]

The mk4 horde clear can’t compete with mk 7 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1389426055047020564/tacaxefunny.mp4?ex=6877b119&is=68765f99&hm=09a88d49dc4d63d171d751900dc13f46581f9e247f70871d74f017f2a1db640e&

Mk 4 is good you just don’t run bm with it

[opal crag]

How are sustained fire and punishing salvo on Recon Lasgun XIV ?

[arctic rampart]

yes truly tac axe is amazing, the best weapon! 😻

[muted peak]

Best class in darktide imo

Here I am again

[arctic rampart]

its either arbit or ogryn, and its not close? did you try them?

[muted peak]

Yeah I did

[arctic rampart]

maybe vet is best class for you. its my fav too but its far behind

[arctic rampart]

T.dmg (Maniac) / R.crit chance

Dum Dum

Deathspitter / Infernus ``` from the guide

[muted peak]

Nothing feels better than unloading my lasgun into specials and charging into horde with chainaxe

Nothing could replicate that feeling

I feel at home with vet

[arctic rampart]

same thing but on zealot?

[muted peak]

No

I don't like zealot

[opal crag]

What about zealot recon lasgun ?

[tame lodge]

Recon is arguably not worth running on zealot

Unless you want bootleg flamer

[faint beacon]

Longer ranged flamer

Only if you’re playing Piety

[languid prawn]

whats the best mark for the recon lasgun?

[arctic rampart]

fastest

one fo the non-fastest does 1 extra cleave on horde, so if you wanna use it for horde shooting maybe not fastest there. but the fast firing one is best IMO

[barren girder]

assuming thisd go even harder if they removed taxe cleave cap huh

[arctic rampart]

Accatran ∙ Mk XII -- thats the fast one

Accatran ∙ Mk XIV -- that one is cleave one? (let me know if I'm wrong)

u can hipfire the fast one which makes it fun to slide with it

[barren girder]

the way ive had the recon mks explained to me is xiv is the one with cleave if you just wanna unload into hordes, xii is if you wanna run infernus with crit for fast applications, vic for reliable general use with good ammo econ

if you arent looking to fire into hordes theres a case to be made for vic over xiv since the dps isn't that different

xiv just chews through more ammo per shot

[languid prawn]

interesting

[barren girder]

granted though i dont think ive ever run vic

[languid prawn]

mainly looking for the best one to kill ranged/ monstrosities

[tropic notch]

No it wouldn’t apparently mk4 is the best tac axe smile ||yes it would if cleave was uncapped it would be amazing ||

[barren girder]

oh

prolly xii with infernus dumdum then

[arctic rampart]

T.dmg (Maniac) / R.crit chance

Dum Dum

Deathspitter / Infernus ``` from the guide.  I like infernus for boss damage personally

[barren girder]

im assuming youd have to run it WS side of the tree for all the crit stuff tho?

i mostly run recon las on psyker now lmao

[muted peak]

So guys I can't aim much usually in this game, what lasgun can I use for myself

[barren girder]

god i wish it was tbh

shit's fun but i can't justify it over fgs

maybe i just use it on zealot but then again, relic blade

[arctic rampart]

u dont need shock tropper on mk12 in mealstrom or less. its ammo is fine IMO.

[hollow ibex]

VI for sweats. XII for casuals

[arctic rampart]

maybe for like no ammo missions but then you want hellbore anyway

[barren girder]

also crusher, although i wouldnt be surprised if arbites uses crusher way better than zealot now

[tropic notch]

Also That guide is outdated path can link you the updated guide or screenshots of it

[hollow ibex]

Recon las lol

No headshots needed

[barren girder]

would VIc still be built on infernus? i actually dunno which builds utilize that mark

i tried it on my weapon spec vet with combat axe and it didnt feel as good as the xiv

maybe im missin something

[hollow ibex]

Yeah

[barren girder]

....not that it matters i dont think i can play anything other than helbore and double barrel now lmfao

[hollow ibex]

Recon las isn’t really used with WS anyways

[barren girder]

would VIc be better on gunker too then? or does that have so much crit that XII justifies itself?

[hollow ibex]

No real synergies

[barren girder]

oh

[hollow ibex]

Yeah

[barren girder]

yeah to the former part of the question or the latter LOL

[hollow ibex]

VI is generally better as a gun

Just overall

XII wins for the memes

[barren girder]

even with boss dps? huh

[hollow ibex]

And if you are purely using it as an Infernus stick

[barren girder]

OHHHH gotcha

[hollow ibex]

Ie stack 12 burn

Stop immediately

Switch to melee weapons

[muted peak]

I tried recon and it seems like low damage is making me waste bullets

[barren girder]

yeah i think thats what most gunker builds i see do

[hollow ibex]

If you plan to just hold down lmb, Vi is actually a bit better

[muted peak]

I tried the low damage but freqent shooting lasgun and its decent for now

[barren girder]

i should give it a shot then hm

[hollow ibex]

You get a lot of bullets and Infernus is very powerful

[barren girder]

bc i notice on gunker i end up mostly just assailing specials

[muted peak]

vi?

[barren girder]

quick burst for infernus on some of them

then hold lmb on boss

[hollow ibex]

VIc recon las

[muted peak]

hm

gotta look

[hollow ibex]

Nothing wrong with that

Assail has good cleave

Infinite ammo

Tracks the cursor

[barren girder]

yeah

i'll give vic a shot next time i bubble knight/gaze

[hollow ibex]

I mainly like VIc for the faster reload and the fact that it doesn’t slow you down when you shoot

[sonic pecan]

did we get veteran buffs yet?

[hearty panther]

Fast reload tech also very satisfying

[hollow ibex]

Technically there’s reload techs but I could never pull that shit off in a real game

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/superman-goodnight-nightcap-drink-drinking-gif-5098630

[sonic pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/ponke-ponkesol-monke-monkey-bury-gif-3251502861642392352

[muted peak]

I just tried mark 12 now

but it has the same amount of ammo as my lasgun?

and even lower?

[tacit sonnet]

lasgun uses more ammo per shot

[muted peak]

how

[unreal nova]

Different use case.

[hollow ibex]

I don’t think it’ll beat Ilas in terms of ammo economy

But it’s still very good

While taking no effort to use

[muted peak]

Yeah that's why I was using it

[hollow ibex]

Also Infernus will save you ammo

Just let things burn to death

[muted peak]

what is infernus?

blessing?

[hollow ibex]

Yeah

[muted peak]

alr

looks like mark 2b is still the best for me

[unreal nova]

That's like telling people to let things bleed out. And then get KSed

[hollow ibex]

Eh idc personally

Most of the time I shoot until the things dead

But burn still helps with saving a shot or three in the use case too

[unreal nova]

True. I just hate how everything for vet is like on kill.

[languid prawn]

there is no mark VI

do u mean the Vlc?

[hollow ibex]

Yeah

[languid prawn]

gotcha thx

damn that thing has no ammo

[past stratus]

Sometimes I look at Gloryhunter for stuff like the Zarona and think, that would be nice. But then I remember that Vet is either full toughness or zero toughness, no in between 😔

[arctic rampart]

gloryhunter can be good to share toughness but f that spec

[narrow widget]

full toughness or dead

[past stratus]

yeah it's not worth it and Vet doesn't have enough damage resistance to lose toughness slowly. Any hit is all your toughness or half of it

I hope FS scraps Infiltrator and gives us a melee ability or even just some defensive nodes to go with the WS playstyle

[narrow widget]

give me grail knight ult or give me death

[tropic notch]

Give vet second wind

[narrow widget]

give vet free stimms to go along with his free nades

[tropic notch]

Doesn’t vet have insane dodges

[past stratus]

I am speaking it into existence, FS scraps Exe Stance and Infiltrator then gives Veteran the 40k version of Disengage from Ranger Veteran. Then the third ability is something to do with melee and we can finally be the all rounder that they seem to want us to be.

[tropic notch]

@tall torrent what’s vets dodge profile again?

[past stratus]

isn't it dogshit?

[tropic notch]

No it’s good

[past stratus]

I know it has one of the worst dodge linger together with Psyker

[honest quiver]

how is this still an issue

[faint beacon]

Always has been

[ionic trail]

Opening Salvo seems to be kind of hit or miss.

how does this talent interact with shotguns and their per-slug reloads, does anyone know?

does it only proc on a Full reload or does it have a synergy with reloading the shotgun one shot at a time?

[honest quiver]

how is it still an issue

was the question i asked

lemme check opening salvo rq

[ionic trail]

Opening Salvo doesn't treat Shotguns any differently, their per-round reload doesn't change how it works. It's based on the actual rounds in the gun rather than actually reloading, for any wandering user searching this channel.

i've seen others ask this question and never get an answer, so there you go.

realized i was being a dumbass and could just swap to it real quick

[arctic rampart]

I Must be lucky I dont think I've ever seen that somehow

[honest quiver]

this is what i've got

[honest quiver]

i think it happens if the game's been running for a while maybe

[ionic trail]

yep yep. i was having a skill issue reading that on my side too and wasn't sure if "after a reload" actually mechanically meant anything

doesn't look like it does!

[arctic rampart]

ohh ok. I dont really play more than 2 hours at a time

maybe if u leave it running or something?

[honest quiver]

no i just have long sessions

[ionic trail]

do you have altered launch options to give it a larger memory heap??

[arctic rampart]

no

[honest quiver]

i put hell's kitchen on my second monitor and watch in between loading screens

[ionic trail]

i used to get memory crashes (probably edue to mods tbh) until I added a memory heap command to mine

now it's just regular crashes because my game is suffering under the weight

[arctic rampart]

does it give it more heap if you have 64gb of ram

[ionic trail]

i'm not sure, tbh.

my understanding is 64 bit is supposed to not have that problem, but... for whatever reason darktide is still limited??

honestly I know as much as you do beyond that it seems there is a limit, and this command "helps".

not really sure if it's because of mods tho, like if you're vanilla i'm probably talking out of my ass

[honest quiver]

stingray engine so good

[arctic rampart]

I have a lot of UI mods so probably not that

[ionic trail]

--lua-heap-mb-size 2048

it's this, either way.

i added this to my launch options and my memory crashes stopped a while ago

[honest quiver]

i'll give that a shot

thank you for being helpful

[ionic trail]

looks like it increases it to 2GB

[arctic rampart]

--give-tesla-root/c/windows/system32

[ionic trail]

i hope it helps, i can't be sure if it will but

it's better than not having any leads right?

[honest quiver]

i think reading comprehension is becoming a problem with people online

it's like most people skip the second or third word in a sentence

[arctic rampart]

thats a global thing for zoomers

[honest quiver]

it's not even a young people thing, boomers do it all the time

maybe it's just americans

[arctic rampart]

nope its definitely not

includes americans and at least europe and canada

[tall torrent]

Still here

[tall torrent]

2.5m
0.85s reset

This is power sword VI
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1389421676915195914/Screencast_20250630_214427.mp4?ex=686c7845&is=686b26c5&hm=97bb0290b1515d9427f03b5af63d85dcc7a01bcb723ff4fec431e0ca4c0c4a14&

[karmic goblet]

Would love to see a sniper lasgun for veteran

And dumdum round drum shotgun

[hollow ibex]

That’s helbore tho

[karmic goblet]

But it doesn't have a scope

it's not the same

😭

Darktide attachment system would be cool actually instead

Different scopes

Different stocks for movement speed

[sonic pecan]

Basically helbore. Also, most maps especially high havoc and Maelstrom are too chaotic for sniping through a magnified scope. It would be super situational, especially if there is a delay between shots.

Melta and hellguns would be more effective for huge packs and waves of armored shit.

[karmic goblet]

Melta gun would be cool

[hollow ibex]

Unless it’s like the Ilas sight, scopes would prob hurt more than they help on DT maps

[heavy rover]

yeah, I feel like the infantry las sight would be just right for the helbore

[mortal aspen]

what's the melee combo for carapace with mk7 taxe?

[hollow ibex]

It’s very complicated

LLLLLLLLLLL

[mortal aspen]

riiight

well that's what I've been doing

and it feels awful xdd

[hollow ibex]

Hmm idr the dps numbers I got for crushers but should be respectable

On mk7

Obviously will depend on talents too

[mortal aspen]

well, respectable maybe, but very slow

compared to arby shmield it's xdd

probably won't take it into CIVI again

it was miserable

[hollow ibex]

I think I get around 1400 dps for arbi shield

Vet Taxe is prob going to be very talent dependent

Vet melee is fucking sad without talents

[mortal aspen]

this is my setup currently

taxe + db

I do have a few melee talents

[viscid sigil]

taxe more like tax

[hollow ibex]

Rending and ogryn damage would help a lot but yeah

Rip taxes

[mortal aspen]

it's still good vs everything else and very mobile

but not for civi, nope

[hollow ibex]

Yeah CIVI is its own beast

Fun tho

Until a psyker shows up

[summer compass]

Hello veterans what sorts of weapons are we using for crushers these days

[calm shard]

downside of off meta builds in havoc

people point fingers at you for wipes even if they weren't your fault

this was final toll, encroaching garden H40

we wiped because an arbites, ogryn, and zealot couldn't CC a mixed horde

as I was sniping purple enemies out of it

clutch attempt by arbites was going well but he couldn't solo a burgle as he ran out of ammo

[sonic kayak]

Not your fault when they can't play without a crutch

[calm shard]

I died because I admittedly fucked up and got cornered by flamers

[sonic kayak]

[safe kestrel]

The prose of many tragic tales

ITS THE BOSS! EVERYONE STOP EVERYTHING YOURE DOING AND ONLY LOOK AT THE BOSS

(Wait there are too bosses? What do I do now?)

[tropic notch]

No out for blood

[sonic pecan]

spam rumbler shots obviously, I dont care if you're a zealot, or an arbites, or a psyker, you spam those goddamn rumbler shots

[tropic notch]

Tbh I just don’t like how exe stance works but it is good Ive seen it used in amazing ways

[mortal aspen]

is it better than confirmed kill?

confirmed kill stacks with itself afaik

for that passive ticking toughness

[tropic notch]

@mortal aspen think of out for blood as confirmed kill but on everything

[mortal aspen]

yeah, but wtihout toughness\s

[tropic notch]

Even your nades and ranged weapon

[tropic notch]

Huh

[sonic pecan]

Played vet after finishing off arbites and messing around on ogryn and it feels so, so much worse. So anemic when dealing with stuff. Useful, but just lifeless.

[tropic notch]

For shedder nades yes it think of 30 enemies and all of them are 5% toughness

[mortal aspen]

does it work for when they die from bleed?

[tall torrent]

Every single kill

[mortal aspen]

alright

[tropic notch]

From any kill you get

[calm shard]

You can play exe stance and it's very thrilling :)

[calm shard]

exe stance vet is the best elite/boss killer in the entire game

except for like maybe rumblergryn

but that doesn't count

[tropic notch]

Also if you go that route you can grab a stam node or something else you like

[honest quiver]

this is really nice too

[tropic notch]

I chose one of those to help his terrible stam delay regen

[mortal aspen]

do you just not take close order drill?

[hollow ibex]

I usually don’t tbh

[honest quiver]

if you're having survivability issues i'd use it

[unreal nova]

That deletes like 95% of issues.

[mortal aspen]

I mean. Without it, the only source of toughness res is Iron Will, which is awesome ofc but

[sonic pecan]

I tried. Its Dark Souls but with nurgle.

[honest quiver]

COD also stacks multiplicatively with other DR buffs

[unreal nova]

Just don't get backstabbed, it's easy, right? Git gud and all that?

[past stratus]

I think it is just too stressful to play without VoC. Doable but stressful

[calm shard]

good

[hollow ibex]

In auric it’s aight without VOC

I’m not good enough in havoc to run ES

[tropic notch]

I don’t take any of the red nodes

[honest quiver]

[tropic notch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d51275b-f9c4-4494-9b88-bfafbbbf4981/terrible-vet-build my build is very similar to yours @mortal aspen

[mortal aspen]

it's similar because I stole it and modified it

xdd

[sonic pecan]

terrible build

[mortal aspen]

I refuse to run power sword

[tropic notch]

Weapons that utilize push attacks really want that stam node

[mortal aspen]

anti-fun weapon

[tropic notch]

Use knife

Combat axe

Tac axe

Uh

Shovel

[sonic pecan]

tacaxe is the only answer, if you dont have carpal tunnel you're playing vet and probably all of darktide wrong

[mortal aspen]

knife, caxe and taxe are all fun to me

[tropic notch]

I play on controller and the tac axe feels so natural

[honest quiver]

speaking of carpal tunnel i need to get an ergo mouse or something soon

my shit's not hurting yet but i'm not gonna wait until it starts

[sonic pecan]

use a touchpad, coward

[tropic notch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1389426055047020564/tacaxefunny.mp4?ex=6877b119&is=68765f99&hm=09a88d49dc4d63d171d751900dc13f46581f9e247f70871d74f017f2a1db640e&

[honest quiver]

um actually im using motion controls idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

immersive darktide with the wii remote and nunchuk

[mortal aspen]

I was thinking: "damn, how is he killing them so fast"
and then I realized you're playing zealot

[tropic notch]

Zealot is my main

[honest quiver]

perc zealot

[tropic notch]

Psyker used to be my main tho

[sonic pecan]

Space Marine DLC $299 coming soon

solo havoc 40 in 6 minutes

[tropic notch]

Off a tac axe cart

[honest quiver]

i am way too attached to relic blade

me like the funny lightning

[tropic notch]

Knife and tac axe definitely need that stam node

[honest quiver]

for sure

get a +3 curio too if you're running those

[tropic notch]

Too reliant on pa

[mortal aspen]

is the pa that good?

I do use it a lot

[unreal nova]

This is me when M&K gaming. My left wrist hates me.

[mortal aspen]

but also heavy-light loop

[unreal nova]

Is the hand on the keyboard btw.

[tropic notch]

On tac axe and knife absolutely

[tropic notch]

If you watched the vid I sent I’m only using the pa into heavy

[tropic notch]

I can’t believe you’re stealing terrible builds