veteran-class

[hollow ibex]

relic blade is a beast

[unreal nova]

Unpowered PS is a pool noodle for a reason.

[barren girder]

i gave it a shot a bit and liked it, then i leveled my psyker and ended up loving fgs more 💀

[past stratus]

I think the PS is just annoying to play, I wish they buffed the powered down version to at least be good at cutting little pox walkers

[unreal nova]

Unless you are playing like... uhh... malice?

[hollow ibex]

honestly i think RB > FGS

[civic apex]

Try fgs w/ plasma gun and fotf

[past stratus]

I don't mind if the unpowered version can't deal with armor or elites but it should be at least able to deal with pox walkers

[narrow widget]

I'm moonlight greatswording rn
got my guiding moonlight fr fr

[unreal nova]

It's like 3-5 hits on auric from memory.

[civic apex]

Psyker tbh feels the worst to play

[unreal nova]

The joke is.. L1 L2 L3 L4.

[barren girder]

i mean, probably. the special waves just feels nice, and the audio effect when you have a charge is satisfying

[unreal nova]

So unless you are hitting them after the first 3 hits... LUL.

[past stratus]

yeah it is a pain, just make it cut pox walkers so I don't need to power that shit up all the time

[unreal nova]

And PA is a stamina cost on the char with absolutely atrocious stamina delay.

[civic apex]

I don’t have the confidence or patience to run fgs melee in h40

I literally played psyker yesterday and some arb dumped twins on me

[unreal nova]

Is same as Psyker.

[hollow ibex]

its fucking insane that arb gets the same stam delay as psyker lol

[unreal nova]

Though, you know how psykers straight up non-exist in a hit.

[hollow ibex]

i mean then again

[civic apex]

And then the team called him the goat b/c he killed the twins after I got them to twenty % and I died

[hollow ibex]

the dev team okay'ed newgryn

[narrow widget]

for the low low price of

how many talent points was it

[hollow ibex]

so anynthing's possible

[unreal nova]

True solo with that feels like just cheating so eh.

[unreal forge]

I think they'll probably do this for every class eventually

[unreal nova]

2, but the fact you gotta path to it...

You need a Keystoneless onslaught recon build.

[unreal forge]

the idea was to spread base stats as operative modules but now they just have them as the base stats themselves

[hollow ibex]

the power creep is real

[unreal nova]

The only build you can take that paths close enough where if you can find 2 points to use them.

[unreal forge]

truly the end of the world for stamina not to feel like shit on Vet

[narrow widget]

cripple vet he should have a 3s delay

[civic apex]

Yeah that’s balanced, on par with arb

I’ve seen so many veteran h40 solos

[gilded rock]

LISTEN IT'S NOT LIKE THE OTHERS

[narrow widget]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[gilded rock]

https://tenor.com/view/die-spongebob-meme-gif-754776035690869996

[civic apex]

Zealot is the strongest because it can solo one map on the hardest difficulty in 15 minutes, so nerf zealot hehehehe

I’m struggling to find the h40 solos on yt tbh

Ah

Very cool

I’ve only seen her stuff on yt

[unreal nova]

Very Slaaneshi.

[civic apex]

Mmmm offline dhs so fun

[civic apex]

Idk what that means

Do I need to do like a non stealth h40 true solo >1hr h40 completion?

[narrow widget]

no bitches

[warm schooner]

nice

[civic apex]

I mean I could archivum cheese w/o that

[narrow widget]

no bubble blowing babies

[civic apex]

Literally have only played for a few months

First tide game

I just want to see their content

I don’t really care about showing off my stuff

[unreal nova]

I mean the mods Lilian uses. Turns the game into something that looks like one is high.

[civic apex]

Are there videos unlisted or are they just very small channels?

Anything good to watch?

Ik pretty much most public stuff I think

Like all the stuff you mentioned earlier ik abt

No shroud no archivum and none of the weapons listed?

No speedrun either?

That’s wild

So like they just do handicapped archivum speed runs?

What kind of completions do these people have?

Was it still a sycorax speedrun?

These are all h40 right?

I mean they’d be cool to watch but if that’s it then the discord is kinda anti-climatic if it’s just sycorax

Lame

[warm schooner]

right now

[unreal forge]

is this the illuminati of darktide working in the shadows to get everything nerfed

[civic apex]

I would just do mine with ts mod

[civic apex]

Just sycorax players

Relay I think

Relay station

It’s just weird to not fight anything

I mean I guess I can work on my shroud gameplay for that

That’s the kind of content I was expecting

[unreal forge]

Reginald playing Sycorax to prove Arby and Ogryn are bad and almost wiping in their successful try (first out of 20)

[civic apex]

Lol

I like ledge cheesing

Like unhealthy levels

I don’t like battery solos w/o stealth tbh

[nimble wadi]

Thank god pus hardened is gone

Shit is cursed especially for vet

[civic apex]

Pus hardened w/ -65% ammo mmmmm

[unreal forge]

more I play with other ogryns and arbites the more I'm convinced these characters are only ever broken in people's dreams

[unreal nova]

Because you are rolling really bad players. I have watched arbies going down on Uprising when I was forced to do it. Also on Malice.

[unreal forge]

is the logic that seeing 1 good player on ogryn and arbites every 50 games means the class is broken or what

[unreal nova]

Oh, if you get 3 good arbies, you can go sleep and be ammo dispenser.

Not even joking.

[unreal forge]

this doesn't happen

[unreal nova]

Just need to run after them.

[unreal forge]

tank 4 bosses in an elevator sounds impressive until you realize that didn't happen

and if it were to be set up they'd die to 1 fire bomber

[unreal nova]

Oh yeah, that thing is hilarious.

Also, you can make them do like 20% less damage as well.

[civic apex]

I can make a video and solo 5 bosses in an elevator if you want

[unreal nova]

Do so, would be an entertaining watch for one.

[civic apex]

the whole thing will literally be an m1 macro hahaha

[unreal nova]

Especially if it's not by abusing Skitarius.

[civic apex]

i will have to post a link yes?

[civic apex]

what is skitarius

[unreal nova]

If you don't know... It's all good.

Keep swinging is fine.

[civic apex]

im debating using the broken elevator in excise vault hahahaha

[normal sparrow]

Instruction unclear got murdered by poxwalker

[unreal forge]

youre not invulnerable

[civic apex]

you're literally just holding shield over fire

[unreal nova]

Did you somehow exe stance and forgot to look behind you?

[civic apex]

and exhausting stam

[unreal forge]

i activated castigator's actually

you can see it in the buff bar

I disabled the visual effects

[unreal nova]

If it's barrel fire, they don't care.

Barrel fire just goes through everything.

[normal sparrow]

Not me

[unreal forge]

like yeah playing the psykhanium is fun and all but in an actual game there's more enemies

people like to say this a lot but in practice it's somehow not that simple

[civic apex]

and more dr

[unreal forge]

can you show the video of those guys killing a boss in an elevator

or 4 bosses rather

[unreal nova]

It's like you can play auric and 0 damage taken run... And your teammates are more dangerous to your HP than anything else. At 300 ping

[civic apex]

yeah working on it

i will have to compress it which will take abt 20 min

[atomic void]

no class is carrying a bad player

its literally that simple

[unreal forge]

whatttt

but everyone is telling me that undeserving players are flooding havoc 40 because of Arbites

[normal sparrow]

I posted it in other server ill ping you there
More like solo auric than 3 man

[ember nest]

are u shoutmaxxing

[atomic void]

lol that waas only during the bug

[unreal forge]

lol no

[atomic void]

then they're overexaggerating

[unreal forge]

Arbites is so strong and brainless that it's a walking simulator

anyone can do it dude

[atomic void]

that's a meme

[unreal forge]

Reginald said so

[atomic void]

no he did not

im watching the vid lol

[unreal nova]

Stop traumatising me... My teammates did to me all the damage I took on a run before...

[atomic void]

ogryn/arbi/any overtuned build is busted in the hands of a player who already knows what he's doing

[ember nest]

reginald basically showed "if you ignore everything and bumrush the boss you can kinda sorta beat the most optimal modifiers on the most optimal map using 2 arbs 2 orgyrns pretty fast"

[atomic void]

someone who's terrible wont be able to do shit

[civic apex]

Am i doing the 5 bosses as all plogryn w/ 40 modifiers?

[atomic void]

but at the same time it takes LESS EFFORT to do things

which is true

[unreal forge]

Anyone can do what these players with a combined 10k hours in Darktide did

[civic apex]

5 chaos spawns will not work in an elevator

[atomic void]

i played so much arbi i ate shit on other classes and had to readjust

u just get away with so much bullshit

i dont need a funny youtuber to tell me what i can feel myself

[atomic void]

and what i feel is that while the class is fun as fuck, the toughness gen is absurd

[unreal forge]

I don't feel the same problem

[atomic void]

why tf im regaining toughness for HITTING PEOPLE

that's like making money irl for breathing

[ember nest]

isn't that how melee works

am I missing smth

[unreal forge]

Veteran began to feel like shit to me long before Arbites. Arbites releasing just reinforces the idea that Veteran feels like shit

[narrow widget]

ts is like tiktok but instead of my attention spam decreasing it's my skill 💔 💔 💔

[unreal forge]

so I switched to Ogryn because I heard there was build variety with that class

[hollow ibex]

vet actually has to kill things lol

arbi just needs to gently tap a poxxer on the head

[atomic void]

on other classes u have to kill things

[ember nest]

me on psyker generating toughness by wigglign my hands

[unreal forge]

why should it have a target cap

[hollow ibex]

rumbler is honestly the most fucking aids thing in the game

[ember nest]

me on ogryn aiming

(why doesn't vet have the aim for toughness perk???)

[hollow ibex]

aurics before arbi came out was insufferable

[atomic void]

i really hate the notion that anyone with criticism is just being fed by youtubers
i dont give a fk about the numbers game and all the meta crap
i can clearly form an opinion from me no lifing this game

[unreal forge]

do you expect to see enemies inside of a blast radius not get affected by the explosion?

[hollow ibex]

just a bunch of rumblergryn shitters

[narrow widget]

oh boy I can't wait to fight enemies today
the humble rumbler:

[hollow ibex]

turning off the fucking game

[unreal forge]

I think there's better ways to balance the Rumbler than an arbitrary target cap

[unreal nova]

I went AFK again. 0.1FPS is fun.

[ember nest]

naw man I've been no lifing zel because reli blade funni and most of my gameplay si diving into anything and swinging

and getting toughness from it regardless

[unreal forge]

I was under the impression that explosives in this game work with movie rules

[atomic void]

this is in reference to stuff like rumbler which is true

[unreal forge]

they don't have shrapnel, they just have a damaging smoke cloud

[unreal nova]

Most Rumblergryns take boxes, so...............

[atomic void]

this is still my main playstyle its pure adernaline rush

and peak

[narrow widget]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-light-mode-discord-light-mode-cs-go-counter-strike-gif-25596696

[unreal forge]

we should make the player have to do a memory puzzle minigame every time they fire a weapon, so that their kills truly become deserved and not free and not something everyone can do

[hollow ibex]

rumbler is the peak example of how fucked fatshart balance is rn

[unreal forge]

"rn"

[ember nest]

rumbler is just annoying because explosions everywhere making me lag

[unreal forge]

people have been saying this since forever

[atomic void]

im really not sure what's your endgame always taking every argument in bad faith

[unreal forge]

the game could be perfectly objectively balanced somehow and I would still see every chat in this server cry about shovel being overpowered because it can hit more than 3 enemies or something

[hollow ibex]

rumbler only reached its extremely broken state relatively recently

[unreal nova]

Has been since Oggy rework and Mortis 'nade regen teaching Oggies to take boxes.

[ember nest]

I like bringing the rumbler but 90% of the time I'm using branx on oggy isntead

[narrow widget]

"wow I wonder what's making me lag so much"
the humble grenade box:

[atomic void]

this is straight up not a thing that can possibly happen

[unreal forge]

I'm referring to Fatshart balance being fucked, not Rumbler

[unreal forge]

It will happen

[warm schooner]

why even respond to him, his schtick is pretty obvious

[ember nest]

yes but also lucky shot proccing 4 times and now the crusher is about to explode 4 times

[atomic void]

cause im a dumbass who has to argue on the internet with epople i dont know

[unreal forge]

The nerfcreep will live on

[hollow ibex]

i mean some imbalance is fine

but the weimar republics level of inflation is getting ridiculous

[narrow widget]

[unreal forge]

youtubers and discord nolifers will be sure to flood the channels about any imbalance

[ember nest]

i don't particularly care abt everything being "equal"

[unreal forge]

and inflate it to absolutely overblown levels

[ember nest]

I do care about everything exploding because it annoys me

I got arb and did all the penances

but like arb don't have no drip so I started playing other rhings

[hollow ibex]

keep dreaming, sweet prince

[unreal forge]

that would be overpowered and I would be sure to cry in every channel about this

[atomic void]

anyway im literally watching the reginald mister e stuff and they legit arent trying to nerf the fun out of the game
they want to tone down outliers that insta delete threats, bring underperformers up so use more thna 5 weapons per class and make the game more skill based so u dont faceroll everything

god forbid i have to learn a game mechanically

[narrow widget]

infiltrate

[atomic void]

the absolute horror

[hollow ibex]

hard to trust mr. e given his past history

[atomic void]

dont take away my infintie cleave weapon u anti fun elitist!!!

[unreal forge]

I'm looking at the bigger picture, with my third eye

[ember nest]

question: How does one nerf purg staff without it being basically shot in the dick

[barren girder]

https://tenor.com/view/daniel-bryan-daniel-bryan-no-wwe-gif-13092655

[atomic void]

he's a solid more casual outlook on things to reginald's super sweat take so it ends up being good

[hollow ibex]

start by removing blaze away. easy.

[atomic void]

ying and yang

[unreal forge]

It starts small and then it ends with every weapon being removed because killing enemies trivializes the game since it removes the interaction you would have with that enemy if it didn't die instead

[unreal forge]

This is the way it will be

[barren girder]

the darktide youtubers will be sent to fun > balance gulags until sales improve

stop resisting

[unreal forge]

holy fucking based

[narrow widget]

holy slippery slope vro

[barren girder]

yea i want to be able to do havoc 40 without trying

personally i think psyker should be able to create primarchs to play the game for me

[unreal forge]

that's not fun though

[atomic void]

but that is not what they're trying to do
reginald who u seem to have a hate boner for is a big fan of making everything cool as fuck and feel epic to use

[unreal forge]

you lost the point of the argument there

[barren girder]

it is for me

[ember nest]

I think we should remove the ogryn nuke because it kills the things I'm trying to kill

[unreal forge]

I'm salty that he's trying to nerf the Mk3 Exterminator when it's already a dogshit weapon

[barren girder]

i think fatshark should make a dual wield rumbler JUST for me

[atomic void]

im gonna tell u the truth, u made up demons in your head and you're fighting them

[barren girder]

and it's belt fed and not single shot

you know what fuck it

third rumbler between the legs

[unreal nova]

Is the boxes that LAG to heck though, even if no enemies. IDK how they coded it.

[unreal forge]

True

[narrow widget]

I think we should remove vet from the game he's taking kills away from my arby

[barren girder]

call it the GENETIC JACKHAMMER

[atomic void]

his FINAL take on the shotty is that he's undecided and needs to do more testing

so lets not burn his house down yet

[unreal forge]

how is that his final take when in the same line you said he has yet to form a final take

[atomic void]

also remember that fatfish does not give a flying fk about what anyone says and they'll do their hing

[barren girder]

darktide discord when reginald says anything

[unreal forge]

that's also not even the narrative he paraded around

[ember nest]

we should remove vet because he has a useful ability and it's stunning stuff, and since there's more enemies, it stuns more stuff, so

[atomic void]

its just raiva lmao

[barren girder]

i voted for him

this is what i voted for 👍

darktide community representative

[unreal forge]

isn't this the guy that wrote Kanye's latest albums

[barren girder]

SOMEHOW YEA

[past stratus]

Raiva is anger in Portuguese so maybe it is just thematic

[barren girder]

i didnt know he was the same guy in this meme till much later LMAO

[unreal forge]

I have not been angry, idk why u insist that I am

[past stratus]

successful roleplay if thats the case

[unreal forge]

my face hurts from smiling in fact

[barren girder]

wait is raiva actually anger in portuguese

thats a sick name i ccant lie

[atomic void]

this is fair but besides the point, the point is they're not trying to take all your fun away

[narrow widget]

another day another successful ragebait
good job agent 47

[unreal forge]

no one here is angry

[civic apex]

so im struggling with the 6 plogryns, but i literally just got launched to the sky box and then died to fall dmg

[ember nest]

are there any darktubers who have good psyker guides

[unreal forge]

heh I could do it easily

[ember nest]

[narrow widget]

I watch meowbeep but I don't think he does guides

[atomic void]

i actually really like what they were talking about regarding enimies not folding within 1 milisceonds and having more attacks, phases and stuff to worry about

[unreal nova]

That would also be funni to watch, not gonna lie.

[unreal forge]

I think you just have a skill issue because honestly I never have a problem soloing 6 pogryns as the absurdly broken Adeptus Arbites dog tamer class, which is so world-shattering broken

[civic apex]

oh im doing it on ogryn

[civic apex]

i have it recorded

[barren girder]

ah, elden tide

[unreal nova]

Oggy moon landing soontm?

[unreal forge]

I kneel

[narrow widget]

hold on lemme get my buffs up before we start

[barren girder]

eat crab

[past stratus]

I've been listening to this podcast with Reginald and it is literally a nothing burger, literally repeating things we talk about here daily

[atomic void]

sounds goofy but imagine if dork idea of difficulty wasnt spamming gazillion things at you and instead u actually had to counter enemy behaviors who get to stay on screen for more than 5 seconds

[barren girder]

tbh im not sure i even see arbites as op anymore after they fixed the bug

i think it just builds bad habits from the survivability

[atomic void]

bring back scab operator

[past stratus]

there is no "lets nerf everything and end fun" propaganda

[atomic void]

radio operator

[unreal forge]

swedish fish heed my pleas

• nerf voice of command
• nerf plasma gun
• do not buff veteran
• do not give veteran a new weapon (promised like 7 months ago)
• rework zealot

[atomic void]

my dude got pulled from the game after that 1 event

felt like a test run for something coming

[narrow widget]

9 months iirc

[unreal forge]

There is

[barren girder]

alas the curse of youtubing (clickbait) misconstrues their takes

[ember nest]

they should give him a hotshot lasgun that when you aim it, eats more ammo but gets cleave

[unreal forge]

It hides behind the veil of "Darktide is unplayable and unhealthy" balance discussions

[ember nest]

and has dogshit mobility

can't dodge while firing

[barren girder]

t b h if people want crazy fun op shit im always confused why they dont just play roguelikes

[ember nest]

or has tiny dodges idk

[barren girder]

ROR2 runs are crack

[ember nest]

if ppl want crazy op they go play like warframe or smth

[atomic void]

ROR2 palyers casually frying thier PCs with gazillion screen effects

[narrow widget]

so much crack in fact that my old laptop blue screened and wouldn't turn back on

[unreal forge]

ROR2 all damage is exponential

not sure why they thought that was a good idea

[ember nest]

I like to hit the spinny clouds with the funny bird and watch the immortal machine explode

[barren girder]

it's so fucking funny tho

[past stratus]

you're boxing with the shadows my guy, they have been discussing things that people talk about in this discord. Being extremely careful with their wording to the point where I think they have fatshark breathing down their neck behind the scenes

[atomic void]

lol yeah if anything they're trying super hard NOT to sound like they wanna nuke something

[past stratus]

the tone of this conversation this whole time has been "arbi and ogryn are strong but we should buff other classes first before we do anything drastic about them"

[civic apex]

damn i almost had it

[atomic void]

the only harsh stance they took is reginald saying cdr is bad

that's it

[civic apex]

i actually am learning a few things lol

[atomic void]

everything else is safe as fuck

[civic apex]

tactically launching myself

[unreal forge]

You're just attempting to gaslight me

[narrow widget]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-rocket-jump-team-fortress2-gif-25348191

[ember nest]

remember when ppl used to complain about the bolter being overshadowed by the revolver

I remember

[unreal forge]

they're only trying hard to not sound like this because in reality that's their feeling

otherwise they wouldn't have to attempt it

[atomic void]

my man are you a psychologist cause gah dayum

[unreal forge]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-familiar-with-my-credentials-credentials-dale-dale-gribble-king-of-the-hill-gif-8948206203900484566

[narrow widget]

go get it girlboss

[atomic void]

bro straight up makes up a problem then starts a ufc fight with it

[ember nest]

does exe stance give full toughness I cba to check

[atomic void]

commendable ngl

[unreal forge]

More gaslighting attempts

[unreal nova]

Barring the obscenely broken rumbler.

[unreal forge]

In the end, I will be right, as usual

[unreal nova]

It was never fixed.

[atomic void]

im the one being gaslit here man next thing you're gonna say the youtubers are gonna raise our rent and bills

[narrow widget]

https://tenor.com/view/itve1-itve-hl2-half-life-in-the-end-gif-26248969

[ember nest]

you need to like

calm down

[unreal forge]

Everyone told me I was a stupid chud when I said Cyberpunk 2077's launch was gonna be disastrous

[past stratus]

I don't think anyone can turn a blind eye to the Rumbler it is a little bit too stupid

[ember nest]

what

[unreal forge]

and I was right about that too

[ember nest]

how is that relevant to darktide

[unreal forge]

as I was about No Man's Sky

[atomic void]

nah the writing was on the wall after 10 billion delays

anyone who didnt see it is a blind fanboy
source: me a blind fanboy who ate shit

[ember nest]

I was right about the declining grasshopper population equating to a rise in polution

[unreal forge]

And yet everybody and their mothers told me I was wrong and that the delays had fixed it

Everybody was a blind fanboy

[ember nest]

therefore

[narrow widget]

what does this mean for the trout population

[ember nest]

we should buff plasma gun

[atomic void]

fanboyism is a hell of a drug but this is a different issue entirely anyway

[unreal forge]

I feel the same feeling in my gut and I trust it more than I do you

[ember nest]

I ask this shit to people in VCs when they change subjects

sometimes I get blindsided because they'll make a bullshit answer

[past stratus]

saying a triple A studio will flop a release in this decade is the coldest take in the universe

[atomic void]

raiva imma consult you when making real life choices if u got the sixth sense bro

[ember nest]

it is very silly

[unreal nova]

Is why I'm surprised it's been months untouched at all. No mentions of it even getting nerfed.

[atomic void]

tell me should i invest my savings in real estate or stocks

i need to know

[unreal forge]

Fatshark can

[unreal forge]

gold

[atomic void]

i already put a lot into gold

[sleek garden]

Put 1 million into black rock and help them monopolize American housing market

[ember nest]

my favourite thing abt rumbler is that you can tell when oggy don't have lucky shot because their ammo stays orange the whole mission

[past stratus]

well fatshark can shamelessly pretend it isn't there. I meant more the content creators

[unreal nova]

Oh yeah, they play malice. I forgot.

[civic apex]

Did it

[narrow widget]

nightsider (Jesper Kyd)

[civic apex]

got the 6 plogryns

[atomic void]

instructions unclera: invested the rest of my money into the latest shitcoin and got rugpulled

[civic apex]

had to loop them though, so no elevator

[barren girder]

fatshark breathing down reg and mister e's necks:

[ember nest]

my favourite thing is darktide ppl finding out that when a thing damages more than one thing, it will do better when there's even more thing

[unreal nova]

Heh. Unless a vet exists to feed them ammo as well.

[unreal nova]

True.

[unreal forge]

Rumbler has too much ammo even without lucky shot

you don't need a Vet either

[past stratus]

yeah it took a lot of the interest I had in this podcast, it's too safe. I wanted some spicy takes

[ember nest]

I think I said last week taht it should go down to like 27 ammo and see what it's like there

[unreal forge]

games are winnable without the Rumbler AOE spam

[unreal forge]

but, it does have 27 ammo. wdym?

[unreal nova]

That makes you have even more ammo to spam.

[ember nest]

with the uh

the ammo talent

[unreal forge]

by this logic you don't need to spam it

[ember nest]

the max possible is liek 33 rn

[unreal forge]

okay

[ember nest]

and if they're doing lucky shot shenanigans they will have that

whatever takes it down to 27 max

[unreal forge]

I think they should just half its ammo

[ember nest]

do that number

[ember nest]

ah yes

the steve sinclair warframe approach of nuking things out of the meta

[unreal forge]

it wouldn't

[ember nest]

my favourite

[unreal forge]

you don't need to spam the Rumbler

[barren girder]

raiv whats ur pfp/banner? i cant tell if it's kurapika

[ember nest]

for lucky shot stuff it wouldn't

[unreal forge]

it is Kurapika, just like my pfp

[unreal forge]

We will do this to Arbites

[barren girder]

taste 🤌

[ember nest]

but for like...builds that just happen to also use the rumbler, it would

[ember nest]

lol

[barren cave]

is agri shotgun the best

[ember nest]

I'm all for toning things down and getting them into shape but when ppl start telling me they want to push shit into obscurity I stop listening
likewise for people who think others are all out to do that

[unreal forge]

if frags are S+++tier meta at 3-4, then I believe Rumbler is still S tier at half its ammo, which is essentially 13 even more powerful frags that are recharged by tin cans

and while being wielded by the Ogryn

[safe kestrel]

I had a premonition about a smoky abyss. Todd Howard materialized and said he’s been hired by fatshark to fix veteran

[atomic void]

u know what's the actual funny thing about this whole discussion
fatshark aint doing shieieieit
its like that meme with the guy talking to the wall

[unreal forge]

that's fine as well

[ember nest]

frags regen every 60 seconds assuming the vet build is a real vet build

and also stack silly things like knife debuffs

[unreal forge]

okay but you can get rumbler ammo from tin cans

clearly the problem people have with the Rumbler is that it is spammable

[unreal nova]

The important thing is fixing the forever +1 bug on it.

[unreal forge]

if regaining ammo is the problem then just increase the amount of ammo you get from tin cans for the Rumbler

[atomic void]

i wouldnt be surprised if they straight up just power creep tf out of everything even more and then the game just turns into full blown boom boom kaboom clown fiesta

[unreal forge]

if it got a lot of people in this discord to leave, that would be a good thing

[ember nest]

whar

do u think ppl would leave the discord because oggy needs to use other weapons

[barren girder]

welcome back death sentence one down

[unreal forge]

no, I'm referring to Cyber's comment

[atomic void]

why this discord
u think most people who are hyper fixaited on numbers on this game post here and not in their circles?

[unreal forge]

okay but Ogryn has Lucky Shot which is infinite ammo as long as he kills 8 poxwalkers

[narrow frost]

wanna see circles?

[unreal forge]

how is that worse than 5% chance to regen frags

[atomic void]

yes

i love circles

[past stratus]

if the game becomes boring I'll leave that's for sure

[ember nest]

it's not but that's 1 build

[unreal forge]

It is OP

[ember nest]

I can't tell what you want anymore man

weren't you just yapping about fearing these nerfs

[unreal forge]

No I was talking about the slippery slope of nerfing too much

[narrow frost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1392028579428040794/image.png?ex=68754b63&is=6873f9e3&hm=57c8c05e6d5688a455ae58b99a8dac344eadd6f767125a5acff73a342fc653f5&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[ember nest]

so...yes

[narrow frost]

havoc 40

easy

[ember nest]

you were yapping about fearing these nerfs

[atomic void]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-clinton-zero-okay-ok-cool-gif-16822140

[narrow frost]

also this

[unreal forge]

no don't try to put words into my mouth

[atomic void]

where do i sub to his onlygryns

[ember nest]

I will put them in your mouth boy

I will put them there

[unreal forge]

I just think most ideas to nerf Rumbler are fucking stupid

when the problem with it is that it is spammable

and simply nerfing the ammo count fixes that

[hollow ibex]

nah

it'll just make ogryns pick up more ammo

[unreal forge]

but noooo, we need to introduce a mathematically complex solution so your frames die even harder

[hollow ibex]

which makes the problem even worse

[unreal nova]

Yes, but the thing is that one weapon outclasses so much, it's ridiculous. And at least if they bothered to fix the explosion applying brittleness, it's a good start.

[hollow ibex]

the real issue is the interaction between rumbler and BLO

[unreal forge]

I fail to see how this is problematic

[hollow ibex]

uhh

one single fucker

taking up the entire map's ammo

is not problematic?

[unreal forge]

that's on him

that's not the weapon

[hollow ibex]

yes it is

[unreal forge]

you're missing the scope here.

[hollow ibex]

if you nerf the ammo

you make a bad problem even worse

and don't even address the fundamental issue

[unreal forge]

it's a player problem, not a Rumbler problem

you're missing the scope.

[unreal nova]

Raiva says all ammo is his anyway.

[hollow ibex]

alright, i'm not wasting time on this lmfao

clueless

[atomic void]

gunluggers already have a bad rep with vaccuming ammo

lets increase it 2x

[unreal forge]

Ah yes the Ogryn used up 10 times more ammo than he needed, it's obviously the Rumbler's fault...

[hollow ibex]

"the ammo is the real problem, not ogryns being able to fire rumbler at full auto"

[unreal forge]

trust me it was necessary to use 20 of my Rumbler shots to kill those few poxwalkers

[barren cave]

people are still playing pbb and twin achlys?

[safe kestrel]

Dawg are you an ogryn main?

[atomic void]

nah he just likes to say a lot of hyper inflamed stuff as le epic satire

[ember nest]

I don't think I've seen anyone on twin alchys other than for the penance that specifically requires you to shoot a shitload of bullets

[unreal nova]

Seen some, not as much though. Most ppl just abuse the broken as eff rumbler.

[ember nest]

this

[barren cave]

I used to play twin achlys, pbb and fnp in one build pre rework

[unreal forge]

Maybe you should just make your shots count

[unreal nova]

You get some running heavy stubber if they wanna be more rounded.

[barren cave]

i head that got nerfed though

[ember nest]

heavy alchys my beloved

[safe kestrel]

How long does it take to pull the rumbler out?

[unreal forge]

that's what reducing the ammo would do to good players. The bad players would just try to vacuum all the ammo

but that's entirely on the player

[ember nest]

that thing is efficient as fuck

[unreal forge]

not the ammo

[civic apex]

6 plogryns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VF8i2B3U3w

ogryn

[past stratus]

you know what is really cool? The Veteran class

remember veterans?

:D

[civic apex]

from the discussion earlier

i don't have the super launch clip in there sadly

[unreal nova]

That guy said it's trash. Either too slow or can't hit a barn long range.

[civic apex]

oh fuck

[unreal forge]

where's the bombers, gunners, poxwalkers, poxbursters, trappers?

[civic apex]

it has the dexter audio

[unreal nova]

Is the oggy going to space on there as well? XD

[civic apex]

i said 6 bosses

[unreal forge]

this situation doesn't happen in an actual game

[civic apex]

sadly not the big one

[ember nest]

who is "that guy"

[civic apex]

but i have the big one

[past stratus]

fatshark should buff veteran 200% that day every year

[civic apex]

i could format it and post it

[unreal forge]

monstrosities kill no one

it has always been like this

[hollow ibex]

looks fine to me!

[unreal forge]

what kills are specialists capitalizing on monstrosities existing

[unreal nova]

Raiva. Said HStubber is weak, can't hit long range or stupidly slow.

[ember nest]

whar

[unreal forge]

this design has been the standard for boss monsters since L4D

Fatshark has been doing this since Vermintide

[ember nest]

raiva did you say that

[safe kestrel]

I’ve seen people snipe with that

[ember nest]

were these words already in your mouth or did they get put there because you keep opening wide

[civic apex]

6 monstrosities should be something a bit deadly

[atomic void]

tell that to the players folding to captains broken buggy sword flurries

[unreal forge]

why?

[hollow ibex]

pretty sure raiva's just here to ragebait the entire channel

[atomic void]

or getting yeeted by plague ogryn rush, chaos spawn grab

[unreal nova]

I'm like, it's like, the best gun that isn't completely broken arse tier.

[ember nest]

to be fair, monstrosities are deagerous because of the shit around them, not because of them by themselves

[hollow ibex]

since syvat's offline rn

gotta take turns

[unreal forge]

show me where Fatshark ever planned this game's balanced around 6 monstrosities fighting you in an empty room

do you not see the fucking insanity that is to say

[safe kestrel]

Hey real shit I got outright killed by a bullshit explosion yesterday. Dude was getting back up on his feet then I’m dead

[unreal forge]

when there's a long line of regenerating final toll Reapers on Oubliette's sewers I don't think a HStubber Ogryn is gonna do much more than tickle them

[civic apex]

okay i guess that shows nothing about the class. i will have to solo 6 monstrosities simultaneously without accidentally killing the trappers or flamers with my rumbler

[ember nest]

why can captains oneshot you by dying

[unreal forge]

but of course

never account for this kind of situation

[civic apex]

you're gonna need a lot of plasma gun ammo for that

[unreal forge]

just play in the Psykhanium, it tells all the answers

[unreal forge]

Not really. But it can cleave enemies for one, so you can kill the pink enemies standing behind the meat walls.

[ember nest]

what weapon even solves "A long line of regenerating final toll reapers"

[unreal forge]

HStubber can't

[civic apex]

there are still 3 other players on a team

[unreal forge]

plasma gun

[unreal nova]

Is like trying to argue a wall. Watch as he pulls purple orange pus next.

[civic apex]

it takes 3 plasma gun shots to kill a reaper in h40

[unreal forge]

okay?

[faint beacon]

stealing that

[atomic void]

i like to do it when i have to sort out a boring ass fkn excel sheet and i need something to distract me
fuck my wagie life

[unreal forge]

Ahahaha you're right, I definitely noted a situation that never ever happens in a real game ever.

[ember nest]

[unreal forge]

Final toll, encroaching garden, Reapers and Gunners in the sewers of Magistratum Oubliette.

This never happened.

[ember nest]

do u have footage of this

[safe kestrel]

I’d assume teamwork

[ember nest]

can I see it

[unreal nova]

Or taking weapons to compensate for it?

[unreal forge]

yes

[ember nest]

yeah but like raiva said that a heavy stubber by itself can't do anything to a ton of regenerating enemies so like I wanna know what does

[past stratus]

where is that other dude that said that the plasma gun was trash because it couldn't one shot with body shots? We should have them argue here

[ember nest]

the fuck am I looking at

[past stratus]

longshot defender

deadshot lover

[barren cave]

whats a perfect block

[unreal nova]

I dunno man, is like purposly bringing shredder autopistol to scab melee only and expecting to shoot kill things.

[civic apex]

block within 300ms of attk

[ember nest]

"Do you have footage"

here is a single frame of literally nothing

[civic apex]

actually

you know what does deal with that reaper situation?

rumbler

[atomic void]

block like half a second before an attack lands and u get perfect block specific bonuses

[ember nest]

true it knocks them around

[civic apex]

it instakills

[ember nest]

what if they have the uh

[unreal forge]

plasma gun

[ember nest]

turn red thing

[past stratus]

I prefer every other weapon I have over the Plasma, I don't like how it plays but even in my noob brain I can see how broken it is atm

[unreal nova]

Matters not if ded.

[safe kestrel]

Realistic experience sometimes

[unreal forge]

duly noted

[past stratus]

I love me helbore, leveled 1 to 30 with it

😌

[ember nest]

does ES not reload ur gun anymore

[unreal forge]

wait nvm that video showed a no-no word

[ember nest]

why

[barren cave]

because fs hates you

[atomic void]

fuck i just realized its monday and not sunday

[ember nest]

???

[atomic void]

[unreal forge]

why do you think

[atomic void]

actual brainrot

[past stratus]

it's sunday silly

[unreal forge]

I've been talking about it this whole time

[ember nest]

You haven't

what

[unreal forge]

the same thing they want to do to Ogryn and Arbitrator

[past stratus]

6 minutes to monday yet

[ember nest]

you've been yapping abt ogryn rumbler

[unreal forge]

6 months from now you'll be asking "why can't they do that anymore?"

[ember nest]

https://tenor.com/view/meowskulls-fortnite-my-honest-reaction-my-honest-reaction-meme-meow-skulls-gif-12383551233374735816

are you okay

[unreal forge]

same way you're saking why ES doesn't reload your gun anymore

[ember nest]

do you have dain bramage

[unreal forge]

because youtubers and discordians cried TOO OVERPOWERED

like literally this proves my whole point

[civic apex]

my apologies, im just not good enough at the game to understand

[unreal forge]

the slippery slope is real

[ember nest]

I have never met you before today
I still have a leaf on my name

why would I know what you've been saying "this whole time"

[atomic void]

yeah they made tow super stacked trees so they can take them away later cause they're evil satan worshippers

friendly reminder that fatshark doesnt care about youtubers

👍

[unreal forge]

events like Reginald and Mr. E trying to "sensibly balance" the game are why Veteran is the way he is

[atomic void]

for better or worse

[unreal forge]

it's why ES is not seen as havoc viable

[ember nest]

I wonder what else got nerfed on vet

[unreal forge]

too much

[ember nest]

oh well rework one day

[atomic void]

orrrrrrr and hear me out on this u might not like it
fatshark dun goofed up with the tree just like they did on zealot, pre rework ogryn and pre rework psyker

[unreal forge]

and yet somehow... not enough

[atomic void]

wild and crazy i know

[unreal nova]

Guy is complaining about old meta where 3-4 oggies wave is uber scary where exe stance auto reload may be abit too good. Compared to now where 4 oggies is casual normal thing.

[ember nest]

raiva how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast today

[unreal forge]

I hope they nerf VOC and plasma gun before ever reworking Vet

Vet players don't suffer enough

[unreal nova]

I mean crushers.

[unreal forge]

Hungry as I was, I didn't eat breakfast today nor yesterday

enough of your dubious political remarks

[ember nest]

political

[safe kestrel]

Lmao really good faith commentary here

[atomic void]

S tier ragebaiter ngl

[unreal nova]

I dunno what's political about that.

Maybe he's an oggy main upset about ppl suggesting nerfs to oggy.

[safe kestrel]

Nah he/she gave up the game with that last comment

[unreal forge]

Veteran could have its talent tree removed and Veteran players would shout, "I think it's not enough yet."

they wouldn't shout actually. That's overpowered. My bad

[ember nest]

how do you come up with these

hypotheticals

[atomic void]

im telling you

[ember nest]

are the vet mains who want more nerfs to vet int he room with us right now

[atomic void]

make a problem then have a fight with the problem

[ember nest]

I could have sworn the people who are waiting for a rework chased them away

that's like most of the people who frequent this channel actually

[atomic void]

everyone and their mom want a rework

lol

[unreal forge]

I want Vet to be reworked to be weaker

[atomic void]

and the people who want golden toughness gone simply want it replaced with viable alterantives

[barren girder]

all the op shit feels worse at lower difficulties than high ones lmao

[ember nest]

I want to rub mayonnaise on my skin to see if it makes me into spiderman

[barren girder]

i just finished a damnation testing out 3a helbore and there were 2 rumblers

speaking of, im gonna have to alternate between the two

[ember nest]

unfortunately, I can't, because them (The youtubers) say I can't

[barren girder]

idk if i like the 3a or the 4

[safe kestrel]

Look l understand the point of rumbler and appreciate how most people with skill will tend to use it, but no class in the game should have free rein to ride the match on ranged only… unless there’s a trade off for that. Ahem

[ember nest]

we should give the vet a talent that lets weakspot hits count on all hits against status effected enemies

[past stratus]

none of the conversations here in the last two hours have been about making the game better, it is just ramblings and rage baiting

[unreal forge]

Agree

[unreal nova]

There are slightly OP and then there's rumbler. Oh and don't forget how oggies get 400% damage from just swinging m1 everywhere.

[unreal forge]

There's a certain pride some people attain

[safe kestrel]

Ok input taken. I’m still in the realm of being able to walk out as I just got here lol

[past stratus]

yeah don't worry about it, it is literally one guy dedicated to say inflammatory shit non stop

[unreal forge]

They will beat H40 over and over with their meta items. They will ignore that they abused meta items. And then they will shame others for using meta items, and will cry for those meta items to be nerfed

[ember nest]

I will entertain that there is a group of players in all games who think that if the skill required is not 600 seperate actions per minute then whatever is lowering that number is "unskilled"

[unreal nova]

You can ask anyone who did the maths.

[ember nest]

but most of the people HERE

[unreal forge]

which is literally what Mr. E does, so no I'm not making that up

[ember nest]

here

HERE

are not like that

[atomic void]

this is just a mass generalization. complaining that a certain weapon trivilizes a diff isnt me wanting players to be miserable, its me wanting to actually have fun

[unreal nova]

And everyone with any brain cell ignores him.

[unreal forge]

Mr. E in his latest ranged weapons tierlist video went on a tangent about Rumbler ruining his games

I opened his stream recently and guess what he was playing with

for every single match he played

[unreal nova]

Ppl wanna be the only one with op.

[tropic notch]

I’m ngl I’m pretty chill with the plasma and ds nerf I’m actually happy about it because it’ll force people to actually have a brain

[unreal nova]

Nobody likes others being op compared to them.

Is human.

[atomic void]

i mean E admits that he's lazy and loves his comfort weapons no? not sure where the "Gotcha" here is lmao

[ember nest]

I dunno what the meta behind darktide content creation is

[civic apex]

i miss the confidence i got from beating sedition

[atomic void]

u can enjoy something and still realize that its dumb broken

me with arbi

i fucking love the class

[unreal forge]

why is he being hypocritical and ruining other people's games

[ember nest]

it's either:
You are boring
You are hyperbolizing
You are Tanner

[unreal nova]

Oggies are straight op op compared to every other class atm.

[ember nest]

which way western man

[tropic notch]

Huh

Chat what does that even mean

[unreal nova]

Any actual high lvl player will tell you that.

[ember nest]

thank you drifty for apparently getting the joke

[nimble wadi]

@gleaming merlin @median folio look at my beautiful chicken

[civic apex]

ah yes i forgot that i am Mr. E

[atomic void]

isnt bor always playing with premades?
they consented to it

[civic apex]

i don't play premades

[unreal forge]

Fine

Still stupid

[ember nest]

https://tenor.com/view/pita-a-horse-is-here-gif-3838550382478913993

[unreal forge]

He loathes the weapon so much in every youtube video but crutches on it endlessly in game

it's so much talk

[civic apex]

that i do find funny

[unreal nova]

Is like dueling sword.

[barren girder]

you balance the ogryn's opness by adding him as a boss in the game

[civic apex]

hilarious, actually

also

[tropic notch]

Yeah I don’t like Mr e his silly and dumb!!!!

[atomic void]

he doesnt loathe it, he finds it fun but realizes that its stupid
both are not mutually exclusive

[civic apex]

he's a book spam zealot

double cdr

[atomic void]

u gotta stop making up things to get mad over then get mad over

anyway gn chat

[median folio]

Why did you expose me to this?

[ember nest]

gn cyber

[past stratus]

gn

[civic apex]

gn

[median folio]

gn

[nimble wadi]

Jealous? 😌

[median folio]

No, the opposite

[nimble wadi]

No need to lie

[ember nest]

how can a taco stan make chicken

I think there is a conspiracy afoot

[nimble wadi]

I can do aything

Anything

[ember nest]

anything...

[tropic notch]

Sorry I’ll try harder

People don’t know about dbarrel and power sword

[unreal nova]

Auric.

[elder vessel]

Auric

[unreal forge]

https://youtu.be/_7ip0p77W54?si=FWAkKO9OBZNtzLar&t=4962

[ember nest]

go on...

[tropic notch]

Zzzzzzz

[unreal forge]

"The Rumbler trivializes the game in its totality."

he says, losing every havoc game

when he actually streams it

[languid prawn]

yo i just started playing veteren. whats a good gun/melee combo that i should just grind to max that work really well?

[tropic notch]

Yeah cause he sucks and orgyn isn’t a ranged character

[civic apex]

its only annoying having a good player in your game use it

[unreal forge]

whaaatttt

what do you mean good player

[faint beacon]

No its just annoying in general it turns the game off

[elder vessel]

Chainaxe Braced Autogun

[faint beacon]

lmao

[ember nest]

isn't this the bardin engineer paradox

[unreal forge]

I always thought it was a brainless op weapon that anyone can use

[tropic notch]

I be making havocs into malice with bp zealot with dueling sword

[languid prawn]

thanks

[barren girder]

2.5 HOURS/12

BEAT MUSIC'S RECORD

[past stratus]

can someone say whatever it is that Raiva wants us to say so he can stop spamming this chat with the same thing over and over?

[barren girder]

THATS MY GOAT 💪

[past stratus]

nerf bad

[tropic notch]

Sorry was me

[past stratus]

buff good

is that it?

[ember nest]

can I kidnap one of "you people" for malleus monstrum

[past stratus]

never nerf anything fat shark please

[civic apex]

delete h40

delete havoc

[unreal forge]

what it's only been 2 hours

[civic apex]

bring back sedition

remove auric

[barren girder]

KEEP GOING

i want you to beat his record

[tropic notch]

Tbh the only thing that i ever complained about was Arby dog truth nuke lol

[barren girder]

i know you can do it

[unreal forge]

I want tuning

[barren girder]

i want fatshark devs to treat this shit like a subathon

[nimble wadi]

I think spawn rng in havoc can get iffy like today I did a 40 that was way eaier than a 33

[past stratus]

this but unironically, it is giving me M+ PTSD

[ember nest]

I don't know what he wants and no one here does either

[barren girder]

whoever can keep going about the balance on whatever side of the argument for the longest

[nimble wadi]

I did a 33 where twins happened before we even got out of the spawn zone

[barren girder]

will be listened to in the next major patch

[civic apex]

i would uninstall darktide and stop playing if they removed havoc

[tropic notch]

Metal fab

[nimble wadi]

Consigment yard but metal fab is also fucky

[past stratus]

buff good
nerf bad
fatshark bad
arbites good
ogryn good
never nerf
always buff

is that enough? please man

[unreal forge]

What's your stance on it

[civic apex]

m1 macro is the way to play the game

and just dodge left right no timing

[midnight wyvern]

sounds fun

[ember nest]

the supplies do be goated tho

[gleaming merlin]

I just got back from changing a baby diaper and I'd rather eat what was in there tbh.

[past stratus]

that would be sad because you have a SoB pfp and they are cool so you're cool too

[unreal nova]

Try again like... IDK 14 hours later. It's also storming.

[nimble wadi]

WHAT THE FUCK

[nimble wadi]

[civic apex]

enough sarcasm

[ember nest]

naw I want them and the cache

[midnight wyvern]

how much do you get from H40 lol

[civic apex]

23k diamantine

[ember nest]

Highest I got so far is like h32 or smth

[civic apex]

like 160k gold

and i dont remember how much plasteel

probably like 30k

[midnight wyvern]

160k dockets is

[civic apex]

160k dockets is silly

so small

[safe kestrel]

This is a seasonal/rotational culture aspect of all multiplayer shooter games. Folks will blame the programming or given tools, but really it’s the influencers themselves

[ember nest]

the docket payout of havoc in general is

not large

[unreal nova]

More, normal behaviour. Ppl wanna be better than others.

More Kills, more damage.

Circle chasing as usual.

[past stratus]

that one was actually not sarcasm, you had reasonable takes this whole discussion and I do like the SoB

[hearty panther]

Man Purple + Yellow is such an awful combo

[ember nest]

what's sob

[hearty panther]

What a slog.

[ember nest]

like
the color?

the colors?

[unreal nova]

It's one of the easier ones sadly.

[hearty panther]

havoc

[ember nest]

oh

[unreal nova]

Just... CHORE.

[hearty panther]

yea i prefer red+ purp

[civic apex]

i have a purp red consignment

looking forward to it when i play later

[safe kestrel]

Btw i think the rumbler debate is just more talking past the actual issue that the game while fun at lesser difficulty doesn’t punish for lack of team work up until the last half of the end game feature. So you have a decent segment of the culture (not necessarily players from here but just in the game!) who have an entire play experience trying to be the hero character which actually doesn’t help anyone or provide extra fun

[hearty panther]

Yes it's just Smyker debates all the way down.

[unreal nova]

Excuse me what, I will loot gremlin even if i totally don't need mats other than dockets anymore.

[ember nest]

me watching 3 arbites in a havoc 7 get themselves systemmatically exterminated by dumb shit because they keep splitting up into different sections of the map

[safe kestrel]

Like as a psyker main with vets in the game. Synergy with vet mains happen when you give them breathing room to shoot like they’re supposed to and let them drag

[unreal nova]

And people still use it to bully others.

[midnight wyvern]

at some non descript time, I might need materials, so I never stop gathering them

gremlin all the way

[unreal nova]

Great stuff when someone types into chat that he did more than others.

[safe kestrel]

Lmao dead as and it keeps happening

[past stratus]

yes and I think things that teach bad habits should not be abundant in a game that has a steep learning curve

[midnight wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/gary-cat-fat-gary-little-gary-gary-boxing-gif-23507058

[unreal nova]

By running off to go kill while everyone was doing objectives.

[safe kestrel]

Oh my sweet diamantine. This is part of why I want 40

[barren girder]

i took a screenshot earlier cause i forgot too

[barren girder]

yeah i was broke from diamantine getting my vet shit up to snuff

[ember nest]

my thing is like
this shit isn't even as hard as damnation at this low what the FUCK is going on how did they PASS a maelstrom

[civic apex]

arbitrator doesn't care abt team play in h40

[unreal nova]

True. I mean... Arby ate abit. XD

[barren girder]

thank god i completed a 40 earlier this week

[midnight wyvern]

I do not understand how people don't have diamantine

[barren girder]

i have not been able to complete a 40 since the dog bleed got patched tho

[ember nest]

I eated it

[barren girder]

this is why im selling out my dignity, buff everything so i can have more diamantine

[unreal nova]

Some ppl can't H40.

[midnight wyvern]

[hearty panther]

Upgrading the gear score sucks a lot of Dia

[unreal nova]

I mean, if they said nothing. Why bother.

[hearty panther]

I literally cannot run out.

[barren cave]

empowering weapons sucks diamantine yeah

[ember nest]

actual footage of me upgrading yet another weapon from like grey level 270 to 500

[unreal nova]

That's the complains the first time H40 happened. Those that can do it had millions already.

[midnight wyvern]

it doesn't though, I have stayed at basically the same amount through the entirety of Arbites, and while i loot gremlin more than other people it shouldn't be making the difference of 10s of thousands of diamantine lol

[hearty panther]

I spent like 7mil ordos, 100k plas and 200k dia when Arby dropped and I'm already back over

[barren cave]

fortunately, I got ogryn all weapons maxed out, a perfect roll for each ogryn weapon, and all ogryn penances done, so whenever I need resources I just play a couple of ogryn matches and thats enough

[civic apex]

i actually need resources

[hearty panther]

Only the Melk bucks take a while but who cares

[civic apex]

i can clear h40 pretty easily but i don't have a ton of play time

only like 600hrs

[unreal nova]

BUT CURIOS.

[civic apex]

so i need the loot

[unreal nova]

Burnt like 80k to get barely any good curios on Arby.

[ember nest]

it's so strange to hear "only 600 hours"

[civic apex]

the best way for me to get more resources is to play much easier difficulties

[midnight wyvern]

real, im at 820 so still plenty of random things to upgrade but I just don't care to go do it lmao

[hearty panther]

It took me 150k to get six curios

[midnight wyvern]

I just upgrade things when Im actually going to use them

[civic apex]

i think i afked 300-400

[barren cave]

how are you gambling for curios? at brunts?

[civic apex]

i just leave my PC on a ton

so its not very accurate

my account level is 300-400

[unreal nova]

Melkbux.

[midnight wyvern]

[hearty panther]

Melks.

[barren cave]

you can gamble at melks?

[hearty panther]

Yea

[barren cave]

[hearty panther]

Always could

[barren cave]

OH

[unreal nova]

Yeah, click on the not store tab.

[barren cave]

the mystery thing

[silk cypress]

Random curios

[barren cave]

yeah yeah

[midnight wyvern]

I had 40k and got 2 of every curio in 25k, 3 of toughness

im sorry for your luck

lmao

[barren cave]

i remember now, Ive just never tried using it for curios

[unreal nova]

I did. Is why I have 7 +3 stams.

.-.

I was rolling for toughness for Havoc nonsense.

[ember nest]

I just wanna hear the cadia vet yell "BOLWUARK" that's why I play

I don't even use cadia vet

[hearty panther]

I mean I wanted one +3 stam, which I already had by chance from an Emperor's Reward, so that was nice. But I also wanted 3x 21%HP and 3x 17%T and that took a while.

[safe kestrel]

Yes I’m at like 200 just starting this game and feel weathered lmao

[barren cave]

i have 0 max stat curios on all my characters

[nimble wadi]

They need to introduce the Canadia Vet

New personality DLC

Bulwark, eh?

[midnight wyvern]

all plus 3 stam curios on a shield Arb

[hearty panther]

Some playtimes will shock you.

[midnight wyvern]

[unreal nova]

So was like.... I will play my psyker...

Just gimmie more melkbux to gamble.

[hearty panther]

On Arby 1S/2T

[unreal nova]

Then I remembered why I don't play my psyker.

[hearty panther]

I should really drop that extra stam but it's so comfy.

[ember nest]

I need a maliciously creepy somewhat monotone voice for vet for all the kreigers

[midnight wyvern]

^^

[ember nest]

and also just like "average stereotypical texan seargent"

[midnight wyvern]

I know I should probably run another toughness but many stam is goog

[nimble wadi]

Are kriegers like that lore wise?

[ember nest]

sometimes

[unreal nova]

But then OCD kills you.

[ember nest]

a lot of them are really dreary when not at war

[unreal nova]

249 toughness.

[ember nest]

like they get

[past stratus]

I've seen first hand the progression of arbys in the game currently, I leveled my Ogryn with a friend that was playing Arby, and they stomp the game up till Heresy. But when I got on Damnation I started seeing more and more players making very silly mistakes, more than once I've been in a game where my Arbites team mate runs ahead and just dies.

[unreal nova]

_>

[ember nest]

really fucking dreary when they're not actively in hell

[midnight wyvern]

I have 209 or something currently

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-fuck-frustrated-gif-15331740

[hearty panther]

Krieger's canonically listen to Death Cab for Cutie and wonder why their lover back home doesn't write back.

[unreal nova]

That's 3x 17% and 3x5%.

[ember nest]

when they're in an actual war they're pretty stoic but like in the normal 40k way

[midnight wyvern]

I know

maths right

[midnight wyvern]

crazy

[ember nest]

if not a bit zealotrous

[unreal nova]

JUST ROUND UP TO 250... suiertgrhrrhmuhimhnnhiuni yhehthntdhunitdrhbignu

[midnight wyvern]

or 210

[ember nest]

Im gonna go listen to soul meets body on repeat now

no I just like the music GOSH mom

[past stratus]

Krieg listens to Glimpse of us by Joji on repeat

[unreal nova]

IRL, yes... My OCD is breaking me.

In game... Arby only loses if a trapper traps you through walls like BS.

[little path]

Rashad is the meta combaxe right?

[ember nest]

I am mentally manifesting a world in which veteran has a tree that can't be accidentally fucked up just because you went after a random talent off to the left

[unreal nova]

Though to be fair, that's 300 ping speaking.

Da fuk do i know where everything is actually server wise.

[ember nest]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-reverse-smile-ishowspeed-confused-gif-17362243368421867313

sorry sometimes I'm a little shitty

I meant silly but

that's also true

[unreal nova]

I mean, playing Vet rn is like uhhh... scratch wrists with sharp things.

[ember nest]

playing vet right now is "damn I wish" [voice of command] "I had" [voice of command] "more things to work with" [voice of command]

[unreal nova]

I have serrated, does it count?

[ember nest]

meanwhile Im playing zel trying to do this stupid fucking penance and worshipping the mere idea of not needing to use stun grenades anymore

[unreal nova]

I could also take my lacerate knoife on it if you want.

[ember nest]

I want to HIT THINGS with a KNIFE

[unreal nova]

Or the Flesh Tearer one.

Lacerate sounds better.

More bleed generally.

[barren cave]

what knife build is best

[unreal nova]

Because I need Uncanny.

[barren cave]

im using uncanny and precog rn

[unreal nova]

Blade NEEDS to be sharp.

[safe kestrel]

So this guy sounds like an absolute tool based on the little I’m learning

[tropic notch]

With vet uncanny with riposte / precog is the best if you’re wanting to use bleed to flesh tearer

[unreal nova]

Think bad player who cries about stuff, gets carried all the time.

[sleek garden]

he should put his money where his mouth is and use the devils claw (no idea who this is about)

[tropic notch]

You always pair bleed with uncanny

[unreal nova]

But is influencer with fans so acts like he's actually good and pro.

[tropic notch]

I don’t believe they did uncanny is a self buff

[unreal nova]

Easy to test. I just need to get on later. My oggy does a certain damage in 2 push atks.

I just need to see how much it does now.

Has opportunist so is rending.

To be more exact, crushers die in exactly 4 push atks, and there's a huge spike in the bleed damage on the second hit.

It's a dumb FNP build so it's not made for damage.