And expanded the blessing pool
#veteran-class
tame lodge
ember nest
at this point I'm basically using DS or knife as reposition tools
atomic void
this weapon just feels like it exists for people who want to play """"""Ethically"""""""
crude wind
Chain axe is... Very average. Evis is better but still not where it should be imo
atomic void
(make the game harder for yourself)
ember nest
I was havving the most fun auric games of my life yesterday and will put it into practice in havoc when I feel up to it
crude wind
Devil's claw at least has its parry rager niche
atomic void
the parry is really funny
but that's about it
i dont feel like its a real weapon outside the parry
ember nest
isn't chsword 13G like okay if you lightspam it
crude wind
It's one of the only weapons that lets you comfortably solo 15 dreg ragers in melee without getting kersplatted. So at least it has that.
sudden cedar
Devils Claw is amazing against unarmoured enemies and can clear those reasonbly well, for everything else however you have to hit unarmoured body parts or look for an alternative, because against armour it really is not great.
past stratus
Parry is such a cool mechanic
ember nest
si it marksman's focus that's required to make it hit a 1shot breakpoint against these
sudden cedar
You can also parry a daemonhost and defeat it that way.
Although i wouldn't want to wake up a daemonhost just for that anyway.
But hey, you could.
past stratus
I once read someone in reddit saying that if you mastered the Claw sword, you could beat anything in the game
made me remember of that "I studied the blade" meme
past stratus
maybe that's the missing link, instead of complaining about melee on Vet, we should all be studying the blade
sudden cedar
I mean, as a defensive tool i can see it being really good.
unreal nova
Although i wouldn't want to wake up a daemonhost just for that anyway.
Stares at dual forced mortis DH and half team MIA.
ember nest
I mean, as a defensive tool i can see it being really good.
how does this work into like 8 crushers
and the obligatory 4 bulwarks
past stratus
idk if any melee weapons work on all of that at once
open ravine
https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087
Not my main shield
just the one with best damage stats for current demonstration
atomic void
what high damage
just spam heavies and melt entire hordes with 0 effort
open ravine
Wouldnt affect single target
open ravine
Its cleave is crazy but i feel pickaxe is just better overall for damage
past stratus
that's like the point isn't it? The shield is a defensive option
the pickaxe is offensive
open ravine
But arbite shield can dish out damage
tame lodge
So does ogryn
past stratus
well
open ravine
Like I know the arbites use an electrified weapon but I just feel ogryn would hit harder
tame lodge
400% melee damage
past stratus
all of the arbite weapons are fairly out of line with the rest of the game, shield looks like it swaps faster than knife lol
calm shard
all of the arbite weapons are fairly out of line with the rest of the game, shie...
not really
open ravine
all of the arbite weapons are fairly out of line with the rest of the game, shie...
the swap speed is crazy but its not like crazy strong
calm shard
the arbites shock maul is very good but it's not the best melee in the game or anything
the shotguns feel a lot better than they actually are
calm shard
what high damage
this
open ravine
The arbites weapons were done incredible well
calm shard
the one where you aren't gimping your shield (and probably talent tree) to prove a point
past stratus
that ogryn shield is so small, is that a skin? It looks cool
calm shard
that ogryn shield is so small, is that a skin? It looks cool
mod :)
don't tell the inquisitor but it's actually a smaller version of the bulwark shield
open ravine
the one where you aren't gimping your shield (and probably talent tree) to prove...
what are you on about I dont use the shield that often so i didn't know you could abuse stuff to get this damage
tame lodge
what are you on about I dont use the shield that often so i didn't know you coul...
So
You're claiming stuff without knowing
That's crazy
š
calm shard
what are you on about I dont use the shield that often so i didn't know you coul...
probably for the best tbh because the block canceling in the clip I posted is all you do like
90% of the time
it's not very fun
sudden cedar
@ember nest Let's just say, if you mess up your parry, you end up a pancake on the floor
past stratus
didn't a guy post a video here doing some crazy parrying against a big mob of maulers and crushers? Right after the patch
open ravine
So ogryn shield is strong because of certain blessing and H1 spam using block canceling. How isn't that a problem
I would rather it get buffed and blessings and stuff get sorted
unreal nova
didn't a guy post a video here doing some crazy parrying against a big mob of ma...
Mad skillz isn't something everyone has.
tame lodge
So ogryn shield is strong because of certain blessing and H1 spam using block ca...
It's a problem
Because that's all shield does
Spam H1 ad infinitum
Light attacks are griefing
unreal nova
H2 only in massive crowds?
past stratus
Mad skillz isn't something everyone has.
you should be studying the blade >:(
unreal nova
I don't.
past stratus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1388753985111982081/W...
yeah this one
tame lodge
Another brutal momentum moment
stiff glacier
tame lodge
atomic void
the arbites shock maul is very good but it's not the best melee in the game or a...
yeah i dont understand people asking for arbi maul to get the nuke its not even top 5 melee 
is it cracked? sure but other classes have weapons with much faster ttk
ember nest
I like to think its just because of how "planly" strong it is
calm shard
yeah i dont understand people asking for arbi maul to get the nuke its not even ...
you could also make this argument for dueling sword
ember nest
You just click shit and it dies eventually due to stagger shenanigans and you dont have to lkme
calm shard
it's a problem because any old dumbass can perform with it
if something is strong but still has to interact with the game that's fine mostly
ember nest
Charge a heavy, cancel an activation, etc
atomic void
I like to think its just because of how "planly" strong it is
it is safe in melee but that's arabebebes in general especially on a forceful build
ember nest
You go gorilla greet a crusher's skull
unreal nova
if something is strong but still has to interact with the game that's fine mostl...
To be fair, is just a crutch stick for bad players nowadays. All the actually good ones all use something else anyway.
atomic void
if something is strong but still has to interact with the game that's fine mostl...
how to kill crusher with arbi maul h1 into l1 loop
how to kill a crusher with crusher spam 3 push attacks
lets nuke the crusher too 
calm shard
how to kill crusher with arbi maul h1 into l1 loop
how to kill a crusher with cr...
my fucking STAMINA
one random poxwalker deciding that my last dodge "didn't count" and I get stunned because they hit my block
ember nest
Honorable metal gear poxwalker
atomic void
my fucking ***STAMINA***
this is why i mix in a light in between
unreal nova
Honorable metal gear poxwalker
Those sneaky bastards.
atomic void
but yeah my point is if we're nuking this one we should also look into every single weapon that can nuke things with simple combos and that's a headache lol
cause that's the entire game almost
ember nest
Arbi's blessings are just really good
atomic void
it's the tree too
atomic void
above foreceful there's a whole section that is just "breath and get 15% dmg"
ember nest
The "count as staggered" and "against staggered" stuff is great and makes me wish vet had more enemy state interaction
atomic void
concussive is one of the perks of all time
tame lodge
Stagger heavy class 
calm shard
The "count as staggered" and "against staggered" stuff is great and makes me wis...
how about we interact with enemies that are in the state of dead
specifically by applying that state to them
š
ember nest
Thats the plan š
calm shard
I would kinda like to see veteran have a lot more focus on marked targets tbh
ocean swallow
am i griefing if i dont take a keystone talent
seen some recon las builds with no keystones am i being trolled
atomic void
how about we interact with enemies that are in the state of dead
that's a whole point of taking count as staggered perks
cause then u stagger them insta and then apply you mega juiced 1 billion 15% dmg increase perks
calm shard
They have a lot of ways to mark enemies and unique interactions for it already
atomic void
I would kinda like to see veteran have a lot more focus on *marked* targets tbh
im gonna be honest EO feels like it would slap hard on a vet
ember nest
What if krak grenades forced all tic damage on an enemy to apply at once 
calm shard
Obviously not with EO's busted ass effects
past stratus
is the hammer of the emperor guide outdated?
calm shard
well no because veteran hasn't been updated lmao
calm shard
Yeah basically have that be a rework to make Focus Target less boooooooooring
Do a Warframe and give it an upgrade where the mark spreads to nearby enemies when the target is killed
ember nest
Isnt that kinda sorta what that one node from it does kinda
tame lodge
I forgot to ask path or exhillious
If trauma blessing would extend the period of that Arbites talent
calm shard
Damn now I really want middle tree vet to just be Banshee from warframe
tame lodge
Weakspot considered staggered for 5 seconds
ember nest
Damn now I really want middle tree vet to just be Banshee from warframe
Useless without evade? Damn
Stealth vet finally meta but at what cost
tame lodge
is the hammer of the emperor guide outdated?
Like 90% up to date
calm shard
Useless without evade? Damn
I have been playing Banshee for several years
calm shard
I was there playing her with no shieldgating
tame lodge
There's a steam version on the works
calm shard
When she had lower base health, no prime, and no armor
tame lodge
Path is just on vacations rn
calm shard
Most fun warframe in the game
Sonar is my favorite ability in that game
Silence is also a banger
her other abilities?
uh
don't ask
ember nest
"Most fun warframe"
Look inside
Only 2 abilities
calm shard
Well yes but those 2 abilities are very fascinating
and hey some warframes only get by with 1
ember nest
Not that fascinating for that title lmfao
calm shard
Especially the old ones
ember nest
Who
A lot of frames are fine these days
Banshee and chroma are serviceable but need help
calm shard
Limbo, Volt, Nova, Titania, Khora, Equinox immediately come to mind
I kinda like Equinox tho she's fun
calm shard
Molecular Prime is the only thing you are using on her
ember nest
volt
Huh
calm shard
And it's just Sonar but different
ember nest
??????,,
calm shard
Volt you are either building for only speed
calm shard
or only discharge
calm shard
oh did she get reworked
ember nest
Y e a h
calm shard
Anyways the only thing Banshee would need is for her 1 and 4 to be reworked
Sonar stacking with itself is arguably a problem but who cares at this point in warframe "balance"
ember nest
Volt got launched back into relevancy
Limbo is fine but most builds steal silence from banshee for him
calm shard
Yeah gee I wonder why people would want to use Silence with all those super engaging Eximus units around
calm shard
Yeah I guess it's not really fair to call an exalted weapon one button
Hey at least she isn't Sevagoth in terms of forma
I always kinda wanted to play him but holy fuck dude
ember nest
No no
She's worse
Shes so much worse
I think I put like 14 forma in her
Room nuke sevi just yses augments, shield gating, and roar
calm shard
If you want to use Sevagoth's Shadow at all the primary gimmick of the frame
You have to forma Sevagoth himself, his shadow, and his shadows claws
calm shard
Titania is just her and her arch weapon
ember nest
I just don't go into the deatb state or use his 4 ever
calm shard
so still bad but not as bad
calm shard
Oh yeah spellbind
ember nest
Lantern unironically aids in alot
calm shard
Just because it's thematically appropriate
I also really don't like Absorb
Granted my Nyx is a super meme build
ember nest
1999 was december 2024
ember nest
oh did she get reworked
U stopped...a little before then
calm shard
worst status effect finally good?
ember nest
Blast vectis evade banshee unironically can solo as long as she wants now
ember nest
That got an incarnon
ember nest
Its a decent facelift on raw stats even if you dont use the mode
ember nest
One of these things are not like the other
One is a monstrous demon that does ungodly damage and the other is the supra vandal
calm shard
Supra Vandal has high base status chance it can do good damage
Also like gun go brrrrt
ember nest
My pov of "good damage" is cooked
calm shard
It might be mine I have been away from the game for several years
I would also have to come back and get the Velox Prime
Love that stupid pistol
ember nest
It fun
calm shard
Slash weighted, stupid high fire rate, and good status chance
calm shard
God just thinking of all the weirdo weapons of Warframe makes me wanna play it again and go collect more weirdo guns
And put whack ass builds on them
Like my Quatz
grand perch
warframe, a game i picked up excitedly and then grew bored of within a little less than 2 hours
calm shard
It be that way
ember nest
The point of warframe is thinking things are way too easy and then forcing them to be in steel path later
Start the game killing everything instantly
And then try to kill things instantly forever
calm shard
I think my usual go to weapons for Steel Path were the uh
Komorex, Akarius, and the Quassus
ember nest
Komo sleeper pick
Akarius not sleeper
Quassus mega sleeper
calm shard
Twin Kohmak was another pistol I used a lot
ember nest
Lots of "hidden gem" weapons in this game nowadays but ppl don't usually get to that point
ember nest
Whats it called
The uh
Steel path duviri
Is what got me to start making builds for more than 1 thing
Because like, it feels night and day between "I am blowing up everything" and "I am legitimately barely surviving and not doing any damage"
Getting stuck with dogshit builds sucks
I don't want darktide to ever be like warframe though
Its a diff kind of high
Could care less what happens to helldivers atp though 
past stratus
I think I might study the claw
ember nest
Looking back, I'm glad darktide scales the way it does and keeps even the babyshit mook enemies dangerous (even though a lot of it comes down to them appearing behind you)
Forces ppl to acquire actual skills very quickly
Now I just wanna see stuff like vet have 3 choices for ult instead of 1
past stratus
Poxwalkers are usually more of an issue to me than special enemies, if they are not teleporting behind me they are finding a way to body block me into a death corner
ember nest
Lmfao yeah
The "horde" is actually a genuine horde by way of sheer bodymass and not just numbers
tall torrent
I think I might study the claw
Have fun with Dreg bruisers
past stratus
isn't that just the reality of every vet weapon besides the Psword? Oh you want good armor shred? Good luck with hordes. You want good horde clear? Good luck with armor
faint beacon
Mogged by dreg bruisers is crazy
Flak armor mogged
tame lodge
isn't that just the reality of every vet weapon besides the Psword? Oh you want ...
All of those can damage flak
š
Except dclaw
Mind you
Dclaw got buffed like 3 times already
None of those addressed the flak issue
past stratus
I honestly feel I'd get the same sass if I mentioned any other weapon, they are all shit at something that doesn't justify taking them over the Psword. I use the Psword on every single setup that I have currently, I'm quite bored of it
I just want a different type of suffering
sonic kayak
Heavy Sword
tame lodge
I just want a different type of suffering
Then I recommend suffering with Dclaw
It sucks against flak
Abysmal
Disgusting
And the only thing good about it is the parry
past stratus
yeah and it has funny parry mechanic so it's ok
tall torrent
isn't that just the reality of every vet weapon besides the Psword? Oh you want ...
No
Combat axe
tame lodge
Enemies can't hit you now
You can't parry
So now you're just standing there
On a parry stance
past stratus
that is most games these days, but in those games where I have rabid arbies and ogryns terrorizing the map I don't even get to play the game no matter what setup I use
so does it really matter?
past stratus
It's fine, I'm using this while leveling plasma and shotgun
So no real hard difficulty
Probably just damnation spamming
sudden cedar
@past stratus Try the Achlys Combat Axe if you want suffering.
past stratus
Isn't the Combat axe generally pretty ok overall?
I'm not a fan of axes in general, thematically
tame lodge
Achlys axe is the worst axe
Play it without Brutal Momentum
You will hate yourself
It has
NO CLEAVE
*on lights
past stratus
That sounds awful
tame lodge
*on lights
*and heavy 1
past stratus
I wish darktide had more hammers, I love hammers.
My delusional dream is we get Voltann and we get a bunch of hammers so I can be Bardin in 40k
wind trail
"dump" stat for plasma gun? i know 68% heat res is the go to, which would u say is the dump stat between charge rate vs ammo
rough cobalt
What is best weapon for havoc, just played with 3 arbites and I just was so useless I need apparently to play meta
tame lodge
Melee wise
Power sword
Ranged wise
Recon
Helbore
Laspistol
Plasma
Bolt pistol for grenadier
rough cobalt
Just did Recon and Dueling sword, gonna change to power sword
feels like I don't do enough dmg to mini bosses like plauge ogryn and DH
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What is best weapon for havoc, just played with 3 arbites and I just was so usel...
dueling sword
if you want boss damage spearhead boltgun and save your ammo for mag dumping bosses but it generally shouldn't be your job to kill them
past stratus
Shout and follow them around so they get extra ammo. 
steep flower
What is best weapon for havoc, just played with 3 arbites and I just was so usel...
No need to play meta; its primarily the personal skill that matters; practice more my friend 
steep flower
dueling sword
if you want boss damage spearhead boltgun and save your ammo for m...
Yeah about the job of killing bosses with boltgunā¦ it is your job
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before it was smaller priority targets but arbites kinda stole our job on that so
idk anymore
heavy rover
feels like I don't do enough dmg to mini bosses like plauge ogryn and DH
Helbore is useful against bosses
steep flower
before it was smaller priority targets but arbites kinda stole our job on that s...
Nah he didnāt; we gud
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aim true in the service of the emperor
steep flower
Helbore is useful against bosses
Generally not that much but it can do nice dmg if you land headshots
heavy rover
you can also use it to play more support by stacking brittlness with armourbane, depending on preference
calm shard
feels like I don't do enough dmg to mini bosses like plauge ogryn and DH
recon las has decen boss damage
heavy rover
or be silly with it and run the mk iv with sustained fire for hilarious damage
calm shard
Vet has some of the best boss damage in the game
Probably 2nd best in the game below rumblergryn
steep flower
Probably 2nd best in the game below rumblergryn
That is very true
calm shard
Power Sword also chunks the fuck out of bosses
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Vet has some of the best boss damage in the game
I feel like we get kinda mogged in the consistency department by arbites/zealot
like when ammo in mag we balling but as soon as that runs out
calm shard
I feel like we get kinda mogged in the consistency department by arbites/zealot
okay but
Also vet has several boss damage weapons that never run out
because Laspistol, Recon, and Helbore are all viable options
calm shard
A bit yes, but exe is still viable even on havoc 40
It takes a lot more effort but you do so much goddamn damage
rough cobalt
Would it be good with Recon?
calm shard
Recon benefits from it the least out of the havoc viable ranged weapons
Since it doesn't really do direct damage
ember nest
Cant laspistol like 2 mag a pogryn
past stratus
the helbore is great, it just got harder to hit things now because there is a big chance of things getting dogged or staggered while you're aiming
calm shard
Cant laspistol like 2 mag a pogryn
less than one mag actually
ember nest
Huh
ember nest
Every time I think I know the esoteric knowledge I learn that there is yet more to know
calm shard
Mk II laspistol takes almost exactly 1 mag to kill a pogryn
rough cobalt
How about infantry lasgun with ES any good or it's same situation as recon lasgun
rough cobalt
as in havoc 40 viable?
calm shard
It's just not a super great gun to begin with
rough cobalt
š¦
tame lodge
How about infantry lasgun with ES any good or it's same situation as recon lasgu...
It's good
tame lodge
But you'll need determined
rough cobalt
Gonna build a build after this round of havoc 21
tame lodge
Or just keep exec stance ad infinitum
Except havoc hordes are thicker than normal
So you'll be meleeing more
Or at least you should be
calm shard
If you have a stable frontline you don't need to melee super often even in havoc 40s
But you should if there isn't anything for you to shoot
rough cobalt
Nvm got wiped out, gonna start doing infantry lasgun build hence a lot of questions coming
3 bosses in small room wipe ;D
hollow ibex
prepare to suffer with ilas
rough cobalt
I'm playing Veteran, suffering is my middle name
calm shard
Yeah Ilas on havocs will be a bit rough
Probably
Has great maniac damage tho so you can delete specials
heavy rover
I suggest swapping to the mk vi power sword
hollow ibex
and use mk6
calm shard
I also personally use Carapace+Elites on poweer sword
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Yeah Ilas on havocs will be a bit rough
calm shard
for juicy crusher 2 tap
heavy rover
same, carapace + elite
calm shard
hit em with one of those
ember nest
Is that downswing after poke or
rough cobalt
okay psword changed, lasgun is fine?
heavy rover
lasgun should be fine
rough cobalt
also this is on all my 3 curios
heavy rover
you might want to change to a faster mk version so you can keep up ghost more consistently
heavy rover
but in general the infantry las setup is good
calm shard
Gets a lot better damage
Of course that argument is founded on me winging it since I haven't used the infantry lasgun in havocs
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right
hollow ibex
I'd argue VII lasgun is better for havocs
i mean you don't know that
heavy rover
which start middle or right?
both work
hollow ibex
because mk7 is more breakpoint dependant
and havoc breakpoints will change
depending on modifiers
so i'd say mk2 is better overall
hollow ibex
i prefer right as well
rough cobalt
any change here?
rough cobalt
I never go left since no toughness regen there ;/
calm shard
God I really want Exhilarating Takedown on my exe stance build
but vet's tree is too goddamn long and the point taxes mean I can't
And the worst part is if Longshot wasn't there I'd be able to
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any change here?
if you lack points later maybe consider dropping nade tinkerer
rough cobalt
?
rough cobalt
realy? even counterfire?
calm shard
counterfire is okay, but it's not worth it for a havoc build
rough cobalt
kk
calm shard
You're going to lose something more important for taking it
hollow ibex
the team marking one is especially bad
spend 1 point to pick up a counter-synergistic node to your ult!
vet talent tree in a nutshell
calm shard
I run this down here, but you can take FT as well if you prefer it
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spend 1 point to pick up a counter-synergistic node to your ult!
spend 1 point to pick up a node that should've been part of the ult in the first place!!
hollow ibex
mmf without camo feels so ass to play tho
hollow ibex
spend 1 point to pick up a node that should've been part of the ult in the first...
ttrue...
calm shard
mmf without camo feels so ass to play tho
I'm built different
rough cobalt
Since I don't use grenades as much I didn't take demolition team
grand perch
I run this down here, but you can take FT as well if you prefer it
mmf with neither camo nor 15 stacks makes me a sad boy 
rough cobalt
feels like focus target is easier to manage especially in chaotic situation
(3 bosses and nobody knows wtf is going)
orchid hemlock
calm shard
Since I don't use grenades as much I didn't take demolition team
you grabbed the bad toughness replenishment minor node by accident
grand perch
you grabbed the bad toughness replenishment minor node by accident
and the bad 8 stack node on ft
rough cobalt
uhm what arre red lines and what are red circles
calm shard
how tf are you going to get shock trooper, superiority, and marksman without the ammo node
hollow ibex
i forgot how fucking stupid the vet tree is
rough cobalt
dropped deadshot, another free perk point
hollow ibex
ammo node is basically a tax node in my head
hollow ibex
dropped deadshot, another free perk point
pick up reciprocity and desperado if you can
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do your taxes vet bros
hollow ibex
at least reciprocity
grand perch
you can also skip determined, executioners stance already gives suppression immunity while active
thats another point to get to recip + desperado
calm shard
I...wouldn't with ilas
hollow ibex
yeah tbh
calm shard
Exe isn't always up
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keep their heads down mayb
calm shard
And when it's not the gun is unusable against ranged enemies
hollow ibex
ES uptime is decent, but still not enough
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suppression my beloved
steep flower
also this is on all my 3 curios
Good to include cooldown ability regen on all 3 instead of hp
rough cobalt
with suppresion now I'm out of points
grand perch
taking a marginally useful node against 1 mechanic instead of getting more damage
rough cobalt
gonna switch hp to cd and then try it out
calm shard
taking a marginally useful node against 1 mechanic instead of getting more damag...
Do you know what being suppressed looks like for an Infantry Lasgun?
grand perch
do i know?
steep flower
Since I don't use grenades as much I didn't take demolition team
Now i see why you said you could not keep up; this needs some loving
rough cobalt
Painful to look at
grand perch
nah i only have over 2000 hours on vet and play ilas with iron sights i have never seen suppression
mate cmon
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1326350550991896599/W...
I see nothing wrong with this
fr tho wtf
tame lodge
Get suppressed lol
grand perch
ES has the best uptime in the entire game possibly. dont take a dead node to get suppression resistance
steep flower
Exe isn't **always** up
Thats up to personal skill really
calm shard
Not having it genuinely makes you dead weight if you do not have exe active or off cooldown
You can't shoot anything becase suppression
And you don't have good melee because gun build
calm shard
longshot I guess
"Fun" quirk about that node
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longshot I guess
calm shard
It doesn't do anything if the enemy is not 12.5 meters or further away from you
rough cobalt
I was kidding but honestly I don't see what can be better for 1 point, no suppresion for now
calm shard
And only gives you the advertised 20% at 30 meters and beyond
do you see how this might be an issue
past stratus
Trench fighter? Kill zone? Field improv? If you have one point to spare
steep flower
I was kidding but honestly I don't see what can be better for 1 point, no suppre...
Can help ya out later tonight if you wanna; still not home but can show stuff & discuss things
steep flower
Trench fighter? Kill zone? Field improv? If you have one point to spare
Field Improv mentioned 
past stratus
I like field improv when I can afford it
midnight totem
Trench fighter? Kill zone? Field improv? If you have one point to spare
Vets have points to spare?
past stratus
Vets have points to spare?
No, not usually
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Vets have points to spare?
they're not being taxed enough
past stratus
There are a few niche situations I think
steep flower
I like field improv when I can afford it
I always can; its one of those āyou go to a shop and you buy that one product firstā type of a deal
rough cobalt
damn feels weird playing without VoC
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someone put voc voice lines over exe stance please
rough cobalt
used to being able save/double my toughness
tame lodge
someone put voc voice lines over exe stance please
I mean
past stratus
I always can; its one of those āyou go to a shop and you buy that one product fi...
I have a friend that I play with often that always asks me to get it
steep flower
damn feels weird playing without VoC
De-tox from using VoC can be hard
past stratus
So I take something off and get it
tame lodge
Pro's "Weapons up! Drive them back!" Makes sense
reef basalt
guys where to get Vraks VII headhunter autogun?cant find it
calm shard
it's right there
past stratus
Making your friends/team happy is a powerful buff
calm shard
guys where to get Vraks VII headhunter autogun?cant find it
You can press the "marks" button to change the variant of a weapon
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Pro's "Weapons up! Drive them back!" Makes sense
TO ME!!!! GIVE EM HELL!!!!!!
calm shard
In your inventory
reef basalt
You can press the "marks" button to change the variant of a weapon
scope??
quiet valley
Smokes and shared Exec stance support build meme lol
grand perch
Smokes and shared Exec stance support build meme lol
what a coincidence
rough cobalt
2nd wipe in first 10 minutes of a mission
grand perch
im making a video about such a build right now
steep flower
Smokes and shared Exec stance support build meme lol
Your melee better be godlike
rough cobalt
typing this since I'm sitting in timeout corner
sleek garden
someone put voc voice lines over exe stance please
this, is how it's done
rough cobalt
feels like 5 seconds it too small of a time
steep flower
Can we talk about vets invis callouts tho? Some are goated
rough cobalt
https://tenor.com/view/salute-good-bye-chao-see-ya-two-finger-salute-gif-2633406...
this is how I felt like
sleek garden
Exec stance smoke vets when there are more than 2 poxwalkers in melee distance
just shoot them with your gun and go back to killing
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Smokes and shared Exec stance support build meme lol
why stop at that
make a squiggle
quiet valley
why stop at that
make a squiggle
gore
steep flower
why stop at that
make a squiggle
Good lord what an abomination 
past stratus
I want to use Smokes a bit, I always see people come here and say "smokes are great", not elaborate and just leave. It makes me curious, I'm going to use them while leveling weapons on damnation
steep flower
How dreadful
grand perch
Can we talk about vets invis callouts tho? Some are goated
https://youtu.be/n1VQW8dhmy8?t=312
i put cutthroat ones at the end
~5:13
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Good lord what an abomination <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
veteran all stat nodes meme build
rough cobalt
I think I just go back to recon/VoC...
steep flower
https://youtu.be/n1VQW8dhmy8?t=312
i put cutthroat ones at the end
Fem cadian is peak
rough cobalt
this playstyle is painfull
grand perch
veteran all stat nodes meme build
dear god
calm shard
https://youtu.be/n1VQW8dhmy8?t=312
i put cutthroat ones at the end
honestly
sleek garden
can't miss won't miss on professional is pretty good
calm shard
If it weren't for the bots I'd say female cadian voice is the rarest one in the game
grand perch
it probably is
calm shard
And it sucks because god DAMN the VA kills it
quiet valley
I want to use Smokes a bit, I always see people come here and say "smokes are gr...
In Auric and under they are less useful, as most rooms get cleared before the smoke gets value
steep flower
I think I just go back to recon/VoC...
Never give up! We try tonight ye? Will ping ya once iāll be ready
quiet valley
In Havoc they are very powerful support tools to hold a position without hard cover
calm shard
In Havoc they are very powerful support tools to hold a position without hard co...
Or to forcibly push gunners in a way that lasts longer than 6 seconds (psyker bubble)
rough cobalt
Yea but I'm doing havoc 21 rn so I go back to something I can manage to walk through then I can wait for you to get on
past stratus
In Havoc they are very powerful support tools to hold a position without hard co...
You know, I feel that often. Wide open maps are so difficult for me as Vet.
sleek garden
If it weren't for the bots I'd say female cadian voice is the rarest one in the ...
actually, i can't say ive ever seen more than 2 female professionals
past stratus
I dread that sandy one that you have to fetch the batteries to turn off the big fan.
grand perch
i tried female prof but her voice is grating in my ears
maybe she actually is rarer on vet
id love to see fatshark stats on this
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midnight totem
I dread that sandy one that you have to fetch the batteries to turn off the big ...
I always stay in the right side of that map
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id love to see fatshark stats on this
male cadian professional stocks straight to the moon
midnight totem
Easier to intercept gunner spawns
faint beacon
i tried female prof but her voice is grating in my ears <:Sitgryn:10162694206387...
I just heard Male LCs reaction to an Arby death
Funniest shit ever
grand perch
honestly male vet is probably LC all the way in popularity
past stratus
I always stay in the right side of that map
I should try that
midnight totem
I just heard Male LCs reaction to an Arby death
Lol, what he say
grand perch
I just heard Male LCs reaction to an Arby death
how dare you not put a vid in this comment
midnight totem
I should try that
Its good because two of the possible objective spawns are on that side too
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honestly male vet is probably LC all the way in popularity
I hear male LC a few magnitudes less often than prof
ember nest
female LC my beloved
past stratus
Also why don't we have invigorating vapors like the Ranger in V2? You throw a smoke and heal your friends temporary hp or toughness I guess in dt terms
faint beacon
how dare you not put a vid in this comment
Donāt have access to my PC
Give me like 4 hours
midnight totem
Also why don't we have invigorating vapors like the Ranger in V2? You throw a sm...
Because Psykers have that
faint beacon
āProvostsā dead! LOOTING SEASON IS BACK ON THE MENUā
past stratus
Because Psykers have that
Fuck psykers >:(
ember nest
yes gadly
grand perch
Donāt have access to my PC
i had an interesting line by male LC today...let me clip it
ember nest
any other instructions?
midnight totem
āProvostsā dead! LOOTING SEASON IS BACK ON THE MENUā
Haha nice!
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Also why don't we have invigorating vapors like the Ranger in V2? You throw a sm...
I just think smokes would be seen a lot more often if there was something on top of what they already do
heavy rover
I wish the grenades didn't tax so heavily
quiet valley
I just think smokes would be seen a lot more often if there was something *on to...
Snuff out fire/gas
midnight totem
Id be really happy if improved smokes made enemies move a little slower inside it
calm shard
I just think smokes would be seen a lot more often if there was something *on to...
P much yeah
quiet valley
Would be S+ pick instant
calm shard
Path said they'd like smokes to give stamina to people inside them
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I wish the grenades didn't tax so heavily
ā add 2 more stat nodes on top of every nade and ability
past stratus
Idk if having overlap with Bubble would be a bad thing, Vet and Psyker have similar weaknesses
midnight totem
They're okay
tame lodge
Yes they are
grand perch
āProvostsā dead! LOOTING SEASON IS BACK ON THE MENUā
some arbtets armor cant go amiss
heavy rover
in the right hands, very
tame lodge
Niche
But are good
ember nest
what does it take for the situation to allow for "the right hands"
quiet valley
Smokes in Auric and under = Mid
Smokes in Havoc = Very good support tools
tame lodge
A pesky flamer
ember nest
does it stop bombers
past stratus
It probably takes some practice to use smokes well. In comparison to the other blitz that are pretty straightforward
hollow ibex
its used a bit more peemptively
ember nest
I'm pretty sure bombers are the single most scary mfs on the block
hollow ibex
otherwise not super complicated
tame lodge
Smokes affects anything with a gun, dogs and beast of Nurgle
hollow ibex
I'm pretty sure bombers are the single most scary mfs on the block
trappers are way worse imo
#1 on my killlist
kill list
hollow ibex
Smokes affects anything with a gun, dogs and beast of Nurgle
wait hwat does it do to BON lol
midnight totem
And messes with rodin twin
grand perch
@faint beacon
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It probably takes some practice to use smokes well. In comparison to the other b...
see kraks you just have to chuck it on a crusher and
nvm the zealot already killed it
past stratus
Tags work in the smoke right? Like you can use tags to be able to see enemies through it?
grand perch
thats the trauma speaking
tame lodge
wait hwat does it do to BON lol
Bon has to get even closer to puke
midnight totem
Tags work in the smoke right? Like you can use tags to be able to see enemies th...
Yeah, but you would be already tagging anyway
hollow ibex
Bon has to get even closer to puke
ah ic
past stratus
Yeah, but you would be already tagging anyway
Oh ok, that makes it a lot easier to use then
hollow ibex
Tags work in the smoke right? Like you can use tags to be able to see enemies th...
or just stand in the smoke
or you can install the smoke mod
that makes it transparent
azure stream
for regular pew pew lasgun, should I go focus target or weapon specialist. I have FT right now.
calm shard
Tags work in the smoke right? Like you can use tags to be able to see enemies th...
Yes
You can also see through the smoke if you are standing inside it
faint beacon
thats the trauma speaking
Told you Male LC has some insane inner demons heās coping with
midnight totem
I believe most people can agree with me though. Smokes should highlight enemies within. Not only to help allies see within it better, but also help determine size of the smoke cloud.
trim badger
Clear smokes mod goated af
ember nest
see kraks you just have to chuck it on a crusher and
nvm the zealot already kill...
I said earlier that it would be funny if kraks applied the full tic of any current dots instantly
on the target I mean
past stratus
I'm going to try to learn to use smokes properly
faint beacon
Itās pretty simple honestly
Lack of cover and getting shot at
Throw smokes at feet
midnight totem
Don't throw smokes atop enemy gunner positions
hollow ibex
honestly better to even use it more preemptively
calm shard
Don't throw smokes atop enemy gunner positions
This is a good idea sometimes
hollow ibex
before enemies start shooting
calm shard
But it's safer and easier to just throw it at your feet
steep flower
Told you Male LC has some insane inner demons heās coping with
I love it; fits a Grandpa vibes nicely
hollow ibex
because smoke takes a while to deploy
calm shard
Also means you don't block LoS as much for your teammates
ember nest
Told you Male LC has some insane inner demons heās coping with
both LC do
there's a comment that f LC makes to one of the arbi voices
past stratus
It should be good because I play with friends often and we can communicate through discord.
ember nest
and they comment about LC being too happy during all of this
ember nest
LC is like "I've been killing since I first heled a stabby stick"
hollow ibex
are just different incarnations of PTSD
ember nest
and the arbi is like "That's inspiring and deeply depressing."
hollow ibex
from paying taxes š
grand perch
fem cutthroat literally has a line "i was expendable from my first breath"
ember nest
the gaurd in a nutshell
rough cobalt
What is best male personality?
ember nest
anything that isn't cadian
grand perch
she also answers the loner's complains about being considered expendable with "in other news, water proven to be wet"
which i find hilarious
serene bough
i like LC, then Cadian, then Prof
professional comes off as such a bootlicker at times
ember nest
professional comes off to me as the bogstandard guardsman
past stratus
What is best male personality?
I like the Professional
midnight totem
Well yeah, have you ever met a veteran?
past stratus
The professional is usually pretty nice to his team
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I like the Professional
imo he has the best voc lines
sleek garden
i tried female prof but her voice is grating in my ears <:Sitgryn:10162694206387...
its funny that she sounds kinda normal
ember nest
cadian is the guardsmen larpers want to be
serene bough
i imagine if i were in the guard in the 41st millenium, i'd be dead a few minutes off the dropship
š
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everything else is mid but the voc lines carry him to the top
sleek garden
i imagine if i were in the guard in the 41st millenium, i'd be dead a few minute...
imagine making off the dropship
ember nest
i imagine if i were in the guard in the 41st millenium, i'd be dead a few minute...
the thing with 40k is that despite all the shit going on
most of your life will be spent doing very little
serene bough
imagine making off the dropship
some people call me an optimist
ember nest
and then shit abruptly hits the fan as hard as humanly possible
past stratus
People say the Professional is a boot licker, I think he is just a realist. He knows where he stands in the totem, and wants to survive. I like it
ember nest
like many naval gunnery crews can live an entire life without ever actually firing the guns
grand perch
just being in the guard is out of the question for most of us really
guard is only the top 10% of best soldiers in all planetary forces tithed to the guard
imagine taking the top 10% of earths militaries, only the most well trained and experienced killers and giving them 40k weapons, thats the guard
ember nest
and then right when they are ready to retire the fuckin
nightlords or whatever show up and kill everyone
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just being in the guard is out of the question for most of us really
guard is on...
40000 weapons isn't nearly enough smh smh
serene bough
well admittedly 10% of a planet that has billions of hive city denizens is still a lot of people
ember nest
^
serene bough
im sure someone would have use for us even if we were just meatshields
past stratus
Professional also has the most wholesome interactions with Ogryn and that by itself makes him the best
grand perch
im sure someone would have use for us even if we were just meatshields
yeah. in the pdf
midnight totem
Standards still vary greatly, tbh
ember nest
there's always planetary militia
serene bough
does the guard not have their own conscripted meatshields
grand perch
if us nerd would get tithed, the planetery governor would probably be executed for shirking on proper soldiers for the tithe
faint beacon
People say the Professional is a boot licker, I think he is just a realist. He k...
The real realist is LC
past stratus
The real realist is LC
too edgy for me
serene bough
at one point in my life i considered joining the military
faint beacon
Why he doesnāt take anything seriously he knows he can die at any moment
serene bough
glad i didnt
ember nest
too edgy for me
somewhat ironic since LC is the one that seems the least bootbrained
past stratus
The Professional wants his team to survive
grand perch
what a nerd
past stratus
And tries his best for it
grand perch
i wonder
does any other personality get along with prof
i cant think of one right now
serene bough
agitator fem
midnight totem
Professional knows discipline wins wars, Cadian knows ruthlessness wins wars, LC knows war sucks, but exploding a heretic's brains is fun and he may as well have some decent fun before he dies
grand perch
agitator fem
i dont recall them interacting, what do they say?
midnight totem
Savant Psyker gets along with Prof
ember nest
Professional knows discipline wins wars, Cadian knows ruthlessness wins wars, LC...
I like to imagine the cadian is bad at being a cadian and that's why they're here
grand perch
cadian fem kind of feels like that
ember nest
LC is here because
They're LC
grand perch
blames herself for the death of cadia
sudden cedar
Male Professional and Female Loner Psyker
midnight totem
All Cadians have survivor's guilt
heavy rover
My fav interaction between Ogryn and Arbites was like "Plate-face, if you die, can I keep your dog?" "Only if you take care of it." "So that's a yes!"
ember nest
no smh
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the second arby's gone
grand perch
its my head canon
he forgets he was supposed to take care of it
and he knows arby's is like a food chain
so dog gets eaten
ember nest
I'm pretty sure "getting to keep the dog" is Bully's only good interaction with Arbites
otherwise he just be a whole ass hater at all times
(Which I love)
grand perch
thats bully with everyone typically
faint beacon
Male Fatalist and Male LC get a long very well
ember nest
bully's fine with vet
and sorta fine with psyker
tame lodge
does any other personality get along with prof
Fem pro and fem loner
ember nest
zealot bully gets irritated at but only because they yell
ember nest
but with arbites?
bully goes out of his way to get pissed at him
doing good? "PLATE FACE IS JUST SHOWIN' OFF"
bully doing good? "STICK THAT UP YA LEX"
otherwise he's asking to see if he can throw them
open ravine
the one time i am not trying to do this and I get on my ogryn of all things
faint beacon
Still I find it hilarious the only one who barks back at Maul is Fatalist
Outside of Loner
But thatās just Loner
ember nest
fatalist is a big nerd with issues
grand perch
hes the most experienced of arbites. hes just jaded
ember nest
it can go either way
with the way the voices are, all 3 are basically coping mechanisms
ember nest
naw he's just way too into it
grand perch
authoritarian is just a green by the books recruit
ember nest
fatalist is more of an asshole than maul is by dialogue
grand perch
no way
ember nest
maul will at least be happy if you see him doing good
fatalist is like "Mmyeeh I've seen better eh whatever eh"
clever hedge
Maul talks about being okay with being a monster
grand perch
maul insults you even when hes complimenting you
sudden cedar
Authoritarian is the most friendly.
sudden cedar
@grand perch It's Kerillian, did you expect anything else?
serene bough
i dont recall them interacting, what do they say?
basically light flirting
serene bough
usually along the lines of male prof talking about being the bootlick he is and fem agitator talking about loyalty to emperor and following where he goes
grand perch
<@144780570956660736> It's Kerillian, did you expect anything else?
i kinda wish it wasnt so no one had the lazy kerillian names
ember nest
The hand of the lex
if you are getting a killstreak
maul phrases it as "You should be doing what the psyker is doing" to the rest of the team
I have met a lot of people like that actually
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<@144780570956660736> It's Kerillian, did you expect anything else?
elf?? elf?!!!!
ember nest
maul just like straight up acts like dredd
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i kinda wish it wasnt so no one had the lazy kerillian names
hey not my fault arbites armor kinda sorta looks like kerillians armor
ember nest
my favourite thing is him making mandated edicts
for like
everything
even dumb shit
"UNSACTIONED LEVITY"
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MANDATED EDICT: MAULING!!!!!
serene bough
even dumb shit
is it really dumb if it violates the lex?
faint beacon
Iāll say this right now Fatalist comes off as rude mainly cause heās also like LC, jaded
Maul on the other hand actively gets irritated by literally everything
Including Ogryns
Lmao
ember nest
is it really dumb if it violates the lex?
fatalist is just astraight up insecure because the institution he joined to make a difference perpetuates the very thing he's trying to end
wrong reply
hollow ibex
Maul on the other hand actively gets irritated by literally everything
annoyed but simultaneously having a good time
faint beacon
Psychopathic tendencies being enabled thatās all Iām saying
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maul seems like the guy who wants to be tough *for* other people
You'll come back... If you know what's good for you
grand perch
You'll come back... If you know what's good for you
ember nest
fatalist is like "Shit is fucked"
maul is like "Look how lex I am, I'm so lex, you guys like the lex right? I'm lexxing aaaa"
authoritarian is like
"Myess loyalty"
she gets called out for hanging out with the ogryns all the time
ember nest
I would have to try out the auth voice more
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fatalist is like "Shit is fucked"
maul is like "Look how lex I am, I'm so lex, y...
I'm lexing it...
and by "it" I mean my MAUL
ember nest
I usually only hear female auth ever
I have ran into like 1 male auth
the rest are all mauls or fatalists
and I run maul
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doesn't really help that female maul reads her lines with the most emotion
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I AM THE LEX
ember nest
her accent makes it peak
fatalist feels like if vet LC was paranoid
which like yeah that tracks for an arbites
grand perch
ember nest
- done with life
- can't rightly say they are done with life or the others will probably go ape on them
- also doesn't want to be done because who else will take up the mantle they now wear
faint beacon
Tbf Female Maul has a bit more personality than male imo
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it's probably the kerillian experience speaking
hollow ibex
actually
what the fuck
third person gale???
i knew you were a vigilant enjoyer, but never that sort of freak
ember nest
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kDm3XvcT3xNW3NQuU?invite=c...
which 3rd person is this
wait
faint beacon
Perspectives mod
faint beacon
Centered cause Iād rather it show me a wider peripheral especially in a more melee orientated build
ember nest
and the transparency seems to help quite a bit
I have some things to test in settings
faint beacon
Also more proof on how Green Auth is
Cause I know @grand perch can back me up on it
past stratus
The professional gets along with all the Ogryns, the Seer Psyker, all zealots and somewhat respects the arbites. He only has a beef with the other Veterans.
faint beacon
Literally every guardsmen knows what Karker means
faint beacon
The professional gets along with all the Ogryns, the Seer Psyker, all zealots an...
Itās honestly lighter banter with LC
grand perch
Cause I know <@144780570956660736> can back me up on it
pretty green yeah
though i had one line today where they claimed too have heard one particular excuse by lexbreakers many times
stiff glacier
fem professional trolling judge
faint beacon
Cutthroat though itās straight up spitting venom between the two
stiff glacier
yea its either what happened to your planet bruv or grudging respect
ember nest
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kBVzMrVy6Uuvh9elc?invite=c...
see this is what aI mean by fatalist
he's a fucking nerd
stiff glacier
fatalist feels weird
faint beacon
Constantly talks about the Marshal and trying to please them
Extremely by the books
calm shard
Itās honestly lighter banter with LC
Beats LC flirting with the Savant psyker
faint beacon
Professional but Arbites
faint beacon
Beats LC flirting with the Savant psyker
Male LC and Female Savant banter is nice to hear once in a while imo lmao
stiff glacier
isnt fatalist supposed to be kind of guy who questions lex or what is he defined to be like
past stratus
One of the reasons I like the Seer Psyker is that he also gets along with everyone, in his own special way. He is just happy to be there with his beloved
faint beacon
Itās why Fatalist and LC get a long
stiff glacier
ive yet to hear any interactions with him regarding that
faint beacon
Theyāre not by the rules but rather loyal towards who you work with
faint beacon
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kDm3XvcT3xNW3NQuU?invite=c...
@stiff glacier
Not really him questioning the lex
But a different stance on his views
sudden cedar
Male LC is also trying to hit on the Female Fanatic
faint beacon
I never fucking noticed tbh
Probably cause before hand it never procced the banter
Or I just donāt play with many Female Fanatics
sudden cedar
It was either quite rare or new
And it may only show up now because of increased banter and what not
faint beacon
Thereās actually banter for a full Vet squad thatās pretty rare
Need a Male LC, Prof, Cutthroat
And Female LC
But itās literally just standard guard banter about keeping their guard up or talking shit about each others aim lmao
ember nest
past stratus
The vet has the best banter
sudden cedar
Iam not scared of you. You'll break apart at the last moment. Just. Like. Cadia.
atomic void
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kDm3XvcT3xNW3NQuU?invite=c...
lmao
atomic void
prolly too much effort
faint beacon
*Iam not scared of you. You'll break apart at the last moment. Just. Like. Cadia...
I WONT FORGET THIS
atomic void
u gotta get a new voice actor then hire every previous actor to interact with the new actor then pay people to write dialogue that fits all
past stratus
*Iam not scared of you. You'll break apart at the last moment. Just. Like. Cadia...
My headcanon is that the professional is the coldest veteran
faint beacon
prolly too much effort
Path has said it but there really isnāt a perfect voice for Krieg cosplayers
LC fits for Steel Legion so Iām happy with that
atomic void
yeah there's 3 voices and 10 billion leigons
the guard is MASSIVE
some are gonna get shafted
faint beacon
Honestly if there would be out of all the voices
And even though Iām a SL fanboy
I think there should be one thatās emotionless and clearly willing to die to fit a Krieg archetype
sleek garden
loose cannon and professional ave both been through a billion battles
cadia veteran has probably been fighting on cadia his whole life
atomic void
i kinda imagine a kreig voice to be opposite of emotionless
hyper feral and loud
AAAAAA I KILL U WITH ME SHOVEL AAAAAAA
sleek garden
well
they kinda have to be loud
quiet voices do not play well with the audio in this game
barren girder
i want a jopall voice that only cares about money
sleek garden
notice everyone is barking and screaming their lines
faint beacon
Theyād have be very lacking in different emotions mainly cause theyāre hardcore indoctrinated into dying for the imperium
Yes admittedly itās similar to the Cadians but thereās a clear difference
hybrid burrow
a very german difference