veteran-class

[tropic notch]

The drooling sword

[barren nimbus]

Idk why people hate it. More melee weapons should be at its level

Not the other way around

[tropic notch]

I still find it funny that the ds 5 is basically untouched in the upcoming changes

[void dragon]

Melee classes should be the ones focused on armour rending/brittleness and the ranged ones to have more damage amps.
Bit the balance on that regard is quite weird imo

[tropic notch]

It’s good yes, so good you can put it in a bad players had and he becomes decent

[void dragon]

I blame the ObeseFish for hearing the sissies of the community that cry for DS nerfs

A nuke would not make them unplayable, not even weak

[tropic notch]

Yeah tbh I don’t really care I only used ds on psyker now I just use knife on him lol

[barren nimbus]

I wish that was true. A lot of people are really bad

[void dragon]

I saw players using Arby and I SWEAR THEY HAVE NO SPACIAL AWARENESS! Dog carry

[barren nimbus]

It’s actually so fucking annoying that the chainsword is terrible. The most generic 40k weapon we have is a chain axe which is associated with evil, or at the very least not soldiers of the imperium

[tropic notch]

With a character like zealot, running uncanny and precog with his standard piety build with an unyielding perk will burst a full health boss down to 3/4 and kill it in about 3-4 more hits

[tropic notch]

Real the tourist are here they’ll probably get filtered and leave soon

[void dragon]

Speaking of, is it just me or since the Arby came by bosses in auric just explode?

The feel extremely fragile

[barren nimbus]

Thats what happens when you give the class with 75% boss damage bolt guns and crushers

Or whats the melee maul weapon they have

It’s pretty insane and it has skullcrusher so 125% boss damage

[tropic notch]

I had an oggy build that was his meta hav40 build and this guy just got the game true level 34 and went from dying to actually atleast killing some of the horde it’s all depends on how you build the character

[tropic notch]

Remote det

[void dragon]

That 80% damage amp to all the team to bosses that usually are immune to it is really something, AND THEN you add the bleed dogo

[tropic notch]

You can put the ds in the hands of a new player and they’ll become decent

[barren nimbus]

Which is that

[tropic notch]

Not the best player but the weapon is so good it’s a crutch

[void dragon]

The skull crusher, it's team wide because debuff

[barren nimbus]

Isn’t it 50%

[livid hill]

i love exec stance and have gotten a lot of mileage out of it but it feels like it's a lot less powerful/useful/helpful than voc. as in like, you have to LEARN how to use it in a way I don't feel is the case for VoC .

[void dragon]

40%, but iirc it stacks to 80%

[tame lodge]

4 stacks of 10% Dmg
Up to 8 stacks

[barren nimbus]

Wtf

[tame lodge]

Skullcrusher is one of the blessings ever

[livid hill]

imo its definitely nowhere near as good as the ogryn thingy

[barren nimbus]

So you have unyielding and skullcrusher for 105%, then the keystone and ogryn node for 155% damage increase

[void dragon]

It used to be fine, but now Arby showed why it was never meant to impact bosses that way

[barren nimbus]

Can bosses get staggered so the aura debuffs them?

[void dragon]

Arby can bonk them in head and they count as stagger even if they arent

[tame lodge]

Bosses can be staggered

The thing is Arby's talent

[barren nimbus]

But guys come on. A veteran can spot a boss for like a 10% damage increase

[void dragon]

Stagger is possible, but used to be rare

[tame lodge]

The boss is considered staggered but isn't staggered

[barren nimbus]

I know that, so would its aura be working?

[void dragon]

Yes

[barren nimbus]

The one passive is weird where headshots count as staggered, but I don’t think it actually does stagger bosses idk

[past stratus]

that is the general consensus, it is useable but not as good.

[void dragon]

Exe stance is good, issue that VoC is half the sources of cc the class has, and on top of it it makes you immune to even overheads because piss toughness

[past stratus]

VoC is 50 extra toughness and a powerful stagger on around 15s CD, Exec Stance is a 5s bonus damage that highlights things that people usually already highlight by themselves in high level play

5s buffs are a meme, even if you could do a bazillion damage. You kill ONE (1) guy in game modes where you often face 20 bad guys that need to die at any given point

A wave of angry crushers clashes against your team, you can give them 50+ toughness and stagger all of those crushers or you can get a damage buff and maybe one shot one of those crushers.

😵‍💫

[tame lodge]

One shot

The best stagger is death

https://tenor.com/view/desiler-giga-chad-gif-9574825124538696572

[past stratus]

yeah well at least you can type "I killed one" in the defeat screen lol

[heavy rover]

Might as well throw in vet's Focus Target and focused fire modifier with an extra 40% damage and brittleness while you're at it. Bosses melt

[void dragon]

Exe stance Helbore is legit a scary sniper, really powerful if you peel for it

[tame lodge]

That implies the team didn't kill theirs

Smh

GG no team

Go next

[void dragon]

With the capacity to onetap even H40 crushers if you only kill one enemy it's a you issue

[past stratus]

I mean yeah but it is like I said, doing a billion damage in ONE (1) shot is pretty worthless in the grand scheme of things

not compared to the utility of the VoC

[void dragon]

You don't only shoot once and then it fades, you can keep shooting (crazy idea I know

Bit yeah, VoC is FAR more powerful

[past stratus]

it's 5s on a Helbore

it is 2 shots if you got MKIII maybe

[void dragon]

No if you kill fast

[livid hill]

in my opinion in order for it to be as good as voc it should do more like 50% ranged weakspot damage and also probably more suppression too? but idk cause im not a game dev. I just think it needs to be buffed

[past stratus]

not taking in consideration the time to aim

[void dragon]

You don't run the highlight on ogryn enemies?

Weaksalsa

[past stratus]

what difference does it make if I do? Again, I kill ONE (1) Ogryn, if I'm lucky maybe two

even on Auric you get waves with like 10 to 15 bad guys

[tame lodge]

Are you telling me

That they are all eligible for Exec

?

Because that's free uptime on exec

[void dragon]

Also, Exe stance CD isn't that long

[past stratus]

idk man, I used Exec for the longest time and it feels really good when you use it and get the one shot. But I just know that compared to VoC, Exec feels like griefing. And I wish that wasn't the case, as much as I like VoC as a button, I'd love to be able to chose other abilities and not feel like I'm being selfish

[void dragon]

Mate, remove the VoC from the equation, you will ALWAYS feel is superior because it is, that doesn't rob Exe stance from doing it's work, but it is indeed inferior

[marble yew]

I think maybe a cool bottom tree perk would be to carry two ranged weapons and a melee, ammo pickups split between guns

[tame lodge]

Can't dual wield

Insta trash

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-dual-guns-crazy-people-gif-21026588

[past stratus]

dual pistols 😌

for style points

[void dragon]

We know that we are saving the akimbo Shredder pistols for the Felinid class, SOON(TM) in 2030

[tame lodge]

It somehow developed enough tail strength so it triple wields it

No idea how it's going to pull the trigger with her tail

[unreal nova]

Dual bistol.

[marble yew]

Felinid furry class, kinda feels like heresy

[unreal nova]

My greymalkin D&D char does that so...

[barren nimbus]

You should be able to attach a power sword to your tail

[unreal nova]

Triple pewpewpew pistols.

[tame lodge]

Abhumans are indeed bordering heresy

Even beastmen lost their abhumn status for a while

[unreal nova]

Naw, heresy is just still believing the words of the higher ups. They care not for you at all. Love thyself.

[void dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-good-gewd-star-wars-episode-3-gif-15386400457909814305

[past stratus]

I honestly have no idea what we're getting after Arbites

there are so many possibilities

[red robin]

I just hope it’s something that rewards semi auto and automatic weapons

[void dragon]

mechanicus class is something many want, Space elfs are near us in the story so that is something to hope, felinid class is inevitable

[red robin]

40k neko arc reject names

https://tenor.com/view/opinion-vibe-gif-24179784

I ain’t judging because I’d be one of them

[past stratus]

I'm a big dwarf enthusiast but I don't think there is any reason for us to ever get the Votann involved 😭

I just want to be Bardin in 40k 😭

[red robin]

true

We are one step closer

[void dragon]

if we make a deal with the Eldar, the Votann have a chance once we actually bring the fight to the boss of Wolfer

[red robin]

We got arbites kerillian, witch hunter drip, and the spiritual successor to footknight (stagger arbitrator)

I mean psyker can be considered sienna 2 electric boogaloo, but I gotta see pyrokinetic psyker first before I lump it there

[void dragon]

summoner mechanicus is next, would make lots of sense considering Hadron's meddling on archeotech in the middle of our missions

[red robin]

If vet rework has infiltrate become huntsman 2 I’ll be forever happy

I need perma invis and I’ll die happy killing specials without chaff deciding that 90% less threat ain’t enough to stop them from hating me particularly

[marble yew]

What do you guys think could be the next class

[tepid otter]

Will there be a next one actually

I'd like to see Sororitas actually, but thats just me

[hollow ibex]

fucking stupid ass bot

[tepid otter]

lmao, wat was that

[hollow ibex]

allegedly

i would suspect it's a hive ganger

idk where the datamined information is from, so would take this with a big grain of salt

[marble yew]

Kroot seems a bit too weird tbh

[tepid otter]

Or out of place

maybe they could look into the other abhumans they got in 40k

[hollow ibex]

yeah i don't agree with OP's guess

but i mean who knows

[warm walrus]

yo, are any of the semiauto lasguns worth using or nah

i love my bolter but i wanna try smth else for a bit

[past stratus]

the Helbore is one of the best Vet weapons now

the Recon is a solid gun too

[warm walrus]

gotcha

infantry lasguns not worth?

[tepid otter]

I enjoy it alot too

[warm walrus]

i think iib was viable but it was the only one of the three when i last played

[past stratus]

idk about Infantry, I haven't used in a long time. I've seen people here defend it

while others say it is dogshit

[warm walrus]

aight

i can also vouch for helbore

i took infiltrate vet on accident and the helbore kept me from being dead weight

[tepid otter]

Try it with Executioners stance and you can melt elites with it

[past stratus]

the Helbore is really good by itself

[warm walrus]

would it be worth running the ogryn highlight perk with it?

[tepid otter]

Its actually what I use on it, I'd say its pretty worth, tho if you prefer the other targets more over the Orgyn ones its fine to change it

[warm walrus]

bet

speaking of infil vet, given there are penances i have to do with infil/smoke grenade
what loadouts would you recommend

i vastly prefer exe stance and voc isn't terrible, but infil has me going "ehh"

[hollow ibex]

infil is somewhat like worse voc

it's fun, but not as good

voc is just by far the best vet ult

[hollow ibex]

you can do the penance in mortis trials

[past stratus]

I read that people do the smoke and infiltration penances in Sefone's trials

[tepid otter]

not quite experienced myself, I mainly use Infiltrate for a melee focused Vet I saw someone used one time with the Power sword

[hollow ibex]

free grenade spam

[past stratus]

you get some funky upgrades for it in there

[warm walrus]

oh bet

[hollow ibex]

yeah you get a lot of nades

and you can make them stronger

like heal nades

[tropic notch]

What would they even do lol

[hollow ibex]

a lot of drugs, prob

[tepid otter]

eat humies

[hollow ibex]

imagine a class that's based around chugging stimms

instead of regenning nades

you regen stimms

[tropic notch]

Tbh a class centered around stims and proccing them on demand would be cool

[hollow ibex]

yeah

[warm walrus]

what's vet's best anti heavy melee

ps?

ps6*

[hollow ibex]

yes

[warm walrus]

copy

[tropic notch]

Ps, knife, dueling sword mk5

Guh

Uh

Uhhhhh

[hollow ibex]

rashad is also pretty good

taxe is decent

[tropic notch]

Yeah that

Chainaxe

[hollow ibex]

shock maul

[warm walrus]

bet

hmmmm

[hollow ibex]

plenty of good options, though ps6 is king as usual

[warm walrus]

is caxe rashad solid

i found one being sold that had 60 mob and like, that's pretty good dist

[unreal nova]

Get asap.

[warm walrus]

already did

[unreal nova]

Is solid, but prefers a right lean build.

[tepid otter]

light spam goes brrt

[tepid otter]

been awhile since i played, but is there actually heal nades?

[hollow ibex]

In mortis trials lol

[warm walrus]

caxe rashad uhhh

brutal momentum?

looking @ the hammer of the emperor doc rn

[tepid otter]

oh, kekw. honestly never did one of those yet

[past stratus]

it's fun

[warm walrus]

brumo, headtaker for perks, aaaand carapace/unarmored or elite for perks

bet

what's a good ranged weapon to pair with rashad caxe

[hollow ibex]

Anything you want because Rashad does everything

[tepid otter]

I just have Boltgun on every vet loadout I got lmao

just too good imo

[tropic notch]

Bolt pistol or revlover

[wise fjord]

Yep

I would prefer bolt pistol, though because of it’s delay explosion which does good AOE damage

[carmine zealot]

I find boltgun too clunky for weapon switching.

[quick phoenix]

What builds are recommended for auric level missions?

[wise fjord]

Which class

[quick phoenix]

...

[carmine zealot]

maybe vet?

[quick phoenix]

For veteran what builds are recommended for running auric level missions

[hollow ibex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f1c57f4-d600-4673-9d86-d7895f39af23/fresh-corpsestarch

as a starting point

[unreal nova]

Lethal prox solves it. And you want it anyway for frags.

[unreal nova]

Literally anything since skill can carry.

[wise fjord]

Yep

[wise fjord]

Best skill to use is the Voice of Command

[warm walrus]

any nodes worth on weapon specialist

[quick phoenix]

I find that the stealth is better sometimes to be able to revive teammates

[jaunty herald]

https://i.imgur.com/WYXeVeZ.png

oh yeah, praise the emperor

[warm walrus]

is just always prepared good

with weapon specialist i mean

[wise fjord]

Voice of a command has a secondary skill that allow you to instantly revive teammate in a close proximity.

[quick phoenix]

Yeah, but you have to get close, with infiltrate I can get to the person

if Im too far away

and if were in a tight stop I just go dive the backline and break the gunners

[warm walrus]

running this exact build with rashad caxe and bolter
untested

wish me luck

im gonna miss exe stance's highlight though

[quick phoenix]

goodluck

[hollow ibex]

bolter might not be the best match for this build lol you generally want fast draw weapons with WS

[unreal nova]

Have fun. Is more important tbh.

[warm walrus]

helbore?

i have uhhh

[tropic notch]

I’d take run and gun since ws gives you crit

[hollow ibex]

could work i guess, i usually do revolver/bistol/double barrel shotgun

[quick phoenix]

Damn

I was about to respond fair

[warm walrus]

bolter, plasma, iib lasgun, aaaand helbore

[hollow ibex]

to make the most out of WS you should be swapping weapons a LOT

plasma will work

[quick phoenix]

Mans got shushed

[tropic notch]

But it is nice to have if you don’t have stacks

[warm walrus]

80% damage, 75% ammo, thermal res 66%, charge rate 79%, and stopping power 80%

whatcha think can i make this work

[wise fjord]

Voice of command stagger enemies and provide over toughness to your teammate. Also the major problem are flamer and bomber if you get what I’m trying to say

[past stratus]

for the weapon specialist nodes, I like the reload one and the toughness one. But I don't think they are particularly good, they are just fun to play with

[quick phoenix]

Yeah, I understand

[hollow ibex]

it'll be fine

[warm walrus]

aight

w/ bolter exe stance i just magdump bosses

what do i do in this build w/ plasma do i charge up or spam fire bosses

[hollow ibex]

plasma is never charged

you use uncharged shots to quickly dispatch elites/specials

[wise fjord]

Charge up takes to long

[hollow ibex]

and then switch back to melee

[warm walrus]

copy

[tepid otter]

oh dang, whats that

[wise fjord]

Go with Conditioning for your key stone with the plasma gun so that you will only need to deal with the overheating.

[lusty jewel]

Is gets hot and blaze away the default blessings you want for Plasma Gun?

[jaunty herald]

mortis trial buff

[lusty jewel]

ty I have one plasma gun with 60% charge rate and one with 60% thermal resist but looks like you want one with a bit in each

[scenic bear]

69 resist and 71 charge rate

Allegedly

[tame lodge]

@tired egret

[agile finch]

what is this from

[hollow ibex]

path's in progress vet guide

[lusty jewel]

That's such a specifically rough one to get

[hollow ibex]

yeah dumped 2.5m

didn't get a perfect one

[lusty jewel]

I also dumped a ton not that much but

Not sure if I should settle for dumped thermal or charge rate in the meantime

[hollow ibex]

as long as you can get 8 shots

you're good

so the one that didn't dump thermal resist

[lusty jewel]

Gotcha

[loud belfry]

68 is the true perfect one

but not all 68s can do it because le decimals

[lusty jewel]

Man the RNG on weapons is much better than it was

But it is still rough trying to get exact perfect stats like this

[hollow ibex]

yup

[lusty jewel]

Does venting damage go through toughness and deal health damage on the plasma gun?

Or does it just do toughness damage unless you have no toughness then it does health

[tame lodge]

Toughness damage

[lusty jewel]

Okay sweet

[tame lodge]

If no toughness then health

A long time ago it was straight up health dmg

[lusty jewel]

That's what I remember

That's why I ask

[zenith carbon]

why is the 12 chaxe considered so much worse than the 4? ive been using them both and they both feel good

aurics and mid havocs

on psyker and zealot too

[marble yew]

IM GONNA LOSE IT

I queued that game specifically just to finish it 😔 '

[warm walrus]

@hollow ibex update

definitely feeling voc's benefits

that thing's huge for phage tree

plasma's also serving me really well, pity about the upcoming nerf

[hollow ibex]

i imagine it'll be more a rework than a nerf

[warm walrus]

fair

but yeah voc saved my ass on phage tree, exe stance just wasn't enough

that said ws needs some time to adjust to

i keep swapping weapons and wasting the buff

[zenith carbon]

as long as youre getting a few melee kills before swapping its fine

and it only lasts 5 seconds anyway

[hollow ibex]

the loop for WS is: 3 melee kills, 1 ranged kill, then back to melee

[warm walrus]

aight

i do it out of combat tho and my heart sinks every time

[keen coyote]

Any suggestions for Blessings for Boltgun?

[past stratus]

I feel like that for WS it is a matter of instead of wanting to proc it all the time, having the knowledge that when you swap you have those buffs

[keen coyote]

Using Pinning Fire and Puncture rn

[past stratus]

because trying to swap when you don't need to just to get the buff will get you killed

[hollow ibex]

that's prob the optimal combo

[keen coyote]

Ty, came back to Darktide a little bit before the Arbites release so getting caught up with everything.

Think I stopped playing right before Havoc came out.

[tropic notch]

what perks?

[faint beacon]

Auric or havoc

[tropic notch]

havoc

does it really need serrated?

like with shovel

[faint beacon]

Flak Unarmored

[manic badger]

Which helbore is the "good" one?

[faint beacon]

Also paired with Exploit yes if you want to shit on Bosses

helps with armor as well

[tropic notch]

guh

i see

[past stratus]

depends on preference but I'd say it is between III and IV

[tame lodge]

3 or 4

3 is comfy

4 is the hardest hitting weapon in the game

[tropic notch]

gonna use ws wif aggir shotty

[past stratus]

4 with weight of fire is pretty comfortable imo but 3 is definitely a better start if you're learning the weapon

once you're comfortable with 3 you can swap to 4 for more precise target picking

[manic badger]

Are the D claws actually good now?

[hollow ibex]

nope

[tropic notch]

@faint beacon why is it so good?

the hell

its crazy

https://tenor.com/view/love-and-joy-dancing-cat-heart-is-full-of-love-and-joy-trinkets-trinkets-and-toys-gif-8137689065499612543

[neat berry]

Ive been testing this in the psycharium for like 10 minutes and i feel like im going crazy

Does Ranged Finesse really just give bonuses against armoured enemies?

this cant be right

[low oar]

It should just be crit + headshot damage

[past stratus]

if you inspect a weapon and hover over a status, in this case, finesse. It will show you exactly what it does

and numbers for it

[smoky pivot]

Hello veteraners

[tropic notch]

dis was fun on vet i ran into reapers and died because i thought i was playing zealot

then i had to remind myself im vet

nearly did 800k

tested it in a havoc 27 i lfg for

you know the builds good when you think your playing a diff class

[unreal bone]

My god man havoc difficulty is just so unfun

I can't even imagine what havod 40 is like if you get 2 daemonhosts, 2 plague ogryns, and a horde of crushers on just havoc 23

30 seconds into the fucking mission lol

[tropic notch]

I get off at 8 cst tomorrow if you need help still

It’s not that hard

[unreal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-nuclear-fission-explode-meow-shockwave-gif-8225436751132677174

[tropic notch]

Your team is probably making it harder

I had to fight a dh, twins, and a beast at the same time because instead of dying the psyker pushed to medicade and triggered a bunch of bosses and left

Luckily I just finished a horde

Was still terrible tho

[tropic notch]

Are you using vet?

[unreal bone]

No I'm on zealot right now bro and it's just like

Genuinely it feels like sometimes havoc is not doable lol

I'm on Havoc 23 Power Matrix HL-17-36 with heinous rituals and final toll.

And I shit you not

[amber cliff]

You get some horse shit in that mode it’s true

[unreal bone]

Hexbound Daemonhosts on the other side of the map are activating for no reason

You know Power Maxtrix HL-17-36

When you get to that room that's separated by a narrow bridge and

Like right past this area lol.

[amber cliff]

Ahhh yes

[unreal bone]

Like 30 seconds after the first medicae of the mission

[amber cliff]

That one

[unreal bone]

Yeah a daemonhost ON THE COMPLETE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP

activated

At the same time as Chaos twins

ontop of a horde of crushers

And I shit you not 10 seconds later

a Chaos Captain and a Plague Ogryn spawned in the same room, real ones not weakened.

The 3 bolter team consisting of 2 arbis both using doggo bomb, a veteran, and a flamer zealot with cross buffs and nothing lol

[unreal bone]

Bit of an understatement sometimes it just feels like your doomed to derank a level when you keep getting 5 full health real non-weakened bosses in the same room.

[narrow frost]

It's meant to be hard and challenging

Especially if you don't understand triggers

[amber cliff]

I do not understand triggers pls tell me

[unreal bone]

Brother there's hard and challenging and there is bend over and get fucked.

Karnak twins secret hard mode was hard and challenging

a Hexbound daemonhost spawning on the other side of the map so we can't stop it

is not hard and challenging

that's ass

[narrow frost]

Every spawn has a trigger tried to progression (distance into a map)

Hexbound, twins, bosses, captains, patrols

Everything

If you cross a spot on the floor, that could've been a trigger

With knowing where and what triggers are which

That opens how much room you can kite

And how many enemies you are allowing to spawn

Kuli/combine/Jsat probably have a video somewhere about triggers

[nova surge]

it could just be bugged though

[narrow frost]

Bugged what?

[nova surge]

this is ObeseMEgalodon

a daemonhost activating rooms away?

[narrow frost]

Yes, certain hexbound have confusing triggers

[nova surge]

sounds like classic Fatshark moment TM

[unreal bone]

Yeah that was fucking ass

[narrow frost]

But bugged ones always are so you can learn

[unreal bone]

It was so ass that I'm pretty sure not even a shroudfield zealot could have made it over there in time to stop it

[narrow frost]

When you pass that doorway

[nova surge]

i'm not disagreeing to be clear here, i'm just saying i woulnt be surprised if it was a trigger or if it was a fatshark momento

[narrow frost]

Run across the room to kill it

[unreal bone]

You can't run across the room to kill it

[narrow frost]

That doorway triggers fast ritual

You can

[unreal bone]

There's karnak twins and a wave of crushers

in a tiny hallway

[narrow frost]

I did it on my havoc 40 slap only

Then you misplayed

Apologies, it happens

[unreal bone]

They spawned at the exact same time.

Off of the same trigger

What was the misplay going through the only fucking doorway in the map?

[narrow frost]

[unreal bone]

Was the correct move just to leave mission

Cause there was only one door to go through

and one trigger to hit

[abstract sand]

I would agree with you if it was not Havoc 23

Everything below 30 is very doable

[unreal bone]

That situation was not doable

You had only ONE door you could go through, and going through that door triggered 5 fucking bosses

[abstract sand]

yeah that sounds like the havoc experience

[unreal bone]

Real bosses not weakened

Karnak twins, hexbound daemon that was unreachable to stop, Chaos Captain, Plague Ogryn

[abstract sand]

also low to mid havoc usually have players of questionable quality

[agile mango]

on vet, is flesh tearer still better than lacerate?

[abstract sand]

i just run a dumbshit build, get my havoc 40 assignment for the week, and never touch havoc again for that week

[tame lodge]

Lacerate is dogshit

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[abstract sand]

pls dont take lacerate

i will cry

pls

if u take any bleed blessings

use flesh tearer........

[agile mango]

thx lol

for some reason big dom has lacerate on his grenade vet

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da01edf-f8d2-4364-9ae1-19595f9feba2/big-doms-grenade-veteran-havoc-40-team-build

[abstract sand]

wow this build is

I'm gonna use my nice words.

[frank basin]

I been playing mk1 dclaw lately with 10% speed bonus.

Killing trash mob feel ease, elite like rager none armor is okay.

Outside mauler and carapace enemy

[lost silo]

which chainaxe and chainsword are superior again

[unreal nova]

I mean, I run it if I don't go serrated by skipping extra frag.

[unreal nova]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f383935-9a34-4d8e-83d3-dbcca9a36a09/another-nadier-build

[grand perch]

hadnt tried buffed agrip shotty yet. its gotten pretty nuts

[umbral scaffold]

which combat shotgun is everyones fav

[umbral scaffold]

howd u get scope?

mod?

[dry cloak]

its a mod

[safe kiln]

Agri shotgun

Tho I’m ass with all the shotguns because it hurts me to not instantly reload after every shot.

[open ravine]

The weapon customisation mod if you are curious and you get it off the official darktide modding discord

[steep flower]

Tac Reload uncluded in the build; mah man knows; I am glad

[tacit sonnet]

How much cleave does plasma have?

[crude wind]

New combat shotguns legit all slay.

[unreal nova]

I think it was 50 quick, 100 charged.

[crude wind]

Hope they do something about the fire shell/wide shell specials

[steep flower]

Why you need to know; you dislike vets

[tacit sonnet]

Because I dislike vets

And someone said that plasma has like 8 cleave

and I had to prove them wrong

[unreal nova]

I think they mean, will cleave through at least 8 things.

[tacit sonnet]

no, they meant it has like 8 cleave

[unreal nova]

Then they are wrong.

[tacit sonnet]

Exactly

I told them plasma has infinite cleave, but I was NOT 100% sure

[unreal nova]

Not inf.

[tacit sonnet]

Not 100% sure

[unreal nova]

Cap is still crazy high though.

I think they meant the soon to be nerfed maybe values.

But they think it is in play already.

[grand perch]

its 50 / 100

light heavy

[unreal nova]

So I was right. Heh.

[abstract sand]

the agri is cool

[nimble wadi]

I really want my grenade build to work but the 5% regen proc on elite kill seems to rarely proc

Even when team is killing tons of stuff in coherency

[unreal nova]

Don't remind me of my luck.

[nimble wadi]

I take all the grenade perks and I’m like oh cool I’m gonna be spamming grenades left and right

And then I feel like I have just as much available as any other build lol

So I’m wondering if it’s just a trap/gimmick

[past stratus]

I don't take any of the rng talents

For grenade

[unreal nova]

Is just luck based. Not as fun but is as is.

[lost silo]

which chainaxe variant is better

[normal bay]

IV

[lost silo]

ok thanks

[short basin]

is the dump stat of the duelling sword mobility or cleave damage?

[inland orchid]

Mobility imo, swords already hella light

So a lowering in mobility shouldn’t hurt

[scarlet crescent]

nice mountain king pfp

[unreal nova]

Either is fine. Mk 2 is mobility dump, mk 4/5 is cleave damage/def dump.

[short basin]

k thanks

[stiff glacier]

zarona

[grand perch]

agrip by far

accatran is still icky and the worst of the bunch imo, though i havent tried the new zarona

[elder vessel]

I like the fire shells

[grand perch]

they do so little damage to anything except trash horde

[atomic void]

agripinna might as well be a semi auto rifle lmao

[tacit sonnet]

cleave

If you use 4

It doesn't cleave like at all

I think other marks might be better at cleave so mobility is dump for those

[elder vessel]

dont find a dump stat for duelling sword, dump the duelling sword itself

[hollow ibex]

My bolt action rifle larp

[atomic void]

people be like it lacks da oomf

its a long range weapon

[past stratus]

tried the revolver for the first time

best gun

[sonic kayak]

@analog pebble

[faint beacon]

Agri CS is literally

Click on head

Enemy die

Simple as

[nimble wadi]

What perks/blessings do you use for zarona

[nimble wadi]

Unless you don’t hit the breakpoint

Which seems to happen a good amount

[stiff glacier]

no respite and full bore/death spitter and +25 flak and maniac/unyielding

[nimble wadi]

Isn’t using full bore not the best on that since the pellets are spread out

Correct me if I’m wrong

[hollow ibex]

use agri instead

join the slug cult

[faint beacon]

Minimum pellet count + the Agri choke on aim nearly just makes it a comically large bullet

[nimble wadi]

No I mean for the zarona

[faint beacon]

Same situation

Both have very small chokes

[nimble wadi]

I’ve been using agri, I like it a lot, just sometimes have trouble hitting breakpoint

[faint beacon]

That and minimum pellet count

[nimble wadi]

What’s the difference between zarona and agri then

[hollow ibex]

agri is better

[faint beacon]

Agri has more ammo

Zarona literally only does slightly better Weakspot damage

Agri has an instant bulwark open button

Aka slug

Zarona doesn’t

[hollow ibex]

but zarona gets a really cool spreadshot

which is pretty much a worse version of the exterminator's primary fire

[midnight totem]

My game bugged out and I couldn't swap to grenades

Finished that game but man that was painful as a vet with no grenades.

[hollow ibex]

oof

[midnight totem]

Bug continued after that game though

Psykanium? No swap to blitz

On any character (I changed operatives several times)

Arbitrator, Psyker

Put up a bug report, I hope FS can fix it

[unreal nova]

Tried tabbing?

Or the back button on controller.

Just wondered if it's the same issue I had awhile back.

It was fixed by tabbing and untabbing.

[midnight totem]

I did

[past stratus]

I get that one sometimes, it is really just tabbing out and in again

[red robin]

They should just rework it into the traitor captain shotty with a drum mag, or make that its own variant

I’m praying for next update after their vacation

When does that usually hit?

September/october?

I just want the vet n zealot rework

[faint beacon]

It’s most likely going to be Zealot rework

And we’re probably gonna get a weapon at most to make up for being next in queue

[upbeat horizon]

they annouced rework? why so ?

[hollow ibex]

cuz zealot tree sucks ass

[nimble wadi]

Is power sword viable in havoc? I haven’t used it much and I heard it has horrible mobility

[unreal nova]

You mean 2 weapons. One promised, one to tide us over.

[hollow ibex]

yeah it's vet's best melee after all

the mobility is fine... it's just the dodges

[nimble wadi]

That’s what I meant

[hollow ibex]

you get used to it/WS helps

[nimble wadi]

What do you take on it? Power cycler, rampage, flakiac?

[hollow ibex]

pc4 + brumentum / maniac + carapace

[barren nimbus]

Poor zealots with really good perks they have to take

[hollow ibex]

why even have a talent tree if you have one viable build

[barren nimbus]

On zealot I’ve at least taken different auras.

Thats cool

On veteran I’ve taken one aura

The keystone situation is pretty similar besides zealots keystone being a lot better

[hollow ibex]

vet has better build variety, though not by much

vet's weaker as a class though

[lost seal]

To the level 249 DS vet who raged quit because they kept running 100+ meters ahead and kept getting downed and dying, thank you for leaving. We got a team player replacement who was much better than you

[hollow ibex]

zealot's doing ok still powerwise

just has no variety in the tree

you really should just be taking that single aura

then your keystone

and FOTF

that's basically it lol

[barren nimbus]

The only variety you have on veteran is dont take a keystone to take ogryn damage, but zealot can take their keystone and get ogryn damage

[past stratus]

Zealot at least can also do Book instead of fotr

[hollow ibex]

book 🤮

choir boy

[barren nimbus]

I actually made a pretty unique havoc 40 build with the thunder hammer and prioritizing melee damage with chastise. I’d say that is leagues more varied than anything veteran can do, the only issue is it was less effective and much harder than being a book bitch

[past stratus]

it's funny because I used to see Book pretty often before the patch and now I never ever see it, and as far as I know there weren't any significant changes to Zealot

[tame lodge]

Book

[nimble wadi]

Gotcha

Dump stat?

[past stratus]

I rather see book than witnessing what I saw today, a recon zealot charging walls for toughness and dying

[tame lodge]

Recon on zealot

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[hollow ibex]

cleave targets

[livid hill]

Zealot and recon doesn't sound like it meshes well

Mostly sounds like a waste of ammo

[past stratus]

Now that people are getting bored of arby and going back to their other characters, I've been seeing some questionable shit out there

[gilded rock]

Veteran has a lot more viable variety than zealot

Not all of their builds are cracked, but many are usable

[atomic void]

ye vet has more

[nimble wadi]

Vet is the sexiest class tho

I want loose cannon to buy me dinner 😍

[tame lodge]

Bro really thinks LC will spend money on someone else

💀

[past stratus]

going on a date with a guy that won't shut up about cadia 😭

[gilded rock]

"Vet has no build variety" mfs when I show them DB WS, bistol shredder spam, helbore exe stance, recon focus target, plasma anything, bolter anything, hlasp marksman, etc.

Zealots when I feed them their The Build But With a Different Keystone slop

[gilded rock]

Loose Cannon is too busy insulting teammates for making callouts even though they themselves spam callouts every two seconds

[leaden condor]

Traxis something

[livid hill]

I want to eat them /pos

Lc best girl

[midnight totem]

well, I guess we need new rejects somehow

[barren nimbus]

The two characters literally have 1-1 identical build varieties. It’s literally take martydom or the left keystone, and veteran is take weapon specialist or the spot keystone, and then for zealot and veteran its like maybe take ogryn slayer and maybe take a nade perk, and zealot its maybe take the backstab perk

[atomic void]

marty is like third choice

[teal canyon]

fatshark logic:
lasgun - have recoil
hellgun - what recoil?

why do using a lasgun feels like pinishment?

[atomic void]

cause the weapon hasnt been updated in a while

[bold sierra]

failed the Havoc 40 but had a pretty good game with Executioner Stance Bolter. Our psyker really did not do too good tho.

500k with inferno staff, how did that happen :\

[agile mango]

anyone have a good havoc 40 vet build that doesn't use DS4 or plasma?

[bold sierra]

boi I have a ton

[gilded rock]

There are more usable talents in vet's tree by far, there are less talent points locked behind unlocking your blitz, every blitz goes through the same chokepoint, there is almost no tax for going through a chosen aura in comparison, every aura's pre-selection talents have decent picks, and there are a lot of ways to navigate through the bottom of the tree. This culminates into some unique playstyles that, even though not all are extremly powerful, most choices you make in vet will result in a usable, distinct playstyle vs. zealot's "hit things with a different flavor of hitting things as the keystone, and every single talent selection before keystone area being the exact same"

[agile mango]

they all strong in havoc?

[bold sierra]

dude I played executioner stance bolter, shout with inf lasguns/helbore

hell even a bit of camo bolter

helbore with dclaw

[agile mango]

exe stance is hard to pull of lol

for basic VoC spam, what do you recommend?

[bold sierra]

it'ss high skill ceiling for sure, but it can be hella great, bolter works best with it cuz armor-dmg and really good breakpoints, and boss killing

[agile mango]

I feel like I have too little durability when I'm on exe stance vet T_T

[bold sierra]

helbore is really sick now, you can go bolter with VoC that's pretyt basic. But personally I really like running Infantry lasgun with it lol

[sudden cedar]

@agile mango @steep flower Agripinaa Combat Shotgun (or whatever the Fire Ammunition one is) and Chainaxe

[agile mango]

did they buff helbore? I still can't see shit with the iron sights and weapon customization causes memory leaks for me. Also, can you send me your basic bolter VoC build?

[bold sierra]

yeah ur a glass cannon with it, I gotta take 2 toughness-replinishment nodes with it, and you DEFINITELY have to dodge a lot. But it really has great value lol, stance bolter can delete crusher horde really fast too, like 2 bolter headshots per crusher

[bold sierra]

yeah one sec lemme see.

[bold sierra]

honestly you can do whatever you want with the last 2 points. Melee to your preference, I do like to take Dclaw cuz it's really insane vs Dreg Ragers in a pinch but it's up to you. Melee you wanna fill in for like general horde-clear and kiting around and stuff.

[elder vessel]

First Choice

[agile mango]

ty!

[tame lodge]

"Training mode on"

[trim badger]

The same as a ds4 plasma build but change it to knife and hellbore

[warm schooner]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da7999f-314a-47e5-a245-2df66897ac31/ammo-fountain-havoc-40

not my build, Scabs came up with it

playtested it a lot, very effective

can swap the ds4 for a taxe, shovel, or w.e you feel

[narrow frost]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9eef9e6c-a634-498c-a420-3c6e67e30c25/ainz-vet-troll-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

I use this

[faint beacon]

Throwing…

[narrow frost]

trolling

smh

[grand perch]

mobility 54% on shotgun unplayable

[narrow frost]

gg

[heavy rover]

here's my build I use for havoc https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f3c6424-3c04-4446-9875-2fcdecb5b950/flexible-helbore-grenadier-havoc

there's flexibility in the build (examples in the bottom of the page)

[grand perch]

cutthroat wont be stopped. except by veteran stamina regen

[faint beacon]

Asthma attack

[past stratus]

"yeah yeah Cadia is gone, we know now would you shut up about it?" <---- Professional

[grand perch]

prof was too busy shining commissars boots to look up and notice cadia's gone

[past stratus]

it caught me by surprise when I first heard the cut throat and professional dialogue about Cadia

because he is usually pretty well behaved

[candid agate]

least hard cutthroat line:

[past stratus]

I laughed because I can't stand the Cut Throat's constant sulking and complaining

[unreal nova]

So voltaic melee vet. A certain DMC track plays.

[past stratus]

I have one Cadian character, my Ogryn and he doesn't even know Cadia is gone

[unreal nova]

Lmao.

[grand perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1389318037001343230/nice.mp4?ex=686b6f00&is=686a1d80&hm=888d33e5dd615a86ed6b2a76902dceb9a0bc5f5daf289a4443dade49194d56ff&

you just gotta be nice to her for once. call her a precise killer on your next date

[past stratus]

lmao never heard that one before

[faint beacon]

My GOAT Fatalist

Managing to woo the Female Cutthroat and make friends with Male Loose Cannon

[grand perch]

impossibru tasks

[past stratus]

I really like the Batman Arbites

it never fails to make me chuckle

the voice is so over the top

[faint beacon]

FAILURE TO ADVANCE FORWARD, MANDATED EDICT: CASTRATION

[past stratus]

I love playing my psyker with them

"Yes beloved, the oppressor is good at killing"

[bold sierra]

bro probably got his larynx fucked up during mission from like chemical attack or sum lol

[grand perch]

maul is an absolute bastard, the worst of all the rejects. i dont think he even pretends to value the lex outside of it giving him a free pass to do violence
its nice how FS didnt water him down

imperiums full of guys like him

[past stratus]

also am I tripping or they added a lot of dialogue for the seer? And he keeps lore bombing constantly now

[faint beacon]

Bonus points to my GOAT absolutely laying into him for it

Fatalist always calls him out for using it to kill or enact violence and absolutely calls him a pussy for making threats towards him or other rejects

That’s why he’s my goat

Fatalist fucking HATES him

[grand perch]

fatalist is the most experienced / longest serving arby of the bunch i think? he musta seen plenty of maul types

[faint beacon]

Most laid back as well

Authoritarian is clearly new

[grand perch]

i like fatalist but fem fatalist sounds kind of...boring

[faint beacon]

Truth nuke

Male is far more flushed out imo

[past stratus]

I was expecting all the Arbites to be harsher on the rejects, but they are not too bad with the threats

[faint beacon]

Female Maul actually is pretty good

She’s like Fem Cutthroat in the sense of

Has an actual personality

[unreal bone]

I genuinely don't know why I pick up psykers for havoc missions

90% of them fucking blow

[grand perch]

authoritarian is my choice because she's not particularily cruel and just puts the law above everyone.

[faint beacon]

Outside of the funny gimmick the personality is known for

[atomic void]

male maul is the best personality tho

[faint beacon]

Yeah but my GOAT clears him any day

[hollow ibex]

ATTENTION BLOCK FODDER

[bold sierra]

Kerillian is always a vibe

[faint beacon]

TRY TO RUN, PLEASE DO! IT MAKES IT FUN!

[atomic void]

i keep switching between all 3 they nailed the voices so hard
authotorian = the new kid to the block, idealist af and bro is like the perfect brainwashed soldier
maul = complete utter piece of shit (peak)
fetalist = le complex snarky man

[past stratus]

my favorite line is the Batman Arby using Break the Line or whatever the dash ability name is "I AM THE LEX" it is the equivalent of the fanatic Zealot with FOTR "FOR THE GOD EMPEROR"

[grand perch]

good summary

i feel like fatalist is authoritarian with experience at times

after seeing to many injustices in the name of the lex

[atomic void]

fetalist is the guy that spent too much time in the force and became jaded

[faint beacon]

The war and just nature of 40k will easily weather down anyone

[grand perch]

assume fetal position

[faint beacon]

That’s why I play Fatalist and Loose Cannon

[atomic void]

it kinda feels like the maul and fetalist are the evolution of the authoritarian
you either turn into a piece of shit or jaded more humane individual

[grand perch]

reasonable take

[faint beacon]

Look I fucking love how Fatalist gives Maul huge shit for clearly using the Lex as an excuse to attack and harm anyone

[grand perch]

i just thought maul would rip into savant psyker more

[atomic void]

yeah maul is a fuckign thug lmao

[faint beacon]

As well as finds the Loose Cannons realist approach to be respectable lmao

[grand perch]

didnt hear them call out savant for being wannabe cop yet

[faint beacon]

Like there’s no way they aren’t friends lmao

[past stratus]

I don't think I ever heard any of the arbites being specially mean to Psykers

[faint beacon]

I recall Fatalist is semi neutral with them

[grand perch]

authoritarian actually steals zealots voice line and is sad about psyker death "it was my liability!"

[faint beacon]

Maul I believe does lay into Savant

[atomic void]

btw i still cant tell if banter is not fixed or maul is just not very........talkative?

i know he's le anti social but i'd rather have him speak and be a bastard than not talk

[grand perch]

thats maul for you

bonus wholesome arby

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kBVzMrVy6Uuvh9elc?invite=cr-MSx0UncsMTA3NDAxNTcz

Can’t tell me Auth is absolutely green

[grand perch]

karkin newby arbys

[faint beacon]

I refuse to believe such

[grand perch]

thats the greenest thing he says tho

if he doesnt get the vibes of karking hes got no clue

[faint beacon]

A shit ton of guardsmen say karking

[grand perch]

exactly

[faint beacon]

Professional says it rarely and Cutthroat even says it like Once

[grand perch]

and if he doesnt know that makes auth very green

[agile mango]

thank you!!

[agile mango]

why double barrel?

[narrow frost]

fun

and mixed horde/rager clear

[tropic notch]

Peak it’s just so peak

I also love seer, loner, and judge

And Agitator

Id expect loose cannon have more brutal lines than cutthroat ngl

https://youtube.com/shorts/3rZoCgub2Xw?si=vwk-iAXMxixtis5p love this

[reef basalt]

guys how do i make my grenade not bounce?the frag penance

[crimson wyvern]

Shovel rework where if you jump and use the shovel you jump into the air and can combo the shovel jump over and over if you just keep timing it right and you go from enemy head to enemy head

[grand perch]

brillant

[crimson wyvern]

Throw it really really far

[reef basalt]

how far, like really realy far?

[crimson wyvern]

Like you're going for a sniper

[reef basalt]

okok thanks

[crimson wyvern]

no worries

the bit before the main last objective of Hab Dreyko is where I got mine, in that enclosed room before air lock

if you wanted a good place

usually crawling with shit in there and hard to miss someone

[sudden cedar]

@reef basalt It may be that the Smoke Grenade also works for this

[crimson wyvern]

I think that pennance specifically mentions Krak

unless its bugged then ignore me

[torpid sinew]

that one was meant for the shredder grenade

it was one of the original penances

[faint beacon]

Kraks can easily cheese it

[reef basalt]

it sais frag

for somereason

i dont knwo if other nades other than shredder work

[midnight totem]

they do, smoke works better then krak though

[sudden cedar]

@reef basalt Must have been something else then

[halcyon sigil]

45 degree angle upwards should get it airbursting, practice in psykanium to find the range then do it in one of the lower difficulties where the grenade oneshots more easily but not too low or youll never find a group big enough to use it on

maps with a long open zone at the start like the ones with big bridges can be a good place to try it

and yeah shredder is the grenade to do it with (that pennance is an old one from before the classes got proper skill trees with grenade options)

krak might work? smaller blast radius is just going to make it harder for yourself

[frank basin]

When you see the line it will show where it end and it will detonate it.

[halcyon sigil]

oh wait was it always hit and not kill? dont worry too much about the difficulty then i guess

[gilded rock]

I like the idea that he felt the need to restate the compliment because of the fact that you just got obliterated by a sniper

[grand perch]

[gilded rock]

Her nonchalantness despite this kills me

[grand perch]

yeah that was ironic as all hell

[tame lodge]

Shobel Night

🗣️

[crimson wyvern]

yes. But also I played monster hunter errr the not shit new one....

Wilds? The one with Japan in a lot, and I loved how the insect glaive just lets you bounce around in the air

oh I think it was Rise

[tame lodge]

Idk

[crimson wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/herisson-hedgehog-gif-5306214

[faint beacon]

@grand perch Got more Fatalist LC Banter

one second

H40 gameplay though so you'll hear Ainz lmao

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kDm3XvcT3xNW3NQuU?invite=cr-MSxISHosMTA3NDAxNTcz

[grand perch]

i dont know if i can bear hearing ainz

the terror

[faint beacon]

True...

[grand perch]

3rd person

the mark of the deranged

[faint beacon]

Shit goes hard as fuck with Forceful Surpress Shield alright

[grand perch]

ha LC gets his due for once

[faint beacon]

There's no way they aren't bound to be friends LMAO

[grand perch]

it will be a sad day when fatalist inevitably dies from ork snipers

[faint beacon]

Hot take: I would've been cool if death response lines would've been based on Class + Personality instead of just Class

[grand perch]

agreed

[gilded rock]

Friendly voiceline between one personality and another personality, then a minute later one of the two dies and the other goes "bitch ass zealot died" just because of the class

Rejects can appear very bipolar at times

[distant plaza]

can i get some opinions on boltgun blessings for heresy/damnation difficulty?

[agile mango]

what blessings/perks on PS? also, is vraks V IAG viable on havoc 40?

[narrow frost]

try carapace + unyield. Brutual + Power cycler. Cleave targets dump mk6. and yes it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3K8JmZ2Iks&t=914s

here is me using the IAG

[grand perch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hof73e-1EPQ

[sonic pecan]

what perks/blessings for the agri BAG?

[tame lodge]

The trashcan

Deathspitter + Fire Frenzy/Hit & Run

Good old flakiac

[unreal nova]

I wish more people knew... I saw someone using it and doing basically no damage even on heresy.

[warm walrus]

messing with vet inf. lasgun and recon

how valuable is shock trooper

[tame lodge]

Ok for recons

Optional for ilas

[warm walrus]

copy

[tame lodge]

Yeah, in theory there should be enough ammo around for ilas, which already has good ammo economy

Or if you're running survivalist then no need for shock trooper on it

[warm walrus]

Yeah I got surv

Horde clear: [SP → BC → s.L1 → s.L2 → s.L3]
Single target: [SP → BC → s.PA → s.L4 → s.L1]

sp is special for power sword, but what's bc?

[iron marten]

Block cancel

[warm walrus]

ah aight

so after that i just push attack into 2 lights?

[hollow ibex]

for single target?

yes

[iron marten]

Yep

BC just makes going into push attack faster

[warm walrus]

aye aye

[iron marten]

Same with the horde clear actually

[warm walrus]

lemme share builds here

have no idea what im doing for the most part

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f5446b3-57a9-4161-8c5d-57955aa449de/ilasrashad-build

ilas/rashad

[hollow ibex]

i'm afraid your build is going to make some hard choices...

iron will is non-negotiable

you also really need o4b

ammo is kinda a wasted talent, so you're effective paying 2 points for sup complex

[warm walrus]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f54487f-be7a-48b7-9404-49be402a80f9/reconps
recon/ps btw

[hollow ibex]

which isn't really worth it

[agile finch]

wait fr

[warm walrus]

mhm, mhm

[hollow ibex]

yeah if you run out of ammo, it just means you should be meleeing more on most builsd tbh

esp on ilas

also you may want to replace elite damage on rashad with unarmored

[warm walrus]

actually i've realized tac reload i can kick no prob

[hollow ibex]

make sure you hit the one shot breakpoints against both bruiser types

with light attacks

[warm walrus]

im way too used to using bolter

[hollow ibex]

otherwise rashad will be ass

[warm walrus]

ilas does not care

aight

[hollow ibex]

yeah

ilash as good uptime, and good reload speed

[heavy rover]

for power sword, I'd say power cycler is required, but then you have flexibility between brutal momentum, sunder, and slaughterer

[warm walrus]

bruisers are the dude with maces yeah

[hollow ibex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies?query=bruiser

these fuckers

yeah

[warm walrus]

i one shot scab bruisers but dreg bruisers im not quite there

im using the 25 unarmored boost

[hollow ibex]

even with max headtaker stacks?

[warm walrus]

nope

i was testing from zero stacks

[hollow ibex]

as long as you can one shot them both at 5 stacks that's fine

the rest is just quality of life/nice to have

HT is super easy to build up in combat

[warm walrus]

copy

[warm walrus]

yeah i one shot both bruisers at 5 stacks

crusher breakpoint is 4 heavy headshots now, the other ogryns take 3 headshots

drop by one assuming crit, and this is all assuming 0 stacks and i didnt crit at all

at 5 stacks it's a consistent 3 hit

[hollow ibex]

Should be fine

Crits will happen fairly often with desperado

[safe kiln]

Desperado for +10% crit and reciprocity for even more crit on dodge

[warm walrus]

Aight

is 3 shot vs crusher in melee decent?

im used to bolter magdump

[warm walrus]

also did i do it right or do i need to change things

rashad on my other vet, serviceable or toss

[iron marten]

As long as you can kill a bruiser with one swing, it's fine

Just slap unarmoured on it

[long dove]

I mean it's close so why not?

Is unarmored really that good to use? I thought it was a bit meh since unarmored are easy to kill anyway

[iron marten]

For vet, it's needed + ht stacks to hit the bruiser breakpoint

I think if you're going full melee with +melee damage nodes you can forego unarmoured

Not too sure, would have to test

Otherwise, unarmoured + headtaker + brutal momentum is essential for rashad

[warm walrus]

Bet

[tall egret]

i thought make every shot count would take ages like gone bowling, but i completed it on my first try 💪

[clever hedge]

Good job 👍👏👏👏

[agile mango]

ty@

[faint beacon]

Yeah I hate to say it I think im not touching the Agri 9 anymore with how useless it feels in a match with any Arbitrator player

[split root]

About vet, there's one penance I don't think will be able to ever complete

[sonic kayak]

Not with that attitude

[split root]

Trust me, I tried multiple times ;-;

[sonic kayak]

What's the penance?

[split root]

On overwatch

I hate that penance so much

[chrome gust]

Yea good luck

[split root]

I have already given up on it, tbh

[sonic kayak]

That's the one to not take melee damage, right?

[split root]

Yep, on heresy or higher

To unlock a chest piece

[sonic kayak]

well let's give it a shot

I'll even go book zealot for you

[split root]

I'm fine lol, but we can try tomorrow

Because right now I'm rocking the Moebian 21st. outfits

[sonic kayak]

Too late, already booted up the game; We do it now

[split root]

My laptop's not on ;-;

[sonic kayak]

[split root]

I swear I'm not a heretic by the Throne

[serene bough]

sad my game isnt updating on steam

[split root]

Weird

[neat axle]

this is actually alot easier to be done if have Infiltration as skill. Generally recommend anything you can use to hit multi target both range and melee but normally use skill if feel to diced

especially if have a loyal ogryn make it much much easier

[split root]

I'll give it a try then, thanks for the tip

[neat axle]

Best mission if can is the one with Train dispite how it push you push to complete

it easier do to how fast you can use skill navigate around them using infaltration

and dont be to far team as they be one to catch the aggro

also make sure sub with infultration has the -90% threat

as that give longer breathing room

along two charge "Overwatch that give +1 charge"

@split root hopes this helps

[split root]

Oh, it will. Thank you!

[cedar imp]

Does sliding and/or dodging clease suppressed status?

[barren nimbus]

is the shredder damage boost even worth taking

[left crag]

if you like using special, maybe. else not

too sticky to use often for me

[barren nimbus]

meant the grenades, for a nade build

[left crag]

oh mb, yeah its decent

nice bigger radius to clear hordes

nade build is great though have not tried in havoc, doable in auric

[split root]

I tend to lean towards the kraks with my vet

[past stratus]

double frag makes a rough dense wave into something very manageable for your team to take down

even if it doesn't outright kill everything instantly it puts heavy bleeding into everything

[unreal forge]

and it's the best CC option that vet has too

[split root]

Yeah

[unreal forge]

kraks unfortunately fall off in high diffs

[split root]

I'm imagining now an arby throwing down a voltaic mine and then vet with the frags

[unreal forge]

if you can get the +1 grenade and grenade buff talents the frags get insane

demolition team and 60s recharge along

you can almost match 1/10th of the power of the rumbler

[left crag]

yeah higher difficulty crusher spam makes you wish kraks have more grenade limit

[split root]

Yeah

[unreal forge]

they should definitely go to 3 base kit, would make them more appealing

[left crag]

i prefer frags because of stagger and massive radius, anything that get staggered earned the bleed

[split root]

I'd switch the npde of the arbites hrenade that gives it 4 over to the vet

[past stratus]

that 3rd charge from frag makes a lot of difference when you're cycling through your cds

including the 60s one

[split root]

If you choose the arbites grenade upgrade he gets 4 of them

I'd switch that over to the vet, imo

[left crag]

arbites nade is just in-between frag and krak also have same amount as frag and on impact

[split root]

Yep, only difference is that the arbites nade is an impact nade

[left crag]

smaller radius than frag but the impact nades makes it good at throwing onto elites

[split root]

Yep

[left crag]

i pretend to give elites a falcon punch with it point blank

[unreal forge]

that already exists for the Vet silly

there's a +1 grenade talent for Vet

[split root]

Oh, idk cuz I never grabbed it

Ah, thanks for telling me then

[gritty mural]

lone wolf is 6 vet talents in one

[unreal forge]

it's just a bit too out of the way of The Build™ path

[neat axle]

if like me i have it where i cary +1 Grenade and on top that get one replenished every 60s it helps if use them alot. Especially the 2 grenade in 1 chance

I tend fall more on the CC+Elite/Special target ranger play

so grenades are great help especially depend my role and talent