#veteran-class
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Dclaw mk1 no gold toughness shout 
Yup; Overwatch & Low profile is one of the most underrated builds for vet - very good for range vets that want to be left alone when they gonna take care of specials & range units in the middle of a fight
If VoC works for you cool. The only time I have an issue is when people in public lobbies say you are a bad Vet for ignoring it. I have always been a Stealth build because I know how bad my public lobbies are
sounds like the problem with warframe crit numbers. people wanna see yellopw and red numbers, even if its mathmatically weaker than optimal builds. they just wanna see the pretty colors
I slice my melee left and right melee headshot horde one hit
I am yet to see a stealth vet. I hope they are good when I see one for my first impression
"oh im bad then? ok ill just fuck off and you can have all the aggro. show me how good you are while i watch"
I have always been Stealth even in to these new changes.. I only recently switched to the Hellbore IV after seeing how devastating it is at range. thats is the only changed I have made in over a year
Warframe comparrison is wild 
dare you to tell me im wrong
they are not they are more of your discount zealot more often than not
Yeah I manage get red crit damage from training wheel mod “Acuity”
Ahaha more like "Oh you think I am bad.. how would you like 3 ragers in your back? they look hungry" 😛
How frequently do you see these stealth vets?
Theyre not common
Nearly zero
theyre stealthy, so you wouldnt
Comparing Warframe to Darktide in any way is like comparing Tofu to Meat; just cause you might not feel much difference it ain't it chief 
I might try it I guess. Any modifiers that would be fun with it? Or maps?
love warframe tho
My friend like warframe but he quit for 1 year playing
then you dont know how similes work
maybe i return to it one day (when voruna prime releases
)
I’m burnout already
Pepega
Valkyr rework was once controversial
Furry
i quit warframe after i got banned for calling out a guy in chat that ws describing ways he would use a cat as a condom. got my account back, but it was a tippign point for me. its ok to be vulgar and nasty, but to call it out ws bannable? not a dev team i can suppot anymore
I saw it... its... fun; Pablo is the chad that keeps the game afloat imo
ws?
i cant use the excact words he used here. i may not get banned for saying them here, but i just morally dont want to
Okay
I got ban in helldiver official server
Joking drama vomit art react
Mod is power tripping
As I remember they will ban anyone who spam f
Now they do time out
Oh the spam f is many people doing it
i remember black ops 1 lobbies. shit posting used to have.........i dont know...more effort? not this tarded attempts at "let me be as gross as i can for shock value" horse crap the new gen of gamers seems to think is funny
Computer simulate 2009 cod lobby
i dont know, maybe im just getting old
How old
35
Don’t have midlife crisis?
statistically im past my midlife. no male in my family makes it much past 60
I’m still young
Already on long term depression
Bad time
:(
Thought heavily overthinking a lot
Tunneling vision
we are all big guys. like not fat, just......big. we are all build like refridgerators. sure its fun being able to pick up heavy crap. but my heart works overtime keeping me going because of my size. \
2nd/3rd world country? Or just job killing ya slowly?
aaahhh; be the first one to pass 60 then ez

Yeah I’m unhealthy youngling never go touch grass nor exercise
wont do it. thats what they did to my fatehr. and it didnt save him, and they caused a lot of health issues
Being 50 + is the fun times because people will "make jibes about my age" as Melk puts it.. I have received some hilarious commentary about it
if i make it past 65 i plan on faking being a dottering old man with memory issues. i wanna see how far i can get people to put up with my increasing levels of unhinged statements and actions
Oh you totally should. I like to use my age for all kinds of excuses.. and funny thing is I get away with it most of the time.. I didn't intentionally do it but the most recent was I was taking the elevator to the top office floor and a fart snuck out.. everyone looked at the young secretary as if she did it and I was like.. I sort of feel bad but I am not going to say anything
i like speaking out more in public. people are used to everyone just wandering arounf like NPC's quiet and zoned out.
when you strike up a conversation with them, you can almost see the moment you reboot their brain
Oh that is me most of the time but to be fair.. I am an Arbi main now.. I moved off from Vet. There is a reason I joke about the "Sleep Check".. When Gunners shoot at your shield it makes a loud ting sound.. It is a quick jolt to get you focused again heh
i hot block eficency on my curios and my shield for arb. up to like 80 percent? i cn just block all day long andslowely walk toward them
It has diminish value
slowely........and MENCINGLY
Block efficiency is a questionable pick in the first place
Yup. one reason I dont play Vet. I can be a complete bot.. no need to sweat to beat Auric. I remain half asleep behind my shield.. my mere existance is a win heh
it works for my playstyle
65% block efficiency is good enough other wise you get 2% for each curio 12% block eff
efficency helps block big dmg too. liek crushers and sniper shots
You can’t block overheads without the forceful subnode
Or a truly worthless amount of stamina and block eff
found out by accident
I have Last Guard for 30% then my passive for 15%. 45% block damage reduction is more than enough for me when I am on my Arbi
On my Curios I have Corruption resistance, Stamina Regen, and Sprint Efficiency.. because every team mate in my public lobby thinks they are Sonic and can speed run the level in 10 minutes
On my Vet I do that though. I have Block Efficiency, Stamina and Sprint
Push?
Push through the level
Yes but the problem is they think they can do it in half the time.. most of these random ques.. they are so determined for that, that they will be oblivious to everything else
20-25 is a leisurely pace for levels that aren’t carnival
Move while fighting hordes, blitz events, etc
No I know what you meant
I say 25-20 because I don’t think under 20 is reasonable for most levels
i do not have the forceful subnode. and i ABSOLUTELY can block multiple crusher overhead attacks. maybe its some wierd combo of my blessigns and perks, but i tested it out multiple times after it happened once by accident. thought it was a fluke and warned my friends i was just gonna try it a few times and for them to be ready to pick me up after my test failed......but it didnt
Go record it in the psykhanium
Oh you can absorb a lot of damage no doubt. I know it is a crazy idea but I do hope Vet gets a small Slab Shield with the Combat Axe.. that would be amazing. I did look at Warhammer 40K lore again and some Militarum units did indeed use small size slab shields
know what i want? i want ogryn to get a weapon thats just a pair of knuckle gloves. allow my to just rock enemies shit with my knuckles. and the special attack can be me grabbign an enemy and just CHUCKIGN their ass liek a rock
They have one handed weapons though so it wouldnt be out of the norm to add a shield to the other hand
I have heard this exact suggestion an uncountable number of times
just means its a good suggestion
Not exactly
if multiple people are coming to the same conclusion independently
You know if it gets added.. there will be meme Ogryn names.. kind of like what happend to Arbi "NoBodyCam", "Hes Resisting" and some other names I have seen
But seriously enemy manipulation beyond stagger like grabbing and throwing is probably not happening at all
you know what. ima make an arb and make him look like keaneu reeves, run the no dog talent and name him "john wick"
Mine is Dredd-Junior
So much judge dredd
I stopped counting them
i made an arb ealier named donald-j-drumph
I have dog with high block eff and run the Nuncio Aquilias
made him look like the U.S prez
I’m gonna rename my other classes judge dredd at this point
Crusher overhead block like 2.5 stam bar eaten
I usually name my characters after my DnD names.. because I have been with DnD since Version 1 of the table top. I still have it.. These DnD Rule books are so thick, I bet it would make the Lex Blush
my psyker is named Eva Braun
The lex fills a palace
Lexy Lex
Ahaha.. I was joking yesterday in the Arbi channel they need to make the Lex a shield skin.. because its so thick I bet you can block a Crusher with it
my ogryn is absolutely my favorite. i got the kreig outfit for him and his name is "Big-Kreig"
Killed a pox hound by special attack of knife it's funny
Animal aboos
It's want you to kill tho
Its a Pox Hound those a-holes deserve all the abuse. the fact they can randomly 360 spin and sprint in a new direction instantly is so annoying for ranged weapons
Shotgun it
I try when I am on my Arbi but even then its annoying to hit
What should I looking at when getting and upgrading weapons
is 80% the max weapons can be upgraded to? is there any specific stats to look for
Mostly the max stats, since that is the only thing you cannot change
80 is the max yes
Each weapon has a “dump” stat, which is the stat you want at 60
It’s usually mobility or defenses
There are specific exceptions
Yes, most weapons have a dump stat that makes little difference. Typically mobility, defences, collat, warp res but there are exceptions like plasma or ripper guns
oh ok thank you. I guess any other stats can be rerolled and changed?
like the perks and blessing i mens sorry
Yeah
cool
and if mastery gets to max of the weapon type I can upgrade the power lvl?>
Yes
There are jumps in what you can upgrade the power level to throughout the weapon levels
Basically, at mastery 19, you have access to everything important and the last lvl is for skins and the bad blessings.
I have bad aim so wanted ask is there a good supportish build?
Bolt Pistol grenade build
60s regen + demo team, shredder grenades, puncture + lethal proximity on the bistol
Thats one my Vet uses at the moment https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/veteran-squad-leader
this one has a few odd choices like going down left path instead of right or middle at the start
Yeah it seems to start as ranged focus build but then ends up as team support
its been awhile since i played vet aside from Psyker its my least played class
generally you just do this and the rest of the points are up to you
This good for versatile
But middle is probably best in terms of team support
i like right side tree cuz the 5% move speed goes a long way
How is the helbore now
ass
Didn’t they rework it?
dont know I just love the damn thing
it is one of the best Vet weapons currently
with the hardest hitting mark im able to kill crushers in 2 weakspot crits, and i'm built for comfort
if you go glass cannon i wouldnt be surprised if youre able to 1 bang em
some people don't like it because it is a slow and heavy weapon. It has a style of gameplay that some people don't like
if it takes years to pull out the weapon it better be able to delete everything in front of me like the bolter
I'll roll to my pc and grab my weird melee focused hybird 'nadier support thing.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f383935-9a34-4d8e-83d3-dbcca9a36a09/another-nadier-build Don't ask about the name. You can frag to CC and clear. Born leader with shout just ensures most people go to gold even if karked. Also works well with nades and well, stuff. Can technically run Dueling Sword and Power Sword on this, though if you go power sword, use something other than the +3 stam.
nade vet my beloved
The mark 5 is what’s best?
Survivalist to fuel self sufficiency, so everyone has more ammo.
Field Improv well, does what it says on it. Just hope the oggy with boxes or frags realise it to throw their old before using.
And in auric, you should usually be fine enough that someone else can take your share, unless director is being kark to you and you need a quick 'nade refill.
I forgot to ping, but look above.
all 3 helobres are good. depends what balance between speed and power you want
What’s the most powerful?
Gotcha
Does vet take x3 toughness main curio stat like other classes for havocs?
I do
Or stam and 2 toughness.
Mark III or Mark IV depends on your preference, III is weaker but faster, IV is slower but packs a punch
I never used MKV, it is too weak imo
which chainsword is the best
I like the mk13
is there any chainaxe variants
Yes
which one is better
The 2nd one
which is
Mk4
okah
Chainswords doing absolutely mediocre damage cause of power creep over the years
You hate to see it
I do love it though
My mk13 puts in work
Oneshot mutants by heavy attack sawing it
Absolutely beat up dogs with light1
i like beating up dogs with my fists
In game right?
It has nice pokey damage
any idea how to to the penance Make every shot Count ?
I used it last night and it was so painfully sad
The one thing it has going for it is fast lights
At least the green one
The blue one has a bit longer wind up I feel
But fast lights mean nothing when I'm hitting a mauler 100 times a minute and I've only taken half his health
The mauler just mogging you by staring you in the face as he simply just refuses to die
Double barrel and shoot hordes to ensure something is hit every shot. Then only use melee. Or revolver into crushers and bosses.
Save like 5 shots in case of trappers and burn them before the escape.
Brunt has been granting me 17% toughness curious plentifully lately. Thanks Brunt.
While Melk gives me only garbage
What's the recent plasma gun nerf?
Nvm turns out all the reveiewbombers were crying about a possible leak of future plasma nerfs
It’s a supposed rework that would be far more healthier for the state of the game cause it’s not even a heavy nerf
They're nothing without m1 spam plasma
It’s a massive buff to M2
Honestly you've gotta be all sorts of crazy to be reviewbombing darktide over that...
They’ve reviewbombed over lighter
i am testing out the shovel a bit for fun and im delighted to discover the best way to hit a gunner in the face is to stand to his side and swing it into his face
its way funnier
with a heavy
kind of like with the achyls first heavy
my chainsword does slightly more damage to flak armour than unarmoured
the chainsword is terrible at dealing with specialists
why does it do 160 to a trapper
every other weapon in this game can one shot a trapper
unless you like the bondage
without marksmans focus i cannot one shot a scab gunner with my infantry lasgun
The only legit ones are the server disconnect ones atm. Or complains about FOMO cash shop. Or new DLC class being pay2win (Even if it's third place in OPness. I suppose can be tied for 2nd if we don't consider high lvl psyker players in high havocs.)
But to a casual, that class is simply pay2win OP. Even more so than oggy due to just the sheer durablity imo.
Though oggy would beat the crap out of the crusher/maulers first.
While you are just chain staggering chipping in as Arby.
Well, I guess if a vet main is angered about how left behind vet is, would also be legit.
Arby 1 node=Vet 8 nodes.
I want a plasma pistol
Their shop system is just crap in general, I'm not paying 5 dollars for one skin for one weapon type
I mean, completely understandable. Why is totally a fair reason to downvote and complain about.
Even if ppl will say, is just cosmetics.
It's the weapon skins specifically that bother me, I don't mind it so much for character cosmetics
Well, it wouldn't be as big of a problem if the commissary was ever updated.
does helbore have high armour penetration value
Having a nice pool of play to unlock vs paid.
Comissary needs to be updated with new weapons
Bare min tbh.
No relic blade for zealot and the thunder hammer looks like it's using an old model or something

Charged shots have innate rending iirc
I heard arbitrator doesn't even have comissary items
how do i deal with bulwark alone
2 things
clarify
krak grenades 1 shot them, combat shot with the special slugs with open them even if you hit the shield, voice of command will push them over, etc.
bulwarks have a sweeping attack that leaves their right side open
so dodge the attack and dodge behind him, where he isnt armored
Does a revved attack with the chainsword do more damage if you do a heavy attack or is it better to just do rev light?

Whats even sadder is the dog is better than that node, so the dog is literally equivalent to half a veteran
i mean you can test it out in uh
what's that sefoni's training zone named again
They don't even have a commissary tab.
Yeah i know i can. Im at work rn and the question just flashbanged me and i will 100% forget by the time im able to play lol
relatable
How do you have a space in your name
I have my game only show steam names
@lost silo
A third, to be fair. So... e_e. And only costs what, 3 points to max out doggo while taking decent nodes on the way?
what
I wouldn’t even call dog tax nodes tax because the electricity node maintains 2 of your strongest other nodes far better and deal good damage over 40 minutes
that attack will leave him open for a second
dodge by and kill
if mulitple are stacked on top of each other
would work if there's only 1 bulwark and no harde
use voice of command or a barrel to topple them
Insane how they went so deep into the roleplay in creating a character and then they banned you from using spaces
or find a ledge and force them to climb which leaves them open
(they put their shield on their back)
Heavy attack does more damage, I’ll do a rev> dodge > hit Mutie while he runs passed and you’ll stick to him in the animation and kill him. For bosses I do rev lights cuz that just goes faster
Not talking about those nodes, I mean the nodes to get to them.
Hi guys i am kinda new to this game, what are the best 3 builds to use, i check the builds website but there are alot of options idk what are the best
The best veteran build is playing arbiter
Vet's death has been exaggerated 
Honestly I don't see much point until they buff veteran
Swapped to psyker atm
like i know how to play all clases they are straight forward but the vet is to complicated and i feel is week
Good to know. Thank you!
like the new arbite class is a better vet, lore and gameplay
should specify its for Agri shotgun 
I love revving a charging mutie and watching it die like a meter past me
shit all the tagging with arbites broke my mouse
use keyboard keys for tagging
i refuse
welp; next mouse will die faster 
I saw value in veteran when the stance reloaded your gun, so bolter was useable
They gave that to OGRYN???
This class has no identify
Np just remember whenever you shred and hit the target you get locked in an animation
yeah
eh it was my cheap replacement mouse
yeah
Just shout at ppl. How fun
gonna go buy proper tomorrow
there is no good spot on my keyboard for the tag
all good spots already taken
middle mouse?
Tag enemy? I use Q
Get a foot pedal
good idea

But even if the target runs past you it will still take the full damage
all do
T for tagging Best key
Or if you have mouse with extra buttons.
I used to play a lot of Battlefield so it's not really an issue, you win by spotting
Nah those are my specials/swapping
Yeah I've done the Mutie Matador a few times before. Its always good fun.
True
'combat shot with the special slugs with open them even if you hit the shield' only on agri mah guy 
body yes
but the shield; only agri
https://streamable.com/8idgsg Thats zarona... 
The sound of the special shot sounds... weird; like compressed air being released
There even anything drastically different aside from Zarona vs Agri aside of Slug being a fuck you button to Bulwarks and Duckshot being a fuck you button to hordes
why do hellbore stats lie
spreadshot still feels pretty shit tho ngl
what's being lied about? idk anything about helbore buffs
You'll never guess how a gun works
Its using uncharged damage values for its charged damage stats so it makes it look like crap on paper
Since they still work in a vacuum, not with compressed air
Recoil fair enough

But you don't need air to propel the projectile
I rarely use special shells
I mainly just aim and fire
makes sense.
Me when the condensed shot drops gunners in like a second flat
Making me realize I’d rather have something that can also fuck over bulwarks as well
Outside recon I see no reason to use the light and medium versions of a weapon class
I think I prefer the method where different weapons in a family have different fuctions
It feels weird to me that we can't dual wield our melee when using a pistol
Strange response but yeah I feel like we should get a pistol melee weapon combo for vet
Well like, good reason to run a sidearm type weapon would be that it also lets you use your melee at the same time
Dual wielding a pistol and a sword is pretty common in 40k
I would like to see a bolt pistol and chain sword dual weapon
saltzpyre is that way
I really want dualing sword + bolt pistol
please fat shark it would be so funny
Duelling sword is just a worse rapier
literally tucking your arm behind your back like a doofus

If they ever do ranged and melee combo weapons in darktide I would want to see them be ranged first with their melee being their alt attack so it's doesn't get the ranged component mega nerfed like it did in vermintide
helbore
Ogryn grenade gauntlet is actually quite good way to do melee ranged dual weapons but instead of it just being you hitting an opponent with your ranged weapon it would be an actual melee weapon you hit them with
Grenade gauntlet
imagine if it was melee slot, just going around with 2 sets of ammo
special would be parry into gun blast
Yeah vermintide has this and they just gave the ranged infinite ammo but it become an issue so they mega nerf the ranged damage
Still goated tool for plague monks
Any good weapons specialist build
yea
double barrel shotgun
I've been using the knife with revolver or shredder
But I feel like my build is crappy
Can you link me the build?
use a melee weapon with better horde clear so you can get stacks faster
what perks am i looking for on my shock maul?
Best helbore blessings/perks? new to the weapon
the ADS longer for crit is fun. guranteed crits
Personally I like running surgical + armourbane, but weight of fire also works
Semi-related: got a tattoo of my version of the Veteran symbol
Cool and what about perks
I LOVE IT
Thanks!
Stam is always good then the other is always personal choice for me
It’s what I like to use
slip up
Is this a solid enough build for db?
depends on the type of helbore you're running. the word doc in the pins has a good breakdown of the perks. I personally run maniac and unarmoured
There’s a word doc?

Hammer of the Emperor guide, check the pins
👍 ty
note that eventually it'll be migrated to a dedicated steam guide
Needs catch a breath
Is this okay?
Change Unyielding to maniac
Ok
It’s not boss dps your melee is
Also is this up to date?
could instead take survivalist to save on points and have better ammo economy
Goes hard as fuck
most of it is, you should be fine
But personally I like voc over inf
Feel free to change ft to precog or riposte
Riposte ok
Does MK 6 knife have any advantages over MK 3? I always have used MK 3 
So something like this then?
You're missing out on important nodes on the left
Hm ok
They only really need precision strike on the left
So I don't really need on your toes then>
Superiority is nice but it’s not a need
@marsh pivot try this
Drop that final node on WS, remove boss damage and toughnes
for double barrel weapon specialist it might also be nice to take opening salvo tho
Not needed
Ws already give you a guaranteed crit
true
Ok I like your build
But I wanna use infil
So I lose a point and can't get superiority
All good
Anywhere you want
Shoot for the stars
finally got the elusive 3 stam relic
who's gonna tell him 😭
Oh no
I’m sorry
But that’s a fake 3 stam
(400 3 Stams are 2 stams in game)
Brunt sold you a fake diamond
You got scammed
Show me your Veterans, Veterans.
does he know...
Gimme a sec getting ingredients to make hamburger sauce
Will share when back
Bro what
Din din?
broooooooooooooo what is that gun????
His is an Auto gun with uh
it's just a fancy Vraks infantry
Customization on
ye
Yeah
That coat is clean as hell
i remember seeing this in the shop when it came out
still sad i couldn't grab it
Updated steel legion coat
QUESTION!!!! on terrifyin g barragem that doesnt affect my melee right? only kills with the gun?
Dang commisars hiding in the bunkers while we out there getting ripped apart by xenos!
Surpression is really finicky with weather it works or not and some enemies are just immune to it like ragers, mauler and ogryn
yes, and it's useless because brautos already have a lot of suppression and a lot of enemies arent' supressable
"I know what the ladies like..."
john terminator
He r shot termuhnaters and doesn't afraid of anythings
helbore without the charge
Don't forget the mushrooms
Yup
you know what? The Infantry Lasgun should always be our best weapon or at least one of the best
since we have poses with it
Should do more damage
In lore it literally blows off limbs
Which it can in game but honestly I expected it to have more of a punch
Inquisitor Martyr does the lasgun pretty good
if they are going to rework Veteran there should be a node that goes "Good with Lasguns GIGA % Damage with any Las weapons" something among those lines
He needs a lot of changes
He’s just not fun to play atm
Needs better passive toughness gain
I have fun I just wish our talent tree wasn't so ass
srsly. every time i get on vet im like lemme make a cool build but then i remember the tree is a mess
the problem I see is that we're very squishy but we don't have a trade off for that squishness
I wouldn't mind being the squishy class if I had really good damage
Are you high
Vet is many things
unfun is not one of them
Best ammo economy in game, most nades by far, and aoe yellow toughness on short cd
DS4 and Plasma Gun
Uncanny Strike giving 100% rending
Which applies to shredders
Yet compared to arbi, ogryn and zealot, vet very much is squishier lol
Nowhere near as strong as you think
And locked to certain weapons
DS4 is very exclusive?
Those certain weapons are also the best in the game
Plasma is imminently going to be changed
Rashad, taxes, and Power Sword all good
Not available on the strongest vet melee
And plasma being changed doesnt mean it wont be great
and the other melees are better on the other classes lmao
DS4 on vet is 🤌
Zealot
I like how he keeps listing out shit available to other classes
Zealot is literally right there
And acts like it makes vet good
Plasma and DS4
FOTF = 3/4's Boss HP gone instantly
Vet can abuse Uncanny in a way Zealot cant
everyone can abuse uncanny LMAO
Ye
So how does that make vet better?
Not as effectively as vet tho
Zealot w/ DS4 is insane in melee
But applying 100% rending to shredders is also good
And again
Ammo economy
Im noticing how its only 1 build
Yellow toughness
Nades
Lol
now what does vet have
shark spotted
Zealot
Ogryn BLO keystone
Arby LW
I dont see your point of Vet being overpowered
its in a terrible state
Arby LW doesnt fix shit ammo economy or give yellow toughness or generate nearly as many nades as Vet can with 2 nodes
vet is a team buff stick at high level havocs. Unless you ainz, then you get highest damage with powersword/double barrel
Vet is strong af
So do Zealot and Ogryn
I never said otherwise
I think zealot is in a worse spot than vet. Ogryn and Arby are essentially better zealots. And that isnt to say zealot is bad, cause he isnt.
Yall are crazy. The issue with Vet and Zealot arent that they arent great.
The issue is they both each have 1 build
nah vet has more build variety
???
vet's also weaker than zealot tho
Arby and Ogryn wish they had Zealot mobility
arby does lol
Aight this is a noob take
ngl i hope they rework the vet pswords so that you don’t have to turn them on as much (ik there’s a blessing that nakes it 4 attacks instead of one but still)
Ogryn and Arby can literally play any build and make it work
Zealot and Veteran tend to get shoe horned depending on what they want to play
Ye because their trees are ass
Thus
and even then vet's just not very good lol
Wtf
You literally just proved my point
who
i mean psyker has one build basically and noone complains
melee and ranged are both straight up weaker than arby
ogryn can play any build except for burst limiter override twin-linked heavy stubber suppression build ☝️ 🤓
Just because you have like 1 build doesnt mean the class is weak
and ogryn actually
Psyker does need one
Honestly, don't stress yourself over it. Guy is known for having really bad takes in general.
twin linked stubber burst limiter override sucks compared to taunt and bull rush
doesn't have the constant infinite cleave of staffker
Psyker can handle it a bit longer seeing their class generally is incredibly good even in its current state
Vet and Zealot are- something
They're good can easily be made to be strong with the right build (Extremely small amount of builds)
everything else? kick rocks
Weak =/= poorly designed.
Vet and Zealot have a bunch of trash nodes, but their ceilings are still incredibly high due to the strength of the good nodes they have
Psyker is at least still busted output wise with risk.
Extreme minmaxxing pretty much.
would say that's somewhat true of zealot, absolutely incorrect of vet
Imo Psyker tree rework 2 would be a mix of buffs/nerfs and a tree reshuffle so they can actually make any build they wish
Jeez man, give every class VoC and every class would use VoC
They can just- rework it into DR instead cause no shit everyone hates Golden
Give every class access to Survivalist and every class would use Survivalist
No????
That's restricted to mortis inf ammo luls.
The fuck are you on about lmao
Vet has some of the strongest, most busted shit in the game and you guys are just delusional
survivalist isn't that strong
i wouldn't even take it on most builds
if it weren't for pathing
Not saying the class doesnt need help
I'll be honest I think you're delusional if you think a Melee ogryn is going to pass on their 10% melee increase aura for fucking 1% ammo back
LMAO
I do
if that's even true, you wouldn't know better
only noobs still think surv is a must-have
or people that haven't played vet in months
yah lol. I feel like I'm the last remaimning burst limiter override ogryn. All I hear about is taunt this, bully club that. Nobody wants to do the gold ol' fashioned work of putting down a wall of lead anymore
and still think that this is the old surv lol
Survivalist is goated in havoc
and yet all the games i run in havoc
Also hello
I told you, this is the same guy who ranted about countless bad takes. It's just not worth it.
Havoc
you dont need
Surv
you really dont
you just need to understand how to manage elites
you don't get it, surv literally carries havoc teams!!
hii
do you not know how to move in this game? Arby has psyker stam regen. You just dont have knife/ds sword move tech
Now we're downplaying the usefulness of survivalist. This is major cope
Heh, barring a few oggies doing it over rumbler spam.
Stam regen =/= mobility
???????
i won't complain if someone takes it. hardly makes vet ok though lmao
acting like it's some sort of run-saving aura
I guess these two just serve 0 purpose?
when it's just a "oh, i guess that's kinda nice"
Close and Kill is SO FUCKING NICE
It is just nice to have more ammo to spam things, but yeah... and since you don't even need vet for anything but that...
on the class that gets dropped kicked when they have bad stamina management in general
P much all auras arent v impactful and would be an ez skip if they werent necessary for pathing
unironically the best vet aura
To be fair, if you get so used to it, you can zealot speedrun on a knoife vet. XD
then why do you say this
is it impactful or not??
Vet arguably is the best to learn from your mistakes with
I wish vet had dd and a type of assail
yes it has VOC but it has extremely few Get out of Jail talents
Naw, just delusional. Guy always thinks his bad takes are godly.
tfw arbi got dd 
Because buffing ammo economy > "yay, 10% melee damage" that doesnt impact BPs
True, you get punished harder for every mistake.
DD but always active
trust me Psyker mains
we feel the pain
Pan to Exec stance
lmao
10% melee damage is significant, how do you know of all the different ogryn builds and melee combinations that it doesn't change breakpoints
Shush.
me looking at exe stance when castigator exists
Been enjoying ps with bolt pistol
Vets are already dying from it.
What has better bp bistol or revolver?
Look my dream rework for Vet left side would be making that entire tree focus on rewarding weakspot hits and not getting hit/hitting things consecutively without missing
thats my take
Breakpoints? Revolver.
we need a talent node that makes projectile hitboxes bigger 
I shoot stuff with plasma gun. I get ammo back because of survivalist. I shoot more stuff with plasma gun.
I zoom around map with ds4, spam shredders with 100% rending into hordes. I finish with millions of damage. I am happy Vet
that would be funny to have
Bistols lives on puncture bleedkills too much.
ehh, not really just buff the weapons hitbox at that point instead
and have a talent that makes them even bigger. aim for the legs, get a headshot 
that would be very funny
trust
"Arby has as good of mobility as Vet!" he says, as I skate around him with DS4 spamming shredders
I'd really like a talent that acts as Headtaker in a way where if you keep hitting heads you can rack up like a small % of weakspot damage
1/2 mobility tools on all classes
Arby has this also
which is pretty insane
Ppl take that node?
Yeah??????
the fact that you're unironically running DS+plasma combination tells me all i need to know about your knowledge level of the class lol
Ye
how long was the match
for you to get millions of damage
and more importantly
what was the rest of the team doing
Matches? Anywhere from 20-40mins.
Its shredders putting in work while maintaining 5 stacks of Uncanny for 100% rending
Bistol as in 100 weakspot crit as well
bit generic-ish, but he's grown on me
i like the bolter
Guys, i'm kinda tired of the power sword, any good melee weapon recommendations for high havoc? I use plasma as my ranged
POTS 2.0.?
you're getting millions of damage in 20-40 min?
i'd love to see the boards
with times
Shredders are busted. 100% rending on shredders is busted. 5% chance to get nade on elite/specialist kill by ANYONE is busted.
See enemies, throw nades
basically
Well you got options at least with Plasma, Knife, Tac Axe, Heavy Sword
tac axe isn't a bad idea
The lower part? 
brutal momentum axe i like
quickdraw stub revolver deals less damage on headshot crits than regular headshots lol??? am i missing something?
Still isn't enough for certain kills imo.
I wish vet had Immo nade
Hmm, definitely not knife or tac axe. I'll try out heavy sword i remember that being really chill with cleaving down hordes on my zealot
Uncanny acts as a buff for you and all your loadout
Get to max stacks and maintain max stacks
Chuck shredders
ok that's cool, but do you have the scoreboards where you did millions of damage in 20-40 minutes?
😎
I don't even know how they manage to even...
And what if you're not running DS4
Why do skins make the bolter look somehow ever cooler??
😎
No uncanny strike = doodoo
Power sword
Plasma gun
basically enclave
Let the world burn with molotovs?
ESPECIALLY the little attachment you can give 'em, Briggs here has the inquisitorial rosary on his bolter and given he was my first lvl 30, I like to think this bolter was specially gifted to him once he was in the warband
When min-maxed, Vet is awesome. When not, it falls behind.
High ceiling, and little to no build diversity
Exploit weakness being used??? Gale, what are you thinking.
I was under the impression for the longest time, that regular humans couldn't use bolters. People always said how strong they were and I only ever saw images of space marines with em
i tried but i hate decimator
You haven't seen the stupid shit its done
Hmmm me might try dat
SMACK SMACK SMACK
I dropped the coldest take then tabbed out to play my silly game, when I tab back to eat my pizza there is a whole ass discussion about how Vet is broken, Saturday night boogie vibes
Do you not run Uncanny?
Totally fair, me too-color me very surprised to see imp guard officers using them
Heavy bolters tho I get cuz tripods
Oh, I know. I used to run it on knoife. It's funni, just prefer the toughness safety net.
Scab Captain curling up into a ball and crying as his shields consecutively get blown up and he rapidly takes damage
of course i do
stop deflecting
post your boards
with timestamps
you made some pretty wild claims
and i want to see the results of those millions of damage games
I literally never run DS on vet
that lasted 20-40 minutes
lmao
I played it ages ago, and despised how ungodly strong it was
thus
I dont play it
Naw, just one guy and his extremely bad takes. And all he uses is the meta cookie cutter build.
PS is stronger anyway tbh
And everyone else complains about how weak Vet is and how it cant possibly compete with other classes
we got one guy'd
bro's just ignoring me now 😭
ah, just another day vet chat gets one guy'd 
I'm not even talking about bugs
see i don't mind your arbi takes
I cant blame anyone when its boiling down to One build (and a half)
but your vet takes are so horribly off the mark
All the finesse damage, very funni to watch so many thing crumple to 1 hed poke. I only take it on that dumb recon build because housefire of a build.
The bleed on dog
I will forever spread the gospel of helbore
Helbore is in a very good spot right now
until you get matched up with an Arby stack
then you feel useless
lmao
I gotta try this lol
If Bleed damage from dog was tracked on scoreboard itd be hotfixed immediately
nah I'm still doing good with the helbore in an arby stack
everything fuckin flying all over the place while you try to land headshots
My sanity rapidly dwindles when im trying with Vigils
you know, funny thing. Earlier today I was doing that one mission with the barrels and underground hallways. Me and the Arby were sitting at the elevator waiting for our team and sniping dangerous little guys from afar. Me with my Helborne giga optimized to do this one thing and him with his fuck-you-shotgun one tapping enemies across the map. 😌
it was Auric Maelstrom so, I guess it doesn't matter since not havoc
Sorry I’ll fabricate a scoreboard rq
Though I thought everyone knew since I mentioned his bad takes on Zealot before. He was saying both knoife bad and knoife op and that both zealot 'nades have absolutely no use... when they do, just pathing them is ungodly bad.
@hollow ibex
Tknives vs the other options?
The non-tknife options are garbage for zealot
Tknives are goated
And how good you are with zealot is tied directly to how good you are at landing headshots with tknives
Sure we believe you...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Wow! Some good Vet numbers!
Idk why everyone says Vet is so weak, that proves them all wrong
Idk, of the opinion ppl that think the non-tknive Zealot blitzes are worth taking spend too much time in mortis trials
Roll to bluff the server at a disadvantage.
What was that Arby's name?
wot
Ive been saying vet is broken
me and my million reddit accounts
nobody listened...
there's a "recently played with" in the social tab
Im asking cause it probably was me lmao, I played with a vet who used vellore and had a normal vet skin
Cool dude.
ohhh
Hellbore
Xanthia was the name
Uh
Dang, shi uh?
I can check?
Was it on that mission that has the ceiling open up?
no I mean the arby was Xanthia
Dey said I get no bitches
Ima freak off a leash
MEOW
Psyker gets the bitches (in his dream of course)
if you think about it hard enough, you'll find out you already had bitches
Should've said "I got you don't I?"
the Arbites "I didnt needed to think a lot for it to be fact"
I can confirm the slug shotgun is not fun
Rip you
You don't need any when we have each other 
Anyone able to change the mark for chainsword? Mine is stuck with Mk XIIIg when I want to use Mk IV
@faint beacon i really want Arby’s 15% toughness on stam use on vet
It’d be so nice
Considering his stam nodes and such
It’d be cool methinks
We will fucking suffer
And like it
Yo WaW was fucking awesome
I showed gale the gif and he loves it lol
You know I’d be down to play some waw
Same, haven't played in forever
Last time I played was around the time BO1 released I think
Yes they do
Especially smite 
they need to give psyker the dueling sword
oh wait
heh heh.

nahhhh actually tho. After the chinese nerfs, I don't even know if dueling sword can still be the punchline
Smite doesn't need buffs
Smite is fine

I know
nah
buff this, buff that. nahhh what we really need is a commissary buff
that thing hasn't been touched since the beta
Finally, the first person on this server speaking the Emperor's Holy language, Facts 
What's this Commissary buff you speak? I want to learn the words of the Emperor too
Honestly if smite would be harder to use repeatedly, it would be fine imo, it should be a stagger tool instead of a "Stop" button
fix it only for vet and no one else 👇 😠
What’s been the feeling towards the updated shotguns? I still haven’t touched them and still haven’t come across anyone in game who’s using them in Auric.
there are weapon skins that fatshark made for the new weapons (e.g., greatsword, pickaxe, etc.) that they never bothered putting in the commisary. Likewise, the arbites has no commisary items, neither armor nor weapon skins, unlike evey other class. Fatshark has neglected the commisary for too long
The deaf ogryn will remember that, but also understand it because he Is op
Ah, yeah that's true, new class is cool but outside of the coat doesn't have much variety
And what would be the difference
Agri is very good now. Rest eh
I dead enemy can't act
TBH I wish they’d just make the alt fire for the flame shotgun the default
If you can smite every 3 seconds nothing changes, if you can do it every 10 then it's something, if you have to make a preemptive charge for a long duration then it needs to be a preventive maneuver instead of a free out of jail button
I already do
Basically just add a cool down to smite
Nothing really changes
Nothing ever happens
🗣️
Give it the relic blade overheat to piss everyone who wants that mechanic for the power sword
That too
Tbh I like empower
Me too, to the point I want them to change the other mk that is underperforming to have it so we can choose between 3 strong swings or a longer duration and more swings but less powerful
talking about Peril I had to play Psyker today because my friend is playing Vet too and we keep overwriting VoC. I blew myself up like 3x in two matches 😔
Came back from my Vet character arc and I blew me a few times, one when I almost clutched a game
Also wish if they do release another mk for the ps make the heavies 2 thrust attacks
peril is a rude mechanic, my smooth veteran brain cannot parse it
Need to fry my brain again to not overcook it
Just play melee psyker
You mean there is another way? (I always melee even with staff builds)
They should probably remove the mandatory 3 swings blessing from the powersword and make it a base feature
It wouldn’t be that much stronger but man would casual players have a lot more fun
I like going wooosh with the fire staff
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/terrible-melee-psyker-build
good melees are the ds5, tac axe 2/7, illis and Obscurus force sword, both marks of the force greatswords
How are you exploding with the purg staff bruh
Das like the easiest staff to manage
set peril fx to 0 and act like its not there
The knifes are also good when you want to become the speed
Oh and the other issues with melee weapons is uncanny strike being extremely meta
Yeah they’re fun
because I'm shit that's why
lmao
Knives are just too much effort.
there is no excuse, I just forget it exists
We shall kill uncanny strike
Not really, if zealot is using stalwart or ij he drops uncanny for riposte
Uncanny strike should be like a more baked in feature for humans or something
Human rejects
I have to go infernus because it is the most brainless way to be helpful as Psyker 😌 👍






