veteran-class

[neon current]

hi

[shell spire]

Oh whaaaaaat

[neon current]

but both bolt weapons desperately need better skins agreed

[shell spire]

Absolutely gorgeys peace

[neon current]

most is just a glorified recolor

but this thing is just sick

[shell spire]

Yeah the red bolt pistol skin was so meh I couldnt even get it

Is that a real skin?

Not a mod?

[neon current]

yea

[shell spire]

Holy shiiit

[neon current]

I don't use that mod

I respect FS more than that

death's head apparently

[shell spire]

Beaaautiful

[neon current]

honestly, I like the skull part the least, but even the gun model is different

[shell spire]

Yeah same but still a nice piece

The base model is dope af

[neon current]

yea, wish I coudl get rid of the white skull

[shell spire]

Same but it is what it is

[neon current]

it's kinda dope still, but I'd prefer not to have it

[shell spire]

I wish the ork skins were different color

[tall torrent]

Cadian revolver skin better imo

[shell spire]

Show

[hasty grove]

Yes please show

I love anything Cadian or Cadian adjacent

Nice Brisket pfp btw

[hasty grove]

Ive never used the revolver before but I would if I had that skin

[tropic notch]

Love that skin

[hasty grove]

I need a Cadia themed gun and melee weapon to finish the look of Cadian fangirl

Do you think we’ll ever get classic Cadian Shock Troop armor?

Not like the Killshot’s Day Uniform or whatever its called

I want the CLASSIC armor

[neon current]

That a mod that gives you access to all possible skins?

or rather, preview

[tall torrent]

ya

[hasty grove]

It sucks that the game that gets my favorite faction the best… I cant even play as them in

[tall torrent]

sorta already in the game?

[neon current]

which one is it

[hasty grove]

Yeah, like the free cosmetics are close but far from perfect

[hasty grove]

Schpace Marine 2

[neon current]

no, the preview mod lol

that was for @tall torrent

[tall torrent]

weapon_cosmetics_view_improved

[hasty grove]

Thats kasrkin armor, I actually have the camo recolor

[neon current]

cheers

[sharp cave]

you shouldnt

they do NOT respect you

[tall torrent]

full kasrkin carapace

[hasty grove]

I want the classic bulky green plates with the khaki undercoat & fatigues

[hasty grove]

It’s beautiful…

[sharp cave]

too bad we dont have hotshot lasguns

[tall torrent]

there's also a plasma gun skin that goes with the same camo pattern

[hasty grove]

Like I said I think Space Marine 2 represents the Cadians the best in any videogame I’ve played… it irks me that I cant play as them tho

[tall torrent]

kasrkin helmet not in the game tho

[hasty grove]

Their designs, animations, cutscenes, and voicelines are spot on

[tall torrent]

so the best rn is scion helmet

[hasty grove]

The big box helmet is close enough for me

[tropic notch]

@tall torrent can you show me the crushers skins?

[hasty grove]

Its kinda like a kasrkin helmet with the faceplate removed

Which sucks but I’ll take what I can get

I like grunts (which is made obvious by my love for the Cadians I’d imagine) and I like to cover my reject’s faces since theyre supposed to be one of a million

Esp my guardswoman

[sharp cave]

kasrkin after the budget cuts

[hasty grove]

I agree its far from perfect

But like I said I take what I can get

[sharp cave]

honestly it still looks good

[hasty grove]

Agreed

[tall torrent]

one sec

[hasty grove]

I really like it but it’s not perfect

[hasty grove]

If they’d take the models from the one Tithes episode or SM2 and make them work as darktide cosmetics I’d shell out alotta money for it

[neon current]

the hillariously oversized ones are the best

[tall torrent]

the black one and the ice one have clipping issues

[neon current]

well duh, those heads are gigantic

it looks hillarious ingame

[hasty grove]

I notice alot of hate for me beloved Cadians tho, why is that?

[tall torrent]

no, this part

[neon current]

oh okay

[hasty grove]

I dont think thats egregious

[tall torrent]

cutthroat personality whines a lot (esp male cutthroat)
cadians are the most represented guard regiment so they get hate for being popular

[tall torrent]

still should be fixed

which they never did

[hasty grove]

My main character is a fem cutthroat and I wouldnt say they whine, just talk alot of shit

They are whiny sometimes

But the voice acting is phenomenal

“GIVE ‘EM THE OL KASRKIN DOUBLE TAP!”

[tall torrent]

male cutthroat might be the most popular veteran personality in the game

[hasty grove]

People complain alot about Cadians not shutting up about their home planet but tbf if the entire planet you lived on was exploded Alderan style you’d be pretty pissed too

Esp after fighting a siege to defend it and it being a bulwark planet for centuries

[tall torrent]

male cutthroat with scion helmet's voice modulator is arguably the best veteran voice

[hasty grove]

I really like fem cutthroat

I wish veteran had better voice modulators

Pysker and Zealot’s are all phenomenal

Veteran’s just kinda makes them sound a bit crunchy imo

[tall torrent]

good ones are all paid

same for all classes

[hasty grove]

Exactly

But even the paid Veteran’s kinda suck

[tall torrent]

well

there's only been 2 good options (scion helmet, enforcer helmet)

[unreal nova]

If they ever rerelease it, right?

[hasty grove]

I bought the enforcer set thinking it’d have an awesome voice modulator and its the same as the one free helmet (which sucks to begin with)

[tall torrent]

enforcer helmet was available just 2 weeks ago

[tall torrent]

nah it's not the same

there're like 6? diff types of voice mod

[hasty grove]

Were talking about the yellow and black armor

[unreal nova]

No, Scions.

[hasty grove]

The helmet kinda looks like a space marine helmet, right?

[unreal nova]

I was typing that when you said Scions.

[tall torrent]

yea, that's not using the same voice mod as veteran's free unlocks

[hasty grove]

It sounded very similar, basically indistinguishable to me

[tall torrent]

similar yes but not the same

[hasty grove]

Meanwhile Pysker of all classes having the best one

I have the navigator set and that helmet’s voice modulator is phenomenal

[tall torrent]

that's the same voice mod as scion helmet

[neon current]

I didn't make myself this pretty just to cover it up with voice changers

[hasty grove]

Does the scion helmet actually exist?

Ive never seen it in the shop or on another player

[hollow ibex]

I have it

Came out only once I think?

[tall torrent]

had a rerun once

[hasty grove]

Why does the one helmet I dont like have the best voice

[orchid hemlock]

Heretics located

[hollow ibex]

Oh gotcha

[dapper wharf]

I love using it with the Sentry Chest

[hasty grove]

That chestpiece is SO close to being perfect

https://tenor.com/view/rogue-one-verge-of-greatness-gif-13754250

[dapper wharf]

I would love a full Tempestus Scion setup

and if we could have the hotshot las

[hasty grove]

Like I said I just want this armor

[dapper wharf]

the day uniform with the conclave helm isn't a bad alternate, pretty close, just the wrong shade of paint

[hasty grove]

The biggest thing I dislike about those sets is they don’t have the khaki fatigues under them

[dapper wharf]

yeah they're a little mishmash'd under the armor

with the soft vest over the fatigues

and various wraps

[neon current]

@tall torrent which is the best lasgun nowadays?

[sudden cedar]

Recon?

[tame lodge]

If you mean Ilas

2b

[neon current]

normal

[dapper wharf]

[neon current]

I know recons are jsut better lasguns now

[tall torrent]

2b or 7 for inf las

[neon current]

cheers

jsut wanna try somethign different

used to only play vet doing weeklies with mg12

[digital oxide]

Random question all can say what they think.
What is good offmeta secondary for Vet in Havoc ?

[neon current]

secondary?

[digital oxide]

Ranged

[neon current]

double barrel

also, define meta

[digital oxide]

I just dont want to use Plasma so i am looking for some alternative

Thank you

[tall torrent]

recon lasgun lol

[digital oxide]

I got yelled if i am mentaly damaged

when i took recon

[neon current]

I'd say recon is very much meta

in many ways, recon is far better than plasma

[hollow ibex]

Whoever yelled at you is a dumbass

[digital oxide]

I have no clue it was 2 days ago. Some ogryn player with club and rumbler

[neon current]

plasma doesn't have good dmg with terrible ammo econ

plasma would be dogshit for havoc without infinte cleave

[tall torrent]

it doesn't have inf cleave

[digital oxide]

Its not like i am bored of zealot with book, its just i wanna try other classes

[neon current]

no its has 1000

[open ravine]

Man you suck with plasma then

Like really suck

Because you are just wrong

[hollow ibex]

Ironic coming from a guy who is playing literally the most braindead build in the game

[digital oxide]

i dont know i am still somewhat new

[open ravine]

Plasma has one of the highest ranged damage outputs and it's really easy to keep track of ammo as it requires at most 2 shots on elites and maybe 3 against crushers

[umbral scaffold]

I started with recon myself! A great place to lear

Learn

[hollow ibex]

Yeah recon is very good, very forgiving, and very boring

[open ravine]

Plasma has been vets best weapon since launch and I will fight you on this

[tall torrent]

not even close

again u REALLY should verify stuff before saying them

[digital oxide]

Any other recomendations ? For fun range weapon ?

[hollow ibex]

DOUBLE BARREL 🔥

[digital oxide]

welp time to do some digging then

[neon current]

no not really, not when I don't give a fuck

as far as 90% of the situations happen in havoc, it has infinite cleve

[tall torrent]

nah lol

[neon current]

it stops on carapace

it cuts right thru elite packs

I don't care what the exact number is

I care how it works

[tall torrent]

50 is very high cleave
but nowhere near infinite

[open ravine]

Plasma once upon a time had infinite cleave but it couldn't pierce bulwark shields plus I think the limb bug was around at the time so it could just nuke everything as easily as it could now

[open ravine]

Not carapace but large enemies instead cause it will cleave through mauler heads

[tall torrent]

it will not

[neon current]

the point was that cleave makes it viable, regardless the of the actual number

[hollow ibex]

It's really fun. Boomstick, one of the only guns in the game that can efficiently horde clear, natural synergies with vet, good sniper as well

And lots of style

[tall torrent]

actually they might have changed it? I'm checking rn

[digital oxide]

Now you got me interested.

[tall torrent]

it's somewhere between 55 and 60 rn

[shell spire]

What mk, blessings and perks for infantry lasgun I bought the discount skin and I'm too lazy to refund it gotta make it work

Gotta make it work for casual shit atleast

[neon current]

headhunter deadly

[tall torrent]

headhunter + ghost

[shell spire]

Eh it's nice but I'd rather go for dps

Might do that for a havoc build tho but gonna build another gun for it

[tall torrent]

Deadly accurate is quite underwhelming for this gun

Because anything u take 2 shots to kill is still gonna be 2 shots to kill

This is neither a sustained dps gun nor a breakpoint gun

[shell spire]

Idk what breakpoint means

Flak and maniacs?

Or is something else more useful

[tall torrent]

Amount of damage needed to kill important enemy in as few hits as possible

[shell spire]

Ok so deadly accurate doesnt matter if it doesnt really take more hits off from kill so might as well run ghost but what about the mk and perks

Just what you prefer?

Or does one mark clearly outshine the other 2

Or is one dogshit compared to the other 2

[tall torrent]

Which lasgun family?

[crude wind]

Kantraels

[shell spire]

Infantry

Yes kantraels

[supple laurel]

which version of braced autogun has best DPS?

[tall torrent]

Maniac
Flak
Headhunter
Ghost
Use IIb or VII

[tall torrent]

IV (while braced)
VIII

But essentially just use VIII

[shell spire]

Ty

[tropic notch]

I want the shrine guard so bad

[open ravine]

I find heavy versions is best but maybe with the brittleness perk the medium one or light can compete

[supple laurel]

if the one i think youre thinking of the location of that perk is fucking awful

not worth taking for how many talent points you generally give up

[tall torrent]

Me too

[tropic notch]

https://tenor.com/view/ori-gif-5218995604609941162

It’s ok we can cope together

[open ravine]

The right bottom branch has some of the best perks for vet and brittleness on hit is amazing for automatic weapons

It basically deletes armour values

So pure health damage

[supple laurel]

right

[faint beacon]

Issue onslaught decays

[tall torrent]

Onslaught only worth for like 3 guns

[supple laurel]

^

i know lmao

[tall torrent]

Basically anything under 800rpm not good enough for it

[neon current]

shredder gang arise!

[faint beacon]

Typically why you take RS instead if you need that ADM

[final locust]

have they added a hellgun yet

or any other automatic lasgun thats not the scout one

[tropic notch]

Narp

[faint beacon]

Nope

Vet hasn’t had anything new since last year

[final locust]

have they added any new guns at all

I just want an automatic lasgun that looks cooler than the scout one

[tall torrent]

no

[sinful thorn]

i hate that gun so far lol

[hollow ibex]

Revolver?

[sinful thorn]

yeah, but i only have accessto the poop versions so far

[hollow ibex]

Whats the poop version? The cowboy version?

No ADS?

[sinful thorn]

just a profane MK lla stub

[hollow ibex]

Ahhh low level gun

[sinful thorn]

mostly just the reload bothers me, might try a different gun

[hollow ibex]

The talent tree will give you reloads for free

[tropic notch]

You shouldn’t really have to reload with weapons specialist

[hollow ibex]

That's the idea

[sinful thorn]

true, im still working my way down the tree

[open ravine]

Vet has been neglected

[tropic notch]

That’s probably why

[hollow ibex]

Ah

Once you finish it you'll get free reloads

[tropic notch]

Yeah vet takes awhile to get rolling

[sinful thorn]

only lv 5

it did just give me an infanty lasgun tho thats anointed

[hollow ibex]

Ok just use whatever you want when you're that level

You can follow the tree

But weapons assume you're at 30

[final locust]

Crazy

Its a great game, they just seem slow at developing it

[hollow ibex]

We need to make them crunch. Like American and Asian devs

Smh

Labor laws getting in the way of my vet rework

[final locust]

fr fr

[neon current]

first time fatshark player?

[abstract sand]

i give up on the plasma roulette

should i just do 60 charge rate

or 60 thermal

[supple laurel]

you havent felt pain until this happens

[final locust]

no

[split basalt]

trying to get "Make Every Shot Count" and I've done 3 missions where I take a full shotguns reserves making sure I hit every shot and then I keep it at 0 ammo for the rest of the mission, yet I'm still not getting it

[sudden cedar]

Are you playing.. on Heresy or above?

[split basalt]

Mhm

I'd provide image of the scoreboard history but I cant send images

I interact in this server too little

[abstract sand]

dumb question but

[split basalt]

I'm doing exactly what it says but I'm not getting it

[abstract sand]

you aren't using survivalist, right?

[split basalt]

Nope

[abstract sand]

hmm

[split basalt]

using the one for damage

[sudden cedar]

Which means, you arent doing what it says. Somehow.

[abstract sand]

honestly

i used this mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/297

[steep flower]

QUITE SUBSTANTIAL

[abstract sand]

just for the penance

lmao

[split basalt]

Ouooo that will help

[sudden cedar]

You may consider using a revolver instead of a shotgun

[abstract sand]

Also

I did it with Stub Revolver

[split basalt]

I tried that for one of them

[sudden cedar]

A shotgun might count pellets instead of bullets

and so every pellet has to hit and not just one bullet

[abstract sand]

Stub Revolver made it extremely easy for me

[hollow ibex]

Nah DB is the easiest

[steep flower]

[hollow ibex]

As long as any pellet hits it counts

[sudden cedar]

I disagree

But, you do you.

[hollow ibex]

It's ok but you're wrong

[supple laurel]

what perk affects what bosses again?

[hollow ibex]

It's fucking hard to miss with a double barrel

[supple laurel]

arent nurgles infested?

[hollow ibex]

And you only need to fire 30 shots

[hollow ibex]

Unyielding

[tall torrent]

nah it's not that big of a difference

[supple laurel]

oh alright thanks

[hollow ibex]

Wat

[steep flower]

Ah nothing really

[split basalt]

is this the same for chaos spawn head? They look like they have armor there so idk

[neon current]

every monster is full unyield

[steep flower]

every boss is unyielding exept captains

i wish nurgle beats was infested tbh; would make sense

[supple laurel]

yeah

[supple laurel]

wait what are captains lmao

[tall torrent]

twins
scab captain
admonition champion

[steep flower]

also cranial corruption heads would be infested too; so you have a crusher and his head would be infested and not carapace

[supple laurel]

no like.... what perk affects them

what perk affects captains

[steep flower]

Do twins have carapace head?

[tall torrent]

yea

[hollow ibex]

Flak

[tall torrent]

scab captain and admonition champion are flak
twins are carapace head

[steep flower]

yeah so different than any other captain

[hollow ibex]

Captains get that temu armor

[tall torrent]

I actually saw a vid of someone testing an armor plate from temu

it was surprisingly good at denying penetration for its price

[tropic notch]

@tall torrent is there any difference from normal twins to havoc twins?

[tall torrent]

wdym normal vs havoc

[sudden cedar]

There are no normal twins outside of the special mission

[nimble wadi]

Not bad for maelstrom if I do say so myself

[tropic notch]

Like is there any difference between the ones you find in havoc vs in there own mission

Like are they still Cara in havoc?

[nimble wadi]

Now all I need are people to do havocs with

Like Fyre

[tall torrent]

yes

[tropic notch]

I’ll bring my hsword zealot

[tall torrent]

armor type is the same

the difference is mainly their shield link being orthus exclusive

[tropic notch]

That’s good

All I was worried about

[tropic notch]

What are you at

[nimble wadi]

Only 19

I only just started

[faint wedge]

If you wear Temu armor you deserve whatever happens to you lol

[tropic notch]

May bring my vet did my first havoc with him like 3 days ago

@tall torrent vets born leader is sooooooo good

And with a oggy running stay close

It’s awesome

[tropic notch]

I get off at 7 cst and I’m gonna eat with my dad I’ll ping you when I’m on

Path should join

[nimble wadi]

Ok I’m going to make dinner right now anyway 😊

[tall torrent]

yea it feels that way when u are not the veteran running born leader

[tropic notch]

I run it

[nimble wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-gif-24644397

[abstract sand]

why

[frank basin]

Are you gamble plasma gun?

[pseudo fiber]

Remember don't bin any 68 thermal 72 charge rate

[abstract sand]

yes

[abstract sand]

66 isn't enough right

[pseudo fiber]

nope

[abstract sand]

should i bin this one too

[pseudo fiber]

yes

[abstract sand]

pain.

[frank basin]

The cycle repeat (Boomer gamble)

https://tenor.com/view/boomer-gambling-boomer-gamble-gambling-boomer-slots-boomers-gif-5999621320771440284

Seeking perfection weapon is very slaneesh thing

[undone vector]

how is rat build in high havocs?

[frank basin]

What? Rat?

[undone vector]

infiltrade/revive speed/smoke grenade spam etc

[frank basin]

Oh that

Elusive build

[undone vector]

rat

[frank basin]

I say if there bunch of guns shooter is nice for that

But shooter got nerfed

[undone vector]

when theres a patrol of armored big boys or bosses i feel useless as hell

but ye on shooters and objectives it feels good

[frank basin]

Masssive spawn shooter/gunner in a room area you could take out and cover team with smoke

Generally won’t be good as frontline combatants

[undone vector]

ye i just run around like an idiot and take out shooters while avoiding hordes

and tunneling some annoying special mobs

[crude star]

is the killzone description in hammer of the emperor wrong? does it make a difference in whether you take it or not

[strange crow]

They reworked killzone iirc so yes HotE description is outdated

[frank basin]

Is also get hit on blocked melee will reset your benefit

[hollow ibex]

Catch a breath was also reworked. Same patch as killzone and same deactivation conditions

[wild hearth]

ive tried everything. Executioner's Stance (and most of that side of the talent tree) is negatively impactful to a team in comparison to vet's other blitz abilities

every single possible loadout, every perk, every blessing

the most consistent is infantry auto gun with a crap ton of carapce/flak damage and onslaught

but going executioners basically means your team needs to clear the horde for you, and knowing how often team's coordinate in this game ... yikes.

but voice of command go brrr i guess lol.

[frail citrus]

i dont have beef with ppl who use anything other than VoC

but whenver they are on my team i am thinking "man itd be nice if i had gold toughness"

[hollow ibex]

You can and should still take care of your own horde clear with ES

It just limits your melee options

[frail citrus]

definitely odd choics, but i cant be flaming other ppls choices

[hollow ibex]

But I would definitely not leave horde clear to randos

ES can be very good in some setups

But it's not the easiest to play

[crude star]

stealth ability wasn't as cool as I had hoped, and in the end I didn't really like any veteran abilities when it comes to actually using them...

[hollow ibex]

I like stealth mostly for the talents around it

[hallow drift]

IMO Randos are only obligated to save you when downed/disabled, otherwise it’s kind of expected that everyone should be able to handle themselves against poxwalkers

At least once max level. It can be more difficult when you’re level 12 with a bunch of greys/greens

[crisp wraith]

You’d hope so, but the last group of damnation players I was with had only one person (excluding me) who’d actually try to revive people

The main character energy is strong with some people out there

[hallow drift]

I feel like matchmaking gets worse as time goes on since folks who mostly stay in malice/heresy start to get confident enough to dip their toes into T5 after building bad habits for 200 hours

Or worse they dive into aurics or hi hav

People who don’t know how to push slide a burster in havoc 30 are terrifying

[crisp wraith]

Mhm, you know, I should probably do some auric and havoc missions myself, but at the same time, I have too much fun goofing off in damnation and below

[hallow drift]

The occasional human mistake is fine but when I gotta pick a homie up 4 times, I can’t help but shake my head lol

4 times from the same mistakes, not even just getting hit from behind while overwhelmed or anything reasonable

It was a weird realization when I came to the understanding that some people don’t gradually improve over time, they just literally plateau

I thought if anyone played a game for several years, they’d just become nasty eventually

[crisp wraith]

Yeah, and that’s part of the problem with upwards scaling difficulty in some games, some people just don’t get to be skilled enough to experience half the game

[tall torrent]

update to ranged weapon section
minimalist breakpoints

[hallow drift]

Some games “high difficulty” is just kind of artificial, so I don’t mind not getting there. Something like high level Division 2 where enemies turn into bullet sponges just doesn’t strike my fancy like running through the story content with friends

Something like Dark Souls NG+7 mostly comes down to sprinting past everything on the way to the boss because the enemies just get ludicrously tanky

But up to like NG+3 is usually fun if you really do enjoy the game, because it does just level the playing field once you’re pretty juiced with fully leveled gear

I only played VT1 and never touched VT2, so I’m sad I can’t really contribute to discussions on how DT’s balance sits comparatively

[crisp wraith]

Difficulty’s always a hard thing to balance, especially when stuff like number of/types of enemies are randomised

Like a vet could possibly play through an entire damnation difficulty mission on their own no problem, but then they could also play heresy difficulty and get swarmed by ten crushers immediately

[digital oxide]

@hollow ibex THANK YOU SO MUCH

For double barrel shotgun tip

[hollow ibex]

Lol idr what I told you but glad it's helpful

[tropic notch]

@tall torrent how do bosses stagger?

Not from something like book or Voc but like the crusher or bully club

[grand nymph]

Any tips for getting Make every Shot Count?

[tall torrent]

ogryn shovel can do it but only under specific circumstances

otherwise, basically no boss stagger from weapons

[tall torrent]

double barrelled shotgun

[grand nymph]

I've heard its also as easy with a Plasma gun is that right? Or do I need to start levelling a shotgun?

[loud belfry]

you can do a plasma gun, especially a Grey one

slightly harder I think but at least you can waste ammo easily enough

[tall torrent]

easiest is DB shotgun

u don't have to level it

just use up all its ammo and play melee

[grand nymph]

Won't I accrue ammo from scavenger?

[tall torrent]

don't take left aura

[crisp wraith]

I don’t know if it’s the best option, but I got it with the snub revolver (ADS version not spamming). I could be wrong, but since the bullets pierce, hitting two or more enemies with one shot technically raises your accuracy, as it does with a shotgun. Unless I’m wrong, other games have logic like that, not sure about darktide

[hollow ibex]

revolver's not a bad pick with it, but DB is the easiest

impossible to miss, and you can have less than 30 shots

[crisp wraith]

I think I did it before the DB came out, probably why I’m focused on the revolver

[grand nymph]

nah this shit too hard lmao

[tall torrent]

do u need help

[grand nymph]

Maybe in a bit

[severe lark]

Im down too if theres more space

[muted elk]

use a revolver on the train mission waste all ur ammo on the horde and only take easy shots then melee the rest of the way

[grand nymph]

Yea im cooked im just ass I need helpp lol

[muted elk]

its really really easy if you do it like that i got it first try

[grand nymph]

DB shotgun or revolver?

[hollow ibex]

DB shotgun, use the double shot

you just need to land ONE pellet

and with double shot you'll be out of ammo very fast

[tall torrent]

send friend code

[grand nymph]

2289164812

Is this Vets hardest penance? Feels so hard lmao

[tall torrent]

no

hardest is technically On Overwatch

but it can be cheesed

[tall torrent]

u wanna vc?

[grand nymph]

Got no mic sorry

[tall torrent]

it's fine

[grand nymph]

Then sure I can hop in and listen

[grand nymph]

Did you wanna hop in?

[severe lark]

Im gonna help someone with the twins

Dw

[digital oxide]

You tolled me to try out double barrel on Vet

[grand nymph]

no worries

[digital oxide]

Just got 590 k dmg in 1 mission

[hollow ibex]

oof nice

[digital oxide]

with just the db. So much fun holy

hmm i could even crank up the dmg more... with exe stance

[muted elk]

i did it with the revolver it doesn't matter though just use all on ur ammo on the horde and stop picking up ammo when you've spent it

[hollow ibex]

lol thought about that before, it's prob not a great combo tbh

[digital oxide]

Yea the Voice is much better

[severe lark]

Just finished the mission, if you need some help I can help you

[tired monolith]

I probably know the reason, but could someone please explain this to me?

[tame lodge]

I was about to search for plasma blessings alt2

Lol

[tired monolith]

Ok. Perfect. Makes sense.

So basically I get best of both worlds without having to pick and choose and sacrifice one.

[grand nymph]

Sorry just saw this, we got it

[severe lark]

Dw

[crude star]

what lasgun is overall the best? recon?

[tropic notch]

I see thank you

[tame lodge]

For brrrrr

[formal ice]

All

[tough mason]

dump stat for assault chainaxe?

[crisp wraith]

Only type of gun to get designated skill/talent for them, as far as I’m aware

[tame lodge]

Defense

[nimble wadi]

👁️ 🌊

Eye sea

[torn depot]

Man, Bolter is so much fun

I wish scavenger gave back more than 1% ammo

[void dragon]

you want scavenger, the one aura broken for veteran, to be even MORE broken?

[hollow ibex]

eh it's not broken

and it's also not as good as close and kill

[void dragon]

really? so is more that it is in the path of so many good stuff like frags and shout than it being overtuned?

[hollow ibex]

yeah pathing to frags is really good

and then ofc in havoc it's all a different story

where vet's primary job is ammo dispenser

[void dragon]

wish krags were more useful, is neat to have a bulwark-be-gone, but would wish it had better aoe for the reduced max ammount

[hollow ibex]

yeah

the event reminded me of how shit kraks are

[torn depot]

Scavenger don't feel OP

[void dragon]

been using shovel shotgun with kill team and krags and it do slap

[hollow ibex]

toss a krak at a captain

it fucking bounces off

https://tenor.com/view/kiszkiloszki-mad-angry-kek-kekw-gif-1050396665583133824

[void dragon]

oh DAMNIT I HATE THAT

whole point of them is boss and bulwark killing and they do THAT??!

at least nuke the barrier!

[hollow ibex]

thing is, pretty sure krak is supposed to stick to flak armor

[torn depot]

Don't you have to disable shields first?

To get it to stick to armor

[hollow ibex]

even if you do, it just slides off

[torn depot]

Oh

Then I was going insane

[hollow ibex]

yeah it doesn't do shit to caps

[void dragon]

ObeseFish moment

[torn depot]

They need to fix that

[void dragon]

indeed

[hollow ibex]

there's a lot of things that they need to fix about kraks

[torn depot]

My grenadier Krak head build

[void dragon]

what is the wishlist for krak buffs?

[torn depot]

stick to captains

[void dragon]

better aoe CC

[viral chasm]

more aoe or increase capacity

[void dragon]

increaced capacity would be nice, but it def needs a reason to toss it on regular enemies that dont stick

[hollow ibex]

yeah that one

increased capacity

to match frags baseline

make them impact or have extremely short fuse

increased damage, because rn the boss damage actually isn't that great lmfao

[void dragon]

and what would be their boost on the perk that improve the grenades?

[hollow ibex]

prob stay the same

or improve radius more? idk

[odd girder]

What blessings should i get for shock maul?

[tall torrent]

it shouldn't

[hollow ibex]

i'm pretty sure it does

ugh

let me test

[grand perch]

500% boss damage, magnetizes to unyielding enemies

[void dragon]

1 kark = BoN go BOOM

[hollow ibex]

ok, you're right

it does actually stick

does less than 15% damage tho

oh...and that's WITH grenade tinkerer

honestly that might be why i thought it didn't stick

because it just scratches their paint

[void dragon]

wait it does damage but gets cut mid way?... THAT'S WORSE!!!

[tall torrent]

yea it's not worth wasting them on captains

[void dragon]

it should not be waste using it on them, its supposed to be used on them

MorbidlyobeseShrimpwhy?

[tall torrent]

it's not supposed to be used on them either

captains are different from monsters

[hollow ibex]

for gameplay purposes, it should be tbh

[void dragon]

but it stick to flak and caparace aside from unyelling, as a single target nuke

what better target than a FRIGGING BOSS?!

kraks really are the absolute WORSE nade in the game

[hollow ibex]

honestly i think they'd provide a lot of value if they could stick and fuck up void shields

[tall torrent]

if krak could 1 shot void shields it'd be huge

actually yea let's make that a thing

[hollow ibex]

so huge i'm not sure if kraks should be allowed to do that

not that i'd complain lol

[void dragon]

I agree, bully obesefish into making this change

[civic nymph]

Anyone know when they supposed to bring back the krieg cosmetics?

[void dragon]

only obesefish and their rotations know

[civic nymph]

Dam

[hollow ibex]

weren't they just on rotation?

prob won't come back until end of year or something

[civic nymph]

Dam where they I must have missed them 😭😭

When does the shop reset?

[hollow ibex]

every other thursday, it just reset last thursday iirc

[hollow ibex]

yeh a bunch of skins came back for skulls event

blame the ass FOMO shop

[civic nymph]

Yeah dam that sucks I hate item shops like this just let us buy what we want when we want it would make them so much more money

[hollow ibex]

yeah

[void dragon]

Idk why ObeseFish is allergic to getting money

[tall torrent]

They’re not

[uncut pebble]

It used to be way, way stronger, and didn't have a cooldown, iirc.

[hollow ibex]

yeah you could just replenish all yoru ammo on a dog wave

there might've been an internal cooldown

but if so, it was very brief

[unreal forge]

wish it was still a thing now, with havoc's -60% ammo penalty

[copper ingot]

and now is more or less?

[loud belfry]

Veterans suck hehe

[midnight wyvern]

yeah scav was kinda nuts before

decent amount of weapons had functionally infinite ammo

[long dove]

is it worth using marksman with a helbore?

or is it really only good on automatics?

[hollow ibex]

you can but i'd rather just use FT tbh

[long dove]

Oh I mean the perk Marksman not Marksman's Focus

[hollow ibex]

oh lol

yeah that can be good if you can afford it

[grand perch]

Helbore makes great use of MMF though

[tame lodge]

Me when surgical

[grand nymph]

Anyone got any tips for Long Bomb?

[abstract sand]

throw a frag waaaaay higher than you're used to

let it explode mid-air

[grand nymph]

Unironically

[abstract sand]

i got it by pure accident

lol

[grand nymph]

FFirst try

[abstract sand]

oh you got it

awesome sauce

[grand nymph]

It seemed a lot harder than i thought

[long dove]

So i love the helbore, what's a good gun to try that's somewhat similar in feel?

[grand perch]

It's fairly unique? Hard to tell what you like about it, but I'm going to suggest vigilant autoguns for precision marksmanship

[long dove]

I like the precision but also teh hard hitting shot

[dry cloak]

bolter or boltpistol

[long dove]

The whole BLAM BLAM thing is fun

[grand perch]

Yeah try bolter

Recommended with exec stance

[long dove]

So what's the job of the Bolters?

[grand perch]

It's job is to BLAM

Just don't waste ammo on trash

[midnight wyvern]

kill enemy

[long dove]

Like I know what to aim for with Helbore. What do I aim for with Bolter? Big meaty people?

[dry cloak]

same stuff like helbore

with added ability to delete bosses and crusher packs

[long dove]

Hmm I chunk bosses already but bolter looks fun. Can I just swap out my helbore for bolter and it work with what I have,m

[dry cloak]

it will work with the same biuld

just loose shocktrooper for something else

[sudden cedar]

Bolt Gun also works great in removing anything in front of you, if that is required. Not to say you should use it to clear a horde, but you can do so if need be.

[long dove]

Hmm what pairs well with Bolter? Melee wise?

[dry cloak]

anything that cleans horde well

[sudden cedar]

Devil Claw, Heavy Sword, Power Sword.

[dry cloak]

shockmaul

[sudden cedar]

The Power Sword is dangerous tho because of low mobility.

[balmy flume]

Also, frag nades

[dry cloak]

combat axe

[balmy flume]

If you have Boltgun, run frag nades

Since you can delete heavy targets Kraks lose out somewhat

[grand perch]

Kraks lose out in general

[long dove]

Great for one shotting idols

[long dove]

Isn't mobility a dump stat?

[sudden cedar]

Not for the power sword, that at least seems to be the consensus

Cleave Target

Because you won't actually get anything between 60% or 80%, that is what is being said.

[long dove]

No idea really what that means

[sudden cedar]

Cleave Target is the amount of Targets you can hit with your weapon.

An increase in that would mean you can hit more targets.

There is however no difference if you have 60% Cleave Target or 80% Cleave Target

So you may as well have it at 60% and increase your mobility, even if just slightly.

It will never be good on the Power Sword, but the alternative is getting nothing at all.

[long dove]

Fair

Shock maul feels like it can be dirty up close

Just need to learn that horde combo

[sudden cedar]

Just be aware that Veteran suffers from problems with Stamina

[dry cloak]

munitorum one/mk3 its heavy light reapeat

[long dove]

Yeah the guide said H1 (PA) L4

[dry cloak]

also shovkmaul shus down single crushers with its stun

[pseudo fiber]

Well there is a difference to the unpowered swings which you don't use

[long dove]

So shock for groups and bolters for elites and higher,?

[dry cloak]

yeah

pretty much

mag dump hordes if need be

but dont do it often

140 rounds sounds like a lot but you can run dry fast

[long dove]

Yeah, I'll prolly run that one perk for free shot if I crit

Hell marksman will be amazing with it

[dry cloak]

that only works on las weapons

so you can drop it

for something else

[long dove]

Oh yeah you're right

At least marksman works

[sudden cedar]

@pseudo fiber Interesting.

@dry cloak Imagine a Las-shotgun/Bolt Gun type weapon

[grand perch]

A what now

[sudden cedar]

A las-shotgun

[dry cloak]

those exist i think

[grand perch]

Xcom had one.

I thought you meant a hybrid las/bolt shotgun

[sudden cedar]

No.

[long dove]

Oh neat I can link stuff now. I can show my build and get made fun of for it. Neat.

[sudden cedar]

Either of the two, or a las-weapon that acts similar to the Bolt Gun

[grand perch]

Inb4 you picked longshot

[dry cloak]

we have one its called helbore

[sudden cedar]

Does it have rapid fire?

[dry cloak]

no

las weapon are high firerate low damage- low firerate high damage

that are man portable

[long dove]

Give me that las rifle with a backpack so I can blast a sniper into orbit

[dry cloak]

if youre thinking the weapon that scab gunners use its a lmg

[long dove]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9f1edce6-26cf-466f-b816-c352fa935032

My current Veteran build

[long dove]

Let me find it

Ah I was mistaken with the backpack. I'm thinking power-packs for the Long Las

[steep flower]

Could be way better

[steep flower]

Imagine vet getting scab gunners lmg and had the shocktrooper with it… omg i’m salivating

[grand perch]

I spot 2 major sins

[steep flower]

No iron will

[grand perch]

No iron will and no out for blood, instead the pointless tactical reload on a gun with near infinite mag size

[long dove]

I mean I'm learning so

[steep flower]

I can understand tac reload; its a comfort pick

[grand perch]

Abso fucking lutely not on helbore

[steep flower]

But no iron will is like asking fir death

[long dove]

Considering most of the time I hear how awful the reload was

[dry cloak]

swap speed

[long dove]

That as well

[unreal nova]

If only I had 5 more points.

[steep flower]

Can be bad especially for a chronic reloader like myself so i understand picking it

[unreal nova]

Reloads after 1 shot habit.

[grand perch]

Reload isnt bad on helbore

And skipping the awesome out for blood for tac reload is objectively the worst choice

[unreal nova]

Sure, Bistol reload isn't THAT bad, but still.

[steep flower]

Bistol is alright reload

[unreal nova]

Would be so nice on recon reload as well.

[long dove]

Alright well I did a few swaps and got both those perks

[steep flower]

No karien; bad Karien; go back to bed cause you haven’t slept enough it seems

[stuck tree]

https://tenor.com/view/pissed-off-cat-rage-angry-gun-gif-16864368

[long dove]

So other than those two perks, what else could be better?

[steep flower]

Why are you not using shooter highlight for exec stance?

[grand perch]

Exec stance should use either of the other 2 sub nodes imo. You make your own job harder when teammates kill your marks

[steep flower]

Its a good node tho for info, especially in dark modifiers

[unreal nova]

Rejected. Is 6PM and I woke an hour ago.

[grand perch]

Yes I use it on a build specifically made for darkness fog etc

[stuck tree]

6pm still early..

[grand perch]

Not on a generalist exec build

[steep flower]

Quite true

[unreal nova]

Look, let me dream of 5 extra points.

[long dove]

What do you mean? All human range units?

[steep flower]

Yes that one

[surreal verge]

My main vet build has been minmaxed for oneshot headshotting Everything with mk3 helbore
I know that marksman's focus counterintuitively does not synergize well with slow rpm weapons like helbore but all the good talents for me are in that column and I don't have enough points to move over to one of the other keystones

[long dove]

Cause I'm searching for elites or such in particular. The normal ranged people aren't an issue for me and I wanna find the elites and specials faster

[steep flower]

Shooters > Reapers > Gunners in order from most to least threatening (they are all still quite dangerous)

[long dove]

By shooters you mean yhe guards or such?

[steep flower]

When you gonna play highier difficulties you’ll understand

[steep flower]

Shooters = common enemy that shoots you

[long dove]

Is it cause there's just a lot of them?

[sudden cedar]

When that one shooter in the darkness that you missed pulls out his gun and strips all your toughness in one volley...you'll understand

[grand perch]

The obnoxious thing is keeping up the stacks with low rpm weapons but they profit from the extra damage just the same

[long dove]

Okay I'll look and see what I cannswap

[surreal verge]

Oh sick

[long dove]

How's the gear and perks/blessings?

Alright I did a swap to add that perk

[grand perch]

Btw you didn't pick long shot which I can only commend you for

[long dove]

I won't lie, I had that at first but after some research I swapped from it

[grand perch]

It traps a lot of people with its description that sounds so much better than it actually is

[severe jolt]

That actually says almost nothing at all about the geometry of the blades, just that the very edges are only a single molecule thick. To give a real life example, there's the macahuitl, which was a spiked club/sword type of weapon used by Aztecs and other Mesoamericans. While not exactly an elaborate design, the blades were made of a type of volcanic glass called obsidian which, when made by a skilled weaponsmith, could reach a similar level of sharpness, only a few molecules thick. Far sharper than even the finest steel blades, and in fact obsidian is still used today to make surgical scalpels because of that.

[normal river]

extremeley brittle do

[sage cairn]

hiya all is the Vet guide at the pins, updated?

[tame lodge]

95%

[grand perch]

rumour has it the guide's steam version will be available earlier if you poke @tall torrent with a stick every day

[sage cairn]

✍️ gotcha

mhhhm is MK1 shovel better than MK7?

I have the beeg bolter for mainly dealing with chonky bois. I just need a melee weapon to horde clear

[sonic kayak]

Do you want to poke enemies in the face or use a budget pickaxe? That's the question

[sage cairn]

Caxe Rashad has been fine, but I want something unique to the class

[sage cairn]

hmmm the fold special sounds funny

[unreal nova]

Personally, you go either mk 1 or mk 3.

1 is funny poke rager bulli and horde cc.

[tall torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/brushing-shoulder-black-filter-suit-gif-26850006

[unreal nova]

3 is crack crushers open faster. (One hit if you build for it.)

[sage cairn]

hmmm I have the beeg bolter for crushers

Ill try Mk1 and see where it goes from there

booli ragers sounds fun

[tall torrent]

simplified breakpoint & weapon build subsections

[unreal nova]

7 is hybird, but gets bleah. You lose the funni bulli hordes and ragers and your fold takes 2-3x longer to pullout.

[sonic kayak]

If you enjoy the poke then the PSword 6 push attack is the final boss Veteran poke of all pokes

[unreal nova]

Special at the heads.

[sage cairn]

is it like a Deimos poke from Psykers?

[sonic kayak]

I'm also in the same boat, I try to use weapons that retain the class' identity

[unreal nova]

You'll see.

[unreal nova]

More like dueling sword but actually has AoE, lul.

[sage cairn]

yeaaah so far I have FGS Psyker, Relic Blade Zealot. Wanted to do smtn for Vet -- Ogryn kinda unique on his own

[tall torrent]

no

it doesn't stagger

but it does way more dmg

[sage cairn]

ooooooo

[sonic kayak]

I use it into Havoc and my go-to FT build does not have any points in the right side at all

[tame lodge]

Me omw to invite Path to play co-op RT, increasing the delay by another 6 months (we won't make past chapter 2 due to scheduling conflicts)

[sonic kayak]

Probably Vet's best melee without specing into melee talents

[tall torrent]

it's just the best vet melee rn

[sage cairn]

OOOOO

Ill consider that

[sonic kayak]

You also get to flex on the lesser Vets because everyone brings the PSword and no one knows how to use it

[sage cairn]

LMAO

[unreal nova]

Knoife.

[tall torrent]

I fixed 5 ranged weapons to newest format
after I finish all ranged weapons, gonna do all melee weapons

then all enemies

then curio stuff

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-yes-approve-approval-i-approve-gif-6191609

[sage cairn]

what armor type does crusher have?

[orchid hemlock]

Carapace

[sage cairn]

gotcha ty

[grand perch]

and the only enemy that's only carapace, all the others have another armor type somewhere

[sage cairn]

what does PA mean

wait

[tall torrent]

push atk

[sage cairn]

ah

found it at the terminlogy section

[sonic kayak]

Public Announcement; You're publicly annoucning you will be caving heretic heads in

[sage cairn]

[unreal nova]

You mean stabbing eyes.

[hollow ibex]

hmm

i'm feeling the itch again

the itch to play revolver exec stance

[supple laurel]

Time to do overkill damage to crushers

[sonic kayak]

Coincidentally, my Branx needs to go for a walk

[hollow ibex]

i'll do anything for that one-shot

[hollow ibex]

dw, will one shot crushers before you get into melee range

[tame lodge]

No such thing as overkill

[sonic kayak]

Then I'll protect you from the silent Trapper

[hollow ibex]

dw, my spidey sense got me

[sonic kayak]

Except for the random hobo that spawned behind you and now you are already dead

[unreal nova]

Don't make the big guy feel unwanted.

[hollow ibex]

mb mb, sorry big man

[crude star]

i have heard of these, but i didn’t realize they were that thin. But even the “edge” on those chainswords seem thick as hell, more of a wedge than an edge

[sonic kayak]

It's probably their way of saying "very sharp"

big word mean very many smarterer

[frank basin]

consider lacking mobility dodge distance you will suffer backshot and front shot same time.

at any direction, your dodge distance gonna be small on PS

[sage cairn]

okay I tried MK 1 shovel

felt meh

[hollow ibex]

that's shovel in general

[sage cairn]

I tried MK6 PSword felt better

[frank basin]

i tried PS on plasma, does really not great mobilize

[hollow ibex]

well yeah mk6 psword is literally the best vet melee lol

[frank basin]

my preferences switch to Taxe instead

[sage cairn]

I like Taxe on Zealot

[frank basin]

i like special attack stagger tap

it stagger mutant charging too

[sage cairn]

dang I thought people liked the other version

cuz I see that one a lot

or so I think

[frank basin]

combat axe also being good

the rashad specific

Steam Guide Wip love use Rashad axe

[sage cairn]

nah its fine

I wanted something unique to the class

I was using Caxe

so for Vet it was either Psword or Shovel

[hollow ibex]

people like mk3 because it's easier to use. mk6 is objectively stronger tho

block canceling is a big deal

better moveset

better sprint eff

but mk3 is still a PS at the end of the day lol. a mid PS is still strong

[sage cairn]

i see

[frank basin]

PS feel like ds to me

the mk6

[sage cairn]

how does block canceling work?

[frank basin]

that poking

[severe jolt]

Well think of it this way, imagine these two triangles are cross-sections of two blades. They're sharpened to a vastly different angle. Yet both are 1 pixel wide at the tip.

[sonic kayak]

Hold block as you activate, literally just that lol

[sage cairn]

ohhh

[hollow ibex]

charge, then block immediately

[frank basin]

not charge and (push atk) poke?

[hollow ibex]

that's for single target combo

block cancel is just general purpose

[frank basin]

yeah reset back first swing

[crude star]

i am currently in a rabbit hole of how sharp you can make something based on the wedge, now…

[severe jolt]

I mean you can sharpen an axe to a razor edge, if you want... the width of the blade has little bearing on how sharp you can make it.

[crude star]

Hm. That feels weird, like you can make something super wide and flat but still sharp. Like sharpening the back end of a shovel instead of the sides

[rotund tartan]

@faint beacon am i cooking?

[severe jolt]

The opposite actually, not wide and flat, the edge just needs to be extremely thin, it's the angle of the edge that doesn't matter that much. Glass is the best material to demonstrate it. You can cut yourself on a glass shard that has a 90 degree angle.

[grand perch]

you have indeed been cooked

[crude star]

I mean like, the angle that the non edge part converges into an edge.

like the picture you showed, there are two angles, or “steepness” that both end in that edge, and I wonder how flat the angle can be for it to still be “effectively” sharp

[frank basin]

his word say "stay out my auric/havoc"

[severe jolt]

Ahh, of course. And as I already pointed out, with every day glass it can easily be as obtuse as 90 degrees and still sharp enough to to cut yourself on by accident. Probably even more obtuse than that, but I have no idea why anyone would test this sort of thing.

[crude star]

yeah, just turns out the steep angles and tiny edges and all that just help forces get concentrated to cut easier which makes sense.

[sage cairn]

damn the Special Block Cancel is lit

my life changed

[fringe meteor]

So forget the incoming really dumb question,but what is the Brittleness effect ?

Armor reduction on hitting enemy's ?

[crude star]

sorta yeah

like you apply it, and then some % of your damage ignores whatever the armor penalty for your weapon is or some such, there’s a better description in that big guide in the pin

[fringe meteor]

Cheers

[severe jolt]

Basically yeah but there's a lot more to it as well. The optimal thickness and angle of the blade depends entirely on the application. A good example of this is how carving axes are different from splitting axes. The former is supposed to cut through small slivers of wood cleanly and precisely, so it's thinner and lighter, while the latter is meant to split apart pieces of wood, which is why it's heavier and shaped like a wedge to facilitate that. If you tried to chop firewood with a carving axe, there's a good chance it could get stuck in the log instead of splitting it, and it would also lack the mass of a splitting axe that makes it better for the job.

[muted peak]

Hello guys I was wondering what do you look out for when you choose perks for chainaxes

More towards damage against armor or trash mobs?

[rotund tartan]

neck broken

[hollow ibex]

📌 Pins has all this information and more-- specifically the Hammer of the Emperor guide. It's a bit old, but 95% of it is still relevant since vet has barely seen any changes lol.

[muted peak]

Ty

[sonic kayak]

Cooking a disaster maybe

[narrow frost]

WE LOVE CAMERA LOCKING ATTACKSZ RAGH!!!!!

You are making me wanna use shovel too

Ambulance vet gaming when I get home?

[long dove]

I love me Mk I Shovel

[narrow frost]

We are going to do a bit of trolling in havoc

Smoke, revive shout, flip shovel

We should use duo names

Ambul for me and , ance, for you

[long dove]

Best thing about Shovel is the little twirl before the wind up for a hard swing

[tame lodge]

A bit of flair for the life or death situation

[rotund tartan]

yes

[rotund tartan]

i cant change my name 💔

[narrow frost]

Oh yeah

I forgor

[strange crow]

The dreaded ambul (ance)

[long dove]

Also going full Krieg was more enjoyable than I thought it would be originally

[strange crow]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/b/b0/AmbullMini.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190107210650

[narrow frost]

Fatshark hates fun....

[rotund tartan]

maybe arbites will have a revive ultimate so i can call my character ambul and my dog ance

[narrow frost]

(wee) and (woo) join your havoc 40 both running revive shout. What do you do

[rotund tartan]

i rejoice

[long dove]

THere better be a dance emote where it's just you and the dog doing the meme dance

[rotund tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/hooray-dance-happy-dog-doge-gif-16435880

if shout revive had either the cooldown or radius changes reversed i'd probably use it over gold toughness

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/call-an-ambulance-but-not-for-me-but-not-for-me-call-an-ambulance-gif-13987821127347517247

[narrow frost]

I'd want radius changed more then cooldown

[rotund tartan]

yeah

[long dove]

Imagine if they released a Kommisar class and the special is you get to dome a teammate and it massively buffs you and the remaining living teammates

[midnight wyvern]

bonus points for doming a Psyker

[long dove]

Comes with free Demon

[rotund tartan]

i would no longer be a zealot main

[long dove]

If they wanna get fancy they could add a Skitari class

[severe jolt]

that's kinda how it worked in VT2
you dome the elf in the head with your pistol ult
boom, no one takes any friendly fire damage for the rest of the match(as long as you don't revive the elf)

[long dove]

I nearly snorted my cinnamon roll

I'm sending that to a friend of mine

[umbral scaffold]

As much as I liked friendly fire being a real thing in VT2, there were some absolute douche bounty hunters who would run around killing People to troll/be asses.

[long dove]

Yeah that's the joys of multiplayer gaming

[severe jolt]

It was a game good mechanic but yeah, it also made griefing something of an issue. And inexperienced players who were seemingly oblivious to the fact that maybe you shouldn't fire your gun into a horde that's already being melee'd by half the team.

[umbral scaffold]

True that! Thankfully those moments are few and far between.

Most bounty hunter players would just do it at the teleport gate at the end of match for lulz. Didn’t mind that at all

I did have it happen one time though. Playing skittergate as bardin. Had a bounty hunter player who was on mic the whole match, and about a third of the way through he said something kinda rude to everyone so I told him to chill. He made it his personal mission to grief me the whole match. Lol.

But that was one time only! Most players for VT2 and darktide are decent people!

[severe jolt]

My favorite, and only positive teamkilling experience was some asshole friendly firing clearly on purpose(no enemies around) so we all teamed up on him and he quit the game after we shot him dead. I dunno what we did to make him mad, if anything, but the rest of the match had a real sense of camaraderie between the 3 of us.

[umbral scaffold]

I love those matches. Played with a zealot the other night who rage quit calling us all idiots after they died.

We went on and won the match anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️ feels good.

[severe jolt]

[guy who's dead because of his own stupidity]: "YOU GUYS SUCK AT THIS GAME!"
a classic for the ages

[sleek garden]

zealot player

[umbral scaffold]

Hell he didn’t even die from that. It was a fluke bullshit thing that happened. I think a barrel blew up and knocked me off a ledge. They came to get me, died. Then someone else rescued me but it was a horde so we couldn’t pick them back up in time

It was just a honest typical dark tide match. Shit happens

[narrow frost]

@rotund tartan back now

[rotund tartan]

Gimme like 45 mins and I'll be on

[crude star]

if i'm using recon, i basically have to deal with armor with my melee?

[tall torrent]

well, if u use a melee that kills armor yes

if not, u gotta waste points to get to onslaught

[crude star]

oh

i got onslaught anyway but i wasn't sure that would necessarily be enough

[tall torrent]

generally speaking, onslaught not really worth it if u have a melee that deals with armor

carapace is designed to be dealt with in melee anyway

[crude star]

Hmm

[grand perch]

dunno whatchu doing but i have a bit of time on me hands

[narrow frost]

revive shout vet in havoc

ambulance

wee woo

wee woo

[grand perch]

oh lawd

[narrow frost]

doing Chaxe only Maelstrom rn

[hollow ibex]

That sounds painful

[sharp epoch]

psyker like

[tall torrent]

Wat

[sharp epoch]

they dont need melee at all tbh

[austere mica]

But melee psyker is fun

[tall torrent]

Obscurus kills crushers way faster than voidstrike does

[austere mica]

And pure stave gameplay is sleepy

[austere mica]

Hydrogen bomb versus coughing baby comparison here

[sharp epoch]

voidstrike used to one tap crushers idk how obscurus does it faster

[narrow frost]

Gaming

[tall torrent]

Crit dependent
Long charge time

[austere mica]

Obscurus has the best armor killtimes in the game

It’s obscene