veteran-class

[agile forge]

You activate it and then it amplifies your next swing

Or next 2-3 with power cycler

Then you activate it again

[muted peak]

[void dragon]

yeah, the loop of it activating after 3 slashes is troublesome, but the weapon pays

[agile forge]

It hits like a pool noodle unpowered lol

[void dragon]

the stats are like [XX/YY]%, you want the stats for cleave on the "YY" to be 60

[muted peak]

yeah I know trying out but looks like I will stick with one if I choose one

[void dragon]

XX doesnt matter since that will grow as you upgrade the weapon

[agile forge]

Also mark 6 supremacy for it

Much more versatile

[severe jolt]

It's a terrible weapon for people new to the game because they might not have access to power cycler blessing

[hollow ibex]

it's not the easiest weapon to use either

takes some practice

[muted peak]

also no offense but I m just looking at your sentences like a dumbass who doesnt get anything@agile forge@void dragon

can you simplify a bit?

[muted peak]

there are blessings?

oh wait the weapon blessing yeah

[void dragon]

to be fair: english isnt my native language

[muted peak]

not mine either brother

so you recommend taking one with the higher cleave damage?

is that correct?

[severe jolt]

Yes there's one called "Power Cycler" that gives you 2 more powered hits on each powering-up of the sword. That makes the power sword a LOT easier to use.

[muted peak]

[void dragon]

yeah, you want the stats to line up like this

[muted peak]

holy

weapon

[hollow ibex]

and this is what you want for perks (blue) and blessings (green)

though take brumentum, not sunder

[void dragon]

the numbers on the right is what you want to aim when getting new ones

[muted peak]

omnissiah would grade this weapon as a holy relic

[void dragon]

those are the "upper limit" of the weapon

[muted peak]

noted

[hollow ibex]

yeah this is from the guide in the pins btw

hammer of the emperor

has everything you'll need. it's a bit old, but 95% of it is up to date.

[muted peak]

[agile forge]

Learn the combos with it too!

[muted peak]

power sword seems good against everything

[agile forge]

The single target combo is really important

[muted peak]

a bit lacking I guess but there isnt a perfect weapon in this game as I see

[agile forge]

It's vulnerable to getting caught out, since it has the set-up time

It's still one of the best in the game

I just can't deal with the activation loop, personally

[hollow ibex]

it 100% is

just hard to play

[muted peak]

yeah activation loop seems a bit of a headache

[hollow ibex]

poor mobility, coupled with constant activation

but once you work it out, it's the strongest vet melee

[muted peak]

but we are veteran dude we are not meant to be on the frontline

I think I will manage

gonna try it out now

[hollow ibex]

vet's a frontline hybrid melee-shooter class

it's no longer a ranged class-- that's psyker

[muted peak]

wat

oh shi

[hollow ibex]

yeah vet's changed over the years

[muted peak]

for the last part

[hollow ibex]

the current class design really wants you to play hybrid

[muted peak]

I need a ranged weapon to go with power sword

[hollow ibex]

because you simply don't have the ammo economy to play ranged only on most builds

[agile forge]

Melee psyker also exists too

[hollow ibex]

yeah but if you want to play pure ranged, psyker's the best class for that

[agile forge]

SG/DD FGS is hilarious

[muted peak]

That's what we love

[hollow ibex]

and even melee psyker comes with a gun usually

• assail (ranged)

[muted peak]

I didnt mean pure ranged you can take out small fries with your melee and take down ranged and elites as the ranged

[hollow ibex]

yeah that's fine

[muted peak]

suits me best

[hollow ibex]

i just see a lot of newbie vets spraying all their ammo into hordes

and then dying

the guardsman larp is real

[muted peak]

lmao

That's why guard is a meat grinder then

[hollow ibex]

yeah because vets don't learn how to melee 😭

[muted peak]

only thing I need is a good ranged weapon that compliments power sword

[hollow ibex]

anything works really

because power sword can also do anything

[muted peak]

hmmm

[hollow ibex]

personally if you want a really sweaty but fun combo

try power sword + double barrel

with weapon specialist

swing once, gun automatically reloads, shoot once, swing again

[muted peak]

hm

actually shotguns arent my thing

[severe jolt]

I'd say infantry autogun, with focus target keystone

[muted peak]

and I don't have that shotgun

I think I will try lasgun

https://tenor.com/view/imperial-guard-cat-warhammer40k-gif-23254825

[hollow ibex]

lasgun's a bit of a struggle rn, but you'll be fine because you have a power sword

https://tenor.com/view/imperial-guard-cat-warhammer40k-gif-23254825

[muted peak]

I hate not being able to send files

[muted peak]

[hollow ibex]

talk a bit more and you'll get embedding privs

[muted peak]

embedding privs?

what's it for?

[hollow ibex]

for gifs like this

and yeah you'll be able to upload files as well

[muted peak]

oh oke

[muted peak]

wanna feel like a commissar or an officer in the guard

as a starved fan, darktide is the closest I get to see the guard

[agile forge]

I used to take it with my marksman e-stance IAG build

Very stressful build lmao

Think i started to do better with it once I swapped to a rashad

[muted peak]

chainsword is peak

[neat stratus]

So I learned that the RX 580, my card, is an RX 480 with better bios - I have a 9 year old gpu 😂

[copper ingot]

i saw that someone players spam like crazy focus target keystone, is it do something? like with every spam mark give it stack soo you dont need to wait to have max? and if i reapply focus target mark on enemy it reset stacks or it just prelong markt time on enemy

[hollow ibex]

that's the right way to do it

you ping, kill quickly, ping again

you don't want for stacks to recover

[copper ingot]

yes, but they spam it on one enemy

[hollow ibex]

oh

then that's just annoying

[loud belfry]

and such cards weren't even good at the time either

rx 580 is weaker than a damn 980 from literally 10 years ago

[tough mason]

For crowd clear on heavy sword , which mark is best for it?

[normal bay]

IX

[tough mason]

does first target matter on heavy sword or no?

[normal bay]

Yes

Dump defences

[tame lodge]

Yes
Most important stat on all weapons that have it

[hollow ibex]

Pins has all this information and more-- specifically the Hammer of the Emperor guide. It's a bit old, but 95% of it is still relevant since vet has barely seen any changes lol.

[void dragon]

[insert angry babyrage of "vet rework when" here]

[hollow ibex]

true

ourbites is going to be the new vet prob

[tough mason]

yea that's what I was wondering about as well on how up to date it is

appreciated

[hollow ibex]

there's an updated one that will be out anytime now...

surely

but yeah the pinned one is still more than good enough

[long dove]

Does damage resistance against mutants mean the specific unit named Mutant or does that mean a group of units that are mutants?

[pseudo fiber]

The specific unit the mutant

[long dove]

Dang, trying to look that up would say poxbursters are mutants

[hollow ibex]

Corruption resist will help against bursters but it's not worth it

Better to take more hp instead

[long dove]

So what should I have damage reduction against? I read snipers should be one but it also said mutants.

[hollow ibex]

Definitely not mutants

[normal bay]

Gunners mainly

[hollow ibex]

Sniper and gunner are the most common picks

[normal bay]

I run 2 x gunner res & 1 x sniper res on basically every build

I've heard people using bomber resist now in havoc due to the spam

[long dove]

Okay, what about the main blessing? I guess on the curio? I have one that's 21% Health. I read that wounds are bad to go

[tropic notch]

Dump cleave targets or defense

[tough mason]

why dump cleave targets?

[tropic notch]

Headtaker gives cleave and deathblow ingores hitmass on weakspot kill

[hollow ibex]

wounds are basically training wheels-- you should take them off asap

outside of havoc, which is a unique cookie, it's generally a good idea to go 200+ hp, then rest toughness

[tough mason]

I see

[hollow ibex]

but if you trust your teammates, you can ignore the 200hp part

curio perks are usually a mix of gunner/sniper resist, hp/toughness, cdr if you really want it

oh and 3x sprint efficiency

[crude star]

what are some guns to try if i really liked helbore

[hollow ibex]

mandatory on vet

[hollow ibex]

unironically? revolver

and bolter

[tropic notch]

Yeah it’s 40% cleave from headtaker and vets whole gimmick is reward via precision

[tame lodge]

Vigilant mk7

[tropic notch]

Hit the head and win

Deathblow my beloved

[abstract sand]

hi fellas i think i've asked this a billion times but i am still confused on the plasma gun stats

im seeing 69 thermal 71 charge but on reddit i saw this

[pseudo fiber]

Incorrect and wrong ignore that comment

[last marten]

ive been aiming for this

[abstract sand]

Thought so

[pseudo fiber]

69 thermal gives you 8 shots from 0 heat which is the maximum number

[abstract sand]

what a weird stat breakpoint

lol

[pseudo fiber]

(so 80 thermal is also 8 shots)

It is yeaah

reddit downvotes anyone who explains this

because they're all dumb

[abstract sand]

thats why i come here for factchecking ❤️

im kind of tired of the recon lasgun so i wanted to try plasma with weapon specialist

[abstract sand]

ive also seen uh

rising heat/blaze away

which one do you think is more effective

dawg

so close

welp

off to become food for hadron

[long dove]

Wait you can post images in here? I tried yesterday qnd I couldnt

[narrow frost]

you need red name

just talk more

[calm shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1220146816612302932/1276594914725200053/a_654711e3dd0c785a7b098a5d23fdaf4b.gif

[long dove]

Ah okay

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-yap-yapper-yapping-gif-5642199211123099306

[neat stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kiss-cat-kiss-cat-kissing-smooch-gif-26561109

What's the dump on chainsword?

[long dove]

Btw is 25% damage against unarmored and flak armored enemies on a sapper shovel mk I with Uncanny Strike and Decimator good?

[odd sparrow]

The reason people have that misconception about the plasma is that charge rated used to secretly matter for damage calculations because of whacky programming. After they fixed it, it still turns out that with no real dump stat on plasma getting the maximum value from thermal resist with 8 shots from 0 is still better than shooting ever so slightly faster with higher charge rate

[abstract sand]

always mobility or defence (whichever it has)

which

chainsword has mobility so

[narrow frost]

mobilty on Csword

[long dove]

Is mobility dump stat on mk1 shovel?

[hollow ibex]

this is only half correct. the bug was indeed fixed, but you still want 69 thermal/71 charge.

[narrow frost]

does it have a defense stat?

i forgot

if not then mobilty

[long dove]

Both

[narrow frost]

then dump defense

[long dove]

Ugh

Well I wasted resources

[narrow frost]

no need to min-max if you not have the materials

mobility is fine dump as well

[long dove]

What about thr perks and blessings I put on it?

[hollow ibex]

📌 Pins has all this information and more-- specifically the Hammer of the Emperor guide. It's a bit old, but 95% of it is still relevant since vet has barely seen any changes lol.

[long dove]

Ah okay

[lost plume]

so im kind of confused on the whole weapons thing

[gilded wraith]

how far into the new havoc does rashad hold up with brutal momentum? Do I hit a point where it can't reach horde one-shots?

[lost plume]

what is the meaning of the % for say damage or something

[lost plume]

so say if its like

20/50%

i got 30% more potential

[open ravine]

Inspection will tell you the exact numbers

[hollow ibex]

yeah

[lost plume]

would i be able to post an image here?

[hollow ibex]

after you talk more and get soldier role

[open ravine]

Yeah but honestly it's more like 37.5 percent more potential as 80% is actually 100% but fatshark wanted to be special

[loud belfry]

upload to imgur and send link if you can't just upload it here

[lost plume]

https://imgur.com/a/OZwH9UI

[open ravine]

It's decent but you have to hyper focus build for recon to be good as it has some serious falloff in higher difficulty

[hollow ibex]

this is what you should aim for

(from pins)

[hollow ibex]

recon las is one of vet's meta weapons, used everything from sedation to havoc 40

[open ravine]

Yeah but you have to get the right perks or you ain't doing shit with it

[hollow ibex]

true of any weapon...

[lost plume]

let me post my full build if i can

currently in a game rn lol

[void dragon]

*dueling sword feel that lack of supremacy respect

[uncut pebble]

And knife.

[hollow ibex]

eh you'd def still feel missing breakpoints if you dumb the wrong stuff on those weapons / take bad blessings and perks

[lost plume]

https://imgur.com/a/fAtnqQn

heres the talents

currently mainly damage, toughness, and reload

[hollow ibex]

you're running recon las right? try this instead.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e3a17a9-c4c4-4f9b-855b-c37250ad14f2/basic-bitch-recon-las

[tropic notch]

Dis is silly

[frank monolith]

2

[lost plume]

ill try that

[hollow ibex]

remember to use your melee frequently as well. #1 mistake i see new vets making is not using their melee.

[void dragon]

"gun class must use gun", and while kinda true you still should melee to save ammo (even if some human melee weapons are genuinely mid imo)

[gilded wraith]

The gun class is fast approaching the title of 4th best ranged class 🤔

[long dove]

okay this guide confuses me. it's not worth taking Longshot but that's the literal start of the Marksman branch? Do I just not go longshot and start with another tree and go into marksman that way?

[gilded wraith]

You can take any of the first tier of trees, middle and right are generally preferable.

[long dove]

Why? Cause staying at range is bad?

[supple stag]

First tiers of middle and right have better talents

[unreal nova]

Because longshot does nothing and ET isn't enough to compensate for how bad it is.

[long dove]

So the bonus damage isn't good enough for staying back?

[pseudo fiber]

welceom to the plasma casino my friend

[abstract sand]

yea

deleted because i saw the other stat

pain.

[unreal nova]

More like, you get no buff if anything is close to you. By close, I mean in 30m around you.

[narrow frost]

@long dove A common thing people dont realize is that the talent tree directions dont dictate how you build/play (i.e left side vet being ranged) you take the talents that will help you and then play however you want

[long dove]

Oh

[unreal nova]

Mind you, around 5m is melee range.

[narrow frost]

I can play like a ranged vet while being most of the center talents

hope that helps a bit

[long dove]

Also the perks considered not worth are the ones you have to pick for executioners stance lol

[unreal nova]

And coherency range is 8m.

[pseudo fiber]

kill zone is fine enough

[unreal nova]

Wait till Ripper casino for electric boogaloo.

[long dove]

Yeah just getting back onto the game so relearning is a pain plus trying to get better at the builds

[pseudo fiber]

Well folks here are always open to helping in my experience

[long dove]

Well I'd love help over voice since that's easier for me

[umbral scaffold]

For double barrel shotgun, which mark is best in the long run?

[pseudo fiber]

there is only 1 double barrel mark

[umbral scaffold]

Ohhhh oops. Lol

[long dove]

what's the alternate fire on Helbore? Just charging?

oh nevermind it's ADS

Deadshot worth using?

[pseudo fiber]

Not really

[vague summit]

my beatin' stick

[tame lodge]

Eh
Helps stacking CRIT with surgical and that's it, helbys handling is good enough so the other bonuses of Deadshit are whatever
However, you can just wait another milliseconds and stack surgical

[abstract sand]

plasma gun roulette continues

[austere mica]

Why would you do that to yourself

It isn't even worth it

[abstract sand]

what do you suggest i do instead

[austere mica]

Idk

Leave rolling a perfect plasma for later

[trim steppe]

How deep are you

[hollow ibex]

play bolter instead

[abstract sand]

enough for the sunk cost fallacy to activate

[trim steppe]

I got this after 2 mil and said "Yup that's as close as I'm gonna get"

[umbral nest]

Running a bolt pistol/dueling sword build. Anyone have tips for getting good with bolt pistol

My aim with it is currently horrible

[abstract sand]

Yes

Discard it for the Stub Revolver

[canned laughter]

[signal zinc]

fellas is this a goated lasgun

[magic aurora]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/253
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/278

Use these two mods, remove bpistol sights, use crosshair remap to set a rapid fire crosshair when aiming down signts

The bolt weapons have their recoil bugged and itll make your viewmodel bounce around all fucky

Doing this is a workaround

[magic aurora]

Install Buy Until Rating mod so you can pull 40 plasma guns in one button press

[umbral nest]

thanks

[umbral nest]

going to need emperor's cash money for that

[magic aurora]

I would expect that if you're pulling for a plasma god roll that you'd already have tons of cash

[hollow ibex]

oof imagine pulling them one by one...

honestly i wished the mod would allow for pulling until you have desired stats

[magic aurora]

Yeah

Also man vet with the heavy sword is so fun

I can't believe people think this weapon is bad

[hollow ibex]

hsword is fun

i do wished it had more impactful vfx/sfx tho

dclaw honestly feels like the stronger weapon

despite being considerably weaker

[magic aurora]

Could use a bit of a touch up

[hollow ibex]

yeah would be nice

[magic aurora]

Carried by the elite/special kill sound

And the crit sound

Those help a lot

Weapon def feels awkward at first and that audio/visual feedback can go a long way towards making a weapon feel better

[hollow ibex]

yeah

[magic aurora]

https://streamable.com/9gycsp

Like this

[tepid pivot]

anyone got a build i could follow? getting back into this game and i forgot how i had my veteran built

[narrow frost]

Here is a basic vet build to start off with

vet usually builds their tree to fit their weapons

so it will change depending on what you use

[tepid pivot]

idek what to use at this point, logged on and i had a bolter and an axe

what would you recomend?

[narrow frost]

keep trying different weapons, I was around 1500 hours in before I found my fav and I still use it 1500 hours later

[steel pendant]

bolter o bolter pistol?

[tepid pivot]

big one

[hollow ibex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f1c57f4-d600-4673-9d86-d7895f39af23/fresh-corpsestarch

can try this too

[signal zinc]

I'm starting to think the 10% reload speed perk does jack diddly shit on the long term

[sharp cave]

i love the trail and error of build making

its fun

[austere mica]

Correct

Why would you ever run reload speed over an armor damage perk

[sharp cave]

ayo nice pfp

[signal zinc]

Thx

[sharp cave]

i love skitarii rangers

[signal zinc]

I mean why increase reload speed when you can remove one of the factors that needs you to reload

[austere mica]

Exactly

[grand perch]

I used to run reload speed in ancient times when reloading your plasma gun was the only way of getting rid of the heat without taking health damage

[signal zinc]

Thx

I used to run reload speed because I played too much KF2 and Payday 2 where gunplay is 90% of the game

But Darktide ain't like that

[sharp cave]

am i the only one who feels like the mortis trials give off killing floor 2 vibes

[signal zinc]

anyways everyone say hi to Henry the Lasgun

he has carried me through many a runs

[umbral nest]

you can name weapons?

[signal zinc]

With a mod, yes

[sharp cave]

my gun told me to kill them all

[uncut pebble]

Sprint efficiency ewwwww...

[hollow ibex]

don't tell me you run stam regen...

[uncut pebble]

Yeah I run stam regen.

Vet is allergic to melee without it.

[neat stratus]

sniper resistance meta

[uncut pebble]

🙄

[uncut pebble]

It's really not.

[neat stratus]

Im not serious

[uncut pebble]

Getting the breakpoint to eat a sniper round is quite annoying.

[uncut pebble]

Oh ok I'll just go explode then ig.

[neat stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-batman-the-joker-why-so-serious-gif-14263650074740919861

[hollow ibex]

do you always run a stam regen delay node

[uncut pebble]

No.

Too expensive for what I usually do, talent wise.

[hollow ibex]

stam regen feels like shit without regen delay node

[uncut pebble]

Manage your stamina better then ig?

[tepid pivot]

Is the dueling sword for vet good? Doing more build research and it seems to be a popular choice

[hollow ibex]

or i can simply take the better stam perk for my curious?

[hollow ibex]

yes, and it's a crutch that will absolutely remove any chances that you'll get better at the game

because it's overpowered as fuck

[tepid pivot]

What makes it so strong? And what is a better alternative?

[hollow ibex]

extremely high single target damage, takes less than half a brain cell to use

and still workable horde clear

[austere mica]

Also finesse scaling

[void dragon]

absolute highest safety in movility is also a big pro on it

[hollow ibex]

yeah it's just very easy to use, while being way too good

[tepid pivot]

This is making it look tempting, but also chainsword go brrrr

[hollow ibex]

and i suspect will be nerfed

even if fatshart is really adverse to nerfing

[hollow ibex]

csword is on the opposite end tbh

it has been powercreeped quite hard

[tepid pivot]

Dayum

Uhh

Powersword?

[hollow ibex]

prob the strongest vet melee overall rn

in the hands of a good player

second or third strongest vet melee, in the hands of a mediocre player

[tepid pivot]

Just looking for a alternative to what i had when i logged on, an axe and a bolter

[midnight wyvern]

the mobility will make you want to die, the funny powered cleave is very nice though

[hollow ibex]

rashad combat axe is very strong as well

but yeah power sword/knife/rashad/DS are the meta in terms of melee

[tepid pivot]

What are some top picks for a gun? Im guessing plasma gun is up there

[midnight wyvern]

plasma is probably top, bolter is doable

[hollow ibex]

plasma, bolter, revolver (outside of havoc), recon las, bistol, double barrel

honestly a lot of options there

[midnight wyvern]

he makes guns pretty good

[tepid pivot]

Bolter i was having major ammo issues, was looking at the recon las or the plasma gun

[void dragon]

Bolter is really powerful on its own right, ammo management is important but absolutely can put a good fight (and prob can do boss killing quite well)

they like melee weapons that can clear hordes with ease so it can clean elites

[midnight wyvern]

can confirm, cavalcade and pinning fire removes bosses very well

[crude star]

double barrel, really? is that liek a weapon specialist choice?

[void dragon]

Kinda, you use it as a horde cleaning weapon, swapping with melee to fuel each part, made it work even with shovel due uncanny, because normally it doesn't perform well Vs caparace.

Idk if it last to havoc, but you can use the double shot to kill muties

[midnight wyvern]

just pick up ammo before everyone else can

[tepid pivot]

Im too nice

[hollow ibex]

yeah you need weapon specialist

it's lowkey honestly one of the best vet weapons

and definitely the most fun (though fun is subjective)

[crude star]

i keep going back to helbore cuz i just like it a lot for some reason

[midnight wyvern]

if you're not spraying hordes a bunch its ammo is generally fine, holding shoot into mixed/straight up full armour groups is priceless, mag dumping bosses is great

I can krak nade wake up a daemonhost and kill it with bolter before it even gets to attack

never going to get old

[void dragon]

Having 9a shovel/Dbarrel krieg build and can confirm: it's HELLA fun, weaving shotgun shots with shovel smacks feel amazing

[analog yacht]

Did they 'fix' uncanny applying to all sources of damage?

[narrow frost]

NO

*caps

[frail citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-david-acosta-evil-the-demon-of-death-sad-gif-25950306

another dooler joins the herd

[dapper wharf]

poking specials in the head is very funny

[frail citrus]

it is the perfect weapon for mutie clear

but it is very "turn ur brain off"

[dapper wharf]

casual joust match each time

[frail citrus]

and when you get gunned down because you mess up 1 time

ur team will say "why u always rush why u always charge"

the BIG problem

[dapper wharf]

aggro build when the team can't keep up hurts sometimes

like let me speeeed

[frail citrus]

i always make sure i have a buddy

and if i see someone doesnt have a buddy

i make sure its solved fast

[dapper wharf]

if I want to turn my brain off I put the Braced Auto Gun on and hold the trigger with sharpshooter

[frail citrus]

at least with that you'll be out of ammo in like 5 seconds if you just W+M1

[dapper wharf]

its not too bad honestly as long as I'm just hunting ranged and specials with it

[frail citrus]

i havent used it on vet, but i use it on my gunker for boss DPS

yeah its really good

[dapper wharf]

let the trash mobs eat a Rashad

[frail citrus]

rashad is also nuts

[dapper wharf]

absolutely a workhorse

[frail citrus]

ive been enjoying the powersword more recently

but i hope the chain swords get buffed

i miss them

[dapper wharf]

its my combo if I have been getting really bad teams

and yeah

the chains are so lacking these days

[frail citrus]

i try to use it every now and again it just genuinely feels so bad to play

[dapper wharf]

especially the heavies on Zealot

[frail citrus]

like i feel like im doing nothing helpful by having it lol

and the stupid rev i have to do it like a million times for it to mean anything

[dapper wharf]

at least the chainaxe is okay now

still jarring on the camera

even though they said that was gone

[frail citrus]

meh, chainaxe isnt as aesthetically pleasing for me

[dapper wharf]

yep

[frail citrus]

too big and blocky

[dapper wharf]

I want the longer ones

[frail citrus]

ive seen gameplay of it i know its good

[hollow ibex]

chaxe is pretty meh on vet

[frail citrus]

but man i just cant bring myself walking around looking like that LOL

so goofy

[hollow ibex]

or even bad

it's decent/good only on zealot

[frail citrus]

i was gonna say it was one of the two

ive seen good gameplay of it somewhere

[dapper wharf]

yeah compared to vet's other melees

it just doesn't bring anything to the class

[frail citrus]

i think the rev up ability on the chain sword is interesting

And needs to be reworked in some way

or buffed

[hollow ibex]

yeah it needs a buff/rework

like most of the human arsenal lol

[dapper wharf]

just make everything like the Relic Blade duh

[hollow ibex]

true...

[frail citrus]

when is vet getting their two handed

[dapper wharf]

on a serious note it would be nice if more melees had an up-time like the RB

[dapper wharf]

Or a powerfist like in tabletop

[frail citrus]

i like using the powersword again tho

which i thought never would be possible

so they might clutch up

[dapper wharf]

I haven't used it since the crafting rework

mainly b/c I disliked it so much

[frail citrus]

you dont lose your charge on hit anymore i think

[dapper wharf]

same issue I have with the Paul on Ogryn

and that's only with Power Cycler

otherwise it feels so clunky to use

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

it was "fixed"

but the fix is bugged

you still lose your charge if you're hit while attacking

because fuck you

[unreal nova]

You get hit while attacking, it goes poof still.

[dapper wharf]

so I won't be using it then, noted

[unreal nova]

Quality fix.

[dapper wharf]

"just don't get hit"

[frail citrus]

ive been managing to do it

[unreal nova]

Just like their servers.

[dapper wharf]

g o d

[frail citrus]

if you add a push into your attack thats usually enough to keep them away

[unreal nova]

Very quality.

[frail citrus]

plus with VOC

[dapper wharf]

I'm so sick of dogs teleporting

[frail citrus]

no noise dogs are the worst

[dapper wharf]

or crushers suddenly becoming like 10 feet closer

[frail citrus]

mordhau crushers

[dapper wharf]

gonna get angled all over again

[frail citrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1096439101978325022/1145278498987069480/caption.gif

[dapper wharf]

its funny dead angling in Darktide sometimes

[frail citrus]

i think crushers having that stupid range and no turncap is especially bad in havocs

because theres already a million of them and evrrything else around me

great now i have to worry about the crusher behind all the other crushers to phase through his friends and hit me with his giant hammer

[dapper wharf]

don't forget the dog or trapper behind them all that you can't hit or see

[unreal nova]

Quality balance.

[frail citrus]

you mean the dog and trapper i had to dodge simutaneously, but because crushers auto lock i softlocked myself into his attack animation?

[unreal nova]

I expect a wall of crushers to like, block the net or dog.

[dapper wharf]

I get why they don't but I agree

it would make it so much harder to fit all of them in the map

have hallways lined with crushers and bulwarks like a line for a midnight release at Gamestop in 2009

[frail citrus]

then again, i think to a certain point in havoc the game becomes so unabalanced towards you that such unfairness is unavoidable

[frail citrus]

beast of nurgle too who eats you

and just lets you sit until ur 1 hp and then he spits you out into bomber

[dapper wharf]

stoooop reminding me

with this past event too my god

BoN everywhere

slap you into a corner

[frail citrus]

do you guys remember when they did the tentacle event for the first time

before they made it havoc only

[unreal nova]

Min 6 BoNs... THAT event, right?

[frail citrus]

for some reason amillion beast of nurgles would spawn in that mission

like at almost every boss checkpoint there was a beast

it felt like i was losing my fucking mind i was being digested almost every game

[dapper wharf]

I started using the Bolter again just b/c of them

just to burst them down

so the team doesn't wipe due to a badly timed BoN or other monster

[frail citrus]

i havent tried the bolter on vet yet

well like ihave but

it was 1 mission and i didnt really like it that much, but i havent tried it with weapon spec

it might be good with that im thinking

[dapper wharf]

I like it, at least more then the Plasma Gun

I want to like the PG but its too clunky for my tastes

I always find myself thinking "I could just be using the Bolter rn"

[frail citrus]

reload time?

you can cheese that

[dapper wharf]

more the delay in firing

[frail citrus]

ahhh i undestand that

i like it

but honestly

the way the crosshair moves in as you charge it up messes up my aim so bad

its so distracting and just confuses me

[dapper wharf]

can't see the reticule half the time due to sway and the muzzle flashing

[frail citrus]

🥫 ?

[dapper wharf]

went to hit the ' button and hit enter lol

https://tenor.com/view/sml-jeffy-my-hands-dont-work-hands-not-working-hands-dont-work-gif-27571418

[frail citrus]

i feel like the boltgun would run out of ammo fast tho no?

[dapper wharf]

not if you use it for larger enemies

or priority targets

[frail citrus]

its like ur reaper/monstrosity gun?

[dapper wharf]

yeah, or any priority target

[frail citrus]

what keystone you use

[dapper wharf]

the rest of the enemies I'll just melee to death

I like using it with Combat Specialist

the right tree one

the left one isn't bad either

but having to stand still or constantly kill with said weapon to keep it active doesn't feel great

on a gun with limited ammo

I'd rather use something that lends itself to swapping often

[unreal nova]

I just started then since Humble Choice. Trauma.

[frail citrus]

id figure yeah, combat specialist makes sense

i feel like as ive played more and more ive used it more and more compared to the others ones

i still like hte middle keystone tho

its good if you use it what its made for

[dapper wharf]

I haven't used middle much, actually at all funnily enough; I'll have to make one

I've used Voice of Command, but never went to the bottom

always went off to either side

[frail citrus]

might be controversial but i have a lot of fun pairing it with infantry lasgun

[unreal nova]

Pinging on controller is annoying.

[dapper wharf]

any reason? just due to being able to pick targets off after marking?

[dapper wharf]

oof controller

sorry bud

[frail citrus]

yes, its very good at long range and is perfect for killing anything thats bothering you from really far away except maybe reapers but with the perk that negates ammo consumption on crits long TTK is never disuaded against flesh

BUT

also

infantry lasgun is nuts as close range too

[dapper wharf]

yeah I figured as much

[frail citrus]

Its a really good skirmish weapon

[unreal nova]

I can still do 300 ping h40s.

[frail citrus]

The only problem with lasgun is that maybe its damage feels a little meh

but with the damage boost in middle tree

it becomes a functional weapon

[dapper wharf]

I wouldn't doubt it, but I can't play shooters with a controller these days

[frail citrus]

and i feel like with the other weapons on middle tree the damage becomes overkill

[uncut pebble]

Incorrect, ilas has reverse damage falloff.

You deal less damage the closer you are to a target.

[unreal nova]

More like, if thing infront of you, you ded.

[uncut pebble]

If you want a snappy headshot weapon for cqc you use laspistol.

[dapper wharf]

how bad of a falloff?

[unreal nova]

IDK, I just have an easier time on controller. Mostly cos more melee focused.

[frail citrus]

i do just fine with it so

[unreal nova]

Just never put me on snipe duty.

[frail citrus]

idk what u doing wrong

[uncut pebble]

Don't remember off the top of my head but I'm sure Path's guide has it written down.

[uncut pebble]

It's literally not an operator error, it's how the gun works.

[dapper wharf]

I'll have a look

[frail citrus]

so my good matches with it are ??

[uncut pebble]

It is objectively not good at close range due to reverse damage falloff.

You either do not notice/care that you are taking more shots to drop things.

Or you are playing malice.

[frail citrus]

lol

[uncut pebble]

(everything works in malice)

[frail citrus]

the lodyte part of ur name def correct

[uncut pebble]

Methinks you shouldn't recommend a weapon for a job it isn't made for to new players.

[frail citrus]

how do you think im using it

[uncut pebble]

Anywho, laspistol is great for cqc and arguably better than ilas for versatility reasons. That being said, ilas does have a place as a mid/long range specialist and gunner removal tool.

[frail citrus]

do you think im walking up to ppl spamming M1

[uncut pebble]

Must I find clips of vets doing that exact thing?

[frail citrus]

or clearing hordes of it

[unreal nova]

That's the avg pub vet.

[frail citrus]

am i vets

like

lol

[dapper wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/alf-hey-theres-no-need-for-name-calling-no-name-calling-dont-call-names-gif-26039771

[frail citrus]

this is the vet class discussion channel, no stereotyping here!

[uncut pebble]

Yes, stereotyping. It exists in every channel.

[unreal nova]

Even the bots do it.

[uncut pebble]

Don't like the stereotype? Don't be one.

[frail citrus]

yeah and the bots are shit

[uncut pebble]

So are average pubbers.

[unreal nova]

Dear FS, stop giving the bots inf las.

[frail citrus]

I am def stereotyping

You sound like the same dudes who sit on only havoc 40 all day

and anything else is simply an inferior way to play

[uncut pebble]

No, I'm stating objective fact regarding ilas, as someone who enjoys ilas.

It's not good within close range (I believe it's fatsharks definition of close, being 12.5m) because it deals less damage.

[unreal nova]

I think it's stupid they start you with it.

It's kinda a niche gun tbh.

[frail citrus]

def, especially cuz it throws you into the gunplay of darktide

some people cant handle its greatness

like the frog here

[uncut pebble]

Vet shouldn't have volley fire for its starting ability, change my mind.

[frail citrus]

he doesnt get it at its best

so he dropped it at its worst

[unreal nova]

Having to be 30m from an enemy in a horde game to get the most out of it...

Yeah. Just give ppl even Braced Autoguns would be saner.

[frail citrus]

yeah then they dump it into the first guy they see and now they have no more ammo

[unreal nova]

Inf Autos are just good. Headhunters could work as well.

[uncut pebble]

@tall torrent how much is the max falloff for ilas reverse damage falloff and what's the distance it begins? It's not written in your guide and I forgor.

[uncut pebble]

Headhunters have exactly 1 weakness, and that's low maniac damage.

[unreal nova]

If you just want to teach ppl to shoot heads without the reverse falloff.

Though if you played literally any shooter in like the last 25 years...

[stuck tree]

😲

[frail citrus]

idk man when i started playing darktide the lasguns recoil caught me off guard

put me off for a long time

but that was back when we had VT skills

and only volley of fire

[unreal nova]

Is why the fast mark for heavy pistol is better.

[uncut pebble]

Yeah, mk2 laspistol >>> mk10 laspistol.

[frail citrus]

laspistol just looks so stupid

[unreal nova]

If there's any recoil, chances are, it's your hand.

[frail citrus]

im sorry

i cant be caught dead with that thing in my hands

[uncut pebble]

Raw dps, ghost value, infernus value, crit and finesse, recoil...

[unreal nova]

Clearly it's a ploy to get you to buy skins.

[frail citrus]

god forbid fatshark makes a good weapon skin 🙏

[uncut pebble]

Just use weapon customization mod, smh.

[frail citrus]

cant spare the fps

too much stuff on my screen

[unreal nova]

Need better PC if I can even be bothered.

I can't afford a new one.

[umbral scaffold]

have you ever explored an issue some people have had with i think it was some shader file?

for me it was turning off portrait rendering and then what i just mentioned and now i rarely have any fps issues like ever

[short sinew]

yippee!

[stuck shuttle]

any recommendations for kill shot ready achievement?

[pseudo fiber]

Double barrel shotgun

[umbral scaffold]

Anyone have any good infiltrate combat blade builds lol

Never actually used infiltrate before

[muted peak]

what can I use the assault chainsword for? like can I both clean hordes and deal with specials?

and what stats should I look out for in that weapon?

[pseudo fiber]

Everything max but mobility

It has great horde clear

That's kinda it

[muted peak]

hm

is it effective in special clearing?

special enemy I mean

[grand perch]

nope

[muted peak]

It looks effective to me as I experienced

[muted peak]

[grand perch]

its about average at specials

[dry cloak]

@muted peak specials as in trapper or shotgunners

[muted peak]

I guess they count as specials

[grand perch]

struggles mightily with elites such as ragers and crushers.

[dry cloak]

Shotgunners are elites

[muted peak]

hmmmm

[dry cloak]

If you go the psykhanium specials are clunped together

All of them

Flamers bombers and such

[muted peak]

🤔

[grand perch]

bottom line is chainsword is subpar at most things a melee should do, has one good aspect (trash horde clear but not mixed horde clear) and is actively dangerous to your health when you have to rely on a special that locks you in to take care of specific enemies

[muted peak]

so is it like devil's claw but a chainsword in that regard?

[grand perch]

p much, both need love

[dry cloak]

Devils claw better imo

And yes both need love

[muted peak]

there are horde types?

[grand perch]

when you have only poxwalkers coming at you, its fine. you clear those fast

[muted peak]

why?

[dry cloak]

Parry

Wich shuts up ragers

[grand perch]

if there's ragers, crushers or similar mixed in, thats a mixed horde and CHsword doesnt really have an answer to those

[muted peak]

oh I see

[dry cloak]

As vet? Shoot

[muted peak]

that sounded off wrong

what weapon can I pick for mixed hordes?

[grand perch]

you'd usually need to use resources like shout or grenades

[muted peak]

I just tried a mortis trial and felt like my chainsword lacked a bit

[grand perch]

if youre starting out learning to melee? powersword

if youre an expert with thousands of hours? also powersword

[muted peak]

I m not a complete beginner

I played vermintide 2 before so I am a bit accustomed

[muted peak]

activation time is a headache

what about the chainaxe?

[grand perch]

its been a while since i used chainaxe. rare pick on veteran, theyre a bit weird by having light be the single target option on one mark for example

@steep flower could tell you all about it

[grand perch]

you want to block cancel every activation, takes much less time

[steep flower]

Someone has mentioned me!

[grand perch]

an alternative would be rashad 3 combat axe. very straightforward move set, heavies for armored enemies, lights for horde clear. kills several enemies in one swing, kills armor just as well

[steep flower]

And Chainaxe

[grand perch]

push attack to stagger multiple ragers etc

[steep flower]

Can it really stagger a rager mid combo with a push? I dont recall

[autumn ferry]

i like one of the sapper shovels, forget which, the one thats heavys are just repeated left and right swings, staggers the hell out of enemies and the lights are solid enough for single target
though uh yeah hard to beat the power sword and dueling sword

[steep flower]

Mk I

[uncut pebble]

Rashad, power sword, or mk1 shovel.

Obv you don't want psword, so it's down to rashad and shovel.

[steep flower]

Mk III shovel too

[grand perch]

sure does

[uncut pebble]

Mk1 shovel does excellent damage (if you know what you're doing) and rashad is just the one-size-fits-all of mixed horde.

[autumn ferry]

the shovel also makes funny bonk noises

[uncut pebble]

Shovel does special headshot to stagger anything, then push attack, and it'll do like a third or a half of a crushers hp in that one push attack, depending on uncanny stacks. (your other blessing should be skullcrusher)

[topaz lance]

Been cooking up a build for the shredder pistol, it's surprisingly fun and effective (I play vanilla damnation mostly) but eats ammo like a big boy:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f1cf684-e109-403b-bde9-f915c89fe6f3/shredder-5

not 100% sure if the point investment into Onslaught is worth it.

[grand perch]

do you want feedback?

[topaz lance]

sure

[uncut pebble]

No iron will, onslaught isn't worth it, and the aux nodes on weapon spec aren't worth it either.

[grand perch]

yeah, that

[uncut pebble]

If you drop your weapon spec aux nodes and the pathing through onslaught you get 5 points, and you can use said 5 points to go get rending strikes and iron will, both.

[grand perch]

i just noticed deadshot

[uncut pebble]

Your autopistol will happily accept a free 10% rending and your hp will enjoy not being torn to shreds.

Oh yeah that's wack.

Change deadshot to the 30% weakspot damage.

[topaz lance]

It just works(tm)

[grand perch]

deadshot meme is funny but with the improved finesse modifier that shredder has now, go with precision strikes

ive actually done a marksmans focus build and its really effective if ammo intensive

[topaz lance]

Really? I find on yyour toes to be extremely strong. This + inspring barrage kinda make up for Iron will.

[uncut pebble]

It doesn't.

[topaz lance]

But thanks for all the feedback, I'll try a build without weapon spec nodes and onslaught#

[uncut pebble]

Like I get your angle here but what you're doing here is gimping the poor damage of your autopistol solely because you don't want iron will.

[topaz lance]

and without deadshot 😦
I also like the reduced spread from deadshot honestly

Do I go through for the emperor for Iron Wll? Honestly those nodes are all mid

I'm also guessing I should change from the crit to the power blessing on the pistol then

[grand perch]

if youre using inspiring barrage, born leader is quite nice for your team

[topaz lance]

Ah good idea, thanks!

Dump stat on the pistol is collateral right?

[steep flower]

Could be way better; i tried making shredder powerful; it turns out alright

[steep flower]

Onslaught is good

[uncut pebble]

It's not.

It has pen flames syndrome, only useful against crushers for weapons that can't kill them.

[topaz lance]

It's no COlumnus (or whatever it's called now) that's for sure

[uncut pebble]

Vraks.

[pseudo fiber]

The bolt pistol? Yea

[topaz lance]

na, shredder

[uncut pebble]

Columnus -> Vraks
Agri stayed Agri
Graia -> Columnus

[steep flower]

Debuff is a debuff; for fast firing weapons its a good option & it affects your melee too

[steep flower]

Nah mobility

[uncut pebble]

Ok, just ignore the bad pathing to it and the fact that touching literally any other enemy (even with a push) makes your onslaught stacks go poof.

[steep flower]

Graya my beloved

[muted peak]

what is rashad? I see it everywhere but dont know which weapon it is

[supple stag]

Combat axe

[uncut pebble]

Mk3 combat axe is rashad.

[muted peak]

you mean blocking right as you start activating?

[pseudo fiber]

For bolt pistol it don't do nuthin

[steep flower]

Lol no; debuff stays on any enemy you hit for 5 sec no matter if you hit someone else

[pseudo fiber]

Bolter it does

[muted peak]

[uncut pebble]

Ok then fart shack changed it since I last looked at it.

Still ain't worth due to bad pathing.

[steep flower]

Always stay informed my friend

[uncut pebble]

Nah, I'll just go on reddit and spread misinformation.

[steep flower]

[steep flower]

Apart from +5% melee dmg node rest is nice; stamina delay node is alright and Close quater killzone is good too; so no, not a bad path at all (especially considering that VoC is spammable, CQK lasts 10s and shredder auto is a close range weapon by design)

[grand perch]

yes, practice the timing in psykhanium

[umbral scaffold]

Kind of a dumb question, but what do you all find the double barrelled shotgun good against? I find it will reliably take out maulers and such, but it’s two shot limits how often you’re firing/killing.

[steep flower]

Its a fun weapon

[umbral scaffold]

Oh it’s fun for sure. I enjoy it. My first one was power level 90, playing on malice and it still reliably takes out maulers and the like. I can’t wait to see how it does when it’s actually levelled

[steep flower]

Considering how it works its mid (i’m talking from havoc perspective)

[umbral scaffold]

Oh I don’t play havoc. Just levelling a vet currently, and I play damnation/auric maelstrom at most.

[steep flower]

Test weapons when they gonna be maxed and on damnation

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah I gotta level this thing up. Only level 5 currently.

Don’t people have a way to fast level? Just buy guns and sacrifice them all?

[steep flower]

Yes

Buy grey weapon that is the weapon you want to lv up, upgrade it to green, sacrifice, repeat

[raven sedge]

I want to start levelling the plasma gun, what would be a good melee to level alongside it? Shovel, chainsword, power sword and duelling sabre are already fully levelled.

[pseudo fiber]

Combat axe

[tall torrent]

Starts at 7m
Ends at 15m

[raw needle]

@tall torrent can i get context behind this pic i stole from you btw

cause i used it in an argumend and im getting cooked

[crisp oak]

Looks like a slug

[wicked summit]

A slug?

[crisp oak]

Combat shotgun, but with the slug that does more damage at range

[tall torrent]

What’s the context u need lol

Aimed headshot

[raw needle]

with a slug

or

just lmb

[tall torrent]

Base ammo

[raw needle]

wuh

[tall torrent]

It’s not feasible to slug shot every enemy yk

[crisp oak]

How?

[tall torrent]

Wdym how

[crisp oak]

Like that damage number

Im getting like 300

[tall torrent]

Aim headshot

[crisp oak]

On a headshot

Am I using the wrong mark or did they buff it from last time I played with it

I use the kantrael

[tall torrent]

It’s mk7 in that pic

[crisp oak]

Mk7 is the normal one?

[tall torrent]

Slug

[crisp oak]

Ok

[stiff glacier]

i started to think

deadshot

with double barrel

hmmmmmmmm

[tame lodge]

Alternatively

Weapon Specialist

Guaranteed crit

[sinful thorn]

got the ogryn and zealot to lv 30, and just made a Veteran to work on, but im seeing not many current sources of information on the vet. most are a year or more old. any more current sources out there?

[tame lodge]

Don't worry

The hammer of the emperor guide still 95% good

Since Vet hasn't changed much

💀

[strange crow]

The ppl in this discord are also very helpful for bouncing ideas off of, especially our goat path.exe

[sinful thorn]

heard that

i play with friends that do havoc stuff too but they are in a different time zone lol

[pastel perch]

started to max helbore lasgun. any tips to increase my finger's stamina?

[dry cloak]

theres not much to be done

[hearty panther]

Don't hold the click down so hard when you're charging.

[pastel perch]

my finger and arm feel sore like ive went to the gym and i still need to go to the gym today 💀

[hearty panther]

It will not, in fact, charge faster the harder you press it. Not that my brain believes me either.

[dapper wharf]

everyone knows the harder you press the button, the better it works

[hollow ibex]

there's the passive helbore charge mod that might help

[grand perch]

thats also a great QoL anyway

[sinful thorn]

there a good beginner set up for vet? weapons and talent wise?

[strange crow]

Are u level 30 yet?

[hollow ibex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f1c57f4-d600-4673-9d86-d7895f39af23/fresh-corpsestarch

[dry field]

Anyone got any suggestions for a vet build that uses Chainaxe Only? Aim is Auric Maelstorm

[hollow ibex]

take any weapon specialist build, take chaxe

done

[dry field]

doesn't weapon specialist rely on switching out to ranged now and then?

[pallid jetty]

bro, are you serious

just take the fucking thing and play

[dry field]

Touch grass, you're not helpful.

[hollow ibex]

Yeah. And chaxe needs it.

[pallid jetty]

i see

[strange crow]

Wait do you actually mean not only just using melee, but using only melee with a mid weapon?

[hollow ibex]

If you want to play with only chaxe, the best way to do that is with zealot

[dry field]

Yup. I wanna see if it can be done.

[dry field]

Same question is asked in #zealot-class , so any suggestion there is welcome.

[hearty panther]

Vet does pretty well if you can afford both stam regen nodes tbh

The push attack is very strong and two delay nodes lets you spam it indefinitely

[hollow ibex]

Very big if...

And the main issue is still horde clear

[umbral scaffold]

Soooo for combat knife, which attack does the most Single target DPS? The overhead stab?

If so, what’s the attack pattern to keep chaining them?

[dry cloak]

for mk3? spam heavies for mk6 its 2 lights and a heavy iirc

[strange crow]

For mk6 it at least used to be push attack spam

[hollow ibex]

for both it's PA spam

though heavy light combo on mk3 is also ok

[umbral scaffold]

Hmmm. Gotcha. I’ve tried push attacks and it does work good for mk6.

And I’ll try the two lights and heavy. I love the knife, but I always seem to struggle with single targets. Like, I’ll kill them, but often times it takes like 3-4 hits

Often more against anything carapaced

[tropic notch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d51275b-f9c4-4494-9b88-bfafbbbf4981/terrible-vet-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[dapper wharf]

that name so true

[strange crow]

Do you have uncanny, precision strikes, and agile engagement?

[tropic notch]

@dry field dump defenses on the chaxe , flak + maniac , headtaker + slaughter

[strange crow]

Also bring it down?

Considering how fast you can chain PAs for knife, 3-4 hits shouldn’t be bad anyways

[umbral scaffold]

I do use uncanny and riposte typically, and I beleive I have AE, but haven’t tried knife on vet yet, just my zealot

[tropic notch]

Das my havoc vet build but I take psword over knife

[dry field]

slaughter over bloodletter?

[tropic notch]

Yeah bleed isn’t really good unless is paired with uncanny

[dapper wharf]

Ah, I didn't see the details, thought it was using chainaxe only like he was saying

[strange crow]

Fair enough haha, it’s very fun on vet imo

[tropic notch]

Plus it only works on the activation

And slaughter is waaaay better than bloodletter

[umbral scaffold]

I’ll check when I’m done work tonight what I have. I’m new to vet so still getting familiar with everything.

[tropic notch]

Also use the mk 4 chaxe

[tropic notch]

It’ll still do work chaxe is actually my fav chainweapon

[dapper wharf]

across any kind of chain on the other classes or just on vet

b/c if so, who hurt you

[tropic notch]

On vet other is evis

They should give vet evis

Plus I fell out of love with it because of relic

[dapper wharf]

yeah, smol chain sword is underwhelming

and I agree, the Relic Blade is just better

I loved the HE

[umbral scaffold]

This is the build I’m trying.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e994a26-a751-4091-9425-694771e03a2e/bleedmaxxing

siro suggested it. Am trying to do a catachan inspired vet!

[nimble wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/sloth-zootopia-slow-tag-stamp-gif-5368335

[dapper wharf]

Only bold statements here in Vet corner

[tropic notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246604447082352732/1365087464837877771/el_bobberto_-_1859743340524339703.gif

[nimble wadi]

That’s you

[tropic notch]

CATERPILLAR CATERPILLAR CATERPILLAR

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1288287202249408616/1328580520300249088/speed-2.gif

[nimble wadi]

NO

https://tenor.com/view/killed-em-hold-this-stabbed-gif-14017151

[tropic notch]

[nimble wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-on-you-gif-25797108

[pastel perch]

nah i mean you cant just hold the button

and you gotta manually press the button a shitton of times

[crude star]

gameplay changing mods in a multiplayer game feels kinda icky

[pastel perch]

i have 106 ammo in one battery

and +800 with me

spraying with helbore is hella exhausting

[crude star]

why would you spray with it

[dapper wharf]

^

[hollow ibex]

Hmm wdym

[sonic kayak]

Black Ops 1, now that's a throwback

[dapper wharf]

No stop its not that old

[hasty grove]

Agreed

Also if you can’t be damned to charge the lasgun manually… YOU GOT SOFT HANDS SON

[dapper wharf]

god forbid if he tries to use a light attack spam melee build

[hasty grove]

It’d Break his frail little twink wrist

[faint beacon]

You wouldn’t last a day using the Tac Axe

I’ve been in these streets for a while

[pallid jetty]

naughty ad

you wont last a minute...

[hasty grove]

Ive only ever used the chainsword since I got the game

A chainsaw sword is so overtop and ridiculous it loops back around to being badass

And grinding through the emperor’s enemies is satisfying asf

[formal ice]

It looks like a over sized cyberpunk butter knife

[hasty grove]

Cus it’s not a bladed weapom

The “blade” is just a cover for the saw

[formal ice]

Exactly

[crude star]

i find it hilarious that they say the teeth are monomolecular and you look at the teeth and they are like an inch wide

[formal ice]

I am saying that because it looks dumb

Not badass

[hasty grove]

Like 8 sId

Said*

Its such a dumb over the top concept I find it cool

[hearty panther]

oh yeeah its pure rule of cool

personally my brain cant handle it

but, now they can do lightsabers-but-industrial without getting sued

[tired monolith]

Ascension Riser Hi-Int Shock Troop Gauntlet Auric Damn

And here was me swearing that I'd never play Veteran because I hated its gameplay and that I would take that to the grave...

[narrow frost]

Sorry

Was me

Well done

[tired monolith]

Montov was you?

[grand perch]

ainz stop being a sineater

[narrow frost]

Lol

Nah

[tired monolith]

I was about to say

Stealing all my fraggin' ammo!

I think that's the highest damage I have ever done, on any classes.

[sonic kayak]

We're stiiiiilll a dreeeeaaaam... sin eateeeeeeeeerrrrrrr

[ancient path]

when the new class drops, how much are we betting veteran gets nothing that patch

[hollow ibex]

I'm hoping shotguns will get a rework

[ancient path]

the shotgun rework is playing the cop and using their shotgun

being able to revolver + shield looks damn cool

[midnight wyvern]

wonder if we're going to be able to switch to revolver and melee with the shield at the same time

or maybe the shield having some melee attacks in it

[steep flower]

Thunderous

[tropic notch]

Yeah but then your taking away headtaker

And slaughter

Which that thing desperately needs

[steep flower]

Mob not def cause def is push cost and you will be push attacking alot with mk4

[tropic notch]

That’s true I guess it can be both

[narrow frost]

The different between 60-80 def is nothing notable, mobility as well. Iirc the stam cost for 60 is like 1.8 while 80 is 1.6

[steep flower]

Nah; blood & thunder is where its at; you melt what must melt, chaf is easy as it is

[narrow frost]

Doesn't matter in the end

Dump either

But defense is less valuable

[steep flower]

I get home i will spam brunt for 60 def and test how many more pushes you get

[narrow frost]

Yes

There is so many variables with that though

[tall torrent]

1.4 vs 1.8 stam cost

[narrow frost]

Damn

Was .2 off

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-react-fish-react-him-thanos-gif-26859685

[shell spire]

Man I love knife and revolver combo

It just feels good

Now just waiting for a dope ass revolver and boltgun skins

[dry cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-react-thanos-meme-gif-26303208