supple laurel
sometimes running the meta can be really fun though
#veteran-class
narrow frost
Hey I know this video
austere mica
I wonder where from
narrow frost
Also, bunmer (one of the vets in the video) says he wants to run it again
If 2 random vets want to play smokes with us someday
I'll record another run
faint beacon
If 2 random vets want to play smokes with us someday
If im not working I feel obligated
just cause smokes are peak fucking comedy
grand perch
i probably would but havoc 40 with a challenge setup on US server 
faint beacon
Reminder that Taxe is in fact Havoc 40 viable
narrow frost
i probably would but havoc 40 with a challenge setup on US server <:Sitgryn:1016...
It'll be easy if need be
East
grand perch
suppose we could try but with time difference i'd need a day or so heads up
narrow frost
I'll add you and we'll see what we can set up
proven cargo
Wtf is the thumbnail
4 red circles, Scab Bruiser saying a line he doesn't have, a dog png messing up the lyrics of Calvin Harris' song Summer, tiny Goku, and one yellow box
And also like fifty arrows
grand perch
true, there should be a face on the right looking at the viewer, makes the algorithm tingle with excitement
austere mica
4 red circles, Scab Bruiser saying a line he doesn't have, a dog png messing up ...
I’ll have you know that Goku is my proud contribution to this example of absolute peak
faint beacon
4 red circles, Scab Bruiser saying a line he doesn't have, a dog png messing up ...
I told him to add goku
that was incredibly important
austere mica
An extremely high priority
proven cargo
There’s orange lighting in the background, you could’ve hidden him there 😭
faint beacon
I was begging him to hide it in the most obscure spot so you'd barely see it unless you actively looked
tired monolith
What has been everyone's experience achieving the "Make Every Shot Count" penance? What was easiest for you guys?
inland orchid
Shotguns do well since only one pellet needs to land for it to count as a landed shot, I got mine with the combat shotgun
Introduced a majority of shooters to my gun’s barrel and meleed the rest of the way
Enjoyable but not getting a vet with survivalist aura in pub matchmaking can be up to fate alone
versed mesa
i took a revolver and remove survivalist out of the talent. And shoot up close just to make sure i don't miss.
severe jolt
All shotguns should be like the Kickback. Because let's face it, a shotgun is NOT the short range weapon that most video games make them out to be. More betterer at short range, sure, but there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to kill something 50 meters away from you. Hell, that's half the reason people even use shotguns, the fact that at least some of the pellets will hit the target at a long range.
gritty mural
use revolver or plasma gun, I haven't heard of anyone being able to do this with a shotgun recently in the past year or two
shotguns accuracy seems to be calculated differently unless I'm told otherwise
uncut pebble
Shotgun's "accuracy" for the penance only matters if one single pellet hits an enemy.
As long as one hits any enemy, the shot counts as a hit.
Except bulwark shields, those don't count last I checked.
crimson pebble
All shotguns should be like the Kickback. Because let's face it, a shotgun is NO...
i mean if you want to get technical half the enemies in game are wearing flak or carapace which would completely nullify most shotguns
gritty mural
have you completed it recently? because I've had a bunch of veteran friends go through this awful penance and the shotgun hasn't worked for either of them until they used a revolver/plasma
uncut pebble
i mean if you want to get technical half the enemies in game are wearing flak or...
Ever heard of flechettes?
crimson pebble
still suck at going through solid metal
uncut pebble
Modern body armor is made with either steel plates or ceramic plates.
Buckshot can and will pierce.
Flechettes are designed to pierce.
You think 40k doesn't have some souped up flechette ammo for the purpose of punching through carapace?
I'd actually imagine they don't even use normal buckshot anymore, considering the Imperium's standard enemies are heavily armored/thick skinned.
severe jolt
i mean if you want to get technical half the enemies in game are wearing flak or...
and snipers, the enemies you actually need to hit at range, are wearing nothing at all
crimson pebble
Flechettes are *designed* to pierce.
the only thing theyd pierce even today is soft kevlar
uncut pebble
Anywho, shotguns don't need to be some monstrous sort of weapon that works at every range, but they definitely need a buff.
uncut pebble
the only thing theyd pierce even today is soft kevlar
12g buckshot deforms IIIa body armor.
Flechettes have superior penetration and velocity compared to buckshot.
crimson pebble
show me any footage or evidence of a flechette doing anything other the scuffing a hard plate
loud belfry
flechettes in EFT were so strong at some point
uncut pebble
For reference, IIIa is rated for handgun calibers.
severe jolt
They don't need to be super effective at every range, but they need to do something. The Kickback is a perfect example of how the shotguns should work.
uncut pebble
III is rated for intermediate cartridges.
I would be willing to put money on flechettes piercing class III armor at the right range.
uncut pebble
They don't need to be super effective at every range, but they need to do someth...
No it isn't but go off.
I dont remember the guy's name but I can hear his cigarette smoker tone, "Shotguns, at the right range, with the right load, will physically remove a chunk of shit from your opponent and throw that shit on the floor."
crimson pebble
For reference, IIIa is rated for handgun calibers.
still soft armor which id wager is leagues lower then what the heretics flak plates are even if theyre just basic steel and not super space heat harden mega plasteel or something
severe jolt
No it isn't but go off.
It's bad game design if there's a whole class of weapons that most players don't ever want to use, and isn't like that for any practical or lore reason. Not to mention we're getting a new class whose whole thing is using shotguns. They need a rework badly.
crimson pebble
id say double barrels fine as is but combat stinks
calm shard
I would be willing to put money on flechettes piercing class III armor at the ri...
In Tarkov they go through GOST level III which is roughly equivalent to level III NIJ but Tarkov is also a videogame so
loud belfry
id trust tarkov with my LIFE
severe jolt
maybe we should wait until americans are awake and ask them, at least one of them is guaranteed to have tested whether their shotguns can pierce body armor
crimson pebble
i am this person their is not a chance in hell any conventional shells outside of very custome made slugs are piercing a hard plate some still struggle on kevlar grnated you get hit w the kevlar you might still be alive but your whole shit will be fucked up
tired monolith
use revolver or plasma gun, I haven't heard of anyone being able to do this with...
got it first try
with zarona revolver
gritty mural
nice, I honestly wouldn't recommend shotgun because the game falls apart from time to time so it most likely won't work. The people I knew that did try even wrote down everytime they hit something and it didn't even give them the penance after getting every shot
crimson pebble
with zarona revolver
what i used for it aswell think it took me two tho
tired monolith
I just need Adept Assassin, Armorbane, Unseen Predator and Killshot Ready penances then I am Certified Veteran
crimson pebble
then comes the other classes 
tired monolith
then comes the other classes <:2yos:694588506072285196>
Jokes on you, Veteran is the last class I have to do
severe jolt
i am this person their is not a chance in hell any conventional shells outside o...
See, that's another thing I like about this game, even if the enemy is heavily armored, they still fall on their asses if they get hit by a powerful enough attack. In most games it seems there's no game mechanic like that, just HP.
crimson pebble
the ogryn bullrush one had me geeked for a while
tired monolith
the ogryn bullrush one had me geeked for a while
It was a bit interesting
But once I finish vet I only have a few other random penances and havoc then I am 100% done
crimson pebble
im in the final stretch of like my last 4 penances like 10 more vent purge missions, 30 more pox ,25 mortis then like 30k more killto finish out a million
grand perch
speaking about shotguns, i keep having fun moments with marksmans focus shotgun
it does stupid boss damage
also this burster mustve been clutching a krak grenade cause that had 0 aoe radius
severe jolt
Does marksman's focus proc if any of the pellets hit a weakspot?
grand perch
with minimum pellet count i'd assume if one pellet hits, its going to calculate damage based on the minimum pellet count hitting a weakspot
severe jolt
does it proc the stacks or movement penalty reductions?
honestly never even considered taking MF with shotgun
I have so many questions
maybe oughta play a few aurics with a build like that
grand perch
if any pellet hits weakspot it procs MMF, though with shotguns and hitreg being a bit jank ive opted to use camo to force mmf stacks when necessary
works best with agrip shotgun, has the best finesse modifier. especially with slugs
tepid otter
Huh, that's actually pretty sick
Found a similar build but it was using the Helbourne Lasgun, so I might try out the shotty now too
tall torrent
does it proc the stacks or movement penalty reductions?
honestly never even con...
stacks are only gained on weakspot kill, or with camouflage, over time when crouch moving/stationary
tall torrent
works best with agrip shotgun, has the best finesse modifier. especially with sl...
best case is zarona shotgun
zarona has higher min pellet count vs unyielding than its real pellet count
quite funny
grand perch
if we're limiting to boss damage yes
i meant generally, zarona seems to have worse finesse modifier?
havent tasted that one yet tho
severe jolt
stacks are only gained on weakspot kill, or with camouflage, over time when crou...
yes I know that, jeez louise, don't tell your daddy how to fuck
all I was asking was whether it counts as a weakspot kill if only some pellets hit the weakspot
tall torrent
yes I know that, jeez louise, don't tell your daddy how to fuck
all I was asking...
if u hit >0 pellet on weakspot, game considers min pellet count equivalent dmg with weakspot hit
I think
grand perch
shotguns frankly are always a mess to figure out the mechanics
severe jolt
this is my favorite build right now not gonna ngl lie
won't even bother including a melee weapon because anything works since the laspistol can kill everything and never run out of ammo
it's ridiculous, being able to kill even crushers no problem, with just a pistol
pseudo fiber
Yup
severe jolt
you can buy 500 rated weapons in the melk shop if you haven't gotten the mastery yet
steep flower
speaking about shotguns, i keep having fun moments with marksmans focus shotgun
I like the fact i stirred the shotgun convo in this chat 
give them some love through this
steep flower
speaking about shotguns, i keep having fun moments with marksmans focus shotgun
Mah man uses tac reload; mah man knows 
steep flower
you can buy 500 rated weapons in the melk shop if you haven't gotten the mastery...
Best is to buy a grey weapon & upgrade it to green, then sacrifice to increase mastery rather than buying from melk; rarely you get godrolls - milk coins are for curio buying primarily
sudden cedar
Shotguns are awesome weapons. Good on you for making them work.
severe jolt
Best is to buy a grey weapon & upgrade it to green, then sacrifice to increase m...
Well I've said it once and I'll say it again - don't tell your dad how to fuck.
Melk shop is useful if you're underleveled, after that, not much at all.
steep flower
Well I've said it once and I'll say it again - don't tell your dad how to fuck.
...
I mean if momma not happy then ye maybe have to teach an old dog new tricks 
sudden cedar
steep flower
<:wtfgryn:1099688205420347412>
sudden cedar
@steep flower Even if you vacuum'ed the entire map for ammunition.
if it works, it works.
steep flower
<@341264830273028099> Even if you vacuum'ed the entire map for ammunition.
I like to eat good & scavenge well
tepid otter
Is Pinning Fire and Puncture a good blessing on Boltgun or are there better picks
Still a lil confused about a weapons rating also. Wat does it actually do
steep flower
Is Pinning Fire and Puncture a good blessing on Boltgun or are there better pick...
Both are great, punc is goated
steep flower
Still a lil confused about a weapons rating also. Wat does it actually do
Its associated with its stats
severe jolt
Puncture and whatever it is that applies brittleness, that works well
steep flower
Puncture and whatever it is that applies brittleness, that works well
Shattering Impact
brazen mural
What melee weapons are decent or better on the Veteran? Combat Blade, DS and PS are "obvious" picks, but what else works?
steep flower
What melee weapons are decent or better on the Veteran? Combat Blade, DS and PS ...
Combat axe for example if you wanna go melee the horde with an ogryn
tall torrent
Is Pinning Fire and Puncture a good blessing on Boltgun or are there better pick...
it's good
brazen mural
Combat axe for example if you wanna go melee the horde with an ogryn
I also like running Devils Claw, not a big fan of the Heavy sword.
Combat axe is fun!
steep flower
What melee weapons are decent or better on the Veteran? Combat Blade, DS and PS ...
But honestly there are other nice defensive melee options for range heavy class that is vet; experiment around
steep flower
I also like running Devils Claw, not a big fan of the Heavy sword.
Combat axe ...
Heavy sword is more offense while dev claw has some defensive to it due to parry
brazen mural
Haha, I always build my vet to be good in melee. I just love the frags and VoC for teamplay
Merc was my fav in VT2, so shout abilities is my jam
tall torrent
What melee weapons are decent or better on the Veteran? Combat Blade, DS and PS ...
combat axe III
power sword VI
combat blade VI
duelling sword (any)
severe jolt
Merc was my fav in VT2, so shout abilities is my jam
shout abilities are the king and key
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LET ME KILL YOU
wind prism
whats the purpose of using charge shots on the plasmagun rather than spamming light shots?
wind prism
right 😭
vivid silo
You can penetrate a bit deeper cover with charged shots
vivid silo
You can use a charged shot when you are below 3 ammo left in magazine for "free"
steep flower
whats the purpose of using charge shots on the plasmagun rather than spamming li...
Bigger dmg number
wind prism
aight thanks
also does exploding the plasgun instantly downs you? or js deals dmg to yourself
tame lodge
Insta down
vivid silo
If you are using Volley Fire, especially in combination with Blaze Away, to get a big finisher off to kill a target (rarely needed)
Doh, Executioners Stance
steep flower
Is there any good builds using Infiltration
Its not the build you should ask about is more so how & when you should be using infiltrate
steep flower
aight thanks
also does exploding the plasgun instantly downs you? or js deals dm...
You go down just like psyker would overload on peril
wind prism
You go down just like psyker would overload on peril
👍
tepid otter
Its not the build you should ask about is more so how & when you should be using...
Its just that i saw someone carry me and 2 others the whole and he had that on
steep flower
Its just that i saw someone carry me and 2 others the whole and he had that on
Cause infiltrate has very good safe the game potential & the best objective completion potential
unreal nova
But honestly there are other nice defensive melee options for range heavy class ...
WDYM range heavy. 
steep flower
WDYM range heavy. <:Eula_Stare:825800593591238656>
That means you spend more time shooting than swinging a kitchen knife outside the kitchen you woman
Jk btw but my point on range usage stands firm
unreal nova
That means you spend more time shooting than swinging a kitchen knife outside th...
I see you want kraks to the face.
Also, still. WDYM range heavy. Stares at 'nades and pointy stabby thing.
steep flower
Also, still. WDYM range heavy. *Stares at 'nades and pointy stabby thing.*
You use your gun more
Than you use your melee
There ya go
unreal nova
I stab 10 things then shoot once or twice.
steep flower
The only build that is more melee heavy is one using WS
steep flower
I stab 10 things then shoot once or twice.
Thats WS
unreal nova
The only build that is more melee heavy is one using WS
Still! 
steep flower
Still! <:lmhurmph:603860277359804416>
Go cut me some onions so you will have another reason to cry about it (pls krak me)
unreal nova
Go cut me some onions so you will have another reason to cry about it <:KEKW_ogr...
You mean trade 6-9 kraks for a beeg box of boomies to huck at you.
snow cypress
Hi guys,I'm trying the weapons and I see no point on using the shovel
What is it good at?
tame lodge
Nothing
snow cypress
makes sense
tame lodge
(stagger-ish)
It's a safe weapon
Can keep hordes staggered
Can Special PA a Rager to death
vivid silo
It's very handy for those times where you need to take a quick dump during a mission
Can't have turds lying around on the floor all over the place, that's a work hazard!
snow cypress
ohhhhhh
vivid silo
Also, it has a very satisfying bonk sound
tame lodge
Don't fall for the bonk trap
sudden cedar
A shovel is an amazing tool for digging trenches.
snow cypress
I mean that bonk sound is so good
tame lodge
But the weapon itself.....
At least it doesn't make me feel like playing a better weapon
(unlike taxes)
grand perch
taxe libel, in my vet chat?
tame lodge
Surprised?
sudden cedar
Taxes? Really? In front of my Veteran Chat?
tame lodge
grand perch
surprised how one cant see the superiority of tac axe by now!
sudden cedar
Relic Blade is more to my liking.
sudden cedar
Tac Axe is amazing for my Chorus Zealot.
last marten
psyker tax 🙏😌
heavy rover
Please, we all know shovel is true superiority
brazen mural
What MK for shovel? And what blessings do people typically run?
brazen mural
thanks
gentle pivot
I just got this from Melk. Stamina curios under 410 are actually +2 stamina, right? this description is bugged?
heavy rover
Yeah, 410 stamina is the true +3 stamina, unfortunately
gentle pivot
thanks for confirming. i got excited for a second
unreal nova
Tac Axe is amazing for my Chorus Zealot.
Can't run fast though.
sudden cedar
With a Tac Axe? Sure.
unreal nova
With a Tac Axe? Sure.
Knoife yes.
sudden cedar
You do you.
stoic thorn
surprised how one cant see the superiority of tac axe by now!
tac axe
(t)ac (ax)e
Nice try fed.
tall torrent
What is it good at?
gaslighting
tame lodge
Oh hey path
I know you love Psykers
Did you know that Biomancer staff can accidentally revive teammates in RT
tall torrent
Did you know that Biomancer staff can accidentally revive teammates in RT
I did smth mildly funny
alacrity op
sudden cedar
Compensation for Idira accidentally un-aliving your team
tall torrent
+1 agility for every shot fired during this turn
I built for the heavy armor that makes heavy weapon atk cost -1 AP
plus arch militant's heavy gunner talent
so now my burst heavy bolter atk costs only 1 AP
I like forge world origin
it covers skill checks much better than the other origins
BS + AGI + INT spec
tame lodge
Huh, no wonder Grand Strategist Idira sucked on my first playthrough
stoic thorn
@surreal oak
tall torrent
Pasqal is ultimately pretty mid unfortunately
His atk economy is not good enough for dps
stoic thorn
The snipers long las is DIFFERENT
tame lodge
Yeah I know that part
tall torrent
And he has low perception so he kinda gets gimped later on
tall torrent
U need high perception for his talents to scale well
tall torrent
Plasma and Melta are very hit or miss
I’m on a weird custom diff rn
Every slider is turned to the max on the right
sudden cedar
Just wait until Unfair
tame lodge
So I went back to daring, achievement hunting rn
sudden cedar
It is in the difficulty title
sudden cedar
Tsk.
steep flower
What MK for shovel? And what blessings do people typically run?
Try 3; good at managing a horde and safer than 7
tame lodge
*It is in the difficulty title*
TBF that's basically the only way the game can beat you
Being cheesy
Applying 55 stacks of toxin on a 44 HP character turn 1 frame 1
sudden cedar
If the game is cheesing, i'll cheese as well. I mean not really. It is a legitimate build.
tall torrent
the custom diff I'm on rn
sudden cedar
It is called Unfair. The game is out to get you.
sudden cedar
Hold on..
Number of Rounds for Wounds, Injuries and Traumata.. shouldn't that be 0?
tame lodge
My RT with 300% dodge 150+ WS, 200 WP
sudden cedar
I know, you set it to Maximum, but to make it more difficult, it should be Minimum.
tall torrent
I know, you set it to Maximum, but to make it more difficult, it should be Minim...
Ik
I just decided I don’t want to engage with injuries as a concept
sudden cedar
@tame lodge And still, SOMEONE or SOMETHING is going to hit you.
tame lodge
When the 97% hit roll misses
tall torrent
+50% npc characteristic is already hard enough
sudden cedar
How about turning injuries and traumata into your strength?
tame lodge
tall torrent
+50% npc characteristic is already hard enough
It’s quite literally like
tame lodge
How about turning injuries and traumata into your strength?
Bro thinks he's death world
tall torrent
If I don’t use concentrated fire
Area attack won’t hit anything
Argenta flamer hit 5 guys
5 dodges
tame lodge
"simply walk out of it"
sudden cedar
Death World Pyromancer Blade Dancer Psyker.
unreal nova
gaslighting
That's psyker mains.
tall torrent
How about turning injuries and traumata into your strength?
I don’t have deathworld character
sudden cedar
Well, go ahead and have fun. I won't judge.
tall torrent
I have forge world crime lord soldier AM
sudden cedar
Ah yes, my favourite.
tame lodge
I'm going void Shadows on this playthrough
Who greenlit Kibellah
tall torrent
I'm going void Shadows on this playthrough
Who greenlit Kibellah
Kibellah is super strong
But
sudden cedar
Although Forge World Crime Lord Operative for me.
sudden cedar
Kibellah is a powerhouse, but the Blade Dancer can be made better on the RT
tall torrent
Forge world is by far the best for passing checks
tame lodge
It was supposed to be a dodge focused playthrough
sudden cedar
Calculated Relations.
sudden cedar
Or alternatively, you pick up Jae and let her charm everyone and everything, including machines.
tall torrent
Jae is super underrated
Cassia + Jae + DPS seems like by far the strongest setup for majority encounters
U don’t need anyone else
Pasqal exists solely for tech use checks
sudden cedar
This is not meant as boasting, but the Unfair character i have, the build is so busted that i resorted to sometimes only running the RT and Jae because i will still win.
With high enough Charisma, Jae can do tech-checks just as well as Paqual.
tall torrent
Yea u can kit her purely for stats
tame lodge
Jae is super underrated
Real
sudden cedar
And she'll still work.
tall torrent
I have her kit for combat tho so fellowship is a bit lower
tame lodge
Simply Speech check everything
tall torrent
Only 100 out of combat
sudden cedar
Whats the second tier archetype called again?
tall torrent
Jae best is master tactician
sudden cedar
Yes, that one.
tall torrent
Grand strategist goes to cassia / pasqal usually
sudden cedar
Jae as Master Tactician is just buffing the RT and the RT is just deleting everything while being injured and traumatized to all hel.
And does not care at all.
tall torrent
Master tactician Jae is a better support than cassia but cassia does dps better than Jae
Navigator talents op
sudden cedar
I don't even bother using Cassia. Unpopular opinion, i know.
tall torrent
Cassia gameplan is super simple
tame lodge
I benched her a lot on my first playthrough
tall torrent
U kind of have to bench her for fights to be challenging
sudden cedar
That's the point.
tame lodge
Then fell in love with Displacement Cassia
tall torrent
I’m not sure if full dogmatic or full iconoclast is better late game tbh
Iconoclast IV’s ability is super strong
but dogmatic has this
And eye of joyeuse if ur a psyker
Eye of joyeuse + psy focus + hand of offense
crisp oak
Cassia + Jae + DPS seems like by far the strongest setup for majority encounters
Exevutioner heroic act spam?
tall torrent
Exevutioner heroic act spam?
I can’t quite decide if AM or executioner is more busted in damage
crisp oak
I can’t quite decide if AM or executioner is more busted in damage
Executioner is better in bulk
When dots start hitting for 1000
tall torrent
Executioner clears groups better for sure
tame lodge
One of the iconoclast armor allows you to be immune to CRIT, as long as none of your team went prone
Weird condition but strong
crisp oak
Archmilitant can miss
tall torrent
There’s 1 melee late game that’s super funny
crisp oak
Executioner dot spam cannot
tall torrent
Smiter pickaxe
crisp oak
Smiter pickaxe
That one is nice too
slow spade
For my team Iconoclast was best as you can chain Ults with Iconoclast + Inquisitor Signet
tall torrent
One hand melee is prob either triumph of faith or smiter
slow spade
2 turns on first turn is 🤔
crisp oak
One hand melee is prob either triumph of faith or smiter
Or if defensive auto power sword
crisp oak
There is also uralons wep
And the carnage chainaxe
If psyker force swords are the best
tame lodge
The Distortion, my goat
slow spade
What about 3 turns
Warp Speed Hendrix or funny Idira sniper
Starved for choice 😔
torn gorge
for exe you just pick drukhari blades anyway
crisp oak
for exe you just pick drukhari blades anyway
Not if psyker
Then you use the warpfire one
slow spade
Executioner could probably use a rock to kill a space marine
torn gorge
tame lodge
Also Santic Sword
tall torrent
There’s a late game build for Abelard that goes kind of hard
crisp oak
Is it the malpian build?
tall torrent
It’s prob not the best but it’s very funny
torn gorge
riposte tank?
tall torrent
Malpian is used but that’s not all
U need war world Tempestus origin armor
Scales deflection based on carouse
Then helbrute trophy
crisp oak
Oh yeah I love that one
tall torrent
Reduce deflection and armor to turbocharge damage
crisp oak
Currently using power armor though
slow spade
U need war world Tempestus origin armor
Oh I saw that build, I get like 50+ deflection and 200+ armor
Bullshit levels of defenses lol
crisp oak
I also play on normal like a scrub
tall torrent
Oh I saw that build, I get like 50+ deflection and 200+ armor
I didn’t built him for toughness
crisp oak
Oh I saw that build, I get like 50+ deflection and 200+ armor
Now imagine it on forge world mc
tame lodge
I might be addicted to burst weapons
crisp oak
With subskin
slow spade
I didn’t built him for toughness
Ah I did for defense memes
tall torrent
Helbrute Trophy Argenta with a heavy bolter
Argenta’s issue is u have to build her into fury path to get the best item for her
There’re 2 versions of the one star power armor
tall torrent
Also why not solomons?
Cuz by the time u get it u barely fight criminal enemies
The passive it has is almost redundant
uncut pebble
Abelard facetanked a Reaper Autocannon
Abelard be like "Lord Captain, I'm going to go fistfight a dreadnought now."
crisp oak
Cuz by the time u get it u barely fight criminal enemies
But it looks cooler
uncut pebble
And he just... gets away with it.
tall torrent
Eh ig
slow spade
Yeah it's hilarious
torn gorge
20 more days for both dlcs 
crisp oak
Then again Im also using a witch staff
tall torrent
It’s a shame I’m going on 2week vacation right after dlc drops
crisp oak
Which is definitely not the optimal weapon
slow spade
Enemies will have like 120% armor pen on Unfair and Abelard still takes 0 damage
Only psykers scare Abelard :c
tall torrent
Malpian shroud is rly good for Abelard and Kibellah
And executioner in general
Busted item
slow spade
Malpian shroud is rly good for Abelard and Kibellah
Probably one of the most busted melee items if the user is dogmatic
uncut pebble
Only psykers scare Abelard :c
Shrimply oneshot psykers with your own psyker.
tall torrent
Probably one of the most busted melee items if the user is dogmatic
It has no dogmatic requirement
crisp oak
Probably one of the most busted melee items if the user is dogmatic
Combine with joyeuse
Malpian is iconoclast
uncut pebble
(molten beam on a correct build crits every time, can be cast twice, and does upwards of 1k damage per cast)
slow spade
Shrimply oneshot psykers with your own psyker.
True, was thinking of the fucking "last fight" for the Death Cult
crisp oak
True, was thinking of the fucking "last fight" for the Death Cult
I.... one turned him
tall torrent
True, was thinking of the fucking "last fight" for the Death Cult
I bursted him 6 times with heavy bolter in one turn and he gave up
uncut pebble
Just use toybox and disable requirements for your alignment.
slow spade
Yeah I gave him a turn just to see if did anything
uncut pebble
Edge of Concurrence on an iconoclast psyker funny.
slow spade
After that Operator 1-tap
tame lodge
There’re 2 versions of the one star power armor
crisp oak
Cassia mega buff mc->mc does emperors resolve and hammer->uses iconoclast skill to give cassia heroic act for free->cassia gives mc heroic act->mc full buff and go kill
tall torrent
<:loregryn:1036580674741731379>
left is fury path
right is order path (her best ending)
which means if u want best argenta build u kinda have to forego her best ending
sucks
torn gorge
what is her fury path? 
crisp oak
Full mag dump bolter
tall torrent
what is her fury path? <:PES_Think:639363477458255874>
go on sacred purge or smth
slow spade
War Hymn is kind of eh sadly
tame lodge
Real
tall torrent
basically become dumb dogmatic person
order (AKA fire) path has her become a good person and help people in need
full dogmatic for RT seems like the strongest tho
torn gorge
|| the finale is still on the ship in the dark meditating before getting the armour in both paths? ||
tame lodge
There's one ending where she becomes a repentia
torn gorge
does she forego ranged and go full melee then?
tall torrent
|| the finale is still on the ship in the dark meditating before getting the arm...
||Driven quest
If humility, she gets shadow of death ability, and she’ll die in ending
If fire, she gets one star armor (right in image) and gets best ending
If fury, she gets best one star armor (left in image) and becomes crazy zealous and dogmatic||
crisp oak
||Repentia is the worst option||
torn gorge
ye i think i randomly went for fire
which would make sense considering the iconoclast playthrough
tall torrent
Bringing your rof to 14
Rookie numbers compared to heavy bolter
crisp oak
Rookie numbers compared to heavy bolter
I mean yeah
tame lodge
https://roguetrader.wiki.fextralife.com/Hymn+of+Vehemence
Unfortunately mogged by Improved Heavy Bolter
crisp oak
But its funny reloading after every shot
slow spade
Rogue Trader is fun :c
crisp oak
And tbh most of my chars do nothing as of now
tall torrent
got bored of darktide path?
Nah
frank basin
Rogue Trader is fun :c
if is co-op like baldur gate, i would
crisp oak
Ulfar hasnt gone in a chapter
slow spade
if is co-op like baldur gate, i would
It is
tall torrent
And tbh most of my chars do nothing as of now
I bench everyone and just have cassia + RT fight
crisp oak
No idea how to build ulfar btw
tall torrent
2 person party
tall torrent
Toybox party dialogue turned on
slow spade
Ulfar is flamer build only basically
crisp oak
But Im xenofugger so yrliet comes
slow spade
Melee is dogshit
tall torrent
Yrliet exists for 1 thing and it’s AP bullet
tame lodge
Me wishing my PC could handle RT so I could have the more party slots mod
crisp oak
As pasqal
slow spade
She also can crit for 10k
Sadly you can't do that anymore without insane stacking
torn gorge
ye i had that on my sniper op RT
click once, then let heavy bolter do heavy bolter things
crisp oak
Sadly you can't do that anymore without insane stacking
Ngl she hasnt gone since chapter 3
Charge boots are soo funny
slow spade
Sadly they fixed Lethality scaling and nerfed the fuck out of Tactical Awareness on Operator
tall torrent
yrliet issue is eldar snipers are not as good as imperium snipers late game
slow spade
So Sniper 1-shot builds are very sad but still good
crisp oak
I mean the highest damage you need to do is like 48k
tall torrent
pinnacle of aeldari engineering is NOTHING compared to this
torn gorge
theres the funny burst weapon build as well
crisp oak
Assuming bliated hp
slow spade
I mean the highest damage you need to do is like 48k
And you can't get there on first round anymore :c
torn gorge
the assassin
crisp oak
And melee assasin
slow spade
pinnacle of aeldari engineering is NOTHING compared to this
It's funny how often overpen happens in RT
I always wrote it off, but it happens a lot (sometimes it's my friend's melee char getting domed)
tame lodge
Piercing Shot Heavy Bolter accidentally killing a boss due to overpen
(I was aiming at a basic warrior)
slow spade
Thankfully the game tells you when overpen happens but not the chance to hit :c
slow spade
Romance is so fucky in RT, I don't even know how much my companions like me
tall torrent
Still not sure if my yrliet romance is bugged
Yrliet romance is fucked
crisp oak
My cassia romance was broken because flags werent incrementing
slow spade
I just hope they don't stab me in the back
crisp oak
So she ||became tisiphone||
tall torrent
I rly don’t like how u cannot be nice to her and not do her romance
tall torrent
U can’t even friendzone the eldar it’s crazy
crisp oak
I rly don’t like how u cannot be nice to her and not do her romance
I mean you can be nice
My first playthrough was chill with her, no romance at all
slow spade
Jae when not quest
Yeah...
crisp oak
Was doing dish wife
slow spade
At least Jae gives a really good rifle for Act 2
crisp oak
Jae and kibbys romance were harder to avoid
slow spade
Yippie c:
tame lodge
Just be a woman
Surely Yrliet don't swing that way
tall torrent
Jae and kibbys romance were harder to avoid
Nah Jae is super easy to avoid
Don’t ask her if she has someone she likes
crisp oak
Just be a woman
Surely Yrliet don't swing that way
I mean there is no swinging either way
torn gorge
crisp oak
Don’t get horny during her party
If you drink too much you get sent to horny jail anyways
tame lodge
Real
tall torrent
No u actually go back just fine
tall torrent
Yes you’re in the same bed but u didn’t do the deed, u just crashed from hangover
So no romance there
crisp oak
Yes you’re in the same bed but u didn’t do the deed, u just crashed from hangove...
Oh maybe I misunderstood then
uncut pebble
Nah Jae is super easy to avoid
I recruit Jae only to take her stuff and then ignore her for the rest of the game, easiest avoidable companion by far.
crisp oak
My next playthrough as the law will be romancing kibbie
He will be dual wielding shotguns
Reminds me do shotguns get int scaling?
crisp oak
Tbh yeah heinrix is chill
slow spade
Reminds me do shotguns get int scaling?
Not directly, but some of the best buffs for shotgun scale off int
crisp oak
Its funny when he says we jave to judge yrliet
tall torrent
Heinrix in act 3 is pretty funny
uncut pebble
Build Heinrix as an assassin and he becomes a melee monstrosity.
crisp oak
Not directly, but some of the best buffs for shotgun scale off int
Int effects aoe damage dont it
tame lodge
Reminds me do shotguns get int scaling?
It's Area Attack no? So you could go demolition scaling on Soldier
Which scales with agility
crisp oak
Yeah first time Im actually going to take that skill
slow spade
Heinrix in act 3 is pretty funny
"A warp portal in the heart of the enemy fortress? I thought nothing here could make me smile" -Hendrix
Funny man in Act 3 c:
crisp oak
Not sure if I go arch militant or bounty hunter
tall torrent
Reminds me do shotguns get int scaling?
INT normally scales area damage
However if you’re soldier, u can get demo engineer and have demo scale area damage instead which also scales from AGI
tame lodge
slow spade
Int effects aoe damage dont it
Yes but they specifically removed gun based AOE to avoid insane scaling
tame lodge
Double Barrel shotgun
tall torrent
Shotguns fall off so hard when enemy characteristics are tuned up
tame lodge
Any Foehammer
slow spade
Not sure which shotgun the other one will be
Use a melta for more ammo
tall torrent
Hit chance is horrendous
slow spade
Meltas are just shotgun mk.2
tame lodge
Shotguns fall off so hard when enemy characteristics are tuned up
"simply walk out of it"
crisp oak
Use a melta for more ammo
But you can one hand shotguns
slow spade
But you can one hand shotguns
Melta pistols exist
tall torrent
"simply walk out of it"
These mfs rly just walk out of shotgun blasts
slow spade
Thought shotguns cant miss
They can be dodged
tall torrent
Thought shotguns cant miss
If u have NPC characteristics turned up they’ll be dodging ur shots crazy well
slow spade
You need Operator levels of accuracy to use a shotgun
slow spade
Enemies will have like 180% dodge on Unfair
crisp oak
If I max out agility
tall torrent
The governor on Janus was able to dodge out of a heavy boltgun burst
slow spade
Ive seen enemies dodge and still get hit
Half damage so it's still shit
crisp oak
Does guarunteed crits feom confident approach count as 100% cc?
slow spade
They ONLY take damage during dodge if they cannot dodge out of the shot
tall torrent
Does guarunteed crits feom confident approach count as 100% cc?
Not sure
crisp oak
Or nah
tall torrent
But frankly
crisp oak
Because then you can combo with the crit cha ce to dodge reduction
tall torrent
I don’t care about it too much
tall torrent
Because then you can combo with the crit cha ce to dodge reduction
Nah if it was 100% crit chance then the best scaling is vital points
slow spade
Arch-militant stances are pretty eh imo
crisp oak
Nah if it was 100% crit chance then the best scaling is vital points
Isnt that the exemplar skill?
tall torrent
Isnt that the exemplar skill?
Yea
Dodge reduction from crit chance is not that crazy
crisp oak
I mean por que no los dos
tall torrent
But vital points goes insanely hard with high crit chance
crisp oak
You probably need both
slow spade
Degraded Defenses is probably the most op exemplar skill
crisp oak
Other option I can do is run officer master tactician with double barrel shield
tall torrent
Degraded Defenses is probably the most op exemplar skill
100%
crisp oak
And solomons
slow spade
We banned it
crisp oak
Peak condition is pretty good too
tall torrent
I kind of like flesh wounds even though it’s not very good
slow spade
Peak condition is pretty good too
Yeah a lot of the exemplar skills are just very solid picks
slow spade
Degraded Defenses is just straight up cheating
tall torrent
I use flesh wounds exclusively for integrity
slow spade
"-95% damage taken" -> still killed
slow spade
I like to use Know It All for the minor stats buffs just because it fits my char so well lol
Forge World RT with Int maxed? Oh yeah he's a fucking nerd
crisp oak
Though then again maybe shields will suck
crisp oak
Forge World RT with Int maxed? Oh yeah he's a fucking nerd
Forge world with toughness maxed
Gigachad
Like 40% armor
slow spade
Forge world with toughness maxed
I considered making a really tanky arch militant forgeworld char for funnies
crisp oak
Issue is the agility one is better
slow spade
Probably should
slow spade
Yeah the lack of accuracy hurts a ton
slow spade
Dodge Reduction my beloved
tall torrent
Issue is the agility one is better
BS + AGI + INT spec is real
crisp oak
BS + AGI + INT spec is real
Its so good
tall torrent
u just need to take characteristic training INT early
otherwise u can't level INT during soldier
crisp oak
I mean bs is less helpful after 65 right
crisp oak
Especially with broad expertise
slow spade
Some good items also scale off of Ballistic Skill too
crisp oak
True
I run a janky af build for my tanky arch militant
The gloves that let you parry, enforcer boots no idea if they work tbh
slow spade
Was going to go for a lasgun + melta gun combo for maximum shooty
crisp oak
The -1ap reloads
uncut pebble
The parry gloves are quite good considering Argenta can't use a melee weapon for shit.
slow spade
And just ram a lasgun down people's throat to increase accuracy
crisp oak
The parry gloves are quite good considering Argenta can't use a melee weapon for...
I wondee if one ca counter with a parry
Assuming they have the boots
tall torrent
The parry gloves are quite good considering Argenta can't use a melee weapon for...
just give her a shotgun and call it a day
crisp oak
Or can shotguns not trigger attacks of oppurtunity
slow spade
They don't
slow spade
I killed a daemonette point-blank thanks to it
tall torrent
cuz u can't heroic act spam more than once per turn
slow spade
Yeah :c and there's so much Resolve and Momentum stacking items
uncut pebble
just give her a shotgun and call it a day
Heavy flamer and heavy bolter is the only true way to play Argenta.
tall torrent
Heavy flamer and heavy bolter is the only true way to play Argenta.
I put my RT on heavy bolter and it's been working sorta better
crisp oak
I killed a daemonette point-blank thanks to it
So they cannot trigger attacks off the parry, big sadge
tall torrent
the heavy armor that reduces heavy weapon atk AP by 1
crisp oak
It would be soo funny
slow spade
So they cannot trigger attacks off the parry, big sadge
The fucking Slaanesh warp encounter where the RT spawns alone made me test it 😭
tall torrent
I can burst so much
which results in absurd alacrity stacks
267% dodge for power armor btw
slow spade
As intended
crisp oak
which results in absurd alacrity stacks
Imagine if you got dont stop shooting
From fortress world
slow spade
Sadly there's an attack cap
tall torrent
Imagine if you got dont stop shooting
my first playthrough was fortress world
slow spade
Iirc it's like 13 attacks per char
tall torrent
now am on forge world I kinda prefer it more
crisp oak
More dakka
crisp oak
now am on forge world I kinda prefer it more
Agi, toughness, or crit?
slow spade
I miss infinite attacks Pasqal
tall torrent
Agi, toughness, or crit?
AGI
crisp oak
So you are shpeed
tall torrent
crit is redundant to me cuz I take confident strike
tall torrent
toughness is redundant to me cuz none of my talents scale toughness
AGI just scales movement better for better shot angles
tall torrent
for skills I spec demo/logic mainly
demo for demo engineer to scale ranged area atk
logic because there's 1 item late game that allows u to use heroic act without using momentum, at any momentum
it's a hard logic check to pass to unlock that talent
slow spade
Lol that funny item
tall torrent
Iirc it's like 13 attacks per char
does soldier's ult bypass it
cuz it scales extra atks from firerate
slow spade
does soldier's ult bypass it
No it's a hard cap
tall torrent
ah shame
slow spade
Yeah you used to have literally infinite attacks before they nerfed Pasqal
crisp oak
Cuz if you run icono then you ca get 3 heroic acts in a row
tall torrent
Or dogmatic
dogmatic seems strongest to me
and tbh
dogmatic is overall best ending to me
slow spade
Which is a theoretical 40 attacks but 13 is the hard cap :c
tall torrent
the imperium needs dogmatic people that are iconoclast enough at the right time
and that's how I spec my character
crisp oak
the imperium needs dogmatic people that are iconoclast enough at the right time
This is true
slow spade
Lvl 4 Iconoclast because more ults UwU
crisp oak
My iconoclast guy is an iconoclast guy who is dogmatic at the right time
Aka exterminatus
slow spade
Also the ability to instantly dome my friends at lvl 5 Iconoclast is actually pretty useful
tall torrent
besides
slow spade
They just had to be melee...
tall torrent
if ur dogmatic V u literally become imperial saint
quite cool
way cooler than being a "good guy"
crisp oak
if ur dogmatic V u literally become imperial saint
The ecclesiarchy disagrees
You seen the ending for dogmatic if you become a ctan
tall torrent
You seen the ending for dogmatic if you become a ctan
that writing part is peak
slow spade
The ecclesiarchy disagrees
Considering they attack you in Act 4, I'm sure the RT will get over it UwU
crisp oak
Considering they attack you in Act 4, I'm sure the RT will get over it UwU
Ecclesiarchy doesn't always attack you
tall torrent
The ecclesiarchy disagrees
I max reputation with drusians they kinda only disagree for legality at this point
crisp oak
I mean yeah I got max all rep
slow spade
Ecclesiarchy doesn't always attack you
Either the Ecclesiarchy raised RT attacks you or the actual Ecclesiarchy attacks you
crisp oak
The navy is gonna attack me
crisp oak
Either the Ecclesiarchy raised RT attacks you or the actual Ecclesiarchy attacks...
Yes, but if you kill the rt then the ecclesiarchy becomes more normal
tall torrent
besides
the 2 strongest items in the game scale dogmatic the best
it is what it is
slow spade
Ask them politely not too
crisp oak
But if max rep, most of the navy defects to you
slow spade
the 2 strongest items in the game scale dogmatic the best
Poor Heretic path
crisp oak
Heretic path has the best force sword
slow spade
Sold their soul for dogshit powers 😭
slow spade
Heretic path has the best force sword
Eh
tall torrent
Poor Heretic path
heretic path is overall worst build
crisp oak
And calligos
slow spade
heretic path is overall worst build
The only thing I liked was Heretic 2 for the AP regen on kills
uncut pebble
the imperium needs dogmatic people that are iconoclast enough at the right time
This but like a lot of dogmatic choices suck.
crisp oak
calligos is horrible
Shhhh
slow spade
Everything else sucked
sudden cedar
You know you can just, hire someone?
crisp oak
This but like a lot of dogmatic choices suck.
Tbh my dogmatic mc was pretty much a dogmatic but not stupid person
uncut pebble
You know you can just, hire someone?
And lose profit factor? Not on your life.
slow spade
You know you can just, hire someone?
Yeah but they only have 1 tier
uncut pebble
Tbh my dogmatic mc was pretty much a dogmatic but not stupid person
Mutually exclusive terms.
slow spade
Items scale better on the companions
tall torrent
This but like a lot of dogmatic choices suck.
early on the dogmatic points are very stingy but by act 4 u can easily become dogmatic V without even trying
crisp oak
Mutually exclusive terms.
Exterminatus makes sense, logical governance on janus
Kiava gamma makes more sense
tall torrent
2 colony projects are enough to get u rly close to dogmatic V
crisp oak
early on the dogmatic points are very stingy but by act 4 u can easily become do...
This
tall torrent
I do dogmatic but still send food to footfall
uncut pebble
I spare the Eldar on Janus because killing them makes Yrliet sad.
crisp oak
I spare the Eldar on Janus because killing them makes Yrliet sad.
I convinced them to act with the humans dogmatically
slow spade
I spare the Eldar on Janus because killing them makes Yrliet sad.
Yrliet makes me sad
I killed them all
uncut pebble
Yrliet is just a sad character in general.
tall torrent
if u side chorda (which, in the long run, is better for the imperium even tho chorda is horrible), u can get like 90 dogmatic points from that 1 quest lol
slow spade
if u side chorda (which, in the long run, is better for the imperium even tho ch...
Lol yeah that threw me for a loop
slow spade
She basically crippled Footfall but somehow it works out? 🤔
uncut pebble
"Muh meditation" ma'am you are part of a dying race please stfu.
crisp oak
High factorum deserves to retire, helmsman deserves some sleep, jocasta can go fuck off
slow spade
Like my main man the high factorum
High Factorum best friend
crisp oak
High Factorum best friend
His dogmatic ending is sad
uncut pebble
Like my main man the high factorum
If you do the early side quest involving the confessions you figure out hes appropriating some funds for orphans which is giga based.
crisp oak
Same with the helmsman
slow spade
He went from "literal who" to "I trust this man with my life" from the Death Cult dlc
crisp oak
If you do the early side quest involving the confessions you figure out hes appr...
Icono ending has him make a group of the orphans take lver his role
primal remnant
crisp oak
Dogmatic has him die in service, and have the last words " your affairs are in order"
slow spade
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1l25gz3/rare_volley_fire_win/
EXPLAI...
Mortis Trial buff that gives Infinite ammo during Executioner Stance + Ranged enemy kills refresh Executioner Stance
tall torrent
She basically crippled Footfall but somehow it works out? 🤔
||ryzza is a heretic and believer of the cult of the final dawn
even if she repents, the stain of chaos won't fully leave her
and if chorda dies, her entire protectorate essentially dies with her, which is more lives lost and more worlds lost than losing footfall
by the end of the game ur own protectorates get big enough to be major trading and transport centers that losing footfall is ultimately not as big of a deal||
uncut pebble
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1l25gz3/rare_volley_fire_win/
EXPLAI...
One of the mortis traits makes you not consume ammo when you crit so vet can get something like 60% crit rate between exe stance and reciprocity.
crisp oak
Helmsman doesnt sleep until he gets hit with a shell
primal remnant
Mortis Trial buff that gives Infinite ammo during Executioner Stance + Ranged en...
Ah ok, its a mortis trait thing
crisp oak
||ryzza is a heretic and believer of the cult of the final dawn
even if she repe...
Best answer is to redeem her
crisp oak
I meant chorda and ryzza
crisp oak
Can't redeem a heretic.
Ryzza just tries tl go legit and dies
After trying to eliminate the taint
uncut pebble
Sucks to suck, maybe don't be a heretic?
tall torrent
Best answer is to redeem her
there's no real redemption to ||someone that already works with chaos||
uncut pebble
^^^
primal remnant
yeah once that door is open, that's it
slow spade
||ryzza is a heretic and believer of the cult of the final dawn
even if she repe...
Yeah I just felt that it was a "hindsight" kind of thing because I 100% thought she fell to chaos when she was eating human brains lol
crisp oak
there's no real redemption to ||someone that already works with chaos||
like heinrix
uncut pebble
It's not something easily rectified, that door will remain forever open.
slow spade
Ah ok, its a mortis trait thing
Yeah, it's actually quite easy to set up just RNG reliant
uncut pebble
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> like heinrix
Heinrix is always at risk of chaos corruption, mf is a psyker.
tall torrent
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> like heinrix
yea if heinrix ||uses chaos cogitator on kiava gamma he's GONE, there's no good ending for him left||
u have to stop him from using chaos cogitator if u want him to not be fked in the end
uncut pebble
Path the game has been out for quite a while I think you can afford to not spoiler things.
crisp oak
u have to stop him from using chaos cogitator if u want him to not be fked in th...
Indeed
slow spade
Path the game has been out for quite a while I think you can afford to not spoil...
Eh people could have jumped in so from the Skull week DLC announcement
void dragon
dear diary, today the emperor blessed me with a perfect roll Dueling sword, it is low level (320) so i figure i could use it a little to see how the fuzz about the weapon feels
i puked, sure is not great at horde clear, but with frag nades, and ogryn and the sheer movility it gives who needs horde clear?
(this think is 35 in finesse and kill crushers as fast as a power sword, who the hay though this needed MORE power?!)
uncut pebble
Anywho do any of yall even like Heinrix as a character or do you just see him as a dps monster?
slow spade
Anywho do any of yall even like Heinrix as a character or do you just see him as...
Dps monster
tall torrent
Anywho do any of yall even like Heinrix as a character or do you just see him as...
both tbh
but
it's rly funny that
slow spade
Heindrix story-wise is alright but I didn't really find interest
uncut pebble
I quite enjoy his dry sense of humor.
tall torrent
DT's rannick is somehow more competent than both calcazar and heinrix at being an inquisitor
slow spade
dear diary, today the emperor blessed me with a perfect roll Dueling sword, it i...
Give it Brutal Momentum pls and a horizontal light kk thx
tall torrent
heinrix crashout in act 3 was so funny
uncut pebble
DT's rannick is somehow more competent than both calcazar and heinrix at being a...
No, not exactly?
Rannick is an armchair leader, Heinrix is a hands on inquisitor.
Those are two entirely separate things, you can't fairly compare them.
slow spade
heinrix crashout in act 3 was so funny
I really liked the part where he goes "I thought nothing here could make me smile. I was wrong" if you plan to drop a Warp portal in Act 3 :p
hollow ibex
honestly doesn't the communion mission kinda depict rannick as a bit incompetent
uncut pebble
I will say you can compare Calcazar to Rannick fairly though.
tall torrent
Rannick is an armchair leader, Heinrix is a hands on inquisitor.
rannick is definitely not an armchair leader given the mortis trials dialogue
uncut pebble
rannick is definitely not an armchair leader given the mortis trials dialogue
I haven't heard all of it, do tell.
Is Rannick like ex wyrmwood or something?
severe jolt
Zola is ex-Wyrmwood, Rannick, we don't know.
tall torrent
I haven't heard all of it, do tell.
||rannick infiltrated zola's hideout and gave her wyrmwood contact, which zola ultimately used to join the warband
rannick also sent morrow to nox alpha for spycraft on smth, BEFORE moebian 6th was turning traitor||
void dragon
its still a sign of respect
uncut pebble
Anywho, didn't know Rannick was even capable of leaving the ship. Seems to me at first glance that he just orders people to do things under pain of death with his authority.
tall torrent
"that's the spirit, do or die!"
"team, violence, now"
crisp oak
||rannick infiltrated zola's hideout and gave her wyrmwood contact, which zola u...
He also was ||explicator rannick||
hollow ibex
void dragon
"strike team, Violence, now
uncut pebble
It's "violence, please" but sure.
hollow ibex
"violence, please, now?"
uncut pebble
There's no "now."
tall torrent
I forgor
uncut pebble
But it's implied. (the other option is dying to heretics)
tall torrent
haven't played dark communion in a while
hollow ibex
But it's implied. (the other option is dying to heretics)
"that's the spirit, do or die!"
idk why that line always cracked me up with how it's delivered
tall torrent
but yea rannick, even though dark communion shows him as kinda not knowing what's going on, he's not incompetent
uncut pebble
"Why didn't I know?"
He absolutely should've.
Meaning it's not him that's incompetent, it's his agents.
tall torrent
it's more possible that he got fed bad intel by atoman lords
margrave called back moebian 6th first (which turned out very bad), then moebian 53rd out of nowhere
uncut pebble
Nobility in warhammer being utterly useless fops? Say it ain't so!
tall torrent
rannick even sent hestia in his stead to deal with nobles in the revamped hab dreyko mission
he's clearly not having any of that nobility stunt
uncut pebble
There is only one noble in warhammer I trust and he's not in 40k. (it's Karl Franz)
grand perch
There is only one noble in warhammer I trust and he's not in 40k. (it's Karl Fra...
elector counts: summoned
uncut pebble
elector counts: summoned
Ok, now time to boot wh3 to listen to Gelt scream and flail for the next hour.
tall torrent
Anywho, didn't know Rannick was even capable of leaving the ship. Seems to me at...
there's also the thing in gloriana
rannick and swagger's dialogue
rannick seems to me like a field operative turned into desk worker
uncut pebble
That begs the question of who is Swagger, exactly?
grand perch
rennicks boyfriend
uncut pebble
I would assume wyrmwood but even Rannick doesn't know him.
pseudo fiber
Could be another Interogator or some noble or could be Grendyl himself
We have no idea
tall torrent
definitely-not-an-eldar-in-disguise
pseudo fiber
We know of at least 1 other interrogator from the board game
Who's currently working with Atoma's mafia in the cauldron stacks
I think
grand perch
my favorite theory is its grendyl whos really just an absolute eversor-assassin level madman going around slaughtering heretics
makes 0 sense but it'd be funny
grand perch
I just want more saltzpyre voicelines
tall torrent
NO NO NO XENOS HERE SIR
there's been 2 eldar hints in DT
sefoni referencing craftworld altaioc "sword, crescent, ..."
wyrmwood agent saying "no aeldari dropship to bail us out" in a vox transmission
torn gorge
grand perch
dont bring eldar into this, you know how that ends. well have to kill an avatar
torn gorge
avatar is a punching bag dw
grand perch
exactly
torn gorge
throw an ogryn at it
uncut pebble
Avatar of Khaine vs 4 ogryns with 3 rations to share between them, who wins?
(It's the ogryns, they are hungry)
tame lodge
You know you can just, hire someone?
slow spade
"It's me vs a shard of their God" -DoW2 Commissar
severe jolt
There is only one noble in warhammer I trust and he's not in 40k. (it's Karl Fra...
You "trust" Karl Franz? There's a fan theory that he secretly has a seat on the council of thirteen and that's why the Skavens' existence is denied by official authorities. Of course that's a baseless conspiracy theory, but then again, so is the existence of the Skaven...
uncut pebble
I trust Gelt
I would NOT trust Gelt. As cool as he is, he is still a raving lunatic with a tendency to turn people into gold statues if they bother him too much.
slow spade
I would NOT trust Gelt. As cool as he is, he is still a raving lunatic with a te...
the Wizard having a temper? Lies and slander surely
uncut pebble
the Wizard having a temper? Lies and slander surely
I mean, he became a raving lunatic because of the incident that ruined his face.
uncut pebble
You "trust" Karl Franz? There's a fan theory that he secretly has a seat on the ...
Franz is the only noble that isn't insane or actively trying to fuck the rest of the known world over for a higher seat of power. He is reluctant to use his power as Emperor and only wishes for the growth of his realm and the prosperity of his people.
severe jolt
Franz is the only noble that isn't insane or actively trying to fuck the rest of...
t. Karl Franz
uncut pebble
I have no idea at this point.
slow spade
I mean, he became a raving lunatic because of the incident that ruined his face.
Personally for me it's mostly because Gelt genuinely had a chance of succeeding
which is a lot to ask for in the Warhammer universe
yeah he might be insane and tempermental but that's not the "worst" thing you can get as a wizard
tropic notch
Nagash sweep
slow spade
brb simping Nagash
sharp cave
NO NO NO XENOS HERE SIR
xenos are cooler then the imperium
the necrons and orks are cooler 10 fold
tall torrent
the necrons and orks are cooler 10 fold
They’re like the only cool major xenos factions unfortunately
sharp cave
They’re like the only cool major xenos factions unfortunately
eldar? tau? tyranids? actually maybe not the nids they are boring af.
tall torrent
Tyranids are almost entirely relegated to cartoon villains
Show up, fuck shit up, get wrekt by imperial last stand, repeat
Eldar are boring in general
Except maybe harlequins
sharp cave
Show up, fuck shit up, get wrekt by imperial last stand, repeat
macrag
tall torrent
Only interesting tau is farsight
Which is not even part of tau at this point technically
sharp cave
i know i said that wrong i just like to make blue berry mfs mad
tall torrent
They’re their own thing
crisp oak
Except maybe harlequins
I like the clowns
sharp cave
Eldar are boring in general
they arent boring they are more weeb then the tau
the tau arent the weebs its the eldar
sharp cave
Tau are boring
crisp oak
Aledari myeh
sharp cave
If I wanted gundams I would just watch gundam
i doubt your adhd ass could sit through a single episode ngl
tall torrent
Eldar had smth interesting going on with ynnari then GW botched that storyline for plot convenience
crisp oak
i doubt your adhd ass could sit through a single episode ngl
Thats not very nice lol
sharp cave
Thats not very nice lol
yeah i know
tall torrent
So now they’re just boring
sharp cave
mb
sharp cave
So now they’re just boring
gw doesnt write the lore they own the rights to the lore
i think what ever gw says is bs
crisp oak
So now they’re just boring
Best xenos are stryxis and monke
signal zinc
fellas is tactical reload a must have
crisp oak
fellas is tactical reload a must have
No
tall torrent
fellas is tactical reload a must have
Depends, usually no
sharp cave
im a surgical headhunter combo slut
crisp oak
Necrons are ok
signal zinc
yeah I find myself not really benefitting much
tall torrent
Best xenos are stryxis and monke
Necrons and orks hard carry xenos at this point
sharp cave
Necrons are ok
the crons are the coolest faction in 40k
tall torrent
Harlequins can be cool they just don’t show up enough
crisp oak
the crons are the coolest faction in 40k
Coolest faction are the space wolves, cuz fenris
Gets really cold
sharp cave
Coolest faction are the space wolves, cuz fenris
thats a chapter
crisp oak
Imperium blows all of the other factions away by sheer representation
Necrons and orks do carry xebos though
sharp cave
also carcharodons are cooler cuz tyberos
tall torrent
Necrons are also one of the likeliest faction to win in the end
sharp cave
Necrons are also one of the likeliest faction to win in the end
yeah cuz ya know, BLOWS UP STAR WITH MIND
torn gorge
crons vs nids showdown
tall torrent
Nah just cuz they counter 2 of the largest threats that aren’t them
torn gorge
sharp cave
crons vs nids showdown
the crons win easily
the nids cant feed of of tomb worlds
so they just lose