#veteran-class

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warm schooner
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could read the pins and let them sleep

honest pine
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honestly i forget that pins even exist

warm schooner
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fair

honest pine
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jepic

pseudo fiber
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That was Jo wasn't it lmfso

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Fatshark could change a cosmetic colour to purple and she'd say its GSC

queen skiff
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Any tricks on using the Rashad?

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I find I'm still getting overwhelmed in hordes.

void dragon
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i have commited to the degeneracy of putting a DevilClaw on a semi serious build to use on a mid havoc, any advice for which to use?

honest pine
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hollow ibex
honest pine
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When she put GSC as most likely for the teaser over arbites I was kinda like ❓ ❓ ❓

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It has to be a running gag

queen skiff
tall torrent
queen skiff
tall torrent
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without BM, it's unplayable

hollow ibex
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It’s really fucking good but also all or nothing

queen skiff
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Can't I just level up the mastery and then Rebless it?

warm schooner
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you need a specific mix of attributes to unlock one shot on first hit on horde enemies

honest pine
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Well I've just taken a lethal dose of cringe curtesy of build "feedback".

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Time to dip

hollow ibex
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you posted your build and couldn’t handle perfectly civil feedback provided by two people. Idk what to say man 😭

slow spade
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darktide is full of braindead people nothing new

gilded dove
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can someone help me please

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need to do on overwatch penance

honest pine
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"perfectly civil feedback"

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"this build is shit and you're an idiot because its not a completely different build"

void dragon
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what was the build in question?

hollow ibex
sweet pivot
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its not what i like so its bad sorry

hollow ibex
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I don’t think we were being rude but I seems like they disagree lol

void dragon
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focus fire is excessive and doesnt help that much, precision strikes is more valuable than deadshot (specially with the lack of good stamina vet has), would take field improv for demolition team and since the main goal of the sniper mk4 helbore is to do hard hitting shots, would swap kark for frags for the aoe cc and horde clear

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that's on a surface level

void dragon
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let me care damnit

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i dont mind

hollow ibex
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We already told them the same thing

austere mica
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And send it

hollow ibex
void dragon
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Sirosky made its choice: and its to call everyone and their builds maidenless

slow spade
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"hotshot helbore" build -> does not use Hotshot blessing

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false advertising detected

void dragon
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that do seems like a trick

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where mah fire?

austere mica
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Hotshot is such a silly blessing

slow spade
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if it was literally 50 cleaving at least it would be funny

void dragon
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not so bad for mk5 I guess

hollow ibex
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There

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I’m too lazy to post the revised weapons

austere mica
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aww

void dragon
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god i wish kark nades were god for something else but ogryn sandwitches

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all the time i kill the target with something else

hollow ibex
void dragon
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idk if they actually do damage under the shield if you actually stick in between because its always better to shank the jerk to chain shield breaks

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damned thing should insta break the shields

hollow ibex
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They just slide off and don’t seem to do shit

slow spade
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I do find it funny that the captains are basically immune to the kraks

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charged thunderhammer to the shield? na damage capped

hollow ibex
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Yeah chain special against void shields is nice

slow spade
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I guess that's why Xaphan survived an Vindicare assassin at Vraks

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man stole a void shield :p

severe jolt
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Sweet Emperor almighty, that was a hard carry for you lot. But THANK YOU.

wary osprey
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whats the best blessings for dueling sword?

sharp epoch
tame lodge
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With a side note on Rampage

wary osprey
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i feel like riposte and precog are pretty situational, someone yesterday was telling me thrust and uncanny

severe jolt
wary osprey
tame lodge
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It isn't bad

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It's just that the alternative is better

wary osprey
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i see i see

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ill probably do uncanny and precog, i think itll synergize well

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thank you for the advice @tame lodge

tame lodge
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🫡

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At the end of the day you could just go by vibes

wary osprey
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never a bad option

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may the emperor guide thee

severe jolt
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This thing I'm using, is a workstation model. It has dual Intel Xeons, 32GB of RAM, an Nvidia Quadro GPU and a hardware RAID controller. It's top of the line hardware from ~10 years ago, but not really something that's geared towards gaming. Could use a better GPU and an SSD to be honest.

iron marten
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Felt my knees physically age when I saw that lol

sharp epoch
severe jolt
slow spade
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oh I guess you don't do Mortis Trials then lol

summer lance
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dear stealth vets
dont be like kinnia and just speedrun the mission ahead of everyone, leaving us behind

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even as a knife zaelot player i dont go through drop downs or newer mission areas without waiting for my buddies behind me

summer lance
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stealth players are a different breed honestly

sonic kayak
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sorry

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was me

tall torrent
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pain and suffering

crisp oak
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Anyone know some good quickdraw revolver builds that would work in say aurics

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(The funny speed shooter one)

orchid hemlock
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@fleet wraith @tall torrent

now kiss

tame lodge
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RT 3rd playthrough ended

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What should I do next

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Maybe I should go full heretic

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See what all the fuzz is about

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crisp oak
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Iconoclast doesnt make sense either

tall torrent
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u'd have gotten shot by argenta when u accepted "theodora" in prologue

crisp oak
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Argenta is a dummy

slow spade
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don't take Argenta anywhere

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ez fix

crisp oak
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Then got ulfar and just used him as a big man

slow spade
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for us, we didn't trust her because Iconoclast so we just had no clue what she did the entire time lol

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sadly Arch-militant got giga-nerfed before we got to try her :c

crisp oak
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might change when fighting the act 5 bosses

tame lodge
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Ooh I know

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Charisma build

crisp oak
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nope

tame lodge
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Just sweet talk everything

crisp oak
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the home depot build

tame lodge
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Even the elf at Janus

crisp oak
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is the true iconoclast

slow spade
slow spade
crisp oak
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drill+malpian shroud

slow spade
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because you can make your speech scale off of Int

crisp oak
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with warrior vanguard

crisp oak
slow spade
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accidentally make a charisma build trying to make a sniper loregryn

crisp oak
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and mp

slow spade
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honestly that realy sums up how builds work in Rogue Trader

crisp oak
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issue with forge world though is that really only calculated relations matters for an operator

slow spade
crisp oak
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try to make a tank, accidentally make god

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I'm.... running a witch spear

slow spade
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we tried to make an evasion psyker build -> accidentally make a psyker with more hp than a space marine

crisp oak
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try to make a dps and accidentally make an unkillable tank

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slow spade
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lasguns are honestly necessary on the higher difficulties

tall torrent
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there's this 1 lasgun that does way more dmg if enemy armor is 60% or higher

crisp oak
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isn't hecatons still better?

slow spade
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I know this got nerfed but god I miss this

tall torrent
slow spade
crisp oak
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ah

tall torrent
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I built my RT to be basically DT veteran equivalent

crisp oak
tall torrent
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dual weapon combat, axe/mace + shotgun pistol, with burst lasgun

crisp oak
tall torrent
slow spade
crisp oak
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can't wait for arbites

tall torrent
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DT shovel has 1 single purpose and it's gaslighting

crisp oak
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double shotgun arch militant

slow spade
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sword vs chaos space marine? 800 damage

crisp oak
tall torrent
crisp oak
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cuz the mark 7 is my jam

slow spade
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clearly we need a power shovel

crisp oak
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mk7 is my low investment problem solver

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tame lodge
tall torrent
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+4xBS dmg vs enemies with 60% or more armor

tall torrent
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but u do get the shovel from a pile of bodies

tame lodge
slow spade
crisp oak
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terrorax rifle also is a good meme pick for some fights

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triple damage on beeg targets

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slow spade
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slap that with a Sanctic Psyker + Assassin Operator

crisp oak
slow spade
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and you're probably going like 1k damage per shot

crisp oak
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this thing from ther smugglerspirates

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is the armor one

tall torrent
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this gun is cracked

slow spade
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oh I need to get that lol

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I wonder if my save has it

tall torrent
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I have argenta on heavy boltgun burst

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and my RT as the versatile melee/ranged one

crisp oak
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yeah argenta works with heavy weps

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ulfar is my emotional support sm

tall torrent
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and cassia because fishwife is overpowered

crisp oak
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but cassia+rt are the only units to go

tall torrent
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u have to basically bench cassia for fights to be challenging later on

slow spade
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Urfar flamer build + Operator RT + Cassia + Pasqal (damage buffer) + Jay + 1 Merc Psyker Officer

crisp oak
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and I'm using a crappy weapon (witch staff)

tall torrent
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I'm playing custom diff with +100% enemy wounds

slow spade
crisp oak
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the charge on kill boots are broken action economy

slow spade
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and she's still insanely strong

crisp oak
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sooo broken

tame lodge
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And Muzzle Velocity

slow spade
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been using this Psyker helm on my Operator

tame lodge
slow spade
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thanks comrade

crisp oak
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still not sure why it isnt a force weapon

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its such a bad weapon but it looks so cool

tame lodge
crisp oak
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nice

slow spade
crisp oak
crimson pebble
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the discombobulater

slow spade
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I wish I didn't look so stupid but stats are stats

crisp oak
slow spade
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If only I could transmog this...

crimson pebble
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also this thing as lowkey insane

crisp oak
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I'm currently running artificer power armor, and default headgear (psyker)

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with the witch staff, malpians, and the charge on kill boots

slow spade
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yeah it feels like any melee build in the late game needs a dagger for the 50 dodge reduct

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otherwise the enemies just outscale my weapon skill :c

crimson pebble
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i had kibellah doing like 2k bleed stacks on last boss w it

crisp oak
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your kibellah should have maxed weapon skill

slow spade
crisp oak
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character training?

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though tbh most of my damage with executioner is just heroic acts

slow spade
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I had to respec Ulfar into a flamer build because melee was like "50% chance to hit"

crisp oak
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do some momentum screwery, oh now all of the kobs take 500% more dot damage

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and have 20 stacks of each

crisp oak
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but I think one of the exemplar talents help with that

slow spade
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but Weapon Skill is so I can crit to make it worth it when I do hit

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I'm a gambler at heart

crisp oak
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dont need to crit to do beeg damage with kibbies

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just lots of dots

slow spade
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yeah but we went Ulfar in our run :c

crisp oak
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ah

slow spade
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mostly because last time we played, Ulfar was incomplete and shitty

crisp oak
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yeah ulfar is better at ranged

slow spade
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so we're checking out his revised form

crisp oak
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ulfar is still glitchy

slow spade
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yeah...

crisp oak
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I made him a tank

slow spade
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seeing a space marine fail in melee vs cultists feels bad too

crisp oak
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the terrifying squad is the all navigator squad with mods

slow spade
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tbh probaly THE most broken thing we have is this funny ring

crisp oak
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KEKW_ogryn executioner navigators are sooo nutty

slow spade
crisp oak
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Deadge vanguards should not be the biggest damage dealers

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and drills/saws should not be the best melee weapons

slow spade
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oh right the funny cloak

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sadly the only Iconoclast we had is Abelard :c

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and fucking Ulfar couldn't use it

crisp oak
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abelard... does more damage than ulfar

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by far

slow spade
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yeah but we wanted to do his companion quests

crisp oak
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like 10k damage

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a hit

slow spade
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because it was buggy and undoable when we first played

crisp oak
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oh yeah I'm currently trying to do all of the campanion questions

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but I think I broke the annoying elfs

slow spade
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hopefully Ulfar's actually spawns for you :p

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classic Owlcat

crisp oak
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KEKW_ogryn I uhh went to sentinels pride without realizing he needed to be in the party

slow spade
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rip lol

crisp oak
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He sorta sucks

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Quest completed too somehow

uncut pebble
subtle summit
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Real Veteran Hours

tall torrent
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weapon skill is completely redundant with that 1 item

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ranged crit hit = next atk always hits

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ulfar's passives are so bad

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strongest passive in the game might be jae's cold trader acumen

mossy wedge
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Hey guys I've just started playing again after taking a break. How do I craft a powersword 6 as brunts armoury is missing some things

slow spade
slow spade
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Can't wait to replace him with the funny Death Cult Assassin

rigid rover
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are combat knife good on veteran?

hollow ibex
unreal nova
hollow ibex
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mk3 is good on the right build too

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bleed memes

narrow frost
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Memes?

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Smh

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Lac uncanny is right there

hollow ibex
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I still consider it a meme even if it’s undeniably effective with the right build

unreal nova
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Flees.

narrow frost
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It doesn't need a build

obsidian harness
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Best perks for Recon Lasgun?

unreal nova
obsidian harness
unreal nova
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Or your usual.

obsidian harness
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Are the 25% Flak and Carapache not the best?

unreal nova
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Flak maniac.

obsidian harness
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OKay thanks 🙂

unreal nova
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I personally use crits flak.

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You don't wanna shoot cara anyway.

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Unless running onslaught memes.

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Some prefer unyielding over flak/maniac to shred bosses.

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But that's a taste thing and build dependent.

reef portal
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Can someone help me understand the difference between Shredders and Kraks and why you might choose each one?

low oar
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Krak is for one single big thing
Shredders are for tons of small little things grouped up

austere mica
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Shredders do extremely good area damage against everything not ogryn sized and 2 will wipe a room in 90% of cases

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Kraks are long fuse sticky grenades that instantly kill all enemies besides bosses when they go off, and they heavy stagger bosses and drop like 5k damage

unreal nova
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The thing hits the entire room easily. XD

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And activates all the barrels in it.

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ALL.

low oar
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They are grouped in a room 🙂
The room is now the group

static warren
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I feel like my plasma gun doesn't do that much damage, it's barely able to take on 1/4 of a boss's healthbar

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any suggestions?

austere mica
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Ask path when they are around

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They’ll throw 3 pages of information at you

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Should be enough

sharp epoch
loud belfry
low oar
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Plasma is a point and click adventure for anything that is taggable and not a boss

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It can definitely do good damage to a boss, but really ammo inefficient

unreal nova
vivid silo
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Use Get's Hot + Rising Heat blessings (or Get's Hot + Blaze Away if you are really efficient at landing weakspot hits).
If using Rising Heat, fire till 100% Heat, vent once, fire 2 shots at maximum efficiency and wax on / wax off. If using Blaze Away you heatdump (remember to hit weakspot hits) completely each time.
Ensure you have following talents: Precision Strikes, Bring it Down, Focus Target (maybe Focused Fire too).
Bonus points for things like Agile Engagement, Longshot, Kill Zone (if they are available for you build). You can also stack Close Quarters Killzone with For the Emperor!

tropic halo
normal bay
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It's ok at bosses but you need to hit weak spots to do anything

static warren
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what's the recomended weapon then?

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and why does everyone say the plasma gun is op?

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is that a old meta?

low oar
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Because the plasma gun is still a point and click adventure for literally everything else

normal bay
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Still the best all around gun Vet has.

Great ammo economy w/ huge mag, nice breakpoints, can't be suppressed, infinite cleave, good swap speed

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Bosses aren't really a big deal for a decent team

static warren
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ok ok

tropic halo
green willow
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  • foreshadowing *
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my veteran already has a shock maul and a pistol. if im getting arbites I'm probably gonna use the same name as him

red robin
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Nah dude

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Call him Tequila Sunshine

nimble wadi
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Is there any way to make weapon swapping to bolter faster?

normal bay
thin minnow
pseudo fiber
nimble wadi
vapid void
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are any of the las guns meta they're fun

tame lodge
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2b Ilas and recons

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And laspistol Mk2

tall torrent
tame lodge
tall torrent
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At +100% enemy wounds in custom diff btw

tame lodge
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You're also playing with extra enemy health yeah

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Lmao

vapid void
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noob question but what makes the dueling sword so powerful? is there anything specific or just overtuned stats?

tame lodge
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Comically unbalanced Rogue Trader

tall torrent
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It’s a stat stick

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Much like every overpowered weapon in the game

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It has negligible complexity

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It’s simpler than every other melee weapon on offer

vapid void
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which mark of dueling sword is the glazed one

tame lodge
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Mk4 brain off

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Mk2 is just Mk4 with a better horde clear

vapid void
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so mk2?

odd sparrow
tame lodge
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If you want to learn the combos

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If you don't

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Mk4

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It'll just work

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Because while the DS horde clearing isn't top tier

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It is pretty safe

tame lodge
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Because you can kill one groaner/walker per swing while having 4.5 cleave on lights

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So you can hit 4-5 groaners/walkers per swing

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💀

tall torrent
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poxwalker is 1.5 mass in base game

tame lodge
tame lodge
tall torrent
tame lodge
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Huh, did they get buffed?

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Groaners were 1 mass

tall torrent
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I think so

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can't remember when

tame lodge
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Aw shit

tall torrent
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chaos marine is 70% armor so my gun dealt like 50 smth extra base dmg with VoC buff on

tall torrent
tame lodge
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It's also very weird how one of the shots from the burst goes on a random tangent

tall torrent
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and I didn't build my RT for recoil reduction

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I gave him master duellist gloves so I can completely ignore weapon skill

tame lodge
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Smh
Not rate of fire maxxing with the equipment that totally ignores recoil

tall torrent
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tho I'm ngl
this lasgun kind of kills better than the heavy boltgun I have rn

tall torrent
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the 4xBS bonus vs 60% or higher armor effect is just

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cracked

tame lodge
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Add a Master Tacticians Inspire

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I was about to start a 4th playthrough

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Then I noticed that I got spoiled by Sanctioned Psyker Rogue Trader

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They are just too good

tall torrent
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I'll consider a grimdark playthrough after I finish this one

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but then again I have a guide to work on

tame lodge
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Think I'll just buy Void Shadows and go for it on my 4th

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I'm thinking
Fortress World Soldier into Arch Militant

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So I can spam burst

tall torrent
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it's prob the best dps outside of psyker?

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mace/axe + shotgun pistol
with lasgun secondary

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I'm ngl kinda disappointed by bolt weapons on offer

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with dedicated demolition spec I hit for ~300 on 1 shotgun crit

tame lodge
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I think I'll go telepath this time

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I've seen what pyro, santic, divination, bio can do

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Can't wait to order the screamer on Kiava Gamma to attack his teammates and he summons 500 heralds and horrors

tall torrent
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I 1 rounded that manta ray

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I visited kiava gamma last

tame lodge
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I go from Janus to Kiava Gamma

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No time to get to dargonus smh

tall torrent
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fourstone - janus - dargonus - vheabos VI - kiava gamma

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did dargonus earlier because that allows cassia meeting earlier

tame lodge
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Maybe I should side with the elves on Janus this time

tall torrent
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I made alliance with them but didn't let them rule

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that just seems like the best resolution tbh

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they're so fked in the head they couldn't save their own world, and they have the gall to conspire to rule human world

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plus they're eldar so they're automatically inferior to humans

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choosing not to exterminate them is already an incredible mercy

tame lodge
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💀

tall torrent
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eldar actually deserve the worst of everything ngl

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egomaniacs who can't accept their own faults

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the only based eldar are harlequins

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nocturne of oblivion is cool

lucid crest
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truth nvke

tall torrent
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the drukhari absolutely deserve to go extinct

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I'd shoot that psystifler again

lucid crest
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agree

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yall fw my run

tame lodge
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Although I expected some daemons to fight

tall torrent
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drukhari literally already feed directly into slaanesh

fading yarrow
frank monolith
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any plasma vet for havoc 40 eu?

tame lodge
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Is there a way to romance Yrliet before act3

fading yarrow
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Foresees that Angron will cause mayhem
Tries to kill him as a baby
Get merced
The sound of the confrontation gets Angron discovered and Nailed

tame lodge
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Imagine the emotional impact of choosing your kind or your love

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Listen, I know what I said when Yremisswhatever soft locked my game

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But that was on the heat of battle

crisp oak
crisp oak
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Cumarag probably wouldnt even feel it

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but to be honest fuck act 3

tall torrent
crisp oak
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Cant wait to run heretic so I can just give up yrliets soulstone to slaanesh

tall torrent
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I'm having a hard time deciding between siding with vladym or incendia

tall torrent
crisp oak
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But vladym isnt

tall torrent
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I realized I fked over having secret companion achivement when I sent food to footfall then proceeded to go dogmatic

crisp oak
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Incendia is a sick person

tall torrent
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I redeemed winterscale

crisp oak
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Who would leave footfall in ruins, so that dangerous xenos items are hidden in the shadows

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Like if the halo device is given to vladym, do you think he is going to sell it to anyone but the inquisition?

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With the kasabillica gone heresy will increase

tame lodge
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Just side with Incendia, easy

crisp oak
tame lodge
crisp oak
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Its what my dogmatic did

crisp oak
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Theres a dogmatic option

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That basically makes her shit her pants and reconsider

torn gorge
tall torrent
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I don't think I had that?

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is it before starting incendia fight or after

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cuz she just dies after

crisp oak
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Before

tall torrent
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that's iconoclast I think

crisp oak
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Huh, I was dogmatic

tall torrent
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it needs iconoclast 3

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I'm at dogmatic 4 alrdy lol

crisp oak
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Did you agree to fight chorda?

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Because it only pops up after you agree

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Same with heuronymous

tall torrent
crisp oak
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You have to agree, then look around

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Iconoclast I think lets you get chorda as a companion oddly enough

tame lodge
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Iconoclast and Dogmatic

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As iconoclast you get her to stop the killings and shit

tall torrent
crisp oak
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Huh, something about "heretics will eventually burn"

tame lodge
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As dogmatic she just wants to follow another faithful of the emperor

crisp oak
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Did you maybe fail the awareness check?

tall torrent
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I passed it

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that's how I know she's gotta go

crisp oak
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And nothing in the dialogue tree about heretics being hunted down

tall torrent
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and I dogmatic'd myself out of that

crisp oak
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No iconoclast is warning her about the amulet, dogmatic was threatening

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Hol up imma fire it up in toybox

tame lodge
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Welp

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Death to the heretics

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ZEALOT_icon 🗣️

crisp oak
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My iconoclast "xenofugger" will not be doing that

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Still exterminatused the planet though

tame lodge
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Why are you fugging xenos

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Eeeew

crisp oak
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these 2

tall torrent
thin minnow
crisp oak
tall torrent
crisp oak
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that was in toybox

crisp oak
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but you can check the flags

thin minnow
tame lodge
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Why you fugging muties bruh

crisp oak
#

I needed to fix broken flags like twice in my run

tall torrent
crisp oak
tall torrent
#

etudes?

thin minnow
tame lodge
#

Now Navigators are just a different strain of human

crisp oak
crisp oak
#

should be in chap 4 I think

thin minnow
#

And segs with a navigator would probably mentally scar you for weeks

crisp oak
thin minnow
#

(worth it)

tame lodge
thin minnow
tame lodge
thin minnow
#

A very pretty mutie

tame lodge
#

But sanctioned

crisp oak
thin minnow
#

Is that Spanish

crisp oak
#

The lex is coming for the rogue trader

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His spurious remarks will be added on top of his tax evasion

tall torrent
tame lodge
#

So yesnt

crisp oak
#

Cuz thats in the dialogue tab when talking with someone

tall torrent
crisp oak
#

No idea tbh

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If you can tell me how because I spent hours on cassias quest figuring out where it broke

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(Apparently her character flags were not incrementing for some reason while doing the romance so she just got possesed)

tall torrent
#

as fucked up as it is

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Chorda is mostly in the right

crisp oak
#

Not really

tall torrent
#

Hieronymus has no faith, only fear of death
Ryzza is a heretic
Vladaym is the only normal person here

crisp oak
#

Shes a manchurian candidate who went off the rails due to her canniablism

tall torrent
#

shouldn't the reverend have more faith than most

crisp oak
#

Because the faith of saint druses is compatible

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And tbh druses may have been q nurgle champion

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Like the saint in the first grey knights book

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Anyway his faith doesnt really change if he goes to nurgle vs the dogmatic way

tame lodge
#

He can be a nurglite?

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That's news to me

#

Although I should be more concerned about his past

#

Damn, I really tuned him out

crisp oak
#

Oh yeah he is.... important to the plot

#

For chorda at least (he turned her nuts)

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And he is already like halfway to being a nurgle cultist

tall torrent
#

and somehow after all that he can still be easily swayed to join chaos

tame lodge
#

Yeah I know about the cryo chambers

tall torrent
#

even more so than the moebian 6th in DT

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at least the moebians were getting bent over

crisp oak
#

To be fair he was shown the final destination of his faith

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And it terrified him

tall torrent
#

he just casually goes "well I guess the grandfather is pretty nice"

crisp oak
#

And so he either gets corrupted to nurgle, and preaches to the needy

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Or becomes repentent and preaches to the needy

tall torrent
#

I think siding with chorda is the better decision

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even though

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siding with vladaym gives better loot because chorda drops some cool stuff

crisp oak
#

Thing is yoy can control vladaym

#

Its less so him controlling footfall, but you controlling footfall

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And he pretty much becomes an inquisitorial agent

tall torrent
#

side note
it's funny that kibellah cannot pick psychic awakening in exemplar

tall torrent
#

she's actually a minor psyker?

crisp oak
#

You mean with the blood emporer and shit

tall torrent
#

I think super early on there's an awareness check where ur RT figures out that she's unaware of her own ability

#

yea

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only a psyker can read emperor's tarot

tame lodge
#

TBF in all my playthroughs, reverend got leprosy and went blind

tall torrent
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I think the worst part abt this all is

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if u side with vladaym u cannot fuck over the 2 actual borderline heretics

crisp oak
tall torrent
#

and somehow

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calligos is more redeemable than chorda

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like, wow

crisp oak
#

Chorda makes yrliet, argenta, and heinrix agree on something

tall torrent
#

calligos was also way cooler of a character ngl

#

he actually solo'd a bloodthirster and won

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incredible feat for a mortal human

crisp oak
#

Tbf he is only half mortal at that point

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Hes heavily blessed by khorne

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And killing the bloodthirster makes him lose his blessings making him parapalegic

tall torrent
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yea but he still won

crisp oak
#

True

tall torrent
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beating a bloodthirster in melee is a big achievement

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chorda could never be this cool

crisp oak
#

True true

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Also you can execute ryzza I think

tall torrent
crisp oak
#

Dang and I just finished my dogmatic run last week

tame lodge
crisp oak
#

But yeah threatening her makes her just a normal pirate

#

In the ending slides

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Icono you redeem her and she becomes a merc and may die depending on some other choices you made.

tall torrent
#

ryzza has no good ending

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she either gets executed by you, or by imperial navy, or goes to rob the explorators and get curbstomped by the blessed amarnat and their 300000 plasma guns

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or becomes a full blown heretic

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I'm gonna side with chorda

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ryzza needs to get purged

tame lodge
crisp oak
#

Based cannibalism

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Anyway you can also change the footfall food etude to recruit her in act 5

tame lodge
#

I don't think sending food locks you out

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Sending chaos infested food does though

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Because on my 3rd playthrough I had Hecaton and the choice to recruit chorda showed up

tall torrent
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I'd much rather the chaplain takes over from hieronymus

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chaplain is a good guy

tame lodge
#

Uh

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The same chaplain that tries to burn you alive?

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💀

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Fidelio quest was an interesting one

crisp oak
tame lodge
#

Idk

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He sent me into the crematory

crisp oak
#

That was an administratum clerk

tame lodge
#

Hmmmm

crisp oak
#

Also he cannot replace heuronympus

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He has to go on an adventure with adelia

tame lodge
#

I will recheck on my 4th playthrough

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If you identify as RT before arriving on Footfall, Anvers do some crowd shooting

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That's not cool at all

crisp oak
#

Thunderhammer anver fight was my first wipe

tall torrent
#

shame that siding with vladaym means 30 less conviction points

crisp oak
#

Not gonna like vladyam was the most competant governer Ive seen in rogue trader

tame lodge
#

proceeds to antagonize him

tall torrent
#

I still think siding with chorda is the better choice in the long term
even though vladaym doesn't deserve what happens to him

tame lodge
#

I should stop antagonizing governors

tall torrent
#

clementia werserian is pretty competent

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abelard's daughter

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astaria (his granddaughter) also pretty competent

green willow
#

any autopistol enjoyers?

crisp oak
#

Gaprak is

tame lodge
#

What about the SAP

green willow
#

semi auto pistol?

tame lodge
#

Shredder Auto Pistol

green willow
#

yes

tame lodge
#

It got buffed recently
Good enough to one mag bosses on a decent build

green willow
#

what would its variants look like if it had

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I want DOT bullets

tame lodge
#

So Vraks5

crisp oak
#

Btw, any speedshooter enjoyers know a good build for it?

green willow
tall torrent
crisp oak
#

Yeah that only proves my point more

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Saddest part of the abelard ending is his family turning into the same crappy nobility you see

plain osprey
grand perch
#

ive come to enjoy autopistol with an exec + MMF build

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its sort of silly but fun if you can keep your ammo count up

crisp oak
#

I love the autpistol, best nonlethal option vet has

grand perch
#

dont underestimate it post buff

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also, shotguns exist

crisp oak
#

Havent played it since buff

crisp oak
#

Ever just sprayed a mauler?

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Funniest shit ever

grand perch
crisp oak
#

Its moreso the spazzing like they are being hit by a tazer

#

Would yell tazer tazer and just shoot a scab rager in the head for a mag

#

Anyway, any idea on the breakpoints for the 6 shooter?

topaz zenith
#

yo any pro vet smoke here? if i smoke gunners horde they are blind and they cant shoot us or we have to smoke us?

faint beacon
narrow frost
#

I got a video for you

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Lol

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4 vets all with smokes, havoc 40

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Pro smoker

topaz zenith
#

aight ty

narrow frost
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Think smoke as a psyker bubble if you put it on yourself they might still shoot but will miss

#

It's better to throw it on top of them so they are confused

warm idol
karmic moat
void dragon
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Has someone like path made a comparative of how much damage difference is between Disrupt destiny and Marksman Focus? They feel a little similar but DD seems to give FAR more damage bonuses that are not only ranged but also melee

crude wind
#

MMF isn't great sadly. It's okay on certain weapons but the whole don't move schtick is annoying as hell. Easy enough to get stacks back but it feels so counterintuitively designed

tame lodge
#

Ok that's not what he's looking for

#

MMF is 75% finesse
DD is 15% Dmg, 30% CRIT damage, 37.5% weakspot damage

#

Now you just need to do the math

hollow ibex
#

The math is the hardest part though

tame lodge
topaz lance
#

that weapon swap speed node should give at least a 50% boost. Right now it feels like it has 0 impact.

tame lodge
#

You know
I might take a crack at it later

#

Even have a vigilant for real time comparison

thin solar
#

Why do people like the plasma gun? I really dislike it's crosshair and the charge req. Plus it's got such little ammo conservation.

#

It doesn't even do that much damage I'm getting a top of 800 damage not crit

dry cloak
void dragon
thin solar
dry cloak
#

shoot specials

thick bear
dry cloak
#

and mosnters

thick bear
#

Iirc you can oneshot ragers with a headshot with it, 2 shot muties I think?

thin solar
#

I was doing more damage with a chainsword than the plasma gun on monstrositys

dreamy spade
#

I used to spam plasma when survivalist was op

#

That was the meta

dry cloak
thick bear
tall torrent
#

@tame lodge I got to the point where einrich does some trolling

thick bear
#

Your alpha strikes will be better than most anything else

agile mango
#

if I don't pick the survivalist aura for vet, does the basic scavenger aura you get regardless still have the 5 second cooldown?

thick bear
dreamy spade
dry cloak
#

how old is that clip

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before or after the nerf

dreamy spade
#

Before survivalist nerf

agile mango
# thick bear No, the aura you choose replaces the basic one

I'm saying if I pick no aura, I automatically get the basic ammo regen aura regardless of the fact that I didn't take the one that grants 1% ammo every 5 seconds. i'm curious if that default aura also has a 5 second cooldown for regenerating ammo or if it's uncapped.

dreamy spade
#

I could replenish ×3 more ammo from 1 shot than i used

tame lodge
dry cloak
#

even if its uncapped youre forced to choose one for proper build

tame lodge
#

Just normal shot spam all day

dreamy spade
warm idol
#

like a revolver on steroids

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just whip it out and let it cleave through any horde

#

trapper/flamer at the tail end of an enemy horde? no problem just one shot and they are dead alongside any unlucky bastard that was inbetween you and them

#

a conga line of shotgunners? gone, reduced to atoms

dreamy spade
#

Revolver is better as a 1 shotter in non-havoc

tame lodge
#

Such a small fight

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Wish we had more of that

warm idol
#

I just wish the charged plasma shot had more oomph

#

atm it just feels inferior to normal shots outside of terrain penetration

agile mango
tame lodge
warm idol
#

rogue trader?

#

yeah you can make some absolutely broken characters with that

#

my first playthrough I was an officer and abelard and argenta were just tearing through everything

thick bear
warm idol
#

idk if they nerfed her since I last played but I remember her mogging every other character, even ulfar

tame lodge
#

Such a comically unbalanced game

#

Love it

warm idol
#

ulfar was sadly underwhelming on launch and I hope they buffed him since then

dry cloak
#

hes good now iirc

tame lodge
#

When you can use Heroic acts 4 times in the first turn

warm idol
#

abelard did melee tanking better and argenta did shooting better

#

I love how I had some chaos marine monologuing and when the fight started I just had argenta shred him

thick bear
warm idol
warm idol
#

yrliet also had crazy single shot damage

#

had quite the op party

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also have you finished it?

#

what are your thoughts on the acts?

#

imo act 2 and 4 are the best

#

act 1 is alright

tall torrent
warm idol
#

act 3 and 5 felt really undercooked

#

altho act 3 gets points for letting you see commoragah

tall torrent
warm idol
tame lodge
#

Act 1 is aight, act 2 good
I don't mind act3 but it's quite short

warm idol
#

like I remember launch being UBER buggy

tall torrent
#

Act3 pacing is too fast for the number of important decisions u have to make in there

warm idol
#

I had to use cheats to get past some bugs in act 5 on release

hollow ibex
#

I’m just going to keep waiting until the game is done before i try it lol

thick bear
#

I've only got to the planet where you get Yrliet, I like it but I hate that the game fills out your roster with every role possible in act 1 and makes your RT feel like a third wheel, Heinrix can be a healer, Abelard can be a tank, Pasqal can be shooty, and Idira can be fertilizer

tall torrent
#

Also apparently u can’t get cassia true romance unless u put her through act 3?

warm idol
warm idol
#

we hate idira in this house

thick bear
warm idol
#

I hope dark heresy won't be as buggy

#

hyped for that too

warm idol
thick bear
warm idol
#

and a massive hypocrite

thick bear
#

Tabletop Dark Heresy is you play as Interrogators, but they're having you play as the Inquisitor this time around

warm idol
#

bitches and moans about how the imperium treats psykers while also being a prime example of why you dont want an unsanctioned psyker

warm idol
#

you play as the interrogators during the actual planetisde missions

#

while your inquisitor hangs aboard the ship

thick bear
#

I just don't like her because she's an operative and a psyker and can't decide if she's a support or a damage

warm idol
#

since correct me if im wrong but from the trailer we didn't see the inquisitor planetside?

#

we only saw the warband

tall torrent
#

Ya

#

Inquisitor is pulling a grendyl tier move

#

Leaving everything to expendable underlings

thick bear
warm idol
#

I hope they give them character tho

#

also we are defo playing as a radical

thick bear
#

Also mentions the puritan vs radical split

warm idol
#

since the title art has both an eldar and a kroot as part of your group

warm idol
#

in the exploration/combat thing

#

it's your warband that does it

#

you hang around the ship giving orders

tall torrent
#

Can only say “not fully puritan”

warm idol
#

true

#

prolly gonna be like rogue trader where you can choose how purtian or radical you want to be

thick bear
#

Let me be a Horusian Inquisitor

warm idol
#

would be funny if they just let us go full radical and use daemonhosts

tall torrent
#

Daemonhost could actually be a secret companion

#

Yk

thick bear
tall torrent
#

In fact go one step further

warm idol
#

yeah it varies but from the footage we saw it seems more like the former

#

but we don't know much

#

we shall see

tall torrent
#

Recruit Steve the flayed one into his warband

#

Why not

#

What could possibly go wrong

warm idol
#

maybe you will control your inquisitor in combat only in missions where shit really hits the fan

#

since y'know inquistors tend to carry around some serious firepower

thick bear
#

Wish they would've done Dark Crusade instead so I could play a heretek and become Vashtorr's darling little daemon prince boy

tame lodge
#

Some inquisitors casually transporting a DH aboard their ships

warm idol
#

I hope we get consequences for going down fully down a certain path

#

like pissing off an inquisitor on the other end of the spectrum

#

imagine being so radical you get the fucking grey knights called down upon you

tall torrent
#

I wonder if dark heresy’s player character is gonna be Ordo malleus or hereticus

#

I’m guessing hereticus?

warm idol
#

prolly hereticus

thick bear
#

It's in the Calixis sector so probably Hereticus?

warm idol
#

altho if we get malleus it would be pretty sick if we get something like a lategame grey knight companion

#

xenos is a major doubt

#

but imagine deathwatch

#

there's an entire radical subfaction of the ordo xenos based in the calixis

thick bear
#

They had a xenos book for 2nd edition so maybe

warm idol
#

plus we get both a kroot and an eldar companion

#

all ordos can fit

#

also man next month is packed with 40k stuff

#

dlc for darktide and rogue trader

#

horde mode for sm2

thick bear
#

Where's Eternal Crusade 2 : (

warm idol
#

never sadly

#

even though a 40k planetside game is something out of my wettest dream

#

eternal crusades journey was a very sad one

thick bear
#

Miss that game even if it felt schizophrenic

warm idol
#

I backed it and had such high hopes

#

but as time went on

#

I was like "nah it's not gonna be finished"

#

especially considering the most playable it has ever been it was a smaller scale team shooter

#

as opposed to the grand scale we were promised

#

with massive factions clashing

#

infantry engaging in ranged and melee

#

tanks fighting

#

aircraft flying

#

like planetside

thick bear
#

Chaos Sorcerers felt so weird in it, wasn't one of the healing powers they had like some kind of aoe healing bomb?

warm idol
#

which is another game I haven't played in ages

#

I think last time I played planetside was back in like 2018

#

I remember when they announced planetside arena lmao

#

that didn't last long

thick bear
#

And the Slaanesh power was some weird thing where you'd tether to another player and give them extra movement and melee speed?

warm idol
#

I didn't play chaos I played muhreens

#

I remember eldar being

#

op and cancer asf though!

thick bear
#

I did all 4

#

Eldar was horrible

warm idol
#

gave me ptsd to dawn of eldar

#

EC is just such a shame

#

just makes me imagine what would have been

thick bear
#

Other factions had jump packs/raptorae/rokkits but only eldar could hover in the air and just blast everyone

warm idol
#

40k is bigger than ever and I imagine these days a large scale planetside like 40k game would have been quite popular

thin minnow
#

We need battlefield 40k

#

More like battlefront

thick bear
#

Eh idk if it'd really be possible without upsetting either the power fantasy gremlins or the lore purists

warm idol
#

it's a video game I think it's gonna upset both regardless

thin minnow
#

With marines as heroes and shit

thick bear
#

Like, SMs versus lost and damned would be a slaughter and unfun for LoD

warm idol
#

most normal humans are aware that you can't completely make a game lore accurate without making some stuff just unfun

thick bear
#

But if you don't have SMs you'd get people whining about "I wanna play as one"

warm idol
#

that's a good way to fit in marines

#

and other strong factions

#

otherwise you kinda need to have the guardsmen as npc's and the marines as the players

#

but for a battlefront/battlefield esque game

#

guardsmen fit the bill much better

thin minnow
#

C'mon dice make it

warm idol
#

due to stuff like vehicles and ttk

thick bear
#

Lord no

thin minnow
warm idol
#

I don't trust dice after 2042

thick bear
#

Do you really want to pay for lootboxes I mean "reliquaries"

thin minnow
warm idol
#

so do I but

#

sadly some things feel like they aren't meant to be

warm idol
#

so many stuff in 40k that I want games made of

#

like a dedicated deathwatch coop game

thick bear
warm idol
#

like c'mon if you want a coop game with astartes

#

deathwatch fits the bill perfectly

fading yarrow
warm idol
#

I like sm2 but only 9 missions plus the fact that no matter how much you customise the characters they still mention they are ultramarines kinda takes me away sometimes

thin minnow
warm idol
#

plus deathwatch got some fancy gear

thin minnow
#

Take it or leave it

thick bear
warm idol
#

I want to use combi bolters

#

xenophase blades

#

artifex bolters

#

I want to see the corvus blackstar more

thick bear
#

Stretching the metaphor a bit there

#

Really stretching it

#

Gaping, you could say

fading yarrow
#

I regret everything

warm idol
#

alas it appears exterminatus is the only solution

fading yarrow
warm idol
#

also come to think of it

#

since most races need sex to breed

#

does that make slannesh the most powerful chaos god?

tall torrent
thick bear
#

Slaanesh is powered by lust, not by missionary for the sole purpose of procreation

tall torrent
#

Cuz these guys don’t have less power than the inquisition does

fading yarrow
warm idol
fading yarrow
#

Khorne and Nurgle are theoretically the strongest

tame lodge
#

Procreative sex is fair game

tall torrent
#

So like, a solid 60% of mission dialogue just won’t work when an arbites is in the team

warm idol
#

or maybe you are an arbites who went too much judge death

fading yarrow
thick bear
# tame lodge Procreative sex is fair game

Also maybe it's headcanon but isn't Slaanesh more powered by the crazy "drizzling drug-laced chocolate over the new orifice" lust, not the "I love my wife and I want to have babies with her" kind?