#veteran-class
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honestly i forget that pins even exist
fair
jepic
That was Jo wasn't it lmfso
Fatshark could change a cosmetic colour to purple and she'd say its GSC
i have commited to the degeneracy of putting a DevilClaw on a semi serious build to use on a mid havoc, any advice for which to use?
yes lol
brutal momentum + headtaker, use light atk + push atk mix
Remember to push and push attack, and are you sure you’re hitting breakpoints for brutal momentum?
When she put GSC as most likely for the teaser over arbites I was kinda like ❓ ❓ ❓
It has to be a running gag
Working up to getting perks unlocked for it. I'm rocking the blue Rashad with level 1 all for nothing.
u HAVE to have brutal momentum on it
light attack + push + counter attack. Got it.
without BM, it's unplayable
Ah yah don’t bother with Rashad until you hit level 30 and get a perfect roll
It’s really fucking good but also all or nothing
Can't I just level up the mastery and then Rebless it?
you need a specific mix of attributes to unlock one shot on first hit on horde enemies
Well I've just taken a lethal dose of cringe curtesy of build "feedback".
Time to dip
you posted your build and couldn’t handle perfectly civil feedback provided by two people. Idk what to say man 😭
darktide is full of braindead people nothing new
"perfectly civil feedback"
"this build is shit and you're an idiot because its not a completely different build"
what was the build in question?
its not what i like so its bad sorry
I don’t think we were being rude but I seems like they disagree lol
focus fire is excessive and doesnt help that much, precision strikes is more valuable than deadshot (specially with the lack of good stamina vet has), would take field improv for demolition team and since the main goal of the sniper mk4 helbore is to do hard hitting shots, would swap kark for frags for the aoe cc and horde clear
that's on a surface level
Don’t bother lol
We already told them the same thing
Just screenshot my message of the replacement
And send it
Sirosky made its choice: and its to call everyone and their builds maidenless
Hotshot is such a silly blessing
if it was literally 50 cleaving at least it would be funny
not so bad for mk5 I guess
aww
god i wish kark nades were god for something else but ogryn sandwitches
all the time i kill the target with something else
Good for bouncing off captains 
oh i HATE how useless they feel vs captains
idk if they actually do damage under the shield if you actually stick in between because its always better to shank the jerk to chain shield breaks
damned thing should insta break the shields
Yeah idk if they do
They just slide off and don’t seem to do shit
I do find it funny that the captains are basically immune to the kraks
charged thunderhammer to the shield? na damage capped
Yeah chain special against void shields is nice
yeah but it's still weird
I guess that's why Xaphan survived an Vindicare assassin at Vraks
man stole a void shield :p
Sweet Emperor almighty, that was a hard carry for you lot. But THANK YOU.
whats the best blessings for dueling sword?
also is your game on a hdd? 😭
Uncanny Riposte Precognition
With a side note on Rampage
i feel like riposte and precog are pretty situational, someone yesterday was telling me thrust and uncanny
Unfortunately yes. It's a hardware RAID setup, but I really oughta get an SSD.
is it like hard to dodge correctly and proc it? im not too good at this game still getting the hang of it
You see
Thrust requires a full charge to get the full value
You could've attacked twice by the time you release a full thrust heavy
It isn't bad
It's just that the alternative is better
i see i see
ill probably do uncanny and precog, i think itll synergize well
thank you for the advice @tame lodge
This thing I'm using, is a workstation model. It has dual Intel Xeons, 32GB of RAM, an Nvidia Quadro GPU and a hardware RAID controller. It's top of the line hardware from ~10 years ago, but not really something that's geared towards gaming. Could use a better GPU and an SSD to be honest.
Felt my knees physically age when I saw that lol
ahh that makes sense, I'm suprised it runs dt at all
It runs alright unless I happen to run into a rumblergryn with boxes of boom. Then it's framedrop city.
oh I guess you don't do Mortis Trials then lol
dear stealth vets
dont be like kinnia and just speedrun the mission ahead of everyone, leaving us behind
even as a knife zaelot player i dont go through drop downs or newer mission areas without waiting for my buddies behind me
sorry
stealth players are a different breed honestly
zoom
pain and suffering
Anyone know some good quickdraw revolver builds that would work in say aurics
(The funny speed shooter one)
@fleet wraith @tall torrent
now kiss
??
RT 3rd playthrough ended
What should I do next
Maybe I should go full heretic
See what all the fuzz is about
heretic story doesn't make sense
Iconoclast doesnt make sense either
u'd have gotten shot by argenta when u accepted "theodora" in prologue
Argenta is a dummy
Took her to commorogh for the achievement
Then got ulfar and just used him as a big man
for us, we didn't trust her because Iconoclast so we just had no clue what she did the entire time lol
sadly Arch-militant got giga-nerfed before we got to try her :c
Yeah I know
But funny Forgefiend though
ngl in my current run only mc and cassia goes
might change when fighting the act 5 bosses
nope
Just sweet talk everything
the home depot build
Even the elf at Janus
is the true iconoclast
hearing the stories of what an arch-militant could do sounds hilarious though :c
honestly it's actually not that hard if you're an Operator + Forgeworld origin
drill+malpian shroud
because you can make your speech scale off of Int
with warrior vanguard
and you also get more dodge
accidentally make a charisma build trying to make a sniper 
and mp
honestly that realy sums up how builds work in Rogue Trader
issue with forge world though is that really only calculated relations matters for an operator
true, really sucks otherwise :c
we tried to make an evasion psyker build -> accidentally make a psyker with more hp than a space marine
try to make a dps and accidentally make an unkillable tank
lasgun not bad for late game tbh
lasguns are honestly necessary on the higher difficulties
there's this 1 lasgun that does way more dmg if enemy armor is 60% or higher
isn't hecatons still better?
I know this got nerfed but god I miss this
talking abt burst lasguns
you can just wear both 
ah
I built my RT to be basically DT veteran equivalent
but then I can't run the double barrel
dual weapon combat, axe/mace + shotgun pistol, with burst lasgun
using the shovel?
somehow RT's shovel is a better act1 weapon than the actual shovel ever was in DT
oh yeah that's a funny one too
can't wait for arbites
DT shovel has 1 single purpose and it's gaslighting
double shotgun arch militant
melee weapons in RT are funny because they're like hilariously effective
sword vs chaos space marine? 800 damage
like the standard or all shovels?
all veteran shovels
clearly we need a power shovel
mk7 is my low investment problem solver
it's called smth smth tempest
Apparently you can find a Vet's body with 200 corpses around him somewhere on Rykad Minoris
+4xBS dmg vs enemies with 60% or more armor
idk abt finding his body
but u do get the shovel from a pile of bodies

oh what the fuck that's insane
lemme ss
slap that with a Sanctic Psyker + Assassin Operator
Implacable Tempest in Warhammer 40000: Rogue Trader: Stats, bonuses, proficiency, and where to find Implacable Tempest in this Warhammer Adventure!
and you're probably going like 1k damage per shot
oh yes this
this gun is cracked
and cassia because fishwife is overpowered
u have to basically bench cassia for fights to be challenging later on
Urfar flamer build + Operator RT + Cassia + Pasqal (damage buffer) + Jay + 1 Merc Psyker Officer
and I'm using a crappy weapon (witch staff)
I'm playing custom diff with +100% enemy wounds
and to think they had to nerf Cassia with 2 major nerfs
the charge on kill boots are broken action economy
and she's still insanely strong
officers are broken
sooo broken
Late game Heavy Bolter getting +1 RoF with every kill
And Muzzle Velocity
been using this Psyker helm on my Operator

see I could run that, but my witch staff is already getting 100% armor pen
still not sure why it isnt a force weapon

its such a bad weapon but it looks so cool
💀
nice
my char is an Assassin so I get infinite scaling from dodge
tbh the pen is useless too, its really just a crappy thunder hammer
the discombobulater
I wish I didn't look so stupid but stats are stats
If only I could transmog this...
also this thing as lowkey insane
I'm currently running artificer power armor, and default headgear (psyker)
with the witch staff, malpians, and the charge on kill boots
yeah it feels like any melee build in the late game needs a dagger for the 50 dodge reduct
otherwise the enemies just outscale my weapon skill :c
i had kibellah doing like 2k bleed stacks on last boss w it
your kibellah should have maxed weapon skill
that's the problem :c it is capped and I need more
I had to respec Ulfar into a flamer build because melee was like "50% chance to hit"
do some momentum screwery, oh now all of the kobs take 500% more dot damage
and have 20 stacks of each
also weapon skill doesnt help dodge reduct
but I think one of the exemplar talents help with that
indeed you need Agility for that
but Weapon Skill is so I can crit to make it worth it when I do hit
I'm a gambler at heart
yeah but we went Ulfar in our run :c
ah
mostly because last time we played, Ulfar was incomplete and shitty
yeah ulfar is better at ranged
so we're checking out his revised form
ulfar is still glitchy
yeah...
I made him a tank
seeing a space marine fail in melee vs cultists feels bad too
the terrifying squad is the all navigator squad with mods
tbh probaly THE most broken thing we have is this funny ring
executioner navigators are sooo nutty
nah, malpians
vanguards should not be the biggest damage dealers
and drills/saws should not be the best melee weapons
oh right the funny cloak
sadly the only Iconoclast we had is Abelard :c
and fucking Ulfar couldn't use it
yeah but we wanted to do his companion quests
because it was buggy and undoable when we first played
oh yeah I'm currently trying to do all of the campanion questions
but I think I broke the annoying elfs
I uhh went to sentinels pride without realizing he needed to be in the party
rip lol
Very based.
Real Veteran Hours
if only he could equip master duellist gloves
weapon skill is completely redundant with that 1 item
ranged crit hit = next atk always hits
ulfar's passives are so bad
strongest passive in the game might be jae's cold trader acumen
Hey guys I've just started playing again after taking a break. How do I craft a powersword 6 as brunts armoury is missing some things
Any powersword can be converted between mk3 and mk6 for free
God ikr so many annoying restrictions on space marines
Can't wait to replace him with the funny Death Cult Assassin
are combat knife good on veteran?
decent
Good yes, MK6 only.
I still consider it a meme even if it’s undeniably effective with the right build
That's the thing
It doesn't need a build
Best perks for Recon Lasgun?
Dum dum infernus
That is a blessing
Are the 25% Flak and Carapache not the best?
Flak maniac.
OKay thanks 🙂
I personally use crits flak.
You don't wanna shoot cara anyway.
Unless running onslaught memes.
Some prefer unyielding over flak/maniac to shred bosses.
But that's a taste thing and build dependent.
Can someone help me understand the difference between Shredders and Kraks and why you might choose each one?
Krak is for one single big thing
Shredders are for tons of small little things grouped up
Shredders do extremely good area damage against everything not ogryn sized and 2 will wipe a room in 90% of cases
Kraks are long fuse sticky grenades that instantly kill all enemies besides bosses when they go off, and they heavy stagger bosses and drop like 5k damage
Grouped up?
The thing hits the entire room easily. XD
And activates all the barrels in it.
ALL.
They are grouped in a room 🙂
The room is now the group
I feel like my plasma gun doesn't do that much damage, it's barely able to take on 1/4 of a boss's healthbar
any suggestions?
Ask path when they are around
They’ll throw 3 pages of information at you
Should be enough
its not meant for shooting bosses

Plasma is a point and click adventure for anything that is taggable and not a boss
It can definitely do good damage to a boss, but really ammo inefficient
Needs precise hedshots then as well.
Use Get's Hot + Rising Heat blessings (or Get's Hot + Blaze Away if you are really efficient at landing weakspot hits).
If using Rising Heat, fire till 100% Heat, vent once, fire 2 shots at maximum efficiency and wax on / wax off. If using Blaze Away you heatdump (remember to hit weakspot hits) completely each time.
Ensure you have following talents: Precision Strikes, Bring it Down, Focus Target (maybe Focused Fire too).
Bonus points for things like Agile Engagement, Longshot, Kill Zone (if they are available for you build). You can also stack Close Quarters Killzone with For the Emperor!
Plasma gun is not effective against bosses 
It's ok at bosses but you need to hit weak spots to do anything
what's the recomended weapon then?
and why does everyone say the plasma gun is op?
is that a old meta?
Because the plasma gun is still a point and click adventure for literally everything else
Still the best all around gun Vet has.
Great ammo economy w/ huge mag, nice breakpoints, can't be suppressed, infinite cleave, good swap speed
Bosses aren't really a big deal for a decent team
ok ok
Bolters with a good boss damage build 
- foreshadowing *
my veteran already has a shock maul and a pistol. if im getting arbites I'm probably gonna use the same name as him
Is there any way to make weapon swapping to bolter faster?
Most people run exe stance to counter that, since it immediately pulls out your ranged
Using the node at the top right of the tree
I am but it doesn’t help when I wanna clear trash or sudden enemies with my melee and then swap back quick and that happens a lot 
are any of the las guns meta they're fun
I made my RT kill full health word bearer space marine within 1 burst from that tempest lasgun

At +100% enemy wounds in custom diff btw
noob question but what makes the dueling sword so powerful? is there anything specific or just overtuned stats?
Comically unbalanced Rogue Trader
Overtuned stats
It’s a stat stick
Much like every overpowered weapon in the game
It has negligible complexity
It’s simpler than every other melee weapon on offer
which mark of dueling sword is the glazed one
so mk2?
You can do animation cancels.
one of them is, swap to bolter, start reload, start sprint, stop sprint, gun should be usable. Does require that your mag isnt full so you can reload
If you want to learn the combos
If you don't
Mk4
It'll just work
Because while the DS horde clearing isn't top tier
It is pretty safe
Because you can kill one groaner/walker per swing while having 4.5 cleave on lights
So you can hit 4-5 groaners/walkers per swing
💀
up to 3 poxwalkers
poxwalker is 1.5 mass in base game
Lmao the cut off
Thought it was 1.25
groaner is 1.25
Aw shit
it was so funny when I first saw it
chaos marine is 70% armor so my gun dealt like 50 smth extra base dmg with VoC buff on
@slow spade
It's also very weird how one of the shots from the burst goes on a random tangent
rapid fire makes shots go in random directions
and I didn't build my RT for recoil reduction
I gave him master duellist gloves so I can completely ignore weapon skill
Smh
Not rate of fire maxxing with the equipment that totally ignores recoil
I built argenta for that
tho I'm ngl
this lasgun kind of kills better than the heavy boltgun I have rn
Add a Master Tacticians Inspire
I was about to start a 4th playthrough
Then I noticed that I got spoiled by Sanctioned Psyker Rogue Trader
They are just too good

I'll consider a grimdark playthrough after I finish this one
but then again I have a guide to work on

Think I'll just buy Void Shadows and go for it on my 4th
I'm thinking
Fortress World Soldier into Arch Militant
So I can spam burst
I'm doing fortress + crime lord + soldier + AM
it's prob the best dps outside of psyker?
mace/axe + shotgun pistol
with lasgun secondary
I'm ngl kinda disappointed by bolt weapons on offer
with dedicated demolition spec I hit for ~300 on 1 shotgun crit
I think I'll go telepath this time
I've seen what pyro, santic, divination, bio can do
Can't wait to order the screamer on Kiava Gamma to attack his teammates and he summons 500 heralds and horrors

fourstone - janus - dargonus - vheabos VI - kiava gamma
did dargonus earlier because that allows cassia meeting earlier
Maybe I should side with the elves on Janus this time
I made alliance with them but didn't let them rule
that just seems like the best resolution tbh
they're so fked in the head they couldn't save their own world, and they have the gall to conspire to rule human world
plus they're eldar so they're automatically inferior to humans
choosing not to exterminate them is already an incredible mercy
💀
eldar actually deserve the worst of everything ngl
egomaniacs who can't accept their own faults
the only based eldar are harlequins
nocturne of oblivion is cool
truth nvke
Real
Although I expected some daemons to fight
yrliet was like "but ur strenthening another enemy" and I'm like "yes and?"
drukhari literally already feed directly into slaanesh
Never forget that Angron is the Eldar's fault
any plasma vet for havoc 40 eu?
Is there a way to romance Yrliet before act3
Foresees that Angron will cause mayhem
Tries to kill him as a baby
Get merced
The sound of the confrontation gets Angron discovered and Nailed
Imagine the emotional impact of choosing your kind or your love

Listen, I know what I said when Yremisswhatever soft locked my game
But that was on the heat of battle
Crap I knew I forgot something on kiava gamma
See I didnt do it because its a waste of time
Cumarag probably wouldnt even feel it
but to be honest fuck act 3
some drukhari would and that's good enough to me
True true
Cant wait to run heretic so I can just give up yrliets soulstone to slaanesh
I'm having a hard time deciding between siding with vladym or incendia
Vladym ez
but ryzza is actually a heretic
I realized I fked over having secret companion achivement when I sent food to footfall then proceeded to go dogmatic
Incendia is a sick person
I redeemed winterscale
Who would leave footfall in ruins, so that dangerous xenos items are hidden in the shadows
Like if the halo device is given to vladym, do you think he is going to sell it to anyone but the inquisition?
With the kasabillica gone heresy will increase
Just side with Incendia, easy
Also you can terrify ryzza into... not going heretic

Its what my dogmatic did
how

I don't think I had that?
is it before starting incendia fight or after
cuz she just dies after
Before
that's iconoclast I think
Huh, I was dogmatic
yea I can't do it
it needs iconoclast 3
I'm at dogmatic 4 alrdy lol
Did you agree to fight chorda?
Because it only pops up after you agree
Same with heuronymous
oh lemme try
You have to agree, then look around
Iconoclast I think lets you get chorda as a companion oddly enough
Huh, something about "heretics will eventually burn"
As dogmatic she just wants to follow another faithful of the emperor
Did you maybe fail the awareness check?
no
I passed it
that's how I know she's gotta go
And nothing in the dialogue tree about heretics being hunted down
there is
but it's iconoclast
and I dogmatic'd myself out of that
No iconoclast is warning her about the amulet, dogmatic was threatening
Hol up imma fire it up in toybox
My iconoclast "xenofugger" will not be doing that
Still exterminatused the planet though
these 2
bruh
I clicked 1-3
I think?
Mutants okay?
alright ends with her just being a pirate then not.... that
where do u find this
that was in toybox
but you can check the flags
Navigators?
Why you fugging muties bruh
I needed to fix broken flags like twice in my run
yea where in toybox
fish wife good life
etudes?
Fish wife...
Now Navigators are just a different strain of human
search and pick is generally where I go, but etudes work too
should be in chap 4 I think
They ARE mutants
And segs with a navigator would probably mentally scar you for weeks
No their abby humans
(worth it)
*Sanctioned
Rogue trader called them a kind of mutants

But sanctioned
This is slandar against the departmento munitorum
Is that Spanish
The lex is coming for the rogue trader
His spurious remarks will be added on top of his tax evasion
I can't find it
Wait are you looking for the dialogue trees?
Cuz thats in the dialogue tab when talking with someone
can I enable smth from a dialogue that I already passed through
No idea tbh
If you can tell me how because I spent hours on cassias quest figuring out where it broke
(Apparently her character flags were not incrementing for some reason while doing the romance so she just got possesed)
I'm ngl
as fucked up as it is
Chorda is mostly in the right
Not really
Hieronymus has no faith, only fear of death
Ryzza is a heretic
Vladaym is the only normal person here
Shes a manchurian candidate who went off the rails due to her canniablism
Heironymus also made chorda
yes but he's so easily converted into nurgle worship it's crazy
shouldn't the reverend have more faith than most
Because the faith of saint druses is compatible
And tbh druses may have been q nurgle champion

Like the saint in the first grey knights book
Anyway his faith doesnt really change if he goes to nurgle vs the dogmatic way
He can be a nurglite?
That's news to me
Although I should be more concerned about his past
Damn, I really tuned him out

Oh yeah he is.... important to the plot
For chorda at least (he turned her nuts)
And he is already like halfway to being a nurgle cultist
he killed chorda people and turned incendia into a monster for his own "faith"
and somehow after all that he can still be easily swayed to join chaos
Yeah I know about the cryo chambers
even more so than the moebian 6th in DT
at least the moebians were getting bent over
he just casually goes "well I guess the grandfather is pretty nice"
And so he either gets corrupted to nurgle, and preaches to the needy
Or becomes repentent and preaches to the needy
I think siding with chorda is the better decision
even though
siding with vladaym gives better loot because chorda drops some cool stuff
Thing is yoy can control vladaym
Its less so him controlling footfall, but you controlling footfall
And he pretty much becomes an inquisitorial agent
side note
it's funny that kibellah cannot pick psychic awakening in exemplar
Too much drugs
You mean with the blood emporer and shit
I think super early on there's an awareness check where ur RT figures out that she's unaware of her own ability
yea
only a psyker can read emperor's tarot
TBF in all my playthroughs, reverend got leprosy and went blind
I think the worst part abt this all is
if u side with vladaym u cannot fuck over the 2 actual borderline heretics
Mine he became strong
Chorda makes yrliet, argenta, and heinrix agree on something
calligos was also way cooler of a character ngl
he actually solo'd a bloodthirster and won
incredible feat for a mortal human
Tbf he is only half mortal at that point
Hes heavily blessed by khorne
And killing the bloodthirster makes him lose his blessings making him parapalegic
yea but he still won
True
beating a bloodthirster in melee is a big achievement
chorda could never be this cool
not after u side with vladaym
[Dogmatic] That's cool
But yeah threatening her makes her just a normal pirate
In the ending slides
Icono you redeem her and she becomes a merc and may die depending on some other choices you made.
ryzza has no good ending
she either gets executed by you, or by imperial navy, or goes to rob the explorators and get curbstomped by the blessed amarnat and their 300000 plasma guns
or becomes a full blown heretic
I'm gonna side with chorda
ryzza needs to get purged

Based cannibalism
Anyway you can also change the footfall food etude to recruit her in act 5
I don't think sending food locks you out
Sending chaos infested food does though
Because on my 3rd playthrough I had Hecaton and the choice to recruit chorda showed up
Uh
The same chaplain that tries to burn you alive?
💀
Fidelio quest was an interesting one
The chaplain was the only one not trying to kill you
That was an administratum clerk
Hmmmm
I will recheck on my 4th playthrough
If you identify as RT before arriving on Footfall, Anvers do some crowd shooting
That's not cool at all
Thunderhammer anver fight was my first wipe
never mind I proc'd that "make ryzza pay" one
shame that siding with vladaym means 30 less conviction points
Not gonna like vladyam was the most competant governer Ive seen in rogue trader
yea
I still think siding with chorda is the better choice in the long term
even though vladaym doesn't deserve what happens to him
I should stop antagonizing governors
actually no
clementia werserian is pretty competent
abelard's daughter
astaria (his granddaughter) also pretty competent
any autopistol enjoyers?
Thats the thing, she isnt the governer
Gaprak is
semi auto pistol?
Shredder Auto Pistol
yes
It got buffed recently
Good enough to one mag bosses on a decent build
running and gunning makes me feel like a boss
what would its variants look like if it had
I want DOT bullets
It would be just another infantry autogun
So Vraks5
Btw, any speedshooter enjoyers know a good build for it?
Bleeding bullets and a blessing
oh right she's chancellor
drivstem is governor
Yeah that only proves my point more

Saddest part of the abelard ending is his family turning into the same crappy nobility you see
Me
ive come to enjoy autopistol with an exec + MMF build
its sort of silly but fun if you can keep your ammo count up
I love the autpistol, best nonlethal option vet has
Havent played it since buff
Shotguns dont have the funny spasms that autopistol does
Ever just sprayed a mauler?
Funniest shit ever
ive sprayed a mauler and then some:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIZExK8dsno
Its moreso the spazzing like they are being hit by a tazer
Would yell tazer tazer and just shoot a scab rager in the head for a mag
Anyway, any idea on the breakpoints for the 6 shooter?
yo any pro vet smoke here? if i smoke gunners horde they are blind and they cant shoot us or we have to smoke us?
If they're in an area you want to flush them out of, throw smokes on them, if you want to cover yourself and your team from ranged fire then toss it on yourself
alright ty for the tips
I got a video for you
Lol
Havoc 40 Quad Vet Smokes. Home Made Vent Purge, Loyalist Friendly
4 vets all with smokes, havoc 40
Pro smoker
aight ty
Think smoke as a psyker bubble if you put it on yourself they might still shoot but will miss
It's better to throw it on top of them so they are confused
the vapelord
yer a shotgun
Has someone like path made a comparative of how much damage difference is between Disrupt destiny and Marksman Focus? They feel a little similar but DD seems to give FAR more damage bonuses that are not only ranged but also melee
MMF isn't great sadly. It's okay on certain weapons but the whole don't move schtick is annoying as hell. Easy enough to get stacks back but it feels so counterintuitively designed
Ok that's not what he's looking for
MMF is 75% finesse
DD is 15% Dmg, 30% CRIT damage, 37.5% weakspot damage
Now you just need to do the math
The math is the hardest part though

that weapon swap speed node should give at least a 50% boost. Right now it feels like it has 0 impact.
Oh ok it's +
You know
I might take a crack at it later
Even have a vigilant for real time comparison
True
Why do people like the plasma gun? I really dislike it's crosshair and the charge req. Plus it's got such little ammo conservation.
It doesn't even do that much damage I'm getting a top of 800 damage not crit
3-4 shots into a crusher pack adn they lay dead
Let me know if you do it, me scared of math, make bonehead thingy in head go BOOM
Blaps heavies
So is it best to use it on heavily armored units? Also what if a monstrosity challenges me to a 1v1 or I have to pick off spec/elites
shoot specials
Depends on how you prefer to use it, I like using it for both heavy killing and for sniping
and mosnters
Iirc you can oneshot ragers with a headshot with it, 2 shot muties I think?
I was doing more damage with a chainsword than the plasma gun on monstrositys
undestandalbe
still is to a extent
Alpha is higher on plasma but the sustained dps is dogwater with the pause between shots
Go to settings, interface, u can change crosshair type
@tame lodge I got to the point where einrich does some trolling

Your alpha strikes will be better than most anything else
if I don't pick the survivalist aura for vet, does the basic scavenger aura you get regardless still have the 5 second cooldown?
No
No, the aura you choose replaces the basic one
Before survivalist nerf
I'm saying if I pick no aura, I automatically get the basic ammo regen aura regardless of the fact that I didn't take the one that grants 1% ammo every 5 seconds. i'm curious if that default aura also has a 5 second cooldown for regenerating ammo or if it's uncapped.
I could replenish ×3 more ammo from 1 shot than i used
One shot machine with high af cleave
even if its uncapped youre forced to choose one for proper build
Just normal shot spam all day
people use it as a specialist/elite killer
like a revolver on steroids
just whip it out and let it cleave through any horde
trapper/flamer at the tail end of an enemy horde? no problem just one shot and they are dead alongside any unlucky bastard that was inbetween you and them
a conga line of shotgunners? gone, reduced to atoms
Mandrakes fight ?
Revolver is better as a 1 shotter in non-havoc
I just wish the charged plasma shot had more oomph
atm it just feels inferior to normal shots outside of terrain penetration
I'll gladly sacrifice all my perks for a plasma with infinite ammo
I say this as all my characters can move quintillion times in round 1
rogue trader?
yeah you can make some absolutely broken characters with that
my first playthrough I was an officer and abelard and argenta were just tearing through everything
Took a while to find but yes, basic aura does have the 5 second cooldown
idk if they nerfed her since I last played but I remember her mogging every other character, even ulfar
ulfar was sadly underwhelming on launch and I hope they buffed him since then
hes good now iirc
abelard did melee tanking better and argenta did shooting better
I love how I had some chaos marine monologuing and when the fight started I just had argenta shred him
Also the perk isn't 1% ammo every 5 seconds, it's 1% ammo on elite/specialist kill with a 5 second cooldown, the basic aura is I believe 0.75% ammo?
HIGH MOMENTUM
thx
yrliet also had crazy single shot damage
had quite the op party
also have you finished it?
what are your thoughts on the acts?
imo act 2 and 4 are the best
act 1 is alright
No
act 3 and 5 felt really undercooked
altho act 3 gets points for letting you see commoragah
Act2 is good
Act4 writing is way better but so far quite buggy
is it still buggy over a year later?
Act 1 is aight, act 2 good
I don't mind act3 but it's quite short
like I remember launch being UBER buggy
Act3 pacing is too fast for the number of important decisions u have to make in there
I had to use cheats to get past some bugs in act 5 on release
That’s my main complaint
I’m just going to keep waiting until the game is done before i try it lol
I've only got to the planet where you get Yrliet, I like it but I hate that the game fills out your roster with every role possible in act 1 and makes your RT feel like a third wheel, Heinrix can be a healer, Abelard can be a tank, Pasqal can be shooty, and Idira can be fertilizer
Also apparently u can’t get cassia true romance unless u put her through act 3?
you gonna need to wait for a while longer then since they announced 2 more dlc's
another idira hater
we hate idira in this house
Yeah I’m not in a rush
She feels so meh
she's just annoying
Ngl I don't have the highest hopes for it since they messed up on that from the get go
and a massive hypocrite
Tabletop Dark Heresy is you play as Interrogators, but they're having you play as the Inquisitor this time around
bitches and moans about how the imperium treats psykers while also being a prime example of why you dont want an unsanctioned psyker
if I had to guess from the footage
you play as the interrogators during the actual planetisde missions
while your inquisitor hangs aboard the ship
I just don't like her because she's an operative and a psyker and can't decide if she's a support or a damage
since correct me if im wrong but from the trailer we didn't see the inquisitor planetside?
we only saw the warband
Ya
Inquisitor is pulling a grendyl tier move
Leaving everything to expendable underlings

"Take on the mantle of an Inquisitor, and use every tool at your disposal to root out corruption, sedition and heresy, bringing the Emperor's wrath to those who would see the Imperium fall."
Also mentions the puritan vs radical split
since the title art has both an eldar and a kroot as part of your group
yeah but I meant like
in the exploration/combat thing
it's your warband that does it
you hang around the ship giving orders
Depends
Some inquisitors are more in the middle
Can only say “not fully puritan”
true
prolly gonna be like rogue trader where you can choose how purtian or radical you want to be
Let me be a Horusian Inquisitor
would be funny if they just let us go full radical and use daemonhosts
Idk that's up in the air, some Inquisitors stay on the ship like Grendyl and just play with their plastic miniatures and scheme in a non-Tzeentchian way, others are boots on the ground kicking doors
In fact go one step further
yeah it varies but from the footage we saw it seems more like the former
but we don't know much
we shall see
Recruit Steve the flayed one into his warband
Why not
What could possibly go wrong
maybe you will control your inquisitor in combat only in missions where shit really hits the fan
since y'know inquistors tend to carry around some serious firepower
Wish they would've done Dark Crusade instead so I could play a heretek and become Vashtorr's darling little daemon prince boy
Some inquisitors casually transporting a DH aboard their ships
I hope we get consequences for going down fully down a certain path
like pissing off an inquisitor on the other end of the spectrum
imagine being so radical you get the fucking grey knights called down upon you
I wonder if dark heresy’s player character is gonna be Ordo malleus or hereticus
I’m guessing hereticus?
prolly hereticus
It's in the Calixis sector so probably Hereticus?
altho if we get malleus it would be pretty sick if we get something like a lategame grey knight companion
xenos is a major doubt
but imagine deathwatch
there's an entire radical subfaction of the ordo xenos based in the calixis
They had a xenos book for 2nd edition so maybe
plus we get both a kroot and an eldar companion
all ordos can fit
also man next month is packed with 40k stuff
dlc for darktide and rogue trader
horde mode for sm2
Where's Eternal Crusade 2 : (
never sadly
even though a 40k planetside game is something out of my wettest dream
eternal crusades journey was a very sad one
Miss that game even if it felt schizophrenic
I backed it and had such high hopes
but as time went on
I was like "nah it's not gonna be finished"
especially considering the most playable it has ever been it was a smaller scale team shooter
as opposed to the grand scale we were promised
with massive factions clashing
infantry engaging in ranged and melee
tanks fighting
aircraft flying
like planetside
Chaos Sorcerers felt so weird in it, wasn't one of the healing powers they had like some kind of aoe healing bomb?
which is another game I haven't played in ages
I think last time I played planetside was back in like 2018
I remember when they announced planetside arena lmao
that didn't last long
And the Slaanesh power was some weird thing where you'd tether to another player and give them extra movement and melee speed?
I didn't play chaos I played muhreens
I remember eldar being
op and cancer asf though!
gave me ptsd to dawn of eldar
EC is just such a shame
just makes me imagine what would have been
Other factions had jump packs/raptorae/rokkits but only eldar could hover in the air and just blast everyone
40k is bigger than ever and I imagine these days a large scale planetside like 40k game would have been quite popular
Eh idk if it'd really be possible without upsetting either the power fantasy gremlins or the lore purists
it's a video game I think it's gonna upset both regardless
With marines as heroes and shit
Like, SMs versus lost and damned would be a slaughter and unfun for LoD
most normal humans are aware that you can't completely make a game lore accurate without making some stuff just unfun
But if you don't have SMs you'd get people whining about "I wanna play as one"
honestly if you gonna include stuff like the guard in a game like this
that's a good way to fit in marines
and other strong factions
otherwise you kinda need to have the guardsmen as npc's and the marines as the players
but for a battlefront/battlefield esque game
guardsmen fit the bill much better
C'mon dice make it
due to stuff like vehicles and ttk
Lord no
Do well enough as a guard, unlock marine that match
I don't trust dice after 2042
Do you really want to pay for lootboxes I mean "reliquaries"
Idec anymore I want it
The joke is sex
Huh
Tethering. Speedy movements.
I like sm2 but only 9 missions plus the fact that no matter how much you customise the characters they still mention they are ultramarines kinda takes me away sometimes
Space marine deathwatch cosmetic bundle for 1 class that you can't customize
plus deathwatch got some fancy gear
Take it or leave it
... I dunno what kind of sex you have but usually there's no running involved
I want to use combi bolters
xenophase blades
artifex bolters
I want to see the corvus blackstar more
There is speed involved
I regret everything
alas it appears exterminatus is the only solution

also come to think of it
since most races need sex to breed
does that make slannesh the most powerful chaos god?
I’m genuinely curious how arbites will fit into DT story

Slaanesh is powered by lust, not by missionary for the sole purpose of procreation
Cuz these guys don’t have less power than the inquisition does
No, since it's the youngest
I guess slannesh just cringes at that thought
Nuh uh
Khorne and Nurgle are theoretically the strongest
Procreative sex is fair game
So like, a solid 60% of mission dialogue just won’t work when an arbites is in the team
maybe grendyl just requistioned you as another member of the warband
or maybe you are an arbites who went too much judge death
Any examples off the top of your head? I wager I can make a good chunk of interactions work
Also maybe it's headcanon but isn't Slaanesh more powered by the crazy "drizzling drug-laced chocolate over the new orifice" lust, not the "I love my wife and I want to have babies with her" kind?



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