veteran-class

[void dragon]

ogryn with one of his boxes with 6 grenades: puny soldier toy

[grand perch]

im not puny im just small boned

[void dragon]

you need more brown milk lil one

[elder vessel]

I think

infinite ammo

is highly overrated

If you use your brain as well as your ammo, you probably won't run out for atleast 90% of the run

[void dragon]

veteran default skillset and weaponry doesnt lack much on ranged damage, its melee capacity is kinda low but its CC capacity is DESPERATLY in need of frags cc and shout to be in a horde shooter

[unreal nova]

Unless Havoc. You might not run out, but everyone but the psyker will if you selfishly refuse to bring survivalist.

[hexed wave]

smell my finger

[void dragon]

the finger that was used to send the Pogryn to the void

[boreal void]

I gotta say, the Marksman keystone feels pretty good to me.

[tame lodge]

Your feelings for it
Are not real

[boreal void]

The machine spirit speaks to me

Says it's good

[calm shard]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-cat-mewing-mewing-meme-cat-staring-cat-gif-6979404450990708267

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-force-unleashed-gif-23620078

[void dragon]

I see we have some fellow psykers letting their dreams show what they want than what it is

[boreal void]

Shooting heads feels good

[void dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-tf2-sniper-tf2-meet-the-sniper-team-fortress2-gif-23137486

[boreal void]

I'll get back to you in about three weeks when I get around yo trying out a second keystone.

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-avengers-finally-someone-who-speaks-english-captain-america-tony-stark-gif-17147260

[void dragon]

is that what just happened?

[grand perch]

this guy gets it

[hollow ibex]

new havoc meta 🔥

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ee41e34-a952-4c23-9b90-9f6284b0dc57/stamina-edger

psykers peril edge, vets stamina edge

(because vets never have any stamina anyway)

[void dragon]

Why is shovel, and that particular mk, meta?

[manic badger]

Guy was criticizing this build for the recon lasgun told me to go down and take weapon specialist with the 20% toughness on swap instead? is that real?

recon lasgun havoc build

[hollow ibex]

it's a meme build, synergizing vet's dogshit stamina economy + deadshot + All or Nothing (bonus str on low stam) on mk1 shovel (relies on push attack for single target)

there's actually some pretty insane synergy here

but the damage potential still isn't great ofc lol

[hollow ibex]

keystoneless recon is perfectly valid

though normally for keystoneless recon, you take desperado > 25 toughness > trench fighter

i am also a huge onslaught hater personally

[manic badger]

I've never taken this before in any build is it actually good

[void dragon]

Recon with onslaught is decent with infernus, but not necessarily the best alternative

[hollow ibex]

it's... ok

most builds rarely have the points for it tho

[manic badger]

what do you replace onslaught with?

[hollow ibex]

cuz vet's taxed like a billionaire in the EU

[hollow ibex]

desperado > 25 toughness > trench fighter

[void dragon]

Taking focus fire is a good option, that keystone is damage for all your team

[hollow ibex]

and a rashad or PS so you can still fight carapace

[manic badger]

That guy also told me not to take Shock Trooper

on a recon lasgun build

[void dragon]

He is not a hater, but a misinformation reject

[hollow ibex]

tbf

shock trooper is kinda overkill if you have survivalist too

you could take both surv and shock trooper, but you're better served by using melee more

[void dragon]

Yeah but it keeps you from needing almost any ammo, ergo you can support another gunner class, even a rumbler lugger, while you handle smaller enemies and specialists so he can save ammo for crowded concentrations of enemies

[hollow ibex]

it's not a bad take

i wouldn't ding anyone for wanting to take shock trooper

... unless they're not running a las weapon

[void dragon]

It's a tested take, genuinely a good support class the veteran is

The point in this is that the guy is running a recon, but I don't get why the other makes a fuzz about it anyway

[manic badger]

Said my build was bad but told me to take weapon specialist and also had me not taking survivalist while also not taking shock trooper

I humored him and did his build on a talent calc

[hollow ibex]

oh ok that's just all bad advice then

i mean you could skip both surv and shock trooper, not the end of the world

[void dragon]

"not taking survivalist" Ok that's all the evidence needed, that's a full troll

[hollow ibex]

but usually not a great idea since you should be pathing for frags anyway

[void dragon]

Was this a case where there was another veteran with survivalist?

[manic badger]

I just recently came back to playing in the last 2 weeks so I'm catching up on some tweaks etc to vet tree like catch your breath now being deactivated only when being hit instead of it being proximity like it used to

So I thought he understood some tech I didn't

[manic badger]

Nah it was a guy not playing veteran

[void dragon]

He doesn't know what he is doing then, worth ignoring his "advice" if you ask me

[manic badger]

I figured it was bad but I've been wrong enough to double check so I asked

thanks for confirmation

[void dragon]

Wise of you to check to learn mate, good luck out there

[boreal void]

Not sure what I'm doing when it comes to the upgrade system in this game. Does this look right or wrong?

[sharp epoch]

so basically most weapons you want the mobility to be 60 while all the other stats are 80

also for perks you should take the damage types, flak 25% and maniac 25% are the most common perks and safest picks

[sharp epoch]

deadly accurate is good, but needs to be ran with headhunter blessing because the damage only applies to criticals + weakspots

otherwise you could go like ghost + no respite/opening salvo

[boreal void]

Good to know

[boreal void]

Didn't realize this

Thank you. The machine spirits in my lasgun will benefit from you

[signal zinc]

Get infernus

Clense the heretics with holy fire

[magic trout]

Which shovel blessings should i use?
Uncany + ??

[unreal nova]

Decimator+Skullcrusher.

Is for mk3 specifically. 2 folding heavy to kill crushers.

You can choose to go Uncanny with one of those if preferred though.

[empty plover]

Is longshot used with double barrel?

or am I better of picking 25% ammo, if the choice was between the two?

[unreal nova]

I'm actually serious. You can try it out yourself. Decimator does require that you not miss a hit though. Skullcrusher works on vet folding shovels especially well if you can hit crusher heads with it.

[magic trout]

?

[unreal nova]

The thinking emote.

Over explaining stuff basically.

[magic trout]

I was thinkin which to choose 😅

[unreal nova]

Or skip uncanny, use those.

Unless inferno recon stuff.

[grand perch]

Please tell me you're not actually thinking of putting longshit on a db shotgun of all things

[viral chasm]

what is you guys recommend for weapon specialist pairs

[dry cloak]

reolver, bistol, double barrel.

[viral chasm]

oh the heavy revolver sounds nice

to snipe ranged/special

[lucid crest]

db weapon specialist is kinda just like

a bit annoying to play lol

[magic trout]

Plasma, bolt pistol, DB shotgun, shotguns, laspitol, braced/infantry AUG.

[frank basin]

Boltgun is slow for weapon specialist

[magic trout]

My error. Edited

[agile forge]

You can use Plasma with weapon specialist really well too iirc

[frank basin]

They do

[lucid crest]

https://tenor.com/view/trunkmonkey-saucelessss-soheb-monkey-gif-27536133

i pinged a group of maulers with a full ogryn team and i felt like the dude in the car

[west edge]

commissar with his ogryn squad

[cunning haven]

quick question, on Shock Maul "Falter" blessing gives "Increased stagger on enemies by +60%, on Weakspot hit. Additionally, increases ranged stagger strength by +30%."
Does this mean that it buffs my gun?

[midnight wyvern]

TY

[red robin]

Doesn’t apply, only the version of the blessing on a ranged weapon that applies to ranged attacks

Falter on the shock maul only effects your melee weapon

What increased stagger by 60-90% translates into in-game code is reducing enemy stagger thresholds by 60-90%

On headshot

Dreg ragers whilst attacking have 50 stagger resist, on headshot it’s 25, and with the 4th tier falter blessing it becomes 2.5

Heavy 1 on the shock maul 8.73 stagger so it’ll knock ragers out of their combo

Read that off of kulis steam guide

Good resource for quick reference

[cunning haven]

thanks

description is very misleading unfortunately

[dry cloak]

falter on shockamul saves lives

[dry cloak]

its not really

[cunning haven]

what is ranged stagger strength on a melee weapon?

[dry cloak]

where does it say RANGED in the description

[cunning haven]

before stagger

[dry cloak]

ah

they just ported if from lasgun 1 for 1

i genuinly missed it

my bad

[paper totem]

Hi guys, quick question

[tame lodge]

Yeah exactly what happened lol

[void dragon]

Question: if you ever get in a situation with a bunch of ragers and no team or ammo, do you just die? With most weapons it feels that you don't survive at all vs ragers

Melee vet so far doesn't feel that safe

[dry cloak]

yes unless devilclaw

[dry cloak]

yep?

[cunning haven]

i tried a shovel with impact blessings in psychanium it looks like it could send em flying but i havent tested it properly

[void dragon]

I mean, it's fair trade to be absolutely incapable to do much of anything else, man the veteran doesn't feel that likes melee weapons

[tame lodge]

Just dodge (there's really nothing you can do in that situation)

[void dragon]

Tried shovel a few times and it usually doesn't stagger them that effectively

At least in H40

[cunning haven]

damn

did u try both impact blessings

[void dragon]

No, so maybe there is a chance for that, but it would make it's clear abysmal

[cunning haven]

i could knock over a mauler with it

[grand perch]

a pack of ragers catching you with your pants down is bad for sure. dodging and trying to use the terrain to seperate them or slow some down at least is what i'd do

[cunning haven]

i could handle 3 or 4 ragers at a time with the old bayonet. you could stun lock em and keep distance

[grand perch]

but with tac axe, you can stagger them well soooo...

[void dragon]

Need to stop my orgyn and FGS Psyker brain from trying to kill them on melee, it really doesn't work huh?

[tame lodge]

Depends on your melee really

But it's just best to shoot them yah

[void dragon]

Oops! No stamina, you ded

[grand perch]

impossibru i always eat my veggies

[tame lodge]

Or you learn your stagger breakpoints and deal with ragers

[void dragon]

Don't you know being a veteran means you have asthma?

[cunning haven]

i feel lost without my bayonet 😭 i miss it so much

[void dragon]

It is there, it's just garbo

What's the ObeseFish vision for putting a beefy 10% melee damage hidden under the smoke nades? Why is it better than the one far more into the tree?

[tame lodge]

Heh seems like most melee weapons are able to stagger ragers

I should definitely take a better look at the guide later

[void dragon]

The thing is staggering them while they are swinging, they have far more stagger resistance when actually fighting

[tame lodge]

Yeah the guide got the combo part covered

Why's the stagger breakpoints at the very bottom though

😭

I like how the Dueling Sword section is just

Special

[void dragon]

The dueling sword privilege

[manic badger]

People are gonna lose their shit if it gets nerfed in that alleged upcoming massive weapon balance change

and I'm gonna lose my shit if they don't change the draw time on helbore

[grand perch]

monkey paw wish granted

it will get changed...to be longer

[agile forge]

You can probably eat them alive with a chain axe or tac axe

[tame lodge]

The only thing I want to see nerfed on the DS is the cleave on lights

It would kill Rampage on DS4

But that's ok

[void dragon]

Can I have that monkey paw to ask for Exe stance to replace MMf and we can get a new skill to pull a light machinegun Rambo style like in the art?

[manic badger]

that's already in the game just play ogryn

download a mod that makes you look like a vet there u go problem solved

[void dragon]

Every other class should strive to be orgyn

[manic badger]

that would require playtesters that care about any other class

[grand perch]

wish granted but you only get a single belt of ammo like rambo and are also less accurate than gunlugger ogryn

also exec replaced MMF but you now need to stand still or exec is cancelled

[tired phoenix]

How does the Ranged Crit part of Weapon Specialist actually work?

Single shot, from what I can see, but is it additional crit? A multiplier on your base? The wording is terrible. 😦

[void dragon]

The first part seels ok since it's supposed to be a skill with a CD, but it performing worse than the krourk twins stubber?! That's really evil

[dry cloak]

single crit

[tired phoenix]

How does the crit % work? is it just straight up added so 3 stacks = 100% crit?

[dry cloak]

after 3 stacks guaranteed crit

[tired phoenix]

Okay, so either Plasma Gun doesn't get 100% crit from that, or Adept Assassin is just bugged with it, idk

Its weird, stack three times, get the headshot kill marker, no progress.

[normal bay]

Did you hit the right enemy?

There is a requirement, I can't remember which. Elite maybe?

[dry cloak]

nope

it gets a crit when you have 3 stacks or more

[tired phoenix]

Hmm.

It works sometimes, I'm just gonna stop going for pen kills as those seem to just not be reliable. Slow and steady and all that.

Close, kill, and do it again, etc.

[elder vessel]

like how much are we talking like

a little cleave or like

no cleave

at all

I'm thinking no cleave maybe

[void dragon]

The dueling sword is supposed to be a single target weapon, make it so it's only capable of hurting one enemy no matter the cleave you have except with specific moves that are made for that

[elder vessel]

im thinking like maybe 1.2 enemies per light if we want to be generous

[void dragon]

What's the current value?

[tame lodge]

4.5

💀

Ds5 L3 being the only at 1.5

[tired phoenix]

Other weapons need a similar level of mobility, or it needs tuning down. Mobility is an insane defensive tool as well.

[void dragon]

Is ObeseFish for real?!

Speaking of: Shredded Apistol should have better mobility imo

Currently feels like the infantry Agun

[tame lodge]

The cleave got buffed a long time ago when it was a psyker exclusive iirc

[void dragon]

Weird considering that Psyker can give it more cleave with stuff like warp splitting nowadays

[grand perch]

you can run and fire it now baseline which i think makes it way more mobile

[red robin]

Any links to this info or is it implied?

[unreal nova]

They joked about it, but if the game ends with a mostly negative reviews, we know why.

All they can really do is just buff everything up to like the current A tier weapons.

[red robin]

I just want the older weapons brought up from low tier to above average tier

Devils claw, chain weapons, and folding shovels

Sapper shovel would be nutty up there too with a little number tweaks

[void dragon]

Don't think that is better than the capacity to have a mobility profile like revolver or las pistols

[tame lodge]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/fatshark-open-to-conversation-on-dueling-sword/105692/471

[red robin]

Thanks brotha

[unreal nova]

Foldings have a funni niche though. 1 shotting crushers on funni build or 2 shotting with anything including no talents skilled.

[tame lodge]

Tl dr

Wait that's for DS

[unreal nova]

Take Skullcrusher and Decimator, use folded heavy x2.

[red robin]

Yeah, I don’t like nerfs on uber tier weapons just to bring it down to the mid weapons

[tame lodge]

Hold on

[unreal nova]

I think thrust skullcrusher for the 1 shot.

[red robin]

I like mid weapons to be brought up to A tier with duelling going down from S+ to S or even A

[red robin]

I pray to god blessings are apart of that balance patch

[tame lodge]

No idea where Path saw that

But like

It's Path

[red robin]

And maybe perk adjustments

[unreal nova]

If they don't remove the chain axe and Evis hit cap... this kitteh will reeeeeeeeeeee

[tame lodge]

Should be worth something

[void dragon]

We are being gaslighted into hoping that next patch will be weapon balance? Or we have direct confirmation that's the theme of next patch?

[void dragon]

Amen

[red robin]

I wish weakspot and critical damage perks were calculated differently than how it is currently

[unreal nova]

Was it the tac axe the last weapon?

I remember there was one more with a hit cap.

[red robin]

I’d like it to be combined into 10% finesse damage or even strength

[tame lodge]

Yeah taxes

I'm going to test shock maul later

[unreal nova]

Ah.

[red robin]

What ya testing?

[tame lodge]

Went to check the outdated Calculator

Munitorum Shock Maul H2 and H3 had like 0 damage on the fourth target but had damage on the 5th

So it's confusing

[red robin]

Lmao shovel is like that too

4th takes less than 5th

[tame lodge]

Which is just weird ngl

[void dragon]

That's some weird ObeseFish sorcery

[unreal nova]

A classic.

[manic badger]

Guys I said “Alleged” for the record

[loud belfry]

allegedly

[pseudo fiber]

They should take the cap off the evi and put it into the inferno staff

[gilded rock]

Tried a knife/shrauto WS Infil build last night

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-90s-kid-cool-good-gif-3575245

Not super competitive but good fun

[unreal nova]

Eh. No caps for all.

[gilded rock]

Could do burn falloff depending on how far the enemy is from the staff/flamer

Gets to keep the silly brain-off cleave but gotta use it better

[thorn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/talos-talosian-star-trem-star-trek-big-head-gif-12496470

[unreal nova]

Pretty sure it has damage fall off already for the direct damage.

[gilded rock]

Tbf damage is a dumpstat on the flamer so I don't think that's very impactful

Then again flamer isn't a huge problem so it doesn't reaaaally matter

[unreal nova]

I dumped mobility because.

[unreal nova]

Well, it has ammo. That already caps it.

[calm shard]

hey I saw path said weapon balance for next big patch

anybody want to take bets that the dclaw gets nothing again

no money because I have none but like...moral value bets

[red robin]

I pray to the gods there’s a perfect parry mechanic blessing

Like perfect parries cost exactly 0 stamina

[calm shard]

I would recommend more realistic prayers

[thin minnow]

I doubt flamer is any useful

Is it?

[calm shard]

Like the dclaw getting perfect block blessings but fatshark forgetting that the parry is coded poorly and isn't technically a block

[thorn lark]

sure, infinite cleave deleter

[grand perch]

why are 80% of current havocs fucking green slime bullshit modifier

whyd they bring that shit back

[elder fiber]

B/c its peak

[grand perch]

peak boring

[elder fiber]

I hope they introduce even more kinds of slime

[tall torrent]

It is a block

[unreal nova]

You just found out. All H40s seem to have it.

[serene bough]

I think fundamentally the weapon will always be bad since it's bad with armor

Wouldn't hold my breath waiting for dclaw changes

[calm shard]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[bold basalt]

As someone who mains Ogryn but plays every class somewhat equally, I have a question regarding roles:

• What is the main role of a Veteran?
• What is the sign of a good and/or bad Veteran?
• What to do if Ogryn is forced to kill specials that Veteran either leaves unkilled (knocked down but getting up) or ignores them entirely (e.g., Snipers, (Tox) Flamers)?

[calm shard]

that final question is the primary sign of a bad veteran

veteran is a hybrid melee/ranged class with a broad focus on having high ranged damage to pick off specials

[bold basalt]

Searching: How To Smack Templar Who Keeps Rutting Shooting Me Back

[crude fiber]

2 new blessing, 100% rending on special and infinite cleave on special

[tame lodge]

I'm setting up my bingo card

[calm shard]

very good

[tame lodge]

No real idea about what though

I'll put DS gets something

[hollow ibex]

Main role: give ammo to the rumblergryn

[bold basalt]

I'm trying Shieldgryn (?) and peeling heavies from the rest of the team, otherwise I go Knifegryn (???) and cleave through everything

[hollow ibex]

Ogryn does nearly everything a vet can do, but better

[bold basalt]

And yet they'll run around shooting things in melee like it's CoD or something at level 120

[void dragon]

Can I see what you have? I'm taking hopium for chain weapons to be cool again

[tame lodge]

Oh the card is not ready yet

But I got

Changes to DS
Buffs to Shock Maul
Buff to braced autos

Tactical Axe buff

[unreal nova]

Hit caps removed from all weapons?

[tame lodge]

Paul buffs

[faint beacon]

I’m gonna make a personal “Next update” bingo sheet and put the most dumb but things that FS would do, related wins on there

[hollow ibex]

Buffs to DS? 🥺

[void dragon]

PSword gets the relic blade treatment

[serene bough]

What could go wrong

[unreal nova]

Foldable shovel buff?

[faint beacon]

Ogryn is untouched is going to be on there LMAO

[unreal nova]

Surprise vet new weapon leaks?

[tame lodge]

"changes" is a broad term for either buff or nerfs

They'll definitely touch DS

[faint beacon]

It’s confirmed it’s getting nuked

How it’s lasted this long

Idk

[tame lodge]

Ooh Combat shotgun buff

[faint beacon]

But it’s getting nuked

[void dragon]

Nah, is already know that orgyn will be nerfed, is part of the prophesy

[void dragon]

Double barrel buff plZ

[unreal nova]

Cos oggy is just too overtuned compared.

[void dragon]

We to strong, ermo: we take nerf

[unreal nova]

If it is like the standard, vet REALLY need buffs.

[void dragon]

Vet needs actual mechanics that make it feel like the marksman class, because nowadays he doesn't feel like that

[unreal nova]

It feels like ammo dispenser that can shoot.

[void dragon]

Darktide is becoming TF3, with Orgyn Heavy and dispenser Veteran

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-its-been-a-long-time-rose-dewitt-bukater-titanic-gloria-stuart-gif-16850506

[tame lodge]

Is it too far fetched to put iLas changes on the bingo or

[tropic notch]

Can I see the notes?

[crude fiber]

No

[tropic notch]

[faint beacon]

Again just reward veteran for consistently hitting Weakspots

It’s that fucking easy

[faint beacon]

Even though I know it’s been confirmed for upcoming if not next upcoming

I’m still putting it in the sheet

DS untouched for another update

[void dragon]

Instructions unclear, make it so weapons do crap damage with other than weak spot hits and actually clicking heads feels barely ok

Sincerely: ObeseFish

[faint beacon]

Thank you shartshark

[void dragon]

MorbidlyobeseShrimp strikes again

[tame lodge]

Still compiling

I feel like I can throw whatever weapon in there

Ooh maybe Dclaw 1 changes

[void dragon]

Dclaw still do bad Vs caparace but can actually horde clear would be nice
Hsword overhead doing respectable damage va caparace would be GREAT

[tame lodge]

Dclaw 1 just needs a reliable Strikedown, maybe after a push like Cleaver 6

Then all Dclaws need better flak

[faint beacon]

Minimal Vigil changes

[tame lodge]

Undogshit the 9

[faint beacon]

Weak weapon somehow gets nerfed instead of buffed

[void dragon]

Make Braced Aguns feel like it can pull a Rambo, currently the feel so bad

[faint beacon]

That’s going on the list

[hollow ibex]

9 can’t be saved. Remove it from the game.

[warm kettle]

I like current brautos

[faint beacon]

Killing you all

[warm kettle]

I won't say no to more power!

[hollow ibex]

2 dodges. Cuz reasons.

[warm kettle]

Jade give two rides!

[faint beacon]

New weapon (if dropped) completely out classes all other veteran melees

[tame lodge]

Reduce the burst delay so you can go full auto when spamming m1

[void dragon]

For that mobility profile I expect it to make cheddar out of heretics but NOOOOOOO

[faint beacon]

A new useless mark variant

Let’s see what else

[void dragon]

Shield mk

[hollow ibex]

Tbf I think graia is decent but it needs ES

[tame lodge]

Low balling, plasma changes

[void dragon]

Now you explode even with left click spam

[faint beacon]

Shredder Auto gets nerfed for no fucking reason

Or make it more blanket spot and just

[serene bough]

id prefer they nerf less and buff more

[hollow ibex]

Wait

What???

[serene bough]

except for maybe the dueling sword which needs nerfs for obvious reasons

[hollow ibex]

Why the fuck are they nerfing SAP

[faint beacon]

“Weapon that’s fine gets nerfed for 0 reason”

[hollow ibex]

When it’s finally usable

[faint beacon]

Tidal wave of more psyker buffs

[hollow ibex]

Let me guess, are they buffing gunker too?

[hollow ibex]

You’re memeing

[narrow frost]

its real

[hollow ibex]

This can’t be real lol

[narrow frost]

I saw it

https://tenor.com/view/aitor-gif-7084060237011549479

[hollow ibex]

Cool

[narrow frost]

psyker is the weakest class

if you didnt know

[hollow ibex]

Might be high time to just uninstall this game

[narrow frost]

I'm trolling

[hollow ibex]

And quit permanently

[narrow frost]

so dont mind me

[tame lodge]

Ainz
Surely they are buffing the dogshit tactical axes next patch

[faint beacon]

I’m listing my bingo sheet for next update

[narrow frost]

will get uncanny and lacerate

on taxe

[hollow ibex]

Oh ok

[tame lodge]

💀

[void dragon]

Buff the Braced buns, the Shredder pistol and the chain axes, that's my hopium for this

[serene bough]

man, i hope uncanny gets nerfed in the next patch

[hollow ibex]

Fingers off the uninstall button for now

[tame lodge]

Making it even more Doo doo

[serene bough]

dueling sword and uncanny are the two things i want truly nerfed tbh

[tame lodge]

Who the hell aims for the body with a finesse esque weapon

Oh

Uh

[narrow frost]

from what I actually know, some of the talked about nerfs will be interesting

[tame lodge]

That's a story for another day

[void dragon]

But close enough if shit hits the reactors

[tall torrent]

who said that

[void dragon]

I think people said ObeseFish said that it was an outliner, but don't recall they saying that it will be nerfed or anything

[tame lodge]

Just throwing this one

Knife 3 buff

[void dragon]

Knife 3 needs a niche to differentiate from the other, but what niche idk

[hollow ibex]

Better lights

[void dragon]

Make it so it has superb cleave?

[slow spade]

make knife 3 a power knife UwU

[void dragon]

Give veteran a spear with an explosive tip

[agile forge]

Even better single target

[serene bough]

Any idea on when this balance patch is supposed to come

[tame lodge]

Hopefully by Skulls

[agile forge]

Sometimes it's more fun to have an unbalanced weapon

[tame lodge]

Or at least announced at Skulls

[agile forge]

Not OP, just one that is great in some areas and barely scrapes by in others

[tame lodge]

Skulls is usually later this month or earlier next month

[faint beacon]

Lance/Spear admittedly makes sense with Veteran for the regiments that use Cavalry

Steel Legion, DKOK, Etc

But I see the chance of a Heavy Axe happening more than that

[tame lodge]

Oh yeah there was a little oopsies earlier this year about the axes and hammer models

They'll probably be stuffed into the code and be used 2 years later

[faint beacon]

I’m still convinced Power Axe is Zealot

No way in hell Vet is getting that

[tame lodge]

Damn zealots
Getting all the cool weapons

Oh wait

I'm a zealot main

[hollow ibex]

Psyker exclusive actually

[void dragon]

Psyker can barely run with the FGS and you want to give him an even heavier weapon? I approve

[hollow ibex]

Force them to take warp speed

[tame lodge]

Ew

I already have low regards to Warp Speed

Why's the biomancy skill attached to Divination

[faint beacon]

Warp speed + mettle + disrupt making you literally the fastest class in the game

[hollow ibex]

I’m sorry that you hate fun

[tame lodge]

My fun is on having Extra talent points for something important

Like Unlucky for some

Ok but why biomancy is tied to divination

Or are you going to tell me that the divinator looks into the future and see the best movements and just perform them without fear

Warp speed

Brain Burst

Bio lightning

Smite

Enfeeble

Are our psykers just Biomancers

[calm shard]

imagine being a zealot or ogryn and needing a cooldown ability to be fast

couldn't be psyker

just crit a couple dudes and zoom

[pseudo fiber]

Multiclass perhaps? And vet gets a gun

[sharp epoch]

power axe to ogryn

[serene bough]

as long as vet gets a powerfist im happy

[sharp epoch]

wat if it goes to orgyn

[serene bough]

sure, why not both

do ogryns even get powerfists (in lore)

[tame lodge]

Back at 30k probably

[void dragon]

I recall there being some figures that had power fists in place of arms

[warm idol]

charonites but those are great crusade/horus heresy era oggies used by the solar auxilla

and borderline if not outright heretical

admech isn't a fan of em

[void dragon]

What about this? I think those are servo ogryns but maybe we can not be unalive to get that arms?

If we ever get power fists on orgyn I hope we have a special that on kill we pull in half the enemy we killed

[formal ice]

Driller from DRG but big

[boreal void]

Any rules of thumb for curios?

[hollow ibex]

For non havoc aim for 200 plus hp

[boreal void]

I'm pretty sure I have 3 rn

[hollow ibex]

2x hp and 1 toughness or 1x hp and 2 toughness are usually the ways to go for vet

[sharp epoch]

1 stam 1 tuff 1 hp gang

[boreal void]

I just have a bunch of extra xp right now because that seemed good to start woth

[hollow ibex]

You haven’t hit 30 yet?

[boreal void]

28 or 29 rn i think

[magic trout]

Not a rule of thumb but in my experience:
170-200 toughness is enough Vet can reach more than 250 tougness with all 3 curios plus 5% in each one but is useless you are loosing resistances or stamina generation going with too much toughness.
Some builds allow you to choose toughness nodes so play with that.
Weapon specialist build has access to +25 toughness so you can go:
1 toughness/1 stamina/1 wound and you will reach 200 tougness wich is enough for auric/maelstrom/damnation missions.
Also having an extra wound is always welcome having it will make you survive against corruption attacks that will deplenish you maximun HP.
Stamina curio is very good choice. mostly for weapons like combat knife, devil sword and power sword.
i expect a lot of hate for commenting this 😖

[mighty willow]

Ladies, Gentlemen, Fellow Cadian orphans, i know infiltrator is not meta. But it is very fun and reliable when i'm playing solo.

That being said, any recommendations on synergies and skills that synergize well with it?

[magic trout]

Dont worry about meta play with the weapons you fell comfortable.

[mighty willow]

I know, i just want to take as much value as i can from being a sneaky bastard

[magic trout]

Helbore, lasgun, acatran with marksman keystone is very fun playing as a sniper.
Acatran, revolver, shotgun, DB shotgun, plasma, braced/infantry AUG, bolt pistol are very good with weapon specialist keystone.

[magic trout]

My build for sneaky bastard 😅
Combat blade/bolt pistol
Flak/maniac
Fleshtearer/uncany

I havent tested this build in auric but in maelstrom/damnation has carry me very good

[mighty willow]

Thank you brother, i'll take the advice to heart

[hollow ibex]

I’d skip the brittleness on hit node

It’s pretty bad

[tropic notch]

Only thing I’d advise against is wounds

[tropic notch]

If you’re using serrated blade I’d drop ft mercy killer

And if you’re not using a full auto gun rending strikes isn’t worth

But looks good

[deep bone]

Which Dueling Sword should I use

Mk. IV

[tame lodge]

Mk4 for brain off

[deep bone]

Or Mk. II

[tame lodge]

Mk2 is a better Mk4 but you have to use your brain

[deep bone]

Valid

[boreal void]

'Solo'?

Reporting you to Fatshark for heresy

[tame lodge]

Just save your brain and go mk4

[boreal void]

Good tips thanks

[high token]

can u expand on dat?

[trim coral]

i personally run 3 toughness curios with combat ability regen, stam regen, and gunner resistance since +5 toughness doesnt mean anything when its getting shredded from range by gunners. do what u want tho

[mighty willow]

Listen, sometimes i just want a safety net for when my team's psyker deliberate starts shooting at the daemon host

[tame lodge]

It has the same H1 as Mk4
But a different H2 which is used for hordes, so you gotta learn the combos for first target and horde clearing

It's a Mk4 with a better horde clear

[high token]

[boreal void]

I threw a grenade at one today. Lol

[hollow ibex]

Uh skip the wound curio though

Rest is mostly up to you

Though 200+ hp is a very nice to have

[mighty willow]

This guy was another level, he shot once, saw the thing get up and his character say "Daemon Host, be careful"

And then shot him again

He was given a second chance

💔

[boreal void]

Listen, if you've got a lasgun there's only one thing you're supposed to do with it. The muscle memory gets you.

Unless you replace that part of your brain with a servo, ofc

[faint beacon]

You shouldn’t run wound on Veteran I’ll be blunt, you should be focusing Toughness the most with HP or Stam as a back up

[hollow ibex]

Stam?

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-senju-gif-13079766

[gilded rock]

PA spam on some weapons

[faint beacon]

Taxe

Mainly Taxe 7 cause I’m not gonna pass up on PA loops

[hollow ibex]

I use mk 4

[faint beacon]

Worst variant

Skin him alive

[hollow ibex]

[cobalt lance]

I do not like dueling sword

It looks stupid

[formal ice]

Everything looks stupid

[umbral scaffold]

I forgot is mk 3 or 6 better for energized lights with P sword?

[hollow ibex]

6 is better at... everything

[umbral scaffold]

That’s what I thought I’ve had it on 6 but some guy in my game the other day was talking about 3 lmao so I needed to confirm

[hollow ibex]

he's def wrong

instead of taking advice from a random stranger in the game

you should take advice from me, a random stranger on discord

(but jokes aside, feel free to check the pinned guide if you're curious)

[woeful wedge]

one of them has a horizontal attack on h1->h2 , the second on l1->l2

but u need like l1->l2-> block cancel ->...

[sharp epoch]

ps3 was the og though

[hollow ibex]

i should try it again, because suffering is fun

[solar valve]

Mk3 stabs are the true Birmingham experience

Just as GW intended

[gilded wraith]

If we could squeeze out a little more attack speed in the veteran talent tree the mk3 heavies would interest me for the horizontal horde clear and Sunder shenanigans. As it stands I think mk6 is the better selection overall.

[boreal void]

Guess who just reached level 30 and got their first dueling sword on the same mission 😎

[gilded wraith]

👍

[hollow ibex]

grats, hopefully you can get 100 plasteel out of it

[sharp epoch]

thing with ds is it might get nerfed soon, so id learn other things for now and swap to ds when you got a backup you can use

[boreal void]

Haven't even used the DS yet. Might've got one earlier, but this one stuck out to me because it's purple

Mostly use the chainsword atm

[sharp epoch]

since your new, once you max chainsword swap to another weapon

that way you can try out a bunch of different ones

[boreal void]

Makes sense. Only picked it up recently. Was using the devil's claw up for a while. Close to maxing it currently.

[magic trout]

Why everyone hate wounds?
Having an extra wound is very good for survival overall in auric/maelstrom/damnation for
Corruption.

[magic trout]

Just play with everything you feel comfortable.
No evrything has to be meta builds.

[ocean bramble]

the assumption is that at those levels you're avoiding damage, which negates the need for extra wounds. If the extra wounds are needed, your problem isn't that you don't have enough wounds, it's that you're getting hit at all

stamina and toughness curios both help you avoid damage

[hollow ibex]

it's setting yourself up for failure

more wounds you take, the more you'll need those wounds

because your defense stats are lower asa a result

not to mention green stims becoming less useful

[magic trout]

I think thsts no a goid argument

[hollow ibex]

this isn't even a question of meta or not meta

[magic trout]

Failure?

[hollow ibex]

it's just bad to take wounds unless you need training wheels

even then, just one max

[magic trout]

I dont think i am pro player at all
But avoiding damage, yeah its fact that you must avoid damage.
Another fact is that you will recieve damage.
Having an extra wound is good for survival.

[magic trout]

I already knew this was gonna be the full argument.

[ocean bramble]

that's fair, but you're referring to auric/maelstrom usefulness. at those levels, you should be taking less damage than your total toughness, and if you're not, you should play more damnation, generally speaking. Corruption is only relevant if you're getting knocked more than twice in a row, which again, shouldn't happen at that level

Below damnation, run more wounds for sure if you like it

[magic trout]

I play with 1 extra wound in auric and has saved me many times.
I also have seen other player using it and have survided because of that.

[sharp epoch]

wounds are sometimes worse than no wounds, especially in havoc where there are a lot of sources of corruption

[magic trout]

But is havoc
Havoc missions are very different

[sharp epoch]

it'll lock away a portion of your hp bar once the corruption goes past a wound and corruption cleansers such as beacon or field improv wont cleanse it

[magic trout]

You need to max hp/toughness to barely survive

[woeful wedge]

but u can run taf/hp and do less knockout

[magic trout]

Yes but instead of having 1 chance you have 2.

[sharp epoch]

yeah but the way wounds work is it'll divide your hp into 3 parts, so you only need to be corrupted 1/3 of your hp to lose that wound even without going down

[magic trout]

But in havoc i completely agree thats having a extra wound is sueles

[sharp epoch]

1 poxburster might make you be corrupted enough just to lose that wound if you take an extra wound

[magic trout]

And you will still have a chance.
With only 2 wounds most the of the pox will kill you inmediately because damage/corruption

[ocean bramble]

1 wound curio is certainly reasonable, I can't be weird and argue about that

not my preference personally but i get that

anything more makes me raise an eyebrow tho lol

[hollow ibex]

nah 1 wound curio is a crutch

and depicting them as a valid choice outside of training wheels to new players is really not cool

[mortal viper]

what guns are good to run beside plasma with ds or rashad I dont really like plasma

[hollow ibex]

IAG/bolter/SAP/double barrel/revolver/bistol/laspis/recon

[mortal viper]

ok so I can try some others then I like the recon and the bolter have not tried some of the others yet

[hollow ibex]

that's the beauty of vet

lots of good gun options

downside is that you don't have many good melee options...

[cobalt lance]

I like stub revolver but I can't decide on the mark

Being able to shoot straight is essential, but yeehawing with fanning looks so good...

The zealot has perk that increases your accuracy when dodging, but veteran doesnt

[hollow ibex]

the ADS one is the much stronger revolver

[hollow ibex]

Exec stance: am i a joke to you

fanning wins style points over the ADS revolver tho

[serene bough]

They should make the sapper shovel good

I would like to bonk heretics

[hollow ibex]

instructions unclear, we buffed DS

[hollow ibex]

maybe try this out: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ee41e34-a952-4c23-9b90-9f6284b0dc57/stamina-edger

it's a pretty funny build

shovel still sucks, but this might be the strongest build for it tbh

[serene bough]

Didn't think people used all or nothing

[hollow ibex]

it has natural synergies with mk1 shovel (push attack)

and vet (dogshit stam economy)

i mean i'm gonna be real, this is a meme build, but it actually comes together quite well

[serene bough]

Yeah I get the shovel isnt that great

But still, it's a unique vet wep so I wish it was at least viable

[calm shard]

It is viable

skullcrusher+uncanny to juice the hell out of shredder grenades

and it has good enough damage

[serene bough]

Don't wanna juice shredders I want the weapon itself to juice the skulls of heretics

Uncanny and shredders really need to be tweaked

[orchid hemlock]

Wait there are multiple revolvers? 🤔

[cobalt lance]

Yes, yes it is a joke

[trim coral]

explain this one fatshart 😡 https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kh8cfQWFoeyKg-wmT?invite=cr-MSxjS28sMjIxODc3Njg4

[elder vessel]

tfw when you practice proper ammo management the entire game getting the most of your weapon while never being a burden to your team and you make it to the final room and since you have a surplus of ammo its time

to let the bolter brain within you loose

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-warhammer40k-tactical-marine-bolter-adeptus-astartes-gif-16749240

[mortal horizon]

I wish I had this clipped

has anyone just instantly died in havoc from....nothing?

full hp, nothing swinging at me, crusher was in a walking animation and I slid up to it to powersword it

and i got deleted with yellow bar even

my only thought is it was a server dysync and the crusher was swinging at me and I couldn't see it

[warm schooner]

sometimes I wish there was a deadpool activity in the social area where you could bet on the outcome of a randomly ingame streamed havoc run

[grand perch]

use steams auto recording feature if you can

i occasionally go back and see what killed me and its usually something i just didnt notice in the moment

[grand perch]

at least they didnt take longshot

[dry cloak]

Yes

Also i found agrivolver appreciation post on reddit

[austere mica]

4 reapers in one second flat

[supple stag]

ah yes, the "right" build

[magic trout]

Tell me that ''this'' work somehow 😅

[warm schooner]

dunno I didn't stick around in the h40 group to find out

[grand perch]

that guy gets it

[sharp epoch]

outskilled

[unreal nova]

4? They can do 6 on a one shot build.

[dry cloak]

5

[austere mica]

I’m specifically referencing an extremely obscure and basically useless piece of shroudfield tech

[dry cloak]

revolvers have 5 shots

[austere mica]

Shroudfield has a minimum duration of a second

[dry cloak]

wwre talking vet mate

[austere mica]

You can fire 4 times in one second

[dry cloak]

aye

[austere mica]

Nuh uh, you said you found a post referencing agrivolver and you said nothing about class

[dry cloak]

it was vet

[unreal nova]

My head keeps thinking they are 6 shots.

[dry cloak]

because im saying it on vet chat

[unreal nova]

Because well, six shooters.

[dry cloak]

the fan fire one could use 6 ngl

[austere mica]

5 shots is standard for a .50 revolver

[dry cloak]

it this is 50cal and hinged. those rounds are 455 webley power

[unreal nova]

You know all I know of guns is from entertainment. Revolvers tend to be 6 shots.

[dry cloak]

yes

[viral chasm]

we got 4 shot in drg

[dry cloak]

yes but it shoots fuck off rounds

[severe gale]

the dt revolver is capable of penetrating carapace armor

and can cleave 7 people

[dry cloak]

becuase game magic

[severe gale]

i’d classify those as fuck off rounds

[unreal nova]

That thing blows holes in things.

Uncontrollable massive kick tiers.

[viral chasm]

the weapon you use for hunting giant bug

[dry cloak]

i would classify them as rounds that the revolver should not survive

[severe gale]

the dt revolver?

[dry cloak]

yup

[severe gale]

diamantine

plasteel

ceramide

etc

[grand perch]

our wrists shouldnt survive tbh

[dry cloak]

do you know anything about gun construction?

[severe gale]

plenty of plausible explanations for the revolver’s strength

[severe gale]

yes!

[dry cloak]

then you should know that hinged designes died out because round became too powerful

[austere mica]

And we have magic space metal

Shut up

It’s 40k

We do it cause it looks cool

[viral chasm]

it's all omnissiah will

[severe gale]

material science improved! and because of that, we can have hinged revolvers!

the only real complaint i have about guns in this game

is the autoguns being triple stacked magazines

[austere mica]

Triple stacked mags being the most cursed shit

[severe gale]

yarp

[dry cloak]

no those are 2 mags stablep together

look closer

[severe gale]

uh no they aren’t

lmfao

[dry cloak]

yes they are

[severe gale]

the seam down the middle?

[dry cloak]

those are quad stacks

[dry cloak]

yup

[severe gale]

that’s just there so the magazine looks structurally stable

it’s not a quad stack magazine

[dry cloak]

those quad stacks mate

[severe gale]

they aren’t bud

i’m not gonna bother getting up to prove this

[dry cloak]

i need to look at them in game

[severe gale]

go ahead

they’re triple stacked lmfao

there’s not enough space on the sides to fit another bullet

[grand perch]

looks quadstacked to me

thats a vigi autogun tho

[severe gale]

@dry cloak

triple and double stacked in the same mag

insanity

[severe gale]

all of the magazines look like that

as i remember

[loud belfry]

2.5 stack

[grand perch]

its like 2.5d but for gun nerds

[dry cloak]

those mags always looked like 2 mags stapled together

the more you know

[severe gale]

as usual i’m right…

sigh,,, it’s so hard being sooo perfect aaalll the time…

[dry cloak]

youre right on one thing

im still gonna say that the revolver is bullshit

[severe gale]

wrong

i’m always right

it’s impossible for me to be wrong

[severe gale]

we have hammers that can store kinetic energy and release it all at once

i think a uniquely strong gun metal isn’t that out of the question

[dry cloak]

amfibiohelipoduszkoczołgolot what vehicle is that

[dry cloak]

those revolvers are meant as hiveganger weapon mate

[severe gale]

is this meant to be a like

[grand perch]

Kurwa Mk1

[severe gale]

“name 5 songs from that band” thing

[loud belfry]

amphibious helipod* (wtf is an uszkoczolgolot)

[severe gale]

im assuming it’s a water landing heli

[visual remnant]

Opens up the book of Everytime Meow Posted Either Knowingly Or Unknowingly; A Falsehood, An Untruth, Meowsinformeowtion, and Knavish Hearsay (foreword is a list of typos)

[dry cloak]

all of you are wrong

[grand perch]

im assuming its a nonsense word

[severe gale]

ok frog

[visual remnant]

I am green but i am not the Frosch

[severe gale]

by pulling random bullshit out of my ass, it proves me right!

[visual remnant]

If i was frosh id be defendin u within an inch of my life

[severe gale]

green with envy

envious of how i’m right all the time

[visual remnant]

Like a certain Nvm !

[visual remnant]

Envious of how PAWESOME and AMAZIN u r ..

[severe gale]

siiiiiigh…

[dry cloak]

just go back to your signalis hellhole

[severe gale]

u can’t handle me being right all the time

and therefor resort to ad hominem

[visual remnant]

Swagnalis

[severe gale]

once again my intellectual superiority is proven

i truly am nothing but perfect

[dry cloak]

ok all of 40k is bullshit that the basis

[severe gale]

wha

[dry cloak]

it is

[visual remnant]

Meow is glowing an irradiated enmoldified brackish purple Redditified glow

[severe gale]

i did just tip my fedora

[severe gale]

i don’t know what ur point is

basis of what

[visual remnant]

If you actually own a fedora irl I'm ignoring you for three (3) days

[dry cloak]

you dont have to

[severe gale]

40k is bullshit, that’s the basis

basis of what?

what is your point?

[severe gale]

i don’t

[dry cloak]

if youre so correct all the time tell me

[visual remnant]

Good..

[severe gale]

i don’t own any hats i think

[visual remnant]

U should buy a multicolored propeller hat

And be whimsy

[severe gale]

or if i do they’re buried somewhere in my closet and i have zero desire to find them

[severe gale]

i think getting one of my friends that hat and a comically large swirly lollipop

for their bday

and getting a picture of them in it

would be incredibly funny

[visual remnant]

I need to buy one

[severe gale]

i’ve wanted to do it for a while

but i never got around to it

[severe gale]

tell you what

there is nothing for me to be correct on

[visual remnant]

Ask her anything about Spez Mareens

She'll start foaming at the mouth

[severe gale]

oh i’ll know the answer

i just hate space marines

[visual remnant]

(She's BORING and hatez Spez Mareenz)

[severe gale]

i study them to hate them more efficiently

[dry cloak]

lets jsut agree to disagree

[visual remnant]

I looooooove Space Marines

[severe gale]

norp

[dry cloak]

we have our own opinions

[visual remnant]

I have MY truth

[severe gale]

my opinions are objective fact

[visual remnant]

U have UR truth..

[severe gale]

is that truth that we’re all gay for each other

[visual remnant]

Am I the only person who feels like

[dry cloak]

opinions are subjective mate

[austere mica]

I love the things people decide to call out in sci-fi media

[dry cloak]

facts are objective

[visual remnant]

A vein in my forehead bulge whenever I hear "my truth"

[severe gale]

yeah my opinions are objective fact

[austere mica]

Plasma weaponry and super soldiers? Ok
Revolver? What the fuck

[severe gale]

haven’t you heard of double think?

[visual remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-duck-angry-meme-gif-25118227

[dry cloak]

orwell? yeah

[severe gale]

i don’t know what ur referencing, all i know is that family guy clip from family guy funny moments #432

[visual remnant]

Triple stacked autoguns are silly

I hateth them..

[austere mica]

Yeah it’s cursed but also funny

[dry cloak]

those could work very well

[austere mica]

They would jam every 3 seconds but we pray hard enough they decide to work

[severe gale]

do you know anything about gun construction?

[grand perch]

ork logic

[dry cloak]

but ive yet to meet 50cal revolver thats hinged and ait using blackpowder

[dry cloak]

yep

ot theoretical level yes

on practical level no

[severe gale]

then you’d know that triple stacked magazines would jam repeatedly

[severe gale]

oh this explains a lot

[austere mica]

I really don’t know how to explain to you they have magic scifi metals any harder

[severe gale]

imagine never having built ur own gun before

[dry cloak]

i get that

i just like to think about things on our tech level

[visual remnant]

Like chainswords

Steel would suck cutting against steel

[dry cloak]

thats just a chain saw

[austere mica]

Chainswords are the stupidest bullshit physically possible

[visual remnant]

Let alone carapace materials or ceramite

[austere mica]

But they look cool

[visual remnant]

But they have unobtanium tips

[severe gale]

but it’s not steel! it’s mono molecular ceramite

or something like that

[visual remnant]

And sometimes rlly good ones have disruption fields

[austere mica]

So they are the universe’s pinnacle of melee weapon design

[visual remnant]

Erm

Adamantine

[austere mica]

Because for some reason the eldar also have them

[severe gale]

depends on the sword and who’s using it

[severe gale]

didn’t the imperium steel them from the eldar

stwal

step

steal

[austere mica]

Simultaneous invention

It’s like the crab thing

All cultures eventually make chainswords

[severe gale]

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[visual remnant]

Typo logged

[glad temple]

More accurate comparison would be gunpowder

[austere mica]

The eldar might’ve skipped that

We don’t know enough of their deep past

[glad temple]

Man
Alot of you guys play DRG too

[austere mica]

The horde shooter Venn diagram is a circle

And played is more accurate

[glad temple]

🙂

[glad temple]

It's one molecule thick
Which is physically impossible
Especially since we can actully see the teeth

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/sir-yes-sir-gif-9677227512883570825

[limpid lily]

Honestly you swing any of the chain weapons against anything solid (humans don't count) they either foul and jam, or shatter, and kill the wielder.

But it's fictional 40k who cares 😉

[tame lodge]

So you're telling me
That there's a chance that my Chainsaw might
Kick back

https://tenor.com/view/já-a-comrade-v-yellowjacku-u-jukeboxu-gif-13691878049566354626

[limpid lily]

😄

[elder vessel]

"mono-molecular"

*looks inside*

*not invisible to the naked eye*

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-11877335675029242228

[glad temple]

What new weapon should I get?

Shredder pistol?

Devil's claw?

[pseudo fiber]

Uhhh shredder why not

[glad temple]

K
Just started the game tbh

[pseudo fiber]

Then pick what looks neat to you

[glad temple]

Aye sounds good
Thanks mate

[tame lodge]

Dclaw can parry everything

But suffers from badflakosis

[thin minnow]

Zealot chat isn't helpful at all, best perks for chain axe and bolt pistol?

[glad temple]

Pls give me smth that can actually kill maulers and ragers

I could get an axe too

[pseudo fiber]

Chain axe slaughterer headtakers flak maniac
Bolt pistol for zealot uhhhhhhhhhh puncture... and idk Run and Gun or DA or something lethal wouldn't really do much. Elite unarmoured I think? I don't play much bolt pistol zealot sorry

[glad temple]

I want the veteran outfit that's on the specialist art in talent tree to be honest

[tame lodge]

Well Dclaw counters ragers

But if you want something to kill ragers and maulers

Dueling Sword 4

Power Sword

[glad temple]

Can veterans even use it?

[tame lodge]

Yes

[glad temple]

Damn that's neat

[tame lodge]

They are not exclusive to Psyker since November or was it December last year

[pseudo fiber]

September

[tame lodge]

Damn I'm way off

[dry cloak]

o fuck

[glad temple]

Why do y'all look like heretics

I guess it's the dirt

[viral hazel]

Look at those Relic Greatsword chads

[glad temple]

Is the revolver worth anything

I got a blue rarity one just now

[pseudo fiber]

Yes

Revolver is very good

[glad temple]

Noice
My highest tier weapon so far

I presume it's a precision weapon?

[tame lodge]

Depends on the name

Zarona is a precision

Agripina is cowboy yee haw

https://tenor.com/view/on-fire-cowboy-shooting-gun-gif-15317612

[glad temple]

Which catachan sword to pick?
And what perks to look for

[glad temple]

I got agripinaa

[tame lodge]

4 or 7

Flak Maniacs

Blessings are Rampage + Shred/Savage Sweep

[glad temple]

I got one in the shop with +10% to carapace
Sounds useless on this sword

[glad temple]

Oh nvm that's a catachan blade

The knife I mean

[tame lodge]

If it's the knife

Lemme remember the perks

[glad temple]

I got a catachan sword here with +4% damage in weak points and another one with +1 stamina

Oh and there is a helbore lasgun as well

[tame lodge]

You can change the perks at Hadron later

[glad temple]

K thx
I'll take the one with damage I think

[glad temple]

Then I might get a helbore lasgun

[dry cloak]

Spokojnie jak nabijesz mistrzostws to bedziesz mógł se zmieniać wersje

I jak masz pytania bij do mnie

[glad temple]

K dzięki

[stoic jetty]

for powersword, do you dump cleave target or cleave damage?

[orchid hemlock]

Target

[viral hazel]

Hardly, I aim in the general direction of the enemy and somehow land multiple consecutive headshots

[slow spade]

Agri revolver is 100% accurate if you're just lucky

[empty plover]

Is chained deathblow + deathblow a good combo for vet heavy sword WS build?

or should I go deathblow + headtaker?

[glad temple]

Did the same
3 headshots in a row from lasgun distance

[tame lodge]

Nope

Besides

Chained Deathblow is bugged

Only 10% chance across all tiers

[viral hazel]

Now try to hit consistent headshots with the lasgun, lmao, I'm not even certain it could be done with aim cheats

[empty plover]

I see thanks

[tame lodge]

Oh you guys are talking about the hitbox thingy

Yeah Zarona projectile is huge

Compared to lasgun

[viral hazel]

That and the lasgun's hit reg is funky at best. Walking around clicking heads and registering as body shots

[tacit rock]

what talents do you use for shotgun?

[hollow ibex]

Which shotgun

[tacit rock]

double barrelled

[dry cloak]

for the future. if you say shotgun most people will assume youre talking about combat shotguns not hte DB

[tacit rock]

in the present, what's a valuable build for the double barrelled?

[tame lodge]

I don't got a build with me rn

But it goes the usual

And ends at Weapon Specialist with Always Prepared

Flechette Manstopper for infinite cleave bleed lol

[hollow ibex]

This is the way

I run flakiac for perks

[glad temple]

No thanks I will get the braced autogun

[viral hazel]

On the subject of shotguns, with the Onslaught talent (continuous hits to a single target adds a stack of 2.5% brittleness. max 16 stacks) does it apply the brittleness once per shot or can each pellet in a shot apply a stack of brittleness?

[tame lodge]

Good question

I'm willing to say once per shot though

[tacit rock]

is slaughter spree good?

[hollow ibex]

Pretty sure that’s the case

[tame lodge]

That's a tactical axe blessing
Not good

Doesn't help when you need it

[elder vessel]

VETERAN

SPEAR WEAPON

[midnight wyvern]

pointy stick seems more of a zealot thing

[elder vessel]

lies

[viral hazel]

Everyone needs a good pointy stick and a heavy rock

[glad temple]

Glaive would be better
Can cut and stab

[dry cloak]

if anything

speat would be on ogryn with shield

[elder vessel]

ogryn

chain

glaive

[tame lodge]

Counterpoint
Helbore bayonet

It's a pointy on a shooting stick

[midnight wyvern]

they'd just use a long piece of rebar lmao

[dry cloak]

yeas

[serene bough]

Nice patch announcement at skulls

Fingers crossed it'll be good

[slow spade]

Darktide trailer at the end showed a small, fast, feral beast that attacks humans