veteran-class

[lost frigate]

bro are there a autogun that suitable for sniping role

[hollow ibex]

yeah you got an entire class of them

they're called vigilant autoguns

[void dragon]

Am I crazy or the superior sniper weapon is the bolter? It might have a lowish ammo econ, it punch holes on targets with relative ease, does the Helbore or vigilant guns excel on something specific other than ammo?

[hollow ibex]

bolter's super strong yeah

[unreal nova]

I mean, have you seen the revolver in aurics, lmao.

[hollow ibex]

helbore's also a good sniper

[gritty mural]

and surprisingly good ammo economy

[void dragon]

2 shot a crusher IS quite insane, I can give you that

[unreal nova]

You can even do a one shot if you build for it.

[void dragon]

How is it? Is Helbore absolute in shambles?

[unreal nova]

No, ammo economy is horrible, and your tree will be a mess, lmao.

[hollow ibex]

good, but kinda painful to play

[unreal nova]

If you are just the elite/specials shooter.

Is funni, sure.

[hollow ibex]

the worst situation is when you're getting swarmed, and there's also a gunner/shooter backline that's ripping you up

and there's no cover

helbore just can't deal with that

[void dragon]

Trying to be designated elite killer with 0 bodyguards as a sniper build on a quick play game is the definition of pain

[unreal nova]

Is why you need to play with at least one other willing to play a support role, lul.

As in, keep chaff off you.

[void dragon]

Hoping that the ogryn rework bring some taunt slabs to make that style more viable even on that environments

[kind scarab]

Psykers are like 30->90% support

Hoping an ogryn supports you better than one will only leave you disappointed I'm afraid since their fat asses tend to eat bullets you're trying to snipe with

[glacial sigil]

how do you even see this score?

[hollow ibex]

scoreboard mod

[glacial sigil]

ah

[unreal nova]

Or get a weird Zealot.

But they rather pocket the Psykinetics psyker.

[narrow frost]

depends on what you mean by support

if you mean killing everything then yes

[glacial sigil]

man I've played darktide for for 55 hours straight, almost everyday with the sole purpose of levelling 💀

[glacial sigil]

might just take a break after getting vet to 30 to avoid burnou

[unreal nova]

You solo games, WDYM?

[grizzled pebble]

Hi it's me smiter I support you

[kind scarab]

Ty for the support, your contribution to making the sniper useful are appreciated

[wanton dawn]

I love voidstrike machine gun support build

[frank basin]

hey what's veteran perk shovel for crowd control?

my new darktide friend asking

and blessing too

[narrow frost]

[frank basin]

man am looking but hes kinda bonky if i gonna post the image shovel stats

[grizzled pebble]

I go uncanny decimator and call it a day

[frank basin]

now for purple shovel?

[narrow frost]

or uncanny skiullcrusher

[frank basin]

there's tier 1 skullcrusher on his shovel so is good

but does he need upgrade to gold?

[grizzled pebble]

If its max damage stats yeah

[frank basin]

it isn't

hes level 10

veteran

got purple tier

[grizzled pebble]

Then I wouldn't worry about anything and just play until 30

[frank basin]

hes when to malice at level 9

i carry him yeah

[stoic thorn]

How I deadass fucking watch as a lvl19 joins damnation

[grizzled pebble]

Sry was me

[umbral scaffold]

Can someone explain this to me this I've blocked boss special attack and thoughn3ss went down to 1 it's just luck or there is something like " If you block and you toughness would go to zero I stays at 1"

[narrow frost]

thats an overhead from the boss

it does through toughness

[umbral scaffold]

The toughness gain bolter on continuous fire saved me many times on this run but the ammo is a problem

I don't think I'm gonna these blessings

[unreal nova]

Low lvls joining damns mael is normal.

[umbral scaffold]

Half time in my run I had zero ammo

Gonna go with different blessings

[hybrid plover]

if it's not auric, i mean...

[umbral scaffold]

But it's pain for him and teammates

Even if your good

[hybrid plover]

I mean yeah fair but, unfortunately that'll just happen more if you're on the regular board.

Unless they're talking Auric.

[umbral scaffold]

For me the worst is heresy when some players think they are good enough

[unreal nova]

I literally watched a friend basically solo silo damn mael because the teammates are like...

[umbral scaffold]

I find regular damnation better with ppl

[unreal nova]

Yeah. And when someone ragequitted, I hotjoined to help him finish the finale.

[grizzled pebble]

I sneak into auric for exp leech

[stoic thorn]

How I deadass fucking watch as a lvl19 joins damnation

[old prism]

My favourite is letting level 31 veterans into my havoc 40 run

It’s like an experiment, you get to experience them in their natural habitat

[unreal nova]

Wot

[grizzled pebble]

I'm level 15 havoc can I do 40 with you?

I smite :3

[old prism]

Are you a level 31 veteran?

[grizzled pebble]

No

[old prism]

Then no

[grizzled pebble]

[unreal nova]

But, but, but carry us lul.

[old prism]

I like watching newer players reactions to situations in havoc

[grizzled pebble]

[old prism]

The other day I watched a veteran magdump a lasgun into a crusher

And he wasn’t running rending

[unreal nova]

So i guess you'll just fall asleep when I play.

[old prism]

Dw I already do fall asleep while playing darktide

[umbral scaffold]

I lately made new char and it's so hard to not play higher difficulties even with skill and max weapon you cannot jump over somethings

[old prism]

This is not even a joke lol

Ask ainz

@narrow frost

[unreal nova]

@narrow frost Did Hamdol crashed into his keyboard playing with you?

[narrow frost]

there was that 1 time

vbery drunk

vigil station

havoc 40

with grinnch

[unreal nova]

Well, drunk, explains.

[kind scarab]

Karien, drunk with controller would be interesting

It'd be like a drunk ninja

With a big ass sword

[latent parcel]

karien might karry harder with alcohol

[kind scarab]

Ikr?

[unreal nova]

No, I will be asleep in char pick screen then.

I literally go from sober to zzzzz.

[loud belfry]

drunk karien: limiters unlocked, 100% power

[unreal nova]

I'm actually serious.

[grizzled pebble]

Karien when drunk only requires 1% of her power to carry

[stoic thorn]

Shock maul is GOOOD

What counts as staggered

[unreal nova]

Nu. You guys have to 3 man carry an eeping deadweight then.

[odd sparrow]

Enemies who are wobbling/on the ground. Typically lasts for 1~ sec as you hit. Duration depending on the hit mass, essentially size of the enemy. Melee elites and ogryns generally being much harder to stagger

[stoic thorn]

My plasma gun has quite a bit of stagger to it

[warm harbor]

Can’t wait to have a Hellgun

[stoic thorn]

What would a hellgun do for us tbf

Inf ammo?

[pseudo fiber]

Funny

Hellgun with shock trooper lol

[warm harbor]

Extreme armor pen

They’re said to go through space marine armor

So-

I bet they can destroy cultists easily

[stoic thorn]

We already destroy cultists easily

With the Ilas

And if there ARE astartes on the planet

We have the Thammer and Plasma Gun already

Plus Helbore alr gives out a shit ton of dmg

I'd want a Multilas for Ogryn

Las minigun

Plus I'm pretty sure it would be pretty hard to get the power cell of the Hellgun on the back

[pseudo fiber]

I mean the new vet weapon is probably a ranged weapon based on my own personal delusions

[stoic thorn]

We'd probably get the Hot Shot Carbine

Check the aquilons

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah I think so too

Which is probably why it was delayed

[kind scarab]

Let your delusions become reality, I want a new gun

[junior grail]

Revealed to be a new revolver mark that does marginally more damage with more recoil and worse ammo efficiency

[kind scarab]

Hmmmm... I could live with that

[pseudo fiber]

Personally I'd prefer a melee weapon since those have more diversity but

[junior grail]

Powerfist?

[kind scarab]

I could live with that too, if it's a spear type weapon.

Or a shock whip, so I can torment those trappers kidnapping me

[junior grail]

On a more serious note, I want a Vet Grenade Launcher

[kind scarab]

I want vet to be able to use any of the grenades the other classes can use.

[junior grail]

Aren't you something special~

[kind scarab]

Give us a dedicated grenade slot

And let us switch between different class grenades

Pulling a pin ain't fucking science, anyone should be able to do it

[pseudo fiber]

Grenade launcher and power fist feel like they'd be the coolest options by a large margin

[umbral scaffold]

And meltagun

[junior grail]

Even a plasma pistol would be great

[junior grail]

Then you'd get all Vets running Grenade builds only haha

[stoic thorn]

Havoc gets pulverised with krak grenade spammers

Ogryn rumbler if it wasn't fucking around

The shock maul is fun as fuck bonking people

[pseudo fiber]

I mean stunstorms would be useless on Vet and immo grenades would be pretty great
Blades of faith would be zealot only though even with your idea so idk doesn't feel like much would change

All the ogryn grenades are a no go and unless we've found a way to safely harness the power of the warp no psyker stuff either

[kind scarab]

Improved grenades notable would clearly get reworked..stun grenades would prolly get longer duration, flame grenade might have more radius + damage, knives would not translate over ofc, but ogryn nades would probably get scaled down

Instead of a mininuke, you'd probably get just a normal frag minus the bleed. Nade box would be an impact nade of sorts

[pseudo fiber]

I mean scaled down ogryn grenades would be shredders, shredders but no bleed, pocket cadia sand

[kind scarab]

(Naturally I'm under no illusions this would happen, but it'd be nice to imagine)

[stuck tree]

🤫

[iron marten]

I just wish vet got the same nade pathing as ogryn

Then I have an excuse to bring smoke to every build

[stoic thorn]

How I deadass watch as the fucking zealot who's literally within reviving distance of me chorus and moves toward another teammate (I died)

They then proceeded to get overwhelmed and die

[stuck tree]

💔

[umbral scaffold]

I guess He found you unworthy

Did you speak to him some mean words 🤔

Ok his just stupid his Zeal has burned most of his braincells

I remember during Zola's specially.mission on the finale arena I was left alone with 3 teammates to pickup it was hell Ive played fury Zealot and was running loops and try to pick up somebody for 5 mins😂

But we where victorious that day 💪

It's a tight window to pick up when this fast moving twin won't let you breath

[remote sonnet]

Going back to lasgun Ex Stance, I forget how fun it is.

A few taps and things die in auric mael.

And able to run H30-34.

[grand perch]

You can go all the way to 40

It's just not easy

[vernal trench]

Just need ur team to protect u like a gta escort mission

[remote sonnet]

I have skill issue with that build at H35+.

[grizzled pebble]

Dw I spam smite and save you.

[remote sonnet]

The horror...

[grizzled pebble]

[stuck tree]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-movie-fnaf-memes-giftok-meme-fnaf-gif-9907126254698453378

lower levels watching me get grabbed

[remote sonnet]

The screen will be the biggest enemy. Highlighted targets, ability contour, flame, bleed, soul blaze, explosion...

[kind scarab]

Me watching from the voxcasters camera as the disablers bully you

[tame lodge]

Me omw to have sensory overload

[stuck tree]

this is what i see when i was drunkl

[dry cloak]

Demoman tf3

[steep flower]

Demoboi would never use a toothpick

[dry cloak]

Thin persian persuader

[unreal nova]

Beeg sword or bonky things.

[steep flower]

Persian persuader on a diet yeah

[vernal trench]

Smyker sucks

[sudden cedar]

[unreal nova]

So fury relic or fury caxe is fine.

[dry cloak]

Yes yes it is

[limber pawn]

does the weapon specialist affect my next single shot or whole 6 sec?

[dry cloak]

Read the keystone once again

[limber pawn]

it says next shot so I assume its the single one

[dry cloak]

Yes its single

Or a crit string iirc

[limber pawn]

doing this penance for it but 250 crit headshot seems rough

also its a little difficult to swap between them constantly at least for me

[dry cloak]

Revolver

[limber pawn]

yeah Im running revolver

also

I guess with this one I will always get 1 ammo back in my clip right?

so I dont even need to reload

[dry cloak]

Yep

[limber pawn]

that'd help

I'll take it

[grand perch]

managed to complete 2 havoc 40s with a WS tac axe build. first recording got corrupted, but second one is up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OtXFeVIqUQ

next step: complete h40 with this build sans dying. then move on to tac axe + shredder pistol build

[faint beacon]

But…. Taxe is bad…

[hot nest]

No, it's for ascended people

[faint beacon]

Talking to someone who uses Taxe 7 frequently 🚬

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/pestrica-jester-true-he's-true-morgan-freeman-gif-13301540795600688509

[dry cloak]

I need to pick up.my taxe gameplay on vet

[faint beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-cd-sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-eggman-dr-eggman-gif-6513385627739669387

[lyric portal]

what to run on shovel?

mk 7 is the best right?

[sinful swallow]

Don't you feel like taxe takes just a bit too long on armor?

[tame lodge]

1 or 7

[pseudo fiber]

Mk1 gang

[tame lodge]

Uncanny Strike + Decimator/Skullcrusher

Or thrust on the 7

1 maniac+carapace/flak

7 Carapace+ flak

[lyric portal]

ok i will try it out

deci or skullcrusher, wich is better hordeclear?

[tame lodge]

Probably Skullcrusher

It's a debuff that makes enemies take more damage during stagger which shovel is good at

Deci would be strength, which is damage, cleave and stagger

So it would still help with horde clearing

Shovel is pretty fast so even if you drop deci you could probably stack it quickly

[arctic rampart]

As a shovel non-entushiast. I like the bonk on it, it seems fairly fast. But killing time sux. I think I used mk1 with uncanncy & decimator. Is mk7 better kill speed? For horde & mixed. I usually like light attack spam more but dont mind mk1 since bonk

[faint meadow]

So for the mk6 Lasgun.
been doing Crit on weakpoint/Weakpoint crit dmg with Flak and Crit %.
but ive seen others using Ghost more than the Weakpoint Crit Dmg.

[arctic rampart]

Ghost is for those that can't use dodge

Its (IMO) a wasted blessing. More damages more better

[tame lodge]

Ghost funny reciprocity proc

And Deadly Accurate is more used on the IIb than the others

[hollow ibex]

Yeah ghost is really good lol

[grand perch]

Yeah it does. Part of the challenge

[tame lodge]

The good news is that you can stun lock them armored fools

[faint meadow]

So im kinda stuck with the Mk6, even though i do think the mk9 is better but i hate the woodstock. and Fatshark refuses to put out better skins to remove that. I'd love to use the Hellbore but those irons are horrid. and also..woodstocks.
It;s been doing alright so far. Carapace is obvs no go but the Combat Blade handles that well enough

[unreal nova]

1 is horde, 7 is mixed but generally worse at either. 3 is st crusher cracker.

[steep flower]

3 is also horde

[unreal nova]

It's just not as good at it. It's really more cracking shells.

[steep flower]

I wanna show you how good it actually is at horde clearing

[unreal nova]

Compared to 1?

[steep flower]

Yes

[steep flower]

I return home and i’ll show ya

[unreal nova]

Because I know It still has decent horde clear, but 1 is the best for it.

[latent parcel]

Dont show karien the karry anymore power

shes already to strong papa

[steep flower]

Shut up

[latent parcel]

Dont unleash that kind of power on the world.

[steep flower]

I like strong women

[latent parcel]

[unreal nova]

Wot.

[unreal nova]

Wot.

[latent parcel]

i see @unreal nova leveling her oggy

she getting ready!

[unreal nova]

Nu, rejected.

@steep flower What did you show him?

[steep flower]

I showed him nothing

As in i did nothing

[unreal nova]

HRM.

[steep flower]

Someone else might had

[latent parcel]

[unreal nova]

But only like 3 people knew.

[steep flower]

I’m out of the question

[void dragon]

Wait so you folks are embracing the Ogryn ways?

Cool

[unreal nova]

No, I want penance points.

[void dragon]

That still counts

[unreal nova]

Why do you think I'm suffering Stealth Loner Zealot?

I fail at the loner bit.

[void dragon]

Because you are deranged and crazy and you probably deserved it for playing zealot

[unreal nova]

Like HARD.

Excuse me, i like my book zealot.

[latent parcel]

@vernal trench loves kariens book zealot

[void dragon]

Karien into book clubs

[unreal nova]

Just too expensive and space taking though. Sighs.

[void dragon]

Reads a cool story about the ogryn that could

[vernal trench]

fuck no

[void dragon]

You only need one book tho
*Shows the book of "Why you must love the Emperor"

[latent parcel]

smelter duo when

[steep flower]

Karien is a nerd thats why shes into book

[unreal nova]

Nu.

All yuri.

[unreal nova]

I heard you like books so you get books on books.

[void dragon]

When you want the smite experience but want to try other classes

[vernal trench]

Later today

[steep flower]

Later today?

[vernal trench]

Yes

[latent parcel]

When

[vernal trench]

idka sk apap

ask

[kind scarab]

apap

[wild vortex]

You guys doing havoc?

[steep flower]

Not yet

[steep flower]

I’m not a painkiller i’m a painbringer

[kind scarab]

The first hit brings the pain, the second one silences it

[steep flower]

I like that quote

[unreal nova]

You just need books.

[lusty ether]

That's goin' in tha' book.

[mellow cobalt]

Space book :)

[grand perch]

this part of a loading tip gave me a stupid idea

[fleet garden]

any decent stuff coming for vet in the patch or is it just ogryn rework?

[tropic halo]

This is Ogryntide now

[tame lodge]

We dun'o

[tall torrent]

power sword no longer turns off from getting stunned by enemy melee hits

that's about it?

[tame lodge]

Oh wait
Helbore Weapon Specialist

(still odd build)

[tall torrent]

oh yea that too

ranged weapons' melee special action attacks now scale from +Matk speed

[tame lodge]

Watch me (revolver) whip

[fleet garden]

well, its time for bolter still then

[faint beacon]

Braced and Vigil bash buffs ig also

[fleet garden]

qol fix that is a buff, nice

[faint beacon]

It’s there!

[fleet garden]

I dont use psword anymore though, its another more sword or axes

[hollow ibex]

psword meta is coming back

not that it ever really left

[fleet garden]

axes feel way better then psword and so does the other sword

[hollow ibex]

psword is janky as hell, but when it's on, you do feel like a fucking god

[tall torrent]

I've come to appreciate power sword more after 1200hrs of rashad

it's neat

[tropic halo]

You just need to be built different to use the Psword correctly

[fleet garden]

ive used psword so much though

[hollow ibex]

i spent a lot of time with ps

then i spent a lot of time with rashad

and now it's back to ps

[tall torrent]

nah it's very very easy lol

[tropic halo]

Until the one groaner on the back hits you and removes the empower

[hollow ibex]

glad that's being removed next patch

[sharp epoch]

it was such a big nerf

[tall torrent]

Just remember to push enemies lol it’s not that complicated

[arctic rampart]

shredder buffs. it'll be like the olden times unless it isn't!

[tame lodge]

Vraks lite

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[fleet garden]

monka

[sharp epoch]

man we havent got anything in a while not even weapons

[fleet garden]

I know

slow updates ngl

[hollow ibex]

fatshart moment

[formal ice]

Big update if you are ogryn main

It seems you aren't by what you are saying

[fleet garden]

vet main

dont play anything else

[formal ice]

Imagine playing just one class

Which is Vet

[arctic rampart]

What if you like shooting guns? Vets probably the best choice

[formal ice]

I like shooting guns

Big guns

Big = better

[arctic rampart]

Why are you in the veteran channel if you're an ogryn? Did you get lost?

[formal ice]

Because I play vet

Duh

What demand is that?

[arctic rampart]

Man I hope more ogryns show up in the next update if only for the voice line interactions

[narrow frost]

@faint beacon shockmaul VA

liking it

[faint beacon]

Cannot for the life of me get into Shaul

but im considering trying PS VA next time I get on

[sharp epoch]

wow they got a voice actor for the shock maul

[bleak blade]

vetanomicon when?

[tall torrent]

Wait 3-4 months

[arctic rampart]

how long will the ogrynomicon take to update

[faint beacon]

Apparently they’re working overtime on it right now

[hollow ibex]

they prob work more than fatshart devs

[bleak blade]

what would you save in a housefire: big ammo pickup, or your mother

[austere mica]

Ammo is an accessory

[lost frigate]

easy shoot mom for extra ammo from vet perk

[keen grotto]

so uncanny strike is the only perk that carry overs DOTs?

or any other rending perk?

[austere mica]

It needs to be a global self buff

[tall torrent]

No

Any buff that’s global will apply

[keen grotto]

so any rending perks will boost DOTs then?

[tall torrent]

well, no

not all rending is global

hand cannon and ruthless backstab aren't, as examples

there're also other types of damage bonuses that can be global

[keen grotto]

elaborate on said "global" buffs

[tall torrent]

Slaughterer (blessing)
+8%Tstr per kill via melee weapon’s melee attack

Tstr (unless it checks for a specific condition) applies to all damage instances currently actively dealt from the player

This includes DOT

[keen grotto]

oh jeez really

and here i keep hearing tanner glazing on uncanny strike

[tall torrent]

Another blessing that looks similar is Headtaker but it’s +5%Mstr which only applies to melee attacks while melee weapon is in hand

[tall torrent]

Stop watching tanner

[iron marten]

Lmao

He is a good player, he just has some wild takes

[keen grotto]

true im just nitpicking some of his points in his videos

[tall torrent]

He’s bad and he has bad takes all around

[keen grotto]

but holy shit he cant stop with uncanny

[austere mica]

Only some of them?

[tall torrent]

Nah, just don’t watch him forever

There’re FAR better sources for information

Don’t bother with DT YouTubers for info

[keen grotto]

that bad huh

[tall torrent]

There’re only like 2 that actually post useful info

[keen grotto]

like jefficus and mister e?

[tall torrent]

And neither are YouTubers

[iron marten]

I haven't watched tanner since the talent tree update so uhhh

[tall torrent]

lol no both are ass

[keen grotto]

damn

[tall torrent]

The 2 good ones are jsat and hank

There’re other sources of info

You should more or less write YT off completely tbh

It’s just clickbait/ragebait

[austere mica]

Its good for impressive gameplay

But actual written guides or conversations are better for info

[tall torrent]

U can always dm me if u have questions

I’m prob one of the better sources?

[austere mica]

Yeah I would say so

[iron marten]

I'm just amazed you're still making guides for dt tbh

[austere mica]

Best for pure numbers that we have

[iron marten]

I thought the burn out would've kicked in

[austere mica]

Other people give better contextual advice

[keen grotto]

sadly tanner was recommended to me a while back

[tall torrent]

Kuli is better at number crunching

[tall torrent]

Well u now know the truth

[keen grotto]

J_sat and Hank seems to be under the radar for me despite having more views

[tall torrent]

He’s just entirely not worth watching lol

[austere mica]

I haven't seen them talk anywhere though

Or I'm blind

Probably blind

[iron marten]

Vet chat is the only chat I check I haven't seen them either so lol

[iron marten]

Though I've seen Azrael and others mention him

[keen grotto]

are two of these guys here in the Darktide Discord?

[tall torrent]

Hank is

[keen grotto]

nice

[austere mica]

Hank mods here

[tall torrent]

Jsat also is

Neither talk frequently (never seen jsat talk here lol)

[keen grotto]

just lowkey chilling then

[tall torrent]

But yea if u got technical/information related questions, u can always dm me

[iron marten]

btw what happened to Azrael? Did he leave?

[tall torrent]

he's still there

[iron marten]

I remember him doing crazy solo stuff

[tall torrent]

but he got doxxed a while back

[iron marten]

Oh

[tall torrent]

so he made a bot to auto-delete his messages when he talks

[iron marten]

Fair enough

[keen grotto]

thanks I dont really min/max in darktide that much and until havoc

granted havoc is stilll kind of a mess

[austere mica]

Don't worry

[tall torrent]

Not necessarily min max, just understanding game mechanics that the game doesn’t tell u

[austere mica]

Its getting harder

[junior grail]

All I want is the ever-elusive Chaos Wastes but Darktide

[iron marten]

Did havoc 40 like twice then quit playing havoc altogether

Not a fun mode

[keen grotto]

i should be saying this in zealot channel but i keep seeing him not staggering gunners with pus skin using chorus when spectating

[tall torrent]

Pus doesn’t affect stagger reduction

Enemies just innately have higher stagger reduction (scales based on havoc rank) in havoc

[keen grotto]

yeah some one made a quick poll in youtube that alot of people got burned out in havoc

[tall torrent]

In any case it’s going away in <1 week so no big deal

New mutators are way more interesting than current ones

Although the core systems of havoc still has many issues

[keen grotto]

still knowing these mutators can affect monters might be a problem

its either burst or get bursted

[tall torrent]

Not quite? AFAIK only elite and specialist enemies get slightly higher stagger reduction

Which doesn’t matter too much given almost every attack that successfully staggers in base game will also stagger in havoc

Very very very few exceptions

[keen grotto]

hopefully thats the case

Fatshark really wants to add beastmen in the game again

[tall torrent]

We already have them

Pus harden reaper in havoc
Nurgle blessed ragers in maelstrom

[keen grotto]

yeah and the next is walking standard bearers

so the buffs are there at all times

fml

[stoic thorn]

I love how my team just starts jerking it in the airlock with the stimms

[junior grail]

All the while, Hadron is listening in

[umbral scaffold]

Elevator jerk circles

[stuck tree]

i ahve tacos

[lost frigate]

can i have some

[stuck tree]

no

[uncut pebble]

Free thinkers when elevators with stimms:

[uncut pebble]

If they don't nerf shooters a bit to lessen the aids of playing the mode I will riot.

[stoic thorn]

They start jaking it

[uncut pebble]

I'm fine with them being deadly, and I'm fine with them being accurate, but these guys make irl green berets look like fresh recruits.

[unreal nova]

They also shoot through walls and behind them.

[uncut pebble]

Way overtuned.

Oh don't even get me started on them shattering the laws of reality.

That's a whole other ball of wax.

I am just sick to death of one fucking guy instantly downing or outright killing someone and the constant shoehorning of builds to mitigate shooter annoyance.

Like, gunners and reapers are fine, they're elites, they make sense to be able to shred you, but one single stalker dropping you in 3 shots, when he fires like 8 in a row, with perfect accuracy, in under a second, is unbelievably annoying.

[unreal nova]

More or less why I do 1 weekly game and dook off to gremlin around elsewhere.

Stalker? Any shooter.

[vernal trench]

Shooters honestly suck but are very managable still

[uncut pebble]

That's what the chaff shooters are. The guys in rags and the guys without gas masks are stalkers, the guys with gas masks are just scab shooters.

[unreal nova]

Are they just the same or something?

[uncut pebble]

No, but I could not tell you what the difference is.

[hollow ibex]

stalkers have longer bursts iirc

[amber ether]

shooters have bayonet attack which is faster

stalkers need to pull out swords or clubs or whatever to smack you with

as for if theres a damage difference I have no clue

[unreal nova]

To be fair, all that matters is they kill you fast from half the map away.

Aimbot lvls from that far.

[amber ether]

om nom nom nom nom

[calm shard]

Stalkers have longer bursts, can walk while shooting, and will in fact shoot you if you are not actively stabbing them

They have a much shorter distance before they consider trying to melee you instead, and higher aggression

so they're effectively just more dangerous and annoying in every single way

[stoic thorn]

Trained moebian 6th veteran vs random ass dude we picked up from tertium

[faint beacon]

For some reason the methhead we picked up off the street and trained for about 10 minutes

is more effective

than the battle hardened VIth soldier

[silver trellis]

Because said battle hardened soldiers can endure as much as a wet towel due to being corrupted by papa Nurgle

[unreal nova]

Faith and fervour or something.

[grand perch]

Nurgle does the opposite though. Takes the pain away and makes folk hardy

It's just game logic that we can face tank a reaper salvo and then disembowel them in seconds

[faint beacon]

It’s less the rejects it’s more the shoddily armored Scab Stalkers that shoot in quicker bursts are way bigger threats than the actual VIth soldiers

[grand perch]

But... Scab stalkers are just 6th soldiers too?

[calm shard]

yes but scabs have shooters and stalkers mostly spawn alongside elites

Every single basic dreg ranged enemy is a stalker

[atomic wyvern]

Yo anyone know what godroll is best for that combat shotgun? Saw a riot enforcer build but it doesn’t display the stats the gun needs

I’ll try get the build link but bus WiFi is horrendous

[dry cloak]

If it has mobility is mobility

Its mobility

I checked

[atomic wyvern]

No it like

Dlesnt show

Ah alright

Guessed mobility early and spent like 100k on combat shotties so guess I got lucky there lol

(Got 0 60 mobils 😡)

[dry cloak]

Yes it always mob or defence

[atomic wyvern]

Checks out lol

Gonna be refreshing to use a non meta loadout soon

Beyond tired of recon dueling meta spam lmfao

[dry cloak]

Play some exe stance with vigil autoguns

Or infatry lasgun

[atomic wyvern]

That’s just criminal lmfao

[dry cloak]

Why criminal?

It works wonders

[atomic wyvern]

It’s a hipfire gun innit

Or am I thinking of another gun

[dry cloak]

Braced is the hipfire one

Vigil is the more sniper one

[atomic wyvern]

Oh

That one.

😔

[manic panther]

i love braced autogun exe stance

very funny

[atomic wyvern]

Bro the vigil was a fucking nightmare for me on my most recent vet guy

The fucking ADS recoil 😭

[dry cloak]

Dont move

[atomic wyvern]

Why

[dry cloak]

Really dont move when you shoot

[atomic wyvern]

Something behind me?

Oh

[dry cloak]

The recoil is near zero

[atomic wyvern]

Fair enuff

[dry cloak]

Then

[atomic wyvern]

More of a run and gun guy thiugh

Ngl I remember I used to

Rock a Krieger build back in the olden days

The bayonet 2 tapped maulers

And the focus fire chargeshot could tear fucking holes through warlord class titans lmao

Good times

[dry cloak]

It still does

2 shotting crushers for 0 ammo

[atomic wyvern]

Yeah but they’ve

Nerfed the bayonet haven’t they

The funny

[dry cloak]

No?

[atomic wyvern]

They haven’t?

It’s kriegin time fuckers

[dry cloak]

I see those apparent nerfs as logical fixes

[atomic wyvern]

Define

Logical fixes

[dry cloak]

As you can physically go from equiping a gun to full on extended arms in 0.0seconds

[atomic wyvern]

Ehh

[dry cloak]

Yes helbore stabs now have a delay

[atomic wyvern]

Lore accurate imo lol

No damage reduction?

English pls

I haven’t learnt all the keywords and phrases yet 😔

[dry cloak]

I dont think so i need to check

[atomic wyvern]

Oh ok

To be fair not much of an issue for me

I’d typically run up to say a rager

Give em a love jab in the cerebral cortex

Go back and give him the firing squad treatment

[dry cloak]

Helbore stabs only get a delay

[atomic wyvern]

It’s kriegin timeeeee

I was told it got nerfed horrendously lmao

[dry cloak]

People over exagerate

[atomic wyvern]

Yeah I’ve learnt that here over time

[dry cloak]

It will simply not be as spammable as before

[atomic wyvern]

Works for me

Definitely a logical fix either way

I remember ploughing through hordes with the bayonet

Atrocious CD speed

[dry cloak]

Also the stab should not be your primary melee

[atomic wyvern]

I binded my fucking right click to the bayonet lmfao

Come to think I should have set up an auto clicker whilst I was at it

[atomic wyvern]

😔

Might aswell use the shovel for funnies

[dry cloak]

Yep

I mean it still will fuck up occasional rager or melee guy

But not replace your melee

[atomic wyvern]

Yeah I get that

Shovels pretty good for crowd control last I checked

So should be fine

[dry cloak]

It still does

[atomic wyvern]

I’m a little bumsweat with melees so I’m gonna try hope for the best

But yeah thx for the info

Definitely looking forwards to krieging it all over the heretics

[dry cloak]

For run and gun tactics try shotguns and brautos

[atomic wyvern]

Kk

Gonna have to like

Set up multiple perk decks after college which is gonna be tiring

But shouldn’t be all bad lol

[dry cloak]

Also try to not use the shout

[atomic wyvern]

Exe?

[dry cloak]

Voc

[atomic wyvern]

Oh yeah yeah

Probably still gonna have to figure that out the hard way but the advice is appreciated

[dry cloak]

Playing without voc will.make you a better player

Im still waiting for stub pistol

[manic panther]

• it's more fun to play with exe stance rather than voc

[dry cloak]

Question to people with more experience. How well would laspitol exe stance would work

[dry cloak]

Yep

Mk3 vigil with exe stance and mmf works wonders imo

Especially when crits hit

[manic panther]

press f, hit head with laspistol, kill heretic

[dry cloak]

Aye

[manic panther]

mmm, i like brautos or bolter

bolter exe stance my favourite vet build rn

[calm shard]

helbore exe stance

just one shot 4 crushers in a row

easy game honestly

[manic panther]

that is a good combo too i have to say

but something with one tapping enemies with bolter just

[dry cloak]

Played that before old love called

Also played helbore exe stance but my finger did not like it

[manic panther]

before the nerf of the bayonet, i used to play a bayonet exe stance build with focus target

my god the dmg on it

hit around 6k per stab on a monstrosity if i remember correctly

if not more

[dry cloak]

I mean we have dedicated monster killer weapons

And helbores bayonet is not one of them

[manic panther]

but it could be forged into one

would it be the best? No

would it be funny? Yes

[dry cloak]

And then we end up with toothpick being better at killing armor than thunderhammer

[manic panther]

exactly lol

because it makes sense

[dry cloak]

It does not

[manic panther]

no it really doesn't

[grand perch]

For April's fools they should switch damage profiles for DS4 and taxe

Would be so funny seeing tryhards get floored by waves of armour with no clue what's going on

[thorn lark]

[fleet garden]

wake me up when meta changes

[remote sonnet]

Then you shall sleep forever.

[junior grail]

Maybe Autopistol meta will return

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-traumatized-cat-gif-7852054576948114551

[scarlet crescent]

[tame lodge]

And then they went on a thousand years slumber

[stuck tree]

is this mid

[stiff glacier]

servicable

just swap speedload and refine crit damage to unyielding or flak damage buff

[fleet garden]

when m43 hits, maybe ill have another meta

[stiff glacier]

and what meta would it be?

[vagrant ibex]

I wish the Mk V Helbore lasgun could have the piercing bayonnet, instead of cutting

[stiff glacier]

or cutting one could be a bit better at it

[vagrant ibex]

Yeah, it's so dumb how easy you can kill anything unarmoured with it

But I think I'm mistaking, the Mk V already have the piercing bayonnet, it's the Mk IV that have the cutting one, and to wish I want it the piercing one

But............. Hey there is a mod to customise the appearance of the weapons

And it affects the secondary action too

[queen fox]

It should be tap for pierce, hold for cut

[grand perch]

Not in the case of bayonet

You're not going to stab differently with another bayonet skin

[steep flower]

*mk IV

[placid swan]

Chef kiss?

[vagrant ibex]

It is

[placid swan]

Perks and Blessings recommendations? Im more of an infantry lasgun fan myself.

[dry cloak]

Infernus dum dum. Perks maniac and crit chance

Now you get shocktropper in your tree and do not have need for ammo

[placid swan]

Sweet, many thanks

[queen fox]

I prefer collateral dump but mobility is also ok

I just like going fast

[steep flower]

Collateral actually matters in havoc due to highier hp pools

[steep flower]

Infernus/dum dum/headhunter for blessings, crit chance/flak/unyielding for perks

[placid swan]

Im guessing Infernus/DumDum+CritChance/Unyielding is a boss melter?

[steep flower]

Or dum dum/headhunter; infernus has more general use and works well with headhunter

[smoky sparrow]

this is what im currently running for stealth vet, you guys got any notes on improvement?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e78334c-f06c-4dea-8aa4-9023f30449a0/stealth-vet-7

[steep flower]

If you don’t plan on having a boss melter you go with flak and blessings is headhunter/infernus for me; in that setup you don’t need shook trooper if you don’t magdump on everything; you get a free skill tree point you can invest into something else

[steep flower]

Don’t use ‚for the emperor’ with invis; it gets activated the moment you go invis and you lose majority of its benefits usually

Unlike marksman or close dmg one

[smoky sparrow]

yeah i keep swapping that one with born leader

[steep flower]

They even mention that they activate when you exit invis

[smoky sparrow]

thats pretty much a dead node

dont feel like either one is too good

[umbral scaffold]

Had a nice damnation run last night with knife/revolver gonna make some music video later

[steep flower]

Primarily for you; team still benefits

[smoky sparrow]

ill swap back to born leader then, thx for the advice!

[steep flower]

Also unless 5% dmg aura affects some breakpoint dont use it; use survivalist - you will have huge ammo problems

Others too

[unreal nova]

Or you run with another vet.

[smoky sparrow]

its a skill point thing

but ill experiment some to try to fit it in

[steep flower]

It costs the same if you go for survivalist so no tax

[old prism]

So I’m new to veteran. How can I slide and shoot at the same time?

[steep flower]

Grenade tinkerer seems enticing but in majority of the situations it is not needed, especially when you’ll learn to funnel enemies closer for your grenades

[umbral scaffold]

Not sure I would bring mk XIV revolver to havoc

But damnation is still alright

[steep flower]

Hammy you are not new stop trolling

[old prism]

I struggle in heresy damnit

[smoky sparrow]

i jsut love running max dmg grenades with uncanny strike

but i do see your point

do you have a stealth build with survivalist i can look at?

[steep flower]

Everyone runs bolt pistol, sometimes laz pistol; nobody runs any of the revolvers

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah I use bolter

[steep flower]

I do but im at work, can share when i return home

[umbral scaffold]

But making bolt pistol almost finished

[steep flower]

If you want good stealth build ask @vernal trench

He has it field tested in havoc duos with me

So its good, can vouch

[smoky sparrow]

no worries, ill experiment some on my own

[umbral scaffold]

Yes experiment have fun

[smoky sparrow]

seems like i need to say bye bye to grenade tinkerer for survivalist

that irks me

[umbral scaffold]

I made db shotgun stealth vet that was fun

[unreal nova]

Stop failing at heresy like me. I'm the bottom barrel heresy* player.

[unreal nova]

Just don't let him run near ledges, risk of getting stuck.

[umbral scaffold]

Stealth is great the low profile is beautifull

[smoky sparrow]

when i dont want to worry about my team i run stealth vet

when i say fuck my team i run stealth zealot

[umbral scaffold]

But your team have to deal with more enemies when using low profile

[smoky sparrow]

theyll be fine

emperor protects

[unreal nova]

Probs better if you know your team is skilled. Lul.

[steep flower]

Just like yesterday ye?

[steep flower]

Never fuck your team; prostitution is bad

[unreal nova]

Yes, am bad. Worse cos you guys woke me for H40.

[steep flower]

Low profile allows you to most of the time attend to matters where normally you could not

Its one of the best augments for stealth

[steep flower]

Not bad enough to not carry tho

[smoky sparrow]

whats the hooker lore in 40k?

is it sedition or heresy?

[unreal nova]

WDYM??? I provide damage auras and books, nothing more.

[umbral scaffold]

Yes I love it but sometimes the aggro seems overwhelming for teammates

[steep flower]

And that was enough for us not to lose

[drifting ridge]

What are the good melees for vet? Aside from obvious dueling sword and knife

[umbral scaffold]

Shovel

[steep flower]

Thats on them then; if you struggle againts a horde on anyone but vet something is wrong

[trim badger]

Power Sword still good

[drifting ridge]

Which shovel?

[smoky sparrow]

i really enjoy the rashad on my autogun build

[steep flower]

Mk I & Mk III; try both

[unreal nova]

1 or 3. 3 for cracking crushers.

[smoky sparrow]

i still think rashad with bromentum is the most satisfying melee to use

[drifting ridge]

What mark? I have been trying it out a bit lately it feels a bit wonky, tho since I'm used to relic blade the power sword feels like a gigantic downgrade

[drifting ridge]

Rashad is fantastic yeah

[trim badger]

I don't remember now bleh has been a long while since I've last used it

I'm going crazy with knife now

[smoky sparrow]

i isually use mk6

or mk vi

whichever you prefer writing wise

[drifting ridge]

Opinions on chainsword? It's been kind of a comfort weapon for me when I was leveling vet

[smoky sparrow]

the stab push attack is very nice

you can also block cancel the power up animation

to stab even faster

[drifting ridge]

That's super cool to know 🤔

[umbral scaffold]

Hmm I have a question seems that when you are doing great on mission killing a lot of specials etc the Directors seems to throw more stuff at you character and aggro seems also be more towards you or It just imagination

[smoky sparrow]

yeah director knows if your team is actually competent

turns regular missions into hi int

[drifting ridge]

Adaptive AI ayo

[umbral scaffold]

But if you are good and teammates bad you get all the hell he throws that would U found

[radiant chasm]

Not really

If you are doing good, you tend to be the furthest ahead

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah I guess that's it

[radiant chasm]

And enemies at a distance lock their aggro on the closest target

You are right about the AI adapting to performance

[smoky sparrow]

disablers also usually go for the people splitting from the team

[radiant chasm]

But individual players aren’t targeted besides splitting off from coherency

[balmy flume]

Also as vet, it is worth remembering stray shots can aggro distant enemies too

[smoky sparrow]

my favorite with staff psyker

m1 the world to aggro everything

[unreal nova]

Even DH at a distance.

[smoky sparrow]

shout through walls to aggro even more

when you shout at a wall and you get the 25 stacks

👌

[drifting ridge]

Also, ranged weapons for vet. I've been using a lot of recon lasgun, very much comfort pick. I know plasma is often said to be very strong, what other guns are good?

[balmy flume]

Usually you could see DH far away enough, but yea, there are times where they hide in the most dastardly of places.

And heavens help you if enemy shooters are using a DH for cover.

[smoky sparrow]

autogun is very fun and effective with onslaught

boltpistol also can do very well even without skill support

[unreal nova]

You mean 3 snipers.

[balmy flume]

With the rare exception, most guns for Vet are good TBH

[balmy flume]

Or that, yes.

[drifting ridge]

I see i see

[smoky sparrow]

shottys are still a lil bit underpowered

but thats about it

[drifting ridge]

Ok makes sense

[smoky sparrow]

the fireshotty with flechettes tho

it might not be effective

but its fun af

[unreal nova]

Do not use autopistol unless you are Ainz.

[balmy flume]

If you can get used to it, the shotty with the sniping solid slug round.

[smoky sparrow]

i just wish they differed between the marks instead of just inserting a special shell

[unreal nova]

Just Bistol then.

[balmy flume]

Lol

[radiant chasm]

Slug can be buffed with manstopper

Which gives it even more cleave than zarona revolver

[balmy flume]

An argument could be made for going Boltgun if you BP, but then that is down to what ability you want to run

[unreal nova]

Is more, the slow annoying reload after every shot tbh. Since you basically just wanna mostly special shot.

And WS not working with it.

[balmy flume]

Or the good old double barrel shotty

If you go full Doom mode

[smoky sparrow]

what do you run on it?

i still havent used it outside of maxing mastery

[balmy flume]

I haven’t ran it but I have seen people work wonders with it. Hang on…

https://youtu.be/Jfhy8pXWcYQ?feature=shared

[smoky sparrow]

404 on the build link

[unreal nova]

Oh yeah, that. Only shotgun you can run with WS.

[steep flower]

Old vid

[smoky sparrow]

looks like he has manstopper and deathspitter

also opening salvo seems like a no brainer on the db

[gilded raft]

Run man stopper and flechette with WS. WS gets you a guaranteed crit for massive cleave and 6 stacks of bleed, and reloads for you after 3 melee kills. Bonk bonk bonk, pull shotty, delete horde in 1 shot, repeat

[smoky sparrow]

that sounds sensible

ill try that

you run shout with that?

[gilded raft]

Lotsa fun. I like it with a bleed knife and shredders for an all bleed theme, or the combat axe for opening angry tuna cans easier

The shotty doesn't do anything to carapace, so you'll need something for that (i e. No heavy sword/catachan)

[smoky sparrow]

ill do caxe

go for the jacket instead of doomguy

[gilded raft]

You're an axe wielding shotgun blasting maniac. They won't question your fashion choices as they're getting murdered!

[smoky sparrow]

do you like hurting other people?

[gilded raft]

They're not people anymore when im done

So technically no

[umbral scaffold]

It's there differences in melee noise check for nearby enemies ?

I mean like using knife or shovel for example

[gilded raft]

What do you mean noise?

The noise you make to pull aggro?

[umbral scaffold]

Yes

[gilded raft]

That's not a thing

[umbral scaffold]

Ok

[gilded raft]

Aggro is proximity based

[smoky sparrow]

would be funny if chainweapons were more noisy tho

atleast on trigger pull

[gilded raft]

An enemy will aggro if you're close enough, or another enemy nearby is aggroed

[smoky sparrow]

thunderhammers in lore are noisy as fuck too right?

[gilded raft]

It's a big-ass explosion, so i can't imagine it's exactly acceptable in polite company

[steep flower]

Reloads after 1 melee kill 1 shell

[steep flower]

And 10 kills will reload 1 shell as well

[gilded raft]

Oh yeah, 3 kills is for 100% crit chance

[steep flower]

They should change the numbers on WS

[smoky sparrow]

always prepared is hella busted

and needs an internal cooldown

[gilded raft]

As it Is, it's great for low ammo count weapons

Love it with revolvers, double barrel

Less so for big mag autos

[smoky sparrow]

what perks for db?

[gilded raft]

Flak/maniac

Bleed melts poxwalkers anyway, if the shot doesn't kill them outright, and it doesn't do anything to carapace anyway

[smoky sparrow]

yeah thats what i got the choppa for

[steep flower]

Bleed will finish off a sniper at any distance

[gilded raft]

Yeah, that too. It's weirdly good against mid range gunners as well

I usually waste a second shot on those just to be sure, but ive had bleed finish them off pretty often as well

[smoky sparrow]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e7848ca-8ac4-40af-9986-e458efe86c4c/db-cooper

this is what i came up with

any notes?

i still flip flop between get back in the fight and catch a breath

on pretty much every vet build

with survivalist

[gilded raft]

I prefer thrust on caxe over brutal momentum myself, saves you a hit on crushers

[smoky sparrow]

killing like 6 poxers in one m1 tho

😭

[gilded raft]

Kill 20 in 1 shotgun blast

[smoky sparrow]

also looks like i misclicked demo team for iron will

[gilded raft]

Also, 2 toughness 1 stam for curios will probably scale better for higher diff, you won't need the health with VoC

[smoky sparrow]

ye ur right

ill swap to another 17%

[gilded raft]

Otherwise yeah, that's exactly how i run it,, works great, lotsa fun

[smoky sparrow]

ill go try it rn

thx again!

[gilded raft]

Go get'em soldier!

[steep flower]

No iron will will get you killed alot

[gilded raft]

Wait... He has iron will, no?

[steep flower]

Nope

[gilded raft]

Did i hallucinate it?

Need stronger coffee

[steep flower]

Yes

[smoky sparrow]

yeye i misclicked in the build editor

[gilded raft]

Oh yeah, iron will for sure, move that point over, you won't need the grenade spam, you got shotgun spam

[smoky sparrow]

i got iron will

🫡

[stuck tree]

It’s so odd being short as a vet

[umbral scaffold]

I don't think I had a build without Iron Will

[stuck tree]

I have to aim a little higher

[umbral scaffold]

Or jump

[tall torrent]

Axe
Flak to unarmored or elite

[stuck tree]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-slow-reaction-gif-24865416

My reaction time sometimes in Darktide

[tall torrent]

Stamina curio not needed

Survivalist and superiority complex not needed either

DB shotgun doesn’t have major ammo deficit

[umbral scaffold]

But you get shot less

Hahaha

[stuck tree]

True

The enemy had to aim lower

So being 5’8 has its perks

[gilded raft]

Not being able to reach the top shelf is hilarious though

[stuck tree]

https://tenor.com/view/goatplaybanjo-chat-cat-imposteur-arnaque-gif-2006813440582359871

[gilded raft]

Love watching you shorties get the step stool

[stuck tree]

I can teach enough my arms length

I sometimes jump to get what I want

It ends with me dropping it on the ground

[gilded raft]

Just be taller

Have you considered growing more?

[stuck tree]

never

i like having abit more speed

[umbral scaffold]

Maybe he's short but his spirit is 10 feet tall

[stuck tree]

yeah my "stand"

https://tenor.com/view/jojos-bizarre-adventure-ora-ora-gif-14649361

[umbral scaffold]

I think all ogryn char should be as small as possible

[stuck tree]

gonna draw my tiny veteran next to the space marine i play as

well my legion

[umbral scaffold]

A pocket vet for marine

[stuck tree]

small vet cadian and ultra marine

but its usually small vet cadian and iron warrior

[gilded raft]

What's in your pocket marine? Some gum, lint, my keys, and an angry man with a lasgun sir!

[umbral scaffold]

He could keep you in some sort of box or poke ball

[stuck tree]

wait lemme fix this

[gilded raft]

Like a pack of cigarettes but it's just guards in there.

[umbral scaffold]

Speaking of Pokemon

[steep flower]

Ogryn do be Fighting/Rock type pokemon

[vernal trench]

Gay marines

[stuck tree]

indeed

[steep flower]

Where are lesbian marines?

[umbral scaffold]

Next update

[steep flower]

Oh wait; thats like every male marine on default

[umbral scaffold]

In grim future there are no genders there is only war

[vernal trench]

Papa gay willy

Papa loves willys

[steep flower]

‚Willy, Willy, don’t touch mah willy’

[stuck tree]

tinirriw

TOMORROW

https://tenor.com/view/run-viralhog-speed-fast-french-bulldog-gif-22723481

[vernal trench]

@latent parcel will touch ur willy

[steep flower]

First he needs to touch grass

[vernal trench]

Papa's willy is getting touched today

[unreal nova]

That's Sisters of Battle.

[steep flower]

[stuck tree]

oh dear

[vernal trench]

Just put some on there

[stuck tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280516894486433854/1351780695541940356/bugcat-bugcatsticker.gif

[umbral scaffold]

Any one has that 40k filter? I need to put my picture on dating side

[vernal trench]

Karien be karryin!

[stuck tree]

no but i have this

[unreal nova]

Nu. Also, don't you dare wake me at 5am for H40.

[steep flower]

Resident Chonky

[steep flower]

It was an emergency

[stuck tree]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-tired-baby-gif-27658791

[unreal nova]

And that's how you get 3 mins of stealth loner zealot in H40. I am still halfasleep.

[stuck tree]

but you guys still won

!

[steep flower]

It was funny tho; you laughed

[unreal nova]

Once I realised I have my knoife.