veteran-class

[jaunty sphinx]

Yeah they count as melee kills in general

They're quite good in a pinch too

Respectable single target dps

Not great mind you

But it's really fun to play damnation and just spam bayonet poke

[kind scarab]

Why does it have two

[jaunty sphinx]

Because thats two bolters strapped to each other

I love the storm bolter

[umbral scaffold]

It would be neat to see possibly combi weapons

But they are relics

[kind scarab]

So effectively the gun that was already "fuck your wrists" just became "Wrists were never an option"

[umbral scaffold]

Only terminators really can weild them

A ogryn possibly could

[kind scarab]

Techpriest with gyroscopic mechadendrite and recoil dampeners

[umbral scaffold]

Or that

Lol

[lusty ether]

it's a storm bolter

[rough cobalt]

Is "Leave No One Behind" Talent any good? or it's such a small difference it's not worth taking

[jaunty sphinx]

Not really worth taking

[rough cobalt]

🙏

[jaunty sphinx]

You generally wanna build around staying alive and using your abilities as your safety net instead of building to lose

There's better nodes

[rough cobalt]

I gave up this and took weapon specialist keystone instead

[jaunty sphinx]

Much better lol

I love weapons spec

Born to weapons spec forced to focus target

[unreal nova]

Run away after penances back to WS.

[jaunty sphinx]

Yeah

[unreal nova]

Bonus when your last penance is WS.

Mostly cos you can't hit headshots well. XD

[jaunty sphinx]

I can hit headshots I just think weapon spec makes melee feel really good

And makes the psword dodge useable

[hollow ibex]

WS is just a very cool keystone

and my most played keystone, for no particular reason of course

[unreal nova]

I just use it to hahayes fast(er) knoife yesyes.

[jaunty sphinx]

I should try that

[unreal nova]

Just be careful not to dodge yourself off a map.

[jaunty sphinx]

I'm a brain genius I so I'll never do that

[unreal nova]

If you say so. DS5 pen dump is funni with it.

[jaunty sphinx]

Don't you dump cleave?

[unreal nova]

DS5 is defence instead of cleave damage.

Your dodge is hilarious with def and mobility.

Is also funni on IJ/momentum zealot.

[jaunty sphinx]

Riiiight

[unreal nova]

Don't need a boss/captain/etc to knock you back when you fling yourself on demand already. XD

Zealot more so since don't need charges.

[unreal nova]

Look, it's funni non-meta things.

[tall torrent]

Don’t ask me, I don’t even think of finesse as multiplier values now

[hollow ibex]

But if you don't know, who will 😭

[grand perch]

If you don't shut it and go kill some heretics, reject, you'll never live to find out

[dry cloak]

kerf iirc

[faint beacon]

Could just do the math yourself

[dry cloak]

this is internet. math is hard

[faint beacon]

I’m planning the day before to see what the numbers on headshot with it are before vs after buff

Grey 80 damage

[dry cloak]

with shredder?

[faint beacon]

Probably throw it at path to let him update the guide

[faint beacon]

Also yes Ius AP

[dry cloak]

but damn columnus mk3 became my favourite vet gun

it just clicks

better than bolter in my hands

[faint beacon]

That’s one I physically just cannot get into

Agri IX absolutely

[dry cloak]

and i for the love of god cant get into agrip 9

[orchid hemlock]

Guys

[dry cloak]

yes

what orcka

[dreamy spade]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e3234f8-fa1c-4a39-ad8c-f49aff5a9ce8/meta-vet-2

been using this for havoc 40

stupidly good

[dreamy spade]

Nades have:
+50% radius
+25% dmg
20% chance to have 2
regen like crazy so i can keep spamming
infinite cleave
knock over bulwarks, crushers and stagger monsters
great synergy with talents for allies like "scourge" or "delight in destruction"
100% rendering to 12 stacks of bleed

[faint beacon]

That is no where near as meta as you can make it

Besides if it’s H40 you should probably be running Surv for your team

[orchid hemlock]

my question is how do you deal with puss harden?

[faint beacon]

Bleed DOT from shredders

[tawny badger]

"and stagger monsters"
except for when they don’t

[faint beacon]

It does it when it feels like it

[orchid hemlock]

yeah but what if they are like across the map shooting at u?

[tawny badger]

just throw better

take lessons from scab bombers

[orchid hemlock]

nades are the solution to everything

[faint beacon]

Hail Mary that shit cause why are you playing Vet on Pus Hardened in the first place

Literally the hardest counter modifier to Vet

[orchid hemlock]

im better

i got true survivor on a PUB lvl 40 with Vet against puss harden

doubleled the damage of the 2 psykers

[faint beacon]

Shredder spam just does that

Literally the best thing on vet aside of abusing the fuck out of DS or Knife

[orchid hemlock]

no I used recon

[faint beacon]

With Infernus?

[orchid hemlock]

yesir

[faint beacon]

Yeah that’s why

Infernus is just extremely strong on Recon and especially on Vet

Infernus Recon and what Plasma?

Unless you’re running BP solely for shredders

Are the bread and butter of Havoc Vet

[orchid hemlock]

this is what I used: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da78034-dbda-4eff-aebc-f5660464fab7/vet-havoc-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[faint beacon]

Yeah thats pretty much hitting everything you need for H40 Vet

PS I don’t really use cause I prefer mobility when shit gets bad

[faint meadow]

ideal dump stat on Infantry Las?

[grizzled pebble]

This one was 32 mins havoc 40 with pus and 21st. Bistol does okay there just take like 4 or so shots to kill specials. On elite gunners it only takes 2 or 3. I didn't even take much ammo it's quite efficient.

I run left side tho for 30% weakspot damage to boost bistol damage

And + elite damage

21 hp damage taken Xd

[junior needle]

Note that this is due to the particulars of havoc and not necessarily the strength of the blessing in a vacuum

[dreamy spade]

Shredder stagger on monsters is pretty reliable

As opposed to hounds

[dreamy spade]

I managed to knock one off an edge

Chaos spawn is always staggered, BoN and pogryn are unreliable ig

[faint beacon]

Hence me saying why run Veteran at all on pus hardened LMAO

[wheat stratus]

recon inferus is the bomb

long range purge staff

[tall torrent]

no, just needs them to be in blast center

as long as they're not in their post-stagger immunity phase

[vagrant ibex]

Noooooooooooooooooooo

Always must be a useful stat, that's why I can't buy any relic sword or blaze greatsword ffs

Or drop a good one

[junior needle]

Maybe by the time that gets cycled out I'll start playing again

Fatshark needs to add some real content to make that happen though

[half path]

Every havoc 40 I’ve done on vet has been with an infantry lasgun

Infantry lasguns strongest soldier

[faint beacon]

“Honorable mention” type weapons are anything with a laser

For the sole purpose of Shocktrooper

[balmy flume]

I have to say
Bolter and Exec stance feels far better for killing stuff in Havoc, compared to Bolt Pistol and shout.

[hollow ibex]

bistol is more of a buff stick than a lethal ranged weapon tbh

[deep bone]

Based

[balmy flume]

Fair, and I have done enough Havoc to realize damage is king…
Although still can’t quite get myself to use Plasma…yet.

[dreamy spade]

Yeah I'm just using bistol with weapon specialist and lethal prox

[vagrant ibex]

Hmmm I think I can deal with -2% of stability instead of 80%

[tropic halo]

Eh i think that is fine

Not much change with only 2% of difference

[junior needle]

Only on single targets

[hollow ibex]

wrong

literally unplayable

[tropic halo]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

[gilded raft]

for a mag-dump bolter build (i.e. no surgical) I'd consider stability the dump stat

I'd rather move better since I'm mag dumping bosses and mixed hordes anyway

[orchid hemlock]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Hf2wtyAfTNo?si=r6m2BMOSN92i2UlF

[trim badger]

Finally... the entire set on my hands

[sterile phoenix]

Any builds for the infantry lasgun or is it sort of just a moot point?

[gilded raft]

Build for crit, grab the ammo refund on crit with las weapons on the left tree, and slap infernus on it.

Beyond that, it works with pretty much everything

Aim for heads of course

[heavy rover]

infantry las is pretty useful if you want to be even more ammo efficient than recon las. Or if you want to take advantage of Ghost

[sterile phoenix]

Plasma dump stat?

[gilded raft]

Damage. It's too strong

[hollow ibex]

check pins

and @tired egret

[junior needle]

Havoc has done strange things to the metagame in my absence

People actually recommend infernus on ilas now

[wheat stratus]

when you are scammed on ammo you do desperate things 😭

[teal lance]

Does Veteran have a good anti-large melee? I’m trying to get off of Krak grenades.

[wheat stratus]

ds4 the classic, rashad heavy also does decent

[narrow frost]

P-sword, DS, rachad

[old prism]

Definitely not tac axe

[narrow frost]

fuck you

taxe for the win

[old prism]

I agree veteran needs elite deleting options, vet shovels needs some love

Basic shovel with uncanny skullcrusher/decimator is also not too bad

[junior needle]

Flesh tearer
Lacerate
Bleed knife
With the bleed talent

[old prism]

Could be better tho

[old prism]

I respect that

[junior needle]

(Don't actually do this, lacerate is a trap)

[narrow frost]

?

[old prism]

Knife uncanny lacerate is also a good elite remover

[austere mica]

Lacerate can be forced to work

With sufficient skill

[junior needle]

Lacerate has nothing to do with skill

[old prism]

It’s keje’s go to melee on vet, he does well with it

[narrow frost]

lac uncanny is too good

rending is too broken

[austere mica]

it does if you want to use it effectively, you also need to maintain Uncanny to get actual damage out of it

[junior needle]

Is this a havoc development as well

[old prism]

Reminds me of the old times I had to argue with half of the server for this to be understood by people

Especially on zealot

[narrow frost]

lol

it took me 1 try with it to understand

[junior needle]

It doesn't, you just bodyshot with lacerate which is easier than hitting heads

[austere mica]

No this is just how the combo works

[junior needle]

Uncanny/lacerate just gives you an annoying playstyle of bobbing your camera up and down

[austere mica]

But it does work

I wouldn't recommend it to anyone

but it works

[wheat stratus]

let me guess bleed also gets blocked and then buffed by uncanny armor pen smh

[junior needle]

Works well is the bar you're thinking of

[narrow frost]

it does not

push attack is top down

[old prism]

If you like to stay at head level at all times flesh tearer uc is an option but not as consistent as lac uc

[narrow frost]

which is where heads are

top

[jaunty sphinx]

I like the knife push attack

Feels good and snappy

[narrow frost]

need to make a copy pasta for lac uncanny ham

[old prism]

You might be able to gather material from my year old arguments lol

[narrow frost]

probably

[junior needle]

Well, you can constantly weave in those push attacks if you want to maintain uncanny

But the two blessings are inherently anti-synergistic by nature

It's extra effort to use them together as opposed to say, flesh tearer

Which can meet and exceed the average bleed stacking potential

Depending on crit

[old prism]

It seems fully anti synergistic, but one game with it will change how you look at it

[junior needle]

I used to run it myself until I realized how much of a chump I was being

[old prism]

It’s all because UC is a buffer blessing that stays for 3.5 seconds after proccing

[junior needle]

I can boot up darktide to grab a picture of my old knoife

But I have a low tolerance for maintenance buffs, so your enjoyment may vary from mine

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/easter-doe-eating-deer-eating-popcorn-funny-gif-4621167703268332056

here we go again

reminds me of old zel chat

[old prism]

Dw i ain’t doing it anymore

I’d rather go sleep lol

[narrow frost]

go eep

we need to play REPO some time

[old prism]

Gotta wake up in 4 hrs damnit

[narrow frost]

just finished playing with my group

[old prism]

Peace out

[narrow frost]

bye bye

[old prism]

Sure

[vagrant ibex]

What's a dump stat on plasma ?

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688

[vagrant ibex]

Ah, charge rate it is

[hollow ibex]

It isn't the only dump

[vagrant ibex]

I took the lowest, otherwise it's thermal resistance

[wheat stratus]

dump charge rate, don't get scammed into attempting to roll that optmized plasma until you are rolling in orens

[radiant chasm]

it doesn't

[sharp epoch]

I did like -10% in charge rate and heat

[uncut pebble]

Orens? Isn't that... witcher universe currency?

[wheat stratus]

is it 😂

[uncut pebble]

We use dockets in darktide.

I'm like 95% sure orens are witcher universe currency.

[wheat stratus]

ordo

there we go

[little path]

Ordo dockets are basically disney funbucks for rejects

[stuck tree]

me want

[surreal thicket]

why is the plasma rifle so popular in high level content?

like what is it used for?

[gilded wraith]

portal aoe, it has amazing cleave when enemy concentration gets high

[inland orchid]

pierces through armor like a thin layer of paper

is a good headhunter

[surreal thicket]

so you just shoot it into a hoard or do you specifically target specials using it?

[inland orchid]

the latter

blast heads off reapers, crushers, gunners

ragers

[surreal thicket]

ok thx

[trim badger]

a very good 1 shot weapon basically

gunner? out

reaper? staggered

specials? dead

syncronizes perfectly with weapon specialist

[steep pier]

which melee is best on vet

i've been using shovel but wanna swap

[tall torrent]

doesn't have one

[tall torrent]

duelling sword / knife / combat axe / power sword

pick ur flavor

[steep pier]

Ds is boring though

But I'll try it

[tall torrent]

yea it was originally only on psyker so ofc melee weapon complexity was not part of the design goal

[steep pier]

Lol a vet named majestic-mustache with no stache

[barren nimbus]

power sword honestly feels pretty S tier

just a ton of effort to use

[iron marten]

it's a pretty good weapon to use, esp when it needs no melee specific investment to do well

combat axe 3 without trench fighter drill is useable but feels awful without it

[hollow ibex]

yeah i do like how PS doesn't specifically require talents to do well

though it's still quite janky to use

[steep pier]

its not s tier like it was week 1

no pc for 3 strikes of charge

and it was doing way more dmg

[iron marten]

Never going back to the days Slaughterer and Power Cycler release

20% power per kill and 7 powered heavy swings

Good times, I kinda miss it

[steep pier]

lol

[steep pier]

welp someone sent me something apparently people are trynna rizz up the necrons

[torn moat]

Anyone have a good autogun talent tree? interested in trying stuff for any of the 3 classes of autogun (IAG, BAG or HH)

[uncut pebble]

Have you considered beating them with hammers?

[uncut pebble]

I use this with agri inf autogun but any autogun is fine.

If you prefer top middle pathing, thats fine too.

I run mk1 shovel with this.

[hollow axle]

What blessing do you use for power sword and Recon lasgun ?

Recon Lasgun I always see Infernus one but the second one seems more controversial

[uncut pebble]

Power cycler brutal momentum and infernus dumdum/headhunter depending on how badly I need the burn stacks.

[hollow ibex]

the second one isn't controversial

it's dumdum

[uncut pebble]

90% of the time it's dumdum.

[hollow axle]

Why Dumdum ?

[hollow ibex]

because dumdum is insanely powerful and it's dumb to not take it

[uncut pebble]

And considering fatshark is deleting pus hardened, we won't need to crutch infernus in havoc anymore.

[uncut pebble]

Dumdum is free damage for playing the game and it affects dots.

[hollow axle]

But you need to use your weapon range very close ?

[uncut pebble]

So let's say you're shooting a Reaper within 12.5m, he will take a bunch more fire damage from infernus proccing on him because dumdum is active.

[hollow ibex]

dumdum's active out to 30m

[hollow axle]

That much ,

[hollow ibex]

it just scales down from 12.5 to 30m

[hollow axle]

?

Oooooh

[uncut pebble]

What fatshark defines as "close" is 12.5m but dumdum works up to 30m away.

[hollow ibex]

but of course the game doesn't explain that 🙂

[hollow axle]

Close quarters is ... very far haha

[uncut pebble]

Max damage within 12.5m with falloff up to 30.

[hollow ibex]

yeah, it's part of the reason why dumdum is dumb

[hollow axle]

I was like "Why using your range weapon around 2-3 meters around"

[hollow ibex]

yeah i mean close damage implies it's.... close, like hand-to-hand combat

but no lol

it's basically covering all standard engagement ranges

[uncut pebble]

Because "ooga booga beeg number :)" makes my brain happy.

[hollow axle]

And what dump star for power sword/recon lasgun maybe for most range weapon ?

[uncut pebble]

Psword dumps cleave targets and you want to use mk6, recons all dump collateral.

[hollow ibex]

psword dumps cleave target

[uncut pebble]

Collateral only affects damage on one weapon iirc and its not recon.

Unless fart shark changed that and I never paid attention.

Either way, dump collateral on recon, it's just stagger values.

And even with 80% you won't be staggering anything anyway.

[hollow axle]

And what stats/blessings for the plasma gun ? 👀

Do you prefer grenade krak or frag ?

[inland orchid]

unless u wanna merk every monstrosity u see i'd recommend frag if u pairing it with plasma

plasma already covers the big armor heretics

[hollow axle]

Ahd with recon ?

[inland orchid]

my recon gameplay is def lacking so ima assume kraks is a solid option

frags are a good general option tho instead of a heavy target focused nade so is up to you

[tall torrent]

80 damage
80 stopping power
80 ammo
68~69 thermal resist
71~72 charge rate

Unarmored
Flak

Gets hot + Rising heat
Or
Blaze away + Optimized cooling

[hollow axle]

Why two differents sets of blessing ? 👀

[gilded raft]

For when you unlock the 4-slot weapons from the secret level

Or possibly 2 different builds, either way

[torn moat]

Yeah. It's different playstyles/builds. But you can mix and match and still be fine on Plasma

[torn moat]

I usually see it being dumdum + headhunter/infernus.

Headhunter will give you better ammo econ and kill most elites faster. infernus is better for carapace and monstrosities.

[hollow ibex]

you always take infernus imo

HH is the optional one

[torn moat]

The pinned guide says the opposite. :/

[hollow ibex]

the guide's a bit out of date

it's saying dumdum + deathspitter/infernus

[torn moat]

Deathspitter also isn't terrible

[tall torrent]

You can choose either set

[hollow ibex]

it's pretty far behind dumdum/infernus

[tall torrent]

Nah, it is the ideal setup

Headhunter is pretty low value with reciprocity in play

[hollow ibex]

i'm not saying take HH

but idk why i'd ever take deathspitter tbh

[tall torrent]

Headhunter is not even option

[tall torrent]

Cuz it’s the only good strength option u can get on recon and it’s easy to stack & maintain

[hollow ibex]

yeah you'd give up to dumdum

[torn moat]

I was thinking of Deathspitter earlier when I said HH.

[tall torrent]

No?

Dum dum + deathspitter

Ez

[hollow ibex]

ew

wtf

[torn moat]

DumDum + deathspitter/infernus is the way.

[tall torrent]

Infernus doesn’t matter too much outside of a few cases

[hollow ibex]

you don't give up on infernus

[tall torrent]

Nah it’s easy to drop lol

[torn moat]

infernus is only really useful on monsters and crushers.

[hollow ibex]

crushers?

wat

[tall torrent]

Only gun psyker is “gotta do infernus 24/7” on recon

[torn moat]

Carapace crushers? Recon lasgun damage is bad against them. But infernus stacks help.

[hollow ibex]

burn does nothing against carapace lol

it's like a warm massage

[torn moat]

Yup. But it's better than recon lasgun without.

[hollow ibex]

you just don't shoot crushers

unless onslaught

[torn moat]

Alright. Let's go with that. Meaning one less reason to go with infernus.

[hollow ibex]

it was totally irrelevant to begin with

[torn moat]

So is infernus most of the time.

[hollow ibex]

wrong but ok

[narrow frost]

infernus doesnt do much outside of like 2 cases

[hollow ibex]

if you're misinformed enough to think infernus was used against crushers, i don't think you know shit about this, sorry

[torn moat]

TTK with deathspitter is faster 90+% of the time.

[hollow ibex]

well yeah

[tall torrent]

Infernus only matters for boss and pus harden

[hollow ibex]

because infernus is a DOT lol

[tall torrent]

And mainly just BoN for boss lol

[hollow ibex]

nah infernus is good for unyielding in general

[narrow frost]

is this because people used their ranged more on them or something else?

[tall torrent]

Because BoN is a hassle to fight in melee

It’s just annoying

[hollow ibex]

it's really not that bad

yeah it's annoying true

[narrow frost]

Okay, making sure it wasnt some weird (BoN takes increased fire damage)

[tall torrent]

So annoying that spending 150 ish ammo on it is comparatively easier

[narrow frost]

true

this is what happened when you try and melee

[hollow axle]

Pus harden ?

[tall torrent]

Havoc modifier

Going away soon

It’s basically the “fuck you for playing veteran” modifier

I hope they vault pus harden forever

Do not ever bring it back

[torn moat]

Infernus isn't a bad blessing. But not as good as DS. (for majority of situations)

[hollow ibex]

christmas seasonal modifier for all modes

[sinful swallow]

I'd accept pus hardened if ammo wasn't in a famine

[faint beacon]

Effective 12k HP Reaper

not to mention multiple of them

[tall torrent]

I'm less worried abt the ammo tbh

even plasma I don't take much ammo, I just melee more

pus harden is just uninteresting & annoying

also @faint beacon u should play dk2 with me

[torn moat]

Donkey Kong 2?

[tall torrent]

door kickers 2

[torn moat]

@faint beacon Do you have a Vet build for Agri IX?

[faint beacon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e736613-7ce2-419f-a885-55eee8b92630/certified-agri-ix-enjoyer-classic

@torn moat Change HH to Surgical

Didn't realize I did the wrong crit blessing

[torn moat]

I wondered about that. But was still looking over the tree

[faint beacon]

Edited it

Headhunter is still effective

[narrow frost]

is the food included?

from the pic

[faint beacon]

its just you get more value with Surgical

yes food included

[hollow ibex]

huh WS with agri 🤔

[narrow frost]

yippee

[hollow ibex]

ig it could work

[faint beacon]

you're using your melee more

you pull out the Agri to drop specials

[hollow ibex]

yeah ig agri has good hipfire on the first burst too

[faint beacon]

I mean you could do it to maulers but like

generic swiss army knife (rashad)

has you covered

[faint beacon]

I have you know im specia-

[narrow frost]

he is very special

[uncut pebble]

Brother what the fuck is that picture?

Who deep fries an entire shark?

[faint beacon]

Dont worry about it

[uncut pebble]

reverse image search
zero results found

[faint beacon]

Again

Dont worry about it

[violet drift]

anyone got any tips for the "on overwatch" and "make every shot count" penances

[uncut pebble]

Overwatch only cares about hp damage, so you can eat a bunch of toughness damage and be fine. Every shot count, use a shotgun. If one pellet hits, it counts as a hit for every pellet.

You can't "miss" with a shotgun for that penance.

[violet drift]

thanks

double barrel it is

[old prism]

Sucks to suck, such a basic combo to understand as well

[radiant chasm]

i can just go flesh tearer

Or riposte

Or uncanny

Or mercy killer with serrated blade

i've tried lacerate and used it when i was a noob, went and tried it after learning, not convince

[hollow ibex]

lacerate is good on mk3, because mk3's attack animations are dumb

[dusty lava]

is it just me or is plasma mid

[hollow ibex]

plasma's boring, but strong

[tame lodge]

100 or so cleave one shot machine

It's strong but just one way of playing it

[dusty lava]

makes sense

[unreal nova]

Eh, is more, lacerate good if your melee weakspot hits is really, really low.

[hollow ibex]

yeah

well that's the thing

you aim for the head with the mk3

and it'll manage to hit both the head and a limb

[unreal nova]

Is just the angle lul.

[hollow ibex]

yeah it's why lacerate works on the mk3

[faint beacon]

I dont shit on things till I try it and I can confidentially say Lac + UN is pretty fucking fun

[violet drift]

every shot counts down, thank you

[steep pier]

I got on overwatch accidentally

also even shot counts you don't want other vets cause scav and something like ammo dump plasma gun is good for high priority and easy to aim

I'm currently using a cowboy revolver and hitting snipers across the map

But that's not easy to do

Overwatch is all hits personally cause sometimes hits Slightly bypass toughness and you take some dmg

[unreal nova]

That's just you having 99.9% of toughness or actually getting hit by 2 enemies in the same tick.

[steep pier]

It's just weird how it works

[unreal nova]

Or you got hit by a rager, since they hit twice on some attacks.

[steep pier]

That to

[narrow frost]

Hits only go past toughness when you have toughness mission, unless it's an overhead

If you have 99% toughness and take damage, 1% will be hp damage

(melee only)

[steep pier]

Thats why then

I'm probably going to go for the make every shot count soon

[narrow frost]

Since ragers have fast attack combos they often feel like they go through toughness

[narrow frost]

Wideshot shotgun, plasma or zarona revolver

[steep pier]

Revolver with the non ads its the hold the hammer one

[narrow frost]

That's agripinna

Cowboy

Ads is zarona

Which has less ammo

[steep pier]

I call it the cowboy Revolver

[narrow frost]

Same

[steep pier]

and yes which is weird

ads also reloads slowe

[narrow frost]

Ads is single load, agri is full clip

Makes sense

[steep pier]

mmmhm

Should I use mark 2 or 3 helbore I'm used to 3 for damage but the special is better on 5 and 3

[narrow frost]

Unsure, don't use the helbore

[hollow ibex]

the special? the bayonet attacks are the same except on the IV

[narrow frost]

My friends usually use the fastest shooting one

[steep pier]

Well the 2 has a slower slash 3 has the stab like 5 which is fast and can somewhat stun ragers in place

And yes the highest dmg one

I can get breakpoints easy with it

It's my most used gun on vet

[tame lodge]

It's a Helbore

Up to you which one to use

[narrow frost]

It's a video game pick whatever

[tame lodge]

Helbores are just that good

[steep pier]

Yes but the dmg trade off is just difficult to adjust to

helbore and trench shovel and now cav ds for krieg build with black krieg outfit

Its been my main build since I got the outfit

[tiny haven]

Um ackshully whatever weapon you use is good

[grizzled pebble]

Thanks I'm autopistol shockmaul enjoyer

[dry cloak]

Shockmaul is good

Autopistol well it a contested topic

[radiant chasm]

I don’t think smaul can be considered good

It’s not bad

It’s just mid at everything unless you want instant open bulwark shield

[dry cloak]

Perma stunning crushers and maulers?

[grizzled pebble]

Yeah i perma cc a whole horde of heavy armours better than smite

It's op

[dry cloak]

With*

[radiant chasm]

Can do that with other weapons or outright kill them

Perma stunning one enemy isn’t exceptionally valuable

When those enemies can be oneshot or one combo’d with your other options

[dry cloak]

It can be when no one has anti armor which is rare nowadays

[radiant chasm]

If your team lacks anti armor smaul is still mid

It doesn’t excel at any armor/enemy type since lightning reflexes got stealth nerfed

[dry cloak]

I work well for me you dont need to use it

[radiant chasm]

Yea i do need to use it then fatshark nerfed the only blessing that gave it an actual niche and good unique quality

Like one crusher sure, smaul can lock it down and beat it down eventually, but if there is 5? 10? All converging on you. I’d rather just bring a shovel for an allrounder option, at least it has uncanny strike

[dry cloak]

What blessing

[radiant chasm]

Lightning reflexes stealth nerfed to have a cooldown of 3 seconds

Vs previous iteration where you could block multiple hits in that perfect block time and they would all be stunned + you can re block quickly to refresh your perfect block window

[narrow frost]

Try running taxe shredder auto, no soulblaze melee psyker

[radiant chasm]

It didn’t even make the weapon OP it just gave it a legitimate use as a counter weapon that could fight against rager packs

Also blocks are 360 so you could mass stun incoming melee while surrounded with the right timing

[narrow frost]

Probably my funniest psyker build for auric pubs

[grizzled pebble]

I hate its carapace and unyielding damage

[narrow frost]

Good dodge practice

And psyker gets enough crits and finesse bonus to make it work

Could be wrong but it clears cara faster than zealot does with taxe

[grizzled pebble]

Probably does with dd

[narrow frost]

DD SG finesse

Yesh

No need for attack speed when you damage increase so much

[grizzled pebble]

Push attack heavy spam repeat doesn't benefit too much from high attack speed anyway I guess

[void dragon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9e73a598-803d-42f0-b766-6ee0ce585019
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9e73a59d-a121-4453-bf9e-bb86e3661f1f
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9e73a647-bf4c-42a4-b60a-a372c9ee0f12
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9e73a629-d534-4cc8-8a75-5ab6e7abb9c2
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9e73a632-fbc4-4e37-889f-24722cea844b
really would appreciate some insight if this builds are good, and maybe suggestion for other different builds

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/repo/clips/jTJwKB1Cwx0UVjiRn?invite=cr-MSxlVUQsMTA3NDAxNTcz

@narrow frost

[lost frigate]

What is your fav mk of hellebore ?

[kind scarab]

I slept in today, on a work day cause I called out

Damn was that a good snooze

[dry cloak]

Mk5

[lost frigate]

is mk5 used to name mk 1 or 2?

i just return stop playing when hellebore is still mk 1 2 3

2 have stongest uncharged, 3 strongest charged but slow mk1 is inbetween

[dry cloak]

Mk5 is the blue one

Also check gameslantern

[lost frigate]

yeah mk5 is old mk2

my fav too

[calm shard]

hate that thing

infantry lasgun but slower

mk4 is where it's at though

plasma gun but infinite ammo

[dry cloak]

Fair

[umbral scaffold]

What do u guys think of the power sword

[calm shard]

good at everything

slow as balls

reasonably balanced

[umbral scaffold]

I just got a god role as a emporers gift

Well a mob dump one anyway

[stoic thorn]

Me watching as a fucking burster down me as soon as I get up

[dry cloak]

PILE ON

[native robin]

Even better if you get juggled from explosion to explosion and then fly off into the abyss

[stiff glacier]

finally managed to grind helbore to lvl 20

now got all vet weapons max level

[stoic thorn]

How it fucking FEELS to finally be able to oneshot gunners with my exe stance plasma

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-powerplex-variant-multiverse-war-gif-4186122380079405181

[dry cloak]

Have

[stoic thorn]

I've cracked it

Exe stance

15% elite dmg talent

At least 3 stacks of WS

And that one blessing that increases crit chance with heat and provides a flat 10% crit damage buff

[dry cloak]

Wouldnt mmf be better for this?

Try it in psykhanium please

[stoic thorn]

Can't be arsed to hit weakspots and stand still

[dry cloak]

Fair

[analog mural]

Simply crab

[dry cloak]

As a matter of fact mmf has potetial to move and shoot as long as you hit weakspots

It works really well with vigil mk3

[stoic thorn]

Gimme a sec

Hopping onto darktide

I must prove my theory is true

[dry cloak]

I believe you

But testing is apreciated

[grand perch]

Don't remember plasma breakpoints from the top of my head, but I seem to remember unarmored perk on plasma being enough for gunner 1hs? Maybe superiority complex

[stoic thorn]

IT DOES WOOO

Oh yeah I do have unarmoured perk

Imma test it without

Still works kinda

Needs crits to kill

Plus flak armour on the dreg gunner is centre mass where I aim

[kind scarab]

Without a headshot, right?

[stoic thorn]

Without

[kind scarab]

Good job lil bud

[stoic thorn]

I've finally done it

Now I won't be the one getting slaughtered by gunners

[dry cloak]

Gunners are rarely a problem for me

Especially as vet

[stoic thorn]

As the other classes I find that problem

[dry cloak]

On psyker not really because assail and gunker mbeing my main build

Zealot yrah can be a prpblem and oggy also

[analog mural]

Gunners should find zealots to be the problem, not the other way around

[umbral scaffold]

Any tips for make every shot count?

[calm shard]

use the shotguns

especially double barrel

[analog mural]

Get a low ammo stat zarona shotgun, pump into hordes

[calm shard]

low max ammo count and you only need to hit 1 pellet out of any shot

[analog mural]

Oh yeah db also works

[umbral scaffold]

Ok ty so dump ammo

[calm shard]

don't wste your time looking for an ammo dump

just play the game relatively normally with the shotties and avoid ammo

also don't take ammo aura obviously

[umbral scaffold]

Ok

[deep bone]

Anyone got a good Build I can use for Infantry LasGun in Havoc

My LasGun build deleted itself 🙃

[junior grail]

As in Infantry Lasgun? For Havoc, that's not common

[pseudo fiber]

You can do it though

[steep flower]

Can i interrest you in a helbore instead?

[old prism]

They are nerfing the goddamn bayonet

[deep bone]

I swear there buffing the bayonet

I thought it was getting buffed

[calm shard]

they're making melee damage related blessings/talents apply to melee special actions

(which includes the helbore bayonet)

[pseudo fiber]

But giving it a staggering 0.1 second cooldown

[deep bone]

Zamn

[grand perch]

The real crime is not touching the awful mkIV bayo

(which I still use on occasion for single enemies but come on)

[stoic thorn]

They should buff the exe stance

To give me and me specifically

The lobotomy vision

Exe stance is visually boring

[stoic thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/lapiscel-bart-lobotomy-bart-simpson-simpsons-lobotomy-core-gif-13362388248843029081

[grand perch]

Let's buff exec so every hit counts as weak spot hit while active

No more whining about MF as a result

[stoic thorn]

executioners stance
can't hit heads

[tropic halo]

VoC but you can't command teammates from your voice

[stoic thorn]

I have

Hardly ever seen a stealth veteran

They're really good at their jobs aren't they

[crimson mica]

Is the suppression perk worth it?

[tropic halo]

That's because they sneaky

[tame lodge]

On like two weapons family

Or do you mean the more suppression talent? Not really

[pseudo fiber]

Stealth vet is fun I just struggle to keep playing it

[umbral scaffold]

I'm tempted to make a stealth vet build

What weapons work the best

On stealth

[dry cloak]

All of them

[steep flower]

They are for some Emperor forsaken reason; NOBODY used Helbores EVER and they NEVER were even a mid pick for any build; just recently they came out as an exec stance choice...

[crimson mica]

So the bayonet is just for looks now? Great...

[steep flower]

not really

the speed is gonna be reduced; numbers don't seem high; we'll see in 8 days

[steep flower]

it still is on Mk IV LMAO

[unreal nova]

Think you need trench fighter to compensate.

[steep flower]

Yeah and thats stupid; not every build goes to pay 4 point tax for 10% att speed

[unreal nova]

Since it's going to benefit from all melee atk speed buffs and such.

[steep flower]

Agile engagement benefits helbore alot and ppl don't take it due to point tax; Trench fighter path has been ingrained soo hard after WS Plasma build came out; alot of ppl include it for comfort

[unreal nova]

I honestly think we need a better shaped tree even if nothing is changed.

[tame lodge]

They didn't change damage or stagger on it

💀

Don't go making storms on water glasses

[pseudo fiber]

• Minimum windup time from Start Special attack to Special Light Stab from 0 to 0.1.
• Chain time from Special Light Stab to Start Special attack from 0.575 to 0.635.

This change is so monumentally small

[stoic thorn]

God I fucking hate psykers

3 psykers will appear and all goes to shit because noone brought team toughness

[dry cloak]

Stop or begone to zealot chat

[stoic thorn]

I swear to God if the next team I join is all psykers I am going to crash out

Thank god

There's a zealot with chorus

I hate 3 fucking psykers

Selfish bqstards

1 is enough

[umbral scaffold]

3 psykers w bubble and smite

[tame lodge]

What is bro on about 🗣️

[stoic thorn]

That would be fine

[umbral scaffold]

Nothing would ve moving that game

And no one's getting shot

[unreal nova]

Guy wants support to play carry DPS, does not get support so angry.

[old prism]

It seems small but that’s basically a %20 dps nerf

If the damage numbers being buffed don’t make up for the speed loss, it’s a nerf

[tame lodge]

Should've just brought self peel

GG no dps

[unreal nova]

Or just bring shout himself, right?

[umbral scaffold]

Is vet a support class?

[tame lodge]

Depends on the chart

[umbral scaffold]

Makes sense why I like it so much

[unreal nova]

Can be, is support in Havoc 40.

[silver trellis]

You need GT?

[old prism]

Can be a damn good support as well. Plasma gun for special and elite denial
Krak grenades for crusher/bulwark - boss removal
Damage amps in the form of skullcrusher + focus target
Yellow toughness and space gain from VoC

He’s a damn good support. Problem is support playstyle can get boring quick

Not to forget ammo aura

[trim badger]

Krak is kinda mid at havoc 40

[unreal nova]

I know. Thus the, can be support in aurics, is basically played usually as a more supportive build in late Havoc.

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah I'm usually helping give my teammates time and applying dots w my shredders got shout to get the gold toughness bs and I'm pretty much a specialist hunter , I'm really interested to try out stealth tho

[tame lodge]

Radical Support

• Anyone can be a support
• Supports by killing enemies and preventing harm

[umbral scaffold]

I just need to get better at trapper and sniper hunting, especially the trappers

[dry cloak]

Kraks are yum

Taste hot

[balmy flume]

Trapper is a matter of training spawn noice direction recognition.
Sniper is training accurate ADS reflexes (I.e. already acquiring a sniper on ADS to immediately squeeze trigger)

[unreal nova]

They are not for eating.

[dry cloak]

Crunchy

[old prism]

Krak seems underwhelming first but if thrown after applying skullcrusher + focus target and bonus power from vet tree + switching to a weapon with unyielding damage before nade blows up = you basically chunk half of a bosses hp bar with one krak

And it seems hard to do what im talking about here but with practice it’s so damn easy

VoC, hit boss with shovel twice, mark boss, rip a krak, switch to +unyielding weapon

[normal bay]

So that's why I deleted that BoN one time lol

[trim badger]

Having to sacrifice knife/duelling sword to correctly apply skullcrusher... Not sure if it's worth to me

[old prism]

As I said, this is a support type playstyle vet, if you wanna go ds4 or knife frag grenades might be just way better

As you won’t need kraks

[old prism]

Yeah, power increases apply to your grenade explosions, that’s why you should at least ult to get buffs before nade explosions

Deleting every boss in 4 seconds with 2 krak grenades is insanely powerful considering the pressure monstrosities apply in havoc 40

And makes double boss + mixed horde way easier

[balmy flume]

No disrespect, but you can delete 50% of BoN on weakpoint hit with Boltgun, Execution stance and rapid fire…

[old prism]

You definitely can, but this applies to every boss

Not just burgle

[balmy flume]

Very good point

[umbral scaffold]

I'm still yet to learn how to proc things like that

[kind scarab]

You can support your friends by killing all the dangerous enemies, or yelling at them to GET THE FUCK UP

[old prism]

Ammo nerf in havoc unfortunately hits the shooty mc shooty man the hardest, so it would be great to see some vet changes

[umbral scaffold]

It can be hard to actually know what your tree does ngl I dint really know I just take peoples builds that are ez and work well and tweak this or that that I don't use cause there's no point having ability that don't even proc

[kind scarab]

Makes leftmost aura practically a requirement

[old prism]

Especially if you want to run any autogun or something with high rof

[kind scarab]

Yeah, I didn't like those to begin with anyway, so thankfully I'm safe.

Revolver for me all day everyday at higher difficulties

[tame lodge]

Nuh uh
You'll be funnelled into Lasguns and you'll like it

[kind scarab]

(I would still like more viable vet stuff for solo/duo H40)

[tame lodge]

[old prism]

Honeey, it’s time for your havoc lasgun torture

Yes, honey

[tame lodge]

[stoic thorn]

How I deadass watch as the Zealot aggroes the DH and the game goes to shit

[umbral scaffold]

I hate when I do that by mistake

Thank God he goes away after killing me lol

[stoic thorn]

For some reason my plasma gun doesn't instakill flamers

[tame lodge]

gets a Lasgun
Doesn't take suppression immunity
Enemies shoot more often
Ignore suppression and keep shooting

[steep flower]

For you; i like support playstyle

[stoic thorn]

Oh I've set it to unyield

[tame lodge]

[umbral scaffold]

Me in the chat apologizing to team mates for potentially cooking the game

[stoic thorn]

how it FEELS to finally be able to do your job in a team

[steep flower]

Helbore

[stoic thorn]

Auric damnation

I was vaporising maulers

[old prism]

Ofc it’s subjective, but I’ve seen more players that don’t like how it plays than I do

[steep flower]

You failed the Emperor tho…

[latent parcel]

EMPEROR FAILURES!

[stoic thorn]

Not my fucking fault the Zealot aggroed the DH and the other one got roasted

[latent parcel]

@steep flower you and chonkster going again?!

@vernal trench wya

[stoic thorn]

I mean it IS my fault the other one got roasted

I should've killed the flamers

[steep flower]

If we get the map

[stoic thorn]

Rooms away tho

[latent parcel]

ik someone that has one for ya

[steep flower]

So far i don’t have one, must reroll

[steep flower]

So you admit you fked up; good; thats the first step of doing better later

[old prism]

No blight spreads, sad ogryn noises

[steep flower]

Many ppl can’t admit their own failures

[latent parcel]

blight makes ogryn sadder

😦

blight ruins rashuns

confirmed

[steep flower]

Pickaxe ogryn, not shield one

[lament venture]

Any Viable Auric Damnation, Combat shotgun that working around using gun build?

[old prism]

I like blight as a concept, very good zoning tool for enemy, also hardest modifier in current havoc hands down

But I wish there was some type of delay between infections within enemies, why do they all turn green the second they step into green piss

[stoic thorn]

I just got dogged and the team is getting fucking shat on I think

I gope

[latent parcel]

yeah i hate that and how long it lasts on the ground

[old prism]

Also very hard to see pus hardened + blight

Pus hardened needs a diff colour

[dry cloak]

If you are skilled enough every wepon is auric viable

[latent parcel]

we just dont do it anymore

[stoic thorn]

Please lose

I'm a hater like that

YES

They died

[unreal nova]

You run Exe stance though lul.

[latent parcel]

Karien!

[dry cloak]

Exe stance good

[unreal nova]

Wat.

[latent parcel]

I need h40 carry rn

[lament venture]

True, but viable doesnt mean it do good than some easier counterpath. That's why im asking here.

[latent parcel]

@vernal trench wont help me

[unreal nova]

I need food rn and @grizzled pebble to carry me.

[latent parcel]

@grizzled pebble carries?

[unreal nova]

Unless @old prism is willing to?

[stoic thorn]

God I love chainsword coming back from psword

[supple stag]

I like laspistol for Havocs, feels nice

[unreal nova]

Papa is still out so ng.

[supple stag]

Unlike infantry las

[dry cloak]

For combat shotty you want agrippina one. With fullbore and no respite. For the build it self your bog standard ws build with shout or infiltrate. Tale kraks if you plan on using melee thats bad againts carapace

[steep flower]

Ye and i thrive

[steep flower]

Riding to work

So 6h at least i won’t be on

[latent parcel]

@unreal nova needs her carry now tho

[unreal nova]

I am eating reeeeeeeeeeee

[steep flower]

A woman can wait

[unreal nova]

If anything, I'll be free in 2 hours.

[steep flower]

Man too

[latent parcel]

[steep flower]

[unreal nova]

Nu. You play at my time or bleah.

[steep flower]

Come to my workplace then; we’ll wash the floors together

Gonna be faster

[unreal nova]

Nu. Also wat.

[old prism]

I am still working :(.

[steep flower]

But yeah; 6h cause i need to resupply myself after work

TFW you waste an hour to get to work and an hour to get out of it

[unreal nova]

Maybe we'll have time to jank up a party if @grizzled pebble rather plays thirst descendant.

[old prism]

Not gonna be home for a while

[unreal nova]

I mean, if it's 6 hours, I'll still be up on the eepier end.

[old prism]

Ah no, 2 hours maybe

[unreal nova]

2 hours is basically when I'm free free. Lul. Puppo in bed, all things done

[limber pawn]

any tip for marksman focus penance?

its very limiting for the game's pace

[dry cloak]

Melee kills also count

And take a infantry autogun or recon lasgun for this ans shoot everything

[unreal nova]

Find someone to do mercantile with you. Stay in the kitchen and crouch infront of the door snd slash away.

[limber pawn]

oh okay thank you

[dry cloak]

Also true

[unreal nova]

Other person handles specials that spawn outside.

Best done on havoc 1 or so.

[lament venture]

Lovely, Thanks! I'll try them.

[unreal nova]

Do NOT put the mine on the wall btw.

[frank basin]

still shit?

or nah?

[unreal nova]

Nobody knows till 25th.

[dry cloak]

May actually be goos

[tame lodge]

Shredder Psyker might be back

[frank basin]

they put Quell Canceling nerf

they add minimum to start quell for 0.3s required

[dry cloak]

Good

[frank basin]

that time psyker playing m1 spam with marco quell canceling

they get nerf

[steep flower]

Thats not gonna matter much; your aura is constant

[vernal trench]

@sudden cedar what map did u grt

[unreal nova]

Assuming I don't dodge off a cliff micronapping.

[tame lodge]

SAP has like 1.5 cleave
BA turns it into 2.1
Psyker with 100% extra cleave
DD stacked

[vernal trench]

@unreal nova what 40 map did u get

[latent parcel]

dont listen to chonky

hes liein

[vernal trench]

Bruh

Stompt bullying me

Help

Mods

imma get you banned like that one certain individual i wont mention for legal reasons!

[unreal nova]

I haven't gotten on. Too depressed honestly.

[steep flower]

Looks soo much better ye; the movement bonus is what that weapon needed

[unreal nova]

Took me forever to mood enough to go out to eat.

[frank basin]

so not damage need?

[vernal trench]

What map did u get papa

[vernal trench]

Sleep

Slepe good

[limber pawn]

any tip for krag grenade penance? it kills only one bulwark

[unreal nova]

I slept for over 12 hours already.

[vernal trench]

Thats why kraks SUCK

[tame lodge]

Throw at any scab enemy

[vernal trench]

more

[tame lodge]

[steep flower]

That never happened when we played together; i can always keep you alive with my chainaxe revs

[unreal nova]

Throw into scab packs or mobian packs.

[tame lodge]

No idea which penance you're going for

[unreal nova]

You just want me to waste book.

[vernal trench]

Papa u better tell me what map u got

Before i go over to poland and touch u

[unreal nova]

Stop touching ppl.

[steep flower]

I would buy you ice cream; ice cream fixes a bad mood

[vernal trench]

No

[steep flower]

Refinery

[vernal trench]

Fuck

We gotta reroll it

[unreal nova]

Icecream is now like $10-$14 a tub.

[hasty grove]

This was a rlly fun Sanctus Redactus run, the boss actuslly fought back and didn’t get crumped in 10 seconds

[vernal trench]

Imma check mine later

[unreal nova]

That's 2-3 meals.

[steep flower]

Dmg bonus is also good but the movement spd bonus is great

[vernal trench]

Dont shoot the shield

[frank basin]

it doesn't said any dmg increasing tweak

just movement speed

[vernal trench]

Captain shield takes -50% less damage with ranged

[frank basin]

nvm

i forgot

[tame lodge]

Bruh

[frank basin]

there is dmg bnous

[steep flower]

Or a cone, those are good

[tame lodge]

Extra bruh

[unreal nova]

I don't like the biscuit.

[stoic thorn]

team cant do their jobs 💔

[steep flower]

No i mean the cone you put ice cream balls in

[grizzled pebble]

I am at the shop

[tame lodge]

It might become Vraks lite

[stoic thorn]

Out here locking tf in and my teammates cant

[steep flower]

I need you in my team so i can see your performance my lil bender loving individual

[unreal nova]

I think he meant in general.

[stoic thorn]

I will pulverise shit

[grizzled pebble]

Oh I don't carry i am noob

Karien carry xd

[unreal nova]

EXCUSE ME? WDYM I CARRY???

[grizzled pebble]

[hasty grove]

I generally only shoot the shield because I don’t get close to the boss, I like to focus on culling the trash mobs and I take chip damage away from the shield where I can

[steep flower]

And they will bite your shinny metal a$$ goodbye

[unreal nova]

Stop copying Stompt reeeeeeeeeeee.

[steep flower]

Correction; your aura carries; you are a mascot that emits the carrying aura

[grizzled pebble]

[steep flower]

@unreal nova is the source of the goodness yeis

[stoic thorn]

I two shot maulers

No clue how many shots into a crusher

[unreal nova]

That's a little more accurate, I guess. Don't even need to do anything for it.

[steep flower]

Wait 5h and i will be on

[steep flower]

You do enough; you need to be near; present

[wild vortex]

Papa, Chonky, will you guys be doing havocs later?

[steep flower]

Potentially

Soo many ppl to play with

[wild vortex]

my wifi is much better here, not disconnecting anymore or at max once in a game

[steep flower]

So little time

[wild vortex]

and I fixed my stuttering issue

[frank basin]

lmao, if oggie a medicae station

[unreal nova]

Is fine if you want me to just take others offers or well, more like they are willing to carry a panicky skitterish book zealot.

[steep flower]

Ofc not! We just missed times to play together for some time is all

[unreal nova]

We can just play aurics, you know.

[vernal trench]

Bad habit

[unreal nova]

Though remind me to switch away from the stealth loner nonsense.

Trying to do penances, it sucks.

[hasty grove]

“I had alot of fun with this fight and was glad the boss actually fought back”

“You’re garbage, actually”

[steep flower]

Recently just was not just me; would not abandon others in exchange for others

[steep flower]

Basically; you, ivy & me are 3 already

[unreal nova]

I just play with whoever is free. You know I eat lag so everyone else has a better time. Also less requirement of me needing to clutch or carry.

[vernal trench]

Where the smelter complexes at

We need as many as we can get!

3 tries 6 tries 9 tries 12 tries

[steep flower]

Lag cereal with connection milk

[wild vortex]

since you guys carried me to 39 last week, I'll check what's my assignment when I log on later

[steep flower]

[wild vortex]

because it should be 40 now

[vernal trench]

It wont matter cuz ifs not a 40

ull only get a 39

[unreal nova]

.-.

[steep flower]

We can always play 39 to get a 40

[vernal trench]

we already fot ur map to rerolland probablg mins

Got

[steep flower]

It is still 1 game in any capacity

[void dragon]

Ok guys, have to ask: is there an unspoken rule of not talking about Veteran builds? I have tried a few times already and it seems that those kinds of questions are ignored, is it wrong to do that and I'm coming as rude for asking?

[kind scarab]

I should have a map at 39 when reset hits

If I get it up to 40 and its the map yall want, you can have it

[hasty grove]

Felt, I asked for advice on a VoC build and got written off immediately

[wild vortex]

idk bad timing I guess

[umbral scaffold]

Iv had people help me w my questions , what do u want to know if I know I could possibly help

[void dragon]

Honestly 3 times in different hours feels like I'm getting ignored intentionally

[unreal nova]

Bad timing. Also, not everyone has builds to share.

[void dragon]

Mostly had some builds that wanted some pointers if they were in the right direction

[void dragon]

Honestly with how it was going I was genuinely feeling I was doing something wrong and people were mad ignoring me for doing something bad

Kinda scary feeling

[umbral scaffold]

No not at all

[unreal nova]

Naw, it's only when you ask, got corrected and ask without change then ppl get annoyed.

[steep flower]

No?

[steep flower]

I can talk about it when i return home after work

[normal bay]

Posting 5 builds at once was probably the issue lol. That's a lot of info to go over

[void dragon]

Ok, asking other questions that are not "is this build I have for the class good?" do get answers! Me joy 😅

[void dragon]

VERY appreciated mate

[steep flower]

5h

In vc

Will note ya

[void dragon]

That was a desperate move all considered, and probably a bad one too

[sudden cedar]

@vernal trench @steep flower Sycorax, but it is only a 37

[umbral scaffold]

I'm just gonna look at mine and I'll give you a screenshot

@void dragon

It's nice and easy to play

[grizzled pebble]

I asked for advices here and were told im trash (it's true tho)

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-garbage-dumpster-gif-22255810

[void dragon]

BS! so far no one has said I'm trash! And they would absolutely be accurate! Why would they say you are?

[steep flower]

Non constructive criticism; bozos should not speak; only shovel latrines

[umbral scaffold]

Recon las gun and ds , 2 toughness curious 1 Stam
Ability regen x3
Stamina regenx2
Sprint efiency x1
Sniper resistance x2
Toughnessx1

[unreal nova]

Excuse me, if you are trash, then what am I?

[grizzled pebble]

[umbral scaffold]

Ds : flak dmg
Unyielding dmg
Uncanny strike riposte

[grizzled pebble]

Me veri noob

[void dragon]

You are Karien, of course

[latent parcel]

Karien the karry!

[unreal nova]

LIES.

[unreal nova]

Also LIES.

[void dragon]

Can carry and call itself trash, ergo in beneath trash