veteran-class

[faint beacon]

there's a few things smokes dont save you from but you can quickly learn to adapt around it

[kind scarab]

The smoke doesn't put out fire, though you'd think the lack of sufficient oxygen would do that

[faint beacon]

I mean arguably smokes could use a small buff but

ehh

im fine with how it is now

[ornate ivy]

its also got some screen that is a bit wonky

the actual concealment zone is a bit hard for me to get used to

[faint beacon]

Wild how they either do this or immediately drop what they're doing and reposition opening them up for hits

[ornate ivy]

skill issue i guess

[kind scarab]

I really ought to remake my melee smoke support build

[tall torrent]

Finished both power swords' sections

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[kind scarab]

Good job WIP

[faint beacon]

What did you decide on the Activation of Special icon

[hollow ibex]

At least make them impact nades reeee

[tall torrent]

no icon

[faint beacon]

Impact Smokes?

[ornate ivy]

❤️

[hollow ibex]

Yes

[faint beacon]

I mean thats another way to buff them

[gaunt meteor]

Hello any good assault rifle build to recommand me execpt the Vraks Mk V ? (Dm me pls)

[faint beacon]

I wouldn't mind that either

[hollow ibex]

Instead of having a fuse

[kind scarab]

Alternatively, give smokes a second where when they explode any enemies nearby cough for a second, so you can use them to revive teammates better by tossing them at a friends feet

Or stun an enemy just long enough to peek and beat their ass

[tall torrent]

nah

can use at least 3 buffs

[faint beacon]

me and Path (Veteran Guide blah blah, you get the idea), did think it could use some sort of buff when enemies are within the cloud outside of just

concealing you

Generally any enemy inside the smoke should be debuffed

[kind scarab]

Inaccurancy is great and all, but the enemis should totally choke on the smoke if they're in it.

Call it holy smokes and it's bad for their lungs

[faint beacon]

Wasn't thinking of that cause I feel like thats too much of a buff

you should still get pushed out of the cloud if you dont manage the horde

[tame lodge]

as scabs usually wear gas mask

[faint beacon]

I was more thinking a debuff that increases your Stagger or Damage on enemies inside the smoke

so you at least get rewarded for staying inside of it

[kind scarab]

Oh yeah no, most definitely. I don't want the smoke to be a perma safety shield like a better psyker bubble. The idea is that if it blows up next to enemies, they choke.

[faint beacon]

Smokes are

[kind scarab]

But if an enemy is running in, they don't cause it's assumed they just hold their breath

[faint beacon]

literally a better Psyker dome btw

outside of Toughness regen

with a certain talent combo

[kind scarab]

The issue with Dome is lack of toughness regen, and enemis can still shoot through it if it was the last spot someone saw you in

[faint beacon]

This with stock pile

[kind scarab]

Or a stupid teammate dodges backwards into smoke, so everyone gets riddled with bullets

[faint beacon]

your smokes last like- 7.5ish seconds longer?

and doesn't immediately drop if shot at lmao

so you get a smoke every minute

[kind scarab]

Love me tinkerer. Your smokes last so long you effectively get them back before you run out.

[faint beacon]

and 1 lasts 30 seconds

[kind scarab]

And at higher difficulties, with the 5% chance for one back procs often enough that you're just swimming in them.

[faint beacon]

I tend to pass on demo team

with smoke builds

I really only need the 1 every minute

[grand perch]

its still a bit sad smokes only last 15 seconds stock

[kind scarab]

I don't since I like to be proactive and aggressive with my smoke usage

[grand perch]

would be cool if they didnt need any extra point investment to be good. their usage is rare enough anyway

[faint beacon]

I use them as a 'its getting incredibly hot with bullets'

[kind scarab]

Like, I often use it to push up and clear out lines of sight gunner nests can have

[faint beacon]

and anything regarding massive shooter or gunner packs the smokes come out

[kind scarab]

Smokes = It's vermintide time

For me at least

[faint beacon]

braindead or braindead for today

[kind scarab]

Hmmmmmmm

I am quite the fan of the knife

[lavish lotus]

We love kraks

[kind scarab]

Nothing like going around cosplaying as the Scream villian

And all the hordes are your victims.

Man, now I miss playing as ghostface in DBD.

[faint beacon]

Gotta be a favorite veteran combo

[kind scarab]

Mercykiller

[faint beacon]

If you dont run Serrated You usually do like

what

Lacerate or Flesh Tearer

cause Rending Bleed is beyond fucked

[ornate ivy]

imagine giving mercy to the Emperor's enemies

[kind scarab]

This was mine before lock'd n loaded

[dusty sluice]

i alibve again

goob

[kind scarab]

Worked wonderfully enough with my crit build, pretty much everything died

Welcome back to life

[faint beacon]

these two carry you with Flesh Tearer

[kind scarab]

Damn straight they do

[faint beacon]

besides Desperado is fantastic

[dusty sluice]

this is going to be soooo fun to redo

[kind scarab]

I only ever use Recip on my melee builds, if only cause I really can't bring myself to upkeep my dodges with ranged weapons.

But when I'm going full melee? I'm always dodging anyways.

[faint beacon]

I just use recip on a lot of my builds cause me like crit chance by playing the fucking game

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jPuR6R039AairVSbu?invite=cr-MSxkcGosMTA3NDAxNTcz

[tall torrent]

I think I might actually switch to power sword over rashad come the next update

[dusty sluice]

what kinda blessings/perks does psword take now?, last time i played it was sunder/bm + pc

[tall torrent]

been using the power sword again

[faint beacon]

Cause of the Special no longer just magically turning off from

damn near everything

Honestly I might pick it up again cause that was my biggest gripe with it other than mobility

[kind scarab]

Wait

[tall torrent]

power sword VI has 3 combos

[kind scarab]

They're making it so PS doesn't switch off now?

[tall torrent]

my biggest gripe is actually not the turning off from getting hit part

[surreal gust]

If you take hits yeah

[faint beacon]

@kind scarab N&V they're changing all Special Activation interactions to no longer be turned off from vaulting or getting hit

[surreal gust]

Less babysitting for weapons with activations

[tall torrent]

my biggest gripe is that
it's not near rashad's horde clear without BM, and it's not as safe as rashad without sunder

[kind scarab]

Oh thank fuck

[faint beacon]

Evis Rev, Chain weapon revs, Power Sword activation

etc

when its on its on till you turn it off or use it

[kind scarab]

Aight, I might actually use chainsword more often now

and PS

[surreal gust]

I can’t stop using the chainaxe

[tall torrent]

chainsword will still be mid on veteran unfortunately

[surreal gust]

It’s so much more fun than the sword imo

[kind scarab]

Oh most definitely

But for the CS that was meant about my zealot

On Vet I'll find it hard to stop using knife/DS/Shovel

[tall torrent]

just PS/axe 24/7

[hollow ibex]

I might go back to BM outside of havoc.

[kind scarab]

Hell nah, I like running my Dclaw too

[surreal gust]

I’d like DS if it wasn’t so boring with how strong it us

[kind scarab]

Gotta give my parry baby some love

[tall torrent]

yea BM is really nice

[dusty sluice]

how is the agri iag now?, i remeber it used to be fun and decent

[kind scarab]

Aight, I'mma put on my jacket and get back to leveling up my masteries

[dusty sluice]

wait nvm

[faint beacon]

its alright

[kind scarab]

Anyone wanna gang up on some heretics?

[surreal gust]

The agri is kinda whatever

[faint beacon]

I mean im literally sitting in the mourningstar right now

[surreal gust]

I much prefer the other two

[faint beacon]

im contemplating if I should make a build or just throw myself into Aurics

[kind scarab]

Do both

That's what imma do

[dusty sluice]

oh so they didn't change the agris name

but did for the ciag

real

[tall torrent]

play ogryn

[faint beacon]

true...

[kind scarab]

(Play Ogryn on the 25th)

[faint beacon]

you mean play eggman

thank you very much

[kind scarab]

Wait you actually named him eggman

[faint beacon]

Yes

[surreal gust]

Ye

[faint beacon]

I love him

[kind scarab]

I wanna see what he looks like in his entirety.

[kind scarab]

Checks out

[tall torrent]

I named my Ogryn as "Goob"

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[kind scarab]

I wasn't creative at all with my naming.

They're all just Doc.

[faint beacon]

You dont understand you have to lobotomize yourself

to name your ogryn

unless you're cosplaying

[kind scarab]

Honestly huge missed potential for me to have named the Ogryn Do instead

or Oc

[faint beacon]

c

[ornate ivy]

Named my ogryn Turok because he hunts dinosaurs >:3

[kind scarab]

Yea just C

[faint beacon]

just name him the letter C

[dusty sluice]

or is smth like this still fine? this from before crafting update

[faint beacon]

I mean you can just

one moment

[tall torrent]

Carapace + elite for sunder imo

[faint beacon]

NO FUCKING WAY

KEEP THAT

LMAO

[tall torrent]

Wait

[dusty sluice]

ikr

[tall torrent]

lol

[faint beacon]

I have like 2

rare

61-80 melees

Shovel and Chainsword

[tall torrent]

Nvm stat distribution not optimal

[faint beacon]

those are only accesible pre-UNL

[dusty sluice]

wait wha

[faint beacon]

Shit you're right

mobility

STILL THATS FUNNY

[tall torrent]

Scrap it and make a new one with 60 cleave target

[kind scarab]

Wait, what was I missing there.

[faint beacon]

God thats so depressing

[faint beacon]

You cant have a dump stat higher than 60

mob is 61

[kind scarab]

Pretty sure the 61% bugged stats were just rounding errors

[dusty sluice]

i think the funniest part is i managed to roll both the blessings without needing to change them lol

[faint beacon]

only possible cause of a weapon from before Unlocked and Loaded

@kind scarab You can change your characters here btw

[dusty sluice]

yeah, all my stuff from then

[kind scarab]

Wait, I can change their name now?

[faint beacon]

Name and everything

yes

and personality

[kind scarab]

Okay, hold up brb

[faint beacon]

planet

etc

[ornate ivy]

There might be a mandela effect because i feel like i've got a bunch with 61 during L&L

[dusty sluice]

its a shame i lost my 550 :(

[kind scarab]

Gonna rename my Ogryn

[dusty sluice]

is the vi still the ideal ps?

[kind scarab]

I'm worried if I name him C people won't understand the joke when I join randoms

[tall torrent]

Yes

[tall torrent]

Name him tuberculosis

So the killfeed would be

“Tuberculosis killed Scab Gunner”

[faint beacon]

LMAO

[kind scarab]

We both know he'd call himself Tub if anyone asked

[faint beacon]

Tetanus

HIV

[dusty sluice]

wait so is this bugged?

[kind scarab]

Then he'd call himself Tit, or HI

[faint beacon]

no that seems normal

[kind scarab]

That is normal

[dusty sluice]

oh wait i get it now

[faint beacon]

Basically if everything is 80% then the Dump stat at max will be 60%

[kind scarab]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[faint beacon]

Name him Grub

[kind scarab]

He going back to just being called Doc like the rest of them

😔

For now at least, till I come up with a better name

[faint beacon]

what he looks like

[kind scarab]

I'm actually really happy with how all my characters turned out visually

Honestly

Surprised they don't look absurd

Which I usually would have done.

[dusty sluice]

i put helmets on all mine, i think this is my favourite

[kind scarab]

That's just a kriegsman

[dusty sluice]

he looks so silly

[kind scarab]

you ain't fooling me

[kind scarab]

He's so serious cause someone took him lunch :c

[faint beacon]

Comedy in Maelstrom

[dusty sluice]

for a power sword and zarona build, what skills should i take, (or is there a generic vet base)

[kind scarab]

Aight, I got my jacket on and I ain't as cold anymore

[inner temple]

Same

[faint beacon]

if my veteran isn't in a steel legion outfit

[kind scarab]

someone pick a class for me, and drag me in with you so I can start remembering what I'm doing again

[faint beacon]

then its not my vet

[tame lodge]

Diva is up

[faint beacon]

LOCK THE FUCK IN

[faint beacon]

Just do vet and join me

[dusty sluice]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b19ca6a-2b47-4402-bde5-7c8cd553a81e/vet-rashad oh wow this is from a year ago lol, not sure if rashad bps are still as tight

[inner temple]

Diva? D.va? That weird korean lady from overwatch?

[kind scarab]

Sure

[inner temple]

Im joking

[tame lodge]

It's Nerf this or nothing

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-overwatch-league-dva-hana-song-gladiators-dva-gif-13487525

[faint beacon]

You'll have to change that up a bit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/580240175632744450/1311833000874348594/caption-6.gif

[kind scarab]

Gimme yer shark code

[dusty sluice]

yeah, will probasbly just redo everything

[kind scarab]

Galeocode even

[inner temple]

Cute little nurgle puppy

[faint beacon]

Check my Bio

[kind scarab]

Danke

Should have checked there first

Oh yeah, you EU or NA?

[faint beacon]

NA

NA-E

[kind scarab]

Oh boy this gonna be interesting

I'm EU

[faint beacon]

a moderate ping difference

[kind scarab]

At least it's E not W

[inner temple]

Hey a fellow eastern

[grand perch]

i just did that one where i managed to bug all my weapons so i couldnt attack, block or do anything at all anymore

[faint beacon]

You want to get thrown into hell

[kind scarab]

I'm always in hell

[faint beacon]

or damnation as a warm up

[kind scarab]

Lets warm up first

Want to pop into a strike team?

[faint beacon]

Uh probably not atm

but I'll give you a heads up if I am

[kind scarab]

Sounds good

[grand perch]

"strike team is full"

[inner temple]

My friend always pulls me into the hardest bs I think the only time hes let me build up in difficulty is one game and thats payday 2. He didn't immediately drag me to the hardest difficulty. He's actually letting me build up but it makes sense death sentence is just very difficult anyway.

Literally 4 mini gun bulldozers on avg

Tbf tho I actually enjoy going hardest stuff eventually. Usually after I get use to it tho

[tall torrent]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1349064939200843816/IMG_3910.png?ex=67d1be21&is=67d06ca1&hm=8ad7de39e33ac29dec55111332fa929e59c8d4fc56360cb7904e35b3028f9aa4&

[dusty sluice]

wait i remember you from your disc name, your the goober who helped me with builds ages ago

[kind scarab]

I may have just noticed I went into the mission without any talents picked on my tree

[tame lodge]

Peak

Default vet

[inner temple]

Is it weird I prefer my shout is to mostly pick people up

[grand perch]

hang on he got determined on that its not the default build

[dusty sluice]

is this the vet base or a build for zarona/ps? :3

[tame lodge]

The answer is yes
At the same time, if it works

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/dishonor-mushu-mulan-gif-8043622

[inner temple]

Usually does never had it not so far

Unless im like not directly nearby. They gotta be like right on me can't be too far like on the edge of shout.

[dusty sluice]

so are shredders not as good anymore?

[hollow ibex]

No they're still very very good

[dusty sluice]

:0

alr, this is my olddd build, https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af94bc5-0d2f-4143-9d80-314e30932a4a/vet-5-revi how much has changed in terms of everything? :3

[hollow ibex]

Honestly I'd just drop Deadshot

You prob won't need surv either

But otherwise build looks good

[dusty sluice]

tbf i was only using it bc zarona but ye

[orchid hemlock]

Why do u have deadshot and regen?

Also you can drop the PS for a Rashad

[dusty sluice]

old build :3

[dusty sluice]

ps is fun thou

[orchid hemlock]

I don't remember when deadshot and regen was changed

[dusty sluice]

how did they get changed?

[orchid hemlock]

U said that it's old correct?

What does the age of the build have anything to do with it if those node never changed?

[inner temple]

Even I Don't pick up Deadshot.. I just can't tempt fate that much I like my stamina

[orchid hemlock]

Also you don't have AE, which is cracked on WS builds

But ig it's understandable if you really want survivalist

But revolver with WS is not a weapon that struggles with ammo effeciency, even before the nerf to survivalist

[dusty sluice]

this was a while before the survivalist changes, i completley forgot it was even changed

[kind scarab]

No one tell Galeo what I said earlier

[orchid hemlock]

I understand, but again AE is one of the best nodes in the tree with WS

[faint beacon]

Explains the 0 damage LMAO

[kind scarab]

LISTEN

I forgot I was changing the tree

[orchid hemlock]

Doc trash confirmed

[kind scarab]

Considering I went in with 3 points spent

I did better than I expected

Honestly, the randoms should have done more

[dusty sluice]

i forgot the abbreviations

[orchid hemlock]

Agile Engagement

It's hard to grab tho if you are taking survivalist

[kind scarab]

Alright, we good now. I just switched to my usual setup.

[dusty sluice]

did shredders ever get a nerf?

[orchid hemlock]

No?

[kind scarab]

Shredder getting buff next update

[narrow frost]

nade

[kind scarab]

Oh that

Not the pistol

[inner temple]

Im fine with that. Kinda sad I won't be one of the few enjoyers tho after

[dusty sluice]

mb, havn't played in like a year and never checked the patch notes

[orchid hemlock]

But I'm confused why you asking about shredders 🤔

[kind scarab]

They like the boom boom?

[orchid hemlock]

💣

[inland orchid]

My guess is due to how consistent it was in the past they assumed it’d be nerfed in the future

[orchid hemlock]

In the past, what was OP was survivalist

[faint beacon]

ffs

Darktide crashed

[dusty sluice]

i was just wondering if they were changed bc they used to be very good

[orchid hemlock]

😔

[orchid hemlock]

They still are

[surreal gust]

They’re still pretty good

None of vets grenades are awful

[kind scarab]

The server we're on is going to massive shit

Aaaand I got error coded

[tall torrent]

Axe / power sword + zarona revolver

[surreal gust]

A fellow weapons specialist enjoyer

[dusty sluice]

okii, tysm

[dusty sluice]

so is it nolonger worth taking survivalist? orrr

[surreal gust]

It’s still good

[dusty sluice]

oh ye, i had a little question, howcome krak nades?

[inland orchid]

More ammo is good it’s just not like how it used to be since there’s a cooldown to how fast you get the ammo back

[tall torrent]

Survivalist only matters for 2-3 guns outside of C-I-VI maelstrom and Havoc

[surreal gust]

Just not as insane

[tall torrent]

Bulwark go kaboom

[dusty sluice]

truee

[surreal gust]

Don’t bring it with las guns honestly

[inland orchid]

Stagger spam bosses with timed kraks

[surreal gust]

Lasguns have so much ammo

[tall torrent]

You don’t need survivalist for most game modes

There’s a lot of ammo on the map

[orchid hemlock]

Survivalist is fine, but you usually take it if you really want the shredders

It's not required on most builds anymore

Hang on I'll build a simple revolver tree

[dusty sluice]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b1cf20f-815c-4c83-81ca-5390c20c1115/vet-agri-iag this used to be my favourite build, was funny to uise agri iag with onslaught, would it still work (or how should i change it)

[dusty sluice]

how helpful are the others compared?

but yeh, im happy surivalist got a nerf

it was something

[tall torrent]

Fire team is veteran’s best aura generally speaking

[surreal gust]

Fire team is good, I like fire team

[inland orchid]

Mobility is nice, but who could say no to more dmg

[tall torrent]

Close & kill has insane pathing

[orchid hemlock]

Something like this ig

[tall torrent]

But fire team generally works better for breakpoints

[surreal gust]

The infiltrate penances are gonna be annoying

[tall torrent]

It’s ez

[surreal gust]

Same with smokes

[tall torrent]

It’s also ez

[surreal gust]

Do I just let myself get surrounded by hordes then use either

[tall torrent]

Takes like 3 games lol

[dusty sluice]

@tall torrent what would you say for this?

[tall torrent]

Yea

[surreal gust]

Ah

[dusty sluice]

oki, tyy

[tall torrent]

Wouldn’t recommend

[surreal gust]

Still need some more heresy and matches in general for on target 3

[tall torrent]

But if u have fun

[surreal gust]

Just like 18 more penances and I got vet’s done

[dusty sluice]

real

[orchid hemlock]

Wait who used Agri with onslaught back in the day? 🤔

[dusty sluice]

me bc it was fun

:3

[orchid hemlock]

Build looks OK, but why devils claw?

You have no answers for Maulers or Crushers

[thorn lily]

dbs dump stat is mobility? (looking at hammer of the will pinned doc)
thought reload speed could be dumped considering ws though

[tall torrent]

I now have:
Melee weapon (22)
Penances
Curios
Blessing section (6)
Introduction (7)
Enemies

[orchid hemlock]

Onlsuaght is cheeks on Agri so I wouldn't waste points trying to reach it either

[tall torrent]

And I think it’s all done?

[dusty sluice]

dclaws my favourite meele,it used to do this to crushers on dammnation (was silly)

[tall torrent]

Dump mobility yes

U could dump reload speed

But then again there’re situations where u need to reload

[orchid hemlock]

Do what?

All I see is using up half your ammo on headshoting a crusher to death?

[dusty sluice]

it was funny

[orchid hemlock]

I mean if it make su happy go ahead, but I was talking about devils claw not the Agri with onslaught

[dusty sluice]

ah fair, but could always swap to psword ig

[tall torrent]

Sunder power sword very fun

[orchid hemlock]

Only 3 weapons in the game that can take advantage of onslaught properly:

Vraks 5
Recon XII
Graia 4

Other than that it isn't worth and you should use the points for something else

[dusty sluice]

for killing crushers with psword, is it still block poke then light or has that changed?

[dusty sluice]

oki, ty for the advice :3

[tall torrent]

Push ATK + Light 4

However

Do not do that all the time

If u have a bunch of maulers for example

And if u have sunder

You should be using mostly light sweeping atks to stagger

Only use the push atk combo if you know you can’t be punished by nearby enemies

[dusty sluice]

didn't this used to oneshot crushers or am i crazy

[tall torrent]

Not 1 shot

2 hit (1 combo)

[orchid hemlock]

Even then I very rarely ever use onslaught, because the point cost is hard to justify for the niche value it gives you

It is very strong in melee specialist maels, but outside that it isn't very useful

[dusty sluice]

ye ty for reminding, for the horde clear, i remember they changed the light swings, what is it now?

[tall torrent]

[Special 1 or Special 2
-> block cancel
-> Light 1E
-> Light 2E
(-> Light 3E)]

L3E is not as good as the first 2 light atks for horde clear

But if u need it, u do it

[dusty sluice]

theres more than one special?

[tall torrent]

Technically no, but yes

[dusty sluice]

do the brautos not benifit?

[tall torrent]

There’re 2 special activation animations

They chain into different attacks

[wild vortex]

Yeah I recently tweaked my recon tree to include Onslaught and hoo boy does that node fuck

[dusty sluice]

ohhhhh, ik what you mean

[dusty sluice]

how bad of a idea would it be to switch to shredders?

[orchid hemlock]

Graia is a BAG

[tall torrent]

Not much, u just sacrifice CQKZ for it

It drops like

1-2 breakpoints (if u have sunder)

Not the biggest difference

[orchid hemlock]

The problem I have with onslaught, is that even if you pair it with a good weapon that cna proc is quickly, it only is useful in 2 scenerios:

Crushers
Bosses

[dusty sluice]

ill mess around with stuff, ty for the advice

[tall torrent]

These are

[wild vortex]

Infernus max stack on a 40 brittle boss are fun tho

[dusty sluice]

hows the agri brauto? :3

[orchid hemlock]

With onslaught? Dogshit

[dusty sluice]

real

[orchid hemlock]

But it is the best BAG

[tall torrent]

Dreg rager 2 hit (956 damage per light 1E/2E/3E)

Scab mauler 1 crit weakspot on Push ATK-E (2900 smth)

[orchid hemlock]

It's actually one of my favorite guns

[tall torrent]

With CQKZ up both of these u can get

[dusty sluice]

oh wait is this good now bc the crafting update

[tall torrent]

Wrong build

[inland orchid]

That’s the closest thing to a godroll in my book

Just gotta swap up the blessings and perks

[tall torrent]

Unarmored
Maniac
Point blank
Whatever u want

U can replace unarmored with elite if u take superiority complex

[dusty sluice]

howcome pb?

[tall torrent]

But that’s a 2 point sink

[tall torrent]

It’s the best crit blessing for revolver

Because the only crit related breakpoint on revolver is Dreg rager 1 shot

[dusty sluice]

damn surgical + handcannon not being the ideal pick?

[tall torrent]

You don’t need crit to hit any major breakpoint

[tall torrent]

Hand cannon doesn’t matter unless u rely on it for crushers (u shouldn’t)

Before scab rager buff, hand cannon was the easiest way to get scab rager crit 1 body shot

But now they have carapace chest so it’s flat out not worth it

[wild vortex]

Wait wasn't point blank bad

[tall torrent]

Yea when it didn’t work properly

[wild vortex]

In that it needed you to melee kill via pistol whip

[tall torrent]

Now it works properly

[wild vortex]

Holy

[tall torrent]

Any melee kill activates it

[wild vortex]

When did THAT change

[kind scarab]

I got double tapped by a sniper

[tall torrent]

You’re like 6 months late?

[kind scarab]

They didn't want me leaving

[wild vortex]

Amazing

[tall torrent]

I think it got fixed in U&L

Not sure

But it works properly now

[wild vortex]

Guess i somehow missed it

[faint beacon]

I counted

6

bursters at the end segment

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664591642967408640/1320852161265143878/axe.mp4?ex=67d1472f&is=67cff5af&hm=e3eacbe4bb69366ab93aa4cf97302a7210e990e053e8063be11fe542c66e42d4&

[faint beacon]

I am good I would rather exfil

LMAO

[kind scarab]

Yeah nah, you needed to RUN

I was literally thinking "Oh hope to god he ain't staying for our dumb asses"

[faint beacon]

I totally could've but the game said

[wild vortex]

1.8k damage taken is kinda wild

[kind scarab]

Don't ever second guess the escape

We died doing what we do best

[faint beacon]

I heard you like these guys

[kind scarab]

It's the fireworks for our escape

brb real quick, gonna grab a glass of water

[tall torrent]

I’ve seen 3.5k damage taken

Zealot

Not even martyrdom

[wild vortex]

And i thought i was bad

[faint beacon]

Ogryn with 5.0k Taken is the highest I've seen

[wild vortex]

[faint beacon]

3 HP curios

[kind scarab]

That's a lot of damage taken

[faint beacon]

literally went down every engagement

LMAO

[kind scarab]

Now i gotta check how much I got beat up

[wild vortex]

Crazy

[dusty sluice]

would it be worth swapping to pb on zealot aswell then?

[dusty sluice]

totally not me on zealott

[kind scarab]

Ya know, 600 ain't bad considering I haven't played since november

I'll take it

[hollow ibex]

Is there a penance for proccing until death 30 times a match or something

[faint beacon]

me who takes most 200

thats if I go down

LMAO

[kind scarab]

You're slippery

Call it an aquatic bonus

[faint beacon]

I call it abusing the fuck out of the knife

[dusty sluice]

would the build you suggested eariler also work fine for rashad then?

[kind scarab]

I'm also playing at ~200 ping

[faint beacon]

but yeah I mean im a shark so fuck it we ball

[kind scarab]

So I'll take whatever I can get

[tall torrent]

Point blank is the best crit blessing for revolver & boltpistol, period

[tall torrent]

Yea, axe / power sword interchangeable

[dusty sluice]

so thats a yes? :3

[kind scarab]

Was uhhhh

Tictac going to join?

Tax enjoyer

That's his name

Yes.

[faint beacon]

Uh

[kind scarab]

Sorry brain buffering

[faint beacon]

unsure but I know one of my friends wanted to join but he's currently in a match

[kind scarab]

Lets wait

The more the merrier

[inland orchid]

I got a big shield if y’all don’t mind an Ogryn

[kind scarab]

I've gone full cowboy cause they questioned my ability to kill

[grand perch]

im in another strike team

[tall torrent]

Well, unless u purely use revolver to take time to aim & snipe smth far away, yea

[kind scarab]

Bang bang

[faint beacon]

I could just go full skirmisher

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e5d07ed-5315-4bf9-8ba7-6c8e97287e1e/high-octane-methead-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

aka this meme build I made

[kind scarab]

I'm seeing what you're throwing

And I approve

[kind scarab]

I have a similar setup, except I got kraks instead and a shovel

[faint beacon]

Tehee

[kind scarab]

Had to drop the elite damage tho

[dusty sluice]

ty, what blessings/perks do you run on rashad?

[faint beacon]

I think his normal build is BM + HT with Cara and Unarmored

[tall torrent]

Unarmored
Carapace
Brutal momentum
Headtaker

U can swap unarmored to elite

It gives u very slightly better breakpoints in some niche conditions

But it’s worse QoL

[kind scarab]

I could run support zealot for the funnies

[dusty sluice]

howcome cara?

[faint beacon]

CDR abuse and spamming out Chorus basically

[tall torrent]

Do u want to 3 tap mauler & crusher

[kind scarab]

CDR Piety crit to team and Chorus

And ofc knoife

[faint beacon]

Zealot chat would have you skinned for running this

[dusty sluice]

oh yeah rashad can pen cara

[inland orchid]

Weird I’ve heard the crit to team is a bad decision, oh well

[kind scarab]

Good thing I don't care what anyone thinks so long as I find it hilarious

[inland orchid]

As long as ur enjoying yourself you’re playing the game “correctly”

[faint beacon]

Strikedowns my beloved

[kind scarab]

Oh trust me, I fucking hate it usually

[tall torrent]

Crit team is good

Situationally

[kind scarab]

^

[dusty sluice]

(this is all i have for now) will this miss bps?

[inland orchid]

Thank the god-emperor we have a lot of funny situations

[kind scarab]

The best situation would be combined with a crit aura psyker too, and everyone else also going crit sharing nonsense

[tall torrent]

Yea roll a new one

Max everything except mobility

[carmine tiger]

sure is funny guys

[kind scarab]

Easy 10% crit for everyone is actually very nice

[dusty sluice]

would do if i didn't make myself broke before the crafting update :(

just fixing everything first

[faint beacon]

I mean it'll do for now I suppose

[carmine tiger]

my veteran was named "JeffreyEpstein", but fatshark changed it to "Jeff", and today I found out its "James"

[kind scarab]

Do what for now?

[carmine tiger]

any ideas how they can change my name like that?

[inland orchid]

Like what

[faint beacon]

Cause its a blacklisted name

[carmine tiger]

Whaaat?

[faint beacon]

thus it forcefully changes it

[tall torrent]

It’s easy to roll weapons now

There’re only 2 weapons hard to roll perfect

[kind scarab]

Ohhhh

[inland orchid]

My brother in the god-emperor you know what that name has tied to it

[carmine tiger]

Guess JimmySaville is still okay though?

[dusty sluice]

yay crafting update being nice, just checking all my gear

[faint beacon]

Fuck if I know

[carmine tiger]

Seems to be

[faint beacon]

nor do I care to change my characters name to that

[narrow frost]

if they strike your name a 2nd time I think its a timeout

1st is a rename

[carmine tiger]

thats btw kinda the reason why i named it like that

[faint beacon]

well you have a solid IAG at least

[inland orchid]

And pray tell what is that reason

[carmine tiger]

gotta have that name in circulation lest it be forgotten

[dusty sluice]

what are they? :3

[faint beacon]

I dont think anyone is going to forget that

[carmine tiger]

i hope so

[tall torrent]

Veteran’s plasma gun
Ogryn’s ripper gun

[faint beacon]

Veteran's Plasma, Ogryn's Rumbler

or excuse me

yeah Ripper

[inland orchid]

So you’re the reason why they had to censor the name, an oversaturation of people wishing to remember

When he won’t be forgotten

[faint beacon]

idfk why I get the two confused

name wise

[dusty sluice]

any specific reasons why or is it just differnt base stats

[carmine tiger]

cant be more than one jeffreys out there

[faint beacon]

You want slightly lower ammo on Ogryn for Blaze Away stacking per shell

instead of every 2

and plasma

[carmine tiger]

although i do have it in many places

[faint beacon]

I'll let Path explain

I barely touch the thing he knows more about it then me

[tall torrent]

Plasma gains 1 extra continuous shot before venting at 68.?% or higher thermal resist

Charge rate affects hipfire’s pre-fire delay

Therefore it’s best to minimize that delay (which has up to 72%) while retaining max shots before venting (which has 68~69%)

Now the funny thing is

[kind scarab]

Funni Zealot build done

[tall torrent]

We don’t know what’s the specific thermal resist requirement

[inland orchid]

Many people can share the same thought without even knowing it

[kind scarab]

May the emperor have mercy on my soul

[tall torrent]

It’s a decimal above 68%

[inland orchid]

So there’s def more than one jeffy

[tall torrent]

But idk what it actually is

[carmine tiger]

true

[tall torrent]

So the safe recommendation is 69%

And this leaves 71% for charge rate

[dusty sluice]

oh thats actually super interesting

[carmine tiger]

My Greta Thundberg ogryn is still untouched

[faint beacon]

DM me it

[tall torrent]

71% charge rate is roughly 8.5% faster hipfire fire rate than 60% charge rate

It’s noticeable

As for ripper gun

At 66% ammo roll or lower

You can gain 1 blaze away & inspiring barrage stack per shot fired

Instead of stacking once per 2 shots fired

[dusty sluice]

hm

[faint beacon]

Running that with like PBB is INSANE fucking toughness back

[kind scarab]

Soon as the website stops dying

[tall torrent]

Usable compromise

[faint beacon]

For Ripper and Plasma

you'll easily spend 4 mil ordos

[tall torrent]

I think if you’re broke and u want plasma, dump thermal resist

[faint beacon]

Save them for dead last

[dusty sluice]

this is my main plas, i assume the blessings have changed

[dusty sluice]

real lmao

[tall torrent]

Rising heat + gets hot

Or
Blaze away + optimized cooling

Either or

[dusty sluice]

how does each perform/what do they do different?

[tall torrent]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1348002086515769344/Screenshot_2025-03-08_133842.png?ex=67d1d4c6&is=67d08346&hm=237b57d65aba9650accaad9ff92442da3f17c7552e65a19de57415e528ec5717&

[dusty sluice]

guh now i need to pickl

[kind scarab]

Pick or I'll pick for you

[tropic halo]

I will pick you both and throw to the barrel

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1291174300002418688/attachment.gif

[kind scarab]

I had a friend that'd always blow up the barrels when I walked past them

Thanks for reminding me to strangle him today.

[dusty sluice]

oki ty, whatrs the plasmagun build (if there is one)

[carmine tiger]

oh my god they changed jimmy aswell

[tall torrent]

What melee

[carmine tiger]

JimmySaville is now GEMMA

[kind scarab]

Sums it up nicely

[dusty sluice]

not too sure, what do people normally use?

[tropic halo]

"They killed our brute!"

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fight-gif-10290761239041307136

[tall torrent]

Well, what do u wanna use

[inland orchid]

My mind always wanders to shovels when I’m a vet, use wtv u fancy tho

[faint beacon]

We LOVE killing our teammates

Barrel PVP

[inland orchid]

There isn’t much “normal” play

These days at least

[dusty sluice]

psword ig

[tropic halo]

Cant we have a barrel launcher for ogryn already?

[tropic halo]

Peak choice

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185515648206512168/1330716961763495977/IMG_0666.png?ex=67d191ff&is=67d0407f&hm=17c69d62d85f03491084bad45103ed5209faaff7fad2e86c9fe09a26875590c7&

[kind scarab]

i stg if you barrel me, I'll let the trapper have her way with you

At least for a minute

[tropic halo]

[kind scarab]

Then I'll feel bad

[dusty sluice]

shredders yippeee

so what are the skills that affect bps?

[inland orchid]

Closest thing is bolt pistol’s explosion radius increaser, but that doesn’t effect how much bleed is gettin put out

Just how big the shredder frag’s explosion is

[dusty sluice]

you reminded me of how i died on the 4/5 aruic damm penance

[kind scarab]

Trapper... having their way with you?

[dusty sluice]

barrel

bolter teamate

[kind scarab]

Oh good

I was worried I unlocked some trapper ptsd instead

[dusty sluice]

i know exactly the barrel

[kind scarab]

Stealth trappers grabbing your ass is one hell of a jumpscare

[tall torrent]

Pretty much every one that affects damage that is taken or circled lol

[tropic halo]

That will be forever be a memory to you

[kind scarab]

Looks like darktide is telling me no

No clue what's going on but this server is just refusing to cooperate after a certain point in the mission

[viscid sparrow]

btw, what are the perks for a rashad caxe? I already have one with Bromentum and Headtaker (although I am still trying to figure out if Deci would be better for horde clear, considering it stacks more)

[hollow ibex]

Check pins

Don't do deci

Headtaker is all you need

[faint beacon]

@kind scarab You missed out on this

the sheer and utter BON spam

was something

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/580240175632744450/1311833000874348594/caption-6.gif

[kind scarab]

Yeah the game kept kicking me out the server and everything just kept sliding everywhere

Had to turn off the game and restart the computer cause of how weird it was acting

[tall torrent]

Unarmored
Carapace

Decimator is a lot worse than headtaker

[hollow ibex]

No glowing puss on its back

[grand perch]

theyre playing fastball with me

[kind scarab]

It's fine, your scales will keep you safe

they're like armor

Science time

Looks like something is either up with my internet, or the servers

Cause the US servers went from working fine for a few games to being an ungodly mess for me

Other servers are fine for now

[faint beacon]

US being the US

Abysmal Dogshit

[kind scarab]

Someone must've tripped on the server cable that connects EU to US

Cause damn

Shit went from fine to getting dc'd anytime a new horde spawned

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jRdatY08c-z-5dgv8?invite=cr-MSxYNUMsMTA3NDAxNTcz
@slow sky Forgot to @ you over this last night LMAO

[kind scarab]

Wait a minute

That ain't first person

[tame lodge]

Yeah
Sounds like classic cole

[slow sky]

i got dodge catched on geometry

https://tenor.com/view/kingdom-come-deliverance-henry-of-skalitz-kcd-kcd-2-kingdom-come-deliverance-2-gif-8513144675739880089

[faint beacon]

Random join him

and he immmediately starts dying left and right

LMAO

[slow sky]

i said this before but like
person i know joins the game

instantly start sucking balls

[faint beacon]

the curse

[slow sky]

it happens literally every single time

@tame lodge joined me on logi too and i blew myself up like 2 times at end event on knife melee psyker

[faint beacon]

MELEE KNIFE PSYKER

HOW COLE

[slow sky]

was a while ago

[faint beacon]

im just sitting wondering how do you fuck that up

LMAO

[slow sky]

it was before the warp unbound node was added

so assail with scriers was scary

[faint beacon]

Okay nvm makes sense

[slow sky]

and no crack of bone

[faint beacon]

back when Meleeker required a bit more brain

[slow sky]

it still happens occasionally

but like

[faint beacon]

hence why every psyker main is ass at Melee

[slow sky]

once every 15 games

and its always when nothings happening so im not paying attention

[faint beacon]

Inshallah

smite this psyker where he stands

[slow sky]

never smite

[faint beacon]

I love mods

[kind scarab]

Good

Good answer

[tame lodge]

I only found that it was Cole at the very end of the mission

[kind scarab]

That's a mood

[tame lodge]

That shit is definitely passive

[kind scarab]

Welp, sleepy time for me. Got work in a few hours.

Y'all miscreants and rejects behave while I'm gone

And if you don't, at least lemme know if it was funny

[dusty sluice]

how goob is bolter vet

[dreamy scaffold]

..goob?

[dusty sluice]

good

[dreamy scaffold]

ah right

i like it

[surreal gust]

It’s aight

Simple and effective, but nothing special for vet

I like bolter with a shovel

[hollow ibex]

Nothing special? It's like the most satisfying gun to use 😭

[narrow frost]

with exstance its best dps outsid ehavoc

[hollow ibex]

On top of being very good

[narrow frost]

vets 2nd (?) best gun

havoc not in mind

[tropic notch]

What music is that lol

[faint beacon]

I dont recall tbh I have the most random ass shit on

[faint beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1080617381329637417/1276396054413180979/ezgif-3-10bb9ebb51.gif

[tall torrent]

4~5th best (requires a full dedicated tree with exe stance)

If it wasn’t so costly to run then top 3

[narrow frost]

zarona plasma recon?

[tall torrent]

Plasma same 4~5th

[dusty sluice]

i am too sleepy to decide for myself, what would you use?

[tall torrent]

Revolver, recon and IAG5 are top 3

Boltgun & plasma roughly similar tier

I don’t think there’s a massive difference in strength between any of the top 5 anyway

[narrow frost]

I agree

[midnight mortar]

Oh, is recon finally good? Haven't played in a long while.

[tall torrent]

Twinned blast + CQKZ

[hollow ibex]

Yeah got massively buffed

[dusty sluice]

whjuyy

[tall torrent]

What enemy

[dusty sluice]

gunner with bpistol

just messing around

[tall torrent]

Boltpistol needs superiority complex

[dusty sluice]

ah

[midnight mortar]

In what way? Crit properties? I assume it's still not going to deal with carapace well.

[radiant chasm]

it has infinite ammo

basically

[dusty sluice]

wait so what path

[radiant chasm]

and isn't wildly innefficient anymore

[tall torrent]

Put the last 2 points into twinned blast + CQKZ

[dusty sluice]

oki ty :3

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204540553971372072/1337110896920756296/RDT_20241118_2201016645429803181321652-1.gif

how do people best make use of plas now?

[tall torrent]

Hipfire, click head

Don’t bother shooting crusher or bulwark with it

[dusty sluice]

howcome?

also i feel my dodges on vet are much, shorter? since the last time i played

[tall torrent]

Not worth the ammo cost

[tall torrent]

Power sword dodge is short

Only 2.2m at max mobility

[dusty sluice]

just psword instead?

[tall torrent]

Well u have a sword that can 2 hit kill a crusher, why would you need to waste 9-12 ammo to do the same thing slower

As for bulwark

Takes 15 ammo

Can only stagger on weakspot hit

Power sword can 2 hit them anyway

At best u can shoot bulwark head to stagger

It also doesn’t cleave through bulwark shield or crusher

[dusty sluice]

i should probably get cara on my psword

[tall torrent]

Carapace
Elite
Power cycler
Sunder

Or
Maniac
Elite
Power cycler
Brutal momentum

[dusty sluice]

yeah this is what i have atm

will change it when not broke

whats the ciag(or whatever its renamed too) build now?

[hollow ibex]

VIAG now

Build hasn't changed

[dusty sluice]

ill have mine somewhere but what do you goobers suggest

[hollow ibex]

Uhh not by my PC but I think I actually run keystoneless ES

But FT and MF keystones are prob a good idea

[patent prairie]

If I was buying a plasma gun and naturally everything is 80% except 1 which would be 60%. Which one do I sacrifice? Ammo? Charge rate? Or Thermal Heat?
(I wanna keep damage and stopping power to still have that cannon feel)

[narrow frost]

charge 71-72, thermal 69-68

this will allow you to shoot 8 light attacks in a row

[patent prairie]

Oh? Instead of a perfect gun it should instead be 2 slots imperfect?

[patent prairie]

hmm gotcha

[narrow frost]

plasma does not have a dump stat

[patent prairie]

Oh? Perfect then cheers mate

[tall torrent]

It’s one of the only 2 weapons that want a super specific & weird stat distribution

[patent prairie]

Oh great love complex weapons

[narrow frost]

whats the other?

[tired trellis]

Anyone running mods using the modload that can help me out with a question? trying to setup my mod loading order

[tall torrent]

Ogryn ripper gun

[narrow frost]

so it isnt a collat dump

(I dont use ripper)

[tall torrent]

It’s very specifically 66 ammo to stack blessings faster without losing too much in ammo reserve

66 ammo
80 damage
80 range

The other 2 stats don’t matter much

Way more lenient than plasma but still wants 3 specific stats on specific numbers

[broken spade]

...is this some cursed blaze away stacking bs?

[dusty sluice]

@tall torrent you hgave one?

[broken spade]

ciag got renamed to viag

vraaks

[tall torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[tall torrent]

Just run 5% crit chance node and reciprocity

[dusty sluice]

real

[tall torrent]

You’re basically set

[dusty sluice]

what abt onslaught?

[tall torrent]

U have a power sword that 2 hits crushers

[dusty sluice]

fair

[tall torrent]

If u ever wonder about whether you should take onslaught

Think about what melee u have

The thought process goes like this

Do you have a strong anti-armor melee weapon?
Yes -> no onslaught
No -> Do you want to use a strong anti-armor melee weapon but it costs talent points to be optimal?
Yes -> spend those points on melee, don’t run onslaught
No -> Do you really want to magdump crushers with your gun?
Yes, with Vraks V / Recon XII -> run onslaught
Yes, but no specific ranged weapon in mind -> Boltgun + executioner’s stance
No -> what are you doing?

[unreal nova]

Or you just do it if you want to anyway.

[hollow ibex]

Should you take onslaught? -> No

[latent parcel]

Karien the karry! did u get ur h40 done

[unreal nova]

You want to run?

[dusty sluice]

actually, what is ds dump

[latent parcel]

saw you playing eariler

did u get it or no

[unreal nova]

Mobility or cleave damage/defence.

[dusty sluice]

ah thats the other

[tame lodge]

Viagra

Sorry I couldn't let the joke go

[sinful swallow]

Why not penetration if you run uncanny?

[unreal nova]

Yes, it was a dookshow.

[latent parcel]

oh so ur done with havoc

for the week

[unreal nova]

That's the meme DS5 off Gloriana build.

[latent parcel]

[sinful swallow]

Lol

[unreal nova]

I would entertain you with a run if you wanted though.

[latent parcel]

i wouldnt put you through that

ik u dont have fun in h40's

😢

[dusty sluice]

wait vet gers hsword?

[unreal nova]

Yes?

[unreal nova]

It's just stressful.

[latent parcel]

you misspelled fun

😄

i think @vernal trench quit until the 25th

[unreal nova]

S.T.R.E.S.S.F.U.L.

[dusty sluice]

oh also, what the bpistol perks/blesings (and dump)

bc its normally collat

but also mobility is there

[tall torrent]

Collateral dump 60%
Unarmored
Maniac
Puncture
Lethal proximity / point blank / run&gun

[dusty sluice]

alr, i assume da is not a pick anymore

[tall torrent]

Never been a staple pick on it

[dusty sluice]

fair

its nice to see lp is a good choice

its fun

[unreal nova]

Why wouldn't it be? 'Nades are fun.

[hollow ibex]

Yeah this was added in the last major patch. They didn't used to.

Which is probably why you're confused

[vernal trench]

na im doin my weekly tmr

[latent parcel]

hell yea

with karien right?

[vernal trench]

fuck no

imma egt it done and if a good map ill duo if not imma proly rest for the week

burned out

i hate book

[unreal nova]

He hates book.

You want to 3 book zealot Chonky?

[dusty sluice]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b07ce96-3de7-4f4e-9ac1-261f51e53230/vet-laspistol is smth like this fine, or how should i change it (old)

[latent parcel]

il play book for @vernal trench

[full schooner]

whats book may i ask

[formal ice]

Book thing poison or nothin

Got it?

I hope so

[full schooner]

yes sah

i havent even looked into havoc yet, gotta do that at some point

[vernal trench]

imma touch u

[latent parcel]

Hope your watching some professional ogryn gameplay i linked you

[full schooner]

somehow still not as sus as stuff i see in the mourningstar chat

[unreal nova]

Zealot Chorus.

[full schooner]

oh lmao i thought you guys were talking about some modifer not the zealot ability

im smort

why no like book?

[hollow ibex]

Golden toughness is very strong and makes the game boring for adrenaline junkies

[arctic rampart]

chorus has some fun extras . notably walking bosses into the abyss.

if you're less than a hundred hours by default go for voice of command on vet and book on zealot. it will really up your winrate and help you learn the mechanics. if you're an idiot looking for death then dont use your talent points and use grey quality shredder

[hollow ibex]

True

[full schooner]

hate the shredder

[tame lodge]

The Gun? Yeah on a bad state rn

Buffs on the 25th though

[full schooner]

I only used it to get the mastery done but of all the weapons ingame i found it least enjoyable

I'm sure its good with a good build and a better player than i but i'll stick with the emprahs flashlights

[tame lodge]

(no it's not)

[narrow frost]

it is

[tame lodge]

It's kinda literally the worst ranged weapon in the game

[narrow frost]

as someone who uses it

[tame lodge]

Yeah for what
Toughness?

Trapper?

[narrow frost]

stagger toughness and specials

[full schooner]

but flashlight

[jaunty sphinx]

I like the way the shredder shoots a lot but it's just so god awful and does no damage

At least it staggers but so does the bolt pistol

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[full schooner]

it's also kinda cheeks lookin tbh

[jaunty sphinx]

I like it...

[hollow ibex]

900% ammo taken for 50k ranged damage moment

[narrow frost]

I got a few havoc 40 with it

wait

nevermind

[radiant chasm]

stagger specials and deal less damage to maniacs than most other guns