veteran-class

[vernal trench]

All they needed to do was escape and win but one pox burster got all 4 book zealots

Now thats an achievement if u ask me

[brittle marten]

was it a recent stream?

[vernal trench]

Na a month ago probably

4 book zealots

[brittle marten]

4 book zealots 💀

[vernal trench]

https://www.youtube.com/live/TDrnY5260gM?si=zTMIAYEafkko8KCT

2:42:10

There it is

Never die my ass

[brazen mural]

It was this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Jk5iG0VPU&t=652s

[vernal trench]

He even has reshade mod to see in livhts out

Lights

[brazen mural]

The thumbnail got me XD

[vernal trench]

Trust me, never trust darktide youtubers

[normal bay]

Bruh

[vernal trench]

They almost never know half of what theyre talking about

[brittle marten]

i just have mod that transform my weapons flashlight into sun

[vernal trench]

Watch the stream ull see it

[brittle marten]

ye i see

[vernal trench]

2:42:10

[brazen mural]

What about tanner? He has such confidence and carisma

[vernal trench]

Lights out is rough but cmon 4 book zealots

[vernal trench]

Hes so bad lmfao

No offense

[brittle marten]

xd i saw ye how they died

[faint beacon]

Me who just puts a Flashlight on my Vigilant Auto and that’s kinda about it

[vernal trench]

Its actually so funny i couldnt believe my eyes when watching it

[faint beacon]

The joy is barely being able to see in lights out outside of the torch on your weapon

[vernal trench]

Best part is the 50 maulers and crushers just blend straight into the dark

[brazen mural]

I am joking, I do not like to watch his videoes. I just remember seeing 2 min of a video 1 year ago

[normal bay]

Me playing Ogryn without Heavy stubber (I can't see shit)

[vernal trench]

He puts taunt and infiltrate in D or F tier

[brazen mural]

I like to watch telepots, he is fun

[vernal trench]

I think that says enough about tanner

[brittle marten]

some guy asked what went wrong after they all died

xd

[narrow frost]

atleast tele is good

[vernal trench]

Maybe couldve been that one burster that got through 4 book zealots

Idk how u can lose its the most cheese setup one can ever have

U can have constant book the entire game through and still lose

[faint beacon]

Extended weapon customization for the sole purpose of adding the smallest QOL stuff to your weapons

[brittle marten]

wait doesnt heavy stubber have flashlight?

[vernal trench]

Yea it does i think

[faint beacon]

It does

Twin linked doesn’t

[normal bay]

Yes, hence "without"

[hollow ibex]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/10799950802814370/81F116DF9F1C52594C33C519431C878E3B289383/

@vernal trench

this is why i play DB shotgun

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

everytime i see a rager horde

[vernal trench]

Thats a lot of rager kills

[hollow ibex]

you should try it someday

maybe even in havoc 😏

[vernal trench]

This is why i love high ping

[vernal trench]

No

[vernal trench]

Just no

[hollow rose]

gamers, which DS mark was the instant kill stab one?

[hollow ibex]

outskilled

[hollow ibex]

idk what you mean by "instant kill" but i assume you're looking for mkiv

[vernal trench]

No matter how good u are u can never beat ping

[hollow ibex]

just need to be so good that your inputs transcend space time boundaries

[vernal trench]

True

I will learn how to time travel by playing darktide

[hollow ibex]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/10799950802878074/78E3E9E1AECE1CD63CB4FB7A5AC15798A1C4626E/

more double barrel propaganda

[normal bay]

What DoT are you applying with it? Bleed?

[hollow ibex]

there may or may have not have been two grenades involved

[normal bay]

Ah

[tropic notch]

ON BOOK?

[brazen mural]

Oh my gosh, I feel so stupid. I tried a similar build without deadshot, and yeah.... I took no dmg, killed most elites and specials in all categories, most boss dmg and only 70% horde kills compared to the one who was best. Looks like deadshot was the reason, ahahaa

Real knowledge diff^^

[inland orchid]

if it makes u feel better ive never used deadshot on my vet

and ive been around since before talent trees

[brazen mural]

Oh, I started playing on the Beta as well 😄

[inland orchid]

i prefer my stam used for melee or mobility purposes

if i wanted my ranged to consume stam i'd throw myself off flow wise

[brazen mural]

Was just listening to the very wise youtubers we have in this community...

And got lynched for it a little higher up in the chat, ahah

[hollow ibex]

there's very few YTers worth watching for DT unfortunately

plenty of fake news

[inland orchid]

when u got lads gunning for views more than actual advice

that can happen

[hollow ibex]

yeah esp when actual advice takes a shit ton of research

[brazen mural]

This was the reason we lost missions, I carried when I did not have stupid deadshot with infantry autogun...

[brazen mural]

Yes, but some of the builds sound very fun to try. And the high risk high reward of deadshot infantry autogun, was very fun. But if I made a small mistake, I died and lost my team the game. SO I guess if I played it perfectly it could have been decent as the dmg defiantly was there, but one can probably say that about many gimmicky builds

Next time I want to try deadshot with infantry autogun I will use weapon specialist with stamina regen on melee mode, that will probably be less sucidal than the build i posted earlier

[hollow ibex]

it's gonna feel pretty bad to play

if you want to run deadshot with a keystone, FT prob better

or run MF with this

[brazen mural]

I belive invigorated is more consisten with when you need the stamina

[hollow ibex]

it just doesn't synergize well with deadshot

WS really encourages you to be in the thick of melee

[brazen mural]

That is fair, as the crit rate from weapon specialist is way to much already

[hollow ibex]

which is counter to what you want to do with more shoot-heavy builds

[hollow ibex]

that is only for one shot so keep that in mind lol

the crit bonus that is

[brazen mural]

lol, i forgot wrong

[sleek garden]

deadshot marksmans focus works very well with a zarona shotgun build

but high rof guns not so much

[hollow ibex]

what do you even need deadshot on zarona for?

you already 2 tap crushers and one tap reapers

[marble snow]

What’re the best blessings for the recon lasgun

[tropic notch]

please fatshark put this on ws

[hollow ibex]

Dumdum infernus

[marble snow]

Isn’t infernus kinda shit

[errant blade]

I prefer headhunter + inferuns

[errant blade]

They buff a little bit infernus

[hollow ibex]

No it's very good

[hollow ibex]

Dumdum is mandatory, you don't not take dumdum if it's available

[errant blade]

You can stack 12 not 10

[marble snow]

Fair enough I’ll use that the.

[errant blade]

But headhunter give you crit on weak spot and you will recover some ammo on crit hit

[hollow ibex]

Recon las already has some pretty incredible ammo economy

[errant blade]

I don't remember name of the passive

[errant blade]

But you can save more ammo for damage

[hollow ibex]

And you'll save ammo by killing things with fewer bullets

By using dumdum

[errant blade]

I know but i prefer save more ammo and build crit chance then go raw damage

[hollow ibex]

maybe if you're using recon literally for nothing else but burn stacks, HH would be the way to go

but nobody plays that way

[errant blade]

I see people play that way

[hollow ibex]

lol nah, everyone just sprays until dead

which means they should be using dumdum

[errant blade]

For me it's a little brain dead build but meh if you like it then play it.

Oh and you need stack "fragility" on hit

[hollow ibex]

you're using onslaught?

[hollow ibex]

and i mean people doing this would need to have the debuff mod installed

i wonder if even 5% of the playerbase has that mod lol

[inland orchid]

given that alot of people arent playing on pc?

ya thats a solid guess

[errant blade]

I mean this passive

[hollow ibex]

yeah onslaught

[errant blade]

For me this is must have if you want kill crashers/morlers etc.

[hollow ibex]

I find it better to just use melee usually

Onslaught is a very expensive talent to take

[uncut pebble]

We're talking about recon with onslaught?

[surreal gust]

is there a better way to do the kill enemies with a grenade before it touches the ground

[uncut pebble]

Queue ascension riser, wait for horde to spawn on the bridge, get 25(?) meters away from your team while they're fighting, throw grenade.

I'm pretty sure 25m is the max range detonation distance.

[surreal gust]

do i have to wait for ascension riser to come into the rotation or

[hollow ibex]

yup

[uncut pebble]

The other one you could do is chasm station.

Both open with a long bridge and have a horde spawn on the bridge.

[surreal gust]

my only chasm station is damnnation which I don't want to play rn so I'll wait

[drifting verge]

Whats the best infantry las gun

[faint beacon]

Mk VII

The best all rounder for them

[drifting verge]

Rn I got a IIb

[faint beacon]

IX got power crept, and IIB is more so a Run and Gun type build

[drifting verge]

Alright I'll keep my IIb

As I run voice of command and mostly use my gun to pop specialists or thin crowds before swapping to chainsword

This a good roll?

[faint beacon]

Check pins for other suggestions but I recommend getting in the habit of using your gun for mainly elites and specials and any trash you kill with melee

[drifting verge]

I just shoot hordes for the fun of it since I have a lot of ammo

I'm a vermintide vet I know the song and dance of a fatshark horde game

[faint beacon]

Talents you want for a Mk IIB build

Determined is the rare "must take" talent with Las Infantry cause suppression is a bitch with them

shakes the sight all over the place vs 90% of the weapons

[drifting verge]

Yeah I already have that I'm level 30

Was just wondering if I was using the worst ever las gun this whole time

[faint beacon]

If you were using IX

I would've said yes

IIb and VII are about on par with eachother just different playstyles

[drifting verge]

Also is there other version of the chainsword?

[faint beacon]

but VII is arguably better with how much harder it hits

[drifting verge]

Or do I not need to worry about that

[faint beacon]

There's XIIIg and IV

XIIg is kinda just light spam in hordes or you can actually use its rare horde clear combo

IV is heavy spam

[drifting verge]

Which is best?

I use it for boss shredding and just overall rev one tapping

[faint beacon]

Chainswords really aren't the best on Vet

they're fun and playable

but they aren't the best

[drifting verge]

Its about the vibe

[faint beacon]

You'd be looking at this

[normal sparrow]

Relay station mid event
Silo cluster mid event
Vigil station post mid event
Hab dreyko/chasm logistratum starting area (need luck for horde trigger)

[faint beacon]

I'd say like the top- Melee's on Veteran

[normal sparrow]

likely more, its about recognizing possible spot

[surreal gust]

just got it on chasm station, but thanks

[faint beacon]

that fit on any build

Are Powersword, Knife, Dueling Sword, and Shovel, and technically Heavy Sword

everything else usually has a massive weakness you have to work around

Shovel and Heavy Sword do as well just they excel at their jobs so much you can work around it much easier

[drifting verge]

I will never use dueling sword out of principle

Doesn't feel right

[faint beacon]

I mean

its literally the best melee in the game

I cant blame you

[drifting verge]

Yeah I know

Its just

Its too refined

[faint beacon]

I refuse to touch it cause its like the most overpowered thing ever to grace Darktide LMAO

Thats an Exageration but still

[drifting verge]

Its 40k I wanna hit them with a twenty pound brick of steel with a knife on it

[faint beacon]

its incredibly fucking overpowered

[drifting verge]

I've seen

Its like

The coghammer plus rapier and pistol from vermintide two

Attack pattern wise

[faint beacon]

Oh I forgot the most overpowered melee on the human classes that isn't Dueling Sword

Combat Axe

mainly Rashad to be exact

[hollow ibex]

at least rashad takes investment to be usable lol

[faint beacon]

Kinda?

You can play it without TFD

it just feels slower

Now if we were talking about Achlys

okay

fair

[hollow ibex]

it feels pretty bad without it though

[faint beacon]

ehhhhhhhhhh

I feel like thats a stretch

[hollow ibex]

and it's weaker on zealot and psyker

and if you don't take tfd, you still need to hit breakpoints

so it requires investment

[faint beacon]

Have you played Scriers DD Rashad?

[hollow ibex]

unlike DS

[faint beacon]

That shit is stupid strong

[hollow ibex]

yes, i mained it on psyker before fgs

before psykers learned about the 1 key

[faint beacon]

Psykers and the 1 key

impossible

Anyways mandatory use Heavy Sword on veteran post here

and Tac Axe

[hollow ibex]

yeah taxe is the shit

[surreal gust]

i got both of the first for the emperors from long bomb lol

[tall torrent]

it's mathematically just losing 12% of its light atk dps but mainly loses a lot of safety because u can really get punished by groups of enemies due to its slower swings

[hollow ibex]

and it feels bad 😦

[ashen kiln]

Ok. I’m not trying to insult this class, but I need help figuring out how Veteran is at all useful or fun. Don’t get me wrong, I want so badly to love this class, but no matter how much I play, what build or weapons I use, it just…sucks. What am I missing? Yes, I know. If I don’t enjoy playing it, it wasn’t meant to be and I just should play a Psyker or Zealot instead. I have those. I want to be able to pick up a Veteran and be effective at, I don’t know, anything at all. Do I suck at this game? Yes. But I can pick up my Psyker or Zealot and move through a mission well while contributing to the overall success of the mission. But not at all with the Veteran.

Please help me find a way to like this class!

[faint beacon]

How do play Veteran

That’s my question

[ashen kiln]

I’ve tried several different ways. I can’t find any way that works

[faint beacon]

Well I’m asking like

Do you strictly gun

Strictly melee

How do you exactly play

[ashen kiln]

I’ve tried close range, long range, spray and pray, sniping, melee, support, aggressive, defensive. Just everything I can think of. It all fails me

I can run both my Zealot and Psyker any of these ways and be effective

[mental cloud]

I run vet similar to zealot except I throw shredder grenades the whole time.

And try to be first to shoot snipers and and gunners

[faint beacon]

Veteran is the definition of a Hybrid class

You want to try to lean just a tad bit more into melee just cause hordes are inevitable

But you pull your gun out the moment a special even looks at you

[hollow ibex]

yeah and vet melee is very strong

i see way too many vets just spray the entire fucking game, end up bottom damage with most ammo taken

[faint beacon]

The biggest thing you’re probably struggling to adjust to is

Veteran has the WORST stam regen in the game

[mental cloud]

Facts

[ashen kiln]

I assumed it was the jack of all trades class. I just can’t get it to stand on its own

[faint beacon]

Everyone has a .5 second delay

Veteran has 1 second

[hollow ibex]

it very much is, try one of the basic bitch meta builds and start from there

[faint beacon]

Hence you try to take near the bottom a .25 stam delay node

Also always take iron will

[hollow ibex]

(meanwhile me always ignoring the node for something else )

[faint beacon]

That talent alone lets veteran be actually on par with Ogryn and Zealot

[hollow ibex]

i live on the edge

[faint beacon]

In regards to Toughness damage reduction

[ashen kiln]

Can anyone suggest a build that they find fun and effective?

[hollow ibex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e3a17a9-c4c4-4f9b-855b-c37250ad14f2/basic-bitch-recon-las

should be self-explanatory and easy to get into

rashad is the bread and butter of vet

[ashen kiln]

Thanks guys. The pointers do help. I’ll try this build out

[hollow ibex]

use it to learn the class

[ashen kiln]

Rashad? Im not sure what that is

[unreal nova]

Combat Axe.

[faint beacon]

Combat Axe

[hollow ibex]

this thing

[ashen kiln]

Ok. Will look into it

[hollow ibex]

it's a beast

[faint beacon]

Imagine literally just spamming lights

And deleting hordes

Behold Rashad Veteran

[hollow ibex]

incredibly powerful, and mostly braindead gameplay, but not fully

[faint beacon]

Personally I’m not a fan

[hollow ibex]

unlike DS, which is just fully braindead

[faint beacon]

If you want more interactive gameplay but you need to work around it

[unreal nova]

That's just knoife though.

[hollow ibex]

there's enough ragers on auric that i feel entertained playing rashad

[faint beacon]

Consider Shovel, Heavy sword, or Tac Axe

[unreal nova]

You can either go stupid complex or haha spam.

[hollow ibex]

neither of the knife marks are super complex though

[ashen kiln]

Very good things to think about

[unreal nova]

Path doesn't agree though. I think he's hating the idea of making the attack pattern tree for the mk6.

[ashen kiln]

I love knife builds but they hurt my fingers

[faint beacon]

Knife has like two ways of building it on Vet

[ashen kiln]

So, should I lean into melee more like a 70/30 split?

[faint beacon]

Click on head instantly delete enemy

[faint beacon]

Bingo

That’s exactly how me and path describe vets playstyle

[ashen kiln]

Okay. Good place to start

[faint beacon]

Your gun is up when there’s too many shooters or if any elite or special is in play

Though you mainly focus melee

[ashen kiln]

Thanks guys

[hollow ibex]

well the possible patterns might be complex, but the actual optimal attack pattersn for combat are braindead simple

[faint beacon]

Also veteran has a really nice thing known as

Grenade regen

[unreal nova]

I mean, punch stab.

[hollow ibex]

generally you melee basic hordes, bruisers, maulers and crushers. most specialists can be shot, except muties.

[faint beacon]

So you can if things get incredibly hairy toss a few frags at your feet if you’re running shredders

[unreal nova]

Push stab.

[hollow ibex]

yeah abuse the shredders

don't just sit on them

[ashen kiln]

Good tips, all

[faint beacon]

You get one every minute with stockpile

[unreal nova]

Boltpistols makes boom beeg.

[faint beacon]

And demo team you can get a shit ton back

Fun fact

Veteran is one of the only classes

[unreal nova]

Get lethal prox.

[faint beacon]

To have a dedicated grenadier build

I wasn’t about to say Blitz cause that’s just EP Psyker

[unreal nova]

That's just trauma gameplay though?

[ashen kiln]

I appreciate all the help

[narrow frost]

@ashen kiln

some gameplay of vet

Auric Damnation

[faint beacon]

He’s running my more gun focused build……..

Smh….

[unreal nova]

But WS is fun.

[faint beacon]

MF Exec is kino when you want to delete every special elite and shooter in existence

Anyways Veteran is nice cause you lean far into melee or lean far into ranged

But obviously the meta for vet is the Hybrid playstyle

[ashen kiln]

Interesting ways to play. Will definitely give these all a try

[unreal nova]

Too gun with non-las=you eat too much ammo so you might ruin the fun for others or maybe even yourself.

Too melee, you might just want to just play Zealot instead.

[ashen kiln]

Good point

[faint beacon]

Kid named Survivalist aura

[narrow frost]

I would disagree with that

[faint beacon]

I would as well

[narrow frost]

vet is the only class that gets free ammo

and melee vet plays differently than zealot

[unreal nova]

Eh, it doesn't give you back enough for a good number of guns, and obviously we are skipping las types.

[narrow frost]

it all comes down to your playstyle and fav weapons

since zel doesnt get shovel

and P-sword

[faint beacon]

So you use your frags or melee to get it back IF

your gun has terrible ammo Econ

Cough Bolter

[unreal nova]

And bolter is why I'm always annoyed.

Guy gets 95% of all ammo, still complains about NO AMMO.

[hollow ibex]

shovel is overrated anyway

[faint beacon]

Explode

Mk1 is peak

[unreal nova]

Nu, Mk3.

I wanna crack open them crushers.

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/a-few-good-men-you-cant-handle-the-truth-jack-nicholson-gif-19436076

[faint beacon]

Honestly Ainz idk if you can agree with me on this but I feel like the Mk3 and 7 should get the Rev Gimmick where you can dodge out of special hits in order to avoid getting hit whilst using the special

Cause right now it’s very much a Commit or die

[narrow frost]

its been awhile since I used flips

[faint beacon]

Flips are fun

Just

[unreal nova]

Why 3, it's a MUCH faster pullout.

[faint beacon]

Slightly weaker than mk1

I use Mk7

[narrow frost]

also gaming rn, not fully invested into shovels rn

[faint beacon]

It’s just way slow with pullout

[unreal nova]

Justice best girl.

[unreal nova]

Like I said, mk3 because pullout is MUCH faster.

Tried mk7, hated the long slow pullout.

[faint beacon]

Can’t hear you I’m playing Peak Rise

[narrow frost]

tempted to redownload bo3

and do solo easter eggs

[faint beacon]

Issue is it’s horde clear options are FAR weaker vs 7 and 1

[faint beacon]

You ever play BO2?

[unreal nova]

I point at 2 frags.

[narrow frost]

not that much

wasnt my fav

[faint beacon]

A mod team recently remastered Die Rise

Holy shit

It’s so good on BO3

Lots of QOL stuff that Die Rise lacked

Genuinely this remaster if it was legit would’ve bumped it up to like a Top 5 favorite map

Also look if you redownload BO3 I’m totally willing to do the Die Rise EE

[narrow frost]

hmmm

[faint beacon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3435762796

LIKE IM JUST SAYING ITS REALLY FUCKING GOOD AINZ

[narrow frost]

isnt there a way to download just the zombie stuff

[faint beacon]

Unfortunately no

Why I have mine downloaded on a separate SSD lmao

[narrow frost]

100GB

damn

@faint beacon

maybe

[faint beacon]

Oh fuck I forgot about that

Origins EE is kinda peak if you have Zombies Chronicles

[narrow frost]

got all DLC

[faint beacon]

Shangri-La is probably the only map I've never bothered with cause its just

utterly brutal doing

[narrow frost]

100GB into 28GB

easy

[faint beacon]

Didn't read this till now

cause I know this Dev team is working on remaking TranZit and Buried

but thats pretty fucking huge actually

@tall torrent I think you should consider trying BO3 zombies sometime in the future...

not now cause its fucking stupid expensive till it goes on sale

[terse idol]

Need the blop3 sale

[narrow frost]

I think I got the game and all zombie dlc for like $40 when it was on a sale

[terse idol]

[faint beacon]

You missed it

[narrow frost]

which is better than its like $100+ without sale

[faint beacon]

Feb 1-24th

[terse idol]

[faint beacon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3373649394
@narrow frost Another Faithful BO2 Zombies map remaster as well

I know there's Call of The Dead as well if you played Black Ops 1

[normal sparrow]

You can swap out the pullout animation if the fold kills

[faint beacon]

If it kills-

[unreal nova]

Unless you run some meme thrust, it's 2 taps to kill.

[faint beacon]

Now im saying what about being able to dodge out like rev attacks do

if it doesn't

[normal sparrow]

Breakpoint gud

[tall torrent]

I don’t really get the hype behind cod zombies

I think I’d go play DRG and finish its seasonal pass if I get bored of DT from time to time

[faint beacon]

Incredibly classic horde shooter basically

[tall torrent]

Or do DT guide

Or play DK2

I also got rogue trader which I rly want to start but haven’t had the time to

[glacial sigil]

What's veteran's playstyle supposed to be like?
I finished levelling my zealot to level 30 now I'm trying a second character which is a vet and I keep dying at difficulty 2 💀

[narrow frost]

anything you want it to be

pick a cool weapon and build for it

[tall torrent]

50:50 melee/ranged combat split

[narrow frost]

when I play vet I dont shoot my gun

[glacial sigil]

I do want it to be different than the zealot's "I will beat everything up" playstyle

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664591642967408640/1320852161265143878/axe.mp4?ex=67c4c0ef&is=67c36f6f&hm=a0fc4c19d9ea5fe5d358022aba872b406f671f662effaa918fe0c357d540dabd&

[glacial sigil]

In that case why not play Zealot? I'm asking out of curiosity

[tall torrent]

This is a good general indicator

[unreal nova]

More, 33 melee, 33 ranged, 33 'nades, 1 somehow on the floor.

[narrow frost]

shovel

[faint beacon]

Veteran rewards precision

[narrow frost]

shout

grenade regen

[faint beacon]

Powersword

[tall torrent]

Veteran has more ranged build options

It looks smth like this in terms of melee/ranged split
Veteran is ~50:50
Zealot is ~80:20
Psyker is ~20:80
Ogryn is ~90:10

[glacial sigil]

So if both Vet and Zealot can do melee but zealot can mostly do melee only doesn't that make Veteran objectively better?

[tough tiger]

guys can we get back to playing darktide but good? (space marines 2)

[tall torrent]

Well, you’re asking how veteran is meant to be played so I’m answering you that veteran is an equal split between melee and ranged combat

[atomic void]

all classes can do melee

it's just different flavor

[unreal nova]

You could even run 90:10 vet if you wanted.

[mellow cobalt]

dark marines 2

space tide

[glacial sigil]

typo, I meant doesn't that make vet objectively better*

coz like it seems vet can do more

[trim steppe]

Vet and zealot can both melee, but their melees are different. One is not really superior to the other

[tall torrent]

zealot has 3 egregriously broken talents

[trim steppe]

Zealot can survive a lot more punishment than vet

[atomic void]

zealot within the right hands is a fkn blender

[narrow frost]

so is vet

so is psyker

[glacial sigil]

in what way is the melee different

[narrow frost]

so is ogryn

[atomic void]

true and real

like i said before

its just different flavor

they all can do melee

[narrow frost]

vet melee is consistant damage while zealot is build up damage

[glacial sigil]

I thought Vet had more build variety?

[atomic void]

he does

[glacial sigil]

sorry what does that mean? 🥲

[unreal nova]

Ogryn is where it gets boring from what i heard, spam heavy.

[atomic void]

zealot has build variety on paper but 99% of builds use the same fkn pathing lmao

[unreal nova]

Psykers is... WET tissue paper melee nuke.

[glacial sigil]

yeah folks at the zealot chat told me the same

[narrow frost]

vet will do 100 damage to a crusher every hit, while zealot will do 20 then 50- then 100. Simplified

very simplified

[radiant chasm]

weapon variety

not talents

that's how I see it

[glacial sigil]

interesting

[glacial sigil]

yeah the same build kinda works for almost every weapon

[narrow frost]

they need to build up sustained assault, IJ, and crits

[atomic void]

the weapons do be feeling different i just wish the game gave me a reason to change pathing and im not even doing it for "meta" the other trees just dont do it for me

[radiant chasm]

your only real player choice is IJ or Piety, martyrdom if you are feeling spicy

[trim steppe]

Zealot has a lot of talents that activate conditionally, especially by dodging. So being in the thick of things makes them actively stronger

[glacial sigil]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b87b5fd-c1aa-4605-9515-e5f762e17a52/stormtrooper-veteran-krak-grenade-voice-of-command-weapon-specialist
So I found this build, should I stick with it for a while while I level up? Because I've never died so much with zealot in diff 2 before and I've no idea how to build vet 💀

[narrow frost]

oh my

its always the AI pic gameslantern builds

[glacial sigil]

that reaction tells me the build might not be great lmao

[atomic void]

second wind is such a funny talent

play the game
regen toughness

please dont ever nerf it

[hollow ibex]

it's compensation for the FUBAR tree they get

[trim steppe]

Honestly that build is fine, maybe not fully optimized but very useable. Pretty much all the main things you want to take are accounted for. I'd probably drop Onslaught and instead take Reciprocity and Desperado

[glacial sigil]

gotcha I'll remember that

[unreal nova]

Onslaught is basically a funny meme for shooting crushers.

[trim steppe]

Once you get tired of the chainsword, try out the mk3 combat axe. Its slower but does everything better. The chainsword is a funny blender tho so do give it a whirl

[glacial sigil]

gotcha

my favorite weapons as Zealot were Chainaxe and Heavy sword

I'd love to try new weapons with vet tho

[unreal nova]

Funny blender? it feels awful in auric.

[atomic void]

no it doesn't

build it right and u just cut everything down with light spam

[unreal nova]

It just does nothing personally, even when aiming high enough to hit heads.

[hollow ibex]

it's ok at horde clear

[slow sky]

the secret sauce to chainsword horde clear are crits

its the only weapon in the game where the damage from crits/headshots dont decay alongside the base damage of the attack in its cleave profile

[tame lodge]

(as Chainsword has one of the best horde clear in the game)

(Havoc not included)

[hollow ibex]

it's ok, because bruisers are quite common

[marble snow]

How does the skill deadshot affect recon lasguns I would assume it applies when you aim ?

[narrow frost]

when you ads

[trim steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-happening-bye-gone-dust-bucky-barnes-gif-16387508

Deadshot recon user

[hollow ibex]

classic recon las vet

didn't touch his melee

most ammo taken

least damage dealt

[narrow frost]

sorry

that was me

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/bubu-bonk-bubu-dudu-gif-8932107540415697346

[thorn lark]

His name tho...

[loud belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/chat-gif-21339216

[tough tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/bvndit-dead-chat-dead-group-chat-lol-gif-26075659

[stuck tree]

whos got a vet build that i can just

cheese heresy mode with

[unreal nova]

Is heresy, just about anything works. Even halfassed revolver one shotting reapers.

[stuck tree]

😼

[terse idol]

Basically you don't need deadshot

[hollow axle]

Apparentely the Veteran are "nerd mathematicians" I merely ask you then : The Psyker class has useful breakpoints ?

[thorn lark]

It's hard to calculate considering warp rider, scryer, DD or warp charges

[unreal nova]

That's Path mostly btw.

[uncut pebble]

The real nerd chat is zealout chat, assuming you dont get ripped apart. But, what Keet said, lots of stuff goes into what is and isn't a breakpoint for psyker.

The main things to look at on psyker are:

at 100% peril, do I meet a breakpoint I otherwise wouldn't (warp rider)
with the 10% instant damage boost from popping scriers, do I meet a breakpoint
with disrupt destiny at 15 stacks, do I meet a breakpoint
with warp charges at 6 stacks (because you don't not take the more stacks node), do I meet a breakpoint

Everything else, like malefic and whatnot, doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

Malefic itself really exists just to boost horde clear.

[dry cloak]

ask on psyker chat

[hollow axle]

Thanks Froglo !

[gaunt anchor]

love this fraggin thing

[wild vortex]

this Make Every Shot Count penance

is really annoying

idk how I'm whiffing it with the DB shotgun

and I can't even dream of On Overwatch rn

it's just.. not happening

[tame lodge]

Just hit until it dies

💀

Because of all the fluctuating buffs

[uncut pebble]

I mean, I told them all the actual things you can consistently do to get a breakpoint.

And then gave the disclaimer about other buffs, such as relying on malefic being a poor decision for breakpoints.

[stuck tree]

I picked up too many terms and slangs from darktide

[dry cloak]

heavy sword is nice

i prefer mk6 personally

[hollow ibex]

ngl i forgot there was a mk6 HS lol

[gaunt anchor]

I used a zarona revolver

You get 57 total bullets.

Never pick up Ammo

You can miss 6 shots max

[gaunt anchor]

Yeah. I have started saying karker and fragging irl

[stuck tree]

i forget how uncensored the game chat is

[faint beacon]

I sure do love loading into a match and hearing racist rants

[stuck tree]

mine just had a dude being a freak

[inland orchid]

a freak in 40k? checks out

with the conditions rejects are in im shocked most of us arent freaks

[dry cloak]

i hate mk9 moveset

[hollow ibex]

it's the best

[dry cloak]

its just does not work in my hands

[hollow ibex]

moveset preferences are pretty subjective anyway

[faint beacon]

L1 opens up the heavy loop

And you can literally light or L1 -> Heavy spam for horde clear

Single target is just H1 - Special repeat

[dry cloak]

on mk6 i use lightspam for hordes and heavies for flak

then i have revolver for carapce and monsters

[austere pine]

mk6 suffers from a dumb pause at the end of the light combo

its clear might be good but that pause is the longest out of any other weapon i know of

it's definitely something one can adjust to, but why adjust when you don't need to

[dry cloak]

i got a perfect one before crafting update

got used to it

i don see a reason to change my ways

[wild vortex]

me shoving a Rashad on every single Vet build

[dry cloak]

and i have this hs on zealot

on vet i change beetween DC7 antax or shockmaul

and power sword

[austere pine]

my brain is too small for DCs

[unreal nova]

Just ask for cheese for that one. Pretty sure Ainz or anyone really good at this game will carry you if you go so far as to ask, lul.

[ancient moss]

Does the +1 grenade work for the Krak grenade from grenadier?

[hollow ibex]

yes

[wheat stratus]

literally can't win auric these days unless you tryhard

what has the world come to

[hollow ibex]

feels like it

[broken saddle]

what is the best version of combat axe to use for veteran

[broken saddle]

how can i view this screehn?

[hollow ibex]

rashad

[broken saddle]

do u know how can i view this screen above stats?

[hollow ibex]

scoreboard mod

[broken saddle]

i need download mod for that?

[dry cloak]

yes

[wheat stratus]

scoreboard and also ovenproof's scoreboard, gotta get both

[broken saddle]

okay thanks, can anyone send me talents for veteran

[azure stream]

Karker is just fun to say though

and same

[next dawn]

sorry for a dumb question, is it bad to dump stability on single fire guns like bolt pistol/revolver?

[hollow ibex]

the real question is why you wouldn't just dump a stat that does nothing or near nothing

instead of a stat that does something

[grizzled pebble]

Sorry it was me.

[hollow ibex]

actually it was me

[wheat stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-fight-i-dont-believe-you-will-ferrell-gif-15334458

[grizzled pebble]

[crude wind]

Has Darktide had an influx of newer players recently?

Seems like the game might be on the up

[broken saddle]

i am new player i enjoy it i start 1 week ago

[faint beacon]

Sorry I did that

[late stone]

Not new, but I came back after almost a year away last week

[hearty panther]

Not recently no, but Unlocked & Loaded + PS release + Havoc release all together deffo boosted numbers, just not on the Steam page exclusively

also hello johnny

[crude wind]

hello there!

[hazy flicker]

idk man, this might be a little steep for a plasma gun

[stuck tree]

whose got a good plasma build

me wanna try

[last marten]

buy a lotto ticket

[trim steppe]

Holy shit I hope you bought that

[unreal nova]

Back to back Humble Choice into 2-3 sales as well.

[hazy flicker]

wait is it good? I actually didn't buy it

[trim steppe]

It was a perfect roll, one of the only weapons you don't want 80/60 on

[hazy flicker]

lol I'm just messing with you, I definitely bought it. But I re-checked it like 5 times I couldn't believe it lmao

[unreal nova]

Sorry, but this is why you don't bring me into auric. If you do, expect extreme panic and doing nothing but trying to survive. Is like H40 but better/worse at times.

[shadow dagger]

im starting to think i shouldve started this grim penance a lot earlier than i did

24/30 on the event with exclusively grims

this is literal hell

you could even say

[atomic void]

seek missions with books

[shadow dagger]

damnation

[summer lance]

dump on shovel is defences?

[shadow dagger]

am i stupid or does the report menu not actually work

send button is perpetually greyed out

[iron atlas]

executioner stance build dont work in high diff? i tried it and seems not useful to hit enemies special/elite, swarm enemy keep flooding, i used shovel to push it but my hellbore lasgun cant do its job

[tame lodge]

Well you're using a Helbore, swapping is not that optimal

That being said

Exec Bolter is the best way of playing bolter

[hollow ibex]

ES is very good

[shadow dagger]

the easiest thing to nitpick about it is that some guns that its good to pair with usually hit most breakpoints without it

and also the fact that it isnt as easy to use as shout but yk

[vernal trench]

https://streamable.com/0im7e8

[steep flower]

OGRYN AQUISITION PROGRAM

[sudden cedar]

Beautiful Combo

[vernal trench]

beautiful combo

[steep flower]

I'm not even mad

[vernal trench]

[latent parcel]

the wombo combo

[summer lance]

whats the dumpstat for shovel and hellbore?

[pseudo fiber]

defence/mobility and stability

[unreal nova]

I see everyone.

[summer lance]

thanks. got a helbore with a 60 dump in ammo and thought i was lucky for a second

[latent parcel]

👁️

[unreal nova]

Isn't it Chonky's eep time?

[latent parcel]

maybe ask em!

im grabbing food then playing wilds most likely

unless karien is karryn

[unreal nova]

I see, leaving us for big monsters again.

[latent parcel]

someones gotta take care of em

i know ur scurred

[unreal nova]

WDYM. I forced myself to pub Fatalis just to rub it in to the people who left me behind.

Being the only one in the group with 2 sets of Fatalis armors.

[vernal trench]

Chonky going to bed

Had a super fun time playin duo with papa

[unreal nova]

Ah, I see.

[vernal trench]

Now we just gotta roll a good map again

[unreal nova]

Archivum so you all can carry me?

[vernal trench]

Naw

Karien dont need no karryin

Karien is the karry!

I want mercentile or smelter ideally

[unreal nova]

I do need carryin'! >_>

[vernal trench]

Karien karries herself!

[unreal nova]

Also, why those?

[unreal nova]

No.

[vernal trench]

Good duo maps

Its hard even on those maps

Smelter would be easiest for sure

[unreal nova]

Unless you mean I just don't feed constantly.

[unreal nova]

Ah.

[vernal trench]

Papa will get u the 40 this week

Papas a nice guy

[unreal nova]

Are you saying neither Stompty nor you are?

[hollow ibex]

invite me too 😭

[vernal trench]

Na but papa extra nice

[vernal trench]

Ill invite u of ur on tmr

If

I gotta reroll my 40

Its got blight

[unreal nova]

You know the time I'm on. Like 8 hours back.

[vernal trench]

I got class tmr and tuesday so i wont be on until pretty late eu time

[hollow ibex]

lol it's aight, im prob gonna get railed tomorrow at work and not have time to play anyway

[vernal trench]

Ill be rerolling maps all week so therell be tons of opportunities

[unreal nova]

Also, are you just curious about how bad I am or did you mean a seperate run?

[vernal trench]

Me and papa will prolly just reroll my maps

Na he wants his 40 done

[hollow ibex]

lol nah i haven't done a H40 either

idc how good or bad players are

unless they're bad AND selfish

then i care

[unreal nova]

Ah. Then yeah, papa will.

[vernal trench]

Yea papa will get u true survivor

[hollow ibex]

i wouldn't mind that either 😏

[vernal trench]

I prolly wont cuz true survivor runs are boring

[unreal nova]

Too much gold toughness for him.

And bubbles.

[hollow ibex]

lol oh yeah

[unreal nova]

Also 2 book zealots and 2 bubble psykers.

[vernal trench]

I hate

[unreal nova]

You don't even stay around me to get it.

[vernal trench]

Thats true

[unreal nova]

Unless dook went down so hard or it's a cramped holdout.

[vernal trench]

Then ill be forced to have golden toughness

[unreal nova]

Or no choice or run ends.

[vernal trench]

I played shout earlier today

It was

[unreal nova]

See. We all know you.

[vernal trench]

Professional shout hater

[unreal nova]

SO you hate me, kay.

[vernal trench]

If u use shout

[unreal nova]

You know my builds.

[vernal trench]

I only know ur book build

Idk what else u run

[unreal nova]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e21fbd7-c703-4fcf-845c-26b1540095b9/boomies-shredder-frags-edition

[vernal trench]

Grenade goes boom

Shout

[unreal nova]

See.

[radiant chasm]

no maniac or elites on bistol show do you one tap flamers

[unreal nova]

On crits, lul.

Or I say dook it and shoot everything twice.

Also, it should one shot on heresy, and that's where I play so...........

[gaunt anchor]

love this game and its stupid names

[broken saddle]

whAts like good melee to use for veteran\

[unreal nova]

Literally anything. For OP, you have DS4, Rashad CAxe, Mk6 knoife, Powersword. DS4 is DS4. Rashad and knoife needs investment to use. Powersword is high damage and cleave when activated but low mobility and your charged/activated special breaks if you get even breathed on.

[surreal gust]

No name will be as good as Clook the ogryn who got stuck in a medicae station

[broken saddle]

judging by that isnt it good to have a cleave melee since a veteran is mainly focused on ranged?

[pseudo fiber]

You can but you don't have to

Shovel is always a solid choice

[gaunt anchor]

heavy sword is also good

[broken saddle]

okay guys i just need to decide

just decide for me and ill use that

combat axe doesnt feel very good after playing zealot tbh

[gaunt anchor]

I have been using the Heavy sword recently and its really nice

[gaunt anchor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1092566487484604476/SlapOfOg.gif

[pseudo fiber]

Put unarmoured on it

[broken saddle]

ill try it ! thanks

[gaunt anchor]

Here is the heavy sword I use

for horde clearing, you can light heavy heavy heavy etc. if it breaks, just light to start it up again

for single target, heavy attack, then special, then heavy and special, rinse and repeat

[unreal nova]

WDYM, Powersword isn't good at cleave?

[broken saddle]

i dont know what is, i just assume it would be good to have a cleave melee

[unreal nova]

It's literally the best melee cleave the Vet has.

[broken saddle]

ok can u tell me like the point of having a non cleave melee since veteran is focused on ranged guns and i assume that you wont run head on into elites and melee them so u wouldnt need a single target heavy melee?

or something that staggers

[unreal nova]

This isn't factoring bromentum.
If you are telling me you shoot crushers...

On anything higher than malice, I'm just staring.

[gaunt anchor]

Generally, Veteran isn't just the shooter class

[broken saddle]

i made my zealot 30 and tbh i dont need a gun with him

[gaunt anchor]

it is very good at hybrid honestly

yeah Zealot very much is melee focused, with less perks for melee, however, vet is very hybrid focused

[broken saddle]

is there melees that have staggering or they are all the same on that topic

[pseudo fiber]

If you want stagger then shovel is your best friend

More shovel propaganda I win haha

[faint beacon]

Shovel and Shaul

[hollow ibex]

shovel is mid

there, i said it

[faint beacon]

those are really the only two that are good at mainly staggering

[unreal nova]

Not when you factor pure stagger power.

[faint beacon]

I can tell you haven't played Shovel with Skullcrusher + Deci and a Recon with Onslaught

[unreal nova]

That guy wants stagger.

That's Shovel or Shock Maul.

[hollow ibex]

i have, though not both at the same time

also why use a melee that only staggers vs. one that actually kills efficiently

[gaunt anchor]

are you using stance diabloo?

[unreal nova]

Shovel is funny slap things around with a super stagger or poke armored stuff.

[midnight totem]

Plenty of vets build for melee. I certainly do

However, vets don't quite have the melee stagger options that a zealot might

[hollow ibex]

all fun and games until the bruisers start stacking up faster than you can kill them, and you used your frags to pick up the staffker that got overheaded

[midnight totem]

We do have the shovel, and shock baton

Shock maul

[broken saddle]

i would say that i wont use shovel

lets put it that way

u teammates are dead ur alone

and enemy swarm u

what melee u using

[unreal nova]

'nades.

[crude fiber]

Shovel is fun in aurics if you know what your doing

[unreal nova]

Drop 2, slash away with my knoife.

[broken saddle]

i enjoyed combat knife

[midnight totem]

My teammates are dead and I'm alone?

I'm using whatever I have

[hollow ibex]

knife is very good for clutching

[midnight totem]

If that's a shovel, it's going to be a shovel

[hollow ibex]

but normally i'm using rashad because it's just an all-around powerhouse

or taxe

[broken saddle]

Yes clutching

Thats what i look for

[midnight totem]

clutching is a matter of skill, not weapon

[shadow dagger]

finished the entire book event with just grims

i dont think this was a good idea

[midnight totem]

thats painful

[shadow dagger]

i just need one more grim for the penance though so i guess thats the upside

[midnight totem]

playing with double grims reminds me of good ole vermintide all book runs

[shadow dagger]

except its even more cringe

[midnight totem]

except they didn't have pox bursters that could instagib a whole team

[shadow dagger]

because now you have to explore the map instead of just remembering book spawns

[midnight totem]

and for no reward either

[shadow dagger]

and sometimes theres just 3 straight hours of scripture damnation in both auric and normal

so now i just have to sit there with my fingers in my ass hoping the next rotation has a grim obj

(it doesnt)

[midnight totem]

if you're that needy for grims, could always check heresy xD

[unreal nova]

Clutching is pure skill, ask any of the really good players around. Some can even clutch on oggy.

Or solo with psyker.

[gaunt anchor]

so what should I be using with bolt pistol for blessings and perks

[broken saddle]

Ive done that alot of times not to flex my friend but i need to give some credit to relic blase, that shit claps

[unreal nova]

Yes, but that is one of the better weapons around. Some people can clutch with nearly anything. Ainz has run around with Taxe and shredder auto and I can bet he can solo clutch alot even with that.

[broken saddle]

Okay bro thanks for the advices

[surreal thicket]

what attack pattern should i use for the mk 3 combat blade on vet?

[tame lodge]

Push attack or light for hordes

Heavy for whatever single target you want to kill faster

Could Also go Heavy Special light if you feel like it

[surreal thicket]

thx

[umbral scaffold]

what are some good blessings to the agripnaa mark 1

[tame lodge]

Dumdum+ Deathspitter/Raking Fire

[hollow ibex]

wow

rare pub team W

god damn speed run with 2 grims on moebian 21st

[umbral scaffold]

thank you

is the power sword at all worth it on veteran?

[gaunt anchor]

@tame lodge @unreal nova

[tame lodge]

Power sword top 3

[austere mica]

Is one of the power picks on vet still good?

Yes

[gaunt anchor]

use three +3 stamina curios, auto pistol and devil claw sword

[unreal nova]

Yes, but weapons.

[gaunt anchor]

the ultimate anti crutch vet build

[tame lodge]

Or top 4 if you rate knife higher

[austere mica]

High on the list of intentionally bad builds but I can do better

[gaunt anchor]

smokes, Shout that can't give gold, and marksman focus

[unreal nova]

I guess the weapons in general, lul.

[austere mica]

I can do so much better while still taking a keystone

Hold on

[unreal nova]

Also, kraks may or may not be worse.

[gaunt anchor]

nah they are a crutch

we can't use those

[unreal nova]

Depends on how competant your team is.

[austere mica]

I said they feel like one

To me personally

They feel cheap and I don’t like it

[gaunt anchor]

actually, proper curiosity, why do they feel cheap to you?

this isn't to try and poke fun or anything, actually curious

[austere mica]

Because it just feels like a way to not interact with a threat as opposed to a tool that can be used in a variety of ways

They’re a hardcounter to 2 enemy types

[gaunt anchor]

Ah that makes sense yeah, I can see that reasoning

I personally like having kraks because I rarely trust pub teammates to be able to properly handle carapace enemies because when I was starting to play, I constantly ran into people who just couldn't handle them

[austere mica]

Yeah that’s perfectly valid I just don’t like using them myself

[gaunt anchor]

reasonable.

I just hated being an 'oh boy, none of my team can handle maulers and crushers, again...'

[unreal nova]

Maulers is just shoot body.

Or poke body.

[gaunt anchor]

yeah but at the time I didn't know that

because I was returning after not playing since launch

[austere mica]

This is pretty bad but I’m sure you can do worse (while taking a keystone)

[gaunt anchor]

that is terrible LMAO

[austere mica]

Sadly all of vets grenades are pretty alright minimum

[gaunt anchor]

smoke personally is like, the least alright but still alright

[unreal nova]

I mean, it's like bubble but better/worse.

[gaunt anchor]

bubble is nice cauuse the constant toughness regen + toughness reduction when it goes away

[unreal nova]

You know it will last full duration, but it also blinds your teammates if they aren't properly in it and you can technically still be shot.

The duration is the only better part.

[gaunt anchor]

I think smoke and dome are same duration

nopee

Dome also lasts longer

@unreal nova

Dome is 25s, smoke is 15s

[austere mica]

Dome has its duration reduced by weapons fire

[gaunt anchor]

oh didn't know that

[grand perch]

i wonder how a build centered around the 3 toughness regen nodes at the top would play

[austere mica]

I forget how far it can be chopped down to but it’s pretty low and it used to be able to be popped in under 10 seconds

[grand perch]

i shall make one and see eventually

[unreal nova]

Dome is min 6 secs, in H40, it's basically always 6 secs.

[gaunt anchor]

I don't do much havoc 40s

I am ususlly in damnation normal

[austere mica]

I don’t have friends for h40

[gaunt anchor]

so that probably alters how I see things

[grizzled pebble]

No one can ever do havoc 40 it's too hard.

[gaunt anchor]

I don't think I have the skills for havoc 40s

[austere mica]

Exactly we need to buff dueling sword and recon to make it possible

[unreal nova]

What skills? I'm an aurabot.

[grizzled pebble]

I agree.

[gaunt anchor]

I just don't have the movement and stuff ingrained yet

like, I don't slide enough

[unreal nova]

I use controller, sliding is HARD.

[gaunt anchor]

I am technically on havoc 16, and I am scared to try it

[austere mica]

That’s heresy diff

[gaunt anchor]

oh

nvm then

[austere mica]

It’s like auric with lower hp

[gaunt anchor]

fear banished

[grizzled pebble]

Way easier than auric.

[gaunt anchor]

I can do auric heresy without any troubles!

[grizzled pebble]

It spawns very little specials pre 21

[unreal nova]

AURIC HERESY EXISTS.

[austere mica]

Nuh uh

Not real

[gaunt anchor]

I want to get to 25 at minimum

then focus on helping others to get the chest and helm

[unreal nova]

Ask papa, then question why you have H40 next week after.

[austere mica]

Sadly the drip is mid for half the classes

[gaunt anchor]

I really like the psyker and the ogryn ones

[austere mica]

I’d rather continue my garbage warrior fits

[gaunt anchor]

oh mygod I did like

2 havoc missions this weak

[austere mica]

The psyker RT hat with the feather plus some random green penance outfit with no sleeves so I can see the tattoo’s and some baggy penance pants

[gaunt anchor]

and I got like 1.5k diamantine

I am rich!

[unreal nova]

Number doesn't matter, just the lvl.

[gaunt anchor]

oh then it was like havoc 5 mission I did

[austere mica]

I have to actually do this annoying ass event for diamantine I went flat broke making my taxe psyker loadout

[gaunt anchor]

man I am going to be so rich soon

I am constantly diamantine broke tbh

[unreal nova]

I kinda wanna do it but so lazy. I mostly just want the dockets.

[austere mica]

21st is so fun but books are such a bitch to get with pubs

[unreal nova]

Playing normal heresy doesn't fund that.

[gaunt anchor]

I just slowly worked on them, just did the missions like usual

[austere mica]

I was running off a 10k diamantine stash I built up pre U&L

And finally ran it through

I do collect weapons in extreme excess though

I have like 3 or 4 relic blades on one zealot

[unreal nova]

Is funny when you do all melees for vet.

And then only ever use knoife, which you have 2 of.

[austere mica]

I’ve had 2 knives on both vet and zealot for the longest time

One was like perfect 80’s and 35 mobility (which is still 5 dodges)

[unreal nova]

I have it cos the game be like. Oh, you JUST brunt armory and made a perfect 500?

Here, have a 470 perfect roll knoife.

All I can really do is just...

[austere mica]

Gotta have 1 of every mark and several build specific variants

We have infinite inventory space for a reason

[unreal nova]

Nope. Both mk6.

One normalish, other mercykiller cos funny and what do i even use it for anyway.

[austere mica]

A mk3 so you don’t have to mk swap and mess up a build

[unreal nova]

I don't like the mk3 tbh.

It's faster, but my head just doesn't get around with the lights.

[austere mica]

Yeah but what if you need it how will you cope if you have to go into a context menu and press 2 buttons

[unreal nova]

I just use 2 mk6.

Ezy.

[gaunt anchor]

I love mk3 shroud beacon zelaot with backstab <3

[unreal nova]

But this is vet.

Lul.

[gaunt anchor]

I love mk3 infilrate veteran with backstab <3

[woeful junco]

if a vet player calls "KaizenPrwn" is in this channel, you are a legend

[vernal trench]

@kaizenprwn

[stuck tree]

wondering if i should wait or buy that vet set in the second page

[dry cloak]

You have one rotation before its third page so wait and fink about it

Boss

[stuck tree]

yessir

ima wait out the period for the next shop then

[stuck tree]

whose got a goated vet build with plasma

[dry cloak]

Have you tried other weapons on vet yet?

[austere mica]

Icky

[dry cloak]

Dont become plasma shout vet

Those are smelly

Like shouties

[austere mica]

You get to clap back when you can keep up

[stuck tree]

yems

i just wanna try out stuff other people use

[dry cloak]

I dont have score board so idc

[fresh nova]

I spent the weekend Stealth maxing. I'm never going back. This is the build.

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-snake-big-boss-gif-12248663

[dry cloak]

Vet stealth or zealot stealth

[fresh nova]

Vet

[dry cloak]

Try stealth devil claw and laspitol

[fresh nova]

Combat knife and bolt pistol. Going to try with Auto pistol tonight

[austere mica]

Don’t

[dry cloak]

For grenade krak to kill carapaxe

[austere mica]

It is without hyperbole the worst gun in the game

[dry cloak]

Let him experience that himself

[fresh nova]

To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade for the brave

[austere mica]

It’s most effective use is suppression (not useful outside of havoc) and Inspiring Barrage

[fresh nova]

I had people telling me all weekend smoke grenades are garabe. Loving the build.

[austere mica]

Smokes are actually good

Autopistol is irredeemably terrible

[uncut pebble]

95% of the time (with the exception of autopistol) "terrible" things are just used wrong, and that's why they're terrible.

[junior needle]

There's a clear power gap between various options even in optimal usage though

[dry cloak]

Other examples of terrible please.

[austere mica]

Autopistol is literally just so numerically disadvantaged it’s more useful as a toughness button than a gun

[austere mica]

Tac axe

[junior needle]

Or if not explicitly a power gap, then definitely a gap in ease of use

[dry cloak]

Tac axes are good

[austere mica]

Rated D tier by like everyone but funky as hell and an amazing weapon

[dry cloak]

Heck after scraping them i need to get some proper ones

[junior needle]

Eh, taxes are alright but 2/3 are hard to justify compared to axes

[dry cloak]

At least on vet